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Speaker 1: At least he's the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly, he is the Matt

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Speaker 2: Williamson and it is the start of our number two

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Speaker 2: and well it's time for us. No, we're not going

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Speaker 2: to monitor mock it up, right, psych what we're gonna do.

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Speaker 2: Here's a little fantasy football focus. Whoa the first one ever?

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Speaker 2: But we're not mocking that up yet. We're not marking

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Speaker 2: that up there. But Mike Clay, yeah on ESPN, has

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Speaker 2: come out with his projection.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of fantasy stuff that comes out exactly

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Speaker 3: when the draft ends. It becomes fantasy season pretty soon.

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Speaker 2: Right, So let's look at Mike Clay's Steeler projections. Here. Start,

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Speaker 2: he is assuming that Aaron Rodgers correctly so assigns with

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Speaker 2: the Steelers. Okay, that's how I would handle it too.

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Speaker 2: You don't want to do this as if he's not

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Speaker 2: and then redo it all, you know. Yeah, So what

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Speaker 2: he has for Aaron Rodgers projected numbers with the Steelers, uh,

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Speaker 2: five hundred and fifteen games, five hundred attempts, thirty three

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Speaker 2: hundred and twenty four completions, three hundred and fifty or

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Speaker 2: thirty five hundred and fifty seven yards, nineteen touchdowns, ten interceptions,

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Speaker 2: ninety nine yards rushing in a touchdown on twenty seven carries.

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Speaker 2: Would you take that? Well?

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Speaker 3: I preface this because I'm sure we have new listeners.

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Speaker 3: We're growing like crazy. The drives on fire. When these

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Speaker 3: these fantasy projections, they're always give for Mike played, they're

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Speaker 3: always gonna be low. It's only fifteen games. They do

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Speaker 3: that on purpose because people get hurt in the league,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, or you know, you sit

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Speaker 3: them out or whatever. I wouldn't take it.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't either. No, And I think I take the

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Speaker 2: rushing well, he had about that many rushing yards last year.

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Speaker 2: We're acting like he is completely immobile. He's not. He

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Speaker 2: used to be two hundred a year. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: first down, break your back, Yeah yeah, yeah, he's not

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Speaker 2: that guy anymore. But he's not completely like he just

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Speaker 2: can't run at all. There won't be any designed run.

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Speaker 2: He's not. He's not been at the end. No, exactly exactly.

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Speaker 2: I don't think over nineteen. I'll take over nineteen touchdowns,

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Speaker 2: like and I might go under ten because he does

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Speaker 2: not throw. He's don't throw that many interceptions. Last year

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Speaker 2: was kind of the outlier if you look at the overall.

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Speaker 2: They also have Mason Rudolph playing two games. They have

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Speaker 2: the Steelers quarterbacks throwing for four and eleven yards, twenty

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Speaker 2: two touchdown passes, twelve interceptions, and rushing for one hundred

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Speaker 2: and eighteen yards in a score. I think they could

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Speaker 2: throw for four thousand, so that's not bad. I think

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Speaker 2: the yardage numbers about right. I'm going to take a

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Speaker 2: little over on passing. Take I'll take the more passing touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: That's about what they had this year.

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Speaker 3: Right right, And it's like last year. I mean I

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Speaker 3: remember having this. There's a lot of deja vu here,

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Speaker 3: like maybe they'll throw remember the joke last years And

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Speaker 3: they did, but not quite as much as I expected.

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Speaker 3: You know, Wilson has had a great red zone you know,

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Speaker 3: and didn't quite hit that mark here. But I still

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Speaker 3: think that's a smidge low.

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Speaker 2: Okay, At running back they have Jen he has Jalen

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Speaker 2: Warren one hundred and sixty five carries for seven hundred

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Speaker 2: three hundred and seventy six yards in a touchdown. Pretty good.

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Speaker 2: So over a thousand, yeah, yeah. I don't want to

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Speaker 2: I'm just wondering how the divisional labors got to go.

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Speaker 2: You know, he has Caleb Johnson, the third round draft pick,

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Speaker 2: two hundred and seventeen rushing attempts, nine hundred and eighteen yards,

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Speaker 3: I would take that. It sounds pretty darn good to me. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: It's over four yards of carry. It's that's a big

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it was in there, but it's

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Speaker 3: one of my things I'm harping on this year, and

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Speaker 3: I mean, you're gonna hear a lot more going forward.

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Speaker 3: Is four yards carry and could have cut it four

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Speaker 2: Now we're talking now, we're all right, right, right? Uh?

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Speaker 2: Does gainwell in there too? Or twenty six carries for

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Speaker 2: Overall, four hundred and thirty nine carries, okay, one eight

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Speaker 3: Let me give me those numbers here, eighteen seventy eight,

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Speaker 3: eighteen seventy eight divided by four to thirty nine four

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Speaker 2: Would take that right now almost for three yards of carry. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: four to two.

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Speaker 3: It made a lot of difference last year. That means

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Speaker 3: there's probably a couple of longer runs in there, which

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Speaker 3: I think you're more apt to do with Gainwell, Johnson, Warren.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll take four to three. It's pretty good, pretty good, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean that probably gets you the fifteenth in the league.

