WEBVTT - #100 - Wack100 0:00:04.280 --> 0:00:13.480 Episode one hundred, Episode one hundred, Hey, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. 0:00:14.200 --> 0:00:17.680 It's episode one hundred of the bootleg Head podcast. This 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:22.279 is a big deal. Last year in June, I decided 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:26.000 to launch this podcast after two or three years of procrastinating, 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:30.000 meant to launch this thing in twenty seventeen. Finally, in 0:00:30.040 --> 0:00:32.239 the middle of a pandemic, I got the motivation to 0:00:32.320 --> 0:00:35.320 launch the boutleg Heab podcast and it's been going great. Man, 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:38.640 we're about to hit one hundred thousand on YouTube. Appreciate 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:41.360 everyone who always reaches out about all the episodes. Man. Really, 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:44.599 just I'm gonna try to do more with the podcast too, 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:47.280 because I feel like we started the podcast we're doing 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:50.159 like more like cool podcasting shit, like having like hip 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:52.919 hop discussions that were like audio only that weren't necessarily 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:55.160 interview driven. So gonna try to bring back some of 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:58.360 that stuff because lately we've just been doing just going 0:00:58.400 --> 0:01:01.360 hard on interviews, and we're still gonna go hard on interviews. 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:04.120 I'm gonna go hard on our pants. So those two 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:08.280 things are definitively gonna happen, but also just other things, 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:10.480 like we're gonna start going live on the YouTube more 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:12.759 I just want to say thank you. If you've ever 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:15.920 listened or watched any of the show, thank you for 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:19.600 real fucking fuck with y'all. I appreciate it. Even if 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:22.440 you're like a Doe who hates and talk shit about 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:25.520 all in the comments whatever, it's all the same, you're 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:30.920 still watching. Appreciate it. So for episode one hundred, we 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:35.520 were gonna do Freddy Gibbs, but Freddy Gibbs was out 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:40.560 of the state of California for a week, so you know, 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:42.920 Freddi Gibbs was episode one. We kicked it off with 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:47.720 fred and it obviously would have been dope to have 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:49.960 him on episode one hundred, but he'll be on like 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:52.120 an episode real soon. I mean I talk to him 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:55.160 every day. It is what it is. Instead, for episode 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:59.680 one hundred, we were like, let's do Whack one hundred, 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:07.840 one of the more crazy polarizing figures in rap that 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:10.200 we have right now, someone who I consider to be 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:14.800 a real friend, someone who, whether you like him or not, 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:19.240 is obviously you watch him. One of our most successful 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:24.079 interviews and episodes with Whack one hundred. And you know, 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:27.440 Whack is a guy who I always say like, Whack 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:30.400 will give you game, even when he's not trying. So 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:33.919 we brought Whack one hundred back on the podcast for 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:37.760 the hundredth episode Whack one hundred. Let me tell you 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:40.840 what actually happened. We recorded an hour and a half 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:45.720 with Whack, he leaves, and then all of a sudden 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:50.560 online it's pretty much being talked like Whack is managing 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:55.160 six ' nine. And now this is like after we 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:58.680 have a long discussion about his talks with six ' nine. 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:01.680 So I'm like, yo, Whack, you got to come back 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:03.760 up here and be a little bit more specific. When 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:06.440 you're talking about setting up forty three million dollar deals 0:03:06.520 --> 0:03:08.200 for six ' nine, are you managing him or not? 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:10.840 So he came back up to kind of give us 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:15.000 some more clarification on his situation with six ' nine. 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:17.760 So there's a The front end of this interview was 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:20.960 just recorded. The back end of the interview was recorded 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:24.880 last week, and uh, just the press play enjoy it. 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:27.800 Craziness about the Ray J sex tape piece holding on 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:30.120 mean Whack guy. So much crazy shit in this interview, 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:35.160 so enjoy it. Feel free to talk shit. Uh and 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:37.560 uh yeah, shout out to our sponsors. Man, really want 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:39.200 to give a shout out to odd Socks. It's our 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:41.240 one hundredth episode, and odd Socks has been holding us 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:46.040 down since like episode twenty, maybe episode fifteen, maybe episode ten, 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:48.520 I don't know, but they've been holding us down from 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:53.920 the jump from the Rippy since August of twenty twenty, 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:58.360 and we launched at the end of June. 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So we recorded like an hour and 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:57.120 a half with you, and then you left, and then 0:04:57.240 --> 0:05:01.160 like ten minutes after you left, there was this headline 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:04.000 about you leaving a comment about how much money you've 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:05.720 lined up for six ' nine, And then there's some 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:08.240 audio that's out there now and we had just had this. 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:12.080 We just had this long conversation that was a little 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:14.960 I guess that wasn't out there yet, so I was like, yo, whack, 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:17.000 you gotta come back in. So this is the beginning 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:19.800 of the interview. You're gonna keep watching this. There's there's 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:21.839 a lot of gems throughout the rest of the interview, 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:23.880 but there is some six nine stuff that might be 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:26.680 a little dated. So whack, let me just start this. 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:31.080 Are you managing six ' nine? I'm definitely not, I 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:36.920 think at this time in six nine career, and from 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:41.240 what he's been through, the word manager is not appealing 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:45.640 to him. Right. It'll take for anybody that wants to 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:48.560 beat at the six nine you're gonna have to be 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:50.359 in a box with him and do a bunch of 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:53.400 business for him to establish some type of trust. But 0:05:56.480 --> 0:06:00.320 I don't think six ' nine is manageable to a 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:05.960 point where he's gonna let somebody control the narrative. Would you? 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:12.080 What he will or has allowed is for me to 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:17.240 utilize his name and the buildings that I have some 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:20.600 say so in and relationships in to do some business. 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:23.680 If it's and it's there. If he came to you 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:25.400 and said, whack, I would want you to be my manager, 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:32.800 would you consider it? At this point in time, I 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:36.680 couldn't be one hundred percent management of sixty nine. Could 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:38.719 you be like a co manager with the Murder Murphy 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:41.440 with the Murder Murphy guy whoever? Definitely I wouldn't do 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:44.560 that either. What I would do is I have a 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:46.719 lot of management teams out there, a lot of people 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:49.200 that I'm friends with that I'm real cool with, that 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:51.640 I know that understand this business like I understand it. 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:54.400 I would probably negotiate something with them and put them 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:57.159 in place. But at this time where he's at right, 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:04.920 a full time manager is not what he needs. He 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:09.920 just needs somebody that has the resources in the reach 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:13.320 to get things done, y'all. To remember, before he left, 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:15.600 he would run around with a bunch of street dudes 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:18.320 claiming to be a manager, right right. I used to 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:20.560 be the street dude that didn't understand the industry. So 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:24.240 I understand the difference between the street dude claiming the 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:27.680 title versus really living that title, you know what I mean. 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:31.720 So I think what a lot of people see, like 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:36.160 watch this, who's little nas X manager? I have no idea, 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:41.120 you know why? Because their management team operates from a building, 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:45.600 the cell phone to attorneys, and they send their little 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:49.360 assistant guy out to make sure shit's done right. What 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:52.560 you guys are used to whack doing is I'm hands 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:54.920 on with my artists. And we know, right, we know 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:57.680 like whack manager's blue face, we know whack managers games, 0:07:58.040 --> 0:08:01.040 j etcetera. Yeah, I'm hands on with our artists. So 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:03.880 when people see them, they see me. It's a it's 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:10.280 a direct thing. Right With a guy like six ' nine, right, 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:13.320 something like that probably will be set up. Would he 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:16.760 asks me one day, a whack could you set me up? 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:19.280 Or do you know these dudes? He probably would because 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:22.520 in a short period of time, all I've done was 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:26.120 you got a product right? Six Now, let's take away 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:30.120 all the bullshit. He's a product right when you're talking 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:33.120 about business, right, entertainment? If you have a product. If 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:36.960 I got this phone right, and this is the six ' 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:40.960 nine phone, right, and I know that I have distribution 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:46.600 reach in twelve countries because of my prior relationships, I 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:50.680 can box this phone up, mail it out to each 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:54.760 country my liaison and say hey, can you guys do 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:59.280 something with this phone. They're gonna say, well, whack, we 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:02.720 heard a few things about this phone. But are we 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:05.080 dealing with you directly? And I'm going to say, yeah, 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:08.600 you're dealing with me directly. You won't have to deal 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:12.480 with the guy on the phone, right And they say, okay, wa, 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:17.480 based upon me our relationship, yeah, we could distribute five 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:21.600 million phones a year for you, right, Okay, my attorney 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:24.920 will be in touch with you at that point in time. 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:30.599 Is just be a contract, a letter, direction and the signature, 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:38.559 so you know essentially what you're doing is contracting your 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:41.840 services to six ' nine. Know what I'm doing is 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:50.080 like making sure you have listen, he has a he 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:54.400 has a value to himself, right, right, And I have 0:09:54.520 --> 0:10:00.000 resources for the things that's valuable about this young kid. Right. 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:03.120 So simply what I'm doing is I'm just bringing them together, 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:07.040 bringing them together, and you're getting your cut. That's it obviously, 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:12.480 Oh definitely, yeah, that's business is business. So and it's 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:17.240 not an extra cut on top of a cut, because 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:19.640 he is who he is, you know what I mean. 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:22.960 Some people will say, well, fuck that, you're putting your 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:27.199 name on the line. You should get fifty what you 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:30.320 get what you would normally get, right, And you know 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:32.520 some people might want to play it like that, right, 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:35.320 But in my world, it's like, you know, greed, you 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:38.000 know you greed, don't get you nowhere? You know what 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:41.640 I mean, Do what you do, take it, keep it moving. 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:44.400 Maybe y'all do some more business later. Maybe you won't. 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:47.120 But if you gouge a person, it's a good chance 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:49.120 you won't, especially if you know that they're in a 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:51.400 situation where they might have to do it. You know 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:53.840 what I'm saying. A person knows that, then they know 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:58.160 that he could have gouged me, but he didn't. You 0:10:58.160 --> 0:11:01.400 know what I mean. I've gotten all kind of phone calls, movies, 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:06.760 NFT touring, I mean, fucking you name it, crazy shit, 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:10.000 God damn, I ain't gonna name it. Endorsement where people 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:16.240 contact my attorney. My attorneys, Yeah, my attorney. Where they 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:18.559 contact my attorney because they're like, well, wha we can 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:21.559 can we talk to you? We've been wanting to do 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:26.120 this business, right, so can we send this to you 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:29.959 and can you let us know if this could happen. Hey, listen, bro, 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:33.560 I understand why guys in the streets are saying what 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:37.040 they're saying about you working with them. The reason why 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:39.640 I understand them because I used to be that guy 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:44.280 when I was like fifteen years old. Right. I don't 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:46.920 expect that guy to understand what I'm doing because that 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:51.400 guy hasn't elevated. He don't even understand business. He probably 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:54.120 still hustling in the streets whatever he's doing, right, So 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:56.480 I understand his mindset because I used to have that 0:11:56.600 --> 0:12:02.960 mindset right when I was adolescent. Right. Corporate America in 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:07.920 the streets two total different worlds. I mean, that's what 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:10.240 you're saying. You'll see later on in the interview where 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:14.960 you were talking about the people up on that fiftieth floors. 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:16.520 Not a lot of people get on that floor, you 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:20.960 know what I mean? Hand picked me and said you're 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:22.920 gonna be the one to go in and represent us 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:25.120 and none of that. You know what it does sound 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:27.840 like though, you're kind of like doing a lot of 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:31.840 stuff that a manager would do for him. Well, I 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:34.240 don't know, because I can't tell you what six nine 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:37.560 life can consist of. Day to day. You asked me 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:39.800 about game ray Jo Blue Face. I can tell you 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:42.720 pretty much day to day, week by week, of course, 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:46.760 month by month on what we gotta do. I can't 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:48.800 tell you what he's doing. I can't tell you where 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:51.080 he is right now, what he has to do tomorrow. 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:55.360 The only thing I can elaborate on if somebody tells me, 0:12:55.800 --> 0:12:58.079 hey man, we want to do a tour from January 0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:01.040 fifteenth to the fucking March, and I could say, well, 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:04.040 from January fifteen, he'll be on tour in Europe, right, 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:07.079 if that was the case, right, I know that because 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:10.040 it's been contracted. So I don't, you know. I don't 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:12.640 know what his day to day, what he's doing, what 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:16.640 other situation he's doing, all his deals and all his paperwork. 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:19.040 I don't know who's overseeing those things. Some would say, like, 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:22.640 at least from my perspective, I think like, if he's 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:26.199 ever going to be relevant again musically, he almost needs 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:29.600 a Whack one hundred. No, because I'm not saying I 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:32.559 don't mean don't. I don't make his music. I wouldn't 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:34.200 know how to make his music. But I just think 0:13:34.240 --> 0:13:36.680 it makes the six ' nine pill a little easier 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:40.200 to swallow. If Whack one hundred is that's what y'all 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:44.880 keep getting it wrong at the whack one hundred crowd, right, 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:48.800 is no different than the blue Face crowd. They don't 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:51.600 give a fuck what I think now. The game crowd 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:55.760 is my crowd, right. It's people from my generation and 0:13:55.840 --> 0:14:00.200 a little under me that that's his fan base. The 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:02.280 six nine crowd wouldn't give a fuck if it was 0:14:02.320 --> 0:14:05.000 Whacked one hundred, the daff he duck or nobody at all. 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:07.960 They're into his music. I couldn't even tell you the 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:10.680 chemistry of this young man's music. I don't know what 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:13.040 producers he worked with. You haven't been helping him at 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:15.559 all with music. Feature has never been in the studio 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:18.200 with him. I've never done anything like that. I don't 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:21.680 feelly need a feature personally. But you've heard the new music, 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:25.880 oh definitely. And we heard about four songs. What's your 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:28.560 opinion on it? Oh, he got some hits, their hits. 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:32.920 I've called in people that hate his guts Radio hate 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:38.040 sixty nine guts, and they said, I hate the fact 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:42.360 that I like this music and I hate this individual. Right. 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:47.160 The product is the product. It ain't you know, it's 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:53.920 not my cot of music, right, but his fan base, Yeah, 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:58.760 he's there. What I will say is, if I have 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:02.880 anything to do with any other music, we definitely have 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:09.280 understanding that there's no disrespecting anybody dead at homies or 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:13.200 any artists in particular. You know what I'm saying, Whatever 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:16.800 I touch gotta be just music. And I think really 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:18.520 he's got a point in his career where he shouldn't 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:20.840 have to do that anymore anyway. So you guys, you 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:22.720 pretty much have an agreement with him that if you 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:25.280 do get involved on the music side, that the disrespect 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:28.320 has to anything I touched. I mean, I don't know. 