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Speaker 2: OKC dropped forty five in the first quarter, forty two
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Speaker 2: get into this exciting game. The thunder pommel, the whoa, uh,
Speaker 2: it's been a while, you know what I remember, Joe.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember this old shoe h
Speaker 2: in game four, Uh in twenty seventeen. I think that
Speaker 2: was the first year KD was in Golden State. In
Speaker 2: Game four, Cleveland dropped eighty six in the first half
Speaker 2: against against Golden State, and it kind of reminded me
Speaker 2: of this situation Like this most points in the first
Speaker 2: half of a playoff game in NBA history. I thought
Speaker 2: they had an outside a chance to break the Celtics record,
Speaker 2: because if I'm not mistaken, I think in a game too,
Speaker 2: the Celtics scored one to fifty seven against the Knicks. Now,
Speaker 2: they weren't the same Celtics that you know they were
Speaker 2: winning championships in the eighty but they were still a
Speaker 2: good team. They had started the age, but they dropped it.
Speaker 2: Did a number on the Knicks Shae Gilgers. Alexander was sensational,
Speaker 2: and they showed you why he's going to win the MVP.
Speaker 2: Thirty three points in thirty minutes, eight assists, eleven of thirteen.
Speaker 2: He was perfect from the field pre throw line eleven
Speaker 2: of eleven. I don't know if I've ever seen a
Speaker 2: stat like this. Joe plus fifty one and plus minus
Speaker 2: plus fifty one plus minus, Chat Honer plus thirty four,
Speaker 2: Jaylen Williams plus twenty three, Isaiah Hartenstein plus nineteen, Shae
Speaker 2: plus fifty one, Lou Dort plus thirty four.
Speaker 3: They had eight guys in double figures.
Speaker 2: Everybody, if you touched the floor for the OKC Thunder,
Speaker 2: you scored in this basketball game. Have a matter of fact, Hell,
Speaker 2: I wish I were in attendance by Hey, I wore
Speaker 2: by some George they about today?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, Sga is the first.
Speaker 2: Check this out, Joe, the highest plus minus in playoff
Speaker 2: history since the play by play era. Sga is the
Speaker 2: first player this century century to belee plus fifty in
Speaker 2: a playoff game, and he did it in three quarters. Joe,
Speaker 2: I mean, we got to talk about it, but it
Speaker 2: damn sure. He must to talk about I mean from
Speaker 2: the look, this is how you make amend.
Speaker 3: You don't deal it down there around You let one
Speaker 3: slip away.
Speaker 2: The other night you had the game and control and
Speaker 2: you bulldived around and you let them get You miss.
Speaker 3: Two free throws.
Speaker 2: At the end, bron rebounds, the ball, passes out the Russ.
Speaker 2: Russ gets to the head of Aaron Gordon. He knocks
Speaker 2: down to three and you lose a game. They didn't
Speaker 2: do well on it. All they did was come out
Speaker 2: here and drop one forty nine and say, you know what,
Speaker 2: that was an operation. You're gonna have need to be
Speaker 2: on your best behavior if you want to get rid
Speaker 2: of us. When you watch this team play tonight, what
Speaker 2: impressed you most about the thunder Man just how poised
Speaker 2: and resilient they were to start the game.
Speaker 3: They came out with that desperation that you.
Speaker 2: Need, you know what I mean, Like, we know we
Speaker 2: wonder won in game one, but we can't let we
Speaker 2: can't let this from game two get by. So I
Speaker 2: thought they came out man with so much energy and
Speaker 2: they just fed off it. Now Shade Levin for thirteen,
Speaker 2: I thought he kind of got off to a great start.
Speaker 2: He got off to a great start, putting pressure on
Speaker 2: the defense, getting into the teeth of the defense, not
Speaker 2: only getting his own but making plays for others. And
Speaker 2: the one thing I love about OKC, man, not only
Speaker 2: did they control pretty much the whole game, but man,
Speaker 2: they so un selfish and play for one another.
Speaker 3: They look like so much fun, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Oh man, they were moving that ball, but they know
Speaker 2: when it's time to get it to their money.
Speaker 3: They get it to their money, which is shade.
Speaker 2: And I love how you get to the spots sunk
Speaker 2: and oltr he get to it and he raised up
Speaker 2: and shoot.
Speaker 3: Ain't nothing you can do about it, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 2: So tonight, collectively from a team standpoint, they always hit
Speaker 2: on all cylinders. Everybody was shooting pretty much, you know,
Speaker 2: in the high fifties or you know, from the field.
Speaker 2: I thought they'd done a great job tonight, you know,
Speaker 2: just really bouncing back knowing that they had to win
Speaker 2: this game too.
Speaker 3: About the girl to go on the road to Denver like.
Speaker 2: This, This was a pivotal win for them. Nicola Jokic
Speaker 2: had his worst night minus thirty six plus minus lowest
Speaker 2: plus plus minor physicist career. He had six files, six turnovers.
Speaker 2: He had six buckets. I agree with you. I thought
Speaker 2: everybody came out with with a system of urgency, with
Speaker 2: a purpose.
Speaker 3: They are they unselfish.
Speaker 2: They only had nine turnovers, but they turned the nuggets
Speaker 2: over twenty times. And when you turn a team over
Speaker 2: that many times, you can get some easy buckets. You
Speaker 2: get easy buckets. And all of a sudden, you got
Speaker 2: the crowd into the game and they didn't stop every everything.
Speaker 2: I mean, they got so many easy shots, you cashe
Speaker 2: was eleven or thirteen.
Speaker 3: Hartenstein six of seven, Jaylen Williams six.
Speaker 2: Of eleven, one of two, one of one, one of
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I mean you got the role players
Speaker 2: coming in. But for the most part, at one point
Speaker 2: in time, they were shooting fifty nine sixty percent.
Speaker 3: From the floor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just you let a team shoot sixty percent
Speaker 2: from the floor, You let a team shoot over forty
Speaker 2: percent from the three, and you let it shoot a
Speaker 2: team shoot over ninety percent from the pre throw line.
Speaker 3: This is what you're gonna get, O Joe.
Speaker 2: If y'all like you got a guy throws for three hundred,
Speaker 2: he got a two hundred yard Russia and to receiver
Speaker 2: withs over one hundred yards. Well, they're gonna have Debiel,
Speaker 2: They're gonna have forty plus points. Yeah, oh Joe, you
Speaker 2: look at your nuggets one hundred and six points. Considering
Speaker 2: how well they played to come back and win that game,
Speaker 2: what did it? What was most disappointed about what you
Speaker 2: saw from the Nuggets?
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously they allowed Sga to set the tone.
Speaker 1: I mean the entire team. There was really nothing Nigga
Speaker 1: do it was, there was really nothing. Yogis obviously had
Speaker 1: a bad night. Yogis had a bad night. Porter didn't
Speaker 1: do much. Aaron Gordon, he ain't done much of this series.
Speaker 1: We go ahead, he hasn't. But I think it's not
Speaker 1: what the Nuggets can do. But it's what it's what
Speaker 1: it is. What okayc did? They came out on fire, boy,
Speaker 1: they came out on fire, and they understood, you know what,
Speaker 1: there was no reason we were supposed to let that
Speaker 1: first game.
Speaker 3: Y'all was supposed to win the first game. We come
Speaker 3: in here, We for the player around, We for the
Speaker 3: bull drive around.
Speaker 1: We Fina set the tone earlier and everything coming, everything
Speaker 1: starting stops. Well, g man, he sent the tone right
Speaker 1: away on how eleventh he was eleventh, eleven from the line.
Speaker 1: Then he left for thirteen the field goals. Then he
Speaker 1: had man, he was a fishing all night. Then you
Speaker 1: got the bench, the goddamn bench going crazy.
Speaker 3: Joe. Yeah, the boys.
Speaker 1: Coming in, they scoring, So I mean, I don't think
Speaker 1: there was anything that nothing could have done to win
Speaker 1: this game tonight.
Speaker 3: Absolutely not. I agree with you.
Speaker 2: I think the thing is is that he's the head
Speaker 2: of the snake, and so when he goes all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, he see a couple of shots go in.
Speaker 2: Everybody saw a couple of shots go in. She got
Speaker 2: off to a really great start start. He a tone
Speaker 2: for those two free throws. I'm sure he'd like to
Speaker 2: have those back, but unfortunately you don't get those backs.
Speaker 2: He was perfect from the free throw line. I mean
Speaker 2: they was thirty three or thirty six. So even though
Speaker 2: they shot, they shot thirty six threes. Thirty six from
Speaker 2: thirty six free throw attempts tell me their extres still
Speaker 2: extremely aggressive, Joe. Because when you shoot that many threes,
Speaker 2: that's telling me you are extremely aggressive. Even though you
Speaker 2: still got thirty plus three point shots up, you got
Speaker 2: thirty six attempts from the free throw line. So I'm
Speaker 2: not settling heat, Boston. We're gonna get to you in
Speaker 2: just a second. Them putting pressure on the defense, Hey,
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to slide, continuously slide. And guess what
Speaker 2: the on the glass? They were on the glass tonight
Speaker 2: they get second chance. They were diving on the floor,
Speaker 2: they were getting loose balls. They were not going to
Speaker 2: let this game slip by them tonight, and they won
Speaker 2: the ball game. I thought they were gonna win by fifty,
Speaker 2: have another fifty point win, because if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 2: they beat Memphis I think the first game by fifty plus.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and looked like they were about to have another one.
