1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:00,560 Speaker 1: Tuning in. 2 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 2: I love doing this every single week. One of my 3 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 2: favorite things I highlighted. I like, look, I look forward 4 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 2: to it. And of course we will get to your 5 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 2: questions and just a little bit of first we'll talk 6 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 2: our own about just what happened this week, and it'll 7 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 2: be coming up. So we got Kevin here, We've got Uli, 8 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 2: so we'll go to Kevin. 9 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: First. 10 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 2: You were in Tampa Bay and Saint Pete this week. 11 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 2: Tell us about that general experience and it was your 12 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 2: first time getting to see the Marls on the road 13 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 2: and covering on the road. That's all I'm familiar with. 14 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 2: But how was that experience for you? And just what 15 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: was that two game series? 16 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 3: Like? 17 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 4: It was great, It was really fun. I had an 18 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,919 Speaker 4: amazing time. Uh you would think that, you know, I 19 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 4: was going in, you know, with expectations pretty low with 20 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 4: when it comes to going into the trot just hearing 21 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 4: you know what you've heard before that it sucks, it's 22 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 4: not nice. 23 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: I liked it. 24 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 4: I really liked it. I thought it was in a stadium. 25 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 4: From the outside, it looks horrid, I'll tell you that much. 26 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 4: But from the inside, I mean, the press box is 27 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 4: really nice. They honored the team very well with the 28 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 4: many museum they have. It was a great experience overall. 29 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 4: And then when you go up you know on the 30 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 4: field play on the field that it was rough. For 31 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 4: the first game, obviously, Miami just wasn't able to get anything. 32 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: Going off with Tyler Glass. Now who I mean, you know, 33 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: usually there's. 34 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 4: Letter high at home or was entering to start. But 35 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 4: after dominant start against the Orioles, Uh, he dominated Miami 36 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 4: and I mean good. I mean he's he's a great 37 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 4: pitcher and mine. He was just not able to get 38 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 4: anything going. Even the day after the game and post games, 39 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 4: Skip was still talking about Glass on how good he 40 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 4: was so and then game two, obviously, I think the 41 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 4: story was simple. It was Sandy all contrad It's nine 42 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 4: in game. Man, he dominated him, man, I believe he 43 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 4: just gave up one home run, and he was really good. 44 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 4: I mean everything was working for him. Mechanics were good, 45 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 4: Villa was really good for and then obviously Stalling's going 46 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 4: out there another day after looking like he was injured, 47 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 4: and he had an injury I believe with his neck. 48 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: Kids. 49 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 4: Nick was all read the day after on post game 50 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 4: when we were talking to him and the bottom of 51 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 4: the order really getting it going. 52 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:02,559 Speaker 1: That's one thing that. 53 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 4: Stood out to me. I don't know if you know 54 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 4: stood out to you guys, but the bottom of the 55 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 4: order is kind of getting it going. So I I 56 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 4: really think that, you know, Miami's offense looked like what 57 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 4: it should have obviously lose. The Rise got two hundred 58 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 4: career RBIs so good for it on that end, and 59 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 4: it was a great game overall. That was a big, 60 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 4: big win. They really really viewed that one they needed 61 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 4: to win. This one's go into some with some type 62 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 4: of momentum. Noring Mickey, we can obviously they were able 63 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 4: to take two or three all, you know, despite that 64 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 4: being a pretty ugly series. 65 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: I couldn't get myself I needed. 66 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 2: But yes, I believe the I don't know if there's 67 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 2: such thing as a bad series win without any injuries, 68 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 2: but that was a pretty bad series win. 69 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: Definitely some very lucky moments today. 70 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 2: But going in the Tigers series real quick, just chomping 71 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 2: ahead here, the marvels of half a lot of really 72 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 2: really really stepped up. And you know, some of these guys, 73 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 2: depending on what happened in the next two. 74 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: Days, they may be out of a job. 75 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 2: Specifically Sigura at third, maybe Abvi as well, but they 76 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: all really really stepped up and kind of just should 77 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 2: their worth in offensively. This Marlins team has shown what 78 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 2: they could what they could be with them all at 79 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 2: their peaks. But this team is too streaky outside of 80 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 2: Luisa Riyes to to really put all that together at 81 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 2: one point and not so much just have that be 82 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 2: but the bank on it as well, and just very 83 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 2: very flawed series for sure. You know, starting pitching pretty 84 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,839 Speaker 2: well to day for the Lazaro standards, but he still 85 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 2: pitched a good game all things considered. But a J 86 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 2: Puff Man, well, I guess we'll jump to this already. 87 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 2: What has happened to aj Puff? The guy has been 88 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 2: the worst reliever in baseball since the month of May began. 89 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 2: I mean, the guy is just terrible. We'll look at 90 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: Ui here. What exactly has happened to AJ Putt? And 91 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 2: even he got moved up into more of a medium 92 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 2: leverage spot today the seventh and it got him out 93 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 2: of his final two innings and give him a chance 94 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 2: to potentially save the game. 95 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: What has happened to this guy? 96 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 5: I would say, in particular, it's been this month of July. 97 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 5: It was that final week before the All Star break 98 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 5: where things went bad where It's not that he didn't 99 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 5: have a couple of bad games earlier than that, but 100 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 5: those that's when he started to get hit hard. I mean, 101 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 5: it's one thing if occasionally he walks better or occasionally 102 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 5: a couple of balls in play don't go his way, 103 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 5: but he's been getting hit so hard over almost the 104 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 5: last month now, and it's been happening in so many 105 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 5: important situations too. There's some guys where it's kind of 106 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 5: a cliche that if you put a closer in non 107 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 5: save situations then that you don't perform the same. But 108 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,799 Speaker 5: with him, it's been it's been everything. It's been saved situations, 109 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 5: it's been tie games, it's been now that he's out 110 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 5: of the closer's role, it's been in a setup situation. 111 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 5: And I think there was even one time where he 112 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 5: came in with the team trailing and even struggled to 113 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 5: get through that ending. Yeah, he is just lost right now. 114 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 5: And it's I mean, it's one thing when the guy 115 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 5: is not on top of your game and he falls 116 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 5: down in the hierarchy of the bullpen, but he is 117 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 5: the least effective pitcher on this entire pitching. 118 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 6: Staff right now. 119 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 5: He should not be pitching in any consequential situations at all, 120 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 5: Like anybody you can think of on this active roster 121 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 5: at the moment should be in the game before he is, 122 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 5: because this is this is a severe issue. This is him, 123 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 5: especially today, going up against some not particularly potent hitters 124 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 5: and they're sitting the ball off of him, and they're 125 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 5: hitting the ball both his fastball and his sweeper. It's 126 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 5: really been both of those pitches have been in issues 127 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 5: for him, and it hasn't the one thing that I 128 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 5: think a couple of his worst moments have come against 129 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 5: right handed batters. But then today, what even drives the 130 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 5: point home about how much is struggling is when he 131 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 5: gets hit by a lefty. It was Carrie Carpenter that 132 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 5: was the one that delivered the big hit with the 133 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 5: bases loaded. A lefty on left he matchup and a 134 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 5: sweeper in that matchup, and I got to see what 135 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 5: the count was. 136 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 6: I think it may have been. Yeah, it was on 137 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 6: a first pitch. I think he got him on. 138 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 5: It is falling apart every which way for him. There's 139 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 5: no pattern to it. The only thing is he's been 140 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 5: consistently terrible in his appearances and until they need to 141 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 5: do something to strain it out. There's something fundamentally wrong 142 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 5: with the way that he's finishing his pitches. He's not 143 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 5: putting them in the spots he wants them to and 144 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 5: even when he thinks he is, it's not playing the 145 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 5: same it's not getting swings and misses, it's not getting 146 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 5: weak contact. And thankfully they acted a little quickly. They 147 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 5: didn't wait until the deadline to make reliever moves. They 148 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 5: made to them in advance. That was a bright spot 149 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 5: of the series is that Lopez and Robertson combined for 150 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 5: three appearances, three scoreless appearances during the course of this weekend, 151 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 5: and they need both of them to finish off this 152 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 5: game on Sunday. That makes a difference, and that's because 153 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 5: of the severity of Puck's struggles. I think that pushed 154 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 5: the team to act five or six days earlier than 155 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 5: they would have otherwise, because he is It really has 156 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 5: been a dramatic fall for him. Unfortunately, they need to 157 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 5: go back to the drawing board with him, and in 158 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 5: the meantime, I would hope that Skip recognizes the how 159 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 5: recognizes the reality of the situation that everybody else in 160 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 5: the meantime should be pitching in situations ahead of aj 161 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 5: Buck when the game is on the line. 162 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: So I guess I'll present to scenarios here. Would you 163 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: guys say it's more feasible to bring someone up from. 164 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 2: A right now or try and to see if you 165 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 2: can go get another reliever despite the fact that the 166 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 2: relieve of markets but to get really really inflated with 167 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 2: the deadline right there, and to your point, Tomorrow's acted 168 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 2: pretty early. They got Robertson at a premium price that 169 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 2: was getting as early as possible. But which would you 170 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 2: guys put both you and and Kevin. 171 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 5: Say would be more peace Watch now, you're not treading 172 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 5: for another reliever, especially not another rental reliever right now. 173 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 5: You need those assets to address the starting rotation and 174 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 5: to address the lineup, or at least one of those two. 175 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 5: Andrew NRDI is coming back. We think on Tuesday he's 176 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 5: about to come back. And you look at the bullpen 177 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 5: depth chart when he returns on paper, I think you 178 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 5: have seven guys that you trust more than Puck and 179 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 5: it's a pretty deep bullpen. Thankfully, the big sigh of 180 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 5: relief this weekend was Tanner Scott because he strained his 181 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 5: calf and he's pitching less than two days later. I 182 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 5: can't remember seeing that before somebody diagnosed with a calf strain, 183 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 5: even if it's a mild one, and then coming back 184 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 5: and pitching and doing his job two days later. So 185 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 5: that was a huge cyber relief that he's still there. 186 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 5: In addition to him and Robertson and Lopez, you have Chagua, 187 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 5: Okurt Brazabon, and now that's an interesting choice between Soriano 188 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 5: now that I look at it, who is Yeah, they 189 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 5: have to choose between Brazabon and Soriano for the final 190 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 5: spot when Nardi comes back, and I think it's pretty 191 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 5: clear that Brazabon is gonna be the one they could 192 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 5: squeeze down for the moment. 193 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 6: Soriano has been great as. 194 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 5: Well recently, So yeah, you have seven guys ahead of 195 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 5: Puck in the hierarchy once that happens, including George Soriano 196 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 5: in my opinion. And it's a pretty good bullpen. It's 197 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 5: one with a decent amount of swing and miss, decent 198 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 5: amount of ground balls, and at the very top end 199 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 5: you have the guy that has been there and done 200 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 5: that before in Robertson, so to me, I would not 201 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 5: spend any more assets on relievers. You got to just 202 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 5: trust the guys that you have. There's some interesting names 203 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 5: in Triple A that could come up later in the year, 204 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 5: and now potentially you're squeezing Brasa Bond to Triple A. 205 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 5: And that's a guy that we know at certain times 206 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 5: has been immensely valuable to this team. 207 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 6: So I think the bullpen a set. 208 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: Shout out to release Soriano. 209 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 4: That guy, George Soriana has been amazing ever since he 210 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,359 Speaker 4: was called up, and he's been, you know, taking. 211 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: These long relief roles for the most part. Uh. 212 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 4: And I guess that was gonna be the that was 213 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 4: I guess that was gonna happen today since Tiger scored 214 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 4: four early runs. I guess they were just gonna give 215 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 4: Srianna some long relief. And I guess Miami came back 216 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 4: and I think things changed there and that's why they 217 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 4: put Puck in. But man, this guy has been so good. 218 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 4: One nine eight e r A that's I believe that's 219 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 4: what it is at right now. And this guy's really good. 220 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 4: That Slider Eli was highlighting it today that you know, 221 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 4: even when it when it's middle middle, it's still very 222 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 4: good and it gets it generates swifts and swings and 223 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 4: it's such a good pitch, I you know, and I 224 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 4: Isaac always says that he has a better slide than 225 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 4: Max Miyd. 226 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: He really may. I mean, that's how it's that good. 227 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: But we'll see. I like Storriana, I want to give 228 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: it more high leverage. 229 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 4: I think today we kind of saw it kind of, 230 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 4: I guess you could say, with how things turned out 231 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 4: where Miami went, you know, back and. 232 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: We scored four runs in that case. 233 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 4: But we'll see what happens. I do think I would 234 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 4: like to see him like some seven thinning roles for now. 235 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 4: But if he continues to do what he's doing, he's 236 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 4: he deserves a. 237 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: Lot of credit for what he's been doing. 238 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 4: And I'm a big George Sorriana Good has been a 239 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 4: big George story on since like I think two years now, 240 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 4: So shout out to him for what he's been doing. 241 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: And obviously, I mean he. 242 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 4: Was the big part of today's when holding, you know, 243 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 4: the lete holding. 244 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: Given Miami a chance to come back and do something, 245 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: and obviously that happened today. I agree you know, I 246 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 1: had a pretty good lead and talking about the assets here. 247 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 2: We'll get to our trade in my time, because I'm 248 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 2: sure every question Night would probably get is going to 249 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 2: be traded for. 250 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: Later, which is good. That's what we want. 251 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 2: Love talking about trade. I know some of us here 252 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 2: I questioned on first said last night trade talks starting 253 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 2: to get exhaustible. We're hearing to take a bit. It's 254 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 2: a very interesting that line. Don't know what's gonna happen, 255 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 2: but the lack of sellers and the. 256 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: Moment of of buyers. So Bullpen seems to be set. 257 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 1: Marlin's got two arms. 258 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 2: A lot of us said they probably need to go 259 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 2: get one maybe two arms. 260 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: I guess they technically, I mean they got. 261 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 2: Too, but they had to trade one to get it. 262 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 2: So it's a net game of one arm and Lady's 263 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 2: coming back this week Bullpen and theory should be pretty good. 264 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 2: Love what we saw from David Roberts in the day. 265 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 2: By the way, I definitely thought he was gonna blow up. 266 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: The safe, just because it's a very Martlin sting that 267 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: to do. But he did it, so that's good. 268 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 2: But two needs definitely stand out for the Marrows still, 269 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 2: I think one is probably more likely. 270 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: To get than the other. 271 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 2: Dispoint, and the more likely option would be back in 272 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 2: starting a picture for the rotation to eat some innings. 273 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: Definitely seems like that's coming. 274 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 2: The question is who Jordan Montgomery has been taken off 275 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,719 Speaker 2: the board. He's a Texas Ranger backers got traded, but 276 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 2: that was never happening, so I don't know why I 277 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 2: even mentioned him. Burlander also will not be happening. The 278 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 2: Cubs are not selling some noose from and the other 279 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 2: thing I said that to Marrow need is definitely a 280 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 2: middle of the order back means Belloper will not happen. 281 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: So the Cubs are out of the seller's market. 282 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 2: It's getting pretty slim in terms of sellers, and so 283 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 2: teams are going to overpay for some guys. But I 284 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 2: really thought about it today after watching the yesterday's offense, especially, 285 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 2: I might be okay with Kim overpaying for particular players, 286 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 2: and one of those being Kindelario out of. 287 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: Washington, DC. He might be the best. 288 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 2: Available bat on the market to this point. Definitely what 289 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 2: the Marlins need. The report is also out there at 290 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:38,719 Speaker 2: the Marlins are pushed a card for flavored tourists, but 291 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 2: the asking price is too much New York meda kind 292 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 2: of move that one out of proportion. I don't expected 293 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 2: to happen, but for the deadline, expect the unexpected. 294 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,199 Speaker 1: So turn it to you, guys. 295 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 2: What do you guys think is the most likely thing 296 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 2: to happen with this deadline? Is any general thoughts about 297 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 2: what's been out there on Twitter. 298 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: Rumors just singing that nature? 299 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 4: Well literally, I think like a before we started, they 300 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 4: put out the Jack Flaherty one, so I guess we 301 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 4: could go into that one. Obviously, we saw them today 302 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 4: the Cardinals trade away Jordan Montcomery for a couple of 303 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 4: prospects and none of the Rangers also got reliever Chris Stratton, 304 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 4: I believe, so I guess that was I guess why 305 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 4: we saw the trade that. 306 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: They made today. Fluridy is all right. 307 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 4: I mean he's at a pretty good year e r 308 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 4: A four four three, fifth, four two three not the 309 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 4: nicest things to see, but I mean, aside from that, 310 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 4: still guy, he's gonna eat you innings and get. 311 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: Some good outs. I believe it started. Miami was one 312 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,359 Speaker 1: of the better ones this season. He went six and 313 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: six and two thirds. He struck out five and him 314 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: allow and earned run only walk. 315 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 4: Too, So yeah, I guess if you want to use 316 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 4: that into any account. 