1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: Welcome back to a numbers game with Ryan Gardska. I'm 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: so glad you're here because I have a lot to 3 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: tell you about. So on last Friday show, I told 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: you about a controversy and golf and Congressman Representative Tony 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: Gonzalez from Texas. He represents the district on the border, 6 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: and since that episode came out, things have gotten gone 7 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 1: from bad to worse for the Texas Congressman. For those 8 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: who missed the episode, which why are you missing episodes? 9 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: Like and subscribe? Am I right? But if for those 10 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: who miss the episode, here's a quick recap. In September, 11 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: a staffer named Regina Santos A Vilez died of sever 12 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: of his died from setting herself on fire after she 13 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 1: claimed that an affair with Gonzales had gone wrong and 14 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: he ghosted her and that her entire life was destroyed. 15 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: Her husband and her had broken up, he had taken 16 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: the child, and she set herself on fire, unfortunately in 17 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: front of her mother. Anyway, Gonzales claimed that in the 18 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: wake of her death that he had asked absolutely nothing 19 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: to do with that. You know, he has nothing to 20 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: do with it. There wasn't an affair Now, remember, Tony 21 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: Gonzalez is a married man. He has a wife named 22 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 1: Angel and they have six children together. Yes, this he 23 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: and Angel, This woman named Angel gave him six children, 24 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: and this is how he's chosen to treat her in public. 25 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: Twenty four, Sight News reported that new text messages have 26 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: been revealed between Tony Gonzalez and the deceased staffer, and 27 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: it's not only clear that there, yes, there was a relationship, 28 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: but he was the one incentivizeding the rest of He 29 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: was the one pushing the relationship even when she said no. 30 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 1: Messages from May twenty twenty four revealed that Congressman Gonzales 31 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: requested quote sexy pictures from the staffer and she declined, 32 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: not once, but four times. From the article, it says 33 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: this the message showed the exchange between the beginning around 34 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: midnight in May twenty twenty four. First of all, why 35 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: are you texting a staffer at midnight unless it's I've 36 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: been robbed at gunpoint, I'm in the hospital some unless 37 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 1: it's literally an emergency, Why are you messaging an employee 38 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: of midnight? That's first of all, with Gonzalez asking Santos 39 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: Abilas to send him quote sexy pictures. She deflected, writing 40 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: that her life had been a Telee novella for the 41 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: past seven days and that he didn't quote really want 42 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: a hot picture of her when, by the way, this 43 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: is what people do when they are in positions that 44 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: they feel they feel that they need to get out of, 45 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 1: but they don't want to be rude. So they're either 46 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: making a joke or they're saying, no, you really don't 47 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: want this, trying to convince the other person. Gonzalez responded 48 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: that he was just a quote visual person, A visual person, Okay. 49 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: Santos Abilla has declined again, saying that she didn't like 50 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: to take those kinds of pictures of herself. As the 51 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: conversation continued, Gonzalez asked about sexual preferences and positions the 52 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: message indicated. Santos Abiella is repeated pushed back, this is 53 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: going too far, boss. At twelve fifty a m. So 54 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 1: they've talked for over an hour at this point, back 55 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: and forth and text messages. You can imagine that one 56 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: of their spouses may be lying next to them in bed, 57 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: probably hers too, as they're sitting there and she's repeatedly 58 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 1: being asked, send me a naked photo, Send me a 59 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: naked photo. She was also asked. She asked Gonzales, did 60 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: you hire me because of my appearance? How long have 61 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: you you know? Did you find me attractive? For Gonzales 62 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: pressed her continuously with more sexually explicit questions. And I 63 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: hope your kids are not in the room right now. 64 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: What I'm going to say? He asked her at one point, 65 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: do you like anal which, at one point Santos and 66 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: Abulis pushed back. Never the message we're so over the 67 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: top that she asked him at one point, are you sober? 68 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: That is how aggressive of he was to this woman 69 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: who was his employee, and he was an elected official. 70 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: It would be bad if this was a private sector experience. 71 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: There's a power dynamic here, But the fact that you 72 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: are an elected official, you're elected to represent this woman. 