1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: Welcome on this Tuesday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. 2 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: The number one story remains what is going to happen 3 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: in Iran? And President Trump has sent very strong suggestions 4 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: that this is going to be winding down very very soon, 5 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: and as a result, the stock market is surging today. 6 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:30,479 Speaker 1: As Trump has said, Look, the reality is the United 7 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: States is not particularly reliant on oil and gas arriving 8 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 1: through the strait of horror moves, and as a result, 9 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: it is not the responsibility of the United States to 10 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: be the world's policeman as it pertains to oil and 11 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: gas being able to come through. Early morning press conference 12 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: from Pete Hegseth basically letting it be known that there 13 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: are still a lot of different options, and I thought 14 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: most interestingly Buck saying, actually, regime change did occur. Now 15 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: we still don't officially, at least publicly know who is 16 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: going to be running things from Iran. But Pete Haggseth 17 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: this morning in a press conference from the Pentagon said 18 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: regime change has happened, and then if Iran is not 19 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: willing to make a deal, we'll continue to rain down 20 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: holy hell upon them. This is what that sounded like. 21 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: Cut five If ran is wise, they will cut a deal. 22 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: President Trump doesn't bluff and he does not back down. 23 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 2: You can ask Kamanian about that. The new Iranian regime 24 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: should know that by now, this new regime, because regime 25 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 2: change has occurred, should be wiser than the last. President 26 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 2: Trump will make a deal. He is willing, and the 27 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: terms of the deal are known to them. If Iran 28 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: is not willing, then the United States War Department will 29 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: continue with even more intensity. 30 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: So that was Pete hag Seth point one. The other 31 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: one is President Trump. It quite explicit, as Pete hag 32 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: Seth's said in a choreographed truth posting this morning, listen 33 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 1: to Pete hag Seth, Secretary of War, analyze what President 34 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: Trump said cut six. I think the. 35 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:15,679 Speaker 2: President was clear this morning. It is truth that there 36 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: are countries around the world who ought be prepared to 37 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 2: step up on this critical waterway as well. It's not 38 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 2: just the United States Navy. 39 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: Last time I checked, there was supposed. 40 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: To be a big, bad Royal Navy that could be 41 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: prepared to do things like that as well. So he's 42 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 2: pointing out this is an international waterway that we use 43 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 2: less than most, in fact, dramatically less than most, so 44 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 2: the world ought pay attention to be prepared to stand up. 45 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 2: President Trump's been willing to do the heavy lifting on 46 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: behalf of the free world to address this threat of Iran. 47 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 2: It's not just our problem set going forward, even though 48 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 2: we have done the lion's share of preparation to ensure 49 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 2: that that straight will be open, which is an outcome 50 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 2: the President's been very clear on. 51 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: Okay, balk. My biggest takeaway here as I analyze everything 52 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: about what the President and what Pete hag Seth, Secretary 53 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: of War said, is it feels to me like Trump 54 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: is looking for a way to kind of deliver a 55 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: coup de gras of sorts and just say we're out 56 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 1: a drop the mic moment that he proclaims as victory 57 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: and is able to step out and then in theory, 58 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: gas prices return to normalcy. The stock market, as you 59 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: are seeing today is buying into that idea, as it 60 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: is surging very much. Is that your analysis of where 61 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: we are? How would you analyze the latest statements on 62 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 1: Iran from the President and Pete hag Seth. 63 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 3: Well, first up here is his truth that he put out. 64 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 3: It is called the truth, not a tweet. Technically all 65 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 3: of those countries that can't get jet fuel because of 66 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 3: the straight of horror moves, like the United Kingdom, which 67 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 3: refused to get involved in the decapitation of Iran. I 68 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 3: have a suggestion for you. Number one, buy from the 69 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 3: US we have plenty, and number two, build up some 70 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 3: delayed courage, go to the Strait and just take it 71 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 3: all caps. You'll have to start learning how to fight 72 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 3: for yourself. The USA won't be there to help you anymore, 73 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 3: just like you weren't there for US. Iran has been 74 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 3: essentially decimated. The hard part is done. Get go, get 75 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 3: your own oil. President Donald J. Trump, no, thank you 76 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 3: for your attention in this matter. So I guess he's 77 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 3: just had enough of people expecting him to always thank 78 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 3: them for the attention. Clay Trump wants the straight open, 79 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 3: and I think to move on from this as soon 80 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 3: as possible. So if the straight opens up, if there's 81 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 3: some agreement with Iran that allows the administration to say, 82 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 3: you know what, we're able to now stop the continuous 83 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 3: air strikes, they'll take that off ramp. I think very 84 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 3: quickly and yeah, yeah, go ahead. 