WEBVTT - Peanut Butter Jelly Time

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<v Speaker 1>On this episode of This League, we get into how

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<v Speaker 1>Shaq found the worst time to possibly criticize Donovan Mitchell,

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<v Speaker 1>why taking a man's locker is the ultimate sign of disrespect.

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<v Speaker 1>I cracked Kyrie Irving's eyeg emoji code, folks. And we

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<v Speaker 1>also have a cool interview with Sam Smndiari and Andy Lou.

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<v Speaker 1>They're both Warriors insiders about the drama going into Golden State.

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<v Speaker 1>We also read some of my dms, so, without further ado,

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<v Speaker 1>I always thought Donovan Mitchell was smart, the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>guy who seems to think things through. You don't come

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<v Speaker 1>to Donovan Mitchell if you're looking for a hot take,

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<v Speaker 1>You just don't until fucking now, until right now. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Marty, what is required for a PB and

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<v Speaker 1>J sandwich?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, self explained it right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Bread, peanut butter, jelly even five year olds, No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's in a PB and J doesn't matter. The jelly

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter. If you have crunchy or creamy peanut butter,

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<v Speaker 1>chibata or wonderbread. Those are the three things. That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought the world knew that, but apparently not Donovan Mitchell.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait what are we talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently Donovan Mitchell just got on Twitter and sounded off

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<v Speaker 1>on what is the perfect ratio between peeb and jelly

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<v Speaker 1>on a PB and sandwich? Zero? This is what he says.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I did see this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, he said zero.

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<v Speaker 2>Percent peanut butter, one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Jelly, zero percent peanut butter.

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<v Speaker 2>That's whack.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen. I get some people don't like peanut butter, but

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<v Speaker 1>if that's you, you don't get an opinion on PB

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<v Speaker 1>and J talk. If you don't like peanut butter, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't get an opinion on said topic. No, Shot, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't like one third of the ingredients, So what are

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<v Speaker 1>we doing. That's like saying you like tacos, but you

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<v Speaker 1>don't like taco shells, Like that's not a taco, So

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<v Speaker 1>no Taco Tuesday for you. So, Spider, you just don't

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<v Speaker 1>like PEB and j That's just it. You can't have

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<v Speaker 1>just jelly. That's just the case. But right now it's

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<v Speaker 1>funny because he's posting all this, and this is right

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<v Speaker 1>now probably the least controversial Donovan Mitchell take out there,

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<v Speaker 1>because the Spider and Mitchell takes are flying around. Boy,

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<v Speaker 1>and my problem, I've been watching Donovan Mitchell a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>My problem is not the take, it's the timing of

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<v Speaker 1>the take. And boy, oh boy, was the timing of

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<v Speaker 1>this take bad. So this is what happened, Donovan Mitchell.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you watch the game?

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<v Speaker 3>I did?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, donovd Mitchell balling out twenty one points in the

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<v Speaker 1>first half alone. They're on a seven game win streak.

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<v Speaker 1>They're rolling right halftime check Chuck Kenny. Even fucking little

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<v Speaker 1>EJ came in with his little SHIV at the end,

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<v Speaker 1>and the TNT guys decided today is the day we

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna finally go after Donovan Mitchell.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that the point of superstardom where he can take

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<v Speaker 4>you there? Or he's still all star status?

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<v Speaker 3>He needs to be second or third option?

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<v Speaker 1>Really?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>See yeah here he has enough talent to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>But what holds him?

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<v Speaker 4>Because see, I'm I'm seeing what I'm seeing I will

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm seeing he's overpowering people what a superstar is?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>And then after the game, Shack decides that in the

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<v Speaker 1>postgame interview he's going to confess Donovan Mitchell about the

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<v Speaker 1>shit that he said earlier. First of all, let me

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<v Speaker 1>just say this, when someone tells you and they preface

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<v Speaker 1>what they're about to say by saying you're you're one

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<v Speaker 1>of my favorite players to watch. Something's coming. Yeah, you know, Donovan,

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<v Speaker 1>I love you, You're one of my favorite players to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just don't think you have it. Spiders shit

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<v Speaker 1>have been like what is this right now? We're on

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<v Speaker 1>a seven game win streak, I'm on a heater. You're

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<v Speaker 1>trashing me eight seconds after I win the game about

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<v Speaker 1>how I can never perform. Can I grab a gatorade

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<v Speaker 1>before you comfort.

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<v Speaker 5>Me or what?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? It was pretty tough luck.

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<v Speaker 1>It was cringe too. You saw that Donovan Mitchell and

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<v Speaker 1>Shack said, oh, Donovan, you're one of my favorite players.

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<v Speaker 1>You see on the video he's smiling like, oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the great says I'm gonna win. I'm one

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<v Speaker 1>of his favorite players, and then his smile erase is

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<v Speaker 1>like that, man, the timing is bad, But to me,

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<v Speaker 1>the take is not. This is exactly what I've been

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<v Speaker 1>saying for a year. Donovan Mitchell is not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be someone that you can rely on in high leverage moments.

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<v Speaker 1>The only thing that really matters in the NBA is

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs. The regular season is meaningless. It's cute, it's fun.

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<v Speaker 1>We all love watching it. It's exciting. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to assess someone's ceiling, it's the playoffs and only

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you agree with that, Marty, Oh sure, definitely. When

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<v Speaker 2>you talk about you know what all a player has

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<v Speaker 2>in him and everything that adds up, Yeah, it's the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it end all, be all, and so no matter

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<v Speaker 1>how good Donovan Mitchell is, because he's very good. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>he's one of my favorite players to watch. I also,

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<v Speaker 1>I too love Donovan Mitchell. He can score in bunches,

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<v Speaker 1>he's explosive, he's got skills, he's job dropping, all those

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<v Speaker 1>things we know are all those things. But when he

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<v Speaker 1>goes cold, oh my god, does he go cold for days.

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<v Speaker 1>He could go three four games at a time just bricks.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just disappear.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're like, he knows it too. What's colder? You

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<v Speaker 1>know that? That? Like, hey, let's say what's colder? Him

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<v Speaker 1>being cold, ice cold? That's Donovan Mitchell. That is Donovan Mitchell.

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<v Speaker 1>It is gross to watch. He is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>worst people to watch on a cold streak because he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't do anything else. It's not like he's Russell Westbrook

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<v Speaker 1>where he's like, oh wow, he got that rebound and

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<v Speaker 1>he blocks someone just stolen the ball. No, No, he's

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<v Speaker 1>legitimately doing nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, becomes a complete negative.

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<v Speaker 1>Completeleete liability. So no shot to Donovan Mitchell as a human.

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<v Speaker 1>I've interviewed him a few times. He's a great guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I would never speak to someone like that like Shaq

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<v Speaker 1>did Donovan Mitchell right after he goes off. That was

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<v Speaker 1>some gall Who is he capable? Is Donovan Mitchell capable

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<v Speaker 1>of doing more? No? I said maybe when I thought

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<v Speaker 1>of it to myself, But right now the answer is no.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem though, is that he's also on a team

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<v Speaker 1>of guys who also disappear. Rudy Gobert can go away

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<v Speaker 1>for stretches, Mike Conley can go away for stretches. So

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<v Speaker 1>you can't have three guys on a team that can

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<v Speaker 1>go away for stretches and actually be built for the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no way. That's why they got bounced out of

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<v Speaker 1>the first round last year, were they were up three

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<v Speaker 1>to one on Denver right and then.

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<v Speaker 2>Just just stopped.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, stopped. It was just like the true hur that

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<v Speaker 1>was that. So yeah, the thing that I think that

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<v Speaker 1>the haters or the trolls or whatever listeners. Fans Donovan

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<v Speaker 1>Mitchell fans will say, get it confused, This is not

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<v Speaker 1>This is not to say he's not good. Every player

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<v Speaker 1>in the NBA is good. He is elite. He is

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<v Speaker 1>an All Star, which means he is elite of the elite,

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<v Speaker 1>another echelon. What we're wondering is whether he could do

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<v Speaker 1>anything else besides score the basketball, put the ball in

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<v Speaker 1>the hoop to elevate his team. Statistically, we know because

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<v Speaker 1>Ernie said it in the in the halftime, which we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't play, but he said, Donovan, by the way, before

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<v Speaker 1>we go, Donovan Mitchell's only had one double digit rebounding

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<v Speaker 1>game in his entire career. So statistically we know Donovan

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<v Speaker 1>Mitchell cannot do that. That's a crazy staff and that's

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<v Speaker 1>what's necessary to win a championship. You asked Damian Lillard,

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<v Speaker 1>You ask Chris Paul, You ask Steph Curry. When they

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<v Speaker 1>go cold, they all try to do something else, facilitate, play,

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<v Speaker 1>make et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, really, step Steph will come out of nowhere and

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<v Speaker 2>have like a really good rebounding game every now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that is funny about his game.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes Steph will lead the team in rebounds when he's

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<v Speaker 1>ice cold. He did that, not that not too long ago.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to affect the game when the shots not falling,

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<v Speaker 1>or you're not gonna win in the playoffs. And the

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<v Speaker 1>truth is, when Spider is ice cold, he can't buy

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<v Speaker 1>is going on in the water in Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, what do you mean, like like Lake Erie catching

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<v Speaker 2>fire or something?

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<v Speaker 1>I know that's that's good choke though. What I mean

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<v Speaker 1>is there's something going on in the Cleveland Cavaliers' locker room.

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<v Speaker 1>Because there are two events, two confrontations that have happened

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<v Speaker 1>on one out of thirty teams, and both of those

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<v Speaker 1>incidents have ended in a food fight. No, excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>food assault actually, because a food fight really implies that

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<v Speaker 1>like everyone's doing it, that I throw at you, you

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<v Speaker 1>throw at me. No, this is one guy taking a

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<v Speaker 1>hot bowl of soup and it's like burn yourself. I

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<v Speaker 1>would say this is unusual, not only just the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that it's happening on this team or professional sports, but

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<v Speaker 1>it is unusual as a method of conflict resolution as

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<v Speaker 1>a whole. Have you ever seen anyone throw food?

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<v Speaker 2>Throw food? I feel like no. I may be able

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<v Speaker 2>to like deep dive and think of something, but my

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<v Speaker 2>initial answers.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I've never seen it. I've never personally done it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think my mom threw tomato juice at me one

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<v Speaker 1>time because I wouldn't return a library book. I was

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<v Speaker 1>like sixteen seventeen.

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<v Speaker 2>It was brutal reaction.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a big time overreaction. But we have a

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<v Speaker 1>pattern of food assaults now in the Cleveland Cavaliers locker room.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me explain the Calves, as most folks know, are

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<v Speaker 1>an irrelevant franchise history, speaking outside of when Lebron was there,

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<v Speaker 1>and there are things that the organization does that tells

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<v Speaker 1>you that things aren't exactly a well oiled machine. There.

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<v Speaker 1>I could go into many, but I won't bore you

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<v Speaker 1>with the details because there are a lot. But they're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to turn a new leaf. You know, they still

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<v Speaker 1>the problem is that they still have when you turn

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<v Speaker 1>a new leaf, you still have vestiges of that old

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<v Speaker 1>mentality and that old way of thinking they hang around.

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<v Speaker 1>There are guys who are still hanging around who shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be there. Let me introduce you now in our plot

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<v Speaker 1>to Kevin Porter Junior, the protagonist of this Greek food tragedy.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, So the Calves went all in on Kevin

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<v Speaker 1>Porter Junior in twenty nineteen. They paid a lot, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like to draft him, Marty. How much did they pay?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was more than people really remember. So they

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<v Speaker 2>traded up to thirty same spot Jimmy Butler was taken

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<v Speaker 2>just fyi, and they sent four second rounders and five

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<v Speaker 2>million cash to go snag him.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that's a guy that can't miss. Then,

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<v Speaker 1>when you pay that much for him.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, you'd like him to be on your

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<v Speaker 2>team longer than a year.

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<v Speaker 1>You would like that in reality, though we knew prior,

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<v Speaker 1>anyone who was deep diving knew that Kevin Porter Junior

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<v Speaker 1>was a risk. He had more red flags than John

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<v Speaker 1>Wall's bandana drawer. And that's a blood joke, Marty. I

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<v Speaker 1>got it, I got it, so many question marks heading

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<v Speaker 1>into the draft. He got suspended for personal conduct reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>He's I mean, he's a top ten talent, they said,

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<v Speaker 1>but you knew that it was a flyer, and a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch teams passed on him. When when James Dolan of

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<v Speaker 1>the New York Knicks respectfully says, I pass That tells

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<v Speaker 1>you pretty much all you need to know about a player.