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Speaker 2: And you know you're not gonna be take one Barkley,

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Speaker 2: but that I'll take that that. It adds up a

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Speaker 2: lot over the course of the year, ninety receptions for

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Speaker 2: six hundred and forty two yards and three three touchdowns

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Speaker 2: out of that group. Rogers is very happy to dump

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but a lot of it was just if you're

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Speaker 3: gonna give me that al Nickel and Dimy to death

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Speaker 3: patient veteran quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So overall you would be looking at five hundred

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Speaker 2: and twenty nine touches out of your running backs. How's

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Speaker 2: that compared to that? Doesn't I don't have a certain

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Speaker 2: Would you put a bet down today that Johnson is

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Speaker 2: the leading rusher on the team. Yes, I would too. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure if it'll be the leading yardage running

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Speaker 2: I think the snap counts are pretty similar to what

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Speaker 2: they think it might have it nailed. Yeah, and you

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Speaker 2: got both got both backs, Warren and Johnson both finishing

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, all right, you'll do that. You'll take that

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Speaker 3: all day. I think that's accurate, and now I think

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Speaker 3: that's very acceptable. At wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: DK Metcalf one hundred and twenty one targets, seventy three

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Speaker 2: catches for one thy and twenty yards, six touchdowns. Fair.

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Speaker 2: Would you guess the run pass ratio remains the same.

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Speaker 2: It won't be more run heavy or good. It's a

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Speaker 2: little more pass heavy. I think a little more towards.

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Speaker 2: Not fifty to fifty. I think it's more like fifty

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Speaker 2: five forty five something along those lines. I said it's.

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Speaker 3: Two percentage three percentage more pass heavy than last year. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: because for you're not gonna have the fields design runs

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Speaker 2: Yeah. George Pickens one hundred and sixteen targets, sixty nine catches,

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Speaker 2: nine hundred and eighty six yards, and six scores. So

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Speaker 2: you're getting almost one thousand, betweenty two of them. You're

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Speaker 3: Let's say if you get kind of like the two

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Speaker 3: yards from Warren Johnson Pickins Metcalf, pretty good starts, not

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Speaker 3: a bad offense. Yeah, And this goes back to the

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Speaker 3: first projections. I might take the over on passing touchdowns

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Speaker 2: Between the two of them. What was it like, fourteen

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Speaker 2: that combined. Yeah, Calvin Austin fifty four targets, thirty three catches,

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Speaker 2: four hundred and twenty one yards, and two scores. I

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Speaker 2: think you'd be happy with that, assuming one of the

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Speaker 2: two top guys doesn't miss significant times. You know, Roman

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Speaker 2: Wilson just thirteen targets, eight catches for ninety eight. He's

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Speaker 2: gonna get more than that. Yeah. So I have seen

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Speaker 2: some studies where second year guys that really don't perform

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Speaker 2: well in their rookie year have a terrible, terrible track record.

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Speaker 2: I think he's a little different though. Yeah. I mean

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Speaker 3: Lack of opportunity, but usually a lack of opportunity just

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Speaker 3: because they weren't good enough.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure that's what happened. I think that

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Speaker 2: was the case. Yeah, he's had more than thirteen targets

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Speaker 2: overall out of your wide receivers, one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 2: four catches, twenty five hundred and thirty six yards, fourteen touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: I'm definitely over on the touchdowns, but that's going back

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Speaker 3: to the passing touch I think I.

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Speaker 2: Go over on the catches. Yeah, well, I mean one

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Speaker 2: hundred and eighty four is a pretty good number, but

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Speaker 2: I do think that they get more. Again, I think

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Speaker 2: Roman Wilson's being undervalued there. Yeah, one hundred percent. I

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Speaker 2: could see him close. It's like eleven receiver catches a game,

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Speaker 2: and I think it's more like two hundred catches. Bumps

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Speaker 2: intuh twelve or thirteen catches per game. His projections are

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Speaker 2: ten point eight wide receiver catches per game. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: bet that's hired that at tight end. This one's curious

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Speaker 2: to me. Friarmouth eighty three targets, sixty three catches, five

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Speaker 2: hundred and forty four yards, three touchdowns. Okay, I don't

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Speaker 2: know Rogers. I think he catches more touchdowns. I think

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Speaker 2: catches more touchdowns. Aaron Rodgers a king of the one

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Speaker 2: yard touchdown pass. That's a good point too, And he's

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Speaker 3: I might take over on the targets too. And he

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Speaker 3: said eighty three, I bet he gets.

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Speaker 2: To one hundred. That's the third most on the team

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Speaker 2: right by a pretty significant margin. I think middle of

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Speaker 2: the field throwing has to go up, and they're going

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Speaker 2: to go somewhere.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, even if it's Rudolph, they gave him money, you know, Like,

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Speaker 3: I think he's been under used a little bit.

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Speaker 2: In the last Yeah, especially in the red zone. I

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Speaker 2: think he's right gonna be better in the red zone.

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Speaker 2: Darnell Washington is thirty three targets, twenty three catches, two

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Speaker 2: hundred and twenty yards in a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: That's two targets a game. That's why I was really

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Speaker 3: gonna focus on the targets. Is to a game about

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Speaker 3: right for him, I would say, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Hayward is eight targets, six catches fifty one yards. Donald

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Speaker 2: par him three targets to catches eighteen yards. Over All,

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Speaker 2: your tight ends one hundred and twenty six targets, ninety

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Speaker 2: three catches for eight hundred and thirty three yards and

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Speaker 2: five touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: Not bad about where they were in the ballpark. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think it's in the ballpark.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think the arrow is pointing up on Friarmouth a

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Speaker 3: little bit, though. I don't think we's plate coed.

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Speaker 2: Uh. Moving over to the defense, well, they have. He

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Speaker 2: has Boswell at thirty of thirty three field goal attempts

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Speaker 2: and thirty four to thirty five in pats. Okay, there'll

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Speaker 2: be a down yere for him down here. That's only

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Speaker 2: eighty nine percent, right, that would actually be a down.

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Speaker 3: Yearn for him. But there's weather. Yeah, he's pretty good.