317 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: But aside from that. 318 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 4: I think, really that's if I'm correctly thinking, that made 319 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 4: me probably one of the last options available unless you 320 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 4: want to go to Oakland and just at this point 321 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 4: just take the fly on Paul Blackburn. But aside from that, 322 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 4: I think filherity is to move here. If you're looking 323 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 4: at starting pit again, I'm blanking out on other than 324 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 4: Angel Lorenzo still on the board there, so we'll see 325 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 4: what happens there. And yeah, so Lorenzen's there. You also 326 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 4: have Edward Rodriguez if you want to, you know, take him. 327 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 4: He's out a nice year and obviously a jack player. 328 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 4: So those are the three pictures I would be looking 329 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 4: at right now. 330 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 5: So yeah, I believe that the Marlins are really trying 331 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 5: to figure out some creative packages here with with Flaherty. 332 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 5: We've talked about Michael or lower Lorenzen before, with guys 333 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 5: like this that are rentals and also starters, that this 334 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 5: team is not going to really have any interest in 335 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 5: trying to bid to re sign in free agency. You're 336 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 5: not comfortable giving up one of your better prospects, which 337 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 5: is what they're going to have to do for a 338 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 5: decent starting picture. You're not as comfortable doing that if 339 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 5: it's only that picture on his own. And so that's 340 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 5: what the Cardinals have been naturally mentioned as a fit 341 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 5: because they also have a lot of bats that are 342 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 5: movable and the one like, yeah, the lower level package, 343 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 5: i'd say, the basic package that I think could make 344 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 5: a pretty decent difference but also is manageable for the 345 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 5: Marlins would be getting Flaherty and somebody like Paul Deyong, 346 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 5: who's having much better season and who I think is 347 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 5: a club option for next year in the year beyond that, 348 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 5: but he's a potential free agent unless he unless he 349 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 5: really goes off late this year, that'd be again they 350 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 5: declined the option. He's just a rental, but he would 351 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 5: really raise the floor of you know, their offense a 352 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 5: little bit on that left side of the infield. Today 353 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 5: excluding today, you know, Sigura is just not going to 354 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 5: give you any power there. Today was kind of an 355 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 5: anomaly from him, And defensively it's really not getting. 356 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 6: Much better from him either at a third base. 357 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 5: So when you get somebody like de Young, either he 358 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 5: plays shortstop and you move you know, Birdie and Wendell 359 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 5: to third more often, or you know, I think even 360 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 5: to Young himself could play third base. There's a couple 361 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 5: different things they could do there, but they do need 362 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 5: some help on the infield. You know, today is really 363 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 5: the anomaly to have home runs from both Cooper and 364 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 5: from Segura. That's not going to happen very often. That 365 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 5: might never happen again the rest of the year. To 366 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 5: have both of them at the exact same time do that, 367 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 5: that's the missing component of this offense is power from 368 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 5: their infield. They've put out the stats before where compared 369 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 5: to the Braves, the Braves have like individual guys on 370 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 5: their infield who have homewared more often than every single 371 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 5: Marlins infielder combined. It's just it's not sustainable and it 372 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 5: hasn't really sustained to this point. It's been a bad 373 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 5: offensive team for the most part, and I think that's 374 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 5: the main deficiency that they address. 375 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 6: So they could do that with a. 376 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 5: Package like that, and Condolarreo is again the one really 377 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 5: obvious fit. You know, there's nothing too bold about it, 378 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 5: but there are so many teams interested in him that 379 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 5: just to get him alone is going to cost quite 380 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 5: a bit in terms. 381 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 6: Of prospect capital. 382 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 5: And you look at that Nationals roster and there's not 383 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 5: a whole lot of appealing supplementary pieces on their roster 384 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 5: that you would even want in a package for there, 385 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 5: So I think that's going to come into the calculus 386 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 5: as well. Feel like they could get more shopping done 387 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 5: in one spot with the Cardinals, then I think that 388 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 5: is slightly more likely than them getting Conde Larrio. 389 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,360 Speaker 6: I just feel like they would lose They well, they 390 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 6: I think they are. 391 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 5: I think they're trying to bid for Candelario, but I 392 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 5: think it's going to reach a point where it's just 393 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 5: not feasible for them to give up what the Nationals 394 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 5: ultimately want for him, and that I think the Cardinals 395 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 5: are a more likely way to go there. 396 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 2: I did put out there in a tweet that some 397 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 2: newspaper Saint Louis had said that there has been a 398 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:35,360 Speaker 2: multitude of scouts in their stadium as a late. 399 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 1: Marl ThReD there. 400 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 2: But that's kind of typical, especially as time. Your guys 401 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 2: are always scouting me. It is their job to scout 402 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 2: these guys. But I did see that a New Sellers 403 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 2: kind of hit the market today. 404 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: I mean kind of suspected that maybe they. 405 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 2: Sell off their sellable assets. But when there was a name, 406 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 2: I was a little surprising. There the Mariners, they did say, 407 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 2: pay Oscar Hernandez. 408 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: Is for sale. He's a free agent at the end 409 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: of the year. He's in his file year of arbitration 410 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: right now. Kind of suspect if you could get traded. 411 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 2: I suggested that privately amongst us a while back, but 412 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 2: everyone said no, just because there's not really a fit, 413 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 2: which is understandable. But ty France has been made available, 414 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 2: which was one I did not really expect. But with 415 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 2: the way that Garren Cooper has been playing as of late, 416 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,719 Speaker 2: and the news that the Marrows were in on Carlos Santana, 417 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 2: another first baseman, ty France or anyone on Seattle's roster. 418 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: Be an option. I know some of you listeners such suggests, 419 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: maybe they're in you know, Suarez. 420 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 2: And try and get them to eat there a little 421 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 2: bit of the contract in Seattle. 422 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 1: But I don't know how the Marrows could pull that 423 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: one off. 424 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 2: But what are your guys' thoughts of what Seattle might 425 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 2: have the opera and if they could become a surprise 426 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 2: seller here in the next couple of. 427 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 6: Days, I did mention them. 428 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 5: I think last week I circled Paul Seawald as one 429 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 5: of the mighty relievers that I liked, somebody that has 430 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 5: a lot in common with David Robertson at this point, 431 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 5: and as I mentioned before, I don't think think they 432 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 5: now are interested in going that far for another righty reliever, 433 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 5: but that was one that I thought was. 434 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 6: A really interesting fit. 435 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 5: And unlike Robertson, he is the guy that had a 436 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 5: year of control remaining beyond this year. So I'm curious 437 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 5: to see, I'm curious to wonder, I hang on how 438 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 5: far those conversations may have gotten on Seawald type. 439 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 6: France is not. 440 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 5: I mean, he's having a worse year than Cooper is, 441 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 5: or roughly as bad. He's the guy that obviously was 442 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 5: very good as of last year, but so was Cooper 443 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 5: as of last year. 444 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 6: And as an. 445 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 5: Overall player, I like him a little bit more. And 446 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 5: of course the big factor is he's controllable beyond this year. 447 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 5: He is for twenty twenty four and twenty twenty five 448 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 5: via arbitration, and he does have some versatility to play 449 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 5: other infield positions, so that itself is a little useful 450 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 5: when we're talking about third base just a moment ago. 451 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 5: France is somebody who came up originally as that I 452 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,199 Speaker 5: think being his primary spot, and I would think that 453 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 5: he could still play there in emergencies or even more 454 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 5: often than that, so with somebody to keep in mind. 455 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 5: He just has not been performing this year, so I 456 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 5: don't know why you really go too far to get him, 457 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 5: considering that, especially of late, is when he's really fallen off. 458 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 5: You know, for most of the year it was he 459 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 5: was kind of in the range of his career norms. 460 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 5: But this last month for France, that's been a disaster. 461 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 5: So i'd be up to the Marlins to take a 462 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 5: really close look at him and see if they can 463 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 5: figure something they have an adjustment in mind on the 464 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 5: fly for him. Otherwise I don't really see that as 465 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 5: a fit. I think you had to get even more creative. 466 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 6: On their roster. 467 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 5: I like the idea of Auhenio Suarez more because he 468 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 5: has the bigger raw power over there. He's the guy 469 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 5: that's really good in scoring situations, and he's he's in 470 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 5: a more natural third basement than even Frances that's the 471 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 5: one that I'm not all that sure if he'd be 472 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 5: available for them. Yeah, that's a little trickier because of 473 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 5: the money that he's still owed, but also the fact 474 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 5: that the Mariners offense on its own is a little 475 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 5: shaky moving forward like that. 476 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 6: They don't want to They're not in. 477 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 5: A position where they're super excited to trade away bats 478 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 5: that are under contract, knowing that they'll need those guys 479 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 5: next year to have a chance. 480 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 6: So yeah, So that's. 481 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 5: One that I don't know is if he's quite as 482 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 5: available at this moment. But Suarez would be to me 483 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 5: a better fit for the Marlins team right now than 484 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 5: France would be. 485 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, you. 486 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 4: Know, I was looking out the stats and and man, 487 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 4: France has been struggling this past month, that he's hitting 488 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 4: under two hundred. It's it's not good. I think right now, 489 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 4: if you're looking at Seattle that they need. 490 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: To look at his Gno. Is that you Hano Suarez. 491 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 1: So I think that's the name to look at for Seattle. Obviously. 492 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 4: I think the other name I saw pop up, and 493 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 4: I have to look back. I think the last name 494 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 4: is for it was their catcher and he has been 495 00:22:58,520 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 4: pretty damn good for them. 496 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go look now, uh, Mike Ford. 497 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 5: I believe Mike Ford is not a catcher. Mike Ford 498 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 5: is a DH and it's an emergency first baseman. 499 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 1: All right. 500 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, so Mike Ford was the name I saw, I 501 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 4: think on Twitter the other day. He's playing pretty well 502 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,360 Speaker 4: one thirty w orc plus but doesn't get on base 503 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 4: too much, strikes out at a higher rate. 504 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: So that's the name I saw. I saw someone pop 505 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:25,239 Speaker 1: it up. 506 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 4: I don't know exactly who, but I'll go I'll have 507 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 4: to find that one soon. 508 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, that's the name I heard. I would like. 509 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 4: I like called cal Rawley. Obviously twenty six years old. 510 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 4: You have, I believe their top prospect coming up soon, so. 511 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: He's got out nine years of control. I don't think 512 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 1: they'll train. Yeah, but this guy's twenty six grand I mean, 513 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: just think of it like that. I mean, it would 514 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: be a peak value, but I don't. 515 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 2: Like how much tomorrows would have to give up to 516 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 2: get them. That would be pretty expensive, given the fact 517 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 2: that the catcher market is quite literally non existent, out 518 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 2: of the cups start selling, it's like alias he isn't. 519 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 4: I think that's it? Yeah, I mean, that was just 520 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 4: his names. I'm looking out, you know, on Seattle. But 521 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 4: aside from that, I think I think Gino's the way 522 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 4: to go here. 523 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: I can't think of another name, and. 524 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 4: I know Romo is gonna say it was a cavaliero 525 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 4: who's his boy? 526 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: But uh, you know, I think once we. 527 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 2: Wrap up, we'll have to bring in Romeo. And he's 528 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 2: already requested and he lost the possibility of He lost 529 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 2: it because I don't think the Marls are making any 530 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 2: more trade. He also kind of got his coats and 531 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 2: dreams crushed by Craig last week. But it really doesn't 532 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 2: make that much sense for the Rockies to the trade 533 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 2: of at disappoint at least unless someone overpays out the plazoo. 534 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean it's it's getting interesting. We won't 535 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: yap about trades much more. I want to clost to 536 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: what you guys. 537 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 2: Have to say, and we'll tell you if someone's possible 538 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 2: or not. Any positions doesn't need ways to attack it. 539 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 2: Put some trade packages, but real quick, we'll preview the 540 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 2: week ahead. It could look the lot different this time 541 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 2: next week. 542 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: It couldn't look a whole. 543 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 2: Lot different this time next week. But where the schedule 544 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 2: starts to get really, really, really tough games. Set against 545 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 2: the Phillies, I believe is the most important series of 546 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 2: the year. Marlin's played in this Phillies very well as 547 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 2: of late and taking three out of four. It's the 548 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 2: Phillies would be massive in the wild card race. To 549 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 2: need to split would help you tread water. I think 550 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 2: all the Marlins really have to do is just go 551 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 2: five hundred from here on out, and their name is 552 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 2: fair in the conversation. Some of these teams are sure 553 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 2: to fall off, especially with flagged teams not. 554 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: Really making too many moves. 555 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 2: I think if the Reds don't go trade for a 556 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 2: picture the next two days, they are going to completely fall. 557 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: Off the face of the year. 558 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 2: The Giants probably need some help, the Diamondbacks probably need 559 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 2: some help. But then this weekend, very very tough series. 560 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 2: It's the most aggressive team at the deadline so far. 561 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 2: Texas Rangers very very nervous about that one. I think 562 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 2: after these two trades and depending on what they do 563 00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 2: the next couple of days, I think they may be 564 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 2: my new al winner selection. I've got the Braves one 565 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 2: in the World Series, no matter. A lot of display, 566 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 2: but the Rangers is pretty nice right now, and the 567 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 2: Marns have to go there for a three games SAT 568 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 2: this week, and so anything you. 569 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: Guys want to point out in terms of the correct 570 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 1: roster and what's live ahead this week. Tough week Philly, Philly. 571 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: Just I think they got walked off today by the Pirates, 572 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: if that's correct. So good for Miami. They're coming off 573 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: the loss against Pittsburgh. 574 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 4: But you have Edwards, Sandy Brax, and Johnny Quato going 575 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 4: for for them. 576 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: For Miami this week, and then you got it based. 577 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 4: I guess that top of the Phillies pitching status to 578 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 4: what Ragas Swarzak willing on Aaron Ola and ty Walker. 579 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 1: So that first game tyan Walker game won. So tough game. 580 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 4: I believe when Philly came down here, Miami was fairly competitive. 581 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 4: If I'm correct, they may have taken to our three. 582 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 4: But overall, you need to take this This. 583 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: Is a huge game. As you said, Grant this, I 584 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: think this game means more than what's coming up for 585 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: the team after that, just given how how much implications 586 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: this has on it and a wildcard race. 587 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 4: Because after this, after Tuesday, we're not gonna be talking 588 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 4: about you know, This is an important game for the deadline. 589 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: We're gonna be talking about. This is an important game. 590 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 4: For the wildcard race and where Miami finishes if they 591 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 4: end up making the phone the postseason. So that's how 592 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 4: I see if we're at moving forward, Miami has finished, 593 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 4: you know, put themselves in that buyer's market, and I 594 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 4: think we should be talking more about how much this 595 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 4: implicates for that wildcard because you would love to see 596 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 4: a wildcard again play here in Miami, and that's where 597 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 4: they make the push for that first wall card, which 598 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 4: they stood at for a long long time. 599 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: So let's see if I mistaken. 600 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 4: I mean they they were able to beat Philly last 601 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 4: season here opening week, you're able to take three at four, I. 602 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: Believe against them, and hopefully they can do it again. 603 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 4: So I m usually, first of all, decently well against Philly, 604 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 4: So it should be a really good series. And I 605 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 4: know Miami would have can that get I think it 606 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 4: was taking to three just a couple of weeks ago. 607 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 1: Before them Christian Pusher hit the homer on a hook 608 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: and real. 609 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 2: Quick before again elisot to do on a point out 610 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 2: what you did say that, Yeah, whatever happens this weekend, 611 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 2: kind of happens, but you definitely got to get some 612 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 2: up on the Phillies. I think as long as you 613 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 2: escape Arlington, Texas. 614 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: With one win, I we have well. 615 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 2: Even if you lose two out of three, I think 616 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 2: I'd be happy depending on what happens against the Phillies. 617 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 2: Take three out of fourgans the Phillies or smooth scaling. 618 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 2: You can before to lose the Ranger series as long 619 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 2: as you don't get the swept that after that and 620 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 2: we want to really look ahead, and they go to Cincinnati, 621 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 2: which I think the Marlins would match up a lot 622 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 2: better with the Reds, and they did earlier in the 623 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 2: season back on both teams that really had in the 624 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 2: playoff aspirations. The Reds were rebuild vote and the Reds 625 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 2: to a three against the Marlins. 626 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: So I think this time around it's. 627 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 2: Going to go a little bit different. I do think 628 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 2: the Marlins would probably beat up on the Reds this time. 629 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 2: But you can't look too far ahead. I guess is 630 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 2: that in this trying to play head the head mapups, 631 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 2: But it is definitely true. Satan say the marl tab 632 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 2: on very very tough road ahead if you want to 633 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 2: even looking further past the red you got Yankee. 634 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: After his doggers back and back to back. So, Eli, 635 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: what do you think about this week coming ahead? 636 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 5: I think you have been talking about this for a 637 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 5: long time, you mister look ahead to the tough part 638 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 5: of the schedule. 