73 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: She probably voted for him, and she works for him, 74 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: and he is prying her with information. He is asking 75 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: her explicit information. Think about the power dynamics. Think of 76 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: what is probably going through her head. There's a self 77 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: gratification of Oh he thinks I'm attractive. That makes me 78 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: feel good. She has had a base on a lot 79 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: of people don't feel you know, as attractive as they 80 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: once did, as they get older, as they have children. 81 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: But he finds me attractive. He's my boss, He's this 82 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: powerful man. She's pushing back, she's pushing back, but he 83 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: does not take the bait. He continues. He continued with 84 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: several other questions about her and what he would like 85 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 1: to do to her in bed. She's reminding him continually 86 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: in the conversation, you are my boss, hind tint, this 87 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: is appropriate, hit tint. But she said no, And the 88 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 1: more she said no, the more he wanted it. Other 89 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: female staffers have gone on background in these in this article, 90 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: saying that they also received late night text messages that 91 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 1: they that came off as forward. They never said that 92 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: they were that that that they were explicitly sexual, but 93 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: they made them feel comfortable from this father of six, 94 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: so she the Those same staffers also say that Avillas, 95 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: Regina Villas, came to them and said, this is what's 96 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: going on. You know, she came out, she said, this 97 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: is what's going on. I'm having this affair. She said, 98 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: I feel terrible. I messed everything up. But other former 99 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: staffers said that he used the fact that he was 100 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: the boss to give her special community projects that she 101 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: was interested in, special promotions to keep her in the office, 102 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: things that she enjoyed. She was enticed to stay working 103 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: for him because I'm sure someone's saying, why didn't she 104 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: just leap? Why didn't she just leap? He's throwing benefits 105 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: at her for her job, Things that maybe she wanted 106 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: to do for a very long time. She's getting the 107 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: chance to do because he's sitting there as the boss, 108 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 1: and he knows that she's attracted. She knows that he's 109 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: attracted to her. When her husband found out, he told 110 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 1: her the only way to keep the marriage together was 111 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 1: for her to resign from her job. That seems very obvious. 112 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: She refused, saying that she wanted to finish these projects. 113 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 1: That Tony Gonzalez was giving her the project that she 114 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: loved and wanted to do for a very long time. 115 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: He was dangling them like special treats and enticing her, 116 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: making her feel sexy, making her feel wanted, making her 117 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: giving her professional promotions, professional promotions and professional projects that 118 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: she liked. She he was keeping her very happy and 119 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: you know, basically love bombing her in many ways. Gonzalez 120 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: continue to say this was a coordinated political attack, all 121 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: these leaked messages. That's honestly one of the stupidest thing 122 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: in the world. Now, sorry, this woman was your employee 123 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: and you used your position of power to allure her 124 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: to you, to have a sexual relationship with you. You 125 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: knew that you had the power over her the entire 126 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: time you were married. She was married to you. You know 127 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: you're a father, you know she was a mother. You 128 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: didn't seem to care about anybody's life throughout this entire situation, Sir, 129 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: this is not a political attack or coordinated effort. The 130 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: fact that this woman is deceased after you ghost to 131 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: her because her life was ruined. Now, she's not, you know, 132 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: an angel, She's not. You know she did she laid 133 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: in the bed to or wherever it was, the desk, 134 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: who knows, But she very much tells him in these 135 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: messes just no, no, no, no, no, no no, a 136 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: series of times, and every time she told him no, 137 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: he wanted her more. He was more aggressive with it. 138 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: He was dangling more cherries at her, saying this is 139 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: an opportunity for you. He didn't care about her, he 140 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: didn't care about the life he was destroying. And not 141 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: only that, he was pursuing other women in his office 142 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: while doing the same thing while he was doing that 143 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: to her. He was doing the same thing to other 144 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: women while he was in this relationship with her, while 145 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: he was married. With all this umiration coming out, the 146 