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Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host Coli Witt, and today we have very

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Speaker 1: special guests entrepreneur in the building, Tucky Blunt, and just

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Speaker 1: like the name, we are gonna talk cannabis. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking cannabis today all the way from

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Speaker 1: the Bay.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm a fan, so I appreciate y'all sharing your

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Speaker 2: you personally share your platform with me and just overall

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Speaker 2: the whole platform. So I appreciate what y'all doing.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, and we appreciate you coming and

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Speaker 1: really sharing the transparency behind behind the cannabis industry what

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Speaker 1: it took to get to own your own display, entry,

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Speaker 1: lounge and events business. So before we get into all

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Speaker 1: the tea on the business side, I want to know

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Speaker 1: what you were eating while you were broken. What you're

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Speaker 1: going to be having me eat today?

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Speaker 2: Oh man, this is scary. So what we're eating today

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Speaker 2: is basically play on bacon, egg and cheese with spam.

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Speaker 2: So we're doing a spam egg and cheese saying wich,

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Speaker 2: something I ate a lot of when I was younger,

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Speaker 2: but I haven't eaten about thirty plus years. So this

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Speaker 2: is interesting. Spam is interesting. We used to call it

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Speaker 2: a spare parts and meat, so hopefully that's not what

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Speaker 2: it is anymore.

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Speaker 1: There's some I forgot which guest of ours like genuinely

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Speaker 1: was at Miguel Newness. Yes he loved spam.

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Speaker 2: Yes, when I was younger, I didn't know no reason

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Speaker 2: not to love spam. It was great. But about eighth

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Speaker 2: ninth grade, on the field trip, I had thick uncooked

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Speaker 2: just and one of the homies on the field trip

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Speaker 2: was like, bro, you eating that. I'm like, yeah, what

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Speaker 2: is that? What's wrong with He like, you know, we

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Speaker 2: don't eat that? And ever since then, I've never read

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Speaker 2: it again. Leave it to it.

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Speaker 1: I got you the wonderbread, and usually I don't do it,

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Speaker 1: but we did have an elected official come on the

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Speaker 1: show and he really like expressed the importance of keeping

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Speaker 1: it like all the way one hundred. So today I

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Speaker 1: decided to torture you, okay, with wonderbread because we all

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Speaker 1: know wonderbread is a very delicate bread. And I wasn't

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Speaker 1: get you a nice bread, but I said, you know,

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Speaker 1: why not make your life harder since you're gonna give

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Speaker 1: me spam.

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Speaker 2: I ain't mad at all. You see how this butter

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Speaker 2: trying to do me?

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Speaker 1: So yeah, for people, I don't know what you're doing.

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Speaker 1: Was this a little drop of butter in the middle

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Speaker 1: of the brand? But here we go cook it up.

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Speaker 1: So take me back to what was going on in

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Speaker 1: the spam air of life.

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Speaker 2: So I was ninety three ninety four, So I was

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Speaker 2: fourteen thirteen when in junior high school at a place

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Speaker 2: called freaking Oapron, California. Like I said, we didn't know

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Speaker 2: we was poor. I lived in the shelter before and

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Speaker 2: stuff like that, but we didn't know we was poor.

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Speaker 1: I think someone stabs the back or something to get

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Speaker 1: it out.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I do remember that, remember that. But we

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Speaker 2: just you know, we were just eating. You know, we

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Speaker 2: didn't think nothing of it. I was going to school

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Speaker 2: straight at student living in Oakland. It was different back

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Speaker 2: than than it is now. That's pretty much it. I

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Speaker 2: was a nerd. I was a nerd in school and

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Speaker 2: just really I really enjoyed school. But we just didn't

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Speaker 2: have a lot of money and we didn't you know,

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Speaker 2: both my parents had been on drugs before. I lived

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Speaker 2: with my grandmother, like I said, lived in the shelter before.

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Speaker 2: So we were just you know, trying to get back.

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Speaker 2: Used to think my mom had just got custody of us,

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Speaker 2: so she was doing what she could do to fetus,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And that's how spam came about.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, I never knew nothing was wrong with

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Speaker 2: spam until ninth grade.

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Speaker 1: Damn. Does this look like reminiscent to you?

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Speaker 2: It's like it is bringing back a lot, not in

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Speaker 2: a bad way, but just bringing back a lot because

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Speaker 2: this is how we used to eat, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean. So yeah, it's pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So your mom gets you back and you leave

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Speaker 1: your Grandma's back to your mom. Where's your poppy at?

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Speaker 2: My pap was around and we were talking about that

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Speaker 2: recently too. My mom and dad lived in the same city,

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Speaker 2: still live in the same city now, but they can't

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Speaker 2: stand each other day to this day, to this day,

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Speaker 2: like to the point like right now currently, if I

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Speaker 1: They're going to be mad at you.

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Speaker 2: Yes, wow, So I'm going through that as a child then,

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Speaker 2: because they was going back and forth to court. So

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Speaker 2: dad was around, but Dad would rather us love him

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Speaker 2: to death, but he would rather us live with his

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Speaker 2: mom instead of him. So it was it was interesting.

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Speaker 2: But why that we have no I still to this

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Speaker 2: day don't know. I have no clue. But he had

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Speaker 2: a house, but we never went to it. We would

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Speaker 2: go out, hang out on weekends, go do stuff, and

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Speaker 2: then he drop us back off at my granny house.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know if it was something to spite

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Speaker 2: my mom.

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Speaker 1: Wait, so you never saw his house.

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Speaker 2: No, we would see it, but would never stay in it.

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Speaker 2: No overnight.

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Speaker 1: Oh, but you can hang out in it.

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Speaker 2: Hang out and when on time to go home and

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Speaker 2: go to sleep. I spent the night in my daddy

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Speaker 2: ho maybe once when I was younger, outside of him

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Speaker 2: my mom being together.

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Speaker 1: And you never asked them, not until I.

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Speaker 2: Got older, because when I was younger, I didn't even

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Speaker 2: nothing know it. We just looked as we were going

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Speaker 2: back to granny house. We didn't think anything of it.

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Speaker 1: So do you when you ask them now?

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Speaker 2: What is? He turned to an argument, Oh.

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Speaker 1: You really can't okay, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, you really, it's okay. It's it's funky, okay.

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Speaker 1: But they still don't get along.

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Speaker 2: Dabor. Were they married, they were never married childish sweethearts,

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Speaker 2: met when they was twelve, had me when they were

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Speaker 2: seventeen and sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so, and they both got into drugs. Yes, heavy drugs,

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Speaker 1: like drugs. I'm sorry, I don't like a hell a

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Speaker 1: nosy person.

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Speaker 2: No, heavy, Both of them were users. My dad started first.

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Speaker 2: Mom would stay at home. Mom dad paid all the bills.

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Speaker 2: So once he stopped paying the bills, Mom was kind

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Speaker 2: She we moved with her mom and that got kind

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Speaker 2: of funky because she's her baby daughter moving home with

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Speaker 2: three kids. That wasn't a good look. Cussed her out

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Speaker 2: every day we end up in the shelter. Moms was like,

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Speaker 2: I was a nerd, so I was like really smart

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Speaker 2: as a kid. She would have to take me from

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Speaker 2: let's just say Burdbank to Lax every day in a

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Speaker 2: broke down car. She couldn't afford it. So she was like, man,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna send you with your daddy. He said, to

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Speaker 2: be getting this stuff together. I'm gonna send you with him.

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Speaker 2: And when I get myself together, I'm gonna come back

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Speaker 2: and get y'all. That was like eighty nine and my

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Speaker 2: Mama came and got us back in ninety two. Wow,

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Speaker 2: And she hates she don't like me talking about her

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Speaker 2: own podcasts or nothing. But I love my mama. Mama

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Speaker 2: did a whole lot for us to get back and

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Speaker 2: she just she just she did not she see this interview.

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Speaker 2: She's gonna cuts me.

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Speaker 1: Out over why because she doesn't like that.

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Speaker 2: She don't like to be talked about. She's she's one

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Speaker 2: of them people who still how can I put it,

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Speaker 2: My Mom's gonna die without friends. I put it like that.

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Speaker 2: She's one of the people that's just everything is a conspiracy,

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Speaker 2: and I hate that for her, you know what I mean, Like,

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Speaker 2: you need to get out of mom. You need to

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Speaker 2: have some friends, Like you need to go. She just

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Speaker 2: sits in her house. So that's a whole nother story.

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Speaker 2: But this was one of her favorite meals.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you are a straight A student at some point,

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Speaker 1: so she decides to send you back because she couldn't care.

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Speaker 1: So she was she putting you in a really good

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was in a school called Peter Pan which

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Speaker 2: was one of the higher end like private schools, and

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Speaker 2: I got in because of my brains because we couldn't

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Speaker 2: afford to go there, and then my sisters, all of

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Speaker 2: them went loved us. I graduated. I skipped the grade there.

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Speaker 2: I graduated from there. I think you sposed to graduate

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Speaker 2: fifth grade, like twelve or something. I was done at ten.

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Speaker 2: So everything was great on that and she didn't want

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Speaker 2: to go to that school because she taught us. While

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Speaker 2: Pop was at work, Mom was at home teaching us

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Speaker 2: how to count, how to add all that. Yeah, she

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Speaker 2: had a whole chart like that, had the days of

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Speaker 2: ten times tables. I'm learning that at one and two

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Speaker 2: years old. So I went to school ready. Yeah. So

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Speaker 2: when Pops wasn't doing his end, it kind of messed

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Speaker 2: that's no hat shade on him, It just thingings happen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So then what happens get.

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Speaker 2: With moms mom's is both my parents sold whed for

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Speaker 2: a very long time, and we and my family never

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Speaker 2: looked at weed as like a bad thing. I never

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Speaker 2: knew that cannabis was bad ever, because it was part

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Speaker 2: of my family Domino's food weed. And when I got

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like you can always peep through the

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Speaker 2: That's just what we knew. And about thirteen I started smoking.