639 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 6: It's finally here. 640 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 5: We finally reached a point where it's Yeah, the competition 641 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 5: is as tough as anybody. I think statistically, the strength 642 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 5: of schedule for the Marlins in August and beyond is 643 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 5: as tough as any other team in baseball. This is 644 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 5: where they get tested. And I got a message from 645 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 5: all of our followers, Chris Meola and you one't need 646 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 5: to kind of just address the reality that this Marlin 647 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 5: seem even though they've been winning games. I think anybody 648 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 5: looking at objectively would say teams that they're neck and 649 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 5: neck with in this wild card race, and probably the 650 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 5: Phillies more so than all them. Those teams have superior 651 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 5: overall talents in depth to this point. I think the Phillies, 652 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 5: for one, they do, especially when it starts at their rotation. 653 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 5: Their rotation is deeper than the Marlins, or at least 654 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 5: deeper in guys that you would trust the rest of 655 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 5: this year, whereas The Marlins have a couple of young 656 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 5: guys that you don't know exactly what you're going to 657 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 5: get from them as they reach endings totals that they've 658 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 5: never pitched before, but going yeah, going all the way 659 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 5: through their lineup and the all the way from the 660 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 5: top to the bottom of their lineup, they have guys 661 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 5: that can do damage on this Phillies team. And they've 662 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 5: reached this point even with some guys that are been 663 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 5: underperforming for them to this point in the year, Like, 664 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 5: this is where things get really tested. This is where 665 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 5: the Marlins magic to this point in the season where 666 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 5: it's going to be really hard for them to fake 667 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 5: it and to get past these games against teams that 668 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 5: have really deep rosters, against teams that can like. 669 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 6: Shut you down. 670 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 5: There are flute games like yesterday where the Marlins get 671 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 5: shut down in a bullpen game, but there are also 672 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 5: certain matchups and like the being one of them, that 673 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 5: they have actual like starting pitching talent that could really 674 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 5: silence this team for an extended period of time. This 675 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 5: is yeah, this is where you're really tested, where thankfully 676 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 5: they've made some moves to this point, but it's all 677 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,479 Speaker 5: these other teams are about to face all these other 678 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 5: teams are going to be buying over the next couple 679 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 5: days as well. The Phillies are going to add to 680 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 5: their roster. That's the one guarantee with Dave Dombrowski as 681 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 5: your GM, They're going to continue adding talent. The Rangers 682 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 5: have been have been the team that work good as 683 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 5: they were, and yet they've made as many They've done 684 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 5: more than any other team in baseball so far during 685 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 5: this deadline season to continue to like build up talent 686 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 5: on their team. We'll see if Shurzer lines up to 687 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 5: face the Marlins during that series. I'd say it's a 688 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 5: pretty good chance that he does. At some point. 689 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 6: They're going against. 690 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 5: Teams that are already good and that are going to 691 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 5: continue to get better. And for this Marlins team that 692 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 5: they're making the moves that they have the capital to make. 693 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 5: But also there's going to be so reliant on these 694 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 5: guys coming back from injury from for Avi and for Jazz, 695 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 5: They're gonna be so reliant on those guys to be 696 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 5: the best versions of themselves. So far, so good with 697 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 5: Avi and with Jazz. We think that's just any day 698 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 5: now that he'll be back as well, that those guys 699 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 5: are going to be so crucial to this Marlins team, 700 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 5: just because in Jazz in particular, there's nobody on nobody 701 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 5: available on the trademarket offensively that as an overall position 702 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 5: player that I think is going to be as impactful 703 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 5: as simply getting Jazz back into the mix. So a 704 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 5: lot of things are gonna have to go right for 705 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 5: this team to make the playoffs, and it is a possibility. 706 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 5: But yeah, they're simply going to have to play better 707 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 5: than they have to this point in the season. Even 708 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 5: though it feels like they've overachieved, they are going to 709 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 5: have to dig down deep and perform even better moving forward. 710 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 4: So for Fangrovs, Themorlands are going to have the Face 711 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 4: in Texas, Montgomery Dunny, our favorite guy Dunning and John Gray, 712 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 4: So they would for now escape a schurch obviously that 713 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 4: that could change any minute, but that's what it looks like, 714 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 4: and it would be Zardo Kabura sanity for that serious. 715 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 4: So I think Face had. 716 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 2: Yuri starting this week, So yeah, I know I would 717 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,719 Speaker 2: look at it with the like grain assault. You know, 718 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 2: I want my guys Dane Dunning man that that's my 719 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 2: main guy, Ricky, that's all you know, I love. 720 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: Dane dunning Man, what a guy. 721 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 2: All right, that's not plus unless say, you guys have 722 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 2: party thoughts interrupting, But we're gonna go band questions. 723 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: Now. 724 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 2: Waited a little lawyer to do it today, but I've 725 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 2: been very, very excited. I want to hear your thoughts 726 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 2: about the trade market and what the rest of the 727 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 2: season hasn't. 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Might be a little 745 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 1: too late to catch up to the top of the leader. 746 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 2: Board now, but next year if you win, you get 747 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 2: a pretty cool prize. Our guy Daniel Rodriguez last year 748 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 2: got a cool Williams Zeo shirt and. 749 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 1: He still raps a lot, so definitely worth it. And 750 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: you can also get the game those for every game. 751 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 2: I call it the Marlins Bible, all sorts of great 752 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 2: information there. I will definitely be looking forward to reading 753 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 2: those in a couple of weeks when the Marlin's come 754 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 2: to my hometown Cincinnati. 755 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: I will be there about the credential email today, by 756 00:34:58,120 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 1: the way. But the reason why we bring. 757 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,280 Speaker 2: This up during new spaces because one of the benefits 758 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 2: also is you get first priority to speak in these 759 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 2: spaces and it really came through last week if you 760 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,879 Speaker 2: were here listening to Craig and you got your question 761 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 2: in the Craig. It definitely pays for itself. Again, it's 762 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,359 Speaker 2: a basic three dollars a month. If you're feeling gener 763 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 2: so you can donate more. Most of the super subscribers 764 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 2: do don any more, so we appreciate all of you 765 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 2: guys who have already done it. If you're even thinking 766 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,720 Speaker 2: about it, it's gonna fish on first time. It should 767 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 2: be in the tab be like maybe direct you. So 768 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 2: we're bringing in Romeo and now and again. Any one 769 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 2: of you guys can request to speak in the space. 770 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 2: You don't have to be a super subscriber. 771 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 1: We want to hear from. 772 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 2: Everyone, whether you're a marvelin stage, a baseball manager, our world, 773 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 2: baseball fans first and foremost. 774 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 1: So Romeo Eleson here, let's hear it tonight. No, justin 775 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 1: morn so it will not be a marl on teams. 776 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 3: Rome Wait before Romeo does anything, Romeo, I have to 777 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 3: apologize to you. I meant to come back in and 778 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,360 Speaker 3: give you a high five earlier today and I and 779 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 3: I apologize. 780 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: It's all right. 781 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 7: I only wanted to ask you how you're say was 782 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 7: all right? There you go, how you guys doing, first 783 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 7: and foremost happy Sunday? I joined like halfway through that 784 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:26,919 Speaker 7: stopped home from work. A name that is. 785 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 1: Kind of underrated. 786 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 7: I still don't think the Red Socks are going to 787 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 7: go far if I'm gonna be honest, even though they 788 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 7: got my favorite player in the league and Rothie Bevers. Uh, 789 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 7: Chris Martin is the name I feel like a two 790 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 7: year contract they're not. 791 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 3: They're not parting with him. Oh he's been too crucial 792 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 3: for them. They're not parting with him. 793 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I figure. But Lewis loves him though. I will 794 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 4: tell you Lewis is a big fan of him. That's 795 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 4: a great name to bring up, But I do think 796 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 4: that at this point, Boston, I think they'll try to 797 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 4: go for especially. 798 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 1: Now that the Yankees look like they're done. Gambles. 799 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not good. So you know, Uh, it's a 800 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 4: good name. I do agree with you. 801 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 1: It's a great name. 802 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,760 Speaker 4: Actually, I don't think he walks almost anybody. So that's 803 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 4: that's someone who we. 804 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 1: Were all I know, Eli Lewis and I when we 805 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 1: did the. 806 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 4: Off season videos with the shopping list, that was the 807 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 4: name that we had on there because it's just the 808 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 4: ability to strike out guys and just not walk guys 809 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 4: is huge. And you know when why is he not 810 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 4: walk He barely walks the guys. He walked like ten 811 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 4: guys from total last season. So that's a great, you know, 812 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 4: great name, But I just don't think he's getting dealt 813 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 4: this season. And if Boston doesn't go for him, he's 814 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:49,280 Speaker 4: gonna be crucial. As you know, I said, yeah, anything, 815 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:52,359 Speaker 4: how much. 816 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: I actually got to look at his contract. Hold on second, 817 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: I'm talking about it, Max Peler. I figure that he's 818 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 1: not going to be on that team either. 819 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 5: I just don't think they can afford the starter with 820 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,799 Speaker 5: that many years of control, meaning in terms of the 821 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 5: prospect capital would take to acquire Keller's He's had a 822 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 5: really good year. If he was somebody like this that 823 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 5: had one year of club control remaining or less, then maybe, 824 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 5: but it's going to be you have to take a 825 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 5: lot of creativity to get the value that the Pirates 826 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 5: want with him. I did see that they were willing 827 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 5: to listen on him, considering how many of the other 828 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,280 Speaker 5: starters on this market are rentals. You know, he would 829 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 5: he'd bring back a huge return. I feel like if 830 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 5: he was, they're really motivated to move him, they're just 831 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 5: going to get outbid. Like they just don't. I don't 832 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 5: know who would be the centerpiece going back to the 833 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 5: Pirates that can compete with a traditional top prospect that 834 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 5: this Marlins team just doesn't have at the moment. 835 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 836 00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 2: So on Mitch Keller wrote quick that my apologies had 837 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,839 Speaker 2: it takes a quick break, but I've formed the possibility 838 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 2: I almost wrote an artfull on him until. 839 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 1: I realize just how valuable he's gonna meet. That's a 840 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 1: high price to pay, like ELI said, But like deal 841 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 1: I said, you also get creative. Maybe if you pay 842 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,399 Speaker 1: that high price right now and you look at one 843 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 1: of the other starters the off season. 844 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 2: That's helping you don't really have to worry about, like 845 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 2: managing innings. 846 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:21,919 Speaker 1: Is that kind of thing. 847 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 2: Maybe you include one of the said package, preferably like 848 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,760 Speaker 2: ever Cabrera or Trempor Robbins, which. 849 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 1: I don't know what any of their but their values 850 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:39,360 Speaker 1: aren't display but it's a deep idea. Yeah, I figured that. 851 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 7: More people would be here and I could talk about 852 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,839 Speaker 7: next year, because it's never it's never not too late 853 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:44,799 Speaker 7: to talk about next year. 854 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,320 Speaker 1: So I will I will just say that I'm very still, 855 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 1: very very very. 856 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,800 Speaker 3: Concerned about Trevor Rodgers, like very concerned the fact that 857 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,880 Speaker 3: I regue it's doing for the year, and I know 858 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 3: he's done for the year, But what is going on 859 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,760 Speaker 3: with him is my is my big question right now. 860 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, he has a kitchen since he got hurt, and 861 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 7: like he's still a throw, He's still throw. 862 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:12,879 Speaker 1: He was about that, he. 863 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,879 Speaker 3: Was about to return and then he hurt his non 864 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,760 Speaker 3: throwing shoulder and he's a no throw still. 865 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. 866 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, that is concerning especially, you know, I mean at 867 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 4: the moment, almost like every dynamic, so you know. 868 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, So back to what I was gonna say. 869 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:44,800 Speaker 7: If you do end up getting rid of Victor mess Jr. 870 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 7: This season, a name you could look at. He's gonna 871 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 7: be a little bit parshy right for next year, but 872 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 7: he would instantly become one of our top prospects when 873 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 7: it comes to hitting if they do get rid of 874 00:40:56,239 --> 00:41:01,360 Speaker 7: any patrol centerfield Jose Ramos uh Amani and out of 875 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 7: the from the Dodgers. He's in their double A right now. 876 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 7: It's like twenty six bombs. I believe somewhere up. 877 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 1: There is I believe. I know it's double dig because 878 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,840 Speaker 1: I don't know how many, how much it is. He's fast. 879 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 1: I watched him and during WBC, like I did with 880 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 1: Lawrence Is, he's swinging. It's not the worst, but it 881 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 1: could be a little bit better. He didn't have the 882 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 1: greatest WBC. He could have had a little bit better. 883 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 1: But he's a name that if if you're. 884 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,960 Speaker 7: Willing to try and get your I know, like I said, 885 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,280 Speaker 7: there's it's he's gonna be a little bit pricing. 886 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: He's year and the most the most. I know, he 887 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:42,400 Speaker 1: was one of their top prospects. 888 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 7: But if you're gonna if there, if someone like that 889 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 7: can get up on the market, not this year, but 890 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,800 Speaker 7: like in the offseason, that would be a name would look. 891 00:41:49,600 --> 00:42:00,760 Speaker 4: At from the Dodgers, right right, Robo, Yeah, yeah, Okay, 892 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:01,760 Speaker 4: you know that's. 893 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:02,440 Speaker 1: A lot of there. 894 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,319 Speaker 4: I mean, if you're gonna go for I think I'll 895 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,399 Speaker 4: be more of an off season type of thing. 896 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:09,919 Speaker 1: Yeah when it comes to. 897 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, I was blanking on totally. Yeah, I like 898 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 4: the player. Valdi also just got hurt. I think I 899 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:20,239 Speaker 4: seen that he was hurt. 900 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 1: I did see that. I felt so bad for him. 901 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 4: And then like twenty minutes later, the Texans, the Texans 902 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,880 Speaker 4: the Rangers traded for this is gott jordanman Ray. 903 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:32,840 Speaker 1: So that's funny. 904 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, I still hope, I hope of Aldi recoveries. Though 905 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 4: he was having a great year. 906 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 1: Sorry conversation. For sure, he was somebody I thought I was. 907 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 3: I thought possibly that the Red Sox would go after 908 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,800 Speaker 3: him and bring him back there. But now that he's hurt, 909 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,360 Speaker 3: and now that and now that and now where the 910 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 3: Rangers are literally buying everything and anything that moves. 911 00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 1: I mean they weren't even gonna trade him in the 912 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:04,799 Speaker 1: purps place. They are literally buying the first place all year. 913 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 2: I don't think they were ever going to trade them. 914 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 4: Imagine they got Congo Orio. I obviously don't need them, 915 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:12,720 Speaker 4: but it would be pretty funny. 916 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,440 Speaker 2: I don't know where you're playing because you got young 917 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,760 Speaker 2: at third. 918 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,760 Speaker 1: I remember their shortstop is you got see me at second? 919 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,920 Speaker 1: Like I mean, they're d H. I forget what they 920 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:26,959 Speaker 1: usually uses DH. 921 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,880 Speaker 2: That's one of the deepest guard that's one of the 922 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:36,320 Speaker 2: deepest all baseball. At a line up in the Al 923 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 2: they lost the. 924 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 1: Look at that. They guys are left by the Padres. 925 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, the Padres are They put themselves back from the 926 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 4: buyer's market. 927 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:51,880 Speaker 1: So that removes another option from Miami and smell. 928 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,400 Speaker 3: Pick cubs and Padre is getting hot now with terrible 929 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 3: for most of the buyers. 930 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,719 Speaker 2: That was that happened to the buyer market. This is 931 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,360 Speaker 2: what we're to sell our market. They're going gonna be overpaying. 932 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,920 Speaker 2: What's gonna happen. That's why it was genius to get 933 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,279 Speaker 2: David Rabbis as well they did. I don't even know 934 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 2: what that probably. 935 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,919 Speaker 7: What did you guys keep that degree? I thought, I thought, 936 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 7: I don't think they either either Hernandez or the bargets 937 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:21,719 Speaker 7: are gonna end up on the That's the thing. I've 938 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 7: been saying this for a while. I think they're gonna 939 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 7: end up getting trade, especially now that they got Louise 940 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 7: on him Acuna that blocks like three positions for him 941 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 7: with even with with Jeff McNeil there, who knows how 942 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 7: long Jeff McNeil's gonna be there. 943 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,360 Speaker 1: But you know, Steve Cohen gives money out to everybody, 944 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 1: So I think you're not gonna Look. I love the 945 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 1: Louis and there getting. 946 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,960 Speaker 4: Him that that was the best those that parmacist that 947 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,680 Speaker 4: form system is gonna get a lot better this this deadline. 948 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 4: If if they make, if they trade who we think 949 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,919 Speaker 4: they'll trade. So that's all. 950 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:59,440 Speaker 1: They probably are gonna get because the system is horrid. 951 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,440 Speaker 1: It's not that good. Yeah, I don't think. I think 952 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:08,239 Speaker 1: this year, I don't think. I don't think Berliner gets 953 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,160 Speaker 1: felt them. Apparently he really really likes New York. 954 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,719 Speaker 3: So it's a lot of money. It's also a lot 955 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:15,840 Speaker 3: of money that he's owed. 956 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 1: It's also for like. 957 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,560 Speaker 2: He's old enough to be a lot of people's listening sad, 958 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:23,680 Speaker 2: and he chooses where he goes. 959 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:29,439 Speaker 1: That's too. He has that trade clause. He probably set 960 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,399 Speaker 1: the trade that the Houston I've seen some Reds. 961 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,160 Speaker 2: I've also heard in Cincinnati, but I don't know, but 962 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:36,440 Speaker 2: you live in Cincinnati. 963 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,799 Speaker 1: That's why would you trade Martine for here? 964 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 2: Mart I mean, honestly, yeah, that's also tough, But I 965 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,439 Speaker 2: think you trade Christian Royal because that dude's not gonna 966 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,799 Speaker 2: be up to like twenty twenty five, and that doesn't 967 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,000 Speaker 2: really fit the Reds mold. 968 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 1: I've been saying for a while they need to trade 969 00:45:58,239 --> 00:45:59,480 Speaker 1: guys like Arroyo. 