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Speaker 2: Uh. And then Cameron Johnston averaging forty six point eight

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Speaker 2: You got Cameron Hayward playing seven hundred and sixty five snaps.

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Speaker 2: Daniel Akinwally three hundred and ninety three snaps, twenty eight tackles,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I sat'll be true or not think he gets

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Speaker 2: Yeah, as Isaiah louder Milk at one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 2: and ninety seven snaps. Well, Watt and high Smith are

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Speaker 2: ninety Seven's a little low, but sixty tackles, nine sacks

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Speaker 3: I would take that from him, but I would not

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Speaker 2: No, you need more than that. Yeah, Yeah. Nick Kerbik

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Speaker 2: I mean Jack Sawyer one hundred and fifty nine snaps,

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Speaker 3: That number has to be higher, to be higher, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: The inside backers Patrick Queen playing one thousand and nine snaps,

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Speaker 2: I don't know about that. Three see why would but

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Speaker 3: So they're basically totally fifty to fifty basically, Yeah, which

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Speaker 2: Point forty nine tackles, point seven sacks, point three interceptions.

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Speaker 2: And then Malik Harrison with one hundred and fifty nine snaps,

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Speaker 3: I don't think Harrison will play a time, but I

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Speaker 2: Yeah. At cornerback, you're looking at Joey Porter Junior with

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Speaker 2: I assume they think he'll get targeted more. Beanie Bishop

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Speaker 2: think it goes under Brandt makes team Brandon Eckles two

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Speaker 3: I mean, you agree Eckles will play more than Bishop, right,

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Speaker 3: I think so. I think, I mean that might become more.

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Speaker 3: It will become more clear, But I would bet right now.

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Speaker 2: And then Corey Trice with fifty three snaps, four tackles,

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Speaker 3: Seems low, But there's a reason he does this math.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it adds up year after year. Right, it's

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Speaker 3: it's real easy to go. That's enough. That's not enough.

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Speaker 3: That's why everyone bets overs in preseason. Yeah, yeah, not

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Speaker 2: At safety? Make I Fitzpatrick one thousand and nine snaps,

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Speaker 2: I know it's been low lately, but I'm definitely out

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Speaker 2: over going over one point three to Shaun Elliott eight

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Speaker 2: so too. One Thornhill four hundred and sixty eight snaps,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you want him playing about fifty percent

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Speaker 2: And then Miles Killerbrew gets thirty two defensive snaps overall,

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Speaker 3: Point sevens not bad. I think get five picks out

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Speaker 2: Good. Yeah, if you get overall, he looks he has

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Speaker 2: them rated for forty one sacks and thirteen interceptions. Well,

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Speaker 2: history tells us they're probably going to be over on

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they should. I mean, I really think, especially

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Speaker 2: Like they're gonna play Cleveland twice. Who's Cleveland running out

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Speaker 2: their quarterback. Somebody's gonna take some sacks. Yeah, and I

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Speaker 2: He's notoriously a sack guy, but their line is better. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now he also has to win probability on these games.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, that's a road game. So they win probabilities

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Speaker 2: History shows different in that Cleveland at home a seventy

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Speaker 2: a little high. Seventy seven Stile Division game. Right, Buffalo

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Speaker 2: You know, Cincinnati on the road a forty five percent

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Speaker 2: right there. Indianapolis at home a sixty two percent chance

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Speaker 2: Darnold might take some sacks there. A tough road trip

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Speaker 2: the Chargers on the road rode fifty to fifty. There'd

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Speaker 2: Doesn't sound like he's real high in the brownies? Does

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Speaker 2: does that end up being a ten and seven record

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Speaker 2: ten eleven. Oh Wow, so that's different than what I

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Speaker 2: remember doing that last year and it was like seven.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, I mean Clay thinks they're a

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Speaker 3: I mean, nothing will ever be Chalk and Vegas might disagree,

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Speaker 2: Or at least a fifty to fifty pick them. Oh okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: because yet one there's two. Now there's two fifty fifty games. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So there's nine that their favorite, five no, six clear

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Speaker 2: if we do the Chargers right their road their home game,

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Speaker 3: Oh right right, so one of the home games that's

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Speaker 2: Anyways, let's get through a break. That's going to do

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Speaker 2: it for our little fantasy football focus. Here he is

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. Well, you're listening to

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Speaker 1: At least is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly. He is the Matt

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Speaker 2: Williamson and Matt. We we've gone over the Steelers draft

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Speaker 2: picks here. Yeah, I think a little bit of how

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Speaker 2: we expect these guys to fit in. Let's talk about

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Speaker 2: some of the other drafts in the league here. We'll

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Speaker 2: start with together teams in the AFC North, So Baltimore

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Speaker 2: had a whole bunch of picks, but as I mentioned,

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Speaker 2: So one hundred and seventy eight through two forty three,

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00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 2: they made one, two, three, four, five, They made six

431
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Speaker 2: picks in what round picks? What picks? One seventy eight

432
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 2: through two forty three. Okay, uh, they had five picks,

433
00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:02,479
Speaker 2: picks twenty seven through one. So they got Malachi Starks,

434
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 2: a safety out of Georgia in first round. That's that's

435
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 2: a good pick up for them. Yeah. I agree, it's

436
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 2: all in safe, very raven. Yeah. Yeah. At fifty nine

437
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 2: they took a little bit of a chance on Mike Green,

438
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,440
Speaker 2: who fell. I thought he was maybe a top fifteen

439
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,639
Speaker 2: player in this draft. As a player, yes, but as

440
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 2: a person maybe not. Maybe not.

