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Speaker 1: Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: Oh it's You're live on a Thursday edition of the program.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in Cleveland Browns Daily, merely Bo the Great z

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Speaker 2: soun kiss Thursday pushing fifty this weekend, I'm told by

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Speaker 2: g Man.

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Speaker 3: People are saying it g Man. People are saying it easy. Easy.

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Speaker 3: A lot of people are saying a lot of things. Both.

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Speaker 2: Yes, they are Sunday fifty pushing fifty.

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Speaker 4: Common sense, snow will be gone, common sense. I have it,

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Speaker 4: others don't. By the way, Yeah, I think you and

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Speaker 4: I are. We are we wearing opposites?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Are we wearing the same thing?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 2: This no close, very close, very close. Yeah. And your

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Speaker 2: Navy over gray and I'm gray over navy.

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Speaker 3: How about that? It's time to be alive?

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Speaker 6: What a time?

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Speaker 4: And a very similar Is it the same brand or no?

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Speaker 4: That's a Lulu? Yeah okay, but this.

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Speaker 3: Is the one I got. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I have

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Speaker 3: that one. Yeah, it's a nice waffle shout out there.

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Speaker 3: It is. Yeah, like that pony on there looks great.

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Speaker 6: I like it.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 2: The only thing is I don't know that it's instantly

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Speaker 2: recognizable as what it is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Right.

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Speaker 2: And also to me, I thought that when you first

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Speaker 2: walked in here with that, I asked you about it.

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Speaker 3: I said, is that a new it's like the Breeders

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Speaker 3: cup or something. Yeah, it does.

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Speaker 2: There's so many eth leisure brands out there. I thought,

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Speaker 2: is there some new horse themed ath leisure brand that

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Speaker 2: I was unaware of?

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Speaker 3: Do you think it?

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Speaker 1: Just?

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Speaker 3: The steed is fine? But maybe you have like the

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Speaker 3: Crossing Golf clubs underneath.

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Speaker 2: It, like, well also you need Yeah, Acrossing Golf club

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Speaker 2: would be wonderful. The steed is I love a steed,

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Speaker 2: And then I think you probably want like a W

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Speaker 2: a W somewhere somewhere. Yeah, but I do like the

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Speaker 2: fact that you pick a steed. Yeah, that's a win. Trustee.

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Speaker 3: What comes with trusty trust trusty steed? That's what you need?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Ours?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like ours are just you got add

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Speaker 2: some to it. I think you got to have an animal. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's what you want and a if you can find

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Speaker 2: a way to shoehorn an animal into a golf course logo,

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Speaker 2: then you're on something there.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would just take honest to goodness, I would

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Speaker 4: just take the black Forest brownsbackers logo and say that's

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Speaker 4: my that's my logo.

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Speaker 3: Anything that starts with a stag, it's gonna be really good.

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Speaker 5: Wins.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that wins. That wins every single day. Uh, give

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Speaker 2: me your Day three Senior Bowl takeaways. Well, just underway,

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Speaker 2: just underway, some of my day too.

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Speaker 4: Takeaways that you have, some takeaways you watch closely, some

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Speaker 4: of the winners and lose. I'm gonna be honest with

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Speaker 4: you before you even go on here. I'm just gonna

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Speaker 4: tell you silly seasons tough. It's tough sledding.

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Speaker 3: Brother.

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Speaker 4: Well, I was just saying, we're trying to fight the

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Speaker 4: good fight, and we're in. We still have in the

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Speaker 4: end of the season. I know, we haven't even gotten

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Speaker 4: to the combine. After the combine, he's still got two

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Speaker 2: It is, but at least you'll have some free agency.

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Speaker 2: At least when you get to the draft, you'll have

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Speaker 2: players of of major consequence known commodities to discuss. There

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Speaker 2: are some great players at the Senior Bowl. There are,

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Speaker 2: and there could be some guys who end up on

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Speaker 2: this team in the second round, third round. Whoever, I

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Speaker 2: don't think the second round, second pick in the draft

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Speaker 2: not so like you have, there's depth guys there, but

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Speaker 2: it's tough to I mean, I'm not even watching like

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Speaker 2: the NFL network coverage of this, and you got Jeremiah

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Speaker 2: and they're breaking this stuff down. It's like, man, you're

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Speaker 2: just watching lineman go through drills, Like, what are we doing?

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Speaker 3: How much? How much can you take from this? And

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Speaker 3: here's the thing that folks don't understand.

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Speaker 4: Bubba's been great though, he's great doing the like boxing round.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, those are great.

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Speaker 2: But the reality is is that what percentage would you

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Speaker 2: on prospects has been made via college scouting and how

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Speaker 2: much will be made over the next two months.

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Speaker 3: That's a good question that we should ask a b

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Speaker 3: do it at the combine. Many I'm going to say.

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Speaker 4: Seventy five, seventy five, Hey is in the barn seventy five.

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Speaker 3: I was going to go a little.

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Speaker 2: Higher, but I think we're in the same vicinity, and

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Speaker 2: I would think that the only thing let me just

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Speaker 2: let's re let me just see if I can find

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Speaker 2: a way to rephrase this even where to pin down

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Speaker 2: the point even more so, I don't think there's anything physically,

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Speaker 2: or maybe less than five percent, if you want to

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Speaker 2: about a prospect in terms of their physical abilities is

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Speaker 2: going to be made up in the next two months.

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Speaker 2: If you shy from a player in the next two months,

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Speaker 2: it'll because of something that they say, or that doesn't

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Speaker 2: like them personally as a personality. So I would say

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Speaker 2: that physically ninety percent, ninety five percent of what you

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Speaker 2: the tape. Yeah, that's the that's the meat and potatoes.

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Speaker 4: So as I say seventy five percent, I said, I

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Speaker 4: what's gonna what's going to fill that out are medical

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Speaker 4: then person interviews. I sometimes the times just like the

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Speaker 4: raw athletic traits, and that's typically going to be to

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Speaker 4: back up what you saw, what you believe you saw

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Speaker 4: It could even be ninety ten, honestly, but it's what

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Speaker 2: I think unless somebody, unless something pops up medically, that's

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Speaker 3: That's a big part of it pops up. That's why

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Speaker 3: I thought, that's why he made it still a quarter. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think that's right.

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Speaker 2: I think your quarters are right number when you add

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Speaker 2: the medical part of it, the that that side of it,

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Speaker 2: and then the personality side of it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think you know and all that, but

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Speaker 2: Of like what you see on tape, and I like

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Speaker 2: how you phrase that too. From the standpoint of whatever

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Speaker 2: over the next two months Senior Bowl combine to validate

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Speaker 2: your already belief in who they are as a player. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: there's very few instances where I mean there's some it's

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Speaker 2: it's usually a mistake, like when DK Metcalf didn't run

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Speaker 2: a good cone or whatever the hell that was, and

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Speaker 2: we're like, well, he ran really fast, he's really strong,

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Speaker 2: he's really big, like he can go and it's like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, he didn't have a Grade three cone

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Speaker 4: Yeah, i'd agree with that. I think that's always got

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Speaker 4: be right that the tape don't lie. I will say

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Speaker 4: there are some cl year winners and losers happening down there,

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Speaker 4: and I talked with Ceciliano about it a little bit

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Speaker 4: yesterday as well. Mike Green, the edge from Marshall, is

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Speaker 4: been the most dominant player there. They think that he's

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Speaker 4: going to be a top sixteen pick.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 4: A lot of people are saying they think that he's

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Speaker 4: He had that rap where he bull through the guy

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Speaker 4: on the ground like a little child. And that was

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Speaker 4: he certainly has been a guy that's gotten a lot

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Speaker 4: of attension. The other would be Tez Johnson from Oregon.

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Speaker 3: He's a good player.

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Speaker 4: So he weighed at one hundred and fifty six pounds really,

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Speaker 4: which would put him in a you don't bet on anomalies,

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Speaker 4: you don't, right, don't bet on outliers five to nine

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Speaker 4: a buck fifty six. But he has been dominant and

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Speaker 4: they're saying he's have a Senior Bowl performance similar to

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Speaker 4: that of Lad McConkie and tanked out. Now Lad went

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Speaker 4: second round, tinked del went third. But I mean this

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Speaker 4: the one correct me if I'm wrong in the game

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Speaker 4: against the Buckeyes the playoff game, who got open on

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Speaker 4: the vertical but Dylan Gabriel under threw him? Is that

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Speaker 4: he was he was like he had separate it should

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Speaker 3: It's a touchdown.

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Speaker 4: So he's he's been very good, unguardable in the one

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Speaker 4: on ones. So these are some other names. Darius Alexander,

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Speaker 4: the defensive tackle out of Toledo has had a good

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Speaker 4: day to Trey Amos, cornerback, got an old miss. Jalen Royals,

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Speaker 4: wide receiver, Utah State five eleven, two ten. Now what's

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Speaker 4: interesting for tes is he has the same wingspan as

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Speaker 4: Jalen Royals, who's a significantly bigger receiver.

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Speaker 3: And then the losers, they.

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Speaker 4: Said the tackle from Oregon who got steamrolled by Mike Green,

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Speaker 4: josh Connery junior, Joshua Farmer, defensive tackle Florida State, landon

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Speaker 4: Jackson Edge of Arkansas. And then here's this Jalen Milroe.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he has been a barutal.

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Speaker 3: He's not accurate.

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Speaker 4: Thirty three percent of his passes more than five yards

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Speaker 4: in the air were uncatchable. It's been in Alabama. It's

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Speaker 4: not fifty to fifty whether he's completing a pass. It's

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Speaker 4: really been fifty to fifty whether or not the receiver

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Speaker 4: has an opportunity to make contact with the football, not

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Speaker 4: catch it, but can they even contact the football.

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Speaker 2: He's actually, I thought a great example of someone who

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Speaker 2: should have returned, because he still has eligibility, should have

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Speaker 2: returned to Alabama and played under Kaylin de Borr in

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Speaker 2: that offense for a second year. They have a seventeen

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Speaker 2: year old true freshman wide receiver there named Ryan Williams

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Speaker 2: who graduated high school a year early. Who when Jeremiah

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Speaker 2: Smith goes wherever he goes, he will be the next

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Speaker 2: receiver off the board in that draft. He is a stud.

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Speaker 2: The last half of the last season, he couldn't get

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Speaker 2: They could not connect. Yep, he had a monster game

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Speaker 2: against Georgia, Ryan Williams did and so did Jalen Milroe.

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Speaker 2: But as the season went along, it fell off a

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Speaker 4: That ain't it, brother, That ain't it no, And that

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Speaker 4: went through it yesterday. He's nowhere near what hurts and

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Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson or nowhere near as runner as a runner

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Speaker 2: Sure, he's the type of guy who, if that were

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Speaker 3: He's like Welle Willis, Yes, but.

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Speaker 2: He's also the type of guy who would probably benefit

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Speaker 2: difficult to develop in this league at that position. They're

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Speaker 2: there's no there's no time to be coached up. You're

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Speaker 2: You're not worried about developing quarterback from three years from now.

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Speaker 2: They got to be self starters. And if they're finite

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Speaker 2: in terms of their most challenging games this season. How

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Speaker 2: He was twelve for eighty one in that game. In

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Speaker 2: the first Ohio State game, he was seven for seventy

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Speaker 2: He went eleven for one to eighty one and a

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Speaker 3: That right though, that he was the one who's stuck

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Speaker 3: pretty sure you have that right. But he's a weapon.

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Speaker 2: I mean he was dangerous for them, absolutely, And that's

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Speaker 2: what you're looking for. Yeah, you know you're looking for

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Speaker 2: That's that's you and I talked about this yesterday. You're

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Speaker 2: I have to be worried about, concerned about, something that

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Speaker 2: what this league's about. You have to score points and

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Speaker 2: So he's got that.

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Speaker 4: He most certainly does have that he does and that's

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Speaker 4: like to your point, Yeah, that's what you need. You

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Speaker 4: And at that size, you know, I think he's that

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Speaker 4: probably puts them in the third round. You know, that's interesting.

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Speaker 4: It's smaller than you would like. And again, my favorite

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Speaker 4: receiver in this draft is well documented that it's you know,

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Speaker 3: Love him. Think you have a good obviously Hunter's a

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Speaker 4: But yeah, if playmakers are are are a priority for

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Speaker 4: this football team. We've talked about it at nauseum. At

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Speaker 4: This year, we were the thirty second ranked offense in

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Speaker 4: the National Football League.