970 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 2: And can't call here and trade some of the guys 971 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,080 Speaker 2: who are not gonna be up that quick because Martine 972 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,800 Speaker 2: realistically could be in the opening day roster twenty four. 973 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:14,680 Speaker 1: So that would be a big pony up. He's what 974 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:19,239 Speaker 1: third base? No sin short. Here's a good thing about 975 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:20,080 Speaker 1: what the Reds and done. 976 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,840 Speaker 2: They've acquired so many short stats aka the best defensive 977 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 2: position in the end field, and you can. 978 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,000 Speaker 1: Just play them anywhere. So he can play second, he 979 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:30,719 Speaker 1: can play third like that. 980 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,759 Speaker 3: It's like that the Marlins playing second basement unless heels. 981 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,239 Speaker 1: My guy, except that the Reds have a bunch of 982 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,600 Speaker 1: really really athletic fielders. 983 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,160 Speaker 4: I'll say this, The Reds are a great position because 984 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,959 Speaker 4: they have so many infielders that they could trade them. 985 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,520 Speaker 1: For, like, you know, some really really good starting pitching. 986 00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 4: It wouldn't shocked me if they get Flayerty or one 987 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,960 Speaker 4: of these guys on the open market right now when 988 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:53,800 Speaker 4: it comes to the trades. 989 00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 2: Sorry, yeah, grow me up, you got anything else? I 990 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:02,480 Speaker 2: saw like two requests coming at once. We got to 991 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:02,959 Speaker 2: get it going. 992 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,600 Speaker 1: Oh is it true that Sala's got sent down to 993 00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 1: se O? He did? Did jesus crazy? 994 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,960 Speaker 2: I want to move by Kim? That was like that 995 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,239 Speaker 2: was the tomorrow summer second traded him? 996 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 1: Which one? 997 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:19,479 Speaker 8: Three? 998 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,000 Speaker 1: You know he wasn't He wasn't two or three? He 999 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,520 Speaker 1: was like to but but I don't want I score 1000 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:28,799 Speaker 1: a guy he was. I think it was, you know what, 1001 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,399 Speaker 1: I'll look it up right, So to move getting rid 1002 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:33,320 Speaker 1: of at. 1003 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 2: That time and getting that trade over the finish line, 1004 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:37,279 Speaker 2: because that that was. 1005 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,840 Speaker 1: Quite literally the best thing they could have gotten for 1006 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,520 Speaker 1: I don't love best, so Broo, thank you to move 1007 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:49,360 Speaker 1: on here. We are going to Uh, let's go Devin. 1008 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,080 Speaker 2: Let's go with Devin. Devin was speaking when J. J. 1009 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,319 Speaker 2: Blde got traded, So any trades happened right now? 1010 00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:03,279 Speaker 1: Thank you? You're right, I think, guys, I've just been 1011 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:04,320 Speaker 1: looking up some names. 1012 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,560 Speaker 9: You know, it's tough to try to protict this stuff 1013 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:10,399 Speaker 9: and grow up potential trades. But I've been really looking 1014 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:15,719 Speaker 9: at the Mets lately. So the metsa Mark Fianto's and 1015 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,799 Speaker 9: Pete Alonzo. You know, he's only got next year. I 1016 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:20,680 Speaker 9: think that could be a. 1017 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:25,080 Speaker 1: Good under the radar type of guy. He's you know, 1018 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,879 Speaker 1: not necessarily like available available, but if the Marlins want 1019 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:34,759 Speaker 1: to overpay, maybe that could work. That's more than an overpay. 1020 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:42,320 Speaker 4: Well, I think that No, two years, that's all he's got, made. 1021 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:43,200 Speaker 1: His name available. 1022 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,200 Speaker 2: I don't believe he will get traded because the Mets 1023 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,040 Speaker 2: are still trying to compete next year. 1024 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:49,800 Speaker 1: I think Peter Alowns is a guy they would like 1025 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:50,640 Speaker 1: to extend. 1026 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,600 Speaker 2: They probably can't afford an extend well, so they can't 1027 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:59,439 Speaker 2: afford extent see color, but it would take a lot. Yeah, 1028 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,080 Speaker 2: let it my first base for the next year and 1029 00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:02,480 Speaker 2: a half. 1030 00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,080 Speaker 1: And what do you do after that. I don't think 1031 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:05,200 Speaker 1: the Mars are gonna extend Peter. 1032 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,759 Speaker 2: Also, those Injurdivision trades are just so so tricky. You 1033 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:12,600 Speaker 2: aren't giving up to your best FCL prospects. They were 1034 00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,880 Speaker 2: now getting national attention and everyone thinks Marco Vargas's Jesus. 1035 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,359 Speaker 2: Even now, our guy Alice Carper was all over at 1036 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,919 Speaker 2: the last couple of months. But it would cost a lot, 1037 00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:23,840 Speaker 2: It would be very, very risky. 1038 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:24,719 Speaker 1: But there's no. 1039 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,120 Speaker 2: Question whether pe Alonzo would help the scene because he 1040 00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:28,759 Speaker 2: would make the scene infinitely better. 1041 00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:30,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I. 1042 00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,280 Speaker 4: Think the Mets end up just extending him, and with Ventils, 1043 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:36,839 Speaker 4: I think he's gonna be a piece that the Mets 1044 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:37,880 Speaker 4: will want moving forward. 1045 00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,239 Speaker 5: So I doubt don't have to I just want to 1046 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,320 Speaker 5: say this morning, I was a guest on the Talking 1047 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:46,040 Speaker 5: Mets podcast, so we were going through the Robertson trade 1048 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:50,640 Speaker 5: in the prospects, and he brought up, unprompted, he pitched 1049 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:54,160 Speaker 5: the idea of Pete Alonzo to the Marlins. But do 1050 00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,000 Speaker 5: you know who we wanted back for Peter Alonzo? 1051 00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:58,360 Speaker 6: Ury Ury? 1052 00:49:58,560 --> 00:49:59,080 Speaker 1: What Jury? 1053 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,560 Speaker 5: That's that's not going anywhere. I don't I don't think 1054 00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,480 Speaker 5: there's a match there with that team. But yeah, I 1055 00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,560 Speaker 5: do suspect that he'll be extended with the Mets. They 1056 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:12,120 Speaker 5: absolutely adore him there, he's been in the midst He 1057 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,520 Speaker 5: was recently in the midst of maybe the worst slump 1058 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,160 Speaker 5: of his career, but he has since pounded out of that. 1059 00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,839 Speaker 5: You know, he's a when all things considered, he's gonna 1060 00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,279 Speaker 5: hit forty home runs every single year. They're gonna keep him, 1061 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,080 Speaker 5: but they could get creative with some of the other 1062 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:27,880 Speaker 5: guys on their roster. It is interesting that the Marlins 1063 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,120 Speaker 5: and Mets have now hooked up on three different trades 1064 00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,520 Speaker 5: just in the kim ang Era alone, and so I 1065 00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:37,680 Speaker 5: would expect that that relationship is strong, and they've done 1066 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:41,280 Speaker 5: several different types of deals with each other. That whole 1067 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,960 Speaker 5: that old philosophy of not trading in your division, I 1068 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,279 Speaker 5: think that's outdated at this point with the way that 1069 00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,799 Speaker 5: baseball has changed a little bit now that you can 1070 00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,120 Speaker 5: get into the postseason so easily as a wild card, 1071 00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,720 Speaker 5: now that you play heads ahead a lot less often 1072 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,680 Speaker 5: than you used to under the old format. Yeah, you 1073 00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:00,359 Speaker 5: should always be very don't rule out any trade within 1074 00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:05,920 Speaker 5: the division moving forward, in my opinion, Yeah, I agree, 1075 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:08,840 Speaker 5: what else you got. 1076 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,520 Speaker 1: That to speak as long as possible, hopes we get 1077 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:12,080 Speaker 1: a trade. 1078 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:15,719 Speaker 9: No, I was looking at some other names. You know, 1079 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,279 Speaker 9: you have Candelario. I was trying to think of the 1080 00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:24,200 Speaker 9: package for to have Candelario and maybe Patrick Corbin with 1081 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,759 Speaker 9: money obviously maybe milk. 1082 00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:33,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, Patrick Corbin, how old is he? 1083 00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:37,759 Speaker 1: He's still ticking, he's still throwing, he's or little under 1084 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 1: He's actually been okay. I mean if if five O 1085 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:48,240 Speaker 1: seven R A is okay, geez, He's had some decent starts. 1086 00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,960 Speaker 1: He's gotten blown up a lot. Blow up percentage is 1087 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:54,560 Speaker 1: probably the worst he gets when when it rains, of course, 1088 00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,800 Speaker 1: But then I'm just trying to look more. I actually 1089 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:02,080 Speaker 1: like I I. 1090 00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,120 Speaker 4: Really like Condelario. If my if they were still looking 1091 00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,360 Speaker 4: for relievers, I really liked the name Califinigan. I know 1092 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:09,879 Speaker 4: he's been a name that's been brought up a couple 1093 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,719 Speaker 4: of times. I was he's been pretty good for the 1094 00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:13,239 Speaker 4: most part. 1095 00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,760 Speaker 1: That the name I knew, I knew you really wanted. 1096 00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:21,839 Speaker 4: I did really want last year yea, and this year 1097 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:23,600 Speaker 4: I know I was gonna bring him up, but he was. 1098 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:27,120 Speaker 1: Like he was like there were better names out there obviously, 1099 00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,800 Speaker 1: so and then I guess if you look at starters 1100 00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,880 Speaker 1: much most of the Marlins control for this team. But 1101 00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:38,000 Speaker 1: there be honest. 1102 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,560 Speaker 10: I gotta be honest with Quato coming back and pitching 1103 00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,560 Speaker 10: like he has, and you're gonna have Yuri back for 1104 00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:49,240 Speaker 10: September and you've got you know, do you really need 1105 00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:49,760 Speaker 10: to go. 1106 00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:55,799 Speaker 1: For another for another starter? Ye? Yes, yes, yes, Okay, fine, 1107 00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,640 Speaker 1: I will got up. Okay, I get it. Cuato went 1108 00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,600 Speaker 1: on things. Hopefully you will do one one of them 1109 00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:03,359 Speaker 1: gets hurt, like. 1110 00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:11,040 Speaker 2: I totally rack the Blizard of their career. Yeah, we 1111 00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,319 Speaker 2: lecture you enough, full will spare you. But one thing 1112 00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,279 Speaker 2: that I get enough lecturing in the. 1113 00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,400 Speaker 1: Chat, it is what it is. 1114 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,520 Speaker 2: There was one name thing did get brought up in 1115 00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:22,879 Speaker 2: art while comments session here. 1116 00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,640 Speaker 1: If you go down to the bottom right with Thomas, see. 1117 00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,160 Speaker 2: Kind of what people are saying. I can't get to 1118 00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:28,719 Speaker 2: everyone at the same time, so I like to read 1119 00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:29,160 Speaker 2: through those. 1120 00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,640 Speaker 1: Lane Thomas was suggested. I like him a lot. 1121 00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:33,680 Speaker 2: He's having a really good year, but it comes with 1122 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:37,640 Speaker 2: some control, and with how flogged the Marlin's quarter outfield 1123 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:41,160 Speaker 2: spots are, especially without him coming back now, it's really 1124 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,600 Speaker 2: really tough. But I really like Lane Thomas. I think 1125 00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,719 Speaker 2: he would make me seem a lot better, But I 1126 00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,759 Speaker 2: don't see a path together him at. 1127 00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:54,480 Speaker 1: Least I want to do I even in just an 1128 00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:55,839 Speaker 1: MLB trade, I don't care. 1129 00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,160 Speaker 2: Let me just get some sort of trade during these 1130 00:53:58,200 --> 00:53:59,840 Speaker 2: spaces so we can just react to. 1131 00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe doing in the spaces Tuesday, maybe you've doing 1132 00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,960 Speaker 1: tomorrow on that. We'll see, But Devin is not all. 1133 00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,480 Speaker 1: You've got got some question that I did want to mention. 1134 00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,640 Speaker 9: You know, we talked about trades and acquiring, acquiring, you know, 1135 00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:14,560 Speaker 9: what happens with the guys that you have if you 1136 00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:19,360 Speaker 9: acquire an outfielder, what happens to Sanchez and you know 1137 00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,719 Speaker 9: DLC when when Jaz comes back, and the same thing 1138 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:24,840 Speaker 9: with the infield, you know, you get a third basement 1139 00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:25,560 Speaker 9: first baseman. 1140 00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,279 Speaker 1: Who's gonna take Cooper? You know, like, what's actually gonna 1141 00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,560 Speaker 1: happen with those guys. Yeah, that's something I've been thinking 1142 00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:32,920 Speaker 1: about too, when when it. 1143 00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:36,279 Speaker 4: Comes to specifically to Cooper, because obviously he's kind of 1144 00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,000 Speaker 4: shown he's shown his inconsistencies in terms of playing time, 1145 00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:42,120 Speaker 4: and Julie's been good. You have Troy Johnson and Triple A. 1146 00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,080 Speaker 4: Obviously those are names that you would say I want 1147 00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,360 Speaker 4: them over Cooper, but you know Cooper is on a 1148 00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,920 Speaker 4: one year deal. The likeliness of him returning his low, 1149 00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:50,560 Speaker 4: I don't think he will come back, to be honest 1150 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,799 Speaker 4: with you, and trading and now would make a lot 1151 00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,960 Speaker 4: of sense that you know, especially since Miamu was in 1152 00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,719 Speaker 4: Carlos Santana. We still haven't mentioned that too much. The 1153 00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:00,400 Speaker 4: fact that they were in on Sata it means that 1154 00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,719 Speaker 4: they were looking at first basement on that market, and 1155 00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,800 Speaker 4: I know that is something Joe mentioned on the Fish Unfiltered, 1156 00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,600 Speaker 4: which I highly suggest Struggle look to watch or listen. 1157 00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:10,120 Speaker 1: However, you get. 1158 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:15,240 Speaker 2: Your stripes fish on first content, So that that's something 1159 00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,719 Speaker 2: else that really needs to be mentioned, that the fact. 1160 00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:21,439 Speaker 1: That you they are looking at first basement. They don't 1161 00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,279 Speaker 1: feel comfortable with the Cooper. 1162 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:26,880 Speaker 4: Yuli scenarios that they have the less as Eli I 1163 00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,200 Speaker 4: believe mentioned on the last basis that they're going to 1164 00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:33,080 Speaker 4: fulfill what was said early on when they brought in 1165 00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:34,720 Speaker 4: Ulie that they were going to put them at second, 1166 00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:36,480 Speaker 4: the third and they were going to try them out 1167 00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,400 Speaker 4: of different positions, which I personally disagree with that happening, 1168 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,799 Speaker 4: but in that case you would have Cooper and. 1169 00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,000 Speaker 1: Said first baseman on the roster. 1170 00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,759 Speaker 4: If you decide to keep Coop happy, trade him, I 1171 00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:47,920 Speaker 4: mean that would be pretty nice. 1172 00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:49,399 Speaker 1: I would think you would get. 1173 00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,160 Speaker 4: A pretty decent package of prospects kind of to help 1174 00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,360 Speaker 4: view your system. Obviously, in the buyer's market market that you, 1175 00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,920 Speaker 4: I mean the terms for Miami who's buying you wouldn't 1176 00:55:57,920 --> 00:55:58,880 Speaker 4: want to do that, but I don't. 1177 00:55:58,760 --> 00:55:59,239 Speaker 1: Think the Drake. 1178 00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:05,080 Speaker 5: And additionally, there's that new rumor today from Randy Miller 1179 00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,400 Speaker 5: at aj NJ in Advanced Media that the Marlins like 1180 00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,440 Speaker 5: validating the rumor about labor Torres, and that the plan 1181 00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,160 Speaker 5: that the Marlins won is they want labor tourists to 1182 00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,239 Speaker 5: be their second baseman and they're ready to move a 1183 00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:20,640 Speaker 5: rise to first base, which again would signal that Cooper 1184 00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:24,680 Speaker 5: is likely the odd man out of that of the 1185 00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,160 Speaker 5: team of the roster. If they were to make that move, 1186 00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:31,120 Speaker 5: they're not going to carry Cooper and Guriel if Arrives 1187 00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,359 Speaker 5: is going to be the primary first baseman there. So 1188 00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,640 Speaker 5: that trade seems like somewhat of a long shot because 1189 00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,359 Speaker 5: it's contingent on the Yankees making a separate move. Their 1190 00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,000 Speaker 5: offense is just as much a concern as the Marlins Is, 1191 00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,839 Speaker 5: So it's kind of contingent on them acquiring a bat 1192 00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:48,120 Speaker 5: at a different position, probably in their outfields, to move 1193 00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,440 Speaker 5: things around and make that sensible. So it's still a 1194 00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,759 Speaker 5: long shot. I would say it's happening at the deadline. 1195 00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,520 Speaker 5: It just is further in that line of thinking that 1196 00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,120 Speaker 5: they are not satisfied with first base, and they shouldn't 1197 00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:03,600 Speaker 5: be because these guys, the Cooper and Guryel combination, it's 1198 00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,640 Speaker 5: you know, it's been passable, but it's still below average. 1199 00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,080 Speaker 5: You need a lot of offense at first base to 1200 00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,840 Speaker 5: keep up with these other teams around the league. And 1201 00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,520 Speaker 5: with Guryel, he doesn't slug, and with Cooper he's doing 1202 00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,960 Speaker 5: a decent number slugging this year, but he's not getting 1203 00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:20,200 Speaker 5: on base. He's just like a three hundred OBP and 1204 00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:22,200 Speaker 5: a lot of non productive outs too. When he's not 1205 00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,040 Speaker 5: getting on base. His strikeout rate is through the roof, 1206 00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,400 Speaker 5: especially recently with Cooper. You know, today's home run on 1207 00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:32,440 Speaker 5: the side on a hanging breaking ball, I mean, that 1208 00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:36,880 Speaker 5: was was a huge moment for him. And if I 1209 00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,000 Speaker 5: was to bet, I would think that they're gonna end 1210 00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,720 Speaker 5: up adding a bat at a different position, not first base. 1211 00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:43,520 Speaker 5: And that Cooper is gonna still be here. But it 1212 00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,840 Speaker 5: is like it's a very valid possibility that he could 1213 00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:47,920 Speaker 5: be moved. And I disagree with what Kevin said that 1214 00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,240 Speaker 5: they would get a decent thing in return. I don't 1215 00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,160 Speaker 5: think they get much of anything in return for Cooper 1216 00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:53,400 Speaker 5: if they trade him right now. 1217 00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:54,160 Speaker 6: He's not good. 1218 00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,080 Speaker 5: He's not a good overall player this year, especially now recently, 1219 00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,400 Speaker 5: he's been a league average hit or overall, which is 1220 00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,160 Speaker 5: well below average for first base. He doesn't run, he 1221 00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,560 Speaker 5: doesn't play defense, and he doesn't he doesn't stay on 1222 00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:07,880 Speaker 5: the field, and he's a pending free agent. Like it 1223 00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:12,520 Speaker 5: would they would get perhaps one they would take a 1224 00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:14,880 Speaker 5: flyer on, like a lottery ticket prospect, and they would 1225 00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,440 Speaker 5: save the money left on his salary. But his value 1226 00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,240 Speaker 5: is not where it was last year when last year 1227 00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,720 Speaker 5: they were had conversations about trading him. I remember the 1228 00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:25,600 Speaker 5: Astros being a candidate, they at least listened on Cooper 1229 00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:27,280 Speaker 5: at this time a year ago, when he was a 1230 00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,200 Speaker 5: better player and when he still had an extra year 1231 00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:32,160 Speaker 5: of control to go. So with him, I think they 1232 00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,880 Speaker 5: would be ready to simply cut their losses if they 1233 00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:37,960 Speaker 5: feel that they can make a really tangible upgrade to 1234 00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,840 Speaker 5: that infield, either by directly acquiring a first basement or 1235 00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:44,360 Speaker 5: by acquiring somebody that moves a rise since the first. 1236 00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:48,400 Speaker 4: Base I mean, Lelo. I think of it like this. 1237 00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,800 Speaker 4: This is a seller's market, as we mentioned, and if 1238 00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:55,080 Speaker 4: futu Coop, they would get something. I know he hasn't 1239 00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,320 Speaker 4: been that good, but there's times where he's looked really 1240 00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,760 Speaker 4: good this year, and I I think a team would 1241 00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:02,800 Speaker 4: take a flyer on Cooper and they would kind of 1242 00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,360 Speaker 4: fix him up. Obviously, I think they would get a 1243 00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:08,040 Speaker 4: decent package. I don't think it'll be anything, you know, 1244 00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:10,360 Speaker 4: blockbuster type, but they would get something good. 1245 00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,720 Speaker 1: I don't think it'll be a flyer type prospect like 1246 00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:15,560 Speaker 1: you said, but you know that we have different things. 1247 00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just looking around the league and which of 1248 00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:22,440 Speaker 5: these buyers needs first baseman. Which none of these buyers 1249 00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,280 Speaker 5: are going to play him every day at first base, 1250 00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,560 Speaker 5: that's for sure, but I guess you're really digging down 1251 00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:29,720 Speaker 5: on it, and maybe a team like the Twins would use 1252 00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,000 Speaker 5: him a lot at first base. They just had Alex 1253 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:33,920 Speaker 5: kirolof go on the IL and they've kind of had 1254 00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:37,560 Speaker 5: a rotating cast at first base. But you really have 1255 00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:41,840 Speaker 5: to like read it's it's hard to find a fit 1256 00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,160 Speaker 5: that would actually use him a lot as anything close 1257 00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:47,880 Speaker 5: to an everyday player. And again a pending free agent. 