WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Replacing Tank; Stopping Bosa?

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<v Speaker 1>heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeoman's let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>Rob Phillips, I'm Kyle Yeoman's. Everybody's in a good mood

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<v Speaker 1>this morning. I love this. Hey. Yeah, even though we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get the excellence this morning all over the place,

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<v Speaker 1>not not didn't get it out before. See, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the first time we've we've said that on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm happy. Usually that's a pre show discussion. We

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<v Speaker 1>just shouldn't hear it. Yeah, just getting a sample. No,

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<v Speaker 1>that's good. Yeah, so many things in the breaking, so

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<v Speaker 1>many things in the break we don't say that. Thank God,

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<v Speaker 1>pulling back to Curtin a little bit, don't like saying, well,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is that's the fun thing about this show

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<v Speaker 1>is I feel like we all get along like legitimately,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is not just for show, like, we all

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<v Speaker 1>get along outside of the show, which is a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of fun. Do we really unlike the other shows what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. I mean, there might be some animosity in

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<v Speaker 1>some places, but not really. I think every show gets

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<v Speaker 1>along pretty well, but not as well as we do.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with you. Yeah, So we have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of fun in here, and we have some traditions before

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<v Speaker 1>the show that we end up going going through every week,

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<v Speaker 1>and we forgot to do it today, so heck, but

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<v Speaker 1>did it on air? Wait to go? Keeps looking out.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a mighty fine pool over you have deck Massy

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<v Speaker 1>your watch today? Oh another one? It's a different one,

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<v Speaker 1>a different one four days in a row. But check

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<v Speaker 1>it out. What is ESPN paying you? Wow? Listen, here's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing pro Shop, pro Shop, Big fellows. You want

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<v Speaker 1>to know how to staying fit? I'm telling you, let's

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<v Speaker 1>game ready. Are you getting pro Shop modeling deals too?

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<v Speaker 1>So let's not kick the cans too far down the road.

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<v Speaker 1>With Nickma's fantastic looks um the pole. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to hear the poll right freaking free, because I want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about a problem the Cowboys nation is having. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're all in a great mood this morning, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't need to brag it drag it down any but

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys have lost to Marcus Lawrence for an extended

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<v Speaker 1>period of time. He suffered a broken foot in yesterday's practice,

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<v Speaker 1>and the edge rusher, former pro bowler, top end edge

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<v Speaker 1>rusher in the NFL, is now sidelined. Rob What it was,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the developments on this, and what does the

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<v Speaker 1>timeline look like at the moment. The report, I think

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<v Speaker 1>from Ian Rapp report was it's the fifth metatarslank you

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<v Speaker 1>heck reminded me of that before the show, if that's correct.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's the exact same thing as

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fourteen, but it is a similar type of injury

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<v Speaker 1>from my understanding from his rookie year, right, Yes, And

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<v Speaker 1>so when that happened, it was like July twenty ninth

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty fourteen. He debuted on like November second, so

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<v Speaker 1>that was like twelve weeks. And I'm not saying it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be that long, and if you know, there

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<v Speaker 1>was also a report that it will need surgery, if

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<v Speaker 1>surgery can speed up that process, actually if you put

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<v Speaker 1>a screw in there or whatever they do, So I

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<v Speaker 1>would say at least six to eight is probably a

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<v Speaker 1>fair assessment. They're gonna put him on IR and you're

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<v Speaker 1>probably not going to see him for a couple of months,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll see what they do. They're probably gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to roll with the guys they've got. Maybe they look

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<v Speaker 1>at it adding some help. I don't know how, you

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<v Speaker 1>know who you could find at this point in the

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<v Speaker 1>Sea season. But this sucks. Yeah, it's not fun. It's

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<v Speaker 1>another starter that that currently is dealing with injuries at

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<v Speaker 1>the moment. We'll get into some of the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>that here in a minute, But just how big of

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<v Speaker 1>a loss is this, Isaiah? I mean, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if it could be understated, especially whenever we spent yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the Cowboys defense going up against the Chargers

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<v Speaker 1>offense and what was one of the number one things

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<v Speaker 1>that the Cowboys defense needed to get done, get pressure,

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<v Speaker 1>and now this is a huge wrench in that one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this sucks. I mean, there's no, I mean we've had

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<v Speaker 1>a span of bad luck here over these first two weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like our first game was forever ago, and

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<v Speaker 1>we started off the year with a little adversity. Whether

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<v Speaker 1>you obviously have Martin down and now we've you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we've lost Collins, and then we lost Gregory potentially, and

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<v Speaker 1>now we lost our other defense at end d law. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not good. And I can tell you guys, this

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<v Speaker 1>fifth metatarso thing sucks. This outside of your outside of

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<v Speaker 1>your foot. Um, this is on the literally literally the

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<v Speaker 1>outside of your foot. Now, we don't know how bad

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<v Speaker 1>it is, We don't know what they're going to require.

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<v Speaker 1>Ropes obviously reported that it might require surgery. That means

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<v Speaker 1>that you have to put a pin in it or

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<v Speaker 1>screw in it, which means that you're then gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to allow that bone to then form around it and

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<v Speaker 1>heal around it. Now you're talking most likely, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to speculate, but you're probably looking at six week

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<v Speaker 1>times period. I've had foot surgery. I came into the

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<v Speaker 1>to the Cowboys with a major foot injury called a

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<v Speaker 1>total list Frank that took me out nine to twelve months. However,

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<v Speaker 1>feet suck because you have to play on them every

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<v Speaker 1>single play, and as a defensive end, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>push against three hundred pound men every single play. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>as a defensive end, you have to put all two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and seventy pounds of you right two sixties around

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<v Speaker 1>there and push and be able to change directions in

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<v Speaker 1>an explosive manner, which is not conducive to having injured

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<v Speaker 1>foot as well. So not only does that foot have

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<v Speaker 1>to heal, but that foot has to heal and be

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<v Speaker 1>able to bear the weight and force that you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be applying to it and against it. Um. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not a good scenario. Um, it's not what you want

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<v Speaker 1>to hear. Um, it sucks, Dan, I mean, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you say after that? It does? And there's no other

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<v Speaker 1>way to describe it. Um. But you know when when

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<v Speaker 1>it was announced that he broke it, and I'm telling you,

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<v Speaker 1>I am I'm taking Rob p off of my notifications

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<v Speaker 1>because it's only when I get a notification from Rob

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<v Speaker 1>I cringe. No text messages are good. Texas is fun, No,

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<v Speaker 1>it is. But when I get that to it that,

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<v Speaker 1>when I get that notification from Rob, it seems to

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<v Speaker 1>be just riddled with bad news and this was this

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<v Speaker 1>was one and you know, I think for the Cowboys, man,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to that next man up, next man up thing,

