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Speaker 1: It's all coming up. On the cut to It podcast,
Speaker 1: We've got Jerome the Bus. Vettis induct into the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame and he won a Super Bowl with the Steelers.
Speaker 1: Drafted by the Rams, one of the all time best
Speaker 1: running backs in the NFL history. Jerome bettis on the
Speaker 1: Cut to It podcast. How do you think the game
Speaker 1: of football in the NFL has changed good and bad? Well,
Speaker 1: it's it's good and bad in one way, and that
Speaker 1: obviously they're conscious of of, you know, contact to the head,
Speaker 1: which has in turn, uh forced a lot of rules
Speaker 1: and regulations on the game that has softened the game
Speaker 1: and made it more um of a passing game because
Speaker 1: if you don't have if if the wide receiver don't
Speaker 1: have to really have a fear of getting getting knocked
Speaker 1: out going across the middle of the field. Uh, then
Speaker 1: it creates a huge advantage for an offensive player. So
Speaker 1: from that standpoint, the game has evolved two more of
Speaker 1: a passing game, which makes total sense. I get it
Speaker 1: that that that's the positive, and that these guys are
Speaker 1: are not getting that that beating that they were taking
Speaker 1: physically anymore. But the negative is that it's not your
Speaker 1: grandmother's nfl UM. It's a much watered down version of
Speaker 1: a game that we grew up playing loving. Um. So
Speaker 1: you know that's the plus enough minus if you will
Speaker 1: let me ask you, though, do you think going across
Speaker 1: the middle? The only thing I dislike about that them
Speaker 1: changing that is the head Why is the dislike that
Speaker 1: I dislike? I dislike them changing you know, the head
Speaker 1: hits because it gives the excuse for the defenders to
Speaker 1: hit guys load now, like you see guys hitting low
Speaker 1: like I mean, I obviously I'm not a good example,
Speaker 1: but some of these wide receivers are six four. You're
Speaker 1: telling me, out of six four you only can manage
Speaker 1: to hit the dude in his knee. Yeah, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I see it. Especially tight ends tight ends are taking
Speaker 1: a run of it because they're just not even trying
Speaker 1: to even go anywhere close. They're saying, we're going low,
Speaker 1: and we're telling you that, and and that is that's
Speaker 1: the unfortant, unfortunate byproduct of what's all happening now is
Speaker 1: that you're you're gonna see more injuries, more leg injuries,
Speaker 1: more knees getting tore up, getting ripped up, um, more
Speaker 1: injuries to the abdomen, more injuries to the lower leg.
Speaker 1: It's just part of the the evolution of now. Instead
Speaker 1: of the head shots, you know, you're gonna get knee shots.
Speaker 1: And that's the problem that is that in your career
Speaker 1: um pretty quickly, so most offenders don't even want to engage.
Speaker 1: That's the part that that's the part I'm struggling with
Speaker 1: is yes, you don't have to hit the player in
Speaker 1: the head, but that there's times I haven't got a
Speaker 1: rib separated, like most of the time when you know,
Speaker 1: obviously I'm not um in the range with Bettus, but
Speaker 1: I remember playing and Troy and all these guys will
Speaker 1: hit you. Man, you go across the middle for the
Speaker 1: most time, guys wouldn't aim't for your head, but they're not.
Speaker 1: They're not the win out of you. They hit you
Speaker 1: in between the numbers. For sure. The guys don't want
Speaker 1: to take the risk anymore. It's not worth it, you know,
Speaker 1: because that's what that's the way I see these guys
Speaker 1: look at it. Now, they're saying, Hey, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna I'm just gonna take the shot low.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna worry about you know that mid area
Speaker 1: under you know, underneath your chin and and you know
Speaker 1: kind of in that No, they're not even they're not
Speaker 1: even trying to anymore, because what's happening now is if
Speaker 1: the receiver even kind of pitches down now, they still
Speaker 1: get defined. So now they're like, Okay, screw it, We're
Speaker 1: not even gonna try. We're gonna take the shot low.
Speaker 1: And I just think it's so bad because every hit
Speaker 1: is a potential injury for for a receiver or tight
Speaker 1: end is really really dangerous. Um. Uh. Now as opposed
Speaker 1: to the fear of you taking uh, you know, getting
Speaker 1: your clock clean going across the middle. Um. You know
Speaker 1: you you you say yourself, you know what, I'll take
Speaker 1: that one time, um because you most most you know,
Speaker 1: in the game, there may be one or two plays
Speaker 1: where you're running the risk of taking that kind of shot.
Speaker 1: But there's gonna be ten plays where you take the
Speaker 1: risk of a guy going low, because that's every time
Speaker 1: you catch it, take going low. So you got ten
Speaker 1: times versus that one or two times in a game.
Speaker 1: So that's a scary pirst. I also think they don't
Speaker 1: know how to tackle anymore the same way. No, it's
Speaker 1: not taught. Man. I'm watching some of these new tackle
Speaker 1: Like I saw a guy tackle the other day and
Speaker 1: I'm like, if I was playing the next play I'm
Speaker 1: talking about the next play, I would go hit that
Speaker 1: dude on his knee. Wow. And here's why, yes, because
Speaker 1: he doesn't even attempt like you're gonna try to. Because
Speaker 1: if you hit me on my knees and you in
Speaker 1: my career, so I take it as you have no
Speaker 1: regard for my career. And so if you have no
Speaker 1: regard for my career, that means you don't respect me.
Speaker 1: So I would tell a guy, hey, the next time
Speaker 1: I see you, meaning in play, expect the bouquet. We're
Speaker 1: trying to cut down. It's not is it really making
Speaker 1: the game? Say? I literally asked, got one time I
Speaker 1: say what color roses you want? He was like, what's
Speaker 1: that to me? Because I'm gonna hit you on your knee,
Speaker 1: and when they do your surgery, I'll send you some roses.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say sorry, because that's because when you
Speaker 1: start to hit people low and you oh, I don't
Speaker 1: want to I don't want you to get I don't
Speaker 1: want to get fine. I don't know about you, Jerome,
Speaker 1: but I know for myself and my wife used to
Speaker 1: getting mad at me. I would have a certain amount
Speaker 1: of money set aside. And I know because it would
Speaker 1: it would be fine like socks, you know how you
Speaker 1: looked or had no control over, or it would be
Speaker 1: something that happened again, that would happen in the game,
Speaker 1: and you go at some point in the game, you're
Speaker 1: gonna lose your cool and you're gonna take a ten
Speaker 1: thousand dollar fun. That's just that's just the way that
Speaker 1: he gives. So just be prepared for it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I say that. Um what I remember for myself, just
Speaker 1: like you're going to Hawaii getting voted to the Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl with such an honor, why do you need players
Speaker 1: today now see it almost as a nuisance, as like
Speaker 1: I gotta get on this flight. I gotta go across
Speaker 1: the world. Like I remember, it was like a family vent,
Speaker 1: like when you got to the Pro Bowl. I remember
Speaker 1: going to the Pro Bowl and seeing other players, and
Speaker 1: you'll be at the pool and you're like, you know,
Speaker 1: like Shannon Sharp, you know, seeing him do push ups
Speaker 1: at the pool, right, or guys you're you know, you're
Speaker 1: the rookie, or you the first year even though you
Speaker 1: may be in your fourth year, year first time and
Speaker 1: this first time program, are you still a rookie? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I was always told do not give your room number
Speaker 1: to any veterans because they ordered everything running up, running
Speaker 1: running up, and they asked you, Hey, what room you're at?