1258 00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,480 Speaker 5: You know, even if it is a seller's market, that's 1259 00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:53,680 Speaker 5: one position. First base is not first base DH. Those 1260 00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:56,400 Speaker 5: guys are not in as much demand as actual starting 1261 00:59:56,440 --> 01:00:00,280 Speaker 5: pitchers are, so he would be what's it? I mean, 1262 01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,760 Speaker 5: I guess the only comp is Carlos Santana because we 1263 01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,640 Speaker 5: just saw Santana move to the Brewers. But Santana's better 1264 01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,720 Speaker 5: this year. He's a better defender, and he's getting a 1265 01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,600 Speaker 5: better overall hitter. He's just a better player, and he's 1266 01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,439 Speaker 5: in the same situation as depending free agents. So yeah, 1267 01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:17,480 Speaker 5: you look at the Santana deal and then lower your 1268 01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:19,440 Speaker 5: expectations for what the return would be based on that. 1269 01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:28,000 Speaker 11: I oh, good guy, thanks. 1270 01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:34,560 Speaker 2: For the after Yeah, well, well. 1271 01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:34,720 Speaker 1: We'll get the more of that talk with other guys here. 1272 01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:40,400 Speaker 2: We got more Sharif who just recently become a super subscriber. 1273 01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:44,120 Speaker 1: ULI for me. So thank you for your generous donation. 1274 01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:51,200 Speaker 1: How are you doing and what's your question? Hey guys, 1275 01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:54,720 Speaker 1: good evening. Everyone appreciate the invite. 1276 01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:59,520 Speaker 12: First of all, I thank you guys for continuing to 1277 01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:03,120 Speaker 12: do a fine, fantastic job keeping up with everything from 1278 01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:07,680 Speaker 12: the miners straight up to the majors, the injuries, on 1279 01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:09,120 Speaker 12: the progress of this team. 1280 01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:14,960 Speaker 1: Thank you very much to all of you tonight. My 1281 01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:18,920 Speaker 1: first question is Chee Chee Gonzales. 1282 01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:25,160 Speaker 12: I know Anthony Bender, our Bender is coming back later 1283 01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:26,000 Speaker 12: in the season. 1284 01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:28,080 Speaker 1: When is Chee che coming back? 1285 01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:34,520 Speaker 5: Never I think you might be mixing up che che 1286 01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:36,880 Speaker 5: with somebody else. Chiechi Gonzales. 1287 01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:37,479 Speaker 1: Is just that. 1288 01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:41,840 Speaker 6: That triple A starter is not even pitching particularly well 1289 01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:45,520 Speaker 6: in Jacksonville. 1290 01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:48,080 Speaker 12: Okay, okay, because I saw him on the forty nine 1291 01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:54,080 Speaker 12: and then I saw him on the the DM, So 1292 01:01:54,200 --> 01:02:00,480 Speaker 12: I wondering we're talking about like puck struggling, and he's 1293 01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:02,560 Speaker 12: now moved down to at least the sixth or the 1294 01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:06,000 Speaker 12: seventh in terms of the death relief, right, And so 1295 01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:09,200 Speaker 12: I know Bender is really up there in ninety seven 1296 01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:13,480 Speaker 12: in fastball, but I've really never heard of like or 1297 01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:14,440 Speaker 12: seen Chigi. 1298 01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:17,560 Speaker 1: But thank you for letting me know that. 1299 01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,280 Speaker 5: Well, I'll say quickly is other relievers that are on 1300 01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:24,600 Speaker 5: the way back is Andrew NRDI is about to come 1301 01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:27,000 Speaker 5: back in the next couple of days, and then also, 1302 01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,120 Speaker 5: Tommy Nance is the one that's been on the IL 1303 01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:31,840 Speaker 5: all year, and he showed some flashes in the bullpen 1304 01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:35,240 Speaker 5: late last season. He's finally progressing and on a rehab assignment. 1305 01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:37,040 Speaker 5: I don't know if there's room for him on the 1306 01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:38,600 Speaker 5: big league roster. I don't know if there's a role 1307 01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:41,000 Speaker 5: for Tommy Dance, but he's a guy that would be 1308 01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:43,480 Speaker 5: ready to pitch in the next couple of weeks if 1309 01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:46,880 Speaker 5: they feel like he's actually at an improvement over what 1310 01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:47,360 Speaker 5: they have. 1311 01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:53,720 Speaker 12: Not what you're talking about. Yeah, I saw him on 1312 01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:57,360 Speaker 12: the I L as well. Yeah, and I know he 1313 01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:59,080 Speaker 12: was schedule to come by. 1314 01:02:59,720 --> 01:02:59,919 Speaker 1: Now. 1315 01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:04,480 Speaker 12: I don't really have any trade ideas, but I do 1316 01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:10,240 Speaker 12: think I'm thinking from I guess the perspective Mark Mark 1317 01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:14,200 Speaker 12: Camp and that if you get Jazz back and you 1318 01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:18,480 Speaker 12: can you get Avi to play his way into the 1319 01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:23,320 Speaker 12: into the management liking him, you know, I think that 1320 01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:25,560 Speaker 12: that bodes well because I think Jazz is gonna come 1321 01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:27,080 Speaker 12: back and continue to be hot. 1322 01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:32,120 Speaker 1: That may Jazz alone, may I. 1323 01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:34,840 Speaker 12: Want and runs to this modern teams in terms of 1324 01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:39,959 Speaker 12: betting and uh, you know, advanced stacks. But also if 1325 01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:45,160 Speaker 12: if Garcia can stay hot, I think he can we 1326 01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:48,680 Speaker 12: can be able to even move Cooper after the trade. 1327 01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:52,720 Speaker 12: After the deadline. I don't think Cooper has the place 1328 01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:55,000 Speaker 12: here anymore, and I don't think we're going to tool 1329 01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:58,840 Speaker 12: around with using Hasus at first base. But I think 1330 01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:04,439 Speaker 12: Asus will luckily last because we got rights to him 1331 01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:10,080 Speaker 12: next year. Also because I'm thinking cam is thinking that 1332 01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:14,000 Speaker 12: the hitters we desire is coming back to us, that'd 1333 01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:18,920 Speaker 12: be already as opposed to trading for I would like Candelario. 1334 01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:25,520 Speaker 12: I would also like to look at maybe the the 1335 01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:31,439 Speaker 12: guy from Goldsmith or even their their third basement, Saint 1336 01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:32,720 Speaker 12: Louis the third basement. 1337 01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:34,960 Speaker 1: But realistically, if we're. 1338 01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:39,880 Speaker 12: Getting black Jazz and Ava stays hot, then all we 1339 01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:42,880 Speaker 12: need is to bolt and we can talk Punk away 1340 01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:45,600 Speaker 12: until he poofs himself again. 1341 01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:47,959 Speaker 1: And like you said, you have lines coming back. 1342 01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:52,600 Speaker 12: Yeah, NARREADI coming back already. 1343 01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:53,360 Speaker 1: You can see that. 1344 01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:58,760 Speaker 12: I forgot the the guy who now pitches the eighth 1345 01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:06,200 Speaker 12: inning for us. The think he's looking good and always 1346 01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:10,760 Speaker 12: leave Roberts, Roberts's veteran guys. I like him in the 1347 01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:16,680 Speaker 12: closer position and hora uh, I think he pitched well 1348 01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:22,479 Speaker 12: in his about tonight. But yeah, so there's a lot 1349 01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:25,640 Speaker 12: to look forward to in terms of the haters that 1350 01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:28,040 Speaker 12: we desire to help this team coming back. 1351 01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:39,080 Speaker 1: Are your thoughts on that anyone there? All right? I 1352 01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:44,160 Speaker 1: guess I'll take it. I mean it's particularly with Mance. 1353 01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:47,720 Speaker 1: I guess I just don't think he's that good. But 1354 01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:50,440 Speaker 1: Lamar and two has some good internal options. 1355 01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:52,800 Speaker 2: And like you said, I mean, I think Trent Water 1356 01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:54,560 Speaker 2: with the guys that got but at the end of 1357 01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:55,919 Speaker 2: the day, I think it's just shredding Water. 1358 01:05:56,160 --> 01:06:00,160 Speaker 1: But Alex Carver's got to say something. He's got him. 1359 01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:02,240 Speaker 4: Oh, I was gonna ask a separate question and let 1360 01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:02,960 Speaker 4: you finish your thoughts. 1361 01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:05,959 Speaker 1: Go ahead, Glad Grant. I mean that's kind of my thought. 1362 01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:08,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you can hype up the guys on the. 1363 01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:10,280 Speaker 2: Roster all you want, but at the same time, it's 1364 01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:13,800 Speaker 2: a very very flawed roster. So the answers are not 1365 01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:16,480 Speaker 2: on the roster really with anything right now, whether it 1366 01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:18,960 Speaker 2: be the bullpen, the rotation, or the lineup. The Marlins 1367 01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,240 Speaker 2: have to make the moves the the next two days. 1368 01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:23,440 Speaker 2: Like it's kind of made me a little bit STUFFI 1369 01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:25,400 Speaker 2: people are saying, well, if you get Jazz back and 1370 01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:27,120 Speaker 2: you get I'll be playing good. It's like getting to 1371 01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:31,040 Speaker 2: new acquisitions. Not really, the guys were already on the 1372 01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:33,000 Speaker 2: roster and they haven't been playing that good like they 1373 01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:35,280 Speaker 2: would they would just be playing up to their potential. 1374 01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:37,400 Speaker 1: And even then, I still don't think this is the 1375 01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:38,240 Speaker 1: playoff team. 1376 01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:39,760 Speaker 2: And the Marlins have to go make moves in the 1377 01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:42,080 Speaker 2: next couple of days if they want to make the playoffs. 1378 01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:44,440 Speaker 2: This team and its currency, even if you get Jazz 1379 01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:47,000 Speaker 2: back and even at the thrower area in there, I 1380 01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:49,280 Speaker 2: still don't think they make the playoffs, is what Eliza ahead. 1381 01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:51,360 Speaker 2: The Marlins haven't been good against seems to over five 1382 01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:55,360 Speaker 2: hundred this year, that nothing will change if the Marlins 1383 01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:56,320 Speaker 2: don't make any moves. 1384 01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:59,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, you have to be as exciting as it is. 1385 01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:01,840 Speaker 5: I supposed to have these injured players all getting healthy 1386 01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:05,000 Speaker 5: at the same time. What's stuffing somebody else from getting 1387 01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:07,600 Speaker 5: injured in August and September? Even though it feels like 1388 01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:11,160 Speaker 5: a well rounded team at this exact moment. More injuries 1389 01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:14,479 Speaker 5: are inevitable. That's just the reality of it. And when 1390 01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:16,520 Speaker 5: they don't happen for a period of time, that's a 1391 01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:18,880 Speaker 5: good problem to have. But that's where minor league options 1392 01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:23,520 Speaker 5: come into play. That's when you get really creative. Realistically, 1393 01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:27,200 Speaker 5: you have to anticipate that you get to be prepared 1394 01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:29,480 Speaker 5: for the for the likelihood that there are going to 1395 01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:33,560 Speaker 5: be more injuries that make it that hurt your depth 1396 01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:36,360 Speaker 5: at different positions. And that's why buyers team, when teams 1397 01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:39,160 Speaker 5: are really determined to make the playoffs, they add more 1398 01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:42,360 Speaker 5: than twenty six good Major leaguers on their roster at 1399 01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:44,880 Speaker 5: the same time because they anticipate that some of those 1400 01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:48,240 Speaker 5: guys are are not all going to be available at 1401 01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:51,280 Speaker 5: the exact same time. And I would say, to answer 1402 01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:53,680 Speaker 5: your question, even though at this moment, I'd say the 1403 01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:56,800 Speaker 5: outfield is in decent shape, or you could you could 1404 01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:59,880 Speaker 5: be hopeful about the outfield looking with the pieces they 1405 01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:02,360 Speaker 5: are already have, the infield is still just not good enough. 1406 01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:04,920 Speaker 5: They still have to be creative and aggressive there. And 1407 01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:07,960 Speaker 5: if they can find an above average infielder, whether it 1408 01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:10,800 Speaker 5: is at third or at first or at second, that 1409 01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:14,360 Speaker 5: moves arise to first days anything any infielder even and 1410 01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:16,160 Speaker 5: of course that's short stuff as well. If one of 1411 01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:19,200 Speaker 5: those magically becomes available, they need to be turning over 1412 01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:22,760 Speaker 5: every rock that can in the infields because and then 1413 01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:26,000 Speaker 5: make adjustments from there because that they're just not getting 1414 01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:27,799 Speaker 5: enough offense from those positions. 1415 01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:31,120 Speaker 1: Right now, real quick, let me moderate the streets. Have 1416 01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:34,320 Speaker 1: his hands up. It's just thought, Alex Sarvers, he's got. 1417 01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:36,519 Speaker 2: A question before we bring in the next person, a 1418 01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:37,799 Speaker 2: lot out his questions. 1419 01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:39,200 Speaker 1: So sure, what else you got? 1420 01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:44,880 Speaker 12: Yeah, I was, I was just I agree, but nothing 1421 01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:49,040 Speaker 12: is stopping like or Hay so layer from learning how 1422 01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:52,400 Speaker 12: to stay away, you know, from that inside bitch filow 1423 01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:55,960 Speaker 12: his knees, I think he can start to come around. 1424 01:08:56,160 --> 01:09:00,200 Speaker 1: I think it would be imperative then if you stick. 1425 01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:04,160 Speaker 12: Jazz at the third spot for them to actually pitch 1426 01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:06,639 Speaker 12: the Hilaire, because I think that's what was happening when 1427 01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:08,960 Speaker 12: we had when we were hard with Jazz, they had 1428 01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:13,000 Speaker 12: to pitch the Hilaire because Louis started walking more. 1429 01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:16,439 Speaker 1: And that's important to to. 1430 01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:18,559 Speaker 12: To put a riot to walk if he's not getting 1431 01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:22,360 Speaker 12: something that I think when Jazz got hurt, he started 1432 01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:25,360 Speaker 12: to try and hit everything that you know, he could 1433 01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:29,080 Speaker 12: have taken more walks. But you're gonna have to pitch 1434 01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:32,400 Speaker 12: the Hilaire because Jazz is there. And then if Avis 1435 01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:35,080 Speaker 12: hil is gonna you know, be hitting the ball all 1436 01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:37,920 Speaker 12: over the yard, I'd stick him there in four and 1437 01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:40,600 Speaker 12: I easily put day La Cruise at five. But my 1438 01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:43,519 Speaker 12: thing is that's never gonna happen because they're never healthy 1439 01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:45,960 Speaker 12: to get So yeah, thank you. 1440 01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:51,200 Speaker 1: Absolutely, they're definitely gonna ask. 1441 01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:54,320 Speaker 2: A question that you know, I and Ken of what 1442 01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:56,960 Speaker 2: that happens. Then we got a lot of requests. We 1443 01:09:57,040 --> 01:10:01,519 Speaker 2: got to work a little efficiently here, but al's going well. 1444 01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:03,240 Speaker 1: If you have a ton of requests, Now I feel bad. 1445 01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:04,800 Speaker 1: Damn it, Bran. Why are you gonna make it feel 1446 01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:05,240 Speaker 1: bad like that? 1447 01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:05,439 Speaker 12: Bro? 1448 01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:09,599 Speaker 1: I mean, it's our numbers are going up every week. 1449 01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:12,519 Speaker 1: That's thanks to you guys. Thank you for listening. Yeah, 1450 01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:14,120 Speaker 1: I'll be brief because I know we want to bring 1451 01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:14,519 Speaker 1: in the people. 1452 01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:16,280 Speaker 13: It's not about us, it's about you guys. So again, 1453 01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:17,640 Speaker 13: thank you guys for the support. But I want to 1454 01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:21,599 Speaker 13: ask Eli something really quick. Eli printed something yesterday after after. 1455 01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:23,960 Speaker 1: Jake heaters start. Uh maybe you guys already covered this. 1456 01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:26,760 Speaker 4: I don't know, but Eli printed something I think this 1457 01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:30,519 Speaker 4: morning on on fish On First about Jake Heater and 1458 01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:33,240 Speaker 4: his start last night where he did really well in 1459 01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:34,599 Speaker 4: terms of the stats. 1460 01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:37,520 Speaker 1: I think like five point two innings with ten strikeouts. 1461 01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:40,759 Speaker 1: It looked really good. I think this was, in my opinion, 1462 01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:43,080 Speaker 1: his best start since he's been back from injury. But 1463 01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:46,200 Speaker 1: I don't think Eli was that impressed. So Eli, I mean, man, 1464 01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:46,439 Speaker 1: he was. 1465 01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:48,360 Speaker 4: Up to ninety five. It looked pretty good with me. 1466 01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:51,479 Speaker 4: You printed something today that you you you don't think 1467 01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:54,120 Speaker 4: this was as dominant as he can be. I would 1468 01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:56,200 Speaker 4: tend to agree with you. I think this guy could 1469 01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:58,160 Speaker 4: be even a little bit better than this. But I 1470 01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:00,280 Speaker 4: thought that was a damn good start from him last 1471 01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:03,920 Speaker 4: night to show himself to Scouts that may have been 1472 01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:06,439 Speaker 4: in the building in Pensacola. But man, what do you 1473 01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:08,599 Speaker 4: got expand on that place? 1474 01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:17,200 Speaker 1: I'd like to hear it, or maybe he's not there. 1475 01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:23,639 Speaker 1: You were thinking over bro, you intimidated him. He shook, 1476 01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:27,040 Speaker 1: he shook that you were. He's probably longer a dog 1477 01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:27,519 Speaker 1: or something. 1478 01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:30,400 Speaker 4: It's okay, I can ask later, It's okay, Yeah, just 1479 01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:31,839 Speaker 4: ask privately. 1480 01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:34,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I need I know. 1481 01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:36,479 Speaker 13: You need to get onto uh two people that want 1482 01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:37,960 Speaker 13: to ask questions the fantom want to ask. 1483 01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:49,960 Speaker 1: Questions subscriber Now, m M, hey, doct remember when someone's 1484 01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:51,479 Speaker 1: connecting and we don't have like an. 1485 01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:55,360 Speaker 2: Active Scouts, there is there is all right element how 1486 01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:55,920 Speaker 2: are we tonight? 1487 01:11:56,000 --> 01:12:00,400 Speaker 1: What's your question? Man? Alright? Doing it all right? Night? 1488 01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:05,400 Speaker 4: It was mentioned in the fantasy trade, uh, Jordan Walker 1489 01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:10,400 Speaker 4: for Uriz? I could a pull up poll just close 1490 01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:14,479 Speaker 4: at one hundred and ninety six votes. Ninety two percent 1491 01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:17,040 Speaker 4: of the voters say that you keep ry and you 1492 01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:19,880 Speaker 4: don't trade for Jordan Walker. Just wanted to point that out. 1493 01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:23,639 Speaker 4: I do have a question, though, this is Carver Joins, 1494 01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:26,040 Speaker 4: so this is more on his on his level, I 1495 01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:31,000 Speaker 4: guess September first. If the roster is as it is 1496 01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:35,960 Speaker 4: today and ur He's up already, which two players filled 1497 01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:36,960 Speaker 4: the twenty eight man. 1498 01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:41,640 Speaker 1: Roster at that? Well, I'll go ahead, Kevin. I know 1499 01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:43,439 Speaker 1: we'll probably share the same sentiment. 1500 01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:47,599 Speaker 4: Troy Johnston is definitely one that has to be up, 1501 01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:49,440 Speaker 4: no question. 1502 01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:51,360 Speaker 1: In my mind. Troy Johnston is is a. 1503 01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:52,800 Speaker 13: Guy that needs to be on the on the big 1504 01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:54,799 Speaker 13: league team as soon as possible. 1505 01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:57,240 Speaker 4: So that's one, Kevin, you want to give the other one, 1506 01:12:57,240 --> 01:12:58,040 Speaker 4: I'll let you go ahead on this. 1507 01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:03,800 Speaker 1: I know I only got Troy Giantston. Bro, do you 1508 01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:05,920 Speaker 1: have another name? I'll let you go for the next one, 1509 01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:08,920 Speaker 1: and we'll probably agree on that one too. I mean, 1510 01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:11,240 Speaker 1: if you're still here you go, Montee. 1511 01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:14,439 Speaker 4: I would definitely say as well. 1512 01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:16,639 Speaker 1: But then, as as Allen said, if. 1513 01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:20,160 Speaker 13: Your he's back, and where do you put him? 1514 01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:25,439 Speaker 4: Are there multiple spots in the rotation? I would tread 1515 01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:27,120 Speaker 4: on the on the well, it depends what happens to 1516 01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:29,599 Speaker 4: the deadline. But even right now, I must bring another 1517 01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:32,000 Speaker 4: one unless you want to bring him another reliever. 1518 01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:34,559 Speaker 1: That would be Sean run Well. That that's pretty good. 1519 01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:38,160 Speaker 1: I've got suggestions to Eli's hot there. They even enjoy 1520 01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:44,400 Speaker 1: sets absolutely already. Forty man too, I think, still right, 1521 01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:45,800 Speaker 1: Georg Johnson pretty easy. 1522 01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:49,160 Speaker 4: Troy Troy Johnston is a must, and that guy's not 1523 01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:52,679 Speaker 4: a one to twenty. When the rosters expand, there's an issue. 1524 01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:55,320 Speaker 4: But the other name I want to bring up unlikely, 1525 01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:58,320 Speaker 4: but Will Banfield, that's the one who I would love 1526 01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:01,639 Speaker 4: to see the big league. Very student, very good arm, 1527 01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:05,800 Speaker 4: very good defensively, very good bat this season. Someone would 1528 01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:12,120 Speaker 4: I would really like to see. My only Edwards is 1529 01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:15,799 Speaker 4: another one. My only reformation that Banfield would be something 1530 01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:17,960 Speaker 4: like how do you get him into games with with 1531 01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:18,960 Speaker 4: four test installing? 1532 01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:19,639 Speaker 1: Right? 