85 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 1: No, I think that builds in to me what is 86 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: being sought. Here is an opportunity that feels significant that 87 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: President Trump can take as the climactic action that demon 88 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: straits this entire operation is over. And I think the 89 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: way the stock market is reacting today is that that 90 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: is sooner rather than later. You said you thought April one, 91 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: we're sitting here at March thirty. First, I think I 92 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: said by middle of middle of April at the latest. 93 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 1: So we're very much in agreement in general with the 94 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 1: timing here. And it feels to me like that this 95 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: is Trump signifying to everybody, Hey, most of this work 96 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: is done. I also think buck It factors in a 97 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: bit for this possibility. Israel may not be done, and 98 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: it may be the case that we begin to step 99 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 1: back from the perspective of the United States military action, 100 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: and that as a result, Israel is in many ways 101 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 1: operating on their own timeline, which might be a bit 102 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: different than ours. 103 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 3: That would be I think that would be a big 104 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 3: problem because if we if Iran doesn't create a choke 105 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 3: point at the Strait, if Iron basically says we agree 106 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 3: we will not hit any oil tankers in the Strait, 107 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 3: or any ships at all for that matter, and then 108 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 3: Israel continues air strikes. I think Iron's gonna say, hold 109 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 3: on a second, this is our leverage. So I think 110 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 3: the Israelis have to cut it. If we cut it 111 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 3: as well, they can't continue on with the campaign unless 112 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 3: they want to be in a position where essentially the 113 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 3: United States will have a cease fire of sorts and 114 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 3: the Israelis will continue the conflict. I think that's a 115 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 3: very tough look for the Israelis if that, if that 116 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 3: were to go down that pathway. So in the meantime, 117 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 3: we're hoping that they end this thing as quickly as 118 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 3: possible and that gas price is normalized and all these 119 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 3: things allow us to move on. A Secretary of War 120 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 3: hag Seth, has been very clear that he thinks we 121 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 3: are close to this being done. And in terms of 122 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 3: the boots on the ground situation, we didn't play eight yet, 123 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 3: did we Clack. I think this is important. This is 124 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 3: the big we are not here. He is talking about 125 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 3: boots on the ground and how this is about options 126 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 3: and getting to the desired outcome. It's not telegraphing or 127 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 3: making promises in advance of a negotiation with the enemy. 128 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: Play eight. 129 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 2: As far as President Trump and boots on the ground. 130 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 2: I don't understand why the base, which they have already 131 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 2: they understand, wouldn't. 132 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: Have faith in his ability to execute on this. 133 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 2: Look at his track record pursuing peace through strength America 134 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 2: first outcomes what he's simply saying, and it's exactly true. 135 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 2: And I've said from this podium too, We're not going 136 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 2: to foreclose any option. You can't fight and win a 137 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 2: war if you tell your adversary what you are willing 138 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 2: to do or what you are not willing to do, 139 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 2: to include boots on the ground. Our adversary right now 140 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 2: thinks there are fifteen different ways we could come at 141 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 2: them with boots on the ground, and guess what there are, 142 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 2: So if we needed to, we could execute those options 143 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 2: on behalf of the President, the United States, and this department. 144 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 2: Or maybe we don't have to use them at all, 145 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 2: maybe negotiations work, or maybe there's a different approach. The 146 00:07:58,240 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 2: point is to be unpredictable. 147 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 3: In that Clay, he's basically saying, trust and Trump. Yeah, 148 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 3: that's the strategy. Trust and Trump. He knows what he's doing. 149 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 3: We're gonna get to the other side of this. And 150 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 3: I'm getting the sense still that most Republicans. Democrats I 151 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 3: can't wait because they hate Trump and you know that 152 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 3: they're But most Republicans I think are still in the 153 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 3: trust in Trump phase because other than a spike in 154 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 3: gas price, is what is the loss that would turn 155 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 3: them against Trump so much? I don't think it's there. 