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Speaker 1: This the One Bill's Live, presented by Calida Health.

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Speaker 2: All Right, welcome to a Wednesday edition of One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown's team tasker with you. We got some Bill's

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Speaker 2: notes yet too is whether, as well as some league

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Speaker 2: stuff to address, and then off season discussions will ensue

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Speaker 2: here on a Wednesday edition.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Have you been watching a lot of the Olympics. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I've kind of gotten roped into some stuff and and

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Speaker 2: you know, you learn things like the people doing the

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Speaker 2: luge they got like spikes on the fingertips of their

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Speaker 2: gloves that so they can you know, propel themselves from

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Speaker 2: the starting position. Today, incidentally, Steve Coverage begins of the

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Speaker 2: most uncomfortable race to probably participate in and to watch

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Speaker 2: the two man lose. Oh yeah, that just looks uncomfortable.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's be honest. The two guys on't it wait,

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Speaker 1: like ten times more than the sled they're laying on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and which is like seven pieces of wearing and

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Speaker 2: they're wearing like body socks screwed together. And yeah, and

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Speaker 2: here's the other this is this is how far down

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Speaker 2: the rabbit hole I go at sports like this that

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Speaker 2: pique my interest because I was like, Okay, as if

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Speaker 2: going down an ice sheet at eighty miles an hour

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Speaker 2: on seven sticks of wood held together with screws and

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Speaker 2: steered by your feet at eighty miles an hour isn't

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Speaker 2: treacherous enough. We're gonna put a guy on tapia so

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Speaker 2: you can't see and you're still gonna have to steer

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Speaker 2: because you're the bottom guy.

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Speaker 1: And you're still gonna go eighty mile an hour.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna go more than that because you got twice

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Speaker 2: the weight hurtling down an icy track. So here's the

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Speaker 2: it's no joke, man, They're going fast. So here's where

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Speaker 2: my brain goes next. Okay, how'd you like to be

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Speaker 2: a coach trying to recruit athletes to participate in this sport?

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Speaker 1: Don't they kind of like that? That's a tough sell,

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Speaker 1: it is.

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Speaker 2: Hey, yes, I know you love luge and going down

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Speaker 2: this thing, And like, if you're lucky enough to find

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Speaker 2: somebody who loves louse, right, well, I gotta I got

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Speaker 2: a proposition for you. What if we sit another guy

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Speaker 2: on tapia and it's gonna be even better.

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Speaker 1: You'll love it. Here's the thing about lous And here's

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Speaker 1: what I think, because when you're sitting there, back and white,

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Speaker 1: going down this sliding tube. It looks fun until you

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Speaker 1: actually think about what it's going to be like going

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Speaker 1: down a what a sheet ice? A sheet of ice,

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Speaker 1: curved sheet of ice, is not a strange shot in

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Speaker 1: a tube on top of a like weapon. It looks like,

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Speaker 1: you know, hey, let's go sledding. You know, they say,

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Speaker 1: let's go slide, right, okay, let's go slide. You're like,

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Speaker 1: it is like it's unfathomably fast, and you're like, you

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Speaker 1: got nothing, maybe a helmet.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's appealing to be the bottom guy on the

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Speaker 2: two Man Lose because you don't see where you're going.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's better, Yeah, because I might be downright terrified,

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Speaker 1: I had not thought about the two Man Lose.

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Speaker 2: It's the most uncomfortable looking sport I can think of,

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Speaker 2: not even person laying on top of you. You're going

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Speaker 1: If you're going to and using gravity, which it is,

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Speaker 1: and it's going faster, wouldn't being heavier be better? Right?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 1: Right, so now you know, now you're talking about a

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Speaker 2: Probably one hundred and eighty ninety pound guy on you know,

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Speaker 2: this isn't like a flyweight doing this.

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Speaker 1: This is like two hundred pound guys. Because the heavier

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Speaker 2: Right. That's why I feel bad for the coaches to

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Speaker 2: This is gonna be the best thing I'd ever done.

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Speaker 1: How do they start? How do they start?

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Speaker 2: They both sit, They're both seated, one in front of

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Speaker 1: But then they gotta lay down, so they gotta like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so the other guys like sitting right in front

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Speaker 2: It doesn't even look remotely comfortable. I mean, the Winter Olympics,

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Speaker 1: The Winter Olympics. While I am enjoyed them very much so,

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Speaker 2: The Canadian women have ever been shut out forty one games.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think it's going to come back to

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Speaker 2: Oh well, they're going to be fuming from how that one.

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Speaker 1: So I'm worried about that, but I have enjoyed it.

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Speaker 1: The curling great. How about the guy running up hill

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Speaker 2: They calculated he was going at a six minute mile pace.

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Speaker 1: Uphill on cross country skis. Yeah. He and he was

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh he looked like a machine. Literally looked like

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Speaker 1: As a sixty three year old former pro athlete who

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Speaker 2: Now, here's another cool part about the Olympic coverage. The

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: Like they've got him in the bob sled tubes and

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Speaker 2: skiers down the mountain. And I saw the most accurate

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent accurate. I'll give you one hundred percent accurate.

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Speaker 2: One first one hundred percent accurate tweet I saw in

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Speaker 2: my feed was these drone cameras, while providing fantastic images

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Speaker 2: Perspective of these maniacs going down the mountains.

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Speaker 1: And the old days, you get no idea of the elevation,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it looks like.

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Speaker 1: Stop stop, I mean it looks like you're going off

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Speaker 2: I was like, like, you realize how to get it

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Speaker 1: No one, no wonder. They don't do this all the time. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's some of these things, like curling is a kind

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Speaker 2: Do you have any idea and I could do that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Which is what? And you listen. I saw a

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Speaker 1: After ten minutes, like oh, he's got to get the cross.

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Speaker 2: An hour, but you're like, well, let's go in that

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Speaker 2: just set out loud on my couch. Oh, you gotta

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Speaker 2: come out of that triple tolat sooner. There's not enough rotation.

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Speaker 2: As I crack open the second sleeve of oreos, right.

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Speaker 1: Tell me we haven't all done that. Here's the thing too,

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Speaker 1: this skeche and it's a big deal. I have World championships,

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Speaker 1: There is only a few hundred people in the world

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's only a couple of hundred in the world.

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Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing. Back in the day, like thirty

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Speaker 2: Had glasses like coat bottles.

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Speaker 1: Exactly, and he just said, come on, how you know?

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Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, I'm good, I'll do curling. I'll do curling.

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Speaker 2: your point, their brains quite literally have a lower level fear.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty wild.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot I think because I because I was

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Speaker 1: And to me, I was a product of having three

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Speaker 2: Didn't they didn't used to run around with bigger dudes.

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Speaker 1: They didn't scare you, you know. And it carried me

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Speaker 1: you know who cares. And it's I would think, And

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Speaker 2: You know, there's probably a good chance of that, you

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Speaker 2: know what I mean, probably a good chance.

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Speaker 1: That somehow you gravitate that people generally gravitate towards whatever. Whatever.

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Speaker 2: Last Olympic note, I finally watched the Netflix documentary on

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Speaker 2: the Miracle on Ice team. It's called The Boys of eighty.

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Speaker 2: It is outstanding.

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Speaker 1: Oh is it? They did a nice job with it.

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Speaker 2: It is all it's on Netflix. It's on It's all

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Speaker 2: original footage from the nineteen eighty Olympic Games. And then

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Speaker 2: obviously sit down interviews with the guy now guys nowadays,

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Speaker 2: because you know they're all in there. It's sixties. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It's worth the watch. So I think

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Speaker 2: it's like an hour and forty minutes. Really well done.

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Speaker 2: You're going to school and getting educated.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, three, they only draft two hundred and fifty guys, right,

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Speaker 1: three hundred guys in the combine, Okay, one hundred might

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Speaker 2: to happen, right and the ramp up period to get

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Speaker 2: people used to playing within this system together as an

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Speaker 2: eleven man unit. But at the same time, I mean,

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Speaker 2: you got these team expectations out there that are like, hey,

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Speaker 2: we got to get over the hump here in the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: and it's like, well, hold on a second, we're rebuilding

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Speaker 2: a defense over here.

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Speaker 1: That's right, yeah, And that's I think it will vary.

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Speaker 1: The amount of grace fans are willing to give a

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Speaker 1: team to get it together varies on how much roster

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Speaker 1: turnover they perceive. And if, like say, for instance, the

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Speaker 1: Bills trade a couple of very prominent players or don't

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Speaker 1: trade any of them, sign them, you know, keep them,

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Speaker 1: and then acquire some players in free agency or by

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Speaker 1: a trade with draft picks or whatever, that amount of

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Speaker 1: perceived turnover at guys who you expect to contribute will

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Speaker 1: will will drop or raise the level of grace you

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Speaker 1: have for a bad defense if they show up and

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Speaker 1: they can't play. You know what, I mean, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: so that that we still have to see that. We

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Speaker 1: don't know what that's gonna be. Well today, you know it,

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Speaker 1: it's all about last year's defense. On this question, we're

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Speaker 1: asking today what's your floor? And it doesn't have anything

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Speaker 1: to say about what they're going to be this year.

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Speaker 1: I think it's all about last year. What do you

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Speaker 1: want to see?

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Speaker 2: Well, where does the defense have to get here in

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Speaker 2: year one under Jim Leonard to be acceptable in your eyes? Now,

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Speaker 2: to Steve's point, we don't know holistically who all of

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Speaker 2: that is going to entail. Who's here, who's not here,

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Speaker 2: you know, on the roster, not on the roster, A fit,

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Speaker 2: not a fit? And then how is it coached and

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Speaker 2: how does it perform? And what is an acceptable floor

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Speaker 2: of play and performance for you for the Bills defense

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six. Hit us up on the tweet

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Speaker 2: sheet at one Bill's Live. We've got some tweets fill

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Speaker 2: in the queue already, but we'll take your comments as well.

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Speaker 2: Got to take a break here, but we'll be back

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Speaker 2: with those comments when we return here on One Bill's

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Speaker 2: Live presented by KLIDA Health's Buffalo Bills Football Bills Live

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Speaker 2: Chris Browns de tasker with you, what is the acceptable

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Speaker 2: floor for you for the Bills defense in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: Obviously a lot of change is going to be happening

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Speaker 2: on that side of the ball this offseason, So taking

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Speaker 2: all of that into account, where must the defense be

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Speaker 2: at the very least for you in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: So let's go to the tweet sheet, which is brought

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Speaker 2: to you by Coryan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving

483
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Speaker 2: company of the Buffalo Bills, and Pat says super Bowl

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Speaker 2: caliber is the floor set by Terry Pagoula and Brandon

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Speaker 2: Bean And yeah, that's right, but I would say that

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Speaker 2: is more of a team, all inclusive team floor that

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Speaker 2: was set. Defense is We're trying to parse out the

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Speaker 2: defense here and get your thoughts that way. So I

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Speaker 2: think it's safe to say with a scheme change, it's

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Speaker 2: gonna bring personnel change, which means we're gonna get Roster

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Speaker 2: turner over probably greater than we've seen in the past

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Speaker 2: nine seasons, particularly on that side of the ball. And

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Speaker 2: then how effectively can Jim Leonard and his defensive staff

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Speaker 2: pull all that together and get the unit to operate

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Speaker 2: like a well oiled machine by week four, five six.

