1 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: Really readily dalks. Look at us now, tip to tip. 2 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the 3 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm 4 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: Brian Campbell. 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 2: This this Morning Combat. 6 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, a little little bonus action, little instant reaction 7 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 3: for you on this Saturday evening at least East Coast time. 8 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 3: Here UFC two eighty six in the books in London 9 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 3: and a trilogy welterweight title main event. Leon Edwards and 10 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 3: Kamara Usman is behind us. I'm here to break it 11 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 3: all down for you, Brian Campbell. You're looking at me, 12 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 3: one half of your award winning Morning Combat duo every Monday, 13 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 3: Wednesday and Friday here on the youtubes on the Morning 14 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 3: Combat Channel. Luke Thomas idle this evening. But you know, 15 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 3: still a little art brush style. Okay, let's break this 16 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 3: thing down. Mikey Morml on the ones and twos behind me, 17 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 3: and uh, I guess there's no need any more to 18 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 3: say spoiler alert. Right. If you're watching an instant reaction, 19 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 3: it's because you want to talk about what just went down. 20 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 3: And what went down was Lee on Edwards majority decision 21 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 3: over five rounds to defend his welterweight title against former 22 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 3: pound for pound king Kamara Usman. Wow, this wasn't the 23 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 3: fight I expected. I don't think it was a fight 24 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 3: a lot of people expected. There were certainly elements of 25 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 3: drama and intensity to it, but it was largely a 26 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 3: technical affair. But if you're looking for me to come 27 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 3: out here and do a Maya kulpa, which I think 28 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 3: a lot of us in this industry, especially us here 29 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 3: on Morning Combat who picked Kamorrow Usman, have a lot 30 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 3: of respect for Leon Edwards, but didn't see him climbing 31 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 3: this hill, at least in this way. Once again, Yeah, 32 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 3: I'm here to tell you that I was wrong, and 33 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 3: I've been wrong about Leon all along. This victory was thorough, 34 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 3: this victory was technical, and ultimately this victory was about 35 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 3: the graduation, the evolution, the growth of Leon Edwards as 36 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 3: not just a mixed martial artist, but almost like a 37 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 3: man in general. Because Kamara Usman, even literally up to 38 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 3: the point of the start of the fight, was trying 39 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 3: everything to get into the head of Leon Edwards, was 40 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 3: trying to dull the potential of what that home crowd 41 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 3: could do as a buoyant factor in lifting Leon and 42 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 3: Leon was ultimately unfazed, unshakable. 43 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 2: That's the fight right there. 44 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 3: Look, it comes down to if you're able to keep 45 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 3: one of the most dominant wrestlers in the history of 46 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,839 Speaker 3: this sport in Usman away from routinely taking you down, 47 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 3: and then the rare times that he does, away from 48 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 3: establishing a presence of dominance of grounded pound, of really 49 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 3: any sort of lengthy time on the ground, that's going 50 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 3: to be a big opportunity to help you win. But 51 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 3: the bigger reason here along with that, why Leon Edwards 52 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 3: wasn't this one hit wonder at the elite level who 53 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 3: came into that title shot after a ten fight unbeaten streak. 54 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 2: But let's be fair. 55 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 3: On the look back, a lot of us saying, you know, 56 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 3: maybe doesn't belong doesn't really belong here? 57 00:02:58,880 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 2: Will he belong there? 58 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 3: In round five of their rematch last August when he 59 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,959 Speaker 3: hit the head kick heard around the world. But you 60 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 3: have to love the maturity and the growth and how 61 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 3: he did this against thirty five year old Usman in 62 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 3: this trilogy, the takedowns were huge, but on the feet, 63 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,119 Speaker 3: Usman put on a lot of pressure on him, constantly 64 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 3: backing him up to the cage. But it's because of 65 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 3: Edwards that that pressure was largely ineffective. Let's be fair, 66 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 3: it turned out to be somewhat basic pressure. It's usman 67 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 3: coming in with the jab looking to land big shots, 68 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 3: but really not doing a great job setting up his takedowns. 69 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 2: Level changing doing it was. 70 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 3: You know, a lot of the takedowns were very telegraphed 71 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 3: or along the fence, and that's ultimately where Leon Edwards 72 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 3: kept himself off the ground but on the feet. You 73 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 3: gotta love how smart his counter striking was. We knew 74 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 3: this had the potential with the point deduction which we'll 75 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 3: get to, and just some very close rounds where technique 76 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 3: was high. Maybe there's a big striker too, but not 77 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 3: a lot of sustained back and forth action. I think 78 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 3: there was a fear here that the scores could be 79 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 3: all over the place, or maybe that in some cases 80 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 3: the judges wouldn't recognize exactly what Leon was doing, only 81 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 3: because it was Kamara who was constantly putting him on 82 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 3: the back foot, backing him up to the cage and 83 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 3: walking him down. If fuel with pressure, but again it 84 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 3: turned out to be ineffective pressure, and that's because Leon 85 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 3: Edwards counter kick game, focusing on that left leg from 86 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 3: the beginning to slow down Usman's mobility was just on point, 87 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 3: along with the body shots, along with the counter left hooks, 88 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 3: along with the big knees that he landed to great 89 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 3: effect and not only wobble Usman there in round two, 90 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 3: but to really set the threat that that high kick 91 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 3: was not a fluke, that that high kick could be 92 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 3: there again. And I think that all played a big 93 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 3: factor into somewhat neutralizing and turning Usman, who can be 94 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 3: a dynamic fighter, was at one point the best fighter 95 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 3: in the world, into a somewhat basic, come forward attack 96 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 3: on him. That's all credit to exactly what Leon was 97 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 3: able to do this night. The judges scores in the 98 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 3: end forty eight forty six, forty eight forty six for edwards, 99 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 3: which is essentially four rounds to one with that point deduction, 100 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 3: a round three for the blatant fence grab, and then 101 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 3: forty seven forty seven. What could these scores have been? 102 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 3: That's an interesting question. A draw would not been out 103 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 3: of the question. I think even in Usman victory would 104 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 3: not have been out of the question either, mostly because 105 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 3: these rounds were so close. 106 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 2: I ultimately scored it the same way. 107 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 3: Two of the three judges did forty eight forty six 108 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 3: for Edwards, So what does that look like? I gave 109 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 3: the round one to Rocky Edwards, which most people did. 110 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 3: Round two was very close and really could have gone 111 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 3: either way. You had Leon Edwards landing the big knee 112 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 3: that rocked Tomorrow, but Kamara was able to come back 113 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 3: with a big right hand of his own, a takedown, 114 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 3: and then I think he did some of his best 115 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 3: work when Leon got up but was leaving himself covered 116 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 3: against the fence. You have to understand the visual optics 117 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 3: of that of Kamorrow slipping in big left hands at 118 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 3: an aggressive rate that could have been enough to steal it. 119 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 3: But I think it was Leon's sharp shooting down the 120 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 3: stretch of that round that allowed me to give him 121 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 3: that I had him up to nothing. Round three another 122 00:05:59,400 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 3: swing round. 123 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 2: Yes, I thought the. 124 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 3: Point deduction from Herb Dean was perfect because Leon Edwards had, 125 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 3: unfortunately for himself, gotten into a pattern of fouling, whether 126 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 3: it was you know, grabbing the gloves, whether it was 127 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 3: repeated load blows. In this case, he blatantly grabbed the 128 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 3: fence to avoid being taken back down after rising. So 129 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 3: that's either you know, a nine to nine round if 130 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 3: you scored it for Edwards, or a ten eight around 131 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 3: the way if you scored it for Usman, which I did, 132 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 3: but again in full disclosure, a very very close round, 133 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 3: but the championship rounds the right fighter peaked at the 134 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 3: right time and showed that he proved to keep that 135 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 3: belt and still be champion. I gave Edwards rounds four 136 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 3: and five again, as did two of those three judges there, 137 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 3: so it could have. 138 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 2: Gone either way, could have been a split decision. It 139 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:41,239 Speaker 2: could have gone the way. 140 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 3: Of Usman, but I think if it had, even though 141 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 3: under the ten to nine must system, it still could 142 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 3: have worked because of how close these swing rounds were. 143 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 3: This is one of those fights that watching it without 144 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 3: scoring from a distance and you ask yourself who did better, 145 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 3: who won? 146 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 2: Who would you rather be? It was Edwards. 