156 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 3: And even the boots on the ground possibility right now 157 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 3: is being used as leverage. It's not actually happening. 158 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's where Democrats get lost. Still with Trump, 159 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: he throws out a variety of different perspectives, and again, 160 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 1: I think one of the most successful things Trump has 161 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: done is keep Iran on its toes and not aware 162 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: of what's going to happen. He caught them by surprise 163 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: on the June attack when we bombed initially. He clearly 164 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: caught them by surprise when they took out the Ayatola 165 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: and so Iran right now is sort of on their 166 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: trying to assess what's likely to end up happening, and 167 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: I don't think there's an easy answer as to what 168 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: exactly they are able to do. I will say there's 169 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: a ton of vehicles, ton of boats moving through the 170 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: Strait of Horror moves today, which is the highest level 171 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: of boat traffic that we have seen in basically a month, 172 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 1: and I do think that that is ah that is 173 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,079 Speaker 1: a tacit sign that some elements of Iran have been 174 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: telling the oil and gas community, hey, we are okay 175 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: with having you being able to transit, and we're not 176 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: necessarily going to attack you. Remember, the Strait of hor 177 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: Moves is Iran cutting its own throat, because the only 178 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: way this regime has any money at all is from 179 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: sending their oil and gas through the Strait of Horror Moves. 180 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 1: And so if Iran is bombing, you could say, yes, 181 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: well they could let their own fleet go through and 182 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: they could bomb other boats, which I guess is a 183 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: possibility there, but I think that's going to be a 184 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: hard distinction to make, and that ultimately, the fact that 185 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: we're seeing way more ships go through and transit, I 186 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: think buck is actually a sign that Iran is trying 187 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: to prove to Trump that he is negotiating with people 188 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: who do in fact control decision making in Iran, and 189 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: whether or not ships are allowed to go through is 190 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: a sign of this regime having some control the new regime, 191 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 1: because remember, theoretically Little Mo, the son of the Ayatola 192 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 1: is in charge, but we still have no idea where 193 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: he is or who is making decisions. 194 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 3: And most of them maybe gay. We're told yes, which 195 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 3: made an interesting twist of fate that we were told 196 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 3: this by the president himself. And then I think Trump 197 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 3: said that, you know, not that there's anything wrong with that, 198 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 3: that's right, but he basically would be something wrong with 199 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 3: that in Iran to be clear, Little Mo, you would 200 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 3: think would have a problem if everybody knew that. So 201 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 3: that might have been an information operation of some sort 202 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 3: to just get that out there, because I think it's 203 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 3: hard to run a mulacracy if they think that you're 204 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 3: actually a gay guy. Yes, that is a tough position 205 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 3: to be in and Iran and President Trump, I thought 206 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,079 Speaker 3: kind of did talked about that in the humorous way 207 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 3: as we played for everybody on the five when he 208 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 3: called in and he was asked directly, did the CIA 209 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 3: tell you that he may the leader may be gay? 210 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 3: And he basically went full Seinfeld, not that there's anything 211 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 3: wrong with that. Okay, we will take some of your calls. 212 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 3: We got a loaded guest list. Isabel Brown is going 213 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 3: to join us. She got ripped on the view for 214 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 3: having the incredibly controversial opinion that it's good to get 215 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 3: married and have kids and you should do it. 216 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: Babies are good, babies, You're good have them. Congressman chip 217 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: Roy is going to join us. He'll give us the 218 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: latest from Capitol Hill on the chaos there as the 219 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: Senate has abandoned town and the House is still trying 220 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: to get things done. And then Buck, I'm super excited 221 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: for this. The head of NASA, Jared Isaacman, is going 222 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: to join us, as NASA is poised to launch a 223 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: sort of a circle I think of the Moon tomorrow 224 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: as part of the new goal to put a colony 225 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: on the Moon, which is for those of us out 226 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: there that are kind of a little bit interested in 227 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: space or sci fi, a new, unique, and I think 228 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 1: achievable goal. But he is the head of NASA, and 229 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: he'll be on with us in the third hour of 230 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: the program. Bottom of that hour, I think we'll have 231 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: a fun conversation with him. 