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Speaker 1: Hi everybody, and welcome to the Renee Stubbs Tennis Podcast.

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Speaker 1: We are live literally live in Mulliga, Spain. May I

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Speaker 1: just say before we get going with our wonderful two guests.

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Speaker 2: Help.

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Speaker 1: I've just been walking around the city of Mulligha, and

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Speaker 1: if you haven't been, get your butts over here. It

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Speaker 1: is goh yes, it is beautiful. It was so surprising.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was going to be smaller than it

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Speaker 1: was and it's just fantastic.

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Speaker 2: So get over here. Get on a plane.

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Speaker 1: It's not far. Was it like a six hour flight

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Speaker 1: from New York. It's no excuses. It's better than flying

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Speaker 1: to LA. But now that I've said that from somebody

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Speaker 1: who does come from LA, got two amazing guests today here,

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Speaker 1: of course, the week of the Billy Jean King Cup

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Speaker 1: Alana Class and Billy Jean King.

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Speaker 2: Hi, guys. Billy, you have been on the pod before.

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Speaker 1: You are not a virgin to my podcast, no, but

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Speaker 1: Alana is I am.

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Speaker 3: Although I have to say I'm a very loyal follower

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Speaker 3: and great.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I appreciate you, guys. It's a

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Speaker 1: joy actually to have you. You are both I can say

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Speaker 1: this hopefully both very good personal friends of mine. It's

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Speaker 1: been a joy to get to know you guys, and

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Speaker 1: I'll get to that at the end. We have been roommates.

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Speaker 1: I've done your laundry, Billy and Alana very good for something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 1: And before I get into like sort of some of

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Speaker 1: our personal stuff, I want to talk to you guys,

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Speaker 1: because Billy, you get interviewed all the time. Alana you

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Speaker 1: get interviewed all the time independently and sometimes you got

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Speaker 1: I don't get to have you together, so I won't

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Speaker 1: know for the people, the listeners, our listeners who love tennis,

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Speaker 1: how the hell did you guys.

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Speaker 2: Ended up being a couple.

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Speaker 1: It's been forever, forty five years this year, forty five years.

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Speaker 2: Mozzle tough to that and you said the right word

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Speaker 2: because Ilana's Jewish, I know.

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Speaker 3: And well, it's an amazing story. Actually, I started as

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Speaker 3: a ball girl at the South African Championships and Billy

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Speaker 3: in the amateur days. Own Williams, who was the promoter

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Speaker 3: of the South African Championships, brought all of the best

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Speaker 3: players to South Africa and they were at the time

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Speaker 3: getting money under the table, dollars a lot, and I

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Speaker 3: just grew up loving tennis, and my mom sold programs

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Speaker 3: at the tournament, and I was a ball kid. And

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Speaker 3: the very first time I saw Billy Gen I was

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Speaker 3: ten years old. Billy, Jean King, Rosie Cassells, Rod Laver,

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Speaker 3: Roy Emerson, Tony Roach. I mean, all the best players

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Speaker 3: and I just loved the way Billy served and volleyed,

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Speaker 3: and you know, always charged the net and had all

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Speaker 3: of this and passion in the way she played, and

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Speaker 3: you know, destiny really. I was hitting on a side

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Speaker 3: the court and she said to my dad, she's pretty good. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: she said, you know, I recognize your daughter. She's been

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Speaker 3: picking up balls, and would you mind if I came

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Speaker 3: She walked on the court, she hit with me for

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Speaker 3: ten minutes. She said to my dad and actually my mom,

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Speaker 3: to pursue it, here's my address. Here's the name of

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Speaker 3: my coach, Frank Brennan Senior. She introduced me to the

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Speaker 3: Wilson Rap and you know, the rest is history. I

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Speaker 3: decided that day that I was going to be a

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Speaker 3: I met her. The second time she came back to

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Speaker 3: South Africa. But when I went to Wimbledon in nineteen seventy.

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Speaker 1: Two, because people don't know, you were a very good

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Speaker 3: It wasn't bad, it wasn't bad. But the world went

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Speaker 3: to Wimbledon, played in the junior event, bumped into Billy

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Speaker 3: Jean again. In those days, as a junior, they wouldn't

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Speaker 3: Jean said to me, why don't you come and warm

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Speaker 3: up with us? And so I just unheard of exactly

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Speaker 3: can you imagine, I mean one on one would be one.

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Speaker 2: Have you practiced for your match? Because I knew she

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Speaker 1: So you three of the court, three of us practice.

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Speaker 3: They worked out great, and you know, Billy Jean won

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Speaker 3: and I won the junior event against Glennis Coles, and

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Speaker 3: you know, so our lives have intersected obviously since I

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Speaker 3: a pro. And that's why we always talk about if

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Speaker 3: you can see it, you can be it, and how

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Speaker 3: important it is to go to countries like Malaga to

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Speaker 3: you are just inspiring the next generation of young kids.

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Speaker 3: And so you know, we're very committed. I am personally

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go, whoa, I'm impressed. Well, I've actually

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Speaker 2: a goal. Let's go what do we want? Let's go

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Speaker 2: have a goal here.

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Speaker 1: You know, I actually never I actually never knew that story.

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Speaker 1: I knew part of that story, but I didn't know

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Speaker 1: all of the story. So that's really just great to hear,

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Speaker 1: and it is so important and it's funny because maybe

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Speaker 1: not at the same time, but I was. I wanted

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Speaker 2: My mom wouldn't let me ball.

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Speaker 1: Why because she said, no, I want you to pay.

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Speaker 1: I don't want you to be the ball which is interesting, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because you want to be on the court with

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Speaker 1: I think is that she didn't want me to not

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Speaker 1: be at school, Billy, but I skipped school. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you remember that court at White City and

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Speaker 1: I used to sneak down there, down into that water area.

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Speaker 1: There was no water, it was only a little trickle,

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Speaker 2: I never paid.

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Speaker 3: Now, why am I not surprised?

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Speaker 2: Well? Yeah, White City, Oh my gosh, I remember. That's funny.

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Speaker 1: I remember seeing you and I've got an autograph book.