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Speaker 2: Because it's going to be a process from training camp

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Speaker 2: to preseason and then to regular season. What do you

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Speaker 2: think the chances are, Steve that defensive starters who we

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Speaker 2: have not seen play all that much in the preseason

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Speaker 2: the last several years. Because it is a new system

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Speaker 2: and the group will need live reps together.

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Speaker 1: I think we'll notice it. I think the players will

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Speaker 1: notice it in training camp. I think the ones will

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Speaker 1: get a ton more reps than they have in the past.

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Speaker 1: I think there'll be some further experimentation, but I would say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think there's no question you're gonna see guys play

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Speaker 1: defensively a lot more in live reps in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a must. I think you got to

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Speaker 1: take the risk.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm anticipating it because the most important thing

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Speaker 2: is to have your most important players ready for Week one. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and in light of what we've kind of outlined that

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Speaker 2: unfolded under Sean mcdermot's tenure, here was every year there

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Speaker 2: would be a set of back to back losses, and

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Speaker 2: while they weren't catastrophic in terms of the team's fortunes,

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Speaker 2: whether it was winning the division or going to the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: It did impact their chances at the one seed, which

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Speaker 2: they never accomplished. And I think we can all agree

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Speaker 2: that is the easier road to the super Bowl because

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Speaker 2: you're playing one less playoff game, you get an extra

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Speaker 2: buy for goodness, say.

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Speaker 1: Let's face it, that's a high, high, high floor.

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Speaker 2: Yes, well no, I'm just saying in general.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's right, but it is a high, high, high floor.

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Speaker 1: But that's kind of level of expectations that you kind

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Speaker 1: of used to around this building, yep. And you're looking

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Speaker 1: for ways to close that gap between losing back to

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Speaker 1: back games in the first half of the season and

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Speaker 1: then always chasing the one seed from behind, dropping games

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Speaker 1: to the New England Patriots and the Miami Dolphins. That

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Speaker 1: the head scratcher was the Miami Dolphins game on the

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Speaker 1: road down there, where they just they looked disinterested in playing.

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Speaker 1: So stuff like that you have to fight against it.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, you need you need a defense to show

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Speaker 1: up in games where your offense is sluggish at the

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Speaker 1: very best, at the least. So yeah's it's a total

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Speaker 1: team effort. But we are we're asking about this upheaval

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Speaker 1: that's going to happen on the defensive side of the ball,

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Speaker 1: and what are you expecting and what your bare minimum

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Speaker 1: requirement for seeing some progress.

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Speaker 2: Chris on the tweet, he says the Bills have to

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Speaker 2: be in the top ten in rushing defense and in

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Speaker 2: the top five in turnovers and have over fifty sacks.

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Speaker 2: It will be a slow start with a new system,

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Speaker 2: but you've got to play best at the end of

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Speaker 2: the year. Go Bills, now, this is more of what

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Speaker 2: we're looking for here, I would say because the Bills

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Speaker 2: total defense they were seventh last year. The trouble spots

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Speaker 2: were against the run, where they were twenty eighth, and

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Speaker 2: they were languishing near the bottom of the league almost

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Speaker 2: the entire season. Number one against the pass, but that

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Speaker 2: is probably a bit skewed because teams had so much

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Speaker 2: success running the ball against the Bills defense. And then

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Speaker 2: third down was a problem area for the second season

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Speaker 2: in a row. In twenty twenty four, they were twenty

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Speaker 2: ninth in third down defense, last season twenty fourth in

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Speaker 2: third down defense, and the Bills this past year were

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Speaker 2: twelfth in points allowed. As for takeaways, they weren't at

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Speaker 2: the top of the league.

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Speaker 1: We know this.

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Speaker 2: I'll pull those numbers up here shortly, but they were

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Speaker 2: barely in the plus territory with the turnover margin. I

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Speaker 2: think they were a plus two or three by the

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Speaker 2: time we got to the end of the regular season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they were.

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Speaker 2: Plus one twenty takeaways. It's about ten shy of where

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Speaker 2: they usually flirt with takeaways. They're usually up around twenty

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Speaker 2: seven to twenty eight thirty somewhere in there, and they

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Speaker 2: were kind of right at the top of the middle

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Speaker 2: of the pack in takeaways.

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Speaker 1: They were twenty fourth in the NFL in third down percentage.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, defense, it wasn't good. It's not good and and

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Speaker 2: hasn't been for the last two years, and it's probably

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Speaker 2: rooted in the lack of a pass rush.

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Speaker 1: Fans were almost expecting them the team their opponents to

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Speaker 1: convert if it was third and twelve. That's how bad

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Speaker 1: it got. They were giving up third and longs routinely

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Speaker 1: throughout the season, and that crushes you. And so that

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Speaker 1: in and of itself, being better on third down would

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Speaker 1: be awesome, let alone being better on take in takeaways

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Speaker 1: and sacks. Having more than you know, fifty sacks would

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Speaker 1: be well, I don't know. People wouldn't know how to

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Speaker 1: act it would be so good.

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Speaker 2: Let's look at it this way. So the Bills, I

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Speaker 2: believe had I think they had thirty eight or thirty

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Speaker 2: six sacks this past year. They had thirty six sacks

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Speaker 2: this past year, Okay.

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Speaker 1: They had two game.

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Speaker 2: They had thirty eight the year before, and they finished

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Speaker 2: about eighteenth in sacks for the season team ranking wise.

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Speaker 2: If you add a premier pass rusher that gets ten

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Speaker 2: twelve sacks, now you're right around fifty. There you are,

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Speaker 2: You're right around fifty. So is that what is that?

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Speaker 2: How they views solving that issue or are they gonna

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Speaker 2: throw numbers at the issue. I think one thing that's encouraging,

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Speaker 2: and I know we've briefly discussed this, Steve, but the

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Speaker 2: pass rush. It's been difficult for the Bills to fill

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Speaker 2: that role with a premier player, whether it's one that

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Speaker 2: they drafted that they couldn't develop into a premier player,

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Speaker 2: or a player in free agency that had been a

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Speaker 2: premier player but couldn't recapture it here in Buffalo, whether

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Speaker 2: it's Von Miller, Joey Bosa, name your guy. When you

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Speaker 2: go to a three to four system, I would argue

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Speaker 2: it's easier to find a six three six four, two

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty five pound pass rushing guy than it

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Speaker 2: is to find a premiere six four six five two

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Speaker 2: hundred sixty to seventy pounds. I know the differences seem

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Speaker 2: arbitrary or negligible, but I just always seem to feel

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Speaker 2: like the three four defenses around the league, almost every

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Speaker 2: single one of them has a top flight pass rusher,

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Speaker 2: and it seems that there are fewer of them in

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Speaker 2: four to three fronts. Maybe it's just bills myopia.

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Speaker 1: And I mean, Miles Garrett is the best one in

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Speaker 1: the league and he's in a four to three.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm not saying they're not out there, but

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Speaker 2: they seem to be fewer in number to me.

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Speaker 1: We talked about this yesterday with Maddie. You got three

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Speaker 1: guys with their hand on the ground, four guys standing

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Speaker 1: up the three guys. Even if you take it for granted,

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Speaker 1: those three guys are gonna rush the other four. One

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Speaker 1: of the other four is gonna rush for sure. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna have a four man rush most of the time.

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Speaker 1: At least you don't know which one of those four

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Speaker 1: it is. And that's a problem for an offensive line.

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Speaker 1: You got. They've got to get it right, and if

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Speaker 1: they don't, you should have them right. So that uncertainty

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Speaker 1: and that level of deception available and flexibility available to

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Speaker 1: the defensive front with four stand up guys instead of

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Speaker 1: three is a difference maker. That's why it seems like

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Speaker 1: three four defenses get after the passer a little better

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Speaker 1: because there is a level of you know, mystery as

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Speaker 1: to which one of those guys is gonna rush. And

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Speaker 1: if you think it's gonna be a certain guy and

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Speaker 1: it's the guy opposite him, yeah, that that's a huge win.

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Speaker 2: It's even more complicated when you're starting involving secondary players,

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Speaker 2: right and now you're dropping out of a defensive end.

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Speaker 1: You've got four guys that can drop into coverage theoretically

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Speaker 1: and do a nice job. And then you've got a

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Speaker 1: safety or a corner rushing the passer, and that's something

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Speaker 1: that the office is completely unaware of, you know, not

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Speaker 1: ready for. So that all of that stuff adds a

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Speaker 1: layer of difficulty discerning who the rushers are and who

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Speaker 1: the coverage guys are. That gives you an edge in

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Speaker 1: your pass rush that is not there in four to three.

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Sheriff on the tweet sheets says we need a

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Speaker 2: ten plus sack pass rusher and at least ten interceptions

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Speaker 2: through the year tens a light number, but more importantly

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Speaker 2: showing up in the postseason. Because the Bills had I

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Speaker 2: think twenty interceptions last year, you want them at least

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Speaker 2: at twenty. That's kind of the floor for me. I'd

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Speaker 2: like to see more of what we saw in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four when I think they had thirty two total takeaways.

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Speaker 1: Buffalo had thirteen in orse and led the league in

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Speaker 1: thirteen interceptions and twenty total takeaways in twenty total. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'd like.

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Speaker 2: Them close it to fifteen to eighteen interceptions. I'm even

657
00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 2: I've got a higher bar than Buffalo sheriff.

658
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Speaker 1: Buffalo had a plus one turnover ratio last year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they led the league with a plus twenty four

660
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 2: turnover margin last year the prior year twenty twenty four.

661
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Speaker 2: So get back to some of that and maybe with

662
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 2: an improved passerage there'll be more opportunities to get those

663
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Speaker 2: takeaways and improve their turnover margin. Robin on the tweet,

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Speaker 2: she says, my one cent would be to end up

665
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Speaker 2: no lower than fifteenth in overall ranking. That would be

666
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Speaker 2: my floor on defense with the right change in becoming

667
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 2: an attacking defense, that should be attainable, even if, even

668
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Speaker 2: if there are some players who are not a good

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Speaker 2: fit for the scheme in transition.