147 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 3: I think the only thing, you know, again ultimately potentially 148 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 3: negative optically, was the fact that Usman kept backing. 149 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: Him up so much. But Osman just ineffective. 150 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 3: And you know, is that a mixture of the long 151 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 3: layoff thirty five years old coming back from the head 152 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 3: kick knockout. 153 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 2: I wouldn't say I saw that. 154 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 3: I mean, does that play into this factor to some 155 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 3: degree that Usman in this fight was unable to break 156 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 3: through and be as consistently dominant as he had been 157 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 3: on the lead up to winning the title and some 158 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 3: of his title defenses. I'm sure it plays some level 159 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 3: of apart, but that would be robbing from the effort 160 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 3: defensively countering technique that Leon ultimately did. And you know, 161 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 3: I'm here to tell you I was wrong for most 162 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 3: of the ride to get to this point. Although to 163 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 3: be fair, Leon had lacked some big name wins throughout 164 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 3: the totality of this unbeaten streak, But when he stepped 165 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 3: in with these big names on these last few, he 166 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 3: ultimately showed out and showed exactly who he is is 167 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 3: that second fight, when we look back more about that 168 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 3: elevation in Salt Lake City, the fact that Usman regularly 169 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 3: chained that elevation in Colorado, and a lot of fighters 170 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 3: on that card, Edwards included, really had to dig deep 171 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 3: and he was able to find that fifth round moment. 172 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 3: I don't know, but a year later, you know, or 173 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 3: nine months later, eight months wherever we're at there, we 174 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 3: saw a fighter who's you know, not not that much 175 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 3: younger than Usman, but looked to be more prime, more fresh, 176 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,559 Speaker 3: and had done more work. And I'm not saying, O Kamara, 177 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 3: Usman didn't do the work to come back in in 178 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 3: great shape, which which he did and he always does, 179 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 3: and to do the work internally right to really make 180 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 3: sure that all these pre fight narratives of the combination 181 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 3: of his age, with the knockout loss, with getting your 182 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 3: lights turned out, with all of that, I'm sure he 183 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 3: did the work to get himself back to this point 184 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,599 Speaker 3: commendably to be in this fight and again have a 185 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 3: somewhat of a chance on the cards. 186 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 2: But some of the posturing for Usman. 187 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 3: And I took note of it leading up to this 188 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 3: because you know, you wonder because when Ronda Rosey gets 189 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 3: head kicked by Holly Holm, we then look back at 190 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 3: that Prescott or other prescotts the weigh in, and we 191 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 3: look at how mannic Rondo was acting, and you start 192 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 3: to say to yourself, is here's somebody at that point 193 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 3: who may have you know at some point and overlooked 194 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 3: that opponent was busy outside of the outside of the cage, 195 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 3: certainly rushed that fight in went in. There was trying 196 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 3: to hype herself up. I wonder if that's exactly what 197 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 3: Kamara was doing, mixed with the idea of let me 198 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 3: big brother you, let me bring the intensity, let me 199 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 3: kind of bully you and show you that I'm the 200 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 3: real champion here. What happened last year was a fluke, 201 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 3: and I'm going to show you. So Tomorrow comes walking 202 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 3: into the cage and during the introductions comes racing right 203 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 3: up to Leon and I I think he put some 204 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 3: form of a figurative gun, and no glove touched the 205 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 3: face off. Kamorrow was not making eye contact. He's looking 206 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 3: into the chest to Leon. And even after the first 207 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 3: round ended, which was a clear Leon round, you saw 208 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 3: Usman getting in his face. 209 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 2: None of that worked at the end. 210 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 3: So when it doesn't work that consistently and you start 211 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 3: to look back on it, you wonder how much of 212 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 3: that is usman walking into enemy territory trying to you know, 213 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 3: resurrect and resuscitate himself and get himself up to a 214 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 3: certain level. Again, I commend Tomorrow for getting back to 215 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 3: this point, for being in a somewhat close fight in 216 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 3: which he had a you know, an argument or a 217 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 3: lane to potentially win it, but Leon Edwards ultimately succeeded 218 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 3: in kind of making him look somewhat basic. For as 219 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 3: much as he had the success of backing Leon up, 220 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 3: he just couldn't do anything with it in these advantageous positions. 221 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 3: I thought maybe the clinch could be big for Kamara 222 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 3: to use that strength and explosiveness. Was really unable to 223 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 3: bully him at any point outside of those flurry of 224 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 3: punches when Leon was covering up. Yes, both landed key 225 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 3: sort of big strikes that could have swayed the round 226 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 3: in either direction. This was a very mature. 227 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 2: And focused victory by Leon Edwards. 228 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 3: And you know you in this case as an analyst, 229 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 3: you sort of happily eat the crow and happily say 230 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 3: I was wrong about this guy because the poison performance 231 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 3: he showed here and that he showed in round five 232 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 3: of the rematch. I don't think that was the same 233 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 3: fighter throughout the majority of this win streak. I think 234 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 3: in a lot of ways he grew along with it, 235 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 3: gaining the confidence working on his game. 236 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 2: But you know who worked harder between. 237 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 3: Fights two and three on the type of things that 238 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 3: ultimately were going to allow them to win this fight. 239 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 2: It was Leon Edwards. 240 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 3: That commitment to the takedown defense was a monster part 241 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 3: of this game plan. 242 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 2: It was a monster part of his success. 243 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 3: I hedged that with some level of concern, though, and 244 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 3: I seized it off the top. Usman, I don't think 245 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 3: he shot at all in the first round, and I 246 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 3: didn't really love a lot of his setups. So although 247 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 3: he was successful, on't have the stats in front of me, 248 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 3: although he was largely successful at times and pulling a 249 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 3: single leg or backing Edwards up to the cage and 250 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 3: shooting down quick with a double leg and sort of 251 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 3: dragging him down. Not only was Edwards popping back up, 252 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 3: but there was a lot of the nature there that 253 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 3: those were that Edwards could see those shots coming. This 254 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 3: was Kamara who just sort of lacked something different. And 255 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 3: it's like, it's an interesting spot because what was my 256 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 3: analysis coming, what was Luke Thomas's analysis coming? 257 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 2: It was a lot of us right. 258 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 3: I mean, I think he had a lot of people 259 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 3: split on the idea of who was going to win, 260 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 3: because you couldn't overlook Usman's age, you couldn't overlook the 261 00:11:59,000 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 3: knockout loss. 262 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 2: And sometimes when somebody gets somebody's number and. 263 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 3: A rivalry look at Poeton right now against you know, 264 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 3: against ad Asania. It's sort of sometimes that momentum just 265 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 3: sort of mentally shifts to a level that you just 266 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 3: sort of grab that control and you can bite down 267 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 3: and win no matter what. But Usman Law, you know, 268 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 3: to seem to have really lost something in that second 269 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 3: fight in terms of the momentum. And I don't want 270 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 3: to say self belief, but Rocky rose because of it. 271 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 3: And if Rocky Edwards was a one hit wonder, he 272 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 3: would have had that moment and he would have come 273 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 3: in here in front of the home fans and he 274 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 3: ultimately probably would have been taken down a ton, ground 275 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 3: pounded and beat around. But he grew tremendously between fights, 276 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 3: and the poises is through the window. I mean, you 277 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 3: can't land a head kick like that in the fifth 278 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 3: round of the rematch without tremendous poison focus. 279 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 2: But what a performance. I mean, what are you gonna 280 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 2: say about it? 281 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 3: You come in with the idea like a lot of 282 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 3: us did that. That back to the point on Usman's 283 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 3: game that that Usman has essentially had the mindset of 284 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 3: it was a mistake. So let me get back to 285 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 3: doing what I do and if I execute doing what 286 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 3: I do, it will be enough. But here's the thing though, 287 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 3: because of Edward's growth, it wasn't enough, and it was ultimately, 288 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 3: you know, largely a stalemate in some big moments there. 