Speaker 1: You you don't know? Okay, you get the bill, You're
Speaker 1: like what they or at the bar, at the bar,
Speaker 1: at the bar, the pool, who got you? If you
Speaker 1: were a rookie, if you stay out by the pool,
Speaker 1: you're gonna get hamburged. So you better keep away from
Speaker 1: the pool. Uh. When you're a rookie, it was like,
Speaker 1: but but guess what you know what that is? I'll
Speaker 1: tell you the problem. Tell me the problem. It came
Speaker 1: from the quarterbacks. Okay, So the quarterbacks started this, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna go. Let this other guy go. And then
Speaker 1: it then it went from the quarterbacks to the diva's
Speaker 1: you guys, and the diva's y'all receivers um. Then y'all
Speaker 1: started to y'all started to to to say I'm good,
Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm good, I'm good. And so it ended
Speaker 1: up the cool thing to do was to was to
Speaker 1: to get the nod and not go. It has to
Speaker 1: be a sense of urgency from the vetteran guys, right,
Speaker 1: So because you know Tom Brady, he you know, his
Speaker 1: first couple of years, he was going to all of them,
Speaker 1: and a lot of parties stopped going. It's like, when
Speaker 1: the veteran guys are there, then the younger guys get inlivee.
Speaker 1: When the veteran guys don't go, then then now the
Speaker 1: other the younger, the young guy who's who's the superstar?
Speaker 1: The young stars, like, man, why am I on when
Speaker 1: these guys not there? I don't want to be there.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be the only one they're right,
Speaker 1: And so it just kind of watered it down, and
Speaker 1: I just think it has to be it has to
Speaker 1: start from the top. When the veteran guys are there,
Speaker 1: then the younger guys getting love like anything else that's crazy?
Speaker 1: Was that are my last Pro Bowl I went to
Speaker 1: I think, I mean seven we had two people with us.
Speaker 1: We had I literally brought like thirty two people like
Speaker 1: I brought up. It was it was important to everybody.
Speaker 1: Josh McCown his family. I brought friends. I brought my uncle,
Speaker 1: my mom, yeah, I mean my my wife's family. Like
Speaker 1: it was a huge events. And just lost his luster.
Speaker 1: I just you know, but then you also, I also
Speaker 1: think like you shouldn't celebrate the dude, he's the four
Speaker 1: team alternative, like you know, and and that's what and
Speaker 1: that's what happened. When when those guys when you started,
Speaker 1: when you started to to hey, don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: We'll get to get the next guy, and we'll get
Speaker 1: the next guy, the next guy and then the fourth
Speaker 1: team alternate. He can now stay he's a problem. Yes,
Speaker 1: when when you really didn't get voted in. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't like that. I thought it was the same
Speaker 1: to him. I wanted to ask an old head of
Speaker 1: old gidn't like it? Man, I hate that. I hate
Speaker 1: that when guys don't when guys don't go because it
Speaker 1: waters down the product um and it hurts ultimately the
Speaker 1: game itself because now the stars, you're not gonna see
Speaker 1: the stars there, right, So what what good is it
Speaker 1: if if the star is not going? And and it
Speaker 1: started with the quarterbacks starting to starting to pass on
Speaker 1: it obviously me playing and being a Baltimore Raven and
Speaker 1: you being a Pittsburgh Steeler. Man, take us through that
Speaker 1: rival that rivalry. You can watch it on you can
Speaker 1: watch it. And when I first got to Baltimore, they
Speaker 1: asked me to talk to you know, talk to I
Speaker 1: think the Pittsburgh is at and talked, talked to the
Speaker 1: to the newspaper and tell me what it is. And
Speaker 1: then once I experienced it, man, it's nothing like it,
Speaker 1: you know, just I mean you you go look back
Speaker 1: how Hines knocked out Ed Reid, right, just all of
Speaker 1: that stuff. What what you described the Baltimore Raven and
Speaker 1: Pittsburg blood bath rivalry as they call it, the a
Speaker 1: f C, the NFC North Black and Blue Division. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So so that that one was. That was the game.
Speaker 1: Because in years I'll started because early on I had
Speaker 1: a unique perspective in that you know, we we were
Speaker 1: beating up on them before when Ray got there. So
Speaker 1: Ray was a rookie, uh you know, all the way through.
Speaker 1: I got a chance to see his progression, right, and
Speaker 1: early on we were we We beat him, no problem.
Speaker 1: And then they they they made a big jump, right,
Speaker 1: and then they became good. And so what happened was
Speaker 1: we were all we were beating them and it wasn't
Speaker 1: a robbery. And then they got really good, really quick. Defensively,
Speaker 1: they they found that Marvin Lewis I think was the
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. He kind of got them going and boomed
Speaker 1: all of a sudden they ready to go. And so
Speaker 1: year in and year out, they they built the team
Speaker 1: to beat us because at the time we were we
Speaker 1: were the big dog in the division. It was US,
Speaker 1: it was US, Tennessee Jacksonville, Okay, And so Baltimore was
Speaker 1: was the low man on the totlem poe And so
Speaker 1: it was between US and Tennessee really who were the
Speaker 1: the the top dogs. And so they were coming and
Speaker 1: once they arrived, they put everybody on notice. Right, It's
Speaker 1: like no, no, no, we were for real. And so
Speaker 1: when we started to play them, it became like it
Speaker 1: was already tough because they were the Cleveland you know, Browns,
Speaker 1: and then they came over, so there was always still
Speaker 1: that disdain because they were the Cleveland Browns and we
Speaker 1: that was our biggest ride. We hated the Browns. So
Speaker 1: when they moved, it's still we you know, the hatred
Speaker 1: moved with them, right. So so that's kind of how it.
Speaker 1: It was already there the dislike, and then when they
Speaker 1: got good, then it was like, oh okay. So so
Speaker 1: then then they had the swag. They came with the swag, right,
Speaker 1: and that was that was Ray and bringing that that
Speaker 1: Florida uh u m swag right, And then they started
Speaker 1: talking ship and we were like, okay, little the little
Speaker 1: little stuff, I want to talk shit, okay. And then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, then they started pounding us. We
Speaker 1: were like whoa. And then then that's when it hit
Speaker 1: another level in terms of when they could beat us
Speaker 1: consistently and then we could beat them, uh consistently uh
Speaker 1: and and each game you didn't know who was gonna win,
Speaker 1: right uh. And so for instance, the year the year
Speaker 1: they won their first Super Bowl, we were the last
Speaker 1: team to beat them, you know what I'm saying, And
Speaker 1: it was like nobody else could beat them. We know
Speaker 1: how to beat them because you know we they they
Speaker 1: were built to beat us, and we were built to
Speaker 1: beat them. And so every year going forward it was
Speaker 1: always a I mean a drag out, a blood bath.
Speaker 1: It was a war. We knew you you playing Baltimore.
Speaker 1: All right, just put the big paths on. Let's get ready.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be physical. It's gonna be sixty minutes. And
Speaker 1: it don't matter who if somebody is tending tending old
Speaker 1: or four and eight, it don't matter, right, you don't
Speaker 1: get their best shot and and and they don't get
Speaker 1: your best shot. And and that's just kind of how
Speaker 1: it was, how it developed. And it has not changed
Speaker 1: a bit since that day, um when when they stood
Speaker 1: up and said no more, no more guys, uh, and
Speaker 1: they start punching back. And it's been it's been Haymakers
Speaker 1: ever since. So it's the it's the hell of a rivalry.