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<v Speaker 1>just throw it out the window right now. Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think getting there, you know, yeah, yeah, you guys

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<v Speaker 1>are not about to jump me to that and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going with that. And what I'm saying to you

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<v Speaker 1>is we got to throw that out and we really

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<v Speaker 1>got to be in on all hands on deck philosophy

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<v Speaker 1>right now as far as the defensive ends are concerned,

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<v Speaker 1>because we did talk about that at length yesterday about

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<v Speaker 1>him winning his one on one battle and also creating

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<v Speaker 1>that pressure. The other thing about it is, anytime you

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<v Speaker 1>lose a guy that of tank status, you always think about, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>who is the guy not to replace him, but who

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<v Speaker 1>is the guy that we have that can play up

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<v Speaker 1>to the standard that he's set here and we brought

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<v Speaker 1>into real bashing. We've had Bradley and I. These are

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<v Speaker 1>guys that have to to step up. Darren's Armstrong is

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<v Speaker 1>another name that's gonna have to be you know, he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to be lights out. And also the rookie

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<v Speaker 1>that hasn't taken any staffs, Chauncey Gholston is also going

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<v Speaker 1>to have to come in and make an immediate impact.

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<v Speaker 1>And the one thing that I like about Ghoston and

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<v Speaker 1>just as a side note, is just his flexibility and

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<v Speaker 1>being able to kick inside and do some other things. So, look,

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<v Speaker 1>the defense is shorthanded and if Randy Gregory can't go,

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<v Speaker 1>then that just adds insult to injury basically, U literally

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<v Speaker 1>and in a way you have to you know, look

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<v Speaker 1>at Will McClay and say, and Stephen Jones and say, look,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys have had a lot of drafts to bring

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<v Speaker 1>in guys and whether it be your your your thing

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<v Speaker 1>that you believe in drafting based off of need or

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<v Speaker 1>best best player available, this is the point in time

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<v Speaker 1>in the season where you want to see those things

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<v Speaker 1>start to pay off with your talent the guys behind him,

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<v Speaker 1>I want, I mean, does this change the trajectory of

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<v Speaker 1>this defense this season? That that's my question. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I still think they can be better than last year

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<v Speaker 1>and still productive defense, but we're talking about their best

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<v Speaker 1>player and a guy that you know, the sacks haven't

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<v Speaker 1>been there the last couple of years, but he pushes

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<v Speaker 1>the pocket, he's really good against the run. That's that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's an area besides the pass rush that they've got

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out is setting the edge on that left side.

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<v Speaker 1>And Terrell Basham they signed him in the off season

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<v Speaker 1>and that's something he's done pretty well in his career.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is this is a huge loss man. It's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to maybe change the way they play, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Is Micah Parson's gonna have to take on maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit different role than he than he was planned too,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, more less off the ball, more of a

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<v Speaker 1>pass rusher. I'm curious to see what they do. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe Duran's Armstrong can step in and and

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<v Speaker 1>bash them and they can be they can be productive.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Armstrong had a good camp um, but for

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<v Speaker 1>this game in particular, you're probably missing your top two

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<v Speaker 1>pass rushers. I'd be surprised if Gregory returns in time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm probably in his little canoe or kayak by myself.

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<v Speaker 1>When I when I when I stand by behind the

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<v Speaker 1>statement and say, I don't think we're going to miss

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<v Speaker 1>d Law's pass rushing ability. I don't want to make

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<v Speaker 1>it might probably I'll probably boy myself on that one.

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<v Speaker 1>And I understand that I'm a lone ranger. I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>lone wolf. You know what I mean. I'm a lone wolf.

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<v Speaker 1>Have the tattoo on my back shoulder. U. D Law,

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<v Speaker 1>as you mentioned, the last two years, has not been

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<v Speaker 1>that productive sax wise. That does not mean that he

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<v Speaker 1>has not been productive in terms of pressure. Sure, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so it hasn't showed up in a stat sheet. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that impact that he has on the actual field

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<v Speaker 1>more so it comes in the form of leadership and hustle.

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<v Speaker 1>That too, unnult, you're just unwavering, just effort. That kind

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<v Speaker 1>of sets the tone absolutely. So that's where I believe

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<v Speaker 1>that we will miss him more than what most people

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<v Speaker 1>tend to go to when they think of d Law

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<v Speaker 1>and they start talking about sex, because he's a defensive

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<v Speaker 1>end and what a defensive ends supposed to do. They're

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to get sacks and apply pressure. I think his

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<v Speaker 1>effort that he exudes I think that that can be duplicated.

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<v Speaker 1>I do believe that can be duplicated. Now, how much

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<v Speaker 1>pressure can we get that's the question. I don't believe

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<v Speaker 1>that we were going to get to Justin Herbert and

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<v Speaker 1>sack him a bunch of this game. If they ran

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<v Speaker 1>the same game plan that they ran last week get

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<v Speaker 1>against Washington. We weren't getting into backfield anyway, okay, because

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<v Speaker 1>those guys are getting the ball off so quick and

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<v Speaker 1>they have a dog at tackle, so our guys were

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<v Speaker 1>going to have a problem anyway. So I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that we were going to miss that aspect. But to

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<v Speaker 1>your point, his run defense really good, right. The fact

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<v Speaker 1>that he can go up the field and actually reverse reverse,

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<v Speaker 1>reverse field, get back up field in punch the ball out,

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<v Speaker 1>those are the plays that we're going to miss, not

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<v Speaker 1>him going around and trying to get a sack on Herbert.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just my thoughts. Now, that makes sense. I see

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<v Speaker 1>what you're saying there. It's most of the it's the

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<v Speaker 1>complete picture of the Marcus Lawrence that you're gonna miss,

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<v Speaker 1>more so than the specifics actually having the number of sacks,

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<v Speaker 1>which is kind of what we've seen with his career

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<v Speaker 1>the last couple of years. Now. One thing that we

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<v Speaker 1>will definitely miss is the fact that his just presence

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<v Speaker 1>brings depth immediately, because instead of talking about Terrell Basham

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<v Speaker 1>and Dorn's Armstrong as your go to edge rushers, you're saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>these are rotational guys that are gonna be fresh. Those

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<v Speaker 1>legs are gonna be right there, and they're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>right up on it to be able to continue that

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<v Speaker 1>pressure at a more constant pace. Now, whenever it's not

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<v Speaker 1>Terrell Basham out there, who's your fresh legs, it's Bradley

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<v Speaker 1>and I and Azurkamara, which is a much deeper drop

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<v Speaker 1>off than what you would have it was DeMarcus Lawrence. Unfortunately,

0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:56.640
<v Speaker 1>Terrell Basham, by the way, last year four sacks, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>one hurries, thirty two total pressures in seven hundred and