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:31.320 He may go do some other random shit. That's his business. 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:34.360 I can't control that. But if I'm touching it, right, 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:37.320 it it can't be you know what I mean. You're 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:41.320 talking about you know, somebody's dead, shit like that. I'm 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:44.280 really not off into that, so is that something that 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:46.040 you think is gonna end up happening where you're kind 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:49.800 of like helping him out on the music side. I've 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:53.280 looked at his contracts because I needed to understand that 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:58.760 was what, you know what I mean, because it's a 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:01.560 lot of things that goes along with you know, publishing 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:05.120 deals and things of that nature. He still signed to 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:08.120 who he's signed to, right, you know, that's still their business, 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:10.960 you know. But I will look at his contract because 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:13.360 if he has any questions about what's going on or 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:14.800 what's not going on, I need to be at a 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:17.840 answer that, right which you know, I got a legal team, 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:20.640 you know, my attorney, sam Rod Singe, is one of 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:23.200 the best in the business. So he overlooks everything to 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:25.360 see what's what was what. And I'm not really here 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:27.720 to rough on these feathers out of his label to 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:31.280 take him from one label to another label. His comfort 0:16:31.400 --> 0:16:33.960 zone is whereas being it really needs to be there, 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:37.160 right But if a questions asked to me, I need 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:39.760 to be at a answer that I understand that because 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:42.560 if I'm doing business over here, let's say a movie situation, 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:45.840 they say, hey, we want him to do the soundtrack, right, 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:49.320 I need to understand what his obligations to his label is. 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:51.760 Can this be done, does just have to run through 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:55.000 his label? Just something that can be done independently, you know, 0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:57.680 without going that direction. So that's the reason why I 0:16:57.680 --> 0:17:00.000 look through those type of things. That forty three million dollars, 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:02.600 there's a business you've set up a little more than that, 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:04.359 but a little bit more than that, right. You gotta 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:06.760 remember you're talking about the artists. Man, that's good for 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:09.280 like five eight thousand tickets that ain't never been on tour. 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:12.560 You do the math, you know what I'm saying. You know, 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:16.560 so that so that that vastly is live show. You 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:18.399 got it. You got no you gotta fight in there's 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:21.879 twenty million, so the blue face fight. Yeah. You got 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:25.160 NFT deals in there, multiple NFT deals and you set 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:30.040 all this up crazy. Uh. You got publishing situations, that's crazy. 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:34.359 Your quarterbacked at all. You got torn European torn, that's 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:39.200 you know, that's crazy. You gotta remember all my tours 0:17:39.920 --> 0:17:42.840 I route, me and my wife route and you guys 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:46.679 have been on other side. N ain't finn but all 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:49.520 my tours I route. You know, my wife does all 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:54.720 the coss and the cleans, passport cleanses. I do the booking, 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:58.920 all the hotels, the back line gang, travels with a band, tour, 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:01.160 busting flights, do it all. I do all that shit 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:04.040 on his phone. You know, agency ain't none of that, right, 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:08.119 So uh, it's nothing all the fairy costs or bus routing. 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:10.720 You remember, I own the truck, had been twenty some years, 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:12.959 so it's the same shit. So I do all of that. 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:16.679 So it's just a simple text blast. Hey listen, you know, 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:19.520 give me some feedback on what you guys could do. Right. 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:23.120 He's just a ring he's an arena artist. So when 0:18:23.160 --> 0:18:25.160 you think about it's a lot of money, man, Yeah, 0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:27.680 you think about it. You you talking about a minimum 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:30.199 of three fifty that can go up to access to 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:32.719 you know, once you do your back in, cut up 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:36.040 or your splits at the doors a merger seven hundred 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:38.399 and fifty thousand dollars a night. So it really ain't 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:40.439 no money that I put out. There's some money, but 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:43.000 if you do the math on that, it accumulates, it 0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:46.200 adds up, and I mean, yeah, I mean shit, that's 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:48.720 a lot. Do we know any sort of window when 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:53.080 we can this fight's gonna happen. It's not gonna happen 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:57.520 in the US, Okay, So it's gonna probably be overseas 0:18:57.600 --> 0:19:00.679 Middle East, Saudi Araby somewhere you buy or something, probably 0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:04.280 not Dubai. Dubai and Bahrain may come together and do 0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:06.399 something with Saudi. Sadi's kind of making a move to 0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:09.320 be like Dubai. So we're looking at putting it over there. 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:11.879 The good thing about it is the actual Minister of 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:14.960 Finance of Entertainment over there is the one handling it personally. 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:18.959 Oh wow, but that's a resource. That's a resource I 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:21.480 had that you can reach straight there. I ain't gotta 0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:23.879 go over here, so you know, at the end of 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:26.680 the day, Uh, it'll happen over there. But even with that, 0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:29.080 that's just a flat feed. You know, once it's announced, 0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:32.160 now you got to think about, you know, taking Starbucks 0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:35.919 and paper view shows and maybe you know, fucking coke sponsorship. 0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:39.439 Sponsorship is gonna come. So that's just business man, and 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:42.720 I don't know, maybe I've I've matured and grown to 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:46.159 a point to where some ship don't matter to me, 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:48.440 the ship that we used to matter to you, that 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:50.399 would keep you up at night, like don't don't I 0:19:50.400 --> 0:19:53.000 mean at the end of the day. I mean, listen, 0:19:53.080 --> 0:19:54.800 it was a point in my life, this real ship 0:19:55.400 --> 0:19:58.399 that if I was out in public and uh me 0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:01.760 and my homeboys and somebody told me, yo, that's that 0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:06.520 nigga cav dog for motherfucking San Diego. Yeah, we rolled 0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:09.440 him up off the yard because he snitched on the nigga. Right, 0:20:10.280 --> 0:20:12.320 I'm not from San Diego, I wasn't on the yard, 0:20:12.359 --> 0:20:13.840 don't know him. At a point in my life, I 0:20:13.880 --> 0:20:18.040 had have did something to that man, just because of 0:20:18.080 --> 0:20:22.320 the politics that I was under. Right today, you could 0:20:22.320 --> 0:20:25.680 tell me, hey, yo, that's such and such, such and such, 0:20:25.720 --> 0:20:28.040 such and such, such and such. I don't give a 0:20:28.080 --> 0:20:31.359 fuck business south of the mind, it's not my business. 0:20:31.640 --> 0:20:33.520 Whoever need to deal with that, need to deal with 0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:39.840 that for real. Now, I'm a strong belief in street business, 0:20:39.920 --> 0:20:45.000 street conversation, street talk, my homeboys, in my neighborhood, other 0:20:45.080 --> 0:20:47.680 domus or whatever the fuck. You know what I mean. 0:20:47.680 --> 0:20:49.680 I would never use the value of a bag of 0:20:49.800 --> 0:20:52.640 any of that to bring that around six ' nine, 0:20:52.680 --> 0:20:54.680 because that was part of his problem. When that element 0:20:54.720 --> 0:20:57.840 comes around, he feeds off into it, and I really 0:20:57.840 --> 0:21:00.879 think he needs another element around him. He needs a 0:21:00.920 --> 0:21:04.440 more him leaning into the YouTube shit. He he needs 0:21:04.440 --> 0:21:09.280 a more uh you know, uh, you know Todd of 0:21:09.359 --> 0:21:14.840 the creator type surrounding around. Here's somebody that's now what 0:21:14.880 --> 0:21:16.680 Steve will do it, which is perfect. I don't know 0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:18.560 if you know the Milk Boy dudes, but that's he's 0:21:18.560 --> 0:21:20.480 on the Milk Boys like every week. I think that's 0:21:20.520 --> 0:21:22.320 like right up his ye. He needs to get in 0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:24.280 his lane, bro, and be around his people, you know 0:21:24.280 --> 0:21:26.760 what I mean, and how to proper people around you 0:21:26.960 --> 0:21:30.639 know what I mean, like like my my demographic and 0:21:30.760 --> 0:21:34.480 what I bring is not what needs to be around 0:21:34.600 --> 0:21:37.159 him every day. You know, I got a little crazy 0:21:37.200 --> 0:21:39.560 crip nigga. I got game. That's a g par rule, 0:21:39.880 --> 0:21:41.320 you know what I mean. I got ray J. That 0:21:41.680 --> 0:21:43.600 is what he is, you know what I mean. So 0:21:44.080 --> 0:21:47.800 I gotta maintain those elements to make sure my people 0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:51.600 are straight. I can't put that around that because it's 0:21:51.640 --> 0:21:54.640 totally contradicting of what I'm saying. He shouldn't have never 0:21:54.680 --> 0:21:58.040 been a part of you. You and my son have 0:21:58.160 --> 0:22:00.560 had some words before on the internet. He's someone who 0:22:00.640 --> 0:22:03.000 used to be affiliated with the game back in the day, right, 0:22:03.840 --> 0:22:06.040 I mean, he went on a tour too, right, right right. 0:22:06.040 --> 0:22:07.159 I didn't know if he was ever a Black Wall 0:22:07.200 --> 0:22:09.679 Street official. Never he went on the tour. But uh, 0:22:09.960 --> 0:22:13.080 you know, he's somebody who's out no disrespect my sound is. 0:22:13.280 --> 0:22:15.240 I'm not gonna say it was my man. He's still 0:22:15.280 --> 0:22:17.800 my man. It was just getting a little weird because 0:22:17.840 --> 0:22:21.479 we've always done our debates, right, That's what I'm gonna say. 0:22:21.480 --> 0:22:24.480 It seems like it's a at least a semi respectful 0:22:24.600 --> 0:22:28.720 disagreement at least. But he's I seen some ship last 0:22:28.800 --> 0:22:30.320 night he put up. Yeah, I saw what he put 0:22:30.359 --> 0:22:32.199 up last night. And I think my son is like 0:22:32.600 --> 0:22:34.840 a great leader, like you know, as far as you 0:22:34.840 --> 0:22:37.000 know everything that's been going on, I mean just always 0:22:37.040 --> 0:22:39.119 you can look for my song for like direction as 0:22:39.119 --> 0:22:40.560 far as like if you want to know, I mean, 0:22:40.560 --> 0:22:42.280 that's what he turned itself into. It's kind of like 0:22:42.320 --> 0:22:47.040 this like Martin Luther King type revolutionary type that which 0:22:47.040 --> 0:22:49.159 is kind of confusing because like, yo, listen, if you 0:22:49.280 --> 0:22:53.520 that stop talking about street ship, M my sign and 0:22:53.640 --> 0:22:56.479 like that's my man. I didn't see my son by myself. 0:22:56.480 --> 0:22:59.119 It's all love, like you know, it's people that's in 0:22:59.160 --> 0:23:00.840 New York got a ten. They didn't hurt me and 0:23:00.920 --> 0:23:04.000 my sign orchestrating shit over the phone. That's my man like, 0:23:04.040 --> 0:23:06.159 I don't want to see nothing happen to him. I 0:23:06.160 --> 0:23:08.440 don't got that and my heart to do nothing to him. 0:23:08.560 --> 0:23:11.120 But on the flip side, my sign, I had nothing 0:23:11.160 --> 0:23:12.919 to say when you was running around with Vlad. We 0:23:13.000 --> 0:23:16.400 all knew. You know, Rick Ross never said nothing either 0:23:16.640 --> 0:23:20.760 Nigga suwing Rick Ross lawsuits, criminal cases and filing shit. 0:23:21.040 --> 0:23:22.800 You know what I'm saying, because Rick Ross then whooped 0:23:22.800 --> 0:23:26.800 on Blad ass talk street shit. You run around with Blad, 0:23:26.800 --> 0:23:28.320 but you know why he was running around with Lad 0:23:28.359 --> 0:23:31.800 because Vlad was giving you your exposed platform, your platform, 0:23:32.119 --> 0:23:35.639 which is business understood. That was business understood that You 0:23:35.760 --> 0:23:38.720 wasn't runing around with Blad saying Nigga this Blad TV 0:23:38.880 --> 0:23:41.320 or nothing Nigga would ever come with. You wasn't doing that. 0:23:41.520 --> 0:23:44.280 You were utilizing that platform because Blad is a big 0:23:44.320 --> 0:23:47.159 plat shoot and you were doing your rap thing or 0:23:47.160 --> 0:23:49.560 whatever it is you was doing, and I was working 0:23:49.640 --> 0:23:52.240 for you. Right, I didn't say hey, my sign and 0:23:52.359 --> 0:23:55.400 we talked. I got long phone history with my sign 0:23:55.840 --> 0:23:59.480 text messages for years, right, ain't my sign on some 0:23:59.520 --> 0:24:03.399 real streets. Shit, what you're doing with blag You know 0:24:03.480 --> 0:24:07.479 he's doing that the Rick ross A Street nigga. It 0:24:07.520 --> 0:24:10.520 was business. But I don't know. I think maybe he 0:24:10.560 --> 0:24:12.800 runs out of things to talk about. And if he 0:24:12.880 --> 0:24:15.280 runs out of things to talk about, by all means, 0:24:15.320 --> 0:24:17.640 as a brother, he can utilize my name to bring 0:24:17.680 --> 0:24:20.400 some publicity to him. I ain't mad at that. It's entertainment. 0:24:20.400 --> 0:24:23.800 I ain't tripping. I mean, that's that's not that's a yeah, 0:24:23.840 --> 0:24:25.359 I'm not a very mature way of looking at it. 0:24:25.400 --> 0:24:28.440 I'm not tripping. Okay, we talked before the camera's rolling, 0:24:28.560 --> 0:24:30.359 and I'm not going to use anything to all my 0:24:30.480 --> 0:24:33.600 people that it be known. Yeah, my sign and my 0:24:33.800 --> 0:24:37.960 book is not my enemy. Everybody that loved me that 0:24:38.040 --> 0:24:40.440 are just moved for me without saying nothing. I don't 0:24:40.440 --> 0:24:43.560 want nobody ever to approach my sign in a threatening 0:24:43.600 --> 0:24:46.399 way or question him about anything that got to do 0:24:46.480 --> 0:24:50.320 with WAG one hundred. That's between me and my soign period. 0:24:50.359 --> 0:24:54.199 You know what I'm saying. Period some real shit. I 0:24:54.280 --> 0:24:56.479 want to kind of peel the curtain back a bit 0:24:56.520 --> 0:25:01.680 without mentioning any direct names or albums. But you had 0:25:01.720 --> 0:25:05.040 said essentially let's have the conversation we have before the 0:25:05.080 --> 0:25:09.359 cameras rolling, but let's exclude all names, right that you 0:25:09.440 --> 0:25:16.200 had helped a recent project. Yeah, hit a crazy amount 0:25:16.200 --> 0:25:20.040 of streams its first week, and we're talking a big, 0:25:20.080 --> 0:25:22.560 big project. All the people guess in the comments, but 0:25:22.600 --> 0:25:24.159 you know, there's only been a few of these projects 0:25:24.200 --> 0:25:26.680 that have dropped this year that everyone's talked about. So 0:25:26.960 --> 0:25:31.520 explain what happened and kind of peel back the curtain 0:25:31.560 --> 0:25:33.199 of bit on the industry and how a lot of 0:25:33.200 --> 0:25:37.720 this I mean, listen, I'm gonna say it in hun terms. 0:25:38.800 --> 0:25:42.280 The process of music, it starts with the artists, the 0:25:42.280 --> 0:25:46.480 appearance of the artists, the you know, the studio time, 0:25:46.600 --> 0:25:50.600 the production, all that, mixed, mastering, write the video and 0:25:50.640 --> 0:25:54.720 all that. After that comes to marketing. Right. You can't 0:25:54.760 --> 0:25:59.920 spend to our indie guys teen fifteen thousand on the 0:26:00.119 --> 0:26:04.679 song and then nothing on marketing. Bigger the artist is 0:26:04.760 --> 0:26:08.280 the bigger, the situation is the bigger, the marketing budget 0:26:08.359 --> 0:26:11.639 is right, and when it comes to marketing, it's a 0:26:11.680 --> 0:26:16.840 real brainwashing process that people don't understand. Right, you have 0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:20.320 seeding companies, So what I mean by seeding is like 0:26:21.040 --> 0:26:25.840 you'll be looking up and you'll say little baby donates 0:26:26.200 --> 0:26:29.720 fifteen thousand to the schools for books. It'll be on 0:26:29.760 --> 0:26:33.240 a random thing, right, you don't understand it has you 0:26:33.359 --> 0:26:36.880 thinking about a little baby Little d Dog? Does one 0:26:36.960 --> 0:26:39.200 mean streams of twenty four hours? If you don't know 0:26:39.240 --> 0:26:41.160 who Little de Dog is, you're gonna hit that link. 0:26:41.160 --> 0:26:44.920 Who the fuck is is? Oh? Oh, follow, oh that's 0:26:44.960 --> 0:26:48.920 your song stream? Right. So it's a lot of other 0:26:49.040 --> 0:26:51.760 types of marketing outside of this, just putting your shit 0:26:51.880 --> 0:26:54.840 up right, just like radio. Bro, you work radio, of course, 0:26:55.400 --> 0:26:59.480 they have mixed show, right, and you have your ads, 0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:04.120 then you have your positioning leading up to your rotation. 0:27:05.080 --> 0:27:08.159 It's been songs. I've hated Lil Wayne, one of the 0:27:08.240 --> 0:27:13.840 greatest of all time. I hated Lollipop six weeks, seven 0:27:13.880 --> 0:27:17.400 weeks in the radio, two o'clock in the morning, I'm 0:27:17.480 --> 0:27:23.880 driving up the freeway. Ciga showed you on the thing right, 0:27:23.920 --> 0:27:28.879 Because I'm hearing this shit so much mentally, my mind 0:27:28.960 --> 0:27:30.960 started to like it. So it's the same shit when 0:27:30.960 --> 0:27:34.600 it comes to digital marketing, right, it's a whole nother 0:27:34.720 --> 0:27:38.320 process that happens for us to holler out an artists 0:27:38.320 --> 0:27:40.320 and keep it in front of you. And by that 0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:48.200 like boosting streams, I mean stream that's streams are boosted. Body, 0:27:48.440 --> 0:27:52.119 you know, by doing these things. Okay, people follow the 0:27:52.200 --> 0:27:56.760 number bro. Like let's say, for instance, we watched Kanye 0:27:56.920 --> 0:28:00.359 and Drake. They already have a fan base, right, but 0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:08.320 every day you saw Donda does this many streams right 0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:12.880 right now, let's erase Donda, Kanye and Drake, and let's 0:28:12.880 --> 0:28:18.000 say it's a little e right or True Card, one 0:28:18.040 --> 0:28:21.920 of my artists, True Card streams two millions twenty four hours. Right. 0:28:22.880 --> 0:28:25.359 The people that follow True Card that didn't know that 0:28:25.560 --> 0:28:27.960 was there are gonna go. And the people that don't 0:28:28.000 --> 0:28:30.119 know True Card, they gonna say, who the fuck is 0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:33.680 True Card? Let go see what they're talking about right now. 0:28:33.800 --> 0:28:37.119 Money was spent for these things to be put in 0:28:37.200 --> 0:28:39.680 front of you. So when you work in ten fifteen 0:28:39.760 --> 0:28:44.240 different platforms from your you know, the smallest own up right, 0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:50.360 that happens so that in turn drives the stream. Right. 0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:53.720 Not only does it drive the stream, it creates your 0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:57.560 fan base. That's your ticket sales at your concerts. So 0:28:57.640 --> 0:28:59.920 what you would do is have a digital marketing income 0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:03.280 definitely that you inside digital. You would drop a bag 0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:05.840 with and then there they would get your song on 0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:08.880 a ship ton of us your curated playlist that not 0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:11.240 not only that, even on your YouTube side. You know 0:29:11.240 --> 0:29:13.080 you can run ads, right, so you can do YouTube 0:29:13.120 --> 0:29:15.120 ads on one side. Then on the seven times you've 0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:19.040 been watching fucking uh the babies and then somebody person 0:29:19.160 --> 0:29:22.000 and I'm watching strictly that ship I'm working out, video 0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:25.640 comes along one of his right, there's about four songs 0:29:25.640 --> 0:29:27.800 come on to. This is how I discovered Rod Waves. 0:29:27.960 --> 0:29:31.000 No Ship Wow, crazy about Rod Ray one of my 0:29:31.040 --> 0:29:34.520 favorite young rappers. He's incredible. Right, I'm working out and 0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:37.880 I'm listening to uh, you know, uh the Baby Ship 0:29:38.520 --> 0:29:42.640 and uh out of Nowhere fuck song? Come on Now, 0:29:42.640 --> 0:29:44.600 I don't think rod Wave just came on because it 0:29:44.640 --> 0:29:49.720 came on. That's programming. Did what they did ad buys 0:29:49.800 --> 0:29:53.080 right from that, I'm now I follow rod Wave. I stream. 0:29:53.160 --> 0:29:55.000 It's now a day that's went by in the last 0:29:55.080 --> 0:29:57.960 year that I haven't listened to rod Waves music off 0:29:58.000 --> 0:30:02.400 of Spotify, right, and I've since then shared it. What 0:30:02.520 --> 0:30:05.600 about a hundred of my friends and that's my age 0:30:05.680 --> 0:30:08.080 and that's how this works. Fuck with this youngster. Now, 0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:11.160 I don't know how many people charity with and this 0:30:11.320 --> 0:30:14.360 hard as works not how many people like me discovered 0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:17.720 it like that? Right, And these are the things that 0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:20.400 people just simply don't know about. When people say the 0:30:20.480 --> 0:30:24.960 machine at the labels, not only is the finance there, 0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:28.680 but the politics of relationships there that says when certain 0:30:28.720 --> 0:30:32.040 labels called, they're gonna get a slide. You know what 0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:35.760 I'm saying. So you know it's it's it's I won't 0:30:35.760 --> 0:30:39.600 say it's a controlled thing, but it's definitely a machine. 