289 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 3: Because of that, usman never had either an extra gear, 290 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 3: an extra trick up a sleeve, or any you know, 291 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 3: I would have thought you'd almost coming out on a 292 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 3: spam level of takedowns, get himself an incredible shape as 293 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 3: he always does, come back with that eye of the 294 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 3: tiger motivation, and really look to use the threat of 295 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 3: those takedowns to set up big right hands. Ultimately it 296 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 3: was almost the opposite, using his job, using the striking 297 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,719 Speaker 3: to get good position, but then really being ineffective and 298 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 3: shooting for takedowns that were never really you know, surprise 299 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 3: shoots that were really sort of focused, walk you down, 300 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 3: get you there. Leon Edwards is ultimately able to get 301 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 3: it done. 302 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 2: The maturity level on this can't say enough about it. 303 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 3: Love the crowd saying headshot dead and you know I 304 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 3: mean Leon screaming that in the microphone after getting a 305 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 3: majority decision win. As my colleague Shoukill MAJORI comically said 306 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 3: in our slack channel, you know, you could certainly kind 307 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 3: of throw a shot against that, but the crowd backed 308 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 3: him in a way that you'd suspect, but it lifted him. 309 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 3: That was an element in this that was a big 310 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 3: part of it. And now you've got a suddenly a 311 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 3: Colby Covington, who wait in for this event, didn't wasn't 312 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 3: needed in the end, is trying desperately to get himself 313 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 3: back into a title shot, which you can certainly argue 314 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 3: coming off of pay per view win over Masvidal a 315 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 3: while ago, whether that's warranted. This is a heavy division 316 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 3: at the moment with hungry contenders, and you've got retreads lingering, 317 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 3: and you've got a big Masvidal fight coming up against 318 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 3: Gilbert that could decide some things. And you've certainly got 319 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 3: the rock Monoff type of new breed coming in. Although 320 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 3: Dana what seemed to answer our question this week on 321 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 3: the idea of what truly is next for Hamza chamaiav 322 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 3: And it does seem according to Dana that it is 323 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 3: middleweight moving forward. But I didn't expect to be in 324 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 3: this reality of saying, okay, matchmaking wise, the. 325 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 2: Hell are we doing next? You know? Is it? 326 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 3: Colby Covington and I think ultimately when Leon was asked that, 327 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 3: he said that man hasn't fought in like a year 328 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 3: and a half. He hasn't fought nobody, But it seemed 329 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 3: like he was willing to do it. If that was 330 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 3: the direction it goes. And if you're looking to now 331 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 3: establish Edwards, does this not only inspirational sort of hero 332 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 3: champion potential crossover start, not real crossover because there was 333 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 3: always some sort of built in limitations. 334 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 2: But you can't overlook what that inspirational. 335 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 3: Did win did last time out in the second fight 336 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 3: to really raise the awareness and then for him to 337 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 3: come out with a performance this solid. You could argue 338 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 3: that a prepared villain like Colby Covington, you know, sort 339 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 3: of is sort of the perfect first defense type of 340 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 3: opponent to throw at him marketing. 341 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 2: Wise to get that going. 342 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 3: But there's gonna be no shortage of killers knocking on 343 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 3: the store, and of course Bellah Muhammed atop that list 344 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 3: as well. And we'll certainly get into the what's next 345 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 3: in depth this week on Morning Combat. But a close 346 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 3: fights sometimes a weird fight, and you know, I'm just 347 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 3: happy in the end that the right guy won because 348 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 3: there was sort of some elements in there where you 349 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 3: could have gone free to to Usman, especially if he 350 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 3: gave him a ten eight in that third n with 351 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 3: the point deduction, and it could have went in his favor. 352 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 3: But I think when Kamara looks back on this, didn't 353 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 3: have enough. 354 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 2: He was out gunned in this. 355 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 3: They met, you know, early on in their career, and 356 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 3: Kamorrow was certainly better at that point. They met a 357 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 3: second time last year, and I think Tomorrow at that 358 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 3: moment was still better. He lost that fight, though not 359 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 3: better anymore. Leon Edwards is going to have a deserving 360 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 3: home after two straight wins over this version of Usman 361 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 3: in the top ten pound for pound. If he wasn't 362 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 3: already there after that head kick knockout, he was for 363 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 3: me in sort of the back half of the top 364 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 3: of the top ten. But respect is in order after 365 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 3: a thorough performance across the board, you know, and he 366 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 3: was a threat too, those knees, the leg strikes, which 367 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 3: which really you know, Kamorrow did his best to sort 368 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 3: of hide what was going on with that and continue 369 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 3: to come forward, but that played a big role ultimately 370 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 3: in preventing Tomorrow from going into destroyer mode going into 371 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 3: that terminator mode where he sort of just the takes 372 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 3: the takes the lead on everything, starts walking down and 373 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 3: then when the threat of the takedown start mixing in 374 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 3: and he's yankeing at your gas tank, that element wasn't 375 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 3: in play and it has to be disappointing for tomorrow 376 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 3: when he looks back, Although he could certainly raise his 377 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 3: hands and say, you know, I had a case in 378 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 3: this fight, but he did go down a notch from 379 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 3: this back to back two fight rivalry. It could coincide 380 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 3: with age he didn't retire afterwards that we speculated win 381 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 3: or lose, It could happen. 382 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 2: He wants to spend time, his daughter, wants to go 383 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 2: back to the drawing board to some degree. 384 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 3: But the right guy won and it's in a lot 385 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 3: of ways it's a new era now in this welterweight division. 386 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 2: Will Leon Edwards stay on top? Will we build a 387 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:33,959 Speaker 2: fun stretch? 388 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 3: Him being out of the UK can't hurt him right 389 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 3: now from the UFC standpoint, to continue to do the 390 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 3: type of events that we just saw with an incredible 391 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 3: crowd and that type of attention and the price gouging 392 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 3: on the tickets there, UFC don't think we missed that. 393 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 3: But what an interesting night there atop in the main 394 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 3: event not going the way I expected, even if I expected, 395 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 3: even if you expected Leon win, would you. 396 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 2: Have expected it that way? 397 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 3: It was a thorough smart defense technical victory from him 398 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 3: with enough threat of that offense, and the head kick 399 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 3: was close a couple of times. You know, it would 400 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 3: have been the ultimate irony. Obviously if he's able to 401 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 3: hit something like that that could effect or end the fight. 402 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 3: But I think that constant threat of it in Usman 403 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 3: getting the block up or the times that Edwards just 404 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 3: missed it was. It was a Camaro who was confident 405 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 3: in his ability to move forward and pressure, but he 406 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 3: had his own limitations of the risks and chances he 407 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 3: was ultimately willing to take. 408 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 2: And I think it almost hurt. It's weird, it almost hurt. 409 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 3: Usman in my opinion, that the point deduction went in 410 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 3: his favor in round three and that suddenly it looked 411 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 3: like he was so much back into this fight. And again, look, 412 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 3: one scorecard had to draw okay, which would have been 413 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 3: a unanimous decision for Leon had it not been for 414 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 3: that point deduction. But my point on the point deduction 415 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 3: is it kept the fight close enough where Usman did 416 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 3: never really took chances where he felt, hey, man, if 417 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 3: I stay on this, if I stay on this with 418 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 3: the jab, if I keep kind of backing him down, 419 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 3: if I keep the threat of takedowns up, that's going 420 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 3: to be enough. Well it almost forced him into a 421 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 3: position to ultimately play it too safe when what Usman 422 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 3: needed to do was knock him down, walk him down, 423 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 3: take him down, beat him down. None of that was 424 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 3: able to happen at the end of the day. So 425 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 3: another chance, man, this sport moves so fast, right, and 426 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 3: it's another changing of the guard on top. And it's 427 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 3: funny the guard already changed. Edwards was already the champion 428 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 3: last August. But when you're fighting a guy who had 429 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 3: a fifteen fight win streak, who was the pound for 430 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 3: pound king, and when you do it miraculously in such 431 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 3: dramatic fashion that people can use words like oh was 432 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 3: that a fluke? You do need to do it twice 433 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 3: at this level against guys that good. 434 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 2: Leon Rocky Edwards did just that. 435 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 3: I mean, the takedown stuff's had to be demoralizing for 436 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 3: you know, and Kamorrow never showed, right, never showed when 437 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 3: he was getting hurt to the body with some of 438 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 3: those shots. Never showed the tell of when his left 439 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 3: lead leg was getting charred up. And interesting enough though, 440 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 3: Kamorrow open southpaw does a lot of stand switching, but 441 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 3: even after that steady supply of kicks, stays in that 442 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 3: orthodox stance the rest of the way with that damaged 443 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 3: leg lead forward. So didn't love across the board, but 444 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 3: did love the performance from Leon. What an interesting night 445 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 3: though on this UFC two eighty six there at the 446 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 3: O two arena we talked about changing of the Guard 447 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 3: now completed atop the welter with division. I thought there 448 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 3: was gonna be potential like end of an era moments 449 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 3: here in that Cole main event when Justin Gaichie and 450 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 3: Raphael Phazeve touched glove because Zie the betting favor coming 451 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,719 Speaker 3: in six fight win streak spectacular knockouts. 