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Find them 251 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 1: on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your 252 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: podcasts and welcome back. 253 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 3: In here too, Clay and Buck. We've got a lot 254 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 3: to get into today. Even had a very instant Supreme 255 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 3: Court decision come down and Clay we haven't talked yet 256 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 3: about the birthright citizenship Supreme Court oral arguments that have happened. 257 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 3: That is a big one. That is one of the 258 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 3: probably will be. I don't know is there a bigger 259 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,719 Speaker 3: Supreme Court case of this term for at least the 260 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 3: Trump administration and policy to consider them that one. So 261 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 3: we've got a lot of things happening and going on. 262 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,719 Speaker 3: I will tell you today, Clay, that I am this 263 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 3: is in the not as big of a thing, but 264 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 3: I am in a Pombeach area today and I saw 265 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 3: our friends from Tunnel to Towers last night, saw Frank Stiller, 266 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 3: saw mister Sean Hannity, Dennis Quaid was there. 267 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: Good golfer often at the Tunnel the Towers events. 268 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 3: He's good golfer. See I have to, I have to. 269 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 3: You're the golf by the way, they all ask me, 270 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 3: They're like, what are you gonna learn golf? Because you're 271 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 3: our golf representative of the show. I don't play. I 272 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 3: don't understand why can't there be tennis charity events like this, 273 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 3: Like it's. 274 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: Always golf every You need old guys that don't have 275 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: to have a lot of athleticism to be able to 276 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: do things for a long time, and golf is the 277 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: one that you can hang on to for longer than 278 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: most sports, I think is the easy answer. 279 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 3: This is probably a time to admit because we're gonna 280 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 3: talk a lot about serious stuff in Iran and world 281 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 3: peace and the economy and everything in a moment here. 282 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 3: You know, I've been nursing a little bit of an 283 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 3: injury on my arm, and people it's actually technically tennis elbow, 284 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 3: and people have been saying, well, you must have gotten 285 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 3: this from tennis, no clay. It's worse than that. I 286 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 3: got it from padel. What is padel, you might ask, 287 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 3: I wonder how many of you have even heard of this. 288 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 3: Padel is a sports ball game that is incredibly popular, 289 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 3: particularly in Latin America and parts of Latin America and Europe. 290 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 3: It was invented in Mexico. It is most probably common, 291 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 3: or like most beloved in Spain. Actually, it's rapidly growing 292 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 3: all over the world. It's a little bit like tennis 293 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 3: mixed with squash, mixed with pickleball, I think, all together 294 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 3: into one. Uh, and that is how I got injured. 295 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 3: But I will tell you we're gonna It's enormously popular 296 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 3: in Miami. I had never even heard of it until 297 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 3: I moved to Miami. There's pidel place is opening all 298 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 3: over the place. We're gonna have to get you on 299 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 3: a Padel court. I've realized this is We're gonna have 300 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 3: to get some video Clay does Padel. 301 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: This feels this feels like your pistachio ice cream take. 302 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: Although I will say the fact that it's popular in 303 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: Latin America, this feels like a very uh what was 304 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: like a very bougie way to to to play sports? 305 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: Would this be the this is the anti football? Is 306 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: that a fair way? Uh? Anti American football sport? If 307 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: you had to select one. 308 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 3: It's a lot of a lot of Latin's Latin American 309 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 3: folks or Americans of Latin descent that I know who 310 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 3: play this also play polo. 311 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: So I think that tells you something. Yeah, that's super 312 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: I wouldn't even think of polo because it's so high end. 313 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: I don't even nobody's ever invited me, thankfully, to get 314 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: on a horse and try to hit ride a round 315 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: and hit something. 316 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 3: But I have to stop making fun of a disaster. 317 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 3: I have to stop making fun of producer Ali and 318 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 3: pickleball now. Because I've I've crossed over and started playing Padel. 319 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 3: So this is this is my thing now I want 320 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 3: to have I want to do a Padel fundraiser for 321 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 3: like Tunnel the Towers, because there'll be a lot of 322 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 3: super rich guys from Latin America and Spain and stuff 323 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 3: who can be there and can write checks because I 324 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 3: can't golf. You are a golf representative. How would you 325 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 3: describe your golf swing? I would describe it as. 326 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: Awful. To h to sum it up in one word, 327 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: it would be it's a little bit better than Charles 328 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: Barkley's golf swing. But but I would describe it as 329 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 1: awful on a basic level. 330 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 3: How much what is your handicap? If we're going with 331 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 3: all of them, I think I would be like a twenty. 