WEBVTT - Weirdhouse Cinema Rewind: Bloodbeat

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Welcome to Weird House Cinema Rewind. This is Rob

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<v Speaker 1>Lamb and this is Joe McCormick, and we are out

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<v Speaker 1>this week for a holiday break, but we've got some

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<v Speaker 1>great vault episodes for you. This today is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a Weird House Cinema rewind for a for a

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<v Speaker 1>holiday episode from previous years. This is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>about blood Beat, the Samurai Christmas slasher film. This episode

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<v Speaker 1>originally published on December ten. Uh, enjoy if you can.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's if this is your type of of

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<v Speaker 1>holiday experience that I think you enjoyed. If it's not

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<v Speaker 1>your thing, yeah, yeah, let's skip this one because this

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<v Speaker 1>week is the rare week where we're doing I think

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<v Speaker 1>two Weird House Cinema rewind So if you're not crazy

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<v Speaker 1>about this selection, well then tune in tomorrow when we

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<v Speaker 1>really run another holiday selection from the previous year. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to Stuff to Blow your Mind, a production of My

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<v Speaker 1>Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. This is

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<v Speaker 1>Rob Lamb and this is Joe McCormick. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>Weird House Cinema's second holiday season, but this is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be the first time we're actually going to be talking

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<v Speaker 1>about a holiday film. I don't Robot Jocks is a

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<v Speaker 1>holiday film. Well it Robot Jocks feels like Christmas. And

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<v Speaker 1>we've we've had a few films like that that feel

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<v Speaker 1>like Christmas, but they're not really a Christmas movie. They're

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<v Speaker 1>not set at Christmas. And I mean, and to be clear,

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<v Speaker 1>like this movie is not about Christmas, but it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It is. It is a film that takes place during

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<v Speaker 1>the holidays. Um. Now, and now I should well wait,

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<v Speaker 1>does the does the die hard logic apply? I know

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<v Speaker 1>people like arguing about this on the internet. I've never

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<v Speaker 1>actually gotten into it about that, but yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a strong opinion about that, but I

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<v Speaker 1>guess it depends on what the holiday is doing in

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<v Speaker 1>the film, right and um and and I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>care whether people decide to label this that or the

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<v Speaker 1>other a holiday film. But of course you have you

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<v Speaker 1>have films that are very much about the holiday things

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, adaptations of the Christmas Carol, Miracle on

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<v Speaker 1>thirty four Street, all that that kind of stuff, And

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<v Speaker 1>of course those are holiday films. And I should say

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<v Speaker 1>that some of some of my favorite holiday movies are

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<v Speaker 1>are certainly weird and prime contenders for the weird House treatment.

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<v Speaker 1>But but I thought we might go with an entry

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<v Speaker 1>this week from that surprisingly large subgenre of holiday horror,

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<v Speaker 1>with a strong emphasis on Christmas time horror films in

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<v Speaker 1>American cinema. You know, I would have assumed, because Halloween

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<v Speaker 1>is one of the most copied movies of all time,

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<v Speaker 1>that the Christmas horror slasher film arose as one of

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<v Speaker 1>the many how Queen copycats like Friday thirteen. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that was pretty clearly an inspiration behind Friday

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<v Speaker 1>the thirteenth. It was like, hey, here's a real you know,

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<v Speaker 1>here was a successful movie about a guy with a knife,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's named after a day. Let's do another movie

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<v Speaker 1>about a knife wheelder running around named after a day.

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<v Speaker 1>So you would think that was true for Christmas films.

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<v Speaker 1>But actually, the first Christmas slasher film predates Halloween, um

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<v Speaker 1>or at least as far as I know, right, because

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<v Speaker 1>Black Christmas came out in nineteen four. Yeah. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>one of those early days slasher films. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>considered it sort of almost a proto slasher film things

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<v Speaker 1>were just getting started. Um, I gotta say, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>love it, though, I watched it years ago and just

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<v Speaker 1>found it kind of boring and unpleasant. I much prefer Halloween,

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<v Speaker 1>even if it came later. It's it's the real uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the true progenitor here right in Halloween. It makes

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<v Speaker 1>sense at Halloween, right, And and that's that's when we

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<v Speaker 1>get into the kind of the enigma of the Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>horror film. Um. I think that just the the just

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of it even fascinates me because I have

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<v Speaker 1>a very strong memory of being a child wandering the

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<v Speaker 1>halls of the local VHS rental store and seeing the

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<v Speaker 1>posters and box art for various Christmas horror films, especially

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like Black Christmas and Silent Night Deadly Nine, but

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<v Speaker 1>even stuff like Grimlin's um and seeing that stuff and

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<v Speaker 1>just feeling like, well, this, this is wrong. This these

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<v Speaker 1>films should not be because even though my family made

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<v Speaker 1>a big deal about, uh, you know, about Halloween, we

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<v Speaker 1>did all sorts of Halloween stuff. But then when you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we got into Christmas, and as a child especially, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas is a special time and I just I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>it to be this, like, you know, this pure good thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and it just felt wrong that there were these movies

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<v Speaker 1>jumping in there and trying to make it grim or nasty.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Oh wow, I don't remember having that feeling

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<v Speaker 1>at all. I definitely remember being both intrigued and actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I could be wrong and having this memory,

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<v Speaker 1>but I sort of recall finding it humorous, like looking

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<v Speaker 1>at the cover of Silent Night, Deadly Night and seeing

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<v Speaker 1>like the Santa suit arm with the acts and thinking

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<v Speaker 1>that is funny. My my little seven year old brain

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't quite know why it's funny. But I'm prowling through

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<v Speaker 1>the R rated section of the Turtles video or I'm

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<v Speaker 1>probably not supposed to be, and this this is funny.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if part of it for me anyway, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>for other folks out there, is that at Christmas time,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, sort of the typical American holiday season, you

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<v Speaker 1>have this um you know, there's this this increased um

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<v Speaker 1>emphasis on the mythology and the fiction of the holiday,

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<v Speaker 1>and in this uh, this idea that especially children should

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<v Speaker 1>be allowed and encouraged to believe in it, and even

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<v Speaker 1>past the point where their reason has actually kicked in

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<v Speaker 1>and they're seeing the truth for what it is. And

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<v Speaker 1>and so you know, therefore, perhaps these these these obvious

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<v Speaker 1>horror inventions, they kind of mess with it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because you're already having this crisis of belief in your

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<v Speaker 1>own little head about the existence of Santa Claus. And

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<v Speaker 1>if Santa Claus is perhaps not real, then then what

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<v Speaker 1>about the baby Jesus? What about the rest of it?

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<v Speaker 1>Is only half of it fake? You know, So you're

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<v Speaker 1>going out, You're having this big crisis of belief, and

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<v Speaker 1>then here's somebody else's is making up this, uh, this

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<v Speaker 1>story about killer Santa's or whatnot. Well, the other way

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<v Speaker 1>to frame it is, when you're seven years old, you

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<v Speaker 1>still believe in Santa Claus. Seeing the concept of a

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<v Speaker 1>horror movie where Santa Claus is wielding a bloody axe

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<v Speaker 1>seems vaguely blasphemous or at least carries some kind of

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<v Speaker 1>blasphemic weight. Yeah, I would definitely say so that that

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<v Speaker 1>was exactly how I felt about these films growing up,

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<v Speaker 1>is that these these this just blasphemy. It should not be.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they didn't try and like you know, destroy

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<v Speaker 1>the boxes or anything, but I was like, Nope, not

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<v Speaker 1>for me. And I have to say, some of these

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<v Speaker 1>films are still not from me. But I've gone back

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<v Speaker 1>and watch some of them, and I appreciate. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the interest thing about it is that it has

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<v Speaker 1>not stopped, and when it will not stop, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>keep having horror related uh, Christmas movies and holiday films

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<v Speaker 1>coming out. And I I think maybe we've gotten better

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<v Speaker 1>at it because I think we've had maybe an awakening

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<v Speaker 1>in American culture anyway regarding like how are Christmas stories

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<v Speaker 1>and wintertime traditions work? That you know, the realization that

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<v Speaker 1>that the sort of department store Santa Claus vision of

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<v Speaker 1>the holidays is one that was highly sanitized, and it

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<v Speaker 1>had you had things like you know, child eating trolls

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<v Speaker 1>and crampus removed from it. You had you'd removed the

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<v Speaker 1>hostile winter aspects of the of these holiday traditions. And

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<v Speaker 1>so the more that you realize that, yes, this is

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be a time in which there is darkness

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<v Speaker 1>and the promise of light, uh, it makes more room

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<v Speaker 1>for and in a way almost more honest explorations of

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<v Speaker 1>that and sometimes and I think more fun. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>things like what's the Santa Claus monster film Rare Exports

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<v Speaker 1>that came out several years ago. That's a great one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Like like that's that's that's fun. And yeah. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>watching that didn't like trigger any like Childhood Santa Claus

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<v Speaker 1>blasphemy warnings for me. You know, it just felt like

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<v Speaker 1>a fun monster flick. Yeah, I see what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>And I will say, of that early crop of Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, any general Solstice horror themed movies, the

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<v Speaker 1>only one I really love is Gremlins. Like Black Christmas,

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<v Speaker 1>Silent Silent Night, Deadly Night, all that stuff didn't really

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<v Speaker 1>do it for me. Yeah, I mean, Gremlins has its

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<v Speaker 1>own problems, but but at least it was trying on

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<v Speaker 1>the whole to be fun, whereas I think some of

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<v Speaker 1>these earlier films were just kind of like like here

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<v Speaker 1>here it comes nasty Christmas, it comes here, here comes

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<v Speaker 1>your horror Christmas. You like your Christmas? Will how about

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<v Speaker 1>some murder in your Christmas? You know? Um. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's just it's progressed as a as an art

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<v Speaker 1>form since those days. And part of that might be that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we can look back on those films as

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<v Speaker 1>being kind of like a almost kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>an anti establishment statement, you know, sort of striking against

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<v Speaker 1>the the corporate purity of the traditional American holiday season.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, and I think that's that kind of leads

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<v Speaker 1>into another reason why we keep having these films Because

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<v Speaker 1>on one hand, yes, the darkness has always been a

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<v Speaker 1>part of our winter festivals, and therefore there's a desire

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<v Speaker 1>I think in us to have it in our our

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<v Speaker 1>modern festivities. But on the other end of things, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like, if if Christmas and the holidays, if it's

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<v Speaker 1>all feeling too fake, too purified, too forced upon you, um,

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<v Speaker 1>a Christmas horror film is a way of sort of

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<v Speaker 1>releasing the pressure. It feels like a way to rebalance everything,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a ninety minute hot topic t shirt of

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<v Speaker 1>rebellion against norms and society. Yeah, and that's also like

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<v Speaker 1>a huge reason I think that you see the Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>thrown into the movies like this, you know, because the

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<v Speaker 1>juxtaposition of Christmas alongside monster or Mayhem, blood or even

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in an action movie situation like die Hard. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it can it can just be a way

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<v Speaker 1>to get a reaction out of the audience and to

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<v Speaker 1>make everything a little more novel. Now. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>that's especially the case of the more I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>irreverent or maybe at least latently satirical Christmas horror films.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's a kind of different beast altogether. If

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<v Speaker 1>you make a Christmas horror movie that itself take is

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<v Speaker 1>very serious or takes itself very seriously. Well, this brings

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<v Speaker 1>to mind Ridley Scott's Prometheus movie, which had some very

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<v Speaker 1>uh you know, serious minded themes in it that it

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to to bring across and then also had

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas stuff in it, and they seem to be genuinely

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<v Speaker 1>trying to like make a connection there. You know, it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>um and maybe trying a bit too hard. I totally

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<v Speaker 1>forgot about Christmas being in there. What what? What's Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>about it? It's just it is Christmas on the spaceship

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<v Speaker 1>and they have like a Christmas tree or something. What

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<v Speaker 1>rains this misremembering that I believe that Prometheus is a

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas movie. Let's go to the tape Consus shapes with

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<v Speaker 1>high colorion. M hmm, what the hell is that? It's Christmas?

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<v Speaker 1>Need Holidays? So time is still moving. Mission briefing is

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<v Speaker 1>about to start. Captain, I want to make your way down.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I haven't had a breakfaste yet, but but we're

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<v Speaker 1>not talking about Prometheus. Today we're talking about a different

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<v Speaker 1>film entirely. We had a number of holiday horror films

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<v Speaker 1>to consider, but we ended up going with the one

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<v Speaker 1>that neither of us had seen before but had built

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<v Speaker 1>up something of a reputation for weirdness, and that's Three's

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<v Speaker 1>blood Beat. Where did you find this thing? This? This

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<v Speaker 1>movie is so weird it made my toenails curl. What

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<v Speaker 1>where did you find this? I believe earlier in the year,

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<v Speaker 1>I was looking through just like a database. Maybe it

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<v Speaker 1>was it was on Internet movie database, of course, but

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<v Speaker 1>it might have been something like a Wikipedia. I was

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<v Speaker 1>just looking at different genre films from different decades, and

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<v Speaker 1>I noted that this one had been flagged as being

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<v Speaker 1>a holiday or Christmas movie. Uh. So I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>holiday Christmas slasher, I'll put it in and uh, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we'll come back to it when we get closer

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<v Speaker 1>to the holidays themselves. And then when I started looking

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<v Speaker 1>into a little bit more, I well, I watched the trailer,

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<v Speaker 1>which we'll get to and that that kind of sold me.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh. And then also Michael Weldon, in one of

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<v Speaker 1>his psychotronic books, he had it listed. He was one

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<v Speaker 1>of the sort of neutral listings where he didn't. He

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<v Speaker 1>didn't passionately promoted, But he also didn't say it was bad.