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: congressional Republicans are finally breaking as of this taping of 147 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: this episode, which is being taped on Tuesday. Remember what 148 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: I told you in the past, Trony Gonzalez is not 149 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: just a creep, but he was not that conservative. He 150 00:08:54,720 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: was allegedly attacking other Republicans who, during Biden's administration, wanted 151 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: to crack down heavily at the border. Allegedly, he called 152 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: the Tire Texas delegation a bunch of racists for wanting 153 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: to crack down on illegal immigration. Allegedly, well, if Floria 154 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: of House Republicans are finally calling on him to resign 155 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: or drop out of the race. Lauren Bober, who's a 156 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: pretty conservative fire brand from Colorado, was the first to 157 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: go public. She tweeted resign That was followed up by 158 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: women like Anapolina, Luna, Mary Miller, Nancy May's all congress 159 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: women from Florida, Illinois, and South Carolina. But it wasn't 160 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: just women. Brandon Guild came out. He's been on this 161 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: podcast and I worked for him for his campaign. He 162 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: called on Gonzalez to give up his reelection bid. And 163 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: that's not all Tim burchase from Tennessee. He is known 164 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: as one of the nicest men in Congress. I'll tell 165 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: you a secret. Allegedly, when George Santos was having his 166 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: you know, expose as being coming out one after the 167 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: other and they were moving to kick him out of office, 168 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: Tim Burchas allegedly would go to him to check on 169 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: his mental health to make sure that he wasn't in 170 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: a really dark place where you know, bad things can happen. 171 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: He is known as an incredibly, incredibly nice human beings, 172 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: so wanted to point that out anyway. There's also Eli 173 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: Crane Ship, Roy Thomas Massey. The Freedom Caucus is, which 174 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: is the conservative caucus of the most of the most 175 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: conservative members of the House have endorsed his opponent, and 176 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: they're spending money on behalf of his opponent. This is 177 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: all coming at Speaker Johnson like a freight train. People 178 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,359 Speaker 1: are asking Speaker Johnson to revoke his endorsement of Gonzales, 179 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: and he's claiming that these people are that these are 180 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: very serious allegations, but he wants to know more information 181 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: that this needs to play out. That's kind of odd 182 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: to say, because Gonzales is not under a criminal investigation. 183 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: It's only Gonzales, you know, actually, you know, lit the 184 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: flame himself. He didn't. But these are just private conversations. 185 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: This is the kind of thing that would get you 186 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: fired from a private sector business. This is you know, 187 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: absolutely a disgrace to the office. So for him to say, 188 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: let's see where this goes is kind of a deflection. 189 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: And here's why Johnson does not want to turn on Gonzales, Emmaily. 190 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: If Gonzales resigns from office before November, or he retires, 191 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: or he switches parties. Not retires, but if he switches parties, 192 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: or if he just decides to become a thorn in 193 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: the side, then the GOP is left with a one 194 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: seat majority in the House, and that seat is Thomas Massey. 195 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: And while I like Massey personally, he has not been 196 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 1: a reliable vote for Republicans on a number of very 197 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: consequential pieces of legislation. That's why you're not going to 198 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: see Johnson nikely Trump turn on Gonzales right now because 199 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: they can't afford to lose literally one single seat. If 200 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: they had a ten seat majority, a twenty seat majority, 201 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: I think things would be different, but they don't. So 202 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: why I think you haven't seen him turn on a 203 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 1: few other members who are doing nefarious things. Meanwhile, it 204 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: looks like the NRCC, that's the National Republican Congressional Campaign Committee. 205 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: They support the House Republicans. It looks like they're also 206 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: pulling away from Gonzales. Last election twenty twenty four, they 207 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to protect Gonzalez's seat. 208 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: This year nothing, and he only won by eight hundred 209 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: votes last time. So it's a sign either a of 210 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 1: confidence that he can win without their support or b 211 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: that they just don't care anymore to support him to 212 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 1: protect him. I'm not exactly sure which. I'm going to 213 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: continue to reach out to my contacts over in that organization. 