441
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 3: Now I'm not picking on them because they're the division

442
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 3: rival all that stuff, but there is a lot of

443
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 3: documentation that is on Baltimore Ravens dot com after the

444
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 3: Ray Rice stuff that we will not take any kind

445
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 3: of of those you know, risks with players, and if

446
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 3: you felt that good about him, would you wait at

447
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 3: the fifty nine I'm just saying I kind of cut

448
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 3: and pasted that from a podcast I listened to before that,

449
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,439
Speaker 3: And this isn't ravenspecific, but it does bother me a

450
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,679
Speaker 3: little bit sometimes that these guys that have characters concerns,

451
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 3: the team drafting them comes to the podium and says.

452
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 2: We tarked all that stuff. We did our due our.

453
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 3: Due diligence and then knowing the media mentions it again

454
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 3: like well, what did you do?

455
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 2: You know, I mean maybe didn't. Of course you did

456
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 2: your due diligence. You did on your third round pick

457
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 2: and your fourth round. It looked at everybody that was here,

458
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 2: you didn't wouldn't draft him. I'm rooting for the young man.

459
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 2: I hope that he's assault of the earth. But there's

460
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 2: a reason he didn't go in the first round. Yeah. Uh.

461
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 2: They took ninety one in the third round, Emery Jones,

462
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,199
Speaker 2: the offensive tackle out of LSU. That was kind of

463
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,880
Speaker 2: early for him. Yeah. I liked that they did take

464
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:37,160
Speaker 2: two projected guards though. Yeah, you know, uh, I picked

465
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 2: one nine. They took Teddy Buchanan, the linebacker that was

466
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 2: California early for him. Yeah. Yeah, Carson Vincent at one

467
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 2: forty one. Again, when we talked about some of these

468
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 2: offensive linemen got pushed way up when we when we

469
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 2: did our mock drafts and stuff. Vincent was a guy

470
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 2: that was always available in round seven, right, all right,

471
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 2: you got Hemery Jones was a guy that was available

472
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 2: in round six when we picked Yep, they took billal

473
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 2: Cone Cone, the corner back out of Western Michigan and.

474
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 3: Warmed up to him late in the process. Good tester.

475
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 3: I think that's a nice pick, Hansy. But yeah, yeah, yeah.

476
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 2: Then they took it with their second sixth round pick,

477
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 2: Tyler Loop the kicking old issues right, tells me that

478
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 2: Justin Tucker may not be a Raven much longer. Think

479
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 2: so because they said, well, he was the best kicker

480
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,479
Speaker 2: in this draft. Okay, yeah, yeah, what does that mean

481
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 2: for your present kicker? Then? Right, he's not going to

482
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 2: be on the team. I doubt there's gonna be a

483
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 2: kicker battle, right, Yeah, no, he's gone. I think at

484
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 2: two oh three, they took Lejonte Wester, the wide receiver

485
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 2: out of Colorado. Then they took they got a kind

486
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 2: of a value pick here with their next couple, guys.

487
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 2: I thought the next two were nice. Yeah, two ten,

488
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 2: they got a Nis Peebles, a defensive tackle out of

489
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 2: Virginia Tech. A little undersize, but a good up the

490
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,360
Speaker 2: field pass run. Yeah, a little different than what they

491
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 2: have though. Yeah.

492
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 3: I mean, I know, Matta Bouquet is not a massive

493
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,919
Speaker 3: Sarahgusa type, but he's not little either, right, you know,

494
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 3: I mean most.

495
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 2: Of the guy's two hundred and eighty five pounds, right right,

496
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 2: they usually have big, big tackles. Then they got it

497
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 2: picked to twelve Robert Longerbeam the cornerback out of Rutgers.

498
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 2: He could stick. I wouldn't mind the Steelers grabbing it.

499
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,120
Speaker 2: I had him as a possibility for the Steelers. Yeah, yeah,

500
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 2: earlier than that. And then uh it picked two forty three.

501
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 2: They took another guard, Garrett Dellinger, out of LSU.

502
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 3: Which how many LSU O Linman were in this draft?

503
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 3: I I hardly knew it about Elager because he might

504
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 3: have been a backup. But maybe if some scoop they

505
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 3: took two LSU offs.

506
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 2: So essentially, I mean, if you look at it, Jones

507
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 2: and Vincent both might be guards. I assume they are. Yeah,

508
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,959
Speaker 2: and then you took a third guard. Tell me you

509
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 2: say you have a problem with your guards. See that

510
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 2: I appreciate.

511
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 3: Even if you overdrafted them, you have to overdraft O

512
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 3: Limeman and their guard situation.

513
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 2: To me was the weakest spot on the team. Yeah,

514
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 2: I mean I thought, you know Starks and Green were

515
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 2: both value picks. Yeah yeah, and then fall player yeah yeah,

516
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,919
Speaker 2: so we'll see how that works out for them. I

517
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 2: like their draft.

518
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 3: Again, a lot of their picks because they made so many,

519
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 3: are six round and later.

520
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 2: But if two or three of those guys stick around, good, yeah,

521
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 2: just get taking bites to the apple, you know. Cincinnati

522
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 2: in the first round took Shamar Stewart at seventeen. I

523
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 2: will say I like the Ravens draft much more than

524
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 2: the Ohio teams. They then took Demetrius Knight, the linebacker

525
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 2: out of South Carolina, in the second round to pick

526
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 2: forty nine. He's an older prospect at twenty five. I

527
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 2: thought that was way too early. I mean I liked

528
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,439
Speaker 2: the player, yeah, but he's also twenty five. He is

529
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 2: what he is. I think he was my third linebacker.

530
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 2: He was somewhere in a rastic There was a big

531
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 2: fall up there. I wouldn't taken him at forty nine.

532
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 2: I didn't think it was a second round player. They

533
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 2: took in round three at eighty one Dylan Fairchriald, the

534
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 2: guard out of Georgia, who we both like. But too early.