Speaker 3: But when you.
Speaker 2: Score forty forty five, forty two thirty seven, that game
Speaker 2: was over. I mean, by the time your starter is
Speaker 2: gonna be set down, but it will be chilling because
Speaker 2: what SGA played thirty minutes. Nobody else played more than
Speaker 2: thirty minutes. SGA played the most. Hongern played twenty six,
Speaker 2: Jalen Williams played twenty six, Hartenstein played twenty two, lou
Speaker 2: Dort played twenty seven, and then you got your role
Speaker 2: players playing twelve the most. I say, Joe, he played
Speaker 2: seventeen he had fourteen points. But that's good because the
Speaker 2: next game is what Saturday? I think the next game
Speaker 2: is Saturday. So now you get a head start on rest,
Speaker 2: you get recovered. The guy's probably with you know, pat
Speaker 2: ice on their knees in the ankles to start, and
Speaker 2: now you get two days off, so they're gonna huh
Speaker 2: oh the game is Friday. Okay, what hell? This was
Speaker 2: the easy game for them. This was the easy left.
Speaker 2: This was like a shoot around, yeah, because it was okay. See,
Speaker 2: this is good for them, though, you know, a good
Speaker 2: confidence booster getting ready to go on the road. You know,
Speaker 2: playing in Denver, it's gonna be a tough atmosphere, you know.
Speaker 2: You know, Denver was gonna play a lot better at home.
Speaker 2: You know, hopefully he plays better him and Gordon.
Speaker 3: I'm not so sure. I wouldn't start Russ. I mean
Speaker 3: I've seen that.
Speaker 2: I mean, at some point in time, you gotta get
Speaker 2: I gotta get more out of him, Joe. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm getting zero points, I'm getting two points in the
Speaker 2: first half.
Speaker 3: That's not enough.
Speaker 1: But don't you think it's better to have Russ coming
Speaker 1: off the bench to give you that energy, that spark.
Speaker 2: I know you're giving that energy, but he's given you energy.
Speaker 2: You're so far in the hole. Yeah, yeah, you see
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, because you see you spotted him. I mean,
Speaker 2: you have a two enough to lead and the next
Speaker 2: thing you know you're down is twenty to four, and
Speaker 2: the next thing you know, it's thirty, it's thirty six
Speaker 2: to twelve.
Speaker 3: I don't think they're gonna do that though, Okay, oh yack,
Speaker 3: I don't think so.
Speaker 2: Then they don't keep Westbrook come off the bench because
Speaker 2: of his his spark, you know, his emotional leadership that
Speaker 2: he brings. They need that. They don't need him in
Speaker 2: that starting line up. I'm sorry, I don't want to
Speaker 2: see him in the starting lineup. I want to see
Speaker 2: him continue to come off the bench. But I think
Speaker 2: if you denver Man, you gotta kind of just ball
Speaker 2: this on up and throw it out the window. Brot
Speaker 2: want to watch him, Ben Joe, you can't even watch
Speaker 2: film on this and we down. I mean, it ain't
Speaker 2: there's no pluses that you could take away from it.
Speaker 2: You just gotta you just gotta be happy with the
Speaker 2: fact that you went to ok see, you won the
Speaker 2: first game, you got one, so to me, it kind
Speaker 2: of looked like they just kind of, you know, they
Speaker 2: they were it looked like they were satisfied with that side.
Speaker 3: That's exactly what they looked like.
Speaker 2: They were kind of satisfied a little bit as I'm
Speaker 2: watching it, because they ain't had that that bite, that
Speaker 2: bite back of the sense of urgency that you need
Speaker 2: to compete on the road. And I'm like, man, being
Speaker 2: down fifty on the road, that's crazy in the playoffs,
Speaker 2: Like I've never seen it like that.
Speaker 3: Like, okay, credit for this moment. Mm hmm. I know
Speaker 3: I young and Joe, I know it's really early.
Speaker 1: But the Thunder official and now themselves as a legit
Speaker 1: finals threat or do you still think them is gonna
Speaker 1: come out with the series?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: They been?
Speaker 3: Did that?
Speaker 2: I mean, you don't win as many games as they
Speaker 2: won and not be a serious contender. They're still the
Speaker 2: youngest team in the NBA. But if you look at this, ohto,
Speaker 2: they've beaten a lot of teams like this in the
Speaker 2: regular season.
Speaker 1: But it's a se game series, though it's different, it's
Speaker 1: the playoffs seven game series. Can they can they continue
Speaker 1: to do this throughout throughout the series? Though tonight no
Speaker 1: nobody can do that. This is I mean, there's a
Speaker 1: reason why. Think about what they did. Think about what
Speaker 1: you just said. Can they continuously do this? But yeah,
Speaker 1: can they continuously? They won sixty seven games for a reason.
Speaker 1: They beat the best teams in the NBA, and they
Speaker 1: beat them decisively. If you look at that plus that
Speaker 1: plus margin of victory, it's been sensational. It's been one
Speaker 1: of the best in NBA history.
Speaker 2: So absolutely, they've been announced themselves because if you think
Speaker 2: about it, last year they kind of underperformed because a
Speaker 2: Luka and Kyrie did a number on them. They're really young,
Speaker 2: they're still the youngest team in the NBA, but they're
Speaker 2: absolutely you know what you're gonna get. They got those
Speaker 2: two bigs and they got the MVP. Now, Jalen Williams
Speaker 2: had his best game, but if you think about it,
Speaker 2: he still didn't shoot. He wasn't that efficient. He's better
Speaker 2: than he's an All Star. He's better than what he's
Speaker 2: been showing in the postseason. So what happens when he
Speaker 2: gets it going. This was Shaye's best game that Shaye
Speaker 2: had played some games, but he was shooting forty one
Speaker 2: percent coming into this. Get what forty percent forty one
Speaker 2: point seven. So now this is more like the shade
Speaker 2: we're used to seeing a guy that can give you
Speaker 2: thirty or fifty plus percent shooting, that's what we're used
Speaker 2: to seeing. Yeah, him playing like that. No, do I
Speaker 2: think they're gonna get the one forty nine nine? Probably not?
Speaker 2: But do I think they can play it? Just even
Speaker 2: if you don't score one forty nine, you can still
Speaker 2: play well and not get one forty nine. You can
Speaker 2: play well and get one twenty one, twenty five, one thirty,
Speaker 2: but you have I mean, think about o Jo. That's
Speaker 2: the most points in NBA history and a half.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, so the NBA they going on for seventy
Speaker 3: seven per cent down in eighty years. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So the Nuggets, Nuggets, the Nuggers team, they don't have
Speaker 1: nothing to be worried about. Nuggas fans. Is it a bag,
Speaker 1: it's just a bad Is this a bad game? Or
Speaker 1: should they be worried? They should be worried there, I mean,
Speaker 1: the thunder was the number one seed. Point.
Speaker 2: Reason this is they're not a fluke, They're not this
Speaker 2: this is this has been this has been building. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and it goes you know, last year where they probably
Speaker 2: was a year early. Right, they've ride, They've arrived, they believe.
Speaker 3: I think they they.
Speaker 2: Definitely have arrived, but uh, you know they've been tested
Speaker 2: because now they got to go on the road to
Speaker 2: play against a tough Denver team, and they have to
Speaker 2: win in Denver. They gotta want to get their home
Speaker 2: court back. They gotta win, want to get their home
Speaker 2: court back. So, uh, look, I think coming into this
Speaker 2: series with okay See being off for such time, uh
Speaker 2: in Denver, you know, going through that grueling seven game
Speaker 2: series with the Clippers, they came in with a little
Speaker 2: momentum and uh you think they kind of hit okay
Speaker 2: See in the mouth and it shocked them. Now I
Speaker 2: think they, you know, took a step back, but today
Speaker 2: they took a step forward as far as you know,
Speaker 2: regaining their confidence coming out playing ok See basketball, playing
Speaker 2: that the pressed up, dolled up defense from start to finish.
Speaker 2: I mean, this this was an awesome game by okay See.
Speaker 2: And it's just you know, momentum going in the Game
Speaker 2: three and them the Knicks storm back to beat the Celtics.
Speaker 2: The Knicks are going to lead in the number two
Speaker 2: seed Boston Celtics twenty point come back consecutive days. This
Speaker 2: is the first time this has happened and the playoffs
Speaker 2: since the tracking started in nineteen ninety eight. Jalen Brunson again,
Speaker 2: nine points, three or six, two or two from the
Speaker 2: free throw line the Knick I mean, huh, seventeen points. Oh,
Speaker 2: this is fourth This is a fourth quarter station.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: The Knicks have scored two hundred and twenty six points
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarters this postseason. This is the most
Speaker 2: by any team. There's a reason, the reason why Jalen
Speaker 2: Brunson won the Clutch Award.