0:11:59.840 --> 0:12:03.320
<v Speaker 1>thirty four snaps against or as a part of the

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<v Speaker 1>New York Chests. And he's an energy guy, like that's

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<v Speaker 1>what he talked about at camp, and so I think

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<v Speaker 1>that that was that's a good signing. You think that

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<v Speaker 1>can step in and help. And he's bigger than yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>six foot four, two sixty six. Now what I love.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean what you just said, Isaiah's just basically keeping

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<v Speaker 1>it real as far as the production numbers. And then

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<v Speaker 1>when you lose a guy of his caliber, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>you look at is the production numbers. But again, you

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<v Speaker 1>understand that teams have scheme to take him out and

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<v Speaker 1>his ability to still be solid in run defense, and

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<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of guys in the NFL that

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<v Speaker 1>don't care. I mean, they want to go for protect

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<v Speaker 1>just the numbers, and d Law isn't that guy, and

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<v Speaker 1>so we have character and also you talk about what

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<v Speaker 1>he means to this team off the field, so that's

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<v Speaker 1>important as well. But that calls to the production that

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<v Speaker 1>we hadn't been getting on the other side. Also, because

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<v Speaker 1>if LA teams are scheming for d Law, then that

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<v Speaker 1>means that's a guy on the other side that's not

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<v Speaker 1>beating his his guy. Yeah, and that's that's sucks too,

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<v Speaker 1>because we didn't really see as much of that tandem

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<v Speaker 1>with Gregory and Tank because of kind of the humidity.

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<v Speaker 1>They just they rotated a lot of guys in and out,

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<v Speaker 1>and now we're not going to see it for several weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I just throw a statat you real quick? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>You can. You made me sad already from Todd Archer yep.

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<v Speaker 1>According to ESPN Stats and Info, Tank is one of

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<v Speaker 1>four players in the last four years to generate at

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<v Speaker 1>least two hundred first pressures. Yeah, pressures Aaron Donald, Cameron,

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan Khalil Mack good, disgracious, that's his company. That's the list.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think. I just think there's stuff he does

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<v Speaker 1>that you don't see. Yeah, it didn't run. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>that's what that's what I want fans to understand. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So when we're having these conversations, everything doesn't show up

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<v Speaker 1>in the stat sheet, right, dan Quinn was talking about

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<v Speaker 1>that the other day. Everything does not show up in

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<v Speaker 1>a stat sheet, I know, especially defensively, especially defensive. We're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about d law right now. But look at Zeke.

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<v Speaker 1>People want to look at Zeke last week and run

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<v Speaker 1>him into the ground, right, Well, he should have. He

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<v Speaker 1>should have made that guy miss you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>He blocks that Zeke kept off a dog on deck

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<v Speaker 1>last week? Really, you know what I mean? How great

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<v Speaker 1>of a job he did blocking. How many running backs

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<v Speaker 1>really want to stick their head in there and block

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<v Speaker 1>and be team players? So people look at the stats

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<v Speaker 1>and think that that's the whole picture. There are plenty

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<v Speaker 1>of guys in his league that have been around for

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<v Speaker 1>a very long time, right, one of my boys in

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<v Speaker 1>New England, Matthew Slater, Right, how many does he really

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<v Speaker 1>show up in a stat sheet? Know the things that

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<v Speaker 1>he does, He forces punts, he forces his fair catches,

0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:22.360
<v Speaker 1>the right he forces, you know, obviously just fair. You know,

0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:24.120
<v Speaker 1>fair catches he forces, the guys are taking knee in

0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:26.000
<v Speaker 1>the end zone. Those are things that don't show up.

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<v Speaker 1>But guess what, he's a huge part of that team

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<v Speaker 1>and he has a huge impact every single year. So

0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:33.200
<v Speaker 1>everything doesn't show up in the stats. But d law

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<v Speaker 1>in the presence that he has on this team is

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<v Speaker 1>so much greater than what he showed with him well

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<v Speaker 1>shows him on a stat shee and everybody wants to

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<v Speaker 1>look at all his production in relation to his salary.

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<v Speaker 1>It's that's not the complete picture. Before we go to

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<v Speaker 1>break the list of Cowboys starters dealing or have dealt

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<v Speaker 1>with injuries or absences before Week two, Neville Gallimore in

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<v Speaker 1>the preseason, Zach Martin, who luckily has returned after missing

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<v Speaker 1>Week one, Michael Gallup, Lyle Collins, Tomorrow, Macus Lawrence, Frandy

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<v Speaker 1>Gregory currently questionable for this week, and then Donovan Wilson

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<v Speaker 1>who is also currently questionable for this week and did

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<v Speaker 1>not participate yesterday. So don't forget a coach too, Oh

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<v Speaker 1>Leon let me on last day in practice. Its crazy

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<v Speaker 1>like and it got rolled up on him bad. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like it sounds like maybe like a quad thing like oh,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like a um lacoy kind of like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But actually, yeah, that's not good. Well that's what It's

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<v Speaker 1>just a leon let overall. But I do want to

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<v Speaker 1>I do want to ask, what is this the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>loss so far for the Cowboys to Marcus Lawrence? Is

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<v Speaker 1>this number one on that list? I don't know which one.

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<v Speaker 1>Would it was still Lyle Collins. We talked about probably

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<v Speaker 1>still Collins, I think for this matchup, I might say Lyle,

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<v Speaker 1>but over over the course of two months the extended time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're talking about losing your best defensive player for

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<v Speaker 1>two months or so. I had that That is that's tough. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just looking at the matchup that you know, Lyle would

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<v Speaker 1>have had this week that now is vaulted into the

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<v Speaker 1>hands of Terrence Steele. Yeah, I mean it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be impact. What's going to change our whole scheme? So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Leo Collins with that question, Yeah, I was gonna let

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<v Speaker 1>me go ahead and take it to a Shrake because

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<v Speaker 1>He's jacked up, yeah, and his goal is to draw

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<v Speaker 1>you off side and every time does it all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>so he's very good at doing it. He's too at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the table or dream brother to drawing

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<v Speaker 1>me off side today. It gets me every time. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys offense versus Chargers defense is our go to matchup

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<v Speaker 1>today and of course we gotta circle the one off

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<v Speaker 1>the right side, no Lyle Collins sing it, Terrence Steele

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<v Speaker 1>and or ty In Zeki, because yesterday it looked like

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<v Speaker 1>they were non committal with Mike McCarthy talking about and

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen Jones talking about that it's not necessarily done yet.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not chocked up to be steel. It's not just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a smoke screen to say, hey, we threw

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry saying on Tuesday. I mean the steel was it

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<v Speaker 1>Monday or Tuesday? Tuesday morning. They're gonna give him lots

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<v Speaker 1>of help too. I mean he said he sat game plan. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>gave it up, didn't he. Maybe maybe Jerry's trying to

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<v Speaker 1>throw them off sides, you know, and then it may

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<v Speaker 1>trot out seventy nine and you know that, Yeah, secret,

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<v Speaker 1>those guys, players of his stature are used to getting

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<v Speaker 1>schem dumb agains right, but yet those guys still find

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<v Speaker 1>a way to make plays. They're used to getting double team.