Speaker 1: And I think I tell people all the time, it's
Speaker 1: the most heated rivalry, but it's the most um from
Speaker 1: a from a football perspective, it's the best of all
Speaker 1: of them, because you're gonna see great football. Uh. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be a defensive battle it's gonna be offenses scrapping
Speaker 1: to big plays. I mean and and and it's it's
Speaker 1: just gonna be those individual moments where God make a
Speaker 1: just a collective break play. It's gonna take those kind
Speaker 1: of plays to win the game. Whoever were? I love
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Speaker 1: social media star, are comedian, actor, and TV host, But
Speaker 1: not many people even though he was an eight year
Speaker 1: veteran in the NFL for the forty Honors and the
Speaker 1: Bears dead Man Walking? Did you it was the context
Speaker 1: and dead Man Walking? We all got sprints. We all
Speaker 1: got these runs. We gotta do. Everybody damn man walking,
Speaker 1: it's like this. He literally looks like a dead man walking.
Speaker 1: So the coach like Yoda walking. You might want to
Speaker 1: move out the way we run the sprints. Oh, you
Speaker 1: always gotta do this out of shape. I'm not always
Speaker 1: lying no or d lin I ain't really experienced. Listen,
Speaker 1: don't don't do that. He took offense to see. I
Speaker 1: felt like how you felt when Mike then it was alignment.
Speaker 1: I didn't say which. I said, either you can put
Speaker 1: defense or I've been filling the plank. I felt the tact.
Speaker 1: I'm I apologize because some of y'alls, it would be
Speaker 1: some running backs who just can't do it, especially like
Speaker 1: when it come to long distance. Yeah, yeah, y'all WI receievers,
Speaker 1: y'all spreads man, Yeah, some of us. I ain't even
Speaker 1: gonna ask you following a question on that because I
Speaker 1: don't want you. It's not not every not every fast
Speaker 1: guy can sprint like consistently, So you know, you have
Speaker 1: to have gassers. Like there's some guys that they can run.
Speaker 1: They're like a they're like a cheap piece of gum.
Speaker 1: Like we're gone ten seconds. Yeah, you know it just
Speaker 1: don't have yes bigly to you. But one of those
Speaker 1: garbage pale kids with the chalk, the chalk, the chocolatey gum.
Speaker 1: You're chalking, and I'm like, what did you just around
Speaker 1: high school? Dude? I ran um, I ran uh hunter
Speaker 1: meter hurdles, three thirty hurdles And he was gonna say
Speaker 1: hurdles dog. Just from the way he played, I knew
Speaker 1: he was gonna say her. Really tell me what like
Speaker 1: the way you got him and get the rock. It
Speaker 1: is either I had to be like long jump or
Speaker 1: I mean I jump, or like some type of hurdles
Speaker 1: or something, some type of bounding. Yes, look at you
Speaker 1: and Bunny. I don't really into like skilled positions, bro,
Speaker 1: especially running back, because running backs are the most disrespected
Speaker 1: athlete as far as when it comes to like money
Speaker 1: and contracts and stuff like that, and how it's like
Speaker 1: a revolving door with them, Like there's no reason why
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson should have played for five six teams. He
Speaker 1: should not be a journeyman. Like you gotta get that
Speaker 1: man in respect he deserved, like for real, like that
Speaker 1: man could still go what does the mort like I
Speaker 1: think the market gets like that because you have a
Speaker 1: guy like DeMarco Murray who was fantastic and then went
Speaker 1: to a different system and it wasn't as effective in
Speaker 1: that system and then later pretty much didn't play after that.
Speaker 1: That only made you garbage. Though I didn't say it
Speaker 1: was Garden, I'm not saying you, but yeah, no, no,
Speaker 1: he was a beast. But circumstances and play calling and
Speaker 1: offensive coordinators and schemes can enhance what a player already has,
Speaker 1: and then a bad system can expose a player and
Speaker 1: what he may not do well. Like you noticed some
Speaker 1: some running backs, like the whole plethora running backs in
Speaker 1: San Francisco for nineers, how that running scheme has made
Speaker 1: all of those running backs really good. But yet in
Speaker 1: those running backs have moved on to other teams who
Speaker 1: don't have that same um um, that same of running style.
Speaker 1: And that's in that offense that you know that edge
Speaker 1: get out on the edge throw, well they don't they're
Speaker 1: not as they're not as effective, they don't have the
Speaker 1: same kind of impact. To see it, I hate to
Speaker 1: see it. Yeah, I mean it happens all the time.
Speaker 1: That's just like I'm a four three guy, Like I'm
Speaker 1: skinning and grinning. I'm shooting the gap. No responsibility, just penetrate,
Speaker 1: go go, don't think, just go. I love not to
Speaker 1: think like I got a gap boom, let's do it.
Speaker 1: But I know what I'm supposed to do. Yeah, came
Speaker 1: over the Sacisco with that three four. I'm like, I
Speaker 1: gotta I gotta get it all the way to three thirty.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be I can't move three thirty.
Speaker 1: Oh man, they want me to be too gaping and
Speaker 1: go let the linebacker gonna make the play. I could
Speaker 1: go make it. Let me go do it like oh man,
Speaker 1: that's it is different, bro, It's different. And then a
Speaker 1: lot of times and they've got nothing to do with
Speaker 1: your ability, to do with your knowledge of the game,
Speaker 1: nothing to do with your effort, none of that. It's
Speaker 1: just like sometimes coaches come in, they like what they like.
Speaker 1: And what that also happens to is they you have
Speaker 1: coaches who believe their system it's more valuable than the players. Yes,
Speaker 1: that that's funny. You brought up Mike Nolan, because Mike Nolan,
Speaker 1: when he has the right when he has all the
Speaker 1: right players, Mike Nolan's defense is rocking and rolling. But
Speaker 1: when he doesn't have the right players allied Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: That's why he gotta let go because his his system,
Speaker 1: there's not enhanced all eleven men in the defense. It
Speaker 1: only really enhances a few guys, the linebackers. If you
Speaker 1: have the right type of front front three or front
Speaker 1: four that can neutralize and allow the back um to
Speaker 1: allow the linebacker to be hitting the the running back.
Speaker 1: But when you don't have that, you got the guard
Speaker 1: chipping hitting that that a gap player going up to
Speaker 1: the second level. Now that that linebacker has to fend
Speaker 1: off the guard and also make the tackle. And so
Speaker 1: that's why that defense didn't work for for him. And
Speaker 1: then you have some of the older players in Dallas
Speaker 1: that just older players, and some of the bargain guys
Speaker 1: in free agency. Well, if you're if you have a
Speaker 1: bargain player and free agency, there's a reason why, especially defensively,
Speaker 1: if you if you're getting a third and fourth tier
Speaker 1: guys at minimum or a little bit above minimum, there
Speaker 1: aren't impact players. They just aren't there. The tears are
Speaker 1: now you see why, Like if you got a guy
Speaker 1: this third tier that should be playing special teams and
Speaker 1: contributing on on defense, and he's starting on defense. Hmm.
Speaker 1: There's a big misconception then, because I think most fans
Speaker 1: probably think it's plug and play, like, oh, this guy
Speaker 1: was writing down this why I need graded with Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: It's a different system, different I think that that's such
Speaker 1: a big misconception. It's it's two things, bro. You gotta
Speaker 1: understand what you're doing, also understand why you're doing it.