0:30:39.600 --> 0:30:43.040 It's poll this happened. Where have you seen this happen 0:30:43.160 --> 0:30:45.800 where there's a project that's coming out and the label 0:30:46.640 --> 0:30:49.080 drops a bag to boost the streams. And I'm not 0:30:49.080 --> 0:30:51.560 saying that they're not organic streams because with a lot 0:30:51.560 --> 0:30:53.960 of these digital markets, and when you say stream boosting, 0:30:54.160 --> 0:30:55.920 I mean like it's not that people coming in and 0:30:55.960 --> 0:30:59.960 saying it's not like there's like a we're paying for 0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:03.000 these streams to be like this. Stream boosting comes in 0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:08.480 like different form, ten fifteen different forms. Right, you have marketing, right, 0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:12.640 So have you seen it where a label will literally 0:31:12.720 --> 0:31:16.200 drop a stupid bag to ensure their album gets to 0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:19.600 be number one for the week. Well, the insurance comes 0:31:19.600 --> 0:31:25.440 from first of all understand this. Labels know, right? You 0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:29.880 notice no other artists dropped the weeks of Kanye and Drake. True, 0:31:30.560 --> 0:31:34.360 we know who's dropping. For one. You don't fuck around 0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:37.040 with shit. Well Kanye dropped Sunday at eight am. But yeah, 0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:39.880 well you don't fuck around with shit like that, because 0:31:40.000 --> 0:31:42.640 now when you go might want to spend one hundred 0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:47.480 two hundred thousand dollars on the full digital marketing campaign. Right, 0:31:47.920 --> 0:31:49.920 you fuck around some shit like Kanye, that's like you 0:31:49.960 --> 0:31:53.360 spend twenty thousand dollars because you know what I mean, 0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:58.200 they just won't work one song, they'll work fifteen. Yes, 0:31:58.360 --> 0:32:00.720 you just stay out of that traffic. That shit bigger 0:32:00.720 --> 0:32:03.560 than you. You know what I'm saying. You don't certain 0:32:03.600 --> 0:32:06.040 people you don't fuck with. You just let them get 0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:08.400 out the way and you let it blow over for 0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:12.120 about three weeks or a month. Then you come in 0:32:12.120 --> 0:32:13.880 and drop your back. So when I say that, to 0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:16.240 say this, if a label is like, all right, we 0:32:16.280 --> 0:32:18.680 got a we got a marketing budget of a half 0:32:18.680 --> 0:32:22.160 a million dollars, right, they already know that half a 0:32:22.200 --> 0:32:26.160 million dollars they're gonna spend here there here YouTube you know, 0:32:26.200 --> 0:32:31.680 are seeding companies radio, you know, shit like this. You 0:32:31.720 --> 0:32:36.480 ever look with to Spotify, right, and you go to Spotify, 0:32:36.520 --> 0:32:38.520 way for everyone who dms me every day, you cannot 0:32:38.560 --> 0:32:41.080 pay to get on my platform. Listen anyway, You go 0:32:41.120 --> 0:32:47.000 to Spotify and let's say Rap Caviar, right, caller race picture. Yep, 0:32:47.640 --> 0:32:52.600 she's the She's the cover of Rap Caviar. I don't 0:32:52.880 --> 0:32:56.200 You don't realize if you going to Rap Countyard just 0:32:56.240 --> 0:32:58.480 to listen to the playlist. Soon as you see that, 0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:00.760 your first in your mind, I was gonna say, is 0:33:00.840 --> 0:33:03.160 let me check out the song. That's what I do 0:33:03.240 --> 0:33:05.280 to every time someone's on the cover, I go like, 0:33:05.680 --> 0:33:07.080 let me see what song's on here? From these monther 0:33:07.200 --> 0:33:09.680 you understand not one thing about Spotify. They pretty much 0:33:09.720 --> 0:33:13.000 hand picked who they want. Spotify give you a call 0:33:13.120 --> 0:33:15.000 like hey, we want you all to you know, to 0:33:15.040 --> 0:33:16.800 be the cover of this, this, this, this and that. 0:33:17.040 --> 0:33:19.920 But all this shit, right, it's things that are done 0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:22.920 to kind of because it's been done time and time again. 0:33:23.240 --> 0:33:25.720 We know what we spend this here here here there, 0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:31.000 based upon the artist is following. Now we can expect 0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:35.160 this kind of traffic. You know what I'm saying. It's 0:33:35.240 --> 0:33:37.240 just like lib rat shit. Bro, they know we get 0:33:37.280 --> 0:33:40.520 this motherfucker this dose, this happened, this dose. This is 0:33:40.560 --> 0:33:43.960 the same shit. So when you hear people saying that, yeah, 0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:45.880 you got a motherfuckers say what fuck, we're gonna spend 0:33:45.920 --> 0:33:49.360 three million, they know that three million is gonna guarantee 0:33:50.160 --> 0:33:54.320 organically after they do all exposure, three million should bring us, 0:33:54.880 --> 0:33:59.240 you know, three hundred four hundred thousand album selves. They 0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:02.000 know these things. I gotta figure out. It's to figure out, 0:34:02.000 --> 0:34:03.400 that's just what it is. Last thing I want to 0:34:03.440 --> 0:34:06.120 talk about without getting into the specifics of the incident, 0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:10.640 but really obviously when your artist, blue Face got into altercations, 0:34:11.120 --> 0:34:13.960 it's all over the internet right now. I don't want 0:34:13.960 --> 0:34:15.759 to get into what actually happened, but I do want 0:34:15.760 --> 0:34:19.279 to get into some of the the things that you 0:34:19.360 --> 0:34:22.319 were saying about this before we started the interview, just 0:34:22.360 --> 0:34:26.719 about like for any artist who's watching this, you know, 0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:28.920 about staying out of places where you're not getting the 0:34:28.920 --> 0:34:30.640 back like kind of you know, obviously you know, blue 0:34:30.640 --> 0:34:34.240 Face a great dude. Yeah, when you when you're an artist, 0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:39.440 you're a business. Regardless of what your homie say and 0:34:39.520 --> 0:34:43.080 whatever say, you're a business. Everything about you is a business. 0:34:43.120 --> 0:34:45.960 What you say, what you do? You know, if he 0:34:46.040 --> 0:34:48.520 has a car accident, it's not going to be you know, 0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:50.960 Jonathan poored at a car incident. It's gonna say Blue 0:34:50.960 --> 0:34:54.239 Face the rapper was involved in the car accident. The 0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:56.560 car incident has nothing to do with music. But because 0:34:56.560 --> 0:34:59.239 it's him, he's a business and you're a target. You know, 0:34:59.239 --> 0:35:02.000 in this situation, somebody pulled a weapon out on him, 0:35:02.040 --> 0:35:03.440 you know what I mean, They pulled a knife out 0:35:03.480 --> 0:35:05.960 on him. Man had to defend himself, you know what 0:35:06.000 --> 0:35:07.920 I mean. And when things start to happen, you know 0:35:07.920 --> 0:35:10.319 what I mean, when you're seeing camera footage, you're only 0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:12.800 seeing a part of it, part of it, you know 0:35:12.840 --> 0:35:15.879 what I mean. But once again, it's like, that's why 0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:20.160 I urge rappers to keep the proper tools around you. 0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:23.480 That's gonna absorb those things to where those things happen. 0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:26.719 The wall is around you to where they can't really 0:35:26.760 --> 0:35:28.960 get to you. You know what I mean. This is 0:35:29.000 --> 0:35:31.600 what security is for. I mean, you've been that wall before. 0:35:32.040 --> 0:35:36.359 I'll take I've taken that hit, you know what I mean. 0:35:36.440 --> 0:35:39.359 I mean, that's just me, you know. But unfortunately Blue 0:35:39.400 --> 0:35:42.000 Faces young man, he has a life, and I think 0:35:42.040 --> 0:35:46.360 his struggle with this music thing is sometimes he wants 0:35:46.400 --> 0:35:49.400 to be normal, and I'm trying to get him understand 0:35:49.560 --> 0:35:51.799 is you're not normal as much as you want to 0:35:51.840 --> 0:35:55.560 be normal. That's the downside to this ship. He's also 0:35:55.680 --> 0:35:58.600 extremely tall, good looking kid with tattoos, so it's not 0:35:58.640 --> 0:36:00.759 a very inconsect like when you go out there, it's 0:36:00.800 --> 0:36:04.680 like another one of his downfalls is is he's genuinely 0:36:04.719 --> 0:36:08.759 a nice guy. Is so he's not an assholder where 0:36:08.760 --> 0:36:11.480 if you walking up on him, he gonna be like, hey, 0:36:11.520 --> 0:36:13.719 get the fuck away from you, have people stop you. 0:36:14.120 --> 0:36:16.840 He genuinely is a nice guy. He's gonna talk, have 0:36:16.920 --> 0:36:21.840 a conversation, which opens him up to more if walking 0:36:21.920 --> 0:36:24.719 up he's on some bullshit, right, So what you don't 0:36:24.719 --> 0:36:27.400 see is a dude walks up and then blue Light 0:36:27.520 --> 0:36:30.640 being cool, Hey, how you doing ye, and then he like, hey, 0:36:30.840 --> 0:36:34.480 fuck your mama, spit sat him for some shit right now, 0:36:35.600 --> 0:36:41.000 the artist that's a human being reacts Now it's all 0:36:41.120 --> 0:36:44.759 blue Face did this right, And then that's where it goes. 0:36:44.760 --> 0:36:46.640 So that's the pros and constant this shit. You know, 0:36:46.680 --> 0:36:50.359 when you when you're that right, you can either be 0:36:50.719 --> 0:36:53.520 regular and not have nobody paying attention to you, and 0:36:53.600 --> 0:36:56.440 be a hell of an entrepreneur and get your money right. 0:36:56.560 --> 0:36:59.359 I've known entrepreneurs. At one point in time, shout out 0:36:59.360 --> 0:37:02.279 to white boy who had more money than everybody in 0:37:02.280 --> 0:37:04.640 the motherfucking club, was standing outside from the supper club. 0:37:04.680 --> 0:37:06.520 Couldn't get in because they didn't know who he was, 0:37:07.640 --> 0:37:09.279 you know what I mean. So when Game said, that's 0:37:09.280 --> 0:37:12.120 my part to bring him in, DJ Hollo Cold, send 0:37:12.160 --> 0:37:15.480 the bottles, halloo cold, yo, this is cold, this is cold, 0:37:15.480 --> 0:37:19.000 this is cold right now, his identity gave him face 0:37:19.239 --> 0:37:21.480 and people responded to him as if he was some 0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:24.240 type of celebrity in our city. Right, So the same 0:37:24.360 --> 0:37:27.640 rule applied, like once you get that light on you, 0:37:28.400 --> 0:37:32.760 it's what it is. It's a gift in the curse. 0:37:32.840 --> 0:37:34.800 It's a gift in the curse. So you got to 0:37:34.880 --> 0:37:37.600 know that people do ignorant. Look at the blue face 0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:40.919 in his fight, dude running the ring. He running the ring, 0:37:41.000 --> 0:37:44.440 holding his phone in one end, in one hand. He knew, like, 0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:47.760 I'm doing this because that's blue face. I was closer 0:37:47.800 --> 0:37:49.640 to him in blue face, but he like, shit, the 0:37:49.760 --> 0:37:54.400 draw the lights is blueface. So they gonna try and 0:37:54.400 --> 0:37:58.600 and I think, you know, he's young, he's full of life, 0:37:58.640 --> 0:38:00.919 he's full of energy, and some time you just want 0:38:00.960 --> 0:38:03.719 to have fun, just normal fun. And I think he's 0:38:03.840 --> 0:38:07.440 learning that that's a task you signed up to do. Yeah, 0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:10.520 I mean I think for anybody, right like you got, 0:38:10.520 --> 0:38:13.239 you can't overexpose yourself, you know, Like I think, like 0:38:13.680 --> 0:38:15.759 even me, Like I tell my wife, you know, I'm like, 0:38:16.480 --> 0:38:19.040 she wants to go walk down Melrow. I'm like, listen, sweetheart, like, 0:38:19.200 --> 0:38:21.799 now ain't the time for us to go walk down 0:38:21.800 --> 0:38:24.680 Melrose with your wedding ring on? Because I'm not gonna 0:38:24.680 --> 0:38:27.919 be Yeah, it's real ship, I'm not gonna know. I'm 0:38:27.920 --> 0:38:29.560 just not gonna be the one. Like like at the 0:38:29.600 --> 0:38:31.360 end of the day, like big Boy, how many places 0:38:31.400 --> 0:38:34.520 you see Big Boy is out roam and and and 0:38:34.560 --> 0:38:38.319 that's you know, I mean, people know who them. I'm like, yo, 0:38:38.360 --> 0:38:40.040 if I'm not getting paid the DJ, I'm not going 0:38:40.080 --> 0:38:42.799 to the club. You cannot know what big Boy looks like. 0:38:42.880 --> 0:38:45.480 Right And a minute he opens his mouth, you know 0:38:45.560 --> 0:38:48.120 exactly who he is because he's got You could be 0:38:48.120 --> 0:38:51.000 at McDonald's and not know who this dude would say, yeah, man, 0:38:51.040 --> 0:38:54.359 give me a whiffers ump. Hello, hey man, aren't you 0:38:55.040 --> 0:38:57.400 dude get all excited. Big boy might be having a 0:38:57.440 --> 0:38:59.960 bad day. Dude, Hey man, grabs big boy bout It 0:39:00.120 --> 0:39:02.880 showed a big boy throws elbow that see. You know, 0:39:02.960 --> 0:39:06.799 big boy assaults taxi dude, the McDonald's. This is why 0:39:06.800 --> 0:39:09.120 Big Boy ain't gonna go in the motherfucker McDonald's. He 0:39:09.200 --> 0:39:11.480 gonna send somebody else. He gonna go through the drive through. 0:39:11.680 --> 0:39:13.480 This is what this is there. It is. Well, look, 0:39:13.719 --> 0:39:16.120 we're gonna transition to the other part of the interview, 0:39:16.160 --> 0:39:18.200 which is an hour and a half long, and gotcha, 0:39:18.200 --> 0:39:20.799 there's a lot of gaming it. Appreciate you, man. It's 0:39:20.800 --> 0:39:25.200 one hundred interview y'all. Two then the bootleg cav you 0:39:25.239 --> 0:39:28.239 always have the wels have an open mic here, whack nah. 0:39:28.280 --> 0:39:32.160 I appreciate it, man, that cav. You know, people don't 0:39:32.200 --> 0:39:35.160 realize that you can vouch for this. I think about 0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:37.600 people when they know I'm not thinking about them because 0:39:37.640 --> 0:39:41.560 it was a few years ago. Well out nowhere, you 0:39:41.640 --> 0:39:44.880 got a call. I'm sitting with they setting up the 0:39:44.960 --> 0:39:47.720 real ninety two three and they going over their DJs. 0:39:47.719 --> 0:39:49.880 I'm like, yo, y'all need to bring cave to the city. 0:39:50.040 --> 0:39:53.759 I always tell everything. I always tell everybody, put you 0:39:53.880 --> 0:39:56.479 right on the phone, called me at dinner, at dinner. 0:39:56.520 --> 0:39:58.879 We was at dinner. This was in twenty fourteen. Yeah, 0:39:58.920 --> 0:40:01.640 we was at dinner and I was in Tampa and 0:40:01.680 --> 0:40:04.319 Whack hits my line, Hey, I'm a doc winner. Right 0:40:04.360 --> 0:40:07.120 now at dinner, they're launching a rated I'm telling him 0:40:07.120 --> 0:40:10.160 you're the guy. And I always tell everybody, Yo, Whack 0:40:10.360 --> 0:40:14.560 really selflessly just threw me their craziest lib. Watch this. 0:40:14.960 --> 0:40:18.160 You might hear from Whack every eighteen months. I don't 0:40:18.200 --> 0:40:22.800 do ship because now I'm gonna, you know, work this situation. 0:40:22.880 --> 0:40:26.359 I just genuinely do shit. I score amen, And when 0:40:26.360 --> 0:40:29.160 I can do something. It's a misconception about you. Man. 0:40:29.200 --> 0:40:32.600 It's like I think, like I always hear people be like, uh, 0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:34.680 even when they talk about you and they don't know you. 0:40:35.000 --> 0:40:36.560 I got to step in and be like, Yo, Whack, 0:40:36.600 --> 0:40:38.920 ain't that guy? Like people really think like you're like 0:40:38.960 --> 0:40:42.120 a really unreasonable dude, or like, you know, if you 0:40:42.200 --> 0:40:44.000 do something for them, you're gonna hang them out like 0:40:44.000 --> 0:40:45.920 on some sugar night shit over a balcony. I'm like, Yo, 0:40:45.960 --> 0:40:49.160 Whack is a one of the smartest, smartest guys in 0:40:49.200 --> 0:40:54.080 the music. And yeah, Sugar never hung anybody over the balcony, 0:40:54.280 --> 0:40:57.080 so Vanilla has never got hung over the bout definitely 0:40:57.160 --> 0:41:00.360 got hung over the balcony. But see, it's kind of 0:41:00.440 --> 0:41:03.560 like the kid that got kicked and all the teachers 0:41:03.600 --> 0:41:06.719 seeing was a kid doing hitting. Right, what people don't 0:41:06.760 --> 0:41:11.440 talk about is that little young black kid right who 0:41:11.480 --> 0:41:15.800 did the production for Ice Ice Baby, who Vanilla Ice said, 0:41:16.040 --> 0:41:18.080 fuck you, I'm not gonna give you four or five 0:41:18.120 --> 0:41:20.919 million dollars. People don't want to talk about how he 0:41:21.520 --> 0:41:25.120 went through every resource he could to get his money 0:41:25.840 --> 0:41:28.160 and the shit wasn't right. When he brought it to 0:41:28.160 --> 0:41:31.200 Sugar Night, she said, Sug, I'll give you half the money. 0:41:31.239 --> 0:41:33.880 You can get my money. Sugar said, young black brother, 0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:36.279 I don't want half your money. I just want what's 0:41:36.320 --> 0:41:39.480 reasonably coming to me. Let me have my attorneys contact 0:41:39.560 --> 0:41:42.600 them and figure it out. After eight or nine months 0:41:42.600 --> 0:41:45.960 of that not working, then he went through other extremes 0:41:46.000 --> 0:41:49.360 of getting it done. Now watch this. Is it sug 0:41:49.480 --> 0:41:52.280 Knight's fault that he had to go to that extreme 0:41:52.800 --> 0:41:56.080 or is it Vanilla ICE's fault for totally ignoring it 0:41:56.239 --> 0:41:58.279 when it was trying to be handled the corporate way 0:41:58.560 --> 0:42:01.960 fair enough. So you know, I just got to defend 0:42:01.960 --> 0:42:04.200 that because I know what's really behind that. It wasn't 0:42:04.239 --> 0:42:06.480 a thing with you came in and I you on 0:42:06.600 --> 0:42:09.239 no fucking verse. But all right, the fuck. You know 0:42:09.320 --> 0:42:11.719 what I'm saying, and let the record be shown, and 0:42:11.760 --> 0:42:13.560 do not fuck with Whack either. You know what I'm 0:42:13.600 --> 0:42:15.440 saying because I've seen the dark side of Whack as 0:42:15.480 --> 0:42:19.319 well personally me myself. Yo, listen, Whack, Thank you man. 0:42:19.360 --> 0:42:20.759 Let's get into the rest of the interview right now. 0:42:20.800 --> 0:42:24.440 All right, look Man, special Edition the one hundredth episode 0:42:24.480 --> 0:42:27.040 of the Blueleg Heap Podcast. What a Minor, The Minor, 0:42:27.040 --> 0:42:29.040 the Monitor, Episode one hundred. We had to do something 0:42:29.080 --> 0:42:32.080 special and bring my bro, my big brother Man Whack 0:42:32.160 --> 0:42:35.640 one hundred for episode one hundred. Welcome back this and 0:42:35.680 --> 0:42:37.319 a Minor. It's a whole lot of ways you could 0:42:37.360 --> 0:42:40.000 have went, so you know, it's honor to be Yeah. 0:42:40.000 --> 0:42:41.160 I was like, man, there was a couple of people. 0:42:41.160 --> 0:42:42.440 I was like, Man, we gotta get Whack back on 0:42:42.440 --> 0:42:44.680 the episode one hundred. It's only right man on the 0:42:44.680 --> 0:42:46.680 West Coast. Shit, Let's do it the way we supposed to. 0:42:47.000 --> 0:42:50.959 Welcome back. First of all, how has everything been going 0:42:51.000 --> 0:42:56.280 with you? Man? Because you've been all over every academics post. 0:42:56.320 --> 0:42:58.520 I mean, shit's been kind of crazy since you did 0:42:58.560 --> 0:43:04.440 the podcast. You know, you know, it's always a backlash, 0:43:05.080 --> 0:43:09.799 you know when you go against the grain, you know 0:43:09.800 --> 0:43:11.680 what I mean. So when you know, when you not 0:43:12.560 --> 0:43:15.960 flowing the way everybody else is flowing, you're gonna get 0:43:16.000 --> 0:43:18.520 that back. Last. Now, the question is can you stand. 0:43:18.560 --> 0:43:20.239 You gotta be able to stand the ring. Can you 0:43:20.320 --> 0:43:22.560 withstand that shit? You will stand the ring. A lot 0:43:22.600 --> 0:43:24.719 of people is you know a lot of people clickish, 0:43:24.840 --> 0:43:27.200 you know what I mean, and they caught up and 0:43:27.640 --> 0:43:30.279 you know who gonna continue to talk to them or not? 0:43:30.480 --> 0:43:32.600 You know what I mean. Unfortunately, a lot of people 0:43:32.640 --> 0:43:34.239 that I know and do business with, they have been 0:43:34.320 --> 0:43:37.680 long term relationships and uh they they called me and 0:43:37.760 --> 0:43:40.600 express what they don't like. But the brotherhood and the 0:43:40.800 --> 0:43:43.640 you know, the comrades, shit is too deep. I even 0:43:43.719 --> 0:43:45.799 got some that won't call me, you know, when they 0:43:45.840 --> 0:43:47.680 get over being mad, then they called me in there 0:43:47.800 --> 0:43:50.000 tell me what it was. But other than that, man, 0:43:50.040 --> 0:43:51.160 you know, you got to be able to stand, and 0:43:51.160 --> 0:43:52.640 you got to be your own boss and You got 0:43:52.640 --> 0:43:54.200 to know your own route, you know what I mean. 0:43:54.200 --> 0:43:56.320 You gotta know what you're doing with it. You know 0:43:56.320 --> 0:43:58.080 what I mean, And that's what it is. People sit 0:43:58.200 --> 0:44:02.719 back and because they don't know what you're doing, assumption 0:44:02.840 --> 0:44:06.480 when it comes to the to the human mind, they 0:44:06.600 --> 0:44:09.600 gonna always assume the worst. You know, I'm since then 0:44:09.680 --> 0:44:13.359 I think I'm Takshi signed to me six ' nine. 0:44:13.440 --> 0:44:17.560 This man is by me. Shit, I didn't put him 0:44:17.600 --> 0:44:19.880 on my neighborhood. You know, they come up with all 0:44:20.000 --> 0:44:22.359 kind of crazy ass shit, but you know, you gotta 0:44:22.440 --> 0:44:26.080 let them run wild with it. If you understand entertainment business, 0:44:26.400 --> 0:44:29.400 because that's the clickbait, that's what keep people talking about you. 0:44:29.880 --> 0:44:31.799 And hopefully you can put something in fun of the 0:44:31.880 --> 0:44:37.239 people right to further the conversation. Whack did this, this? This, this, this, 0:44:37.360 --> 0:44:40.640 oh year and this is coming out of this is 0:44:40.680 --> 0:44:42.759 going on. So you gotta know how to finessa. You 0:44:42.719 --> 0:44:45.319 gotta know how to work well. I think like we 0:44:45.520 --> 0:44:47.799 did an interview probably like four or five months ago, 0:44:47.840 --> 0:44:49.719 and in that interview you had said that you did 0:44:49.719 --> 0:44:51.520 not feel like six nine was a snitch. He was 0:44:51.520 --> 0:44:54.759 a civilian good So you said that way before you 0:44:54.840 --> 0:44:57.600 had even had any contact with this dude way before 0:44:57.640 --> 0:45:00.480 Roland Loud Weekend. I think I think the mis conception 0:45:00.560 --> 0:45:03.880 of that that is people saying like, well, he was 0:45:03.920 --> 0:45:06.520 doing what he was doing, you know what the people 0:45:06.520 --> 0:45:08.960 he was doing it with, and my whole thing is 0:45:09.000 --> 0:45:12.680 like those people should have never even had him involved 0:45:12.719 --> 0:45:15.240 in those things, you know what I mean. It starts 0:45:15.239 --> 0:45:17.080 with me from the beginning, you know what I mean. 0:45:17.520 --> 0:45:22.480 I'm not gonna take a hot rod race car and 0:45:22.520 --> 0:45:25.680 go cross country. I know somewhere in there, you know 0:45:25.760 --> 0:45:28.480 that ain't built for that. It's gonna blow up. I'm 0:45:28.480 --> 0:45:31.239 gonna take something that's standard, start the Cadillac, the Range, 0:45:31.280 --> 0:45:33.680 roll over some shit that's built for that to take 0:45:33.719 --> 0:45:35.640 that cross country. But then I'm not gonna take my 0:45:36.440 --> 0:45:39.399 Cadillac or my Range, roll with my Honda and try 0:45:39.440 --> 0:45:42.400 to do a compete in a quarter mile, you know 0:45:42.440 --> 0:45:44.360 what I'm saying. So it's like my whole way of 0:45:44.400 --> 0:45:47.160 seeing it is, yeah, I see what happened when went on, 0:45:47.239 --> 0:45:50.440 But you know, I knew that goddamn hot rod was 0:45:50.440 --> 0:45:55.479 gonna blow up before I got the Arizona. Motherfucker gets 0:45:55.480 --> 0:45:57.880 three miles to the gallon's running lean it's running hot, 0:45:58.040 --> 0:46:00.160 and I'm trying to go cross country and I'm I'm 0:46:00.160 --> 0:46:01.960 trying to do eighty on the freeway. It's gonna blow 0:46:02.120 --> 0:46:04.080 over heat. It's going over heat. So I felt like, 0:46:04.520 --> 0:46:06.560 you know, I understand why they did it, you know 0:46:06.560 --> 0:46:09.080 what I mean. You had a few people that was 0:46:09.200 --> 0:46:11.960 trying to figure out the music industry, you know what 0:46:12.000 --> 0:46:14.480 I mean. And you know, with dealing with artists, bro, 0:46:14.600 --> 0:46:16.279 you gotta know how to move them. You gotta know 0:46:16.320 --> 0:46:18.560 how to furnest them, and you got to know how 0:46:18.560 --> 0:46:20.239 to bow down to them and let them be the 0:46:20.280 --> 0:46:22.400 boss and be the employee to them. You know what 0:46:22.400 --> 0:46:26.600 I mean. It's a tricky game. So you know, I've 0:46:26.640 --> 0:46:29.920 always seen the kid day one. There's like it was 0:46:29.960 --> 0:46:32.400 a gimmick. It's a lot of artists that's a gimmick. 