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Speaker 1: I've told you this with your autograph and.

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Speaker 2: It's so cute. But you know what, I remember the

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Speaker 2: side win. Yes, it was awful. Oh my goodness. So

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Speaker 2: when you're on one side, it's going right to left

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Speaker 2: And you really got to pay attention when you changed ends,

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Speaker 2: wind's the opposite. You know, you've got to be yeah,

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Speaker 2: but it's a certain volier.

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Speaker 1: It was not bad having win because you knew that

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Speaker 1: So okay, so we've heard like the story of your

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Speaker 2: Now, so how nice.

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Speaker 1: Has it been for you, Billy, for both of you

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Speaker 1: you're going to leave long before we're all gone. What

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Speaker 1: does that meant to you, Billy, to sort of not

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Speaker 1: this incredible business foundation vision together.

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Speaker 2: Alana is always really good in business. She just didn't know.

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Speaker 2: You know, you don't know when you're a young tennis player.

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Speaker 2: But she's really good at sales and concepts and her

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Speaker 2: She gets a lot of yeses, she doesn't get as

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Speaker 2: understands the other person. I'm so aware of that by

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Speaker 2: the way relationship, we try to understand the other person

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Speaker 2: and what they need, not what we want, and then

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Speaker 2: if not more important, as well. A lot of people

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Speaker 2: them again. No, you do, just see opposite. You must

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Speaker 2: with you, and relationships are everything. With us, we talk

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Speaker 2: we really care about them beyond just the work they

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Speaker 2: we just realized that how much women's sports needs help

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Speaker 2: also what people don't realize, I've been in the business

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Speaker 2: since nineteen sixty eight. My former husband and I own

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Speaker 2: tournaments part owners. Obviously because we didn't have any money,

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Speaker 2: I do, Billy, I go learn the business. It's such

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Speaker 2: true because I say, do you when you go to

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Speaker 2: or whatever. I go, do you ever did you get paid?

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Speaker 2: And I go, did you ever ask the owner promoter

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Speaker 2: it on for a week. They kill themselves through. That's

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Speaker 2: what we used to do. We'd just kill ourselves for

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Speaker 2: that one week of a tournament. I said, have you

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Speaker 2: ever asked them how they have done? Did they have

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Speaker 2: a good week? And not one player has said to me.

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Speaker 2: They look at me and they get this blank stare

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Speaker 2: and they go, I never thought about it. And I said, well,

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Speaker 2: it might be good. And then why don't you work

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Speaker 2: staff person. Just work. I don't like that word staff associate,

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Speaker 2: and so I you know, I just said, go ahead

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Speaker 2: and work for a tournament just to answer the phone.

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Speaker 2: Even of course you don't do it like we used

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Speaker 2: buying tickets, and you learn so much from them to go, well,

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Speaker 2: I want a ticket. When Chris, Evan and Martine are

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Speaker 2: and millions, billions sometimes and they go huh, and like

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Speaker 2: that's why I want them to understand the business. I

434
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Speaker 2: mean when you go to wimblan even understand that, or

435
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 2: if you go to a small tournament, understand it what

436
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Speaker 2: people go through to put design for us.

437
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's important for players to understand just

438
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 1: the business side of it.

439
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 2: I think it's such a.

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Speaker 1: Great basics, it's a great I think it's something that

441
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 1: we should be teaching at school actually also as financial

442
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 1: literacy and things like that. We are here in Malaga

443
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 1: for the Billy Jing King Cup. So I want to

444
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Speaker 1: talk to you a little bit about the relationship with

445
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Speaker 1: particularly with ELF Cosmetics, who's now you know, ELF has

446
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 1: really supported iHeartRadio, the women's there's great networks. They've really

447
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 1: put their money where their mouth is. If you don't

448
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,119
Speaker 1: hear it, you don't know it, you don't it, if

449
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,680
Speaker 1: you don't see it, all the things, So that that's

450
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Speaker 1: a start. Also, of course they're now a sponsor of

451
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Speaker 1: the Billaging King Cup. I know how important it is.

452
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 1: I talked about this, you know, with Corey from from

453
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Speaker 1: ELF the.

454
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Speaker 2: She's market chief marketing off. She's she's a pistol.

455
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 1: I love her amazing but we but Billy, I said

456
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 1: to her, you know, one of the things about women's tennis,

457
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 1: for example, is we've had great sponsors through the years.

458
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Speaker 1: And obviously you know that both of you know so well.

459
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Speaker 1: The Virginia Slims was like such a catalyst, you know,

460
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 1: clearly not the greatest sponsor, considering it was smoking.

461
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 2: That's a whole other story.

462
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,919
Speaker 1: They yeah, but they but they are marketed, but they

463
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 1: were incredible partners. So how important is it for the

464
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Speaker 1: both of you to work with a company like ELF

465
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Speaker 1: and so many other companies that.

466
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Speaker 2: You work with here at the Billy Jean King Cup.

467
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Speaker 1: But how important is it to have a company like them,

468
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Speaker 1: for example, who really the demographic, the diversity, the equality.

469
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 2: The board philosophically perfectly.

470
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So tell me about that, Tell me about the meeting.

471
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 2: How important it was for both of you disruptors with

472
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Speaker 2: a kind heart.

473
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Speaker 3: I think there's not that often, right when you have

474
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Speaker 3: a partner who has the same values and is trying

475
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Speaker 3: to help you use that platform right to inspire others.

476
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 3: And I think you know, just the way that they activate,

477
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 3: like everything they do, they don't just slap a logo

478
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 3: on anything. They really build the fact that they have

479
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 3: you here the Tennis podcast. Yeah, they have Sarah Spain

480
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 3: from iHeart, They have a bunch of editors and influencers.

481
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 3: They are all in and that those partners are very

482
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Speaker 3: very hard to come by, and the product is amazing

483
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 3: and I think because of them. You know, we've added

484
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Speaker 3: this Power of Women's Sports Summit to the Billy Jenkin

485
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,719
Speaker 3: Cup because we believe that tennis has been amazing in

486
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,360
Speaker 3: paying equally exposure.

487
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 2: Although we can.