Speaker 1: You gotta gotta be both. Like you can't like know
Speaker 1: why you're doing it, but don't understand it, or you
Speaker 1: can't understand it and then don't know why you're doing it.
Speaker 1: Both of them work hand to hand. You gotta understand
Speaker 1: what you're doing and why you're doing it. And you're
Speaker 1: moved so much faster. How to eliminate the thinking you
Speaker 1: can just go? So why do you from you? Or
Speaker 1: you're in the media now and and you work with
Speaker 1: one of my old neighbors and good friend, London Fletcher. Yeah, London,
Speaker 1: that's a good dude. And we talking. You know, you
Speaker 1: see football in and I get that as well. I
Speaker 1: get it a lot on on theirs. Oh you're stupid,
Speaker 1: you just bitter, and you don't know what you're talking
Speaker 1: about and he's just mad. I got all of all
Speaker 1: of Bucks fans right now. They think they all Steve,
Speaker 1: you're a moron. You're just bitter, Like, um hey, numb nuts.
Speaker 1: When I get up, I don't think about the Bucks.
Speaker 1: I'm only thinking about it. When you gotta be mad
Speaker 1: about this team I got, you gotta be pissed about it.
Speaker 1: You got got you a hater, you got no, I
Speaker 1: just have to talk about him whenever you have an opinion, yes,
Speaker 1: like or as if you couldn't win the other one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're like oh, and then they're like, why are you
Speaker 1: jumping on? You got to pick one team? Stupid? So
Speaker 1: I'm nicking this team and I just can't say because
Speaker 1: when I first started, I'd be like, they would say, Steve,
Speaker 1: who you got my I'm picking this team. They were
Speaker 1: like wow, because I want to. And then they said
Speaker 1: can you he's explained, like my producers like, Steve, you
Speaker 1: gotta kind of explain why you're picking and that's why
Speaker 1: we're paying you. Oh okay, So then I started, oh,
Speaker 1: you're a hater, you're bitter, and here's the best one. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: here's the best one I have. You don't have any rings?
Speaker 1: What is your opinion? Count Here's what now, Look, here's
Speaker 1: all I know about your opinion about my rings. I
Speaker 1: have none. It's not necessarily my fault. However, the fourteen
Speaker 1: thousand yards that I've accumulated, the one thousand and fourteen
Speaker 1: receptions I've had in the sixteen year career, I know
Speaker 1: for a fact, just a smidgen, that there are people
Speaker 1: on the fifty three man roster at forty two years
Speaker 1: sooner be forty two years old, I can beat that
Speaker 1: mothersucker black a drunk and then some guys there's another word,
Speaker 1: mother's But there's another guy or two on the fifty
Speaker 1: three man roster at forty two. Now I'm retired. But
Speaker 1: what has not changed? Correct? It is my repeat All Star.
Speaker 1: That's the guy that's stealing money. Put the money in
Speaker 1: the bad you know what the skip math All Star?
Speaker 1: Every team, every team got one or two. You know.
Speaker 1: So it's a shame, man, I feel like it's such
Speaker 1: a you know, this's the barbershop culture. We reduce it
Speaker 1: downt but how many rings do you win? Like we
Speaker 1: discontinued the whole question. So here's about to have a jacket, bro,
Speaker 1: But you say it again, spice. Say it again. Steve
Speaker 1: is about to have a jacket first ballot. If you
Speaker 1: ask me, I appreciate that. Thank you. Look if you
Speaker 1: ask me, a guy's backstage. He's making here. I've seen
Speaker 1: the man play. I menna give me Steve Smith story spice. Oh,
Speaker 1: I'd rather not. No, no, no, no, let me get
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get upset all over again. Man, don't be,
Speaker 1: don't be, don't be triggered, Like, go ahead and give
Speaker 1: us already. Listen, man, it's you can't do nothing to
Speaker 1: Steve unless he wants you to, Okay, Like you can't
Speaker 1: touch the dude. Man, And I can't talk to my
Speaker 1: dvs bro because I can't do what they do. But
Speaker 1: there's a lot of times when we're playing Steve and
Speaker 1: you're like, somebody needs to stop Steve Smith at least
Speaker 1: stop him from talking. Stop him stop him period from talking,
Speaker 1: catching the ball, running a route, Just stop him, bro,
Speaker 1: Like it is so frustrating. It's like a trying to
Speaker 1: it's like a like a chicken or something like that.
Speaker 1: He's just going every witch away man and uk It's
Speaker 1: like by the time you catch him, it's already first
Speaker 1: down and the chicken coop. Oh man. I mean it's
Speaker 1: just like every time you play them, bro, you already
Speaker 1: know what to expect. And I'm like, I played defensive
Speaker 1: line and I know about like the impact of Steve Smith.
Speaker 1: So it's like, man, I got to get to the
Speaker 1: quarterback so then we won't have to hear about Steve Smith.
Speaker 1: But I only played first a second down stopper. It's like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: I hope this is passed, but I know I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get double the trip of teams game. So it's like
Speaker 1: I really have no impact on the game. But playing
Speaker 1: with Steve, playing against Steve is a is a headache, bro.
Speaker 1: And it's it's like every time. So that's every story
Speaker 1: when it comes to Steve Smith. Every every story, people
Speaker 1: get a twisted They think, like, you know, the social
Speaker 1: media that here all Steve's a punk, all the ease,
Speaker 1: a thug. All he does is talk. Everybody talks on
Speaker 1: the foot ball field. That's the part that people don't get.
Speaker 1: There's so many conversations. There's like, well there's literally twenty
Speaker 1: eleven different conversations going on. How many times have you talked?
Speaker 1: Or whether it's good or bad or and different against
Speaker 1: old lineman that you you may say something just in
Speaker 1: the heat of battle that like you may not intend
Speaker 1: for it to be harsh, but you will say something
Speaker 1: to somebody, say like old Lineman is holding you, and
Speaker 1: you say something to ref like ref, this guy's hold me,
Speaker 1: can you please stop him? And old Lineman says something
Speaker 1: that just triggers you. M hmm, yeah, yeah, every every
Speaker 1: every game though everything, and sometimes it comes from from
Speaker 1: your linebackers or like somebody on your team. Like I
Speaker 1: remember my rookie year we played and we were playing
Speaker 1: I think the center name was Winter or something like
Speaker 1: the Frank Winters I think it was, and uh, I
Speaker 1: was like I wasn't making no plays, dog, and it
Speaker 1: seemed like the center would get up on a linebacker
Speaker 1: like so fast. And you know, you get to the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter where you're in the huddle and not the
Speaker 1: linebackers are talking about he man, let's play for some pride.
Speaker 1: You hit a pride talk. It's like, man, I don't
Speaker 1: want to hear that jump so that I hate that. Man,
Speaker 1: let's play, let's have some pride. Guys that that automatically
Speaker 1: like the quarters didn't mean nothing. You already lost. So
Speaker 1: my my linebacker looked at me, Jeff Pulbrick, he said, hey, man,
Speaker 1: that's it. It's pretty good. Huh. I'm like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: pretty good. Watch when you see this film and you're
Speaker 1: not gonna like what you what you see? Man? He
Speaker 1: was giving me the is my Rickie year man, nothing
Speaker 1: not gonna do. I just gotta take that l Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I knew exactly what he was talking about, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he is pretty good. The way he was looking at
Speaker 1: me in my eye, it's like he wanted to say
Speaker 1: something else, like looked me dead in my eyes and
Speaker 1: that senter is pretty good. Huh. Oh, what let's see
Speaker 1: the last time we went against each other? Who were
Speaker 1: you with? Who I wear? Baltimore? Then? Right? Who who
Speaker 1: are you? My? My last year with the Bears was
Speaker 1: two thousand and eleven. I was still in Carolina, using Carolina,
Speaker 1: still in Carolina. Who don't think I don't think we
Speaker 1: saw y'all play with the Niners. Y'all plays when he
Speaker 1: was with Baltimore. No, no, no, when he was in Carolina, Carolina.