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Speaker 1: So that's a that's very dual. Yeah, you go seeventh

671
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Speaker 1: to fifteenth. I will say this though, seventh and fifteenth.

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Speaker 1: If your team is much better in situational football than

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Speaker 1: they were a year ago and you end up ranked fifteenth,

674
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Speaker 1: you may not notice the difference because this team giving

675
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Speaker 1: up a third and nine or a third and eight

676
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Speaker 1: or a third and fifteen on a regular basis is

677
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Speaker 1: pretty frustrating. And if you get off the field on

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Speaker 1: third down, even if you're giving up even if third

679
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 1: down is a third and two, I mean, who cares.

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Speaker 2: Right, I'd rather be better in third down defense and

681
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Speaker 2: run defense than total defense.

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Speaker 1: That's right, And that there's plenty of room for them

683
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Speaker 1: to do that and still not be ranked as highly

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Speaker 1: as they were this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the math can get you there, that's absolutely.

686
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Speaker 1: But that's I think situationally, this team needed to be

687
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Speaker 1: better this last year defensively. You know, thirteen interceptions, I

688
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: mean it's okay, Yeah, it's okay, they're you know, the

689
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Speaker 1: Chargers had nineteen, Atlanta had sixteen, and that's you know,

690
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 1: Carolina had fifteen, Seattle eighteen, And those are the leaders.

691
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Speaker 1: The Bills are right, you know, the Bills are not

692
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Speaker 1: far off, far off from that.

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Speaker 2: So, and that's with playing musical chairs at safety for

694
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 2: a while. That's right, musical chairs at corner for a while.

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Speaker 1: So and your top two pass rushers out for the

696
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Speaker 1: year in the first half of the season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah at Oliver Michael Hoyt. So, yeah, not bad all

698
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 2: things considered. Gotta take a break here, but back with

699
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Speaker 2: more of your comments on the tweets sheet. If you

700
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Speaker 2: haven't yet, fire off an answer for us. What is

701
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 2: the acceptable floor for the Bills defense in twenty twenty six?

702
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 2: You let us know. Next Here on One Bills Live

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Speaker 2: be an easy way to be in the stadium. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: I paid to do it.

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Speaker 1: It's funny. And when as the closing of the old

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Speaker 1: high Mark happened, I kept getting people come up, came

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Speaker 1: that came up, and they actually commemorated a bunch of

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Speaker 1: them on the sidelines of this stadium at the last

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Speaker 1: game that said, yeah, I started working here when it opened.

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Speaker 1: I was here, I was doing I was doing this.

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Speaker 1: I was working on the concession stand. We got a

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Speaker 1: bunch of pictures of guys. They're dressed in jeans, flannel shirts,

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Speaker 1: baseball caps. They're working behind the counter selling beer. You know,

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Speaker 1: back in the day, and nobody you know, didn't have

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Speaker 1: any uniforms or anything like that. It's like sixty five

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Speaker 1: cents for a beer or something like that. That it's

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Speaker 1: outrageously expensive. What were they think were they think, and

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna get that kind of money for beer.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, you can bet man, that's gonna be. That's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of fun. At what excitement is

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Speaker 1: going to be opening up that joint. Uh, we haven't

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Speaker 1: even had a chance to even get our minds around it. No. There,

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Speaker 1: we take it for granted. Now. We we pop out

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Speaker 1: in and out of here every day, going in and

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Speaker 1: out of the parking lot to come to work. And

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Speaker 1: the place over there is still an ant hill, that

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Speaker 1: new stadium. I mean, they're you can't count the guys

741
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Speaker 1: that are over there. They're just it is. It is

742
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Speaker 1: just busy all the time over there. So they're they're

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Speaker 1: right on schedule, I guess right at there. Sometime you

744
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: hear they're a little behind, then they're a little ahead,

745
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Speaker 1: and then they're right on schedule. Then they're a little

746
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 1: ahead again, now a little behind again, but they're they're

747
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: right there.

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Speaker 2: They're cranking.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Fun.

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Speaker 2: What is the acceptable floor for the Bills defense in

751
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. You know you're going to have a

752
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 2: new defensive play caller in Jim Leonard. You know the

753
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 2: scheme is going to be different. You know there's probably

754
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 2: going to be more roster turnover on that side of

755
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 2: the ball than we've seen in quite some time because

756
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 2: the defense is changing and the fits will be different. So,

757
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 2: with all that change in mind, what is the acceptable

758
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 2: floor for the Bills defense this coming season? In the

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00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 2: fall back to the tweetsheet, we go where Tim says,

760
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Speaker 2: if they can be a top fifteen d against the run,

761
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 2: I like, our chances have to be able to stop

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Speaker 2: the run to be legit super Bowl contenders. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: mean they don't have to be lights out good at it,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, they got to be top half of the league.

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Speaker 2: You've got to be able to make opposing offenses one dimensional,

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Speaker 2: and if you can't stop the run, it's very hard

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Speaker 2: to do that.

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Speaker 1: Right, I'm that's where you start. Sure, you can point

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Speaker 1: to games where the Bills did a nice job against

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Speaker 1: the run and you know it ended up being the difference.

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Speaker 1: It's hard for quarterbacks who've got to throw it, quite frankly,

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Speaker 1: to keep up with the Bills offense. They gotta have

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Speaker 1: a run game, and they gotta be able to control

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Speaker 1: the ball and get first downs. And if they're gonna

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00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: have to do it just with one thing or the other.

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Speaker 1: If they can do it with just the run game,

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Speaker 1: that's a little different. But if they got to do

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Speaker 1: it with the passing game, that puts them in a

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00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: bund and not too many of the guys the Bills

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Speaker 1: play can keep up with Josh and this crew, even

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Speaker 1: with the wide receiver room the way it is and

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Speaker 1: the but with this running game, the Bills have the

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Speaker 1: offensive line, the tight ends. It's just too hard to

784
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Speaker 1: keep up with the offense on the scoreboard when you

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Speaker 1: can't run the ball, because the Bills will jump up

786
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Speaker 1: on your possession and then you're stuck.

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Speaker 2: Right. I was trying to ascertain, with an offense as

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00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 2: prolific as the Bills have, how good does that defense

789
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 2: have to be to at least contribute enough in a

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00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 2: way to get them over the hump and get them

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Speaker 2: to the big game. And like we hear some of

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Speaker 2: our respondents on the tweets sheets saying top fifteen against

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Speaker 2: the run, you know, top ten here, I think in

794
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Speaker 2: most of these categories, you've got to be top half,

795
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Speaker 2: like third down defense, sacks per play, run defense, pass defense,

796
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 2: like you can't be poor really at anything. You've got

797
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Speaker 2: to be decent to good in a few of those

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Speaker 2: categories and then very good good to very good in

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Speaker 2: some others. If you're not going to be a dominant defense,

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Speaker 2: you got to be top half of the league and

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Speaker 2: a lot of these critical categories, including red zone defense,

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Speaker 2: which hasn't been mentioned.

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Speaker 1: The expectations for this team are high there. They need

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Speaker 1: to contend for the whole thing. You look at those

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00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: teams that you know, the Seattle Seahawks of the world,

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Speaker 1: and the La Rams of the world, and the Patriots

807
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Speaker 1: as well. You got to click on both sides of

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Speaker 1: the ball. You've got to have it under the hood

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Speaker 1: that you can put a game plan together and execution together.

810
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 1: You can win a game on either side of the ball.

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Speaker 1: And the Bills you have to ask yourself, could the

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00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: defense have won a game for us this last year

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Speaker 1: without the offense scoring thirty Maybe? I mean, you look

814
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Speaker 1: at the Philly game, but Philly was not a Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl team this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think and here's the thing too, you say, well,

817
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 2: how they got it? Like, for example, Bills last year

818
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 2: nineteenth in the league in red zone defense. They were

819
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 2: giving up touchdowns at a clip of sixty percent when

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Speaker 2: a team cracked their twenty yard line, and that's not

821
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Speaker 2: a good number. But so you say, ah, they got

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Speaker 2: to be a top ten red zone defense, and I

823
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 2: don't think that's a big ask because to be in

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Speaker 2: the top ten this past season, the Bills would have

825
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 2: to improve their red zone touchdown efficiency on defense by

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Speaker 2: approximately six percent. Just a six percent improvement in red

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Speaker 2: zone defense gets you into the top ten from where

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Speaker 2: they were last year at nineteen, because they were giving

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Speaker 2: up touchdowns at a rate of almost sixty percent. Philadelphia,

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Speaker 2: which was number nine in red zone defense fifty three percent. Like,

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Speaker 2: we're not looking at seismic change here to get yourself

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Speaker 2: in the top ten in some of these critical defensive categories. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so that's kind of the task at hand here. And

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Speaker 2: not only are they going to have to choose where

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Speaker 2: their focus lies, they're gonna have to assess the personnel

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Speaker 2: they have and decide, well, these are our strengths. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna be good in these areas. I'm a little worried

838
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Speaker 2: about this over here. How are we going to remedy

839
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 2: that to get through this season? Because we're gonna be

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00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 2: great at A, B and C, but we're gonna be

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00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 2: average at best at D and E and how do

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00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,919
Speaker 2: we cover that up right to be an effective enough

843
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,720
Speaker 2: defense to help our offense when football?

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Speaker 1: That's yeah, that's how they figured it out last year.

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00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: As the season went on. They manufactured pressures, they sent

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00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 1: extra people, timed it perfectly. You get the odd and

847
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: got the odd turnover. When this team got the turnovers, man,

848
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,240
Speaker 1: they were impossible to beat with the way the offense clicked.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, there's a little There's a lot in the

850
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: stew that can make a team really really good. Some

851
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Speaker 1: of it's predictable and some of it's not. The more

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Speaker 1: predictables you can control and be really good at the

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Speaker 1: easier the unpredictables are to make happen.

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Speaker 2: Got to take a break here. When we come back,

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Speaker 2: our number two is going to begin with NFL dot

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Speaker 2: Com analyst and lead draft writer Eric Edholm. They'll be

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Speaker 2: joining us with some post Super Bowl power rankings and

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Speaker 2: where each NFL team stands entering the twenty twenty six offseason.

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867
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 2: in Buffalo after their playoff eggsit a few rounds ago,

868
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 2: and with the defense in line for probably its biggest

869
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 2: change in a decade, not only in terms of you

870
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 2: know who, but what they're going to be lining up in,

871
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 2: it's sparked a lot of conversation. As we might expect,

872
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 2: how much do you kind of tie the outcome of

873
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 2: what that looks like come the fall to Buffalo's fortunes,

874
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 2: knowing their offense is expected to largely remain the same.