488
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Speaker 3: Talk about three sets for the woman and five for

489
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Speaker 3: the men, which we think the two is terrible exactly,

490
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 3: So the big events and in the Billy Jenkin Cup,

491
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Speaker 3: obviously because of Gamebridge, we're able to give equivalent price

492
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,360
Speaker 3: money to the Davis Cup, So that is an important philosophy.

493
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 3: But the thing that we love about ALF is that

494
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 3: we have been able to launch this Power of Women's

495
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 3: Sports Summit alongside the Billie Jean King Cup, and to

496
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,919
Speaker 3: have dialogue and to bring leaders together from all types

497
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Speaker 3: of businesses who care about women's sports. There is a

498
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Speaker 3: huge opportunity and I love that they are bold disruptors

499
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 3: and if you ever you know, if you looked in

500
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Speaker 3: the dictionary and you had Billy Jean King, you would

501
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 3: have a bold disruptor right next door. And so I

502
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 3: think that collaboration is perfect, and I think what they're

503
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Speaker 3: trying to do in bringing data and facts to this

504
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,679
Speaker 3: change the Board campaign that's incredible. You can't just have

505
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Speaker 3: one woman, you have to have three or more to

506
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Speaker 3: have things shift. And so it's amazing to have a

507
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Speaker 3: partner who really activates and wants to tell your story.

508
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Speaker 3: And I mean, I don't think we've had one since

509
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Speaker 3: way back in Philip Morris Days, and like you said,

510
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 3: this is a product that young girls and women can

511
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Speaker 3: really they use so it's a perfect fit.

512
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Speaker 2: And they're really inclusive. They just love it. But they

513
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,120
Speaker 2: don't care what your background is. They don't care about anything,

514
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 2: just people and they love It's just very big on inclusion,

515
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Speaker 2: which I love. And anybody wants to wear this makeup

516
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 2: doesn't have to just be a girl Ei. There could

517
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Speaker 2: be anybody else. It's fun. But I just love Elf.

518
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,360
Speaker 2: When I said Elf, what's that? And then with the eyes,

519
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,360
Speaker 2: you know, the lips in the the face, I was like, God,

520
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 2: what a great name. And I know other thing.

521
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Speaker 3: Too is they really are big on helping underserved community.

522
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 3: Their products are affordable. That is huge, and it's you know,

523
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Speaker 3: it's a bad excess. I mean our our brands and

524
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 3: values aligned.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so well, and that's really the I mean the

526
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Speaker 1: real I mean, you already talked about a line at

527
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: the start, how you know, having back in the day

528
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: it was fed Cup, Federation Cup, now the Billie Jean

529
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Speaker 1: King Cup. It is where you start kids at the

530
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Speaker 1: grassroots of tennis. You know, the if is so important

531
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Speaker 1: for the grassroots of tennis.

532
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Speaker 2: And you guys just did the junior David Cup and

533
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 2: Junior Billy Jean King Cup. I mean, that's what we want.

534
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 2: Those are the kids that are going to grow up

535
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 2: and be our future leaders. They're going to be great players,

536
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 2: some of them. You know, only one percent really make

537
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 2: it in a sport at the pro level, at the

538
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 2: real elite level. But you can stay in your sport.

539
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 2: That's what's important. Look at what you're doing now. I

540
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 2: mean you used to play, but now you're doing your

541
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 2: show and you're still in the sport plus other things.

542
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 2: But the point is that you have a long life's

543
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 2: conduit tennis. I think kids should understand that if you

544
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 2: love tennis and you don't think you're going to be

545
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 2: the best, don't worry. There'll be something that you're good

546
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 2: at and you can stay in the sport because we

547
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 2: need them. We need them to stay in tennis. And

548
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 2: tennis with all the research, especially in the States with

549
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 2: the Mayo Clinic, it is the healthiest sport in the world.

550
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 2: So I love giving the gift of tennis anybody because oh,

551
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 2: that's all the discussion, but right now, but tennis is

552
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 2: the healthiest sport. I don't you guys listen to my

553
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 2: podcast pickleball. Actually they actually orthopedics. I'm not gonna have

554
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 2: to No, you will not. Orthopedic surgions come to us

555
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 2: all the times that you cannot believe how many more

556
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 2: injuries are in pickleball. Yes, it's unbelievable.

557
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Speaker 1: I guess they can't cite it for the people in

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Speaker 1: the back, Billy.

559
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 2: So anyway, people that love your pickleball, just make sure

560
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 2: your train enough. But why don't you just play tennis

561
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 2: as well? Because just hit in the little service box.

562
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 2: That's what Lana and I do now, just hit we

563
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 2: warm up in the little She could kill me just

564
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 2: playing the service box. And I don't understand why people

565
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 2: don't do that. They we should break it up. Even

566
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 2: the pros practice half court.

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Speaker 1: We don't even practice all agree, Oh, Billy, we could

568
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: gone for it. We don't have enough time, I know.

569
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Speaker 2: I want to give people ideas who played to this

570
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 2: that you don't have to play points. Just drill and

571
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 2: hit the ball. It's so much fun to feel the

572
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 2: ball against the streets.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So, but don't worry, Billy, because everyone who listens

574
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: to this podcast also feels the.

575
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 2: Same thing about it. I hope, and if they don't

576
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 2: why you're listening to get the kids, but get the

577
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 2: other people to pick it up, and they don't have

578
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 2: to be children. Get older people, get it, whatever age group,

579
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 2: especially the children, because it becomes a habit. They'll have

580
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Speaker 2: it the rest.

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Speaker 1: I know when parents get their kids in pickleball, I'm like,

582
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: what are you doing? But listen, let's get onto the rant.

583
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 2: Listen. But I want to know, Billy. I don't the

584
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 2: sound kills me.

585
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: I want to know because we are here for Billy

586
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: Jean king Cup. I want to know your favorite story

587
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: from Billy Jean king Cup back in the day playing

588
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: and as a coach, and same for you Alana as

589
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: a player, as.

590
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 2: A point I love concepts right and to create opportunities.

591
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 2: So the first year was nineteen sixty three at Queen's Club.