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Speaker 2: I was like, all right, it's cool. You know, weed

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Speaker 2: is cool, but it wasn't really my thing. By a sixteen,

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Speaker 2: it was my thing, and I knew I could sell it.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, if I'm going to sell it,

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Speaker 2: where am I going to sell it? Everybody I knew

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Speaker 2: So I was like, man, I got to figure out

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Speaker 2: a better way to sell weed. And it was at work.

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Speaker 2: I've always had a job since I was thirteen, So

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Speaker 2: at sixteen, I'm working at the grocery store. All my

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Speaker 2: coworkers smoked, so I'm like, oh shit, I don't need

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Speaker 2: whet this is my corner. So everywhere I worked, I

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Speaker 2: sold everything I've ever sold in my life. I sold

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Speaker 2: the coworkers, so I was selling weed. I detailed cars,

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Speaker 2: detailed bikes. I threw parties just or you.

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Speaker 1: Were a hustler.

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Speaker 2: I was a hustler.

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Speaker 1: You're I don't want to see you're a hustler because

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Speaker 1: it sounds like you. You know, yeah, I think hustlers

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Speaker 1: sometimes people, But I think you are an entrepreneur, a

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Speaker 1: young entrepreneur.

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Speaker 2: I take that. I will take that, and I just

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Speaker 2: applied that to being at work. I'm like, if I'm

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Speaker 2: going to be here, I was making more money at work,

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Speaker 2: and I made.

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Speaker 1: At work, and I that's hilarious.

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Speaker 2: Continued that all my life and kind of fast forward.

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Speaker 2: Sold We for about eight years, no issues, and then

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Speaker 2: They arrested me whatever whatever I built out the same night.

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Speaker 2: But that arrest led to me qualifying for the program

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Speaker 1: And what was that program?

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Speaker 2: That program is called the Social Equity Program that originated

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Speaker 1: And now it was two thousand and five.

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Speaker 2: No, it's crazy as I caught the case in O five.

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Speaker 2: None of this happened until twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 1: Wait, you didn't get to open legally till twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Because legalization just started in twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I was gonna take. So wait, you

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Speaker 2: So I go to jail, get out. I continue working,

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Speaker 2: continue doing everything I was doing, selling weed. All this

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Speaker 1: Oh so you get an the restidents stop you?

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Speaker 2: No oh no, no, no no, it just what happened was

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Speaker 2: It was a great time. I seen why people was

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Speaker 2: when I got knichtng them snitching on me is how

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Speaker 2: I qualified for that program. So fifteen sixteen years later,

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Speaker 2: and was like, hey, Tucky, you ever called a week

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Speaker 2: but I have why. He was like, man, I know

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Speaker 2: all right, we met. I thought we was on on board,

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Speaker 2: we applied. I got this phone call in September. We

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Speaker 2: applied for the license in December of seventeen. January thirty

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Speaker 2: Two people I never met. Now we got a license

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Speaker 2: in a billion dollar industry and have to work together

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Speaker 1: Who created the Social Apple program? Was it a government thing?

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Speaker 2: It was a government thing? Yep. City of Oakland government

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Speaker 2: did it. One lady Destiny Brooks has something to do

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Speaker 2: part of it. It was just a way for them

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Speaker 2: to if y'all gonna legalize, y'all need to give these

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Speaker 2: people who's been adversely affected a chance to own in

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Speaker 1: I didn't know there was a such thing because my

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Speaker 1: got all these people in jail that know the industry

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Speaker 1: was a whole program.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it came out in twenty.

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Speaker 1: But it was it only in Oakland or is it.

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Speaker 2: One in LA right now? It's been going on.

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Speaker 1: It's one in LA right now, right now currently. So

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Speaker 1: if you have a history, big.

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Speaker 2: Kika, I don't know if you meant with Kika, but

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Speaker 2: Kika has a store called Gorilla Wellness. It's I want

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Speaker 2: to say, it's on Crenshaw Social Equity owned. She's the

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Speaker 1: It's a female owned.

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Speaker 2: Female owned Black people. A big keepers. You share wrong?

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Speaker 2: You a good lady, super good lady. But yeah, that's

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Speaker 2: But from ninety six, I've been the celebrities weed man

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Speaker 2: since ninety six, Like all my friends, like we were

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Speaker 2: talking off on camera of my friends are celebrities because

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Speaker 2: I pick and choose my clients, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: I didn't want just you know, I don't know. It

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Speaker 1: I saw that after you went to jail, you got

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Speaker 1: real selective for your clustomer.

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Speaker 2: No, it was creat No, before I was already selecting

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Speaker 2: selling to celebrities before, I just was selective about how

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Speaker 2: I sold my weed. I never went back to staying outside.

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Speaker 2: It was always at work. You had to call me

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Speaker 2: and you had to know me. Outside attracting different kind

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Speaker 2: of attention. Police is all in your face thing, you

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. And I didn't want that, Like

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Speaker 2: I don't want to go to jail, so I'm doing

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Speaker 1: Why did you say that when you were outside it

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Speaker 1: was fun.

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Speaker 2: Though, because like the outside life back then in two

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Speaker 2: like my.

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Speaker 1: Spot wash your fires up really too high?

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Speaker 2: This one the egg. Yeah, that's why I moved it

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Speaker 1: This one is that one down?

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Speaker 1: No, you're good cooking like that one?

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Speaker 2: Yes, you all good seat cooking. O five. Back then,

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Speaker 2: outside my turf where I'm from was a dope spot.

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Speaker 2: They so dope they didn't sell weed. So with us

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Speaker 2: They're like, man, you know, cause they clients are do

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Speaker 2: I got to just see how fun being outside was.

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Speaker 2: We having block parties, bringing the dirt bikes out. We're

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Speaker 2: me because the police driving by all that, you know

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying. I got touch stuff, I got to

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Speaker 2: hide stuff I'm not used to that, you know what

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Speaker 2: that I could like. It was just temporary. It was

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Speaker 2: snitched on me on a Thursday, so he knew I

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Speaker 1: How long did you spend time in jail for?

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Speaker 2: I built out the same night because I had no priority.

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Speaker 1: Oh but did you ever go back? Wait a minute,

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Speaker 2: Like four hours built out equity as long as lottery.

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Speaker 2: Caught a charge in cannabis and I called a felony

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Speaker 2: when they called me. I had eighty dollars worth of

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Speaker 2: probation with a four way search clause. That mean anytime

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Speaker 2: My first defense never been to jail, never have no

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Speaker 2: Really glad.

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Speaker 1: That you got the equity program, because honestly, to have

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Speaker 2: A low it's a lot. It's a lot, and it

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Speaker 2: kind of for lack of better words. It fucked off

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Speaker 2: I don't let nothing keep me down longer than need to.

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Speaker 2: So when it happened, I'm like, all right, I can't

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Speaker 2: what I did. I just I never let it stop me,

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Speaker 2: because if I did, I wouldn't be talking to you.

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Speaker 1: But how did you get How did you when you

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Speaker 2: What's crazy is when he snitched on me. The place

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Speaker 2: like I said that, I started work that Monday. So

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Speaker 2: I already have the case. You can't work at probation

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Speaker 2: been forced to the streets. Yeah, so I called heaven

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Speaker 2: Father the yeahweah yahweh set it up to where now

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Speaker 2: don't know that, Colleen, Like, how do you walk that?

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Speaker 2: And don't you? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Of course, But now, what was the learning curve for

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Speaker 1: it's a lasting business.

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Speaker 2: I'm still learning now. I closed my store in March.

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Speaker 2: I still got other businesses, but I closed my store

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Speaker 2: told you the people I partnered with I never met before.

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Speaker 2: So they robbed me blind. After about two years, they

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Speaker 2: I'd have had no clue.

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Speaker 1: Can they do that? Is the license non based on

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Speaker 2: They didn't have the license for the store. They used

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Speaker 2: I had no clue end of finding out because people

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, what do you mean? Because when I

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Speaker 2: legal side of the business. They were supposed to teach me.

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Speaker 2: They didn't teach me. They just stole from me.

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Speaker 1: So I'm current, how are you getting paid?

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Speaker 2: So I was getting paid as a employee at first,

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Speaker 2: which was totally wrong. Fixed that now I'm getting paid

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Speaker 2: as a consultant. So that happened after I got ribbed twice.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I didn't know. I had

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Speaker 2: I love what it did for me allow me to

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Speaker 2: be in this space, but it's just still a learning

438
00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:40,639
Speaker 2: curve now because legalization just happened twenty sixteen. How are

439
00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,120
Speaker 2: you posing to know everything by now? Now?

440
00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,160
Speaker 1: When they give you the equity program, they don't hold

441
00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:46,720
Speaker 1: your hand through it. They just hand you a.

442
00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,280
Speaker 2: License basically at that time, yes, they.

443
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Speaker 1: Put you through any type of classes.

444
00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:52,680
Speaker 2: No, they didn't have none set up at the time,

445
00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:54,080
Speaker 2: So how.

446
00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,600
Speaker 1: Did they not expect you to mess up? Not mess up?

447
00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,480
Speaker 1: So it's like a slippery it's almost like a setup.

448
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Speaker 2: It's a set up. Yes, yes, and again I respect

449
00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,240
Speaker 2: what they did, but it's just like anything when you

450
00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,440
Speaker 2: start something off, you have to fine tuning after a while.

451
00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,440
Speaker 2: It's time for the fine tuning. Right now, currently it's

452
00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,879
Speaker 2: time for the fine tuning in it's happening now. But

453
00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,240
Speaker 2: for me to have to be open five years six years,

454
00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,480
Speaker 2: I was open six years. I have five break ins

455
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Speaker 2: in six years.

456
00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,120
Speaker 1: I had and it's all cash business.

457
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Speaker 2: All cash business, what's what's.

458
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Speaker 1: The rules with the Because I've had talked to multiple

459
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Speaker 1: people about this because I thought with the cannabis business,

460
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Speaker 1: legally you can't have the money in banks because then

461
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Speaker 1: it would be a federal.

462
00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,080
Speaker 2: So you're not supposed to have money in banks, but

463
00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,800
Speaker 2: yet and still there's cannabis banks. You understand what I'm saying.

464
00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:42,520
Speaker 2: So it's like, how do we do it if it's

465
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Speaker 2: federally illegal? But you're telling me you holding my money,

466
00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:48,080
Speaker 2: And then most of the banks are charging fees that are.