452 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 2: I mean, you saw the. 453 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 3: First round of this fight insane speed, video game speed, 454 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 3: stupid stupid, scary level speed. 455 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 2: You know it had you feeling like it's Justin Gai Chee. 456 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 3: I don't want to say the last of this old 457 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 3: Guard group because Dustin Pourrie just had a big win 458 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 3: over Chandler and is in the larger title picture for sure. 459 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 3: But you know, a loss here for Justin Gaichie following 460 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 3: two title losses in the past three years, would have 461 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 3: been the end of the run for him and the 462 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 3: division at large, for this aging group of the Ferguson 463 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 3: the con you know, Habib's gone poor, ye I gainst 464 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 3: you all those guys. Although Connor could stumble into a 465 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 3: welterweight title shot after if he beach Chandler, who knows 466 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 3: about that, But it didn't go that way. Again, this 467 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 3: was a hell of a three round victory for Justin Gaichee. 468 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 2: I mean, just you know, a thirty four. I didn't 469 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 2: expect him to be washed. I didn't expect him to 470 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 2: get stopped, right, I didn't expect him to be a 471 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 2: you know where he's getting lit up, but he's still 472 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 2: trying to come forward and make the fight. I thought 473 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 2: he would get out out technique here against I knew 474 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 2: it would be big, big picture moments with the with 475 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 2: the violence and aggression which you expect from these two. 476 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 2: And ultimately this fight lived up to some level of 477 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 2: the expectations for just batch of craziness. Right. 478 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 3: It wasn't a fight of the year necessarily type of 479 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 3: back and forth brawl, but it had big moments and 480 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 3: the threat of big moments in there. But I thought 481 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 3: what we saw in round one really could have been 482 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 3: the theme the rest of the way for Raphael phasive, 483 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 3: which is to control that fight from distance and really 484 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 3: get justin Gaichee looking, you know, looking like he's in 485 00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 3: concrete at times, trying to catch up with they're trying. 486 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:00,479 Speaker 2: To get off shots. 487 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 3: The only thing is, though we're asking if Azeb, who's 488 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 3: had you know, those six wins, three early ish spectacular stoppages, 489 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 3: is can you do this grind? Not at the five 490 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 3: round pace that would be to come if he keeps advancing, 491 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 3: but at the three round pay per view cole main event. 492 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 2: Pace against a guy who just won't freaking go away. 493 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 3: And I thought, you know, Daniel Cormier had had that 494 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 3: great line what it's like to make this leap from 495 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 3: the you know, top fifteen, top twenty guys into now 496 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 3: the title contending top five or six guys. Is that 497 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 3: that quote he had about you know, the elite guys 498 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 3: that don't go away when you hit them with their 499 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 3: big shots. And that started to happen there midway and 500 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 3: round two and it's kind of onto itself. Had some 501 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 3: interesting scoring there that Justin Gatchee takes a majority decision 502 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 3: twenty nine to twenty eight, two rounds to one, twenty 503 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 3: nine to twenty eight, and then that third scorecard. 504 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 2: But good old Donald Sutherland. 505 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 3: Which will will be a repeated pattern of mentioning this fella. 506 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,239 Speaker 3: Tonight he scored a ten to eight round, which I 507 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 3: did not agree with than round three. I scored round 508 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 3: three for Gei Chee. He landed huge shots, the cuts 509 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 3: that were in the bruising that was already there around 510 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 3: the eyes of Raphael Phaziv got busted open Crimson mask. 511 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 3: I understand the feelings the notion there of a potential 512 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 3: ten eight round, but that ultimately made a little bit 513 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 3: weird majority of decision. 514 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 2: But this was Justin Gaiche's fight. Gave Brown one to 515 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 2: Physive like everybody else. He was so scary. 516 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 3: But when his gas tank starts to slow down a bit, 517 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 3: when Justin Geegee getting starts getting up on you and 518 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 3: it's starting to be able to close that distance more, 519 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 3: you found out where Physive belongs right now, and he 520 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 3: still is going to be something dangerous and super special. 521 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 2: But I think he needed this sort of leveling up 522 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 2: moment where you hit where you level up, right. 523 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 3: I mean, he showed a lot of himself at a 524 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 3: very high level against his toughest opponent to date, but 525 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 3: he hit that ceiling in leveling up where Okay. 526 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 2: I gotta go back to the drawing board. I gotta 527 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 2: work on this. I gotta work on that. 528 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 3: The look the third round it turned more into a 529 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 3: Justin Geigee fight. And when it did and he could 530 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 3: strike at range, it was upper cut city. And you know, 531 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 3: does not only is Justin Gechie as he says, and 532 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 3: I agree with that, the most exciting fighter consistently in 533 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 3: the history of the sport. I don't think I've ever 534 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 3: enjoyed watching somebody mix, you know, a brawling, savage nature 535 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 3: with some technical craft and set up. You know, he's 536 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 3: a calculated destroyer, calculated brawler. The third round, when they 537 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 3: were at some very close range, that's that's exactly what 538 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 3: it was. But that second round, ultimately I thought, was 539 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 3: the swing and Gaichie gaining back not only the control 540 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 3: and the scorecards to win this fight, but the fight itself. 541 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 3: And what's interesting is Phaziv opened round two with a 542 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 3: kick that looked like it rock Geichee, and you know 543 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 3: you had that quick flash of like, we know when 544 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 3: that chin goes, boy, it's gonna go Chi held true, he's. 545 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 2: Stuck in there. 546 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 3: And when Phayzife slowed down just enough, you got to 547 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 3: really see where that craft of Gei Chee is, where 548 00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 3: it's not just going to come and through brawn crazy 549 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 3: And if it was, he probably would have gotten lit up. 550 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 3: But it was it was working some hard lave kicks, 551 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 3: which of course he's known for. His ability to land 552 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 3: explosively hardly kicks in close. 553 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 2: Range is particularly unique. 554 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 3: And you know, depending on your understanding or look back 555 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 3: on history, will will you go to bat one day 556 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 3: agreeing that he was one kick away from putting Abib 557 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 3: in peril in that lightweight title five. 558 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 2: It's up to you, right, it's up to you. 559 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 3: It's either the most ridiculous thing you ever heard, or hey, 560 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 3: I think adiab confirmed at one time. But that did 561 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 3: a lot to slow down a physigue who was starting 562 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 3: to kind of look around and go, man, I just 563 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,199 Speaker 3: hit this guy with some shit in round one and 564 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 3: he did. That Guy's not going anywhere. Getchee's still in 565 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 3: this and He had some interesting quotes afterwards, ultimately and 566 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 3: saying I've got one more I feel like I got 567 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 3: one more title run in me, but I'm not going 568 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 3: to be around a long time. And I actually liked 569 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 3: hearing that from him, because with the style of that 570 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 3: explosive and crazy that takes so much out of himself, 571 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:56,719 Speaker 3: you can't be around and if you are, you're going 572 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 3: to become a you know, a punching bag. 573 00:25:58,359 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 2: And I like to hear that. 574 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 3: A win this, this hard fought and earned against a 575 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 3: guy that dangerous and skilled and technically sound too from 576 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 3: the outside, He's gonna have another shot at probably winning 577 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 3: another fight that or two that are gonna put him 578 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 3: right back in that title picture. I think it's good 579 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 3: to see because when Gaechie can mix the violence with 580 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 3: the with the the Trevor Whitman coaching and just the 581 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 3: slight adjustments and just take a little bit off your 582 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 3: fastball here and do this, and here, he's dangerous, he's 583 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 3: hella dangerous. Did it help in this particular matchup that 584 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 3: we weren't going to the ground for the most part, Yes, 585 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 3: of course it did, because we see what happens to 586 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 3: Geigee at the super elite level when that lack of 587 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 3: ground game uh comes out to hurt him, and it 588 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 3: hurt him against Oliver, it hurt him against Habib. But 589 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 3: how about Justin Gage trying a takedown defense. I think 590 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 3: that was late in round two and it was his 591 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 3: only the second takedown attempt he's had in his entire 592 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 3: UFC run, as we talked about on Friday's MK show, 593 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 3: which is really ridiculous when you think about it, especially 594 00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 3: considering his amateur wrestling background. But score and successfully complete, 595 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 3: say take down late in round three, and you heard 596 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 3: that quote afterwards? 