592
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 2: I was on the US team. They invited sixteen countries

593
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 2: to get it started to see if they thought it

594
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 2: might work or might not work. And I was nineteen

595
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 2: and Darlene Hard was our best player in the US

596
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 2: and I was number two in Carol Caldowell, who is

597
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 2: my friend in my roommate a lot of times from

598
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 2: Santa Monica. She was the third player. But I remember

599
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 2: standing for photos and saying how excited I was this

600
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 2: and I poor things. I kept yelling at them all week.

601
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 2: We have to win the first one. So when we

602
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 2: look at the Cup thirty forty years from now, we'll

603
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 2: see the USA was the first one to ever win it.

604
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 2: We're going to make history, because you know how much

605
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 2: I love history anyway, and they're looking at me like,

606
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 2: what what do you care about? I go, no, you

607
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 2: don't understand. This is so important because this is going

608
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 2: to get bigger and better, and we have to be

609
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Speaker 2: the first.

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Speaker 1: So when I go to my name is going to

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Speaker 1: be on this trophy one day, and I want to

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Speaker 1: be the first. No, the USA was going to be

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Speaker 1: end No, but you know what I mean, it is

614
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Speaker 1: now the Billy J.

615
00:30:49,920 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 2: King part. I did not know that. I'm so excited.

616
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 2: But they started Federation Cup because it was the fiftieth

617
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 2: birthday of the IF and I don't think a lot

618
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 2: of people know that the Davis Cup started in nineteen

619
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Speaker 2: hundred with Dwight Davis, who was the captain of the

620
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 2: Harvard team started it. So they had a huge jump

621
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Speaker 2: on US sixty three years. Yeah, sixty three years ahead

622
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 2: of US, so we're always starting a little late, but

623
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Speaker 2: we're getting there. And we had our one hundred and

624
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 2: thirty seven Nations, as Elana said, and you wa this year?

625
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 2: Did you win it?

626
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:32,239
Speaker 4: We did?

627
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 2: When it we were down match points to Australia, which

628
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 2: is Margaret Smith. I didn't know that and Leslie turn

629
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Speaker 2: I was saving that for the you know, the go

630
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 2: in there and I yelled at Darlene, I'll never forget.

631
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 2: She's playing the left court and I was playing the

632
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 2: right court because I always played whatever they didn't want.

633
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 2: I'm one of those, yeah you my dream potd I go,

634
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 2: what would you like to play the right or the left?

635
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 2: And they go, I want this? I go, okay, I

636
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 2: played the other side whatever. And so I played the

637
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 2: right court with Darling because she won the left court

638
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 2: and she was a better player than I was. She

639
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 2: should be there and the way her game was. But

640
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 2: I could see her, I could feel her like her

641
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 2: was waiting and that she we're gonna got to be

642
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 2: the first we're on the court. We're on the court

643
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 2: now it rains, so but that's what she's thinking. I

644
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 2: could feel her saying, well, we might lose this. We're

645
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 2: right now close to a match point, I said, Darlene,

646
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 2: you know I wandered, I go I looked at and

647
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 2: we're gonna win this, come on, and I saw her

648
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 2: just go okay, and all of a sudden intensity came back.

649
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 2: Everything we got so lucky. I don't know how we want.

650
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 2: I don't remember what happened or anything, but we want

651
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 2: such thing as luck. We probably were very lucky. But

652
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 2: I'm so happy because we are the first name on

653
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 2: the Cup no matter what. And I every time I

654
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 2: look at it, I remember those matches and what happened

655
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 2: the very first one. So I've been a part of

656
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 2: this from day one to now and it has just

657
00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 2: been amazing to see the growth. And I Australia and

658
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 2: suck it. Is that what you're saying, No, Ozzie, I

659
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 2: think you want the second one, but it's not the first.

660
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 2: Ozzie's are probably as good a country as any. And

661
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 2: how the kids, the players play for the country and

662
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 2: they know it's a privilege. They love it. They have

663
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 2: numbers on whatever were you. I was number twenty five,

664
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 2: so you were the twenty fifth player to play. And

665
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 2: I think what the Australians have done great. I want

666
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 2: names and numbers on the back. So I'm everyone thinks

667
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 2: I'm totally out to lunch. But the point is I

668
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 2: do want that and I love it. When I saw

669
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 2: the Australians, you've never seen you. It's a lunch in

670
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 2: my life. So Alicia moultenmull I heard you. Alisia Mulloch. Sorry, god,

671
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 2: it's small Mulleck. She's such a she was so great

672
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 2: and she was showing me the numbers and explaining it

673
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 2: to me, because what are those numbers?

674
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, Derry Gavlova's fifty, So I said, real the hell,

675
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: I'm half a year sore?

676
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 4: Are they?

677
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 2: There are one hundred and something? No, fifty seven? Fifty eight?

678
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 2: Now I think, yeah, yeah, I was.

679
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: I'm actually the longest tenured Australian come Billy Jean King

680
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: Cup player. Well, I think it was eighteen, but it

681
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: really should have been more than that because there was

682
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: a couple of times where I got left off the

683
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: team because I was insubordinate apparently, so they left them.

684
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: It's Billy because the two times they left me off

685
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: the team, I won Wimbledon double.

686
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 2: So that wasn't too smart.

687
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: It was not very smart with the player that you

688
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: know why they kicked me off because I spoke up

689
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: for the players, Billy. They didn't like it, you know

690
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: how that feels. I do know, Yeah, so wonder they

691
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: didn't kick you off a couple of times. The last

692
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: was their last, and I think they both tournament and

693
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: it's right, all right, Alana for you first and most

694
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: like just great story that you can Yeah, I have

695
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 1: so many, but.

696
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,439
Speaker 3: I mean a great one and then not so great one.

697
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 3: So in nineteen seventy three, the fed Cup was actually

698
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 3: in South Africa and I was the reserve on the

699
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 3: team because I was a young little snapper, a snapper

700
00:34:56,160 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 3: and it's always politics, right, I think, hello wine, and

701
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 3: but I did get to practice and be with the

702
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 3: team and we actually won the competition in South Africa

703
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 3: with beat Great Britain in the finals. And it's actually

704
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 3: funny because I know Great Britain are in the semi finals, yere,

705
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 3: and I don't think they've ever won it before.