467
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Speaker 1: Reap Well, wait, what do you mean a cannabis bank.

468
00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:51,880
Speaker 1: You don't have to educate us.

469
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Speaker 2: So they have banks that take cannabis money that you

470
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Speaker 2: know that are actual legal banks, but they're set up

471
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Speaker 2: under the bank, not under like figuratively, but under the bank,

472
00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,520
Speaker 2: under like another LLC. So they'll take your money and

473
00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,400
Speaker 2: everything will be cool. You can have debit card purchases

474
00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,680
Speaker 2: and everything. But overall, at the end of the day,

475
00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:12,760
Speaker 2: if a bank wants to come in and shut you down,

476
00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:14,880
Speaker 2: they can come shut you down. Bank.

477
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Speaker 1: Why would a bank shut you down?

478
00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:21,280
Speaker 2: They can come because you're funneling funds illegally. Technically we're

479
00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:25,240
Speaker 2: still a Schedule one drug. So technically every day that

480
00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,320
Speaker 2: I'm open, I'm selling weed illegally to the FEDES. But

481
00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,080
Speaker 2: because the checks and balances within the state, I can

482
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Speaker 2: do a state legally, so the fedesers leave you alone.

483
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,960
Speaker 2: But every day that we sell, we we can go

484
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Speaker 2: to jail. But it's supposed to be legal, and it's

485
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Speaker 2: still people in jail for it.

486
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Speaker 1: That's a whole another Well, my brain is very slow.

487
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Speaker 1: So what you're saying is is that but that's only

488
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Speaker 1: illegal if you have a bank account, right, No.

489
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Speaker 2: It's illegal every every day that we're open. It's fetially illegal.

490
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,680
Speaker 2: Any cannabis business right now that's open right now as

491
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Speaker 2: we talk, is illegal because to the fes. But the

492
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,199
Speaker 2: fares aren't bothering you because of checks and balances that

493
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,240
Speaker 2: the state controls it. So they're like, go ahead, you

494
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 2: can do whatever you do as long as you ain't

495
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 2: doing too much. We're gonna come boy you because it

496
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 2: is legal by the state, but by the fares. No,

497
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Speaker 2: I'm illegal every day. I shouldn't be selling weak at all.

498
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Speaker 1: Okay. So but oh there's so much unpack. So do

499
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:23,480
Speaker 1: you still have the license?

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00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 2: Yes? I do?

501
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,040
Speaker 1: Okay, So in the.

502
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:27,479
Speaker 2: Bay, yes I do in the Bay.

503
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Speaker 1: But you don't have the cannabis store right now, no,

504
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:29,920
Speaker 1: honestare nope?

505
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:30,200
Speaker 2: Close?

506
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:34,080
Speaker 1: So do you have people hounding hounding you twenty four

507
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Speaker 1: to seven as far.

508
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,399
Speaker 2: As to get back opening store? Yeah, they missed me.

509
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 2: They're like, dude, like what are you doing? Like when

510
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:40,680
Speaker 2: you open and when you open, and I'm like, man,

511
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:44,399
Speaker 2: I need to, you know, make it more convenient inaccessible.

512
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Speaker 1: This looks good.

513
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 2: I need to make it more convenient accessible. So that's

514
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 2: why I pivoted and doing what I'm doing now done?

515
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 1: What are you doing?

516
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:53,880
Speaker 2: So? I do events and I do pop ups. I'm

517
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Speaker 2: basically a store without being a brick and mortar.

518
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Speaker 1: Okay, and are you allowed to sell well, this is

519
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,920
Speaker 1: kind of dumb question, but are you allowed to sell online?

520
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 1: Do you need to cut it? Sorry, So let's just

521
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 1: do a quick taste test, ma'am. This looks really good.

522
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 1: I love I love the Friday I love how you

523
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 1: did the Friday egg cool, the way you did the

524
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 1: spam had a little crest on it. I just have

525
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,920
Speaker 1: to acknowledge all this because it actually looks really deuicious. Okay,

526
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 1: here we gotcha.

527
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 2: It's that really does not taste bad.

528
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 1: I can't even refront that just tastes amazing.

529
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:35,160
Speaker 2: If she was talking about the spam all day, it's

530
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 2: actually not bad.

531
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Speaker 1: It's really good. Wow, the of this because some kids

532
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:40,359
Speaker 1: talk smack.

533
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really good.

534
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 1: M h call your homeboy back and be like it

535
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 1: was really good.

536
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 2: This is pretty good, all right.

537
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 1: Jared was talking smack guys back there about the strawberry jelly.

538
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 1: Strawberry jelly is definitely necessarily that's.

539
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Speaker 2: The you got to and couldn't do it wrong. Can't

540
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 2: put on mail or nothing. It has to be to jelly.

541
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 2: She took three bites. I'm happy. This is one of

542
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:10,679
Speaker 2: my main meals as a youngster.

543
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 1: This is a great man meal.

544
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 2: I love that lady to death. Boy, But dear mom,

545
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:35,679
Speaker 2: this is that So yes, you can sell online, but

546
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 2: he run at that same risk with the dealing with

547
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,400
Speaker 2: cards and dealing with the federal government because you're not

548
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 2: supposed to do that because if we're selling drugs technically,

549
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 2: So what I do? I throw events the same way

550
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Speaker 2: I threw events back when I got arrested. I throw

551
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Speaker 2: an event at a venue. Let's just say an art show.

552
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 2: You want weed at the event, I'll be outside with

553
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,879
Speaker 2: delivery truck. You text your order, we'll bring it right in.

554
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,679
Speaker 2: So the event is not a weed event. It's an

555
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 2: event that just so happens to have weed. So now

556
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 2: I don't have to have a brick and mortar. So

557
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 2: a lot of people follow me to figure out how

558
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 2: to move around in the space. And for the longest time,

559
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 2: I was like, get a brick and mortar, Get a

560
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,160
Speaker 2: brick and mortar. I'm not pushing that really no more.

561
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 2: Unless you own the land that the brick and mortar

562
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 2: is on. It's no point.

563
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:21,640
Speaker 1: Why do you say unless you own it?

564
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 2: Because so what I'm going through with the store the

565
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,360
Speaker 2: second time around, I got new partners. The new partners

566
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 2: I got were my original landlords, so they've been around

567
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 2: the whole time. I'm thinking that, oh we're good, y'all

568
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,679
Speaker 2: seen what happened these people that came to my wedding.

569
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 2: We're gonna be good. They were stealing from me too,

570
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 2: the landlord. Yes, so because they were hired by me

571
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 2: to handle the store. Mind you, I don't know how

572
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 2: to run the story yet because I was never told.

573
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 2: So when I don't know how to do something, I'm

574
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 2: going to employ somebody that knows how to do it.

575
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 2: So they said they didn't know how to do it.

576
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,640
Speaker 2: They was doing it, but they were stealing. And same thing.

577
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 2: I'm in the streets. People are like, Tuckie, we ain't

578
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 2: being paid. People I've never met, but they know me

579
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 2: from the store. Long story short, I ended up figuring

580
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 2: out that they were stealing. Confronting the moment, got it

581
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 2: proof that they you know that they were stealing. But

582
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 2: they are my landlord. So if I caught you stilling,

583
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 2: think they're gonna let me stay in their building? No,

584
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 2: I'm kicked out. So what am I supposed to do?

585
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 2: You have to own the land. If I'm just renting

586
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 2: from you, you can not like me. One month they cut

587
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 2: my least. Now my business is gone. What A'm I

588
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 2: supposed to do with that? And the city you know,

589
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 2: they know that this is going on, but what can

590
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 2: they do. You sign a least agreement with a place

591
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 2: they don't have to. The city can't make them keep

592
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 2: you there.

593
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 1: You can just fire them and just be like you're fired.

594
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 2: I could have in normal circumstances, but being at there

595
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 2: with my landlord, they felt like they had that over me.

596
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,640
Speaker 2: So if you don't want us here, then you can't

597
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 2: be here either.

598
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 1: Okay, So the how does the event's distribution go? Again?

599
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 2: So it's pretty pretty simple. You have an event, you

600
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 2: have someone attached to the event that has a license

601
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 2: that can sell and you can have smoke. I mean,

602
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 2: you can sell them smoke there. That person can be

603
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 2: in the same building or they can be outside, And

604
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 2: I just choose to do it outside because that way,

605
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 2: I don't When you label something as a weed event,

606
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 2: it tends to get overly scrutinized for no reason. You

607
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. We're just chilling with just smoking.

608
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 2: But if I labeled as an art event, I probably

609
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 2: wouldn't have no police set to show up, you know

610
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,719
Speaker 2: what I mean. So for me, it was about pivoting

611
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 2: to be able to still sell weed to the community,

612
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 2: but then do it to where I don't have to

613
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 2: be in a brick and mortar. I missed my staff, right,

614
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 2: But between staff, rent, utilities, and security, I spend like

615
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 2: fifty thousand a month just on that. Wow, just on

616
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 2: that nothing else. I was literally opened my doors to

617
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,199
Speaker 2: pay taxes and pay my staff. And that's something else

618
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 2: people don't know about the taxes on the weed. It's

619
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,199
Speaker 2: way different. We don't get no rite offs, Like how

620
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 2: we sitting here and it's office and you get right

621
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 2: off of the life electricity closing everything. I don't get

622
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,479
Speaker 2: none of that. Why because we're selling dope because we're

623
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 2: scheduled one. If they reschedule, not if they deschedule, not rescheduleed,

624
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,719
Speaker 2: they deschedule cannabis, we can get those right offs as

625
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 2: long as to the federal government, we are selling drugs.

626
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 2: There's no right off for selling drugs.

627
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,199
Speaker 1: Is it because it's a cash based business.

628
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 2: No, it's because it's a drug. It's a one drug. Okay.

629
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying this because I'm just trying to get an understanding.

630
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 1: Maybe from the government's perspective. They're like, Yo, they're gonna

631
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 1: figure out a way to hide some of the cash,

632
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: because you know that's what entrepreneurs we do. So I'm saying,

633
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: are they do you think that they're doing that? Because

634
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: they're like, look, man, they're already gonna pocket some we

635
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: don't need to add right offs.