597 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 2: Do we have that quote, Michael Mormon perfect dance point. 598 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 2: There's no way this fight is not exciting. Got my takedown. 599 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 4: Nobody can shut the fuck helping him. 600 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, all of the critics, not the fans, all the 601 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 2: critics can shut the fuck up about those takedowns. I 602 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 2: like that. 603 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 3: That was funny to see ultimately. But you know, another 604 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 3: thing that Gayshi did in round two, which I think 605 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,360 Speaker 3: was key, was shortened up his strikes because in round 606 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,479 Speaker 3: one when there were most like Phizzie was so good 607 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 3: at keeping distance. In round one, keeping distance hop in 608 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 3: you know, I want to say almost Manny Pacio, like, 609 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 3: not the same sort of footwork patterns, but the idea 610 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 3: of let me get in land explosive shit and then 611 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 3: get out of there. You saw Justin Getchi winging a 612 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 3: lot of his hooks, which which you can do in 613 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 3: close range fights that are ultimately monoy mono battles. Phaziue 614 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 3: was moving too much to allow that. But the adjustments 615 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,479 Speaker 3: just In Gai made it in round two were not 616 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 3: just the calf strikes, which I think helped him slowing 617 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 3: down Phazive as his own stamina of a very high 618 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 3: paced and crazy dramatic round one. 619 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 2: And when I say high, I don't mean just a 620 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 2: lot of volume. 621 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 3: I mean a lot of dancing around each other tension 622 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 3: when you've got two knockout threats and there's that tension, 623 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 3: like sometimes the best fights aren't even batchit crazy, but 624 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 3: that constant threat of it. Think Deontay Wilder Tyson Fury 625 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 3: Part one right, that constant lingering threat that creates anxiety, 626 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 3: which equals. 627 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 2: Fatigue in a lot of ways. 628 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 3: That's why a lot of times pressure fighters remain pressure 629 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 3: fighters because just that constant threat of being in a 630 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 3: guy's face and just throwing you know, it can tire 631 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 3: somebody out mentally just as much physically. But in that 632 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 3: second round, when things were starting to get a little 633 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 3: bit more on even terms, Justin Gates shortened up those 634 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 3: punches and started started to wear on Physique. 635 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 2: A little bit more. 636 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 3: This was a hell of a good victory, a really 637 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 3: good victory that I didn't necessarily think he had he 638 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 3: had in him. 639 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 2: It's not too far removed from what I thought. 640 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 3: I thought Physique was gonna was gonna hold that distance 641 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 3: from the majority of it be in some tough back 642 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 3: and forth exchanges and he was, but ultimate use that. 643 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 2: But Geigy inevitable. 644 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 3: He's inevitable at luring you into some shit because if 645 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 3: you are quick and smart enough like Physigue was in 646 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 3: that first round, along with having the type of striking 647 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 3: that a couple of times it looked like Gaygee was wobbled. 648 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 2: That's great, but can you keep that up. 649 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 3: In rounds two, three, and then obviously in the championship 650 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 3: blow four and five where guys start to implode. That's 651 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 3: why the victories that Eddie Alvarez and Justin and sorry 652 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 3: that Dustin Poier had over the you know, one point 653 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 3: zero version of the highlight in the UFC. Right, the 654 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 3: guy that was in that spectacular war with Michael Johnson, 655 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 3: those victories where they like walked through the depths of 656 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 3: hell and met Justin Gaigie at his gnarliest and ultimately 657 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 3: stopped him. Like, there's a couple people on the planet 658 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 3: that can do that to that version of that guy, right, 659 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 3: you know, and he through the years of adding just 660 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 3: enough alteration to his game, even though he's he's crafty 661 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 3: and smarter, that equation is still mat that's it's still 662 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 3: there for you. If you're gonna fight him, you're gonna 663 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 3: use a lot of energy to stay away from him, 664 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 3: or you're gonna use a lot of your gas tank 665 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,959 Speaker 3: and your resistance standing with him, and he's gonna suffocate you. 666 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 3: And he did ultimately suffocate Phazive, but did it in 667 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 3: such a smart way that you gotta you gotta give 668 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 3: him a lot of a lot of credit there in 669 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 3: that regard. Still a factor in this lightweight title picture. 670 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 3: Still one of my favorite fighters of all time. And 671 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 3: if he's not yours, it's not in your top three. 672 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, re examine your life process. Surprisingly 673 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 3: quick win there for good and Nelson not that he 674 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 3: wouldn't have a huge advantage on the ground against buying Barberina, 675 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 3: and he got the arm bar finish with nine seconds 676 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 3: to go in round one. But with the long layoff, 677 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 3: you know, I was I was really ready to pick 678 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 3: against him. 679 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 2: I thought Barbarina could could make it a sort of 680 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 2: a war. 681 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 3: And I thought, you know, you heard those pre fight 682 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 3: comments from Gooder Nelson where he said like, I don't 683 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 3: look to win point fights. I don't look to win rounds. 684 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 3: I look to find the avenue to finish you and 685 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 3: go after that. I assumed here that that would be 686 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 3: to his not to his fit. When you're coming off 687 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 3: a long layoff and you're looking more to find something 688 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 3: against a durable opponent that isn't there, could you lose 689 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 3: a scorecard on activity alone. 690 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 2: I thought there was that potential there. 691 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 3: But Guda Nelson got back into focused shaved head, you know, 692 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 3: child muster mustache looking guy. 693 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 2: I mean, that's a director's insult. 694 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but you know, a guy with a mustache 695 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 3: like that with the bolts, what kind of looks like 696 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 3: he's driving one of those cargo vans with the curtains 697 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 3: in the windows. But man, quick, efficient performance and I 698 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 3: don't always get it right on okay, bet you know, 699 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 3: and more often I don't. But how about that gutsy 700 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 3: effort from Jennifer Maya to turn down the recent two 701 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 3: defeats at a very high level here against a tough 702 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 3: Casey O'Neil and just outboxer over three rounds and get 703 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 3: the decision. 704 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 2: Really like that performance. 705 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 3: Let's talk about the pay per view opener, though, because 706 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 3: I had big picture potential here in the middleweight division, 707 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 3: as Marvin Victory, who's been here at the highest level, 708 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 3: was taken on a real clumber here in Roman Dalize, 709 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 3: who big time, big time sickening power. But did he 710 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 3: have the well rounded game, did he have the stamina? 711 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 3: Did he have the ability to make the adjustments to 712 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 3: win a fight on this Even though I felt like 713 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 3: he was going in the other direction by the end 714 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 3: of the fight de led z meaning he was exhausted, 715 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 3: He's starting to get lit up with shots that he 716 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 3: wasn't always getting hit with early. I still thought he 717 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 3: won this fight, and I thought he won this fight 718 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 3: twenty nine to twenty eight in the end. But the 719 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 3: scorecards did I say there was going to be a 720 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 3: recurring theme? Can we show these scorecards, so that fell 721 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 3: on the right there as the yellow scorecard, and that's 722 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 3: Paul Sutherland. He scored this fight thirty twenty seven for Vittori. 723 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 3: And it's not that this fight wasn't close. 