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<v Speaker 1>So enter Cleveland Cavalier. Kevin Porter Junior. Hasn't played many games,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't play really a lot last year, taking a pause

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<v Speaker 1>this year for some personal reasons. Hasn't been around the squad.

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<v Speaker 1>And then something interesting happened. They started winning games sex Land,

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<v Speaker 1>remember sex Land, and Andre Drummond is balling out, and

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<v Speaker 1>they made a couple of trades. They got this guy,

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<v Speaker 1>Torrian Prince to come in and fill the shoes of

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<v Speaker 1>a wing god, cheered Allen. And that is when, right

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<v Speaker 1>at that moment, Kevin Porter Junior decided I would like

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<v Speaker 1>to come back to the team too. The problem is

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<v Speaker 1>those guys, those new players, they needed a place, like

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<v Speaker 1>all players do, to store their belongings. That place just

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<v Speaker 1>happened to be where Kevin Porter Junior was storing his

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<v Speaker 1>And that wasn't anyone's fault, really, It was JB. Bickerstaff saying, Yo,

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<v Speaker 1>take this locker. This guy's not using it. This is

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<v Speaker 1>your locker now. I don't know who moved his stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone did, and then Kevin Porter Junior returned back to

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<v Speaker 1>the team and was like, Yo, where's my stuff? Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been moved. This this is now Torrian Prince's locker.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone else's dirty draws and stinky sneakers was in his locker,

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<v Speaker 1>and he had a normal, logical adult reaction. He lost

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<v Speaker 1>his goddamn mind on Torrian Prince, this innocent bystander, trying

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<v Speaker 1>to fit in with this new teammates, just doing what

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<v Speaker 1>the coaches says, and all of a sudden, his new team,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, just been there a few days, there's already

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<v Speaker 1>a physical altercation popping off. You think he saw Kevin

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<v Speaker 1>Porter Junior's stuff and is in the locker and he's

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<v Speaker 1>like this is my locker now punk? No, like come

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<v Speaker 1>on now, it was done by the organization. But Kevin

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<v Speaker 1>Porter Jr. He took that shit really personal, like very personal.

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<v Speaker 1>His locker was jacked and is it fair that he

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<v Speaker 1>lost his mind again? The TNT boy sounded off on that.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently it's a big deal.

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<v Speaker 3>That's that's respectful.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean do that. I don't care if you're a

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<v Speaker 4>first man twelve man, you can't move my locker it

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<v Speaker 4>out without calling me and be like, hey, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>move your stuff and move.

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<v Speaker 3>It from one area.

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<v Speaker 4>Then, first of all, there's personal things in there.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's start there.

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<v Speaker 4>Second, like that is the ultimate sign. There's three things.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the signs of respect for players.

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<v Speaker 3>Their area, you know, it is the area, their uniform number.

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<v Speaker 4>Like all of a sudden you come in like, oh

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<v Speaker 4>we gave you a number. The shock because we said,

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<v Speaker 4>well whoa wait, like that would be disrespectful.

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<v Speaker 1>So that I would say, those guys know best, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're touching someone's belongings, they're underwear, they're weed, they're steroids.

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows. The one thing that we know for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that dere Ayton show.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes it is OK. No one wants other people's paws

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<v Speaker 1>on their stuff. Calves came in and were like, you're

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<v Speaker 1>over there now, Kevin, and Kevin was like food. You

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<v Speaker 1>see this PEB and J sixty percent peanut butter, forty

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<v Speaker 1>percent jelly, Like duck, this thing's coming your way fast.

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<v Speaker 1>At least it wasn't. It was just a world class tantrum.

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<v Speaker 1>Just compare and apparently there were some words exchanged to

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<v Speaker 1>words that JB. Bickerstaff. I'm not sure if you saw this,

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<v Speaker 1>but JB. Bickerstaff said that in all of his time

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<v Speaker 1>the head coach, in all of his time in the NBA,

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<v Speaker 1>he's never heard these words before. Huh. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what those words could be, but he's been around the

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<v Speaker 1>league in locker rooms for over twenty years.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, that had to be impressively offensive language.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep. You had to be saying some slurs and some

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<v Speaker 1>curse words in a combination. That was creative. But the

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<v Speaker 1>wildest thing is that this isn't even the first time

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<v Speaker 1>that it's happened. You had food assault where there was

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who took his hot tortilla soup. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a real story. Hot tortilla soup first bowl out of

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<v Speaker 1>the pot and he tossed it on his assistant coach,

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<v Speaker 1>scalded him, didn't speak for months. Marty hit the audio, but.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to know, Okay, did he throw the soup

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<v Speaker 3>at you?

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<v Speaker 6>Or did he throw the bowl along with the soup

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<v Speaker 6>at you?

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<v Speaker 3>Like, did he like pour the soup on you? Did

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<v Speaker 3>he launch the bowl? Well?

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<v Speaker 5>For a long time, I refused to talk about the

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<v Speaker 5>soup incident.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a safe space.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, it's okay now because I've moved on.

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<v Speaker 3>Me and j R.

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<v Speaker 5>We talked about it, and you know, he apologized. But

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<v Speaker 5>it was the bowl plus the super the bowl and

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<v Speaker 5>the soup, and it was the first bowl out of

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<v Speaker 5>the pot.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was hot. Oh no, yes, oh no, very hot.

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<v Speaker 5>How where did it get? You get the chest? He seated,

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<v Speaker 5>went everywhere? No, I was standing up, Oh you're standing up,

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<v Speaker 5>standing up? And it hit me and shoulder, arm, everywhere,

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<v Speaker 5>It hit the wall, and I mean it was a mess.

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<v Speaker 2>Left hand right.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. I remember that story like it was yesterday, and

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<v Speaker 1>it still tickles me. It's it's very sad someone would

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<v Speaker 1>rise to that level. But just soup.

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<v Speaker 2>It's easy to forget about. Like and like, I love JR.

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<v Speaker 2>And for some reason, I had just like erased this

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<v Speaker 2>completely from my mind.

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<v Speaker 3>But one of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Weirder stories like of the last decade maybe like just

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of just bizarre NBA.

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<v Speaker 1>Stories, one hundred percent. And now you have Kevin Porter

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<v Speaker 1>Junior doing the same exact thing. I don't think it

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<v Speaker 1>was soup, but man, that experiment ended fast and it

0:22:26.520 --> 0:22:31.719
<v Speaker 1>was expensive. Fifty games he played for the team, and

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<v Speaker 1>food assault comes into play, and now the Calves are

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<v Speaker 1>just struggling to find anyone who's willing to take him.

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<v Speaker 1>Like imagine Marty, like, I call you up, You're the

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<v Speaker 1>we'll call you the Suns GM okay, and I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>ring ring ring ring, Oh good morning, Marty, and you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you say?

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<v Speaker 6>Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>How we doing Trista? What do you need?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, hey, we've got a great a tremendous wing for you.

0:23:00.520 --> 0:23:03.720
<v Speaker 1>Came from USC tremendous talent. We just have some a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of depth on our team right now, so we

0:23:06.119 --> 0:23:10.840
<v Speaker 1>need to get rid of some pieces. Great kid, really

0:23:10.880 --> 0:23:12.840
<v Speaker 1>great arm Kevin Porter Junior.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh right, yeah no, we were high on him in

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<v Speaker 2>the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, what would you guys be willing to

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<v Speaker 1>trade for him?

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<v Speaker 2>I'll throw in uh, I'll throw in Abdel and Madare Yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Then it's like click. So he ends up getting traded

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<v Speaker 1>for this like top fifty five protected pick, which means

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<v Speaker 1>that probably won't get anything for him. And you know

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<v Speaker 1>where he ends up. Of course, he ends up in

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<v Speaker 1>Houston slum lord Tillman for Titta's like, I'll take them,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll take them for free. Yeah it's trash. I'll take

0:23:52.880 --> 0:23:55.959
<v Speaker 1>that free couch off the side of the road. I

0:23:56.000 --> 0:23:58.440
<v Speaker 1>have a room it can fit in. Yeah, I'll take

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<v Speaker 1>that gamble. So Marty, yes, here we are again being

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<v Speaker 1>the NETS podcast that we are. We need to go

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<v Speaker 1>into detail that Kyrie Irving is using Instagram to send

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<v Speaker 1>messages and symbols to the world. Again, please tell me

0:24:13.440 --> 0:24:14.240
<v Speaker 1>what he just posted.

0:24:14.359 --> 0:24:16.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you have forced me to finally follow him as well.

0:24:16.600 --> 0:24:21.879
<v Speaker 2>So okay, it's just a picture posts with texts, and

0:24:21.920 --> 0:24:25.080
<v Speaker 2>the text says we will be on that stage, the

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<v Speaker 2>stage where the best of the best meet, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the main stage where those who can do and those

0:24:30.840 --> 0:24:34.119
<v Speaker 2>who cannot talk about those that are doing. If you're

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<v Speaker 2>rolling with us, great, let's rock. If you're not, you

0:24:37.520 --> 0:24:39.720
<v Speaker 2>know you want to talk about our greatness anyway with

0:24:39.760 --> 0:24:43.400
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of exclamation points. And then there's some emojis too,

0:24:43.520 --> 0:24:47.760
<v Speaker 2>right do you start fist airy symbol, leo symbol and

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<v Speaker 2>then the shrug.

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<v Speaker 1>So what I think is funny is not really the caption.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get into the caption, which is basically basically like

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<v Speaker 1>when I get t so much on Twitter that I

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<v Speaker 1>say a tweet like, oh, it must be sad to

0:25:05.200 --> 0:25:09.520
<v Speaker 1>be an Internet troll. That's basically what Kyrie Irving he's doing.

0:25:09.800 --> 0:25:13.120
<v Speaker 1>He's like, he's basically like, Oh, you're gonna be talking

0:25:13.119 --> 0:25:16.119
<v Speaker 1>about our greatness anyway, We're gonna be on this stage.

0:25:16.119 --> 0:25:19.120
<v Speaker 1>If you don't see it now, then you know whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like you've been, you've been got The chatter

0:25:22.880 --> 0:25:26.119
<v Speaker 1>is getting to Kyrie Irving. But the funniest thing to

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<v Speaker 1>me was was the astrological symbols, because Kyrie, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>put astrology in your caption, your own symbol the aries.

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<v Speaker 1>Kyrie Irving is an arees unless you're a big fan

0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:46.040
<v Speaker 1>and you buy in to your astrological your zodiac sign.

0:25:47.920 --> 0:25:51.400
<v Speaker 1>He places so much value that he puts his sign

0:25:51.480 --> 0:25:55.320
<v Speaker 1>in his ig posts. People who are about that life,

0:25:55.359 --> 0:25:58.120
<v Speaker 1>they know their sign. They're fucking annoying people. By the way,

0:25:58.160 --> 0:26:02.440
<v Speaker 1>those people, they're like, oh, yes, right now, my star

0:26:02.600 --> 0:26:06.320
<v Speaker 1>is rising and means that I'm in for greatness is

0:26:06.320 --> 0:26:07.119
<v Speaker 1>coming my way.

0:26:07.440 --> 0:26:09.840
<v Speaker 2>The fact that Kyrie Irving thinks the stars and planets

0:26:09.840 --> 0:26:12.040
<v Speaker 2>affect his life is like the least surprising thing ever.

0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:16.800
<v Speaker 1>Exactly, but he believes these things to be true. So

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<v Speaker 1>I looked into his zodiac. I sent you the descriptors

0:26:22.200 --> 0:26:26.080
<v Speaker 1>of a typical Aries, and I think you just might

0:26:26.160 --> 0:26:28.680
<v Speaker 1>be a zodiac believer after you read these two.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, we've got Aries are the leaders of

0:26:32.480 --> 0:26:36.600
<v Speaker 2>the pack, first in line to get things going, weaknesses,

0:26:36.760 --> 0:26:45.200
<v Speaker 2>lack of patience, mood alterations, predisposition for quick loss of temper, impulsiveness, aggressiveness,

0:26:45.600 --> 0:26:48.119
<v Speaker 2>and Ares will always tell you what they're thinking with

0:26:48.200 --> 0:26:52.880
<v Speaker 2>a frankness that may occasionally border on rudeness. Rams may

0:26:52.920 --> 0:26:56.320
<v Speaker 2>also have a short fuse when an Aries is angry.