636
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 2: So One, there's something called two eighty e to AD

637
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 2: is a tax code that effects cannabis. Two EDD just

638
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 2: basically says you're selling drugs, so you don't get no

639
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 2: right offs, and as long as cannabis is in that

640
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 2: schedule one, we'll never be able to get right All

641
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 2: I get right off is calls costs of goods. So

642
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:50,199
Speaker 2: that's the only thing I can.

643
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 1: But now how do they track like how much money

644
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: you make?

645
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 2: So we had to report everything. There's something called what

646
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,160
Speaker 2: is the database metric? So everything that you get from

647
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 2: seed to sales tracked. So now there are people who

648
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 2: doing stuff back door. We know that that's just what happens.

649
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 2: But I never I never did. I did everything above

650
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 2: board and got screwed twice. I don't want to say fuck,

651
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 2: but got screwed twice. It's a lot, and people don't

652
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 2: People aren't giving the game. People aren't sharing what they're

653
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 2: going through, so we don't all bump our head, Like

654
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 2: I went through a lot, and I think other people

655
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 2: should know what I was going through so they don't

656
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 2: have to go through that, you know what I mean?

657
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 1: So is there a way to make the money and

658
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: kind of hide the money? Like how are they knowing

659
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 1: how much weed you're purchasing and how much profit you're

660
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: supposed to make?

661
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 2: So they don't it's not about profit for them. They

662
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 2: don't care.

663
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: Like no, I'm just saying, like how when it comes

664
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: to the taxes, the taxes that every entrepreneurs, Yes, yes,

665
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: it can actually make it a business quite profitable if

666
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: you know how to work taxes, right. So I'm saying,

667
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: if you don't get any tax right off, the next

668
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,959
Speaker 1: thing I would do is just an entrepreneur would be

669
00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: done to have the money.

670
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what the people are doing.

671
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: And how but how are they able to do it?

672
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 2: Because because I'm thinking so, the way that they're able

673
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 2: to do it is because we're not federally legal. So

674
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 2: you can steal and I can say, hey, I'm going

675
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 2: to sue you. Where is that really going to go?

676
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 2: Because we're not fairly legal. You're gonna take me to

677
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 2: a federal court to sue me for money that you

678
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 2: claiming I stole from you. You got to prove it.

679
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 2: And then once you do prove it, we're still in

680
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 2: federal it's illegal. Like I've had people threatened lawsuits on

681
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 2: me that I was able to get null and void

682
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 2: just because it was fairly illegal. You got to know

683
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 2: your LLC. Right.

684
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, like, if I have a license to

685
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: sell weed, right and I don't get any tax right off,

686
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: can I just buy the weed, sell the weed, keep

687
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: the cash, and report like ten percent?

688
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 2: Not legally you can do it. Illegally, you can do it.

689
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: Can I get caught. Oh yeah, how would they catch me?

690
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: M Now do they have a check and balance? Like

691
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: you buy weed from a federal spot. I don't know

692
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: where you buy the weak? Is there like a No,

693
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: that's the metric.

694
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 2: That's the metric. Thing I'm telling you talking about metric

695
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 2: is how everything is tracked. So if you buy it

696
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 2: from a legal place, it has to go through metric.

697
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 2: If you're not buying it through legal, it don't matter.

698
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 2: It's not on the radar. So you can do whatever

699
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 2: you want.

700
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: So why wouldn't a person that has a license not

701
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: by legal, Why wouldn't we buy it illegal because.

702
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 2: They had a license and they're trying to do it right.

703
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 2: But it hasn't worked for anybody, not like not like

704
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 2: it should because the overtaxation and we're overly regulated too,

705
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 2: like we like it's a lot.

706
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: I see a lot of dispensaries in Los Angeles. They'll

707
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: open and then within a year or two they shut down.

708
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: And then I just also see like when I do

709
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: because I do engage in edibles just for everyone that's curious.

710
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: I take edibles to go to sleep, and when I

711
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: hang out with a lot of mommies and we are

712
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: hanging out with our kids. I like to I like

713
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: to pass around edibles, Star Wars for you, Star Wars

714
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 1: for You. But when I do go into dispensaries, there's

715
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: like all these rules about you know, paying cash, there's

716
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: cameras everywhere, and then they're always getting shut down. But

717
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: I guess it's very tempting if they're putting all these

718
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: rules up, so even though you're doing it legally, to

719
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: kind of go back to doing it illegally right to survive.

720
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 2: And it's forced a lot of people to do that.

721
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 2: But people like us who want to do illegally and

722
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 2: want to show other people that we can do illegally,

723
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 2: it makes it hard because they're, like, like you said,

724
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 2: every time one opens, one closes. So what I've been

725
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 2: telling people is quit coming in the game to just

726
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 2: grow and sell weed. Growing and selling weed is what

727
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 2: you get taxed. You know, well, you can't get no

728
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 2: tax ride offs on. So how brought you them? Shirts? Merch?

729
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 2: Use merch to make your money, build brands with the merch,

730
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 2: sell candles, sell lighters, that type of stuff you can

731
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 2: get a regular tax ride off on, and you can

732
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 2: use that money to help your business. But just trying

733
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 2: to use the money from your cannabis business is going

734
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 2: to be hard to really make money unless you have

735
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 2: like fifteen twenty stores. You know what I mean?

736
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: Is that why Like when you go onto cannabis stores,

737
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: they sell like the little pipes and the little you.

738
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 2: Gotta have sundryes. You have to because that your.

739
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: But you can get you can get all right off

740
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: from that.

741
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 2: Yes you can, because it's not a cannabis product. It's

742
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 2: a necessary so you don't get taxed like that the

743
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 2: only way you're getting taxed.

744
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: You don't think all the places are onto that game

745
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: or yeah, everyone knows it, but not everyone's doing it.

746
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, cause it's it's it's you got to have money

747
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 2: to do with. People are so focused on buying the

748
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 2: weed and buying other type of stuff for the stores

749
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 2: that kind of like slips their mind. I know the

750
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,959
Speaker 2: value of having other things to sell. So it's like

751
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 2: now you can't. You gotta figure out other stuff to sell.

752
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: Now, Like when I go to some of these places

753
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: in LA which are phenomenally built, like you know, they

754
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: got the dog products and you know, now is that

755
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: considered that's considered legal? It's non federal federally problemly.

756
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 2: No, no, no, that's illegal, so a lot of people tend

757
00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 2: to forget My kids. We talked about it too. My

758
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 2: oldest is twenty five, my youngest daughter is sixteen. They're

759
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 2: not really taught about checks and balances anymore in school.

760
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 2: California made cannabis legal like other states think it's thirty eight.

761
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 2: What California does is California business. The Feds could come

762
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 2: in and shut us down because we're not legal on

763
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 2: the Feds, but they're allowing the checks and balances to win,

764
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 2: so California can do whatever they want, So it's not

765
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 2: like the it would be the Feds have to be

766
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 2: being total assholes to come shut down everybody. You understand

767
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. But as long as California approves it,

768
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 2: the Fedes kind of like are their hands are tied.

769
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 2: As long as you, I guess, ain't doing too much.

770
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Stay off that radar, you

771
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 2: know what I mean. And for me, it was just

772
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 2: like I said, it wasn't even the FED thing. It

773
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 2: was just within the city. It made no sense to

774
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 2: stay open. My store was located across from where the

775
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 2: A's and the Raiders and the Warriors used to play

776
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 2: all three of them teams are gone. What am I

777
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 2: open for? I lost fifty percent of my business just

778
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 2: when that happened. And that was before getting ribbed by

779
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 2: two sets of groups.

780
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: So between when you say robbed, like, oh, well, you're

781
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: not like robbed with guns, I mean these are your partners.

782
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 2: No, I have five of those robberies with guns. I

783
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 2: had a car through my store the last time they

784
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 2: robbed it. They rode a car through my store. And

785
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 2: then I got robbed by my partners twice. So I've

786
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 2: been robbed seven times total in six years.

787
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not that's me excited about that. That industry

788
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 1: is sounds stressful.

789
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 2: It's very stressful.

790
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: And do you have to find different ways of like

791
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: hiding your money in these robberies.

792
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 2: Yes, And because they don't even get any money, that's

793
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 2: the thing. The money is in the safe or already

794
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 2: been dropped. Most of the money is spent on me rebuilding,

795
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 2: and then when you apply for like your insurance claim,

796
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 2: you don't get nothing. So I'm basically the last two

797
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 2: times I broke I broke into I didn't even file

798
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 2: a claim. It didn't make no sense, and I think

799
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 2: I had like about forty thousand dollars worth of damage,

800
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 2: but it made no sense because the stuff that they

801
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 2: damaged is covered. But it's like so much you gotta

802
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 2: go through with it. And then my landlord, it's his bill.

803
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, the landlord. If anybody's making a

804
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: profit off these damages, is the landlord?

805
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 2: Yes?

806
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: Yes, Well, shoot, you better talk to celebrities gets you

807
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: a building? How hard is it to get a commercial building?

808
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 2: It's not hard. But I didn't know what I know now.

809
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 2: Had I known what I'm you know, going into this,

810
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 2: I wouldn't even partner with them. But everything happens for

811
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 2: a reason and how it's supposed to happen. I needed

812
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 2: to go through that to learn what to do now.

813
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 2: Like I don't like, I don't hate the people that

814
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 2: did that, both parties. I don't have no negative ill

815
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 2: will toward them. They taught me a lot. They taught

816
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 2: me how to move like they move. I know more

817
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 2: about LLCs now, how to walk away from an LLC

818
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 2: or let an LLC bankrupt and what that looks like.

819
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 2: I understand that now. I know why they had fifteen

820
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 2: sixteen LLCs. I couldn't understand, like, why y'all got me

821
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 2: paying rent to this LLC and this LLC and this LLC.

822
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: Oh, I know, Now, what do you know from that?

823
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. Tell me.

824
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 2: When you have LLCs that literally stands for a limited

825
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 2: liability company, that means your liability to whatever debt or

826
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 2: whatever's going on with that business is limited based on

827
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 2: how you structured it. So when I came in with

828
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 2: my previous partners, that LLC and all that debt that

829
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 2: came along with it shouldn't have to travel with me

830
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,240
Speaker 2: because it's limited liability. I had no clue that was stealing.