724 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 2: It was a very. 725 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 3: Interesting fight, very interesting chess match here. Outside of those 726 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 3: big shots that Delize landed in the opening round and oh, 727 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 3: by the way, there's some people and you know, you 728 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 3: can see the judges here. Ultimately they gave victory that 729 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 3: opening round because they felt outside of the big shots 730 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 3: that rocked him and blooded his nose from delieds that 731 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 3: Vittori ultimately did everything else better, and I think for 732 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 3: the most part he did. I couldn't give him around 733 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 3: one though, and I certainly couldn't give him all three rounds. 734 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 3: This is not a robbery anyway. I think that Paul 735 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 3: Sutherland scorecard. I tweeted that it's gross and the reality 736 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 3: is okay, Paul Sutherland's performance on the night. 737 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 2: I'll get to that round up in a second. That 738 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 2: was a little bit gross. 739 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 3: That scorecard is just a close fight that could have 740 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 3: gone either way. But I think a lot of us 741 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 3: watched that fight and we felt, hey, man, it could 742 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 3: have or should have been de LEDs A two to 743 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 3: one could have just as easily been Vittory two to one, 744 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 3: as you saw two of the judges scored. But let's 745 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 3: give a Tory a lot of credit. I don't think 746 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 3: he's ultimately fixed. The problem with him, and the problem 747 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 3: with him to me is what we said coming in. 748 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 3: He's a jack of all trades, master of none. He's 749 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 3: got warning trek power in every category, which means he's 750 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 3: not gonna get He's not typically unless he's fighting you know, 751 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 3: Whittaker or Adasania. He's not gonna get handled or manhandled 752 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 3: or dominated or lit up to a high degree. Although 753 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 3: you know it doesn't always have the best defense. It 754 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 3: comes in very aggressively, so he's there to be hit 755 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 3: in that regard, but in a fight against a guy 756 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 3: you don't want to. 757 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 2: Be there to be hit against. 758 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 3: And in the first round Victory learned that the adjustments 759 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 3: he made to just stand in a you know, to 760 00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 3: rely on his technique, get off with his jabs, avoid 761 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 3: the big shots, and bring this to the third round 762 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 3: where we're gonna find out exactly what Delidze had. You 763 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 3: got to give Victory a lot of credit for that. 764 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 3: He played the angles much better in round two. After 765 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 3: round one, I think he was a little overwhelmed by 766 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 3: that pace, by Delizie backing him up just by you know, 767 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 3: Delis doesn't overly set up his shots. 768 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 2: It's a lot of big time clubbing. 769 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 3: But that big time clubbing and bullying matters when it's 770 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 3: at a high pace and he's pushing you back into 771 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 3: the fence. 772 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 2: But you got to give a lot of. 773 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 3: Vittoria a lot of credit, Like, if Delis wasn't truly 774 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 3: ready for the top, Vittori should have been able to 775 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 3: beat him. And I think ultimately that's what he did, 776 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 3: even if I felt the Leeds should have had the 777 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 3: edge there. Roman turned it on to open the third round, 778 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 3: tried to get back to that bully beat down style, 779 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 3: put up a good face pace, but that gap between 780 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 3: the two of them and technique that played in the 781 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 3: advantage of it Tory. And that's what's interesting about him 782 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 3: is I don't think he fixed the problem that against 783 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 3: the very elite, he's not dangerous enough in anyone category'd 784 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 3: ultimately beat them. He's sort of inevitably set up to 785 00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 3: be stubborn, be competitive, but lose a a you know, 786 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 3: it lose a competitive but wide decision. Ultimately, when he's 787 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 3: facing the very best, it's those guys in the middle, 788 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 3: or those guys that want to be the best. Like 789 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 3: That's why there's some gatekeeper qualities to him, even though 790 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 3: it's an insult to him after this big win here. 791 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 3: But you know, he can usually rely on technique and 792 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 3: outpoint these guys. Some of those guys he can hurt 793 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 3: and get out of there. But I still would like 794 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 3: to see a commitment in one direction to really raising 795 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,240 Speaker 3: up his game, whether that's becoming more of a wrestler 796 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 3: or really looking to set up big power shots that 797 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 3: change the game more often. He had a big customer 798 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 3: against him, and he used technique, he pulled on the 799 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 3: gas tank, and overall it was a thorough performance. I 800 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 3: just think that third round they traded big time late. 801 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,399 Speaker 3: It could have gone either way. It was a close fight. 802 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 3: For Tory was the better technical fighter in this one, 803 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 3: and that's ultimately why the judges gave it to him 804 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 3: and he survives in advance. But I think for deledes A, 805 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:54,320 Speaker 3: it's certainly a okay, you know, hit my own ceiling 806 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 3: hair like Phayziev did. I got to figure some things out, 807 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,359 Speaker 3: But there's got to be a lot to like here 808 00:35:58,600 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 3: because this was a. 809 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 2: Fighter who had been around the UFC for a couple 810 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:01,399 Speaker 2: of years. 811 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 3: It traded wins and losses, but it was this past 812 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 3: calendar year of twenty twenty two and the three very 813 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 3: early and violent knockouts that it woke us up. He 814 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 3: can catch anybody on the right night if you if 815 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 3: you play k his style, or if he lures you 816 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:16,839 Speaker 3: into it, you know that could be trouble for you. 817 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,359 Speaker 2: But he does have and he's not young at. 818 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 3: All, came to the Sport Ladies thirty four years old. 819 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 3: He does have significant things to add and work on 820 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 3: to try to make another run at this and you 821 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 3: know there may. 822 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 2: Not be time, that may not be possible. 823 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,879 Speaker 3: But it's funny how this game goes because he could 824 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 3: have just as easily won this two to one. And 825 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,800 Speaker 3: then we're talking about, Okay, how high of an opponent 826 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 3: is he get? 827 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 2: Now? 828 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:38,879 Speaker 3: Is he getting a top five guy? Is he two 829 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 3: wins away from a title shot? One one big a 830 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 3: win away from a title shot? 831 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 2: What is it? Now? 832 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 3: He's got to go back to the drawing board. But 833 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 3: you know, but Tori, I don't see it's hard. 834 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 2: It's hard. You don't see a lot of elite guys 835 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 2: truly like this that are sort of like good in 836 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 2: every category but not great yet able to I mean, 837 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 2: you know, he works hard. You can see the conditioning there. 838 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 2: He's very dirt and I think that's all. 839 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,760 Speaker 3: Those two are probably the ultimately the things that separate 840 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 3: him from being an average fighter and being allowed in 841 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 3: this upper group. But can he figure out another gear 842 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,320 Speaker 3: to get ahead in that upper group? It's still it 843 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 3: still remains to be seen in the long run. Let's 844 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 3: bring back judge Paul Sutherland here. So to recap, he 845 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 3: had three particularly I don't want to say egregious necessarily, 846 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 3: but interesting moments. 847 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 2: The first one started in those prelimbs. 848 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 3: It was in the regular preliminary card and it was 849 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 3: a lightweight bout between Chris Duncan and Omar Morales. That 850 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 3: goes down as a split decision for Chris Duncan. Only 851 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 3: guess who had the dissenting scorecard, Paul Sutherland thirty to 852 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:44,240 Speaker 3: twenty seven for Omar Morales, who was the losing fighter 853 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,760 Speaker 3: in this one. Yeah, that one's not good. 854 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 2: Then he goes thirty twenty seven for Vittori, which again 855 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 2: it's either two to one either way for the most part. 856 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 2: Although you know, it's not lost on me. 857 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,919 Speaker 3: That there's an argument for victory in the first round. 858 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 3: It's not lost on me. But you have to give 859 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 3: him every benefit fit of the doubt in the entire 860 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 3: fight to score that one thirty to twenty seven. And 861 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,840 Speaker 3: then the Saint Paul Sutherland rocking that ten eight and 862 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 3: round three for Justin Gaegee, which was what made that 863 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 3: a a majority decision win and not an ultimate and 864 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 3: not at a unanimous So I mean, are these enough 865 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 3: to like, you know Stone, that man shame that I mean, 866 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 3: you know, no, he's not, He's not you know, Adelaide 867 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 3: Bird on the boxing side, although she's apparently welcome cage 868 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 3: side any times she wants. 