214 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: Spec I can hear the gossip, but one of the 215 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: two hours happening, they're saying he's going to win or 216 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: he's going to lose no matter what we do, so 217 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: we'll save the money. What I do know is is 218 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: that in the age that we are expecting more from 219 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: people who are in positions of the deserve respect and 220 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: position of power when conversations over abuse of that power 221 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: are happening. It really is of the utmost importance that 222 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: people who can hold them accountable do hold them accountable. 223 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: Republican voters in this district should start weeding out the 224 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: worst of the political class, and Tony Gonzalez is the 225 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: worst of the worst. His opponent, Brandon Herrera, has a 226 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: few weeks left to bring this election home and kick this, 227 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: you know, kick this, you know what, to the curb. 228 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: But we'll see what goes on. It's been a few 229 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: more weeks of early voting, early primary voting, and then 230 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: the actual primary date itself. I don't know why Texas 231 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: has like six weeks of primary voting, but a few 232 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: more weeks left. It is Brandon Herrera's game, a race 233 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: to lose right now, and we'll see if maybe Tony 234 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: Gonzalez's longstanding support and his endorsement President Trump is enough 235 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: to get him over the finish line. I kind of 236 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: doubt it is. Okay. Next up, we'll be talking about 237 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: new polling data around AI and how Democrats are looking 238 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: to get ahead of Republicans on this emerging political issue. 239 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 1: Stay tuned. Echel On Insights is an interesting polling firm 240 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: and something that they really do that no one else 241 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: does as well as they look at the political real alignment, 242 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: the fact that Republicans are becoming a party of more 243 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:27,119 Speaker 1: fiscally moderate but social conservative working class people, and Democrats 244 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: becoming a party of college educated, very progressive voters. I 245 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: know this seems so obvious now, but when they started 246 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: tracking it, it really wasn't obvious. No one else was 247 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: doing it like they were doing it. They were really 248 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: the first ones on this whole entire you know, movement 249 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: that now encompasses our politics, and they caught political trends 250 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: before everyone else did's so kudos to them, and I 251 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: really need to try to get them on this podcast 252 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: now that I'm thinking about it. But they have a 253 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: new poll over AI. And I know, I know because 254 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: I've heard from people. I'm sure you're saying, Ryan enough 255 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: with the AI tal every day is like the terminator 256 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: with this child sometimes where you're bringing up AI like 257 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: once a week. I know, I do think it will 258 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: be one of the most pivotal issues in twenty twenty 259 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: eight I truly do, and I want to get ahead 260 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: of the curb on what's trending with AI. So bear 261 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: with me if you think that that I talked about 262 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: it too much. I know from I heard from somebody 263 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: that I do. But I will, I will try, and 264 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: I will try to make this very short. But sit tight. 265 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: It's important. Echelan Insights in their latest polling would ask people, 266 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: how concerned are you that AI will eliminate your job 267 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: in the next five years. Thirty three percent of respondent 268 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: said yes, sixty three percent said no. One in three 269 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: Americans fear for their job. What type of job do 270 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: you think is at risk for AI? For AI taking them, 271 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: Forty one percent said white collar, thirteen percent said blue collar, 272 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: and thirty six percent that they would be equally under threat. 273 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: Which are you more worried about? Fifty nine percent of 274 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: respondent said that policymakers are not going far enough to 275 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: regulate AI to prevent harm. Twenty four percent say policy 276 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: makers are going too far to regulate AI and stiff 277 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: and stifle innovation. Would you support or oppose a data 278 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: center being built in your community? Thirty five percent say support, 279 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: forty six percent of pose when they asked about the 280 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: purpose of the data center, it was a very different answer. 281 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: If the data centers is used for digital services like 282 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: searching or streaming, or keeping your cloud on your phone 283 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: or computer, twenty five percent actually they'd be more supportive 284 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: of building a data center. Twenty four percent said likely 285 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: less likely. Basically, the data centers are less of a 286 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: concern than what they're doing. Because when they asked what 287 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: if they were to train AI, eighteen percent said they'd 288 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: be more likely to support a data center in their community. 