535
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 2: Maybe in the fourth round, right, Yeah, again, a little

536
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 2: bit businesses draft. Unfortunately, at pick one nineteen, they took

537
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,360
Speaker 2: Barrett Carter, the linebacker at a Clemson.

538
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 3: So if you're gonna take a linebacker at forty nine

539
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 3: and you already Wilson. I don't understand doubling down there.

540
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 3: I know Pratt's not happy or whatever, but he shouldn't

541
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 3: change your life that much.

542
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 2: No. Then they took another guard, basically Jalen Rivers at

543
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 2: pick one, FF three out of Miami. Similar situation, double

544
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 2: down on guards because you're bad there. Yeah, and they

545
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 2: are just like the Ravens, and I'm okay with that.

546
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 2: In round six, they took running back Taj Brooks out

547
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 2: of Texas Tech, who I.

548
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 3: Think will be there too. Yeah, and like I think

549
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 3: he'll be Fantasy relevant. That's fine. My problem with them

550
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 3: is only six picks, which isn't great. I don't trust

551
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,719
Speaker 3: them to develop Stewart at all. I mean, there's no

552
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 3: history that that's what they're good at. No defensive and

553
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 3: it's too centric on this on two positions. I mean,

554
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 3: we'll get to this with the Browns, that's.

555
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 2: Inside linebacker and guard. They're not. It'd be differently.

556
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 3: You're taking tackles in premium positions too, but you're doubling

557
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 3: down at linebacker, you're doubling down at guard, and I

558
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 3: think it's way too early for Night and I think

559
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 3: stuarts their ability to develop those guys has not shown

560
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 3: up at all.

561
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, Cleveland had an interesting.

562
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 3: Drafty the most interesting draft in the league, and should

563
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 3: order something to do with that.

564
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 2: Of course, they traded back from two. Somebody said that

565
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 2: on last Wednesday that that might be a strong possibility,

566
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 2: and they took at five. They get picked up a

567
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 2: first round pick next year, which which is that massive. Yeah,

568
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 2: But they had a bunch of picks going into this

569
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 2: draft and they ended up a seven total. Yeah. Yeah

570
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 2: for a team that all the fifth round or higher. Yeah,

571
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 2: for a team that didn't have any of those middle

572
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 2: round guys they get.

573
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 3: I would rather they had the Ravens throw a bunch

574
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 3: of stuff at the day three, round six, and seven.

575
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 3: So at the fifth over room to make the Browns

576
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 3: roster than the Ravens.

577
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 2: They take Mason Graham, the defensive tackle out of Michigan.

578
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 3: Can we stop there for a minute. So I did

579
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 3: a podcast on Friday morning with only knowing what happened

580
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 3: in round one, and I thought, I understand, you traded

581
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 3: away from what I think is the best player in

582
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 3: this draft, and that may go down as like given

583
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 3: Atlanta Julio Jones, and you take Brandon Whedon. I mean,

584
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 3: that might be the history here, maybe, but I thought

585
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,479
Speaker 3: with the shape of their roster, they're not really in

586
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 3: a position to maximize Hunter without an O line, without

587
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 3: a quarterback in place, So they got a lot to

588
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 3: move out of two. So I'm like, I think I

589
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 3: would have made that trade. Jackson'll give up too much,

590
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 3: I agreed, So I'm like, I think I would have

591
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 3: made that trade too, not knowing what happened in round

592
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 3: two and three. Then they take Graham, who I think

593
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 3: is vastly overrated.

594
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 2: Folks. That's Matt Williamson saying that, not Dale Lowly. I

595
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 2: just want to make that clear now.

596
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 3: I will say too that I would hate to pick

597
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 3: four or five this year. I think Campbell's overrated. I

598
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 3: think Graham's overrated. I would have taken Membo, but there

599
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 3: isn't a slam dunk pick there, and I would not

600
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 3: have taken genty. So I thought, Okay, they're being very

601
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 3: self introspective here. We can't handle Hunter, so we're going

602
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 3: to build our lines of scrimmage with a lot of

603
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 3: solid big men.

604
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 2: And they didn't do it.

605
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 3: The rest of the draft and they don't draft offensive lineman.

606
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 3: This might least fair drafting hole in the whole, the

607
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 3: whole thirty two.

608
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 2: At pick thirty three, they take linebacker Carson Swesssinger out

609
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 2: of UCLA, who is a fine player. They're all fine players,

610
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 2: but none of them are premium positions and none of

611
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 2: them are O linemen. Yeah, having a bunch of running

612
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 2: backs and quarterbacks doesn't do any good if nobody blocks

613
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 2: for you and backup tight ends. Yeah, I hate this draft.

614
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 2: I love the resources. I understood the beginning, but they

615
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 2: should have three OH linemen on this list with the

616
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 2: pick they had three of the top thirty six picks. Yeah,

617
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 2: they come out of quin Shawn Judkins, the running back

618
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 2: out of Ohio State with their second second round pick

619
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 2: them I like, I liked the players, like Mason. I

620
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 2: didn't think Mason Graham was was good enough to be

621
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 2: the fifth overall if you had taken them at fifteen, right,

622
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 2: I get.

623
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 3: It, But then who would you have taken a five.

624
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 3: There wasn't a slam Don I was taking genty. I

625
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 3: would take Hi Membo, you know. But yeah, okay, none

626
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 3: of them are.

627
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 2: But then you have those two early third round or

628
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 2: second round picks, and you don't take an offensive lineman. There,

629
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 2: I'm with you. I think it's ridiculous. And then Fannin

630
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,719
Speaker 2: and Gabriel to me are really bad picks. That's so

631
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 2: they take Harold fann and Junior at sixty seven. Yes,

632
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 2: who's a pass catching tight end? Who's a backup for you?