875
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no doubt that defensive changes are coming, obviously

876
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 4: with new coordinator, totally different system, several free agents, maybe

877
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 4: some tough salary cap discussions to be had. I don't

878
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:51,720
Speaker 4: know if players are going to be adjusted or cut

879
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 4: or what, but changes are coming, and so I think

880
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 4: you kind of look to that side of the ball

881
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 4: as a natural place to start. And you know, you

882
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 4: can look at vers defense obviously and kind of see

883
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,879
Speaker 4: the archetypes if you will, for each position and try

884
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 4: to figure out how does it match with what Buffalo has.

885
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 4: And so I'm sure some of that's gone on in

886
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 4: fans circles and certainly behind closed doors too, but I'll

887
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 4: be fascinated to see, you know, how much changes needed

888
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 4: up front? You know, obviously with several guys that could

889
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 4: move on via free agency, but also do they fit

890
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 4: the new scheme and where do they play? That's those

891
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,240
Speaker 4: are big questions that you have to raise.

892
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: Who's going to drive I'm across the league the trends

893
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: and the and the position groups and the number of

894
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,240
Speaker 1: free agents that key positions, the money spots like pass rusher,

895
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: wide receiver, corner. What's going to drive free agency? You

896
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: think across the NFL.

897
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good question.

898
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,879
Speaker 4: I think some of the top wide receivers certainly might

899
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 4: be franchise tag. You know, Dallas has already kind of

900
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 4: said that that George Pickens they don't want to let

901
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 4: him get away. You know, even a player like Alec

902
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,439
Speaker 4: Pearce in Indianapolis, you look at him and you kind

903
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 4: of say, boy, he's he's really elevated with each season.

904
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 4: He's a big, long target with some downfield speed. But

905
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 4: can Indy really afford to let him go given what

906
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,720
Speaker 4: they have? You know, then kind of the hyper productive

907
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 4: guys like Wandell Robinson, that maybe the level Rashid Shaheed, etc.

908
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 4: That makes it to free agency. I don't think Mike

909
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 4: Evans is going anywhere. We'll see about guys like Keenan Allen,

910
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 4: Romeo Dubbs, but I think it's going to get down

911
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 4: to that second tier at receiver. I think pass rusher

912
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 4: people will look to the draft and say, there's a

913
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 4: lot of talent there, so we can always fall back

914
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,320
Speaker 4: on that. But pass rushers get paid one way or

915
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 4: another in free agency, so when they're available and at

916
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 4: the top of their game, they usually cash in.

917
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 2: I want to pose another option for player acquisition to you, Eric,

918
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 2: and that's obviously the trade market, which you know, with

919
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 2: this new generation of GMS has certainly been on the

920
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 2: rise from what it was ten to fifteen years ago.

921
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:58,320
Speaker 2: And knowing that ten different head coaching jobs got filled

922
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 2: and a good portion of those teams are undergoing scheme changes,

923
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:05,399
Speaker 2: much like Buffalo, there are players on some of these

924
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 2: rosters that are no longer fits there. Much like the Bills,

925
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 2: will probably find some players here that are no longer fits.

926
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 2: How much do you think, you know, ten new coaches

927
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 2: and look, not all the systems are changing, particularly on defense,

928
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 2: But how much do you think that could spark the

929
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 2: trade market this offseason in comparison to other offseasons.

930
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 3: Hey, it's an interesting perspective.

931
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 4: I hadn't thought of it in those terms when it

932
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 4: makes sense, right, anytime there's mass change around the NFL,

933
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 4: and anytime you see kind of defense of an offensive

934
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 4: trends sort of take hold in the league. Those two

935
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 4: things tend to go hand in hand. And so you know,

936
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 4: look at for instance, Tennessee, Robert sala is going to

937
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 4: bring a different defense than what the Titans had last year.

938
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 3: So maybe that's a place I.

939
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 4: Don't know if we're talking Jeffrey Simmons, but they haven't

940
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 4: given any indication they're best players up for trade.

941
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 3: But you could absolutely see some players.

942
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 4: Who no longer fit there that end up moving on

943
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 4: via trade or you know, some other means. So yeah,

944
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 4: I think that's a good place to start. Plus, there's been,

945
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 4: you know, some teams that are making coaching changes that

946
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 4: also have players who have either demanded a trade or

947
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 4: reportedly demanded a trade somebody like Max Crosby in Vegas.

948
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,399
Speaker 4: So you know, there's certainly a lot of interesting names

949
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 4: out there. We almost had a or you know, there

950
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 4: was talk of a Miles Garrett trade a year ago,

951
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,439
Speaker 4: which you know, seems crazy now defensive player of the Year.

952
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 4: But yeah, some bigger names are getting thrown out there

953
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:27,800
Speaker 4: and we're actually getting some activity.

954
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 3: You're right.

955
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 4: Back in the day, we almost never saw player for

956
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 4: pick trades. They were very unusual, very rare. Once every

957
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 4: couple of years you'd see a bonanza. But now they're

958
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 4: more frequent. So I think that's another avenue, especially with

959
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 4: some salary cap restraints that you say, maybe that's a

960
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 4: way we go after somebody as opposed to signing a

961
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 4: big money free agent, because.

962
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 2: I was thinking, like, even player for player trades could

963
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 2: be an mn here, Like you look at you know,

964
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 2: so Tennessee, just to use your example, going from a

965
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 2: three four to a four to three to and Andre

966
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,800
Speaker 2: Sweat at three hundred and sixty six pounds really doesn't

967
00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 2: fit there. The Bills could would love to have a

968
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 2: was tackled like that. I would imagine to add to

969
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 2: their ranks playing a three four. It's like, hey, we

970
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 2: got this four to three guy that you could use.

971
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 2: You want to give us de Andre Sweat for him,

972
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 2: and like a laid pick like these are the things

973
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 2: that are kind of rolling around in my head. Doesn't

974
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 2: have to be a headliner like Max CROs but it

975
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 2: could be somebody like that who's still on a rookie contract.

976
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 4: And I think, you know, one of the reasons why

977
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 4: those kinds of trades are more common, and that makes

978
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 4: perfect sense to me, is that you know, you have

979
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 4: devoted salary cap people, people who study the salary cap

980
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 4: all year long, that know they're in house financials as

981
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 4: well as the rest of the league, and so you know,

982
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 4: you're always looking for opportunity purchases, right somebody with an

983
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:41,879
Speaker 4: expiring contract next year that could turn into a compensatory pick,

984
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 4: a player no longer needed in the current system, that

985
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 4: isn't valued the same way they were a year or

986
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 4: two ago, you know, when they signed their extension or

987
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 4: when they were drafted. So all those opportunities, I think

988
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,720
Speaker 4: in just the expansion of how we look at NFL

989
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 4: rosters and how we break it down, that leads to

990
00:54:57,680 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 4: possibilities like your Devandre Sweat.

991
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,240
Speaker 1: You know there one of the things about this offseason,

992
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 1: there were ten openings at head coach uh and like

993
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 1: you've just been talking about, a huge upheaval. Rosters are

994
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 1: going to be churned because of the philosophical changes of

995
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: different free agent philosophies, different types of players, profiles. And

996
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,879
Speaker 1: for the first time in a long time, you got

997
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 1: like three perennial playoff teams in Pittsburgh, Baltimore and Buffalo

998
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 1: who all switched head coaches. What kind of who are

999
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 1: you looking at? The ten guy? And I know it's

1000
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:30,439
Speaker 1: a ten is a long list. I'm sorry. I don't

1001
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 1: want to put you on the spot, but you know

1002
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 1: you got Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Buffalo. Of course, you know what

1003
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 1: other of the other openings, I mean, what do you

1004
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,959
Speaker 1: look for from those clubs? Are who's gonna turn it around?

1005
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 1: Fat and the Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, you know, turn it around,

1006
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 1: but just build a little bit, right, But some of

1007
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: the other opportunities, who's gonna go from three and fourteen

1008
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 1: to fourteen and three this year?

1009
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1010
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously, you know you look at Baltimore for instance,

1011
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 4: and you know it's interesting that they kind of go

1012
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 4: in an opposite director getting a younger coach and obviously

1013
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 4: somebody with some Harbaugh ties too, which makes it even

1014
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,359
Speaker 4: more interesting. But then obviously John goes to New York

1015
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 4: and it's a Giants team that you know, has has

1016
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 4: a roster that's very interesting, some high end talent. You

1017
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 4: look at the top twenty percent of their roster. I

1018
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 4: think it stacks up pretty darn well with with some

1019
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 4: other teams around the league that have playoff appearances, you know,

1020
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 4: five hundred records somewhere closer to the top of the

1021
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 4: division as opposed to the bottom where the Giants have

1022
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 4: been recently. So, you know, John Harbaugh's history success I

1023
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 4: think lends a possibility that if they keep Jackson Dart upright,

1024
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 4: you know, that could be a situation where he kind

1025
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 4: of turns things around. And Pittsburgh's really interesting too.

1026
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 3: What do they do at quarterback? Is Aaron Rodgers in

1027
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:42,280
Speaker 3: the picture?

1028
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 4: Obviously Mike McCarthy knows a little about him in history,

1029
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 4: and they've been so steady for so long. I mean,

1030
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 4: the losing seasons did not happen under Mike Tom literally

1031
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 4: didn't happen. But can they take that next step that

1032
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 4: was always the knock against Mike and Dallas, and for

1033
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 4: parts of his Green Bay tenure was that he always

1034
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 4: feelded good team or routinely did, but couldn't always get

1035
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 4: to the mountaintop. So a couple of interesting situations among

1036
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 4: those ten changes, for sure.

1037
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:11,720
Speaker 2: Let's Eric get to your NFL power rankings post Super

1038
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 2: Bowl here and we'll cut right to the chase. You've

1039
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 2: got the Bills in the five hole, and you're acknowledging

1040
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 2: some of the change that's going to be coming here

1041
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 2: on the defensive side of the ball. In your assessment,

1042
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 2: what do you think, because we've been talking to our

1043
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 2: listeners about this today, what do you think is an

1044
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 2: acceptable floor for this Bills defense in year one under

1045
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 2: Jim Leonard knowing the collective expectations for the team are higher.

1046
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great question.