Speaker 3: He's that.
Speaker 2: But I thought the guy that really saved them was
Speaker 2: Michael Bridges. Mcial Bridges had no points and in the
Speaker 2: fourth quarter he goes and gets fourteen. And the Celtics
Speaker 2: not gonna learn. You keep saying that they won the championship.
Speaker 2: At some point in time, They're gonna realize. You see
Speaker 2: what happens when the threes don't fall point lead and
Speaker 2: you keep shooting breeze. The last thing you know, if
Speaker 2: the twelve point lead, if an eight point lead, and
Speaker 2: now all of a sudden they got a one point
Speaker 2: lead or three point lead on you.
Speaker 3: Well, hold on.
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta question, Joe. Listen, if you live
Speaker 1: and die by the three, at what point do you
Speaker 1: make adjustments? Isn't that on the head coach? If you
Speaker 1: if you know you have a team, you have players
Speaker 1: that can play, you have offensive players that you can run,
Speaker 1: and you stellly just chucking up three and they're not
Speaker 1: going in the point, do you call the time out
Speaker 1: and change some.
Speaker 2: Much ojo ojo. They ain't got nothing to do with
Speaker 2: Joe Missoula. They ain't got nothing to do with the coach.
Speaker 2: I put the honest and blame on Tatum and Brown.
Speaker 2: You know, yes, because they are the most talented duo
Speaker 2: that we have in the NBA right now. Nobody can
Speaker 2: guard them too. It took it took them halfway through
Speaker 2: the first quarter before Jalen Brown decided to go mid posts.
Speaker 2: And you know he got an an one from the
Speaker 2: mid post. He be shide the ball, got an an one,
Speaker 2: come right back down. He in the midpost again, he
Speaker 2: scored another bucket. Well, that kind of got him going.
Speaker 2: Then next thing, you know, he and his bag to
Speaker 2: start off, he got off. I think he got off
Speaker 2: to a great start. He was ready.
Speaker 3: Well, man, it's like, then, what happened, Joe?
Speaker 2: They start jacking up threes. It's like, start gotting up
Speaker 2: all these threes. I'm like, bro, y'all gotta keep going
Speaker 2: to the wheel, you know, keep getting water from there, man, Like,
Speaker 2: keep milking that because even though New York got some
Speaker 2: wings that can guard, I don't.
Speaker 3: I just don't think.
Speaker 2: I think if Tatum, I think Tatum and brown got
Speaker 2: another level they can go to, and I think they
Speaker 2: just letting them dudes off the hook man going with them,
Speaker 2: step back, jump shots.
Speaker 3: Let me do something, ten eleven, twelve, fifteen threes a game.
Speaker 2: O own your win in the playoffs, man, Like, I expect,
Speaker 2: you know, the best, the cream, the rise to the
Speaker 2: top as far as talent wise, and I look forward
Speaker 2: to Tatum and Brown man starting to get to that cup. Bro, Like,
Speaker 2: you can't keep selling for all these threes. You know,
Speaker 2: the MIDI I always talk about the mid range game,
Speaker 2: but it's always open because they got a lot of
Speaker 2: their bad And what we gotta do is give New
Speaker 2: York a lot of credit. Dog, giving New York a
Speaker 2: lot of credit for them guys sitting down, switching on
Speaker 2: defense and just playing man to make good one on
Speaker 2: one man the man defense and making them.
Speaker 3: Dudes take tough shots that when you look at it.
Speaker 2: McHale Bridges in Game two, in the fourth quarter he
Speaker 2: was sensation of fourteen points. All of its points came
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter. He had seven rebounds, five assistant,
Speaker 2: two steals. But like you said, Jason Tatum five of
Speaker 2: twenty from the field, Jaylen Brown eight of twenty three
Speaker 2: from the field, two or seven from the three.
Speaker 3: One to five.
Speaker 2: Al Horford has been bad the first two games. Al
Speaker 2: Horford has been bad, you know, and you see, this
Speaker 2: is the cat I've been asking for.
Speaker 3: What did he do with Joe? He took a big
Speaker 3: butt down to the posts. They gave it to as Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: He was selling for no threes.
Speaker 2: He shouldn't seller for the three he attempted one three tonight.
Speaker 3: Yeah one. He was aggressive.
Speaker 2: This is see, this is cat Carl Anthon the towns
Speaker 2: like to shoot threes. Try like to get his big
Speaker 2: butt down of the block and punish folk they got.
Speaker 2: Nobody can guard him. Don't let us off the hook.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I agree, I agree.
Speaker 1: Say, oh hey, cat, cat control the interior man against
Speaker 1: the Celtics all game long. He out rebounded the Knicks.
Speaker 1: I mean, hold on, he he out rebounded the Knicks.
Speaker 1: I mean the Knicks. He out really rebounded the Celtics.
Speaker 1: Damn there all by itself. Yeah, thing seventeen that I
Speaker 1: still don't understand, Joe and un I don't understand when
Speaker 1: we go when we play two halves, right and we
Speaker 1: going the halftime, the first thing we do if something
Speaker 1: not working are what we normally do.
Speaker 3: We scrap it, we go to something else.
Speaker 1: So y'all to sitting here telling me this is the
Speaker 1: way they played and they gonna live and die by
Speaker 1: the three.
Speaker 3: Well, something got to change because this is looking y'all
Speaker 3: told me, both of y'all told me that the Celtics
Speaker 3: was gonna win this series, and the way he's looking
Speaker 3: right now, it's about to be a gentleman sweep the
Speaker 3: other guy there, white.
Speaker 2: O Joe, hold up, now, we do have to pause
Speaker 2: a little bit because this series ain't over. Bro Boston,
Speaker 2: I know, I know, I know, but down two that
Speaker 2: makes it that much more difficult. Yet, but they the
Speaker 2: best road team in the NBA. For whatever reason, they've
Speaker 2: been the best road team in the NBA and they
Speaker 2: play well on the road, whether it's just because it's
Speaker 2: just them players in their locker room. I don't know
Speaker 2: what it is, but they squandered away two games. So
Speaker 2: I look for assistant desperation coming from the Celtics when
Speaker 2: they go to New York. Now, New York gonna be live.
Speaker 2: The people are gonna be in there ready, Man, They're
Speaker 2: gonna be in the yeah and best legal act of
Speaker 2: the dawn for man. Man, it's gonna be looking to
Speaker 2: do the right thing. You'l days however, you want to say,
Speaker 2: if the fight go be on one, Yeah, a Joe,
Speaker 2: I'm glad you just said that.
Speaker 1: You said the Celtics now would be in an active desperation.
Speaker 1: So what's the first thing when a team that is
Speaker 1: definitely what's the first thing they're gonna do? Go to
Speaker 1: what they know how to do best?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Jack up three? And how does that work? The past
Speaker 3: two games? I got them, Joe, Joe, you said it, Joe.
Speaker 2: They were doing good to Joe, they were driving the ball,
Speaker 2: get the ball to the pay and then all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, I mean they got they got through like
Speaker 2: three offensive rebound yeah three, miss three, miss three, and then.
Speaker 3: Talk about I'm talking about it.
Speaker 2: It's like it's like in the second half, I could
Speaker 2: kind of feel it like just dwindling away.
Speaker 3: It's like, I don't know, man, New York.
Speaker 2: You know, in the fourth quarter especially, they just went
Speaker 2: into another gear and the only thing New York wanna do.
Speaker 2: They just want to hang around. Okay, oh Joe, that
Speaker 2: that stick round. They want to be They have a
Speaker 2: fighting chance with the last five fants of the game.
Speaker 2: And it's like from the Detroit series now to this
Speaker 2: series against Boston and you have kept themselves alive. Man,
Speaker 2: They've been down twenty points in both games on the
Speaker 2: road and you come back and in the fourth quarter
Speaker 2: under five minutes, you have a fighting chance.
Speaker 3: And every time they've came.
Speaker 2: Through and clutch moments, they made big plays defensively. Give
Speaker 2: Micheal Bridges his props because he's Josh. Get Josh Hart's
Speaker 2: credit to if I'm just speaking from Michale making these
Speaker 2: huge players at the end of the game one and
Speaker 2: the in the game too. Yep, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I got see what happens, oo cho. They had gotten
Speaker 2: so far the rhythm. See, the thing is when you
Speaker 2: take so many threes, you you've forgotten how to run
Speaker 2: set plays because all you do is used to jacket
Speaker 2: up threes. You put the high pick and guess what,
Speaker 2: launcher three? They get the switch larger three launcher three.
Speaker 2: So now in the fourth and now in the last
Speaker 2: final two minutes of the game, when you need something
Speaker 2: going to the basket, it's hard to get some. Now
Speaker 2: they got to had a great play with Jason Tatum.