633
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 2: You have David and Joku, who you're paying a bunch

634
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 2: of money to to be your pass catching tight end. Right.

635
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 3: I know they like to employ two and three and

636
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 3: blah blah blah, but I don't understand that pick at all.

637
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 3: And you can't convince me that Dylan Gabriel's worth a

638
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 3: Day two pick.

639
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 2: They took Dylan Gabriel ninety four. They traded up, traded up,

640
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 2: They traded picks away to take Dylan Gabriel ninety four.

641
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,479
Speaker 2: Then doubled down at running back in round four at

642
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 2: one twenty six, taking running back Dylan Samson out of Tennessee.

643
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 3: This is all the easy stuff to find. Backup quarterbacks

644
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 3: and running backs and backup tight ends. I mean those

645
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 3: even off the ball linebackers. These are not hard things

646
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 3: to fix.

647
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 2: And then they and then they added in the fifth

648
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 2: round Shador Sanders, because you can't. You got a double

649
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 2: down at quarterback. That's actually my favorite pick for that

650
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 2: I get the value of it. He might be a quarterback.

651
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 2: Now I've heard he might be a distraction.

652
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 3: Well he's going to be a distraction, yeah, you know,

653
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 3: but he's good at football, and I think he's he's

654
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 3: hopefully motivated, and motivation.

655
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 2: Has ever had a problem with the guy. He's tough,

656
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 2: and he was his dad, his his father. Who's the

657
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 2: head coach at Colorado We all know you say. Coach

658
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 2: put out a tweet two months ago into this process

659
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 2: that I don't know what the Browns are doing if

660
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 2: if they draft, if they draft Shador, we may just pully, right,

661
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 2: Browns aren't good enough for my side. We might we

662
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 2: might pully John Elway or a Manning here and not

663
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 2: going Maco. Well, now you're a fifth round pick.

664
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Speaker 3: So I kind of got indications from insiders today that

665
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 3: this pick was the owner saying, now go get sand

666
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,239
Speaker 3: We've been waiting here forever. We're the team to do it,

667
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 3: which to me is fine. At one hundred and forty four,

668
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 3: I don't even care about the distraction, But now you're

669
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 3: gonna go in Dylan Gabriel.

670
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 2: That's the that's the crime to me. Now, you used

671
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 2: a ninety fourth pick in this draft on Dylan Gabriel.

672
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 3: To me, that's the absolute crime. And a second running

673
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 3: back and a backup tight end and no alignment.

674
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 2: I mean, like, this is what's called not having a plan, right,

675
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 2: I mean, okay, everything started with the Hunter trade. You

676
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 2: might have two picks in the top twelve or in

677
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 2: the top fifteen. That's quarterback time. This isn't nest building.

678
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 2: This is the cherry on top stuff. This is just

679
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 2: throwing darts at the board and saying, oh I, we'll

680
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 2: just take this guy. And that I don't get it.

681
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 2: And if Shador or if Gabriel or especially Shador looks

682
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 2: like they could be good for you, you got a

683
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 2: block form. I mean, the reason the Browns were successful

684
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,760
Speaker 2: for that stint with Chubb and.

685
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 3: Why off line it was the line. I just don't

686
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 3: understand the team building philosophy here at all. And Kuiper

687
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 3: gave him an a plus because they took your door.

688
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 2: Of course everyone gives them its great because we know

689
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 2: these No Kuiper and I have respect for what mel too.

690
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 2: He lost his mind, but hey, Mel, you don't know

691
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 2: more than NFL teams don't act like a jackass on

692
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 2: the radio or on the on the on the air

693
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 2: every time some team passes on on shed Door Sanders.

694
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 3: I couldn't watch any of it because we have the

695
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 3: volume killed and on that, but you could see him go.

696
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 2: But everyone my son's texted me like, what's up with Kuiper?

697
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 2: You know, like because he it was like he was

698
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 2: Sdor Sanders' family member, right right, right, come on, man, right,

699
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 2: all right, you should know better. Teams are telling you

700
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 2: something here, right, And he never gives an a plus,

701
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 2: so he gives an a plus so that he can

702
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 2: say that you know and told you. And he's one

703
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 2: of the ones that killed the Steelers because they didn't

704
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 2: take it. They didn't take Shador Sanders. Maybe they didn't

705
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 2: want should Door Sanders. These guys like take it personally, Yeah,

706
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 2: I had him as my number one rated quarterback. You

707
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 2: were the only one, Mel, and you were wrong, and

708
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 2: you were wrong, you were wrong And what was the

709
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 2: seventh quarterback take and something like that went after Dylan

710
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 2: Gabriel for God's sakes. That tells me only know which

711
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 2: means the Gabriel picks a bat. It's a bad one.

712
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 2: It's a bad I would completely agree with that. They

713
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 2: should not have taken I couldn't believe they took Dylan

714
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 2: Gabriel a center. Take a guard, I mean, over, take

715
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 2: a guard. Take it. I don't care if they took

716
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 2: taking a seventh cornerback, it would have made more sense

717
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 2: than taking another quarterback then. I mean, everyone talked about, boy,

718
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 2: it wouldn't it be great to add Carter with Garrett. Well,

719
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 2: they didn't take another pass rusher either. Yeah, you know

720
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like, don't give me tight ends and

721
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 2: second d edges all the way through this draft and

722
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 2: you didn't take didn't take one or no lineman. That's

723
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 2: they taking Jack swear there, right, it would have made

724
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 2: a lot more sense. It'd have been a contributor, right exactly.

725
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 2: I hate their draft, I really do. The Browns is

726
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 2: the Browns yep. Again, As a famous philosopher, Juju Smith

727
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 2: Schuster once said, so.