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<v Speaker 1>He just said it was a confusing movie with quote

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<v Speaker 1>dream sequences, magical powers, nudity, and blood. Well, I'd say

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<v Speaker 1>that's a mostly correct description, especially on the confusing part,

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<v Speaker 1>because I paid close attention to this film and I

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<v Speaker 1>do not understand what it was about. Yeah, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>have a feeling you and I thought longer and harder

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<v Speaker 1>about the meaning, the true meaning of this film, more

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<v Speaker 1>than than most people. But but blood Beat one word,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, blood Beat, uh has a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>things going for it for starters. It's it's not nearly

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<v Speaker 1>as all in and on holiday sacrilege as most Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>films are. So this one's not about making you feel

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<v Speaker 1>bad about the about the holidays or anything. So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, I liked it a little more for that. Uh. Secondly,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a Wisconsin movie, and I think that makes for

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<v Speaker 1>our first Wisconsin movie. Yeah, this movie has a fair

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<v Speaker 1>quotient of of dub Bears type guys wearing flannel and

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<v Speaker 1>trucker hats and and having uh you know, good mustaches.

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<v Speaker 1>It's uh, it's this movie it's it's got bratt Verst

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<v Speaker 1>and uh and you know cheese kurd just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>flowing through its veins and it's enough to make you think, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>this must be you know, Wisconsin indie film everybody, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's from Wisconsin. The director, who will get to in

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<v Speaker 1>a bit though, uh is French. But I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to allow this to be considered our first French movie

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<v Speaker 1>that we've watched on Weird how Cinema. We've got there

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<v Speaker 1>are better choices to to to really represent French weird cinema. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so what we've established so far is this is a

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<v Speaker 1>Franco Wisconsinite indie Christmas horror film that what subgenre of

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<v Speaker 1>horror would you put it in? Maybe? Um, uh, psychic slashers, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I think psychic slasher would be Uh, it would be

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<v Speaker 1>accurate and uh and I'll tell you another fun thing

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<v Speaker 1>about this is that, in similar to films like Troll

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<v Speaker 1>two and Spooky's that we've we've looked at on the

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<v Speaker 1>show before, uh, it involves mostly people who really didn't

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<v Speaker 1>do anything or at all, or or or anything else

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<v Speaker 1>besides this picture in terms of you know, other film appearances,

0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:50.760
<v Speaker 1>which which can be in a way it can be

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<v Speaker 1>um kind of liberating, like I love, you know, making

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<v Speaker 1>these connections to other films and you know, thinking about, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>what were they in? What were they And you go

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<v Speaker 1>in to it too at times and you're like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>if nothing else, I know, well Peter laure is in it,

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<v Speaker 1>so he's going to do something interesting. That that sort

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<v Speaker 1>of thing. But with a movie like this, it can

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it just came from another universe. Or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that's like it's not a film at all, but something real,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. In keeping with the psychic theme, I would

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<v Speaker 1>say this movie feels like a dream somebody had about

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<v Speaker 1>a movie that didn't exist, except they managed to project it,

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<v Speaker 1>like psychic photography or that. What was that we talked.

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<v Speaker 1>We did an episode on the supposed a phenomenon like

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<v Speaker 1>projected thermography, people just printing their dreams and imagery on

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<v Speaker 1>on on photographic plates. Um. I don't think people can

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<v Speaker 1>actually do that, by the way, but but yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>just imagine that happened for somebody's dream, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of thing where while you're watching it, you

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<v Speaker 1>just accept because it's a dream that oh, yeah, these

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<v Speaker 1>are actors I would know. But then of course when

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<v Speaker 1>you wake up, you're like, oh, wait a minute, those

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<v Speaker 1>aren't people that they came out of my subconscious Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, this would probably be worth looking at

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<v Speaker 1>even if it was just like a just a whole

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<v Speaker 1>much of non sequitors. It was just like one weird

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<v Speaker 1>dream sequence after the other. You know, their films like

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<v Speaker 1>that that I have enjoyed over the years. But this

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<v Speaker 1>movie does have a plot, and even better than that,

0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:14.640
<v Speaker 1>it seems weirdly ambitious. It's it's kind of punching above

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<v Speaker 1>its weight a little bit and trying to say something,

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<v Speaker 1>which is always the kuda gras with a good D film, Right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, so most slasher films, you know, the people involved, No,

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<v Speaker 1>they're making trash. And and so the question is are

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<v Speaker 1>do they know how to make fun trash or do

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<v Speaker 1>they end up making just boring, miserable trash. But no,

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<v Speaker 1>in this case, you can it's quite clear that somebody

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<v Speaker 1>involved at least thought they were making art. Yes, all right, well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's talk elevator pitch for this film. I was

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<v Speaker 1>thinking holidays with family are rough, especially when mom is

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<v Speaker 1>psychic and your girlfriend is possessed by a samurai. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>holiday family gatherings can be awkward enough already. Uh, it

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<v Speaker 1>just gets worse when they're just like a psychically projected

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<v Speaker 1>ghost samurai running around slashing everybody's throat. Yeah. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>Mom's constantly eavesdropping on you through her psychic paintings that

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<v Speaker 1>are hung all over the house. Yes, all right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go ahead and listen to the trailer here, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're gonna we may be playing the trailer

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<v Speaker 1>in full because it has a wonderful grindhalcy like echo

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<v Speaker 1>vibe to it. A devil, a devil, I'm torning what

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<v Speaker 1>you worn, what you lives, lives, breaves held, paralyzed with fears,

0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:51.720
<v Speaker 1>with fears, it kills as skill as mutilates, mutila anyone,

0:17:51.800 --> 0:18:01.680
<v Speaker 1>and it's us one, and it's tormented by a psychic house. Bloody, bloody,

0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:21.720
<v Speaker 1>horrileful press is blood blood ready, blood lunch blood set. Yeah,

0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:25.040
<v Speaker 1>just sounds grimy. Was this the one that everything it

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<v Speaker 1>says it says twice? Yes, at least twice. There's like

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<v Speaker 1>this weird echo thing, And it's like, even even though

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're out there listening to this podcast and you

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<v Speaker 1>could not see the footage, you probably had like audible

0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:41.159
<v Speaker 1>cigarette burns inside your your skull, you know, like you

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<v Speaker 1>can imagine that sort of gritty uh you know it

0:18:44.160 --> 0:18:46.160
<v Speaker 1>made eighty three film, but still that you would get

0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:48.920
<v Speaker 1>that kind of like nineteen seventies grit on the footage

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<v Speaker 1>this trailer has the sound of somebody getting a like

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<v Speaker 1>beer that they snuck in in their boot out and

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<v Speaker 1>cracking it open in the dark. Absolutely. All right, Well

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about the people. And again I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>remind everyone that the connections on this are not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be as robust as some of our other films, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's still worth looking at at who these folks were,

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<v Speaker 1>uhland or are. Uh So let's start at the top.

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<v Speaker 1>The director, the writer. Also credits for music, film editing,

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<v Speaker 1>and camera operation go to Fabrice on Gay Zafaratos. Um

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<v Speaker 1>This is a French director who prior to this, made

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen seventy seven film La Grand Freman The Large Farm.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that translates to which may or may not

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<v Speaker 1>involve a motorcycle based on the cover art. Blood Beat

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<v Speaker 1>was his second film and his last film. He has

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<v Speaker 1>some connection to um Ri Zafaratos, who produced and directed

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<v Speaker 1>and Road and was very active in the reasonably active

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<v Speaker 1>in the six season seventies. But this is a figure

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<v Speaker 1>that I could not find any English translations regarding like.

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<v Speaker 1>There seems to be like a French Wikipedia article about him,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't know that he's widely known outside of that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not even sure that this is in fact

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<v Speaker 1>our director of Blood Beats Father. But there seems to

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<v Speaker 1>be some family connection there matter. Maybe it's an uncle.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Um, But anyway, this film Blood Beat,

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<v Speaker 1>for better or Worse is Zapharatos the younger's vision, and

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<v Speaker 1>his vision is weird. The film is certainly confusing. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's ambitious, it's kind of it's all over the place

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<v Speaker 1>in some respects. But he was trying to say something,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least was trying to rope all this together

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<v Speaker 1>into a narrative that made sense and said something. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>though with varying degrees of success. Now I mentioned that

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<v Speaker 1>he has a music credit, so I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>add quick note on the music. The score here varies

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<v Speaker 1>from works of classical music, including very well known pieces

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<v Speaker 1>like Karl Orff's Carmina burana Is is used during the

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<v Speaker 1>finale for example. Uh, And I just have to say

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<v Speaker 1>that the use especially of classical music, but of all

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<v Speaker 1>the music is actually one of the funniest and weirdest

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<v Speaker 1>things about this movie. There are a number of scenes

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<v Speaker 1>that are already strange, but they're pushed over the line

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<v Speaker 1>by having music that feels like nobody else would select

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<v Speaker 1>this this music to go with this scene. So like

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<v Speaker 1>a scene of characters sitting around on a couch just

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<v Speaker 1>sort of being awkward, but it's playing these like fast

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<v Speaker 1>classical strings, like all these glassondi. It's like, what is

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<v Speaker 1>going on? Just the music frequently does not match the

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<v Speaker 1>tone of the scene, or to the extent that it does,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just heightening something, uh that that feels kind of

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<v Speaker 1>off about the scene. Yeah, and then they'll other times

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<v Speaker 1>they'll throw in Gregorian chant. There's definitely a bit that, uh.

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<v Speaker 1>But then other times it gives you exactly what you

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<v Speaker 1>might expect and hope for with the film of this caliber,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is kind of amateur esque electronic music um,

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<v Speaker 1>which at times I think worked pretty well, especially when

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<v Speaker 1>you've got this kind of pulse pounding electronic vibe going um.

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<v Speaker 1>At least in a few scenes that it worked pretty well.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of the electronic music in this movie is

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<v Speaker 1>what I would refer to. Maybe there's another name for

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<v Speaker 1>this that already exists, but what I would call boying

0:22:30.480 --> 0:22:34.120
<v Speaker 1>boying music. Uh. This movie, actually it contains a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of synthesizers that sound like cartoons, spring sound effects, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>bl blont blant and then uh and then of course

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<v Speaker 1>usually offset with the sound of heartbeats, which are used

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<v Speaker 1>frequently in the soundtrack throughout the whole film. Now you

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<v Speaker 1>said heartbeats, I think you'll find that those are blood beats.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh excuse me, yes, I stand corrected. All right. So

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<v Speaker 1>we we have a limited cast in this because it

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<v Speaker 1>basically a cerns a boyfriend bringing his girlfriend home to

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<v Speaker 1>meet his family at Christmas. Let's start with the mom.

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<v Speaker 1>The mom is Kathie and she is played by Helen

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<v Speaker 1>bent Tone Uh. Dates unknown for her. This is her

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<v Speaker 1>only film role, but I thought she was mostly pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the distracted art mom who also has the shinning, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>heavy shinning. I don't know what an actor should have

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<v Speaker 1>done with this role, but you know what, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to give credit to Helen Mintone because I mean, what's

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<v Speaker 1>off about this role is all in the script. I mean,

0:23:35.280 --> 0:23:38.280
<v Speaker 1>unless the actor was improvising. I don't think she was so.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh So this is a very weird character. But but

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<v Speaker 1>I think Helen Bentone does does the best that could

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<v Speaker 1>be done with it. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's not

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<v Speaker 1>one of those where you're you're gawking at her performance

0:23:49.359 --> 0:23:52.520
<v Speaker 1>or anything and and wondering what you're doing. Like she's

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<v Speaker 1>doing the best you can clearly, and uh A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the time that seems to work, all right. And

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<v Speaker 1>then we also have Gary, whose mom's boyfriend than this,

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<v Speaker 1>and Darry is played by Terry Brown. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that's he's cut from the same raw block of

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<v Speaker 1>masculinity that such figures as Ross Dour roused Our rather

0:24:12.080 --> 0:24:15.320
<v Speaker 1>from the final sacrifice was cut from. Yes, he's a

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<v Speaker 1>he's a hunter, he's an outdoorsman. He's uh he's weathered

0:24:20.200 --> 0:24:23.119
<v Speaker 1>by the northern planes and then the harsh winds. But

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time, there's like a scene where he's

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<v Speaker 1>laying shirtless in a bed and his skin is surprisingly

0:24:28.800 --> 0:24:33.160
<v Speaker 1>smooth and youthful looking. It's very funny. So the dates

0:24:33.200 --> 0:24:35.359
<v Speaker 1>are unknown for the actor Terry Brown as well, but

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<v Speaker 1>Brown actually pops up in some other films, generally in

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<v Speaker 1>much smaller roles. He followed up blood Beat with Dark Rider,

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<v Speaker 1>starring Joe Estevez. You know it's good if it's got

0:24:47.119 --> 0:24:51.159
<v Speaker 1>that Joe Esteves seal u um. And also he pops

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<v Speaker 1>up in a movie from titled My Samurai, So there's

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<v Speaker 1>to two Samurai films and and what is you know

0:24:59.359 --> 0:25:03.080
<v Speaker 1>very much a small filmography. That film, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>had Mako and Tario Quinn in it, Teryo Quinn. Yeah,

0:25:07.520 --> 0:25:11.800
<v Speaker 1>Brown also pops up I think just bit parts copycat.

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<v Speaker 1>He shows up on Nash Bridges and also the Princess Diaries, okay,

0:25:16.400 --> 0:25:21.280
<v Speaker 1>and playing Gary from Bloody in the Princess Diaries. As Gary,

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<v Speaker 1>he's pretty good. Um, he's believable as as this hunter guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Though there are times I don't know if you've noticed this,

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<v Speaker 1>but there are times where he has like he suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>has to be emotional and he just, to my eyes,

0:25:33.880 --> 0:25:36.600
<v Speaker 1>he just ratches it up way too far. Like suddenly

0:25:36.600 --> 0:25:39.080
<v Speaker 1>he's just like he's like really animated and angry, when

0:25:39.080 --> 0:25:40.480
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the time he's he's pretty chill and

0:25:40.560 --> 0:25:43.040
<v Speaker 1>laid back. I don't know if i'd say he's a

0:25:43.040 --> 0:25:47.120
<v Speaker 1>good actor, but he's quite likable. Yeah. Yeah, there's there's

0:25:47.160 --> 0:25:51.399
<v Speaker 1>something naturally likable about the guy playing this role, uh

0:25:51.480 --> 0:25:55.119
<v Speaker 1>that that shines through and also makes his um his

0:25:55.240 --> 0:25:59.360
<v Speaker 1>moments of being kind of unreasonable and upset not all

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<v Speaker 1>that believable. All right, let's get back to the Sun.