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Speaker 3: They're thirty two teams.

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Speaker 4: It can't you can't win that way in twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty four, twenty twenty five and beyond. That's just

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Speaker 4: So I think that that is the only thing that

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Speaker 4: is we're going to get this quarterback thing right. We're

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Speaker 4: gonna be aggressive and attacking it, and we're going to

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Speaker 3: That's it. That's all you can do.

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Speaker 5: Just to buttress your point on Milrow.

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Speaker 2: Their signature win last year at Alabama was the win

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Speaker 2: That was the half of the yard Williams. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: and that was it from that point on. So they

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Speaker 2: they went one, two, three, four, five, five and four

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Speaker 2: Now he's got some big rushing totals in there. He's

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Speaker 3: But he was twelve of.

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Speaker 2: Eighteen for one hundred and nine. Ran for one hundred

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Speaker 4: Not throw a touchdown pass in four of the last

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Speaker 3: Well, his only Auburn Michigan.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 4: Everything else, take Mercer out of it and just have

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Speaker 3: Starting after that.

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Speaker 4: Well, after four touchdowns, ten picks, after the Georgia game,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they lost four of those games. They went

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Speaker 3: So that's that's it.

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Speaker 2: Other good news of the day, Miles Garrett voted the

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Speaker 2: Sporting News twenty twenty four Defensive Player of the Year,

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Speaker 2: voted on by the players how do they get that done?

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Speaker 2: How does his players get to Sporting News hook up

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: But that's also not the one that counts, right, the

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Speaker 4: one that counts as the AP.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they all count, but.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but the one that goes down to like how

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Speaker 2: many time Defensive Player of the Year is the AP.

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Speaker 2: I wonder how they get the coaches. I wonder how

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Speaker 3: At the Sporting News. I don't know how they get them,

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Speaker 3: how many actually do parton what percent? I don't know.

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Speaker 3: He's very deserving. I think that's fantastic. Yeah, certainly, And

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Speaker 2: The other one, right, is that the planners that Friday

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Speaker 3: Before the Super Bowl? Yeah? Exactly? All right, there you go?

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Speaker 3: Anything else? Any other Senior Bowl information, anything else you

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Speaker 3: want to get to. No, I think that's it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think none of the quarterbacks have really

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Speaker 4: a toolsy prospect, but that has not necessarily been great.

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Speaker 4: Some people like you know, Dylan Gabriel for certain, for

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Speaker 4: You know, could be a backup in those type of systems.

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Speaker 4: Tyler Show, Tyler Show. Yeah, he was at Purdue and

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Speaker 4: then followed that, so it could be like a late

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Speaker 4: he followed Bram and that system is one that's similar.

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Speaker 3: Like his adjustment won't be much.

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Speaker 5: He's mel Kiper's tenth best quarterback in this draft.

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Speaker 3: Where's Dart third?

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Speaker 5: Off the top of my head, I don't know, but.

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Speaker 3: I'm curious about dark because I definitely like you're going

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Speaker 3: to do that. There's I know, but his his stats.

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Speaker 3: You brought it up, we know it.

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Speaker 4: Nineteen of his twenty nine touchdown or nine of his

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Speaker 4: nineteen of the twenty nine touchdowns came in four games.

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Speaker 3: Yeah against bad teams.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Arkansas was the only one that he liked that

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Speaker 4: he really lit up. But I'm curious to just watch

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Speaker 4: But that'll be he'll be interesting.

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Speaker 3: We'll see, we'll see.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you're again number two, great position to certainly

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Speaker 4: help this football team turn around quickly. We know it's possible.

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Speaker 4: And one of the things I was trying to say was,

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Speaker 3: Dude.

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Speaker 2: There wasn't anybody over there who was like, I don't

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Speaker 2: know the Bears ought to think about this, really No, No,

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Speaker 2: it was like Williams period May and Daniel big gap

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Speaker 3: You just don't know.

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Speaker 2: To answer your question on the quarterback rankings, Kuiper has

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Speaker 2: Schadur number one, cam Ward two, Jackson Dart three, Milroe

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Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel eight, Curtis Rourke nine, Tyler Show ten.

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Speaker 5: So that is the just updated that I want to say,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's brand new. So it is so interesting to me,

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Speaker 3: So he loves Shador.

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Speaker 2: He fourth overall in his total draft breakdown, cam fifth.

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Speaker 2: So the idea that anyone would reach for either one

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Speaker 2: It's not like he's got Shadur the forty eighth prospect

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Speaker 4: Right, right, And that doesn't mean that's on our board.

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Speaker 3: No, but that's his.

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Speaker 2: But ys Mason Graham third on his board, Abdul Carter

441
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Speaker 2: first on his board, and try Hunter, I'm sorry, Abdua

442
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Speaker 2: Carter second, Travis Hunter first.

443
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Speaker 3: That's Kuiper's board, O.

444
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Speaker 4: Because it stands right now. So here's the thing. Let's

445
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Speaker 4: just take Shador as an example. You look at at

446
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Speaker 4: a Pat Shermer. Where was he in sixteen seventeen and

447
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Speaker 4: eighteen or sixteen and seventeen, I'm sorry, Minnesota Minnesota Vikings?

448
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Speaker 4: Who was with the Minnesota Vikings then Kevin Stevanski. In fact,

449
00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:38,000
Speaker 4: he was the offensive coordinator in two thousand and seventeen.

450
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Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure Kevin would have been the quarterbacks coach

451
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Speaker 4: at that time. I could be wrong, that could be

452
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Speaker 4: before he became quarterback coach. But let's say twenty seventeen, Yes,

453
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Speaker 4: he was the quarterbacks coach. I don't know how many

454
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Speaker 4: of you are aware of this, but the quarterbacks coach

455
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Speaker 4: and the OC.

456
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Speaker 3: Work very closely. Yep. Because the quarterback is obviously the

457
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Speaker 3: key to everything.

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Speaker 2: What was Pat Shermer's role last year, he was the

459
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Speaker 2: offensive coordinator of the Colorado Buffaloes. Actually came in the

460
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Speaker 2: middle of the previous year. There was the guy who

461
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Speaker 2: was the coach at what Kent State or act Kent State? Yeah,

462
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Speaker 2: who they hired him, Jason Jason Candle.

463
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Speaker 3: I don't know.

464
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Speaker 4: He had some big credentials and he was there in

465
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Speaker 4: twenty three as the analyst and then became the offensive

466
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Speaker 4: coordinator in the middle of the season at Toledo.

467
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there were Shermer came in.

468
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Speaker 2: Even Jean Lewis was there. Sean Lewis. That's it, Sean.

469
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Speaker 2: They brought in Seawan Lewis. He's one of the bright

470
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Speaker 2: offensive mines. Dion brought him in from Kent Kent State,

471
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Speaker 2: and so he goes out there and then they get

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Speaker 2: rid of him halfway through and Shermer takes over play

473
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Speaker 2: calling becomes the officive coordinator. So the second half of

474
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Speaker 2: last year and all of this year's officeive coordinators Pat.

475
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Speaker 4: Shermer, who has a great relationship with yep, Kevin Stefanski.

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Speaker 4: Now we've also seen and I love how people find

477
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Speaker 4: these things, but of unbelievable kind of anecdote from Dion.

478
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Speaker 4: I know if you've seen this video talking about the

479
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Speaker 4: Super Bowl in which he was a forty nine er

480
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Speaker 4: and they beat the Chargers, and he's talking about it

481
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Speaker 4: in the blow it's a blowout. So he goes to

482
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Speaker 4: George Seafert and he says, get get Billy in there. No,

483
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Speaker 4: get Billy in there. Let's give him some time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Billy is of course Bill Muskra of course our

485
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Speaker 3: quarterbacks coach.

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Speaker 4: So in terms of will we have knowledge or familiarity, yes,

487
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Speaker 4: that doesn't that's not say that. That means we're going

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Speaker 4: to have a very informed opinion one way or the other,

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Speaker 4: as informed as can be. Because the most informed, you

490
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Speaker 4: could argue Bill Musgrave, who was the backup to I

491
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Speaker 4: forget that guy's name, wasn't a good starter, had a

492
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Speaker 4: big monkey on his back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, something very unable to No, it wasn't Joe Montana

494
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Speaker 3: gave it wasn't Joe Montana. Oh I know it was.

495
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Speaker 3: It was a big yeah.

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Speaker 5: Followed up Joe that also continued the winning ways like

497
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Speaker 5: that anyhow, Elvis, anyhow, Steven Stone, so Muskgrave would stay

498
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Speaker 5: after practice.

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Speaker 4: Dion wanted to make sure if a ball ever was

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Speaker 4: near me, caught it and would throw them. He said,

501
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Speaker 4: over the course of season, thousands of passes after practice.

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Speaker 4: So Muskgrave and Dion actually became very good friends, and

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Speaker 4: that's why Dion went to Seaford, had to put in

504
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Speaker 4: and Musgrave on a third and twenty five said you

505
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Speaker 4: can call whatever you want and wanted to complete a

506
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Speaker 4: pass in the Super Bowl, and so on a third

507
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Speaker 4: and twenty five he was able to complete like a

508
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Speaker 4: six yard pass or whatever.

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Speaker 3: So he's completed a pass in s. That's cool.

510
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Speaker 4: So in terms of you know, what will be known

511
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Speaker 4: about Shador from this organization, you will have such a

512
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Speaker 4: background on him of just not only personal environment, but

513
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Speaker 4: then literally the guy who was his offensive coordinator. We're

514
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Speaker 4: going to have as good a read on him as

515
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Speaker 4: we could have on anybody in this draft. Now, if

516
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Speaker 4: it turns out that the Browns don't take Shador, that

517
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Speaker 4: they decide with all this information it's not for him,

518
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Speaker 4: you know, and then Tom Brady takes him, I think

519
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Speaker 4: that'll be fair to have a lot of people say,

520
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,679
Speaker 4: what the back man. Yes, that's also true that the

521
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Speaker 4: greats are not always the best talent evaluators, and I

522
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Speaker 4: think it is very fair. If we were to go

523
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Speaker 4: to another sport, basketball, I'm pretty sure Michael Jordan has

524
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 4: had more than his fair share of whiffs. Larry, even

525
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 4: Larry the Legend struggled with that. He was best when

526
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Speaker 4: he was coaching a very veteran team of Indiana Pacers.

527
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Speaker 4: I I think we will have all the information we

528
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Speaker 4: could need. There are a lot of people that absolutely

529
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Speaker 4: love cam Ward as well. And you heard where you

530
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Speaker 4: had melkyper there. If you if toughness, accuracy and decision

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Speaker 4: making are kind of the three traits that you list.

532
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Speaker 4: Are that that Shador's calling card. Sign me up, yep,

533
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 4: sign me up right now? That's that's that's the position.

534
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Speaker 4: And I'm pretty sure if we went back, you had

535
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Speaker 4: Tommy Reeson here. Yeah, and I Gotchinz. I talked to

536
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 4: him in the cafe the other day. Very nice guy. Yeah,

537
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 4: kind of a dry dry like a.

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Speaker 3: I think yeah, yeah, I think that's very fair.

539
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know when he spoke in his press,

540
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:21,719
Speaker 4: that's basically what those were the key things. So I

541
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 4: know people are I think there's a lot of fear, Well,

542
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Speaker 4: what if the quarterback's not the best.

543
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Speaker 3: Player available, But what if they are pigs? Exactly. People

544
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Speaker 3: are looking at it the wrong way, looking at it

545
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Speaker 3: the wrong way, folks.

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Speaker 2: You're looking at it from the perspective of, well, what

547
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Speaker 2: if we blow it, Let's just take what's safe. That's

548
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Speaker 2: not the NFL, and there is no safe way, There

549
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Speaker 2: is no safe What.

550
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Speaker 3: Do you want to be? What do you want to be?

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Speaker 4: What do you want to be if you're a fan base.

552
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,679
Speaker 4: And by the way, this is probably a lot of

553
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Speaker 4: fun for a while that wants to go ten and seven,

554
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Speaker 4: nine and eight every year and get bounced in the

555
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Speaker 4: first round playoffs. Maybe you win a playoff game.

556
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 2: But never go into the playoffs going let's go win it.

557
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 2: Never walk into the playoffs going we got a shot, correct?