332 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 3: You know, I don't get to play that much. 333 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: I am. 334 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 3: I am not a good golfer, well better than me. 335 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 3: And they were like, where's Clay? We need someone to 336 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 3: actually play golf. 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That's pound two five zero say Clay 355 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 3: and Buck switched to America's wireless company, pure Talk. 356 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: Welcome back in the Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We 357 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: got some great guests coming your way in the next 358 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: couple of hours, but we have got tomorrow. Buck. You 359 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 1: mentioned that the Supreme Court is going to be hearing 360 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: oral arguments on whether birthright citizenship should or should not 361 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: be the law of the land. And look, I'm not 362 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: optimistic that the Supreme Court is going to be willing 363 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: to do what I think they should do, which is 364 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 1: say that this whole concept of that citizenship by soil 365 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 1: as opposed to citizenship by blood, which we'll get into 366 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: some tomorrow, is going to be really interesting to hear 367 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: how those questions come down. But in the meantime, we 368 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 1: did have a Supreme Court ruling that came down eight 369 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: to one a little bit earlier today, right before in fact, 370 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 1: we came on the air eight to one Supreme Court 371 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 1: ruling saying that a law in Colorado which tried to 372 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: ban conversion therapy, which we'll get into a bit was unconstitutional. 373 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 1: The only justice that lined up and said, hey, I 374 00:19:55,480 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: think this ban was constitutional was Katanji Brown, and even 375 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: Elena Kagan went after Katanji Brown Jackson, who filed a 376 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: thirty five page dissent, And it is look, I think 377 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 1: the last curse of the Joe Biden era is unfortunately 378 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: going to be with us for a generation plus, which 379 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 1: is he put a wholly unqualified far left wing politician, 380 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 1: not a judge, far left wing politician on the court, 381 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: and even left wingers on the Court are I think 382 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 1: frankly embarrassed that Katanji Brown Jackson is there, and buck 383 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: even Elena Kagan, who whatever you want to say about 384 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: Elena Kagan, she is a smart, principled leftist jurist, but 385 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: understands how the law works. I think former dean of 386 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 1: Harvard Law School. You may not agree with her, but 387 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: you're gonna read her opinion and say there is a 388 00:20:55,720 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 1: foundation of constitutional jurisprudence under under girding her opinions that 389 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: is not occurring here. And unfortunately Katanji Brown Jackson basically 390 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 1: is going to be worthless degeneration. 391 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 3: Just to give everybody a little bit of a little 392 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 3: bit of a background on this right. So the Supreme 393 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 3: Court Clay mentioned ate one decision Chiles versus Salazar. Chi 394 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 3: Lesbie Salazar, and so Kaylee Chiles was a licensed Christian 395 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 3: mental health counselor in Colorado who was giving talk therapy 396 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 3: to people, and she was working with clients who wanted 397 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 3: to reduce same sex attraction. The state of Colorado has 398 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 3: had a law in place, and there are other states 399 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 3: with this that prohibits people who are this was a 400 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 3: licensed therapist, prohibits licensed therapist from working with people at 401 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 3: their request to talk through and reduce. 402 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 1: Same sex attraction or gay attraction. Right. 403 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 3: And meanwhile they also had a law. This is the 404 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 3: part of it that was really telling you what's going on. 405 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 3: By the way, what happened to Colorado. I used to 406 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 3: think of Colorado as like cowboys in the mountains, and 407 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 3: now it's like communists running wild. 408 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: It's it's just gotten completely the politics there. Yeah, and 409 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: remember Buck, they the Colorado Supreme Court is such a 410 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: mess that they said it was constitutional. Everybody forgets Democrats 411 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: tried to take Trump off the ballot in Colorado. Supreme 412 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: Court said you can do this. The United State Supreme 413 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: Court said nine, oh, you can't. It's hard to get 414 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: nine oh nine oh. I know. Even Jackson think, yes, 415 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: e crazy Katanji Brown. Jackson was like, yeah, as you 416 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 1: went too far. Think about how stupid that is. 417 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 3: A state thought that they could remove a person from 418 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 3: the ballot who had no criminal conviction and no constitutional 419 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 3: bar to running. 