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<v Speaker 1>The Sun is kd played by James Fitzgibbons. Dates unknown,

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<v Speaker 1>one of only two screen credits, and he looks kind

0:26:10.720 --> 0:26:16.480
<v Speaker 1>of like a cross between Bennedict Cumberbatch and Don Jr. Yeah, uh,

0:26:16.480 --> 0:26:21.800
<v Speaker 1>he he's got to look he Early in the movie,

0:26:21.880 --> 0:26:25.000
<v Speaker 1>there's a scene where he's wearing a black sweater tucked

0:26:25.080 --> 0:26:28.040
<v Speaker 1>into his jeans and I was like, well, yeah, that's

0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:30.280
<v Speaker 1>how I would just that's what I used to describe

0:26:30.280 --> 0:26:34.280
<v Speaker 1>his character. Yeah, um, And you know I could. But

0:26:35.000 --> 0:26:37.280
<v Speaker 1>I think this actor is fine in this role. Like

0:26:37.359 --> 0:26:40.440
<v Speaker 1>I bought into him being this this character and did

0:26:40.480 --> 0:26:43.280
<v Speaker 1>not think much about this as a performance. And I

0:26:43.280 --> 0:26:46.200
<v Speaker 1>guess the same could be said, uh for his sister Dolly.

0:26:46.560 --> 0:26:50.280
<v Speaker 1>The character's sister Dolly played by Dana Day Dates unknown

0:26:50.720 --> 0:26:52.800
<v Speaker 1>for her as well, and this is her only film role.

0:26:53.320 --> 0:26:56.920
<v Speaker 1>And then finally we have Sarah, whose Ked's poor girl

0:26:56.960 --> 0:26:59.240
<v Speaker 1>friend who has to come out here into the middle

0:26:59.240 --> 0:27:01.800
<v Speaker 1>of nowhere and was Anson and visit this family at Christmas,

0:27:02.600 --> 0:27:06.200
<v Speaker 1>and she is played by Claudia Peyton. Claudia Peyton lived

0:27:06.280 --> 0:27:08.600
<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifty six through two thousand and twelve. This is

0:27:08.640 --> 0:27:11.760
<v Speaker 1>her only film role. Um, but uh, you know, I

0:27:11.840 --> 0:27:14.399
<v Speaker 1>think she was quite good in this as the psionically

0:27:14.480 --> 0:27:18.560
<v Speaker 1>and spiritually sensitive girlfriend having to visit her boyfriend's family

0:27:18.560 --> 0:27:22.360
<v Speaker 1>in rural Wisconsin. Her obituary reveals that she was actually

0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:25.320
<v Speaker 1>a pretty highly trained with an m A and several

0:27:25.320 --> 0:27:28.960
<v Speaker 1>certificates in the Alexander technique, which I'm to understand is

0:27:29.000 --> 0:27:34.080
<v Speaker 1>an alternative therapy based in acting for actors. Uh. She

0:27:34.119 --> 0:27:37.360
<v Speaker 1>attended Drama Studio London and seems to have taught acting

0:27:37.440 --> 0:27:40.840
<v Speaker 1>in New York City and in Chicago for a large

0:27:40.840 --> 0:27:43.159
<v Speaker 1>part of her life. You know. Also, I don't I

0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:46.160
<v Speaker 1>don't know what she should have done with this character,

0:27:46.400 --> 0:27:49.560
<v Speaker 1>but but what she did was enjoyable. I guess. Like

0:27:50.200 --> 0:27:52.880
<v Speaker 1>in almost every shot of the movie, I mean literally,

0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:57.639
<v Speaker 1>i'd say nine percent plus of the shots, including her face,

0:27:58.359 --> 0:28:01.360
<v Speaker 1>she's making an expression the sounds like it should be

0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:07.800
<v Speaker 1>accompanied by a vocalization, kind of like like she just

0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:11.880
<v Speaker 1>looks perpetually in a in a state of uh near

0:28:11.960 --> 0:28:16.480
<v Speaker 1>paralysis with awkward anxiety. Yeah, yeah, and and it and it.

0:28:16.600 --> 0:28:19.199
<v Speaker 1>I think it largely works because at hard this is

0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:22.920
<v Speaker 1>a film about feeling awkward at your your boyfriend's parents house.

0:28:24.359 --> 0:28:26.639
<v Speaker 1>And I think you know, we we've all been in

0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:29.080
<v Speaker 1>some version of this scenario before. Many of us have

0:28:29.119 --> 0:28:32.600
<v Speaker 1>been in some version of this scenario. Um where you know,

0:28:32.680 --> 0:28:35.680
<v Speaker 1>the awkwardness that this film is is trying to portray

0:28:36.040 --> 0:28:39.360
<v Speaker 1>and is ultimately based entirely around you know, like that

0:28:39.480 --> 0:28:42.320
<v Speaker 1>is uh you know, they say, you know, go with

0:28:42.360 --> 0:28:44.320
<v Speaker 1>what you know, you know, make sure there's this core

0:28:44.360 --> 0:28:47.480
<v Speaker 1>of truth to your strange speculative story. Well, this is

0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:50.360
<v Speaker 1>the this is the core of truth to this motion picture.

0:28:50.760 --> 0:29:02.240
<v Speaker 1>Sure enough. No, now what happens here? Are we going

0:29:02.280 --> 0:29:04.320
<v Speaker 1>to try to explain the plot? I guess there will

0:29:04.360 --> 0:29:07.080
<v Speaker 1>be spoilers. There probably have already been spoilers, but I

0:29:07.640 --> 0:29:09.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know if it makes a difference. No, No, I

0:29:09.960 --> 0:29:11.760
<v Speaker 1>think you can. You can go into this one spoiled

0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:15.840
<v Speaker 1>and it's still gonna perplex you. Okay, Well, are you ready?

0:29:15.080 --> 0:29:17.520
<v Speaker 1>Let's do it? Okay. So the first thing we get

0:29:17.600 --> 0:29:20.400
<v Speaker 1>is Boying Boying music like I was talking about earlier,

0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:24.200
<v Speaker 1>and you know, the title it looks like it would

0:29:24.200 --> 0:29:28.800
<v Speaker 1>be a nice logo for a board game, don't you agree. Yeah, yeah,

0:29:28.840 --> 0:29:32.040
<v Speaker 1>it's like blood Beat from Milton Bradley. It's got it's

0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:34.640
<v Speaker 1>got a nice font and then blood dripping down the letters,

0:29:34.720 --> 0:29:37.520
<v Speaker 1>and then it's got a cartoon dagger stabbing into the

0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:40.960
<v Speaker 1>d in the word blood. Uh, though, I wonder why

0:29:40.960 --> 0:29:43.800
<v Speaker 1>it's a dagger. This dagger I'm pretty sure does not

0:29:43.920 --> 0:29:47.480
<v Speaker 1>feature in the movie. That this should have been a katana. Yeah,

0:29:47.480 --> 0:29:49.200
<v Speaker 1>it should. It should have been, like that's the whole thing.

0:29:49.280 --> 0:29:53.040
<v Speaker 1>It's a killer psychic samurai with a real I think

0:29:53.080 --> 0:29:56.240
<v Speaker 1>it's supposed to be real or it becomes real katana.

0:29:56.560 --> 0:29:59.120
<v Speaker 1>So when things actually get going in the movie with

0:29:59.120 --> 0:30:02.200
<v Speaker 1>with live action, and we see shots of a peaceful

0:30:02.280 --> 0:30:04.720
<v Speaker 1>forest in winter and you've got you know, the trees

0:30:04.760 --> 0:30:07.840
<v Speaker 1>are bear dead, leaves covering the land, and we see

0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:11.320
<v Speaker 1>an icy stream winding its way through moss covered rocks

0:30:11.360 --> 0:30:15.960
<v Speaker 1>and fallen limbs. It's very nice, but then also really loud,

0:30:16.160 --> 0:30:21.160
<v Speaker 1>intrusive synth melodies of a kind of nursery rhyme music

0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:25.360
<v Speaker 1>box of variety. And then we see a hunter. So

0:30:25.520 --> 0:30:28.560
<v Speaker 1>he's this figure creeping through the forest at a rapid

0:30:28.600 --> 0:30:32.240
<v Speaker 1>pace and he's wearing camo heavy leather boots. Uh. He's

0:30:32.280 --> 0:30:36.600
<v Speaker 1>carrying a big compound bow and he's listening to a walkman.

0:30:36.720 --> 0:30:40.160
<v Speaker 1>He's got like a portable cassette player with headphones. Is

0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:43.400
<v Speaker 1>that normal for hunters? Maybe? I don't know. I mean,

0:30:43.560 --> 0:30:46.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean what one imagines it's Aureo Speedwagon playing on

0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:50.000
<v Speaker 1>the walkman, I don't know why. No, I think it's

0:30:50.160 --> 0:30:53.160
<v Speaker 1>diagetic music. He's listening to the boing boying music. That's

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:56.120
<v Speaker 1>where I was coming from. And so we see him.

0:30:56.160 --> 0:30:58.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, he catches sight of something, he kneels, he

0:30:58.600 --> 0:31:01.320
<v Speaker 1>draws back an arrow, he's shoots at something, and then

0:31:01.480 --> 0:31:06.080
<v Speaker 1>you know the to he clearly he made the kill. Uh.

0:31:06.120 --> 0:31:08.800
<v Speaker 1>So we cut straight to a pickup truck arriving back

0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:12.680
<v Speaker 1>home at a house kind of like a farmhouse out

0:31:12.680 --> 0:31:17.480
<v Speaker 1>in the the frozen waste land of Wisconsin. And there's

0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:20.000
<v Speaker 1>a woman in a colorful shawl standing in the doorway.

0:31:20.120 --> 0:31:23.480
<v Speaker 1>So this is Kathy. This is the mom. And everything

0:31:23.560 --> 0:31:25.960
<v Speaker 1>up to this point has had kind of a strange,

0:31:26.040 --> 0:31:29.040
<v Speaker 1>ominous tone, but it's very much broken when the hunter,

0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:32.200
<v Speaker 1>who turns out to be her boyfriend Gary, starts talking.

0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:35.760
<v Speaker 1>He gets out of the car, and then he's immediately

0:31:35.800 --> 0:31:39.920
<v Speaker 1>he has the energy of a kid wanting to show

0:31:39.960 --> 0:31:43.240
<v Speaker 1>you the four they made in the woods. He's like,

0:31:43.280 --> 0:31:46.480
<v Speaker 1>all right, honey, I got one. Come look, and he's

0:31:46.680 --> 0:31:50.440
<v Speaker 1>like bent over and running around real fast. And so

0:31:50.520 --> 0:31:52.320
<v Speaker 1>Cathy comes to look at the deer in the bed

0:31:52.320 --> 0:31:54.840
<v Speaker 1>of the pickup truck. But then she immediately has some

0:31:54.920 --> 0:31:59.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of psychic reaction, and you know, she's like oh,

0:31:59.200 --> 0:32:01.880
<v Speaker 1>and she backs up and and he's all, you know,

0:32:02.000 --> 0:32:04.000
<v Speaker 1>startled by this. He's like, hey, you know you've seen

0:32:04.040 --> 0:32:06.280
<v Speaker 1>me show up with lots of dead deer before. Is

0:32:06.280 --> 0:32:10.080
<v Speaker 1>is this a migraine? And she seems to agree, um,

0:32:10.120 --> 0:32:12.240
<v Speaker 1>And they go back inside and there's a nice little

0:32:12.240 --> 0:32:16.440
<v Speaker 1>breakfast table scene, though in the first of many this

0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:20.400
<v Speaker 1>will be the scene will be strangely accented by classical

0:32:20.600 --> 0:32:24.560
<v Speaker 1>strings apparently playing on the radio. Uh. And then in

0:32:24.600 --> 0:32:27.400
<v Speaker 1>the foreground will get a strong performance by a box

0:32:27.400 --> 0:32:30.760
<v Speaker 1>of Kellogg's All brand and a prominent tub of Skippy,

0:32:30.840 --> 0:32:33.400
<v Speaker 1>which I think is peanut butter. Now do you present

0:32:33.440 --> 0:32:35.320
<v Speaker 1>me with a still of this thing? This is a

0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:37.720
<v Speaker 1>complete breakfast he's about to have there. It looks like

0:32:37.800 --> 0:32:43.160
<v Speaker 1>two slabs of keish on a plate, multiple bowls are prepared,

0:32:43.560 --> 0:32:47.600
<v Speaker 1>multiple uh mugs and cups are arranged around him like

0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:50.400
<v Speaker 1>this is this is quite a spread. That's not even

0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:53.440
<v Speaker 1>the whole, that's just at Gary's place at the table.

0:32:53.600 --> 0:32:57.200
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it looks like Gary is having waffles, keysh tu,

0:32:57.280 --> 0:33:01.040
<v Speaker 1>bowls of cereal, two cups of coffee, maybe a bowl

0:33:01.080 --> 0:33:05.239
<v Speaker 1>of peanut butter. I'm not sure, but so anyway, this

0:33:05.320 --> 0:33:07.720
<v Speaker 1>is Kathy and Gary the hunter is is the boyfriend

0:33:07.760 --> 0:33:10.440
<v Speaker 1>Gary and uh that we we find out. The situation

0:33:10.520 --> 0:33:12.560
<v Speaker 1>is they're about to have Kathy's kids up to visit

0:33:12.560 --> 0:33:16.040
<v Speaker 1>the house for Christmas, and Gary wants to surprise the

0:33:16.080 --> 0:33:18.720
<v Speaker 1>kids by telling them that he and Kathy are going

0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:21.680
<v Speaker 1>to get married. He's he's he's being all sweet, but

0:33:21.800 --> 0:33:25.040
<v Speaker 1>Kathy is not in favor. She's like, I've told you

0:33:25.080 --> 0:33:27.280
<v Speaker 1>so many times, I don't want to get married again.