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<v Speaker 1>Donald's used to getting double team. Boss is used to

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<v Speaker 1>getting chipped on saying doesn't matter, it doesn't matter, it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>You do your best, and you make sure that you're

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<v Speaker 1>effective ninety percent of the time, and then you have

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<v Speaker 1>a great chance of winning. Can the Cowboys be successful

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<v Speaker 1>the time? Beat the crap out of him? Okay, well

0:21:05.359 --> 0:21:07.800
<v Speaker 1>they're playing football. I feel like that's an easier thing

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<v Speaker 1>to say. Absolutely, it's easier to easier to say than done.

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<v Speaker 1>But guess what, hey, you see that man over there,

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<v Speaker 1>that all pro and treasure right there, who potentially be

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<v Speaker 1>the best defensive play Guess what Terence still or in

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<v Speaker 1>a second, those guys that have help on their what

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<v Speaker 1>what side? Right? Inside? Right? They have help on the inside. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So where do you want to force Bosa inside? Inside?

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<v Speaker 1>You have helpt you have help, right. And also you

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<v Speaker 1>have a running back who is willing to make some contact, right.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have a little soft fee back that he's

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<v Speaker 1>willing to go and run through half of Bosa's body. Right. So,

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<v Speaker 1>watching last week's game, Bosa did a heck of a

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<v Speaker 1>job of rushing upfield, putting a lot of stress on

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<v Speaker 1>the tackle. Sometimes he got there, sometimes he didn't. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>And when those guys started trying to overset him, what

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<v Speaker 1>did he do? He spent back on the inside And

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<v Speaker 1>what were those guys there to do? Gibson was there

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<v Speaker 1>to bust him in his dog on mouth right, So

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<v Speaker 1>you have to be ready to be physical with this

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<v Speaker 1>dude and know that he has a motor. He's like

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<v Speaker 1>the new Age better at Clay Matthews. He just doesn't stop.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like the energizer Bunny. He's just gonna keep coming.

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<v Speaker 1>You get him in his mouth, he's gonna get back

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<v Speaker 1>up right, and just know that that's what you're dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with all game and take the right approach, but know

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<v Speaker 1>that you have to outphysical him because you're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to out effort him. Yeah, and adding details to that, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel as though bubble screens in a situation

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<v Speaker 1>like this on his side, and also running right at him,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, run at him, make him work for it,

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<v Speaker 1>like you're talking about, because both is one of those

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<v Speaker 1>guys on the slow developing run play. He'll get up

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<v Speaker 1>the field, but he'll come right back down. He has

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<v Speaker 1>that same attribute that Tank has as well, so we

0:22:34.400 --> 0:22:36.800
<v Speaker 1>have to watch out for that in his motor. Terrence

0:22:36.840 --> 0:22:39.920
<v Speaker 1>still scares me out there on an island because you

0:22:40.000 --> 0:22:43.200
<v Speaker 1>can't relegate your entire offense to help him the entire game,

0:22:43.480 --> 0:22:47.240
<v Speaker 1>so he's gonna have to win some individual matchups. The

0:22:47.359 --> 0:22:50.920
<v Speaker 1>wide nine worries me also because still had problems with

0:22:51.000 --> 0:22:54.200
<v Speaker 1>the wide nine with Garrett, you know it against Cleveland,

0:22:54.440 --> 0:22:56.760
<v Speaker 1>and so it's it's just one of those things for

0:22:56.840 --> 0:22:59.240
<v Speaker 1>a young guy that we're developing. He's man, he's got

0:22:59.320 --> 0:23:01.760
<v Speaker 1>to win that match up, and especially if this coaching

0:23:01.840 --> 0:23:03.800
<v Speaker 1>staff has that kind of confidence in him, he's got

0:23:03.880 --> 0:23:05.800
<v Speaker 1>to reward him in his play. Dude's got a first

0:23:05.840 --> 0:23:08.560
<v Speaker 1>step like DeMarcus Ware. He really does where you know

0:23:08.680 --> 0:23:11.000
<v Speaker 1>it's so it's so fast you almost think it's a penalty.

0:23:11.040 --> 0:23:13.959
<v Speaker 1>You almost think he's encroaching, and you know you're right.

0:23:14.119 --> 0:23:18.679
<v Speaker 1>Like the Washington didn't ship every time. I mean, they

0:23:19.040 --> 0:23:20.760
<v Speaker 1>there are snaps where you've just got to let them

0:23:20.800 --> 0:23:24.080
<v Speaker 1>try to handle it. And you you mentioned the wide

0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:27.679
<v Speaker 1>nine the run game. I still think watching watching their

0:23:27.960 --> 0:23:31.200
<v Speaker 1>their defense, there's gonna be some opportunities just because there's

0:23:31.200 --> 0:23:33.600
<v Speaker 1>some gaps in their life. Now maybe they shore that up,

0:23:33.640 --> 0:23:36.359
<v Speaker 1>but there's some gaps. And especially sometimes they'll blitz and

0:23:36.480 --> 0:23:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Washington would catch him in a draw, hand it off

0:23:38.840 --> 0:23:41.880
<v Speaker 1>and and yeah, and try to throw him off that way.

0:23:42.200 --> 0:23:44.200
<v Speaker 1>You would hope they get Zeke more involved in this game,

0:23:44.280 --> 0:23:47.400
<v Speaker 1>but he might be busy in pass protection. Again, it's

0:23:47.480 --> 0:23:50.280
<v Speaker 1>It's possible, you know he was. He was asked yesterday, like,

0:23:50.320 --> 0:23:51.840
<v Speaker 1>so you feel fresh because you didn't get a lot

0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:53.359
<v Speaker 1>of get a lot of touches in week one. He's like,

0:23:53.400 --> 0:23:56.160
<v Speaker 1>did I was out there quite a bit, like taking

0:23:56.240 --> 0:23:58.520
<v Speaker 1>on taking on the best D line in the league.

0:23:58.960 --> 0:24:01.560
<v Speaker 1>He probably felt like he was less fresh after that

0:24:01.680 --> 0:24:04.360
<v Speaker 1>game than if you would have run for twenty five carries. Yeah,

0:24:04.680 --> 0:24:06.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm so again. I probably on this kay at a

0:24:06.680 --> 0:24:09.120
<v Speaker 1>little boat. By myself, I'm definitely worried about Bosa. I'm

0:24:09.200 --> 0:24:13.080
<v Speaker 1>not asked concerned with Bosa taking over this game as

0:24:13.160 --> 0:24:17.400
<v Speaker 1>I am concerned with Bosa and his boy, Kenneth Murray.