289 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: Forty one percent said less likely. It is becoming very 290 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: obvious that there is a populous underbelly in this country 291 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: that is afraid of their livelihoods because of AI. They 292 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: are afraid for their kids' future that AI is going 293 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: to rob them of the chance for a good life. 294 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: This cuts across generations. So what are policy makers doing 295 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: about it? And this is what really ticks me off 296 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 1: about the press, about the whole never Trump bulkwark crowd. 297 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: Who I did actually just somebody a member from the 298 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: on the podcast. But this is what annoys me about 299 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: those people is this is the conversation we should be having. 300 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: We should be talking about the future. What would happen, 301 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: what will happen? Is there any accountability? Is there any protection? 302 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: Are there any guard rails? But no, they want to 303 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 1: talk about Trump's latest breakdown, or illegal aliens, not shouldn't 304 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 1: have to follow the law? Or is this streamer gay? 305 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: Or is you know what's going on with the royal family. No, 306 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 1: this is actually really really important to everyone's future, and 307 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: it pains me to say this. Republicans, for the most part, 308 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: are missing the moment. There's a few Republicans, especially in 309 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: the States, who are doing things about Iranda santas Is. 310 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: The governor of Utah is Spencer Cox. But there's a 311 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 1: lot of Republicans who are just taking cues from President Trump, 312 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: and he's all in on AI, not supporting any regulation 313 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: and actually trying to stop states from filling the void 314 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: that the federal government is leaving behind. We should have 315 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: a one federal standard when it comes to AI, but 316 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: the Feds won't create anything, so we're gonna end up 317 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 1: with fifty standards, and rather than having smart people get 318 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:44,959 Speaker 1: together to create a standard, we're gonna have a lot 319 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: of dumb people in fifty states creating standards that it's 320 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: going to make the entire industry very very difficult. And 321 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: what I fear is that AI is going to become 322 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: a wedge issue. It isn't yet. It is not gun 323 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: control or immigration where everyone takes one side or the other. 324 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 1: There's a lot of nuance still in AI. But because 325 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: a lot of Republicans are feeling the need to take 326 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: fustrom President Trump rather than having an intellectual conversation over 327 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: where a third of the public are feeling right now, 328 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 1: we are going to make this into a partisan issue 329 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: where it's Blue team versus Red team, and no one's 330 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: going to win when that becomes the conversation. Right there's 331 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: a lot of gray before there's a party consensus that 332 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: we are living in right now. Democrats are taking notes though. 333 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 1: Alex Thompson of Axios, he wrote he's been on this podcast. 334 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: He's a very smart reporter. He wrote that the Democratic 335 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: contenders for twenty twenty eight are flip flopping on AI 336 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: right now and ramping up efforts to regulate the industry. 337 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: This is from Alex Thompson's reporting just a few months ago. 338 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: Potential twenty to twenty eight presidential candidates, including Illinois Governor JB. Pritzker, 339 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro and Maryland Governor Wes Moore. We're 340 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,719 Speaker 1: bending over backwards to lure centers with offers of lavish 341 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,959 Speaker 1: tax bricks and other goodies. The products seemed like no brainers. 342 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: Too many politicians. They promised jobs, made big trade unions happy, 343 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: took on China, and police Silicon Valley. Now those Democrats 344 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: are abruptly retreating and value to protect voters from the 345 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: consequences of the AI Revolution. Just six years ago, Pritzker 346 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: was all in for AI in Chicago before electricity costs spiked. 347 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: Josh Shapiro trumpeted a twenty billion dollar Amazon AI data 348 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: center in Pennsylvania before clarifying his position and calling for 349 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: more oversight. And Wes Moore went the furthest by veting 350 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: legislation to study the impact of data centers, but is 351 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: now calling for new state guidelines. Other Democrats like Kentucky 352 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: Governor Andy Bashir and pep put to Judge the most 353 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: disliked gay man, to Black America to row Kanna, they're 354 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: all calling on more regulations. And then there is Bernie Sanders. 