0:33:27.880 --> 0:33:30.680
<v Speaker 1>And then this makes Gary upset and he goes outside

0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:33.240
<v Speaker 1>to gutt a deer. Warning by the way, I mean,

0:33:33.280 --> 0:33:35.360
<v Speaker 1>obviously this is an O rated movie with all kinds

0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:39.280
<v Speaker 1>of content, but if you're bothered by realistic looking depictions

0:33:39.280 --> 0:33:42.800
<v Speaker 1>of animal gutting, this looks like a real deer gutting

0:33:42.800 --> 0:33:45.080
<v Speaker 1>to me, Yeah, yeah, this this looks like a real

0:33:45.160 --> 0:33:47.320
<v Speaker 1>dead dear. So he's out doing that. And then some

0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:50.400
<v Speaker 1>kids arrive. Now at first I could not tell who

0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:54.560
<v Speaker 1>was who. Who were Kathy's kids? Um, but so Kathy's

0:33:54.640 --> 0:33:58.360
<v Speaker 1>kids are the son named Ted and then the daughter

0:33:58.440 --> 0:34:01.480
<v Speaker 1>named Dolly. And then it's also Sarah in the car,

0:34:01.520 --> 0:34:04.720
<v Speaker 1>who is Ted's. He introduces her as his friend. She's

0:34:04.640 --> 0:34:08.160
<v Speaker 1>a girlfriend. And so they arrived to find Gary gutting

0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:10.960
<v Speaker 1>the deer. And then he's all excited to see them

0:34:11.040 --> 0:34:13.520
<v Speaker 1>arrive and he just hugs him without washing his hands.

0:34:13.560 --> 0:34:18.080
<v Speaker 1>He's just got deer guts everywhere and he's just grabbing them. Um.

0:34:18.680 --> 0:34:20.600
<v Speaker 1>I've got multiple stills of that for you to look

0:34:20.640 --> 0:34:22.920
<v Speaker 1>at here Rob with the deer hanging in the background

0:34:23.000 --> 0:34:25.160
<v Speaker 1>and him being like, oh so good to see. You're

0:34:25.160 --> 0:34:29.200
<v Speaker 1>just getting blood on their coats. And from like I said,

0:34:29.200 --> 0:34:32.560
<v Speaker 1>from the moment we meet Sarah, she seems totally uncomfortable.

0:34:32.719 --> 0:34:36.239
<v Speaker 1>She she's making the face and uh, it's kind of

0:34:36.320 --> 0:34:41.560
<v Speaker 1>Marge Simpson noise. Uh energy and uh and oh boy,

0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:46.360
<v Speaker 1>just from from the first moment of contact between Sarah

0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:50.480
<v Speaker 1>and Cathy, there is some kind of psychic friction, like

0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:53.400
<v Speaker 1>they meet face to face, and then these Geiger counter

0:34:53.520 --> 0:34:57.439
<v Speaker 1>sound effects start firing off. So so at this point

0:34:57.440 --> 0:34:59.000
<v Speaker 1>I was like, Okay, it looks like we have at

0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:02.480
<v Speaker 1>least two I get characters here, or at least the

0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:07.080
<v Speaker 1>mom is psychic and senses something about the new girlfriend. Right,

0:35:07.120 --> 0:35:09.960
<v Speaker 1>And then this is great too, because it's like the

0:35:10.200 --> 0:35:14.279
<v Speaker 1>movie is saying mom does not trust your girlfriend, and

0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:17.600
<v Speaker 1>and it's also saying your girlfriend is highly suspicious of

0:35:17.600 --> 0:35:21.879
<v Speaker 1>your mom. And uh And I think these two feelings

0:35:21.920 --> 0:35:25.239
<v Speaker 1>and vary variations on them will ring true to a

0:35:25.239 --> 0:35:27.080
<v Speaker 1>lot of people, you know, especially when you're dealing with

0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:31.000
<v Speaker 1>a first of family meeting like this. It's what this

0:35:31.040 --> 0:35:34.640
<v Speaker 1>movie lacks in many kinds of very similitude. It does

0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:40.960
<v Speaker 1>achieve awkward family gathering very similitude. So they go inside

0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:43.640
<v Speaker 1>and Gary's washing the mammal guts off his hands after

0:35:43.719 --> 0:35:46.200
<v Speaker 1>he's touched like four people at least, and then uh

0:35:46.400 --> 0:35:49.439
<v Speaker 1>Ted is showing Sarah around the house and he's like, oh,

0:35:49.640 --> 0:35:52.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, you've got the Christmas tree, You've got his gun.

0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:56.400
<v Speaker 1>He's like, here's my gun. And then you've got Cathy's

0:35:56.480 --> 0:36:00.319
<v Speaker 1>unsettling abstract paintings all over the walls that look like

0:36:00.640 --> 0:36:05.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, bloodstains and and uh rifts in the subconscious

0:36:05.200 --> 0:36:08.200
<v Speaker 1>and uh you know, fissures out of which demons erupt.

0:36:08.719 --> 0:36:13.480
<v Speaker 1>And again we see some kind of intangible uh mind

0:36:13.560 --> 0:36:17.120
<v Speaker 1>connection between Kathy and Sarah, because Sarah looks at Kathy's

0:36:17.160 --> 0:36:21.839
<v Speaker 1>paintings and she's she's kind of spacing out staring at them. Yeah,

0:36:21.880 --> 0:36:25.360
<v Speaker 1>and there's some nice, almost like Dario Argento esque shots

0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:29.640
<v Speaker 1>of her, like staring with the painting frame behind her. Um,

0:36:29.680 --> 0:36:31.480
<v Speaker 1>you know. And I guess it's accentuated too by this

0:36:31.600 --> 0:36:35.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of like early eighties hairstyle, etcetera. Right, And so

0:36:35.640 --> 0:36:39.279
<v Speaker 1>Ted's over here obliviously fiddling with his rifle. I don't

0:36:39.280 --> 0:36:42.000
<v Speaker 1>know why he's doing that. And he's complaining that he

0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:44.520
<v Speaker 1>doesn't get to do any hunting when he's away at school.

0:36:44.600 --> 0:36:47.560
<v Speaker 1>So I guess he's supposed to be in college, I think, yeah,

0:36:47.640 --> 0:36:49.480
<v Speaker 1>And he's just you know, he's excited to be home

0:36:49.560 --> 0:36:52.680
<v Speaker 1>where with Gary. Anyway, it seems like it's just hunting,

0:36:53.680 --> 0:36:56.879
<v Speaker 1>Like he's been out hunting all morning and he's gonna

0:36:56.960 --> 0:36:59.120
<v Speaker 1>go do it again. You know, there's those shirts that

0:36:59.160 --> 0:37:02.239
<v Speaker 1>say I'd rather be fishing. Ted's would say, I'd rather

0:37:02.280 --> 0:37:06.720
<v Speaker 1>be hunting with mom's boyfriend. But then things start getting

0:37:06.760 --> 0:37:09.680
<v Speaker 1>strange because there is a present waiting for Sarah under

0:37:09.680 --> 0:37:12.839
<v Speaker 1>the Christmas tree. But how could that be because Ted

0:37:12.920 --> 0:37:15.480
<v Speaker 1>didn't tell anyone about Sarah. They didn't know about her,

0:37:15.520 --> 0:37:17.520
<v Speaker 1>they didn't know she was coming. So how did Kathy

0:37:17.600 --> 0:37:20.280
<v Speaker 1>know to get her a present? Well, Kathy just says

0:37:20.680 --> 0:37:25.160
<v Speaker 1>a mother knows everything, and everybody's like, well, okay, is

0:37:25.160 --> 0:37:26.920
<v Speaker 1>there ever any payoff with that? Do we find out

0:37:26.960 --> 0:37:30.760
<v Speaker 1>what the gift was? I don't think so. No, unless

0:37:30.800 --> 0:37:33.799
<v Speaker 1>it was the samurai armor that shows up later. I mean,

0:37:33.840 --> 0:37:36.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean watching this film, I'm guessing it's

0:37:36.120 --> 0:37:38.360
<v Speaker 1>just like Bath and body Works soap, you know, some

0:37:38.440 --> 0:37:41.839
<v Speaker 1>sort of just just generic soap gift that mom had

0:37:41.880 --> 0:37:44.200
<v Speaker 1>on hand, and she's just covering it's like, oh, yeah,

0:37:44.200 --> 0:37:46.560
<v Speaker 1>I got your gift. It's like a dull version of

0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:50.399
<v Speaker 1>Sarah with a bunch of needles stuck in it. That yeah,

0:37:50.520 --> 0:37:53.480
<v Speaker 1>one of the two extremes. Things just keep getting weirder though.

0:37:53.480 --> 0:37:58.080
<v Speaker 1>So Ted is showing uh Sarah to the guest room,

0:37:58.239 --> 0:38:01.080
<v Speaker 1>and well, so, first all I gotta say about this room,

0:38:01.120 --> 0:38:03.560
<v Speaker 1>this is something I never figured out The whole movie.

0:38:04.440 --> 0:38:08.520
<v Speaker 1>Is there just this narrow pole running from floor to

0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:12.279
<v Speaker 1>ceiling in the middle of this room. There are some

0:38:12.960 --> 0:38:17.480
<v Speaker 1>interesting um features in this house that become apparent in

0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:20.600
<v Speaker 1>some shots that make me wonder about like the era

0:38:20.640 --> 0:38:22.680
<v Speaker 1>idea in which this house was built, or just sort

0:38:22.680 --> 0:38:26.359
<v Speaker 1>of like older Wisconsin houses in general. Because there's one

0:38:26.440 --> 0:38:29.359
<v Speaker 1>where we clearly see some sort of event on the

0:38:29.400 --> 0:38:33.160
<v Speaker 1>floor that that I guess opens up into the room

0:38:33.239 --> 0:38:35.920
<v Speaker 1>beneath it, as if they were like vents included to

0:38:35.960 --> 0:38:38.120
<v Speaker 1>make sure that heat rose like through the floor into

0:38:38.160 --> 0:38:41.400
<v Speaker 1>the upper floor. So I don't know, people who live

0:38:41.440 --> 0:38:44.160
<v Speaker 1>in old Wisconsin creepy houses right in and let us

0:38:44.160 --> 0:38:46.239
<v Speaker 1>know what some of this is about. I don't know

0:38:46.280 --> 0:38:49.200
<v Speaker 1>what this pole is because it doesn't look wide enough

0:38:49.239 --> 0:38:52.080
<v Speaker 1>to be a load bearing pole. It looks it's like

0:38:52.160 --> 0:38:56.320
<v Speaker 1>about the diameter of like a length of rebar, except

0:38:56.320 --> 0:38:58.880
<v Speaker 1>it goes from the floor to the ceiling right in

0:38:58.920 --> 0:39:00.520
<v Speaker 1>the middle of the room like it like he would

0:39:00.560 --> 0:39:02.279
<v Speaker 1>run straight into it getting up to go to the

0:39:02.320 --> 0:39:05.480
<v Speaker 1>bathroom in the night. I mean, I only guess is

0:39:05.520 --> 0:39:08.560
<v Speaker 1>some sort of like temporary support strut for a ceiling

0:39:08.600 --> 0:39:11.600
<v Speaker 1>that needs to be repaired, and maybe they were shooting

0:39:11.640 --> 0:39:14.320
<v Speaker 1>in an old house. I don't know. Yeah. Well, anyway,

0:39:14.400 --> 0:39:17.040
<v Speaker 1>once we're in the room, Sarah starts having hallucinations. She's

0:39:17.080 --> 0:39:22.399
<v Speaker 1>seeing everything in like in photo negative, these rose colored textures,

0:39:22.800 --> 0:39:27.360
<v Speaker 1>and she's I think, hallucinating the sound of a baby crying. Meanwhile,

0:39:27.440 --> 0:39:30.440
<v Speaker 1>Ted is telling this weird story in the background about

0:39:30.520 --> 0:39:33.120
<v Speaker 1>how did you want? So? I think he says, there

0:39:33.200 --> 0:39:36.040
<v Speaker 1>used to be a friend of Cathy's who lived in

0:39:36.120 --> 0:39:39.880
<v Speaker 1>this room, and he says, quote, he was some psychoanalyst

0:39:40.040 --> 0:39:43.359
<v Speaker 1>or something like that meditation he called it. One day

0:39:43.360 --> 0:39:45.960
<v Speaker 1>he just packed up and left just a few lines

0:39:46.000 --> 0:39:48.680
<v Speaker 1>on a piece of paper and that was it. Uh

0:39:48.719 --> 0:39:51.359
<v Speaker 1>And I don't think we ever get any more explanation

0:39:51.440 --> 0:39:53.520
<v Speaker 1>about that, or that it ever comes up again. But

0:39:53.560 --> 0:39:55.920
<v Speaker 1>it makes me wonder, what is this guy connected to

0:39:56.000 --> 0:39:59.520
<v Speaker 1>the samurai at all? This movie loves to throw out

0:40:00.280 --> 0:40:03.799
<v Speaker 1>cantalizing clues that are never enough for us to form

0:40:03.840 --> 0:40:08.160
<v Speaker 1>any kind of concrete hypothesis about what's what's going on,

0:40:08.560 --> 0:40:10.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, like it's just enough to make you think, well,

0:40:10.920 --> 0:40:14.839
<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe the director writer here does know what all

0:40:14.920 --> 0:40:18.240
<v Speaker 1>this connects to, but also makes you suspect that perhaps

0:40:18.440 --> 0:40:22.320
<v Speaker 1>he does not. Yeah, uh so Ted and Sarah they

0:40:22.360 --> 0:40:26.279
<v Speaker 1>get into an uncomfortable makeout session, and then uh, they

0:40:26.320 --> 0:40:29.120
<v Speaker 1>start having a conversation in the middle of that about

0:40:29.200 --> 0:40:33.239
<v Speaker 1>how Sarah's like, your mom is making me uncomfortable. It's

0:40:33.280 --> 0:40:35.919
<v Speaker 1>like she's in the room right now with us, and

0:40:36.000 --> 0:40:39.480
<v Speaker 1>Ted's like, ah, that's ridiculous. She's she's painting. She's off

0:40:39.480 --> 0:40:44.000
<v Speaker 1>painting somewhere. And meanwhile, it keeps hilariously cutting to Kathy

0:40:44.080 --> 0:40:47.960
<v Speaker 1>in her art studio, just making the psychic hour glass

0:40:48.000 --> 0:40:51.320
<v Speaker 1>cursor face. You know, she's just in an error message mode.