Speaker 2: They got the high pick and he split it and
Speaker 2: he dunked the ball. They tried to run that same play,
Speaker 2: but oh g did a great job of sinking and.
Speaker 3: Wouldn't let it.
Speaker 2: So they had him, had him leveled off, and then
Speaker 2: they pushed him to the corner, and so he got
Speaker 2: there and there, and there's Mitchell Robinson and there's Michel Bridges.
Speaker 2: So they had it himed up and he really couldn't
Speaker 2: go anywhere. So he's looking to pass the ball mckal
Speaker 2: bridges deflected. They got it, throw it ahead. But that's
Speaker 2: what happens when you're used to jacket up for It's
Speaker 2: like a football game with all you're doing is used
Speaker 2: to run Atlanta. All they were used to doing was
Speaker 2: throwing the ball. Throwing the ball. Now, all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: O Joe you need to run the ball to take
Speaker 2: your time off the clock. Well, ain't got no running
Speaker 2: players on yo New England game? Yes, so because guess
Speaker 2: what in the second half you threw You ran the
Speaker 2: ball less than the New England and they were the
Speaker 2: one that was down twenty eighty three.
Speaker 3: So how is that possible?
Speaker 2: You got you a rush attempts and you up by
Speaker 2: twenty five, Ben the team that's down by twenty five.
Speaker 2: Make it make sense and you see what happens. Think
Speaker 2: about how they got the lead, got a twenty point lead.
Speaker 2: They running the ball? Who lay up Holiday doing what
Speaker 2: he's doing? The look they trying to get hollered. They
Speaker 2: trying to pick Holiday off of Brunson. They want they
Speaker 2: want to anybody else they try to get the.
Speaker 3: Match up with.
Speaker 2: They're gonna get the match up with Preaching if he's
Speaker 2: in there. They won't that matchup if they got Al Horford. Hey, Al,
Speaker 2: you busy committed to Hall as your quick and you see, brother,
Speaker 2: he has it. He got that handy, he ate he
Speaker 2: up faked.
Speaker 3: You jumped again. He going around you.
Speaker 2: Now if you sit hand down, Mark Jackson, if your
Speaker 2: hand down, man down.
Speaker 3: And he pulling.
Speaker 2: So look at some point in time it looks good,
Speaker 2: O Joe. They took and you're not Golden State. Jason
Speaker 2: Tatum and Jaylen Brown. You're not Golden State. You're not
Speaker 2: Stephan Clay. You're never gonna be known as the greatest
Speaker 2: shooting backcourt in the NBA history. It's not gonna happen. Hey,
Speaker 2: so I don't care. I don't care if you shoot
Speaker 2: a thousand and three each of you. By I mean
Speaker 2: you shoot a thousand. Uh, Derrick White shoot a thousand.
Speaker 2: That's three thousand free between those three players. Nobody is
Speaker 2: ever gonna confuse you three guys with Stephan Clay. It's
Speaker 2: not gonna happen. Man, Listen, we gotta get in New
Speaker 2: York credit though. Okay, oh Joe, you know still want
Speaker 2: to see the thing that's keeping out and they big,
Speaker 2: you know, limited is because when they run the pick
Speaker 2: and roll, they not doubling the ball, they're not doing nonheing.
Speaker 2: They switching and they make Nyalen Brown and Jason Tatum
Speaker 2: going to their bag. And you're gonna have to show
Speaker 2: us something the way if you can score thirty or
Speaker 2: forty one on one, Okay, cool, We're gonna deal with that.
Speaker 2: But the thing is Boston has had a hard time
Speaker 2: Jayalen Brown and Jason Tatum has had a tough time
Speaker 2: against Michal Bridges, Og, Josh Hart, josh O g. You know,
Speaker 2: even Cata sat down and guarded Tatum and Brown on
Speaker 2: multiple occasions.
Speaker 3: So you know, those dudes are not for the fight, man,
Speaker 3: They ain't playing. They come to win, and they've shown
Speaker 3: in both games just just such a gritty, gritty, tough team. Bro.
Speaker 3: They've been like that the whole year.
Speaker 2: And when you watch these dudes play, you look at
Speaker 2: they starting five and all the minutes that they they
Speaker 2: packing in.
Speaker 3: I'm like they log forty three.
Speaker 2: Michael Bridges had forty three to night, Og had thirty eight.
Speaker 2: Towns had thirty five, Bruns and had thirty eight. Josh
Speaker 2: Hart had forty three.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's just me, but Jaylen Brown got the loosest
Speaker 2: handles I've seen about NBA Super NBA star player, a
Speaker 2: guy that that's good. His handles shouldn't be that loose joke. Now,
Speaker 2: they shouldn't be a sixth turno. He had six turn
Speaker 2: over the day. Yeah, I mean, I'm talking about his handles.
Speaker 2: I mean, and it plagged him. You remember when they
Speaker 2: lost the Golden State. It was his handles. He kept
Speaker 2: getting the ball swipe. He couldn't score consistent. And Jason
Speaker 2: Tatum was even worse than Jaylen Brown, if you can
Speaker 2: believe that.
Speaker 3: But they fixed it. They right or wrong.
Speaker 2: They ended up winning a championship. But they better get
Speaker 2: in a The worst thing you can do is give
Speaker 2: a guy confidence. Man a goy knock you down in
Speaker 2: the fight.
Speaker 3: He might have.
Speaker 2: Oh he a heavy underdog. That's the And the longer
Speaker 2: you leave a guy round o Joe, Yeah, but more
Speaker 2: he thinking you beat you. That's what happened with Buster Douglas.
Speaker 2: See all of a sudden, Mike Tyson be getting out
Speaker 2: there in the first three and now we in deep water.
Speaker 2: I don't know how well you can swim. I know
Speaker 2: in the kiddy you can stand your ass up, and
Speaker 2: the water's only waist deep. I got your ass right here.
Speaker 2: Your feet can't touch the bottom. Hey, listen, New York.
Speaker 2: Don't play on coming back to Boston. Guy.
Speaker 3: They don't play no I do.
Speaker 1: They don't play it on its Listen, it's not looking good.
Speaker 1: I don't know how many Celtics fans we have in
Speaker 1: the chat that are watching. I would like to know
Speaker 1: in the chat if you feel like the Celtics have
Speaker 1: an opportunity or chance to come back, Please let me know.
Speaker 1: Please let me know, because based on what I've seen
Speaker 1: the past two games and the little bit of knowledge
Speaker 1: I know from watching the games the past two three years,
Speaker 1: it's not looking good.
Speaker 3: Chan, I know you mad, you're upset. Nixon five.
Speaker 2: Hey, think about the Celtic shot fifteen free throws. Now
Speaker 2: they've missed. They've missed seventy five threes in two games.
Speaker 2: Damn seventy five. They shot twenty five percent. They shot
Speaker 2: twenty five percent to night. Ask what did shoot the
Speaker 2: other night? On my they was fifteen or sixty.
Speaker 1: But hey, Joe, they're not gonna look like that the
Speaker 1: rest of the series, though they don't have a game
Speaker 1: with Derek White.
Speaker 3: You said they were to look like that. You said
Speaker 3: they were gonna look like this in game two. That's
Speaker 3: two games I said that they shot.
Speaker 2: Guess what they shot twenty five percent the first game. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think I think the I think the Knicks making
Speaker 2: an emphasis. You know, I know they I know I
Speaker 2: know the Celtics missal a few wide opens. But I
Speaker 2: think the Knicks making an emphasis not to give up
Speaker 2: wide open. You know, too many wiles. Yes, right, they
Speaker 2: contested every year. Yeah, yeah, they're making it tough. Man.
Speaker 2: They're making them do his work now, you know, on
Speaker 2: both fans of the floor, and uh I'm not sure
Speaker 2: if it's taking their legs, but I'm Boston, do look
Speaker 2: a little hobble.
Speaker 3: They got the guys they you know, Tatum don't like
Speaker 3: he moving that great. Uhl.
Speaker 2: They don't look like he moving that great. But well,
Speaker 2: Holliday is just coming off that ham string, so I
Speaker 2: expect him to be. And you know, they're making it work.
Speaker 2: I mean the guard Brough, I mean he's taking all
Speaker 2: he got because brunts and a they running them off
Speaker 2: pigs and they keep picking him and doing all those things.
Speaker 2: They're gonna make you go side to side. Cat, this
Speaker 2: is what I'm talking about. Cat one three point attempt,
Speaker 2: he punished al on the block. They ended up having
Speaker 2: to put Jaylen Brown on him. But Jayl, Jayalen too small,
Speaker 2: You're too small. Heiland too small to Jason Tatum too small.
Speaker 2: They ain't got nobody to get deal with Cat if
Speaker 2: can't make up in his mind and This is what
Speaker 2: we've been asking Cat to do. See, this is what
Speaker 2: we asked Cat to do against Dallas last year. But no,
Speaker 2: he wanted to shoot threes. And the game that he
Speaker 2: went down on the block, they ended up winning.