0:46:32.560 --> 0:46:34.879 A lot of dudes running around with tattoos on their 0:46:34.880 --> 0:46:37.839 faces and walking a certain way. They just got real 0:46:38.000 --> 0:46:42.120 dudes around them, and the real dudes around them gives 0:46:42.160 --> 0:46:46.279 them the persona that they're that so a lot of 0:46:46.280 --> 0:46:48.880 people might I mean, I think the argument is like 0:46:48.920 --> 0:46:52.319 he put hits on people's heads, right, He put money 0:46:52.360 --> 0:46:55.160 on people's heads. He paid people to shoot shooting people, 0:46:55.200 --> 0:46:58.840 et cetera. And I think the argument is, once you 0:46:58.960 --> 0:47:02.200 do something like that, you're you're a criminal technically, right 0:47:02.280 --> 0:47:06.480 like you you you've signed off on that lifestyle definitely, 0:47:06.840 --> 0:47:11.200 So what do you you know? Because watch Blow? Of 0:47:11.239 --> 0:47:15.200 course I love Blow. There was moving more goddamn cocaine 0:47:15.239 --> 0:47:20.720 than the law. A lile, right, But deep down inside, 0:47:20.719 --> 0:47:23.440 who was he? I mean, yeah, he was just a 0:47:23.480 --> 0:47:27.279 normal dude. Okay when the heat came? What did the 0:47:27.320 --> 0:47:30.719 normal dude do? What are you supposed to do? Right now? 0:47:30.719 --> 0:47:35.960 I was the guy playing blow? Right. Unfortunately, I'm subject 0:47:36.280 --> 0:47:40.080 to the politics, and I've been in these situations. I've 0:47:40.080 --> 0:47:43.640 been charged with murders that I know I didn't commit, 0:47:45.200 --> 0:47:46.839 and all I can say is I pleaded the fifth 0:47:46.920 --> 0:47:51.600 see you in court. My homeboys is sitting there. The 0:47:51.640 --> 0:47:55.440 people that know what they know, the details behind it. 0:47:55.480 --> 0:47:57.560 They didn't jump up and say, oh no it wasn't him, 0:47:57.560 --> 0:47:59.279 it was me. And you know what, they did what 0:47:59.360 --> 0:48:01.920 they supposed to. They supposed to be quiet. Right, this 0:48:02.000 --> 0:48:03.960 is a better situation if they put in the body 0:48:04.000 --> 0:48:06.120 on somebody that we all know didn't do it, I 0:48:06.160 --> 0:48:08.120 got a better chance of being in them, right. But 0:48:08.400 --> 0:48:11.279 I'm gonna sit down. I'm gonna spend some money, but 0:48:11.640 --> 0:48:14.200 this would come with it. I'm you know, I'm born 0:48:14.280 --> 0:48:17.400 and bred and I'm into this shit. I'm initiated into 0:48:17.440 --> 0:48:21.400 this right and everybody, no matter what, bro me and 0:48:21.440 --> 0:48:24.680 you right now could go to the marine's training camp. 0:48:25.200 --> 0:48:28.759 That don't necessarily mean we're gonna become a marine. You 0:48:28.880 --> 0:48:31.880 have to pass things and go through stages of things 0:48:31.880 --> 0:48:37.520 for them to say you are now that they can't 0:48:37.520 --> 0:48:39.720 this out. We're here for Marie. Put him on the chopper, 0:48:40.040 --> 0:48:42.040 send his ass up against that. You might he might 0:48:42.080 --> 0:48:43.480 have a gun in his hand. He might bust some 0:48:43.520 --> 0:48:46.080 shots in the right direction. We might see my nigga 0:48:46.120 --> 0:48:48.759 and detonate the whole motherfucker battalion because we don't know 0:48:48.800 --> 0:48:51.000 what we're doing with this grenada. We don't know how 0:48:51.040 --> 0:48:56.720 to move. So, you know, no matter what they tried 0:48:56.760 --> 0:48:59.799 to pain him to be right, you give a twelve 0:48:59.840 --> 0:49:01.880 years the keys to a Lamborghini, he gonna get in 0:49:01.920 --> 0:49:05.000 that motherfucker man, and he ain't gonna drive her like 0:49:05.040 --> 0:49:09.000 a Lamborghini. Shit, I can dry this. I barely know 0:49:09.040 --> 0:49:11.359 how to drive fucks, but I know to drive by 0:49:11.400 --> 0:49:14.440 My school might run up on the curb running to this. 0:49:14.600 --> 0:49:16.120 She ain't no telling what he's gonna do. When it 0:49:16.200 --> 0:49:18.919 comes back, you're gonna say, yo, you drove the Lamborghini 0:49:19.040 --> 0:49:21.080 like this. He didn't see it was a kid that's 0:49:21.160 --> 0:49:23.560 driving a car. That's all he's seeing. It wasn't supposed 0:49:23.560 --> 0:49:26.480 to be driving. So you tell him a dude like this, 0:49:27.760 --> 0:49:31.520 We're gonna do whatever you tell us to do. He's 0:49:31.560 --> 0:49:36.840 already intrigued by the streets, right right, right, So in 0:49:36.920 --> 0:49:40.400 his head he like, one side of him is like, 0:49:41.000 --> 0:49:43.480 damn they gonna I can tell him what to do. 0:49:44.760 --> 0:49:48.520 The other side is, you know, I'm a Collie cocking. 0:49:48.600 --> 0:49:55.279 Fuck it, Okay, do this, oh shit, do that? Oh shit. 0:49:56.400 --> 0:50:00.200 And so then you got people saying, well, because he 0:50:00.239 --> 0:50:03.239 was telling them these things, that makes them bad. Nah, 0:50:03.400 --> 0:50:06.160 no it don't. So let's get a few of the 0:50:06.160 --> 0:50:08.920 misconceptions out the way. Obviously, you're not working. You're not 0:50:08.920 --> 0:50:10.759 getting any money with six or nine outside of maybe 0:50:10.800 --> 0:50:12.359 a fight with blue Face. If they're not a fight 0:50:12.400 --> 0:50:14.520 with blue Face set up with him. So that's gonna happen. 0:50:14.719 --> 0:50:20.160 And that's the whole thing, right is that to me? Right? 0:50:22.760 --> 0:50:25.840 The streets and the music industry, Uh, they're not the 0:50:25.920 --> 0:50:29.520 same people in the music industry talk about the streets. 0:50:30.000 --> 0:50:32.040 If that dude that was doing the talking about the 0:50:32.040 --> 0:50:35.239 streets really did those things, his ass of being a 0:50:35.280 --> 0:50:38.200 penitentiary be incriminating himself, right, because most of the people 0:50:38.200 --> 0:50:40.239 who are actually doing that, as you've seen over the 0:50:40.320 --> 0:50:44.080 last couple of years, they got reco charges charges quick. 0:50:44.560 --> 0:50:46.680 I mean, who shisky is sitting down right now, one 0:50:46.719 --> 0:50:48.319 of the hardest rappers in the world. You don't shout 0:50:48.320 --> 0:50:50.600 out the nephew to a good dude, good youngster man. 0:50:50.840 --> 0:50:55.040 Similar respects to his father and his family. But so 0:50:56.120 --> 0:51:01.280 I've never personally seen the exist on the fiftieth floor 0:51:03.120 --> 0:51:07.560 say listen today, we're gonna determine if a little de 0:51:07.719 --> 0:51:11.120 doll get put on the hood. I've never seen that 0:51:11.160 --> 0:51:15.560 conversation on the fiftieth floor, right, And I've also seen 0:51:15.640 --> 0:51:18.839 them say you two dirty in them streets that come 0:51:18.880 --> 0:51:23.400 to the fiftieth floor. Right. So street businesses, street politics 0:51:23.440 --> 0:51:27.040 is just that, right, That's what it is. You catch 0:51:27.160 --> 0:51:30.239 me trying to take six y nine to somebody neighborhood, 0:51:30.239 --> 0:51:33.759 shoot the video or you know some crazy shit like that, 0:51:33.800 --> 0:51:37.040 I'm in total violation, right. I would never even bring 0:51:37.600 --> 0:51:42.520 my homeboys who will follow me into the fire around 0:51:42.560 --> 0:51:46.160 that because that's not their thing. They're not part of 0:51:46.160 --> 0:51:49.560 the business. They'll be there with me. Right. So whatever 0:51:49.560 --> 0:51:51.879 it is I did choose to do with him, that's 0:51:51.920 --> 0:51:54.000 why wasn't nobody with me with my wife and kids, 0:51:54.040 --> 0:51:56.719 which I said day one. You know my daughter's a fan, 0:51:56.800 --> 0:51:58.680 that's what that is. You know she don't give a 0:51:58.719 --> 0:52:03.359 shit about none of that. Right. But if I got 0:52:03.400 --> 0:52:05.799 an attorney on the fifty yeth floor and he got 0:52:05.840 --> 0:52:08.360 my email, I got his email and the email attested 0:52:08.360 --> 0:52:11.279 to him, and attorney says, hey, I see this, this 0:52:11.640 --> 0:52:13.640 is available. It's just something that he may want to do. 0:52:14.000 --> 0:52:17.040 And my attorney's talking to me. In this business, I'm 0:52:17.080 --> 0:52:21.960 definitely gonna conduct that business. I'm not the guy to say, 0:52:22.840 --> 0:52:25.240 fuck six ' nine. I want to see him starve 0:52:25.320 --> 0:52:28.360 to death. I want to see him die today and 0:52:28.440 --> 0:52:32.279 never make another die. I can say that that's not realistic. 0:52:33.480 --> 0:52:36.640 He's what he represents to his fans is bigger than me. 0:52:37.920 --> 0:52:41.120 I'm not his fan base. So what's driving his revenue 0:52:41.239 --> 0:52:44.560 is gonna continue to drive his revenue. Whether what we 0:52:44.920 --> 0:52:46.880 think about it or not, it don't matter you know 0:52:46.880 --> 0:52:51.120 what I'm saying. So I'm a businessman, right, I've done 0:52:51.200 --> 0:52:59.160 business with Jewish people, gay people, crips. You know what 0:52:59.160 --> 0:53:02.200 I'm saying. I've done business with all kinds of shit 0:53:02.280 --> 0:53:05.520 that may not like me. One of my head plumbers 0:53:05.560 --> 0:53:08.560 who gave me a twenty percent discount was a Nazi 0:53:08.640 --> 0:53:11.000 type dude. I can tell that, the big bed red, 0:53:11.040 --> 0:53:14.200 real red nig dude. But you know that was who 0:53:14.280 --> 0:53:16.440 he was. That had nothing to do with the service 0:53:16.480 --> 0:53:20.120 I needed. You know what I'm saying. So I'm never 0:53:20.200 --> 0:53:22.359 I'm always been the woof of my world bros. As 0:53:22.400 --> 0:53:23.919 a kid, you know what I mean. If I see 0:53:23.920 --> 0:53:26.160 it my way and I see a different way or 0:53:26.200 --> 0:53:29.279 a different lane, I'm gonna follow my lane. If I 0:53:29.400 --> 0:53:33.439 crash and burn following my lane, right, I can live 0:53:33.480 --> 0:53:36.640 with that. But if I crash and burn and starve 0:53:36.760 --> 0:53:41.520 to death following somebody else's lane, I can't live with that. 0:53:41.560 --> 0:53:44.920 That's fair. So you're let me ask you this because 0:53:45.000 --> 0:53:47.719 I think everyone respects you and your acumen as a 0:53:47.760 --> 0:53:50.600 businessman in the music industry. Right, I think you're one 0:53:50.600 --> 0:53:52.960 of the most brilliant minds in the game. You know. 0:53:52.960 --> 0:53:55.280 I always say, like there's a lot of misconceptions about 0:53:55.280 --> 0:54:00.840 you as a person. Would you like, obviously you're from Pacoima, 0:54:01.680 --> 0:54:05.120 your you know your your your reputation in the streets 0:54:05.480 --> 0:54:09.120 speaks for itself. Right at this point in time in 0:54:09.120 --> 0:54:12.480 your life, do you put the business first or being 0:54:12.920 --> 0:54:17.000 a Pyu first? Oh, parrus first when it comes to 0:54:17.000 --> 0:54:20.400 Paru business. Okay, break that down, because I think some 0:54:20.400 --> 0:54:22.160 people might look at what it is. Okay, this is 0:54:22.160 --> 0:54:23.840 what it is. You got some people that's from the 0:54:23.880 --> 0:54:25.640 neighborhood and they gonna be They're gonna do what they 0:54:25.760 --> 0:54:28.560 told to do, Okay, no matter what they want to do. 0:54:29.440 --> 0:54:31.480 And you got some people who do to dictating on 0:54:31.560 --> 0:54:34.359 what's being told to do. Some people that politic at 0:54:34.360 --> 0:54:40.480 the table was being told to do. My neighborhood hasn't. Uh, 0:54:40.560 --> 0:54:45.839 those are not my streets, right, That's where I'm from, right, 0:54:45.880 --> 0:54:48.920 let's get this right. When they were my streets, I 0:54:48.960 --> 0:54:50.760 woke up every day. That's where I got my money. 0:54:52.440 --> 0:54:55.480 That's where I protected the blocks every day. Yep. That's 0:54:55.480 --> 0:54:58.840 why I did my dirt, have my fun, My partying 0:54:59.400 --> 0:55:03.799 was right there like a hamster on those streets. Right. 0:55:04.080 --> 0:55:07.319 It's a whole nother team over there that that's they streets, right. 0:55:07.920 --> 0:55:11.440 I don't dictate or override what they choose to do. 0:55:11.520 --> 0:55:15.480 Those streets are being managed totally different today than they 0:55:15.480 --> 0:55:18.960 were my heyday. Right, things have changed. You know. We 0:55:19.120 --> 0:55:23.200 glorified selling dope, getting the money. All of them glorified 0:55:23.440 --> 0:55:26.000 how much dope they use today. You know who am 0:55:26.000 --> 0:55:28.680 out of judge that's their thing. You know what I'm saying. 0:55:29.080 --> 0:55:32.480 We signed our pants down, our fucking ankles. They just 0:55:32.520 --> 0:55:35.440 wear them tighter, you know, that's the thing. Right. So 0:55:36.120 --> 0:55:41.280 Paul ruebinness, it's just that six ' nine never mixes 0:55:41.360 --> 0:55:43.440 with that. He shouldn't have been mixed with that in 0:55:43.480 --> 0:55:45.759 the beginning when they was doing what they was doing 0:55:45.800 --> 0:55:48.960 out there, that should have never happened. I took anfence 0:55:49.040 --> 0:55:51.160 to him running around with the rainbow here in the 0:55:51.200 --> 0:55:54.719 red Bandella. That's something that I would never practice. That 0:55:55.440 --> 0:55:57.319 you would never have co signed if it was someone 0:55:57.360 --> 0:56:00.000 come out of LA. Wouldn't happen. It's not gonna happen, 0:56:00.080 --> 0:56:02.160 either you're that or you not. You know what I'm saying. 0:56:03.480 --> 0:56:09.040 My family business, it's just that, my business is just that. 0:56:09.160 --> 0:56:11.560 I mean, because if I was on some real parru 0:56:11.680 --> 0:56:16.120 street ship I wouldn't have signed blue Face fair enough. Right, 0:56:17.200 --> 0:56:20.480 it's real politics behind me signing blue Faces, deeper than 0:56:20.480 --> 0:56:25.080 people know outside of cripp and blood ship. You know 0:56:25.080 --> 0:56:28.560 what I'm saying. You know that maybe some of them 0:56:28.600 --> 0:56:31.520 don't know. It's a few of minds don't know. Right. 0:56:32.080 --> 0:56:36.200 So if I was like on some if dictated everything 0:56:37.160 --> 0:56:41.600 on the music side, yeah, it can't happen. I mean 0:56:41.600 --> 0:56:43.520 the end of the day, Snoop Dog wouldn't have been 0:56:43.520 --> 0:56:46.680 a death Row nor would dance a corrupt with Nate Dog, 0:56:47.200 --> 0:56:49.160 fair enough. But we all run around it with the 0:56:49.160 --> 0:56:51.360 death Row shirts. And that ship was really was built 0:56:51.400 --> 0:56:55.520 on the talents and skills of criptism and and and 0:56:55.640 --> 0:57:02.440 the business of a politics. So we've established that, right. 0:57:02.480 --> 0:57:05.640 So you know, obviously with the six nine thing, I 0:57:05.640 --> 0:57:08.080 feel like there's been like we had Glasses Malone up here, right, 0:57:08.120 --> 0:57:12.000 and glasses spoke. Glasses did not speak towards you in 0:57:12.000 --> 0:57:14.560 any sort of funny way. Right, Glass is gonna totally 0:57:14.600 --> 0:57:17.400 disagree with what I'm doing one million percent. That's my nepht. 0:57:17.440 --> 0:57:20.080 I know what he's gonna Glasses like, I think he's 0:57:20.240 --> 0:57:23.680 gonna see it. You gotta understand, Glasses, look at me 0:57:23.880 --> 0:57:27.919 like Nigga, that's one of our West Coast generals, right, 0:57:29.040 --> 0:57:34.080 but it's not the general that's conducting that business. You 0:57:34.200 --> 0:57:37.920 understand what I'm saying. Yeah, it's just like I'm not 0:57:38.000 --> 0:57:41.200 whack from Paru when I'm being dad to my kids, 0:57:41.600 --> 0:57:44.160 and you're not whack from Piru when you're brunning one 0:57:44.240 --> 0:57:47.880 hundred entertainment and definitely and looking for new town. I had, 0:57:47.920 --> 0:57:51.480 I had bro listen. I caught so much flack behind 0:57:51.520 --> 0:57:53.960 blue Face, the famous crip who had a song I'll 0:57:54.040 --> 0:57:58.960 called respect my crippet right right now. If I would 0:57:59.000 --> 0:58:04.080 allow all that those powers to be to dictate my business, 0:58:04.200 --> 0:58:07.640 it's a reason why I transition out of doing business 0:58:07.640 --> 0:58:10.080 in the streets of doing business in the building. I 0:58:10.160 --> 0:58:13.000 realized a long time, it's only profitable for so long. 0:58:13.520 --> 0:58:15.800 You get a two year run, eighteen running month run, 0:58:15.840 --> 0:58:18.560 three five year run, you know what I mean. Look 0:58:18.600 --> 0:58:21.080 at BMF for one. You know, these dudes is making 0:58:21.080 --> 0:58:23.160 a lot of money, but you know they've been gone, 0:58:23.320 --> 0:58:26.240 you know. You know what I'm saying, right, So it's 0:58:26.320 --> 0:58:29.360 kind of like, you know, I feel like slow and 0:58:29.400 --> 0:58:31.760 steady res the rates with me, you know what I mean? 0:58:32.040 --> 0:58:35.880 The long, long, more the longevity, the more longevity you 0:58:35.920 --> 0:58:38.040 had to doing something, the more successful chance of being 0:58:38.080 --> 0:58:41.200 successful at it, you know what I mean. So I 0:58:41.640 --> 0:58:45.360 don't expect everybody glasses says, he's just moving into the 0:58:45.440 --> 0:58:47.520 lane of being in exec You know, he got an 0:58:47.560 --> 0:58:49.760 art institute. Now, you know, he came to see me, 0:58:50.040 --> 0:58:51.240 you know what I mean a couple of weeks ago 0:58:51.360 --> 0:58:53.760 to figure out a few things. Right, he's moving into 0:58:53.800 --> 0:58:57.280 that and he's gonna cross those those thresholds where it's 0:58:57.280 --> 0:58:59.840 coming to some things that you know he wasn't supposed 0:58:59.840 --> 0:59:01.760 to be. Had ten believe it or not, caught some 0:59:01.880 --> 0:59:06.120 flat over signing g Malone. I don't I don't doubt 0:59:06.160 --> 0:59:08.640 that he Inglewood Blood Queenstreet. It's a bunch of rappers 0:59:08.640 --> 0:59:10.280 in the wood, like hold on, man, you could have 0:59:10.560 --> 0:59:13.800 did that. But g he he he equated six ' 0:59:13.880 --> 0:59:17.520 nine to being worse than Hitler. He said he is 0:59:17.560 --> 0:59:21.240 an evil, demonic man who's worse than Hitler. I wouldn't 0:59:21.280 --> 0:59:25.520 say he's worse than Hitler because the casually between the 0:59:25.520 --> 0:59:30.760 holocausts and uh, I'm just saying what eed nine yeah, 0:59:31.080 --> 0:59:34.720 eighty nine individuals who's laying down you know, you know 0:59:34.920 --> 0:59:36.560 a lot of people got to understand. You know, I 0:59:36.640 --> 0:59:38.520 kind of did a little research on a few days, 0:59:38.600 --> 0:59:40.800 and I ain't justified nothing that six ' nine did. 0:59:41.000 --> 0:59:43.680 And I think also, I think people think that you are, 0:59:43.720 --> 0:59:46.160 but if you actually watched the interview academnic, you didn't 0:59:46.160 --> 0:59:48.040 just find anything. I'm not justified nothing he did. I 0:59:48.080 --> 0:59:50.560 was really trying to really get him to understand what 0:59:50.600 --> 0:59:52.320 he was and what he never being, you know, when 0:59:52.320 --> 0:59:55.160 he came to that. But I think there is a 0:59:55.200 --> 1:00:00.000 slight misconception. Right, six ' nine did not send him 1:00:00.000 --> 1:00:03.400 he even body the prison. He ain't said nobody to prison. 1:00:04.000 --> 1:00:06.919 What he did was say the CELP of call to prison. Right, 1:00:07.360 --> 1:00:11.760 because everybody already was indictment, was indicted. They were all 1:00:11.800 --> 1:00:14.240 part of the same Rico case. They were all indicted already, 1:00:14.600 --> 1:00:17.120 uh ninety percent of them if you really gonna read 1:00:17.160 --> 1:00:20.480 their paperwork, right, was violating the street code, fucking right 1:00:20.520 --> 1:00:23.240 on their phone, saying things on their phone, doing things 1:00:23.240 --> 1:00:25.320 on their phone they weren't supposed to do. So whether 1:00:25.560 --> 1:00:28.080 six ' nine did what he did or not, they 1:00:28.120 --> 1:00:30.880 were still going to the penitentiary, right, So it wasn't 1:00:30.920 --> 1:00:33.400 like they arrested him and then they didn't know about 1:00:33.400 --> 1:00:36.439 everybody else. Then he's like, Nah, this dude, this dude, 1:00:36.480 --> 1:00:38.200 this dude, And they released him when he wore a 1:00:38.240 --> 1:00:41.800 wire tap to you know, to glide this dude up, 1:00:41.840 --> 1:00:44.400 this dude up. All y'all had y'all warrants, all y'all 1:00:44.400 --> 1:00:46.680 got pretty much arrested by the same time, you know 1:00:46.720 --> 1:00:48.600 what I mean when he went on the breakfast club. 1:00:48.760 --> 1:00:50.440 They all knew it was coming. He was trying to 1:00:51.760 --> 1:00:54.360 trying to disassociate it. He knew it, but it was 1:00:54.400 --> 1:00:56.280 it was already too late, you know what I mean. 1:00:57.040 --> 1:01:00.880 I think they only went and picked everybody up because 1:01:00.920 --> 1:01:03.600 the wire taps. He had something going on in Connecticut 1:01:03.760 --> 1:01:06.080 and they heard on the wire tap that they was 1:01:06.120 --> 1:01:09.400 gonna push up on him in Connecticut. That's when they're like, Okay, 1:01:09.400 --> 1:01:13.680 we're not gonna jeopardize this. It's time to pick everybody up, right, 1:01:13.760 --> 1:01:17.640 So they was going regardless. Right, brother, this man he 1:01:17.720 --> 1:01:19.960 could have went in there and kept it gangster and 1:01:20.040 --> 1:01:22.080 said fuck that, I ain't saying nothing. He would have 1:01:22.120 --> 1:01:25.360 just been in there with him. Nobody was getting out right. 1:01:25.960 --> 1:01:30.560 Everybody pretty much lined themself up. Taps on the wire taps. 1:01:31.160 --> 1:01:33.400 We've heard some of the leaked conversations and some of 1:01:33.440 --> 1:01:36.320 those wire taps, you know, was were not in favor 1:01:36.960 --> 1:01:39.960 of six nine. It was some of those cases they 1:01:39.960 --> 1:01:43.000 got it was crimes committed against him. So you know, 1:01:43.080 --> 1:01:45.920 whatever they had coming, it was coming to them anyway 1:01:46.000 --> 1:01:50.080 based upon whatever they was doing. Right, yeah, right, So 1:01:50.440 --> 1:01:52.120 at the end of the day, they was going anywhere. 1:01:52.160 --> 1:01:54.280 They was running the fucked up ship. You know, it 1:01:54.360 --> 1:01:56.880 was a sinking ship. And that's what it was. What 1:01:57.000 --> 1:02:00.800 he did was what I expected the guy from blow 1:02:00.840 --> 1:02:04.520 to dude. He turned back to who he really was, 1:02:06.240 --> 1:02:10.160 straight up. And that's why my people that's around me, right, 1:02:10.440 --> 1:02:13.080 those people that went to the military and got trained, 1:02:13.360 --> 1:02:16.360 that's what they kidnapped their motherfuckers. They sitting there torturing 1:02:16.360 --> 1:02:19.440 the motherfuckers what they trained to do. Say they motherfucker name, 1:02:19.480 --> 1:02:23.320 and they rank, and they they in they number. That's it. Now, 1:02:23.360 --> 1:02:25.240 you take a motherfucker that ain't been trained for that 1:02:25.320 --> 1:02:27.720 and skilled for that. That's why some people are just this. 1:02:27.920 --> 1:02:30.919 Some people mayvy seal, some people green beret. Right, it's 1:02:31.000 --> 1:02:33.120 it's a different thing. They not gonna send the death 1:02:33.240 --> 1:02:35.000 dude to send the Marines out to do the Green 1:02:35.040 --> 1:02:37.840 Beret job because they know if he get caught, he's going, 1:02:38.360 --> 1:02:40.320 oh yeah, the office over here and the such and 1:02:40.320 --> 1:02:42.880 such as over here and the generals over here. Right, 1:02:43.000 --> 1:02:45.760 So they send the Green Beret dudes in there because 1:02:45.760 --> 1:02:49.400 that's a different type of training versus physically, physically, mentally, 1:02:49.440 --> 1:02:53.680 and psychologically, right, because if they get caught, they trained 1:02:53.720 --> 1:02:57.439 to die with it, die by it. Uh. It's nothing 1:02:57.480 --> 1:03:02.280 about Takashi that tells you that he's gonna be able 1:03:02.280 --> 1:03:04.840 to withstand that pressure. It's not gonna happen. The pressure 1:03:04.880 --> 1:03:10.800 is strong. I even had some some real gangsters crack. 1:03:11.800 --> 1:03:14.080 You know. I tell people what the dude is willing 1:03:14.120 --> 1:03:18.360 to accept that twenty five. He may not be willing 1:03:18.360 --> 1:03:21.600 to accept that forty five. You know, motherfucker go find 1:03:21.600 --> 1:03:26.400 out what they are maybel living backwoods Alabama. Quick man, 1:03:27.000 --> 1:03:31.600 we got thirty years for you man. Fuck it. Whoo 1:03:31.640 --> 1:03:35.280 whoo woo woo woo wooh wooh wooh woom, disappear gone. 1:03:36.400 --> 1:03:40.120 Because he rather deal with it like that free than 1:03:40.280 --> 1:03:46.840 sit in that penitentiary but keeping it real while he 1:03:46.960 --> 1:03:54.080 watched others go fuck his baby mama. Yeah, his baby 1:03:54.080 --> 1:03:56.520 mama's moving on. You know what I'm saying go hit 1:03:56.520 --> 1:04:00.200 his spot. So this is just real shit, right and 1:04:00.240 --> 1:04:03.440 his kids. This is what happens. So and I tell 1:04:03.440 --> 1:04:07.320 people this, This is why. You know a lot of 1:04:07.360 --> 1:04:12.840 my soldiers right, the older they get, the less involved 1:04:12.880 --> 1:04:14.400 I make sure they are when it come to that 1:04:14.480 --> 1:04:17.200 kind of thing, right, you know, I try to move 1:04:17.280 --> 1:04:21.320 them into being professional businessman. Not to say that they 1:04:21.360 --> 1:04:23.320 are cracked, but I don't want to even put them 1:04:23.360 --> 1:04:25.240 in a position or a situation where they got to 1:04:25.240 --> 1:04:27.680 even think about it. They've got to think about that, yeah, perod, 1:04:27.720 --> 1:04:30.000 I mean I understand it, because at the end of 1:04:30.040 --> 1:04:33.640 the day, you don't ever want to you know. I 1:04:33.680 --> 1:04:37.640 feel like when you get yourself involved in that, it's 1:04:37.760 --> 1:04:40.120 not probably out of choice, it's out of environment, it's 1:04:40.120 --> 1:04:43.560 out of necessity. And the goal is having fun with 1:04:43.640 --> 1:04:45.560 something that that's not fun. What I'm saying is like 1:04:45.600 --> 1:04:48.160 the goal is though, like obviously, if you the goal 1:04:48.200 --> 1:04:53.200 would be to evolve and and get out of that eventually. Right, No, listen, 1:04:53.520 --> 1:04:55.680 I'm gonna tell you right now, my goal for the 1:04:55.760 --> 1:04:58.800 last three years has been to not even be on 1:04:58.840 --> 1:05:01.000 the West Coast at least reef four months out of 1:05:01.040 --> 1:05:05.200 the year, and you be in China working on ship home. 1:05:05.680 --> 1:05:07.760 I'm by a coastal. I live on these coasts when 1:05:07.760 --> 1:05:11.400 I want to, right, So that's now my goal is 1:05:11.440 --> 1:05:13.480 to I on'tly want to be here six months out 1:05:13.520 --> 1:05:16.280 the year. You know, I want to spend two months 1:05:16.720 --> 1:05:20.240 overseas conducting business, you know what I mean, and then 1:05:20.280 --> 1:05:23.360 I can spend another month vacation in another three months 1:05:23.640 --> 1:05:27.720 this other places that I need to be. I don't. 1:05:28.160 --> 1:05:30.120 I don't want to run the hood. I want to 1:05:30.160 --> 1:05:33.600 position myself to come back and control the hood by 1:05:33.680 --> 1:05:38.000 means of real estate businesses. You know, my ultimate goal, 1:05:38.080 --> 1:05:40.640 and my ultimate goal is to come back and buy 1:05:40.680 --> 1:05:45.000 my projects. That been the goal of mine is to 1:05:45.000 --> 1:05:47.920 come back and actually purchase my projects. And I can't 1:05:47.920 --> 1:05:50.520 get that done in the hood because whatever I can 1:05:50.560 --> 1:05:52.280 do in the hood, or but have to do in 1:05:52.320 --> 1:05:55.440 the hood, it's gonna hinder me from having the proper documents, 1:05:55.480 --> 1:05:58.160 paperwork and cash flow to go do that. You know 1:05:58.200 --> 1:06:02.240 what I'm saying. I got to come back a business. 