Speaker 1: But then when he was with the Niners that I
Speaker 1: don't even count that because we already knew he was
Speaker 1: gonna lose so listen, we went seven and nine. Who
Speaker 1: went fourteen? Uh, then we went four and twelve, and
Speaker 1: then we went seven and nine again my four years there,
Speaker 1: two thousand three to two thousand six. So if ever
Speaker 1: a team got up on that, we was just like
Speaker 1: I was looking at the crowd, like, hey, make sure,
Speaker 1: like y'all get ready because I'm leaving right after. I'm
Speaker 1: talking to my wife like, hey, make sure you get
Speaker 1: everybody together because I'm We're gone right after this. This
Speaker 1: is this a second quarter? Wow? Yeah, Like hey you y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all make your way right now. That's that's one of
Speaker 1: the most disturbing things is to come into a game
Speaker 1: and you've seen the weekend and week out and it's
Speaker 1: not it's not that will we lose? When will we
Speaker 1: start to lose? Is it? Check your quarter so you
Speaker 1: know it's coming. Oh man, that's some teams. Were you lying?
Speaker 1: You know? The as is on his way, on his
Speaker 1: way to dude is at the door knock. It's like
Speaker 1: when you get in trouble with your us and to
Speaker 1: get that yeah, it's it's it's so defeating and it
Speaker 1: and it takes and it makes you and the part
Speaker 1: that sucks more than anything, because you know you're having
Speaker 1: a bad year organ or with the organization, the team
Speaker 1: isn't very good. And then you got a fan. You
Speaker 1: got a fan who just isn't You got a fan
Speaker 1: who just isn't um Like, they just kind of come
Speaker 1: at you. Oh, you guys suck and it's like, really,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that really, And then so then you
Speaker 1: fast forward and then when you're winning and you're doing good.
Speaker 1: Now those fans who who's dog cussed you through social
Speaker 1: media and on the radio, now they want your autograph.
Speaker 1: Now they want you to be your friend. Oh this
Speaker 1: is this is the funniest jump in the world. Steam say,
Speaker 1: save me and you on the same team, right, And
Speaker 1: they're a fan who like hasn't beginning any autographs. So
Speaker 1: they see me, they're like, hey man, let me get
Speaker 1: your autograph. They're like, yes, it's my first one to day.
Speaker 1: And then you walk by and they're like they're like
Speaker 1: taking the magazine that I'm signing, like away from me,
Speaker 1: like as I'm signing it, because now they see you.
Speaker 1: That is the funniest jump in the world when you're
Speaker 1: signing an autograph, but they see somebody who's like more famous,
Speaker 1: and they start taking with your autographing away from you
Speaker 1: to get the autograph for the person that's hold on,
Speaker 1: hold on, And then when I say no, they go
Speaker 1: back to him. They go back to him. So do
Speaker 1: you finish? Do you finish? China? You passed me over.
Speaker 1: You gotta spot you got. I'm not about to play
Speaker 1: Adams right, passed me over like Auntie's potato salad. So okay.
Speaker 1: So the last time when you were with the Bears,
Speaker 1: what year was it? I think we played Carolina and
Speaker 1: like Pep was like going back to Carolina and it
Speaker 1: was like it was like a big deal. Yeah. No, No,
Speaker 1: we went to I think we went to you guys. Yes,
Speaker 1: we went to you guys because y'all had um merryweather
Speaker 1: and safety, you remember, and y'all was y'all were dinging me.
Speaker 1: He never went for the ball, he never I ever.
Speaker 1: He hit me so hard he bat my face mask.
Speaker 1: Dagn Molly, watch you watch watch yours. I was about
Speaker 1: your flowers, our flowers. You went eight for. Here's here's
Speaker 1: what I do remember. Uh, the kid from South Carolina,
Speaker 1: he went to Clempson, I believe, or South Carolina, um
Speaker 1: game cocks he was covering me, and I remember, uh,
Speaker 1: I remember going against We lost the game, but I
Speaker 1: think I have like eight And that's when y'all had
Speaker 1: I don't want to sound racil, but y'all had a
Speaker 1: a non brother playing safety uh Berman Chris uh Cody No.
Speaker 1: He ended up playing for Tampa Bay Chris consin. Yes,
Speaker 1: Chris Conto and I and and Merryweather hit me, Ryan
Speaker 1: Marywather hit me, and then Christ tried to hit me,
Speaker 1: and I said, hey, like come on on, and we
Speaker 1: we kind of locked up. Boom. He goes, hey, we
Speaker 1: we come from the same cloth. Light switch one off.
Speaker 1: That's all you needed. I said, excuse me. And I
Speaker 1: took that personally, very personally took a person. I took
Speaker 1: we come from the same cloth, my me and you.
Speaker 1: Then almost two h this is this seven because then
Speaker 1: like this was like three. This was like three catches
Speaker 1: in everybody. He hidn't bang bang. He said we come
Speaker 1: from because he hit and I said, yo, you're trying
Speaker 1: to do He said, hey, bro we cloth, we come
Speaker 1: from the same cloth. I said, Now, I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to be racist. It had nothing to do with his color,
Speaker 1: his that he had to do this I was like,
Speaker 1: first of all, when God made me, he did not
Speaker 1: make you out of the same material. No, what kind
Speaker 1: of material was he? Like polyester? He wasn't agent ating
Speaker 1: our material. That's all I do know. He would the respect.
Speaker 1: I respect every opponent I go to. Now, wait, every
Speaker 1: time you lie. I respect every guy go go against. However,
Speaker 1: the conversation dictates how much respect do I lower the
Speaker 1: respect because I do respect him. But there are some
Speaker 1: things I've had some guys say some stuff. I'm like, bro,
Speaker 1: if we were just out and about in the real world,
Speaker 1: like we will fight mhm, like literally fistfight. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: he got he got the and so like, there were
Speaker 1: guys I would go against and they were like, you
Speaker 1: know they after the game, Ah, Stevens, he's a punkies
Speaker 1: this bro. You said some stuff that was nonsense, and
Speaker 1: then I just kept going. But a lot of times
Speaker 1: you initiated a lot of times I disagree. I disagree.
Speaker 1: I raised you. I raised your reverse card because here's
Speaker 1: what I mean. There be times I'll catch a pass
Speaker 1: and I'll spend it. I'm going they think it can
Speaker 1: cover you. Today, I'm really not talking to the dB.
Speaker 1: I'm talking out loud. You just happened to hear me.
Speaker 1: But here you don't think he took it that way.
Speaker 1: I don't care. I wasn't trying. I wasn't really going,
Speaker 1: Oh this guy numbered number thirty seven from this school.
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm like, today, we're balling today, let's go right.
Speaker 1: I would have that dollargue because when I was, when
Speaker 1: I trained the workout, I still have that open dialogue.
Speaker 1: It's crazy when I run on a treadman. My kids,
Speaker 1: my wife and kids make fun of me to this day.
Speaker 1: At some point, are you one of those types? Uh?