355 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,199 Speaker 1: Bernie who had eighty four year old for eighty four 356 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: years old, says he's not going to run for president, 357 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,959 Speaker 1: but his doing everything you would do to run for president, 358 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: is calling for a more retorm on all new AI 359 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: data centers. And maybe he won't run. He is very old, 360 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 1: he says. He says, his age is with stopping him. 361 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: But he's leading the party narrative. The progressive wing is 362 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: taking their cues from him. But it's more than just 363 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: progressives now. It's more than just AOC or Bernie or Rocanna. 364 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: This is governors from Kentucky and Pennsylvania and politicians and 365 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: must win states who are sitting there and saying, hey, 366 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: I want to represent the one in three Americans who 367 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: are afraid of AI taking their jobs. This is going 368 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: to fuel a populist backlash if unemployment rates starts tacking up, 369 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 1: especially for recent college graduates and young people. Republicans do 370 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: not need to go full Barn Bernie Sanders. They don't 371 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: need to become ludd Eyes. But polling is very obvious. 372 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: They need an answer, and the answer can be we 373 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: have to be China. No one cares. They have to 374 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: sit there and say and I know I just said 375 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: sit there. I thought it was going the whole episode 376 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: without saying sit there. They need to say. They need 377 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 1: to say, we support regulations to protect ips, intellectual property, 378 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: to protect children, to train people. We need information just 379 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: to make sure that AI can be turned off. That 380 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 1: these robots can't. You know, there has to be a 381 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: kill switch somewhere that they can't just reroute their own 382 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: entire intelligence. That they must be pro human. There's a 383 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: big conversation to be had and they're missing it. They're 384 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: completely asleep. Wake up people. Next is ask Me Anything. 385 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: Now it's time for the Ask Me Anything segment. If 386 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: you want to part of the Ask Me Anything segment, 387 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: you only Ryan at Numbers Game Podcast dot com. That's 388 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: Ryan at plural Numbers gamepodcast dot com. I get to 389 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: all these emails. I try sometimes the guys way. I've 390 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 1: gotten emails like you missed my email. It's just us, 391 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: my ADHD. I'll open up an email, start reading, and 392 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: then walk away. Or he lesks me a very complicated question. 393 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 1: It will take me a while to do the research 394 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: for me answered on this show, So give me a 395 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: little grace. But I do get to all them. I 396 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 1: read them, and I appreciate them. They make the show 397 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: like I'm really communicating with you, guys. I'm not just 398 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: talking to a microphone by myself. It's not just me 399 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: and the voices in my head. All right, this message 400 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 1: comes from Frank. He says, Hey, Ryan, since this has 401 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: asked me anything, all cap blocks. I've heard you make 402 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: funny references to Annie Williams before. I was a tangentile 403 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,959 Speaker 1: fan of hers when she had her TV show. I 404 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: hear now she's in conservatorship and locked up in a 405 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: senior care facility, possibly against her will. But then I 406 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: listened to a more recent interview with her by Charlemagne 407 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: the God, and she didn't sound she did indeed sound 408 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: like she's no longer with it. As a well connected 409 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: to New Yorker, have you heard much about what's going 410 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: on with her and were you a fan of hers 411 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: as well? Thank you? I love listening to the show, Frank, 412 00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,360 Speaker 1: thank you. I love that you listen to the show 413 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: and how you Yeah. I love Wendy Williams. I loved 414 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: her doc show. I loved her radio show too. Because 415 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 1: I'm from New York. I think that she was one 416 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: of the best people in daytime broadcasting. Since, like Oprah Winfrey, 417 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: it's an incredibly hard job to sit in a place 418 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 1: on a chair and talk to yourself, talk completely alone 419 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: for thirty minutes. I do it three times a week sometimes, 420 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: and it is very difficult. Even my monologue, which is 421 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 1: like ten minutes long. Sometimes it's hard. I don't know 422 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: if you guys are getting my jokes or if I'm 423 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: reacting positively. At least she had an audience when she 424 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 1: would do her her hot topic segments. But it's difficult, 425 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: and very few people do it well. She does it, 426 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: brush Limbob, there's just a handful. It's not many people 427 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 1: who can actually just talk by themselves and hear what 428 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: the audience is responding in their head without them actually 429 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: talking to you. A lot of people need a guess. 