869 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 2: You know, this isn't c J. Ross, This isn't what 870 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 2: Douglas Crosby. But that's not a that's really not a 871 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,240 Speaker 2: great showing altogether, just the same. 872 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 3: There, let's go up and down the thundercard a little 873 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 3: bit more on what we learned. Nice bounce back win 874 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 3: for Jack Shore and moving up and wait from bantam 875 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 3: weight and he's in there against Makwanamirkannie the second round 876 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:49,800 Speaker 3: rear naked choke submission. 877 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 2: He's smooth. 878 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 3: There's a nice element to him, and I know he 879 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,839 Speaker 3: had that loss against Simon that was a come down 880 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 3: to earth leveling moment for him in that regard. But 881 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,840 Speaker 3: went back to the lab, found a better weight class 882 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 3: for him. Wasn't facing a world beater here, but but 883 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 3: looked looked pretty good across the board. 884 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 2: Here's a little preview for mondays. Have you seen this ship? 885 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 3: How about debuting from Israel? Here yanal ash Maz a 886 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 3: Schmas look like a Schmas match in the end here 887 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 3: against a very hungry Sam Peterson. 888 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 2: Uh do we have this highlight here? 889 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 4: Michael Sam fights spoiled it? 890 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 2: Some good ship right there. There's certainly a name to circle. 891 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,399 Speaker 3: The size difference heightwise between them for a lightweight about 892 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,799 Speaker 3: was overwhelming. Patterson looked like at least the middleweight maybe more. 893 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 3: Ashmos standing across from looked like, you know, I don't 894 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 3: know freaking bann wait. 895 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 2: But he's compact, he's powerful. 896 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 3: That was a one minute and fifteen seconds and a 897 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 3: very eye opening performance. 898 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 2: But the fight before that, this was wild so flyway. 899 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 3: Muhammad Makayev is what just twenty two to twenty three 900 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 3: years old, twenty two years old. 901 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 2: From Dukistan nine and O coming in seems to. 902 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 3: Be dark horse, legitimate title contender in this division. It's 903 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 3: got a crapload of submissions coming in. He's taken on 904 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 3: a Joffell fuelhole from Brazil, Philo feel hole. I don't 905 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 3: want to butcher it to in soul anybody, but it's possible, 906 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,800 Speaker 3: you know, it's very possible. Can we show the picture 907 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 3: of the late in round three, Mokayev gets caught in 908 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 3: this knee bar and yeah, that's painful, that's nasty, that's uh, 909 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,959 Speaker 3: I'm not sure if he'll ever walk again. Potential there 910 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 3: Sean Cheehan, who also had that tweet right there then 911 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 3: pretty much had the tweet of the night. Apologies if 912 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 3: this offends anybody more than my child molester van joke earlier. 913 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,799 Speaker 3: But yeah, that's Mokayev celebrating the wind because the same 914 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 3: guy that got his knee jacked up turn that fight 915 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,720 Speaker 3: around into a neck crank submission there with just twenty 916 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 3: eight seconds. 917 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,800 Speaker 2: To go in the fight. That was wild. 918 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 3: That was wild that Makayav looked like he was on 919 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 3: his way to winning that fight. Anyway, there was a 920 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:20,760 Speaker 3: bunch of submission threats from both. 921 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:21,760 Speaker 2: Of them in that third round. 922 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 3: But for him to score that and you know he 923 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,760 Speaker 3: could barely stand after the win, yet he's still jumping 924 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,319 Speaker 3: up on the cage and celebrating. That's somebody to watch 925 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 3: it flyway moving forward, That young got that dominant wrestling ability, 926 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 3: that high motor just goes after it. But under that 927 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 3: type of perseverance in danger to turn that around is 928 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 3: that's some gnarly frickin' shit right there. The rest of 929 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:47,320 Speaker 3: that early card, you know, there's a lot of bollocks 930 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,279 Speaker 3: in there. It's an interesting Ji Herbert Ludvoyit Klein fight 931 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,399 Speaker 3: that could have gone either way. There was Herbert get 932 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 3: that majority of decision win in the end. That saves 933 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,839 Speaker 3: part of Luke Thomas's Okay bat campaign. Looking to not 934 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 3: go zero to five again this week. But let's talk 935 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,319 Speaker 3: about the front of the program to kick it off. 936 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 3: Felt good to see Veronica Hardy nay Maceto come. 937 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 2: In here three years removed from her last fight. 938 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, she got married Dan Hardy and he's in her corner, 939 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,919 Speaker 3: and you know, I think the commentary team rightfully played 940 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 3: up what that meant to her in terms of the 941 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 3: you know, the education and the time she put into 942 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,840 Speaker 3: the to the gym during this long layoff. But the 943 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 3: layoff was injury fueled, and it was also she had 944 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 3: some it turns out severe concussion issues for a while 945 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,319 Speaker 3: and took a long stretch of time off and you know, 946 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:33,880 Speaker 3: you know, when you're in that spot, you're sort of 947 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 3: contemplating your future. But three years removed, now twenty seven 948 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 3: faces the always aggressive and fun Julianna Killer Miller. 949 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 2: And you know, I over, I mean Looke did too. 950 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 2: Luke picked Juliana. 951 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 3: Miller to win this by submission in r okay bet 952 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,239 Speaker 3: and I you know, I had big, big hopes here 953 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 3: for Miller to come in and make a lot of noise. 954 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 3: She's got a fun personality of very aggressive style. But 955 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,760 Speaker 3: for all the good that she showed on the ground, 956 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,360 Speaker 3: particularly of course her Ultimate Fighter victory, this is a 957 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 3: big regression in terms of her performance. It was raw, 958 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,279 Speaker 3: it was sloppy at times. She got into trouble a lot. 959 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 3: You heard the announced teems sort of questioning her decision making, 960 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 3: even on her jiu jitsu setups in the end. 961 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,319 Speaker 2: But I think a lot of what she thought she 962 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 2: would be effective with Veronica Hardy just stood in there. 963 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 3: That's a Greaty performance to be off that long and 964 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,319 Speaker 3: then to go fifteen hard minutes in a fight. And 965 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:26,560 Speaker 3: even though you know Hardy largely dominated this fight, there 966 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,880 Speaker 3: were some close moments of submission attempts, some clean punching 967 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:30,960 Speaker 3: from Miller from distance. 968 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 2: But this is a humbling loss. 969 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 3: And I guess it's not her UFC debut officially because 970 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 3: that would be the tough finale win, but you know, 971 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,799 Speaker 3: humbling in that regard because she does have a lot 972 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:42,959 Speaker 3: to work on after this. But Veronica Hardy, I don't 973 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,280 Speaker 3: know long term, if she can stay active and stay healthy, 974 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 3: what she can be at one twenty five. But the 975 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,840 Speaker 3: human spirit of her coming back. Congratulations And you know 976 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,400 Speaker 3: the Hardy's are a friend of this program, you know, 977 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 3: so congratulations Dan in the corner there. I like the 978 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:01,800 Speaker 3: addition of Bisping on the commentary because of that English connection, 979 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,239 Speaker 3: the first British champion there and all that, but I 980 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,399 Speaker 3: don't like him on the on the pay per view 981 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,400 Speaker 3: broadcast as much. I think he's better in the studio. 982 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,920 Speaker 3: Maybe I'm alone on that great on the podcast, amazing personality. 983 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 3: I don't think he meshes well with DC ultimately, is 984 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 3: really where I'm going with that. 985 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,160 Speaker 2: I don't think Rogan does either. I think what they've 986 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:21,880 Speaker 2: got to figure out is they got John Anick. 987 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 3: He's the best in the game, and you know, if 988 00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 3: he keeps this up, he's going to be the best 989 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,200 Speaker 3: of all time at this uh in Knick martial arts. 990 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,319 Speaker 3: And that's saying a lot you know more n now 991 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,359 Speaker 3: is in this picture, right. I mean, you know, you can, 992 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,440 Speaker 3: like Luke Offen says, moral might be the best of 993 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 3: all time considering the flexibility of combat, discipline and the 994 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,359 Speaker 3: ability to be such a leading man. But they got 995 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,800 Speaker 3: the right guy in John, and I like d C 996 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,280 Speaker 3: in that role. And he's not outside of the wrestling. 997 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,760 Speaker 3: He's not always going to give you the the most 998 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,320 Speaker 3: in depth analysis, But I think you need an entertainer 999 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:52,600 Speaker 3: in there. I think that's why a lot of ways 1000 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,920 Speaker 3: Rogan has worked so well through the years. Even though 1001 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 3: Rogan obviously really knows his stuff in certain and most 1002 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,799 Speaker 3: you know, disciplines of the game, and certainly you know 1003 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,440 Speaker 3: a factor in his own right in taekwondo, but. 1004 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,520 Speaker 2: Pairing them together it becomes too much of a watch 1005 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,279 Speaker 2: along party. You need one. And I like d C 1006 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:10,799 Speaker 2: in that role. 1007 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,760 Speaker 3: I think he's you know, he's got that of America's 1008 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 3: you know, huggabule bear feeling going and and and he 1009 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 3: can raise the the wow factor, you know, the sound 1010 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 3: effect factor in the big moment. I think they got 1011 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 3: to figure out who should be that consistent third, because 1012 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,480 Speaker 3: I think that third should be a student of the game. 1013 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:30,279 Speaker 2: It should really be. 1014 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 3: And it's not that when you pair Rogan and DC 1015 00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,400 Speaker 3: together or bisping in this stance, and that the two 1016 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,359 Speaker 3: of them combined don't know what they're talking about. They do, 1017 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,440 Speaker 3: but is it a consistently you know, does does it 1018 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:41,279 Speaker 3: work in their roles? 