558
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 3: Correct?

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Speaker 4: By the way, the guy just up the road here

560
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 4: was it? Eighteen straight winning seasons? They are one to

561
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Speaker 4: run him out of that town. Yeah, they do, because

562
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Speaker 4: we've run a playoff game more recently than they have. Yep,

563
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Speaker 4: you go back to the to the Marvin Lewis days

564
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Speaker 4: in Cincinnati, multiple AFC North titles, zero postseason wins. That's

565
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Speaker 4: with Andy Dalton so and Andy Dalton was in some

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Speaker 4: ways the reason they won, but also the reason that

567
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Speaker 4: they didn't win. Yep, until you get that, dude, I

568
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Speaker 4: think it is incumbent upon the organization, any organization in

569
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Speaker 4: the NFL, And really it's wild. There aren't that many

570
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Speaker 4: teams in this position. Arizona, no, Atlanto, going alphabetically, Baltimore, no, Buffalo,

571
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Speaker 4: no Carolina, no, Chicago, no, Cincinnati no US Yes, Dallas note,

572
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Speaker 4: Denver no, Detroit no, Green Bay no, Houston, no, Indianapolis.

573
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Speaker 4: I'll say yes, Jacksonville no, Kansas City No. So that's

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Speaker 4: so far. We've got two two Raiders, yes, Chargers no

575
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Speaker 4: Rams No, although they probably have think about succession planning,

576
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Speaker 4: but that's different. Miami No, they need to get a

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Speaker 4: real backup. Vikings have JJ McCarthy. So I wouldn't say

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Speaker 4: that they would be a yes. New England's and no.

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Speaker 4: New Orleans is a yes. Giants is a yes, Jets

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Speaker 4: is a yes. Eagles no, Steelers is a yes. Niners no.

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Speaker 3: Seattle. There they're what you just described. They're perpetually what

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Speaker 3: you'll subscribe.

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Speaker 4: No is Tampa, but yeah, I mean i'd put question

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Speaker 4: marks on both of those.

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Speaker 3: Tennessee yes, Washington no.

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Speaker 4: So you have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,

587
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 4: eight out of thirty two teams. Yep, those eight teams

588
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 4: should have the sole purpose of their football operation should

589
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Speaker 4: be to take us off of this eight thirty two lists.

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Speaker 3: That's the job, that's it.

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Speaker 4: And until we are off of this list, nothing matters.

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Speaker 4: And you could maybe say Seattle Tampa could ultimately be

593
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Speaker 4: in that group. The Rams will at some point be

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Speaker 4: in that group, but that's gonna change. You're gonna people

595
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 4: come in, people go, and some of these teams that

596
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Speaker 4: you know fully believe in a few years perhaps you're like, no,

597
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 4: we don't believe in this guy anymore, and now you're

598
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 4: in that list. But you've got to try to get

599
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 4: yourself off that list. That has to be the overarching

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Speaker 4: and that is why, by the way, the Browns did

601
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Speaker 4: make the trade that they made a few years ago.

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Speaker 4: It has not worked out the way that anybody would

603
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Speaker 4: have hoped or expected, but that's why you did it,

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Speaker 4: because until you get off that list, you are not

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Speaker 4: a serious operation or a serious threat. I would say,

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Speaker 4: to win a Super Bowl doesn't matter how good your

607
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Speaker 4: defense is. By the way, our skill position needs upgrading

608
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 4: as well, but it doesn't matter how good any of

609
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Speaker 4: that stuff is until you have that guy.

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Speaker 3: Yep. And I think that's where we're at.

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Speaker 4: And I think it's gonna be a long, long three months, folks.

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Speaker 4: It's three months. I'm pretty sure the draft starts, if

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Speaker 4: I'm not mistaken. Three months from tonight.

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Speaker 3: Is it really?

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 3: Like April?

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Speaker 5: Is it? No? It's like twenty four, twenty six.

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Speaker 4: So it could be twelve weeks from today, twelve weeks

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Speaker 4: from today, something like that. Because you got January's thirty

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Speaker 4: one days. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because you got to be

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Speaker 4: that Thursday Friday. Yeah yeah, twelve weeks. Yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 4: That's where you stand. Those are your hots, Ashby, That's

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Speaker 4: what I want, real, yeah, what I do?

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Speaker 9: Sitting there in the stands usually for the live exposure.

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Speaker 8: really just focused on a handful of guys, and they

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Speaker 8: may be players that you didn't get a chance to

657
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Speaker 8: go out and see live during the fall.

658
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Speaker 3: They may be at priority positions.

659
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Speaker 8: They may be guys that are from a small school

660
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Speaker 8: that you want to see them against the.

661
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Speaker 3: High level of competition.

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Speaker 8: So each practice I'll go go into with maybe five

663
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Speaker 8: or six guys that I really specifically want to focus

664
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Speaker 8: on and really watch them, you know, throughout the day

665
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Speaker 8: before going over the film in the evening.

666
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Speaker 9: How important is it to see, for example, you mentioned

667
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Speaker 9: a small school guy against maybe an SEC guy or

668
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Speaker 9: a big ten guy, to see when the level of

669
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Speaker 9: competition goes up, how they can do in these one

670
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Speaker 9: on one fills.

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Speaker 3: It's very part.

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Speaker 8: It's a it's a big piece of it, especially for

673
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Speaker 8: small school guys who are productive, maybe they didn't play

674
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Speaker 8: NFL caliber talent. You're also able to kind of calibrate

675
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Speaker 8: what we call their physical tools, you know, against a

676
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Speaker 8: higher level of competition, and it just gives you a

677
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 8: little bit more confidence in the eval that they can

678
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Speaker 8: make the translation from a smaller school to competition at

679
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Speaker 8: the NFL.

680
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Speaker 9: R And you're not the only one here obviously, Glenn

681
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 9: is here, Kat is here, Kevin is here, Jock is here,

682
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Speaker 9: Bubba is here, whole Brown's contingent down here. And the

683
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Speaker 9: players realize, I think they do that this entire week

684
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Speaker 9: is kind of a job interview. They might be walking

685
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Speaker 9: down the street, they might be getting coffee and someone's

686
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Speaker 9: hanging behind them. How do I interact with the barista?

687
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Speaker 9: How how do I talk to fans who may want

688
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Speaker 9: an autograph on the street. How much of that is

689
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Speaker 9: part of your evaluation, both overtly or maybe even covertly.

690
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Speaker 3: Now it is a big part.

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Speaker 8: And we're fortunate to have Jockey as a defensive coordinator

692
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Speaker 8: on one team and Bubba as the head coach on

693
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Speaker 8: the other team, because you know, we get to see

694
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Speaker 8: the on field stuff. We get to see them during

695
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Speaker 8: the interview process. But you know, those are individuals that

696
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Speaker 8: to get to see how they prepare in the meeting room,

697
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Speaker 8: how they interact with their teammates, how they treat you know,

698
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 8: logistics and support staff people when they don't think anybody

699
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 8: is watching, and to have that insight is incredibly valuable.

700
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Speaker 8: You know, we have a feel for these guys into

701
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Speaker 8: this process just because of what we hear from the schools,

702
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Speaker 8: but it's nice to see them interact in a professional

703
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Speaker 8: environment to really project how they'll be in your building.

704
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Speaker 9: How valuable is specifically the coaching intelligence, like for example,

705
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Speaker 9: Bubba as a head coach, Jacques as a DC, Jordan

706
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Speaker 9: Thomas here as well. Obviously he's moving on to another job,

707
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Speaker 9: but you have your guys actually working with the players

708
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Speaker 9: every day.

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Speaker 5: It's excellent for us.

710
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Speaker 8: We encourage our guys to coach these All Star games

711
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 8: as much as they can. It's great professional development for

712
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 8: our coaches. But it also does give us a fair

713
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Speaker 8: amount of intel, whether it's at the East West Shrine game,

714
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Speaker 8: whether it's at the Senior Bowl like we're you know,

715
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Speaker 8: like we're here this week, because you do get a

716
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Speaker 8: view and a perspective on these guys that you otherwise

717
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Speaker 8: would not have.

718
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Speaker 9: When you look at let's let's just say quarterbacks. I

719
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 9: asked Kevin this before time. You re spoke about it

720
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Speaker 9: last week on the podium as well. What does Andrew

721
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 9: Berry look for in a quarterback? Maybe the two most

722
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Speaker 9: important things in your evaluation?

723
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think the thing is just high level. It's

724
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Speaker 8: about if the player can get you to first and right.

725
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 8: Quarterbacks make their money in third down, got to have

726
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Speaker 8: it two minute red zone situations and can they get

727
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Speaker 8: you to first and tent And the way that you know,

728
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Speaker 8: let's say Peyton Manning used to do that is a

729
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Speaker 8: lot different than maybe how Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson

730
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Speaker 8: does it. And so for me, there's not a particular

731
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Speaker 8: like archetype or style of player. But one thing that

732
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Speaker 8: is really important the quarterback decision. Quarterback position is decision making.

733
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Speaker 8: Like that's a player who's gonna make fifty sixty, sometimes

734
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 8: seventy decisions a game, you know that aren't necessarily all

735
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Speaker 8: just pass plays, and they've got to be a sound

736
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Speaker 8: decision maker.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 8: Obviously we have a you know, we have a bias

739
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Speaker 8: towards guys who are accurate, who are naturally accurate with

740
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Speaker 8: the football, you know. But outside those two things, whether

741
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,919
Speaker 8: they're runners, whether they're pocket guys, you know, that type

742
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 8: of thing, that doesn't matter as much as long as

743
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Speaker 8: they can consistently get the team to first intent.

744
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 9: When you're down there on the field, you can see

745
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 9: the way the ball comes out of a quarterback's hand.

746
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Speaker 3: Here you can see how much juice he's truly.

747
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Speaker 9: Got, but he's working with receivers that he hasn't really

748
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Speaker 9: thrown with. So you're looking for accurate But is it

749
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 9: a difficult is it? Do you have to take it

750
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Speaker 9: with a grain of salt because maybe they're not on

751
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Speaker 9: the same page.

752
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Speaker 5: It's a great question, Andrew.

753
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Speaker 8: So from my perspective coming into this, you have the

754
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Speaker 8: whole fall really multiple years of exposure, so that piece

755
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 8: is maybe a little bit less of a concern in

756
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 8: this setting, this live exposure. If you don't see a

757
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,439
Speaker 8: quarterback in person, then seeing how the ball does jump

758
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 8: off their hand and their arm strength is a little

759
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 8: bit of a better assessment live. And then really just

760
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 8: how they learn, teach, and and you know, kind of

761
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 8: ingest information with a new system. That's a little bit

762
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Speaker 8: more important than this assessing than them hitting every throat.

763
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 9: Years ago or actually four years. I've always heard who's

764
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Speaker 9: the alpha, Like in the quarterback room, you get you

765
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Speaker 9: get Josh Allen down here, Daniel Jones down here, with

766
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Speaker 9: Justin Herbert down here, all these great quarterbacks. Baker was

767
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 9: down here at eighteen. Who's the alpha? Is that important too?

768
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Speaker 8: I'd say leadership in general is important, But I think

769
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Speaker 8: perhaps how people throw the term around alpha, they usually

770
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Speaker 8: just mean someone who's loud. Leadership comes in many different forms,

771
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Speaker 8: And whether you know you're you're an influencer like Justin Herbert,

772
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Speaker 8: or whether you're fired up like you know Josh Allen

773
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Speaker 8: or Patrick Mahomes, as long as you get people to

774
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Speaker 8: follow you, it doesn't matter the way that they do it.

775
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 3: Hand size, what do you got?

776
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Speaker 8: Hand size important to you? I'd say this hand size

777
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 8: is not important to us. It's really more do they

778
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 8: protect the football? Like I don't care if a guy

779
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 8: has big hands if they fumble the ball all the time,

780
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Speaker 8: just like I don't care if a guy has small

781
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 8: hands if they protect it all the time. So I think,

782
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 8: at least from my perspective, that gets overblown.

783
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 9: Jalen Milroe City is a Ravens fan.

784
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 3: Does that bother you?

785
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 8: Does not bother me. We all have our childhood affinities.

786
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 8: I was a Cowboys fan growing up. I'm sure he'll

787
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 8: be the biggest fan of whatever team takes him in

788
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 8: the spring, which is obviously the right answer.