728
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 3: Shaudors off the field entourage stuff aside. Now you go

729
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 3: into camp trying to divvy out reps between Gabriel, Sanders, Picket,

730
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 3: and Flacco.

731
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 2: That's why I doesn't need many because he's been in

732
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 2: that system at least, right, But the other three guys

733
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:05,240
Speaker 2: do You don't.

734
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 3: Even know who your opening a starter is, which some

735
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 3: teams don't, and at this second, the Steelers don't either.

736
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 3: But that's hard on your coaching staff. You got four guys,

737
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 3: all of whom are probably gonna make the team.

738
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 2: It's gonna be It has to be Flacco, it has

739
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 2: to be I assume unless Kenny shines, it's not gonna

740
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 2: be Sanders or Gabriel. How many snaps is Pickett gonna get?

741
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 2: I know, like it's because you can get You've got

742
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 2: two rookie quarterbacks on your Like, are you gonna make

743
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 2: a decision in mini camp? Are you gonna play? Are

744
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 2: you gonna give Shador Sanders snaps over Dylan Gabriel. I'm

745
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 2: wondering how they're gonna handle that because you because he's

746
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 2: drafted him fifty spots ahead of him, right, but I

747
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 2: think Sanders is better. I do too, right, and they

748
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 2: do too. But what you did here taking him fifty

749
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 2: picks later tells me that right, Gabriel pick to me

750
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 2: is a total mistake. I don't know. I don't like

751
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 2: any of it. The circus has come to town. Yeah,

752
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 2: and that's what it looks like. So it looks like

753
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 2: two backs, two quarterbacks. I mean, that's crazy Talk Center. Anyways,

754
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 2: there's some other interesting stuff that happened in the draft,

755
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 2: but that was the AFC North. We'll continue to yhack

756
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 2: about all the other teams and what they did in

757
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 2: the draft as well in the coming weeks here, but

758
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 2: let's get to another break. He is the Matt Williamson.

759
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,879
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00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,120
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766
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,279
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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly. And Matt willilliam SI

773
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven Home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

775
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:13,280
Speaker 2: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lolly. He is the Matt Williamson

776
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 2: and Matt. We've gone over the names of the players

777
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 2: that the Steelers have drafted in the twenty twenty five draft.

778
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 2: We play a little game here. We're gonna say this

779
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 2: at the same time and see what we come up with. Here.

780
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 2: Your favorite picked by the Steelers not right in three

781
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 2: count of three one two three cal Johnson.

782
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean Harmon was right there, but he

783
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 3: expected that. Yeah, and say that's kind of choky. And

784
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 3: but I will say Grant Goes, Nolan Goes.

785
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,479
Speaker 2: Got a little nervous. The Johnson. Both of those picks

786
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 2: were like Omar has some he's zones.

787
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 3: Just sticking with it, hanging with it. I do think

788
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 3: the Broncos did you a bit of a favor taking

789
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 3: Harvey instead of Johnson, and all of a sudden, you know,

790
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 3: you get him as a six running back off the

791
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 3: board I think where he really should have been the

792
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 3: top five and they jumped on it. But man, we

793
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 3: even talked about alive, like maybe a trade up here,

794
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 3: you know, Yeah, that's too good a fit.

795
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 2: It's a great fit. And people are questioning his forty time,

796
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 2: which was four point five seven seconds, and the ten

797
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 2: or split wasn't great either. Yeah, here's the thing. They

798
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 2: do GPS measurements at all these schools, and he reached

799
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 2: He's reached as high as he's done twenty one a

800
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 2: bunch of times, which is moving. Got his fastest twenty

801
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 2: two mile an hour on GPS measurements on field. That

802
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 2: translates into the four threes right, running a forty, and

803
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 2: there are only a handful of players in the NFL

804
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 2: who have hit twenty two miles per hour, one of

805
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,240
Speaker 2: them being dk metcalf.

806
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 3: Yep, I don't think speed is an issue. I'm looking

807
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 3: for it now. There's some I tweeted it, but there's

808
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 3: a ton of long runs.

809
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 2: I mean, okay, he that's a long one. I'll find

810
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 2: at some point. But he does have a lot.

811
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 3: Of long touchdown runs where he's not caught. He was

812
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:17,280
Speaker 3: at the combine at Shoo twenty five and didn't run great,

813
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 3: But he went to his pro day at two thirty five,

814
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 3: didn't run. But to me, I bet those GPS numbers

815
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 3: were from a two hundred and thirty five pound back,

816
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 3: and I know he's a track background going back to

817
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 3: high school, but shorts and underwear coming out of the

818
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 3: blocks on a straight thing as opposed to ball in

819
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 3: hand with pads on at two thirty five. I'll trust

820
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 3: the other numbers more than that. And the breakaway runs, yeah,

821
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 3: a lot of them.

822
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 2: He's a really good outside zone runner, yep, in the

823
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 2: Arian Foster mode very much. So. Yeah, he's just very

824
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 2: decisive when he makes that cut. I've seen some other

825
00:41:55,440 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 2: people compare him to Le'Veon Bell in terms of, you know,

826
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 2: Le'Veon wasn't a My pursuits are pretty stuck on that

827
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 2: right now. Le'Veon was a four five to five for

828
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 2: you know, between four five five and four to six. Guy.

829
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,240
Speaker 2: Now he did that at two hundred and forty pounds

830
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 2: and then continue to drop weight to get down there

831
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 2: like two twenty five and even lower than that over

832
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 2: the course with steeler career, nobody runs like Le'Veon.

833
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 3: I say, I always talk about this, like with great backs,

834
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 3: it's they're like great guitar players, like I could hear

835
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,720
Speaker 3: clap them play three notes and be like, let's clap,

836
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 3: and then Bell's.