0:26:56.440 --> 0:26:59.240
<v Speaker 2>They'll never play the passive aggressive card. But for people

0:26:59.280 --> 0:27:02.160
<v Speaker 2>who don't know that well, their temper can be a turnoff.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you a believer now.

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<v Speaker 3>A little bit?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the needle is moved a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Aries believe that they are number one, and they are

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<v Speaker 1>the leader of the pack. They believe that it is

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<v Speaker 1>their birthright to be in that top of the hierarchy.

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<v Speaker 1>The celestial moons and the stars they have aligned when

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<v Speaker 1>they were born for that to be them. And now

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<v Speaker 1>what do we have. We have Kyrie Irving playing third

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<v Speaker 1>fiddle when he knows in his heart of hearts, because

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<v Speaker 1>the stars made it true, he is a leader of men.

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<v Speaker 1>He should be in charge. This is only a matter

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<v Speaker 1>of time before he self destructs, before this whole thing dissipates.

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<v Speaker 1>He's already not speaking to Nash. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>you saw it, but when he hit that game winner,

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<v Speaker 1>all of his teammates are around him. A didn't see

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<v Speaker 1>Nash anywhere nearby. No, not even in the frame, folks.

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<v Speaker 1>Tensions are high. So the side note is that, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>of course KD responded to the post right, he's like

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<v Speaker 1>go off king, meaning that their lover's quarrel has now

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<v Speaker 1>been diffused. But Andre Drummond, the center for the Cleveland Cavaliers,

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<v Speaker 1>also responded big facts fire emoji, emoji emoji. The team

0:28:30.200 --> 0:28:34.800
<v Speaker 1>that just smoked the nets twice is saying facts to

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<v Speaker 1>a post that Kyrie Irving made about them being in

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<v Speaker 1>the final stage at the end where only the greats

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<v Speaker 1>are there, and Andre is like, I agree, I agree,

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<v Speaker 1>you will be there. Maybe we will be there. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, huh, that's interesting because the Nets have been

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<v Speaker 1>looking for a big man, and I heard that the

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<v Speaker 1>Cavs were shopping Andre Drummond. And there again was another

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<v Speaker 1>emoji in that post that we hadn't deciphered. We know

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<v Speaker 1>what the star of David is, we know what the

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<v Speaker 1>fist is, we know what the ares is. But who's

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<v Speaker 1>the Leo? Leo's another astrological sign, Marty and I looked

0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:26.560
<v Speaker 1>up Okay, all right, let me look up Kd's birthday. Nope, Libra,

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<v Speaker 1>let me look up James Harden's one. Something else. Let

0:29:30.960 --> 0:29:34.920
<v Speaker 1>me look up Sean Marks's zodiac symbol. Something else. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>who the hell is a Leo? You know who is

0:29:38.480 --> 0:29:47.920
<v Speaker 1>a Leo? Andre fucking Drummond, Man, I cracked the Kyrie

0:29:48.040 --> 0:29:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Da Vinci code. I'm gonna say it here first. The

0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:55.480
<v Speaker 1>fucking stars literally are aligned Drummond to the Nets. So

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<v Speaker 1>in the last episode, if you caught it, we talked

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of time about the Golden State Warriors and

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<v Speaker 1>the problems that are coming around the Bend with Draymond

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<v Speaker 1>Green and the big Man, James Wiseman number two overall

0:30:07.360 --> 0:30:14.200
<v Speaker 1>draft pick. You know Draymond famously cussed out Kevin Durant superstar.

0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:16.920
<v Speaker 1>You think he's worrying about James Wiseman's feelings. I do not.

0:30:17.960 --> 0:30:22.800
<v Speaker 1>A week ago, we saw Draymond feverishly we'll call it

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<v Speaker 1>passionately coaching up James Wiseman after he turned the ball

0:30:28.480 --> 0:30:32.520
<v Speaker 1>over against the Lakers, and that became to me a

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<v Speaker 1>sign of more to come. Draymond obviously had thoughts in

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<v Speaker 1>the post game, and he said, you know what, I'm

0:30:37.960 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 1>gonna try to make him better, and next time this happens,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do it again. I'm gonna continue to be

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<v Speaker 1>on his ass. And you know what, right after we

0:30:48.840 --> 0:30:53.000
<v Speaker 1>filmed that night, last episode, he did it again. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you see him?

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<v Speaker 3>I did.

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<v Speaker 1>He got ejected because he was cussing his own tea.

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<v Speaker 1>He made out something so explosive that the refs had

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<v Speaker 1>to get him out of the game. They thought he

0:31:08.920 --> 0:31:12.120
<v Speaker 1>was talking to them, or maybe they were just appalled.

0:31:12.160 --> 0:31:16.720
<v Speaker 1>Maybe he was working off the Kevin Porter junior slur list.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I'm not sure what it could have

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<v Speaker 1>been but man, the league came out and they said, yep,

0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:25.520
<v Speaker 1>we made a mistake. Draymond wasn't yelling at the refs.

0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:28.880
<v Speaker 1>He in fact was yelling at his own teammate, James Wiseman.

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<v Speaker 1>And I tell you what me, I'm concerned still. So

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<v Speaker 1>I hit up some guys that cover the Warriors and

0:31:38.680 --> 0:31:42.360
<v Speaker 1>have been covering the Warriors for like ten years, and

0:31:42.400 --> 0:31:44.560
<v Speaker 1>I put the heat on these boys from the Bay.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna find out what's going on with Draymond Green,

0:31:48.160 --> 0:31:51.160
<v Speaker 1>what's going on with James Wiseman, what is happening with

0:31:51.280 --> 0:31:56.800
<v Speaker 1>the entire Warriors' team. There's a lot of suspicious things

0:31:56.840 --> 0:32:00.720
<v Speaker 1>going on with Steve Kerr and these lineups. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>bring on Sam Esfandiari and Andy Lou. We've got Sam

0:32:05.480 --> 0:32:10.120
<v Speaker 1>Esfandieri and Andy Lou, the two members, the two hosts

0:32:10.120 --> 0:32:14.520
<v Speaker 1>of the light Years podcast and the facto experts on

0:32:14.680 --> 0:32:17.680
<v Speaker 1>everything with us. His video, Andy, you're just blowing off

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<v Speaker 1>steam fans.

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<v Speaker 3>It's nicotine, it's nicotine. We're good.

0:32:22.000 --> 0:32:26.880
<v Speaker 1>It's all good. It's all goods, it's all good, two

0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:31.080
<v Speaker 1>hosts of the light Years podcast. So I've got things

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<v Speaker 1>to ask, I've got things to say, I've got things

0:32:34.240 --> 0:32:37.400
<v Speaker 1>to ask I about thoughts, But we're just going to

0:32:37.480 --> 0:32:41.520
<v Speaker 1>start off with softball eight and eight five hundred. How

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<v Speaker 1>are you feeling?

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<v Speaker 6>M Like, like, honestly, we're about to record our own

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<v Speaker 6>pod after after this, and it's just just a lot

0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:55.800
<v Speaker 6>of frustration with the coaching more than anything.

0:32:56.640 --> 0:32:59.960
<v Speaker 7>Literally a week ago, Steph Curry hits a behind the

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<v Speaker 7>he pulls a shot over Anthony Davis. They win the game. Honestly,

0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:05.040
<v Speaker 7>it was pretty lucky. The Lakers looked like they kind

0:33:05.040 --> 0:33:07.680
<v Speaker 7>of gave up in the third quarter, but Warriors fans like, all.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, this is gonna be good.

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<v Speaker 7>Then they beat down the Spurs like, okay, now we're

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<v Speaker 7>gonna get on a run.

0:33:12.120 --> 0:33:13.600
<v Speaker 3>Here, look like they're turning a corner.

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<v Speaker 7>And then and then the bottom falls out because Steve Kerr.

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<v Speaker 7>I think Warriors fans are ready to get Steve Kerr fired.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Yeah, yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 7>Think for a large audience, I think they'll enjoy that one.

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<v Speaker 7>Steve Kerr is probably one of the most stubborn coaches

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<v Speaker 7>in uh I was gonna say in sports, but at

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<v Speaker 7>least in the NBA, he's got to be the most

0:33:31.920 --> 0:33:34.480
<v Speaker 7>stubborn coach. He's playing just one of the worst starting

0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:36.720
<v Speaker 7>lineups in the league, and he doesn't seem to want

0:33:36.720 --> 0:33:38.680
<v Speaker 7>to stay away from that because I don't know. I

0:33:38.720 --> 0:33:39.680
<v Speaker 7>don't know why it is.

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<v Speaker 6>Statistically the worst starting lineup, the worst I like a

0:33:42.600 --> 0:33:45.080
<v Speaker 6>substantial margin. It's one of those things where it's like

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<v Speaker 6>if you saw a Saturday Nights game against each other,

0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:52.200
<v Speaker 6>they're just they were down twenty points with you know,

0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:53.400
<v Speaker 6>three minutes off the clock.

0:33:53.400 --> 0:33:55.200
<v Speaker 3>All of a sudden, it's like twenty.

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<v Speaker 6>Two to five were at the eight minute mark in

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<v Speaker 6>the first quarter, and it's like, what are we even

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<v Speaker 6>doing now?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that game was over pretty much right as it started.

0:34:03.640 --> 0:34:08.680
<v Speaker 1>I think I had Warriors minus or Warriors plus six

0:34:09.520 --> 0:34:10.400
<v Speaker 1>plus seven.

0:34:10.200 --> 0:34:12.560
<v Speaker 3>Like you tell us the better team. I'm not.

0:34:12.560 --> 0:34:14.799
<v Speaker 6>I'm not like pretending they're not. But it's like the

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<v Speaker 6>way in which the Warriors lose some of these games.

0:34:17.239 --> 0:34:21.160
<v Speaker 6>It's just like, you know, like they play a competitive

0:34:21.160 --> 0:34:23.680
<v Speaker 6>game and then you know, Utah pulls away because they're

0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:24.479
<v Speaker 6>just a better team.

0:34:24.680 --> 0:34:28.160
<v Speaker 3>It happens, right, but it's like just not showing up

0:34:28.280 --> 0:34:30.279
<v Speaker 3>is just infuriating. It looked like like.

0:34:30.239 --> 0:34:32.839
<v Speaker 6>That opening Night game, like everyone saw that against the Nets,

0:34:32.800 --> 0:34:34.399
<v Speaker 6>are like, the Warrior is gonna be the worst team

0:34:34.400 --> 0:34:35.239
<v Speaker 6>in the league again, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, like that, I thought, that's what I thought. Who's

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<v Speaker 1>in the starting lineup? You think should be out?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh, that's that's Kelly Oubra for me, because I think

0:34:44.160 --> 0:34:46.480
<v Speaker 7>I think, you know, maybe it should be James Wiseman.

0:34:46.840 --> 0:34:49.480
<v Speaker 7>James Wison probably shouldn't even be playing basketball right now

0:34:49.520 --> 0:34:51.200
<v Speaker 7>for a team that wants to be in the postseason

0:34:51.800 --> 0:34:54.600
<v Speaker 7>like that, that's probably like something that that shouldn't happen.

0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:55.520
<v Speaker 3>But they have no.

0:34:55.560 --> 0:34:57.320
<v Speaker 7>Choice, right They're like, Hey, we don't have any size.

0:34:58.160 --> 0:35:00.120
<v Speaker 7>We want to develop this guy. He's nineteen years Oh

0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:02.440
<v Speaker 7>he's going to be our starting center for however much longer,

0:35:02.760 --> 0:35:04.520
<v Speaker 7>so they're going to keep him in there. I think

0:35:04.760 --> 0:35:07.200
<v Speaker 7>the guy that you can take out is got to

0:35:07.239 --> 0:35:10.359
<v Speaker 7>be Ubra, who who's fun. He's like, he's fun to watch.