420 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: Think about how insane that is. 421 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,719 Speaker 3: Yes, I mean that anyone actually ever and there were 422 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 3: people going to an MSNBC or I'm a legal scholar 423 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 3: in all I defend this, you know. Anyway, back to 424 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 3: this gender therapy or a same sex attraction therapy stuff clay. 425 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,880 Speaker 3: If somebody went in though, seeking therapy to make them 426 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 3: more trans, that. 427 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 1: Was under the law. 428 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 3: Yes, you could make somebody more you could push somebody 429 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 3: down the trans path, but you could not push them 430 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 3: back from the edge of the gay path essentially, and 431 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 3: so the law was was clearly I mean, this is 432 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 3: obviously First Amendment discrimination. There's no Eight justices found this 433 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 3: to be First Amendment discrimination. Catanji Brown Jackson decided that 434 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 3: words were medical care in this context. So essentially she 435 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 3: was treating this like a surgery. And so if you 436 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 3: tell somebody, hey, maybe you're not gay, maybe you're just 437 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 3: in a moment of confusion and your sexuality, you know 438 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 3: you're But this was for miners, mind you, So these 439 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 3: are including teenagers. Maybe you're not gay, maybe you're having 440 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 3: a moment. Let's talk this through. That's like doing an 441 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 3: unchangeable surgery on somebody, which by the way, they do 442 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 3: on the other side for the trans people, they actually 443 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 3: do surgery. But words here were being treated by a 444 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 3: tangi Brown Jackson Jackson, I mean, she really is, she's 445 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 3: The MSNBC comments section made into a Supreme Court justice. 446 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 3: She is untethered to the law and unhinged when it 447 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 3: comes to the Constitution. 448 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: It kind of gave you a sense that there was 449 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 1: a discomfort with her being on the Supreme Court, where 450 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 1: a lot of times they're very collegial relationships even across 451 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 1: different perspectives on how to apply constitutional jurispolus. Scilla and 452 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: RBG were tight. That's a great example. They were very 453 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: good friends even though intellectually they disagreed. Very often, there 454 00:24:55,680 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: was a acceptance of a principal disagreement on how to 455 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 1: apply the law across to bucks point. Scalia and Ruth 456 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 1: Bader Ginsburg both very smart and had different readings. Elena Kagan, 457 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: I think that there are a lot of people out 458 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: there who say, hey, I may not agree with her, 459 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 1: you know, renderings of judgment, but I trust the intellectual 460 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: theft that she is bringing to bear on those opinions. 461 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: When Amy Cony Barrett buck, I thought it was very significant. 462 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: Amy Cony Barrett does not seem like the kind of 463 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: person who wants to take a two by four to people. 464 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 1: Very often. She seems like what she is, a mom 465 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: who tries to be kind, and some of her responses 466 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: to Katanji Brown Jackson were the equivalent judicially of just 467 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: throwing your hands up in the air and saying, I 468 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: can't even stomach these arguments. They're embarrassing. They don't recognize 469 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: any past precedent. And Lena Kagan kind of did that 470 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: in this eight to one opinion again on the left, 471 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: Elena Kagan kind of saying like, come on, this is 472 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: a and utterly ridiculous to your point, Buck, I think 473 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: it's a you know, blue sky reddit board, far left 474 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: wing take. And that's fine if you have far left 475 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: wing takes, but being a judge who does this is 476 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: just again, I think the final final awful echo and 477 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 1: reverberation of the Biden administration that unfortunately is going to 478 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: be with us for generations. 479 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 3: And he told us that he was going to limit 480 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 3: the limit the pool to black female jurists, which, given 481 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 3: the actual interpretation of the Constitution in most recent years, it's. 482 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: Really not okay, not allowed to do that. I don't 483 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 1: know how. 484 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 3: You don't know what you can do about the legality 485 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 3: of such a thing. But Clay, you if we put 486 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 3: out a job let's just say we put out a 487 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 3: job opening for this show, and we said, hey, guys, 488 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 3: great opening. You know we got We've got great producers here. 489 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 3: We're gonna have a fabulous team for you to work with. 490 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,199 Speaker 3: We're only hiring black women for this job. Yeah, we 491 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 3: would be sued and we would lose, yes. 492 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: No question. 