1047
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 4: Obviously, it's hard to know not knowing you know, just

1048
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 4: how much change is going to be on that side

1049
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 4: of the ball. And there were some things the Bills

1050
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 4: obviously did very well defensively. You know, how does that

1051
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 4: translate to a maybe a blitz heavier scheme and odd front,

1052
00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 4: you know, some of these things that that Jim Leonard

1053
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 4: brought for I guess you know, you'd call it the

1054
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 4: Rex Ryan school, if you will, which is a vast

1055
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 4: departure from from what Sean did. So how much does

1056
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 4: that translate? How much depth is there? Obviously? You know,

1057
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 4: we know up front there was an issue, you know,

1058
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 4: not enough healthy bodies, you know, not being able to

1059
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 4: stop the run consistently. That's obviously got to get better,

1060
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 4: you know. And what the linebacker position looks like, that

1061
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 4: could be wholly different, you know, the pass frus situation.

1062
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 4: Where does Greg Russeau line up? You know, I have

1063
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 4: all these questions kind of rolling through my head. Is

1064
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 4: Maxwell Harriston ready for starting duty? Does Cole Bishop maybe

1065
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 4: level up a little bit in this kind of aggressive scheme?

1066
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 4: You know, So there's a lot of things kind of

1067
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 4: rolling around in your head as you as.

1068
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 3: You weigh the possibilities.

1069
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 4: I guess the answer would be at least to the

1070
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 4: level that they performed last year overall. And I know

1071
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 4: it could look different, but you know, somewhere on that

1072
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 4: level or better.

1073
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 3: I think is is if you're.

1074
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 4: Going to make a change, especially one as dramatic as

1075
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 4: a head coach, you significant influence over one side of

1076
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 4: the ball, you better see some results. I think that's

1077
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 4: gonna be the expectation going into a new year.

1078
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,439
Speaker 1: So the Bill, we sit here and we talk about

1079
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 1: the Bills twenty four to seven. That's all we think about.

1080
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 1: But as you get to this point of the season,

1081
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 1: you watch the Super Bowl and other teams play in

1082
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 1: the playoffs along with your own, everybody has flaws, right.

1083
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 1: The only one that think they're unflawed or is better

1084
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:25,919
Speaker 1: is the Seahawks who win it all. Right, even now

1085
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 1: in retrospecting in the echo chamber, the New England Patriots

1086
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 1: are really flawed. What give us, you know, give us

1087
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 1: your assessment. Which of the teams who made a great

1088
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 1: push this year, like the Seahawks, or like like the Seahawks,

1089
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 1: like all these the Rams, the New England Patriots, all

1090
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 1: these teams that got into the playoffs, the Broncos. Who

1091
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 1: is so flawed that they may not be able to

1092
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 1: come back and bounce back and have a good year

1093
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 1: like they did last year. Who's not going to be

1094
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 1: a perennial playoff team.

1095
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good question.

1096
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 4: Obviously, you kind of look at the teams that have

1097
00:59:56,560 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 4: significantly tougher schedules. Maybe they're on the you know, beside

1098
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 4: that gets the eight home games instead of nine, you know,

1099
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 4: I mean there are a number of factors. Obviously, you

1100
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 4: can lose a lot in the offseason. So you know,

1101
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 4: Minnesota last year was a great example. They go fourteen

1102
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 4: and three, lose their first playoff game, change quarterbacks, and

1103
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 4: the season goes off the rails quickly. So some kind

1104
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 4: of big seismic change like that is what you think

1105
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 4: of there. And we could have a lot of teams

1106
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 4: switch quarterbacks. I don't know if they're necessarily going to

1107
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 4: be the ones that were winning ten, eleven, twelve games

1108
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 4: and more, but certainly those teams could could go in

1109
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 4: opposite directions. But as far as the teams that are

1110
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 4: falling off, look New England faced. I'm probably playing to

1111
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 4: the locals here by knocking them down a peg or two,

1112
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 4: but face one of the easiest regular season schedules that

1113
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 4: we've seen in a couple of years, and so that

1114
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 4: just that alone, I think helped propel them to fourteen

1115
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 4: to three. Now, they beat Buffalo once obviously, and had

1116
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 4: some big victories along the way, not taking away from

1117
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 4: anything they did, but you saw offensively how they kind

1118
01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 4: of flatlined or leveled off and then took a big

1119
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 4: dip in the Super Bowl, so you know, all of

1120
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 4: a sudden they have some big questions to answer, and

1121
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 4: you know, a tougher schedule next year, you know, more

1122
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 4: pressure on Drake May, more pressure on Mike Rabel, limited resources,

1123
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 4: maybe not as many off as last year to improve

1124
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 4: both sides of the ball. This still feels like a

1125
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 4: developing team to me in some respects. So you know,

1126
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 4: that's one possible candidate that could see their their win

1127
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 4: total go down, even if I think they're still going

1128
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 4: to remain competitive.

1129
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 2: All Right, we have entered mock draft season and you

1130
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 2: have followed suit dutifully with your first mock draft one

1131
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 2: point zero, and you've got the Bills at pick twenty six,

1132
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 2: taking the linebacker out of Georgia CJ. Allen, which makes

1133
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 2: a lot of sense to me because I'm kind of

1134
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 2: envisioning to real Bernard moving to that quote unquote week

1135
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 2: inside linebacker spot. They're gonna need somebody to be the mic. Sure,

1136
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 2: you have Shaq Thompson you could bring back to the

1137
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 2: fold after a very good rec clamation season after an

1138
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 2: Achilles injury. You could resign him and probably for pretty

1139
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 2: affordable money. But I think you need a guy that's

1140
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 2: probably going to have starter potential here, and it's a

1141
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 2: good linebacker class. Yeah, why did you pull the trigger

1142
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:14,439
Speaker 2: in round one?

1143
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 3: There are a lot of people in the NFL that

1144
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 3: like c J.

1145
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 4: Allen, and so I kept hearing there's a possibility he

1146
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 4: could be a first round pick. So some of it was,

1147
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 4: you know, it's a January mock. It was in the

1148
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 4: middle of Senior Bowl week, so there's quite a bit

1149
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 4: of projection going on here. But some of it was, Hey,

1150
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 4: let's find a place where c J. Allen would make sense.

1151
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 4: Denver would have been one of them, certainly, and the

1152
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 4: Buffalo Bills would be another. There are a few other

1153
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 4: teams that would that would certainly like him as well.

1154
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 4: But he's got some fans in the NFL. You know,

1155
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 4: receiver was in play. You know, I would have considered

1156
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 4: really any defensive position.

1157
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 3: For the right guy at that spot.

1158
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 4: You know, these aren't these aren't indelible ink, right, We're

1159
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 4: gonna we're gonna keep this in soft pencil at this

1160
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 4: time of year. But you know, I think you can

1161
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 4: connect some dots and make a case for c. J.

1162
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 4: Allen making being a smart first round pick for the Bills.

1163
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 4: So I think he'll go somewhere in that kind of

1164
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 4: twenty to forty range if I had to guess, depending

1165
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 4: on how he tests. He's not the most forceful player,

1166
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 4: but really active and high ceiling. I would say as

1167
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 4: a player, this could be the kind of guy who

1168
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 4: replicates that Matt Mulano level of play in a couple

1169
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 4: of years, or Terrell Bernard, etc.

1170
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 3: At its best.

1171
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think it makes some sense, even if

1172
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 4: it may not be exactly what everybody wants.

1173
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 1: Well, I'll say this in my experience, which isn't that

1174
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 1: vast in mock drafts at this time of year, the

1175
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 1: guys we think would be a great fit are never

1176
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:37,439
Speaker 1: on the board. When the Bills pick at twenty six.

1177
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 1: Those guys always shoot through the roof because they run

1178
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 1: a four to four or something like that right and there,

1179
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they become a top fifteen pick

1180
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 1: and their heart And that's what we don't know yet.

1181
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 1: What do you expect your expectations for any landscape shift

1182
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 1: once once the combine hits. Certainly there's always guys who

1183
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 1: jet to the top of the rankings we didn't hear about,

1184
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden are different. How do you

1185
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 1: anticipate that changing and if even if it changes like

1186
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 1: it does every year, what do you see.

1187
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's going to help kind of break

1188
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 4: some tie breakers at certain positions. You know, wide receiver,

1189
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 4: there are a lot of players. I think it's a

1190
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 4: pretty good class of receivers. You know, the more I've

1191
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 4: kind of looked at this, I think you're going to

1192
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 4: see some separation. Players we think might be top ten

1193
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 4: or fifteen picks now could fall if they don't work

1194
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 4: out well, if they don't test well medically, if they

1195
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:29,479
Speaker 4: don't interview well.

1196
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 3: At the combine. That's what makes it such an important week.

1197
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 4: I think the medical and the you know, the interview

1198
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 4: process obviously carry a lot of weight, but you know

1199
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 4: the workouts matter too. So you know, defensive end would

1200
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 4: be another one. And there's all different types this year too,

1201
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 4: and this obviously applies to the Bills. There's the stand

1202
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 4: up three to four outside linebacker types you saw it

1203
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 4: down a mobile to the different body shapes. Then there's

1204
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 4: the more kind of forceful, rugged inline guys, and so

1205
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 4: you know, maybe a little flexibility to move inside. I

1206
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 4: think you're going to see some exceptional work outs on

1207
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 4: the defensive line, including the defensive tackles too, which is

1208
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 4: a pretty good group to share as well, I believe.

1209
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 4: And you'll see a couple of freaks going at it

1210
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 4: where you say, hey, they're putting up you know, defensive tackles.

1211
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 4: They're putting up defensive line or defensive end type workouts,

1212
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 4: and defensive ends are doing linebacker type workouts. That obviously

1213
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 4: is going to help, you know, kind of push them

1214
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 4: up a little bit. And likewise the ones who don't

1215
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 4: test as well or don't get the opportunity because of

1216
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 4: an injury may slide a little bit. So some of

1217
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 4: the deeper positions tight end could be on that list too.

1218
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 4: I think it's a really good day two and three

1219
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 4: crop at the position, so you know, offensive line maybe

1220
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 4: a little less so, but wide receiver, defensive line, both spots,

1221
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 4: and then also tight end and maybe secondary as well

1222
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 4: though that's really the separator week.

1223
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 3: And you learn a lot in India.

1224
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 4: As far as who people have their eyes on and

1225
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 4: who kind of the hot names are so to speak.

1226
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 2: Last one for me here Eric, we always kind of

1227
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 2: keep our ear to the ground on the division and

1228
01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 2: looks like while we only had one coaching chain down

1229
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 2: in Miami. The coaching change the coaching changes in New

1230
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 2: York were pretty significant in light of the clean house

1231
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:10,480
Speaker 2: project that Aaron Glenn undertook after just one year on

1232
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 2: the job. But what are your early tea leave readings

1233
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 2: of the quarterback situations for both those two teams? Obviously

1234
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 2: we know two is cap situation is a little cost

1235
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 2: prohibitive unless they get past June first and wait that

1236
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 2: way to move on from him. And then the Justin

1237
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 2: Fields thing is a little bit of an enigma. Frank

1238
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 2: Reiches the new oc there. So maybe just read the

1239
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 2: tea leaves for us, if you could, at the quarterback

1240
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 2: position for those two teams in the AFCs.