0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:12.600
<v Speaker 7>He plays really hard, but he doesn't pass. He doesn't

0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:14.520
<v Speaker 7>really know what he's doing out there. And at least

0:35:14.600 --> 0:35:17.479
<v Speaker 7>he'd be a nice microwave score off the bench, which

0:35:17.520 --> 0:35:20.520
<v Speaker 7>is probably his best role. And just put Damian Lee,

0:35:20.560 --> 0:35:22.680
<v Speaker 7>who's a shooter in there in space the floor a

0:35:22.719 --> 0:35:25.000
<v Speaker 7>little bit. But I you know, they're paying eighty million

0:35:25.040 --> 0:35:27.440
<v Speaker 7>dollars in taxes for Kelly Oubres.

0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:28.959
<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure if they want to do that either.

0:35:29.320 --> 0:35:32.680
<v Speaker 1>It's brutal Kelly Kelly. I think I can fill Kevin

0:35:32.760 --> 0:35:36.240
<v Speaker 1>Durant shoes, Ubra shooting from the field twenty.

0:35:37.160 --> 0:35:37.879
<v Speaker 3>Up to thirty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, yeah, daddy, it's pretty good. It's pretty good, multiple

0:35:41.719 --> 0:35:47.200
<v Speaker 1>multiple games. So is this a team that wants to

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<v Speaker 1>go to the playoffs?

0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:49.600
<v Speaker 3>Well?

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<v Speaker 6>I think that's like the interesting thing because it's like

0:35:52.760 --> 0:35:57.600
<v Speaker 6>everything Steve Kerr says is like, we're building for the future.

0:35:58.040 --> 0:35:59.880
<v Speaker 6>You know, it kind of makes sense when you draft

0:35:59.880 --> 0:36:02.600
<v Speaker 6>in nineteen year old number two overall, but then you

0:36:02.600 --> 0:36:05.800
<v Speaker 6>have Steph Curry who's still in his prime and Draymond Green,

0:36:05.960 --> 0:36:09.160
<v Speaker 6>who is not a very patient man in his own right.

0:36:09.400 --> 0:36:13.239
<v Speaker 6>It's like it feels like mixed messages because like no

0:36:13.280 --> 0:36:16.320
<v Speaker 6>one thinks they're a contender with you know, Klay Thompson

0:36:16.360 --> 0:36:20.280
<v Speaker 6>goes down before the season start. That kind of changes expectations.

0:36:20.840 --> 0:36:23.839
<v Speaker 6>But it's like it's a weird spot where like they're

0:36:23.840 --> 0:36:27.319
<v Speaker 6>not really tanking for the future, but they're also not

0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:30.840
<v Speaker 6>doing things to maximize the group which they have right now.

0:36:31.120 --> 0:36:35.800
<v Speaker 6>And I think That's what's really frustrating I Warrior fans. Like,

0:36:35.840 --> 0:36:38.840
<v Speaker 6>I'll speak for myself here, but it's like, just just

0:36:38.880 --> 0:36:40.719
<v Speaker 6>go for it with what you have, and then you know,

0:36:41.760 --> 0:36:43.799
<v Speaker 6>maybe you get to the second round, maybe you make

0:36:43.840 --> 0:36:45.720
<v Speaker 6>some noise, maybe that helps you in the free agency

0:36:45.719 --> 0:36:47.600
<v Speaker 6>and people are like, well, yeah, Steph Curry is still

0:36:47.600 --> 0:36:49.560
<v Speaker 6>one of the three or four best players in the league.

0:36:50.080 --> 0:36:52.120
<v Speaker 6>Maybe if I go to that team, I can help

0:36:52.160 --> 0:36:55.120
<v Speaker 6>push them back into that contention. Like if I was,

0:36:55.719 --> 0:36:57.520
<v Speaker 6>that's the way I would be looking at it, because like,

0:36:57.560 --> 0:37:01.239
<v Speaker 6>you still have Steph and his prime. You shouldn't just

0:37:01.360 --> 0:37:05.799
<v Speaker 6>be wasting what is this like five year plan you're doing.

0:37:05.840 --> 0:37:07.759
<v Speaker 6>He's thirty two years old, right, Like I mean, I know,

0:37:08.040 --> 0:37:10.000
<v Speaker 6>Tom Brady's going to the super Bowl and looks like

0:37:10.040 --> 0:37:12.960
<v Speaker 6>he's another twenty years in him, but like generally that

0:37:13.000 --> 0:37:16.720
<v Speaker 6>doesn't work out for athletes, Like you know, just because

0:37:16.800 --> 0:37:19.520
<v Speaker 6>Lebron looks like he's not slowing down at thirty six

0:37:19.600 --> 0:37:22.839
<v Speaker 6>does not mean Steph Curry has another eight years of

0:37:22.880 --> 0:37:23.800
<v Speaker 6>his prime left.

0:37:24.360 --> 0:37:26.080
<v Speaker 1>A couple of things that you mentioned I think are

0:37:26.120 --> 0:37:30.520
<v Speaker 1>really interesting. One you talked about the development of a

0:37:30.560 --> 0:37:33.000
<v Speaker 1>guy who's really young in James Wiseman, and you also

0:37:33.040 --> 0:37:36.919
<v Speaker 1>talked about Draymond Green, who's very vocal, very stubborn, one

0:37:36.920 --> 0:37:41.600
<v Speaker 1>of the most intriguing for someone who hosted podcast that

0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:49.680
<v Speaker 1>likes to touch on storylines. This Draymond Green James Wiseman,

0:37:50.600 --> 0:37:55.719
<v Speaker 1>we'll call it relationship is very interesting to me. From

0:37:55.760 --> 0:37:59.120
<v Speaker 1>what I can see, it seems like James wisen is

0:37:59.120 --> 0:38:02.520
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a deer headlights doesn't know how

0:38:02.560 --> 0:38:07.359
<v Speaker 1>to play organize basketball. In my opinion, yes, I think

0:38:08.000 --> 0:38:11.120
<v Speaker 1>I think Draymond Green has maximized his potential and his

0:38:11.480 --> 0:38:15.040
<v Speaker 1>physical limitations. Will say, based on his IQ and the

0:38:15.080 --> 0:38:18.880
<v Speaker 1>ability to know the game. He sees James Wiseman filled

0:38:18.920 --> 0:38:21.799
<v Speaker 1>with physical gifts and he's like, why don't you know

0:38:21.840 --> 0:38:25.200
<v Speaker 1>how to play basketball? Young king? So my thought is,

0:38:26.360 --> 0:38:28.479
<v Speaker 1>James Wise is gonna get paid a lot of money soon.

0:38:29.120 --> 0:38:30.960
<v Speaker 1>What incentive is he going to have to add to

0:38:31.000 --> 0:38:33.960
<v Speaker 1>his game at that point? Do you think there's a

0:38:34.000 --> 0:38:37.480
<v Speaker 1>potential for James Wiseman to be like an Andrew Bynem.

0:38:39.760 --> 0:38:44.120
<v Speaker 6>So I'll throw this out there, that is correct. With Drammond,

0:38:44.680 --> 0:38:49.160
<v Speaker 6>he did not particularly seem to love D'Angelo Russell last year,

0:38:49.480 --> 0:38:52.120
<v Speaker 6>who he viewed as someone who had you know, made

0:38:52.120 --> 0:38:55.320
<v Speaker 6>more talent than him, just in terms of like scoring

0:38:55.320 --> 0:38:56.879
<v Speaker 6>the ball and all that stuff, and he didn't feel

0:38:56.880 --> 0:38:58.879
<v Speaker 6>like he worked as hard as him or hard enough. Right,

0:39:00.000 --> 0:39:02.200
<v Speaker 6>the other thing I've seen gives me any indication they

0:39:02.239 --> 0:39:04.640
<v Speaker 6>feels that way about Wiseman now, Like right now, him

0:39:04.640 --> 0:39:08.160
<v Speaker 6>and Steph Curry seem to really like him, which indicates

0:39:08.200 --> 0:39:12.520
<v Speaker 6>that they think he works hard. But at a certain

0:39:12.520 --> 0:39:15.400
<v Speaker 6>point they'll probably get frustrated with like, all right, you know,

0:39:15.440 --> 0:39:18.040
<v Speaker 6>it's great that you you know, run wind sprints with

0:39:18.080 --> 0:39:20.400
<v Speaker 6>the best of them or something like that, but it

0:39:20.440 --> 0:39:22.120
<v Speaker 6>has to actually start translating.

0:39:22.200 --> 0:39:23.680
<v Speaker 3>So I don't I don't know when that'll come.

0:39:23.719 --> 0:39:28.040
<v Speaker 6>But like there's no sign that they are down on

0:39:28.120 --> 0:39:30.359
<v Speaker 6>him at this point. It's actually quite the opposite. They

0:39:30.360 --> 0:39:33.480
<v Speaker 6>feel they seem to feel like really positive about him.

0:39:33.480 --> 0:39:36.160
<v Speaker 7>It's like too too positive almost. They feel a little

0:39:36.160 --> 0:39:38.319
<v Speaker 7>bit too positive about Wiseman. They think I think they

0:39:38.360 --> 0:39:41.319
<v Speaker 7>think he's like the next Anthony Davis. And so there's

0:39:41.320 --> 0:39:43.279
<v Speaker 7>a lot of stuff with James Wiseman that's awesome, But

0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:45.320
<v Speaker 7>there's a lot of stuff right now, even if he's nineteen,

0:39:45.360 --> 0:39:47.479
<v Speaker 7>where it's like he doesn't really know like the feel

0:39:47.480 --> 0:39:48.880
<v Speaker 7>of the game he doesn't really have, which is a

0:39:48.880 --> 0:39:50.840
<v Speaker 7>little bit of the problem. I do think him on

0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:53.600
<v Speaker 7>a lot of this is him selfishly wanting to be

0:39:53.760 --> 0:39:56.279
<v Speaker 7>like known as the guy that made James Wiseman into

0:39:56.320 --> 0:39:57.920
<v Speaker 7>an elite NBA big.

0:39:57.960 --> 0:39:58.879
<v Speaker 3>I think that's part of it.

0:39:59.040 --> 0:40:00.960
<v Speaker 7>Like the next phase of Dremont's career is to be

0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:03.600
<v Speaker 7>the next Shack or Barkley and or like a front

0:40:03.600 --> 0:40:05.640
<v Speaker 7>office guy. Right, So I think this is like something

0:40:05.680 --> 0:40:08.320
<v Speaker 7>he's going to say, well, I developed James Wiseman to

0:40:08.000 --> 0:40:09.399
<v Speaker 7>be the best big in the NBA.

0:40:09.640 --> 0:40:10.800
<v Speaker 3>I think that's like a lot.

0:40:10.640 --> 0:40:14.160
<v Speaker 6>Of when Wiseman dunks all over everyone in two years,

0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:15.600
<v Speaker 6>they'll be like, that was all me.

0:40:15.840 --> 0:40:18.799
<v Speaker 3>I think that's what he's going for here, which is

0:40:19.600 --> 0:40:20.200
<v Speaker 3>kind of smart.

0:40:20.600 --> 0:40:24.319
<v Speaker 1>But if you don't know the game by now, what

0:40:24.560 --> 0:40:27.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you have no feel because we know

0:40:27.239 --> 0:40:31.240
<v Speaker 1>that a guy this big has basically made a living

0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:34.920
<v Speaker 1>and gotten to this point based on that athletic ability,

0:40:35.400 --> 0:40:40.440
<v Speaker 1>family struggling right at that point, having to do certain

0:40:40.480 --> 0:40:44.759
<v Speaker 1>things that broke NCUBA rules. If if you're not understanding

0:40:44.840 --> 0:40:48.279
<v Speaker 1>how to play organize basketball when you know that it's critical,

0:40:48.680 --> 0:40:51.520
<v Speaker 1>what's going to happen once once the Warriors pay.

0:40:51.400 --> 0:40:54.319
<v Speaker 6>Him, So I think that's a different thing. Though right

0:40:54.360 --> 0:40:56.520
<v Speaker 6>now when I watch him, I just think it's too

0:40:56.640 --> 0:40:59.360
<v Speaker 6>everything's too fast for him. Like you watch him, and

0:40:59.400 --> 0:41:02.960
<v Speaker 6>you you see like a guy who like literally played

0:41:03.080 --> 0:41:05.080
<v Speaker 6>high school ball and then jumped to the NBA.