0:24:18.080 --> 0:24:20.760
<v Speaker 1>That combination. That combination scares a crap out of me.

0:24:21.240 --> 0:24:24.040
<v Speaker 1>Bosa by himself, we can scheme a defensive end, right,

0:24:24.240 --> 0:24:26.200
<v Speaker 1>one person on the edge is not going to just

0:24:26.400 --> 0:24:29.160
<v Speaker 1>destroy this game. He may get a sack, Right, most

0:24:29.200 --> 0:24:30.600
<v Speaker 1>of the time, we should be half him in check,

0:24:30.640 --> 0:24:33.040
<v Speaker 1>based upon chips, based upon our tight end sets, or

0:24:33.080 --> 0:24:34.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, all the different formations that we have cracked

0:24:34.920 --> 0:24:37.480
<v Speaker 1>backing on. We should we can throw off a defensive end. Now,

0:24:37.560 --> 0:24:41.240
<v Speaker 1>when they start running stunts with him and he crosses across,

0:24:41.359 --> 0:24:43.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, Zach Martin's facing and you bring me Matthews

0:24:43.560 --> 0:24:46.880
<v Speaker 1>on the outside and now he's going against Steel. He yeah,

0:24:47.240 --> 0:24:49.800
<v Speaker 1>that's when I have That's when I worry. Yeah, in

0:24:50.080 --> 0:24:53.320
<v Speaker 1>the running game and even looking at saying it stop

0:24:53.359 --> 0:24:56.639
<v Speaker 1>myself to Chargers, Uh, you know that I think that

0:24:56.760 --> 0:24:59.159
<v Speaker 1>we have some opportunity in the running game with what

0:24:59.400 --> 0:25:01.560
<v Speaker 1>Rob just pick. Backing off of what you said, especially

0:25:01.600 --> 0:25:05.440
<v Speaker 1>with their wide spit splits. Ronaldo Hill, their defensive coordinator

0:25:05.520 --> 0:25:08.080
<v Speaker 1>tenuere Vet in the league. Man is just a great

0:25:08.160 --> 0:25:12.920
<v Speaker 1>cornerback and I feel like he's bringing fresh energy to

0:25:13.119 --> 0:25:16.080
<v Speaker 1>this defense and just allowing his guys up front to

0:25:16.280 --> 0:25:19.480
<v Speaker 1>be who they are. Lyndelle Joseph, Let's look at this

0:25:19.640 --> 0:25:23.520
<v Speaker 1>matchup because he's a dog, yeah, and he's a guy,

0:25:23.760 --> 0:25:26.280
<v Speaker 1>and especially with the matchup that we had last week

0:25:26.359 --> 0:25:30.200
<v Speaker 1>with be honest, he sometimes had He's susceptible to the bullrush.

0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:32.680
<v Speaker 1>He may get set in the lap of Dak. Sodak

0:25:32.840 --> 0:25:36.000
<v Speaker 1>is gonna have to be cognizant obviously of all the

0:25:36.040 --> 0:25:38.040
<v Speaker 1>pressure that's coming this way. He would be anyway, but

0:25:38.240 --> 0:25:40.960
<v Speaker 1>especially now with tern Steel and all the pressure, because

0:25:41.000 --> 0:25:43.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, if they get any type of push up front,

0:25:43.400 --> 0:25:46.800
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna draw him out and make him easier to

0:25:46.920 --> 0:25:50.280
<v Speaker 1>get Tom from the outside. I agree completely, and that

0:25:50.480 --> 0:25:55.600
<v Speaker 1>that interior rush against Washington was was decent. It wasn't overpairing,

0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:58.840
<v Speaker 1>which is positive news I think for for Cowboys fans

0:25:58.880 --> 0:26:02.480
<v Speaker 1>looking into it. Some of that is Bosa creating that

0:26:02.760 --> 0:26:05.120
<v Speaker 1>by collapsing the pocket and then you see Justin Jones

0:26:05.200 --> 0:26:07.080
<v Speaker 1>being able to get home a little bit. So it

0:26:07.480 --> 0:26:09.760
<v Speaker 1>kind of all starts with Bosa. But real quick, I

0:26:09.800 --> 0:26:11.520
<v Speaker 1>mean they're they're kind of banged up on their injury

0:26:11.560 --> 0:26:14.840
<v Speaker 1>report at least for Wednesday. I mean, we'll see Derwin

0:26:14.960 --> 0:26:19.040
<v Speaker 1>James did not practice Chris Harris in the secondary natterly

0:26:19.200 --> 0:26:22.560
<v Speaker 1>their safety. So we talked about that. Yeah, see how

0:26:22.600 --> 0:26:25.080
<v Speaker 1>the week progresses. But I mean, Derwin James missed a

0:26:25.119 --> 0:26:28.720
<v Speaker 1>lot of time. That's Darren Woodson's pick, right, Yeah, yeah,

0:26:28.720 --> 0:26:30.800
<v Speaker 1>that was. It gave me chills. It really gave me

0:26:30.920 --> 0:26:33.240
<v Speaker 1>chills when and when Woody said that, because I think

0:26:33.320 --> 0:26:37.160
<v Speaker 1>as as far as the comparison between him and this guy,

0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:39.679
<v Speaker 1>I just think that, you know, he is so smart,

0:26:39.760 --> 0:26:41.800
<v Speaker 1>and he's so good in space, all the things that

0:26:41.880 --> 0:26:44.040
<v Speaker 1>Woody was, and so when you watch him on take thirty,

0:26:44.119 --> 0:26:47.000
<v Speaker 1>it just screams like whole much, jumps off like this guy.

0:26:47.080 --> 0:26:49.760
<v Speaker 1>Look how fast he's moving, and just his ability to

0:26:49.760 --> 0:26:51.520
<v Speaker 1>attack to the line of scrimmage and also what he

0:26:51.600 --> 0:26:54.760
<v Speaker 1>does in pass coverage, so he's in on every tackle. Versatility,

0:26:54.840 --> 0:26:56.919
<v Speaker 1>He's always around, always around the ball. I don't care

0:26:56.920 --> 0:26:58.800
<v Speaker 1>if the balls already the guy's already been tackled. He's

0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:01.240
<v Speaker 1>flying in there. He'll take his long. He's getting his

0:27:01.359 --> 0:27:03.800
<v Speaker 1>number on screen, it's on film now. We had a

0:27:03.880 --> 0:27:07.160
<v Speaker 1>question throughout the week from Big Jay and he said

0:27:07.240 --> 0:27:09.800
<v Speaker 1>a question for the show. With Washington rushing for over

0:27:09.840 --> 0:27:12.000
<v Speaker 1>one hundred yards last week, do you think that's the

0:27:12.160 --> 0:27:15.120
<v Speaker 1>key to this game for the Cowboys. Maybe they trust

0:27:15.160 --> 0:27:18.359
<v Speaker 1>steal a tackle because they're going to focus on establishing

0:27:18.480 --> 0:27:22.080
<v Speaker 1>the run more, especially knowing that we obviously can't throw

0:27:22.760 --> 0:27:26.440
<v Speaker 1>at any given moment with the pressure coming off the edge.