Speaker 3: O Joe. But then guess what next gave me come
Speaker 3: back out there? Hold on, porzingis they can't make that
Speaker 3: justin and at the fatal See, he needs some he
Speaker 3: needs some cinder blocks in his back pocket. I know.
Speaker 1: Well, so you got to have somebody with some size
Speaker 1: and some length in order to deal with Cat. You're
Speaker 1: gonna get the same goddamn results.
Speaker 3: Hey look here, you not you not catching You not
Speaker 3: catching no tuna. Nok ain't pole. So cave pole is
Speaker 3: for brill cave for small catfish. But listen, hey, listen
Speaker 3: to what you just said. Joe.
Speaker 1: You're not even the coast for the Celtics. Matter of fact,
Speaker 1: hold on, you're not even the coast for the Knicks.
Speaker 1: But you just said what to do to win this series? Yeah,
Speaker 1: do the same thing they didn't. Got nobody to deal
Speaker 1: with deal with to deal with Cat, go back to
Speaker 1: old Go back to old schootball, Go back to those
Speaker 1: had the point guard have brush and bring it up
Speaker 1: and had got damn cat ass and that goddamn posts
Speaker 1: or at the instead.
Speaker 3: Of the topic.
Speaker 2: I think I think TIBs coach Tibbs, he like getting
Speaker 2: cat on the move on the goal, Like I don't
Speaker 2: think he really wanted to like stand still, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, dumping it down that to him.
Speaker 3: Like, I know, they will do it, especially in the
Speaker 3: fourth quarter.
Speaker 2: They've done it quite a bit, you know, going down
Speaker 2: the stretch, but to start the game off, they trying
Speaker 2: to get it moving more pick and roll, picking pop,
Speaker 2: you know, things of that sort. But it's kind of
Speaker 2: Boston taking that that pick and pop away a little
Speaker 2: bit too because they switch everything as well on Yeah, and.
Speaker 3: They got the lead.
Speaker 2: Defend, you know, Al normally a better defender than that,
Speaker 2: but Darry White can defend. Holliday and Derrick White both
Speaker 2: was all on the All Defensive team. We saw Jaylen
Speaker 2: Brown do a great job on Luca last year in
Speaker 2: the playoffs. Al Horford is normally a better defending than
Speaker 2: what he's been showing these first two games.
Speaker 3: I think he'll pick that up.
Speaker 2: But the thing is is that, you know, like you said,
Speaker 2: you got to give the Nicks some credit the Niggs
Speaker 2: executing their offense, especially especially when the rubber needs to
Speaker 2: meet the role. This is that. Look, I don't want
Speaker 2: to hear how good your offense is or your defense
Speaker 2: is if you can't get done what you need to
Speaker 2: get done when you absolutely got to happen. We talk
Speaker 2: about this all the time, joein football, Oh, Jo, and
Speaker 2: I I said, yeah, man, they got the best offensive football,
Speaker 2: but they couldn't stay on the fielding on third down.
Speaker 2: They couldn't get a first down, They couldn't they couldn't
Speaker 2: get the ball in field goal range.
Speaker 3: Well, that don't tell me how good you are.
Speaker 2: Okay, my defense, they're giving up ten points a game, well,
Speaker 2: while you let them go right down the field and
Speaker 2: to score touchdown and win the game.
Speaker 3: So it doesn't matter what yours, your statistics say.
Speaker 2: It only matters can you get done what you need
Speaker 2: to get done when you absolutely have to have it,
Speaker 2: and right now when the Knicks need to get it.
Speaker 3: I don't know what they are offensively in the regular season.
Speaker 2: I don't know what they are defensively in the regular season,
Speaker 2: but I know this, when they need to get stops,
Speaker 2: they get them.
Speaker 3: I know when they need to get buckets.
Speaker 2: They get it. It's really that simple. I mean, we
Speaker 2: can make sports as complicated as we want to. We
Speaker 2: can talk about the one you know, we could do
Speaker 2: one flap, you know, one flour. We can do the
Speaker 2: picking pop and we can do all we can do
Speaker 2: all this, we can do flopping, we can do pinning downs,
Speaker 2: and we can do players. Call it whatever you want.
Speaker 2: Can you put the ball in the bucket when you
Speaker 2: need to? Can you stop them from putting the ball
Speaker 2: in the bucket when they need to? And right now,
Speaker 2: one team can put the ball in the bucket when
Speaker 2: they need to, and stop the team from putting in
Speaker 2: the bucket when they need to, and the other team can't.
Speaker 3: It's really that simple. Yeah, I want to play that.
Speaker 3: I want to play that Azata real quick, go ahead,
Speaker 3: Uncle Joe.
Speaker 1: So think about this now. I'm assuming at some point
Speaker 1: that the Celtics is gonna play well, right, Derek White,
Speaker 1: gonna beyond Jayden Brown from beyond. Tatum's gonna show up
Speaker 1: and do it, do it he's used to doing, right.
Speaker 1: But what happens if they go in the Knicks win
Speaker 1: Game three? What happens just just so happened? They still
Speaker 1: a game.
Speaker 2: Winning four three. Because you said, O Joe, you said,
Speaker 2: what happened when the Celtics played well? What happened when
Speaker 2: the next play well? The next shot forty three percent,
Speaker 2: They shot twenty nine percent from the three? What make
Speaker 2: it seem like they playing well? They're not okay? But
Speaker 2: I'm just saying. That's why I said, let me let's
Speaker 2: play Devil get Advocate game three. What happened if they
Speaker 2: still game three to New York, then yeah, and they
Speaker 2: bost him back against the wall. They can't, man, Listen,
Speaker 2: they gotta do whatever they can game three to go
Speaker 2: into Madison Square and win the game.
Speaker 3: Bro, I'll you can win ugly, gonna win pretty, but
Speaker 3: you can't win, Ojo. They can. They're going in game
Speaker 3: three and come out of it down Old three. Bro.
Speaker 2: Nah, they can't. I don't forget. I don't see a
Speaker 2: scenario where they winning for straight.
Speaker 3: You don't.
Speaker 2: You don't see a scenario where, uh if they go
Speaker 2: down Old three. I don't see a scenario with boss
Speaker 2: to win four straight.
Speaker 3: Na. See, I told you I should have I should
Speaker 3: I knew I should have bet, y'all.
Speaker 1: I knew I should have bet because some just told
Speaker 1: me everybody, every analyst, every punding, the basketball as first,
Speaker 1: everybody had their self just winning and the Nickson proving
Speaker 1: everybody wrong.
Speaker 3: Well they proved they they proven all y'all wrong. And
Speaker 3: I just I don't know.
Speaker 1: I know what I'm seeing, I know what I'm seeing,
Speaker 1: and I just, for the life of me, I don't understand. Okay,
Speaker 1: the threes on working run some goddamn players. What the
Speaker 1: eff are we doing? Not we excuse me, my bad,
Speaker 1: but what are they doing?
Speaker 2: It's well, it's kind of oh yo, in the football term,
Speaker 2: when you throwing the ball and bro run it. Bro
Speaker 2: if if like Kansas City, we saw that in the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. You like, hey man, you gotta take fresh
Speaker 2: y'all Patrick home. But they really ain't run the ball
Speaker 2: all year. Their office a lot have been bad. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and so now you get you get a Pachecko. He
Speaker 2: just coming back off injury.
Speaker 3: Uh, Clyde.
Speaker 2: It was a layer that had released him because he
Speaker 2: had some things going on, deal with dealing with some things.
Speaker 2: And they signed some ready, but who I forget who
Speaker 2: they signed and they had the guy from Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: What's the guy? Uh with a big deer? I forget.
Speaker 3: I forget him. He caught.
Speaker 2: He caught the player in the in the championship game
Speaker 2: against Buffalo to run the time out. But when you're
Speaker 2: not used to doing something, oh Joe, it's hard to go.
Speaker 2: You used to throwing the ball, Boston used to shooting
Speaker 2: the three, so it's hard to tell them. Okay, guys,
Speaker 2: let's let's just run some sets now. Yeah, okay, well
Speaker 2: we've bring jacket of threes all year.
Speaker 3: You can't.
Speaker 2: They can't run sins though, because uh, New York is
Speaker 2: switching everything like so they may switch and you may
Speaker 2: catch brust and garden al Horford, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: You wanta try to take buns of that. But outside
Speaker 2: of that, you know, you just hope that Tatum and
Speaker 2: Tatum or Brown'll just take the initiation hip catch five,
Speaker 2: catch it at the elbow, catch it at the at
Speaker 2: the high posts or whatever to where they probably ain't
Speaker 2: even got to take a dribble to even get a
Speaker 2: shot off. But you need them dudes more aggressive, more active,
Speaker 2: probably even less picking rolls, and they got to try
Speaker 2: to get to the basket. Man. If not, you know,
Speaker 2: you know, settle for some of them mid range shots
Speaker 2: versus just selling for fifteen threes at night, you know,
Speaker 2: a piece, you can't have that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they need to play better.