0:41:05.719 --> 0:41:08.040
<v Speaker 3>And just because like physically.

0:41:07.520 --> 0:41:10.239
<v Speaker 6>He's an NBA guy does not mean mentally he can

0:41:10.280 --> 0:41:12.880
<v Speaker 6>process the game that pas I don't know if he

0:41:12.960 --> 0:41:15.560
<v Speaker 6>ever will though like that, I mean it's fair to say, like, Okay,

0:41:15.560 --> 0:41:17.319
<v Speaker 6>so the game's too fast for f him now, that

0:41:17.400 --> 0:41:19.640
<v Speaker 6>does not mean in two years it slows down.

0:41:19.920 --> 0:41:22.400
<v Speaker 3>It may or may not. I don't know, you know,

0:41:22.840 --> 0:41:24.280
<v Speaker 3>it's kind of one of those things.

0:41:24.320 --> 0:41:26.919
<v Speaker 6>But it's, uh, you know, I guess it's we'll see,

0:41:26.960 --> 0:41:28.600
<v Speaker 6>I guess. I guess it gets back to the over

0:41:28.880 --> 0:41:32.520
<v Speaker 6>the overriding question with the Warriors, which is like he's

0:41:32.640 --> 0:41:37.000
<v Speaker 6>probably two years away at minimum from being like a

0:41:37.040 --> 0:41:39.600
<v Speaker 6>winning player, like being a guy you can feel confident

0:41:39.680 --> 0:41:43.680
<v Speaker 6>about maybe starting on a playoff team. And in the meantime,

0:41:43.680 --> 0:41:45.840
<v Speaker 6>you have Steph Curry who's thirty two. You have Draymond

0:41:45.880 --> 0:41:49.560
<v Speaker 6>Green who's turning he's thirty. They both are gonna turn

0:41:49.600 --> 0:41:51.080
<v Speaker 6>it your older in like the next month or so,

0:41:53.400 --> 0:41:55.960
<v Speaker 6>are they just gonna like chill for like the next

0:41:56.000 --> 0:41:59.360
<v Speaker 6>three years and like hope that like Wiseman, you know,

0:41:59.520 --> 0:42:01.719
<v Speaker 6>like all clicks for him at like twenty one or

0:42:01.760 --> 0:42:02.239
<v Speaker 6>twenty two.

0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:05.360
<v Speaker 3>Or are they like they're.

0:42:05.239 --> 0:42:07.279
<v Speaker 6>Kind of the only team in the NBA who's got

0:42:07.320 --> 0:42:10.319
<v Speaker 6>like they're on both trajectories but like not committed to

0:42:10.360 --> 0:42:10.799
<v Speaker 6>either one.

0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:11.560
<v Speaker 3>Yep, yep.

0:42:12.000 --> 0:42:13.799
<v Speaker 1>That's why it's for me the most as well.

0:42:14.800 --> 0:42:17.080
<v Speaker 6>It's like they're not the Spurs. They'd like they love

0:42:17.160 --> 0:42:19.320
<v Speaker 6>to think of themselves as like we're the new Spurs.

0:42:19.320 --> 0:42:21.839
<v Speaker 6>I'm like, I don't really recall this happening with like

0:42:22.360 --> 0:42:24.560
<v Speaker 6>Kawhi and when they have like the you know, like

0:42:24.600 --> 0:42:26.360
<v Speaker 6>when Kauhi was like the young guy there is like

0:42:26.440 --> 0:42:28.919
<v Speaker 6>I still recall them winning like fifty five to sixty games.

0:42:28.920 --> 0:42:30.680
<v Speaker 7>Well, I guess they would have if Clay was healthy,

0:42:30.760 --> 0:42:32.719
<v Speaker 7>like maybe not sixty games, but they like they would

0:42:32.760 --> 0:42:34.439
<v Speaker 7>have gotten there. So like they're doing it a little

0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:37.000
<v Speaker 7>bit hamstrung. I think with Wiseman though, the one the

0:42:37.080 --> 0:42:40.080
<v Speaker 7>one real issue I think is he might be a

0:42:40.120 --> 0:42:42.520
<v Speaker 7>little he might be a little soft. Like that's the

0:42:42.560 --> 0:42:44.480
<v Speaker 7>only thing where I think where it's like I'm not

0:42:44.480 --> 0:42:47.879
<v Speaker 7>talking about soft like like he just doesn't like there

0:42:47.880 --> 0:42:50.280
<v Speaker 7>are plays where he's gonna like he'll rip the rebound

0:42:50.360 --> 0:42:52.680
<v Speaker 7>dunket and then he'll get really excited. But you just

0:42:52.680 --> 0:42:54.560
<v Speaker 7>don't see that enough out of the guy. A lot

0:42:54.560 --> 0:42:56.200
<v Speaker 7>of this is like he's really young, but a lot

0:42:56.200 --> 0:42:58.799
<v Speaker 7>of it's like he wants Steve Curs says he wants

0:42:58.840 --> 0:43:01.239
<v Speaker 7>him to talk to KG and you remember, Kay, like

0:43:01.280 --> 0:43:03.359
<v Speaker 7>that's KG, right, Like that's that's what he wants out

0:43:03.400 --> 0:43:03.520
<v Speaker 7>of it.

0:43:03.560 --> 0:43:04.960
<v Speaker 3>You don't see that enough on Wiseman.

0:43:05.120 --> 0:43:06.759
<v Speaker 7>So maybe that's I think the only that that's the

0:43:06.800 --> 0:43:09.200
<v Speaker 7>thing where it's okay, that's the problem I see right

0:43:09.239 --> 0:43:11.200
<v Speaker 7>now will be like it might be a little soft.

0:43:11.239 --> 0:43:13.279
<v Speaker 7>And then if you are, because that's really not great

0:43:13.280 --> 0:43:16.040
<v Speaker 7>to be around. Draymond though, just kill you.

0:43:17.040 --> 0:43:18.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was gonna say, because if if that's like

0:43:18.600 --> 0:43:19.240
<v Speaker 3>a real.

0:43:19.080 --> 0:43:21.880
<v Speaker 6>Thing, like he just doesn't like contact from content. So

0:43:22.239 --> 0:43:24.239
<v Speaker 6>I don't think you grow out of that, Like you're

0:43:24.320 --> 0:43:27.960
<v Speaker 6>either you're either the guy who likes to just bulldoze

0:43:28.000 --> 0:43:31.440
<v Speaker 6>everyone physically or you're not like Eric Pascal, right yeah,

0:43:31.600 --> 0:43:35.000
<v Speaker 6>or Draymond quite frankly, you know, like that's like I

0:43:35.040 --> 0:43:39.239
<v Speaker 6>mean he Draymond has no problem mixing it up.

0:43:39.400 --> 0:43:42.799
<v Speaker 1>So to say, no, absolutely, I think that's Uh, it's

0:43:42.840 --> 0:43:44.960
<v Speaker 1>something to keep an eye on. I'm calling it now.

0:43:45.560 --> 0:43:48.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm just on that. That is my forecast. Now this

0:43:48.760 --> 0:43:51.600
<v Speaker 1>is not going to Uh, I don't think it's gonna

0:43:51.640 --> 0:43:54.200
<v Speaker 1>get better. You guys can hold me accountable to that.

0:43:54.280 --> 0:43:56.839
<v Speaker 1>If James Wiseman becomes like the next ad the next

0:43:56.920 --> 0:43:59.640
<v Speaker 1>be honest. Uh, speaking of hot takes that I've had

0:43:59.680 --> 0:44:03.040
<v Speaker 1>that I've waffled on, please sell me on Steph Curry

0:44:03.080 --> 0:44:03.920
<v Speaker 1>being batman.

0:44:05.280 --> 0:44:10.120
<v Speaker 6>Oh, come on, five straight finals, three without Kevin Durant.

0:44:10.480 --> 0:44:11.600
<v Speaker 3>Let's keep that in mind.

0:44:12.000 --> 0:44:15.520
<v Speaker 6>Did Kevin Durant play against your Portland Trailblazers when Steph

0:44:15.640 --> 0:44:18.840
<v Speaker 6>set the record for points in a sweep? Did Steph

0:44:18.920 --> 0:44:24.040
<v Speaker 6>play against Houston when he embarrassed James Harden and PJ.

0:44:24.160 --> 0:44:26.520
<v Speaker 6>Tucker and Chris Paul for like the eight billionth time.

0:44:26.360 --> 0:44:26.839
<v Speaker 3>In a row.

0:44:27.000 --> 0:44:30.680
<v Speaker 6>Like you can say what you want about Katie Kawhi.

0:44:31.120 --> 0:44:34.080
<v Speaker 6>They're both physically more impressive. They can do certain things

0:44:34.120 --> 0:44:37.960
<v Speaker 6>that Steph can't do by proxy of just the reality.

0:44:38.040 --> 0:44:40.440
<v Speaker 6>Like Steph can't make himself six', ten that's not something

0:44:40.440 --> 0:44:44.680
<v Speaker 6>he can, do but he he's the centerpiece of the

0:44:45.080 --> 0:44:48.400
<v Speaker 6>best team of the last. Decade everything revolves around.

0:44:48.440 --> 0:44:52.440
<v Speaker 3>Him and you, know if you want.

0:44:52.160 --> 0:44:57.080
<v Speaker 6>To Say katie's better than, Him i'm not opposed to.

0:44:57.160 --> 0:45:00.480
<v Speaker 6>IT i just don't understand why they continue to win

0:45:00.600 --> 0:45:04.080
<v Speaker 6>games at a higher clip WHEN kd sat And steph

0:45:04.120 --> 0:45:05.160
<v Speaker 6>played and not vice.

0:45:05.239 --> 0:45:08.719
<v Speaker 3>Versa maybe that's a coaching. THING i don't. Know but

0:45:08.880 --> 0:45:12.560
<v Speaker 3>like he's he's he's still.

0:45:12.440 --> 0:45:14.560
<v Speaker 6>Very much one of Those he's one of the like

0:45:14.880 --> 0:45:16.759
<v Speaker 6>three or four players in the. LEAGUE i think you

0:45:16.840 --> 0:45:20.560
<v Speaker 6>can actually build a title contender. Around would you like

0:45:20.760 --> 0:45:21.120
<v Speaker 6>it's been?

0:45:21.239 --> 0:45:26.960
<v Speaker 7>DONE i THINK i think there's a standard Of Steph

0:45:27.000 --> 0:45:29.600
<v Speaker 7>curry that we don't even want him As. BATMAN i

0:45:29.640 --> 0:45:31.160
<v Speaker 7>think there are a lot of people that want him

0:45:31.160 --> 0:45:33.839
<v Speaker 7>to Be, superman where it's like there's just, gifts Like

0:45:33.880 --> 0:45:36.799
<v Speaker 7>superman could Kill batman in about two, seconds, Right like

0:45:36.840 --> 0:45:40.000
<v Speaker 7>that's that's the ongoing joke About, batman AND i think

0:45:40.040 --> 0:45:42.440
<v Speaker 7>that that's what you see out of someone Like Michael.

0:45:42.480 --> 0:45:44.960
<v Speaker 7>JORDAN i don't even Think lebron is at that. LEVEL

0:45:45.080 --> 0:45:47.040
<v Speaker 7>i think With Steph, CURRY i think people want him

0:45:47.040 --> 0:45:50.279
<v Speaker 7>to be like this unstoppable, force which he was for a,

0:45:50.320 --> 0:45:53.960
<v Speaker 7>while and now that he not necessarily Is let's keep

0:45:54.000 --> 0:45:55.560
<v Speaker 7>in mind. Though he also my favorite part is that

0:45:55.600 --> 0:45:57.800
<v Speaker 7>he actually Beat Kevin durant in his seven game series

0:45:57.800 --> 0:46:00.239
<v Speaker 7>in the. Postseason it's probably my favorite. Part but like

0:46:00.280 --> 0:46:02.120
<v Speaker 7>they expect him to be this great player day in

0:46:02.120 --> 0:46:03.640
<v Speaker 7>and day, out and it's, like we do. Know it's

0:46:03.640 --> 0:46:06.640
<v Speaker 7>like the regular, season the regular, season seventy two. Games

0:46:06.680 --> 0:46:09.479
<v Speaker 7>now it just this. Happens he's gonna have shitty. GAMES

0:46:09.520 --> 0:46:14.280
<v Speaker 7>i think the one criticism right now For Steph, curry

0:46:14.280 --> 0:46:16.719
<v Speaker 7>even From warriors, fans and we haven't seen this in

0:46:16.719 --> 0:46:20.560
<v Speaker 7>a long, time is that he's so great off the

0:46:20.560 --> 0:46:24.360
<v Speaker 7>ball that he's used to playing that way with a

0:46:24.400 --> 0:46:26.359
<v Speaker 7>lot of people that know how to play with, him

0:46:26.600 --> 0:46:28.440
<v Speaker 7>and right now he's playing with.