0:27:26.480 --> 0:27:28.440
<v Speaker 1>So that's my question to you guys, is do you

0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:31.800
<v Speaker 1>see an added emphasis And sure, I'm sure, I'm sure

0:27:31.840 --> 0:27:33.600
<v Speaker 1>the carriers are going to go up from last week.

0:27:33.760 --> 0:27:35.720
<v Speaker 1>We're not going to see eleven carries for Zeke again,

0:27:36.000 --> 0:27:37.639
<v Speaker 1>but are you going to see an added emphasis and

0:27:37.760 --> 0:27:40.760
<v Speaker 1>trying to establish that run early? I Hope. So, I

0:27:40.800 --> 0:27:42.600
<v Speaker 1>mean we should as the Dallas Cowboys, we should we

0:27:42.640 --> 0:27:45.560
<v Speaker 1>should be running over one hundred yards every game, not

0:27:45.720 --> 0:27:48.440
<v Speaker 1>even a question. But those two guys with our just

0:27:48.560 --> 0:27:51.040
<v Speaker 1>our whole offense in general, I mean, there's no reason

0:27:51.080 --> 0:27:52.639
<v Speaker 1>why we shouldn't. If if we don't run for one

0:27:52.680 --> 0:27:54.520
<v Speaker 1>hundred yard, if Zeke doesn't get close to one hundred

0:27:54.560 --> 0:27:57.680
<v Speaker 1>yards or over one hundred yards, then Kelly Moore, you

0:27:57.760 --> 0:27:59.520
<v Speaker 1>need to go look in the mirror because there's ways

0:27:59.560 --> 0:28:00.920
<v Speaker 1>that you can get him the ball. Now, whether that's

0:28:00.960 --> 0:28:03.040
<v Speaker 1>on the ground, whether that's receiving, he should be over

0:28:03.040 --> 0:28:05.199
<v Speaker 1>one hundred yards easy every game. I don't care who

0:28:05.280 --> 0:28:07.800
<v Speaker 1>you're playing, just based off of your ability to scheme

0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:11.320
<v Speaker 1>with all the personnel that we have against these guys. Absolutely,

0:28:11.359 --> 0:28:15.120
<v Speaker 1>we have to control the game. We have to because offensively,

0:28:15.800 --> 0:28:18.879
<v Speaker 1>the Chargers are going to control the clock. That's what

0:28:19.040 --> 0:28:21.920
<v Speaker 1>they do. As many big you know, we talked about it, Kyle,

0:28:22.040 --> 0:28:23.800
<v Speaker 1>you and I, as many deep threats as they have,

0:28:24.359 --> 0:28:26.879
<v Speaker 1>they don't hutilize them joints man as much as you

0:28:26.920 --> 0:28:30.159
<v Speaker 1>would think. Those guys want to move the chains right.

0:28:30.200 --> 0:28:32.480
<v Speaker 1>They're officer of coordinators from Seattle. He's a West Coast dude.

0:28:32.480 --> 0:28:34.960
<v Speaker 1>So what's he running West Coast offense? That dude is

0:28:35.040 --> 0:28:37.760
<v Speaker 1>dncon duncan dncan dunk, dncon dunk, dncan dunk. Move the

0:28:37.840 --> 0:28:39.320
<v Speaker 1>chains and as soon as he lulls you to sleep,

0:28:39.520 --> 0:28:41.480
<v Speaker 1>then he's gonna take a shot. Right. So these guys

0:28:41.600 --> 0:28:45.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna have eight, ten, twelve, twelve plays sustained drives. So

0:28:45.240 --> 0:28:46.760
<v Speaker 1>when we get the ball on offense, guess what we

0:28:46.840 --> 0:28:49.160
<v Speaker 1>need to do. We need to have some sustained drives

0:28:49.240 --> 0:28:53.040
<v Speaker 1>because our defense is gonna be dog tired Chargers. But

0:28:53.080 --> 0:28:55.920
<v Speaker 1>by the way, in terms of time of possession last week,

0:28:56.000 --> 0:28:59.360
<v Speaker 1>thirty six to twenty four, they won that. That's pretty nuts.

0:28:59.440 --> 0:29:02.800
<v Speaker 1>That's a lee lopsided time of possession battle for all

0:29:03.000 --> 0:29:05.160
<v Speaker 1>or excuse me, for an NFL game. It would be

0:29:05.240 --> 0:29:08.080
<v Speaker 1>for a college game too, And either way, yeah, I

0:29:08.080 --> 0:29:11.120
<v Speaker 1>mean that's just showing their balance. Showing their balance. Uh,

0:29:11.440 --> 0:29:13.560
<v Speaker 1>it does the Chargers. But you know, when I look

0:29:13.560 --> 0:29:15.600
<v Speaker 1>at this matchup, you look at two former Rookies of

0:29:15.680 --> 0:29:18.959
<v Speaker 1>the Year, and you know, for for Dak, it's got

0:29:19.080 --> 0:29:21.360
<v Speaker 1>to be you know, monop just like it was last

0:29:21.400 --> 0:29:24.400
<v Speaker 1>week Tom versus Dak, Dak versus Herbert, you know, and

0:29:24.520 --> 0:29:26.600
<v Speaker 1>so This is a situation where both of these guys,

0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:29.000
<v Speaker 1>if you look at them, statistically, they throw the ball

0:29:29.120 --> 0:29:31.320
<v Speaker 1>more than any quarterback in the league. So I think

0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:34.320
<v Speaker 1>we want to talk about establishing the run. But once

0:29:34.400 --> 0:29:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Kellen Moore showed you exactly who he is, believe him,

0:29:37.040 --> 0:29:39.280
<v Speaker 1>that's who he is, He's gonna throw the ball. So

0:29:39.480 --> 0:29:43.400
<v Speaker 1>I think though I'm saying, I mean, I think, I

0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:46.960
<v Speaker 1>think it sounds good in theory, but what happens once

0:29:47.120 --> 0:29:49.160
<v Speaker 1>you know the game plan and they start showing you

0:29:49.280 --> 0:29:51.840
<v Speaker 1>certain things. Look, there are certain things about their secondary

0:29:51.920 --> 0:29:54.479
<v Speaker 1>that sticks out like an eyesore. They have some rookies

0:29:54.560 --> 0:29:56.920
<v Speaker 1>back there that I think we could possibly try and

0:29:56.960 --> 0:30:01.000
<v Speaker 1>attack with our veteran veteran veteran wide receive group, you know,

0:30:01.200 --> 0:30:03.960
<v Speaker 1>and so you know, they're not as ironclad as the

0:30:04.040 --> 0:30:07.000
<v Speaker 1>guys that we went against before, so I still expect

0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:09.440
<v Speaker 1>to shootout. They got some vets back there too. Yeah,

0:30:09.560 --> 0:30:14.600
<v Speaker 1>Chris Harris is a good player. Michael Davis Sunday, Samuel

0:30:14.600 --> 0:30:17.320
<v Speaker 1>played well in that first kid playing on the outside.