0:40:52.200 --> 0:40:55.440
<v Speaker 1>I guess, presumably psychically spying on that. I don't know.

0:40:55.560 --> 0:40:58.000
<v Speaker 1>So I think one of the lessons of this movie

0:40:58.080 --> 0:41:00.800
<v Speaker 1>is that if your boyfriend is ever like, don't worry,

0:41:01.000 --> 0:41:02.960
<v Speaker 1>my mom is not spying on us right now with

0:41:03.040 --> 0:41:06.239
<v Speaker 1>Stargate brain, don't believe him. That's right. Yeah, I mean,

0:41:06.239 --> 0:41:09.600
<v Speaker 1>for all its pretensions, of this movie is about the

0:41:09.600 --> 0:41:11.799
<v Speaker 1>fear that mom can hear you and your girlfriend making

0:41:11.840 --> 0:41:15.080
<v Speaker 1>out in your old room. But I think this is

0:41:15.120 --> 0:41:18.320
<v Speaker 1>the point where we cut to some driving. Right, oh yeah, beauty.

0:41:18.440 --> 0:41:21.319
<v Speaker 1>So it's just like, okay, next day, how about next day? Uh?

0:41:21.320 --> 0:41:24.200
<v Speaker 1>And the next morning we see a truck. At first,

0:41:24.239 --> 0:41:26.919
<v Speaker 1>I thought this was Gary, but it's not Gary. It's

0:41:26.920 --> 0:41:30.080
<v Speaker 1>somebody else driving a pickup truck with a camper top

0:41:30.160 --> 0:41:33.800
<v Speaker 1>on it. Uh, just flooring it. They're like on the radio.

0:41:34.200 --> 0:41:36.360
<v Speaker 1>I think they're on a CBE saying red baron the

0:41:36.440 --> 0:41:38.640
<v Speaker 1>lone Painter. I don't know what any of this means,

0:41:39.120 --> 0:41:42.360
<v Speaker 1>but we see the truck is literally getting like air

0:41:42.400 --> 0:41:45.560
<v Speaker 1>time going over hills. It's like flying up off as

0:41:45.600 --> 0:41:49.160
<v Speaker 1>if off of a ramp. Yeah, it's just a totally

0:41:49.280 --> 0:41:53.319
<v Speaker 1>unnecessary vehicular stunt, just thrown in. Like there's I mean,

0:41:53.360 --> 0:41:55.839
<v Speaker 1>we get that that Uncle Pete is eager to get

0:41:55.880 --> 0:41:58.120
<v Speaker 1>to the hunt, like somewhere a deer is breathing and

0:41:58.160 --> 0:42:01.399
<v Speaker 1>it must be hunted. Um and and hunting is all

0:42:01.400 --> 0:42:04.480
<v Speaker 1>the fun in these parts. But was it necessary for

0:42:04.520 --> 0:42:07.640
<v Speaker 1>the truck to be airborne? Very good? Yeah, I don't know.

0:42:07.719 --> 0:42:11.560
<v Speaker 1>This movie in general does a bizarre job of introducing

0:42:11.600 --> 0:42:15.800
<v Speaker 1>the character of Uncle Pete because you meet him without

0:42:15.840 --> 0:42:17.840
<v Speaker 1>seeing his face. You just hear his voice and you

0:42:17.880 --> 0:42:20.600
<v Speaker 1>see his car, and then you never see his face

0:42:20.680 --> 0:42:23.840
<v Speaker 1>until minutes later, Like the characters talk about him arriving,

0:42:23.920 --> 0:42:26.480
<v Speaker 1>and he arrives, but you never get a close shot

0:42:26.520 --> 0:42:29.000
<v Speaker 1>of him. And then in the next scene. He's just

0:42:29.040 --> 0:42:31.040
<v Speaker 1>sort of in it. But like usually when there's a

0:42:31.040 --> 0:42:33.000
<v Speaker 1>new character, you will get a head on shot of

0:42:33.040 --> 0:42:35.040
<v Speaker 1>it so you can see their face and what they

0:42:35.080 --> 0:42:37.920
<v Speaker 1>look like. This movie, nope, it is just okay, Uncle

0:42:37.920 --> 0:42:39.839
<v Speaker 1>Pete's in the mix. Now. I guess you'll figure out

0:42:39.880 --> 0:42:42.080
<v Speaker 1>which one he is. Yeah, they don't really make you

0:42:42.640 --> 0:42:45.560
<v Speaker 1>anticipate Uncle Pete in anyway. You're not really looking forward

0:42:45.600 --> 0:42:47.480
<v Speaker 1>to meeting him. There's not you know, there's no stories

0:42:47.520 --> 0:42:50.840
<v Speaker 1>about him. Um. I mean, he clearly really floors it

0:42:51.120 --> 0:42:53.879
<v Speaker 1>when he's driving around, but aside from that, there's nothing

0:42:53.880 --> 0:42:55.440
<v Speaker 1>to really make you want to meet him. And then

0:42:55.480 --> 0:42:57.680
<v Speaker 1>when he shows up, there's not really any fan fare either.

0:42:58.239 --> 0:43:01.480
<v Speaker 1>But so you're right, Uncle Pete is. He's he's obsessed

0:43:01.520 --> 0:43:03.560
<v Speaker 1>with deer hunting apparently, so they all want to go

0:43:03.600 --> 0:43:05.680
<v Speaker 1>out hunting in the woods, and they do. I think

0:43:05.719 --> 0:43:10.600
<v Speaker 1>basically everybody except Kathie the mom goes deer hunting. Um.

0:43:10.680 --> 0:43:13.160
<v Speaker 1>And there were some I gotta admit, I don't know

0:43:13.239 --> 0:43:15.360
<v Speaker 1>much about hunting. I've never been hunting, and so I

0:43:16.000 --> 0:43:18.400
<v Speaker 1>clearly don't have any expertise. But some things about this

0:43:18.440 --> 0:43:22.239
<v Speaker 1>seemed implausible to me, Like is it normal to go

0:43:22.360 --> 0:43:26.080
<v Speaker 1>bow hunting on horseback in the woods, and where did

0:43:26.080 --> 0:43:29.960
<v Speaker 1>all the horses come from? And uh, if there's a

0:43:29.960 --> 0:43:31.680
<v Speaker 1>part where they have to be like crawling on their

0:43:31.719 --> 0:43:34.680
<v Speaker 1>bellies under barbed wire fences, which makes me think are

0:43:34.719 --> 0:43:38.200
<v Speaker 1>they supposed to be there? Maybe they're trespassing. Uh And

0:43:38.440 --> 0:43:40.400
<v Speaker 1>I could be wrong, but it looked like one character

0:43:40.560 --> 0:43:44.239
<v Speaker 1>is carrying a lever action rifle. Is that normal for

0:43:44.360 --> 0:43:47.319
<v Speaker 1>deer hunting? And I don't know, Yeah, like they're they're

0:43:47.320 --> 0:43:50.520
<v Speaker 1>doing a mix of of bow hunting and rifle hunting

0:43:50.560 --> 0:43:52.960
<v Speaker 1>for the deer, which yeah, I guess could be a thing.

0:43:53.000 --> 0:43:55.680
<v Speaker 1>But I always again, I grew up with bows and

0:43:56.280 --> 0:43:59.200
<v Speaker 1>rifles around, but I never went hunting. But I remember,

0:43:59.239 --> 0:44:01.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, you would have the like bow hunting season

0:44:01.360 --> 0:44:04.440
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, musket ball season or whatever, and then there's rifles.

0:44:04.640 --> 0:44:07.880
<v Speaker 1>Like so I was under the assumption that like that,

0:44:08.040 --> 0:44:10.799
<v Speaker 1>like bow and rifle hunters would not just mix like this,

0:44:11.000 --> 0:44:13.040
<v Speaker 1>that you're either going to do one or the other.

0:44:13.320 --> 0:44:16.280
<v Speaker 1>Well not just they're not just in the same hunting party.

0:44:16.800 --> 0:44:19.799
<v Speaker 1>There's when they draw a bead on a deer. There's

0:44:19.800 --> 0:44:22.799
<v Speaker 1>a scene of all four hunters aiming at the same deer.

0:44:22.840 --> 0:44:26.279
<v Speaker 1>So two bows and two rifles all drawn down on

0:44:26.320 --> 0:44:29.279
<v Speaker 1>this one dough. It's it's enough to it's it's enough

0:44:29.280 --> 0:44:30.839
<v Speaker 1>to make you wonder, like if this is a case

0:44:30.920 --> 0:44:33.640
<v Speaker 1>of like an outsider, you know, in this case, a

0:44:33.680 --> 0:44:37.239
<v Speaker 1>French director trying to figure out what would be the

0:44:37.280 --> 0:44:42.919
<v Speaker 1>authentic Wisconsin, um, you know, slice of life scenario and

0:44:43.239 --> 0:44:46.240
<v Speaker 1>getting some things right, but maybe getting some things wrong

0:44:46.320 --> 0:44:48.320
<v Speaker 1>just because you know, just coming at it from a

0:44:48.640 --> 0:44:51.800
<v Speaker 1>from an outsider perspective. Well, I mean, I gotta admit again,

0:44:51.840 --> 0:44:53.959
<v Speaker 1>I like, I don't really know anything about hunting. Maybe

0:44:53.960 --> 0:44:56.600
<v Speaker 1>you would do this, but it certainly looked weird having

0:44:56.600 --> 0:45:00.719
<v Speaker 1>this like four person firing squad for deer. Yeah, so

0:45:00.760 --> 0:45:02.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know hunters right in and let us know.

0:45:02.880 --> 0:45:06.320
<v Speaker 1>But but we're focusing on the you know, the details

0:45:06.360 --> 0:45:09.120
<v Speaker 1>of the hunt here. But this is also one of

0:45:09.160 --> 0:45:12.080
<v Speaker 1>the best sequences in the film, uh, at least a

0:45:12.280 --> 0:45:16.360
<v Speaker 1>genuinely building up suspense because poor Sarah has been brought

0:45:16.360 --> 0:45:18.680
<v Speaker 1>on this this trip. I think a lot of us

0:45:18.719 --> 0:45:21.239
<v Speaker 1>can can sympathize with her, you know. Here she's she's

0:45:21.440 --> 0:45:24.839
<v Speaker 1>she's hanging out with um, with this family that she's

0:45:24.880 --> 0:45:27.719
<v Speaker 1>only just met, and they've brought her now on a

0:45:27.800 --> 0:45:31.799
<v Speaker 1>hunting trip, and she's she's uncomfortable. Uh, she doesn't want

0:45:31.800 --> 0:45:35.120
<v Speaker 1>to be there. She she definitely does not want to

0:45:35.120 --> 0:45:38.520
<v Speaker 1>shoot a deer. Uh. But yet here she is, and

0:45:38.760 --> 0:45:41.319
<v Speaker 1>we hear that music building up, right, and we hear

0:45:41.360 --> 0:45:44.719
<v Speaker 1>that heartbeat, that blood beat. Uh, and it I felt

0:45:44.719 --> 0:45:47.600
<v Speaker 1>like it genuinely built up tension in a nice way. Yeah,

0:45:47.600 --> 0:45:49.600
<v Speaker 1>she well, she's gone from This is one of her

0:45:49.640 --> 0:45:53.960
<v Speaker 1>few scenes where she's not extremely apprehensive and instead she

0:45:54.160 --> 0:45:59.520
<v Speaker 1>here I would say she looks soul annihilating, lee bored Uh,

0:45:59.760 --> 0:46:03.080
<v Speaker 1>just like she's staring into space with uh, you know,

0:46:03.160 --> 0:46:05.880
<v Speaker 1>the expression of having been waiting in line at a

0:46:05.920 --> 0:46:09.919
<v Speaker 1>bank for seven hours. Well, I think that's and that's

0:46:09.920 --> 0:46:13.120
<v Speaker 1>probably what hunting is like if you're not really into it, right,

0:46:13.320 --> 0:46:15.640
<v Speaker 1>It is a lot of waiting around. I understand. Yes,

0:46:15.719 --> 0:46:18.200
<v Speaker 1>I can imagine if you're not into it, it it would

0:46:18.200 --> 0:46:20.760
<v Speaker 1>be quite boring. But but she goes from the boredom

0:46:20.840 --> 0:46:23.240
<v Speaker 1>to like you're saying, when they're drawing down on this

0:46:23.239 --> 0:46:25.960
<v Speaker 1>this deer, you know, yeah, it builds up the tension.