1:06:02.280 --> 1:06:04.640 I gotta come back a mogo to do that, you 1:06:04.680 --> 1:06:06.960 know what I'm saying. So, and I'm not knocking. What 1:06:07.000 --> 1:06:09.880 I want to be is is to those in my 1:06:09.920 --> 1:06:14.600 neighborhood who not being brainwashed by those as my age 1:06:14.600 --> 1:06:17.440 and older than me and salty and mad because they 1:06:17.440 --> 1:06:20.200 didn't find their way out. Say well, look, we know 1:06:20.320 --> 1:06:23.000 this dude was this, this did time, put in work, 1:06:23.080 --> 1:06:25.480 did all the crazy shit and all that, and he 1:06:25.640 --> 1:06:27.919 was able to turn it around and do that. Do that. 1:06:28.120 --> 1:06:30.640 I got a g deep central jevenile hall. If I'm 1:06:30.680 --> 1:06:33.040 able to do it, it ain't nobody in my neighborhood 1:06:33.120 --> 1:06:36.040 is not able to do it. I didn't. I didn't. 1:06:36.360 --> 1:06:39.040 My one hundred percent of my success our music. And 1:06:39.080 --> 1:06:41.479 I don't think my big my biggest success is gonna 1:06:41.520 --> 1:06:44.600 be music, because really I look down on myself for 1:06:44.800 --> 1:06:47.360 doing what I do in music because I'm still depending 1:06:47.400 --> 1:06:49.880 on another man. I wake up in one of my 1:06:50.000 --> 1:06:52.600 artists and there's some crazy shit. You know, this shit, 1:06:52.680 --> 1:06:55.360 and this shit it affects the business men. You know, 1:06:55.640 --> 1:06:57.720 you can't just birth of artists overnight. You got to 1:06:57.800 --> 1:07:01.360 start back over and rebuild. Any businessman know at that 1:07:01.440 --> 1:07:04.120 point in time the revenue gonna change, so you got 1:07:04.120 --> 1:07:06.720 to downsize and you got to do things a little different. 1:07:07.120 --> 1:07:10.120 That's where the diaper company comes from, me challenging myself 1:07:10.120 --> 1:07:13.720 to do something outside of this that can create another 1:07:13.800 --> 1:07:16.440 top of wealth, and then you're only depending on yourself 1:07:16.480 --> 1:07:18.520 and your team as opposed to because you know, and 1:07:18.560 --> 1:07:21.000 it's on me. Artists are very They're variables, right, You're 1:07:21.000 --> 1:07:23.320 dealing with artists. Maybe they have a bad day. 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I 1:08:57.640 --> 1:09:02.280 think people, first of all, love when you share your 1:09:02.320 --> 1:09:05.760 thoughts online because I feel like they're genuine and you're 1:09:05.880 --> 1:09:08.320 very very like you know, like you said you don't 1:09:08.320 --> 1:09:10.519 go to ship people thinking were scared to say so, 1:09:10.680 --> 1:09:12.880 but but there's so let me ask you this right. 1:09:14.320 --> 1:09:17.920 Why there's people who will be like, yo, why is 1:09:18.000 --> 1:09:21.040 whack online? So much like you'll be on clubhouse called 1:09:21.240 --> 1:09:24.439 crazy on clubhouse, clubhouse shout out to my my nephew, 1:09:24.560 --> 1:09:27.479 Rocky the world family, nainety second Street, as he would say, 1:09:27.720 --> 1:09:30.000 So yeah, the room, no, so just give me like like, 1:09:30.120 --> 1:09:31.759 no way, I'm gonna give me. You go ahead, Okay, 1:09:32.200 --> 1:09:36.680 My little home boy had a room, right, and he like, man, 1:09:36.680 --> 1:09:40.320 I'm trying to get my room popping right. So I'm like, 1:09:40.360 --> 1:09:42.960 all right, I had to understand club I really know it. 1:09:43.000 --> 1:09:44.720 The shit, well, I'm come and see what it is. 1:09:45.080 --> 1:09:46.800 I'm like, all right, cool. So when I did the 1:09:46.840 --> 1:09:50.000 six nine interview, right, I tell nephew, listen, once you 1:09:50.000 --> 1:09:52.920 go on vacation for a minute and put me with 1:09:52.960 --> 1:09:56.120 the people so I can set up the room. He like, 1:09:56.120 --> 1:09:58.000 what you mean? I need you to go on vacation 1:09:58.080 --> 1:10:00.800 because you know you're young, nigg real blood. You know 1:10:00.840 --> 1:10:02.760 what I'm saying. He don't mixed with that shit. He 1:10:03.320 --> 1:10:06.960 just in the room as Rocky Eaglewood family. So by 1:10:07.000 --> 1:10:08.800 the time he spent off of due what he do, 1:10:08.880 --> 1:10:11.960 I come in and bring the kid in the host room. 1:10:12.560 --> 1:10:17.600 His room go from thirteen thousand to thirty thousand overnight. 1:10:18.000 --> 1:10:19.880 I don't come in and say get me half of 1:10:19.920 --> 1:10:22.080 the room. I want to own the room. Right. I 1:10:22.200 --> 1:10:24.800 passed the room back to nephew. He hasked some things 1:10:24.840 --> 1:10:26.840 to say to me. He like, damn, monk, you could 1:10:26.880 --> 1:10:28.680 have told me what you was gonna do. Man, I 1:10:28.760 --> 1:10:30.280 might not have been with it. I said, listen, you 1:10:30.280 --> 1:10:31.960 see where your room is at. Right, Yeah, I took 1:10:32.000 --> 1:10:34.160 the hit. I'm at to take the back lash for it. 1:10:34.360 --> 1:10:37.320 I take that room and go generate you some revenue. Right. 1:10:37.520 --> 1:10:40.960 He loved me today for it. He didn't agree, right, 1:10:41.040 --> 1:10:44.759 but you know, and then clubhouse is a fun space 1:10:44.800 --> 1:10:46.360 where you boy, it ain't got nothing to do. He 1:10:46.479 --> 1:10:48.960 be there, went to sleep early in the day, six o'clock, 1:10:49.080 --> 1:10:52.679 got up at sixty midnight. You get up. Everybody else 1:10:52.720 --> 1:10:56.680 sleep stay up on clubhouse. Right. I also feel like 1:10:56.680 --> 1:10:59.720 you low resurrected clubhouse because I definitely did. That's what 1:10:59.720 --> 1:11:01.680 they did. Yo. I'm like, I didn't even know if 1:11:01.680 --> 1:11:04.000 people were still on Clubhouse until I'm like, Yo, wax 1:11:04.000 --> 1:11:06.960 Gold crazy, gonna cll me fucking I reinstalled the app. 1:11:08.920 --> 1:11:11.120 I literally, but let me ask you this, right, So, 1:11:11.240 --> 1:11:14.920 like the six nine thing happens, and so much fallout 1:11:15.160 --> 1:11:19.400 as far as relationships with you and artists who people 1:11:19.479 --> 1:11:21.760 might perceive you to be close with, like obviously, h 1:11:21.800 --> 1:11:23.800 there was a Jim Jones French shoot that you pulled 1:11:23.880 --> 1:11:26.439 up to early last like last year, and then the 1:11:26.520 --> 1:11:30.160 Jim Jones thing happens, where you know, well, you know, 1:11:30.200 --> 1:11:32.040 I got to blame for something had nothing to do 1:11:32.120 --> 1:11:36.360 with me, because they say I provide the platform for 1:11:36.560 --> 1:11:38.679 him for six nine to say what he said, right, 1:11:38.800 --> 1:11:40.600 But I'm gonna keep it gangster, don't. I don't. I 1:11:40.600 --> 1:11:43.479 don't harbor fugitives, you know what I'm saying. I got 1:11:43.520 --> 1:11:46.920 a lot of people that I with new fifteen, twenty 1:11:46.960 --> 1:11:50.440 thirty years and then you know, somebody slid me some paperwork, 1:11:51.080 --> 1:11:53.320 you know what I'm saying. And based upon what I'm 1:11:53.360 --> 1:11:55.519 reading or what i'm seeing, not to say i've seen 1:11:55.560 --> 1:11:58.320 paperwork on gym, I just heard the recordings of me 1:11:58.439 --> 1:12:02.880 understanding the law. I'm a little confused and one sided 1:12:02.960 --> 1:12:04.880 with that because I know what that is. You know 1:12:04.960 --> 1:12:08.080 what I'm saying. So and you didn't necessarily bring up 1:12:08.120 --> 1:12:11.120 your skepticism about that situation until they were static brought 1:12:11.160 --> 1:12:14.160 to you. Yeah, well, you know he he he had 1:12:14.200 --> 1:12:16.559 wanted to bring it up doing an interview, but I 1:12:16.560 --> 1:12:18.880 didn't know nothing about what he was talking about. I'm like, Yo, 1:12:18.920 --> 1:12:21.439 you can't talk about Jim doing his interview because because 1:12:21.479 --> 1:12:24.000 I don't know what about Trumble, I can't defend him, 1:12:24.520 --> 1:12:26.360 you know what I'm saying. So he he was so 1:12:26.479 --> 1:12:29.040 adamant about wanting to show me what he was talking about. 1:12:29.640 --> 1:12:33.160 It's scared I did some buster shit because I was 1:12:33.200 --> 1:12:35.760 good with Jim at the time, right, And I didn't 1:12:35.760 --> 1:12:37.680 even let him show it to me, because if he 1:12:37.800 --> 1:12:41.800 showed me something that's real, then I gotta let him 1:12:41.800 --> 1:12:44.720 talk about it, right, So I didn't want that to 1:12:44.760 --> 1:12:47.400 happen on that on that right. So that's why if 1:12:47.439 --> 1:12:49.880 you look at that like that never came up in 1:12:49.920 --> 1:12:52.920 that interview, right. He tried to show me something on 1:12:52.400 --> 1:12:55.599 on on casting over right, what he had on his phone. 1:12:55.840 --> 1:12:58.160 So me and Casting over relationship is kind of like 1:12:58.680 --> 1:13:00.800 we see each other one day as who another day. 1:13:00.840 --> 1:13:02.760 We may not say nothing to each other. And I 1:13:02.800 --> 1:13:05.000 know he in the situation he end, and I don't 1:13:05.080 --> 1:13:07.479 like to kick no man when they down, So I 1:13:07.479 --> 1:13:09.559 didn't even entertain what he was trying to show me 1:13:09.920 --> 1:13:12.960 because Casanova ain't here to defend itself. So that's why 1:13:12.960 --> 1:13:14.760 I didn't allow that to be talked about, you know 1:13:14.800 --> 1:13:16.680 what I mean. You know, so it's kind of like 1:13:17.280 --> 1:13:19.559 I don't know where me and casanovad you know what 1:13:19.560 --> 1:13:21.840 I mean. I think we both respect each other as men, 1:13:22.240 --> 1:13:24.639 but then we got our little issues with each other 1:13:24.680 --> 1:13:28.920 about whatever it may be. Right, So that's why i'd 1:13:28.920 --> 1:13:30.800 allow that to happen. But you know, when they come 1:13:30.840 --> 1:13:33.760 on clubhouse and you know he was on, I got 1:13:33.800 --> 1:13:37.519 tired of people asking me about yo six nine is 1:13:37.600 --> 1:13:39.680 so you know what I'm gonna bring you on there 1:13:39.760 --> 1:13:42.280 y'all asking and would shock the shit out of me. 1:13:42.760 --> 1:13:45.320 Is the people that will come super aggressive at me 1:13:45.600 --> 1:13:49.639 about six y nine questions on clubhouse man, Well your 1:13:49.720 --> 1:13:54.320 six ' nine sir, excuse me man asking fuck me up? 1:13:54.760 --> 1:13:58.240 Right now. I'm one person, bro, I'm one person, and 1:13:58.280 --> 1:14:01.080 I'm going to defend myself when I say about giving 1:14:01.120 --> 1:14:04.360 him a platform. Right, I want everybody to see this. 1:14:05.800 --> 1:14:08.799 If you people really felt the way you feel about 1:14:08.840 --> 1:14:12.960 this individual, right, it should have said Whack one hundred 1:14:13.040 --> 1:14:17.400 invites six ' nine in the clubhouse. Only eight people 1:14:17.439 --> 1:14:21.680 showed up. It should not say that. Damn there, fourteen 1:14:21.800 --> 1:14:24.559 thousand people came through there to a point that the 1:14:24.600 --> 1:14:29.479 clubhouse staff they fucking expanded their bandwidth because it's seven 1:14:29.560 --> 1:14:32.120 eight thousand people coming in there at the time and 1:14:32.200 --> 1:14:34.880 another four five thousand people waiting to get in there. 1:14:35.640 --> 1:14:38.400 I didn't give him the platform. The people that came 1:14:38.479 --> 1:14:44.519 in there to hear that man's speak gave him the platform, 1:14:44.760 --> 1:14:48.760 right if it was. If it's that bad with him 1:14:48.880 --> 1:14:52.679 with why support him that the venue should be empty? Right, 1:14:53.200 --> 1:14:56.559 We've all seen an empty venue. So I think people 1:14:56.640 --> 1:14:59.599 might be like, why you did the interview? Obviously there's 1:15:00.000 --> 1:15:02.080 there's the blue face fight that is that gonna happen, 1:15:02.200 --> 1:15:06.599 Definitely gonna happen. I'm about about six point five million 1:15:06.640 --> 1:15:09.280 away from the mark the number I need, which is 1:15:09.320 --> 1:15:11.639 easy to on time. Once you get the money going, 1:15:12.120 --> 1:15:13.960 it's easy to pull other people. We'll get to the 1:15:13.960 --> 1:15:17.639 fight and all that. But but but then people might say, Okay, 1:15:17.680 --> 1:15:19.360 well look we get it, you did, you did it, 1:15:19.400 --> 1:15:23.320 But but why continue to kind of bring him into 1:15:24.000 --> 1:15:28.440 your world, like you know, he's not in your world. 1:15:29.760 --> 1:15:32.160 One time you've seen him one time I did an interview. 1:15:33.160 --> 1:15:35.160 How often do you talk to six nine? He called 1:15:35.160 --> 1:15:37.880 me probably about two three times a week. So what 1:15:38.000 --> 1:15:39.800 you say at this point in time he had text 1:15:39.840 --> 1:15:41.559 me on your face time and let me know that, 1:15:42.040 --> 1:15:44.200 you know, he got something because his business going on. 1:15:44.240 --> 1:15:45.599 Would you say, at this point in time, you guys 1:15:45.600 --> 1:15:48.760 are friendly with each other. Well, I'm not saying you 1:15:48.800 --> 1:15:51.640 guys are friends I don't have. I'm not looking to 1:15:51.680 --> 1:15:53.360 do nothing to him. I was looking to do something 1:15:53.360 --> 1:15:54.920 to him. I would have been done. I wouldn't have 1:15:55.000 --> 1:15:57.439 never set out and did the interview. I feel like 1:15:57.479 --> 1:15:59.240 it ain't my job to do nothing to him, you 1:15:59.240 --> 1:16:01.320 know what I mean. I mean, at one point in time, 1:16:01.360 --> 1:16:03.640 that used to be the politics that when its own 1:16:03.800 --> 1:16:06.040 like that, with somebody's own like that. But you know, 1:16:06.320 --> 1:16:09.519 I come to realize that people selectively politic what they 1:16:09.560 --> 1:16:11.080 want to do, when they want to do it, and 1:16:11.120 --> 1:16:13.439 with who they want to do it with. We you know, 1:16:13.680 --> 1:16:16.720 unless you my direct comrade, you know what I mean, 1:16:16.800 --> 1:16:20.840 you my direct comrade. It don't work like that with me. 1:16:21.560 --> 1:16:23.400 You know what I'm saying, Because I look up all 1:16:23.439 --> 1:16:26.599 the time and video shoots and all kind of shit 1:16:26.720 --> 1:16:30.040 and people going live, and I'm like, damn dude really 1:16:30.040 --> 1:16:31.960 in there with dude. He was just at the studio. 1:16:32.000 --> 1:16:34.840 We was having a discussion. But you know, okay, well 1:16:34.920 --> 1:16:38.280 that's the way it's curbed. It's cool, the selective politic. 1:16:38.320 --> 1:16:41.599 And I feel like is definitely something that that that 1:16:41.600 --> 1:16:43.840 that did have some merit when six times bringing that 1:16:43.920 --> 1:16:46.559 up in the interview, because there are I mean, I'm 1:16:46.560 --> 1:16:49.080 not gonna say any names, but there are artists, there 1:16:49.120 --> 1:16:54.680 are executives that that. I mean some of the artists, right, 1:16:54.800 --> 1:16:59.800 like some big guys right that you know all but 1:17:00.040 --> 1:17:03.000 pretty much you can confirm if probably and got down 1:17:03.400 --> 1:17:05.120 you know, you know, it's some niggas that used to 1:17:05.200 --> 1:17:09.839 be crips's bloods. There's probably some dudes used to be bloods. 1:17:09.840 --> 1:17:11.720 It's crips. You know, it's all kind of shit and 1:17:11.720 --> 1:17:13.800 people know about it, but because of whatever's going on 1:17:13.880 --> 1:17:16.080 with the business, they kind of overlooking. Well also too, 1:17:16.120 --> 1:17:18.320 I think like the reason why people are so the 1:17:18.360 --> 1:17:21.200 six nine thing was such a huge story. It was like, 1:17:21.840 --> 1:17:24.800 it's only a huge story, Let's keep it real. The 1:17:24.920 --> 1:17:29.960 story was only huge because of his platform. Who he is, 1:17:30.640 --> 1:17:35.400 right right, people can say what they want. Anything seen 1:17:35.439 --> 1:17:39.800 around his name. People go crazy about y'all giving that power, 1:17:39.920 --> 1:17:45.280 not me. You know what I'm saying, I don't. I can't. 1:17:45.360 --> 1:17:49.600 I can't recite the six nine verse. I can't. You 1:17:49.680 --> 1:17:50.920 know what I'm saying. I would have to go to 1:17:50.960 --> 1:17:54.320 the Spotify and see maybe one song I heard mistakingly 1:17:54.360 --> 1:17:56.360 and I was like, Yo, that shit hard as a motherfucker. 1:17:56.680 --> 1:17:59.120 You know what I'm saying, Like I couldn't front you know, hard, 1:17:59.120 --> 1:18:01.400 all right, that's him. I get it. But you know, 1:18:01.400 --> 1:18:04.920 at the end of the day is you know, the 1:18:05.040 --> 1:18:09.000 people that really have a lot to say about him 1:18:09.600 --> 1:18:15.000 don't matter. We're not part of his success as an artist. 1:18:15.320 --> 1:18:17.760 We're not the ones going to his concerts. We're not 1:18:17.800 --> 1:18:21.880 gonna buy his merch whether he told or not. Right, 1:18:22.560 --> 1:18:24.920 we wouldn't have brought his mid Way, we wouldn't have 1:18:24.960 --> 1:18:27.679 brought We ain't streaming his music. You're not his audience either. 1:18:27.680 --> 1:18:29.720 We're not his audience. So a lot of people that's 1:18:29.760 --> 1:18:32.479 doing a lot of talking it really don't matter. Like 1:18:32.600 --> 1:18:34.200 you know what I'm saying, he kind of wasting your 1:18:34.240 --> 1:18:38.000 time because his fan base they don't care. Do you 1:18:38.040 --> 1:18:40.800 feel like you see his engagement the boy put up 1:18:40.840 --> 1:18:44.280 some bullshit on It's crazy it's crazy fifteen million. Do 1:18:44.320 --> 1:18:47.760 you feel like do you feel like like doing that 1:18:47.840 --> 1:18:52.080 interview that it cost you anything. I'm pretty sure it 1:18:52.280 --> 1:18:59.720 cost me a few friends. I'm really not bothered by 1:18:59.760 --> 1:19:02.120 a life of people because I'm really a loner type dude. 1:19:02.920 --> 1:19:06.400 My close friends have called me and god on me. 1:19:06.479 --> 1:19:09.400 I think the one that Thinnk got on me the most, 1:19:09.800 --> 1:19:14.080 right this bird Man. Yeah, you know, I you know, 1:19:14.320 --> 1:19:16.080 I'm a I'm a dude to keep it one hundred. 1:19:16.120 --> 1:19:18.840 You know. Ain't nobody bigger than the politics. That's my 1:19:19.000 --> 1:19:21.519 brother and we get on each other. But Birdmen, out 1:19:21.560 --> 1:19:25.479 of everybody, bird Man that got on my ass, like 1:19:26.400 --> 1:19:30.360 on me. He told me how dissatisfied the year. He said, 1:19:30.360 --> 1:19:32.400 I love you, you my brother. I ain't never going 1:19:32.400 --> 1:19:34.560 against you. You know that we didn't been in the 1:19:34.600 --> 1:19:38.320 trenches together, but god damn it, just the way I feel. 1:19:38.400 --> 1:19:40.479 What did he say? You know, he just told me, 1:19:40.520 --> 1:19:42.280 he said, who you are and what you stand for, 1:19:42.479 --> 1:19:46.280 what you represent is greater and bigger than that. Right. 1:19:46.720 --> 1:19:48.599 So even at the end of the day, some people 1:19:48.640 --> 1:19:50.559 got that lane with me, you know what I mean 1:19:50.560 --> 1:19:53.720 where they can call me and I'm gonna humble myself 1:19:54.000 --> 1:19:56.320 and I'm gonna listen, you know what I'm saying, because 1:19:56.360 --> 1:19:58.680 I got that respect for him. They they earned that 1:19:58.800 --> 1:20:00.600 from me, you know what I mean. I got a 1:20:00.600 --> 1:20:03.360 few of my brothers. I ain't heard nothing from, you 1:20:03.400 --> 1:20:06.320 know what I'm saying, And eventually I hear something from 1:20:06.600 --> 1:20:10.000 maybe I won't, you know what I mean, But I 1:20:10.080 --> 1:20:12.880 know what my mission, to my goal is what I'm doing. 1:20:13.280 --> 1:20:15.680 People are gonna take it, and they're gonna paint the 1:20:15.720 --> 1:20:18.519 perception that they want to paint around it. Like it's 1:20:18.560 --> 1:20:22.000 some people that I feel like shit going on with that. 1:20:22.800 --> 1:20:27.599 I feel like others shouldn't fuck with, right t I 1:20:27.880 --> 1:20:31.320 for one yo, till they figure that out. You know, 1:20:31.720 --> 1:20:33.679 I ain't with that kind of shit. Are you talking 1:20:33.680 --> 1:20:37.120 about the allegations about it straight up? Like with the women? Yeah? 1:20:37.160 --> 1:20:39.680 And then it's gonna be interested to see that what 1:20:39.840 --> 1:20:42.240 comes of this, you know what I mean? Me personally, 1:20:42.680 --> 1:20:44.600 I can't front I know t I I'm a t 1:20:44.720 --> 1:20:48.559 I fair listening to our music. I hope he's innocent 1:20:48.600 --> 1:20:53.479 of this shit. But I hope, I really really hope 1:20:54.760 --> 1:20:59.040 that he's innocent of that. Right. But it's some things 1:20:59.080 --> 1:21:01.720 that then went on in this man's life that a 1:21:01.720 --> 1:21:06.200 lot of people don't overlook too keeping it real. Motherfuckers 1:21:06.240 --> 1:21:09.479 ain't crazy. It's a lot of motherfuckers being to the fairs. 1:21:09.520 --> 1:21:13.320 Motherfuckers understand the twelve month a day kick out, you 1:21:13.360 --> 1:21:15.639 know what I'm saying. You know, And things are done 1:21:15.720 --> 1:21:18.200 differently these days. So it's like, you know, it's a 1:21:18.280 --> 1:21:20.000 lot of things that they went on and I look 1:21:20.040 --> 1:21:22.639 at certain people and say, but I understand it, right. 1:21:22.720 --> 1:21:24.680 You know, it may be out of genuine love as 1:21:24.680 --> 1:21:27.120 a brother, maybe some business going on. It may be 1:21:27.240 --> 1:21:30.000 that they see it different than me, right, you know, 1:21:30.080 --> 1:21:33.680 and vice versa. So I'm gonna understand my side of 1:21:33.760 --> 1:21:37.080 it too as well. You know what I'm saying. I think, 1:21:37.160 --> 1:21:39.400 like you said, like with the select with the selective politic, 1:21:39.479 --> 1:21:42.200 and there's a lot of that, you know. At the 1:21:42.280 --> 1:21:45.479 end of the day, like I've done it. I've done it. 1:21:45.520 --> 1:21:47.960 Like I didn't ask my artists do some shit they 1:21:48.080 --> 1:21:52.120 did wrong on they're my artists, you know, what the 1:21:52.840 --> 1:21:56.679 what the fucking what's something like that happening? It's kind 1:21:56.680 --> 1:22:02.040 of do blue face, right, I've got calls in his 1:22:02.160 --> 1:22:09.080 videos to where his homeboys was disrespecting with hand signs. Right, 1:22:09.439 --> 1:22:13.320 I got thirty forty year history with some of these neighborhoods. 1:22:13.760 --> 1:22:15.320 You know what I'm saying. You know, they do shit 1:22:15.439 --> 1:22:18.160 so fast these days. I didn't catch it, you know 1:22:18.240 --> 1:22:20.800 what I mean. I'm paying attention to the artists, to 1:22:20.840 --> 1:22:24.000 the music, I'm paying attention to what he's saying, what 1:22:24.400 --> 1:22:28.080 he's doing. I really ain't catching you know, what everybody 1:22:28.160 --> 1:22:31.040 else is doing, but they like, you know, a whack, 1:22:31.960 --> 1:22:34.600 that's your artist on your watch, your fucking video, you 1:22:34.720 --> 1:22:37.080 putting it out, and this this and this, this and 1:22:37.160 --> 1:22:42.920 this that. Right, fuck dude. You know what I'm saying, Nah, 1:22:43.000 --> 1:22:46.240 I can't ain't no fuck dude, right because you know, 1:22:46.320 --> 1:22:49.880 outside of me doing business with this man, I've learned 1:22:49.880 --> 1:22:52.000 to love this man genuinely. I feel like you and 1:22:52.000 --> 1:22:53.360 your wife kind of took him in as like your 1:22:53.360 --> 1:22:55.080 own man. Like I mean, you know, he has he 1:22:55.120 --> 1:22:56.760 has a mother, he has a very lovely I just 1:22:57.160 --> 1:22:59.599 in terms of like that. But just I remember when 1:22:59.600 --> 1:23:02.120 we first met him, your wife was telling us how 1:23:02.320 --> 1:23:04.559 like you guys are helping him just get situated with 1:23:04.560 --> 1:23:06.840 his first home purchase at the time. His home purchase 1:23:06.920 --> 1:23:10.800 is credit is life insurance, his medicals, diner, everything, and 1:23:10.840 --> 1:23:12.600 I believe that young man is gonna grow to be 1:23:12.680 --> 1:23:15.280 something great outside of music because he got a great 1:23:15.360 --> 1:23:17.800 mind and he's a good kid man. Yeah, you know 1:23:17.800 --> 1:23:19.439 what I mean. Young So he got he gonna do. 1:23:19.520 --> 1:23:21.639 He's still right now. He tell you take the fuck 1:23:21.680 --> 1:23:24.360 out of me. Some ship he doing. And I'm pretty sure, hey, 1:23:24.400 --> 1:23:28.479 he only see that phone ring in one in the morning. 1:23:28.680 --> 1:23:31.080 He already know. But I think he knows that ain't 1:23:31.120 --> 1:23:33.160 to control him that I want to seem better. I 1:23:33.240 --> 1:23:35.000 want to see him be here, you know what I'm saying, 1:23:35.000 --> 1:23:37.240 Because a little young man here, you know, he got 1:23:37.280 --> 1:23:39.400 the heart of a line and he ain't scared of nothing. 