1019 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,840 Speaker 2: It's hard to do. I love, you know, sports broadcasting. 1020 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,359 Speaker 3: We always have, even long before I ever believed that 1021 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:49,960 Speaker 3: I could actually do this, you know, I sort of 1022 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:50,480 Speaker 3: studied it. 1023 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,000 Speaker 2: Had my favorite announcers in every sport. Loved it. 1024 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,319 Speaker 3: Not easy, not easy to play a role, you know, 1025 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 3: if you go from a two man booth to a 1026 00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,440 Speaker 3: three man booth, not not easy at all. I give 1027 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,920 Speaker 3: anyone who as this and I'm trying myself to make 1028 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 3: a career out of it. Looke the same and it's 1029 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:05,800 Speaker 3: and it's the most fun thing you could. 1030 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 2: In this game. It's I mean, it's a it's a 1031 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:09,799 Speaker 2: druggun to itself. It's the most fun thing you can do. 1032 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:11,040 Speaker 2: But I do think you. 1033 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,719 Speaker 3: Need the entertaining guy, and I do think you need that, 1034 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,160 Speaker 3: you know, and you can play different roles sometimes on 1035 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,640 Speaker 3: fight broadcast, I play the role of not being an 1036 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 3: ex fighter or trainer or having a ton of training experience. 1037 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,400 Speaker 3: I can play the role more of narrative pusher and 1038 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,160 Speaker 3: and you know, and more of the more of the 1039 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 3: mindset side of it and all that. But you got 1040 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,040 Speaker 3: to have the technical person. I just don't think there's 1041 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,319 Speaker 3: anyone better than Dom Cruz at it right now. Dan 1042 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,719 Speaker 3: Hardy's really good, he's with the PFL. Now Dunker's really good. 1043 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,400 Speaker 3: And you know you can say, is that is he 1044 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 3: too rigid at times? Well, hey, you pair them with DC. 1045 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,480 Speaker 3: It's fun right as you can poke each other in 1046 00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:49,320 Speaker 3: the belly, one more rotn than the other and. 1047 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 2: H and you can have that. 1048 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,319 Speaker 3: But I just didn't love that trio tonight ultimately is 1049 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:53,319 Speaker 3: really what I'm trying to say. 1050 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,840 Speaker 2: But A big fan of businessing the personality and I 1051 00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 2: mean he won a world championship with one eye? Can 1052 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,800 Speaker 2: you take that away from him? So did Joe Frazier, 1053 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:03,879 Speaker 2: by the way, crazy right. They ended up finding out 1054 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,680 Speaker 2: the heavyweight legend years later that he really only had 1055 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 2: the use of. 1056 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:08,919 Speaker 3: One I throughout his entire career. Like when you find 1057 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,239 Speaker 3: stuff like that out, I know, biz Ping's there was 1058 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,800 Speaker 3: a turning point where it happened. But that's wild, that's wild. 1059 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,759 Speaker 2: What a night though? What a night? I mean, I 1060 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,799 Speaker 2: don't know, are you still watching this? My only one 1061 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 2: in here? 1062 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,279 Speaker 3: That's the question right now. You know, I'm sure you 1063 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 3: want Luke Thomas's thoughts. I'm sure he'll be back on 1064 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaker 3: Monday's Morning Combat and we'll chop it all up. 1065 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:26,840 Speaker 2: You know. 1066 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,319 Speaker 3: Maybe you know sometimes he'll surprise you on his own 1067 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,640 Speaker 3: personal channel too, despite my constant requests to stop, you know, 1068 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,279 Speaker 3: I mean, let's put this brand first, now, go for it. 1069 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:36,360 Speaker 2: Charge those people. 1070 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,600 Speaker 3: Hey, by the way, speaking of charging people for stuff, 1071 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,480 Speaker 3: I'm on Cameo now, I don't know how that happened, 1072 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,200 Speaker 3: but uh cameo dot com slash Brian Campbell. 1073 00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,919 Speaker 2: Okay, don't don't uh don't hesitate to reach out. 1074 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,640 Speaker 3: You know, you want to shout out there. You want 1075 00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,279 Speaker 3: to you want me to sing nineties tunes. Whatever you 1076 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 3: got there, all right, we can all we can all 1077 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:53,120 Speaker 3: have our side hustles. 1078 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,359 Speaker 2: They're just the same. Luke Thomas though will be back. 1079 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,920 Speaker 2: You can follow those socials below. But you know, your 1080 00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:58,560 Speaker 2: boy BC. 1081 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,160 Speaker 3: For better or worse, just just spend an hour with you. 1082 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,239 Speaker 3: And it was fun watching these fights UFC two eighty six. 1083 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,399 Speaker 2: Leon Edwards he's the guy. 1084 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:12,399 Speaker 3: He's the freaking guys good as when man, he's absolutely back. 1085 00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 3: He's that man, you know, and it's let's let me 1086 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,279 Speaker 3: admit you because you know a lot of people go, oh, BC, yeah, yeah, 1087 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,239 Speaker 3: you know you I heard. You know, even though you 1088 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,279 Speaker 3: give him their flowers, you're still heading and you're still 1089 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 3: saying usman that did didn't do this and this, You're 1090 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:24,960 Speaker 3: still not trying to give him the love. 1091 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,520 Speaker 2: I'm trying to give him the love here he deserves it. 1092 00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,279 Speaker 3: I did think it was interesting on like early in 1093 00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,840 Speaker 3: the broadcast when when Cormier is like, you know, tonight 1094 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,960 Speaker 3: we'll have you know, two of the all time greatest 1095 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 3: welter weights of all time squaring off against one another, 1096 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 3: and you know, I was like, we got one of them, 1097 00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,720 Speaker 3: and Leon Edwards comes out in defensive title and shuts 1098 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:46,399 Speaker 3: me the hell up. 1099 00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,080 Speaker 2: He's freaking good. He's that good. He really is. I 1100 00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:51,560 Speaker 2: mean all time great. I don't know about that, but 1101 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:51,800 Speaker 2: he is. 1102 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,640 Speaker 3: See it's that good right now in this moment. Mike 1103 00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,120 Speaker 3: Morma behind the scenes, thank you for pressing the buttons. 1104 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,160 Speaker 2: We made it. We made it to the end of this. 1105 00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:02,560 Speaker 2: Onward and upward, folks. 1106 00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:06,440 Speaker 3: We transition in the Morning Combat space from UFC two 1107 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,839 Speaker 3: eighty six this week. Of course, UFC be back next 1108 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 3: weekend with a fantastic vandam Wait Cheeto Vera Corey Sanhagen 1109 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,880 Speaker 3: match up there in San Antonio, and we'll also have 1110 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:17,640 Speaker 3: show time. 1111 00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:21,439 Speaker 2: Pay per view, kayleab Plant David Benavite. So we're gonna 1112 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,719 Speaker 2: we're gonna shift the gears forward. 1113 00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,880 Speaker 3: Look back on Monday's MK show, set the stage and 1114 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,520 Speaker 3: then drive it forward. We're hitting Vegas, big top boxing. 1115 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:31,600 Speaker 2: Can't miss it. 1116 00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,560 Speaker 3: Two guys that hate each other, don't miss that. If 1117 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,360 Speaker 3: you're an MME fan, you don't even touch the box. 1118 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,080 Speaker 3: You know, you don't even know what step three is. 1119 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,600 Speaker 3: You know, open the box, then you know, put put 1120 00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:41,839 Speaker 3: the put the thing in. I mean that's what they 1121 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:43,800 Speaker 3: used to say, right put the thing in the box. 1122 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,040 Speaker 3: This is a boxing match. You do you need to 1123 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:50,480 Speaker 3: see kayleb Plant, David Benavite Ish hop blooded check. 1124 00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,000 Speaker 2: In and see right you got fever of one hundred 1125 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:53,399 Speaker 2: and three. 1126 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,960 Speaker 3: Right, yeah, yeah, I mean you know what am I 1127 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:56,560 Speaker 3: doing right now? 1128 00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:56,799 Speaker 2: Right? 1129 00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,680 Speaker 3: I got a UFC's Ultimate beat Downs here, Volume one, 1130 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,360 Speaker 3: courtesy of the great guys over there at may On 1131 00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,840 Speaker 3: Point in the UK. Shout out to my guy Bailey, 1132 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,719 Speaker 3: and they're nicely done there. All right, I found my 1133 00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,680 Speaker 3: hotel room key again, r d A and Conor McGregor. 1134 00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:16,080 Speaker 3: I this is arguably my favorite piece of generic memorabilia 1135 00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:17,839 Speaker 3: that I own, you know what I mean, maybe maybe 1136 00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,520 Speaker 3: with the exception of this, uh leo, Santa Cruz had 1137 00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:24,200 Speaker 3: been so uh you know, my name is Brian Campbell. 1138 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:25,759 Speaker 2: We just chopped it up. 1139 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,280 Speaker 3: Let me go, put my sweats back on, enjoy yourself 1140 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:36,279 Speaker 3: the rest of the weekend. And you know, I was 1141 00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,640 Speaker 3: going to try to close with some you know, some 1142 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,840 Speaker 3: interesting life advice, but you know, am. 1143 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:42,239 Speaker 2: I I mean, look at me, right, you know what 1144 00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,879 Speaker 2: I mean? All right, we're out of here. Thanks,