0:46:28.480 --> 0:46:29.880
<v Speaker 3>Guys that don't know how to play that.

0:46:29.920 --> 0:46:34.239
<v Speaker 7>Way the counterpoint is That steph can actually play on

0:46:34.280 --> 0:46:36.800
<v Speaker 7>the ball and handle and run a defense on offense,

0:46:36.840 --> 0:46:39.120
<v Speaker 7>too but it just seems like he doesn't want. To

0:46:39.200 --> 0:46:40.520
<v Speaker 7>AND i think that that's a little bit of A

0:46:40.600 --> 0:46:42.920
<v Speaker 7>christism With stefph, today is that he's just not willing

0:46:42.920 --> 0:46:44.600
<v Speaker 7>to do that because he has to kind of rewire

0:46:44.600 --> 0:46:46.600
<v Speaker 7>his brain to play the way that people want him to,

0:46:46.640 --> 0:46:51.320
<v Speaker 7>play which Is kyrie Harden kd all those Guys y're honest,

0:46:51.360 --> 0:46:53.920
<v Speaker 7>even and he's. Not he's just not that. Guy so

0:46:54.200 --> 0:46:56.200
<v Speaker 7>we'll see if he gets because he could average like

0:46:56.200 --> 0:46:57.719
<v Speaker 7>thirty five. POINTS i just don't know how much that,

0:46:57.719 --> 0:47:03.359
<v Speaker 7>matters but we'll. See how it's only been sixteen games for.

0:47:03.400 --> 0:47:09.080
<v Speaker 1>SURE i you talked About Steve kerr and how stubborn he.

0:47:09.160 --> 0:47:14.719
<v Speaker 1>Is my QUESTION i have never asked A warriors, reporter

0:47:15.880 --> 0:47:18.239
<v Speaker 1>And i've had conversations with this a lot with other.

0:47:18.400 --> 0:47:27.319
<v Speaker 1>Friends how many rings Does Mark jackson get If steve that, Job.

0:47:29.560 --> 0:47:30.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna still go.

0:47:30.760 --> 0:47:35.720
<v Speaker 6>ZERO i feel like people forget some of the weird

0:47:35.760 --> 0:47:37.920
<v Speaker 6>stuff About Mark. JACKSON i, mean that would be a

0:47:37.960 --> 0:47:43.280
<v Speaker 6>fun podcast to. Do the dude told the locker room

0:47:43.560 --> 0:47:46.440
<v Speaker 6>That festus A zeally was rooting for them to lose

0:47:46.480 --> 0:47:48.960
<v Speaker 6>because he was out, injured to the point where they

0:47:49.000 --> 0:47:54.120
<v Speaker 6>had like a confrontation And festus, cried pleading his case

0:47:54.800 --> 0:47:56.000
<v Speaker 6>that that wasn't.

0:47:56.120 --> 0:47:59.600
<v Speaker 7>True his assistant coach also got fired because he was

0:47:59.640 --> 0:48:03.279
<v Speaker 7>secretly recording What Mark jackson was. Saying that's also a fun. One,

0:48:03.480 --> 0:48:06.480
<v Speaker 7>yeah there's a lot of stuff With Mark. JACKSON i

0:48:06.520 --> 0:48:08.279
<v Speaker 7>will say, this so he should have been he should

0:48:08.280 --> 0:48:10.560
<v Speaker 7>have been announced. It he also played a style with

0:48:10.600 --> 0:48:14.160
<v Speaker 7>the team that that was very, Like, actually now that

0:48:14.200 --> 0:48:16.200
<v Speaker 7>you mentioned, it he actually played a style With Stephen

0:48:16.320 --> 0:48:18.960
<v Speaker 7>clay where those guys get to shoot as many times they.

0:48:18.960 --> 0:48:21.920
<v Speaker 7>Wanted it's it's like basically What warriors fans ironically want

0:48:21.960 --> 0:48:22.440
<v Speaker 7>those guys to.

0:48:22.480 --> 0:48:22.799
<v Speaker 3>Do right.

0:48:22.800 --> 0:48:26.319
<v Speaker 7>Now, now if you told, me for some, reason IF

0:48:26.400 --> 0:48:30.040
<v Speaker 7>kd wanted to go to The warriors And Mark jackson

0:48:30.120 --> 0:48:32.000
<v Speaker 7>was still the, coach THEN i would, say, yeah they

0:48:32.040 --> 0:48:34.400
<v Speaker 7>probably win, anyway like they Probably.

0:48:34.200 --> 0:48:36.440
<v Speaker 6>I'd Say, Andy, Andy OR i could have coached the,

0:48:36.480 --> 0:48:40.240
<v Speaker 6>team the twenty seventeen team With katie and all those.

0:48:40.120 --> 0:48:42.120
<v Speaker 7>Guys But katie would not have gone to The warriors

0:48:42.160 --> 0:48:45.200
<v Speaker 7>And Steve curR was the, coach then is the counterpoint to?

0:48:45.239 --> 0:48:48.120
<v Speaker 7>That SO i would say zero. Two but Like Mike

0:48:48.160 --> 0:48:50.400
<v Speaker 7>brown had that team ready to win a championship WITH.

0:48:50.480 --> 0:48:53.200
<v Speaker 7>Kd and, actually now that you and now we're on

0:48:53.200 --> 0:48:55.560
<v Speaker 7>The steve kerk topic is actually one of the biggest

0:48:55.560 --> 0:48:57.759
<v Speaker 7>reasons Why kadi left is that he wanted to play

0:48:57.760 --> 0:49:00.800
<v Speaker 7>a certain way that was more conducive to his, style

0:49:00.920 --> 0:49:02.840
<v Speaker 7>right to what he wanted in the late game, situations

0:49:02.840 --> 0:49:04.520
<v Speaker 7>And Steve kerr like he is right, now is, saying,

0:49:04.520 --> 0:49:07.040
<v Speaker 7>well you're gonna play my, Way you're gonna play in

0:49:07.080 --> 0:49:09.440
<v Speaker 7>this system THAT i. Want and that's one of the

0:49:09.440 --> 0:49:12.279
<v Speaker 7>reasons Wh kyrie, SAID i Mean katie's, Today i'm out of.

0:49:12.280 --> 0:49:15.560
<v Speaker 1>Here, yeah he wanted to play MORE iso ball And

0:49:15.640 --> 0:49:18.399
<v Speaker 1>steve didn't want. TO i think it was like he

0:49:19.040 --> 0:49:23.000
<v Speaker 1>they basically. Changed it was like more iso and then

0:49:23.120 --> 0:49:26.040
<v Speaker 1>less and less and less and, less and then it

0:49:26.040 --> 0:49:28.799
<v Speaker 1>felt kind of Like katie was just requiring more in

0:49:28.920 --> 0:49:31.359
<v Speaker 1>order to, stay which is very. Interesting do you Think

0:49:31.400 --> 0:49:33.000
<v Speaker 1>Steve kerr gets fired at the end of this?

0:49:33.080 --> 0:49:35.200
<v Speaker 3>Year, no no.

0:49:35.320 --> 0:49:40.759
<v Speaker 6>Chance in, fact ninety percent of the complaints that we

0:49:40.880 --> 0:49:43.000
<v Speaker 6>hear on our, show and just kind of like the

0:49:43.040 --> 0:49:47.560
<v Speaker 6>general sentiment there is because there's like it just feels

0:49:47.600 --> 0:49:51.239
<v Speaker 6>like there's NO i want to say, pressure but like

0:49:51.280 --> 0:49:54.440
<v Speaker 6>no urgency with. Anything you, Know it's like he's not getting,

0:49:54.480 --> 0:49:59.160
<v Speaker 6>fired they're not Firing Bob, Myers LIKE i highly doubt

0:49:59.160 --> 0:50:02.000
<v Speaker 6>anything's changed, there and so it just feels like there's

0:50:02.040 --> 0:50:02.920
<v Speaker 6>no urgency to do.

0:50:02.960 --> 0:50:03.720
<v Speaker 3>Anything, ever.

0:50:05.480 --> 0:50:07.920
<v Speaker 1>Here's a random question With KELLY u right now, engaged

0:50:07.960 --> 0:50:11.000
<v Speaker 1>who's the now who's now The king Of Horny hours

0:50:11.080 --> 0:50:13.080
<v Speaker 1>for The, Warriors.

0:50:12.960 --> 0:50:16.040
<v Speaker 3>Oh without, It oh without a, doubt without a, Doubt Klay.

0:50:15.840 --> 0:50:20.960
<v Speaker 8>Thompson Klay, Thompson Clay thompson The king before even With

0:50:21.239 --> 0:50:25.120
<v Speaker 8>ubray a, single they Put Steph Kelly ubray and and

0:50:25.120 --> 0:50:26.200
<v Speaker 8>And Klay thompson on one.

0:50:26.200 --> 0:50:28.440
<v Speaker 3>Team it's it's Not it's just it's. Not what is the?

0:50:28.480 --> 0:50:31.239
<v Speaker 3>Point come? On But Klay thompson who was going out

0:50:31.239 --> 0:50:31.520
<v Speaker 3>with what.

0:50:31.560 --> 0:50:34.560
<v Speaker 7>Is what was her, Name? LAURA i forget her, name

0:50:34.560 --> 0:50:36.279
<v Speaker 7>but she. Was they were going out for a little

0:50:36.280 --> 0:50:38.400
<v Speaker 7>while and all the. Words fans were very. Happy it

0:50:38.480 --> 0:50:40.239
<v Speaker 7>seemed Like klay had turned in the corner and then

0:50:40.480 --> 0:50:44.560
<v Speaker 7>unshockingly they broke up and Not clay's. Back so he's

0:50:44.640 --> 0:50:46.759
<v Speaker 7>he's The. King he's, undefeated there's no there's no beating

0:50:46.840 --> 0:50:48.440
<v Speaker 7>The Rick fox of his, generation.

0:50:49.760 --> 0:50:54.480
<v Speaker 1>So, smooth so under like under cells, himself very.

0:50:54.520 --> 0:50:59.280
<v Speaker 6>Smart have you heard anyone say a negative thing About Klay, Thompson,

0:50:59.280 --> 0:51:00.759
<v Speaker 6>like are There clay tom some haters out?

0:51:00.760 --> 0:51:01.680
<v Speaker 3>THERE i, mean because you.

0:51:01.760 --> 0:51:04.680
<v Speaker 1>Know what's crazy is there's a guy in this office

0:51:05.200 --> 0:51:08.040
<v Speaker 1>who says that To clay is not a top fifty

0:51:08.120 --> 0:51:11.560
<v Speaker 1>player in the league because he looks at this analytics

0:51:11.560 --> 0:51:14.600
<v Speaker 1>so so for, him because he listens to this pod.

0:51:14.680 --> 0:51:18.880
<v Speaker 1>Religiously tell me where you Rank clay and why and

0:51:18.920 --> 0:51:21.719
<v Speaker 1>why the analytics don't matter when it comes To.

0:51:21.800 --> 0:51:25.600
<v Speaker 6>Clay, wow we're talking about where he tore everything in

0:51:25.640 --> 0:51:26.120
<v Speaker 6>both of his.

0:51:26.200 --> 0:51:29.040
<v Speaker 1>Legs you're, correct, correct pre pre, Injury Clay.

0:51:29.120 --> 0:51:34.080
<v Speaker 6>THOMPSON i, mean how many wings are there that can

0:51:34.680 --> 0:51:42.120
<v Speaker 6>score twenty points, consistently shoot, efficiently and play high level.

0:51:42.160 --> 0:51:44.120
<v Speaker 3>Defense like it's one of those.