789
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Speaker 9: And along those lines, obviously, Tommy has spoken openly about

790
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 9: how rewarding twenty twenty three was with him and Jalen

791
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 9: of the journey they went on in in Tuscaloose. So

792
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 9: you have some insight obviously on cam Ward as well.

793
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 9: Glenn Cook knows everyone at Miami. How much do you

794
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 9: lean on those people, Pat shechrmer, Yeah, obviously Kevin worked

795
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 9: with him, is is in Colorado? How valuable are those assets?

796
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 3: It is.

797
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 8: We leverage every part of our network, and not just

798
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 8: with the quarterbacks, but for any prospect and quite honestly,

799
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 8: for any draft class that we've had. We've tried to

800
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 8: leverage our relationships within our building to make sure we

801
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,439
Speaker 8: have as much insight on these individuals as people before

802
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 8: we bring them in.

803
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 9: Okay, and finally Kevin. I asked Kevin what I should

804
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 9: ask you? He said, ask Andrew about the time you

805
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 9: guys first met here in Mobile And I said, oh,

806
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 9: it must be like, you know, every other coach down

807
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 9: here trying to get a job was in a bar.

808
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 8: It's like, no, clearly it was not in a bar,

809
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 8: So tell the story. Yeah, so it was. I think

810
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 8: it was twenty ten. It was outside of the battlehouse.

811
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Speaker 8: You know, I was a scouting assistant. He was like

812
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 8: a QC coach and it was actually Leslie Frazier who

813
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 8: introduced the two of us and figured that we would

814
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 8: get along. I don't think either of us anticipated that

815
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 8: ten years later that we would be working together as

816
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 8: head coach in GM. But you know, Leslie probably had

817
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 8: the foresight. So it's a it's a pretty cool story.

818
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 9: Was it a quick handshake? Did you get coffee?

819
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 3: It was?

820
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 8: It was more of just kind of like the casual

821
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 8: like greet But uh, you know we I don't think

822
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 8: either of us would have guessed that the relationship would

823
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Speaker 8: be as strong as it is at this point.

824
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 3: Man, here we are.

825
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Speaker 9: The next step, last thing after Mobile. Next step for

826
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Speaker 9: you is.

827
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Speaker 8: Yeah, so the next step we'll actually start our draft

828
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Speaker 8: meetings next Wednesday. So uh, we'll get to the end

829
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Speaker 8: of the week, have maybe a day or two to

830
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 8: catch our breath, you know, get organized, and then you know,

831
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 8: really next Wednesday we'll start, you know, grinding through you know,

832
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 8: all the players that we have as draftable and all

833
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 8: the players that are going through the combine and and

834
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 8: really put together our first your real preliminary board.

835
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 9: Night the draft is Jim Naggie said, starts in Mobile.

836
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 9: Enjoy your oysters and barbecue and say it travels We'll

837
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 9: see you down the road.

838
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 3: Appreciate it.

839
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 9: Andrew, all right, Andrew Barry everybody.

840
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Speaker 5: All right, there you go, ab As Senior Bowl.

841
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Speaker 3: Mobile. Have you been to Mobile? No? Been through Birmingham, Tuscaloosa,

842
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Speaker 3: not Mobile.

843
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 4: To my knowledge, Gibe has been there. It's been he

844
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,919
Speaker 4: did a month one night in Mobile.

845
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Speaker 3: Little GM A C Bowl. You g Memphis, Oh baby,

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Speaker 3: I think they're I think they're the originators of Marti

847
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Speaker 3: Gras though I want to say mobile parade.

848
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Speaker 5: They've got a whole big set up here, Marty Grass style.

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Speaker 2: I think I could be right. I say it relatively confidently.

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Speaker 2: Sure that maybe I heard that once.

851
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Speaker 5: I think we played the the twenty seventh or something.

852
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 5: It was like two days after Christmas. Yeah, we were

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Speaker 5: not at the Marty Grass point yet and it was

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Speaker 5: not a pleasurable experience. Not great, No, not great, No,

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Speaker 3: Greg would have been the year before.

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00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 4: Carolina DC in seventeen, Arizona head coach in eighteen, Brown's

875
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 4: d C in nineteen, Carolina head coach and DC in

876
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 4: Toll interim, then yep, twenty Niners DC in twenty three,

877
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 4: and now he will be the DC he was twelve

878
00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 4: games he was the interim head coach of the of

879
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:00,040
Speaker 4: the pan.

880
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 3: So nineteen's Freddy.

881
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 2: The Raiders will retain Patrick Graham as their defensive coordinator.

882
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 3: Very good job, bitt of them. I guess.

883
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 2: Matt Stafford plans to return and play in twenty twenty five,

884
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: though his future of the Rams is quote up in

885
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 2: the air and a deal likely needs to be worked out.

886
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 2: Per Ian Rapaport, I got news for you. It's gonna

887
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 2: get worked out. It was going to be just fine.

888
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,439
Speaker 2: They don't have anywhere else to go well with him,

889
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 2: they don't have any other quarterback to go with.

890
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 3: They picking the draft, no, and they for the playoffs. Yeah,

891
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 3: so no, Matt Stafford will be back. I would think so. Yeah.

892
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 3: You know, NBC, you know he's into these cards or whatever.

893
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 2: I think I told you this. He's like selling his

894
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 2: cards now online. He's made pretty.

895
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:45,720
Speaker 3: Good money doing it. Okay.

896
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 2: He found a Stafford card in the back of a

897
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 2: binder that was like some sort of a numbered hometown something.

898
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:54,879
Speaker 2: It's like a thousand dollars card.

899
00:41:55,239 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 3: What Yeah he sold it? Wow? Yeah, wild vacation son,

900
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,240
Speaker 3: I go, where's my cut? I'm sure I bought it. Yeah.

901
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 2: Also, there's like a sixty three percent chance he stole

902
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 2: it from one of his two brothers. It's in play

903
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 2: that is in play boots. He was up there with him,

904
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 2: and he was like, Dad, I'm trading cards with with paid.

905
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 2: I'm like, I wouldn't recommend that if I were you.

906
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, it's good. It's good. Uh huh.

907
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, that's the way that's gonna go. The Eagles

908
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 2: have opened their practice window for defensive end Brandon Graham,

909
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 2: allowing him to practice the team before the Super Bowl.

910
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:38,720
Speaker 2: Per Ian Rapaport, Bill Belichick suggests that the Lombardi Trophy

911
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 2: should be renamed the Brady Trophy. He's trying to mend offenses,

912
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 2: is what he's going for. This was on the Let's

913
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 2: Go podcast, which is Tom's podcast, right that Jim Gray

914
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 2: does Jim Gray, Yeah, So here is here is that audio.

915
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,240
Speaker 10: Players win games. You can't win games without good players.

916
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 10: I don't care who the coach is, it's impossible. You

917
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 10: can't win without good players. You know, I found out

918
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 10: when I had Taylor and Banks, Harry Carson, Pepper, Johnson,

919
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 10: all those guys are the giants, and same thing, you

920
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 10: know when we got good at Cleveland and then at

921
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 10: New England. I mean it's you know, it's Brady, it's McGinnis,

922
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 10: it's very Bowl. It's those are guys that won the

923
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 10: games man. I didn't make any tackles. I didn't make

924
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 10: any kicks. That was Vinetary that made that kick in

925
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 10: four inches of snow. You gotta have good players.

926
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 3: They don't name it the Star Trophy, it's named Littlembardi Trophy.

927
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 3: Maybe they should name it the Brady Trophy. He won

928
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 3: seven of them. He's try to make think big things right.

929
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 3: Good for him.

930
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I still I still find it hard to believe

931
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 4: that he's gonna coach in college. It's still hard for

932
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 4: me to get my head around.

933
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 3: It's funny. I was.

934
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 2: I talked about him a little bit to this morning,

935
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 2: had Paul fine Baman and we were talking about it.

936
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 3: Everything that I mean, this kind of en So he

937
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 3: had a meeting.

938
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 2: Last week with a one of the top quarterbacks in

939
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six.

940
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 3: So he took a photo.

941
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 2: In the background. Now he's at North Carolina, which is

942
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 2: an ACEC school. They take a picture with the kid

943
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 2: and in the background is actually Paul Finebaum on television

944
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 2: on the SEC network.

945
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 3: That's one of those.

946
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 2: Little things that if you were Ohio State and you're

947
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 2: taking a picture with the prospect, you would not have

948
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 2: the SEC network on in the background.

949
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 3: Of the photo, you'd make sure that there was you know,

950
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 3: buck guys yeah or something something not that.

951
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 2: So sure enough, Chip Kelly Offics of coordinad Ohio State

952
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,919
Speaker 2: met with the same quarterback out of Nashville this week

953
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 2: and took a picture. And as you can imagine, there

954
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 2: is no Paul fine bomb behind his photograph. And it

955
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 2: kind of just speaks to just how when you listen

956
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 2: to him talk just how it's a little bit like

957
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 2: urban going to the NFL, like you just have no

958
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 2: idea what's been going on here, and the idea that

959
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 2: he thought that him and Lombardi we're going to run

960
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 2: it like a feeder system of the NFL. Quite literally,

961
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 2: seventy five big time college football programs do that. That's

962
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 2: what they all do. Everybody in Power five does that,

963
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 2: are now Power four, They all do it. They're all

964
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 2: doing the same thing. I mean, he was like, Oh,

965
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 2: we're gonna have a pecific dorms that we're gonna have

966
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 2: a specific training tale and nutrition.

967
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 3: They all do that.

968
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've been doing that for twenty years and they

969
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 2: really thought that they were like and even like folks

970
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 2: who normally talk about the NFL, like I heard Simmons

971
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 2: talk about this on his podcast Who Took the Job,

972
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 2: Like this is really I think that was really smart,

973
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 2: like treat college players like NFL players. I'm like, dude,

974
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 2: for twenty years, I mean, Florida State in one when

975
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 2: I got there was doing that separate training table, separate nutrition.

976
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:40,439
Speaker 2: That's twenty some years ago. Yes, like so it's it's

977
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 2: been done. Is the reality of it. By the way,

978
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 2: go ahead.

979
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 4: I don't know if you this has come across yours

980
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 4: or if you guys have seen this, but there's some

981
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 4: not great NFL news.

982
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 3: I haven't go ahead.

983
00:45:55,080 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 4: This says from the Baltimore Banner, all right, which is

984
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 4: a media company, that they have just posted this and

985
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 4: it is making the rounds all over NFL Twitter that

986
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 4: raven Are we CAZy?

987
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 3: Are we sure?

988
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 5: I know, I just haven't seen any of the big

989
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 5: dogs roll with it yet.

990
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 4: Wait, that's fine, locking for loving for a retreatated it.

991
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 4: That's how I saw it just now from twenty two

992
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 4: minutes ago.

993
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 3: Okay, we can wait. In the old days, the X

994
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 3: like let's go yeah, or the check the check was

995
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 3: let's go yeah.

996
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 5: I mean, I can't tell you from Jeremy Foller at

997
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 5: ESPN the Cowboys are considering former Browns OC Ken Dorsey

998
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 5: for their OC position interview. To me, the term logistics

999
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 5: being discussed with Schottenheimer.

1000
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:54,760
Speaker 3: Do they have any overlap anywhere the g man is looking.

1001
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 2: Probably, Brian's been all over the place. Ken's been all

1002
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 2: over the place, both as a player and as a coach.

1003
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's somewhere along the line that they cross paths.

1004
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 3: A couple other here.

1005
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 2: Real quickly, cam Newton says he wouldn't trade his NFL

1006
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 2: MVP for a Super Bowl ring.

1007
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 3: That is nuts to me to say that out loud.

1008
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 3: His reasoning for it was the he did his job

1009
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 3: at the highest level you could do it. That's the

1010
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 3: way that he described it, And that's why would you rather.

1011
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 4: Why would you have rather maybe done his job at

1012
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 4: the highest level he could do it, not have won

1013
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 4: the MVP that year, even though he's the best he

1014
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 4: could be in this.

1015
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 3: Team won the Super Bowl? I guess not.

1016
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 4: I mean, I know Lamar Jackson would, without questions say

1017
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 4: he would trade his two MVPs.

1018
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 3: For Super Bowl Yeah, right now. Absolutely, that is a

1019
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 3: weird thing to say.