1533 01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:23,040 Speaker 4: That would be my reformation. But yeah, Edwards is a 1534 01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:25,519 Speaker 4: good one. Johnston is the obvious one for. 1535 01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:30,680 Speaker 13: Sure, and then I would I would say Reynolds, Uh, 1536 01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:32,040 Speaker 13: definitely deserves it. 1537 01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:33,760 Speaker 1: And he's on the forty man, so there's he's of 1538 01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:36,800 Speaker 1: access there, right. So yeah, there's there's a. 1539 01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:39,360 Speaker 4: Few guys you can point to in triple A, some 1540 01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:41,479 Speaker 4: in double A Monteregerty if he's still. 1541 01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:41,840 Speaker 1: Here for sure. 1542 01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:45,040 Speaker 13: So there's there's a there's a few guys pushing their 1543 01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:46,559 Speaker 13: way that that could that could earn that call. 1544 01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:53,759 Speaker 5: Sorry, ahead, well, I'm not a fan of this question, 1545 01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:56,800 Speaker 5: to be frank with you, but one thing I would 1546 01:14:56,800 --> 01:15:00,320 Speaker 5: point out to me a pretty obvious player that if 1547 01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:03,400 Speaker 5: he had expanded rosters, I would call up Austin Allen 1548 01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:06,640 Speaker 5: because you get you get no power, you get no 1549 01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:10,720 Speaker 5: rum production whatsoever from your catchers all year long. If 1550 01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:13,320 Speaker 5: you have an extra roster spot, then you give it 1551 01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:16,519 Speaker 5: to a guy that has the potential to hit a 1552 01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:19,080 Speaker 5: three run home run and that can catch. 1553 01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:20,280 Speaker 6: You know, once you bring him into the game in 1554 01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:23,320 Speaker 6: the later endings if you need to. That's that's often. 1555 01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:26,200 Speaker 5: Not always, but that's frequently a way that teams go 1556 01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:28,760 Speaker 5: with extra roster spots. They bring about the third catcher, and 1557 01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:32,240 Speaker 5: with this Marlins team, like it's even more obvious because 1558 01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:33,800 Speaker 5: their catchers can't hit. 1559 01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:36,200 Speaker 6: It's been deep into this year and you kind of 1560 01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:37,640 Speaker 6: need to accept that. 1561 01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:40,400 Speaker 5: So it's either would be somebody like him, or you know, 1562 01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:43,439 Speaker 5: Troy is somebody who has done everything possible in the 1563 01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:45,559 Speaker 5: minors to show that he can hit as well. But 1564 01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:48,599 Speaker 5: even him, his raw power is not quite the same 1565 01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:50,760 Speaker 5: as Austin Allen's is. 1566 01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:52,960 Speaker 6: He's a hit overpower guy. 1567 01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:55,120 Speaker 5: Which is funny because he actually those two are I 1568 01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:57,640 Speaker 5: think right around tied for the minor league lead for 1569 01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:00,640 Speaker 5: the Marlins and Homers this year. Yeah, I mean I 1570 01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:02,519 Speaker 5: could go a few different directions, but I think this 1571 01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:05,760 Speaker 5: is this is a good question for August seconds after 1572 01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:08,840 Speaker 5: the deadline happens, because the question is who do they 1573 01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:13,280 Speaker 5: send back in these trades to acquire the final reinforcements 1574 01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:14,840 Speaker 5: that we think they are going to Maybe they do 1575 01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:17,320 Speaker 5: send back some players that are on their forty man roster, 1576 01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:18,559 Speaker 5: even if it's not the active ruster. 1577 01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:21,200 Speaker 6: Maybe the forty man So this is a good question 1578 01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:22,719 Speaker 6: for the next spaces in my opinion. 1579 01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:25,559 Speaker 13: Yeah, I agree, Yeah, I mean, right now it all 1580 01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:28,519 Speaker 13: comes down to who's still here after the deadline, honestly, Chase, 1581 01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:30,000 Speaker 13: but I don't think. 1582 01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:31,760 Speaker 1: It's a terrible question. I think there's definitely guys that 1583 01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:32,559 Speaker 1: are pushing their way. 1584 01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:35,679 Speaker 4: Troy would be the main one, and then of course 1585 01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:38,840 Speaker 4: you look at the pitchers as well, like m Patrick. 1586 01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:41,360 Speaker 1: And you know and Sean right who came up. 1587 01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:43,800 Speaker 4: And didn't get the pitch, So you want to see 1588 01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:44,240 Speaker 4: that guy. 1589 01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:44,400 Speaker 1: Pitch a. 1590 01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:48,600 Speaker 4: So so yeah, you want to see that guy in 1591 01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:52,120 Speaker 4: a game. So yeah, I agree, though I think it's 1592 01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:55,799 Speaker 4: a question for probably next spaces, but. 1593 01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:57,760 Speaker 1: Not a terrible question, because I do think there. 1594 01:16:57,680 --> 01:16:59,559 Speaker 13: Are guys that are pushing their way right now that 1595 01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:00,479 Speaker 13: that need to considered. 1596 01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:03,720 Speaker 4: Do you want to miss Carver before before you go 1597 01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:07,800 Speaker 4: up Elma? Who's the best catching frontspect the new organization? 1598 01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:10,840 Speaker 4: I think consensuously we all thought it was Ronald and 1599 01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:11,840 Speaker 4: now he's gone, So. 1600 01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:17,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough. I mean, it is a band a 1601 01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:22,680 Speaker 1: band field. I I would still lean on the geez. 1602 01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:24,719 Speaker 13: But it's it's a really good because it was Ronald Hernandez. 1603 01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:30,200 Speaker 13: You're right, I I don't know, it's it's. 1604 01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:33,479 Speaker 1: A really really interesting question. If you probably would be 1605 01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:36,120 Speaker 1: down if you pin me, Yeah, that's a good question. 1606 01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:38,200 Speaker 4: If you pinned me down to it, I would probably 1607 01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:41,960 Speaker 4: say overall, maybe. 1608 01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:47,760 Speaker 1: It's Jill Mac. I don't know. I think it's Joe Mac. 1609 01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:52,679 Speaker 2: Like the different prospect and pipeline right now, Yeah. 1610 01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:54,719 Speaker 1: Please don't look at up please don't look at them mobile. 1611 01:17:54,840 --> 01:18:01,320 Speaker 4: But but again, yeah, Pipeline les players, so it's you know, 1612 01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:02,960 Speaker 4: someone looks at him. 1613 01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:07,240 Speaker 1: I can't name another catcher that is that far up there, 1614 01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:08,479 Speaker 1: even in the conversation with me. 1615 01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:11,880 Speaker 13: Yeah, it's either Bandfield or Mac. I mean, I love 1616 01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:15,280 Speaker 13: Paul McIntosh and I love Will Bamfield. It's I mean, 1617 01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:18,240 Speaker 13: I love Paul McIntosh, I really do. Austin Allen is 1618 01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:22,679 Speaker 13: an older guy. Yes, he can hit for power, he's 1619 01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:25,720 Speaker 13: not yeah, he's not even well yeah no, because he 1620 01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:27,799 Speaker 13: had time to major so he's not even really a prospect. 1621 01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:28,280 Speaker 1: So you're right. 1622 01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:33,559 Speaker 13: But still, yeah, he's passed prospect eligibility. So if you 1623 01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:36,759 Speaker 13: if you want to put it to best prospect catcher, 1624 01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:40,560 Speaker 13: I would say it's Joe Mack. But Will Bamfield is 1625 01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:44,080 Speaker 13: right there, so uh, yeah, there's a there's two high 1626 01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:45,320 Speaker 13: school catchers for you, That would be. 1627 01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:53,520 Speaker 4: My answer, unless but that's yes, there's eighty six wins 1628 01:18:54,120 --> 01:19:00,920 Speaker 4: get a team that final wild cards. 1629 01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:02,320 Speaker 2: Hard maybe two weeks I would have fen, yes, it 1630 01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:07,640 Speaker 2: is so jumbled up now then I'm a definite. Maybe 1631 01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:10,479 Speaker 2: it's tough to tell, there's so much to ask to 1632 01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:12,200 Speaker 2: play out, but at the season end. 1633 01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:15,040 Speaker 1: Of the day, I would say eighty six wins, there's. 1634 01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:16,960 Speaker 2: Probably like three teams of your habit or be right 1635 01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:20,760 Speaker 2: around that, like to again in on get like that. 1636 01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:22,640 Speaker 4: That's what the Phillies had last year. Right for the 1637 01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:28,439 Speaker 4: wild card, I think they had eighty seven. Okay, well 1638 01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:29,320 Speaker 4: close enough either. 1639 01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:33,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, one of the sixty six wins I'm with. 1640 01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:35,920 Speaker 4: Granted, that's a hard mate because this is so close. 1641 01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:37,720 Speaker 4: They may come down to like one of the last 1642 01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:38,559 Speaker 4: days of the season. 1643 01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:41,400 Speaker 5: So that's all put by the way, I do want 1644 01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:44,360 Speaker 5: to have an update on Austin Allen. He hurt his 1645 01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:48,439 Speaker 5: right hands or wrist on Thursday and he let the 1646 01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:49,920 Speaker 5: game early and he has. 1647 01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:52,880 Speaker 6: Not played since. So that's what was done. 1648 01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:56,439 Speaker 5: That was on Thursday, in the first ending on Thursday, 1649 01:19:56,560 --> 01:20:00,559 Speaker 5: watching it right now, a foul ball that hit his 1650 01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:04,719 Speaker 5: bare hands. His bare right hand is a throwing hands. 1651 01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:06,880 Speaker 5: And he has not played since, so we will see. 1652 01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:08,720 Speaker 5: He's not on I don't think he's on the I 1653 01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:12,519 Speaker 5: l down there, but it's a question as to exactly 1654 01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:14,960 Speaker 5: how serious that hand his jury is. 1655 01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:18,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't got that. He's on the high off 1656 01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:20,479 Speaker 1: the record, so a p MAC taking the most of 1657 01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:21,040 Speaker 1: their upsides. 1658 01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:23,840 Speaker 5: You know p MAC has started two games, and then 1659 01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:25,719 Speaker 5: today it was Santiago Chavez. 1660 01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:28,519 Speaker 13: Yeah, it would be down to p MAC to be 1661 01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:31,320 Speaker 13: like the overall starter, and then Shavez is a backup. 1662 01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:33,320 Speaker 1: So man that sucks. 1663 01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:35,640 Speaker 4: Austin Allen can definitely hear for power, but if he 1664 01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:38,679 Speaker 4: has a hand injury, I don't know see what happens. 1665 01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:45,080 Speaker 4: H Well, thank you, no, thank you guys for having 1666 01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:48,519 Speaker 4: me on. It's a big series coming up. We definitely 1667 01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:51,080 Speaker 4: need to split in order for the chance to hold 1668 01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:54,000 Speaker 4: on to the tide breaker. So win two here, win 1669 01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:56,759 Speaker 4: one in Billy in September, and if you tie them, 1670 01:20:57,120 --> 01:20:58,360 Speaker 4: uh make the playoffs. 1671 01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:00,400 Speaker 1: And they don't. So I hope people shoul goo up 1672 01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:01,000 Speaker 1: and show out. 1673 01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:04,719 Speaker 4: Let's go Marlins and go super subscribe for three dollars 1674 01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:05,360 Speaker 4: right now. 1675 01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:10,080 Speaker 1: I have a great job data, it's right. Definitely, thank you, meth. 1676 01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:13,040 Speaker 2: Since we're kind of going a while, I'll tell you well, 1677 01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:15,360 Speaker 2: we'll go hard at nine o'clock because you don't want. 1678 01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:17,400 Speaker 1: To be here till late night, but we got some cress. 1679 01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:19,080 Speaker 1: Want the track get to everyone who has brought him 1680 01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:24,200 Speaker 1: from Victor. So Victor, what's your question I had? 1681 01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:26,400 Speaker 8: I had a few questions, but I want to start 1682 01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:29,840 Speaker 8: off with Garcia because you know, he just came back 1683 01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:35,439 Speaker 8: today and I think it was really encouraging that every 1684 01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:38,800 Speaker 8: single hit that he got was a hard hit, like 1685 01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:41,640 Speaker 8: I believe they were all over on your mouths per 1686 01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:44,760 Speaker 8: hour off of that, and it seemed like he was 1687 01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:49,680 Speaker 8: doing the same thing in his rehab games. So do 1688 01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:53,400 Speaker 8: we things that I'm not thinking he's gonna turn into 1689 01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:56,400 Speaker 8: like someone amazing hitter, but do we think at least 1690 01:21:56,600 --> 01:22:00,400 Speaker 8: it's sustainable and he can give us a similar product 1691 01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:03,799 Speaker 8: in twenty game tonight, maybe not a trip for every time, 1692 01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:07,040 Speaker 8: but maybe a few vote into the guy, you know, 1693 01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:10,439 Speaker 8: two hits into the gay a single Thinking that today, 1694 01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:11,640 Speaker 8: is that sustainable? 1695 01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:18,719 Speaker 6: I think the hard that's legit. 1696 01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:21,840 Speaker 5: The quality of contact has been there with him, It 1697 01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:23,840 Speaker 5: was there even when he's struggled. 1698 01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:24,679 Speaker 6: That is legit. 1699 01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:27,840 Speaker 5: The main issue, I would say, well, the main issue 1700 01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:29,360 Speaker 5: is him getting his bat on the ball in the 1701 01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:32,320 Speaker 5: first place. But so many of his hits as a 1702 01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:35,280 Speaker 5: Marlin have been straight into the grounds, including his first 1703 01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:38,479 Speaker 5: one today that grounded into double plays. Even though the 1704 01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:40,960 Speaker 5: game as a whole went pretty well for him, we 1705 01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:43,920 Speaker 5: got off on the wrong foot because he continued in 1706 01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:47,200 Speaker 5: the long line of Marlins players that hid into double 1707 01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:49,040 Speaker 5: plays at an almost unprecedented rate. 1708 01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:52,479 Speaker 6: That was last year. That was his big undoing. 1709 01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:55,759 Speaker 5: He was constantly rolling over on balls straight into the grounds, 1710 01:22:56,160 --> 01:22:58,760 Speaker 5: where the hitting it hard doesn't really do you any 1711 01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:02,519 Speaker 5: favors in that circumstance. So with him, it's the launch 1712 01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:04,880 Speaker 5: angle is still going to be pretty crucial for him. 1713 01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:08,160 Speaker 5: Then the biggest thing will simply be swinging at better pitches, 1714 01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:12,400 Speaker 5: because he was so undisciplined last year swinging at everything. 1715 01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:15,679 Speaker 5: Even when he was hitting a ball hard, he wouldn't 1716 01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:17,400 Speaker 5: get it at the right angle and it was staying 1717 01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:18,960 Speaker 5: in the park or it was going on the grounds, 1718 01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:21,080 Speaker 5: and that's why he didn't tap into the kind of 1719 01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:24,720 Speaker 5: home run power that everybody expected of him. So I'm 1720 01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:27,920 Speaker 5: still kind of skeptical as to how exactly he's going 1721 01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:29,080 Speaker 5: to be as an overall player. 1722 01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:32,040 Speaker 6: There's ever been any question though about his strength, and. 1723 01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:34,160 Speaker 5: That's what stood out during his rehab assignment. He was 1724 01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:36,519 Speaker 5: sitting not just home runs, but opposite field home runs 1725 01:23:36,520 --> 01:23:40,000 Speaker 5: and also no doubt home runs. Yeah, his power is tantalizing. 1726 01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:42,559 Speaker 5: There are very few players on this whole trademarkt right 1727 01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:44,599 Speaker 5: now that have the kind of raw power that he 1728 01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:48,000 Speaker 5: has in terms of viewing this as that kind of 1729 01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:51,600 Speaker 5: addition on that same kind of level. But overall he 1730 01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:54,880 Speaker 5: still has pretty fatal flaws to his game where he's 1731 01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:57,400 Speaker 5: just swinging at the wrong pitches and too often that 1732 01:23:57,520 --> 01:23:59,719 Speaker 5: contact that's going into the ground and it's not really 1733 01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:01,519 Speaker 5: producing anything for this offense. 1734 01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:07,759 Speaker 4: Speaking of today's game, really quickly, not on an abby 1735 01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:12,040 Speaker 4: but speaking of today's game, if Jeans Segura somehow gets 1736 01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:13,840 Speaker 4: m VP of this series, the line, I think I 1737 01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:16,400 Speaker 4: should get like one hundred points in the MVP standings 1738 01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:17,599 Speaker 4: because I did pick him. 1739 01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:20,679 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's my my campaign for myself. 1740 01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:23,760 Speaker 13: So I yeah, like, if if that guy somehow gets 1741 01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:25,479 Speaker 13: the MVP, I should get like one hundred points. 1742 01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:32,759 Speaker 1: It was me. Now would it have been Damren Hampson 1743 01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:34,560 Speaker 1: if someone picked him or was it firmly in the 1744 01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:35,160 Speaker 1: goat Cabrera. 1745 01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:39,320 Speaker 5: That's a good question if the double check, but naturally 1746 01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:42,720 Speaker 5: nobody picked Hampson. They weren't sure he was gonna even 1747 01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:45,479 Speaker 5: be on the roster today. Actually, yes, it would have 1748 01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:47,639 Speaker 5: been I believe it would have been Hampson if anybody 1749 01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:50,519 Speaker 5: had actually picked him. 1750 01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:52,760 Speaker 1: All right, Victor for other questions. 1751 01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:56,680 Speaker 8: My other question would be regarding the trade deadline and 1752 01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:59,520 Speaker 8: more specific needs towards Glamor. 1753 01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:02,800 Speaker 1: Torren, because at least from what I was. 1754 01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:06,439 Speaker 8: Reading and what I was seeing, is that the Yankees 1755 01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:12,679 Speaker 8: wanted Cabrera and Garrett and maybe a few extra piece 1756 01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:14,280 Speaker 8: and you know, like prospects. 1757 01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:19,360 Speaker 1: But and to me, that seems like an unrealistic offer, 1758 01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:21,599 Speaker 1: you know, like asking for that much. I don't think 1759 01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:22,720 Speaker 1: that's gonna do it. 1760 01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:29,799 Speaker 8: But does that worry anyone if a teammates the Yankees 1761 01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:33,080 Speaker 8: are asking for that much? Maybe if you go over 1762 01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:36,240 Speaker 8: to the Nats and you're like, I want Candelario, they're not. 1763 01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:38,920 Speaker 8: They're going to be like I want similar you know, they're. 1764 01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:42,160 Speaker 3: Gonna be asking for similar package. Does that worry anyone? 1765 01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:48,120 Speaker 1: Well, the question ahead, all right, Yeah, we'll make this 1766 01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:51,880 Speaker 1: point as quick as I can. And Eli don't take 1767 01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:54,080 Speaker 1: best because I know he or a Yankees guy. 1768 01:25:54,560 --> 01:26:01,120 Speaker 2: But the Yankees in that casualle a little bit a 1769 01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:04,599 Speaker 2: lot of it actually, where they spent years offering Clint 1770 01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:07,840 Speaker 2: Frazier as the headliner and all these different packages, but 1771 01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:11,919 Speaker 2: now they want to the top process of the Marlins 1772 01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:13,800 Speaker 2: in two rotation arms. 1773 01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:16,759 Speaker 1: Like and then it's just so hypocritical that I. 1774 01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:19,559 Speaker 2: Don't think the price for a lot of these other 1775 01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:22,240 Speaker 2: guys is gonna be where anywhere near what the Yankees 1776 01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:23,080 Speaker 2: are asking for. 1777 01:26:23,080 --> 01:26:26,000 Speaker 1: For Taurus, that was probably a starting. 1778 01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:29,080 Speaker 2: Offer, sure, and the Marlins could always negotiate that down, 1779 01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:33,920 Speaker 2: but like, I don't expect a guy like Candelario being 1780 01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:36,639 Speaker 2: nearly that expensive at all. 1781 01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:38,800 Speaker 1: I mean, sure, he's gonna have it him played in price, 1782 01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:40,640 Speaker 1: because this is a crazy seller's. 1783 01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:43,519 Speaker 2: Margot we've seen in recent history at the deadline. But 1784 01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:47,400 Speaker 2: no one's trading that kind of package for Torus. And 1785 01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:48,840 Speaker 2: if a team does that. 1786 01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:53,000 Speaker 14: For Labor Torres that they aren't going to make the playoffs, 1787 01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:55,760 Speaker 14: I'm sorry. And then the one thing I do want 1788 01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:57,600 Speaker 14: to add to what Grant said is with Washington, I 1789 01:26:57,640 --> 01:26:59,800 Speaker 14: don't think they're looking for major labors. They're looking for 1790 01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:03,479 Speaker 14: or prospects that are going to help their system, especially 1791 01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:06,320 Speaker 14: with where they're at right now, especially especially like upper 1792 01:27:06,439 --> 01:27:10,759 Speaker 14: level prospects, where they I think should really be targeting. Obviously, 1793 01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:14,080 Speaker 14: the Mets were another situation and the Yankees has Grants. 1794 01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:17,360 Speaker 4: Said, I have no idea how they pulled that offer 1795 01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:21,080 Speaker 4: out of their ass to really say, here, we want Eddie, 1796 01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:25,200 Speaker 4: we want Brats, and we want two top prospects. And man, 1797 01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:27,160 Speaker 4: that was I think Miami should have just hung up 1798 01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:28,920 Speaker 4: the phone right there and no longer be talking to 1799 01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:32,200 Speaker 4: the Yankees. But I mean, obviously, as Brand said, you 1800 01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:33,639 Speaker 4: could kind of tone it down a little bit. 1801 01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:35,640 Speaker 1: Negotiate it down. I think they'll find a way to 1802 01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:36,479 Speaker 1: get a deal done. 1803 01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:39,360 Speaker 4: If Miami's pushing as hard as it is rumored that 1804 01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:42,839 Speaker 4: they are for Labor Torres, they will definitely either overpay 1805 01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:44,639 Speaker 4: in some way, shape or form, or. 1806 01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:47,000 Speaker 1: Eventually they'll get to a deal that they feel comfortable with. 1807 01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:51,400 Speaker 1: But I'm leaning towards the part where they overpay, just. 1808 01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:54,839 Speaker 4: Because of how how it can reported that how badly 1809 01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:55,599 Speaker 4: they're pushing for. 1810 01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:59,000 Speaker 1: Someone like Labor, Well, this is awesome. Think they should say, 1811 01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:03,320 Speaker 1: I don't know that actor pushing this hard. That could 1812 01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:06,160 Speaker 1: definitely be in New York sin Well, I'm just this 1813 01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:07,800 Speaker 1: in New York hard. I'm sorry. El. 1814 01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:12,880 Speaker 4: Last year, Craig k Told listened to Speaks that he 1815 01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:14,439 Speaker 4: was ready to send out the tweet. He had it 1816 01:28:14,439 --> 01:28:17,120 Speaker 4: written up that Glaber was coming to Miami for Pablos, 1817 01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:20,080 Speaker 4: So it wouldn't surprise me if Miami's once again trying 1818 01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:24,160 Speaker 4: to make that push that badly for Labor, which I 1819 01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:26,280 Speaker 4: don't know why. I like Labor the player, but I 1820 01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:30,000 Speaker 4: don't know really want he would virtually. 