Speaker 1: What is that? I can't stand it? Which? What? Yes
Speaker 1: me that let's go? Yes? Yes I am. I am
Speaker 1: a self motivator because you know what I'm just saying
Speaker 1: inside of your head. No, I can't because keep it
Speaker 1: to yourself. What I'm saying. Here's here's why you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying inside. I want to get off this treadmill.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you can never get a membership
Speaker 1: with playing Fish and they don't kick your anser up.
Speaker 1: But that's why I don't go to public places. I
Speaker 1: am saying to myself, why do we sign up for
Speaker 1: a forty five minute run. Let's do it. I'm doing
Speaker 1: a forty five minute endurance run, and I'm asking myself,
Speaker 1: why do I need to do endurance? Like I'm having
Speaker 1: a whole dialogue with myself. So I'm like, no, we
Speaker 1: are not going to stop. So we're metricularly. You're saying,
Speaker 1: you're saying we, yes, we My right leg and my
Speaker 1: left legs, both of them legs want to stop. My legs,
Speaker 1: my legs are, my calf, my achilles, my knees, and
Speaker 1: my handstrings are quiet, and my glues stop running. My
Speaker 1: left one says, uh, this one's tight. My right was
Speaker 1: going he's tight. He really is. So it's for me.
Speaker 1: It's how many surgeries you had? I didn't. Um you're
Speaker 1: like medical lists. My joint is eight pounds, eight pounds
Speaker 1: of paper. I know your job got to be like
Speaker 1: I had. So I did my uh line of duty.
Speaker 1: I didn't get mine. By the way of the NFL.
Speaker 1: Look at this man's a torn tricept right here. Like
Speaker 1: all the time I didn't get my back. You know,
Speaker 1: it's like somebody else's dog. My back slip out of
Speaker 1: place every month. Who who's back doesn't year old seventy
Speaker 1: year old something it ain't mine, my my un my medical.
Speaker 1: I got my medical to do. It was like, I
Speaker 1: don't know how you still because I had all my injuries.
Speaker 1: I only had a few surgeries, but I had all
Speaker 1: my injuries. All my knee and sprains were all like
Speaker 1: second and third degrees. So I never really tore in
Speaker 1: places where I need to repairs. I always had a
Speaker 1: lot of rehab, so a ton of carless stuff. So
Speaker 1: and and it didn't help um that when I drove
Speaker 1: up to I drove up to Raleigh in the car
Speaker 1: um and I wore ankle socks. And it's a three
Speaker 1: a half three and a half hour job drive. So
Speaker 1: when I sat on the chair, yeah, I had swollen ankles,
Speaker 1: had some cankles. I can relate to that. Yeah, exactly, cankles.
Speaker 1: Guess what I got that line to do that if
Speaker 1: you catch when i'm do you catch you slide? But
Speaker 1: I mean you also played sixteen years. I mean, so
Speaker 1: come on now, like they just that's automatic, bro, there's
Speaker 1: something wrong with you to make sure to make it
Speaker 1: sixteen years worth For car accidents. Yes, that's that's basically
Speaker 1: what it is like you getting into many car accidents
Speaker 1: and especially if you're on the line, you're seeing action
Speaker 1: every place. It might be times when you run a
Speaker 1: rounte where you gonna make a contact with anybody, but
Speaker 1: if you're playing on the line, that is attack every play,
Speaker 1: including the penalties, which people don't county. You bring seventy plays,
Speaker 1: but we're not counting the fifteen penalties. Can only take
Speaker 1: one for you to hurt something. Good do, good do.
Speaker 1: Let's getting down to do it. Hey, Gerard, why did
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Speaker 1: Mike Golic former NFL player. He was also known for
Speaker 1: being a host from Mike and Mike. A former NFL
Speaker 1: analyst and all around great guy. Mike Golic on the
Speaker 1: Cut to a Podcast With being on Mike and Mike,
Speaker 1: you have the opportunity because of ESPN, they call it
Speaker 1: the car wash you guys got. You guys have had
Speaker 1: the opportunity of having so many different personality, so many
Speaker 1: different point of views, and then also so many different
Speaker 1: stars that come through tell me, you know, obviously me
Speaker 1: being one of those people that had the opportunity to
Speaker 1: go through the car wash, you know, we've got to
Speaker 1: know each other and and to some degree, and I
Speaker 1: and I don't mean this as derogatory towards you or
Speaker 1: you meant it towards me. But when I had the
Speaker 1: opportunity to go through the car washer, because of the
Speaker 1: way I played, and because of at times the way
Speaker 1: I gave off what kind of individual I was a
Speaker 1: lot of times I heard, either from Mike or a
Speaker 1: lot of different people, oh you are kind of different
Speaker 1: from what we expect or what we've seen from you
Speaker 1: as a player. Talk about why and what you have
Speaker 1: experiences seeing those guys come through the car washer, what
Speaker 1: you've learned about the persona or the or or the
Speaker 1: mirage of different players have come through the car wash
Speaker 1: of ESPN through Mike and Mike in the morning, the
Speaker 1: the some of the interesting things is the best thing
Speaker 1: you can do, and it sounds and you did it
Speaker 1: was just be who you are. Just be yourself, because
Speaker 1: whenever you get on air, if all of a sudden
Speaker 1: you have to change into a different persona and you
Speaker 1: can't sustain that. If if if the mike went on
Speaker 1: every morning at six am and for four hours, five
Speaker 1: days a week, twenty hours a week, I had to
Speaker 1: go into an act and that would have sucked. And
Speaker 1: you can figure out really so, but the best thing
Speaker 1: is just to be yourself. You need to get excepted
Speaker 1: for it or not. And that was the one thing,
Speaker 1: the piece of advice I would have for athletes that
Speaker 1: would come through. I would say, don't try too hard.
Speaker 1: You know the game. You're You're not gonna get put out.
Speaker 1: You're not going to get thrown to the walls. If
Speaker 1: you're if you're here from the NBA on a car wash,
Speaker 1: you're gonna talk NBA. If you're here for NFL, you're
Speaker 1: gonna talk NFL. No one's gonna try and side swipe you,
Speaker 1: make you look bad. We're here, we want you to
Speaker 1: come back, so we're gonna We're gonna put you in
Speaker 1: a position to win. So just be natural, be who
Speaker 1: you are, Be conversational because the producers and such will
Speaker 1: try and every time, every now and then will say, okay,
Speaker 1: when you talk, this camera will be on you. You
Speaker 1: look at that camera, and I'd be like, don't worry
Speaker 1: about that ship. Just talk to the person that's talking
Speaker 1: to you. Just have the conversation with them, and be
Speaker 1: yourself because you're gonna talk to a lot of different
Speaker 1: people who talk to you in different ways. Just be yourself.
Speaker 1: Just be conversational. Don't try and put on an act
Speaker 1: for anybody. Don't try and to get too in depth,
Speaker 1: because you know, while a lot of people want to
Speaker 1: think they know all the ins and outs of the games,
Speaker 1: they don't. You don't have to dive into unbelievable breakdowns
Speaker 1: of offense or defense. Just do it enough so people
Speaker 1: understand what you're saying. And have fun. Man, if you
Speaker 1: want to crack the joke, crack joke. If you want
Speaker 1: to laugh a little bit, laugh a little bit. But
Speaker 1: that was really the biggest thing I would say, because
Speaker 1: a lot of times we had them first because our
Speaker 1: show was in the morning before they would move on
Speaker 1: to the next radio show or the next you know,
Speaker 1: noon sports center, and then on to the NFL Live
Speaker 1: and then on to six o'clock Sports Center. So we
Speaker 1: get him first, And that's what I would always say.