1020
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 2: It is, but it's also something that you say when

1021
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 2: you're trying to find footing in a business that's tricky

1022
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 2: in terms of being a pundit. Like right now he's

1023
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 2: on the first take games from sign to time with

1024
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 2: Steven A like he's kind of out there and that

1025
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 2: I think sometimes you say things to get attention so

1026
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 2: that people are more aware that you're doing it.

1027
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 3: As if his hats wouldn't be enough. Those are choices.

1028
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 3: He's doing it quite a bit, Toget. He's got a

1029
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 3: lot of tension. He's made a bunch of controversial comments.

1030
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 2: Yes, the commanders are planning to see some small adjustments

1031
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 2: to their uniforms per Bram Weinstein, our buddy.

1032
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder what the just where we used a

1033
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 3: third grade where which they used to wear. That's it.

1034
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 3: If you can't have the the Indian chief on the

1035
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 3: on the side of the helmet, then go with a

1036
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 3: run in W or an R and away you go. Well,

1037
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 3: I thought it was for my father, So okay, grain

1038
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 3: of salt has been taken.

1039
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 4: Thank you that the family of the black Blackfoot.

1040
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 2: Blackie Wetzel is the Blackfeet Indian who signed the original

1041
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 2: brought back.

1042
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 3: Well they want it.

1043
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 2: They wanted it from Snyder, so that he's a Montana guy.

1044
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 2: I knew his son or nephew, Donnie, and they wanted

1045
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 2: to bring it back so that they could use it

1046
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 2: because it's his original art and he gave it to

1047
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 2: I don't think it. I think it's Marshall before John

1048
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 2: Jack Kent Cook on the Redskins. I can't remember. I

1049
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 2: don't know that exactly the timeline of it all. But

1050
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 2: they wanted to use it back in Montana and use

1051
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 2: it and bring it back, and there's a great deal

1052
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 2: of pride in the Blackfeet community for this image. It's

1053
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 2: a regal chief. It was never the image. It was

1054
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 2: never the image that was the problem. It was the

1055
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 2: name that was always the problem. So I don't know

1056
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 2: if they could ever do that again. I think they

1057
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 2: could if they went Washington football team and just had

1058
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 2: that beyond the helmet. I think you could do that

1059
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 2: because it's pretty damn dignified and it's everything that you'd want.

1060
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 2: I mean, you think about the Blackhawks and Florida State

1061
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 2: Seminoles and all of that. The one thing that folks

1062
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 2: want in that the Native American people want is they

1063
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 2: want it done with respect and they want it in

1064
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 2: a way of honor. In homage, and I think that's

1065
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 2: that would do that. If they could do that, if

1066
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 2: they go back to Washington football team and then do that,

1067
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 2: I think you got a chance.

1068
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 4: So the Native American Guardians Association sue the Washington Commanders

1069
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 4: in September of twenty three to restore the team's name

1070
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 4: and logo to the Redskins. The laws who claims the

1071
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,720
Speaker 4: Commanders and of the Defendancy famed an Aga and suppress

1072
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 4: Native American history. They're seeking significant damages and see the

1073
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 4: table to share that and the family in December, they're

1074
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 4: saying that the logo on the helmet is an actual person,

1075
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 4: Chief White Calf, and the family wants it also. They

1076
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 4: want it back, the logo. They want the logo back

1077
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 4: on the helmets. They also want the logo for themselves.

1078
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll see Dave Spanaro Eagles, how did they

1079
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 2: get here? Trying to win their second Super Bowl in

1080
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 2: a decade. He will join us coming up nextualistically The

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Speaker 2: He is the Eagles insider Dave Sponaro joining us there. Dave,

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Speaker 2: thank you so much for taking the time back in

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. Are the Birds You've been around for

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Speaker 2: a while over there, buddy, This run of excellence that

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Speaker 2: they've been a part of going a decade or so,

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Speaker 2: and it just feels like they getting it bad at

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Speaker 2: this thing a lot. What have been some of the

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Speaker 2: things that that you've seen firsthand that other organizations could

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Speaker 2: try to mimic in terms of the sustained success that

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Speaker 2: that organization has had.

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean from a player standpoint, they have a

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Speaker 6: really good plan for succession. You know, this team last

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Speaker 6: year lost after the season, lost Jason Kelcey Fletcher Cox,

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Speaker 6: and a lot of people were like, well, well, how

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Speaker 6: do you move on without those two guys two of

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Speaker 6: the best leaders and players, And but Eagles have a

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Speaker 6: succession plan and they had drafted Cam Jurgens a couple

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Speaker 6: of years prior they drafted Jalen Carter last season. They

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Speaker 6: felt that those two players were ready to step into

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Speaker 6: more expanded roles. And here we are. You know, Jalen

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Speaker 6: Carter has been a dominant player defensive tackle, Cam Jurgens

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Speaker 6: a Pro Bowl center. Being in concert with your personnel

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Speaker 6: department when you're acquiring personnel the way that Howie Roseman

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Speaker 6: kind of identified some things and for example, Zach Bond

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Speaker 6: and saw some traits that might make him a player

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Speaker 6: legles to be interested in. And then having the defensive

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Speaker 6: coordinator Vic Fangio, Goo, Hey, you know, I can't use

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Speaker 6: this guy men. I might change his position, but I

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Speaker 6: just think I can use him at boom. Here is

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Speaker 6: Zach Bond as a you know, an All Pro defensive

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Speaker 6: Player of the Year candidate. Kind of not sticking to

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Speaker 6: the same script. You know, the Eagles never really invested

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Speaker 6: in running backs and then whoa sae Kwon Barkley's on

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Speaker 6: the market. Well, the market seems that the salary caps

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Speaker 6: gone way up. We're gonna go out of our boundary

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Speaker 6: a little bit and signed Saquon Barkley. He could be

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Speaker 6: a difference maker for the offense, and what does he

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Speaker 6: do two thousand yard rushing? You know, identify a coach.

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Speaker 6: Jeffrey Lourie, every single one of his coaches has been

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Speaker 6: in the playoffs, every single one from Andy Reid on

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Speaker 6: from I'm sorry, from Ray Rhodes on Ray Roads, Andy Reid, Chip, Kelly,

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Speaker 6: Doug Peterson, Nick s Heeranny. So, I mean that's some examples.

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Speaker 6: I mean I that the Eagles have just and by

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Speaker 6: the way, in the Andy Reid years, this team went

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Speaker 6: to the NFC Championship Game five times in eight seasons.

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Speaker 6: One Super Bowl did not win, frustrating time for Eagles fans,

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Speaker 6: but still to get to that final four is quite

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Speaker 6: an accomplishment. So Jeffrey Lourie has just been an owner

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Speaker 6: who has a really good eye for identifying the right

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Speaker 6: person to lead the organization. And then you know stability

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Speaker 6: at general manager with Howie and he's been one of

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Speaker 6: the best here and that's why the Eagles are where

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Speaker 6: they are.

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Speaker 4: You talked about Saquon Barkley and what he has meant

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Speaker 4: to this team to be able to hop over in

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Speaker 4: Division twenty two and eighty three scrimmage yards fifteen touchdowns

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Speaker 4: and really kind of changed their identity, right, I mean,

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Speaker 4: and that probably took some adjustment. I know at times

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Speaker 4: AJ Brown wasn't as happy. DeVante Smith's numbers were down

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Speaker 4: a little bit. How have they been able to kind

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Speaker 4: of realize we're here to win and get over kind

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Speaker 4: of maybe some of those personal things and row in

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Speaker 4: the same direction.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think well, both of them have gotten their

1154
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Speaker 6: contracts and that helps, right, And they've got a taste.

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Speaker 6: They've got a taste of it. You know, since DeVante

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Speaker 6: been here, they've made the playoffs, since they has been

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Speaker 6: here three seasons, two super Bowls, A nice little fat

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Speaker 6: four year contract or whatever, three year contract, it really helps.

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Speaker 6: And the Eagles the the kind of the demarcation point

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Speaker 6: of the season. Eagles start out two and two, they're

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Speaker 6: minus six in the giveaway in the turnover margin. And

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Speaker 6: by the way, the other kind of foundational element to

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Speaker 6: the Eagles from a football standpoint is win the line

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Speaker 6: of scrimmage and that is something that Andy Reid taught

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Speaker 6: this organization and they have not deviated from that at all.

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Speaker 6: Scoring as it is on draft weekend, load up on

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Speaker 6: your offensive line, load up on your d line. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I mean, so after four games the Eagles were two

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Speaker 6: and two minus six and turnovers, and came out after

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Speaker 6: the bye week ugly win against Cleveland, But that sparked

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Speaker 6: things and they promoted one of their rookies, Cooper de Jean,

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Speaker 6: into the starting lineup at cornerback along with Quinnion Mitchell,

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Speaker 6: Cooper taking over the nickel role, and they just got

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Speaker 6: better and better, and it helped a little bit, you know,

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Speaker 6: playing Cleveland, whose offense was not good with Deshaun Watson

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Speaker 6: and then those Giants with Daniel Jones gave the Eagles

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Speaker 6: defense time to figure itself out, and so they really

1178
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Speaker 6: took the mantle defensively and then offensively, don't turn the

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Speaker 6: ball over, score touchdowns in the red zone, lean on

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Speaker 6: the running game. I think every player in the league

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Speaker 6: ultimately wants to win, and those players understood that it

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Speaker 6: may be nice to get some catches and some scores

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Speaker 6: and some numbers, but it sure feels better to win.

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Speaker 3: Dave, this one we've seen. This one.

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Speaker 2: We just saw a couple of years ago, these two

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Speaker 2: teams playing in the Super Bowl. Jalen Hurts second trip back.

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Speaker 2: What have you seen from him as his career as

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Speaker 2: progressed and what does Philly need from him a week

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Speaker 2: from Sunday to cash in at the ultimate prize.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, another selfless player who you know the Eagles threw

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Speaker 6: the ball a lot more back in twenty two and

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Speaker 6: that Super Bowl performance in fifty seven was great from

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Speaker 6: Jalen Hurts. But he did lose a fumble off his

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Speaker 6: foot that they're ye Chiefs return for touchdown and they

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Speaker 6: scored end of the first half field goal instead of

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Speaker 6: a touchdown, early in the second half field goal instead

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Speaker 6: of a touchdown, and then just couldn't put points on

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Speaker 6: the board until the very end of the game. So

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Speaker 6: he's more mature guy. He's definitely had excellent knock on

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Speaker 6: wood ball security this season. After that slow start, he's

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Speaker 6: been criticized a lot like this guy is just where

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Speaker 6: the numbers and you hear all the ratings and the

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Speaker 6: rankings of the quarterbacks and his name is not mentioned.

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Speaker 6: And yet the guy just wins games. And we saw

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Speaker 6: the very best of Jalen late in the regular season

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Speaker 6: against the Pittsburgh Steelers, and then the Eagles go to Washington,

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Speaker 6: he gets a concussion out for two and a half games,

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Speaker 6: comes back, slow start to the playoff against Green Bay

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Speaker 6: and the Rams, and then really turned it on against

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Speaker 6: the Commanders this past weekend. So you know, he's a

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Speaker 6: resilient guy. He can beat you in a lot of

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Speaker 6: different ways, and at the end of the day, it

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Speaker 6: is about winning. And I think what's interesting about a

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Speaker 6: guy like Jalen is the loss to the Chiefs and

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Speaker 6: the confetti moments where he stood and watched the Kansas

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Speaker 6: City Chiefs celebrate is his screensaver on his cell phone,

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Speaker 6: and that is kind of his motivation every day to

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Speaker 6: get back into winning. And we don't see emotion from

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Speaker 6: Jalen Hurts. He's really, you know, not a quote machine

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Speaker 6: in any way. I really feel like should the Eagles

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Speaker 6: win the Super Bowl, we will see an outpouring of

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Speaker 6: just incredibly bottled up happiness from Jalen because he his

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Speaker 6: whole thing is again in concert with what the Eagles believe.