Speaker 2: Cat versus Boston, they had twenty one points, seventeen rebounds.
Speaker 2: He's the first Knicks, first Nick to reach those numbers
Speaker 2: in the playoff game since Carmelo did it in twenty eleven.
Speaker 2: Jason Tatum in Game two, he was thirteen points, fourteen rebounds,
Speaker 2: shot five or twenty from the field. Is it time
Speaker 2: to talk about Jason Tatum because he has not shot
Speaker 2: the well the ball.
Speaker 3: Well, see we go back.
Speaker 2: And look at those thirty five Oh, he had three
Speaker 2: straight games of thirty five points thirty plus more points
Speaker 2: against Orlando. But look at the shooting percentage. Look how
Speaker 2: many shots he took him to get that. Yeah, he's
Speaker 2: shooting forty percent.
Speaker 3: On the floor. Yeah, it's time. It is time to
Speaker 3: have a serious conversation about Jason.
Speaker 2: Tatum because everybody, see, everybody still want to harp on
Speaker 2: what happened in France.
Speaker 3: That happened. We can't go back. We won the gold medal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure everybody would have loved to play seventeen
Speaker 2: to twenty minutes, but that wasn't gonna be the case.
Speaker 3: It's never been the case.
Speaker 2: Just like on the original Dream Team in ninety six
Speaker 2: and two thousand, the redeem team in a row or
Speaker 2: whatever the case may be, everybody over there is deserving.
Speaker 3: And well, he got guys on his teammates holiday playing
Speaker 3: it and I don't care about that. That's over. We
Speaker 3: got the gold medal.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about him now in the playoffs and those
Speaker 2: shooting percentage they beat on Orlando team that they should
Speaker 2: have beat. Now, he struggled shooting the basketball in these playoffs,
Speaker 2: and he struggled struggling shooting and again, and it's time
Speaker 2: to have a conversation. It ain't about no hate. We're
Speaker 2: gonna take the face of the NBA off the table.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about him and his play currently. Yeah, he's
Speaker 2: not He's not the fake. We know who the face
Speaker 2: of the NBA.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Right, I think I think he still has a chance to,
Speaker 2: you know, come out and redeem himself in this series.
Speaker 3: Like I said, the series ain't over.
Speaker 2: I think that they're they're a great, you know, road team,
Speaker 2: and the testament of a true champion is how you
Speaker 2: bounce back and defeat, right, I think, you know, if obsolutely.
Speaker 2: We know they got a championship pedigree they won last year.
Speaker 2: This is probably gonna be the hardest task that they're
Speaker 2: gonna have to deal with going into New York trying
Speaker 2: to win game three. That's all they need to be
Speaker 2: at this point. Don't even worry about Game four. We
Speaker 2: just need to do whatever we can to get Game three,
Speaker 2: and uh, that's the biggest challenge at this point.
Speaker 3: Get some off of this. They need confidence right now.
Speaker 3: I don't care what they're saying.
Speaker 2: Now, they gonna say all the right thing, Joe, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's got like you in the corner and that gotta
Speaker 2: beat hell out you for six d you right, that
Speaker 2: chail he failed, not coach. Somebody here help it. Somebody
Speaker 2: helping it, because I'm looking for the right you know.
Speaker 1: It's only you know, it's only one way for him
Speaker 1: to get confidence. Right, Your shots gotta fall in order
Speaker 1: for Jason Tedding to get in rhythm. He gotta keep shooting,
Speaker 1: even if even if I'm sure, obviously it depends. I
Speaker 1: don't know how his mental is. You know, some some
Speaker 1: players and Millenie strong, they could be happy, they could
Speaker 1: be in a slump.
Speaker 3: They don't care.
Speaker 1: They're gonna keep pulling the sugar if he if he
Speaker 1: have a mental block. But this series might be over,
Speaker 1: especially if they come to the Guard and they and
Speaker 1: they win game three.
Speaker 3: Man, I got I got I got I got boss
Speaker 3: to show us some grit. I got him.
Speaker 1: Sure they they So you whoa hold on, hold on, Joe,
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on now, go ahead when it's game
Speaker 1: three on Saturday, ship saturdayday. So so, Joe, you got
Speaker 1: you got Boston. You got Boston winning game three Saturday.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got Boston winning game three. Are you sure
Speaker 3: about that? You want you want to put you want
Speaker 3: to put a change on that. And you're so flickered, bro,
Speaker 3: I'm scared to even bet. But you ain't gonna lie
Speaker 3: to you. O Joe, No gonna make it light. How
Speaker 3: about you gonna bet it is a light hundred dollars? Nah? Okay,
Speaker 3: all right, all right, O Joe little ain't nothing. That
Speaker 3: ain't nothing.
Speaker 2: Hey, this is how you know Jason Tatum not being aggressive?
Speaker 2: He shot two free throws? Yeah, Jaylen Brown shot four
Speaker 2: free throws. Those are your two best players, and they
Speaker 2: shot a combined six free throws between the two of them.
Speaker 3: You know, wait, it's hard to get it. It's hard
Speaker 3: to get to the whole. It's hard to get to
Speaker 3: the paint. It's hard to get in there and freeze. Oh, Joe,
Speaker 3: I ain't founding no jump shooter. Hell look, let you
Speaker 3: shoot it.
Speaker 2: If you want to stand it, if you want to
Speaker 2: stand up there in chunking a if you want to
Speaker 2: stay out there and chunk it in the ocean, go
Speaker 2: right ahead.
Speaker 3: You ain't doing no damage.
Speaker 2: Ain't listen. That's why I say we got to get
Speaker 2: New York credit. Man, It ain't it ain't that. It
Speaker 2: ain't that easy. Like them dudes sitting down, they playing,
Speaker 2: They guarden, they pay to move, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like they ain't just giving them dudes on layups. I
Speaker 2: just think Tatum and Brown are so talented. They talented
Speaker 2: enough to be able to and pose their will as
Speaker 2: far as scoring the basketball, like nobody should be able
Speaker 2: to stop them to. They too gifted, Bro, They got
Speaker 2: too many tools in their toolbox and they just using
Speaker 2: this one.
Speaker 3: Rent. Man, you got to bring something that's upbout their toolbox. Bro.
Speaker 3: But but Joe, you know, when you have success doing something,
Speaker 3: it's hard for you.
Speaker 2: You Hey, if Karee. What happens is I be thinking
Speaker 2: about it. If somebody could take away that sky hook,
Speaker 2: what is Kareem's gonna go to. He's had success with
Speaker 2: this skuyhook so much. That's all he knows.
Speaker 3: Because they've shot the ball so well from three, they've
Speaker 3: made the three.
Speaker 2: Oh you know, when they lose a game and they
Speaker 2: shot thirty three, I tell them what the problem is,
Speaker 2: we should have shot forty, we should have shot fifty.
Speaker 2: So that's ingrained in their mind. So now hey, let's
Speaker 2: not go to the basket. Let's not try to get filed.
Speaker 2: Let's not try to do that. Let's just stand back
Speaker 2: here at jack threes. Eventually they're gonna go in. They might,
Speaker 2: but they might not go into this series when they
Speaker 2: are deadly when they're attacking the basket, like I said
Speaker 2: early in the game, man, when they were getting to
Speaker 2: the cup, making plays, you know, getting getting offense, getting
Speaker 2: second chance offensive points, you know, things of that sort.
Speaker 2: Because see, when you attack the basket, even if you
Speaker 2: don't mention, you give yourself a chance to get a
Speaker 2: put back or something. But when you just out there
Speaker 2: shooting them long threes, man, and they bouncing off, they
Speaker 2: fast breaking it the other way.
Speaker 3: You know what.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a momentum momentum buster. And uh, that's what
Speaker 2: them threes do. That's what them threes are doing. Man,
Speaker 2: they lead to, you know, mismatches on the other end.
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not. I'm not Cleo. You know I'm not.
Speaker 1: Uh, I'm not really one that's able to tell the future.
Speaker 1: I think the final gonna be Nixon Wolves.
Speaker 3: You think Nixon? Who I know, y'all, I know I
Speaker 3: probably don't like it. Yeah, I'm telling you, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know if the I don't know if the
Speaker 3: Wolves can beat the Thunder. What else I'm telling you? Listen,
Speaker 3: because here's the thing.
Speaker 2: If the Wolves play their best in the Thunder play
Speaker 2: their best, who you taking, Joe, I'm probably taking Okay,
Speaker 2: see exactly.
Speaker 3: That's the thing you told.
Speaker 1: Y'all told me it was gonna be a gentleman sweeping
Speaker 1: this series and it they down too old.
Speaker 3: So but that didn't okay.
Speaker 2: See, Hey, yeah, I think if you just saying, if
Speaker 2: you say, if you said, I think you said, Hey,
Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about them in a minute. But don't
Speaker 2: you sleep on Indiana now, because Indiana gonna push the pace.