837
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 2: In that category. I mean, yeah, the stop Star stuff

838
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 2: was nuts. Nobody else like stop matrix like they were

839
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 2: running in the matrix and let guys will fly by

840
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 2: him and then takes off that way.

841
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 3: But the pursuitter's point is the vision, the hit it

842
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 3: when you can big back. I hope Johnson turns in

843
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 3: and close to a receiving threat that Bell does. That's

844
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 3: just an incomplete They don't flow the ball. I mean,

845
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 3: I think it'll be fine in protection, but that's a projection.

846
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 2: That's a projection. Yeah, if he gets to eleven on

847
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 2: a Bell, I mean again, these are high praise, sign

848
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 2: me up now. In fact, if he gets me Arian

849
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,439
Speaker 2: Foster signed me up. Yeah, that guy was really good

850
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:10,760
Speaker 2: for Yeah. Yeah, so you know, I just he doesn't

851
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 2: worry me, not at all. And I definitely think he's

852
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 2: more breakaway potential than Nausey. I know that. Yeah, he

853
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,720
Speaker 2: showed that over time and again, you know, in college,

854
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 2: and you know I understand that that nause broke some

855
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 2: long runs in college, yeah as well, but nause was

856
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 2: doing that with some great wide receivers on the outside.

857
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Waddle and Vonta. Yeah, guys who are legit.

858
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 2: Four three and better guys on the outside. That the

859
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 2: scariest receivers in the league. There was no safety in

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00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 2: the box. Johnson was doing this against loaded boxes where

861
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 2: everybody in the stadium knew he was getting the football,

862
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 2: and he's still breaking long runs.

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Speaker 3: It's sponkers, I mean, because again I had it here

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Speaker 3: a second ago.

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Speaker 2: I just got rid of it. Nobody faced loaded boxes

866
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 2: more in college football last year. I'll sort of Ashton

867
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 2: genty than this guy. Right.

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Speaker 3: It's the whole world is lined up against him because

869
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 3: he's the entire threat. And some of the stuff you

870
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Speaker 3: find just digging through the advanced numbers is crazy.

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Speaker 2: He might as well have been out there in a

872
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 2: red jersey when everybody else is wearing black. That's the guy.

873
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Speaker 2: He's getting the football. Go get him. So he was

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Speaker 2: contact on runs that he was contacted behind the line

875
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Speaker 2: of scrimmage, Basically people didn't block anybody. Yeah, and he

876
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Speaker 2: still averaged one point nine yards per carry on those runs,

877
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Speaker 2: which is the sixty seven percent. Yeah, ninety nine is

878
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 2: where you want to be. But if he got to

879
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Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage without being contacted, he averaged ten

880
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 2: point two yards per carry. Just get him to the

881
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage. I mean that was the ninety sixth percent.

882
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Speaker 2: Now it's like him and gent pretty good. Yeah. Yeah,

883
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 2: he's averaging over ten yards of carry if he's not

884
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 2: hit behind the line of scrimmage. That's insane to me.

885
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Speaker 2: I mean, in fact, he faced stack boxes over fifty

886
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 2: percent of his career runs with eight or more in

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Speaker 2: the box. No one else was at thirty nine percent

888
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Speaker 2: from this class quarterback, says Chuck Long Right, right right,

889
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Speaker 2: I mean I just haven't and he is the only

890
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Speaker 2: show And look him up, younger listeners, he was. He

891
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 2: was pretty good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was like third Hives and boats and yeah,

893
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 3: gunslinger type. He was kind of fun. Yeah, but that

894
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 3: was I was young. That was in the eighties early eighties.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a while, Yeah, but no, I think

896
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 2: he's his life might get easier in the pros. I

897
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 2: think those two big receivers on the outside will certainly

898
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 2: help that. Yeah, yeah, I got a load of boxes

899
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Speaker 2: is going to go down. I just think that's just

900
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 2: a home run of a pick. I can't believe he

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Speaker 2: was there at eighty three.

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Speaker 3: Right, just shorty time helped the Steelers. Yeah, and same

903
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 3: with the receiving uncertainty. I don't want to say lack

904
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Speaker 3: of receiving because for the ball.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So to me, that was easily the best pick,

906
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Speaker 2: I mean, the best value everything. Yeah, just kind of

907
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 2: just lined up stars aligned on that one, like oh okay,

908
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 2: and so we're like, who could take them? Maybe the

909
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 2: Texans were weird running the like me, since he could happened,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, okay, do we need to trade up

911
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 2: here for that to happen or is that? Uh?

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Speaker 3: And I think it helped the Steelers that at that point,

913
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Speaker 3: what five or six running backs have been taken? How

914
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Speaker 3: many teams really had a running back need? Is someone

915
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 3: going to trade up ahead of the Steelers and have

916
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Speaker 3: them Probably not for that position. So hold your water

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Speaker 3: and man, that worked out.

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Speaker 2: It really did. And I think that the draft worked

919
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Speaker 2: out pretty well overall for the Steelers. We'll find out.

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Speaker 2: Oh we haven't seen any of these guys play yet

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Speaker 2: in a Steelers uniform, but uh yeah, that's what the

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Speaker 2: off season program is for. And well that's gonna do

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Speaker 2: it for our program today. So for my partner Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 2: for Justin Miller here on site running the Justin Miller

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Speaker 2: hot line and the soundboard, and for Tyler Viittmeyer making

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Speaker 2: sure our video gets out there onto YouTube. Check it

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Speaker 2: out there, give us a thumbs up. We appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: I am Dale Lally. We thank you for listening to

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Speaker 2: this edition of the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network.