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Speaker 6: I don't care. I just want to win games. So

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Speaker 6: if it doesn't satisfy your fantasy football needs, which by

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Speaker 6: the way, it should because he gets a lot of

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Speaker 6: touchdowns on the ground, then who cares. So all he

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Speaker 6: wants to do is win, and he will need to

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Speaker 6: play a great game on Sunday, he will need to

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Speaker 6: play an air or free game. He will need to

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Speaker 6: be ready, as the Eagles will need to be ready

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Speaker 6: for everything and anything and anything that they can't even

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Speaker 6: think of. Because Andy Reid offensively, special team Steve Spagnolo defensively,

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Speaker 6: they will throw something that you have never even thought

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Speaker 6: of at the Philadelphia Eagles, whether that's a blitz, whether

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Speaker 6: that's a personnel usage, whether that's a Travis Kelcey catch

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Speaker 6: and pitch, whatever it is, trick play, the Chiefs will

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Speaker 6: bring it out and the Eagles must be prepared.

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Speaker 4: By the way you mentioned Jalen Hurts, I was just

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Speaker 4: looking at I don't know if he gets enough credit

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Speaker 4: for how good he has been in the postseason. Five

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Speaker 4: and three is the record he has not thrown so

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Speaker 4: eight playoff games. He has not thrown an interception since

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Speaker 4: his playoff debut back in twenty twenty one, and straight

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Speaker 4: games without an interception. He has one fumble lost in

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Speaker 4: those seven games. So three turnovers total in eight playoff

1247
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Speaker 4: games and seventeen combined touchdowns eight passing, nine rushing. I mean,

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Speaker 4: you'll talk about mistake free. Six of his eight playoff

1249
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Speaker 4: games in his career, he has not turned the football over.

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Speaker 4: He has done that. He is going to give them

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Speaker 4: an opportunity. One thing that he does and you mentioned

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Speaker 4: he runs those in it's because and people thought maybe

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Speaker 4: it was going to end with Kelsey going they start

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Speaker 4: first to nine every drive. Are you surprised that the

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Speaker 4: tush push has remained as unstoppable this year as it

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Speaker 4: had been before, and that really nobody.

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Speaker 3: Else can do it.

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Speaker 4: It is uniquely Philly's ability to do this that is

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Speaker 4: a game changer.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. I mean, first of all, when I remember when

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Speaker 6: they dropted Camp Jurgen's second round twenty twenty one, twenty

1262
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Speaker 6: twenty two, I went into the offensive line coaches up

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Speaker 6: in the line coach if you have to watch tape,

1264
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Speaker 6: and it was like watching Jason g and Cam Jurgens

1265
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Speaker 6: is good enough that he didn't play as a rookie

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Speaker 6: very much. He goes out and gets the starting job,

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Speaker 6: makes himself a starting right guard in year number two,

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Speaker 6: which is really hard to do, and read kind of

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Speaker 6: reinvented himself, played well last year, then moved back to

1270
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Speaker 6: his natural position and it's been really terrific Pro Bowl player,

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Speaker 6: So not surprised there. And then adding a freakishly sized

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Speaker 6: Makai Beckton, who is a right tackle for the most

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Speaker 6: part in New York with the Jets playing in the

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Speaker 6: right guard. I mean, Eagles are big upfront, and they're

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Speaker 6: they they love the the the challenge of being more

1276
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Speaker 6: physical than the defense. And Jalen's a really strong guy

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Speaker 6: with strong legs. He squad of six hundred pounds in college,

1278
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Speaker 6: and I mean, he's the beast. So I'm not surprised.

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Speaker 6: I think I think that the Kansas City will be

1280
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Speaker 6: difficult to do that against. They're very good inside, they're

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Speaker 6: very physical. So but but we'll see. I mean, look,

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Speaker 6: you're right and and and they start first and nine

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Speaker 6: and they have three downs to do it because they

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Speaker 6: go for it on fourth down. And I think in

1285
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Speaker 6: this game, you're gonna have to go four on fourth

1286
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 6: down a lot against against the Chemistry Chiefs and have success.

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Speaker 6: You cannot give Pat, you know, you got to put

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Speaker 6: you got to put two scores between yourself and Patrick

1289
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Speaker 6: Mahomes in the last two minutes of the game, or

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Speaker 6: you just can't breathe because if the guy, if he

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Speaker 6: gets the ball last, as they happened to two Super

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Speaker 6: Bowls ago, Patrick Mahomes does it and wins it, and

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Speaker 6: the Chiefs are seventeen straight wins in one possession games.

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Speaker 6: It is remarkable.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it truly is. And that's the best way I've

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Speaker 5: heard somebody put it.

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Speaker 2: Two scores between you and Mahomes with two minutes to go,

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Speaker 2: and then you feel like you're okay. That's kind of

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Speaker 2: where it's at, which is pretty ridiculous. Dave, How how

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Speaker 2: is Andy Reid? What is how is he? How does

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Speaker 2: the Eagles fans feel about Andy Reid?

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Speaker 6: Old story, old news, thankful, YadA, YadA, YadA, But you know,

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Speaker 6: I mean it's over, like he already broke the Eagles

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Speaker 6: fans hers once and so much credit to him. The

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Speaker 6: best coach, you know that we've seen in the modern day.

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Speaker 6: I know, Bill Belichick won all the Super Bowls, and

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Speaker 6: maybe there's arguments you made there for sure, but like

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Speaker 6: Andy did it with two different teams, didn't win here,

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Speaker 6: but didn't win the Super Bowl here, but fourteen very

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Speaker 6: very successful seasons and really took the Eagles a franchise

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Speaker 6: that was kind of going nowhere, zero super Bowl appearances,

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Speaker 6: and put the Eagles on the map. So since nineteen eighty,

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Speaker 6: you know, they hadn't been the Super Bowl. So Andy's

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Speaker 6: a great coach, but there's nothing I think. Look, I

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Speaker 6: think the Eagles fans are in agreement with much of America.

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Speaker 6: We're sick and tired of Andy Reid. We're sick and

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Speaker 6: tired of Travis Kelsey, We're sick and tired of every

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Speaker 6: commercial with Patrick Mahomes. Jealousy you might call it jealousy, sure,

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Speaker 6: but done with them. And so let's end the empire.

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Speaker 6: Let's don't complain about the referees. Nobody if you complained

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Speaker 6: about the referee lost the battle. Just go out and

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Speaker 6: beat them. Don't make mistakes, don't miss kicks, don't drop passes,

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Speaker 6: don't miss tackles, don't commit penalties, play your best game

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Speaker 6: and beat Kansas City. And that's what This is not

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Speaker 6: a vintage Chiefs team, but this is the Chiefs team

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Speaker 6: that it is so hard to beat the champion and

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Speaker 6: that is the task for the Philadelphia Eagles.

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Speaker 3: So that's it. Well, you just described it.

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Speaker 2: Let's play completely clean and then and then you go

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Speaker 2: that's that's kind of the recipe here, right in terms

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Speaker 2: of what done.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, they went from zero, they went from minus

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Speaker 6: six in turnover margin after four games to plus eleven

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Speaker 6: by the end of the season, and in the three

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Speaker 6: playoff games they're plus ten, zero giveaways and ten takeaways.

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Speaker 6: And so I mean you do that. If Eagles play

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Speaker 6: the way they played against Washington on Sunday, I I

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Speaker 6: just don't see anybody beating them. I mean, they were

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Speaker 6: terrific defensively, they took the ball away, offensively on special teams,

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Speaker 6: they made big kickoff returns on special teams. The offense,

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Speaker 6: you'll play one from screen image Saquon Barkley goes sixty yards.

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Speaker 6: They were deadly in the passing game, They had variety

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Speaker 6: in the in play calling. They were seven of seven

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Speaker 6: in the red zone. I mean they do that. You know.

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Speaker 6: It's the Lombardi Trophies coming to Philly.

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Speaker 3: Dave, thanks for your time, good luck.

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Speaker 2: On the big one, and obviously like you and everybody

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Speaker 2: else will be pulling for you because I think everyone's

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01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:25,919
Speaker 2: kind of in the same boat on this thing.

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Speaker 6: Thank you. I appreciate that. Thanks for having me on

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Speaker 6: and I really enjoyed it.

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Speaker 3: As always, Dave Dave.

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Speaker 2: Tyler Sullion of CBS Sports ranked every team's MVP during

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Speaker 2: the regular season. We are going to attempt to do

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Speaker 2: ours and see how they compare. The g man is

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Speaker 3: All right, you ready, Some of these I don't even

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Speaker 3: know if you don't have anybody. Some of these I'm

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Speaker 3: trying to do a cursory research.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no time. Bill's Allen. Bill's Allen Dolphins. So

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Speaker 4: we get then then you tell us what he said, GM.

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Speaker 3: Man Bill's they had James Cook.

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Speaker 2: That's stupid. List onto the next mail big is next,

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Speaker 2: next levels next, jeez, what are we doing?

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Speaker 3: If you're Darius Josh it's gonna be the MVP of

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Speaker 3: the league. You're not a serious person. What is what?

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Speaker 3: That's silly?

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01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 2: Now, I'm so I understand you can't all be quarterbacks,

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01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 2: but that one has to be quarterback.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna win MVP of the league. Dolphins, I went

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Speaker 3: eight chan, I'll say John new Smith devon a chan

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Speaker 3: yep chan Okay, uh pats cheez. I went Drake make

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Speaker 3: because Christian Gonzales Jets, Will McDonald, sure, Jamie and Sherwood

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01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 3: inside linebacker. Then you know you got a squad. He

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01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 3: had one hundred and fifty eight ten They didn't. The

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Speaker 3: Jets didn't have a single pro bowler. God, what a mess?

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Speaker 3: All right? Our division Baltimore yep, Burrow, Burrow, they had

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Speaker 3: Jamar Chase all right, Okay, Miles for us, Miles and

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Speaker 3: TJ yep Miles, Garrett, TJ. Watt more.

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Speaker 11: More on Miles It'll be interesting to monitor Garrett this

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01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 11: offseason as a potential trade candidate. No looking back on

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Speaker 11: the twenty twenty four season, pass rusher continues to be

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01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:19,679
Speaker 11: one of the best in the league. Named a first

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Speaker 11: team All Pro for the fourth time in the last

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01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:24,799
Speaker 11: five seasons, totaling fourteen sacks, twenty two tackles for a loss,

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Speaker 11: and three forced fumbles.

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Speaker 3: Jerry would have been number two. Little blurb they had

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01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 3: on Miles Pittsburgh we go TJ. Cam Hayward was Pittsburgh fair.

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01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 3: That's fine. Cam was great in a great year. This

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Speaker 3: year he was All Pro First.

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Speaker 2: Team AFC South Houston Texans, Nico.

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01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 3: Collins, Derek Stingley Junior.

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01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 11: Okay Colts, Jonathan Taylor, Zier Franklin an inside line.

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01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 3: They're inside linebacker, yep, Okay Jaguars, your boy. Who's your receiver?

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01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 3: Brian tom Us Yeah, et seven, Brian Thomas Junior. He

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Speaker 3: got it good? Yeah. Uh. Tennessee Simmons, Jeffrey Simmons, Harold Landry,

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01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:16,959
Speaker 3: Harold Landry, Harold Landry, get yourself a Harold Landry.

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01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 4: Oh man. We had somebody here a long time ago.

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Speaker 4: I was not a fan of Harold Landry's He turned

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01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:23,880
Speaker 4: out to actually have a pretty decent pro career.

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Speaker 3: Real quickly. Harold Landry L s U right, L s U. Guy,

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Speaker 3: that sounds right, yeah, Boston College. So Harold Landry had nine.

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01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 4: Confusing with who played at L s U Arkivius Mingo,

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Speaker 4: Harold Perkins.

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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe that's it.

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01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a Harold and then maybe we just put

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Speaker 2: Jarvis Landry with Harold Perkins and that got us Harold

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Speaker 2: Harold Landry.

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Speaker 3: So Harold Landry, I miss Jervis by the way, I

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Speaker 3: to love. So they had nobody. He had nine sacks.

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Speaker 4: Simmons had five eleven tackles for a loss.

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Speaker 5: Denver Sir Tam h Yes.

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Speaker 3: Ps two.

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Speaker 4: I made Bonix to me is their MVP? They answered

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01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 4: Tan before and he was first team All Pro.

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01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 3: It didn't matter. I'm just trying to do it. So

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01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:13,839
Speaker 3: it's not all quarterbacks. Uh, Kansas City h Chris Jones.

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01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 3: Probably that's what this is. Where they have homes, Okay,

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01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 3: so you're gonna have my homes in a year where

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Speaker 3: he was and not Allen and not.