1241
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, for Miami, you know, it sounds like they've made

1242
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 4: a decision. They're not revealing it yet, but it sounds

1243
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 4: like they've had enough internal discussions to feel comfortable with

1244
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 4: a plan. And if I had a guess, I would

1245
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 4: say they're going to look to move on from to

1246
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 4: a tongue of Bilo. It's just, you know, obviously there

1247
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 4: were some some high moments, some peaks, but it never

1248
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 4: really kind of progressed past that level. And with a

1249
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 4: coaching change, you kind of have the built in excuse

1250
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 4: of sort of moving on now. Obviously there are Sam

1251
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 4: Darnol like examples out there, So I think there'll be

1252
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 4: enough teams that say, hey, I think I can get

1253
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 4: something out of Tua or I've seen them at his

1254
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 4: best in Mike mcdale's system. Let's see if we can

1255
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 4: make this work elsewhere. And there are plenty of quarterback

1256
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:18,479
Speaker 4: needy teams, including the Jets. I don't think they would

1257
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 4: trade them within the division, but the Jets have to

1258
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 4: get somebody, right, And if let's say Miami with their

1259
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 4: little Green Bay connection there with Jeff Hafley and John

1260
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 4: Eric sulv in the new GM, let's say they convinced

1261
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 4: Malik Willis to take a maybe what Justin Field's got

1262
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 4: last year and a little bit more. That could be

1263
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 4: your starter in Miami. What happens in New York, though,

1264
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:40,560
Speaker 4: you know that's a player that they would certainly look at,

1265
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:42,920
Speaker 4: I would imagine, and may have more money to offer,

1266
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 4: So you know, you could see some interesting decisions for

1267
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 4: guys like Willis. So they say, do I take less

1268
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 4: money maybe a little better comfortable situation in Miami, or

1269
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:55,480
Speaker 4: do I take more money and go to a place

1270
01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 4: like New York that you know traded two of its

1271
01:07:57,760 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 4: best defenders and has a long way to go.

1272
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 3: They were not competitive in in December last year. How

1273
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 3: do you hard to see what direction they're going to go?

1274
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 4: And the draft may only offer one or one and

1275
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 4: a half potential starters this year, so it's a it's

1276
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 4: an unenviable position for the division rivals.

1277
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, in Miami, is there a map out of the

1278
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:21,720
Speaker 1: too of contract? It's a ninety nine million dollar cap hit.

1279
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 1: Teams have been willing to do it. I mean Denver

1280
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 1: did it two years ago and they were in Denver. Yeah, so, uh,

1281
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 1: we've seen other teams bite the bullet, but ninety nine

1282
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 1: million dollars is astronomy.

1283
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, your cap going to a player who is an

1284
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 4: on your rosters, right, I mean tell me that's not

1285
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:41,760
Speaker 4: going to have enough?

1286
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:43,600
Speaker 1: Is it a better way to maybe trade him for

1287
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 1: a bag of footballs and just pay some of the

1288
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 1: money and let you know what I mean, Uh, find

1289
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:50,799
Speaker 1: anybody to take him for something.

1290
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 4: I think there's a benefit to trading him post June first,

1291
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 4: So you could end up seeing a deal that that

1292
01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 4: you know, we know is coming and will eventually happen.

1293
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Speaker 4: But yeah, obviously, I think you pointed out that the

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01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 4: Denver situation rightfully so Russell Wilson obviously cost them a ton,

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01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:11,719
Speaker 4: but they're probably a bow Nick's injury away.

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Speaker 3: From being in the super Bowl this year.

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Speaker 4: In two years, they were able to overcome that, that

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01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 4: that that albatross of a contract, that boat anchor of

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01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:20,519
Speaker 4: a salary cap hit.

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01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 3: So you know that that's inspiration to teams.

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01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 4: We talked earlier about all the people in the front

1302
01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 4: office who spend time analyzing this. That has to be

1303
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 4: a point that's brought up, is that we can take

1304
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 4: this hit and here's the roadmap to do so.

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01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 3: Look, how Denver did it.

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01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:36,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, Eric, thanks for the time as always. I'm sure

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01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 2: we'll catch up with you a little bit later on

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01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 2: in the off season, although it's never really an off season,

1309
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 2: as you well know. Eric, Thanks for the time, all right,

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Speaker 2: see you guys at NFL dot com. Analyst lead draft

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01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:48,679
Speaker 2: writer Eric heat Holme will be pumping out the content

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01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:52,080
Speaker 2: on NFL dot Com. Already has his first mock draft out.

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Speaker 2: I'm all for the Georgia linebacker Buddy cej Allen, You're never.

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01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:01,560
Speaker 1: Gonna be there. He's never gonna be there at twenty.

1315
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:03,240
Speaker 2: Might not be if he runs a four to four,

1316
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:03,679
Speaker 2: he won't.

1317
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 1: It's too early for the best middle linebacker to be

1318
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 1: taken at twenty six. By the time the draft gets around,

1319
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:15,480
Speaker 1: other guys will have not a lot of lights constructed.

1320
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's not a lot of linebackers going round one.

1321
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 1: No.

1322
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 2: That right, that's what I'm saying. He might still be there, He's.

1323
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 1: Not gonna be there, bro, you know what, I can feel.

1324
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 2: Quarterbacks, edge rusher, by that, defensive tackle, wide receivers, and corners.

1325
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 1: But and we know this too, this is true too.

1326
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 1: This is absolutely gonnap. Even if he's gonna be there,

1327
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 1: there will we will have hard conversations about whether or

1328
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:43,759
Speaker 1: not that's the right position to go with, or the

1329
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 1: wide receiver or the edge rusher or whatever whatever. There's

1330
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 1: gonna be a hard conversation. It's not just gonna be like, oh,

1331
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 1: he's there, take him.

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01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, It'll never be that. I'm not saying he's the

1333
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 2: end all, be all answer either, but you could. I

1334
01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 2: am gonna say you could do a lot worse. We

1335
01:10:59,320 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 2: see he can.

1336
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 1: He is. And the thing that I have I read

1337
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:05,880
Speaker 1: his profile and some of the you know, some of

1338
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:06,880
Speaker 1: the stuff about him.

1339
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 2: Leadership type exactly.

1340
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 1: Leader guy. He's a green dot player. That's a guy

1341
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 1: that when guys step into the huddle, they're looking for

1342
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 1: that guy. They want him on their team. That's the

1343
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:18,760
Speaker 1: kind of guy. And we have said it time and

1344
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 1: time again. You step into an NFL huddle, you got

1345
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:22,680
Speaker 1: to have a certain presence to command it.

1346
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:24,519
Speaker 2: C J.

1347
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 1: Allen seems to be one of those guys, and that's

1348
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 1: a huge plus form particularly is a young player coming

1349
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 1: after draft.

1350
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 2: What is the acceptable floor for you for the Bill's

1351
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 2: defense in twenty twenty six? We know change is happening there.

1352
01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 2: What is the bare minimum that is acceptable for you

1353
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 2: for what that defense does in twenty twenty six? You

1354
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 2: let us know on the tweets sheeet Next here on

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01:11:44,160 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 2: One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health, what is the

1356
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 2: acceptable floor for you for the Bill's defense in twenty

1357
01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:08,559
Speaker 2: twenty six where most of the bigger changes are going

1358
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 2: to be happening this off season. Let's get back to

1359
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 2: the tweet sheet for some of your responses on that

1360
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:19,679
Speaker 2: very subject. And we left off with Jim, who says

1361
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 2: to be top ten in stopping opponents on third down.

1362
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 2: Bill's defense didn't play complimentary ball last year. They allowed

1363
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 2: too many long drives, only forty two and a half

1364
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 2: percent at stopping teams on third down, which ranked twenty

1365
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 2: fifth in the NFL. Yeah, they were bottom third in

1366
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:39,680
Speaker 2: the league for the second year in a row. They

1367
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 2: were twenty ninth last year. I believe where they officially

1368
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:47,639
Speaker 2: finished was twenty fourth. But Jim's right, if top ten

1369
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:49,640
Speaker 2: might be a little lofty, but if you get the

1370
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 2: right pass rusher up front, might be able to make

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01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:53,559
Speaker 2: that happen.

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Speaker 1: You can stay healthy in the back end. Yeah, it's

1373
01:12:57,320 --> 01:13:00,679
Speaker 1: a big ask, but yes, third down be awesome.

1374
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:03,679
Speaker 2: Just get persistent problems.

1375
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 1: Be better on third down, even better, I mean just

1376
01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 1: not great, better, but just get yourself half of the

1377
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 1: league get Yeah, just on a third and speak thirteenth,

1378
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:15,679
Speaker 1: third and seven plus get them off the field instead

1379
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 1: of having it be a coin flip.

1380
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they were third and longs where it's like, oh,

1381
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 2: here we go. They got them in third and eleven

1382
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 2: it's like exactly, and then drives constantly.

1383
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 1: So that it was not constantly, but it was frustrating.

1384
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 1: And so yeah, they they.

1385
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:36,120
Speaker 2: Came up often enough to notice it.

1386
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 1: Yes, it did. Yeah, that's right. So that that's a

1387
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:43,680
Speaker 1: good That's a good tweet by Jim that that is

1388
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:49,640
Speaker 1: something situationally defensively, you gotta be better. I don't know

1389
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 1: how much certainly that came down to injuries, but your

1390
01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 1: pass rush injuries and your secondary and some of that

1391
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 1: stuff that but it's got to be some of it's

1392
01:13:57,240 --> 01:13:59,200
Speaker 1: got to be got to fall on coaching and scheme

1393
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 1: and that kind of thing. Is well, so we'll see

1394
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 1: if they get better, if they can be better. But man,

1395
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 1: oh man, would that would be a That'd be a

1396
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:10,480
Speaker 1: good drink of water after a long drought.

1397
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:15,040
Speaker 2: From Bill's Mafia. STF. We need Leonard's defense by the

1398
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:18,639
Speaker 2: end of next year to have found its identity by

1399
01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 2: the end of the season, which means we have optimized

1400
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 2: talent that is there to be the best of their

1401
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:29,240
Speaker 2: capabilities in their specific roles. If attacking and confusing opposing

1402
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 2: quarterbacks has achieved, Josh can do the rest. So a

1403
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 2: little bit of a roundabout description there, But yeah, I

1404
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:37,599
Speaker 2: don't think it ended next year. I think it's got

1405
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:38,360
Speaker 2: to happen before that.