706
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 2: Have they ever won it?

707
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 3: I don't think social but you can fact check that.

708
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 3: But I do know that they were in the finals

709
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 3: against South Africa and we brought them over. Joe Wade

710
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 3: and Whinnie Wooldridge when he shore at the time, and

711
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 3: I mean the whole country stopped. You know, it was

712
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 3: a huge deal. So I think again that representing your country,

713
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:45,280
Speaker 3: there's nothing like it. And then you know, obviously because

714
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 3: of a part eight, South Africa actually was kicked out

715
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 3: of the Federation Cup at the time in nineteen seventy eight.

716
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 2: So that was a little bit bigger than.

717
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, right exactly. In seventy seven, it was kind of scary.

718
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 3: We were playing in Eastbourne, yeah, and they threw flour

719
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 3: on the court, they threw oil on the court. We

720
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 3: actually ended up having like twenty four to seven security

721
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 3: and so we were then kicked out. So but you know,

722
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 3: I think even now South Africa is back in the competition,

723
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 3: they're playing in some of the smaller regional groups. And

724
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 3: again I think that first feeling of being chosen to

725
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 3: represent your country and wearing that laser. I've still got

726
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 3: all of mine somewhere. There's nothing I keep everything. There's

727
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 3: nothing like that.

728
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 2: I'm a holder. I I'm a holder. I love being

729
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,439
Speaker 2: captain too, or coach captain, and that's a full time job.

730
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 2: Because I went to tournaments, I built relationships with the players.

731
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 2: I'm probably luck his captain in the world though, because

732
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 2: one players number one or former number one on the

733
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 2: team together unbelievable. I think I had Lindsay Davenport, Monica Sellis,

734
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 2: Jennifer Capriotti, we had Venus, and Venus and Serena came along.

735
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,439
Speaker 2: I mean we married. Joe Fernandez was amazing. She helped

736
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 2: me when I had to speak Spanish in Spain in

737
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 2: those days. She helped me get my speech because I

738
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 2: can fanatically do it, but I don't really know it.

739
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 2: But I told her what I want to say and

740
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 2: she helped and her mother helped me. It's so Sylvia,

741
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 2: I'll never it's so cute. And I told the audience

742
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 2: and they all stood up and they you know, the

743
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 2: mom and Mary Joe helped with this speech and it

744
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 2: was so great. So no, but as a captain, I'm

745
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 2: one of the I just know, I'm the luckiest probably

746
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 2: captain never to live because of having those good players.

747
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 2: And you have to treat the A players I call

748
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 2: them in the B or B plus or A minus.

749
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:52,439
Speaker 2: Everyone's different, and you really have to be a psychologist.

750
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 2: I think if you want to be a great captain

751
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 2: and coach, you've got to be a great psychologist and

752
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,720
Speaker 2: I've had years and years of therapy and that really

753
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 2: helped me. Yeah, I agreed.

754
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,479
Speaker 1: Listen, you know, guys, I know I've done a little

755
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: bit of coaching in my time as well. And people say,

756
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: and I said, yeah, the excess and o's a one thing,

757
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: and giving someone a game plan is another. But all

758
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 1: you do the whole time is basically become a sports

759
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,720
Speaker 1: psychologist or a psychologist in general.

760
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 2: Well you can just wait.

761
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, you can wait, just serving here, Okay.

762
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 3: Well, I think Billy has this ability to see the

763
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 3: world from sixty thousand feet and you know, be able

764
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 3: to have a vision right for the end result. And

765
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 3: I think that's an amazing quality. And also she's the

766
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 3: most persistent person that I've ever met in my life.

767
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 3: Like she never gives up and she always starts over.

768
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 3: She doesn't take anything personally, and that's huge because if

769
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 3: you don't take things personally, you can always be in

770
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 3: the solution and been looking to move forward. And the

771
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 3: other thing that I'll say about Billy Jean, she is

772
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 3: a great united People think of Billy as being a fighter,

773
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 3: but that is really not her style. Her style is

774
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 3: to bring people together and to find the commonality in

775
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 3: reaching a goal together and she'll only fight if she

776
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 3: has to, but that is not her inclination. It's always

777
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 3: I think she's the people's champion and she's an incredible united.

778
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,720
Speaker 1: It's before you say anything, Before you say anything, pressure

779
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 1: is a privilege.

780
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 2: I can tell you that that's a fair story.

781
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,720
Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, I can tell you when I've had situations happen.

782
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,760
Speaker 1: One in particular was the Margaret Court situation in Australia

783
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 1: with the naming of the Cord and you know, it

784
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: was the time that she came out and said some

785
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 1: pretty derogatory, terrible things about the about our community and

786
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,720
Speaker 1: it's just the lgbt Q plus community in total.

787
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 2: And I was getting a lot.

788
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: Of calls from orders and TV people in Australia, and

789
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: you know, because there was a big story there. And

790
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,720
Speaker 1: I remember texting or calling you and I said, Billy,

791
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: help me, help me word what I need to word

792
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: in this situation. And I've never forgotten the story you

793
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: told me was Renee, there are people when you have

794
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: your name on a building, and when you have your

795
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: name on a court, and you of course have the

796
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: you know, National tennis and in Queen's name after you,

797
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: and then there's Arthur Ash Stadium, and then there's the

798
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: Rod Labor Court Arena in Australia, and then of course there's.

799
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 2: The Margaret Court Arena.

800
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: And you said, everyone that walks through those gates or

801
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: those doors might be straight, might be gay, might be

802
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: all of the things, might be trans, might be anybody,

803
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: and you should be inviting to all of those people

804
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: no matter what. If you want to have your name

805
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: on an establishment, you have to understand people walking through

806
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: those date gates and doors are everybody. So you have

807
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 1: to be inclusive of everybody. And I thought, oh my god,

808
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: what a brilliant way to put it. Rather than slandering

809
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 1: someone like Margaret, you just say, if you're going to

810
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: have your name on something, that's what you need to

811
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: understand about how important it is to accept everybody because

812
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: they're paying money to come into your doors, into your game.