1821 01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:32,599 Speaker 1: Take out of one of Cooper or Ullie off the roster. 1822 01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:37,760 Speaker 2: As we had previously mentioned, he wouldn't be a good 1823 01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:39,240 Speaker 2: addition to this team. 1824 01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:42,600 Speaker 1: It would help out the NFL a little bit defensively, 1825 01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:44,360 Speaker 1: even though a Rise has been way better than him. 1826 01:28:44,479 --> 01:28:45,679 Speaker 1: Stop would be at second base. 1827 01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:47,479 Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, I feel like 1828 01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:49,360 Speaker 2: because we haven't really heard a lot of this coming 1829 01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:51,439 Speaker 2: from Miami other than out. 1830 01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:53,840 Speaker 1: His boy Daniel de Vivo being the first one to 1831 01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:54,919 Speaker 1: report the interest. 1832 01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:57,360 Speaker 2: Of people kind of ready killing him, but he wasn't right. 1833 01:28:57,520 --> 01:28:59,479 Speaker 2: But a lot of the noise from Labor Torres has 1834 01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:01,760 Speaker 2: called in New York. I don't know to Marines are 1835 01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:05,240 Speaker 2: actually pushing that art. Maybe we asked Rag that's actually happening. 1836 01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:07,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I would just take it with 1837 01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:09,400 Speaker 1: a grain of salt as to how hard the Larns 1838 01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:10,599 Speaker 1: are pushing. I don't doubt what's whatever. 1839 01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:14,360 Speaker 2: They've had discussions, but I also just don't know if 1840 01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:18,639 Speaker 2: they're actually going to overpay, like what New York people 1841 01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:19,160 Speaker 2: are saying. 1842 01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:21,800 Speaker 1: And if I am Miami, I am not. 1843 01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:24,840 Speaker 4: Trading at Cabera and Braxton Garrett. I think Cabert is 1844 01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:27,560 Speaker 4: an off season thing, especially with how the pitch. You 1845 01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:29,920 Speaker 4: know how much I mean you're looking for starting pitching. 1846 01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:33,240 Speaker 4: For those that think Miami should trade Edward Burrow, I 1847 01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:37,120 Speaker 4: just think you're wrong because you're looking for starting pitching. 1848 01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:41,280 Speaker 4: You're you're mentioning all these trade targets Montgomery, Flaherty, Gilido 1849 01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:43,840 Speaker 4: at one point just to say, let's trade Edward. 1850 01:29:43,960 --> 01:29:45,080 Speaker 1: I don't think that's the case. 1851 01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:47,280 Speaker 4: I think you need to keep Edward and then you 1852 01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:49,280 Speaker 4: figure it out in the off season what you're gonna do. 1853 01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:51,920 Speaker 4: That's I think that's the case with Phila Cruz, with 1854 01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:54,320 Speaker 4: Edward and all the other names you mentioned that could 1855 01:29:54,360 --> 01:30:01,639 Speaker 4: possibly be Cell Highs. 1856 01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:01,080 Speaker 1: Good vict or any other questions. 1857 01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:07,000 Speaker 8: Yes, this is my last question. So looking a bit ahead, 1858 01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:10,439 Speaker 8: you know, into the off season and more into next year, 1859 01:30:11,840 --> 01:30:13,800 Speaker 8: I know a lot of people would be scared of 1860 01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:17,000 Speaker 8: getting any more free agencies or any more free agent 1861 01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:19,040 Speaker 8: players because of the way it's turned out with some 1862 01:30:19,080 --> 01:30:20,360 Speaker 8: of the guys who've got recently. 1863 01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:22,240 Speaker 1: But where would you. 1864 01:30:22,160 --> 01:30:26,479 Speaker 8: Guys look if you are this team trying to upgrade 1865 01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:28,760 Speaker 8: the offense into the next year. 1866 01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:37,280 Speaker 2: Well, I would probably look again through trade, just because next. 1867 01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:39,920 Speaker 1: Year strange to market. I guess it's your strange market. 1868 01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:42,760 Speaker 1: It is. It is pretty bad at it taking a 1869 01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:43,840 Speaker 1: deep dive into it. 1870 01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:46,200 Speaker 2: But I know we've talked about I've seen some people 1871 01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:49,160 Speaker 2: on Twitter talk about it that it's a really bad 1872 01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:52,400 Speaker 2: free agency market and the Marls last get creative once 1873 01:30:52,439 --> 01:30:53,960 Speaker 2: again this off season. 1874 01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:55,240 Speaker 1: That just seems to be the game at this point, 1875 01:30:55,400 --> 01:30:55,880 Speaker 1: doesn't it. 1876 01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:59,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, there'll be some familiar names that were out there 1877 01:30:59,479 --> 01:31:01,880 Speaker 5: last year that the Marlins are linked to, like Evan 1878 01:31:01,960 --> 01:31:05,240 Speaker 5: Longoria and Justin Turner. Justin Turner has been amazing and 1879 01:31:05,240 --> 01:31:08,120 Speaker 5: he's going to opt out of his player option. But 1880 01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:10,719 Speaker 5: both those guys are a year older and therefore carry 1881 01:31:10,720 --> 01:31:13,240 Speaker 5: out a whole lot of risk in them. So those 1882 01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:15,760 Speaker 5: are players that would be available to the Marlins, and 1883 01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:18,280 Speaker 5: I think affordable. But just the downside is pretty big 1884 01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:21,800 Speaker 5: when you're that deep into your thirties, Matt Chapman is 1885 01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:24,400 Speaker 5: one of the biggest position player names out there, but 1886 01:31:24,479 --> 01:31:26,040 Speaker 5: he's a guy that I think would be out of 1887 01:31:26,040 --> 01:31:28,840 Speaker 5: their price range. If they don't trade for Condo Lario, 1888 01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:30,880 Speaker 5: or even if they especially if they do, I mean 1889 01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:33,080 Speaker 5: Condo Lario is due to be a free agent this 1890 01:31:33,160 --> 01:31:35,120 Speaker 5: time around, then that would be somebody that I do 1891 01:31:35,160 --> 01:31:38,560 Speaker 5: think they could afford, and somebody who at least defensively 1892 01:31:38,560 --> 01:31:41,719 Speaker 5: at third base, would be better than their current internal 1893 01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:45,519 Speaker 5: options including Segura, and offensively, you think he's a pretty 1894 01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:48,360 Speaker 5: big upgrade there as well, just as an overall player 1895 01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:52,519 Speaker 5: who's because of the inconsistency of his career, would be 1896 01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:55,960 Speaker 5: somebody that's affordable. So no, I would kind of the 1897 01:31:56,200 --> 01:31:59,320 Speaker 5: free agent class isn't quite as bad as it was 1898 01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:02,639 Speaker 5: projected to be. Even guys in the outfield like Tommy 1899 01:32:02,680 --> 01:32:05,360 Speaker 5: fam is having a better year than expected. Jack Peterson 1900 01:32:05,439 --> 01:32:09,000 Speaker 5: is going to be available next year, and aside from 1901 01:32:09,080 --> 01:32:11,280 Speaker 5: and of course Cody Bellinger is the one who's improved 1902 01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:14,280 Speaker 5: his stock so much. That'll be a really interesting one 1903 01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:16,320 Speaker 5: where I think he's kind of on the line between 1904 01:32:16,360 --> 01:32:19,840 Speaker 5: somebody that's realistically affordable and somebody that isn't. I think 1905 01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:21,680 Speaker 5: The main detern is going to be the length of 1906 01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:24,599 Speaker 5: the deal that he's in play for. I think he's 1907 01:32:24,640 --> 01:32:28,439 Speaker 5: somebody that's going to pretty easily get five six years 1908 01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:32,480 Speaker 5: because of fact he's only twenty eight years old heading. 1909 01:32:32,240 --> 01:32:33,200 Speaker 6: Into this offseason. 1910 01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:39,360 Speaker 5: No, there's some interesting guys out there. The big one 1911 01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:41,400 Speaker 5: of the big factors here is what they do with Jazz, 1912 01:32:41,439 --> 01:32:44,120 Speaker 5: whether they leave Jazz in center field or whether he's 1913 01:32:44,120 --> 01:32:46,479 Speaker 5: coming back to the infield, and how to move the 1914 01:32:46,479 --> 01:32:52,439 Speaker 5: pieces around there corresponding to him. Yeah, it is, there's 1915 01:32:52,479 --> 01:32:56,479 Speaker 5: not a whole lot of It's an interesting group, but 1916 01:32:56,560 --> 01:32:59,320 Speaker 5: I do again agree with Grant that trades are going 1917 01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:01,920 Speaker 5: to be an important piece of this. They're just in 1918 01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:04,840 Speaker 5: a tough spot overall though, because the farm system, as 1919 01:33:04,840 --> 01:33:06,519 Speaker 5: we've touched on, is not in good shape. So they 1920 01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:09,360 Speaker 5: don't even have as much trade capital this coming off 1921 01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:11,720 Speaker 5: season as they had this past off season. Unless some 1922 01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:14,080 Speaker 5: guys really pop at the end of this minor league season, 1923 01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:16,120 Speaker 5: they don't have a whole lot of trips. They'd have 1924 01:33:16,120 --> 01:33:18,880 Speaker 5: to get really creative in trading from their big lea groster, 1925 01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:21,080 Speaker 5: and that's the thing that they don't really want to 1926 01:33:21,120 --> 01:33:21,479 Speaker 5: do now. 1927 01:33:21,560 --> 01:33:23,320 Speaker 6: Obviously, when they're in the middle of. 1928 01:33:23,280 --> 01:33:26,040 Speaker 5: The race, but come the off season they do have 1929 01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:28,280 Speaker 5: some creative trade options. When it comes to these pictures, 1930 01:33:28,360 --> 01:33:31,160 Speaker 5: you know they do have in the organization, they have 1931 01:33:31,200 --> 01:33:33,360 Speaker 5: a surplus of starting pictures. The problem is at this 1932 01:33:33,479 --> 01:33:36,559 Speaker 5: moment they don't have a surplus of healthy starting pictures 1933 01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:39,040 Speaker 5: that you can rely on for endings down the stretch. 1934 01:33:39,280 --> 01:33:42,759 Speaker 5: So once again and for the foreseeable future, there's always 1935 01:33:42,760 --> 01:33:45,360 Speaker 5: going to be rumors about them using their pictures to 1936 01:33:45,400 --> 01:33:49,759 Speaker 5: get more bats in trade. It doesn't feel it's difficult 1937 01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:51,800 Speaker 5: to do here at this deadline, but that's something that's 1938 01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:53,559 Speaker 5: going to be on the table for sure in the 1939 01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:54,160 Speaker 5: off season. 1940 01:33:54,960 --> 01:33:57,679 Speaker 13: So the only other thing to mention that Eli didn't say, 1941 01:33:57,760 --> 01:34:00,240 Speaker 13: I would agree with the names that you mentioned as 1942 01:34:00,280 --> 01:34:02,320 Speaker 13: being probably some of the main guys. 1943 01:34:02,360 --> 01:34:03,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you can point to some. 1944 01:34:03,280 --> 01:34:05,160 Speaker 4: Other guys as well that are going to be free 1945 01:34:05,200 --> 01:34:06,920 Speaker 4: agents which are kind. 1946 01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:09,280 Speaker 1: Of lower down. He guysa Isaiah Kinder for LEFA. 1947 01:34:09,320 --> 01:34:11,479 Speaker 13: You got Brandon Cropper, so he has names like that 1948 01:34:11,479 --> 01:34:13,880 Speaker 13: that are kind of lower down. But my only other 1949 01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:15,800 Speaker 13: question would be what is for his SILI are going 1950 01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:17,679 Speaker 13: to do with this player option, right. 1951 01:34:17,840 --> 01:34:20,800 Speaker 4: So does he accept it? Does he go somewhere else. 1952 01:34:20,840 --> 01:34:22,400 Speaker 4: Does he think he can gets something somewhere else. 1953 01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:25,519 Speaker 13: That's another main factor to consider when you go into 1954 01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:26,160 Speaker 13: the offseason. 1955 01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:29,600 Speaker 1: So just keep that in mind that it is in 1956 01:34:29,680 --> 01:34:30,120 Speaker 1: his court. 1957 01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:30,479 Speaker 4: It is in. 1958 01:34:30,520 --> 01:34:33,080 Speaker 1: Selaire's court on what he wants to do. Does he 1959 01:34:33,120 --> 01:34:35,000 Speaker 1: want to stay here? How far do the Marlins go? 1960 01:34:35,320 --> 01:34:37,599 Speaker 13: I think his decision is going to be based on 1961 01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:39,480 Speaker 13: how far this team goes into the playoffs. 1962 01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:41,360 Speaker 1: If this team can prove that it's a winner and 1963 01:34:41,479 --> 01:34:42,920 Speaker 1: go into. 1964 01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:45,639 Speaker 4: The playoffs, at least, maybe he would come back. If 1965 01:34:45,640 --> 01:34:48,200 Speaker 4: this team doesn't make the playoffs, I don't know if 1966 01:34:48,200 --> 01:34:49,720 Speaker 4: he would accept the player option. I don't know if 1967 01:34:49,760 --> 01:34:52,120 Speaker 4: he would take it. So that's gonna be another main 1968 01:34:52,160 --> 01:34:53,400 Speaker 4: thing to think about when you. 1969 01:34:53,360 --> 01:34:54,080 Speaker 1: Go into the off season. 1970 01:34:55,479 --> 01:34:58,959 Speaker 2: We've got Jo yeah, when he was request at all spaces, 1971 01:34:59,080 --> 01:35:00,880 Speaker 2: So whenever. 1972 01:35:00,479 --> 01:35:03,080 Speaker 1: You're ready to see Yeah. 1973 01:35:03,479 --> 01:35:06,679 Speaker 15: You guys were talking yesterday about how the Marlins would 1974 01:35:06,680 --> 01:35:08,840 Speaker 15: have like no chance of pulling off like a mega 1975 01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:10,760 Speaker 15: trade for like a soda or something based off of 1976 01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:14,639 Speaker 15: their farm system. But would you see any situation where 1977 01:35:14,680 --> 01:35:17,640 Speaker 15: we would start a trade with Jazz in there and 1978 01:35:17,680 --> 01:35:19,040 Speaker 15: get out of this albatross. 1979 01:35:19,120 --> 01:35:20,880 Speaker 1: I know everyone in the world loves him. 1980 01:35:20,800 --> 01:35:24,519 Speaker 15: But I think he's severely overrated, and then there's a 1981 01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:24,960 Speaker 15: way to. 1982 01:35:25,479 --> 01:35:28,240 Speaker 1: Do something with that. Now, I think it would be 1983 01:35:28,479 --> 01:35:34,040 Speaker 1: an all in type situation. You're speaking language here. 1984 01:35:34,439 --> 01:35:38,160 Speaker 2: Yes, I will that you go to fish off first 1985 01:35:38,200 --> 01:35:42,160 Speaker 2: dot com and read my latest trade piece on who 1986 01:35:42,280 --> 01:35:45,320 Speaker 2: the Marlins realistic get on. So the answer couldn't actually 1987 01:35:45,320 --> 01:35:48,519 Speaker 2: surpribe you, but I did explore a possibility. And do 1988 01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:52,479 Speaker 2: you headline that package with Jass because uh, they well 1989 01:35:52,479 --> 01:35:54,040 Speaker 2: why is very very well your question? 1990 01:35:54,240 --> 01:35:57,479 Speaker 1: I would I don't. I don't think you exploit right now. 1991 01:35:57,600 --> 01:35:59,679 Speaker 2: I don't know if he can just because it's injury situation, 1992 01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:03,160 Speaker 2: but the off season absolutely, I think you look to 1993 01:36:03,200 --> 01:36:05,559 Speaker 2: capitalize on his peaking value because you also look at. 1994 01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:06,280 Speaker 1: It this way. 1995 01:36:06,439 --> 01:36:09,720 Speaker 2: The Marlins mark I want to extend everyone and at 1996 01:36:09,720 --> 01:36:12,160 Speaker 2: one time, especially at one time. Actually, I guess that's 1997 01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:14,880 Speaker 2: kind of a dumb thing to say, like they aren't 1998 01:36:14,880 --> 01:36:16,760 Speaker 2: gonna extend every young player to be on. 1999 01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:19,479 Speaker 1: I'd say your top two candidates. 2000 01:36:18,920 --> 01:36:22,400 Speaker 2: Right now are a rise in bizarose of your guys 2001 01:36:22,400 --> 01:36:26,360 Speaker 2: you're gonna get I don't know, Well, he's got some 2002 01:36:26,439 --> 01:36:31,080 Speaker 2: control conversation as well, but guys who are starting to 2003 01:36:31,120 --> 01:36:35,040 Speaker 2: lose some control Bizarro and a rise. You gotta start 2004 01:36:35,080 --> 01:36:37,360 Speaker 2: talking to him as soon as possible, I believe, and 2005 01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:39,479 Speaker 2: Sandy's already taken care of those are your guys you 2006 01:36:39,520 --> 01:36:42,240 Speaker 2: need to talk to. What has Jazz done. 2007 01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:45,960 Speaker 1: With her an extension a whole lot, in my opinion. 2008 01:36:45,680 --> 01:36:48,519 Speaker 2: So if you want to capitalize on a steak value 2009 01:36:48,520 --> 01:36:52,080 Speaker 2: before the entire league notices that he just can't stay healthy. 2010 01:36:52,600 --> 01:36:54,560 Speaker 1: I like your idea. I like where you're at that. 2011 01:36:56,479 --> 01:36:58,320 Speaker 1: I mean, he's on the cover of the video game. 2012 01:36:58,439 --> 01:37:03,240 Speaker 15: He's gonna want money, and honestly, I think his his 2013 01:37:03,240 --> 01:37:07,240 Speaker 15: his peak. I think his star and he wants to 2014 01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:10,640 Speaker 15: be in the superstars level, and I think he's just 2015 01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:13,120 Speaker 15: a star. He's not going to be a superstar, and 2016 01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:15,280 Speaker 15: I think we got to figure out a way to 2017 01:37:15,439 --> 01:37:18,320 Speaker 15: maximize getting out of this before, you know, before the 2018 01:37:18,360 --> 01:37:19,320 Speaker 15: money comes. 2019 01:37:20,479 --> 01:37:23,639 Speaker 4: Let me let me ask you a serious question, though, Josh, 2020 01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:25,120 Speaker 4: And this is a great question, by the way, So 2021 01:37:25,240 --> 01:37:27,320 Speaker 4: kudos to you for bringing up this name in terms 2022 01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:29,320 Speaker 4: of a guy that they could let go. It's not 2023 01:37:29,400 --> 01:37:31,400 Speaker 4: something that any Marlins fan wants to hear, but it 2024 01:37:31,479 --> 01:37:34,280 Speaker 4: is very realistic. I would like to. 2025 01:37:34,280 --> 01:37:37,080 Speaker 1: Think in terms of yes, it's a marketable player. 2026 01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:39,639 Speaker 13: What's he done on the field when he's been healthy, 2027 01:37:39,800 --> 01:37:42,920 Speaker 13: He's been pretty good. When he's not been healthy, it's 2028 01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:45,320 Speaker 13: been an issue, and the health has been a sure 2029 01:37:45,400 --> 01:37:49,280 Speaker 13: issue for this player. So what I would say is 2030 01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:52,280 Speaker 13: what what I would ask you is what has this 2031 01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:54,760 Speaker 13: player done for Miami. 2032 01:37:54,960 --> 01:37:57,200 Speaker 4: To show that he is a superstar. That's my main 2033 01:37:57,280 --> 01:38:00,640 Speaker 4: question for you. That's a well, I think I'm the 2034 01:38:00,680 --> 01:38:03,080 Speaker 4: wrong person to ask. I think everyone in their mom 2035 01:38:03,160 --> 01:38:04,160 Speaker 4: I think he is. 2036 01:38:04,040 --> 01:38:08,040 Speaker 15: The man, and I don't think he has really shown 2037 01:38:08,080 --> 01:38:10,839 Speaker 15: that yet. He's not shown me that he's Ronald Acuna. 2038 01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:14,320 Speaker 15: And he thinks he is, and he has shown that. 2039 01:38:14,520 --> 01:38:17,920 Speaker 15: You know, he's got some great potential, but I just 2040 01:38:18,040 --> 01:38:20,479 Speaker 15: don't think the ceilings there, even if healthy. 2041 01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:23,200 Speaker 1: I don't think he is a Kuna and that's who 2042 01:38:23,200 --> 01:38:23,920 Speaker 1: he thinks he is. 2043 01:38:24,680 --> 01:38:27,880 Speaker 4: The the the sheer reality of this situation, I agree 2044 01:38:27,920 --> 01:38:29,840 Speaker 4: with you, by the way, But the sheer reality of 2045 01:38:29,840 --> 01:38:33,479 Speaker 4: the situation is that right now, today, right now, when 2046 01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:36,680 Speaker 4: we're talking today, the Marlins have lost the trade. They 2047 01:38:36,720 --> 01:38:39,200 Speaker 4: did not win this trade with Zach Allen. They've lost 2048 01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:41,840 Speaker 4: this trade for Zach Gallen. And we've said that a 2049 01:38:41,840 --> 01:38:46,200 Speaker 4: lot about Marlin's trades for promising players in the past, 2050 01:38:46,479 --> 01:38:47,559 Speaker 4: and here here it is again. 2051 01:38:47,640 --> 01:38:48,760 Speaker 1: We're saying it again. 2052 01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:52,679 Speaker 4: That the Marlins have lost, definitely right now lost the trade. 2053 01:38:52,920 --> 01:38:53,920 Speaker 1: Can they get it back. 2054 01:38:54,400 --> 01:38:58,000 Speaker 4: It's possible, because Jazz definitely does have the ability, But 2055 01:38:58,720 --> 01:39:00,400 Speaker 4: now you have him in center field, he's at a 2056 01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:04,479 Speaker 4: much more demanding position, and he's still getting hurt. And 2057 01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:07,360 Speaker 4: that is a that is a true problem. It really 2058 01:39:07,439 --> 01:39:09,719 Speaker 4: is is that the Marlins put this guy in center 2059 01:39:09,760 --> 01:39:12,479 Speaker 4: field thinking that he could do it. The Marlins also 2060 01:39:12,520 --> 01:39:15,880 Speaker 4: continue to run this guy out, you know, after last 2061 01:39:15,960 --> 01:39:18,519 Speaker 4: year in sprint training when he was apparently hurt at 2062 01:39:18,560 --> 01:39:19,559 Speaker 4: second base and. 2063 01:39:19,520 --> 01:39:21,400 Speaker 1: Then he got hurt and missed the entire second half. 2064 01:39:21,640 --> 01:39:24,880 Speaker 4: There there is a true worry here about this player's longevity, 2065 01:39:25,240 --> 01:39:27,240 Speaker 4: about this player's ability to. 2066 01:39:27,280 --> 01:39:30,879 Speaker 1: Stick over the course of a full season. And it's 2067 01:39:31,240 --> 01:39:33,400 Speaker 1: very worrisome. So you're right, I. 2068 01:39:33,320 --> 01:39:36,840 Speaker 4: Would not say that Jazz Chisholm, even though he's injured. 2069 01:39:36,840 --> 01:39:39,519 Speaker 1: I would not say, especially if you can get. 2070 01:39:39,360 --> 01:39:42,559 Speaker 4: It back, you know, a superstar, like Grant has said 2071 01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:43,280 Speaker 4: in Soto, I don't. 2072 01:39:43,320 --> 01:39:46,240 Speaker 13: I don't think it's realistic, but Grant said it's more 2073 01:39:46,280 --> 01:39:48,120 Speaker 13: realistic than you think. In his article, and he made 2074 01:39:48,120 --> 01:39:52,439 Speaker 13: good points. But man, uh, it's it's going to be 2075 01:39:52,479 --> 01:39:54,880 Speaker 13: interesting to see what the future holds for this player, 2076 01:39:55,360 --> 01:39:59,920 Speaker 13: because man, yes, he's he's he has a great person. 2077 01:40:00,479 --> 01:40:02,479 Speaker 13: He's on the cover of a video game like you said, 2078 01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:05,120 Speaker 13: all of that other stuff. He's very marketable, like you said. 2079 01:40:05,120 --> 01:40:06,799 Speaker 13: So he does a lot of stuff behind the scenes, 2080 01:40:07,040 --> 01:40:09,479 Speaker 13: but on the field it's been a letdown, Bro. So 2081 01:40:09,560 --> 01:40:11,280 Speaker 13: I don't know how you can say that this has 2082 01:40:11,320 --> 01:40:13,559 Speaker 13: been anything but a loss in this trade with Zach 2083 01:40:13,560 --> 01:40:14,160 Speaker 13: Allen so far. 2084 01:40:16,160 --> 01:40:19,519 Speaker 1: Okay, put up the good work. Thanks, Hey, we appreciate it. Man, 2085 01:40:19,680 --> 01:40:22,519 Speaker 1: that's a very good question. We will bring you in. 2086 01:40:24,280 --> 01:40:28,599 Speaker 2: This gentleman right here, who's got a Islandji, mister island, 2087 01:40:28,880 --> 01:40:32,840 Speaker 2: he's leaning in. I'm gonna mute Isaac. Dude's in the 2088 01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:36,240 Speaker 2: middle of the college seams, bro, he's always in his corp. 2089 01:40:36,800 --> 01:40:39,320 Speaker 2: You guys, well done, Carver. I agree with everything you 2090 01:40:39,400 --> 01:40:39,800 Speaker 2: just said. 2091 01:40:40,200 --> 01:40:42,240 Speaker 4: I've never agreed with you more on a certain topic 2092 01:40:42,280 --> 01:40:46,120 Speaker 4: than I did just He said it perfectly, and. 2093 01:40:47,800 --> 01:40:50,439 Speaker 2: He's remarkably He's what the Marls needed at a pretty 2094 01:40:50,520 --> 01:40:53,639 Speaker 2: rough time in terms of image. 2095 01:40:53,840 --> 01:40:56,120 Speaker 1: I guess whereas they trade at all their stars didn't 2096 01:40:56,120 --> 01:40:58,920 Speaker 1: really have anyone to represent and face the team. 2097 01:40:58,920 --> 01:41:01,360 Speaker 2: And definitely shate what he's done there, but he hasn't 2098 01:41:01,400 --> 01:41:03,040 Speaker 2: shown that he's been healthy and from. 2099 01:41:02,840 --> 01:41:08,360 Speaker 1: A business perspective, makes us explore what his value could 2100 01:41:08,439 --> 01:41:09,799 Speaker 1: be in the off season. 2101 01:41:09,840 --> 01:41:11,840 Speaker 2: If you haven't read my article on fish on first 2102 01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:14,880 Speaker 2: dot Com, where I suggest is that you know, maybe 2103 01:41:14,880 --> 01:41:19,080 Speaker 2: you headline him for Juan Sota, go ahead and read it. 2104 01:41:19,360 --> 01:41:20,679 Speaker 1: We brought up some fabulous points. 2105 01:41:20,680 --> 01:41:22,120 Speaker 2: There's a name in there, but you guys are probably 2106 01:41:22,120 --> 01:41:25,320 Speaker 2: gonna be mad that I mentioned he might be a 2107 01:41:25,400 --> 01:41:27,240 Speaker 2: certain guy Sanchise. 2108 01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:30,600 Speaker 1: But go read the article. We really explored the opportunity. 2109 01:41:30,920 --> 01:41:32,880 Speaker 1: What what does that say, Grant? I mean, yes, and 2110 01:41:32,920 --> 01:41:33,559 Speaker 1: I know that Jazz. 2111 01:41:33,680 --> 01:41:35,000 Speaker 4: This is the last I'll say, because knew you got 2112 01:41:35,040 --> 01:41:35,839 Speaker 4: to get to another speaker. 2113 01:41:35,880 --> 01:41:37,200 Speaker 1: But this is the last I'll say. 2114 01:41:37,240 --> 01:41:39,479 Speaker 13: What does that say about the fact that we're getting 2115 01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:41,760 Speaker 13: more upset about treating Peter Sanchez? 2116 01:41:42,280 --> 01:41:45,240 Speaker 1: It does about maybe including Jazz and the trade. 2117 01:41:45,000 --> 01:41:47,640 Speaker 2: Company's best ability is availability? 2118 01:41:47,840 --> 01:41:50,040 Speaker 1: Has Jazz has been available? 2119 01:41:50,439 --> 01:41:50,639 Speaker 12: No? 2120 01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:54,240 Speaker 2: Exactly last I'll say, honest, So make this so we 2121 01:41:54,320 --> 01:41:55,800 Speaker 2: got our new speaker in here. 2122 01:41:56,240 --> 01:42:03,040 Speaker 1: What's your question, my man? If you there. 2123 01:42:03,800 --> 01:42:08,960 Speaker 11: So my question is regarding the bullpen situation we've seen 2124 01:42:09,040 --> 01:42:12,479 Speaker 11: Puck struggle. I mean, it's looking like the seventh or 2125 01:42:12,520 --> 01:42:15,599 Speaker 11: eighth outing where he's just looked terrible on I'm wondering 2126 01:42:15,640 --> 01:42:17,920 Speaker 11: if Ski Skip is just gonna take him out of 2127 01:42:17,960 --> 01:42:21,000 Speaker 11: the rotation of the bullpen and once Nardi comes back, 2128 01:42:21,040 --> 01:42:24,360 Speaker 11: it will be something like Nardi Scott, you know, Honey 2129 01:42:24,439 --> 01:42:27,960 Speaker 11: Lopez and Robertson. Because I mean, this guy just gives 2130 01:42:28,040 --> 01:42:28,479 Speaker 11: up a run. 2131 01:42:28,520 --> 01:42:31,479 Speaker 16: It's it's it's it's a guarantee every single time that 2132 01:42:31,560 --> 01:42:33,760 Speaker 16: he comes out on the mount and he gives up 2133 01:42:33,760 --> 01:42:35,720 Speaker 16: a run, and I just I just want to hear 2134 01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:40,920 Speaker 16: guys his thoughts about that. 2135 01:42:40,920 --> 01:42:43,759 Speaker 5: That is what I'd encourage him to do. It usually 2136 01:42:43,800 --> 01:42:46,240 Speaker 5: never works like this. It's usually the guy that is 2137 01:42:46,240 --> 01:42:50,679 Speaker 5: the closer. They don't do anything drastic at any points. 2138 01:42:50,760 --> 01:42:53,479 Speaker 5: They continue to try to put him in a position 2139 01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:55,080 Speaker 5: to regain his old role as. 2140 01:42:55,000 --> 01:42:55,719 Speaker 6: Soon as possible. 