1406
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:41,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've got to do more than you were able

1407
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 1: to do this year just squeezing into the playoffs. I

1408
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:47,240
Speaker 1: think you've got to have a home game so you

1409
01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 1: don't have to go three times on the road against

1410
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 1: really good football teams to get to the Super Bowl.

1411
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 1: At least one of those games needs to be.

1412
01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:58,559
Speaker 2: I mean, the Rams came close to pulling that off

1413
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:00,600
Speaker 2: and they couldn't do it either. Yeah, they had to

1414
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 2: play three road games. They got to the NFC Title

1415
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 2: Game and then lost to a division opponent thirty one

1416
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:08,600
Speaker 2: twenty seven in the NFC Championship. It's hard to do,

1417
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 2: even if you're playing your best football. It's hard to do.

1418
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 2: From Sitter Bitter, the floor is one hundred percent the

1419
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:20,920
Speaker 2: Super Bowl because we blew the whole thing up after

1420
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:23,800
Speaker 2: consistently going to the playoffs. We're a super Bowl or

1421
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 2: bust organization for the remainder of Brandon Bean's time here.

1422
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:31,920
Speaker 2: I'm sensing that sitter Bitter is a little bitter right now.

1423
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 1: Maybe.

1424
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:36,240
Speaker 2: I mean Terry Pagoula was asked the question point blank,

1425
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 2: is its super Bowl or bust? And he said, no,

1426
01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 2: that's not the way to bring a new head coach

1427
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 2: into the fold, you know, with those kinds, Which is

1428
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:49,759
Speaker 2: right of expectations. That's not to say that it doesn't

1429
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 2: exist out there and Bill's fandom.

1430
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:56,600
Speaker 1: But you got to say, if nothing else, and everybody,

1431
01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:59,840
Speaker 1: every owner in the NFL takes criticism from his fan base,

1432
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 1: and Terry's no different. You can't call him impatient where

1433
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 1: the Bills are concerned. Nine years they had Sean McDermott,

1434
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:15,920
Speaker 1: and they were painfully close so many times. That's a

1435
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:19,879
Speaker 1: long in this league, you rarely see owners as patient

1436
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 1: as this one. So it didn't surprise me that he said, no,

1437
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:28,960
Speaker 1: it's not like that. But I think realistically, you look

1438
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 1: at the history of the league, even for Sean McDermott,

1439
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:36,000
Speaker 1: you get to that they got that seventeen, then they

1440
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:39,879
Speaker 1: got Josh so it's a rookie year. Then eighteen nineteen

1441
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 1: twenty twenty where they got to the thirteen second game

1442
01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:46,200
Speaker 1: right where they were humming and they were beating teams

1443
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 1: that nobody thought they would ever beat, and they were

1444
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 1: playing like a team that we hadn't seen in twenty years.

1445
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:53,800
Speaker 1: It was just an amazing moment. That was a third

1446
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:57,320
Speaker 1: or fourth year that McDermott was there. Plus the COVID

1447
01:16:57,400 --> 01:16:59,719
Speaker 1: year kind of said everything, kind of made everything go crazy.

1448
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 1: So I think the timeline is kind of that, like

1449
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:08,519
Speaker 1: first two or three years, you're gonna take a big

1450
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 1: swing at it because you're gonna have everything up and

1451
01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:12,599
Speaker 1: running the way you want. It wouldn't surprise me if

1452
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:15,200
Speaker 1: Joe Brady had to tweak his staff after this year,

1453
01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Or to make some subtle

1454
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:22,519
Speaker 1: changes in free agency, and like Sean McDermott did in

1455
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:25,680
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, get rid of some guys that everyone was

1456
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 1: shocked that he said goodbye to. That may happen with

1457
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:32,519
Speaker 1: a new head coach. You forget it kind of always does.

1458
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 1: But I think the clock is ticking. There's no question

1459
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 1: about it. I think, and it's reasonable to say, you know,

1460
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 1: Josh is still elite yep. So you kind of gotta

1461
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:48,479
Speaker 1: think you're gonna get the benefit of the doubt in

1462
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:53,600
Speaker 1: some of these coin flip games because of Josh. You

1463
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 1: gotta get the defense to hold up its end of

1464
01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 1: the table, and you gotta get some guys in there

1465
01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 1: that will catch the ball when Josh throw it right,

1466
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:03,679
Speaker 1: that'll help him get the first down on a fourth

1467
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:06,719
Speaker 1: down on a push push, that will make a tough

1468
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:11,559
Speaker 1: catch when he throws under duress and a catch will

1469
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:14,680
Speaker 1: be a catch that would be nice. So you know,

1470
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:17,679
Speaker 1: all of that stuff has to happen. But I don't

1471
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 1: yet super Bowl or bus No, not for twenty twenty six.

1472
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:25,840
Speaker 1: But man, you this is a good football team and

1473
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:27,120
Speaker 1: you expected to play like that.

1474
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 2: Brian on the tweets sheets says one points per game

1475
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 2: allowed must improve. Two soft drop zone on third down

1476
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 2: must never be played again. Defend the first down marker

1477
01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:46,559
Speaker 2: and force punts. Three say goodbye to McDermott's darlings. Four

1478
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 2: Whether beans sinks us further cap wise? Not sure what

1479
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 2: the last one means.

1480
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:54,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're in really good shape cap wise. I mean

1481
01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 1: that's they got to get under.

1482
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:58,559
Speaker 2: They're over right now, the projected cap.

1483
01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:00,400
Speaker 1: I mean it's like a quiff of a hen that

1484
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:02,720
Speaker 1: does that. And yeah, because they've got they've got the

1485
01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:03,800
Speaker 1: cap figured out.

1486
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:05,599
Speaker 2: And I think there's some contracts they're going to get

1487
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:08,560
Speaker 2: out from under. There's some others that are going to restructure.

1488
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:12,479
Speaker 2: You know, the usual forces of nature that a GM

1489
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 2: has at his disposal. And I think the trade market,

1490
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 2: I mean we met. I asked Eric heat Home about

1491
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 2: it from NFL dot Com in our last segment and

1492
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:26,640
Speaker 2: I really think the trade market has a chance for

1493
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:32,040
Speaker 2: the GMS that are really plugged into assessing value player

1494
01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:35,560
Speaker 2: for player to move money off your books for a

1495
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:39,920
Speaker 2: player that doesn't fit anymore to acquire one that does. Ideally,

1496
01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:43,760
Speaker 2: someone who's still on his rookie contract or is at

1497
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 2: the end of a contract and has incentive to produce.

1498
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:52,040
Speaker 2: I remember, very early in Brandon Bean's tenure here he

1499
01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:55,280
Speaker 2: was big on signing people to one year deals, and

1500
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 2: I think you can look for players like that in

1501
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 2: the trade market as well, because if they only have

1502
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 2: one year left on their contract, you're not gonna have

1503
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:06,599
Speaker 2: to give up as much necessarily to acquire that player,

1504
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 2: because you go to the other GM you're like, hey,

1505
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:09,880
Speaker 2: he's got a year left on his contract. If he

1506
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:11,639
Speaker 2: has a big I'm gonna have to sign that guy

1507
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:12,240
Speaker 2: to big money.

1508
01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:12,479
Speaker 1: Again.

1509
01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:15,240
Speaker 2: That's a headache for me. I'm taking this guy off

1510
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 2: your hands, you know. So how about I only give

1511
01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:20,519
Speaker 2: you this instead of A B and C, I give

1512
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 2: you A and this little thing over here. So I

1513
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:27,640
Speaker 2: just think the trade market could prove fruitful in a

1514
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:32,280
Speaker 2: year where the free agent market isn't super sexy. So

1515
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:38,639
Speaker 2: when you open up yourself to trade possibilities. It also

1516
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:42,000
Speaker 2: widens the field of the kinds of players you can acquire,

1517
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:45,120
Speaker 2: provided your compensation fits the bill. I know that's a

1518
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 2: big if in some cases, and there might be some

1519
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:49,680
Speaker 2: teams that flat out don't want to trade with you

1520
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:53,200
Speaker 2: just because you're the Bills, and if you're in the AFC,

1521
01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 2: they don't need you to they don't want to improve

1522
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:59,160
Speaker 2: the competition. So there's some of that too, but that's

1523
01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 2: not gonna keep ranting being from picking up the phone

1524
01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 2: and inquiring.

1525
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:05,160
Speaker 1: Also, and his third point, he said, say goodbye to

1526
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:07,920
Speaker 1: mcdermot's door. I don't know what that means exactly specifically,

1527
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:10,320
Speaker 1: but obviously there's a thought process out there that some

1528
01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 1: fans think McDermott held onto guys because he liked them,

1529
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 1: whether they could play or not. I don't know if

1530
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 1: that's the case or not, but certainly there's gonna be

1531
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:21,320
Speaker 1: a rinse through the right you're gonna be I think

1532
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 1: most fans will be expecting a bigger roster turnover this

1533
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 1: year for the Bills than years past, and it may

1534
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:35,320
Speaker 1: be some familiar faces, certainly, but I don't know. Oh,

1535
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:35,840
Speaker 1: we don't know.

1536
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:39,759
Speaker 2: You mentioned points per game allowed. I mean the Bills

1537
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 2: finished twelfth in points allowed. Despite all the shortcomings on defense,

1538
01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:47,519
Speaker 2: lack of turnovers, poor play in the red zone, third

1539
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 2: down defense not up to snuff, run defense not up

1540
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:52,640
Speaker 2: to snuff, there's still top half of the league in

1541
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:55,800
Speaker 2: points allowed, right when all is said and done, And

1542
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:58,320
Speaker 2: that's playing against teams that are usually trying to catch

1543
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:03,360
Speaker 2: your offense. So right, I don't think that was really

1544
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:04,679
Speaker 2: that bad this past year.

1545
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:08,719
Speaker 1: And the Bills were number four overall in points per game,

1546
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:11,400
Speaker 1: so I mean right, so there was a good point

1547
01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 1: differential there for the Bills. It sometimes didn't seem like

1548
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 1: that obviously. Yep.