0:30:17.360 --> 0:30:19.719
<v Speaker 1>It looked like so yeah, but you're right, I mean,

0:30:19.800 --> 0:30:23.200
<v Speaker 1>they're every week the Cowboys have favorable matchups on the outside.

0:30:24.080 --> 0:30:28.120
<v Speaker 1>It's their personnel. But I'm with heck, like I think

0:30:28.360 --> 0:30:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Zeke's gonna be more involved. I mean, I'd be surprised

0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:33.320
<v Speaker 1>to your point if it's as few carrious as this.

0:30:33.400 --> 0:30:35.800
<v Speaker 1>But if if the Chargers sell out and say we're

0:30:35.840 --> 0:30:38.760
<v Speaker 1>just we're not letting him run, then you have to adjust.

0:30:38.880 --> 0:30:40.840
<v Speaker 1>And that Kellen Moore said it this week, like, I

0:30:40.920 --> 0:30:43.120
<v Speaker 1>don't care, it's just we gotta get the yards of

0:30:43.160 --> 0:30:45.240
<v Speaker 1>the points however it comes. And Zeke doesn't seem to

0:30:45.240 --> 0:30:47.640
<v Speaker 1>have a problem with that, so we'll see. They got

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:50.320
<v Speaker 1>to get him more involved somehow. Yeah, whether it's screens,

0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:52.840
<v Speaker 1>whether it's something, let him feel the game a little bit,

0:30:52.880 --> 0:30:55.000
<v Speaker 1>get a rhythm, and and that's that's my point, right,

0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:58.320
<v Speaker 1>even if I do foresee the Charger stacking the box,

0:30:58.680 --> 0:31:01.000
<v Speaker 1>because that that number thirty three Derwin James, he is

0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:03.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna fight, He's gonna have a presence, he's gonna let

0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:05.600
<v Speaker 1>Zeke know, Hey, I'm here all game long. You have

0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:06.840
<v Speaker 1>to deal with me. So what do we have to do.

0:31:06.920 --> 0:31:08.720
<v Speaker 1>We have to win on the outside, Right, we're missing

0:31:08.760 --> 0:31:11.280
<v Speaker 1>one of our go boys, right, We're missing Gallup, so

0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:13.640
<v Speaker 1>we don't have the juice on both ends, like we like,

0:31:13.720 --> 0:31:16.240
<v Speaker 1>we typically do. Now, obviously we still got CD, don't know,

0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:19.520
<v Speaker 1>and y'all chill out, okay, got CD? Okay, all right,

0:31:19.600 --> 0:31:21.640
<v Speaker 1>But CD does not have the speed of Gallup. Let's

0:31:21.720 --> 0:31:24.040
<v Speaker 1>let's not let's not even and the big playability is

0:31:24.080 --> 0:31:26.000
<v Speaker 1>there for this offense too, so they have to take

0:31:26.000 --> 0:31:28.280
<v Speaker 1>advantage of Chris Harris is one of my favorite dvs

0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:30.760
<v Speaker 1>in the League of levin year. He's savvy. You know.

0:31:30.960 --> 0:31:33.480
<v Speaker 1>I want to say something good about him because I

0:31:33.560 --> 0:31:35.400
<v Speaker 1>said something good about the tight end yesterday and you

0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:39.680
<v Speaker 1>call him Juggernauts, So I was waiting about Chris Harris,

0:31:39.720 --> 0:31:41.240
<v Speaker 1>but I just think he's you know, he's one of

0:31:41.280 --> 0:31:43.800
<v Speaker 1>those good rookie I mean, good veterans in the league. Man.

0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:47.080
<v Speaker 1>You guys keep mentioning some of these guys in terms

0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:50.520
<v Speaker 1>of like Bosa and James, and it's like, it brings

0:31:50.560 --> 0:31:53.640
<v Speaker 1>me back to something you told me previously. Sometimes the

0:31:54.160 --> 0:31:57.960
<v Speaker 1>toughest matchup isn't the most talented player on the other side.

0:31:58.040 --> 0:32:00.240
<v Speaker 1>It's the one that has the most go It's the

0:32:00.240 --> 0:32:01.960
<v Speaker 1>one that has the most juice. And those guys have

0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:04.920
<v Speaker 1>talent and juice and it's it's a tough combination. But

0:32:05.040 --> 0:32:07.000
<v Speaker 1>when we come back here on the other side of

0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:10.240
<v Speaker 1>the break. How do these two quarterbacks match up in

0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:13.160
<v Speaker 1>terms of the rest of the NFL. CBS had an

0:32:13.200 --> 0:32:15.920
<v Speaker 1>interesting ranking where both of them were in the top ten.

0:32:16.080 --> 0:32:18.000
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<v Speaker 1>to get off a little bit early again. Today I

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned CBS Sports. They came out with an NFL QB

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<v Speaker 1>Power ranking for Week two of the NFL season, and

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<v Speaker 1>both of the quarterbacks in this matchup are up there.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is kind of it stuck out to me

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<v Speaker 1>because they're only behind four guys. Patrick Mahomes is one,

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<v Speaker 1>Russell Wilson, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers. Those are the top four.

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<v Speaker 1>Then it's Dak Prescott and Justin Herbert five and six,

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<v Speaker 1>touching tags right up in there. I mean, if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to look across the NFL, this is the number

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<v Speaker 1>one quarterback matchup in the league, according to CBS Sports.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I would agree with that specifically.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got to look at the rest of the games

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of how high both of those guys are.