813
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 2: Yes, and so I'll never forget that. And so the

814
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 2: reason I tell that.

815
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: Story is I want people to understand that you're like

816
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: my north star when it comes to because everyone knows

817
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: I'm I can be a little brash in my comments, really, yes,

818
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: but I have learned Billy Caitlin's very proud of me.

819
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: I don't tweet as much anymore. Actually, I've gone off

820
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 1: of Twitter. I'm onto Blue Sky now for those of

821
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: you are, they're Blue Sky, get on it.

822
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 2: It's much happier place. But a million new people every day,

823
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 2: oh lots lots.

824
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 1: And now that I've got you, Billy, you know you, Alana,

825
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: hopefully you know more and more people.

826
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 2: But but I it's so.

827
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: Important and you are so important because you're people think

828
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: that you're a fighter, Like Alana said, so when you

829
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,720
Speaker 1: were telling me that story is it's so true. Billy

830
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: doesn't kiss people off. She unites behind a common cause

831
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 1: of a conversation as opposed to, you know, even a

832
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: thing with the Saudi. You're like, if we're not there,

833
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 1: we can't change minds.

834
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 2: And I'm not sure what to do that. This is

835
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 2: a really tough one. Yeah, although I do know that

836
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 2: unless you have engagement, yep, you can't change. So that's

837
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 2: the difficult there, difficulty. But I also don't like what's

838
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 2: going on there. But how do we break down doors?

839
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 2: How do you know? When the WTA went there, they

840
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 2: actually did all these programs that are going to continue

841
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 2: every day of the year. They're not going to just

842
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 2: be there when the players are at the tournament. Is

843
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 2: this going to make a difference or not? I don't know.

844
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 2: I know Muslim girls, we're so excited to come and watch,

845
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 2: especially Coco winning, and so what if we get a

846
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 2: champion from there, a woman champion? Yep, you know. I

847
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 2: don't know. These are questions I have. I think about

848
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 2: things all the time. But how do we make it

849
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 2: better for everyone? And you know that everyone wants more

850
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 2: money all the time. There's a lot of money there's

851
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 2: It's a very difficult thing. Is because money equals opportun unity.

852
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 2: So I don't know, but I think it was up

853
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 2: to the WTA. I'm not the boss. I'm not in

854
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 2: the WTA that way at all. But I think it's

855
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 2: up to the players today to help shape the future.

856
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 2: But I don't know. I'd love to hear, but I'd

857
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 2: love to hear from them what their experience was.

858
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think what is important and I think

859
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 3: what you should share as we come to the close

860
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 3: is that.

861
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: But you still own me what what you admire about Alana.

862
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 2: So I want to do that, but I think order

863
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 2: to start and stop though, I think just.

864
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 3: Give some clarity on. The WTA was founded on three principles.

865
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 2: And it wasn't this equality and social justice and all.

866
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 2: Here's the three things. The original nine in nineteen seventy

867
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 2: came up with the three things, and we had our

868
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,800
Speaker 2: first tour Virginia Slims in seventy one when you were born. Really,

869
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,919
Speaker 2: thank you. Here are the three These are the three

870
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 2: things that any girl in this world, if she were

871
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 2: good enough, would finally have a place to compete.

872
00:43:59,480 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 4: Really.

873
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 2: Number two, that she would be appreciated for her accomplishments,

874
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 2: not only her looks. And that's all they talked about.

875
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 2: Then they still talk too much, but it's better than

876
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 2: it was. Number Three, and really important to all of

877
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 2: us is we'd be able to make a living money

878
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 2: playing the sport we love. Those are the three things.

879
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 2: I didn't get into equality. I didn't get into anything.

880
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 2: I just wanted to. You know, we had this place

881
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 2: for the future generations, and everything we did was about

882
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 2: the future generations. Every time we had a meeting, every

883
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 2: time we had a discussion. I don't think players are

884
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 2: doing that anymore.

885
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 3: Well, you say they live in your dream.

886
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 2: They're living the dream, but they need to bring the sport.

887
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 2: I mean, I remember tip none of my publicist telling me.

888
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 2: He says, I don't feel like the players bring the

889
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 2: sport with him anymore. And what he's saying is it's

890
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 2: our job to motivate others to play, to appreciate what

891
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 2: we have in our history, but also take it to

892
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 2: the next step. Got to take your game with you.

893
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 2: And I don't think the players think like that anymore.

894
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 2: We have to change that again. We've got to go

895
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 2: back to not back, but forward to getting them to

896
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 2: think about the future generation, not just about themselves. I

897
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 2: want them to start saying we and us and talk

898
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 2: about others and not just talk about themselves the eye word,

899
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 2: and it's really really important. And I don't think the players.

900
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 2: I don't know what. I don't know what you guys.

901
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 2: I think we want to keep taking and growing our sport,

902
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,280
Speaker 2: allowing kids to play. There's a place for them to play,

903
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 2: create more opportunities, but it takes work with every generation.

904
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 2: I mean, Correna Scott King and I probably won't get

905
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 2: this right as a saying. She says that you never win,

906
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 2: that every generation has to work and whatever to win,

907
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 2: every to have freedom, and every generation has to do that.

908
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 2: So it's so important. I didn't get that right. But

909
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 2: it's about it's about out well, it's about give ever

910
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 2: wins freedom that every generation has to earn and keep

911
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 2: fighting every generation. But this generation needs to understand that.

912
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 2: I'm not sure they do well well, they need to

913
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 2: do that because it's it's our responsibility. There. We are

914
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,439
Speaker 2: making more money than than we ever thought possible. Well,

915
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 2: I mean I thought we'd make millions. That's good. Now

916
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 2: they are. But the point is with that, I think

917
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 2: comes the responsibility. It goes very deep, and that's where

918
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 2: we need to connect history with the future because the

919
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 2: more you know about history, the more you know about yourself.

920
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 2: But the most important thing, it helps us shape the future.