0:46:26.320 --> 0:46:30.160
<v Speaker 1>There's the heartbeat sound effect and and uh and and

0:46:30.280 --> 0:46:32.400
<v Speaker 1>like you say this, the sequence is quite good. But

0:46:32.440 --> 0:46:36.239
<v Speaker 1>then right before they shoot, Sarah suddenly stands up. She

0:46:36.400 --> 0:46:39.840
<v Speaker 1>turns green and red. She screams, and they all miss

0:46:39.880 --> 0:46:44.080
<v Speaker 1>and then she runs away. So immediately everybody is like

0:46:44.200 --> 0:46:47.160
<v Speaker 1>Uncle Pete's mad. And then Ted goes running off after her,

0:46:47.719 --> 0:46:51.200
<v Speaker 1>and she sort of meanders through the woods until I

0:46:51.200 --> 0:46:52.840
<v Speaker 1>had to rewind this part. I was like, did I

0:46:52.880 --> 0:46:56.840
<v Speaker 1>miss something? But no, she just randomly collides with another

0:46:56.880 --> 0:46:59.400
<v Speaker 1>guy that we have not met before. Am I correct?

0:46:59.520 --> 0:47:01.680
<v Speaker 1>This is a toe rely new character, right, I had

0:47:01.680 --> 0:47:03.479
<v Speaker 1>to do the same thing. I thought I'd missed something

0:47:03.480 --> 0:47:05.280
<v Speaker 1>that I was looking down at my screen or something,

0:47:05.840 --> 0:47:07.360
<v Speaker 1>so I backed it up as well. But no, she

0:47:07.400 --> 0:47:10.040
<v Speaker 1>just suddenly runs into a guy, a totally new character,

0:47:10.120 --> 0:47:12.920
<v Speaker 1>but but very much dressed like all the other locals. Yes,

0:47:13.040 --> 0:47:15.040
<v Speaker 1>but he but this guy but he's not like a

0:47:15.040 --> 0:47:17.680
<v Speaker 1>new character we're about to meet. He's dying, so he's

0:47:17.680 --> 0:47:20.839
<v Speaker 1>been gutted, but somebody turned his stomach into a jack

0:47:20.920 --> 0:47:24.040
<v Speaker 1>O lantern and he's covered in blood. And I guess,

0:47:24.040 --> 0:47:26.480
<v Speaker 1>for the second time today, Sarah is going to get

0:47:26.480 --> 0:47:29.240
<v Speaker 1>a man with bloody hands just like grabbing her jacket

0:47:30.200 --> 0:47:33.399
<v Speaker 1>and uh. And then so this guy just dies there.

0:47:33.440 --> 0:47:36.120
<v Speaker 1>He just kind of looks like a a blonder Robert

0:47:36.160 --> 0:47:39.920
<v Speaker 1>Redford ish kind of guy. Uh, and he's dead there

0:47:39.920 --> 0:47:42.160
<v Speaker 1>on the fourth floor. Oh and then there's a there's

0:47:42.200 --> 0:47:44.080
<v Speaker 1>a scene with the cops that I thought was funny

0:47:44.120 --> 0:47:46.440
<v Speaker 1>because really the only thing that happens in it is

0:47:46.480 --> 0:47:49.840
<v Speaker 1>they just repeatedly established that nobody knew who this guy was,

0:47:51.239 --> 0:47:54.960
<v Speaker 1>which seems weird, right, Like that just raises more questions. Um,

0:47:55.000 --> 0:47:57.200
<v Speaker 1>I guess maybe it's you don't have to spend as

0:47:57.280 --> 0:48:00.319
<v Speaker 1>much dialogue establishing the fact. But so anyway, they get

0:48:00.360 --> 0:48:04.000
<v Speaker 1>back home and then uh, there there is mounting tension

0:48:04.080 --> 0:48:07.600
<v Speaker 1>with the family because, as with the earlier scenes, Sarah

0:48:07.640 --> 0:48:11.200
<v Speaker 1>is bothered by uh, well by the experience in the woods,

0:48:11.239 --> 0:48:15.360
<v Speaker 1>but then also by Ted's mother. He's you know, he's like, uh,

0:48:15.360 --> 0:48:17.640
<v Speaker 1>He's like, oh, don't worry about anything, But she's like, no,

0:48:17.840 --> 0:48:20.759
<v Speaker 1>your mother. She makes me uncomfortable. And I think she

0:48:20.840 --> 0:48:25.120
<v Speaker 1>thinks that Kathy is spying on her through the paintings

0:48:25.200 --> 0:48:28.880
<v Speaker 1>in the bedroom, like that the paintings function like psychic

0:48:28.960 --> 0:48:33.760
<v Speaker 1>CCTV cameras, and so she has Ted removed the paintings

0:48:33.800 --> 0:48:36.279
<v Speaker 1>from the bedroom. But then we find out that the

0:48:36.280 --> 0:48:39.720
<v Speaker 1>apprehension goes both ways. Because Ted goes down to Kathy's

0:48:39.760 --> 0:48:43.960
<v Speaker 1>painting studio and there Ted is having this conversation with

0:48:44.000 --> 0:48:47.239
<v Speaker 1>his mom and she warns him about Sarah. She's like,

0:48:47.480 --> 0:48:50.040
<v Speaker 1>I just want you to be careful. There's something about her.

0:48:50.200 --> 0:48:52.920
<v Speaker 1>I've seen her before. I don't understand it, but I

0:48:52.960 --> 0:48:57.560
<v Speaker 1>know her. Meanwhile, Gregorian chance in the background, and it's

0:48:57.560 --> 0:49:01.480
<v Speaker 1>another case of the hints set connections and never fully established,

0:49:02.760 --> 0:49:14.919
<v Speaker 1>but that keep us watching. Somewhere around here is where

0:49:14.960 --> 0:49:17.400
<v Speaker 1>there's a scene where Ted and Dolly are playing Monopoly,

0:49:17.560 --> 0:49:20.239
<v Speaker 1>but there's a cat lying on the monopoly board and

0:49:20.280 --> 0:49:23.600
<v Speaker 1>just flopping all around on it, which is excellent. Yep,

0:49:23.719 --> 0:49:26.600
<v Speaker 1>solid slice of life right there. But I think here

0:49:26.719 --> 0:49:29.600
<v Speaker 1>is the scene where the movie just starts to really

0:49:29.840 --> 0:49:33.000
<v Speaker 1>escalate the weirdness and sort of never stops until the end.

0:49:33.080 --> 0:49:38.600
<v Speaker 1>So here, uh, Sarah is lying in bed and Cathy's painting,

0:49:39.160 --> 0:49:43.680
<v Speaker 1>and simultaneously they start having psychic experiences. Like Cathy starts

0:49:43.680 --> 0:49:50.400
<v Speaker 1>having a Danny Torrence red Rum style psychic episode. She's like, uh,

0:49:50.440 --> 0:49:54.840
<v Speaker 1>sort of groaning and and wiggling and uh and drawing

0:49:54.920 --> 0:49:59.479
<v Speaker 1>uncontrollably on her on her on her canvas. I guess

0:49:59.520 --> 0:50:03.560
<v Speaker 1>with non dominant hand. And then meanwhile, uh, Sarah up

0:50:03.600 --> 0:50:06.480
<v Speaker 1>in the bedroom finds a treasure chest full of samurai

0:50:06.600 --> 0:50:09.879
<v Speaker 1>armor and a katana next to the bed and does

0:50:09.960 --> 0:50:12.239
<v Speaker 1>the thing that people always do in movies when they

0:50:12.320 --> 0:50:14.960
<v Speaker 1>find a blade, test to see if it's sharp and

0:50:15.000 --> 0:50:18.279
<v Speaker 1>cut their fingers. Why every movie? Why do people do this?

0:50:18.320 --> 0:50:21.720
<v Speaker 1>People don't do this very often in real life. Yeah,

0:50:22.760 --> 0:50:26.200
<v Speaker 1>it's uh, I mean, I think obviously from the movie perspective,

0:50:26.920 --> 0:50:28.719
<v Speaker 1>it's because you get to have a little blood in there,

0:50:28.800 --> 0:50:31.560
<v Speaker 1>and because it's the little things that we can feel.

0:50:32.080 --> 0:50:34.320
<v Speaker 1>Someone gets their arm lopped off with a samurai sword,

0:50:34.560 --> 0:50:36.760
<v Speaker 1>we can't compare to that. But if somebody like touches

0:50:36.760 --> 0:50:39.319
<v Speaker 1>the edge of it too much, um, you know, or

0:50:39.320 --> 0:50:41.800
<v Speaker 1>it gets a paper cut. Uh, you know, that cannick

0:50:41.920 --> 0:50:43.640
<v Speaker 1>us out. And so, you know, from is in a

0:50:43.640 --> 0:50:47.120
<v Speaker 1>way of like keeping the audience engaged and physically invested

0:50:47.120 --> 0:50:49.359
<v Speaker 1>in the film. It's a solid choice. But yeah, who

0:50:49.400 --> 0:50:51.840
<v Speaker 1>does this? Who picks up the sword and starts running

0:50:51.880 --> 0:50:54.080
<v Speaker 1>their finger across it? Well, I mean I can even

0:50:54.120 --> 0:50:56.000
<v Speaker 1>touch the blade of a knife to see how sharp

0:50:56.040 --> 0:50:58.960
<v Speaker 1>it is without cutting myself. That this is like I

0:50:58.960 --> 0:51:01.360
<v Speaker 1>would assume a skill. Anybody who can handle a knife.

0:51:01.360 --> 0:51:04.719
<v Speaker 1>Has but we have to remember, as as will soon

0:51:04.760 --> 0:51:07.800
<v Speaker 1>be established, this is a suit of armor that nobody

0:51:07.880 --> 0:51:10.880
<v Speaker 1>knew was in the house, perhaps wasn't in the house,

0:51:11.200 --> 0:51:16.840
<v Speaker 1>perhaps has been physically manifested by stuff that's happening now

0:51:17.520 --> 0:51:21.080
<v Speaker 1>involving these two psychic characters, or psychic storms going on

0:51:21.120 --> 0:51:24.319
<v Speaker 1>in the general vicinity, I don't know. And and then

0:51:24.400 --> 0:51:26.719
<v Speaker 1>the sequence just goes on for minutes at a time

0:51:26.760 --> 0:51:30.560
<v Speaker 1>of NonStop weirdness. Uh there's some strange I don't even

0:51:30.600 --> 0:51:34.120
<v Speaker 1>remember what's going on. There's a confrontation between Gary and

0:51:34.200 --> 0:51:36.239
<v Speaker 1>Cathy where he's like, what do you think I am?

0:51:36.360 --> 0:51:40.279
<v Speaker 1>Some piece of plastic? Uh? He says, I'm a simple man.

0:51:40.480 --> 0:51:43.120
<v Speaker 1>I need love and affection. Yeah. Yeah. This is the

0:51:43.160 --> 0:51:45.080
<v Speaker 1>section of the film where they decided we need to

0:51:45.120 --> 0:51:48.440
<v Speaker 1>explore their characters more. We need to get into uh

0:51:48.600 --> 0:51:52.200
<v Speaker 1>mom and Gary's relationship. Uh yeah. And then and this

0:51:52.239 --> 0:51:54.200
<v Speaker 1>is also one of those moments where he's he's he's

0:51:54.200 --> 0:51:56.640
<v Speaker 1>playing he's a bit over the top in his anger.

0:51:57.360 --> 0:51:59.720
<v Speaker 1>That feels out of keeping with his character as well

0:51:59.760 --> 0:52:02.839
<v Speaker 1>as his what he does afterwards, because he basically is like,

0:52:02.880 --> 0:52:06.520
<v Speaker 1>have a nice life, Kathy. Um. And then he storms out,

0:52:06.600 --> 0:52:09.000
<v Speaker 1>and you assume if you say something like that, like

0:52:09.040 --> 0:52:10.759
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna you're gonna get in the car and go.

0:52:11.000 --> 0:52:13.200
<v Speaker 1>But no, he goes into the living room, puts his

0:52:13.239 --> 0:52:15.920
<v Speaker 1>headphones on, and what starts playing a video game or

0:52:15.960 --> 0:52:18.960
<v Speaker 1>watching TV or just watching TVs, like watching a small

0:52:19.000 --> 0:52:22.239
<v Speaker 1>TV with headphones plugged into it. Like, like, is that

0:52:22.360 --> 0:52:23.960
<v Speaker 1>I think you have to leave the house after you

0:52:24.000 --> 0:52:25.920
<v Speaker 1>say those things? Gary, I don't think you can just

0:52:25.960 --> 0:52:28.560
<v Speaker 1>go watch television. Not only did he doesn't even leave,

0:52:28.680 --> 0:52:31.200
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't even go into a room by himself. He

0:52:31.200 --> 0:52:33.520
<v Speaker 1>goes into the room where everybody is sitting, and then

0:52:33.640 --> 0:52:37.120
<v Speaker 1>everybody sitting in the same room just doing their own thing,

0:52:37.280 --> 0:52:39.800
<v Speaker 1>and and there are shots of them just sitting around

0:52:39.800 --> 0:52:43.840
<v Speaker 1>on the couches and stuff and playing this derange string music. Yeah. Oh,

0:52:43.920 --> 0:52:46.400
<v Speaker 1>and then Kathy comes into It's like, so, whatever this

0:52:46.480 --> 0:52:48.360
<v Speaker 1>blow up was between them, I guess it wasn't that

0:52:48.400 --> 0:52:50.560
<v Speaker 1>big a deal. Maybe this is just this is just

0:52:50.600 --> 0:52:55.200
<v Speaker 1>a Tuesday. Yeah. And then also with in one of

0:52:55.200 --> 0:52:58.719
<v Speaker 1>the extremely abrupt cuts, we cut to Uncle Pete as

0:52:58.719 --> 0:53:01.600
<v Speaker 1>rectors truck on the side of the road. Had no

0:53:01.680 --> 0:53:04.560
<v Speaker 1>idea what Uncle Pete was doing before this, but this

0:53:04.640 --> 0:53:07.120
<v Speaker 1>is our first murder scenes. Suddenly he's just there. He's

0:53:07.160 --> 0:53:09.960
<v Speaker 1>like radio ing for help. Uh. And then I think

0:53:10.000 --> 0:53:12.000
<v Speaker 1>he's trying to change a tire and we get this

0:53:12.080 --> 0:53:15.640
<v Speaker 1>movie's uh of course the movies that kikike uh is

0:53:15.680 --> 0:53:19.359
<v Speaker 1>just synth drowne and the heartbeat excuse me, blood beat

0:53:19.400 --> 0:53:22.480
<v Speaker 1>sound effects. And so he's doing that, he's doing his

0:53:22.560 --> 0:53:26.120
<v Speaker 1>tire and his throat gets slashed, so the movie has

0:53:26.360 --> 0:53:31.760
<v Speaker 1>shifted into slasher mode. Uh. So then we randomly cut

0:53:31.800 --> 0:53:34.640
<v Speaker 1>to two new characters who I'm pretty sure we have

0:53:34.719 --> 0:53:39.239
<v Speaker 1>never met before. Uh, both in bathrobes. The dude of

0:53:39.320 --> 0:53:42.800
<v Speaker 1>this couple is very dub airs. He's uh, he's wearing

0:53:42.840 --> 0:53:45.640
<v Speaker 1>a trucker hat in bed and they're on a water

0:53:45.760 --> 0:53:49.760
<v Speaker 1>bed and he demands, he demands his wife bring him tea.