831
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 2: I can prove that I didn't know they were taking

832
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 2: the money. Why a y'all coming after me to truck

833
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 2: people were trying to come up to me and sue

834
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 2: me personally take my house off. I had nothing to

835
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,720
Speaker 2: do with that. That's the purpose having a limit liability company.

836
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 2: It limits your liability. So once you know that, then

837
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 2: you start the bankruptcy process you go through that. That's

838
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 2: most of these people that don't look like us have

839
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 2: fifteen LLCs and they just left. Something goes on with one.

840
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 2: They watch it coming to me and.

841
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: Here I am my favorite corporation is an es court.

842
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 2: I love man. I love escort too.

843
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,439
Speaker 1: I love now that's my favorite. People talk at LLC,

844
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, I've never had an LLC, but I like

845
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: an escort.

846
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 2: I do my LLC, but then with my other businesses

847
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 2: I found my escort. You know what I'm saying, but

848
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 2: that I can't do that with cannabis.

849
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: Can you share for everybody the difference between an LLC

850
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: and an escort. Okay, come on, educate us.

851
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 2: I know the difference. But for me, how I equated it.

852
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 2: It's all with tax filing. That's how I equated the

853
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 2: LLC you filed one way, the ESCORP you filed another way.

854
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,760
Speaker 2: And it all depends on the money you made within

855
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 2: that year. But as far as like the definitions of

856
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 2: the es corp, I only have one comepan that's es Corporate.

857
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 2: My CPA handles it all. Get y'all a CPA.

858
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a really good account and shout outs

859
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: to Robert Robert Hill. I like es corpse because I

860
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: can pull a salary yep, and then the profit from

861
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: the business can be added as an extra income, so

862
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: I'm allowed to basically have the benefits of write off

863
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: employment and profitability all in one scoop. So like when

864
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: it comes to buying an asset, it benefits me more,

865
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: Yes and LLCs. I just know that my accountants, whenever

866
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: my company's gross a certain amount of money, they're like, yo,

867
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: you're getting taxed at a higher rate versus the escorp.

868
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 1: You get taxed, you save a lot more money. So

869
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: but I never really understood the benefits. I just know

870
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: that every time, like maybe the first year, they'll be like,

871
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 1: you can, you can slide out the sea corp. But

872
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: as that company grows and revenues, do I get the

873
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: fork out of here and switch the escort. And it's

874
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: so crazy because I remember fighting my account on one

875
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: of my business for years because I thought it would

876
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: cost more money or it'd be like a whole bunch

877
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: of work. And all I had to do was say okay,

878
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 1: and he will just click a box and that's it.

879
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: And when I say, I lost a lot of money,

880
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: and I preach it to everyone that works for me

881
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: to turn into corporation, I can preach it. So I

882
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,919
Speaker 1: turned purple. These guys will never do it. The day

883
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: they do it, though, I will be so happy. It's

884
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: a good thing. But but that's interesting, so hum.

885
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 2: And I'm not trying to I'm not trying to drag

886
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,720
Speaker 2: on industry and tell y'all not to get in. It's

887
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,720
Speaker 2: it's it's it's it's a new industry, so it's gonna

888
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 2: go through bumps.

889
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 1: Do you with the license? Can you grow your own weed?

890
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 2: So I don't have a grow license on purpose, but

891
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 2: I can get a grow license, Yes I can. I

892
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 2: can do that.

893
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: Why don't you have one on purpose? You're gonna get

894
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 1: a lot of people hitting you up, like, yo, let's

895
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 1: get into business together.

896
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 2: Because I'd rather I've grown weed for a long time,

897
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 2: but I don't have the desire to grow with anymore.

898
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 2: I'd rather, well, before I came out, I just went

899
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 2: and visit the farm. I'd rather buy weed from farms

900
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 2: that I trust and let them deal with that. They

901
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 2: gotta deal with the overhead, the maintenance, the growing. I

902
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 2: don't want to deal with that. No more. People don't

903
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 2: realize growing weed is a process and it takes a

904
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 2: lot of money and a lot of time, and if

905
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 2: you don't have neither, your product's not gonna be good.

906
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 2: So I just don't. I don't have the time or

907
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 2: the money to do it. I'm not a different place

908
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 2: in my life. I got grandkids. I don't want to

909
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 2: grow eat.

910
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 1: What's the profitability margins is when you buy it?

911
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 2: So for me, I'm speaking for for me. When I

912
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 2: buy weed, I try. I think of weed buying as

913
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 2: a cousinsumer as well as a you know owner. I

914
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 2: want to buy a good weed for a good price.

915
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 2: So when I buy weed, whatever you sell it to

916
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 2: me for. Some companies do like a two to three

917
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 2: hundred percent markup. I may do like a thirty percent markup.

918
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 2: So if I get it for fifteen, some companies will

919
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 2: sell it for forty five. That's enough for them to

920
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 2: buy another one, you know, make some money. Me personally,

921
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 2: I may do it for let's just say thirty thirty five,

922
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 2: as long as I got enough to rebuy and make

923
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 2: five dollars.

924
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: Why do you do that for me?

925
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 2: I want you to come back and buy more. So

926
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 2: if I'm cheaper, you're gonna come back and buy more.

927
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,479
Speaker 2: Then if you just come back that one time, Okay,

928
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 2: Tucky gave me some weed. It was good. I spent

929
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 2: the high for it. But maybe I come back to

930
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 2: him just when I'm in town, just on the flute.

931
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 2: But if I'm giving to you that same good weed

932
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 2: for maybe four dollars cheaper, you're gonna come by it

933
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 2: from me, and it's not hurting me profit wise.

934
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 1: To me, you just remind me of that clip of

935
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: DC Young Clan eating while broke, where he's like this

936
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: somebody's step using this step on bo.

937
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, like in that shout out, DC, that's

938
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 2: family too, praise y'all. That's my guy. But like, no,

939
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,280
Speaker 2: it's it's I approached legal like I did in the streets.

940
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 2: Everybody sells weed. What's going to make me different than you?

941
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 2: My price?

942
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I like that. I like that. That's exactly

943
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: what he That was. Literally, there's a clip they're talking

944
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: about I washed it. Yeah, it was a funny clip.

945
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 1: But he was like, yeah, man, that's rice.

946
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 2: That comes from the hustle's mentality. A lot of the

947
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 2: people that's in the space now never saw weed before ever,

948
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 2: so they don't get that. That's something I've been trying

949
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 2: to tell the city for the longest time. It's like, y'all,

950
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 2: if y'all will lower the taxes, we would sell more

951
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 2: product because the customers are coming in they seeing as

952
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 2: high tax it limits how much they want to buy.

953
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 2: But if the taxes is lowered, they would buy more

954
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 2: and y'all would get more tax money. But they don't.

955
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 2: They don't understand that. They don't they don't get it.

956
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 1: How do you choose your vendors as far as like edibles.

957
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 2: Testing them, Bring them in, let us test them, give

958
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 2: them to my staff, excuse me, let them test them,

959
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 2: make sure they're good, and then go from there.

960
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: It's pretty simple, like how do I qualify to be

961
00:41:59,280 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: a test?

962
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 2: What you want? What you need? I'll be selling home,

963
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 2: but you can't mail it.

964
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 1: You can't mail it to me?

965
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 2: Huh? I can mail you don't tell nobody.

966
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,439
Speaker 1: It's okay because I mailed my mom edle.

967
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 2: I can mail a lot of stuff. You know, we'll

968
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 2: talk off.

969
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, is that bad though? Can you mail edibles?

970
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 2: You can edibles, just don't tell nobody e mailing edibles.

971
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 2: If you're gonna mail.

972
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: Edibles, is it illegal to me?

973
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 2: You're not supposed to mail anything with T A C

974
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 2: in across state lines.

975
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, so.

976
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 2: Cross state line. If you're in California and you're sending

977
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 2: somebody some edibles, put something else in it, like maybe

978
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 2: a candle or a lighter or a T shirt. You

979
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, mix it up. But if you're

980
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 2: you cannot ship t ac across state lines. It's illegal.

981
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: Just so you know everyone that when Tucky came, he

982
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 1: game gifts. I love gifts gifts. He gave me an edible,

983
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 1: he gave me a lighter, and he gave me a

984
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,959
Speaker 1: really cool T shirt the evolution of the blunts, which

985
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: was really cool, which I'm going to ask for it

986
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: in black and white, probably gonna send them. You did

987
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: not know this, but God works so funny with me.

988
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,760
Speaker 1: I needed a lighter for my house. This sounds really crazy,

989
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 1: and I don't know why.

990
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 2: God.

991
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: I was like, I have these like matches that are

992
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: busted at home and I keep going to my stove

993
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: and like relighting them to light the candles in my house.

994
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: And I was like, why is it that I just

995
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 1: can't remember to buy a lighter even know where to

996
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: buy a lighter from, But you handed me a lighter?

997
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: Is that crazy? Like that, just the most random things

998
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: will make somebody be like Yes, I needed.

999
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 2: This, I believe wholeheartedly. And like I said, I called

1000
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 2: Hemley father yeahwah yahweh makes things happen when it's supposed

1001
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 2: to happen. Even with just us, we've been talking for

1002
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 2: a year. I could have been out here. It was

1003
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 2: meant for me to come to day. You know what

1004
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 2: I'm saying, And I'm fine with that. Like everything that's

1005
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 2: happened in my life, it's happened because it's supposed to

1006
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 2: and I don't know that it's supposed to happen. I'm

1007
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,399
Speaker 2: just walking the path. Like I never thought getting called

1008
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 2: for selling we was gonna leave me to open the store.

1009
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 2: Like all the people I've met since then met you

1010
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 2: because of that, you know what I'm saying, So I

1011
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 2: take it for what it is. It's just like I'm

1012
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 2: walking my path and I got to do whatever I

1013
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 2: can while I'm here to keep that path straight. That's

1014
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 2: why I don't believe in like negative like all that

1015
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 2: arguing and all that I don't live there. Me and

1016
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 2: my wife could argue and I'm hugging her five minutes later.