430 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: It doesn't make them bad. It's just a very different 431 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: type of talent. And I thought she was great. I 432 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: learned a lot from her. I used certain verbiage that 433 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: she said on her show, like I don't say old, 434 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: I say a person of a certain age. I think 435 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: it's a lot more respectful. She used to do that. 436 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 1: And for those of you who don't know Wendy Williams, 437 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: she suffered from a terrible addiction for decades and when 438 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 1: her husband Kelvin, she did on her and had a 439 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 1: baby with another woman. She really went on an extreme 440 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: downward spiral, and she was like on television allegedly looking 441 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: very drunk, looking like she wasn't with it, slurring her words, 442 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: belching it was really she was really kind of off, 443 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: and she was off her show for a year before 444 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 1: they ended it. And then around the same time that 445 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: she's showing that she's less than all there, her son 446 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 1: used her credit card to make some very very large 447 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 1: purchases for his birthday allegedly, and Wells Fargo froze though 448 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 1: her accounts, and a judge gave her a temporary financial 449 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: guardian because they thought that she was being abused financially. 450 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 1: She lost access to her seventy five million dollar fortune. 451 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 1: This is actually, just as a point of contention, truly 452 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 1: insane that somebody can lose their freedom, not from a 453 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,199 Speaker 1: family member saying, oh, you know, this person's sick, not 454 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: from a friend, from a bank. A bank took this 455 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: on and put her in a financial guardianship where she 456 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 1: had very limited access to her money, and then she 457 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: was placed in a long term health care facility for 458 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: people with dementia. I think it's called frontal lobe dementia, 459 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 1: which she claims she didn't have. There's been a lot 460 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 1: of doubts that she had it. It was probably alcohol induced, 461 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 1: but not permanent. The damage. She's definitely taken a step 462 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: back from where she was as a performer. She repeats 463 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 1: herself a little bit, however, that doesn't mean that she 464 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 1: has dementia like originally claimed. It's really a terrible story. 465 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: And the shocking thing is is when this happened. It 466 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 1: happened just a few years after the Britney Spears thing. 467 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 1: When it happened, New York State has not changed any 468 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: of their laws around guardianship. It's actually one of the 469 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: strictest states in the country when it comes to guardianship. 470 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,719 Speaker 1: And the fact that a bank put a famous person 471 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,360 Speaker 1: in a guardianship because her son used her credit card 472 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 1: too much and locked her out of her vast fortune 473 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 1: is crazy. And I've heard, I don't know this, it's alleged. 474 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 1: I've heard that she is having to spend for that 475 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,959 Speaker 1: healthcare facility that she's in and it's upwards of like 476 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: fifteen thousand dollars a month, where she doesn't even want 477 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: to be and she has no choice whether she can 478 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: stay there or not. It's truly crazy. The latest I 479 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 1: heard from people that I kind of I know people 480 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 1: who know people around her. I don't. I've never met her, 481 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: but I know people who worked on her show. And 482 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: actually one of the main people who work in her 483 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 1: show doesn't live very far from where I grew up 484 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: in New York. LESA heard is you know her very 485 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: dearly beloved father passed away. He lived a very long life. 486 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 1: She attended his funeral in Florida, and that her lawyer, 487 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: she's a powerhouse attorney, is demanding a jury trial if 488 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: a judge doesn't refuse to terminate the guardianship. He keeps 489 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 1: saying that the guardianship will be over any day now 490 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 1: that he's been saying this, it's December, so who knows. 491 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: But they're looking for a jury trial and we'll see 492 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: if that happens. But his comments that will happen, that 493 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: it will end any day now is wanted for two months, 494 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: so we'll see. A jury trial will likely be next. 495 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: I think that I think that she probably shouldn't be 496 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: on the cameras anymore because she's not performing she used 497 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: to be. However, the guardianship is extreme. She's like in 498 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: a place for like eighty year olds, and she's a 499 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: woman who was like maybe in her early sixties. All right, 500 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: that's all I have today. I hope you enjoyed this episode. 501 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: Please like and subscribe on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, 502 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts, and I will talk to 503 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: you guys on Friday.