0:53:50.040 --> 0:53:53.319
<v Speaker 1>He wants hot tea on the waterbed, which and then

0:53:53.360 --> 0:53:55.880
<v Speaker 1>she actually puts the tray down on the waterbed and

0:53:55.920 --> 0:53:58.440
<v Speaker 1>I was like yelling at the screen. That is a

0:53:58.480 --> 0:54:03.000
<v Speaker 1>scalding waiting to happen. Doesn't He also then request orange juice.

0:54:04.280 --> 0:54:06.839
<v Speaker 1>She She's like it, do you want anything else? He's like, no,

0:54:07.000 --> 0:54:08.799
<v Speaker 1>just the tea, and then she brings it and then

0:54:08.800 --> 0:54:11.799
<v Speaker 1>he's like, hey, what about my orange juice? I mean,

0:54:11.880 --> 0:54:14.480
<v Speaker 1>I get it that it's winter in Wisconsin and perhaps

0:54:14.480 --> 0:54:17.040
<v Speaker 1>they have gas furnace going here, and you know you

0:54:17.040 --> 0:54:20.120
<v Speaker 1>need to be hydrated. But but who's having orange juice

0:54:20.120 --> 0:54:25.720
<v Speaker 1>and tea in bed in a water bed at night? Yeah?

0:54:25.840 --> 0:54:28.440
<v Speaker 1>This see or maybe he was topping off the water

0:54:28.480 --> 0:54:33.279
<v Speaker 1>bed it maybe it's full of hot tea. And then

0:54:33.280 --> 0:54:35.719
<v Speaker 1>the dog joins him on the bed. Oh yeah, well,

0:54:35.800 --> 0:54:38.040
<v Speaker 1>I gotta admit it does look super cozy. So he's

0:54:38.080 --> 0:54:40.880
<v Speaker 1>there in his flannel robe with his hat on, in

0:54:41.000 --> 0:54:44.080
<v Speaker 1>bed in the water bed with his dog. Like literally,

0:54:44.080 --> 0:54:46.759
<v Speaker 1>he's like spooning his dog with his arm around it,

0:54:47.120 --> 0:54:50.319
<v Speaker 1>reading a newspaper with a tray of hot tea and cookies,

0:54:50.880 --> 0:54:54.160
<v Speaker 1>and uh, it does look extremely cozy. I don't know

0:54:54.200 --> 0:54:56.720
<v Speaker 1>where she's going to fit into the bed though. Um.

0:54:56.760 --> 0:55:00.440
<v Speaker 1>But then while she's in the kitchen getting his orange juice, suddenly, uh,

0:55:00.560 --> 0:55:03.800
<v Speaker 1>she gets attacked by a random, unseen figure. But I

0:55:03.800 --> 0:55:05.719
<v Speaker 1>guess it's not gonna be random, It's gonna be our

0:55:05.719 --> 0:55:09.439
<v Speaker 1>our movie slasher. So she gets her throat slashed, and

0:55:09.480 --> 0:55:12.640
<v Speaker 1>then dab Bears dude is trying to figure out what

0:55:12.680 --> 0:55:14.879
<v Speaker 1>happens so he goes into the kitchen, finds her dead.

0:55:15.440 --> 0:55:19.520
<v Speaker 1>Then he has chased uh he this is a strangely

0:55:20.200 --> 0:55:24.000
<v Speaker 1>extended chase sequence, like he jumps through a glass window,

0:55:25.080 --> 0:55:28.600
<v Speaker 1>runs through a giant barn, gets in a van, drives

0:55:28.640 --> 0:55:32.640
<v Speaker 1>to a service station, finds no help, is pursued, still

0:55:32.840 --> 0:55:35.960
<v Speaker 1>drives away, runs out of gas, ends up running up

0:55:35.960 --> 0:55:41.160
<v Speaker 1>at Kathy's house. Um And then meanwhile inside Kathy is

0:55:41.200 --> 0:55:44.799
<v Speaker 1>having more of her psychic error message face and uh,

0:55:45.120 --> 0:55:48.960
<v Speaker 1>Sarah is having some kind of bizarre erotic experience while

0:55:49.000 --> 0:55:54.839
<v Speaker 1>hallucinating about the Samurai murders. Very weird, but she's having

0:55:54.880 --> 0:55:59.840
<v Speaker 1>an erotic reaction to the psychic energy of Samurai go

0:56:00.200 --> 0:56:03.719
<v Speaker 1>thing killing people, or her erotic energy is feeding the

0:56:03.760 --> 0:56:06.600
<v Speaker 1>psychic the samurai. I don't know. I can just imagine

0:56:06.640 --> 0:56:09.080
<v Speaker 1>audiences in nineteen eighty two being like, oh see, this

0:56:09.160 --> 0:56:14.719
<v Speaker 1>is a sophisticated, artistic French thing. I have to throw

0:56:14.719 --> 0:56:19.319
<v Speaker 1>in something else about the Bears guy here. I did

0:56:19.320 --> 0:56:22.160
<v Speaker 1>not include information on the actor who plays him, but

0:56:22.480 --> 0:56:24.600
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of a tour de force, especially when he's

0:56:24.680 --> 0:56:28.160
<v Speaker 1>running because most of this this, this this sequence is

0:56:28.239 --> 0:56:31.960
<v Speaker 1>him in an open bathrobe like wearing you know, just

0:56:32.000 --> 0:56:34.360
<v Speaker 1>like tidy, whitey underwear and I think some sort of

0:56:34.400 --> 0:56:37.719
<v Speaker 1>like small t shirt or undershirt. Oh yeah, yeah. And

0:56:37.760 --> 0:56:39.799
<v Speaker 1>then when he finally gets to the house, of course,

0:56:39.840 --> 0:56:42.480
<v Speaker 1>the samurai kills him right outside. But then he's poking

0:56:42.520 --> 0:56:45.400
<v Speaker 1>his head through the door and he's covered in blood,

0:56:45.400 --> 0:56:48.399
<v Speaker 1>and he's like and and this is actually the first

0:56:48.440 --> 0:56:50.759
<v Speaker 1>time where we we see that the slasher is in

0:56:50.800 --> 0:56:53.680
<v Speaker 1>fact wearing samurai armor. It's a samurai with the sword

0:56:53.719 --> 0:56:56.400
<v Speaker 1>and a bow. Yeah. And at this point things just

0:56:56.480 --> 0:57:00.960
<v Speaker 1>go completely off the rails. It's full Poultergeist. The pantry

0:57:00.960 --> 0:57:04.760
<v Speaker 1>doors are flapping mad, the dirty dishes are dancing, Quaker

0:57:04.800 --> 0:57:09.120
<v Speaker 1>oats and butternut containers are shaking violently in the cupboard. Uh,

0:57:09.360 --> 0:57:14.960
<v Speaker 1>the telephone catches on fire. Gary in the kitchen is

0:57:15.040 --> 0:57:20.120
<v Speaker 1>hilariously pelted with food stuffs and kitchen utensils until unconscious,

0:57:20.480 --> 0:57:22.880
<v Speaker 1>like he takes one too many packets of ramen to

0:57:22.960 --> 0:57:26.200
<v Speaker 1>the head and he falls over, Uh, just conked out.

0:57:27.200 --> 0:57:30.400
<v Speaker 1>And then uh, what else is it? Oh? Yeah, Ted

0:57:30.440 --> 0:57:33.040
<v Speaker 1>and Dolly are upstairs. They're trying to I think, see

0:57:33.040 --> 0:57:36.280
<v Speaker 1>what's going on with Sarah, but her room is glowing blue,

0:57:36.880 --> 0:57:38.560
<v Speaker 1>so I guess they decided they can't get in, and

0:57:38.600 --> 0:57:42.280
<v Speaker 1>then they get like psychically blasted into a closet and

0:57:42.360 --> 0:57:44.960
<v Speaker 1>the windows are raising up and down, like the windows

0:57:45.000 --> 0:57:49.040
<v Speaker 1>are laughing and uh, and Cathy is having some kind

0:57:49.040 --> 0:57:52.000
<v Speaker 1>of psychic exorcism thing going on. She's going like, who

0:57:52.040 --> 0:57:54.320
<v Speaker 1>are you? What do you want here? And and red

0:57:54.400 --> 0:57:56.760
<v Speaker 1>light is shooting out of her hands, and I think

0:57:56.800 --> 0:58:00.760
<v Speaker 1>she successfully exercises the Samurai ghost for the time being.

0:58:01.520 --> 0:58:03.760
<v Speaker 1>I think so there are a couple of moments where

0:58:03.760 --> 0:58:06.520
<v Speaker 1>they kind of get temporary victories over the Samurai goes

0:58:06.640 --> 0:58:09.360
<v Speaker 1>before it comes back and forth right, and and things

0:58:09.400 --> 0:58:11.800
<v Speaker 1>just get more and more confusing. Like so, in the

0:58:11.840 --> 0:58:14.840
<v Speaker 1>aftermath of this whole attack, they're talking about what's going on,

0:58:14.880 --> 0:58:18.600
<v Speaker 1>and Cathy says, um, he would never take me away

0:58:18.640 --> 0:58:20.840
<v Speaker 1>from you, and he would never take you and Dolly

0:58:20.920 --> 0:58:24.720
<v Speaker 1>away from me. But it did you understand who she

0:58:24.840 --> 0:58:27.000
<v Speaker 1>was talking about? I don't think the movie makes that

0:58:27.040 --> 0:58:28.880
<v Speaker 1>clear at all. At first I thought maybe she just

0:58:29.040 --> 0:58:31.680
<v Speaker 1>she meant like God or something, But I think she

0:58:31.800 --> 0:58:35.480
<v Speaker 1>was supposed to be referring to an unseen character, but

0:58:36.120 --> 0:58:38.480
<v Speaker 1>no clue who it's supposed to be. Yeah, at this

0:58:38.520 --> 0:58:40.040
<v Speaker 1>point in the film, there I think there are a

0:58:40.080 --> 0:58:43.200
<v Speaker 1>couple of times where they allude to like him or

0:58:43.360 --> 0:58:46.120
<v Speaker 1>in a way that indicates that they might be referring

0:58:46.160 --> 0:58:48.919
<v Speaker 1>to the to the same person, like as if the

0:58:48.960 --> 0:58:52.480
<v Speaker 1>samurai or the thing behind the Samurai or something something

0:58:52.880 --> 0:58:56.840
<v Speaker 1>is somebody that they would all know or had a

0:58:56.920 --> 0:58:59.600
<v Speaker 1>history of, But they never actually dish out enough in

0:58:59.640 --> 0:59:02.840
<v Speaker 1>from any for us to piece together. Now, somehow from

0:59:02.840 --> 0:59:05.840
<v Speaker 1>here we get to Hunters in the Woods sitting around

0:59:05.840 --> 0:59:09.400
<v Speaker 1>a campfire, playing the harmonica with a case of Budweiser,

0:59:09.880 --> 0:59:13.920
<v Speaker 1>and of course, even however unusual this movie is the

0:59:13.960 --> 0:59:16.280
<v Speaker 1>logic of the horror genre holds true, which is that

0:59:16.600 --> 0:59:19.400
<v Speaker 1>a group of guys sitting around a camp fire in

0:59:19.440 --> 0:59:22.840
<v Speaker 1>a horror movie that you've never met before, they are doomed.

0:59:23.040 --> 0:59:26.880
<v Speaker 1>They will definitely die, almost certainly, beginning with one who

0:59:26.920 --> 0:59:30.680
<v Speaker 1>walks away from the fire to urinate, which in fact

0:59:30.720 --> 0:59:35.200
<v Speaker 1>holds true in this case every time. It's a guarantee. Yeah, yeah,

0:59:35.200 --> 0:59:37.880
<v Speaker 1>that's exactly what happens. And I guess part of it

0:59:38.040 --> 0:59:40.480
<v Speaker 1>like you're building up your your your character, you're building

0:59:40.520 --> 0:59:43.240
<v Speaker 1>up your your slash your enemy. Uh they you just

0:59:43.280 --> 0:59:45.680
<v Speaker 1>you realize, well, he needs more kills. We need to

0:59:45.840 --> 0:59:48.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, power him up here, so let's just throw

0:59:48.240 --> 0:59:50.560
<v Speaker 1>in three new characters for him to ask here. Now,

0:59:50.600 --> 0:59:53.040
<v Speaker 1>I think that the director was still trying to play

0:59:53.040 --> 0:59:56.720
<v Speaker 1>with some weird like uh, sex death thing here. So

0:59:56.800 --> 0:59:59.440
<v Speaker 1>this is like intercut with a sex scene with with

0:59:59.520 --> 1:00:03.160
<v Speaker 1>Ted and Sarah and then uh and then and then

1:00:03.440 --> 1:00:06.640
<v Speaker 1>things just keep es like it just gets weirder and weirder,

1:00:06.720 --> 1:00:10.840
<v Speaker 1>like every ten seconds from this point on. Yeah, the

1:00:10.920 --> 1:00:13.120
<v Speaker 1>last twenty minutes or so this film, it's like approaching

1:00:13.120 --> 1:00:15.240
<v Speaker 1>the speed of light. You feel like you might not

1:00:15.360 --> 1:00:18.600
<v Speaker 1>actually ever get there, and everything just breaks down as

1:00:18.640 --> 1:00:21.160
<v Speaker 1>far as logic and reason go. There's some kind of

1:00:21.240 --> 1:00:25.360
<v Speaker 1>brief psychic battle between Dolly and Cathy. No indication so

1:00:25.440 --> 1:00:28.600
<v Speaker 1>far that Dolly had psychic powers, but she like goes

1:00:28.640 --> 1:00:30.840
<v Speaker 1>in to talk to her mom and she's like, don't

1:00:30.880 --> 1:00:33.280
<v Speaker 1>come into my mind, stop it. And they're they're going

1:00:33.320 --> 1:00:37.240
<v Speaker 1>like at each other's heads, yeah, making scanner face a bit.