493 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,239 Speaker 3: And by the way, rightly so, like that would be 494 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 3: a clear violation of the standards that you can use 495 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 3: under the Constitution and under a non discrimination and employment 496 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 3: That's how he set up a Supreme Court appointment. He 497 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 3: said it out loud too. It's not it's not like 498 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 3: we're surmising this. He said it out loud. And you 499 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 3: have somebody who is just I agree with you. By 500 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 3: the way, I don't. I see things differently than Kagan, 501 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 3: but I respect that she's at least trying to stay 502 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 3: within the law. Yeah, Katanji Brown Jackson, you know what 503 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 3: she's going to do more or less based upon what 504 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 3: your standard MSNBC watching leftist wants to happen. Yeah, which 505 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 3: is not the way it's supposed to be. 506 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and again, it's not even a judge opinion. It's 507 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: just crazy left wing opinion. And I said this at 508 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: the time. I'm Kataji Brown Jackson's appointment under federal law 509 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: was unconstitutional. What do I mean by that? You are 510 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: not allowed under federal law to say I am only 511 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: going to consider a black woman for a job. First 512 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 1: of all, it's demeaning to the black woman because if 513 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: you pick a black woman for a job and you've 514 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 1: eliminated what is it, ninety seven percent? I think of lawyers, 515 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: ninety eight percent maybe even were eliminated on their face 516 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: when Biden said I'm only going to pick a black woman, 517 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: so you're saying I'm only picking a judge from two 518 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: percent of the legal community. And then he picked one 519 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: that was not particularly astute or talented in the black 520 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: female legal community. Unpacked this first, and let's unpack this 521 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: for a second. He picked her, she had been a 522 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: judge before. 523 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 3: Okay, did she have a leg up in that appointment 524 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 3: because she was a black woman. Yes, the only reason 525 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 3: she gotten the job in the first place was because 526 00:28:59,080 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 3: she was a black woman. 527 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: But I'm saying, yeah, you know, just keep keep working 528 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: it back. Yeah. 529 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 3: Oh oh, she went she went to Harvard Law. Okay, 530 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 3: what were her el SATs? Did she have a like 531 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 3: we know that that tradition that generally speaking, overwhelmingly black 532 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 3: students of her age that went to Harvard would have 533 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 3: had a tremendous benefit from their race that as we know, 534 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,959 Speaker 3: the Supreme Court has actually said, you were not supposed 535 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 3: to have. You're not supposed to have that. That's wrong. 536 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 3: So you can work it all the way back and 537 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 3: people because when you'll say oh, she's not qualified, those say, 538 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 3: well she was a judge before and she went to 539 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 3: Harvard Law. Yeah, well did she have those things because 540 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 3: she was a black female? These are these are entirely 541 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 3: valid questions, which I know until recently we're told we're 542 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 3: not allowed to ask these questions. But actually no, you 543 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 3: can ask these questions because, like we said, Elena Kagan 544 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 3: is a is a you know, a gay woman, she's 545 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 3: a lesbian. 546 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: She's a very talented lawyer, and she's very very smart. 547 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's not about identity, but the left makes 548 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 3: about identity. There are black women who would be great 549 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 3: on the Supreme Court. There are black women who would 550 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 3: absolutely deserve that job. I don't think that Catangi Brown 551 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 3: Jackson is one of them. 552 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: I agree that, And. 553 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 3: That's just you know, observing what we can all see 554 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 3: here because they never say, look at the look at 555 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 3: the depth and clarity of the opinions. I know they 556 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 3: have staffs, but the opinions put out on her. Look 557 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 3: at the depth and Clay, she speaks like five times 558 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 3: as much as all the other jerks together or something. 559 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not that much, but it's a lot. Well, 560 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: and again that goes to I think that she has 561 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: broken a lot of the collegial norms. I think a 562 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: lot of people are fed up with her on the court, 563 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:43,719 Speaker 1: and I think even leftists are of the opinion like 564 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: Elena Kagan is where they just kind of roll their 565 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: eyes and say, this is a poor choice and she's 566 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: gonna be there Buck for thirty. 567 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 3: More years, a very long time. Well, but also it's 568 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 3: a reminder Biden. We got sold on Biden to the 569 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 3: degree that we were actually sold on him. Just let's 570 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 3: let's let's just take let's move past that for a second. 571 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 3: You know, the country was sold on Biden, so to speak, 572 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 3: as the uniter, Clay and as he's not a radical, 573 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 3: what better what better example can you have of the 574 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 3: actual radicalism and practice of the Biden administration, Which we 575 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 3: could sit here and we did for years talk about it, 576 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 3: but we had whether it's the COVID stuff, or the spending, 577 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 3: or the trans policies or the wide open border. Joe 578 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 3: Biden was the trojan horse for far left Obamaist policy, 579 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 3: if you will, and there's no better example of him 580 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 3: being a far left figurehead than Catangi Brown Jackson. That's 581 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 3: the Supreme that's the moderate Supreme Court justice that we 582 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 3: get from a Biden administration. 