921
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 2: And I know what, I don't know if players think

922
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 2: about that today. And we have to create that culture

923
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 2: within the WTA again and make it exciting and make

924
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 2: us think about others not just ourselves. I think it

925
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 2: creates it's so much more fun when you think about others. Anyway,

926
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 2: Talking about Alana, which I would love to talk about,

927
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 2: I told you she was a great salesperson before, but

928
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 2: what I really love about her is that she is

929
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 2: totally loyal. She's amazingly loyal to people and her friends,

930
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 2: very giving. She's an aries that's why. Oh that's true.

931
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 2: Is that what you are?

932
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 4: Yep?

933
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 2: Of course. Anyway, she's very giving and you should know that.

934
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 2: We're like a diapote now. And she's really smart. I

935
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 2: love smart. I love intelligent. She's really intelligent. And a

936
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 2: lot of people, I don't think realize that. They always

937
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 2: look at me, and I'm like, no, look at her,

938
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 2: look at Halana, No, look at me. She's the one

939
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 2: that really makes things work. And I just think we

940
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 2: really love each other. I think, you know, love is

941
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 2: really important.

942
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, we complement each other. I think, as Billy says,

943
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 3: she dreams it and then I'm trying.

944
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 2: To build it.

945
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 3: That's true. But I do think, you know, being here

946
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 3: in Malaga, and when you think about the Billy Jean

947
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 3: King Kap, Billy hates the word legacy. She says, others

948
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 3: define that. She wants to keep going right every single day.

949
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 2: No, We're measured on our contribution. Yeah, and so I

950
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 2: think other people think about us. We should be measured

951
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 2: on our contribution.

952
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 3: And we really look at this competition as a platform

953
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 3: to empower young women and girls and others. And I

954
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,760
Speaker 3: think we will be judged. The success will be judged

955
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 3: when of these one hundred and thirty seven countries or

956
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 3: more have more women representation on their federation boards, have

957
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 3: more women coaches, have more women in media, have more

958
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 3: women in officiating. Because I think we can use it

959
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 3: as a platform to build. And the great thing about Billy,

960
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 3: it's never about what we're doing now, what can we

961
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 3: help build for the future. So we really feel, you know,

962
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,879
Speaker 3: it's a privilege to be in this position and we

963
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 3: take it very seriously.

964
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 1: Well, I remember Billy telling to me, I think it

965
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: was thirty nine years of age at the time. I

966
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: was playing World Team Tennis, and she said, keep playing

967
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: as long as you can a kid, And I said, Billy,

968
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 1: I'm thirty nine, pretty sure I'm doing that. But she

969
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 1: always encouraged me to keep going.

970
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 2: Because people when you cannot play as a Oh no,

971
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 2: I wish I could still, it's a killer.

972
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: Especially with the money right now.

973
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, don't.

974
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 5: That that's another decision, you know, I think Renee, I

975
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 5: think it's fantastic that you have stayed in the tennis.

976
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 3: Business, that you love the sport, that you continue to

977
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 3: promote it, and you're always trying to learn new things

978
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:27,399
Speaker 3: and help grow the sports. I think what you're doing

979
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 3: with the tennis podcast, what you're doing with iHeart uh

980
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 3: and just having you here, I think is fantastic because

981
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 3: I think every generation has something to add to the history,

982
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 3: but more important, the future. And I have never seen

983
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 3: anyone other than belie Jin with as much passion and

984
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 3: purpose for everything they do. And I have never seen

985
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 3: anyone attend more women's sports. If I want to know

986
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 3: anything about women's sports, give me to just go to

987
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 3: your feed. And so honestly, you are truly committed, and

988
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 3: I think we're lucky to have you promoting and loving

989
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 3: women's sports, and tennis is just one of the very

990
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 3: few things you do a whole lot more so, thank you, oh.

991
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: Thank you, guys. It's been an absolute pleasure. I tell you,

992
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding. Get your butts to Malaga. It's going

993
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: to be here next year.

994
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 2: No, well, either way, get.

995
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,280
Speaker 1: Hit to Maliga, the third largest I think in Spain.

996
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 2: In Spain, it is truly beautiful, beautiful.

997
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: Absolutely beautiful. I went down to Marlbay a couple of

998
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: days ago. Well, there's some beautiful tennis results down there.

999
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 1: Cruise The bottom line is wherever the Billy Jean King

1000
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 1: camp is, please make an effort to attend.

1001
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 2: Come.

1002
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: It's great atmosphere, what you guys have done, what you're

1003
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 1: building with all your sponsors, particularly with ELF. It's been

1004
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,720
Speaker 1: great because there've been such a conduit for women's sports

1005
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: in so many ways, particularly at Iurheart and here at

1006
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 1: the village in king Cup changing the boardrooms and they

1007
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: are changing the boardrooms. I mean so many people, so

1008
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 1: many and he could learn so much from them. And

1009
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 1: by the way, they're doing very well for themselves, so

1010
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: that's probably a reason to put some more women.

1011
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:06,919
Speaker 2: I know you do well.

1012
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 3: They are amazing. But I don't want to forget game Bridge,

1013
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 3: who are ensuring that we can pay people equally for

1014
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 3: the men, and Microsoft who are helping with technology. Franklin, Templeton, Magellan.

1015
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 2: We have all. They're all the relationship that you guys

1016
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 2: have reships, so.

1017
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 3: Nothing happens without partners, and so we're very grateful for those.

1018
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 3: And again, you need the best athletes, you need great facilities,

1019
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 3: and we're excited about turning the ship and building the

1020
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 3: future of the Beiligian kinkup.

1021
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: Well, I can promise you guys, I will be wherever

1022
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: you're at.

1023
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 2: It's a pleasure to be with you. Guys.

1024
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: You're two awesome, amazing people. I do consider you my friends.

1025
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,919
Speaker 1: I'm really lucky to have friends. And it's been great

1026
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: and I can't wait for the matches today to start

1027
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: the semi final STUF here a Billy Jinking Cup today.

1028
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 2: Wherever we decide to put.

1029
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 1: This podcast, whether it be today or you know, in

1030
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: a week or in two days, it's just been awesome

1031
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,439
Speaker 1: to be here. I'm so happy just to be your guys' friends.