0:51:44.040 --> 0:51:46.719
<v Speaker 6>Things where you're, like, oh, well and then you start

0:51:46.719 --> 0:51:49.280
<v Speaker 6>making the list and you know it's like Obviously, Kawhi Paul,

0:51:49.320 --> 0:51:54.400
<v Speaker 6>George Jimmy, butler and then you you, Know Jason, tatum

0:51:54.400 --> 0:51:56.120
<v Speaker 6>and then you're, like, well Maybe clay might be the

0:51:56.160 --> 0:51:57.719
<v Speaker 6>fifth or sixth best Wing after those.

0:51:57.760 --> 0:52:00.680
<v Speaker 3>Guys there's just not a lot of who can do

0:52:00.719 --> 0:52:01.239
<v Speaker 3>the things he.

0:52:01.280 --> 0:52:03.720
<v Speaker 6>Does even if he can't like dribble through his legs

0:52:03.719 --> 0:52:06.440
<v Speaker 6>Like James harden or any of that fancy. Stuff he

0:52:06.600 --> 0:52:09.880
<v Speaker 6>just he's wildly effective at things that contribute to.

0:52:09.920 --> 0:52:11.239
<v Speaker 3>Winning look at The warriors this.

0:52:11.320 --> 0:52:16.120
<v Speaker 6>Year they replaced him With wiggins And, ubre who are. Starters,

0:52:16.200 --> 0:52:19.560
<v Speaker 6>right they're Starting cali average maybe slightly at, best maybe

0:52:19.600 --> 0:52:20.239
<v Speaker 6>a little.

0:52:19.960 --> 0:52:21.320
<v Speaker 3>Above maybe maybe.

0:52:21.320 --> 0:52:26.160
<v Speaker 6>Not and they And steph still want To he's probably

0:52:26.200 --> 0:52:28.399
<v Speaker 6>still the best point guard in the, league and he's

0:52:28.400 --> 0:52:32.920
<v Speaker 6>still an excellent, player and they're decidedly average team without his, presence,

0:52:33.000 --> 0:52:36.719
<v Speaker 6>Right like even it Takes steph scoring sixty for them

0:52:36.760 --> 0:52:40.480
<v Speaker 6>to Beat, portland who's like a pretty good team but

0:52:40.480 --> 0:52:43.600
<v Speaker 6>probably not gonna win a, title right like those and

0:52:43.640 --> 0:52:47.080
<v Speaker 6>then but then you Put clay on that, team AND i,

0:52:47.080 --> 0:52:50.680
<v Speaker 6>MEAN i don't Think portland ever beat them in a

0:52:50.680 --> 0:52:54.200
<v Speaker 6>game that mattered over the last. Decade and you, Know

0:52:54.239 --> 0:52:56.520
<v Speaker 6>steph was always always the better. Player but like the

0:52:56.600 --> 0:52:58.160
<v Speaker 6>combo of those two is just like.

0:52:58.719 --> 0:53:01.240
<v Speaker 3>As good as dam and Ces. A they didn't. EXACTLY

0:53:01.320 --> 0:53:03.560
<v Speaker 3>i think that's the fit stuff With.

0:53:03.600 --> 0:53:06.000
<v Speaker 7>CLAY i think the analytics don't look too kindly on

0:53:06.040 --> 0:53:08.520
<v Speaker 7>him because he doesn't have defensive, stats so no role,

0:53:08.560 --> 0:53:11.760
<v Speaker 7>steals no rold, blocks. Uh but he's like the best

0:53:11.760 --> 0:53:13.960
<v Speaker 7>defensive assignment guy that The warriors can throw on.

0:53:14.000 --> 0:53:16.880
<v Speaker 6>Someone he's probably the best three AND d like wing

0:53:16.880 --> 0:53:21.680
<v Speaker 6>player in THE, nba like specifically shoot, threes defend, wings defend,

0:53:21.719 --> 0:53:23.680
<v Speaker 6>Guards like that's the guy that's the best in THE.

0:53:23.719 --> 0:53:25.640
<v Speaker 3>Nba and he can also play next to everyone else.

0:53:25.640 --> 0:53:28.279
<v Speaker 7>Offensively the analytics are also aren't great BECAUSE i can

0:53:28.360 --> 0:53:29.960
<v Speaker 7>get to the free throw line like his.

0:53:30.040 --> 0:53:33.640
<v Speaker 6>Field he's not really a, playmaker like analytics don't really

0:53:33.680 --> 0:53:37.320
<v Speaker 6>bring into, account like him running in a circle taking

0:53:37.400 --> 0:53:40.240
<v Speaker 6>three defenders And draymond getting a layup on that, play

0:53:40.719 --> 0:53:43.680
<v Speaker 6>and like we've Watched draymond play Without clay And, staff

0:53:44.640 --> 0:53:47.640
<v Speaker 6>that layup's not there without, them, Right like it's just

0:53:48.040 --> 0:53:50.040
<v Speaker 6>it just kind of is what it. Is like there's

0:53:50.080 --> 0:53:53.720
<v Speaker 6>he has like a freak out capacity to defenses because

0:53:53.760 --> 0:53:56.640
<v Speaker 6>like he can miss ten shots in a, Row they're

0:53:56.680 --> 0:53:58.439
<v Speaker 6>still going to pay attention to him no matter where

0:53:58.440 --> 0:54:01.160
<v Speaker 6>he is on the court because we've seen him make

0:54:01.200 --> 0:54:03.120
<v Speaker 6>ten shots in a row immediately after missing.

0:54:03.160 --> 0:54:06.799
<v Speaker 1>Ten so WHILE i have you here BEFORE i let you,

0:54:06.880 --> 0:54:11.120
<v Speaker 1>roll what is the or quart of the? Way what

0:54:11.280 --> 0:54:14.239
<v Speaker 1>is your prediction for what this team is going to

0:54:14.360 --> 0:54:18.880
<v Speaker 1>end up doing given its current starting five and the

0:54:18.960 --> 0:54:20.759
<v Speaker 1>trajectory that you've seen in the last few.

0:54:20.800 --> 0:54:24.640
<v Speaker 3>Games for, ME i.

0:54:26.480 --> 0:54:28.920
<v Speaker 6>Think That Steve kurt is going to actually create some emergency.

0:54:28.920 --> 0:54:30.520
<v Speaker 6>HERE i think he's realized there.

0:54:30.400 --> 0:54:32.560
<v Speaker 7>Is a lot of mistakes that he's making literally BECAUSE

0:54:32.800 --> 0:54:35.160
<v Speaker 7>i think he's, stubborn because he wants his offense to

0:54:35.239 --> 0:54:39.319
<v Speaker 7>run a certain. Way it's Like Phil, jackson When Phil

0:54:39.400 --> 0:54:43.080
<v Speaker 7>jackson was trying to like push the triangle onto players

0:54:43.120 --> 0:54:45.160
<v Speaker 7>in the modern, age where they were, like this is

0:54:45.200 --> 0:54:47.480
<v Speaker 7>just not how we play. Basketball AND i think that's

0:54:47.520 --> 0:54:49.200
<v Speaker 7>What Steve kurr is. Doing with a lot of guys

0:54:49.200 --> 0:54:51.960
<v Speaker 7>Like Derek pascal And Jow, Wiggins Kelly, Ubre James wiseman

0:54:52.000 --> 0:54:52.480
<v Speaker 7>are just, like.

0:54:53.280 --> 0:54:55.439
<v Speaker 3>Look this is great in. THEORY i get.

0:54:55.480 --> 0:54:57.640
<v Speaker 7>It and if you Had Andre, Dollar Sean livingston And

0:54:57.680 --> 0:54:58.799
<v Speaker 7>katie And, klay this would make.

0:54:58.840 --> 0:54:59.360
<v Speaker 3>Sense but you.

0:54:59.440 --> 0:55:02.480
<v Speaker 7>Don't so let's just play a normal way where everyone

0:55:02.520 --> 0:55:04.799
<v Speaker 7>else is playing right, now spread the, floor run out

0:55:04.800 --> 0:55:05.479
<v Speaker 7>a lot of high pinker.

0:55:05.560 --> 0:55:07.120
<v Speaker 3>ROLL i think he'll end up doing.

0:55:07.200 --> 0:55:09.520
<v Speaker 7>THAT i think The warriors do end up being a

0:55:09.560 --> 0:55:11.080
<v Speaker 7>six seed or a five, seed and.

0:55:11.080 --> 0:55:14.680
<v Speaker 6>Unfortunately part of that is Because portland's. Injured like that,

0:55:14.719 --> 0:55:16.719
<v Speaker 6>actually like sadly, enough helps The.

0:55:16.719 --> 0:55:18.440
<v Speaker 7>WARRIORS i think there's a lot Of west teams in the,

0:55:18.520 --> 0:55:21.319
<v Speaker 7>league The west teams that aren't very good, Either So

0:55:21.320 --> 0:55:23.959
<v Speaker 7>i'll probably have them as a six seed and staying

0:55:23.960 --> 0:55:24.880
<v Speaker 7>out of the playing, Game.

0:55:25.680 --> 0:55:26.279
<v Speaker 3>I'll be a little.

0:55:26.320 --> 0:55:29.560
<v Speaker 6>LOWER i think they're gonna keep riding this weird win

0:55:29.680 --> 0:55:32.839
<v Speaker 6>to lose two win, three maybe lose two and kind

0:55:32.880 --> 0:55:36.480
<v Speaker 6>of end up in a seven eight. Seed you, KNOW

0:55:36.600 --> 0:55:38.560
<v Speaker 6>i think they can put up a nice little. Fight

0:55:38.600 --> 0:55:41.279
<v Speaker 6>steph will definitely steal a game or two against like The,

0:55:41.360 --> 0:55:42.200
<v Speaker 6>lakers but.

0:55:43.040 --> 0:55:44.279
<v Speaker 3>It's not gonna work out for.

0:55:44.320 --> 0:55:47.480
<v Speaker 6>Them and THEN i think it gets interesting BECAUSE i

0:55:47.640 --> 0:55:49.840
<v Speaker 6>think you're gonna start seeing a little pressure on the.

0:55:49.840 --> 0:55:53.880
<v Speaker 6>Team you're gonna get the. UH i did the good

0:55:54.040 --> 0:55:57.000
<v Speaker 6>soldier thing all. Year i'm not signing up to have

0:55:57.080 --> 0:56:00.040
<v Speaker 6>the entire rest of my career look like, This so

0:56:00.880 --> 0:56:01.640
<v Speaker 6>do something a little more.

0:56:01.640 --> 0:56:04.839
<v Speaker 3>Aggressive stuff is. Gone you heard it here. First that's

0:56:04.840 --> 0:56:07.120
<v Speaker 3>All i'm. Saying i'm sad that was gone the end.

0:56:07.000 --> 0:56:09.840
<v Speaker 1>Of the, year hasn't, signed has not signed an, extension

0:56:10.000 --> 0:56:12.759
<v Speaker 1>hasn't really talked. There you go a lot about the

0:56:12.840 --> 0:56:16.839
<v Speaker 1>fact that it's going to get. Done, certainly if you're

0:56:16.880 --> 0:56:21.719
<v Speaker 1>watching what you're, watching if Your, steph you're certainly evaluating your.

0:56:21.719 --> 0:56:24.520
<v Speaker 1>OPTIONS i don't hear Any Klay. Thompson i'm a warrior

0:56:24.560 --> 0:56:27.040
<v Speaker 1>for life, talk that is for.

0:56:27.080 --> 0:56:29.560
<v Speaker 6>Sure right, now we're trying to Get clay out of

0:56:29.560 --> 0:56:32.520
<v Speaker 6>a walking. Boot that's that's that's starting point right. There

0:56:32.800 --> 0:56:36.439
<v Speaker 6>starting worry about What jersey He wears after, that and.

0:56:36.360 --> 0:56:39.480
<v Speaker 1>You also get the first round pick for The wolves

0:56:39.760 --> 0:56:42.000
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty, one probably going to be a top five.

0:56:42.080 --> 0:56:46.120
<v Speaker 1>Pick so maybe they'll Convince steph that that guy's the

0:56:46.160 --> 0:56:47.960
<v Speaker 1>next coming of genius or.

0:56:47.960 --> 0:56:50.960
<v Speaker 6>Maybe or maybe they'll package that In wiseman and you,

0:56:51.000 --> 0:56:54.360
<v Speaker 6>know offer the poo poo platter of next superstars to

0:56:55.520 --> 0:56:57.759
<v Speaker 6>you know, what, whoever whoever the next guy?