Speaker 2: Make a miss, they get it out the basket or
Speaker 2: they get it off the rim. But they pushing tipple right,
Speaker 2: They're gonna make it. They're going to make you. They're
Speaker 2: gonna make you defend.
Speaker 3: Quick. They cutting their backs, They doing an unbelievable jobs.
Speaker 2: And Jason Tatum in the first Jason Tatum in the
Speaker 2: first half one for seven, two points, Jaylen Brown in
Speaker 2: the second half, one for seven, three points, four turnovers.
Speaker 2: Now your two best playoffs. That's what they gave you. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they need they need way more contribution from them to Uh.
Speaker 2: Like I say, man, I just think just they have
Speaker 2: to assert themselves into the game, you know, not waiting
Speaker 2: for these three point opportunities or these switches and mismatches. Man,
Speaker 2: sometimes you gotta go take it, bro. You got to
Speaker 2: initiate yourself with it's crashing the glass, getting easy layups,
Speaker 2: back doing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, set and picks, things of that sort.
Speaker 2: Uh. Because they too talented, Okay, oh jo, they too talent,
Speaker 2: and like I said, they want they approven champion they
Speaker 2: wanted last year. This is just a test and a
Speaker 2: stepping stone into their legacy as far as how they
Speaker 2: want to be remembered as far as people and they
Speaker 2: trying to repeat. Obviously they know they got did they
Speaker 2: like this deep hole? Which I think they could do.
Speaker 2: The thing I like to tell people all the time, Joe,
Speaker 2: I say, there have been plenty of teams that's won
Speaker 2: one in a row.
Speaker 3: Right to be special?
Speaker 2: Go repeat football, basketball, baseball, hockey, it doesn't matter. Repeat.
Speaker 2: There were a lot of teams that wasn't won in
Speaker 2: the row. Yeah, you gotta be locked in, bro, there's
Speaker 2: a reason why you have so many have so few
Speaker 2: repeat champions. Go look at the sports now, you know,
Speaker 2: I mean way back where it used to get it
Speaker 2: a lot. I mean, I think the Islanders, I mean
Speaker 2: back in the late seventies eighty they won four straight
Speaker 2: Stanley Cups. Basketball, you get, I mean, think about it.
Speaker 2: You get the three p Lakers, you get the three peat.
Speaker 2: Celtics did it twice. Nobody that's repeated now. The Celtics
Speaker 2: ran off eighth straight. But the great, but the great
Speaker 2: Spurs team they never repeated that Big Three Celtics they
Speaker 2: never repeated. I mean they as a matter of fact,
Speaker 2: the Celtics and Spurs never won back to back. It's
Speaker 2: hard to do.
Speaker 3: To keep that focus year after year after year. It's special.
Speaker 2: It's hard, you damn right, it's hard because everybody's gunning
Speaker 2: for you. Yeah, one slip up now it's I think
Speaker 2: it's easier to to to to repeat in series sports
Speaker 2: than in football because seeing football, every game, every playoff
Speaker 2: game is a game seven.
Speaker 3: You don't have to be the best team that you
Speaker 3: just said you have seen that day. That's it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, see the number the time. The best team will
Speaker 2: normally in a series the best. It's hard to hit
Speaker 2: for a gun. Get buzzle beating right right, Hey, all
Speaker 2: I gotta do a Oh, Joe, I forced a fumble
Speaker 2: a kick the walk off game within the field goal.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 2: It is my season over. Yeah, I agree, but I
Speaker 2: know them to be guns. They better start firing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Tatum and Brown, they better start playing better. Listen, all
Speaker 2: you got.
Speaker 1: All they got to do is stop shooting threes. Hey, Joe,
Speaker 1: you just said it. They got a bag, they got
Speaker 1: tools in the box. Get to your spot, get to
Speaker 1: the hole. Look, use your MIDI put the ball on
Speaker 1: the floor, create space, call for the iol do shothing
Speaker 1: just or.
Speaker 3: Just watch the film of the two games.
Speaker 2: It's been a tail of two halves, man, Like, you've
Speaker 2: been up twenty in both games, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: in the third quarter, not the first half, because you
Speaker 2: know the first half you kind of throw that away, Joe,
Speaker 2: cause you know, because with that three ball, anything could happen.
Speaker 2: But you've been up by twenty in the second half. Yeah,
Speaker 2: midway through the third quarter and they walk you down. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the past two games. I don't know how you let
Speaker 2: that happen, man, especially after the first one. You know,
Speaker 2: you think you'll be prepared, but they look shell shocked
Speaker 2: down the stretch.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: They looked like they didn't know what to do or
Speaker 2: how to do it or get to their spots. Like
Speaker 2: it was a lot of indecisiveness that I wasn't used
Speaker 2: to seeing from the Celtics. So I expect them to
Speaker 2: watch the film and then get back to the drawing board.
Speaker 2: As far as you know, game three, I expect for
Speaker 2: them to be a totally different team. Meaning I'm not
Speaker 2: saying Tatum and Brown probably gonna shoot threes. They gonna
Speaker 2: shoot threes, but I expect for them to be attacking
Speaker 2: getting to that basket, putting the onus on the referees
Speaker 2: to make make.
Speaker 3: Plays called files.
Speaker 2: M Yeah, all season fans of bass, what did the
Speaker 2: Knicks get for the five first round picks? They got
Speaker 2: Michael Bridges because think about it, they gave up all
Speaker 2: those picks for him, and that's I'm like, damn, you
Speaker 2: give up those kind of picks for a guy like
Speaker 2: a Luca, like a KD, like a Shade, a Yannis,
Speaker 2: a Yop. Michale Bridges. They had the game winning steel
Speaker 2: and then he had the game winning deflection, So.
Speaker 3: I guess that's what you got for.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is why you go get Michel Bridges og
Speaker 2: because you want them guys to pair and be able
Speaker 2: to guard and guard Tatum and Brown and take them
Speaker 2: to the break, which they these past two games getting
Speaker 2: those two guys and Josh Hart.
Speaker 3: You know, they all take turns by committee.
Speaker 2: Defensively, they're doing a pretty good job, man, and they
Speaker 2: put they they've left themselves in a in a chance
Speaker 2: to where, you know, laid down the stretch where.
Speaker 3: They're gonna win games like when it when it doesn't even.
Speaker 2: Look look that pretty like they haven't even played a great,
Speaker 2: great brand of basketball by play, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: They still win these other games on the road So
Speaker 2: it says a lot about the New York Knicks and
Speaker 2: coach Tom Thibodeau, you know, on the Skins that he's
Speaker 2: been able to, you know, oppose on the Celtics within
Speaker 2: these first couple of games.
Speaker 3: But as the Tills, I mean, you go back and
Speaker 3: look at when he coached the Bulls. They won ugly games.
Speaker 2: They're not a team that's gonna you know, esthetically everything
Speaker 2: is flowing and looks smooth and everything it looks chaotic,
Speaker 2: but they find a way to where they play tough, back,
Speaker 2: gritty basketball. And you're absolutely right. We need wing players.
Speaker 2: This is why they got mckal bridges. We need somebody
Speaker 2: that could guard Tatum and Brown o g could guard
Speaker 2: and he got a big body. You can't run through it.
Speaker 2: Mchal bridget is long and lanky, got great wings. Fan Hey,
Speaker 2: he can deflect a lot of passes, he can can
Speaker 2: test a lot of shots. Now and they still have
Speaker 2: princess ature. They still got Josh Hart. So like you said,
Speaker 2: at most times, they got three guys that can defend
Speaker 2: at a very very high level.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yes, and now you got Brunston. You got a guy
Speaker 2: like Brunson who's clutch. Last five minutes of the ball game.
Speaker 2: Game within five points. Hey, I'm putting the ball in
Speaker 2: his head.
Speaker 3: It's hard to find somebody better than Josh Hart than
Speaker 3: excuse me than.
Speaker 2: Yea.
Speaker 3: It is in a clutch situation. It is.
Speaker 2: He's shown shown improving, you know over the years, man
Speaker 2: laden games.
Speaker 3: He can get to the cups. See he gonna get
Speaker 3: you a fire little bucket every time. Yeah, one of
Speaker 3: the It's something about them left it though, Joe.
Speaker 2: Why the more folks so crafty James hardness like that,
Speaker 2: he's like that.
Speaker 3: All the left handed man down r Marlu Jobli jerk.
Speaker 3: He has ain't Jaylen Brown left handed? Nah? Who nah?
Speaker 2: Jay? No, he should never put the ball in his
Speaker 2: left hand. No, absolutely not. He should not trouble love it.
Speaker 2: I agree on them lefties. I told you all like
Speaker 2: they got an advantage from jumps. I don't know what
Speaker 2: it is, but he is so crafty and he turned
Speaker 2: into the he turned into the biggest five men I
Speaker 2: ever seen in life. When he's getting the paint and
Speaker 2: he go to pivot in and yeah it jump hooking
Speaker 2: up like man. But uh, he he has been the
Speaker 2: hardened their heart and soul. Bro.
Speaker 3: They team you know, for for for the past couple
Speaker 3: of years, and he will not let them lose. Nope.