1017
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I love that, I don't

1018
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 2: I'd rather visit Anger, but I don't want to live there.

1019
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: And then have you considered being a week consultant. Well

1020
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: you are. I was emailing your consultants. So how do

1021
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: people go about reaching you for that? And what services

1022
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: do you provide as a we consult I.

1023
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 2: Tell everybody to hit me on ig to start first,

1024
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 2: just because it's a lot of weird though. I don't

1025
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 2: want to give you my email on my phone numbers.

1026
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 2: I want to know kind of people call me. But

1027
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 2: I offer everything. I do a full course where I

1028
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 2: do an intro to cannabis where it's like just the

1029
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 2: business of cannabis, but then I also do an intro

1030
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 2: to like growing techniques, and I do all the way

1031
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 2: up to advance shout out our hearing and our hearings.

1032
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,240
Speaker 2: That is how I started teaching. He had a company

1033
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 2: called the Herington Institute and he hired me as a

1034
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 2: teacher and I was like, all right, cool, let me

1035
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 2: do it. And I loved it. I was like, man,

1036
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 2: it's amazing. So I just took my curriculum that I

1037
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 2: had with them, made it for me and now I

1038
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 2: teach students with it.

1039
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: And you teach people with a license or without, with or.

1040
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 2: Without, and I do it too. I'm probably different than

1041
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 2: anybody else because I allowed them to tell me what

1042
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 2: they want. So I have maybe I take four students

1043
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 2: at the time, and I'll have them tell me what

1044
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 2: it is you want to know about cannibis, what is

1045
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 2: it that you're trying to do, what you're trying to achieve,

1046
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 2: and then I guide my teaching for those six weeks

1047
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 2: for that and after that they give full access to me,

1048
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 2: full access to my black book. Any connections that I have,

1049
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 2: I share with them. All of my students are still

1050
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 2: my friends, Like I see myt different conferences, two of them,

1051
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 2: three of my I've had eight students total. Three of

1052
00:45:54,680 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 2: them are gms at dispensaries now, three of them are

1053
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,280
Speaker 2: budtenders at dispensaries. One of them is even the cannabis

1054
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 2: field at all. He realized that it wasn't what he

1055
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 2: wanted to do, so he's doing ancillary stuff for cannabis

1056
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 2: businesses and he's eating. He called me all the time, like, man,

1057
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 2: I'm so glad you changed because he went to open

1058
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 2: the store like and I wasn't trying to change his mind.

1059
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 2: But I want to be real educated. If you don't

1060
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 2: know about to adye, there's no reason for you to

1061
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 2: jump into this trying to grow and sell eating.

1062
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: Now do you assist people in the paperwork to get

1063
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: a license or how hard is it to get a license?

1064
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 2: So getting a license is pretty easy. The city now

1065
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 2: has stuff set up to help people with applying for it.

1066
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 2: So if people want to have me help them do that,

1067
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 2: I will, but I would prefer them to go through

1068
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 2: the city that they're in because every city has different requirements.

1069
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 2: So if you come to me you're from Oakland, I

1070
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 2: can help you with the requirements, but I can't help

1071
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 2: them from LA because I don't know their requirements. You'd

1072
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 2: have to do the research on.

1073
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: That, because now are you able to do those? City nonprofit?

1074
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: Because I know every so I know in Los Angeles

1075
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: we have like economic development centers, we have business source centers.

1076
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: If you're in Los Angeles and you are not familiar,

1077
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: but the city of Los Angeles really supports entrepreneurs. They

1078
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: have right now. We have a legacy grant. If you've

1079
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,439
Speaker 1: been in business for over twenty years, there's a twenty

1080
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 1: thousand dollars grant being clear and the city business source

1081
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: centers locally will help you put together that paperwork. You

1082
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: don't even have to struggle on your own. It will

1083
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: probably help you actually get it. Will They also help

1084
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: you with your DBAs, your escorps. They even have grants

1085
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 1: for immigrants out right now in LA where if you

1086
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: are an immigrant or you have various to entry and employment,

1087
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 1: you can get ten thousand dollars grant for us a

1088
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: legalized streetcart. They help you with your permits and everything.

1089
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 1: LA definitely does it.

1090
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 2: Just Oakland, Oakland things they have those type of things.

1091
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 2: That was crazy, is most of my money last year

1092
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 2: I made was from grant's. Ninety nine percent of money

1093
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 2: I made last year is from grants, just from knowing

1094
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:01,760
Speaker 2: how to apply for them. But that's something I've learned.

1095
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 2: Those are things that we we tend not to know

1096
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 2: where the money is. It's a grand fund everything. You

1097
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 2: just got to know where to find them.

1098
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: Now do you get help to apply for your grants?

1099
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: So you just do it on your own?

1100
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 2: So I have I have a grant writer on my team.

1101
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 1: Give a grant writer on your team. That's interesting.

1102
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 2: I have a grand writer on my team. But then

1103
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 2: cheat code is what's that thing called the AI theme

1104
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 2: chat GBT. That's the best grant writer you're gonna find. Really,

1105
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 2: what get the pay that twenty dollars a month and

1106
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 2: get that in this game I got from somebody else

1107
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 2: within the last six months. When I say my proposals

1108
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 2: have been amazing, you just tell it what you wanted

1109
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,399
Speaker 2: to do and how you're trying to propose it. I'm

1110
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 2: trying to tell you, I damnifire, my grand writer. I'm like,

1111
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 2: what am I using you for? He talking about, Well,

1112
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,919
Speaker 2: that's what I use you chat GBT, I said, you bastards.

1113
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Let me tell you something. Chat GBT

1114
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 1: is a great investment. I if you it's weird. I

1115
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: have like a love hate personality. Like you, you love me,

1116
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 1: but you also can hate me easily because some people

1117
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: consider me me mean because I'm like my homie says,

1118
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 1: I'm mean with the eyes. That's what it is.

1119
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 2: Everybody. She's the sweetest person on earth, so I know.

1120
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 1: But but what I do is sometimes when I'm sending

1121
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 1: an email and I need something important, of course my

1122
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 1: original email will be like yo, where is it at?

1123
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: Or give it to me, like why are you late? Whatever?

1124
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: I'll literally type that and say make it nice and

1125
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: chatchy be what. I literally will write, what my email

1126
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 1: is this EBT and make this like I was, edit

1127
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: this and I'll be going off like my and I'll

1128
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: be ready to press in, and I go, oh, don't pressent.

1129
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: Take everything you wrote, put it in chat GPT and

1130
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: I'll be like making business professional. Make it nice, make

1131
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: it warm, man, and it'll say exactly what I wanted

1132
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: to say, but with like a cheerry and a smile.

1133
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 2: Yes, very nice. Is that crazy man that thing? When

1134
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 2: he told me that, I said, man, that's some free game.

1135
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 2: I spent that twenty every month. It don't bother me.

1136
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: It is great. But it's also free game for everyone

1137
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:05,760
Speaker 1: out there. We did not know that applying for grants

1138
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 1: you could totally use chat gypt. That is the best

1139
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: kept secret there. And it's cool because you could take

1140
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: what the grant requirement is and probably just.

1141
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 2: Copy aja it literally, It's like it makes it so

1142
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 2: like and chat GPT.

1143
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 1: What I noticed is it keeps a log of your

1144
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: stuff because sometimes cheat code. I know a lot of

1145
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,240
Speaker 1: people people have different theories on how I get guests

1146
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: on the show, but every once in a while I

1147
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: will have to redraft an email for requesting a guest.

1148
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 1: And chat GBT knows so much about eating while broke

1149
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 1: that I don't even have to like retype all stuff.

1150
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 1: Chat GBT will like do my whole request and know

1151
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: everything about eating while broke. I don't know how, and

1152
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: I could be like, well, just send this request to

1153
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 1: you know whoever, and they'll do the whole thing and

1154
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 1: I'll tweak it.

1155
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 2: Of course, you know, because you know it. Chat GBT

1156
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 2: will also send you down the the rabbit hole too

1157
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 2: if you ain't paying attention, Like if you ask it

1158
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 2: too much and get too technical with it, it it

1159
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 2: special stuff out you'll be like what, But if you

1160
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 2: just give it the key.

1161
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 1: Point, it's good. And a lot of people don't know

1162
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: this about chat EPT. I don't know why we sound

1163
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: like a damn chat g EPT commercial, but it works.

1164
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:25,800
Speaker 1: Giving game images, Oh man, let me tell you something.

1165
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: I did my daughter' birthday party invitation. I did the

1166
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 1: basic invitation, and of course it's still jinky because it

1167
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 1: won't have like the letters right for the words right,

1168
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 1: and then I'll go over and photoshop and just re

1169
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: edit it so like even for logos, like I did

1170
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: another company recently and I was I did like thirty

1171
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 1: you know prompts, and I finally got the logo I wanted.

1172
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: I said, hey, and people like I love that lugo.

1173
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, thank you cost me twenty dollars. Did you

1174
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: know that?

1175
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 2: Yes, my people that put me on a chat GPT

1176
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 2: because I was still like AI whatever. We was in

1177
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 2: the process of writing some grants and applying for some money,

1178
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 2: and my proposal was a one. It was this stuff

1179
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 2: I typed up myself and he was like, take that

1180
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 2: same proposal and run through chat chyit beteam, watch what happens.

1181
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, what's wrong with this? Like it's nothing wrong

1182
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 2: with it, but watch what happens, man, I said, Yeah,

1183
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 2: I'm stuck. Instantly paid that twenty dollars. It would write there, I.

1184
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: Have it, definitely, and I do it for like I said,

1185
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: just because my tone, as my friends would say, have

1186
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 1: me not. But my tone could come off a little

1187
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 1: like crack, like cold, and so it sounds crazy. But

1188
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: I take that extra minute to like just soft soften

1189
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: my so I sound like a human being that doesn't

1190
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: want to kill you.

1191
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 2: I tell my wife that all the time, like babe,

1192
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 2: retype that you cannot because I see her she fuman,

1193
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 2: watch she tip. That's how I'm babe, You're typing to

1194
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 2: the owner like of your company, of your whole. You

1195
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 2: can't do that, like redo that. So, yeah, it's been

1196
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 2: a great one.