583 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: Also remember that he picked Kamala Harris after saying he 584 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: would pick a woman as his running mate and eliminating 585 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: all men from consideration, and then he took it a 586 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: step further by saying, I will only pick a black woman. 587 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: And the result is I think we have ended up 588 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: with the least qualified, most political Supreme Court justice in 589 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: any of our lives. And I was just looking up 590 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: to see how old she is, and unfortunately, Buck, we're 591 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: going to probably have her if age is any expectation 592 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: for another thirty years. I would also point this out 593 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: as we go to break here. Supreme Court requires a 594 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: majority Senate approval. There is a possibility out there that 595 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: Republicans could lose the Supreme Court, could lose the Senate 596 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: in November, and that Trump basically would not be able 597 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: to get anybody appointed, just like with Ruth Bader Ginsburg, 598 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: who thought, Hey, I'm going to live forever and left 599 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: behind the opportunity to have Obama be able to appoint 600 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: her replacement. Look at this situation right now. We've got 601 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 1: Clarence Thomas around seventy five. We've got Aldo around seventy four. 602 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, it may be five or six 603 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: years until Republicans have what they have now, which is 604 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: control of the Senate and the Presidency to be able 605 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: to control who gets on the Supreme Court. Everybody who 606 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: gets into their seventies seems to think that they're going 607 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: to live forever and be healthy forever. The data often 608 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: reflects that's not true at all. 609 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 3: Last night I was at an event in West Palm 610 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 3: Beach for our incredible sponsor that we're honestly honored to 611 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 3: be affiliated with and to help in every way that 612 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 3: we can, Tunnel the Towers Foundation. I heard the stories 613 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 3: of families that have been helped, gold Star families, heard 614 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 3: from people involved the Tunnel to the Towers day in 615 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 3: and day out, and how meaningful the work is to them, 616 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 3: and Clay has gone and been a part of their events. 617 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 3: My wife has taken part in their events. 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That's t the number two 638 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:43,919 Speaker 3: t dot org. 639 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: Patriots radio hosts a couple of regular guys, Clay Travis 640 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:54,439 Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app 641 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, welcome back 642 00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: in here too, Play and Buck. 643 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,919 Speaker 3: We have a lot that we're going to be getting 644 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 3: into with you today, and we're gonna update you also 645 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 3: on the TSA and DHS funding situation, because it feels 646 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 3: like that's getting better, but it hasn't come to a 647 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,760 Speaker 3: full resolution yet. We'll talk to Texas Representative Chip Roy 648 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 3: about that. It's you know, Clay, we get to this 649 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 3: point where I think it just becomes very Oh wait, 650 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 3: actually I had something I want to throw in the mix. 651 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 1: I'll hold that for a second. 652 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 3: Democrats just made a lot of people, ruined their vacations 653 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 3: and ruined their day, hundreds of thousands of people for 654 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 3: no reason except that they're bitter that they're not in power. 655 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 3: Just I hope everyone remembers that because they're getting nothing 656 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,760 Speaker 3: out of this other than the bitterness that they spread 657 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 3: everywhere because that's what Democrats do. But some a bit 658 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 3: of good news. I'm here in wes Palm. I meant 659 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 3: to mention this the first hour. Do you know what 660 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 3: Ron DeSantis just signed? 661 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 1: I did. I saw this. But tell the people there's 662 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: a positive aviation story. 663 00:35:54,880 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 3: Palm Beach International Airport is being officially renamed Donald Donald J. 664 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 3: Trump International Airport, which is just fantastic. I gotta say 665 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 3: I love it. It should be named I mean, what 666 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 3: what other airport would be named for? This should be 667 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,280 Speaker 3: the airport named for him. And I'm also gonna say this, Miami, 668 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 3: your airport compared to Palm Beach Airport, Palm Beach International 669 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 3: Clay is like private aviation compared to Miami Airport is 670 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 3: like is like a bad day and a Third World 671 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 3: airport every day. It's stinks. Palm Beach International very civilized. 672 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,320 Speaker 3: That's why I also fly into Fort Lauderdale. It's a 673 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,839 Speaker 3: little bit of a difficult traveled schedule sometime, but it's 674 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,320 Speaker 3: way easier to get in and out of A great guest. 675 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 3: Isabel Brown, Chip Roy, Jared Isaacman of NASA still to 676 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 3: come keep hanging with us. 677 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 1: Next couple of hours rolling through