1:23:39.800 --> 1:23:41.519 But you know it's some things I'm telling him. The 1:23:41.560 --> 1:23:44.960 bigger you get, you know what I mean, the less 1:23:45.040 --> 1:23:47.040 lead way you had to make mistakes, you know what 1:23:47.040 --> 1:23:49.559 I mean, he gonna be great. He gonna be greater 1:23:49.640 --> 1:23:51.840 than what he's doing in music one day. You know, 1:23:51.880 --> 1:23:54.800 he's a business man. His restaurant, that's something he set 1:23:54.840 --> 1:23:56.840 out and did. I didn't even know he was doing 1:23:56.840 --> 1:23:59.639 it till he told me. Had he fire set out 1:23:59.680 --> 1:24:01.280 and did put it together? You know what I mean? 1:24:01.320 --> 1:24:03.360 So that let me know he a young boss, and 1:24:03.360 --> 1:24:05.760 I'm gonna respect him as that. But because of my 1:24:05.920 --> 1:24:11.160 relationship and my bond with him, right, yeah, I probably 1:24:11.160 --> 1:24:13.400 when it came to this cripping blood that I was 1:24:13.439 --> 1:24:16.320 probably supposed to be a little more assertive or aggressive 1:24:16.320 --> 1:24:18.840 of what my people was calling me about, but the 1:24:18.880 --> 1:24:22.559 selected politics because who he was to me, I probably 1:24:22.600 --> 1:24:25.280 dealt with it a little wilder done you you know 1:24:25.280 --> 1:24:27.719 what I'm saying. You know, And and with this gang 1:24:27.760 --> 1:24:30.479 culture we got, man, it's so many it was out here. 1:24:30.560 --> 1:24:33.479 That's you know, we crips, and we got bloods is 1:24:33.720 --> 1:24:36.719 our brothers and families. We bluods and we got crypts. 1:24:36.760 --> 1:24:40.080 That's our relatives. People we didn't did time with all 1:24:40.120 --> 1:24:42.640 of us, got some top of hatred and then some 1:24:42.760 --> 1:24:46.160 top of love and respect for the same side, for 1:24:46.280 --> 1:24:48.559 the same enemy, you know what I mean. So it's 1:24:48.560 --> 1:24:52.519 a little different. What did you and twenty one Savage 1:24:52.520 --> 1:24:57.720 ever have any dialogue after the uh, very very very 1:24:57.800 --> 1:25:00.600 loud back and forth were pretty much They're like, it's 1:25:00.680 --> 1:25:03.519 on site. I'm glad you brought that up, because I 1:25:03.560 --> 1:25:05.720 wasn't thinking about it. Like bird Man been on my 1:25:06.000 --> 1:25:09.200 ass about twenty one Savage almost to a point where 1:25:09.200 --> 1:25:15.960 I'm damn they're jealous. Man, he is whack. That's family man, Savage, 1:25:16.080 --> 1:25:21.200 family man, you a g So what if he stepped 1:25:21.200 --> 1:25:24.120 out of line a little bit? You know, he family. 1:25:24.439 --> 1:25:26.439 You didn't told me you fucked with him. I told 1:25:26.479 --> 1:25:29.160 you I loved the little nigga to death. You supposed 1:25:29.160 --> 1:25:31.280 to swallow that and dealt with that difference, like he 1:25:31.680 --> 1:25:34.479 hear another when bird Man had been on my ass 1:25:34.520 --> 1:25:38.320 about but me and Savage spoke the same day after 1:25:38.360 --> 1:25:40.559 the fact. I think what it was was somebody it 1:25:41.360 --> 1:25:45.479 somebody already told me Savage had a distaste with somebody 1:25:45.479 --> 1:25:47.599 did and I wasn't tripping. So when they pinged him 1:25:47.600 --> 1:25:49.160 to the room they told me he was down there, 1:25:49.320 --> 1:25:52.080 I'm like, you'll bring him up. So I'm under the 1:25:52.080 --> 1:25:54.559 impression I'm just gonna ask him, your savage, what's the issue? 1:25:54.600 --> 1:25:56.800 He gonna tell me, and we're gonna have a conversation 1:25:56.880 --> 1:25:59.559 because we both had mutual respect for one anohing right, 1:25:59.640 --> 1:26:01.400 But he you know, he kind of told me somebody 1:26:01.520 --> 1:26:03.679 fed in some other ship, you know what I mean 1:26:03.720 --> 1:26:05.320 to where when he came into the room, he was 1:26:05.400 --> 1:26:08.920 already on charge because he was thinking something totally different. 1:26:09.240 --> 1:26:11.880 So you know, yeah, so what's triggered him off. A 1:26:11.920 --> 1:26:14.360 little nigga, little gangster and a little punk. So you know, 1:26:14.439 --> 1:26:17.160 he figured somebody saying this is saying these things about him. 1:26:17.479 --> 1:26:19.400 He coming in a room. He dealing with the ship 1:26:19.439 --> 1:26:22.120 head on right, I get it understanding now. So we 1:26:22.200 --> 1:26:25.960 had a conversation in uh, one of his rooms. I 1:26:26.000 --> 1:26:28.240 mean the way we chopped it up people was in 1:26:28.240 --> 1:26:31.559 a room. This was after the been, the one that 1:26:31.680 --> 1:26:34.320 went viral a been a couple of hours later. Because listen, 1:26:34.400 --> 1:26:36.200 for people who don't know you, you you have when you 1:26:36.280 --> 1:26:40.600 are activated. No listen, I am like, like you know 1:26:42.040 --> 1:26:48.639 this businessman father, Uh, but when you're when your fuse 1:26:48.760 --> 1:26:51.759 is gone. I mean I know to do that right. 1:26:52.840 --> 1:26:56.560 Doing that is more for me and more natural to 1:26:56.680 --> 1:27:00.679 me than being this other dude. You know what I'm saying. 1:27:00.840 --> 1:27:03.639 No matter you know, with age, it don't do nothing 1:27:03.680 --> 1:27:06.920 but make you a more grouch your don't you know 1:27:06.920 --> 1:27:09.559 what I'm saying. That's all it does. So you know 1:27:09.600 --> 1:27:12.599 when it happened because of who it was, I think 1:27:12.640 --> 1:27:15.040 I did great and that was probably due to my 1:27:15.040 --> 1:27:18.000 my my, my, my wife. I just held to me 1:27:18.080 --> 1:27:20.639 that I need to learn how to, you know, deal 1:27:20.680 --> 1:27:22.439 with my anger and not snap and I have a 1:27:22.479 --> 1:27:24.519 short fuse. That's why I kind of like I was 1:27:24.520 --> 1:27:26.479 trying to deal with it, but he just kept coming. 1:27:26.760 --> 1:27:29.240 And then you know, it's always this little man on 1:27:29.320 --> 1:27:31.680 my shoulder. I can't get rid of this motherfucker man. 1:27:31.680 --> 1:27:35.640 He always trying to tell me and remind me of 1:27:35.760 --> 1:27:38.439 some shit I should be mad at and how I 1:27:38.479 --> 1:27:41.080 should be reacting. You know, when I'm trying to keep 1:27:41.120 --> 1:27:43.600 a focus, mind like this, dude, don't go nowhere. I 1:27:43.800 --> 1:27:45.080 don't want. I want to get rid of it, but 1:27:45.120 --> 1:27:47.719 then to get I don't because he's kept me alive. 1:27:48.320 --> 1:27:50.200 I don't go down that block. You know what you 1:27:50.280 --> 1:27:52.040 gotta do, Get off hand of your business, get up 1:27:52.040 --> 1:27:54.680 out of there. Right. He's part of my instincts, you 1:27:54.720 --> 1:27:56.599 know what I mean. So that's why when I when 1:27:56.600 --> 1:27:59.639 I when I did talk to Savage a couple hours later, 1:28:00.120 --> 1:28:02.400 he came out and said, listen, man, you know I 1:28:02.439 --> 1:28:04.200 thought this and thought that so the way I came 1:28:04.240 --> 1:28:06.559 I might have came wrong. And I knew for him 1:28:06.640 --> 1:28:09.639 to say that after I had approached him the way 1:28:09.680 --> 1:28:12.040 I did, and we approached each other, I knew it 1:28:12.080 --> 1:28:14.720 was genuine and there was some grown man shit, and 1:28:14.760 --> 1:28:17.000 he really was outclassing me at that point in time 1:28:17.040 --> 1:28:19.320 for me to keep tripping. So I had to hear 1:28:19.360 --> 1:28:21.760 him out. So we you know, we verbally talked and 1:28:22.400 --> 1:28:25.120 verbally was cordial for like another twenty thirty minutes towards 1:28:25.120 --> 1:28:26.880 each other. Let me ask you this, right, because I 1:28:26.920 --> 1:28:31.080 know that you had kind of you know, you've obviously 1:28:31.160 --> 1:28:35.080 evolved as a man, right, Yeah, from being in your 1:28:35.120 --> 1:28:40.360 younger days, definitely. And I think that there's an argument 1:28:40.479 --> 1:28:44.960 that someone like maybe Meek Mill, who who you know. 1:28:45.800 --> 1:28:47.800 I know that you know you had kind of said like, look, 1:28:47.840 --> 1:28:50.800 once you state that this is what it is, then 1:28:50.840 --> 1:28:54.080 when you're presented with the opportunity, you got to you 1:28:54.160 --> 1:28:56.240 got to keep that energy to be real with you, right. 1:28:56.280 --> 1:28:58.400 I think something going to come good out of the 1:28:58.439 --> 1:29:03.599 meet meal situation. What do you mean? Because I don't 1:29:03.600 --> 1:29:07.559 think he's gonna ever do that again. Essentially, he's never 1:29:07.640 --> 1:29:10.080 going to step out online again because I don't think 1:29:10.120 --> 1:29:12.880 he's ever gonna voist what he's gonna do when he 1:29:12.960 --> 1:29:18.559 sees somebody, right, I think he's gonna handle that differently. 1:29:18.720 --> 1:29:20.720 I think if that's his thoughts, he might keep that 1:29:20.760 --> 1:29:23.000 to himself. If he gonna do it. He's gonna do it, 1:29:23.080 --> 1:29:25.400 but I think he's gonna put hisself in the position 1:29:25.479 --> 1:29:28.439 to where the light ain't on him to do it. Well, 1:29:28.439 --> 1:29:29.559 that's what I was gonna say about Like the teop 1:29:29.560 --> 1:29:32.920 wouldn't saying nothing. Nobody was gonna say nothing. What I 1:29:33.000 --> 1:29:34.720 was gonna say about the twenty one Savage thing is like, 1:29:34.760 --> 1:29:37.080 obviously even if he saw six or nine at the club, 1:29:38.160 --> 1:29:40.240 like he didn't know, he didn't. But but but I'm saying, 1:29:40.240 --> 1:29:45.320 like hypothetically, you know he's got it. It wasn't his Well, see, 1:29:45.760 --> 1:29:48.040 he has not had all kind of ship that he 1:29:48.840 --> 1:29:51.160 was saying. Savage said it did, so that was his 1:29:51.200 --> 1:29:53.240 whole thing. His whole thing is if you one of 1:29:53.240 --> 1:29:55.600 those dudes saying you're gonna do something to me, he 1:29:55.640 --> 1:29:58.440 don't care about his saying Fox is now you're a rat. 1:29:58.479 --> 1:30:00.599 He don't give a fuck about that. If you want him. 1:30:00.640 --> 1:30:03.320 Dudes are saying when I see you, it's on, then 1:30:03.360 --> 1:30:06.439 he sees you and that happens. That's his home. Yeah, 1:30:06.479 --> 1:30:08.639 I would just I would hope twenty one Savage would 1:30:08.960 --> 1:30:14.360 risk his freedom, is his career just because you know, well, 1:30:14.439 --> 1:30:16.960 I mean I defended twenty one in the in the 1:30:17.000 --> 1:30:18.920 interview he did because I was like, just because y'all 1:30:19.000 --> 1:30:21.200 in the same he saw you, and he saw you 1:30:21.520 --> 1:30:24.880 and then at the same token, uh, he ain't the 1:30:24.880 --> 1:30:27.360 one got the real direct beat with you, So a 1:30:28.680 --> 1:30:30.960 why would he put on his online you know what 1:30:31.040 --> 1:30:32.320 I'm saying at the end of the day, you know 1:30:32.360 --> 1:30:35.280 what I mean. So I said, listen, if he did 1:30:35.920 --> 1:30:38.200 say or do these things because I hadn't heard it 1:30:38.280 --> 1:30:41.320 or seen it personally, then I feel where you're coming from. 1:30:41.439 --> 1:30:43.600 And I think that's what Savage had a problem with, 1:30:44.040 --> 1:30:45.640 you know what I mean. But once we talked and 1:30:45.680 --> 1:30:47.960 he kind of you know, he got it like I 1:30:48.000 --> 1:30:50.559 got where he was coming from. I don't expect twenty 1:30:50.600 --> 1:30:53.640 one to beat the under not at all. Have you 1:30:53.680 --> 1:30:57.920 given six ' nine any off camera, off clubhouse advice, 1:30:58.120 --> 1:31:01.320 because if I feel like Tony mister starm disrespecting the dead, 1:31:02.080 --> 1:31:04.479 you know what I'm saying, I told him that you 1:31:04.560 --> 1:31:08.240 didne made enough enemies. Want you give some attention to 1:31:08.320 --> 1:31:12.400 your fans. I don't think that you need to be 1:31:12.680 --> 1:31:19.479 so controversial on the negative side to bring attention to 1:31:19.560 --> 1:31:22.679 your music. I think it's I've seen him do things, 1:31:22.720 --> 1:31:24.280 you know, like over the years when I don't even 1:31:24.280 --> 1:31:25.800 know who he was, and I've seen him like go 1:31:25.920 --> 1:31:31.479 visit uh, go and visit uh kids, you know what 1:31:31.560 --> 1:31:33.680 I mean, that on their last leg of living and 1:31:33.680 --> 1:31:35.640 stuff like that. So I just feel like, you know, 1:31:35.680 --> 1:31:37.720 if you're gonna do something, man, focus on your music 1:31:37.800 --> 1:31:40.360 and do some positive things. Man, you know your fans. 1:31:40.439 --> 1:31:42.200 Let your fans love you. People that's gonna hate you, 1:31:42.240 --> 1:31:44.240 that's gonna they're gonna hate you. You've done what you did. 1:31:44.680 --> 1:31:49.160 There's no sense in antagonizing them anymore, you know, especially 1:31:49.240 --> 1:31:51.559 the Little Dirt shit. You know, I like Little Dirt. Yeah, 1:31:51.560 --> 1:31:53.120 the Dirt shit. I feel like he's out of pocket. 1:31:53.280 --> 1:31:55.040 I like, I like Little Dirt, you know what I mean. 1:31:55.080 --> 1:31:58.800 So you know, think Little Dirt and made versus something 1:31:58.840 --> 1:32:00.840 on some Drake song you know, I don't know, or 1:32:00.920 --> 1:32:02.600 some shit, but so what, it's a verse, you know 1:32:02.640 --> 1:32:03.960 what I mean? The fuck? You know what I mean. 1:32:04.000 --> 1:32:06.880 I like Little Dirt, you know what I mean. So, 1:32:08.320 --> 1:32:10.360 you know, anybody tied the Little Dirt, you know, he 1:32:10.400 --> 1:32:13.280 needs to refrain from saying the things he's been saying. 1:32:13.320 --> 1:32:15.200 You know this, this is what I told him, you 1:32:15.240 --> 1:32:17.479 know what I mean. So whether he does. It looked 1:32:17.479 --> 1:32:19.160 at me like he might be doing it, but you 1:32:19.240 --> 1:32:23.160 never knows his own man, when you're going to think advertising, 1:32:23.240 --> 1:32:26.559 I'm moving around with no security now, probably not the smartest. 1:32:27.680 --> 1:32:31.559 I think his whole thing was that is because I 1:32:31.600 --> 1:32:33.600 hate to say it, he's really trying to expose the 1:32:33.640 --> 1:32:37.519 streets because the streets is painting the picture of those 1:32:37.560 --> 1:32:39.400 in the streets. That's saying what they want to do 1:32:39.479 --> 1:32:42.360 that I can't do because it is you know what 1:32:42.439 --> 1:32:45.439 I'm saying. So he's like, yo, bro, stop lying. I'm 1:32:45.439 --> 1:32:48.320 not moving like that. I'm right here. So that was 1:32:48.360 --> 1:32:50.760 his way of kind of like exposing do you think 1:32:50.840 --> 1:32:53.720 instead of really exposing the streets, he really just exposed 1:32:54.360 --> 1:32:58.680 the perception of what hip hop hip hop fans think 1:32:58.800 --> 1:33:01.360 is the streets, right, because we look at definitely our 1:33:01.400 --> 1:33:05.960 favorite artists and we think, yo, that's the streets. At 1:33:06.360 --> 1:33:11.400 lot I seen Rick Ross. Uh I was on Instagram 1:33:11.479 --> 1:33:15.040 and Rick Ross was they was he was interviewing. It 1:33:15.120 --> 1:33:17.840 might have been Breakfast Club and they asked Rick Ross 1:33:17.840 --> 1:33:21.280 about the Drake Kanye thing. Said, menim dudes got too 1:33:21.360 --> 1:33:27.400 much money. I think I want to see I wouldn't 1:33:27.400 --> 1:33:31.400 see them doing so together ross thing. They got too 1:33:31.439 --> 1:33:34.600 much money. They having fun with it, right. But you know, 1:33:34.680 --> 1:33:37.720 to the fans, you know, they eating that ship up. 1:33:37.760 --> 1:33:40.280 You know, they think Drake gonna come from some gangsters 1:33:40.280 --> 1:33:44.360 from the six and Kanye gonna come from some gds 1:33:44.640 --> 1:33:49.200 some ship from Chicago. But that's not gonna happen. These dudes. 1:33:49.760 --> 1:33:55.600 These dudes can't control. They always know when gonna be 1:33:56.120 --> 1:34:00.120 in the building where they are. Their situation says they 1:34:00.160 --> 1:34:02.400 can be in the bill that's gonna be the section, 1:34:02.520 --> 1:34:04.080 that's gonna be their section, you know what I mean. 1:34:04.120 --> 1:34:07.840 So you know, I hate to say it, but the 1:34:07.880 --> 1:34:15.600 world we live in social media, they crave negativity. You 1:34:15.720 --> 1:34:21.040 put up something, you're doing something positive, whatever. I feel like, 1:34:21.680 --> 1:34:26.519 what's the brother Trade of Truth should get millions of 1:34:26.840 --> 1:34:28.800 likes and views? Of course, man, he's one of the 1:34:28.840 --> 1:34:36.360 rarest community relief game some relief games rogers, right, you see, 1:34:36.400 --> 1:34:38.960 he get his He get it as little perks because 1:34:39.000 --> 1:34:41.880 a lot of people with blue checks might be on it, right, 1:34:41.960 --> 1:34:46.639 But I think Trade of Truth does deserves the millions 1:34:46.680 --> 1:34:49.000 of you. I feel like Trader Truth should have forty 1:34:49.040 --> 1:34:53.439 million followers, right, But then you go over here to 1:34:53.520 --> 1:34:58.600 the other dude, right, that got less followers. But he 1:34:58.680 --> 1:35:02.880 may promote a fight, say yo, fuck this, fuck that, 1:35:03.479 --> 1:35:05.680 of this, this and that, and that's where all the 1:35:05.720 --> 1:35:08.080 traffic goes. Unfortunately, that's the world we live. That's what 1:35:08.120 --> 1:35:10.400 it is. And I understand that. I understand that to 1:35:10.479 --> 1:35:13.240 be entertainment. See a lot of these people take this 1:35:13.280 --> 1:35:15.439 ship to sais and too real. It's like the news. 1:35:15.479 --> 1:35:17.439 If you think about the news, the ratings for the 1:35:17.479 --> 1:35:20.360 news were the highest when Trump was in office, straight up, 1:35:20.640 --> 1:35:25.160 because they want the controversy. This dude, the controversy. He's 1:35:25.160 --> 1:35:26.880 gonna say some crazy He's gonna say some wild shit 1:35:26.960 --> 1:35:33.599 every day New CNN, Twitter, Instagram, and then and and 1:35:33.600 --> 1:35:36.080 and whether you're on the left or the right or 1:35:36.080 --> 1:35:38.240 in the middle, there's a channel for you to go 1:35:38.320 --> 1:35:41.439 and there it goes reaffirm what you feel. And a 1:35:41.479 --> 1:35:44.400 lot of this look, a lot of this ship be entertainment. 1:35:44.800 --> 1:35:46.120 You know what I'm saying. A lot of it is 1:35:46.240 --> 1:35:49.040 entertainment because we know we have to entertain you know 1:35:49.080 --> 1:35:51.200 what I mean? We know what what what what they 1:35:51.240 --> 1:35:52.960 want to see what they don't want. Do you look 1:35:52.960 --> 1:35:54.960 at yourself as an entertainer? Nou kind of because you're 1:35:55.080 --> 1:35:57.400 you're kind of a social media you know, people think 1:35:57.520 --> 1:36:01.960 I think my I think my entertainment kicks in because 1:36:02.000 --> 1:36:07.360 the things I say in address it's borderline with the 1:36:07.439 --> 1:36:11.559 negativity and that might lead to violence. So it's something 1:36:11.600 --> 1:36:14.479 for him to talk about, because I think that you 1:36:14.520 --> 1:36:17.560 are looked at, like for people who don't even know 1:36:17.600 --> 1:36:19.439 who the fuck you are as far as what you 1:36:19.560 --> 1:36:23.120 do in the industry. People just fough like there's people 1:36:23.320 --> 1:36:25.840 who are following you just because they saw some wild 1:36:25.840 --> 1:36:28.360 shit you might have seen exactly. They don't maybe respect 1:36:28.360 --> 1:36:30.560 to understand. They see a fight. I didn't want to 1:36:30.600 --> 1:36:32.160 have a fucking fight. I'm telling them the world. I 1:36:32.200 --> 1:36:34.000 didn't want to have to fight. I didn't go to 1:36:34.040 --> 1:36:36.360 the burger stand that day to have to fight. It's 1:36:36.400 --> 1:36:38.760 a fight that just happened. I didn't record the fight. 1:36:38.800 --> 1:36:41.920 It's just somebody out here with a goddamn camera, right, 1:36:42.040 --> 1:36:46.920 recording something and then win. Right, But that thing got 1:36:46.920 --> 1:36:49.880 one hundred two hundred thousand, and it's not even the 1:36:49.920 --> 1:36:53.559 first time you've knocked someone out on camera shot. I mean, 1:36:53.600 --> 1:36:56.320 I didn't had a minion fight right right, right, because 1:36:56.320 --> 1:36:58.679 they saw it, then that's just what that is, right. 1:36:59.120 --> 1:37:01.880 But that's what what the people won't that's what they crap. 1:37:02.160 --> 1:37:05.840 I don't. I was sitting watching chick film with my 1:37:05.960 --> 1:37:10.080 wife because that's my wife. Man put on some shit 1:37:10.160 --> 1:37:12.920 with them dudes jumping out the helicopter. This shit just 1:37:12.960 --> 1:37:16.000 got bombed. The drones came in. That's what I want 1:37:16.040 --> 1:37:18.240 to see, right, That's what excites me. And I think 1:37:18.280 --> 1:37:20.439 that just what excites people. You know. That's why when 1:37:20.479 --> 1:37:23.479 you see a lot of these rappers, when they become 1:37:23.520 --> 1:37:27.280 other things and they start shining away from it, you 1:37:27.320 --> 1:37:29.559 don't hear jay z name unless he didn't drop the 1:37:29.680 --> 1:37:32.280 verse a crazy verse, or he didn't brought another company 1:37:32.400 --> 1:37:35.519 or got another billion dollar check. Straight up, you don't 1:37:35.520 --> 1:37:38.960 hear it nowhere? What is uh? What is you? In 1:37:39.000 --> 1:37:42.200 your opinion, the biggest misconception about the music industry. I 1:37:42.240 --> 1:37:44.719 think the misconception of music industry is that the music 1:37:44.760 --> 1:37:47.360 industry is actually the streets and they don't understand that 1:37:47.400 --> 1:37:49.640 everybody from the streets is in the music industries and 1:37:49.680 --> 1:37:54.000 get away from the streets. So if it's a figment 1:37:54.000 --> 1:37:56.920 of your imagination of what you think it is, you 1:37:56.920 --> 1:37:59.720 know what I'm saying on some real shit, and I 1:37:59.720 --> 1:38:02.200 think that's what it is. Don't get it wrong. We 1:38:02.600 --> 1:38:05.439 still got We still got some of these youngsters. I 1:38:05.560 --> 1:38:10.439 seen twenty one Savage on there with Gilly and Wallow Right. 1:38:12.479 --> 1:38:14.920 That's probably my favorite podcast. By the way, Gilly, I'm 1:38:14.960 --> 1:38:17.120 coming for your ass. I heard what you said. Gilly. 1:38:17.120 --> 1:38:20.360 We're gonna address that, like, stop ducking me. Set the 1:38:20.560 --> 1:38:25.479 date right. So Savage was like in y'all era, I 1:38:25.520 --> 1:38:28.640 think a lot of the rappers was bitch ass niggas 1:38:29.120 --> 1:38:31.559 right they did our era. A lot of these young 1:38:31.640 --> 1:38:34.479 rappers really come from that, right. I think Gilly kind 1:38:34.479 --> 1:38:36.920 of correctly was like, well, the rapper wanted to be 1:38:37.000 --> 1:38:39.840 the street nigga. Now the street nigga wants to be 1:38:39.920 --> 1:38:44.760 the rapper. Yeah. Back when we were, you know, the 1:38:44.760 --> 1:38:47.000 little young rappers pull up. We out there with our money, 1:38:47.000 --> 1:38:49.600 our juria cars grow, They're like, yo, I want to 1:38:49.640 --> 1:38:52.400 be like big such and such. Right. Also back then, 1:38:52.560 --> 1:38:56.800 let's transparency, right, So back then it was easier to 1:38:56.840 --> 1:38:59.120 be a gangster even if you weren't, because there wasn't 1:38:59.160 --> 1:39:01.800 social media to to pull your car exactly. You really 1:39:01.840 --> 1:39:04.680 had to be that because people heard about it from 1:39:04.720 --> 1:39:07.800 shit that really happened. Now you can go do a 1:39:07.880 --> 1:39:11.040 couple of videos pull up by a certain spots where 1:39:11.080 --> 1:39:13.479 the right thing being around, the right people off the 1:39:13.560 --> 1:39:20.920 right gangster. We're seeing it happen with six nine. Yeah, 1:39:21.280 --> 1:39:23.479 you know what I'm saying. Like I was, it was 1:39:23.520 --> 1:39:27.000 crazy shout out to uncle murder. I was listening, you know, 1:39:27.000 --> 1:39:28.800 I always go to this page every day, listen to 1:39:28.800 --> 1:39:31.200 the wrap up things like that. They had a song 1:39:31.240 --> 1:39:36.080 with him six nine, uh fifty and young man was 1:39:36.080 --> 1:39:39.920 talking about earlier. The one was locked up Cassanova right, 1:39:41.200 --> 1:39:44.880 six nine going crazy, he blood and the everything's for 1:39:45.479 --> 1:39:50.280 you know, all the bullshit went down, right, But you 1:39:50.360 --> 1:39:54.760 see six now a fucking castanoa fucking uncle murder, Uncle 1:39:54.840 --> 1:39:57.599 murder won the realist nigga come out of Brooklyn facts 1:39:58.240 --> 1:40:07.520 right fifty Okay, shit, what you think that did to that? 1:40:07.520 --> 1:40:12.960 That kid's head right right right? And now he starts 1:40:13.000 --> 1:40:16.880 to live this shit mentally. Now his little fans is 1:40:16.920 --> 1:40:21.000 not these other dudes fans. Oh yeah, he gangster. He 1:40:21.200 --> 1:40:23.599 was with such and such. That was a control video. 1:40:24.479 --> 1:40:26.280 It was a reason why they did that video. It's 1:40:26.400 --> 1:40:30.080 different demographics for murdering fifty in casting over. You know 1:40:30.120 --> 1:40:33.320 what I'm saying, And if you look on that shit 1:40:33.400 --> 1:40:38.000 got about thirty five forty million the streams versus other songs. 1:40:38.000 --> 1:40:41.479 They don't. That's the business of it, you know what 1:40:41.560 --> 1:40:43.640 I'm saying. And this is out of time. Why I 1:40:43.640 --> 1:40:46.080 had a dislike for six nine when that video happened, 1:40:46.280 --> 1:40:50.240 well years that murdered my man. Yeah, game, game back 1:40:50.320 --> 1:40:52.760 here for murder, my man, murder ta you never got 1:40:52.800 --> 1:40:54.800 a call from me talking about why the fuck you 1:40:54.920 --> 1:40:58.280 doing this video? Because I understand that's some business going 1:40:58.280 --> 1:41:01.600 on on the fiftieth floor. Understood the business part of it. 1:41:01.640 --> 1:41:03.920 I knew once that was done and over with, murder 1:41:03.960 --> 1:41:05.720 was going back to what he's going back to. Dude, 1:41:05.800 --> 1:41:07.280 was going back to where he was going back to 1:41:07.920 --> 1:41:11.000 what was the games? Thoughts on you doing the six ninety. 