1197
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: Hundred percent in that person. And I'm like, right before

1198
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 1: I present, because I have mentors. I am a strong person.

1199
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:05,439
Speaker 1: I love I love mentors, even though I will say

1200
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: the older I get, the more I fight with them,

1201
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 1: the more I'm like, I know what I'm talking about.

1202
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: And then they check me and I'll be like, I

1203
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: know an hour from now, a week from now, the

1204
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,280
Speaker 1: answer is going to be you're right and I'm wrong.

1205
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 1: And I've bumped my head enough times to know that. Yeah,

1206
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 1: I may have that quick clap back with my mentor

1207
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 1: and they may even have a quick clap back with me, right,

1208
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, I'm gonna sit

1209
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: for an hour in that heat and I got to

1210
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: kiss the pinky ring. That's you know, That's it.

1211
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,399
Speaker 2: That's growth though too, that's being a mature, a dope,

1212
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like, I love to learn.

1213
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 2: I feel like I can learn from anybody older, younger,

1214
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,479
Speaker 2: in between. It don't matter if you got something that's

1215
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 2: a value. I need to listen. Listen, listen.

1216
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: When you pivot and your business. Do you look at

1217
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: it as a pivot or do you sometimes look at

1218
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 1: it as you're settling.

1219
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 2: So for me, I look at it as pivots because

1220
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 2: for me, I don't settle for shit because I know

1221
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 2: that like I got bills, like all my bills on

1222
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 2: auto pay, so I gotta.

1223
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 1: Figure out it's not like me we could be friends, that's.

1224
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 2: That's perfectly fine, Like like you had. I have to

1225
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 2: be able to make my money for my lifestyle, for

1226
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 2: my kids, my grandkids, my wife. So now I don't

1227
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,800
Speaker 2: look at for me a pivot, especially in just life

1228
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 2: in general. Pivots for me is like how can I

1229
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,839
Speaker 2: put it all my losses, I take a lessons, so

1230
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 2: I don't look at it as a loss, as a

1231
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 2: bad thing. I had to learn something from it, you

1232
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 2: know what I mean? So where you learn from it?

1233
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 2: How do you apply that to the next thing you're

1234
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,959
Speaker 2: finna do. I never thought cannabis was gonna last five

1235
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 2: three years. On the legal side, I was able to

1236
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 2: be in it six years running a good store, doing

1237
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 2: a lot of good stuff for the community, like fuck

1238
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 2: just selling weed. I had expudgement clinics at my store

1239
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 2: for people who had case I've had what expensive bungement

1240
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 2: clining like where they come in and help you get

1241
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 2: your record clear. So I've had three those at my

1242
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 2: store before I've had open Like I have multiple food

1243
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 2: trucks come to my store and just set up and

1244
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 2: just do food for the for the community. Like I'm

1245
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 2: a big community person. That doesn't bother me. So it's like,

1246
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 2: let me figure out ways to move around and do

1247
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 2: what I need to do. But I don't. My pivots

1248
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:27,240
Speaker 2: have always been about growing, So it's just like, Okay,

1249
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 2: it's not working, let me find out what do work

1250
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 2: and get on it, Like I just do you.

1251
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 1: Think that's like the secret behind being a great entrepreneur

1252
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: is that pivot versus an l Like I feel what

1253
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: the most the entrepreneurs that I respect the most are

1254
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 1: the ones that pivot the best. For me, It's like

1255
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:49,399
Speaker 1: watching a sport, like it's not that I shut down

1256
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 1: the company, it's that I pivoted into something that looked

1257
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 1: like it was producing better results. Yes, that's all I

1258
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 1: was wondering from your perspective, because to say like, hey,

1259
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: you know I got into this industry. You know, for

1260
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: whatever reason I got I got I got the license

1261
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: everything worked in my favor. But I was able to say, Okay,

1262
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: my store was getting robbed six times, this was happening.

1263
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,320
Speaker 1: Let me relook at the playing board, let me replay

1264
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 1: the numbers. I'm losing fifty thousand dollars a month doing this, Well,

1265
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: this makes the business more profitable. Yes, and it's I think.

1266
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 1: On your first business, I know, at least for me,

1267
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 1: I would be very emotional about it. Yeah, I'll be

1268
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,959
Speaker 1: crying and stuff. Like I told you that I don't

1269
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 1: live it long. But my first company, it took me

1270
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:33,720
Speaker 1: about I would say, four years to do the full breakup.

1271
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 1: But that's how I am. I guess in all because.

1272
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 2: You got to. You think, for me, I could have

1273
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 2: when the first partner did what they did and left,

1274
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 2: I should have been done then, but I didn't know.

1275
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:47,399
Speaker 2: I'm still trying. I'm like, let's figure let's pivot, let's

1276
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 2: figure something out. Because for me, I'm like, I see

1277
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 2: what we're doing in the community, Okay, can get better.

1278
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 2: We'll figure something out. I got back with them and

1279
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 2: it was kind of it's the same thing all over again.

1280
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 2: That tarnished me on working with other people. But at

1281
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 2: the same time, it can't those are just two bad humans.

1282
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 2: Everybody else not bad. Yeah, so I have to look

1283
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 2: at it like they're like, no, you're gonna You're gonna

1284
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 2: have to work with people along whatever journey you're on.

1285
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. That's just it is what

1286
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 2: it is. But I just took like I said, I

1287
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 2: took that loss as a lesson and use that lesson

1288
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 2: to help me pivot to where I'm man now. Because

1289
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Speaker 2: for the longest time, I was telling everybody at Mama,

1290
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 2: get you a store, get you a store. It's it's

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00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 2: it's money and ownership in the space. But it was

1292
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 2: the wrong type of ownership. I was telling him to

1293
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 2: get that store ownership ain't always cracked up to be.

1294
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 2: There's other ways to own in the space, and I'm

1295
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 2: realizing that now and making sure I share that.

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Speaker 1: What are your top three favorite books as an entrepreneur?

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00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 2: Ooh, that is a good question. Rich Man poor Man

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00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 2: is when I always read and I haven't read a

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00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 2: long time to read again.

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00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 1: Rich Man poor Man?

1301
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 2: Or rich Dad Poor Dad, Rich Dad, Poor Dad. That's

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00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 2: the one.

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00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: I was like, rich Man poor Man, I wonder what

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00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 1: is that?

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00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 2: Okay, that's the one that's it's been a minute.

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00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 1: That's a long time.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let me see. Let me see books as an entrepreneur, what.

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00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 1: Books that really helped carry you through? Are you a

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00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 1: big readers?

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00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 2: I used to be a big reader, but now I'm

1311
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 2: more of like a go, sit and ask type person,

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00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, let me meet with you,

1313
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 2: let me pick your brain. If that's gonna cost me

1314
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 2: your feed, let me pay that feed on one of

1315
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 2: them kind of people Like I used to have time

1316
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 2: to read, but now I need to actually do more reading.

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00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 2: I'm glad you actually brought that up. I talked about WFE.

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00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 2: I don't need to read some more. Not that I

1319
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 2: don't read, but I don't really like I used to.

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00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 2: So I know the rich the rich dad poor dad

1321
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 2: for sure, But other than that, I can't really think

1322
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 2: of him because my entrepreneur game come from me being

1323
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 2: around people and soaking up and taking notes and being

1324
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 2: in the rooms with people and asking questions. That's why

1325
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 2: I got a lot of my game.

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Speaker 1: Friend, I like that, but I I have to say,

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00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 1: I love to read. I love to read. There are

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00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 1: some books I'll definitely sidebar you and like send you

1329
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 1: some books that I think really change the way I

1330
00:58:56,440 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: do business, and like genuinely enjoyed reading please do. I

1331
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 1: was just genuinely curious because I was like, maybe he

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00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 1: knows something that I don't know.

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Speaker 2: But it's a trip that the book learning and the

1334
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 2: people learning it still is, you know what I mean,

1335
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 2: because somebody had to write the book, A person had

1336
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,479
Speaker 2: to write it. So it's just I'm just big on learning,

1337
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 2: and I can learn from let's just sitting here. I've

1338
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 2: already learned stuff from you. I don't even know about it.

1339
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 2: That's making me want to do more, you know what

1340
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 2: I mean. I just made a post maybe about two

1341
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 2: three weeks ago that I want to be around people

1342
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 2: that make me better, that's making more money than me,

1343
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 2: that's hustling harder than me, that's doing better than me. Like,

1344
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,439
Speaker 2: I want that because it's going to make me want

1345
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 2: to do better hanging around people who's doing less. Not

1346
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 2: that they're bad or anything, but we're not in the

1347
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 2: same space, you know what I mean.

1348
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 1: Eating while broke would not exist if at that period

1349
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 1: in my life, I wasn't hanging out more with my

1350
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 1: more successful friends. I noticed personally, for myself, I'm more

1351
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: comfortable with the friends that aren't doing as well. But

1352
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 1: when I get around my friends that are extremely successful,

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01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:04,439
Speaker 1: I mean millionaires one, they don't treat me different at all.

1354
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 1: But the conversation is different. The conversation is constantly about creating,

1355
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 1: building the world that hasn't been seen yet, whether it's

1356
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 1: planning a tree, building this building that. Like, the conversation

1357
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: is different. And then the people at this other level,

1358
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 1: the conversation is more sad to say, but like I

1359
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 1: call it like trailer talk, like you know what girl

1360
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 1: you're sleeping with, who's getting cheated on? Who who has this?

1361
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 1: And who's doing that? And it's more gossipy versus like

1362
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 1: we're trying. And then it's more like last minute content creation,

1363
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 1: like oh I see social a YouTube page and I

1364
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 1: heard they did that, so they'll do three poles and

1365
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 1: for like three seconds. But the ones that are really successful,

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01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 1: you hang around them enough, it is damn well impossible

1367
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 1: not to dream big. Yeah, and they dream big. They

1368
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 1: dream like they been dreaming and all they dreams came true.

