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The you're a one fourteen twenty 15 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: nine seeing some weakening of the dollar. UH that is 16 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: up a two tents of a percent right now, the 17 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: end one oh six seventy five, that's strengthening up about 18 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: the half a percent the more this morning, the ten 19 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: year yield one seventy sixty. We've seen some rises in 20 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: the tenure Treasury. But it looks like that is a 21 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: leveled off of somewhat this morning, and we checked the 22 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: markets for you every fifteen minutes during the trading day 23 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: right here on Bloomberg, Mike and Top, John Tucker, thank 24 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: you so much. John Riding at r d Q Economics 25 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: has just sent out one of those blistering research notes 26 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: I've seen from him in years. He says the gloom 27 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: and unemployment is flat out wrong, and he seems to 28 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: be right because the yield market agrees with Mr. Writing 29 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: one point seven zero is a higher yield off a 30 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: one sixty number with a lousy revision. R d Q Economics, 31 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: we expect a job creation this year to average a 32 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five thousand per month, in the unemployment 33 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: rate to fall below four and a half percent. We 34 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: still hold to those forecasts. He looks at wage growth 35 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: is labor income proxy hours times wage right up four 36 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: point seven youre over here. That's a big number. That's 37 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: an important note from writing into Quadros at rd Q Economics. 38 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: Right now, we need to talk to somebody about three 39 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: standard deviation moves. That can only mean Robert Sinch of 40 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: Amer's pierpoint Bob we saw last week euro it was 41 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 1: this week euro move almost three standard deviations. We've seen 42 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: Yen Movi. These are brutal, treche like moves. What did 43 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: those brutal moves signal about the global system, particularly after 44 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: week non farm payroll growth? Good morning guys. Well, you 45 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: know when I when I think it really signals, is 46 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: that there's some some forces other than the normal cyclical 47 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: movements driving these barn exchange markets, whether it's a reallocation 48 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: of reserves, whether it's this new initiative by the Treasury 49 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 1: to designate certain certain currencies as under a monitoring system. Now, 50 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 1: so they're not manipulators, but they're being mode whatever it is. Um. 51 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: I think what's interesting is that that a lot of 52 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: these moves have not been driven by the normal cyclical 53 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 1: forces in the Muhamma Hilarian wrote an article about this also, 54 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: so so clearly there's some things going on in the 55 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: global financial system that are different than normal. And what 56 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: it may be actually is the fact that that without 57 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: a lot of global cross border capital flow, we're beginning 58 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: to see the old reliable current account balance is becoming 59 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: an important factor in driving currency. Mike I just put 60 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: out a lumined radio plus the tenure yield. It is 61 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: truly a remarkable chart, Mike, I don't think I've ever 62 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: seen that off a job's report. I mean, that's a 63 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: huge six uh down down five. That's an eleven basis 64 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: points swing in the tenure in less than an hour. 65 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: What's interesting, Well, I mean five, funds futures are up 66 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: to a four percent chance, but it's still down from 67 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: ten percent. So bob uh, there's not only a disconnect 68 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: between the Fed and the markets, is a disconnect between 69 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: the treasury market and the Fed funds futures market. At 70 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: this point about where the Central Bank might go? Yeah, 71 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: you know, I think these wage numbers we've been we've 72 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: been talking for for a couple of years now that 73 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: employment has been stronger, but wage numbers have not been increasing. 74 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: We got a little bit of the opposite here. Employment 75 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 1: growth is slowed a little bit, uh, and yet wages 76 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: are picking up. Now, what can explain that? What can 77 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: explain that is we're running out of workers. And this 78 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: is something my colleagues the Stanley has been focusing on, 79 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: is that it's suffered to get employment growth when you're 80 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: running out of qualified labor, and so a slow, slight 81 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: slow down in in in employment growth with higher wages 82 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: is consistent with a very tight labor market. I think 83 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: that's maybe what the long end of the yield curve 84 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: is focusing on, whereas the short end of the curve 85 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: is thinking that this kind of data is going to 86 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: keep the Fed from making a move in June. So actually, 87 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: I think it's it's it's fairly consistent that an end 88 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: armament in which the FED may not move but wage 89 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: pressures are picking up would give us a steeper yield curve. 90 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: And that's that's what we're seeing here today. Well, interesting, 91 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: anytime we were talking with Bill Gross about tips heields, 92 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: there were nine basis points before the move. Now tenure 93 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: tips are at So I guess, Bob, the market is 94 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: sniffing inflation out there. It's it's certainly it's certainly not 95 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: not the inhaling disinflation or deflation the way it had 96 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: been for the last couple of years. And I think 97 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: with the with energy prices up, a lot of headline 98 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: prices will start to catch up the core inflation. I 99 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: actually think the most important set of reports going into 100 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: the June f O MC is going to be the 101 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: core inflation reports. We've seen core inflation picking up, its 102 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: slowed a bit in the March round of data. I 103 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: think the May reports on core inflation, and we heard 104 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: a little bit of this at a President Catholic from 105 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: the Dallas Fed just I think that's going to be 106 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: important for the FED decision process coming in June. Well, 107 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 1: the core I don't have in front of me, folks, 108 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna put core at two point two percent 109 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: year over year CPI CORE and May sevente. May seventeenth 110 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: is when I was looking at Michael was cheating. Uh, 111 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: that's when we see it. Help us with that. I 112 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: thought two percent was our bound. Bob says core c 113 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: p I is above where we want it to be. 114 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: Is that possible? Uh, it is possible. If you look 115 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: at the core pc just later, it's around one six 116 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: And if you look at other measures of core inflation 117 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: from the Cleveland and Dallas Feds are in the one 118 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: eight two percent range. So we're kind of clustered between, 119 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: you know, one point six and two point two percent, 120 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: which is getting close to that two level. And I 121 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: think if we see a little bit of a rebound 122 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: in the year over year numbers. Um. I think that's 123 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 1: going to be important for the FED. They've seen wage 124 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 1: growth pick up a little bit, They've seen the core 125 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: inflation numbers pick up a little bit. And again I 126 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: think some of the slow down of employment is that 127 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: literally they just are having difficulties finding qualified workers to 128 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: fill jobs. Bob, since, thank you. It's a very interesting 129 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: market reaction to the Fed. As usual, people who have 130 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: money at risk are drilling down and finding what they 131 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: think the most important number is, as Bob says, it's 132 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: the wage number. In this report. What we try to 133 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: do is keep a conversation going. But Mike and I 134 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: are always glued to equities, bonds, currencies, commodities with a 135 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: respect for what markets say and what they do, and 136 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: the doing is simple. We have seen i'm quickly a 137 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: ten eleven basis point massive swing in the tenure yield 138 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: off the Job's report. Most interesting stay with us Bloomberg Surveillance. 139 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: We are kind of down to the opening bell, brought 140 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: to you by the jeep Grand Cherokee, the most awarded 141 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: suv ever. 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