1:41:11.960 --> 1:41:15.920 He hadn't said nothing to me, which means I haven't. 1:41:16.240 --> 1:41:18.000 If I get to a point where he think I 1:41:18.040 --> 1:41:20.439 went too far, he'll tell you. He gonna come knock 1:41:20.439 --> 1:41:24.519 on my door. That's happened before. Oh yeah, definitely, yeah, Yeah, 1:41:24.520 --> 1:41:27.280 he don't give a fuck. He gonna look, he gonna 1:41:27.280 --> 1:41:33.640 I'm open the door, and he gonna woo woo, woo whoo. 1:41:34.400 --> 1:41:35.880 I love you, and he's gonna walk away, get his 1:41:35.880 --> 1:41:38.240 car and go home. He don't buy his tongue with 1:41:38.320 --> 1:41:41.120 me one big what was it? And uh, maybe an 1:41:41.160 --> 1:41:43.160 example you could share where that happened, where game was 1:41:43.200 --> 1:41:44.840 like kind of kind of give you an ear full 1:41:44.880 --> 1:41:46.360 of some of some of the ship. You might have said, 1:41:49.560 --> 1:41:52.160 what the fuck was I was doing something on social media? 1:41:53.040 --> 1:41:55.599 Oh Nipsey, I was gonna say, was it? Had there 1:41:55.640 --> 1:41:59.000 been the Nipsey thing? You think? Right? It was Nipsey, 1:41:59.080 --> 1:42:04.960 But he understood what I was saying. To be clear, 1:42:05.000 --> 1:42:07.439 what you said was Nipsey's not a legends, not a 1:42:07.560 --> 1:42:10.759 legend in music. In music, yeah, not in the streets. 1:42:10.760 --> 1:42:14.080 You know the streets he from were dictating and determine that. 1:42:14.280 --> 1:42:17.200 You know what I'm saying by the way that I 1:42:17.240 --> 1:42:18.360 think you were in the club and you had the 1:42:18.400 --> 1:42:21.080 DJ players music. I remember I was in Chicago. Yeah, 1:42:21.080 --> 1:42:22.880 I remember that he plays me up some West coast 1:42:22.880 --> 1:42:25.599 ship like you know, you know I did that. I 1:42:25.640 --> 1:42:28.120 stopped the whole club. We was in Chicago, and me 1:42:28.160 --> 1:42:30.559 and Blue Face and did that. And just so you know, 1:42:30.640 --> 1:42:33.840 Blueface neighborhood and the neighborhood don't get along. You know, 1:42:34.080 --> 1:42:36.200 that could have caused a riff that I'm in the 1:42:36.240 --> 1:42:38.680 middle of a blue Face club hosting. I stopped the 1:42:38.720 --> 1:42:42.160 whole club and you know, just you know, a moment 1:42:42.160 --> 1:42:44.680 of silence for Nip and let's play his music. And 1:42:44.680 --> 1:42:46.960 then we went on by our night. But it got 1:42:47.000 --> 1:42:52.280 to a point to where Game definitely pulled up on me. 1:42:54.240 --> 1:42:56.679 What are you saying? He said, Bro, I understand everything 1:42:56.720 --> 1:42:59.160 you said, You got your point across. Can you please 1:42:59.560 --> 1:43:04.920 just not saying no more? I tell you and I'm 1:43:05.000 --> 1:43:08.160 going on, And he wrote out, you know what I'm saying. 1:43:08.240 --> 1:43:12.759 So when that happened, I remember me and Head talking like, damns, 1:43:12.840 --> 1:43:16.360 there's some shit like we love you act right, but 1:43:16.400 --> 1:43:18.479 I'm like, there's just some shit like you could have 1:43:18.560 --> 1:43:21.760 kept to yourself. And I think you know and you right, 1:43:22.000 --> 1:43:25.800 But I think in my life, in my world, it's 1:43:25.920 --> 1:43:29.639 fake as all this shit is. I like to keep 1:43:29.640 --> 1:43:32.400 it as real as I can. Like, even if you 1:43:32.439 --> 1:43:34.559 feel that way, right, and I'm not saying I share 1:43:34.560 --> 1:43:37.000 your opinion about then shit, but even if you feel 1:43:37.000 --> 1:43:39.479 that way, and not to say, you know, the way 1:43:39.479 --> 1:43:41.920 you laid out your argument about look ice cube, snoop 1:43:42.000 --> 1:43:45.800 dre all these, Yeah, why even put it out there? Well, 1:43:45.800 --> 1:43:49.120 they asked me a question, and I think the problem 1:43:49.160 --> 1:43:51.920 with me is I don't know how to run fair enough. 1:43:52.120 --> 1:43:55.400 I'm gonna keep it real. I think if a person 1:43:55.479 --> 1:43:59.040 asked me a question and I have a logical answer 1:44:00.160 --> 1:44:06.200 and I say, well, what this answered them? People over 1:44:06.200 --> 1:44:09.360 there ain't gonna like I'm gonna say, well, why they're 1:44:09.400 --> 1:44:12.840 not gonna like it? Am I telling the lie? Am 1:44:12.880 --> 1:44:16.599 I am I disrespecting anybody? Or is it I shouldn't 1:44:16.640 --> 1:44:19.960 say it because of how they gonna they telling me. 1:44:20.000 --> 1:44:23.080 I just think, like anytime, there's no different than when 1:44:23.120 --> 1:44:26.640 I come into hold tanks back then in them days. 1:44:27.080 --> 1:44:29.280 Hey because they cause they cause, they cause, they cause, 1:44:29.320 --> 1:44:32.200 they cause they cause where you're from. Nine deep Nigga 1:44:32.320 --> 1:44:37.520 is par role some people that would have said nowhere, 1:44:39.520 --> 1:44:43.880 I couldn't run. Whatever came with that, It came with that, 1:44:44.320 --> 1:44:47.360 And I think that's really what my problem is. And 1:44:47.479 --> 1:44:49.800 I know how to fix the problem. I'm fixing the 1:44:49.880 --> 1:44:53.960 problem as far as because because I always tell my 1:44:53.560 --> 1:44:56.479 h my son the problem we were talking about our 1:44:56.520 --> 1:44:59.760 wives earlier, right, and I always make I always tell 1:44:59.760 --> 1:45:02.479 my right, my son's fifteen, and I always say, hey, look, 1:45:02.880 --> 1:45:05.880 sometimes I just want out you gotta just bite your lip. 1:45:06.160 --> 1:45:09.599 And in my household, in my household, I call it 1:45:09.640 --> 1:45:12.280 making a business decision with my wife. I'm gonna let 1:45:12.280 --> 1:45:14.519 you have that w I'm gonna just I'm gonna make 1:45:14.520 --> 1:45:16.920 the business decision and not say nothing. Let you win. 1:45:17.200 --> 1:45:20.040 And you know, that's another thing that I gotta work on, 1:45:20.080 --> 1:45:22.960 because you know, I'd be like shit, you know, but 1:45:23.000 --> 1:45:25.080 women gotta do it to it us sometimes, you know, 1:45:25.200 --> 1:45:27.680 they can put up a greater argument, but depending on 1:45:27.720 --> 1:45:30.639 how we feeling about it and how we reacting to it, 1:45:30.880 --> 1:45:34.080 they should know like let that go. But I think 1:45:35.240 --> 1:45:38.439 my way of fixing that problem is Indie Life, which 1:45:38.479 --> 1:45:41.000 is that mobile app is by ready to launch to 1:45:41.080 --> 1:45:44.200 where that's me giving back to the music community, the 1:45:44.280 --> 1:45:47.120 underground community which I cater to from the unsign and 1:45:47.200 --> 1:45:50.120 artists right to where now I don't really have to 1:45:50.120 --> 1:45:52.880 be a visible face of it. I let y'all utilize that. 1:45:53.120 --> 1:45:54.920 And I'm gonna go on with the next chapter of 1:45:54.960 --> 1:45:57.879 my life to I got rid of all the jeans 1:45:57.880 --> 1:46:00.000 and the Georgians. I might keep a couple of joy 1:46:00.120 --> 1:46:02.200 is a word with a couple of suits, right, And 1:46:02.280 --> 1:46:04.840 I'm doing something different to where I'm not even in 1:46:04.920 --> 1:46:08.080 that conversation, you know what I'm saying like that, Like 1:46:08.200 --> 1:46:11.240 jay Z got a line on four four four. You know, 1:46:11.479 --> 1:46:13.280 I want to be on the floor where ain't no 1:46:13.360 --> 1:46:17.360 real niggas in the room. Really, that's what I'm That's 1:46:17.520 --> 1:46:20.160 that's what I'm targeted. That's a I think that should 1:46:20.160 --> 1:46:23.559 be everyone's aspirations, man, because if I'm there and you 1:46:23.680 --> 1:46:26.080 ask me, I'm gonna say something. So I gotta i 1:46:26.120 --> 1:46:29.680 gotta remove myself from being so accessible to being in 1:46:29.680 --> 1:46:31.800 front of that can. Did you resolve any sort because 1:46:31.800 --> 1:46:34.160 I know that there was like speculation that you had 1:46:34.160 --> 1:46:37.439 gotten into a scuffle. Was it rolling loud with Nipsey's 1:46:37.439 --> 1:46:43.760 camp you know, watch this? Yeah right, I'm in Lancaster, California. 1:46:44.160 --> 1:46:46.200 Got into a fight with some skin He is right, 1:46:47.760 --> 1:46:52.679 somebody had a camera. Let me ask you something, thinking 1:46:52.800 --> 1:46:57.200 wack had to fight a wack guy hit and hit 1:46:57.240 --> 1:47:02.080 the ground, or we was a lock up we had 1:47:02.160 --> 1:47:08.639 rolling loud, it wouldn't be no footage. I mean, obviously 1:47:08.720 --> 1:47:10.960 the fuck out of here. I'm not even trying to 1:47:11.280 --> 1:47:13.439 no this. I'm just saying, right, I'm not even trying 1:47:13.479 --> 1:47:15.400 to go down like whether that happened, this is just 1:47:15.479 --> 1:47:19.240 real shit, right right, But they hate me so much 1:47:20.040 --> 1:47:22.680 and they want to see me take a loss so 1:47:23.200 --> 1:47:29.519 bad that if a motherfucker say it, that's what happened. Right. 1:47:29.760 --> 1:47:32.559 But even with that, you gotta understand, it's a million 1:47:32.600 --> 1:47:36.560 different stories out there. All he disrespect Dipsey. Uh, he 1:47:36.680 --> 1:47:40.240 say he wasn't from here, or he say he wasn't 1:47:40.280 --> 1:47:42.559 alleged he wasn't who he was to where he's from. 1:47:42.680 --> 1:47:44.360 Like you know, people then took it and twisted their 1:47:44.400 --> 1:47:47.519 own way. You know. I challenge anybody to find any 1:47:47.520 --> 1:47:53.240 footage that says anything different from me addressing music, because 1:47:53.240 --> 1:47:55.360 that was really all you were addressing. That's it, and 1:47:55.400 --> 1:47:57.800 that's obviously it's your opinion. It's not my place to 1:47:57.840 --> 1:48:00.000 address where you're from. I'm not from where you're from. 1:48:00.360 --> 1:48:02.800 I haven't kept up with his stats over there. You 1:48:02.840 --> 1:48:05.000 know what I'm saying. We ain't. We ain't did business 1:48:05.120 --> 1:48:06.760 like that. We was acquainted, we talked to each other, 1:48:06.840 --> 1:48:09.679 we had each other's phone numbers. Uh, we did some business. 1:48:09.880 --> 1:48:12.320 I helped him with his in his early career. You 1:48:12.320 --> 1:48:16.320 know what I'm saying, Shit like lax tour case slay, 1:48:16.320 --> 1:48:18.000 I'm gonna want to put him on New York Radio. 1:48:18.560 --> 1:48:20.000 You know what I'm saying, You know, a bunch of 1:48:20.000 --> 1:48:22.880 shit like that that tour. It's crazy because that tour 1:48:23.320 --> 1:48:28.120 was the first time I ever met nip was that 1:48:28.280 --> 1:48:30.599 tour he was in I was on Rady on Boise. 1:48:31.800 --> 1:48:33.519 A lot of people like to take credit for that. 1:48:33.680 --> 1:48:35.439 You know what I'm saying, I'm not gonna take the 1:48:35.479 --> 1:48:38.160 credit for that. A lot of people like to get 1:48:38.160 --> 1:48:40.080 Big U the credit for that, But ultimately, I'm gonna 1:48:40.080 --> 1:48:43.559 be real. As cocky as Nipsey was, he had to 1:48:43.600 --> 1:48:46.679 want to be over there with Game, and as cocky 1:48:46.720 --> 1:48:49.200 and the strict as Game is with who's out with 1:48:49.400 --> 1:48:52.320 him on tour, he had to want that to happen. 1:48:52.439 --> 1:48:56.439 So you know that's that was a relationship, you know 1:48:56.479 --> 1:48:58.599 what I'm saying. That's why I know Game is real 1:48:58.720 --> 1:49:01.640 genuine about that. Game did some shit. He did some 1:49:01.640 --> 1:49:04.280 shit the homies do on't like. He took a Lamborghini 1:49:04.400 --> 1:49:10.320 rapping in blue, put fucking Nipsy down one side and 1:49:10.400 --> 1:49:13.680 violated everything pol roofs Dawn and put Crenshaw down the 1:49:13.720 --> 1:49:16.960 other side. You know what I'm saying, ain't no power 1:49:17.000 --> 1:49:20.599 rules on Crenshaw. You know what I'm saying, but that's 1:49:20.680 --> 1:49:23.880 the way he was feeling about his homeboy's partner. I 1:49:23.920 --> 1:49:27.559 got a million calls about it. Man, he ain't supposed 1:49:27.560 --> 1:49:30.519 to a listen, bro. See that's the difference between street 1:49:30.560 --> 1:49:35.080 shit and the industry shit. Industry shit, some brotherhood shit. Also, 1:49:35.200 --> 1:49:36.760 like you know what I'm saying, I ain't gonna call 1:49:36.840 --> 1:49:39.720 game Mayo game. Listen, man, take that off your car. Well, 1:49:39.720 --> 1:49:42.559 also like a game is also another example of someone 1:49:42.600 --> 1:49:45.240 who's evolved as a human and as a as a businessman, 1:49:45.360 --> 1:49:49.920 as a what he represents something that that has to 1:49:49.960 --> 1:49:54.200 be that and that's really not who he represents himself 1:49:54.240 --> 1:49:56.280 to be. That's where he's from, that's where he came 1:49:56.320 --> 1:49:58.840 from and all that. But I think people, it's a 1:49:58.880 --> 1:50:02.280 lot of people, bro. They stuck on the second chapter, 1:50:02.320 --> 1:50:04.680 and they book of life. Some of us is on 1:50:04.720 --> 1:50:07.800 our tenth book, ninth chapter. So they stuck on the 1:50:07.800 --> 1:50:10.320 second chapter. This what is supposed to be blood or 1:50:10.320 --> 1:50:13.080 this what is supposed to be cut? They ain't. They 1:50:13.120 --> 1:50:15.679 ain't evolving to writing these chapters and closing that book 1:50:15.720 --> 1:50:17.800 out and going to the next book and evolving to 1:50:17.840 --> 1:50:19.400 who they gonna be as a man, as a father, 1:50:19.400 --> 1:50:21.879 as a businessman, as a home boy, as a comrade. 1:50:21.880 --> 1:50:23.639 You know what I mean. They haven't they they haven't 1:50:23.680 --> 1:50:26.040 done that. So when we down here on our tenth book, 1:50:26.120 --> 1:50:28.400 ninth chapter, they still see it the way they seen 1:50:28.479 --> 1:50:31.240 on their first book, second chapter. Got a forty year 1:50:31.240 --> 1:50:33.720 old fifteen year old. That's a real shit, bigger of 1:50:33.720 --> 1:50:36.240 a nigga fifty five by default when you combine it too. 1:50:36.560 --> 1:50:38.160 But then if you average it out, there's a whole 1:50:38.200 --> 1:50:41.040 nother you know what I'm saying. So it's different and 1:50:41.160 --> 1:50:43.639 we see it different, and you can't argue with them people, 1:50:43.840 --> 1:50:47.599 because I understand how you seeing it. I totally understand 1:50:47.600 --> 1:50:49.439 how you seeing it because at one point in time, 1:50:49.479 --> 1:50:52.080 when I was in my first book, second chapter, many 1:50:52.160 --> 1:50:54.840 many moons ago, I seen it that way too. But 1:50:54.920 --> 1:50:57.240 I also see it because I'm on my tenth book, 1:50:57.320 --> 1:51:01.519 ninth chapter that you still down there. That's some real shit, man. 1:51:02.000 --> 1:51:05.200 That's something that's a that's a bar uh talk about game. 1:51:05.240 --> 1:51:07.000 I just went over to his crib like last month. 1:51:07.000 --> 1:51:09.559 He played me. I know he's got this like playlist 1:51:09.560 --> 1:51:11.519 that he's gonna put out, but he's also got this album. 1:51:11.840 --> 1:51:14.200 That album come. I don't know if this album is crazy. 1:51:14.439 --> 1:51:17.880 I heard some crazy we're going NFT and I got 1:51:17.920 --> 1:51:19.320 to see which way he want to go with it. 1:51:19.360 --> 1:51:21.240 You know, with me and Game do our minus. We 1:51:21.280 --> 1:51:24.200 sit down and we bounce ideas around. He listened to me, 1:51:24.280 --> 1:51:26.559 I'll listen to him. We sleep on it, and then 1:51:26.600 --> 1:51:29.000 we text and then from there that's just what it's 1:51:29.040 --> 1:51:31.240 gonna be. And then I take the business and whatever 1:51:31.280 --> 1:51:33.240 we come up with, and then that's just what it is. 1:51:33.720 --> 1:51:35.599 You know what's crazy is like I was even talking 1:51:35.640 --> 1:51:40.120 to him just about like how somehow he's become underappreciated 1:51:40.320 --> 1:51:42.840 in the last like ten, Game is the most under man. 1:51:42.880 --> 1:51:48.120 I'll be seeing so many Top ten, Top five, Top this, 1:51:48.479 --> 1:51:52.160 and top that. Like, Bro, it's very few artists right 1:51:52.200 --> 1:51:54.280 now that can go on that studio. And I'll wrap 1:51:54.360 --> 1:51:57.960 that man with substance. You know what I'm saying. That 1:51:58.000 --> 1:52:01.120 man still records. When you hear him record, it ain't 1:52:01.120 --> 1:52:05.080 a fucking solid and his disco is untouchable. It's crazy, 1:52:05.160 --> 1:52:06.680 you know what I mean. Game is still going and 1:52:06.720 --> 1:52:10.160 do foss six songs, Bro, night, no problem. I think 1:52:10.200 --> 1:52:13.839 you are the man that records three hundred songs album. 1:52:14.200 --> 1:52:17.240 I think Game is kind of like uh an example 1:52:17.280 --> 1:52:21.000 of someone who just doesn't play the industry bullshit in it, 1:52:21.160 --> 1:52:24.720 like like you know, like there's you go to a 1:52:24.720 --> 1:52:27.160 fucking industry event and you'll go to five in a 1:52:27.200 --> 1:52:30.320 month and you'll see the same Like he don't play that. 1:52:30.439 --> 1:52:33.559 You don't care about the award awards. He ain't doing 1:52:33.560 --> 1:52:36.720 none of that ship because he know he understands the end. 1:52:36.880 --> 1:52:39.840 Like bro, that's a bunch of fake shit. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:52:39.920 --> 1:52:43.519 yeah yeah yeah. Man, fuck that nigga, and you know, man, 1:52:43.560 --> 1:52:45.200 let's get something to do some work and then you 1:52:45.240 --> 1:52:47.479 try to hit him then answer or the manager is calling, 1:52:47.880 --> 1:52:51.080 you know, with some bullshit. So he just like he 1:52:51.160 --> 1:52:53.160 deal with who he deal with, and like this is 1:52:53.160 --> 1:52:55.000 what I was telling him. I'm like, dude, like when 1:52:55.000 --> 1:52:58.360 it comes to people who make actual albums, and if 1:52:58.360 --> 1:53:01.719 we're look in a discography against discography, he's like top 1:53:01.760 --> 1:53:05.759 five all time, all day. Game don't put out whack albums. 1:53:06.000 --> 1:53:08.160 Well no, it's not gonna you could go through the 1:53:08.200 --> 1:53:10.280 greatest of all time, and they got some black eyes 1:53:10.320 --> 1:53:13.760 on their discography, right, But like Game, when it's a 1:53:13.800 --> 1:53:18.479 game album, it's always front to back. You press player. 1:53:18.560 --> 1:53:21.479 Let that bitch ride, and I think really my main 1:53:22.920 --> 1:53:26.240 goal is over the next twelve months is to help 1:53:26.320 --> 1:53:31.280 the underground artists and definitely I need to uh my 1:53:31.400 --> 1:53:34.160 West Coast artists out here. You know, it's a lot 1:53:34.160 --> 1:53:37.240 of politics and a lot of shit that goes on 1:53:37.360 --> 1:53:40.120 and they don't have to reach to so I want 1:53:40.120 --> 1:53:42.879 to position them so they can win. You know, our voices. 1:53:43.120 --> 1:53:45.439 You know, the South been in control. Yeah you know 1:53:45.479 --> 1:53:47.080 what I'm saying, And they strong down there, and they 1:53:47.200 --> 1:53:50.479 gonna continue to be thriving and still be strong. But 1:53:50.560 --> 1:53:53.160 you know, I think that the West could be just 1:53:53.200 --> 1:53:55.639 as strong and just ass thrive. And it's nothing wrong 1:53:55.720 --> 1:53:58.439 with you know what I mean every region we go to, 1:53:59.040 --> 1:54:01.920 it's that dominant strength going on. But it's only gonna 1:54:01.920 --> 1:54:04.240 happen if we help these youngsters. You know a lot 1:54:04.280 --> 1:54:06.920 of people out here, in my position as a CEO, 1:54:07.200 --> 1:54:10.040 that that playing CEO, that got artist up on them, 1:54:10.240 --> 1:54:13.040 that got movements, they just don't know. So it's kind 1:54:13.040 --> 1:54:15.559 of on me to help get them there. I got 1:54:15.600 --> 1:54:18.920 an obligation to take Blue Face and get him, help 1:54:19.000 --> 1:54:22.160 get him to that next level of me and a superstar. 1:54:22.439 --> 1:54:25.400 You know, my up and coming artist True Car and 1:54:25.520 --> 1:54:29.960 Conyote and you know what I mean, And you know, 1:54:30.040 --> 1:54:33.480 to help them Flash Gotti become that. They got to 1:54:33.560 --> 1:54:36.880 moving down there in Compton called Rose Krantz. We got 1:54:37.120 --> 1:54:41.680 Mari Ruger. We got Adobe from westside Parlo. Adobe is 1:54:42.240 --> 1:54:44.520 really standing in there on the business side. You got 1:54:44.520 --> 1:54:49.040 Mari Ruger. You got a tone, you know, a tone tone. 1:54:49.920 --> 1:54:52.160 Then they got another kid. He from I think he 1:54:52.240 --> 1:54:54.560 might be from forgive me for this. He might be 1:54:54.600 --> 1:54:57.920 from Saint Louis or some world toward woo. He might 1:54:57.920 --> 1:54:59.920 have seen him. He was getting it to Soldier Boy. 1:55:00.200 --> 1:55:02.440 He didn't one said the film Soldier Boy. That's some 1:55:02.480 --> 1:55:04.520 crazy shit right there. So you got that going on 1:55:04.600 --> 1:55:07.400 over there. But these are movements that they stay in 1:55:07.440 --> 1:55:12.400 that pocket because the resources of them having access to 1:55:13.520 --> 1:55:15.680 these blogs and knowing how to do this and knowing 1:55:15.680 --> 1:55:17.360 how to do that, you know what I mean. They 1:55:17.400 --> 1:55:20.200 don't know, but they but it's there. The talent, the 1:55:20.200 --> 1:55:22.560 skill is there. If I put something in front of 1:55:22.600 --> 1:55:24.760 you and you interview this person or you listen to 1:55:24.800 --> 1:55:26.560 that music in your studio over there, you're like, Yo, 1:55:26.600 --> 1:55:28.480 this dude, dope, and where you been. Yeah, I've been 1:55:28.480 --> 1:55:31.440 over there grinding like five years damn no shit. Why 1:55:31.520 --> 1:55:34.000 do you think that is though, because like everyone has 1:55:34.040 --> 1:55:36.200 to you know, they don't want to let nobody in 1:55:36.240 --> 1:55:39.080 the people that's in. But if you really think about 1:55:39.120 --> 1:55:42.000 like where the music industry exists now, it's here like 1:55:42.520 --> 1:55:43.920 it used to be. You can move to New York 1:55:43.960 --> 1:55:45.800 and make it. You can move, but it's you got 1:55:45.840 --> 1:55:48.880 to think about it. Bro. When the Powers to Be 1:55:49.160 --> 1:55:54.840 had the voice they was letting people in game, then 1:55:56.640 --> 1:56:00.520 they did the passing of the torch. Remember it was Kendrick. Yeah, 1:56:00.560 --> 1:56:04.000 all that to Kendred right, this shit then went to 1:56:04.240 --> 1:56:08.320 a digital world, a total different world to where I 1:56:08.360 --> 1:56:12.240 got more of a voice now in this world than 1:56:13.480 --> 1:56:17.920 people I consider to be my legends, because that ain't 1:56:18.000 --> 1:56:20.480 they world, and that ain't they laying and you're playing 1:56:20.560 --> 1:56:23.560 that world exactly. So you know, so now it's a 1:56:23.560 --> 1:56:25.760 lot of the obligation is on me. So you know, 1:56:25.800 --> 1:56:28.640 I got other things that I'm moving off to, moving 1:56:28.680 --> 1:56:31.480 on to, but I'm not gonna just leave them high 1:56:31.480 --> 1:56:34.120 and drama. Make sure I leave some here a platform 1:56:34.160 --> 1:56:37.560 here to where it's gonna work for them and help 1:56:38.720 --> 1:56:40.720 them get to where they go to and expedited a 1:56:40.720 --> 1:56:42.560 little faster, you know, what I mean, you have a 1:56:42.560 --> 1:56:46.000 great relationship with p at QC. That's another dude that 1:56:46.080 --> 1:56:51.960 I watch. He has motivated me because he helps them 1:56:52.040 --> 1:56:57.800 youngsters out that gutter him Gucci Maine. I watched them 1:56:57.960 --> 1:56:59.880 and they made me tell myself, Yo, I need this 1:57:00.120 --> 1:57:03.280 that my game up because they really really helped them 1:57:03.320 --> 1:57:06.400 youngsters and get them a platform. And I've been to 1:57:06.480 --> 1:57:09.320 QC studios. I don't know none of these dudes. They 1:57:09.480 --> 1:57:11.480 just up and coming dudes, you know what I'm saying. 1:57:11.840 --> 1:57:14.640 But they round you know, his big artists so they 1:57:14.640 --> 1:57:16.680 can see how it going, you know what I mean, 1:57:16.720 --> 1:57:19.800 And he helping them get funny and position them. You know, look, 1:57:19.880 --> 1:57:23.560 look what the evolution of little Baby, Yeah, it's crazy, 1:57:23.600 --> 1:57:26.080 you know what I'm saying. He didn't went from from 1:57:26.200 --> 1:57:28.680 the little dude that come to shoot dice with the 1:57:28.800 --> 1:57:32.680 artists at the studio to in the studio to being 1:57:32.680 --> 1:57:34.560 one of the hottest in the studio to now he 1:57:34.640 --> 1:57:37.560 got artists as hot that's under him in the studio 1:57:37.680 --> 1:57:41.080 to where he got his own label situation. And you know, 1:57:41.120 --> 1:57:44.280 he blewprinted off of what he's seen Pete do with him, 1:57:44.280 --> 1:57:46.600 and Pete supporting him, and they supporting each other. So 1:57:47.040 --> 1:57:49.720 you know, he's he's really one of the ones that, yeah, 1:57:49.720 --> 1:57:51.320 I think I look at like what he's doing, and like, 1:57:51.520 --> 1:57:54.920 look at what YO got. He's doing Birdman too, you 1:57:54.960 --> 1:57:57.240 know bird Man of course, you know burd with certain 1:57:57.280 --> 1:57:59.560 guys that I see what they doing to where I 1:57:59.560 --> 1:58:01.880 feel like I got an obligation to step to the plate. 1:58:02.400 --> 1:58:04.080 What about you know, I know you and top got 1:58:04.080 --> 1:58:07.640 a great relationship obviously, you know, TD being the I guess, 1:58:07.720 --> 1:58:10.840 kind of the closest thing we've had to death Row 1:58:10.880 --> 1:58:13.320 Sin's Death Row. Yeah, definitely, Top Dogs, definitely one of 1:58:13.320 --> 1:58:15.560 my mentors, one of my g homies. I don't say 1:58:15.560 --> 1:58:19.680 that about everybody. He's definitely somebody that one of them 1:58:19.720 --> 1:58:22.839 in a buying or I need to make a decision 1:58:23.360 --> 1:58:25.880 or I'm kind of at odds about which way I 1:58:25.920 --> 1:58:28.520 should go with something somebody I called because I definitely 1:58:29.200 --> 1:58:34.960 respect his opinion. And you see the the leadership, you know, 1:58:35.200 --> 1:58:38.440 and uh, the class he showed with Kendrick just being 1:58:38.520 --> 1:58:40.840 Kendrick's last album. You know what I'm saying. You know, 1:58:41.320 --> 1:58:44.280 if you're paying attention, he's just then woke up and 1:58:44.280 --> 1:58:46.440 got back on the gas, you know what I mean. 1:58:46.480 --> 1:58:50.600 He got Ravon, Rayvon Dope beast him and Kendrick and 1:58:50.680 --> 1:58:52.960 Top and Jay Rock and Top came to the studio 1:58:53.000 --> 1:58:55.760 with True Car and gave me a bank. Rayvon's a 1:58:55.800 --> 1:58:57.920 beast man. We had him on the show. We had 1:58:58.240 --> 1:59:01.080 so Rayvaon lived in Arizona for little bit. Okay, so 1:59:01.080 --> 1:59:05.040 one of my Arizona homies has been managing forever. So 1:59:05.200 --> 1:59:06.960 ray Vn came on me in head show like three 1:59:07.040 --> 1:59:09.400 or four years ago. Good dude, good dude. He's a beast, 1:59:09.560 --> 1:59:15.640 funny as hell too. Hilario does his hilarious little his diary. 