0:56:57.880 --> 0:56:57.960
<v Speaker 5>Is?

0:56:58.000 --> 0:56:58.239
<v Speaker 1>Who?

0:56:58.360 --> 0:56:59.720
<v Speaker 3>Who who demands a trade?

0:57:00.200 --> 0:57:03.919
<v Speaker 6>DEAL i don't, Know, like what have we ever gone

0:57:03.920 --> 0:57:07.000
<v Speaker 6>more than six months without some superstar demanding? Out someone's

0:57:07.000 --> 0:57:08.880
<v Speaker 6>gonna be someone's gonna ask for a.

0:57:08.920 --> 0:57:13.680
<v Speaker 1>Trade if you Gave wiseman and a first to The

0:57:13.719 --> 0:57:16.120
<v Speaker 1>wolves For Karl Anthony towns would, Work.

0:57:19.000 --> 0:57:21.640
<v Speaker 3>YEAH i THINK I i, mean do that in less

0:57:21.640 --> 0:57:21.840
<v Speaker 3>than a.

0:57:21.840 --> 0:57:25.560
<v Speaker 6>Second, YEAH i mean it kind of times up to

0:57:25.600 --> 0:57:28.960
<v Speaker 6>what we were talking, about where it's Like towns is

0:57:29.000 --> 0:57:33.160
<v Speaker 6>actually in a part of his career where he's contributing to,

0:57:33.240 --> 0:57:37.080
<v Speaker 6>productive winning basketball as opposed to being this theoretical guy

0:57:37.120 --> 0:57:40.200
<v Speaker 6>who in twenty twenty four could be the best big

0:57:40.200 --> 0:57:40.560
<v Speaker 6>man in the.

0:57:40.640 --> 0:57:43.600
<v Speaker 3>League, Right so, like with that, pick what's that? Pick

0:57:43.680 --> 0:57:46.160
<v Speaker 3>The wolves can even draft, like you, know Kr Anthony,

0:57:46.200 --> 0:57:49.400
<v Speaker 3>Towns so we could they could even do, That, so uh,

0:57:49.520 --> 0:57:50.560
<v Speaker 3>NO i think The warriors would do.

0:57:50.560 --> 0:57:52.840
<v Speaker 6>THAT i THINK i think The minnesota is. Man they

0:57:52.880 --> 0:57:56.280
<v Speaker 6>lost that trade really, Badly. Delo they're losing. Team they're losing.

0:57:56.280 --> 0:57:57.640
<v Speaker 6>Team with, me we get to and then we get

0:57:57.640 --> 0:58:00.600
<v Speaker 6>to Reunite wiggins And, towns which everyone's been you, know

0:58:00.680 --> 0:58:02.520
<v Speaker 6>crying for on the. Internet they're just, like we need

0:58:02.560 --> 0:58:03.240
<v Speaker 6>to see them together.

0:58:03.280 --> 0:58:08.360
<v Speaker 1>Again, yeah big, smokers, loving loving the, Trees jeffersons. TREES i.

0:58:08.440 --> 0:58:11.800
<v Speaker 1>Heard that's all the time that we. Have thank you

0:58:11.880 --> 0:58:15.560
<v Speaker 1>so much For sam S mendr And Andy louver for coming.

0:58:15.560 --> 0:58:17.479
<v Speaker 1>ON i am definitely going to be hitting you guys

0:58:17.520 --> 0:58:19.560
<v Speaker 1>up as More warriors news comes.

0:58:19.600 --> 0:58:19.760
<v Speaker 7>Through.

0:58:20.280 --> 0:58:22.240
<v Speaker 1>Uh i'm gonna be definitely keeping my eye also On

0:58:22.320 --> 0:58:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Draymond green And James wiseman and whether he gets ejected

0:58:25.880 --> 0:58:26.760
<v Speaker 1>again for cussing.

0:58:26.560 --> 0:58:26.960
<v Speaker 2>Out this on.

0:58:27.040 --> 0:58:32.320
<v Speaker 1>Teammates so thank. You i'll see you. Guys, bye. Guys

0:58:32.400 --> 0:58:34.320
<v Speaker 1>let me just say this before we get into LISTENER.

0:58:34.400 --> 0:58:39.600
<v Speaker 1>Dms if if someone goes back to a hoopdie from a,

0:58:39.680 --> 0:58:42.120
<v Speaker 1>bens you don't need to ask where they're going to.

0:58:42.160 --> 0:58:45.520
<v Speaker 1>Be they're not staying with. You SO i just THOUGHT

0:58:45.560 --> 0:58:48.240
<v Speaker 1>i would say that for anyone who's listening if they

0:58:48.320 --> 0:58:51.080
<v Speaker 1>think that the money that they make has no influence

0:58:51.160 --> 0:58:53.800
<v Speaker 1>on the relationships that they have with. OTHERS i just

0:58:53.840 --> 0:58:55.960
<v Speaker 1>had to say, that let's get into SIM.

0:58:56.080 --> 0:59:00.160
<v Speaker 2>Dms all, right we've got why no co host the.

0:59:00.200 --> 0:59:03.120
<v Speaker 1>Pod first of, all that's a little disrespectful to, You Mary,

0:59:03.200 --> 0:59:08.640
<v Speaker 1>ouch like you are a contributor in a huge. Way

0:59:08.880 --> 0:59:11.600
<v Speaker 1>but WHAT i would say, is, uh there's a lot

0:59:11.600 --> 0:59:14.120
<v Speaker 1>of male journalists that cover THE nba that are. Solo

0:59:15.760 --> 0:59:23.120
<v Speaker 1>you've Got Colin, Cowherd you've Got, woes there's. More IF

0:59:23.120 --> 0:59:29.520
<v Speaker 1>i Think, Abbristow Dunk, dawn nobody's, asking, hey, guys why

0:59:29.600 --> 0:59:35.720
<v Speaker 1>don't you have a co? Host FAM i, mean the

0:59:35.760 --> 0:59:38.280
<v Speaker 1>answer is, ONE i Think i'm good enough to do

0:59:38.320 --> 0:59:42.520
<v Speaker 1>it by myself. Too my natural inclination is to lift others.

0:59:42.600 --> 0:59:45.720
<v Speaker 1>UP i was a host myself WHERE i would just

0:59:45.800 --> 0:59:50.360
<v Speaker 1>deliver lobs all, day making everyone else look, Good and people,

0:59:50.400 --> 0:59:53.080
<v Speaker 1>said we're not really sure if you're, Funny we're not

0:59:53.120 --> 0:59:55.320
<v Speaker 1>really sure if you have A pov or your takes

0:59:55.360 --> 0:59:58.560
<v Speaker 1>of your own because everyone else around, you you're teeing them.

0:59:58.640 --> 1:00:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Up you're, like do you think about? This oh, yeah

1:00:01.640 --> 1:00:08.000
<v Speaker 1>what about? This so now anyone who enjoys this, pod

1:00:09.520 --> 1:00:12.240
<v Speaker 1>they have nothing to. Say the only reason it's funny

1:00:12.600 --> 1:00:17.560
<v Speaker 1>is Because i'm. Funny if you like the, take it's my.

1:00:17.800 --> 1:00:21.240
<v Speaker 1>TAKE i THINK i said this in a prior, episode

1:00:21.280 --> 1:00:26.560
<v Speaker 1>BUT I i love to, collaborate BUT i want everyone

1:00:26.600 --> 1:00:30.800
<v Speaker 1>to know That I'm i'm that, guy the guy That

1:00:30.840 --> 1:00:34.600
<v Speaker 1>Donovan mitchell clearly is. NOT i want everyone to KNOW

1:00:34.640 --> 1:00:37.000
<v Speaker 1>i can put the cinder blocks on my back and

1:00:37.080 --> 1:00:39.920
<v Speaker 1>walk up the mountain alone Because i'm built like. That

1:00:40.160 --> 1:00:42.400
<v Speaker 1>and if you don't like MY, pov there's no one

1:00:42.400 --> 1:00:45.320
<v Speaker 1>else to blame but. Me you don't like, it, cool

1:00:45.480 --> 1:00:47.840
<v Speaker 1>but it's mine HOW i built, it and no one.

1:00:47.840 --> 1:00:52.000
<v Speaker 2>Else's, okay who's your all time favorite?

1:00:52.040 --> 1:00:57.600
<v Speaker 1>Athlete did you see? This Scottie? Pippen there was a

1:00:57.640 --> 1:00:59.960
<v Speaker 1>clip that just came out the other. Day Scotty pippen

1:01:00.160 --> 1:01:05.760
<v Speaker 1>hits he's shooting free throws in the early. Nineties he

1:01:06.040 --> 1:01:08.760
<v Speaker 1>misses a free throw and before you can even know

1:01:08.840 --> 1:01:12.040
<v Speaker 1>what's going, On Michael jordan comes out of the sky

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<v Speaker 1>and slams it down with a fever that you've never,

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<v Speaker 1>seen and you're, like, Holy, holy what was? That and

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<v Speaker 1>that is something that got me thinking About. Jordan WHY

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<v Speaker 1>i thought he's so WHY i think he's so. Great

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<v Speaker 1>he was one of those guys who was not enough

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<v Speaker 1>for him to dominate. You it was not enough for

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<v Speaker 1>him to show you how good he. Was he needed

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<v Speaker 1>to embarrass you on all, levels at all the. Time

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter if it's the third game of the

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<v Speaker 1>season or in The Western Conference finals against The, blazers

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<v Speaker 1>which that was against The. Blazers that, game he needed

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<v Speaker 1>you to know that there is no. Shot you aren't

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<v Speaker 1>even on my level in any, way not in, rebounds not,

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<v Speaker 1>defending not in, dougs not in, shooting. Nothing don't even

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<v Speaker 1>get that into your. Head he, is to, me the

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<v Speaker 1>origin story Of Kobe bryant And Lebron james and so many. Others,

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<v Speaker 1>SEE i think you have to, say for anyone who

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<v Speaker 1>grew up playing, basketball that your all time favorite athlete

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<v Speaker 1>has gotta Be Michael, jordan or it's sacrilegious to a. Degree,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah would you.

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<v Speaker 2>AGREE i mean everyone our age just had. THAT i

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<v Speaker 2>mean if you say you, didn't you're. Lying LIKE i,

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<v Speaker 2>Mean Space jam all those. TITLES i, mean there was

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<v Speaker 2>something about him that was just excellent and you were

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<v Speaker 2>just drawn to.

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<v Speaker 1>It it's.

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<v Speaker 2>True, yeah if you could change any of YOUR Nba

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<v Speaker 2>league predictions after the first month in the, books would.

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<v Speaker 1>YOU i said very early on that The clippers were.

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<v Speaker 1>TRASH i think they've won thirteen games. Already they've just

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<v Speaker 1>been quietly, winning no. Drama it almost is like they don't.

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<v Speaker 1>EXIST i haven't watched a ton of their games because

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<v Speaker 1>it's on they're On Super. Late but they had a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of huge. Pickups they got this Guy Serge ibaka

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<v Speaker 1>who's really good friends With, Kawhi Leonard Nick, batoom WHO

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<v Speaker 1>i felt like was basically retired and on his last

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<v Speaker 1>leg and now he is back. Balling are they? CONTENDERS

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<v Speaker 1>i don't. Know wait and, see BUT i THINK i

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<v Speaker 1>was wrong about them falling, off having one of those

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<v Speaker 1>like we'll call it hangover seasons after you lose in

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<v Speaker 1>that fashion that you. Lost So i'm not a big

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<v Speaker 1>playoff p, fan pandemic p, fan as everyone, Knows so

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<v Speaker 1>wait and. See but IF i had to say one

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<v Speaker 1>team that has been a, surprise it would be The,

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<v Speaker 1>clippers which is crazy because the expectations were already so,

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<v Speaker 1>high but that's what hate will. Do what do you

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<v Speaker 1>think about The?

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<v Speaker 2>CLIPPERS i think they're.

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<v Speaker 1>Good.

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<v Speaker 2>Good this isn't like a groundbreaking, thing BUT i think they're.

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<v Speaker 2>Good we'll see it In May.

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<v Speaker 3>June.

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<v Speaker 1>Facts that's all the time that we have For This league.

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