Speaker 1: Just do your thing, Just be yourself, just be your personality.
Speaker 1: But I've also had guys and they're great players. A
Speaker 1: great player who shall her name remain nameless, and unfortunately
Speaker 1: has passed away. He came in and I was talking
Speaker 1: to him before his audition for for one of the shows,
Speaker 1: and he said, man, just tell me how to get
Speaker 1: through this. I don't really want to work too hard.
Speaker 1: I just want to kind of get through it and
Speaker 1: skate and just you know, have this as an easy
Speaker 1: second way to make some money. And I'm like, dude,
Speaker 1: that ain't gonna happen. I said, if you're gonna come here,
Speaker 1: be specific to a show, you gotta put your time in.
Speaker 1: You know. When I first started working NFL Live, know,
Speaker 1: I called coaches and I called talk to players, you know,
Speaker 1: and I made sure because the one thing Stephen, I know,
Speaker 1: as you find out when you get out of the
Speaker 1: game and you start criticizing guys you just played with,
Speaker 1: and you know, you damn well better be right. Because
Speaker 1: I would do that, and then I'd be out on
Speaker 1: the road for Sunday Countdown and a player would come
Speaker 1: up and be all pissed at me, and I'd say,
Speaker 1: what did you hear? And of course you'd say, you know,
Speaker 1: my brother's friends cousin Dad heard you say this, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, come on, did you hear me say it?
Speaker 1: What did they hear you say? You know? And they
Speaker 1: would say and I said, no, I didn't say that.
Speaker 1: This is what I said, you know, because you get
Speaker 1: some sensitive guys out there, so you had to know
Speaker 1: what you were saying. If you were going to criticize him,
Speaker 1: you had to you had to know that or just say, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure the coverage here or I'm not sure
Speaker 1: what the blocking scheme was, but it looks like this
Speaker 1: or it looks like that. But that was the biggest
Speaker 1: thing I think I would would tell the people is man,
Speaker 1: just just do your thing. And the best one of
Speaker 1: all that that I have ever been around. I knew
Speaker 1: him when he was at the Sixer and I was
Speaker 1: with the Eagles. I mean, he's been on my show
Speaker 1: a ton as Charles Park. I mean, you know, Chuck
Speaker 1: being Chuck is about as as as good as you
Speaker 1: can get. And some people like him, some people don't.
Speaker 1: But he's just himself. And I know Steve, that's something
Speaker 1: that I know to started you right away as you
Speaker 1: just you're just were yourself, you know, and that's what
Speaker 1: is going to carry somebody so you don't have to
Speaker 1: put on an act as you move up in the business.
Speaker 1: Was it difficult at first for you, though, to to
Speaker 1: just be yourself as you were going through Mike and Mike,
Speaker 1: and as you talked about in the car watching early on,
Speaker 1: as you were transitioning from playing to be analyous like
Speaker 1: you are now. I don't know. At the time I was.
Speaker 1: I was always I'm still nervous. I was always nervous,
Speaker 1: but I had the blessing of talking beforehand. And what
Speaker 1: I did. What was what was the blessing before is
Speaker 1: I got some great um, some great advice about people,
Speaker 1: and they told me, don't just do a segment, stay
Speaker 1: for the show. And when I did, when I participated
Speaker 1: in the whole show. In the whole show, I mean,
Speaker 1: at least you know, I didn't do the whole four
Speaker 1: hours of Mike and Mike, but I did the last
Speaker 1: two or an hour, an hour or long enough that
Speaker 1: they got a sense of who I was to where
Speaker 1: When I started doing the show with them and I
Speaker 1: signed a contract with ESPN, I was scheduled to do
Speaker 1: six to eight shows. So we got a report where
Speaker 1: there was a show on there what we just talked
Speaker 1: about being an athlete and finances to to the where
Speaker 1: we had the opportunity to talk in depth of they
Speaker 1: gave an opportunity by by accident, to show that I
Speaker 1: was just more than a guy with a personality or
Speaker 1: a guy with a you know, a chip on the shoulder,
Speaker 1: a guy with and an opinion, but more of a
Speaker 1: sound opinion or a little bit of a little bit
Speaker 1: of education to where there are times because we are
Speaker 1: an athlete eats you kind of just shortcut and sometimes
Speaker 1: the shortcuting, the shortcut version for a former player is
Speaker 1: the dude can't play, He's not very good. They're gonna
Speaker 1: get blown out. Because as as athletes as former players,
Speaker 1: we hear the fans who live they see their team
Speaker 1: through rose colored glasses. They really do, Oh, our team's
Speaker 1: going to Super Bowl. Or a great example is I've
Speaker 1: gotten a lot of flaking and I've gotten in my
Speaker 1: head on head, Like when you think about the Cleveland
Speaker 1: Browns and you think about well, when I think about
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, I see the US against the world, there's
Speaker 1: a part of me where I go Bro. You play
Speaker 1: for a team that has not made it to a playoff,
Speaker 1: game in twenty five years. It's not you against the world.
Speaker 1: Your team sucks. You haven't been to the playoffs for
Speaker 1: twenty five years. It isn't biased. It's just a calcul lation.
Speaker 1: Twenty five years. You haven't been in There's so many
Speaker 1: other teams that have been there so many other times.
Speaker 1: And you guys have had twenty one different quarterbacks. You've
Speaker 1: had seventeen eighteen different head coaches. The football in me
Speaker 1: an analysts in me is going, well, I'm you know,
Speaker 1: I gotta take off my shoes to get a calculator
Speaker 1: to calculate how many different moving parts have been before
Speaker 1: this epic season. So no, we're not buying it. We're
Speaker 1: not drinking the Cleveland Brown kool, even though Cleveland is.
Speaker 1: And so there are times where people get in their feelings.
Speaker 1: But it's also the lazy former player in me is
Speaker 1: do you can't play? And so I have to challenge myself,
Speaker 1: and I'm challenging myself this year's how do I find
Speaker 1: the ability to say why I don't agree with this
Speaker 1: player and why don't think he's successful or I think
Speaker 1: he can be successful. Great example is I'll have to
Speaker 1: talk about Juju Smith Schust and I've been very critical
Speaker 1: of him because I know how much time, how much
Speaker 1: social media presence he has. He has a huge social
Speaker 1: media presidence, but your social media presence can't be better
Speaker 1: than your actual statistics. But he also because of his
Speaker 1: social media presence, he and he's on a legendary, historical team.
Speaker 1: And then the absence of a b has really put
Speaker 1: him in a situation where he's been thrust it into
Speaker 1: a role that his game cannot sustain. But if he
Speaker 1: goes to a different team and has a bona fide
Speaker 1: number one wide receiver, Juju Smith Schuster will be a
Speaker 1: great player as a number two because he gets to
Speaker 1: play in the slot. He gets to utilize and go
Speaker 1: against a Will or Sam linebacker who can't cover him
Speaker 1: his lower body stick. He knows how to get in
Speaker 1: and out of his breaks. But the lazy football player
Speaker 1: of me, he's not a legitimate number one. He's not.