1:00:37.280 --> 1:00:41.479
<v Speaker 1>They're yes, scanner facing at each other. Um, and then

1:00:41.840 --> 1:00:44.600
<v Speaker 1>uh oh, there's a scene of Ted in the woods

1:00:44.760 --> 1:00:48.360
<v Speaker 1>with the rifle crying, and then Gary's riding a horse,

1:00:48.960 --> 1:00:52.160
<v Speaker 1>and then Dolly's in the woods and she turns into

1:00:52.160 --> 1:00:55.000
<v Speaker 1>some kind of blue and red nightmare. And then the

1:00:55.040 --> 1:00:58.120
<v Speaker 1>Samurai appears and is like reaching out to Dolly and

1:00:58.160 --> 1:01:02.160
<v Speaker 1>talking to her. I didn't quite understand what was happening there. Yeah,

1:01:02.280 --> 1:01:05.720
<v Speaker 1>And then they what they're able to actually bash the

1:01:05.720 --> 1:01:09.320
<v Speaker 1>physical samurai, right Gary. Yeah. So Gary's got a mall

1:01:09.360 --> 1:01:12.360
<v Speaker 1>that he was splitting wood with and he swings the

1:01:12.400 --> 1:01:15.400
<v Speaker 1>mall at the Samurai's head and hits it, but it

1:01:15.480 --> 1:01:18.200
<v Speaker 1>just collapses into a pile of armor like it was empty,

1:01:19.200 --> 1:01:23.520
<v Speaker 1>the physical set of armor that just manifested in the house.

1:01:23.760 --> 1:01:27.600
<v Speaker 1>And and Dolly reacts to this by saying, Mom was right,

1:01:27.840 --> 1:01:34.160
<v Speaker 1>but I was like about what, yeah, again, alluding to something, um,

1:01:34.200 --> 1:01:36.880
<v Speaker 1>but I'm not sure how to put these puzzle pieces together.

1:01:37.320 --> 1:01:41.000
<v Speaker 1>But then back at the house, it's just it's difficult

1:01:41.040 --> 1:01:43.560
<v Speaker 1>to convey how weird the energy of this scene is.

1:01:43.600 --> 1:01:47.520
<v Speaker 1>So Gary's got the samurai armor and he's taking it

1:01:47.600 --> 1:01:51.280
<v Speaker 1>to show it to Cathy and she's just like, burn it.

1:01:51.280 --> 1:01:53.439
<v Speaker 1>It's evil, and he's like, no, I have to take

1:01:53.440 --> 1:01:55.840
<v Speaker 1>it to the police, and Dolly saying, bring me some

1:01:55.920 --> 1:02:00.480
<v Speaker 1>candy bars. And then there's a photo on the desk

1:02:00.680 --> 1:02:02.920
<v Speaker 1>of a child and I don't know who it's supposed

1:02:02.960 --> 1:02:07.200
<v Speaker 1>to be. And and Sarah burns the photo with pyro kinesis,

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<v Speaker 1>and then basically the movie from here escalates into a

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<v Speaker 1>series of psychic power fights. Remember, the only person who

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<v Speaker 1>we had any indication before this part was psychic was

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<v Speaker 1>the mom and and Sarah maybe Sarah, but now it's

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<v Speaker 1>like everybody but Gary has psychic powers. So Sarah appears

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<v Speaker 1>in samurai armor, and then this is inner cut with

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<v Speaker 1>stock footage of World War two, and meanwhile Carl Orth

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<v Speaker 1>is just blaring yes Kara Karmie Hipperon. And there's a

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<v Speaker 1>psychic battle between between Kathy and the the Sarah in

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<v Speaker 1>samurai form. The Samurai wins. She like stabs Kathy and Gary.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's another psychic battle between Ted and Dolly

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<v Speaker 1>and the samurai and they win. So I guess Ted

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<v Speaker 1>and Dolly had psychic powers all along, and we just

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<v Speaker 1>never that was never mentioned before. And then Ted and

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<v Speaker 1>Dully walked out of the house and that's the end.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the end of the movie. Yeah, and then we're

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<v Speaker 1>just left to to try and piece it together, which

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<v Speaker 1>which ultimately you know, it's it's you know, there's something

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<v Speaker 1>about a film that sticks with you. There are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of films there. There are a lot of arguably

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<v Speaker 1>better films than this that I've I've seen and I

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<v Speaker 1>immediately forget, Like I don't wake up the next morning

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<v Speaker 1>and ponder them. But I've I've been thinking on and

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<v Speaker 1>off about Blood Beat ever since I watched it the

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<v Speaker 1>other day, and um, and so I've been trying to

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<v Speaker 1>sort of put together answers for like, for the basic

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<v Speaker 1>question here, what the heck was the deal with that

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<v Speaker 1>samurai ghost? Why is there a samurai ghost in Wisconsin

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<v Speaker 1>haunting this family? Sort of? Yeah? Um, And I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>look long and hard for an official answer to this,

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<v Speaker 1>But according to Michael Geingold of Rue Morgue, the director's

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<v Speaker 1>answer to this in an interview on one of the

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<v Speaker 1>on the Vine or Syndrome Blu Ray is essentially, um,

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<v Speaker 1>why not? Like why samurai ghost in Wisconsin? Why not? So? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, that's that's not a great answer, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think we can go a lot a lot deeper.

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<v Speaker 1>So on one hand, um, you know, I'm thinking, like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>is this the Japanese Poulter guist, This is the spirit

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<v Speaker 1>of a long dead warrior and he's somehow reincarnated through

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah or awakened by Mom's psychic powers or art? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Did Mom have some prior connection to the spirit um?

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<v Speaker 1>And then we can throw in all these additional questions

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<v Speaker 1>like who's the little girl we keep seeing? Where does

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<v Speaker 1>the physical armor come from? Is it actually hidden there

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<v Speaker 1>or did it just manifest? Why are we seeing these

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<v Speaker 1>flashes of World War two footage that seems to be important? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I would say, showing stock footage of a

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<v Speaker 1>of a war inter cut with a scene that that

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<v Speaker 1>seems to be trying to make a connection. So I

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<v Speaker 1>have two theories one and I should drive home. Neither

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<v Speaker 1>of these is really supported by the text. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really I'm really going out there trying to make these work. So,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, could this vengeful Japanese ghost be somehow

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<v Speaker 1>connected to the US internment of Japanese Americans during the

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<v Speaker 1>Second World War? I would see no indication of that

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<v Speaker 1>in the movie. No indication in the movie, But I

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<v Speaker 1>believe Fort McCoy in Wisconsin was one of the facilities

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<v Speaker 1>used in this shameful chapter of American history. Uh, And

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<v Speaker 1>it also was used to house Japanese prisoners of war. So, um,

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<v Speaker 1>if we're going to really, uh, cut this film a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of slack. We might say, maybe that's what it

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<v Speaker 1>was going for, And I'll say, if that sounds even

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<v Speaker 1>remotely interesting, there's a much better supernatural treatment of of

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<v Speaker 1>of the subject matter in season two of AMC's The Terror.

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<v Speaker 1>My other theory or here is that the psychic Samurai

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<v Speaker 1>ghost is, in fact, on Edgregor, a powerful non physical

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<v Speaker 1>entity that arises from a group of people on occult

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<v Speaker 1>concept similar in some ways to that of a tulpa

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<v Speaker 1>that wasn't think I know about this? Oh yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't familiar with it till I was reading some Grant Morrison.

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<v Speaker 1>Because Grant Morrison makes use of this concept of this

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<v Speaker 1>occult concept in this DC supervillain character that he either

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<v Speaker 1>created or riffed heavily on, called the candle Maker, who

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<v Speaker 1>said to be a powerful Edgregor born out of humanities

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<v Speaker 1>collective on conscious tensions surrounding twenty century anxieties over nuclear war.

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<v Speaker 1>So along those lines, could the psychic ghost Samurai in

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<v Speaker 1>this picture being Edgregor born out of American tension and

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<v Speaker 1>shame uh concerning Japanese in tournament and the use of

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<v Speaker 1>atomic weaponry during the Second World War The only thing

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<v Speaker 1>to indicate that though, would be the would be the

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<v Speaker 1>like the inter cutting with the scenes from the war

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<v Speaker 1>in that very final scene. Like there's nothing at all

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<v Speaker 1>earlier in the movie to point in that direction. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like there's no, there's nothing. I don't think there's anything

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<v Speaker 1>in the house that shows any aside from the armor

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<v Speaker 1>that again is implied to just physically manifest and have

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<v Speaker 1>no previous history in the house. There's nothing thing in

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<v Speaker 1>there to indicate the family has any connections to Japanese culture,

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<v Speaker 1>to Japanese history. You know. It's not nothing like, oh well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's grandpa's photo. He fought in the war and

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<v Speaker 1>was convicted of war crimes or something. Right, this would

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<v Speaker 1>be very loose. But there are some what appear to

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<v Speaker 1>be uh Buddhist or Buddhist suggestive artworks in the house,

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<v Speaker 1>like there I think, am I right about this? Weren't there?

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<v Speaker 1>That is true? Yeah? Like Kathy a k Mom has

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<v Speaker 1>kind of this um you know, kind of like um

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<v Speaker 1>more of a hippie, free free form artistic spirit that's

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of captured in the wild, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of out of keeping with the the the rural

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<v Speaker 1>environment around her. Uh so, I guess you could. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what that would mean either, unless, like the

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<v Speaker 1>statue was like there doesn't Yeah, this stuff is just

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<v Speaker 1>part of the backdrop. It doesn't seem to play any

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<v Speaker 1>real significant role in the subsequent haunting or psychic explosion

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<v Speaker 1>that occurs. I mean, all I can say is that

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<v Speaker 1>I think the inter cutting with the scenes of World

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<v Speaker 1>War two is supposed to suggest something, but I can't

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<v Speaker 1>form anything coherent about it that really connects with anything

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<v Speaker 1>else in the movie. Yeah, but it it all like

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<v Speaker 1>there's it almost makes sense in a way that is

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<v Speaker 1>um that they really you know, pulls that your your

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<v Speaker 1>brain strings, you know, you can't quite get out of mind, like,

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<v Speaker 1>well was it. It's almost saying something coherently or some

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<v Speaker 1>my coherently, and I just can't make out what it

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<v Speaker 1>might be saying. Well, you know, I I think I've

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<v Speaker 1>said on the show before that I sometimes have a

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<v Speaker 1>probably an unusually high tolerance for unanswered questions in in

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<v Speaker 1>fiction and movies. I mean, I often think that it's, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's better to leave things a mystery than to answer

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<v Speaker 1>them in an unsatisfying way. But I mean, sometimes you

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<v Speaker 1>can just leave people hanging too much. Like I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like if if the director truly had something like that

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<v Speaker 1>in mind, you could have put a few more pointers

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<v Speaker 1>in there. Yeah. I guess what we're trying to say

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<v Speaker 1>is blood beat. It's a Christmas miracle. Oh yeah, Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot about that part. That's why you picked it. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it really didn't do a lot of thinking about like,

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<v Speaker 1>what is this saying about Christmas? I guess it's not

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<v Speaker 1>really saying anything about Christmas, but it takes place at Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas is the reason, uh for these people coming together

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<v Speaker 1>and psychically manifesting at a samurai warrior to kill everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I gotta say I I on the whole.

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<v Speaker 1>I enjoyed it. I've certainly not board, but this is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most befuddling films we have we have

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<v Speaker 1>watched for this show yet, I agree. So out there

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<v Speaker 1>you might be wondering, well, how can I get on

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<v Speaker 1>this in on this holiday befuddlement. Well, um, this movie

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<v Speaker 1>is out there if you're looking for it. I streamed

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<v Speaker 1>it on shutter uh and I think it may be

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<v Speaker 1>available via some other online services as well. It was

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<v Speaker 1>also released on Blu Ray by Vinegar Syndrome a few

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<v Speaker 1>years back, and uh, like I mentioned earlier, that actually

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<v Speaker 1>includes an interview with the director. Uh so if you're

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<v Speaker 1>really curious, maybe you can you can get your hands

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<v Speaker 1>on that disk and maybe maybe even answer some of

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<v Speaker 1>these questions that we have. I I don't know, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm guessing probably not. But yeah, I would say still

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<v Speaker 1>go back to what we said earlier. I am I

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<v Speaker 1>admire the ambition here because you know, a lesser you know,

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<v Speaker 1>director and writer might have just said, Hey, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have some crazy person in a samurai a suit of

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<v Speaker 1>samurai armor is gonna start killing people, and that's all

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<v Speaker 1>you need to know. Just somebody was crazy and they

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<v Speaker 1>put on some some you know, armor and grabbed the sword,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know that that's it. But no, this film

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<v Speaker 1>went for something far more elaborate, and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's one of the things that makes it interesting. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it is definitely the only Franco wisconsinite psychic art house

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas slasher movie I've ever seen. All Right, Well, if

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