1549
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:21,280
Speaker 2: Marcelo on the tweets sheet says, I am not really

1550
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:26,200
Speaker 2: worried about numbers. It's more situational football. It would be

1551
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:28,880
Speaker 2: nice to have a defense that can take the opposite

1552
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:32,599
Speaker 2: offense off the field on third and long, like third

1553
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 2: and eleven in the fourth quarter of a playoff game

1554
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:39,920
Speaker 2: you're winning to close the game out. Yeah, And I

1555
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:43,759
Speaker 2: think that subject of frustration led over into the decision

1556
01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:50,600
Speaker 2: to move on from coach McDermott. It's clear that you know,

1557
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:53,360
Speaker 2: the decision that was made to move on from McDermott

1558
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:57,320
Speaker 2: was partially rooted in this team's inability to get off

1559
01:22:57,320 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 2: the field on third down in general, and then in

1560
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:06,280
Speaker 2: big spots as well in the playoffs. And it happened

1561
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:10,680
Speaker 2: several times over in the postseason and contributed to the

1562
01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:15,080
Speaker 2: end of Buffalo's postseason runs on many occasions, not all,

1563
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:18,000
Speaker 2: but a healthy number of them.

1564
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:20,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was frustrating at times, no question about it.

1565
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:24,559
Speaker 1: But in the playoffs everything gets turned up. You're playing

1566
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:26,880
Speaker 1: against a very good football team who expects to win

1567
01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:29,080
Speaker 1: and executes at a higher level than you do week

1568
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:31,840
Speaker 1: to week in the regular season. And you know you

1569
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 1: got to play better. You got to plan better, you

1570
01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 1: gotta practice better, you got to execute better. And I

1571
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:42,280
Speaker 1: you know, I will say it once more before the end,

1572
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 1: as we say goodbye the twenty twenty five season. You

1573
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:45,599
Speaker 1: gotta play well on that day.

1574
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 2: Yep, yes you do. We are gonna step aside, take

1575
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:53,280
Speaker 2: a break here, but come back with one more segment.

1576
01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:56,320
Speaker 2: We'll get some final thoughts from you on the one

1577
01:23:56,360 --> 01:24:13,479
Speaker 2: Bill's Live tweets sheet here next stay with us, all right,

1578
01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:15,439
Speaker 2: back for one final second here on a Wednesday, Chris

1579
01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:18,879
Speaker 2: Brown sky faster with you, what is an acceptable floor

1580
01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:22,559
Speaker 2: for the Bills defense? In twenty twenty six, knowing change

1581
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:25,840
Speaker 2: is a foot on that side of the ball. Back

1582
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 2: to the tweets, see we go and Greg says top

1583
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:33,000
Speaker 2: twelve in total yards with an increase on scoring defense, turnovers,

1584
01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:37,280
Speaker 2: and sacks. The Bills were seventh in total defense this

1585
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:43,719
Speaker 2: past season, scoring defense twelfth, takeaways they were a little

1586
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:48,040
Speaker 2: bit lower. Sacks they were eighteenth in the league.

1587
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting too, because we talked about they were

1588
01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 1: seventh overall in yardage given in total defense for the year.

1589
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:58,160
Speaker 1: It didn't feel like it to most No, right, No,

1590
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:00,719
Speaker 1: I don't care if they're ranked twelve. If it feels

1591
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 1: like they're ranked one.

1592
01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:04,559
Speaker 2: Well, and just to show you how deceiving it is,

1593
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:07,680
Speaker 2: they're seventh in total yards allowed, but they're twenty eighth

1594
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:09,760
Speaker 2: and run defense, which is just not going to win

1595
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 2: a game.

1596
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 1: Right, So it's whatever the rankings are total defense, you

1597
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:18,920
Speaker 1: want it to feel like a top five defense, you know,

1598
01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 1: a top ten defense. You want him to be a

1599
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:25,519
Speaker 1: factor in every game, and it just didn't always feel

1600
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:31,519
Speaker 1: like that. I'm so, I'm yeah, that's top twelve in

1601
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:34,439
Speaker 1: total yards. That's almost twice what they were this year.

1602
01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:35,160
Speaker 1: They're seventh.

1603
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:38,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Chuck on the twity sheet says, I think the

1604
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:42,519
Speaker 2: floor will be just constant improvement. The season may not

1605
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:44,559
Speaker 2: start out too well for the defense, but if they

1606
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:48,120
Speaker 2: improve and get better and gel more and more every week,

1607
01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:50,680
Speaker 2: they'll be super Bowl caliber right when they need to be.

1608
01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:53,519
Speaker 2: This is the most rational response. I was a good

1609
01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:54,560
Speaker 2: guy this afternoon.

1610
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 1: Very logical response from Chuck. I don't know if he

1611
01:25:57,280 --> 01:26:00,679
Speaker 1: fits into the tenor of our show. It's too reasonable,

1612
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:04,680
Speaker 1: too reasonable, but I like the way it sounds. Constant improvement.

1613
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:08,679
Speaker 1: We have been able to see that through the last

1614
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:11,840
Speaker 1: eight or nine years. Year by year they always kind

1615
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:13,920
Speaker 1: of come together and because of injuries or because of

1616
01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:16,400
Speaker 1: new players or young players getting plugged in and all

1617
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 1: of a sudden, now they're gonna play because of injury,

1618
01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:21,160
Speaker 1: they just get better and better. Like this last year,

1619
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:23,679
Speaker 1: Shaq Thompson gets on the field and all of a sudden, Wow, okay,

1620
01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:27,840
Speaker 1: here we go. Stuff like that happens. It'd be fun

1621
01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:31,280
Speaker 1: to see it happen for the fifteen guys who play

1622
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:33,960
Speaker 1: in majority of the snaps, right, sixteen guys who are

1623
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 1: gonna play ninety percent of the snaps in the NFL,

1624
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:39,320
Speaker 1: or the for the Bills defense. It would be great

1625
01:26:39,320 --> 01:26:42,400
Speaker 1: to see that happen week over week over week, have

1626
01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:44,599
Speaker 1: them get better and better, and then in these games,

1627
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:48,439
Speaker 1: the games at the end of the year, theoretically, the

1628
01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:50,080
Speaker 1: games that were you're just trying to coast to get

1629
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:52,840
Speaker 1: through the postseason and line your pitching staff up for

1630
01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:55,439
Speaker 1: the postseason kind of thing. You know, where Josh is

1631
01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:58,559
Speaker 1: in a ball cap after taking one snap, you know,

1632
01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:02,000
Speaker 1: I'll sign up for that licking and you know they

1633
01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 1: just can't wait to see him play in the postseason.

1634
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:07,599
Speaker 1: That that would be an awesome feeling from Nate.

1635
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:13,120
Speaker 2: Buffalo's third string defense finished seventh in the NFL. I

1636
01:27:13,160 --> 01:27:16,080
Speaker 2: don't know what that means. I'm looking to replace Oliver

1637
01:27:16,280 --> 01:27:19,920
Speaker 2: Epanessa and maybe Rousseau. That's it. I'm one hundred percent

1638
01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:23,960
Speaker 2: focusing on how Buffalo can avoid multiple twenty yard sacks,

1639
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:27,960
Speaker 2: hitting receivers in stride, throwing the ball away, stuff like that.

1640
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:30,760
Speaker 2: So those are his offensive criticisms.

1641
01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:34,599
Speaker 1: It would seem, yeah, he's the third Yeah, he thinks

1642
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:37,000
Speaker 1: Bill's third string defense is what they ended up the

1643
01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:40,760
Speaker 1: season with with, you know, with that's the floor with yeah,

1644
01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:44,880
Speaker 1: with you know, do what they did. Oliver was out. Mike,

1645
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 1: Mike Hoyt was out. You know, all the guys in

1646
01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:50,599
Speaker 1: the secondary were in and out of the lineup, Harriston

1647
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:55,559
Speaker 1: couldn't stay healthy, all of that stuff. So yeah, staying

1648
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:58,000
Speaker 1: healthy would be a huge boost. It would also help

1649
01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:00,160
Speaker 1: the defense improve, not just from the guys that they

1650
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:03,920
Speaker 1: start playing, but also staying on the field healthy means

1651
01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:08,200
Speaker 1: the good players get better too. Yeah, not that the

1652
01:28:08,240 --> 01:28:09,800
Speaker 1: guys that were playing last year back, you know what

1653
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:11,679
Speaker 1: I mean? Yes, I know it true. The starters would

1654
01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:14,240
Speaker 1: be improving as well, and not just the guys who

1655
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:16,000
Speaker 1: were backed up and who start to get the field.

1656
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:19,479
Speaker 2: For Yeah, Epinessa is a free agent, so he's certainly

1657
01:28:19,479 --> 01:28:22,120
Speaker 2: not a lock to be back, and obviously they'd be

1658
01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:24,400
Speaker 2: making the assessment as to whether or not he would

1659
01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:27,160
Speaker 2: fit a three to four system as as much as

1660
01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:29,800
Speaker 2: they'll be going over the guys that are still under

1661
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:33,240
Speaker 2: contract that Nate mentioned, like Ed Oliver and Greg Rousseau

1662
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:38,479
Speaker 2: as well, but twenty two unrestricted free agents for the Bills.

1663
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:43,120
Speaker 2: Wanted to go over the numbers by position for the

1664
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:46,439
Speaker 2: three hundred and nineteen combine invites Steve before we go,

1665
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:52,559
Speaker 2: fifteen quarterbacks, twenty one running backs, forty six wide receivers,

1666
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:55,439
Speaker 2: it's usually in the mid to upper forties. Twenty seven

1667
01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:58,880
Speaker 2: tight ends. That's a big number. Yeah, more Day two,

1668
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:01,000
Speaker 2: Day three prospects there, but it's a big number for

1669
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:05,400
Speaker 2: tight ends. Fifty seven offensive lineman, sixty three defensive linemen.

1670
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:10,280
Speaker 2: Now that counts outside linebacker edge rushers in that category.

1671
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:15,680
Speaker 2: Twenty nine linebackers, fifty four defensive backs. That's corners and safeties,

1672
01:29:16,200 --> 01:29:21,680
Speaker 2: and seven specialists. That makes up the three hundred and nineteen.

1673
01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:23,880
Speaker 1: Invites seven punters, kickers.

1674
01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:28,160
Speaker 2: And long snapper or two two possibly, I'll have to check.

1675
01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:31,240
Speaker 2: Usually the long snappers just show up and do the snapping,

1676
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:35,240
Speaker 2: but they're usually college prospects, So you know, it's fine.

1677
01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:38,960
Speaker 2: We'll be talking more combined in the not too distant future,

1678
01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:40,960
Speaker 2: but we're still talking Bill's roster. We'll do more of

1679
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:44,240
Speaker 2: that with you tomorrow on a Thursday edition of one

1680
01:29:44,280 --> 01:29:49,120
Speaker 2: Bill's Live. We'll see it one