2141 01:42:56,040 --> 01:42:58,840 Speaker 5: But with Puck, this is such an extended struggle and 2142 01:42:59,360 --> 01:43:02,600 Speaker 5: losing games of so many different ways. Like to me, 2143 01:43:02,760 --> 01:43:04,840 Speaker 5: it is pretty apparent that he's the weakest link in 2144 01:43:04,880 --> 01:43:07,640 Speaker 5: this bullpen and should be used as such until he 2145 01:43:07,680 --> 01:43:11,960 Speaker 5: has some measure of success before even thinking about putting 2146 01:43:12,040 --> 01:43:14,680 Speaker 5: him back in those situations. And that's why Tay was 2147 01:43:14,720 --> 01:43:17,599 Speaker 5: a head scratcher today. Putting him in a relatively important 2148 01:43:17,600 --> 01:43:20,640 Speaker 5: situation with a one run lead facing kind of the 2149 01:43:20,640 --> 01:43:26,040 Speaker 5: middle of the Tigers lineup, it's just baffling because you 2150 01:43:26,120 --> 01:43:29,479 Speaker 5: can kind of see what is happening. It's somebody that 2151 01:43:29,640 --> 01:43:32,240 Speaker 5: is severely struggling. It's not just luck, and it's not 2152 01:43:32,280 --> 01:43:35,160 Speaker 5: just one particular thing or one particular pitch or a 2153 01:43:35,160 --> 01:43:39,280 Speaker 5: particular matchup. He's just yeah, he's not finishing his pitches 2154 01:43:39,320 --> 01:43:42,519 Speaker 5: the same way, and he's not inducing the soft contact 2155 01:43:42,560 --> 01:43:43,880 Speaker 5: or the swings and misses that it used to. 2156 01:43:43,960 --> 01:43:47,080 Speaker 6: He just can't be trusted whatsoever. But the Bullpen I 2157 01:43:47,120 --> 01:43:50,360 Speaker 6: think is that they can now if they choose to. 2158 01:43:50,560 --> 01:43:53,880 Speaker 5: They can now like bury him in that mop up 2159 01:43:53,920 --> 01:43:56,479 Speaker 5: situation if they want to, now that Nardi is coming back, 2160 01:43:56,520 --> 01:43:59,360 Speaker 5: and now that Robertson and Lopez are in the mix. 2161 01:43:59,760 --> 01:44:01,920 Speaker 6: I have no clue if they would actually do it. 2162 01:44:02,680 --> 01:44:03,160 Speaker 6: I would. 2163 01:44:03,320 --> 01:44:05,760 Speaker 5: I still think that they hold out hope that they 2164 01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:08,880 Speaker 5: can make one little tweak and get Puck back on board. 2165 01:44:09,240 --> 01:44:10,639 Speaker 6: But it's there. 2166 01:44:10,760 --> 01:44:13,479 Speaker 5: It's really hard to overstate how bad he has been 2167 01:44:13,560 --> 01:44:16,599 Speaker 5: for now several weeks now, not just struggling, but struggling 2168 01:44:16,640 --> 01:44:19,800 Speaker 5: in these most important situations in a way that has 2169 01:44:19,880 --> 01:44:23,559 Speaker 5: made him arguably like the least valuable pitcher in baseball. 2170 01:44:23,840 --> 01:44:27,599 Speaker 5: He has turned several wins and losses, and he has 2171 01:44:27,640 --> 01:44:30,920 Speaker 5: put several possible wins in jeopardy like he did today, 2172 01:44:31,280 --> 01:44:34,120 Speaker 5: even though they ultimately prevailed thanks to the rest of 2173 01:44:34,120 --> 01:44:37,800 Speaker 5: the supporting cast. Yeah, it's turned to really ugly for him. Unfortunately. 2174 01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:39,479 Speaker 5: I mean the silvil lining is they still have him 2175 01:44:39,479 --> 01:44:42,360 Speaker 5: around beyond this year. So even if he doesn't get 2176 01:44:42,360 --> 01:44:44,760 Speaker 5: it back down the stretch, even if they by the 2177 01:44:44,840 --> 01:44:48,400 Speaker 5: end of this year, they simply he doesn't figure it out, 2178 01:44:48,880 --> 01:44:51,360 Speaker 5: they do have time to get the best out of 2179 01:44:51,400 --> 01:44:53,880 Speaker 5: him in the future because it's really not that long 2180 01:44:53,880 --> 01:44:56,680 Speaker 5: ago where he was super effective. But this is a 2181 01:44:56,720 --> 01:44:59,240 Speaker 5: really unusual case. I just want to hammer that home. 2182 01:44:59,240 --> 01:45:01,599 Speaker 5: This is unusual for somebody to be as good as 2183 01:45:01,640 --> 01:45:05,559 Speaker 5: he was for several months and then go entirely the 2184 01:45:05,600 --> 01:45:09,599 Speaker 5: other way around for an entire month right after that. 2185 01:45:10,040 --> 01:45:14,240 Speaker 5: So it's it's fascinating and well, unfortunately it's it's a 2186 01:45:14,280 --> 01:45:16,880 Speaker 5: big challenge for this team. So thankfully they were out 2187 01:45:16,920 --> 01:45:18,800 Speaker 5: in front of that issue instead of waiting all the 2188 01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:25,200 Speaker 5: way down to the deadline, appreciate it. 2189 01:45:25,240 --> 01:45:28,040 Speaker 2: I mean, I got one more question of surrounding Jack Flarerity. 2190 01:45:28,080 --> 01:45:30,519 Speaker 11: I know he's a free agent after this year, so 2191 01:45:30,560 --> 01:45:33,000 Speaker 11: I'm wondering what kind of package. 2192 01:45:34,640 --> 01:45:36,960 Speaker 1: What would look like, you know, to get. 2193 01:45:36,800 --> 01:45:40,519 Speaker 11: Somebody like that, Considering he's a free agent after the year, 2194 01:45:44,240 --> 01:45:45,200 Speaker 11: That's a good question. 2195 01:45:45,479 --> 01:45:47,479 Speaker 4: I really don't know what the picture market looks like. 2196 01:45:47,520 --> 01:45:49,160 Speaker 4: What was the return on Montgomery. 2197 01:45:49,200 --> 01:45:52,360 Speaker 6: I did not see what the return was well with him. 2198 01:45:52,400 --> 01:45:55,720 Speaker 5: They did bundle him with the reliever Chris Stratton in 2199 01:45:55,800 --> 01:45:57,519 Speaker 5: order to maximize him a little more, and I think 2200 01:45:57,520 --> 01:46:00,559 Speaker 5: that's what they would do with Clarity too. As I 2201 01:46:00,600 --> 01:46:02,800 Speaker 5: mentioned earlier in the space, is bundling him with one 2202 01:46:02,800 --> 01:46:05,160 Speaker 5: of the hitters that the Cardinals have, like a Paul 2203 01:46:05,200 --> 01:46:07,680 Speaker 5: de Young who can give them a little bit more 2204 01:46:07,720 --> 01:46:11,280 Speaker 5: offense in the infield. That would make me more comfortable 2205 01:46:11,280 --> 01:46:13,479 Speaker 5: actually giving up one of the Marlins better prospects in 2206 01:46:13,479 --> 01:46:17,519 Speaker 5: return for somebody like Flarity. So I think that's what 2207 01:46:17,560 --> 01:46:20,879 Speaker 5: they're trying to do the Cardinals. They've got three players 2208 01:46:20,920 --> 01:46:25,800 Speaker 5: in return, and two of them being prospects, two that 2209 01:46:25,920 --> 01:46:29,840 Speaker 5: were relatively well regarded prospects, but nobody from the very 2210 01:46:29,880 --> 01:46:31,599 Speaker 5: top of their farm. And then they got a separate 2211 01:46:31,720 --> 01:46:36,080 Speaker 5: left hander pitching John King. Not really familiar with John King. 2212 01:46:36,200 --> 01:46:38,960 Speaker 5: He's been a pretty mediocre guy over the course of 2213 01:46:39,000 --> 01:46:44,280 Speaker 5: his career with them, So they got a decent return. Like, yeah, 2214 01:46:44,479 --> 01:46:47,760 Speaker 5: that is a it's a realistic target. But for this 2215 01:46:47,840 --> 01:46:50,559 Speaker 5: Marlins team, they've already made that one deal, getting a 2216 01:46:50,600 --> 01:46:54,080 Speaker 5: pure rental and Robertson while giving up to decent prospects 2217 01:46:54,080 --> 01:46:56,880 Speaker 5: in return. I think they want to any other pending 2218 01:46:56,920 --> 01:46:59,200 Speaker 5: for agents. I think they want to bundle them with 2219 01:46:59,520 --> 01:47:02,719 Speaker 5: an addition piece in order to make it more worth 2220 01:47:02,720 --> 01:47:05,240 Speaker 5: their while. They just don't have a whole lot of 2221 01:47:05,280 --> 01:47:07,080 Speaker 5: prospects to trade with in the first place, so they 2222 01:47:07,120 --> 01:47:09,439 Speaker 5: don't want to even though it's important for them to 2223 01:47:09,479 --> 01:47:14,200 Speaker 5: win this year. It's it's more defensible to push their 2224 01:47:14,280 --> 01:47:17,800 Speaker 5: chips in if they're actually like killing two birds with 2225 01:47:17,840 --> 01:47:20,439 Speaker 5: one stone. I guess that applies to the Cardinals. 2226 01:47:20,479 --> 01:47:21,040 Speaker 6: If they get a. 2227 01:47:20,960 --> 01:47:24,839 Speaker 5: Couple of Cardinals players in one somebody else along with Flarty, 2228 01:47:25,160 --> 01:47:27,559 Speaker 5: then I think that makes you more comfortable in terms 2229 01:47:27,600 --> 01:47:31,080 Speaker 5: of like particular names. You have the same guys that 2230 01:47:31,360 --> 01:47:34,280 Speaker 5: have been brought up and rumors already like Carson mill 2231 01:47:34,360 --> 01:47:38,320 Speaker 5: Brandt and Jacob Miller, their early round draft picks from 2232 01:47:38,439 --> 01:47:40,680 Speaker 5: last year on the pitching side, who are now a 2233 01:47:40,720 --> 01:47:44,880 Speaker 5: little bit redundant in this farm system. Patrick Monsiverde, we've 2234 01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:47,840 Speaker 5: brought him up before as well, and now that he's 2235 01:47:47,880 --> 01:47:51,000 Speaker 5: at Triple A. He wouldn't put him in your rotation 2236 01:47:51,080 --> 01:47:53,280 Speaker 5: right away, but as soon as next year. That's somebody 2237 01:47:53,280 --> 01:47:55,160 Speaker 5: that I imagine would have a lot of appeal to 2238 01:47:55,200 --> 01:47:57,559 Speaker 5: the Cardinals. Yeah, at this point, they've traded a couple 2239 01:47:57,640 --> 01:48:01,200 Speaker 5: of their only good hitting prospects, so whatever it is. 2240 01:48:01,120 --> 01:48:03,280 Speaker 6: You would expect to be very picture centric. 2241 01:48:06,200 --> 01:48:08,720 Speaker 4: Like just because I'm sure you know, I'm sorry, Dan, 2242 01:48:09,160 --> 01:48:11,600 Speaker 4: just because you know, I'm sure that the arm that 2243 01:48:12,160 --> 01:48:14,160 Speaker 4: Sam Louis acquired better than the rest of us. 2244 01:48:14,520 --> 01:48:25,000 Speaker 1: What would those you cut the Cardinals? Wait? Wait what 2245 01:48:25,160 --> 01:48:27,160 Speaker 1: say that again? I think you cut out for a second. 2246 01:48:27,720 --> 01:48:30,760 Speaker 4: Uh, the arms that the Cardinals acquired for Hicks, Like, 2247 01:48:30,760 --> 01:48:31,920 Speaker 4: what would you comp that to my? 2248 01:48:34,479 --> 01:48:36,599 Speaker 1: What? What would you comment on what the Cardinals? 2249 01:48:37,960 --> 01:48:39,639 Speaker 6: I gotta look at the Hicks trade. We weren't even 2250 01:48:39,640 --> 01:48:40,320 Speaker 6: talking about that trade. 2251 01:48:40,320 --> 01:48:43,599 Speaker 5: We were talking about the Montgomery Chris Stratton trade. 2252 01:48:44,040 --> 01:48:45,599 Speaker 6: But now looking at the Hicks one. 2253 01:48:45,600 --> 01:48:48,280 Speaker 4: Someone, yeah, you would have been going to package along 2254 01:48:48,320 --> 01:48:50,479 Speaker 4: with Flarerty. So that's why I'm just curious what Hicks 2255 01:48:50,560 --> 01:48:52,360 Speaker 4: was worth on the trade market. 2256 01:48:54,560 --> 01:48:57,479 Speaker 5: I don't know very much about these particular guys. I 2257 01:48:57,840 --> 01:49:00,559 Speaker 5: think they've already been Yeah, it's gonna be hard for me. 2258 01:49:00,720 --> 01:49:02,240 Speaker 5: I don't have an answer off the top of my. 2259 01:49:02,200 --> 01:49:02,920 Speaker 6: Head on that. 2260 01:49:04,000 --> 01:49:06,360 Speaker 1: The thing that I can say is how good is 2261 01:49:06,360 --> 01:49:07,559 Speaker 1: this Rangers team going to be? 2262 01:49:08,360 --> 01:49:12,120 Speaker 2: Geez like Rangers Braves World Series? 2263 01:49:12,760 --> 01:49:15,599 Speaker 13: Now, yeah, they get Church there and now they get 2264 01:49:15,680 --> 01:49:19,040 Speaker 13: joining Montgomery like what Like? I was so sad to 2265 01:49:19,080 --> 01:49:21,800 Speaker 13: see Montgomery go today. That was a name that I 2266 01:49:21,840 --> 01:49:23,559 Speaker 13: really thought the Marlins had a chance at. 2267 01:49:24,479 --> 01:49:28,280 Speaker 4: It's not happening. He's on the Texas Rangers, and that 2268 01:49:28,320 --> 01:49:30,920 Speaker 4: team is really gonna be good. 2269 01:49:31,160 --> 01:49:33,960 Speaker 1: So, man, if if you look at a at a. 2270 01:49:33,960 --> 01:49:37,400 Speaker 4: Second half favorite for a World Series at least birth, 2271 01:49:37,439 --> 01:49:42,360 Speaker 4: if not Championship, Texas Rangers, it has to be them. 2272 01:49:42,600 --> 01:49:49,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, any other question, cool? I appreciate it, just sir, 2273 01:49:49,320 --> 01:49:50,040 Speaker 1: thank you all right? 2274 01:49:50,120 --> 01:49:52,680 Speaker 2: Executive decisions for coming on two hours here, we did 2275 01:49:52,680 --> 01:49:54,559 Speaker 2: it two and a half hour space just a couple 2276 01:49:54,560 --> 01:49:57,520 Speaker 2: of weeks ago. Well, if you got her quest. I apologize. 2277 01:49:57,560 --> 01:50:01,240 Speaker 2: We do this every single sunning ran my man. He 2278 01:50:01,280 --> 01:50:04,960 Speaker 2: has a figure subscriber and quick congratulations and he called 2279 01:50:05,000 --> 01:50:08,000 Speaker 2: a little bit of the clear Water Crushers game the 2280 01:50:08,080 --> 01:50:11,280 Speaker 2: other night. What an honor that is even I haven't 2281 01:50:11,280 --> 01:50:14,240 Speaker 2: called minor league baseball a very very cool experience there. 2282 01:50:14,680 --> 01:50:17,559 Speaker 1: Uh, what's your question? Well, when the night with you 2283 01:50:17,600 --> 01:50:21,519 Speaker 1: will wrap up? Yeah, thanks you guys. So I was 2284 01:50:21,640 --> 01:50:24,360 Speaker 1: wondering when Nardi comes back. 2285 01:50:25,680 --> 01:50:27,479 Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys have been asked us yet. 2286 01:50:27,360 --> 01:50:29,200 Speaker 1: Because I just joined. I was watching the send a 2287 01:50:29,280 --> 01:50:30,439 Speaker 1: Night baseball game with my dad. 2288 01:50:30,479 --> 01:50:33,240 Speaker 2: But when Nardi comes back, who's gonna get sutted down? 2289 01:50:33,280 --> 01:50:34,599 Speaker 1: And you're in, you guys opinion? 2290 01:50:37,760 --> 01:50:41,639 Speaker 5: Probably brose Bon, Yes, says my guess as well, it's 2291 01:50:41,960 --> 01:50:43,320 Speaker 5: bras Bond or Soriano. 2292 01:50:43,400 --> 01:50:44,400 Speaker 6: But Soregano has. 2293 01:50:44,280 --> 01:50:47,519 Speaker 5: Been so good, even though he's been used. Even though 2294 01:50:47,560 --> 01:50:50,320 Speaker 5: Soriano has been used more recently, it's beginning to look 2295 01:50:50,800 --> 01:50:53,960 Speaker 5: really legit in his case, So it's it's almost definitely 2296 01:50:53,960 --> 01:50:54,800 Speaker 5: gonna be one of those two. 2297 01:50:55,120 --> 01:50:55,360 Speaker 6: Yeah. 2298 01:50:55,360 --> 01:50:58,479 Speaker 5: Thankfully with Tanner Scott they avoided an injury scare because 2299 01:50:58,680 --> 01:51:00,800 Speaker 5: we're worried that maybe he would go back on the 2300 01:51:00,840 --> 01:51:03,000 Speaker 5: ie L with his calf thing. But he proved today 2301 01:51:03,000 --> 01:51:07,040 Speaker 5: that he's fully healthy. So is it's Brazibon or it's Soriano. 2302 01:51:07,080 --> 01:51:10,559 Speaker 5: I could see you going either way, but I would 2303 01:51:11,280 --> 01:51:13,839 Speaker 5: my hope would be Brasibon because I feel like Soriano 2304 01:51:13,920 --> 01:51:15,360 Speaker 5: was really earned his spot. 2305 01:51:15,520 --> 01:51:18,479 Speaker 2: I have an idea that might be crowned upon, that 2306 01:51:18,640 --> 01:51:22,080 Speaker 2: might not be ethical, but go dieal sent for Puck. 2307 01:51:23,400 --> 01:51:26,760 Speaker 4: It can't be uh maybe maybe it's a good but 2308 01:51:26,920 --> 01:51:31,920 Speaker 4: it can't be can't be Soriano to pro provide multiple innings. 2309 01:51:31,920 --> 01:51:34,160 Speaker 4: Who saved a couple of games here already. 2310 01:51:35,160 --> 01:51:38,160 Speaker 1: It can't be Soriano. It has to be who Ascar Brasabon, 2311 01:51:39,080 --> 01:51:41,559 Speaker 1: who cannot go multiple innings? So yeah, I think the 2312 01:51:41,560 --> 01:51:45,639 Speaker 1: easy decision is Brazimon. Yeah, idea up at the top. 2313 01:51:46,439 --> 01:51:52,200 Speaker 17: Maybe that's what I I was about to say. I 2314 01:51:52,240 --> 01:51:54,799 Speaker 17: was about to say I wasn't gonna mention the phantom 2315 01:51:54,840 --> 01:51:56,560 Speaker 17: my l for Puck. I mentioned that a couple of 2316 01:51:56,560 --> 01:51:59,280 Speaker 17: people earlier today when he was struggling, And the other 2317 01:51:59,320 --> 01:52:03,400 Speaker 17: idea I had j Shagua. He has just not been 2318 01:52:03,439 --> 01:52:06,080 Speaker 17: able to get the ground balls or get left handed 2319 01:52:06,120 --> 01:52:08,639 Speaker 17: batters out at any stretch, and you know, his whole 2320 01:52:08,680 --> 01:52:11,320 Speaker 17: thing is getting ground balls, and when he's not getting them, 2321 01:52:11,360 --> 01:52:13,880 Speaker 17: he's basically at this point. 2322 01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:17,719 Speaker 1: So I think they have to consider either Punk or Chagua. 2323 01:52:17,880 --> 01:52:20,479 Speaker 1: So when they sent down Okert's been doing fine. The 2324 01:52:20,520 --> 01:52:22,280 Speaker 1: rest of the pen has been doing fine. Bronze one 2325 01:52:22,280 --> 01:52:23,120 Speaker 1: has even been doing fine. 2326 01:52:23,640 --> 01:52:25,320 Speaker 4: To send out, Sir Riano, I a goo with carvering 2327 01:52:25,400 --> 01:52:27,840 Speaker 4: you guys, but I think you have to consider either 2328 01:52:27,840 --> 01:52:30,000 Speaker 4: Shaguar or pot that you have to. 2329 01:52:32,520 --> 01:52:34,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to go out or well. 2330 01:52:35,600 --> 01:52:38,080 Speaker 6: I hate to burst your bubble, but Chagua is out 2331 01:52:38,080 --> 01:52:39,960 Speaker 6: of options. You can't send him down. 2332 01:52:40,040 --> 01:52:41,839 Speaker 5: That's the reason why he was traded to the Marlins 2333 01:52:41,880 --> 01:52:45,440 Speaker 5: in the first place. Because the Rays like they're optional relievers. 2334 01:52:45,840 --> 01:52:48,400 Speaker 5: You can't send him down. He's had options. Okert, for 2335 01:52:48,479 --> 01:52:50,040 Speaker 5: the record, has been out of options for a couple 2336 01:52:50,080 --> 01:52:54,760 Speaker 5: of years now, but Chagua has had options. And unfortunately, 2337 01:52:54,760 --> 01:52:57,000 Speaker 5: I could just read you through his last five appearances. 2338 01:52:57,040 --> 01:53:00,799 Speaker 5: There's last five appearances. One he led two inherited runners 2339 01:53:00,800 --> 01:53:02,960 Speaker 5: to score, then the other one he pitched a scoreless 2340 01:53:03,040 --> 01:53:05,160 Speaker 5: sending but walked the guy, and then the last three 2341 01:53:05,240 --> 01:53:07,439 Speaker 5: he's given up earned runs and all three of those 2342 01:53:07,640 --> 01:53:10,280 Speaker 5: on his own and including a couple of those where 2343 01:53:10,320 --> 01:53:13,360 Speaker 5: he allowed inherited runs to score in addition to his 2344 01:53:13,400 --> 01:53:16,240 Speaker 5: own earned runs. So he has been ever since he 2345 01:53:16,280 --> 01:53:18,479 Speaker 5: came back from that injury, he has not been quite 2346 01:53:18,479 --> 01:53:21,599 Speaker 5: as sharp, and especially recently, this is maybe his worst 2347 01:53:22,200 --> 01:53:25,960 Speaker 5: extended slump of some kind that he's had this year. Unfortunately, 2348 01:53:26,200 --> 01:53:29,680 Speaker 5: you can't send him down, so that would be a 2349 01:53:29,720 --> 01:53:33,000 Speaker 5: pretty bold decision if he does struggle this continues for 2350 01:53:33,040 --> 01:53:34,639 Speaker 5: another couple of weeks, like they could make the bold 2351 01:53:34,720 --> 01:53:38,639 Speaker 5: choice to just DFA him, honestly, but they can't send 2352 01:53:38,720 --> 01:53:40,880 Speaker 5: him down, and I don't think they're gonna do that 2353 01:53:41,000 --> 01:53:43,519 Speaker 5: DFA right now. I think it's for the moment. You 2354 01:53:43,600 --> 01:53:46,640 Speaker 5: keep as much pitching depth as possible, and you do 2355 01:53:46,680 --> 01:53:49,080 Speaker 5: that by simply optioning one of those guys that actually 2356 01:53:49,160 --> 01:53:49,920 Speaker 5: can be sent. 2357 01:53:49,760 --> 01:53:56,519 Speaker 2: Out yet another one for sure. 2358 01:53:58,160 --> 01:54:02,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I was wondering more for Alex Carter. But 2359 01:54:02,560 --> 01:54:05,240 Speaker 1: other people can answer this too. It's about the miners. 2360 01:54:05,880 --> 01:54:08,800 Speaker 2: Who's been the best cast in the minor league organization? 2361 01:54:08,960 --> 01:54:11,920 Speaker 1: This is so far this year it would have been, 2362 01:54:15,200 --> 01:54:19,320 Speaker 1: but he's not here anymore. No Kevin can answer to 2363 01:54:19,400 --> 01:54:21,519 Speaker 1: Kevin Kevin. I I took this last time. I'll let 2364 01:54:21,520 --> 01:54:22,760 Speaker 1: you take it this time. I know this has been 2365 01:54:22,920 --> 01:54:26,040 Speaker 1: kind of massive, golhead. We have a trade. We have 2366 01:54:26,120 --> 01:54:29,320 Speaker 1: a trade. The Angels are getting Writtdall, Ritchick and c. J. 2367 01:54:29,479 --> 01:54:36,160 Speaker 1: Chrome from the Rock. Sweet Dad, I'm freshing my time trade, 2368 01:54:39,880 --> 01:54:44,760 Speaker 1: just like Colorado is getting Jake Padden and Mason Albright. 2369 01:54:45,000 --> 01:54:49,560 Speaker 1: I see. But the answer, the Angels just made a trade. 2370 01:54:49,640 --> 01:54:50,480 Speaker 1: Sorry to cut you off. 2371 01:54:50,480 --> 01:54:52,520 Speaker 4: I don't know if that's even more literally what we 2372 01:54:52,520 --> 01:54:59,480 Speaker 4: were talking, bad bad, just just. 2373 01:54:59,440 --> 01:55:05,280 Speaker 1: Three silence Yankees Daniel to the Giants, to the Giants. 2374 01:55:06,280 --> 01:55:08,280 Speaker 1: I think I think Chatman may have just gone to 2375 01:55:08,280 --> 01:55:08,800 Speaker 1: the Marlins. 2376 01:55:08,840 --> 01:55:13,640 Speaker 4: Now, just kidding man, all right, But to finish your 2377 01:55:13,960 --> 01:55:16,320 Speaker 4: answer your question, Ryan, it would have been Ronald Hernandez. 2378 01:55:17,080 --> 01:55:20,120 Speaker 4: But right now, personally, I would say it's Will Banfield. 2379 01:55:20,160 --> 01:55:22,480 Speaker 4: Just the way he's been playing this season, I would 2380 01:55:22,480 --> 01:55:24,080 Speaker 4: say he's relying a little bit more of the power 2381 01:55:24,080 --> 01:55:27,600 Speaker 4: than the bad. But man, he's so good defensively. He's 2382 01:55:27,640 --> 01:55:30,840 Speaker 4: been playing very well for the most part, I think. 2383 01:55:30,920 --> 01:55:33,280 Speaker 4: And also I just want to clarify, it doesn't say 2384 01:55:33,360 --> 01:55:36,960 Speaker 4: much given how bad the catching, you know, death is 2385 01:55:37,000 --> 01:55:39,160 Speaker 4: in this organization, But if there was one guy to 2386 01:55:39,240 --> 01:55:42,800 Speaker 4: mension Austin, I would be Will Banfield, and then there's 2387 01:55:42,800 --> 01:55:45,640 Speaker 4: Austin Allen, who's also been pretty good for for Miamunity 2388 01:55:46,160 --> 01:55:50,200 Speaker 4: for Triple A Jacksonville. But what what Eli said is 2389 01:55:50,240 --> 01:55:53,360 Speaker 4: that he's injured now with some type of wrist injury 2390 01:55:53,360 --> 01:55:54,680 Speaker 4: it looked like, so we'll see. 2391 01:55:54,480 --> 01:55:55,440 Speaker 1: If they put him on the aisle. 2392 01:55:55,520 --> 01:55:58,480 Speaker 4: But he's putting up the highest w RC playoffs out 2393 01:55:58,480 --> 01:56:00,720 Speaker 4: of any catcher or the league system. 2394 01:56:01,240 --> 01:56:04,080 Speaker 1: I do want to I want to dive into kind. 2395 01:56:03,880 --> 01:56:05,720 Speaker 4: Of the DSL guys and SCL guys and know they 2396 01:56:05,720 --> 01:56:08,120 Speaker 4: brought it some there, so I'll probably do a deep 2397 01:56:08,160 --> 01:56:09,000 Speaker 4: dive on those guys. 2398 01:56:08,840 --> 01:56:11,000 Speaker 1: Students if there's anyone that's kind of sticking out there. 2399 01:56:11,000 --> 01:56:14,120 Speaker 4: But for now, the answer would be Will Banfield, followed 2400 01:56:14,120 --> 01:56:15,200 Speaker 4: by Austin Allen. 2401 01:56:16,520 --> 01:56:20,360 Speaker 1: Agreed. Yeah, I would agree with a with a slight 2402 01:56:20,520 --> 01:56:24,680 Speaker 1: nod to to Joe Mack who, Yeah. 2403 01:56:24,520 --> 01:56:26,640 Speaker 4: It's been a struggle for him so far this year, 2404 01:56:26,680 --> 01:56:30,040 Speaker 4: but it looks a little bit better this month, so 2405 01:56:30,480 --> 01:56:32,080 Speaker 4: I mean I would I would call him. 2406 01:56:31,920 --> 01:56:33,560 Speaker 1: Out as well, another high school catcher. 2407 01:56:34,040 --> 01:56:36,440 Speaker 4: High school catchers managed it's a it's been a it's 2408 01:56:36,440 --> 01:56:37,560 Speaker 4: been a struggle for the Marlins. 2409 01:56:37,560 --> 01:56:41,360 Speaker 1: With these high school caacchers. But yeah, Bamfield's doing it now. 2410 01:56:41,960 --> 01:56:44,800 Speaker 4: Mac, I think is at his age right now where 2411 01:56:44,840 --> 01:56:47,480 Speaker 4: Mac is, he's at least ahead of where Bamfield was 2412 01:56:47,520 --> 01:56:48,520 Speaker 4: at his age. 2413 01:56:49,160 --> 01:56:50,680 Speaker 1: So I mean there's. 2414 01:56:50,320 --> 01:56:53,080 Speaker 13: Something to be said for that as well. But but yeah, 2415 01:56:53,080 --> 01:56:55,960 Speaker 13: it's got to be Bamfield. I would also look at 2416 01:56:56,080 --> 01:56:57,800 Speaker 13: uh at Paul McIntosh as well. 2417 01:56:58,320 --> 01:57:00,680 Speaker 4: There's questions on if he can think I catch her, 2418 01:57:01,200 --> 01:57:05,120 Speaker 4: but that's an undrafted free agent who has just done 2419 01:57:05,160 --> 01:57:07,600 Speaker 4: a lot so far as a guy who cost the 2420 01:57:07,600 --> 01:57:08,720 Speaker 4: Marlins literally nothing. 2421 01:57:08,880 --> 01:57:11,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, it would be. 2422 01:57:11,000 --> 01:57:13,320 Speaker 13: Banfield, but a nod to Mac and a and a 2423 01:57:13,360 --> 01:57:13,680 Speaker 13: nod to. 2424 01:57:13,760 --> 01:57:19,400 Speaker 4: McIntosh as well. But yeah, I agree with Bamfield. Yeah, yeah, 2425 01:57:19,520 --> 01:57:21,640 Speaker 4: I didn't want to say shout out Mac. He's been 2426 01:57:21,640 --> 01:57:23,920 Speaker 4: good this year, but he's not that good defensively, and 2427 01:57:24,080 --> 01:57:24,640 Speaker 4: he could tell you. 2428 01:57:24,680 --> 01:57:30,320 Speaker 1: That's so all we got Ryan. Yeah, that's pretty much it. 2429 01:57:30,320 --> 01:57:33,680 Speaker 1: Thanks you, thank you, well, I guess we'll close it 2430 01:57:33,720 --> 01:57:36,960 Speaker 1: out of that. My parting thoughts are, why didn't I 2431 01:57:37,000 --> 01:57:37,600 Speaker 1: mention CJ. 2432 01:57:37,760 --> 01:57:41,760 Speaker 2: Cron is a Grek Cooper replacement and could that type 2433 01:57:41,760 --> 01:57:43,920 Speaker 2: of trade package be something the Marlins to look for, 2434 01:57:44,160 --> 01:57:47,520 Speaker 2: because those are they packed up two guys in one trade. 2435 01:57:47,520 --> 01:57:49,600 Speaker 2: Could they do that with Saint Louis? Maybe we'll go 2436 01:57:49,680 --> 01:57:51,320 Speaker 2: out on this ground table here. 2437 01:57:55,840 --> 01:57:57,880 Speaker 4: I just want to know if Miami was interested in 2438 01:57:57,920 --> 01:58:00,480 Speaker 4: Crone at any point, because I know as I can 2439 01:58:00,560 --> 01:58:03,040 Speaker 4: say this as well and Eli when in the podcast 2440 01:58:03,080 --> 01:58:04,440 Speaker 4: with Joe he mentioned that they were looking in a 2441 01:58:04,480 --> 01:58:07,960 Speaker 4: first basement, So yeah, it would be I think my 2442 01:58:08,360 --> 01:58:11,320 Speaker 4: I mean, would Miami have shown interesting. 2443 01:58:11,080 --> 01:58:13,480 Speaker 1: In Cronanchick as well? 2444 01:58:13,480 --> 01:58:15,960 Speaker 4: I guess, But that's the one thing I do want 2445 01:58:15,960 --> 01:58:17,720 Speaker 4: to know from you know, Miami's. 2446 01:58:18,000 --> 01:58:20,440 Speaker 5: I don't know how much different Krone is than Cooper. 2447 01:58:20,440 --> 01:58:21,600 Speaker 5: They have a lot in common. 2448 01:58:21,800 --> 01:58:27,160 Speaker 6: I agree they got chron does does he know? He 2449 01:58:27,200 --> 01:58:31,400 Speaker 6: does not? He's depending free agent c J Cron not 2450 01:58:31,480 --> 01:58:32,360 Speaker 6: from what I was saying. 2451 01:58:32,440 --> 01:58:34,120 Speaker 1: I checked it like a couple of weeks. Guy, I 2452 01:58:34,160 --> 01:58:35,800 Speaker 1: think he's on the contract next year. 2453 01:58:36,240 --> 01:58:39,760 Speaker 6: I will double check while we're on here. That does 2454 01:58:39,760 --> 01:58:40,360 Speaker 6: not sound. 2455 01:58:41,800 --> 01:58:42,040 Speaker 1: Deal. 2456 01:58:43,760 --> 01:58:45,760 Speaker 6: And isn't he in the second year of that deal? 2457 01:58:48,400 --> 01:58:49,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, Grant, what are you talking about? He's a free agent? 2458 01:58:51,240 --> 01:58:56,120 Speaker 1: I spot rack. Is that like a bad sign? Yeah? 2459 01:58:56,200 --> 01:58:59,000 Speaker 13: This is a very similar player to Kert Cooper. It's 2460 01:58:59,000 --> 01:59:05,080 Speaker 13: a power first player and so there's there's really no 2461 01:59:05,240 --> 01:59:07,560 Speaker 13: difference from what they have in Garret Cooper. 2462 01:59:07,640 --> 01:59:09,160 Speaker 4: So I don't think this guy was on the radar, 2463 01:59:09,240 --> 01:59:09,960 Speaker 4: but maybe I'm wrong. 2464 01:59:10,040 --> 01:59:12,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, the only difference is that he plays home games 2465 01:59:12,320 --> 01:59:15,360 Speaker 5: and course field, and it inflates his slogan, right, But yeah, 2466 01:59:15,400 --> 01:59:19,000 Speaker 5: otherwise he's having a very similar when you adjust for 2467 01:59:19,040 --> 01:59:21,000 Speaker 5: the environment he plays, and it's a very similar year 2468 01:59:21,320 --> 01:59:24,360 Speaker 5: that Cooper is having, and he hits from the right side, 2469 01:59:24,400 --> 01:59:27,040 Speaker 5: and yeah, the power upside is a little bit is 2470 01:59:27,120 --> 01:59:30,120 Speaker 5: higher than Cooper's, but also probably the feel as an 2471 01:59:30,120 --> 01:59:32,760 Speaker 5: overall hitter is a little lower than Cooper's, So that 2472 01:59:32,760 --> 01:59:35,600 Speaker 5: would just be a very marginal move. With grit Chick, 2473 01:59:35,640 --> 01:59:39,480 Speaker 5: it's worth mentioning just because he's been playing exceptionally well 2474 01:59:39,760 --> 01:59:43,400 Speaker 5: lately and even has the ability to fake it in centerfield. 2475 01:59:43,400 --> 01:59:46,080 Speaker 5: He's been playing a surprising amount of center field for 2476 01:59:46,280 --> 01:59:48,720 Speaker 5: the Rockies this year. How many starts in centerfield, about 2477 01:59:48,720 --> 01:59:52,320 Speaker 5: twenty games he's played in centerfield this far into his career. 2478 01:59:52,640 --> 01:59:54,840 Speaker 5: And so even when you take out the core stuff, 2479 01:59:54,840 --> 01:59:57,880 Speaker 5: he's been hitting pretty well, but the fit is kind 2480 01:59:57,880 --> 02:00:00,640 Speaker 5: of awkward still with him a with the Marlins, it 2481 02:00:00,680 --> 02:00:03,280 Speaker 5: is a lot easier to figure out a fit when 2482 02:00:03,960 --> 02:00:06,440 Speaker 5: for somebody on the infield than it is on the outfield. 2483 02:00:06,840 --> 02:00:09,440 Speaker 5: So if you took grit Chick's offense and you put 2484 02:00:09,480 --> 02:00:12,440 Speaker 5: it on Kron, then that's the first baseman they may 2485 02:00:12,480 --> 02:00:14,440 Speaker 5: have gone out of their way to get. But this 2486 02:00:14,560 --> 02:00:19,520 Speaker 5: year Gritchick has been the much better hitter. And yeah, 2487 02:00:19,640 --> 02:00:22,400 Speaker 5: it wasn't it wasn't a clean fit, but for a 2488 02:00:22,440 --> 02:00:24,280 Speaker 5: team that needs offense, I wouldn't be surprised if they 2489 02:00:24,280 --> 02:00:26,360 Speaker 5: at least kicked the tires on Gritchick at some point. 2490 02:00:28,200 --> 02:00:29,360 Speaker 1: All right, we'll go out. 2491 02:00:29,400 --> 02:00:32,120 Speaker 4: And it's also hard to find a guy who walks 2492 02:00:32,200 --> 02:00:34,720 Speaker 4: less than than Cooper, but you have one in c J. 2493 02:00:34,880 --> 02:00:35,160 Speaker 1: Cron. 2494 02:00:35,480 --> 02:00:40,760 Speaker 13: So yeah, uh there's literally zero walks, strike out, strike out, 2495 02:00:40,760 --> 02:00:44,320 Speaker 13: strike out, strikeout or home run in contact. So yeah, 2496 02:00:44,400 --> 02:00:46,760 Speaker 13: it's a one to two tool player. 2497 02:00:46,880 --> 02:00:49,440 Speaker 4: And the Marlins have another one just like him with 2498 02:00:49,480 --> 02:00:51,920 Speaker 4: Cooper so on an XPRET contract as well. 2499 02:00:51,960 --> 02:00:53,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, there's. 2500 02:00:53,280 --> 02:00:55,960 Speaker 13: There was no fit here for Crone. But good on 2501 02:00:56,000 --> 02:00:57,880 Speaker 13: the trade, man. I think that, but that both teams 2502 02:00:57,880 --> 02:00:58,400 Speaker 13: will make out. 2503 02:00:59,800 --> 02:01:03,880 Speaker 2: All right, we'll end it there. We probably will deal 2504 02:01:03,920 --> 02:01:06,240 Speaker 2: with space on deadline day. I don't know about tomorrow. 2505 02:01:06,360 --> 02:01:09,280 Speaker 2: We will have to discuss this amongst us, but if not, 2506 02:01:09,720 --> 02:01:12,360 Speaker 2: we will be back to this time next Sunday to 2507 02:01:12,480 --> 02:01:16,320 Speaker 2: discuss what is transpired during deadline weekend and all important 2508 02:01:16,360 --> 02:01:19,320 Speaker 2: series coming up against the Philadelphia Phillies and another one 2509 02:01:19,360 --> 02:01:22,080 Speaker 2: over the weekend in Arlington, Texas. So I'll do it 2510 02:01:22,120 --> 02:01:25,000 Speaker 2: all for us, for Eli, for Alex, for Kevin, for Isaac, 2511 02:01:25,080 --> 02:01:27,120 Speaker 2: for Daniel, for all our speakers. 2512 02:01:26,720 --> 02:01:30,280 Speaker 1: Tonight, thank you very much for joining us. We will 2513 02:01:30,320 --> 02:01:32,880 Speaker 1: see you this time next week. Thank you very much.