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Speaker 4: Borough and not Borough Raiders, Uh Cross say Crosby or

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Speaker 4: Brock Bowers, Bowers Chargers Herbert uh Khalil Mack, Ladd Mconkie,

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Speaker 4: what no, for God's sakes, Dallas Cowboys, Ceed.

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Speaker 3: Lamb c d Lamb Yes, the g Men, Giant Scottish Hammer.

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Speaker 11: Myleik Neighbors another one of rookie LSU receivers.

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01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 3: Barkley and j Mack would.

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01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 4: Love Daniels, Jaden Daels and Washing Barkley and Philly right yeah, Jane.

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01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:08,200
Speaker 3: Daniels, Saquon and Jayden Daniels, Washington and Philly g.

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Speaker 11: Manh Saquon Yes, Jayden and Daniels Yes.

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01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 4: Bears Bess the Bears, Uh.

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01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 3: I don't know.

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01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 2: I mean they they kind of all underachieved over there

1448
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 2: is there somebody on defense that we're missing?

1449
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 4: Karen Johnson, Jalen Johnson, Jalen Johnson. Aren Johnson's on the Bills, Okay,

1450
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:35,679
Speaker 4: the Bears, Minnesota, Donald Jefferson, Sam Darnald Yep Okay, Green Bay,

1451
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 4: Jordan Love, Josh Jacobs, Xavier McKinney. I think you may

1452
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 4: have led the league in interceptions, Okay, Detroit. I mean

1453
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 4: it's either GoF or Gibbs or.

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01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 3: I would go.

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01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 2: I think I like Gibbs or Goth, but I like

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01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 2: Gibbs Jami or Gibbs, especially when when he went down

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01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 2: with the when the injury happened. Atlanta b Jehon, Yeah,

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01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:03,759
Speaker 2: b Jeon, Caroline, Bryce, It's gotta be Bryce, Cuba Hubbard,

1459
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 2: Okay Saints.

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01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:10,919
Speaker 3: Camara, Kamara, Bake.

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01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 4: Evans, it was Baker, Mayfield, Yep, Arizona, Arizona, McBride.

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01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:25,640
Speaker 3: Trey McBride finally scored a touchdown, Banky, Trey McBride, just

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01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 3: ramm Itt, Stafford or Jared Verse.

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01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 4: Stop it could be Stafford, Nakua, Kiren, Williams, Okay, Seattle, JSN.

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Speaker 3: Correct JSN. He came along, Yeah, and.

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Speaker 4: Then then they stopped throwing to him at the end

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Speaker 4: of the year, which is what helped you, didn't It

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Speaker 4: no very beneficial for Niners. Forty nine ers will give

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Speaker 4: it to uh.

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Speaker 3: Tom Rathman, Nick Bosa, Fred Warner, Fred Warner. All Right,

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Speaker 3: there you go. This is an unseerious list as soon

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Speaker 3: as you don't have Josh Allen it was. That was

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Speaker 3: our fir and that was our first first one first team.

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Speaker 2: Unserious, Come on, be better, Tyler. All right, the mail

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Speaker 4: Mason Wilhelm just received an offer from UNLV football.

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Speaker 3: How about that makes me feel That makes me feel old,

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Speaker 3: isn't he he'd been an official visit at Ohio State,

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Speaker 3: says he just received an offer there in one of

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Speaker 3: that's what that's how he was with Ohio's great he

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01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 9: Uh.

1509
01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 5: A comment first from Rob Zeleski yesterday. Nice to hear

1510
01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 5: the Mile High Browns Club get a shout out for Daily.

1511
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 5: Join them for a game in Denver a few years back.

1512
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 5: They had a great group, great tailgate apparently also do

1513
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:15,360
Speaker 5: the good work. So again, congrats to them. Yeah. Uh,

1514
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys saw this yesterday Kataba

1515
01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 5: j okay, it's my guy. You guys were discussing some

1516
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:27,639
Speaker 5: ice cream.

1517
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah yeah he.

1518
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:31,800
Speaker 5: Did recommend Toffs in Sandusky.

1519
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. I've had TOFs. Yeah. Oh yeah, it's good. It's great.

1520
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:38,240
Speaker 2: It's there's a lot of great ice cream out there.

1521
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:40,879
Speaker 2: There's a lot of great ice creams.

1522
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:43,880
Speaker 3: That's a good one. This is just a different level

1523
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:45,960
Speaker 3: of ice cream. Where As you.

1524
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 4: Got time and now I'm gonna get like, I'm gonna

1525
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 4: have to hope that it's there next Wednesday, because that's

1526
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 4: the next time I'll be able to go.

1527
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:56,519
Speaker 3: Maybe tomorrow I could go. Actually tomorrow after the show,

1528
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:58,439
Speaker 3: I could go. Yeah, I mean.

1529
01:15:58,360 --> 01:15:58,759
Speaker 1: It's.

1530
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:04,679
Speaker 3: It's a big mess, you know what I say.

1531
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 4: Sometimes though, like some people are like, oh man, if

1532
01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 4: something's so good and it's gone, you know, I wish

1533
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 4: I never even had. No, it's better to have have

1534
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 4: tasted greatness than to have never.

1535
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:17,280
Speaker 3: Had and lost or rather than never had it all. Yeah, yeah,

1536
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 3: I mean, I'll be chasing that taste for the rest

1537
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:21,000
Speaker 3: of my life.

1538
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 4: The good news is you'll be able to re produce

1539
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:28,840
Speaker 4: the mouthfeel and their other flavors. But you're right, that

1540
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 4: is my favorite dessert taste and I will be chasing

1541
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:34,639
Speaker 4: it forever. And there's been I've had other banana ice

1542
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:37,760
Speaker 4: creams and bananas and whatever. Yeah, it's you know what,

1543
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:41,639
Speaker 4: it's all, it's all garbage. This is the best ice

1544
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:44,000
Speaker 4: cream that's ever existed in the history of the planet Earth.

1545
01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:46,639
Speaker 4: And now they just continues to baffle me that it's

1546
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:47,840
Speaker 4: they've taken it from us.

1547
01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 2: It's funny, like it's still on the site. We have,

1548
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 2: we have twenty six core flavors that look on it.

1549
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:55,640
Speaker 3: What does it say?

1550
01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 5: Maybe it's coming back. Are we going to lead a resurgence.

1551
01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:00,040
Speaker 3: There's someone.

1552
01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:03,439
Speaker 4: That somebody did reach out and they got like a

1553
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:04,800
Speaker 4: there's multiple people.

1554
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 3: I saw.

1555
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 2: I saw that too, but like there's nothing on the

1556
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:08,680
Speaker 2: site like you would think if it was discontinued, it

1557
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:11,280
Speaker 2: wouldn't be on here right here, all.

1558
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 4: Right, I'm going to contact him to be part of

1559
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 4: my vacation.

1560
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:16,760
Speaker 2: Like here's here's an idea, get rid of blue Moon.

1561
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 2: Who needs who needs Blue Moon? Who want what flavors

1562
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:22,720
Speaker 2: that Blue Moon? That's something Boots he would pick just

1563
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:23,719
Speaker 2: because he'd like the color.

1564
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 4: No bananas, Foster, there's a reason. It's why it's served

1565
01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 4: at fine restaurants around the world as the table side

1566
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:31,680
Speaker 4: table side Flambay.

1567
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know. I can't really acknowledge that it's gone,

1568
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:38,880
Speaker 3: but I am going to go. I'm looking at some

1569
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 3: of their others. We need to reach out to top

1570
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:43,559
Speaker 3: people with Yes, we do.

1571
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 2: There's plenty of plenty of flavors on here that they

1572
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 2: could push out and no one would feel that Jeff George.

1573
01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:53,679
Speaker 4: But I mean just g Man's on a Jeff George's.

1574
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 4: I mean some of these are just almost as important.

1575
01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:58,719
Speaker 4: To be honest, I just don't think that there's anything

1576
01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:00,000
Speaker 4: on here that's.

1577
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:04,600
Speaker 3: Hmmm, I don't know I that tapsa.

1578
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:11,920
Speaker 5: Uh from Brownsbackers North Joysey. What's the Brownsbackers?

1579
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 3: They gotta have a great logo. They do, actually, of

1580
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:16,240
Speaker 3: course it's a really nice one.

1581
01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 5: What's a story slash topic you would like to see

1582
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 5: a thirty for thirty documentary made about? Okay, we're crushing anybody?

1583
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 5: Anybody answering the question.

1584
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:41,760
Speaker 3: I'll answer the question. Thirty for thirty that I have

1585
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 3: that has not been done? They've done so many? Do

1586
01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 3: you have one?

1587
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:53,240
Speaker 4: We just what were we saying the other day there

1588
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:55,080
Speaker 4: should be a thirty for thirty on it. We literally

1589
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:57,800
Speaker 4: were just saying this within the last month.

1590
01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 3: I mean, there's was it the Ohio State run with

1591
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 3: the with all that stuff, But I mean we just

1592
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 3: all lived that. I don't know that that's that's just

1593
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:07,880
Speaker 3: a little too fresh in the mind, too fresh.

1594
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 5: By the way, I sent you the North Jersey. Just

1595
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:11,800
Speaker 5: text you the logo.

1596
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 3: Logo, that's what I was looking for.

1597
01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:17,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't know if there's you know, I

1598
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:21,920
Speaker 2: think if you could ever I'll tell you what would

1599
01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:23,559
Speaker 2: be would be a fun one. And I know there's

1600
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:25,519
Speaker 2: been docks on it before, but I don't know. I

1601
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:27,800
Speaker 2: think it's always been done from the Duke side. I

1602
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:30,720
Speaker 2: think the perspective of that UNLV team in ninety one,

1603
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 2: like what was really what? And I know there's been

1604
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:36,360
Speaker 2: a UNLV doc that was done about Jerry and the

1605
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 2: building of UNLV, But like that team, no one was close.

1606
01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:44,360
Speaker 2: Greg Anthony foules out of the game with like four

1607
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:46,920
Speaker 2: minutes left in the game. Oh yeah, Larry Johnson gets

1608
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 2: the ball in the wing, he's got a lane to

1609
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 2: go score and said kicks it to Anderson Hun who

1610
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:53,680
Speaker 2: shoots from sixty when nobody shot from sixty. There's an

1611
01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 2: image with the fixer in the hot tub, Like, if

1612
01:19:56,880 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 2: you could ever get the real truth on what happened

1613
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:00,760
Speaker 2: with nineteen ninety one UNLV, that'd be a hell of

1614
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 2: a sports stock.

1615
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:02,360
Speaker 3: The tark is gone.

1616
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:04,559
Speaker 5: Duke beat them?

1617
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 2: They did, maybe they did, but it was a stupefying

1618
01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:09,680
Speaker 2: last five minutes of that game, and no one was

1619
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 2: close to that team all year. They end up having

1620
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:13,200
Speaker 2: four first round picks.

1621
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:15,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

1622
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 2: I just if you could ever get the real truth

1623
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 2: on that, that would be one that jumps out.

1624
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:23,720
Speaker 4: I like you, Preston, Oh, you know, I want a

1625
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:27,519
Speaker 4: thirty for thirty on there we go that boxing match

1626
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:32,880
Speaker 4: that the Mike Tyson, Oh, like the probably happened or Jake, Yeah,

1627
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 4: the real I want the real truth of that.

1628
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:36,360
Speaker 3: Of that, I think I know it. I think we

1629
01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:38,000
Speaker 3: did too, and I'd like it confirmed.

1630
01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:43,759
Speaker 5: Uh, Preston with his weekly fact and question. In fact,

1631
01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 5: according to Massachusetts law, you can't eat more than three

1632
01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:49,719
Speaker 5: sandwiches at a funeral.

1633
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 3: Why I don't have an answer. Just can't eat more

1634
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:55,679
Speaker 3: than more? You can't eat more than three? Three?

1635
01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:59,480
Speaker 5: San who's eating.

1636
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:01,639
Speaker 3: Whatever?

1637
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 5: I had fried chicken in a movie theater once? So

1638
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:08,640
Speaker 5: whatever you want to eat sandwiches at a funeral? Like

1639
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 5: is that at the is that at the luncheon after?

1640
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 5: Or is that actually during.

1641
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 2: The Who's who's possibly adjudicating that? Hold on, wait a second,

1642
01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:21,080
Speaker 2: that's your third jail.

1643
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 3: Sandwiches. The officers at the doorway with like.