1369
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 1: But in reality, you hang out with successful people enough,

1370
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 1: we realize that they cry alone, they failed alone, you

1371
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. They go through all that but

1372
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:10,479
Speaker 1: that that that consistency of I'm gonna keep throwing stuff

1373
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:12,439
Speaker 1: at the board and we'll see what sticks really works

1374
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 1: with them. But I will say this, my best moments

1375
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 1: are hanging around now that my other friends aren't fun times.

1376
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 1: But my best like get up is if I'm surrounding

1377
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 1: myself by people that are straight winners, like thoroughbreds. I

1378
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 1: remember one time I had a low patch. This was

1379
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 1: like a couple of years ago. One of my successful

1380
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 1: friends sent me this like Instagram thing and it was

1381
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 1: like a pack of dogs will walk running together and

1382
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 1: one dog was weak, and it was like keep running

1383
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 1: with us, You'll you'll catch up and you know, but

1384
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 1: it was it was kind of like, yo, run with us,

1385
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 1: like you know, don't We don't give a fuck where

1386
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:56,439
Speaker 1: you at. We don't care if you fall, you broke

1387
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 1: your leg, continue to run with us, Wenn you're gonna

1388
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 1: catch the speed or whatever.

1389
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 2: In the circles I want to be in, Like it's

1390
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 2: nothing wrong. You got people grew up with that, you

1391
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 2: grew apart from there's nothing wrong with that, you know

1392
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like I'm and I'm realizing that I'm

1393
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 2: forty four. I finally realized that about thirty six thirty seven,

1394
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 2: it's okay to have new friends, you know what I mean,

1395
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 2: like a lot of like for example, Neo, I mean

1396
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 2: Neo five years ago. That's my Pattner. Like we talked

1397
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 2: just about regular can and stuff. Same thing with Slink.

1398
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 2: A bunch of people who I've seen come on here. Yeah,

1399
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 2: that's he is one of the most viral. That is

1400
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 2: the homes. Niggas know that. Niggas know your mama, come

1401
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 2: on now.

1402
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 1: Shout out to Slink sleep brother sleep Man talking about

1403
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 1: how he had been up and down and up and down,

1404
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 1: but he was the most impressive on the show with vulnerability.

1405
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 1: I think he had like forty dollars in his pocket

1406
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 1: at the time. But he had put out this We

1407
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 1: had put out this clip of him saying like, yeah, man,

1408
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 1: I took my wife to Maldives or my girl's mouth

1409
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 1: beves and then I came home and was eating chili dogs.

1410
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 1: Every day. I promise you that clip is shared. We

1411
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 1: get the alerts on how many times it is shared consistently.

1412
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 2: Back to Bank, He's not lying. I don't know, because

1413
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:12,919
Speaker 2: I know in personally he ain't lying. He literally went

1414
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 2: I know her, know the old lady, know the kids.

1415
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 2: They win, had a great time. He got back like

1416
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 2: bro broken shit. She would funny. He SLINKs to cook

1417
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 2: pies and stuff and like like you know, like we're hustlers. Yeah.

1418
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, he shared his story. It was really great. What

1419
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 1: advice would you give to someone that doesn't have a license,

1420
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 1: that does do that is in the business illegally and

1421
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 1: wants to go legal or what advice would you give

1422
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 1: him them? Period if they are doing it illegally and

1423
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 1: that's what they feel they only.

1424
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 2: Know right, most of us are like that, you know

1425
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, because that's so we know a lot

1426
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 2: of people even know that this legal stuff is going on.

1427
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 2: If you're interested in getting in the legal space, my

1428
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 2: advice is find a me and suck up game. Do

1429
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 2: a lot of research. Do as much research as you

1430
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 2: can on your own, but find people in the space

1431
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 2: that's in the space that's actually doing the work. Don't

1432
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 2: get coined. Find somebody that's in the space doing the

1433
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 2: work and work with them. Talk to them, ask them questions.

1434
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 2: Getting these rooms, be willing to spend money to go

1435
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:13,479
Speaker 2: to some of these events, Like a lot of people

1436
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 2: don't realize when I did eighty five sold, when I

1437
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 2: did sway On, I'm doing eating while Bro, I'm paying

1438
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 2: for myself to get here. That's money. That's like marketing

1439
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 2: money to me. Be willing to spend money on yourself.

1440
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 2: A lot of people in rap and just whatever don't

1441
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 2: want to spend money on themselves, But you want somebody

1442
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 2: to spend money on you, but you're not want to

1443
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 2: spend no money in yourself. Be won't spend some money

1444
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 2: on yourself. Be willing to put yourself in their rooms

1445
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 2: and set yourself a budget to be able to go

1446
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 2: do that. That's what would be my advice is getting

1447
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 2: these rooms and talk to these people. So you got

1448
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 2: to do it.

1449
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 1: Shout out to Tucky Blunt. You could find him on Instagram.

1450
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 1: You are very nice, very approachable, So you guys don't

1451
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 1: have to be out there all like well, I need

1452
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 1: to address myself in a suit and approach me. He's

1453
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 1: very approachable. We've been talking back and forth for like

1454
01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:01,600
Speaker 1: a year about doing this episode, and so I'm saying

1455
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 1: this sidebar, like, hey, you can literally reach out to him,

1456
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 1: ask these questions on like what the next steps are,

1457
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 1: full transparency. If he does have a consulting fee, that's great.

1458
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 1: I would definitely recommend it. I mean, you want to

1459
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 1: hire someone that's been in your shoes and that you

1460
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 1: can feel comfortable being transparent with, you know, Like I

1461
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 1: have a pastor, which I want to bring him on

1462
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 1: the show. He doesn't know yet, but like I say

1463
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 1: the craziest stuff in front of my pastor. But I

1464
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 1: like that because I'm like, you know what, it's someone

1465
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 1: that I can relate to. But that's walking the direction

1466
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:38,919
Speaker 1: that I want to go in. And that's the same

1467
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 1: thing I would say to you guys, like if you're

1468
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 1: interested in this business, you know, and then have you

1469
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 1: made like millions of dollars doing this business or like, oh.

1470
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 2: Well the business had made millions of dollars, but you

1471
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 2: don't get to see it because you're paying all the

1472
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 2: money in taxis and the staff and all the overhead.

1473
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 2: So no, I never for six years, I never made

1474
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 2: a profit. But also keep in mind I was being

1475
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 2: stolen from so once I took over control September of

1476
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 2: twenty three till March or twenty four when I closed,

1477
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 2: I got to see actual, real numbers. Blunsymore could have

1478
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 2: made money if we weren't being stolen from. I could

1479
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 2: have made money, but I was being stolen from. It

1480
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 2: was no way to get out from under it. They

1481
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 2: were stealing money and then not paying the vendors. That's

1482
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 2: a double whammy. So it's no way to come up

1483
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 2: from under that. But it's definitely you can make money.

1484
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 2: But the way to make the money in the legal

1485
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 2: space is doing everything but selling weed. You got to

1486
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 2: do everything else. You got to use that money from

1487
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 2: the merch, from the parties, from whatever it is that

1488
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 2: you do to make money. You need to I tell

1489
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 2: people all the time, what can I do in the

1490
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 2: weed space? Whatever you do in your normal nine to five,

1491
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 2: whatever you do in your everyday space, bring that to weed.

1492
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 2: There's a need for it. But everyone is just focused

1493
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 2: on selling the weed. No one is focused on like

1494
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:51,440
Speaker 2: how you just said a lighter. Them ltders you can

1495
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 2: get I don't know, I think it's like three hundred

1496
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:55,520
Speaker 2: and fifty of them. You can just sell those and

1497
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 2: make money just off lighters. You can make trades, you

1498
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:02,080
Speaker 2: can make as trays, what ever, whatever you can use

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Speaker 2: that money to help facilitate And what.

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Speaker 1: About the vendors that are trying to get into the stores.

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Speaker 1: Like if say there's a pipe vendor or an ashtray vendor, Like,

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Speaker 1: how hard is it to get into these stores? Do

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Speaker 1: they just go into the store.

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Speaker 2: They need to go to the store, hollow the store

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01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 2: stores need that type of stuff. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: You just got to you gotta so they need us

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Speaker 1: and we just got to go. That's awesome.

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Speaker 2: I just choose to do my own stuff branded because

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01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:27,840
Speaker 2: it's a brand recognition, you know what I'm saying. But

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Speaker 2: if you have a perfect example, Neo's Moms makes our

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01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 2: ass trays, I could have went and bought my own

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01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 2: blunts and more ass trays. She's making some, all right,

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01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 2: let me get them from you and put blunts some

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Speaker 2: more on them. So now I'm supporting a whole nother

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Speaker 2: business that's a black owned business that's putting stuff in

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Speaker 2: my black owned business, and I'm selling to my people

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Speaker 2: easy peasy, like it just just I don't know, it

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Speaker 2: just seems natural and it's easy to do. And she's

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Speaker 2: not touching the plant, so she don't have to worry

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Speaker 2: about the taxation. Wow, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: So do you hear it here? First, guys, can you

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Speaker 1: spell it out for everyone, all our listeners on how

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Speaker 1: to keep up with you, how to reach out with

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Speaker 1: reach out to you, Cameron, the center is all yours.

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Speaker 2: I am Tucky Blunt on everything. T U c K

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Speaker 2: Y B l U n T. Just be respectful when

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01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:16,599
Speaker 2: you reach out. I'm super, super transparent and I'm Tucky

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Speaker 2: Bunt everywhere. Cybar. I appreciate you and what you're doing

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Speaker 2: for entrepreneurs. Because you wanted a rare podcasts where you'll

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Speaker 2: see stars, but you'll see a meet You know what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying. You don't really get that a lot. So

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you and what you're doing for people like me.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, well, it's all love. It's an honor to

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Speaker 1: have you. And like I said, my favorite guest, my

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Speaker 1: team knows, it's always gonna be a entrepreneur, always right

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Speaker 1: or died for y'all. Spam y'all, and I love the

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Speaker 1: spam Sam. I'm just genuinely curious. I'm hoping that is.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what's in spam. I just hope it's

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Speaker 1: not red meat.

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Speaker 2: I think it's special parts and oh my.

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Speaker 1: God, sick assitation. Thank you guys for tuning in to

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Speaker 1: another episode of Eating While Broke. He's out