1032
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,919
Speaker 1: So thanks, thanks for thanks for being my noth star.

1033
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 3: Thank you for always showing up.

1034
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 2: I tried. Listen, I've got showing up. Its huge and

1035
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 2: wedding by the way, listen, I do show up.

1036
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,280
Speaker 1: You don't see it, but I do have passion tattooed

1037
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:25,919
Speaker 1: on my arm.

1038
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 4: So that's.

1039
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 2: Passion. Not on my as, not on my ass.

1040
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:33,879
Speaker 1: I definitely don't have it, although maybe I.

1041
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 2: Should think about it.

1042
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 1: It's on my right arm, Billy, because I'm right handed,

1043
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 1: and that's what I believe in passion. If you're not

1044
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 1: passionate about things in your life, you'll never be successful,

1045
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 1: as you have shown.

1046
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:44,959
Speaker 2: Both of you through the years.

1047
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: Fun Yeah, of course, you know, Billy, we could Lanna

1048
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 1: tell everyone that story that you told me. It was

1049
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: pretty funny. You said about there are two people in

1050
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,919
Speaker 1: the world. Two people in the world, some talk ten

1051
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 1: thousand words a day, and then there's you and Billy.

1052
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 3: Well, Billie's pretty full.

1053
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 2: She's pretty, very very full. I'll stop talking, all right,

1054
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 2: all right.

1055
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: And by the way, before before I do want to

1056
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 1: get this on the record. Congratulations Billy on being the

1057
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: first ever athlete, female athlete or athlete to get the

1058
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: Congressional Female Female Athlete.

1059
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 2: Yes, same with the Presidential Medal of Freedom. We want

1060
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 2: an athlete. I mean, I'm like, really, I'm the first.

1061
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 2: I should not have been the first, and we have

1062
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 2: so many Well I hate.

1063
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: To say this, but if anyone's going to be the

1064
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: first to get the Congressional Medal of Honor, Billy Jean,

1065
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 1: we have more.

1066
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 2: Now, congratulations the last. You never want to be the first. Lad.

1067
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 2: You always want to open the door, Billy.

1068
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: You you want to be the first. You want to

1069
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: be the first, and the bloody trophy and now you

1070
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:49,919
Speaker 1: want the first metal Well done.

1071
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 2: On that note, she's smiling. Guld have got it.

1072
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 4: Here we go.

1073
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 2: I have all these I'm going to try to get

1074
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 2: it posthumously for them. Are you kidding? See here we go?

1075
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 2: You heard it here first.

1076
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 3: So maybe this is the first series in this podcast.

1077
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, there you go. Well, I don't even tell

1078
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 2: the story of pressures or privilege was fed cup? You

1079
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 2: know with Lindsay Downport. Do you want to tell us

1080
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 2: a story? If you want, you're gonna have to edit.

1081
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 2: I mean, it's up too long. No, I was in

1082
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 2: I can tell exactly. I mean I can. For bloody,

1083
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 2: it's appropriate because we're playing Spain. We were playing now,

1084
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 2: I mean who we're Our host country is Spain and

1085
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 2: it was a raunche in kamcheetah. Anyway, and Lindsay Downport,

1086
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 2: who was number one of the world four times. You know,

1087
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 2: she's six ' three and of course, like I'm getting

1088
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 2: its bad neck because they're all much taller than I am.

1089
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 2: I'm looking up all the time. And she comes over

1090
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 2: to me and she's panicking. She's got to play a

1091
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 2: Ron Sanchez Vicario, who she ha what's her problem? No, no,

1092
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. And she was uptight because she wants

1093
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 2: to win so badly. This is what happens when you

1094
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 2: play for your country. It just adds to the tension.

1095
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 2: She says, oh, help me, I don't know what to do.

1096
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,240
Speaker 2: And I said, okay, you're going to beat her today,

1097
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 2: And I said, just remember, champions adjust and press is

1098
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,240
Speaker 2: a privilege. She's looking down at me because she's so tall.

1099
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,839
Speaker 2: Oh that's great, that's going to really help. Thanks, And

1100
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 2: she won. But that's where that that's where pressures of

1101
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 2: privileged and champions have just come from.

1102
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 1: It's such a great gam now because a lot of

1103
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: players touch that. I see them touch a lot of

1104
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 1: players I would touch it on their way. You can't

1105
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 1: touch the kipling one unless.

1106
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 4: You like.

1107
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 2: Personally, if you're a professional athlete, that kipling one is

1108
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 2: not worth anything. I hate it every time I used

1109
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 2: to look at it. Seriously, you're going to treat winning

1110
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 2: and losing the same. If you show me a player

1111
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,240
Speaker 2: that does that, they're not a winner, so they're a loser.

1112
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 2: So every time I see the kimpling.

1113
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:49,720
Speaker 1: I go bullshit, Right, you know, Mike draw on that note,

1114
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: Pressures of privilege.

1115
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Speaker 2: It's been a pleasure. I love you both so much.

1116
00:55:54,000 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, by guys, blessing.

1117
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:06,280
Speaker 2: You've got You've got enough for a few podcasts classic.

1118
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 2: You mentioned that your blessing list, Yes, every morning?

1119
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:10,879
Speaker 1: About that?

1120
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 2: Well, just people I love. I make sure I put

1121
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 2: on summer on. Sometimes summer on like Susan Williams on

1122
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 2: every time, because she changed every time. I see, it's

1123
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 2: your fault. I've had this such great life. You know,

1124
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 2: I just saw her at the Women's Sports Foundation. She

1125
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 2: was there, she said, she said, I know you were

1126
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 2: at the w n B. I okay, cool, sorry, nice problem.

1127
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 2: Was it the Liberty game that night? No, it was

1128
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 2: the playoffs. Believe me, I went to one. I love

1129
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 2: the Liberty. The reason I asked you that question is

1130
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 2: can say I'm lucky. My parents are always on it,

1131
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 2: my brother, and then there's different people in my life.

1132
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 2: Alana is of course on it all the time.

1133
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 5: Well, I just I have this generosity that's huge from gratitude.

1134
00:56:53,400 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 4: You're right, conduct induct conduct in conduct