1644
01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:28,920
Speaker 2: Little clubs it's quarters. What do you want three?

1645
01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 3: That's it. You're off enjoy the mass penitentiary.

1646
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:38,679
Speaker 5: His question of the week as a kid, what brought

1647
01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:42,080
Speaker 5: you more joy? Your birthday with the party, present, friends

1648
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:46,040
Speaker 5: or Christmas Morning seeing all the presents that Sannah left.

1649
01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 2: Christmas by a thousand miles. Birthdays were great, they were fine,

1650
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:51,799
Speaker 2: but it was Christmas.

1651
01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:54,680
Speaker 3: It was Sanna's. It wasn't close. It was foy.

1652
01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 2: Birthdays are great, but it's such a distant second to

1653
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 2: Chris Smith's.

1654
01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:02,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, me, it was not close.

1655
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:07,240
Speaker 5: Jersey Dog wants to know the status of j Okay.

1656
01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:10,280
Speaker 5: So do we Yeah, I.

1657
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 3: Mean we've talked about it a bunch. I mean you know, yeah. Uh.

1658
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 5: A couple of questions from Bobby. Bobby, do fortune cookie

1659
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:23,280
Speaker 5: predictions have a time limit?

1660
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:25,599
Speaker 3: Good question. I think they're all nonsense.

1661
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 4: I don't think they're in predictions anymore. They're not fortunes

1662
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:33,679
Speaker 4: there in many ways, they're just statements, just statements. Yeah,

1663
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:36,639
Speaker 4: this one definitely applies to you both. Who is your

1664
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 4: most family member eccentric? Yes, it was probably Zagazigo is

1665
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 4: the man.

1666
01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:53,880
Speaker 3: Uncle Tom had a full size Indian tepee like that

1667
01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 3: him and Bill Walton above his home him and Bill Wilton.

1668
01:22:57,200 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 3: That's fact Jack.

1669
01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:02,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, I'd like are for thirty on Damar Hamlin.

1670
01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:06,599
Speaker 3: I just the fact that he's okay. Like literally everything

1671
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:08,000
Speaker 3: what was actually.

1672
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 4: Known, especially every point during that game, the cameras and

1673
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:12,160
Speaker 4: MIC's everywhere.

1674
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:14,200
Speaker 3: It's all happened on a football field. Yeah, that's a

1675
01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:15,360
Speaker 3: good one. I like that one.

1676
01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:18,760
Speaker 5: If you could have any fictional character as a co worker,

1677
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:19,479
Speaker 5: who would it be?

1678
01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 3: I think I know the answer to this as well.

1679
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:25,800
Speaker 3: Fictional care I mean as a co worker under what auspices.

1680
01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 3: I mean, we're just I'm Mark. How would be a

1681
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:31,200
Speaker 3: lot of fun. Uncle Baby Billy would be great.

1682
01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:36,280
Speaker 2: I feel like the funk Man Leon would be quite fun. Yeah,

1683
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:37,640
Speaker 2: in the mix, I feel like you have a lot

1684
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:37,960
Speaker 2: of takes.

1685
01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:40,240
Speaker 4: Be nice to have Stevie Janowski as one of our coworkers.

1686
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:43,879
Speaker 4: Steve ki he was, he knew was the hierarchy. Everything

1687
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:46,240
Speaker 4: that he did was an homage to KP.

1688
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:51,719
Speaker 3: If he was in homage Das. Yeah. Yeah, we've chased

1689
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:54,120
Speaker 3: that that bar for a long time. That's Steee bar.

1690
01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:58,400
Speaker 3: Yeah we have yeah, uh.

1691
01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 5: Dog Cleveland Brown. What's your favorite fast food choice?

1692
01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:06,840
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't do much fast food to be

1693
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 4: perfectly honest with you. But when I do, I would

1694
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:13,160
Speaker 4: either be under and I mean I'm talking I may.

1695
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 3: You're talking about here.

1696
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 2: You're not talking about facts casual like Chipotle or something

1697
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:21,720
Speaker 2: like that. You're talking about get it in the.

1698
01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:25,360
Speaker 4: I mean, I probably have this less than two times

1699
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:28,200
Speaker 4: a year. But if it would be either Chick fil

1700
01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:30,840
Speaker 4: A or Taco Bell, no, nothing else is even close.

1701
01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:33,160
Speaker 3: Nothing they'll be even in the discussion. I love Chick

1702
01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:34,000
Speaker 3: fil A breakfast.

1703
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 2: Those those are the two. Those are I had this

1704
01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 2: exact same too. It was yeah, it's Chick fil A.

1705
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:41,360
Speaker 2: And now I haven't had Taco Bell in years.

1706
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:43,080
Speaker 3: Way too long. Same. I don't think I have you're

1707
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:45,040
Speaker 3: missing I don't. I don't know. I know, I am,

1708
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:46,439
Speaker 3: I know it is.

1709
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:48,679
Speaker 4: When they did what Hudsonville did, take away the best

1710
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:50,840
Speaker 4: thing that they ever had, which was the Volcano Taco.

1711
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 4: When they just like took that out of the rotation,

1712
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:55,080
Speaker 4: they lost me. And then I have also a big

1713
01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:58,160
Speaker 4: Wendy's fan, like I have not eaten at a Wendy's

1714
01:24:59,280 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 4: Burger king.

1715
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,599
Speaker 3: I've had an muffin in the last year and had

1716
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:06,400
Speaker 3: one of those that there's any wrong with that people will't, yeah,

1717
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:09,439
Speaker 3: but Chick fil A. And then I think when Taco

1718
01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:12,040
Speaker 3: Bell decided whenever they decided like Dorito's loco stock, I

1719
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 3: was like, who does you like that's the smartest thing

1720
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:17,000
Speaker 3: in the history of the world. Yep to do that.

1721
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:19,880
Speaker 3: Those were killer. Let me tell you something.

1722
01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 4: And then in the glory days of my high school

1723
01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:26,960
Speaker 4: and even early college, do you remember what the menu

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Speaker 4: prices were at Taco Bell, like a buck twenty nine

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01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:35,559
Speaker 4: or a buck nine or fifty nine seventy? It was

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Speaker 4: ninety nine was the most expensive items.

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Speaker 3: You Yeah, you could be out of there and fight.

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Speaker 3: You're like four bucks and that was it.

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Speaker 4: I remember there was a time where I in a

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Speaker 4: Cinnamon Twist. It was like three people and for the

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01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 4: three of us it was like fifty bucks.

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Speaker 3: And I remember when we went through the drive through.

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Speaker 4: It was like they were handing a suitcases of food

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Speaker 4: and they're like, this is the single biggest order we've

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Speaker 4: ever had, and it was fifty bucks for three people.

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01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 4: You're right, ninety nine was on You're in like big

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Speaker 4: time supreme. The upper end used to be able to

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Speaker 4: get chicken soft tackle for fifty nine cents.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I love a dog today. Man was a good

1741
01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:22,240
Speaker 5: scouting ahead for the CBD draft. What is your hand size?

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01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:24,720
Speaker 5: What would be your forty time in bench press?

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Speaker 3: You get big mits on Z I'm like, I think

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01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:29,880
Speaker 3: that we did. We did this once on the show.

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01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:32,439
Speaker 4: I think I was nine and nine.

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01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 3: And three quarters.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you are far and away in the best

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01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:37,960
Speaker 2: shape of all of us. I think you would be

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01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:39,759
Speaker 2: the clear number one pick in any sort.

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Speaker 3: Of My forty time would be so new, very slow.

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Speaker 4: I would be thrilled if I broke like five and

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01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:48,320
Speaker 4: a half, No, maybe five.

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01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:50,599
Speaker 2: When is the last time that you like ran as

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01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 2: hard as you could without the idea of warm up

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01:26:55,400 --> 01:26:58,360
Speaker 2: or anything like, just just sprinted.

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01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:01,040
Speaker 4: Sometimes at the end of a night, if it in

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01:27:01,080 --> 01:27:03,360
Speaker 4: the winter time and it's cold out, I'll just run,

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01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:05,639
Speaker 4: like to go get my car.

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Speaker 3: I'll just start, I'll take off. Will you sprint though,

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01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:08,960
Speaker 3: or just like John?

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Speaker 4: I mean it's a fast run. It's not like I'm

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01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:13,719
Speaker 4: running like my life depends on it. But I'm moving

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01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:18,040
Speaker 4: when you when you're our age, Yeah, by two twenty five,

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01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 4: I could do five times.

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Speaker 3: This almost happened to.

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01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:22,439
Speaker 2: My buddy Seal last night at basketball practice on a

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01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:24,599
Speaker 2: on a whim. He decided he's gonna run lines with

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01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:27,960
Speaker 2: the kids, and he took off sprinting tour, and like

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01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:31,080
Speaker 2: when hard he didn't. But he goes at the end,

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01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:32,639
Speaker 2: I go, buddy, I don't need to carry you out

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01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 2: of here with an achilles, and he goes, I may

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01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:36,960
Speaker 2: have done my hammy in I'm like, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Of course you did. You can't just sprint now, of

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01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:42,040
Speaker 3: course you did. You haven't sprinted. No, you have to

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01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:44,080
Speaker 3: build up to a sprint. Yes, you can't.

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Speaker 4: Just so when I was with that in my when

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01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:51,280
Speaker 4: I was in my training for AIW, I would go

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01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:53,720
Speaker 4: on the treadmill and have it be going at like

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01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:57,840
Speaker 4: ten to twelve miles an hour, so cooking yep, and

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01:27:57,880 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 4: I would do all. I would build myself up myself

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01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:01,640
Speaker 4: at like eight and then nine and I would do

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01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:03,479
Speaker 4: kind of what I figured, like in wrestling, I need

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01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 4: to be explosive for fifteen seconds and now is it?

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01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:07,800
Speaker 4: So I do like fifteen on, fifteen off, fifteen on,

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01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:09,920
Speaker 4: fifteen off to kind of get my body used to

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01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:14,680
Speaker 4: trying to be explosive, because that's in hindsight when I

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01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:16,120
Speaker 4: think of all the people who train for this and

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01:28:16,160 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 4: do this and like tear a quad or yeah, do

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01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:23,920
Speaker 4: something bad just trying to do normal things. Perhaps there

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01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:27,759
Speaker 4: are steroids or reason there are some other bodybuilding enhancement

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01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:30,000
Speaker 4: that I'm not doing is the reason they tear these muscles.

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01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:33,960
Speaker 4: But at the same time, I'm very happy that that.

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Speaker 3: I'm fine that you got out of that one.

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01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:38,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think in retrospect, like it was insane to

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01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:40,320
Speaker 4: think that I wasn't going to pull a muscle or

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01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:41,280
Speaker 4: do anything.

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01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:43,160
Speaker 3: I believe I said all of these things in the

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01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:45,519
Speaker 3: moment and said, are you sure? But I did it.

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01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:46,880
Speaker 2: I know you did, but I was like, and I

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01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:48,360
Speaker 2: know it was one of the crowning achievements, but I

1801
01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:52,000
Speaker 2: was like, great, man, dude, so.

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01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:54,720
Speaker 3: Much more to come clear. The eight fifty ESPN.

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Speaker 3: All right, there you go.

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Speaker 2: Senior Bowl Week wraps up tomorrow, see of that that

1808
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:27,040
Speaker 2: we'll be doing, and then we get through tomorrow and

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01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:27,960
Speaker 2: then we got Super Bowl Week.

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Speaker 3: Yep, to come I do this.

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Speaker 2: It's I think everyone's lying with saying they're not gonna

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Speaker 2: watch the super Bowl. Everyone's going to watch the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: I do think next week there will be a great

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01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:41,639
Speaker 2: deal of apathy for the game because we've just seen

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01:29:41,680 --> 01:29:46,640
Speaker 2: it so recently, and we've seen these two teams so much. Iday,

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01:29:46,680 --> 01:29:48,759
Speaker 2: You're gonna get huge, That's what I said, Like, everyone's

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01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:50,519
Speaker 2: gonna watch. But in terms of the lead up, I

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01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:51,880
Speaker 2: don't think there's gonna be a whole lot of interest

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Speaker 2: in the dialogue around it, with the way that it's

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Speaker 2: gonna go. All right, the next level is coming up

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Speaker 2: next Kids, We're back tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Lee, The Browns Daily, eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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