Speaker 2: Ad man effort was called out by his head coach
Speaker 2: last night. Speaking to reporters, falling to the feet, Chris
Speaker 2: Finch said, it starts with ant. I thought he struggled
Speaker 2: and you can just take kind of see the light
Speaker 2: go out a little bit for a while. But then
Speaker 2: Fincher expanded on his thoughts, adding, what is there to
Speaker 2: talk about. You're the leader of the team. You got
Speaker 2: to come in and set the tone. If your SHOT's
Speaker 2: not going in, you still have to carry that energy.
Speaker 2: If I got to talk, if I've got to talk
Speaker 2: about guys having the right energy coming in the over
Speaker 2: the second round, we're not on the same page. And
Speaker 2: Man re sparted saying people are going to try to
Speaker 2: blame whatever, blame whoever. They can blame me, but we
Speaker 2: just didn't play good enough.
Speaker 3: I like that. I like that.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, who's like that? You gotta set the table,
Speaker 2: you gotta come I mean that. What was he like
Speaker 2: O for at one point in time? And Man was like,
Speaker 2: oh for nine Yeah, m hm, you can't.
Speaker 3: You can't.
Speaker 2: He can't be that way right now because he he
Speaker 2: he ain't look he called out. He said he wanted
Speaker 2: to smoke. He yeah, you want that the Warriors out.
Speaker 2: He said he wanted to play against the Warriors because
Speaker 2: Drakemond talked trash.
Speaker 3: Well, you know what, you you gotta step to the table.
Speaker 3: You gotta come out with that. Send some urgency.
Speaker 2: Bro. Let them dudes know that you're here. You know
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like, you gotta come out force if
Speaker 2: you have to force it to start out. But you
Speaker 2: got to put your market step on the game. And
Speaker 2: it took him, It took him too long to kind
Speaker 2: of get going. And hey, man, Golden, stay tough, broy.
Speaker 2: They remind me a little bit of the Knicks as
Speaker 2: far as defensively, how they switch, keep the guys in
Speaker 2: front and make you take tough shots. I know they're
Speaker 2: a little small down there, but listen, Drake Man and
Speaker 2: Drakemond and in them.
Speaker 3: Dudes down Butler, Butler, they fighting, Bro, they fighting. And
Speaker 3: they even got Buddy He'll think he could play defense man.
Speaker 3: But hey, buddy, Buddy, feeling is the game seven?
Speaker 2: Nay?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Hey they got Buddy. Hey, buddy fitting in the
Speaker 3: chair your game, you know, and you know that stuff.
Speaker 2: Rub about man, when you got them hard, they rubbed
Speaker 2: boutf on you in in a way you probably even
Speaker 2: know that you know you could do.
Speaker 3: But I'm worried about the Warriors because of because of
Speaker 3: step Steph.
Speaker 2: Even if he do come back, okay, oh Joe with
Speaker 2: a half string injury, y'all him, you know, it takes
Speaker 2: time to that.
Speaker 1: Thing for a minute and running mm hmmm what his
Speaker 1: game is predicated on? Yeah, you see, you see how
Speaker 1: I told you exactly what it was. I told you
Speaker 1: was a grade boy, It was a grade one actually,
Speaker 1: And I said, he gonna miss it, miss a week,
Speaker 1: maybe two.
Speaker 3: He's gonna miss this one.
Speaker 1: But I think, and and especially with what coach saying,
Speaker 1: you know, every coach can't come out and talk about
Speaker 1: your player like that. Every coach can't come out and
Speaker 1: say something like that because some of them don't respond
Speaker 1: to criticism that way very well. And is a is
Speaker 1: a perfect example of a player that can take that.
Speaker 1: Not only can he take that, Watch how you answer
Speaker 1: to it, Watch how you answer. Don't ask us down.
Speaker 3: He gonna answer to it.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: Listen. The cream always rides to the top, always, And
Speaker 3: that's the way.
Speaker 1: That's the way for a coach to say something and
Speaker 1: get his player not only motivated, not that he needs it,
Speaker 1: but just to keep just through, just remind him not
Speaker 1: everything starting stops with you.
Speaker 3: You said you want that smoke.
Speaker 1: This comes with it, include me, include me being able
Speaker 1: to chastise you publicly to let you know, come on now.
Speaker 2: Normally, Oh Joe, the coach wouldn't call out the best player.
Speaker 2: He would call out Bobby. Bobby Mitchell used to say,
Speaker 2: uh uh, Paul Brown used to get on him to
Speaker 2: get Jim's attention.
Speaker 3: So, but you got to do a better job of
Speaker 3: holding on to the ball, well, coach out in fumble.
Speaker 2: Jim did, But he called me about But he's talking
Speaker 2: to Jim because he couldn't talk to He couldn't say
Speaker 2: say what he wanted to say. That's how That's how
Speaker 2: Mike was with me. Mike was like, you got to
Speaker 2: do a better job at this. I wasn't one to
Speaker 2: miss the block.
Speaker 3: I get it. I get it. Well, he called it out, Shannon,
Speaker 3: you know he gonna call out yet. I get it. Okay,
Speaker 3: I eat it. That's old me. That's old me.
Speaker 2: But your best player, when you ask for something, what
Speaker 2: you grab I tell you what, Joe, don't ask for something.
Speaker 3: You ain't gonna be bother spend all my money for
Speaker 3: that toy. You better play with that Toyah, don't ask
Speaker 3: for that. Don't ask for nothing else.
Speaker 2: Thank you, don't you don't you ask me as long
Speaker 2: as you damn you know I'm only six, right, Oh, Joe?
Speaker 3: Done for long? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Hey, but when it comes to professional when it comes
Speaker 1: to professional athletes, you understand how sensitive players are in
Speaker 1: this era. But man, it's one of the few and
Speaker 1: it's only a handful on where your coach can come out,
Speaker 1: come out and say that the things he said, because
Speaker 1: he knows. I know my player, I know how he is.
Speaker 1: I know how he's gonna respond to this. He's not
Speaker 1: gonna shut down. Most players they shut down. They shut
Speaker 1: down when he is something like, nah, I mean.
Speaker 2: You, I mean, Joe, you know this I mean And
Speaker 2: I tell people don't want to hear I say, the
Speaker 2: greater the player, the bigger the ego, the greater listen
Speaker 2: to me, The greater the player, the greater the ego.
Speaker 3: And you have to walk that balance.
Speaker 2: And you know the way you talk to somebody else,
Speaker 2: I mean, oh you could no, no, you ain't talking
Speaker 2: to Jordan like you talking to the twelve gallons. No,
Speaker 2: you're not cursing at him, You're not raising your voice
Speaker 2: at him. You're like, come on, Mike, come on now,
Speaker 2: we gotta we gotta have that. But that's what you're
Speaker 2: telling him. But you telling, but you're telling what you're
Speaker 2: telling the BJ damn right right right right? I totally
Speaker 2: But I think go ahead. But that's the really great coaches.
Speaker 2: They really understand what to say and who to say
Speaker 2: it to and how to say it. Yeah, because you
Speaker 2: can't coach everything, you treat them all fair. Coach Davids,
Speaker 2: my coach in college, say, he used to tell us
Speaker 2: all the time, I'm gonna treat you'll all fair, but.
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna treat you all the same, right right,
Speaker 3: I ain't. Look I pig you back what Ocho said.
Speaker 3: I think he's right.
Speaker 2: I think Ann is the kind of guy that coach
Speaker 2: he knew that he can kind of call out and
Speaker 2: run to like, you know, hey, you didn't ask for
Speaker 2: this smoke. Let's step up, let's step up to the right,
Speaker 2: like we're here now, and uh, I look forward to
Speaker 2: him having a much much better game too. Obviously, you know,
Speaker 2: I picked Timberwolves in this series, and I still think
Speaker 2: they got a chance. Man, So they got some work
Speaker 2: to do ahead of them, but I think they still
Speaker 2: got a great chance.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think the thing is like when Ed gets it going,
Speaker 2: not everybody else could relax and they stop making shots
Speaker 2: with Ad struggling, Like damn.
Speaker 3: They died in on them all. They ain't given Ay,
Speaker 3: he got loose in that second half.
Speaker 2: But for the most party, Jimmy Butler, Draymond them, all
Speaker 2: them dudes, Bro, they sitting down, Yeah or GP the
Speaker 2: second Yeah, yeah, he picking may Look, you know, he
Speaker 2: got that extended pressure on him. He picking him up
Speaker 2: full and hey, look like I always say, you want
Speaker 2: to just try the word god down, like like, you know,
Speaker 2: he's a special talent. We all know that, and we
Speaker 2: can't give him nothing easy. That's what the Warriors are saying.
Speaker 2: So we're gonna make everything tough. And he has no
Speaker 2: and understanding. So I'm sure you know he don't watch
Speaker 2: the tape, watch film, and he gonna get back game two.
Speaker 3: Oho, he gonna be a different antlement. Oh yeah,