Speaker 1: But he's a hell of a number two. But you
Speaker 1: gotta have an alpha male out there that allows him
Speaker 1: to be to eat up the double teams and let
Speaker 1: him do his job at one on one and the
Speaker 1: mismatches that he can bring to the table. That's what
Speaker 1: I miss and I have lacked and I'm gonna improve
Speaker 1: on so it doesn't come across where I'm just this
Speaker 1: angry sixteen year vet who's jealous. B I'm not jealous
Speaker 1: that you get to get knocked, you get to get
Speaker 1: wallowed like I used to get wolloped, But anymore I'm not.
Speaker 1: I just know it takes a lot more than social
Speaker 1: media presence to be a great player. And he has
Speaker 1: all the twols in his tool box and shed to
Speaker 1: be that player if he's put in the right position
Speaker 1: and has that number one wide receiver to play. So
Speaker 1: that see, that's what you did right there is what
Speaker 1: I tell I certainly told my son and have told
Speaker 1: others as well. When you or a former athlete and
Speaker 1: you're trying to explain something, don't tell me why, tell
Speaker 1: me why and you just did why you would be
Speaker 1: a better slot? Why why? Because of them? You could
Speaker 1: don't just say Like It's like when I when I
Speaker 1: am in the booth analyzing the game, I tell my
Speaker 1: son the same thing. Don't don't tell the audience what happened,
Speaker 1: Tell them why it happened? Why? Why did that play work?
Speaker 1: What happened during it? Because people at home watch the ball. Okay,
Speaker 1: Well we as like when I watch a game. When
Speaker 1: I do a game, I start from the outside, d
Speaker 1: I see where the damn ball is. I start from
Speaker 1: the outside and I try and get the coverage, see
Speaker 1: what the formation is. And after the ball snap, I
Speaker 1: worked my way in because I know what I'm seeing
Speaker 1: on defensive offensively, that's gonna take me to the ball.
Speaker 1: But I can see the big picture. So when the
Speaker 1: play happens, it's like, Okay, we saw this happen. What
Speaker 1: just happened? Well, y'all saw what happened. Now I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you why it happened. I'm gonna tell You're gonna
Speaker 1: see something that you weren't looking at because you were
Speaker 1: watching the ball, and this is why it happened. So
Speaker 1: what you just it? There is the way to do it.
Speaker 1: It's why did that happen? Not just yeah, you're lazy
Speaker 1: or he can't do this or why can't he? Or
Speaker 1: why can he? And then the difference you get hamstrong
Speaker 1: a little bit by TV shows I did on NFL Live.
Speaker 1: When you're on set, isn't it so great to have
Speaker 1: this expanded way, whether it's a podcast, right, a four
Speaker 1: hour show when all of a sudden, the cameras on you,
Speaker 1: and you got thirty seconds, thirty five seconds to make
Speaker 1: five points, and you know you can only make three
Speaker 1: of them. Or you have a four minute segment with
Speaker 1: five people on set. Yes, and oh he gets better?
Speaker 1: Is better? So you got a four minute segment. Okay,
Speaker 1: five people talking. Each person is supposed to have forty
Speaker 1: five seconds, and that forty five seconds is also your host,
Speaker 1: so that tu up. Now, don't get an old toast.
Speaker 1: Now I don't have this problem. Colleen is awesome, but
Speaker 1: don't get a host who wants to show that they
Speaker 1: can get analysts. So they take their seconds. Oh they're
Speaker 1: going to fifty five, and then your next behind them
Speaker 1: or second? No, no, no, no, stay with me, Stay
Speaker 1: with me. Host. See he's going over. I don't have
Speaker 1: allocated time here, So you gotta four minutes. Five people.
Speaker 1: The host has forty five seconds, he goes fifty five.
Speaker 1: Then the second person has his forty five and he
Speaker 1: or she gone, man, but jam ain't taking my time.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make my points. Then they go forty five.
Speaker 1: So what is that? Somebody went five? Somebody went ten
Speaker 1: seconds over and say I'm the last person. So then
Speaker 1: the next person goes, oh, I'm gonna go fifty two
Speaker 1: by the time you get if you're the last man,
Speaker 1: if you get your turn, you got thirty second and
Speaker 1: they and a producer before you get, a producer goes,
Speaker 1: make it quick, Make it quick. This was supposed to
Speaker 1: be my best fight. You are a thousand percent right there.
Speaker 1: Get your ear and they say you got twenty and
Speaker 1: then you get then you get the wrap, Wrap it rap.
Speaker 1: I got a producer told me rap one time I
Speaker 1: looked at him in a camera. Or if it's not
Speaker 1: a point that I want to make. And you have
Speaker 1: a what they call a hard rap, which is they
Speaker 1: got a big time commercial coming and they pay some
Speaker 1: good money, right, And what do I mean by good money? McDonald's.
Speaker 1: McDonald gave a whole bunch of money or week on
Speaker 1: a commercial whether you're talking or not. And so you
Speaker 1: don't and then or you don't want to interrupt your
Speaker 1: host or counter analysts and be perceived as rude, right,
Speaker 1: or you have a host, or you have an analyst,
Speaker 1: which has happened to me before. You have an analyst
Speaker 1: who steals your line because you have a production meeting, yep,
Speaker 1: so there's a lot of things go on that people
Speaker 1: don't realize. Talking trying to make a minute point in
Speaker 1: thirty five seconds. It's tough. Ye. It is my first
Speaker 1: time ever being on air on Thursday night. I was
Speaker 1: supposed to go first red button hit Steve you go.
Speaker 1: I didn't go. I just looked. Then I came back
Speaker 1: and luckily Marshall took it scared scared when you have
Speaker 1: When I was interviewing, it was some of my best
Speaker 1: TV because I don't have anything loose of me. I
Speaker 1: don't have anything now all of a sudden, I got
Speaker 1: a four year deal. Man, I'm trying. You're trying to
Speaker 1: impact the first year to make it to the fourth year. Now,
Speaker 1: I mean my fourth year and going I'm like, they
Speaker 1: say they like me, are they gonna you know? Am
Speaker 1: I getting a salary reductions? The pandemic you know kind
Speaker 1: of more? Man, this is nice? You know, so all
Speaker 1: of that stuff. TV is not for the fainting art.
Speaker 1: It's not easy. It's it's extremely difficult in time consuming,
Speaker 1: and you have an hour show. It's only really forty
Speaker 1: four men. You've got commercials, you got scenics, you got music.
Speaker 1: Don't have an interview that's taken away from the content.
Speaker 1: Oh man, that's a minute and fifteen seconds on the
Speaker 1: on the show. That's that's showing that. So it's it's
Speaker 1: it's pretty interesting. TV is a it is a living,
Speaker 1: breathing organism in which when the when the camera stops
Speaker 1: rolling or when you're in commercial, it's still going. There's
Speaker 1: dogs and and and conversations and good things, bad things.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of stuff going on. And then you
Speaker 1: just gotta you gotta do it every week. You gotta
Speaker 1: find something unique. What is my unique perspective about this
Speaker 1: boring ass event? Sometimes especially super Bowl, super Bowl, super
Speaker 1: Bowl because of the pandemic this year, sixty one hours.
Speaker 1: You know what it really you know what it normally
Speaker 1: is in the non pandemic, A hundred and twenty five
Speaker 1: hours of coverage that in you're talking you only can
Speaker 1: talk about Tom Brady and the football and the and
Speaker 1: the running backs, and and if you're not on every
Speaker 1: show at the exact same time, other people are gonna
Speaker 1: have points about the same football game that you have,
Speaker 1: So it gets pretty unique. You are a unique person.
Speaker 1: You are well worth it, You are competent, and most
Speaker 1: of all, your Lovable. I'm Steve Smith, singer John and
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