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<v Speaker 1>But man, I mean that's a matchup we haven't really

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<v Speaker 1>talked about because Dak Prescott's gonna have to throw the

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<v Speaker 1>ball a little bit more to this week, Kacma and

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<v Speaker 1>throw the ball more, not more, but throw the ball more,

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<v Speaker 1>but more, not more than last week. Just he has

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<v Speaker 1>to do it again. Well, let's see it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>let's see And I was talking about the average for

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<v Speaker 1>both of these quarterbacks before we went to break, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just telling you that this guy stole the ball

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<v Speaker 1>around a lot. And as much as we are as

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<v Speaker 1>a as a base wanting to see Zeke become more involved,

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<v Speaker 1>I think if this game is even close, it turns

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<v Speaker 1>into a shootout. Do you see any similarities, Isaiah, when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at Dak Prescott and Justin Herbert anything into

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<v Speaker 1>I think offensively, you can see similarities between kelln moore

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<v Speaker 1>scheme and the Chargers and what they run, not as

0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:48.960
<v Speaker 1>West Coastie, but keeping it underneath, they're similarities though similarities Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not the same exact thing. I don't see a

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<v Speaker 1>whole lot of similarities between the two of them, aside

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<v Speaker 1>from their ability to make, you know, be good decision makers. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, I mean, I think they do it. They

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<v Speaker 1>both do a good job of that. They don't put

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<v Speaker 1>their teams in bad situations. I think there's some other

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<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks as you look through the league who are risk takers.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think either one of these guys are risk takers.

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<v Speaker 1>Not yet. I mean, so I got to go off.

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<v Speaker 1>They're both big quarterbacks who maybe deceptive Lea can buy

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<v Speaker 1>more time than you would think. Roethlisberger has been like

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<v Speaker 1>that over his career. I'd say both are kind of

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<v Speaker 1>in that category. I mean, they don't use Herbert like.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see how much Dak does in the in the

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<v Speaker 1>RPO type stuff as we go here. But I don't,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Dak's more of a threat there in the

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<v Speaker 1>red zone and stuff like that. But yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think being able to extend time in the pocket.

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<v Speaker 1>They both can do that, and they both can make

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much any throw you need to make need him

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<v Speaker 1>to make compared to the last go for it. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just saying, justin Herbert is not afraid to create with

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<v Speaker 1>his legs, so if he feels that pressure, he will

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<v Speaker 1>get out on you. And you know it, Tom wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>like that. You know, Tom, I don't want to run,

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<v Speaker 1>so I think the defense is definitely gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>ears have their ears pick perked up for that. Herbert's

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<v Speaker 1>the perfect mix of a pocket passer who and be

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<v Speaker 1>mobile because he doesn't want to right and he wants

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<v Speaker 1>to stay in the pocket, and he's more lethal in

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<v Speaker 1>the pocket. But if he needs to, he can be mobile. Yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>which is I think that's a great combination. I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to ask you this, Rob, compared to last week's

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<v Speaker 1>matchup with the Cowboys passing game and then then Tampa

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<v Speaker 1>Bay secondary, do you feel much better about this matchup

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<v Speaker 1>or do you feel worse about the matchup with the secondary? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>I actually think the Chargers secondary might be a little

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<v Speaker 1>more challenging. I think so too then than Tampa Bay.

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<v Speaker 1>If there's if Tampa's got a weakness moving forward, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's their depth back there. Um. I still think there's

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<v Speaker 1>opportunities there, and I think where it helps the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>again is their ability maybe to be a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more balanced with opportunities in the run game. That can

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<v Speaker 1>only help Dak maybe get the play action going a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. Um. But yeah, I think so. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's a better matchup Isaiah or tough matchup. Yeah, I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Tampa didn't have a what we would consider

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<v Speaker 1>to be a dog back there in the secondary, and

0:38:59.400 --> 0:39:02.680
<v Speaker 1>every every team has good players. But when as you

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<v Speaker 1>think about the Chargers, that dead dog on thirty three, Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't talking about Scottie Pippen. I'm talking about Darwin James.

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<v Speaker 1>That boy is around, obviously, we just talked about it

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<v Speaker 1>in the break, but Jesus, I mean, he's he's, he's

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<v Speaker 1>he you have to find him. It's kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>Micah except I mean, except he's even more in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of he can cover the slot, he can do whatever

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<v Speaker 1>you need. I think there as you play as a Chargers,

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's there's at all three levels. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>guy you need to find. You need to find Bosa,

0:39:29.680 --> 0:39:31.399
<v Speaker 1>you need to find Murray, you need to find James.

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<v Speaker 1>You better know where to heck those guys are. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a great point. That's hard to do offensively. I'm saying

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<v Speaker 1>lit Coop be coop. You know, let him, let him

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<v Speaker 1>be cool, yea, let him do his thing. And if

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<v Speaker 1>they want to single him up, if you know our

0:39:45.120 --> 0:39:47.279
<v Speaker 1>guys in the slot, if they run a rookie out

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<v Speaker 1>there baptizing, you know, that's making pay. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>what I felt comfortable about last week was DA's ability

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<v Speaker 1>to find open receivers. And they have those openings. You

0:39:56.080 --> 0:39:58.920
<v Speaker 1>saw Scary Terry, he was out there finding those openings

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<v Speaker 1>out in the flat. They play a lot of too

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<v Speaker 1>deep and and so it's just gonna be up to

0:40:04.000 --> 0:40:07.080
<v Speaker 1>us to let our talented guys go out there and

0:40:07.080 --> 0:40:08.359
<v Speaker 1>show what they have. And that's why I say lit

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<v Speaker 1>Coop be coop and find the big playability this week

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be there for the Cowboys. But the

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<v Speaker 1>red zone issues, but we should we should be running

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<v Speaker 1>the ball down there. I know we gotta get ready,

0:40:21.239 --> 0:40:22.360
<v Speaker 1>get off the air, but we should be running the

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<v Speaker 1>ball down there. And the reason why I say that

0:40:23.600 --> 0:40:26.000
<v Speaker 1>is because the Chargers like to run a three three five,

0:40:26.200 --> 0:40:28.319
<v Speaker 1>which you don't see a lot in this league. Three

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<v Speaker 1>down line in three linebackers and five dbs. Now, they

0:40:31.400 --> 0:40:33.520
<v Speaker 1>may not run that against us because we're down a receiver,

0:40:33.920 --> 0:40:35.560
<v Speaker 1>but if they tend, if they want to run that,

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<v Speaker 1>we better be running the freaking ball and we better

0:40:38.120 --> 0:40:41.319
<v Speaker 1>be able to run the ball down there all day long. Yeah,

0:40:41.400 --> 0:40:47.680
<v Speaker 1>but you know we're gonna throw it. Let's go. Let's

0:40:47.800 --> 0:40:49.439
<v Speaker 1>let's talk a little bit more about the red zone

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<v Speaker 1>struggles tomorrow on Guess what it is tomorrow. Stay with

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. It's gonna be great, and we're hoping

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