1:59:15.920 --> 1:59:19.440 Yeah he's hillariy. Yeah. But see, and to artists, pay 1:59:19.480 --> 1:59:22.720 attention to ray Vin because not only is he a beast, 1:59:22.800 --> 1:59:25.280 and I want to say, nephew from Long Beat, He's 1:59:25.280 --> 1:59:27.800 from Long Beach. Here he from Long Beast, right, And 1:59:28.200 --> 1:59:30.120 I can't. I don't know if he gang bangs or 1:59:30.160 --> 1:59:32.440 not because time I seen, we don't know, no conversation. 1:59:33.000 --> 1:59:36.200 But he also is not scared to show his sense 1:59:36.240 --> 1:59:38.480 of humor and be himself. You know what I'm saying. 1:59:38.480 --> 1:59:41.800 In that sense of humors was translating to tik tok, 1:59:42.240 --> 1:59:44.480 which is growing his fan base. And then when you 1:59:44.560 --> 1:59:48.680 listen to his music. It's real, It's authentic. Street is real. 1:59:48.760 --> 1:59:52.120 So you know some people is too gangster for this 1:59:52.240 --> 1:59:54.720 ship today. I tell you, if you're too gangster, I 1:59:54.800 --> 1:59:57.440 can't do nothing for you. You're too gangster to have 1:59:57.480 --> 1:59:59.280 a sense of humor is something the kids want to 1:59:59.280 --> 2:00:02.800 talk about a lot, have about it. TikTok two. I can't. 2:00:02.920 --> 2:00:04.840 I can't do nothing with you because I can't do 2:00:04.920 --> 2:00:08.400 those things right right right, Yeah, you can't be funny 2:00:08.440 --> 2:00:11.560 and no. I can take your I can take your product, 2:00:11.760 --> 2:00:15.000 and I can put it in places that you can't, 2:00:15.040 --> 2:00:17.600 but you got to create the product. I really do 2:00:17.680 --> 2:00:20.480 think like ray Von is like kind of an evolution 2:00:20.560 --> 2:00:22.720 to Kendrick, right, because like Kendrick is obviously to the 2:00:22.760 --> 2:00:25.320 point I always say, there's like, well so listen, listen, listen, 2:00:26.920 --> 2:00:29.280 like it's only one game, there's only one Kendrick. No, 2:00:29.320 --> 2:00:30.760 But what I was gonna say was that I think 2:00:30.920 --> 2:00:34.440 ray vn is talented enough to one day we'll be 2:00:34.480 --> 2:00:37.000 sitting here saying there's only one. That's what I was 2:00:37.040 --> 2:00:39.320 gonna say. Like, if you think of Kendrick, right, Kendrick 2:00:39.480 --> 2:00:42.440 is in my opinion top five all time. That's my 2:00:42.520 --> 2:00:45.960 personal opinion, my personal opinion. Right, I always tell people, 2:00:46.400 --> 2:00:48.360 if you got Bigger in your top five, and he 2:00:48.400 --> 2:00:50.320 only put out two albums, how the fuck don't you 2:00:50.360 --> 2:00:52.040 got Kendrick in your top You know? The first time 2:00:52.080 --> 2:00:56.240 I heard Kendrick when where was it? New York? Top 2:00:56.280 --> 2:00:58.080 Dog and New came out there. They were just moving 2:00:58.080 --> 2:01:01.520 around to introduce them. The case like Shaq and my God, 2:01:01.600 --> 2:01:05.320 money Mark was doing this thing in Long Island. Everybody 2:01:05.400 --> 2:01:07.960 was there, bun Bee all eybody was there performing and 2:01:07.960 --> 2:01:12.520 ship like that, and fucking Patpoos had got up there. 2:01:13.600 --> 2:01:17.040 Jay Rock went Pat Pools get up there and does that? 2:01:17.200 --> 2:01:21.360 Ends his set with alphabetical slaughtering right, classic great mixtape, 2:01:21.400 --> 2:01:26.200 Classic Kendrick At the time, Who is motherfucking Kate Haydoe 2:01:26.680 --> 2:01:30.320 sitting over there? The shy guy? You know, he looking 2:01:30.360 --> 2:01:32.280 at me and I'm looking at him. I'm looking at Top. 2:01:32.360 --> 2:01:34.760 I'm like Top. He's like yeah, he like, you want 2:01:34.800 --> 2:01:37.320 to go up there after that? He's like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 2:01:37.680 --> 2:01:39.160 you shure you want to go up there after that? 2:01:39.840 --> 2:01:43.240 Pat Pools in New York, right, he like yeah yeah, 2:01:43.320 --> 2:01:46.520 yeah yeah right, and he went up there, and you know, 2:01:46.680 --> 2:01:48.600 you get up there, get somebody the mike. You kind 2:01:48.640 --> 2:01:51.480 of fade to the left, you talking, and right when 2:01:51.480 --> 2:01:54.880 he started going, I'm like, what the fuck? I look 2:01:54.920 --> 2:01:58.160 at Top, I say Top, that's the one that the 2:01:58.160 --> 2:02:00.920 first time I heard Kendrick get out was when he 2:02:01.000 --> 2:02:04.960 came behind Pat Pools in New York and Pool's gonna 2:02:04.960 --> 2:02:07.520 make it hard for you. He'll make it hard for anybody, 2:02:07.840 --> 2:02:14.440 so especially I'm assuming this was like six somewhere like that. 2:02:14.880 --> 2:02:20.760 This is like Peaks, Pat Poo's running the mixtapepe Ship 2:02:21.400 --> 2:02:23.280 running all that just old, you know what I'm saying. 2:02:23.560 --> 2:02:25.600 And it was then, So that was my first bar 2:02:25.680 --> 2:02:29.879 of Yeah, I just think Kendrick like his lyrical proudness 2:02:29.920 --> 2:02:32.560 and like, you know, Kendrick is on a level kind 2:02:32.560 --> 2:02:34.200 of where he calls at right where like they don't 2:02:34.240 --> 2:02:37.080 need to be on TikTok thing, No, they're omn the present. 2:02:37.440 --> 2:02:40.040 They're on the present. But I think Ray Vaughan has 2:02:40.040 --> 2:02:46.200 the opportunity to be the like lyrical person. That's kind 2:02:46.200 --> 2:02:48.400 of you know when we look when we think of 2:02:48.440 --> 2:02:50.920 the young like generation, right, I think you can think 2:02:50.920 --> 2:02:52.880 of cord A, You can think of a few guys 2:02:52.880 --> 2:02:54.320 who are kind of who can get down with the 2:02:54.360 --> 2:02:56.280 bars right, But I think ray Von has an opportunity. 2:02:56.280 --> 2:02:58.080 I got that edgy ship to him, like he like, 2:02:58.160 --> 2:03:00.000 you know, like our true Car got that edgy ship 2:03:00.120 --> 2:03:03.000 to him. You know you need that pain Raven's got 2:03:03.040 --> 2:03:05.160 the Raven played the song. I don't know if it's 2:03:05.160 --> 2:03:06.520 ever gonna come out, but he played a song that 2:03:06.640 --> 2:03:08.080 like made me tear up in the studio because it 2:03:08.080 --> 2:03:10.440 was about when he lost his baby mom and it 2:03:10.600 --> 2:03:12.800 was crazy and I'm like, man, he's got this. But 2:03:12.840 --> 2:03:16.960 then he also has the social media ship on lock 2:03:17.000 --> 2:03:21.680 because he's fucking hilarious. He's funniest man. That damn dear 2:03:21.800 --> 2:03:24.960 Diary shit he does. Bro that ship called me off 2:03:25.000 --> 2:03:26.760 gard one day. I didn't know what he was doing. 2:03:27.320 --> 2:03:29.720 I spent all my food. I'm like, what the fuck 2:03:29.920 --> 2:03:32.080 is some of your Mama boo booed on myself, like 2:03:33.400 --> 2:03:34.960 you know what I mean. But but he has a 2:03:35.000 --> 2:03:37.480 sense of humor. Man, shout out to Rayven. He gonna 2:03:37.480 --> 2:03:40.880 be some grapscot one for sure. TD gonna continue to 2:03:41.480 --> 2:03:45.120 look at look at doing numbers whole so coming again. 2:03:45.200 --> 2:03:47.760 I've seen something about something popped up on scissor, you 2:03:47.800 --> 2:03:49.840 know what I mean? Jay Rock still over there doing 2:03:50.240 --> 2:03:55.120 you know what I mean? Uh Q Schoolboy Q and 2:03:55.440 --> 2:03:59.000 the other the other nephew from from Carson. He's a 2:03:59.000 --> 2:04:06.480 beep to appstepisode on right. He goes in the studio lights, 2:04:06.880 --> 2:04:11.880 puts his arms behind his back and goals, Aien, would 2:04:11.880 --> 2:04:14.400 you ever do a podcast yourself? Way? They've been reaching 2:04:14.440 --> 2:04:17.320 for me to do it, academics that uh he hinted around, 2:04:17.320 --> 2:04:21.280 maybe I do so with him. My guys at Paradigm 2:04:21.680 --> 2:04:25.400 Fred Andrew Ruff that they've been in conversations with with 2:04:25.480 --> 2:04:27.960 a few platforms. So yeah, I definitely would consider it. 2:04:28.360 --> 2:04:30.600 I wouldn't I wouldn't mind it'd be another platform, but 2:04:30.640 --> 2:04:32.680 I would like want to. I would want to. I 2:04:32.720 --> 2:04:34.720 would want to put the attention on those people that 2:04:34.800 --> 2:04:37.600 they can't see. You know what I'm saying, you know 2:04:37.600 --> 2:04:40.200 what I mean, like share your platform with some people 2:04:40.320 --> 2:04:44.320 people who really benefit off it. Drake was once one 2:04:44.320 --> 2:04:47.480 of those guys that people couldn't see. You know, you 2:04:47.640 --> 2:04:49.560 never know, you know it's out there. It's a lot 2:04:49.600 --> 2:04:51.480 of them out there. So I would definitely want to 2:04:51.480 --> 2:04:54.720 put my attention on on nose if I did my podcast, 2:04:54.720 --> 2:04:56.960 we could mix in the common ship, but I would 2:04:56.960 --> 2:04:59.640 want to be that gateway to the underground artist. You 2:04:59.640 --> 2:05:02.600 know what I mean, I mean the underground producers, you know, 2:05:03.080 --> 2:05:05.600 the management, those CEOs up and coming to put some 2:05:05.680 --> 2:05:08.080 light on them. You talked about how when you first 2:05:08.120 --> 2:05:10.320 signed Blueface, you helped get his credit together, help them 2:05:10.360 --> 2:05:12.680 get the house. Let's say you signed somebody today and 2:05:12.720 --> 2:05:16.280 they got a five hundred credit score. What is your like, 2:05:16.360 --> 2:05:18.560 what do you how do you help them get their 2:05:18.560 --> 2:05:20.160 shit together? Because I think that this is one of 2:05:20.200 --> 2:05:23.800 the more under appreciated things about outside the music in 2:05:23.800 --> 2:05:26.240 the streets. You know, I'm a businessman, yes, so you know, 2:05:26.280 --> 2:05:28.760 shout out to my man, Travis Wilson. That's to see 2:05:28.800 --> 2:05:32.200 what my success try for the stars follow him on Instagram. 2:05:32.960 --> 2:05:36.720 I'm definitely gonna have them pull their profile and I'll 2:05:36.760 --> 2:05:38.440 have my team sit down and we're gonna look at 2:05:38.480 --> 2:05:41.160 everything they have going on. And these are costs and 2:05:41.200 --> 2:05:45.640 expenses that I absorbed. I don't charge its back to them, 2:05:45.680 --> 2:05:46.880 you know what I mean, And we're gonna look at 2:05:46.920 --> 2:05:48.600 what's going on with them. We're gonna get them right, 2:05:48.680 --> 2:05:50.880 you know what I mean. A lot of these they 2:05:50.880 --> 2:05:54.080 come and they got fucking repolls and lates. They don't 2:05:54.160 --> 2:05:56.480 know they just get the call them out. You know, 2:05:56.520 --> 2:05:58.920 I paid when I paid, so I definitely want to 2:05:58.960 --> 2:06:01.400 get them right with that. Yeah, you know, you can't 2:06:01.400 --> 2:06:03.560 be running around here with no medical and shit. You 2:06:03.600 --> 2:06:05.520 know what I'm saying. You got your dinner work done? 2:06:05.560 --> 2:06:07.360 You need to do that. A lot of your artists, 2:06:07.400 --> 2:06:11.080 for real, y'all got ten thousand dollars of clothes on 2:06:11.360 --> 2:06:13.680 two hundred thousand dollars a jury. You know, listen, I 2:06:13.720 --> 2:06:15.760 know you got used to looking at yourself like that, 2:06:16.000 --> 2:06:18.480 you know, bro, going to the dinners, spend put your 2:06:18.480 --> 2:06:20.640 teeth together, get and get your teeth together. Man, It's 2:06:20.680 --> 2:06:22.840 just real shit. Man, y'all need to definitely do that. 2:06:22.920 --> 2:06:25.360 And make sure that your kids don't come up the 2:06:25.360 --> 2:06:27.280 way you come up because you used to seeing yourself 2:06:27.400 --> 2:06:29.800 like that, and make sure you keep them right and 2:06:29.880 --> 2:06:33.080 keep them together, you know what I mean. So you 2:06:33.120 --> 2:06:34.840 know it's just about you know, I want them to 2:06:34.840 --> 2:06:36.680 be a reflection to me and then grow to become 2:06:36.720 --> 2:06:39.040 better than me. That's fair, you know what I mean. 2:06:39.960 --> 2:06:42.600 You know, Segue and how you you know, we were 2:06:42.640 --> 2:06:44.400 just talking about how your daughter, you know, unfortunately she 2:06:44.480 --> 2:06:48.000 tore Achilles. You just tore Achilles. But you always you know, 2:06:48.560 --> 2:06:50.440 you're a great wha text, I'm like you all make 2:06:50.480 --> 2:06:52.840 Cais with you. You're a great father man, like you know, 2:06:53.160 --> 2:06:55.560 whether your daughter has a cheerleading competition in Vegas, you're there. 2:06:56.200 --> 2:06:59.440 You always say like, you know, I want my daughter 2:06:59.840 --> 2:07:02.760 like I want my children to not follow in my footsteps, 2:07:03.200 --> 2:07:04.640 my son to be better than me. Like me and 2:07:04.680 --> 2:07:07.040 my son. Kind of we hit a rough patch couple 2:07:07.120 --> 2:07:09.200 months ago, you know what I mean. But he's right 2:07:09.200 --> 2:07:11.200 there at that stage where he's seeing it his way 2:07:11.200 --> 2:07:15.240 and I'm seeing the way. Twenty just turned twenty seven, right, 2:07:15.360 --> 2:07:18.160 But you know he's been man in the house all 2:07:18.280 --> 2:07:20.120 this time because I'm not there half the time. Me 2:07:20.160 --> 2:07:24.600 and my wife here there they're whatever, right, But you know, 2:07:24.640 --> 2:07:27.680 we hit a rough pasture where you know, he did 2:07:27.720 --> 2:07:30.720 something that I respected he did. I came home one 2:07:30.800 --> 2:07:34.720 day and he was gone. You know what I'm saying. 2:07:35.400 --> 2:07:37.440 He was gone. But at this on the flip side, 2:07:37.480 --> 2:07:40.680 what I'm gonna do make him come home? Man grown? Right? 2:07:40.760 --> 2:07:42.880 You know I didne gave him everything I can give him. 2:07:42.880 --> 2:07:44.280 When I'm still here to give me some more. He 2:07:44.360 --> 2:07:46.360 know I'm here if he slipping and follow him and 2:07:46.440 --> 2:07:48.480 catch him and I got him. But you know, just 2:07:48.520 --> 2:07:50.680 the fact that he stepped out there, let me know, okay, 2:07:51.160 --> 2:07:53.640 you know, he manning up. You know what I'm saying, 2:07:53.680 --> 2:07:56.560 He's manning up. Do you How do your kids feel 2:07:56.560 --> 2:08:01.760 about your public persona? They really don't say nothing to 2:08:01.760 --> 2:08:04.720 me about it, cause you know, me, my kids growing 2:08:04.800 --> 2:08:09.960 up around me, I never heard who I was. They don't. Yeah, 2:08:10.000 --> 2:08:14.600 they you know, they'll come tell me certain things, and 2:08:14.720 --> 2:08:17.600 sometimes they'll know when I did something because they because 2:08:17.640 --> 2:08:20.720 it's on the internet, their phone goes crazy. People, you know, 2:08:20.760 --> 2:08:22.760 I mean, people want to answer this, but you know, 2:08:22.920 --> 2:08:24.600 they don't really say too and they don't really pay 2:08:24.680 --> 2:08:27.920 no attention because they watched me. People be thinking I'm 2:08:27.920 --> 2:08:30.720 sering half the time when I'm doing it, I'm laughing. 2:08:30.720 --> 2:08:33.200 They knowing I'm doing something because I'm laughing while I'm 2:08:33.240 --> 2:08:36.160 doing it. And then the world just takes it very, 2:08:36.280 --> 2:08:40.919 very serious, which answers my question to where the perception 2:08:41.120 --> 2:08:44.640 of the industry. Right, people don't know what's real and 2:08:44.680 --> 2:08:49.120 what's fate that's real. That's crazy because like you had 2:08:49.120 --> 2:08:52.560 said earlier, like six or nine, kind of his mission 2:08:52.640 --> 2:08:56.040 is to expose quote unquote the streets, right that's his 2:08:56.120 --> 2:09:00.080 mission and what shouldn't be because if you know that 2:09:00.120 --> 2:09:01.680 they not coming for you and you ain't got the 2:09:01.720 --> 2:09:03.920 people with you, you should just take that as an 2:09:03.960 --> 2:09:07.400 opportunity to just live your life. Well, I was gonna say, like, 2:09:07.880 --> 2:09:12.600 how much of what he's saying is true is in 2:09:12.720 --> 2:09:17.440 terms of the quote unquote streets kind of and the industry, 2:09:17.560 --> 2:09:19.880 Like you said, right that the perception is that they're 2:09:19.920 --> 2:09:22.680 both the same when they're not. Right. No, it definitely 2:09:22.720 --> 2:09:25.040 not so. Isn't what he's trying to do kind of 2:09:26.160 --> 2:09:29.760 exposing what you're saying is the biggest misconception is definitely 2:09:29.840 --> 2:09:36.440 it's not just listen, man, I don't advise any of 2:09:36.480 --> 2:09:40.080 the youth to get a life to the streets. The 2:09:40.280 --> 2:09:44.360 first chance and first opportunity you have to get out 2:09:44.360 --> 2:09:46.440 of the streets to get out of together. Whether it's 2:09:46.440 --> 2:09:50.200 going to college, whether it's a foreign exchange program in 2:09:50.320 --> 2:09:53.280 another country, whether you go to the military or the 2:09:53.320 --> 2:09:57.560 police academy, I'm telling you take that route, take that lane. 2:09:58.160 --> 2:10:01.400 I need more of our youth that's crips and blood 2:10:01.480 --> 2:10:06.120 orientated uncles, brothers that got eight nine generations of this 2:10:06.240 --> 2:10:08.480 shit to go to the police academy, and we still 2:10:08.680 --> 2:10:11.760 complaining about how they doing us when they pull us over. 2:10:12.040 --> 2:10:14.680 I want somebody to pull me over that understands where 2:10:14.680 --> 2:10:18.600 I come from. That's not nervous, and that's not nervous 2:10:18.600 --> 2:10:21.480 and jittery and got their lunch money took. You know, 2:10:21.520 --> 2:10:23.480 the only way we're gonna turn it around is to 2:10:23.480 --> 2:10:25.960 put some of us in there. I think that you 2:10:26.000 --> 2:10:29.160 can't take the house without getting in the house. How 2:10:29.800 --> 2:10:31.840 change it if you're not that's what we gotta do. 2:10:31.920 --> 2:10:35.800 I don't. I haven't. I haven't made the decision of 2:10:35.840 --> 2:10:38.320 being part of the decision making and over twenty five 2:10:38.400 --> 2:10:43.360 years of somebody getting put on my neighborhood and then 2:10:43.520 --> 2:10:46.760 my homework kids just gang bang that I run across. 2:10:47.120 --> 2:10:49.440 I don't even allow them to call me big homie 2:10:49.840 --> 2:10:52.160 because I don't want to have no gang association of 2:10:52.280 --> 2:10:55.080 tides with you like that, because that ain't what I 2:10:55.120 --> 2:10:59.560 want for you. If if you had it, if I 2:10:59.600 --> 2:11:04.080 had it our way, it wouldn't be nobody else initiated 2:11:04.120 --> 2:11:08.200 from this day forward, and hopefully ten, fifteen, twenty years 2:11:08.200 --> 2:11:11.080 from now, it'll all phase out and we just be 2:11:11.240 --> 2:11:14.440 one as a people. Yeah, man, I just don't like 2:11:14.480 --> 2:11:16.600 you because I don't like you, not because of what 2:11:16.720 --> 2:11:19.160 somebody did ten years ago. That's from the same place 2:11:19.200 --> 2:11:21.880 for from. I mean, that's really what Paige, I'm mom, 2:11:21.960 --> 2:11:23.960 if you really want to know. Yeah, man, I think 2:11:24.040 --> 2:11:27.520 that's I mean, that's that's hopefully that rubs off on 2:11:27.560 --> 2:11:29.880 a lot of this generation. I'm not gonna denounce that 2:11:30.440 --> 2:11:33.800 I'm a thug and I come from that gangster shit 2:11:33.840 --> 2:11:35.600 and I come from it. I ain't gonna never denounce 2:11:35.640 --> 2:11:37.760 that because I ain't ashamed, and I think that's what 2:11:37.920 --> 2:11:39.480 made me who I am today to be able to 2:11:39.520 --> 2:11:42.000 have these type of conversations that had the top of 2:11:42.080 --> 2:11:44.680 influence that I have on some of these youngsters. I 2:11:44.720 --> 2:11:46.520 don't denounce it, but I'm not gonna be one to 2:11:46.520 --> 2:11:48.840 sit here and be a hypocrite and say that's the 2:11:48.880 --> 2:11:52.960 way to go because some of us didn't make it out. Yeah, 2:11:52.960 --> 2:11:57.480 that's real, man, that's real. I think keeping it one 2:11:57.600 --> 2:12:00.720 hundred on a one hundred episode on one hundred episod So, So, 2:12:00.800 --> 2:12:03.360 what is the latest with Blue Face fighting six ' nine? 2:12:03.400 --> 2:12:07.080 Is it? For sure? They both agreed to it. It's 2:12:07.080 --> 2:12:09.160 probably gonna be something that happens in the Middle East. 2:12:09.480 --> 2:12:12.120 It just get the funds up because Triller for that 2:12:12.240 --> 2:12:15.320 to happen. N You know, it's a lot of my 2:12:15.400 --> 2:12:19.080 investors in Saudi and Bahrain and Qatar that's coming to 2:12:19.160 --> 2:12:21.160 the table with it, because you know, that's gonna be 2:12:21.200 --> 2:12:24.320 a big, big bag, real real big bag. Blue Face 2:12:24.400 --> 2:12:27.080 is probably gonna mop him up for sure. I mean, listen, 2:12:27.160 --> 2:12:30.040 I got all faith that Blue Face is gonna win 2:12:30.080 --> 2:12:32.480 the fight. I saw blue Face can like has his hands, 2:12:32.480 --> 2:12:35.160 his face, can fight, he can fighting, can box, and 2:12:35.200 --> 2:12:38.600 he left learned, you know, a valuable lesson when it 2:12:38.680 --> 2:12:41.320 comes to training all little inside jokes up and I 2:12:41.400 --> 2:12:44.320 know that he won't do a violate again. You know what, 2:12:44.320 --> 2:12:46.160 I would you ever step in the ring as a 2:12:46.200 --> 2:12:49.360 celebrity celebrity fight definitely on you know, if the bag 2:12:49.400 --> 2:12:51.840 is right, you definitely get My money is on you. 2:12:52.640 --> 2:12:55.920 I'm not gonna box, We're gonna lock up. It's gonna 2:12:56.040 --> 2:12:57.760 I'm gonna try to get it out the way quick. 2:12:58.560 --> 2:13:01.040 I've never been a box I've been a brawler, you 2:13:01.080 --> 2:13:03.240 know what I mean. So that's what that is. You know, 2:13:03.240 --> 2:13:05.280 I'm gonna call on Mike to train me. My partner, 2:13:05.480 --> 2:13:08.000 Mike Tyson. You know what I'm saying, I definitely might 2:13:08.080 --> 2:13:10.960 gonna be my trainer. What what is Mike Tyson like? 2:13:11.280 --> 2:13:17.040 Uh yeah, real, real, don't know who he is? Mike 2:13:17.160 --> 2:13:19.200 has no not to say. He don't know who he 2:13:19.240 --> 2:13:21.440 is as a person. He doesn't understand who he is 2:13:21.480 --> 2:13:23.840 to the world. Don't give a fuck about that all 2:13:23.920 --> 2:13:26.120 that famous Mike Yo wagon. Let's go to the store. 2:13:26.160 --> 2:13:29.800 He's getting the car with Mike Tyson. Yeah, walk to 2:13:29.920 --> 2:13:32.600 the to the store. You know, I'm cool as hell, 2:13:32.800 --> 2:13:36.720 laid back down the earth and he's gonna speak his mind. 2:13:37.320 --> 2:13:40.040 Has he convinced you to try any psychedelics? Whack? Because 2:13:40.040 --> 2:13:42.120 you know he's a psychedelical You know, I don't he 2:13:42.240 --> 2:13:44.680 know everybody, I don't do nothing, So no, I know 2:13:44.720 --> 2:13:47.360 you don't do nothing, But psychedelics are different with that. 2:13:47.600 --> 2:13:50.920 I know nobody wants to see me do anything. I 2:13:50.920 --> 2:13:57.760 think I don't want to see you. What is mushrooms? Oh? 2:13:57.960 --> 2:14:03.360 Hell no, I think you could cut that's out. You 2:14:03.360 --> 2:14:06.000 wouldn't You wouldn't do a shroom trip with Mike tysaid? No, 2:14:06.160 --> 2:14:09.080 I'm not doing man, what I think I'll die? No, 2:14:09.120 --> 2:14:13.200 you won't die. Yeah. Reborn kids do not listen to 2:14:13.240 --> 2:14:15.960 this type of conversation. This is pure you know what. 2:14:16.040 --> 2:14:17.920 And I want to touch on this too, man like, 2:14:18.720 --> 2:14:23.080 because we got a situation going on in our streets 2:14:23.400 --> 2:14:27.400 with the drugs. Man. Rest in peace to Michael K. Williams, 2:14:27.480 --> 2:14:30.680 A good dude, man good. I was just I just 2:14:30.720 --> 2:14:34.560 got through watching Chalky white Boardwalk Empire, one of his 2:14:34.600 --> 2:14:38.320 best characters. But the kids, y'all need to understand. I 2:14:38.360 --> 2:14:40.480 don't know if y'all know what Russian roulette is. Russian 2:14:40.520 --> 2:14:43.440 roulette when they take a revolver, they put one bullet 2:14:43.480 --> 2:14:45.920 in there and they spend the chamber and they clicked 2:14:45.960 --> 2:14:49.839 the gun, and if that bullet lies in the wrong spot, 2:14:50.280 --> 2:14:55.600 you're dead. Right, these days, these people that are manufacturing 2:14:55.640 --> 2:15:00.960 these drugs are lacing these drugs with this fat and right. 2:15:01.480 --> 2:15:04.160 And the people that you are buying these drugs from, 2:15:04.560 --> 2:15:07.680 they don't know if they laced it not. And they 2:15:07.960 --> 2:15:09.680 tell you I got the pure ship, but they don't 2:15:09.720 --> 2:15:15.080 know playing Russian roulette with your life taking these pills 2:15:15.560 --> 2:15:21.440 to I strongly advise you guys to stop. You take it, 2:15:21.760 --> 2:15:26.440 you go to sleep, you don't wake up period period, right, 2:15:27.160 --> 2:15:31.040 And I really strongly advise you guys to look it 2:15:31.080 --> 2:15:34.280 to yourself to ask yourself, is this drug, this pill 2:15:34.360 --> 2:15:37.880 whatever it may be worth the risk of you possibly 2:15:38.120 --> 2:15:41.680 not waking up. I think if you look at the 2:15:41.760 --> 2:15:45.040 legends we've lost in the last three or four years, 2:15:45.440 --> 2:15:47.880 I mean, there was a comedian that passed away. There 2:15:47.960 --> 2:15:50.520 was like and I gotta correct myself because I was 2:15:50.560 --> 2:15:54.280 real ignorant to what this this fatanoh was And I 2:15:54.320 --> 2:15:57.320 think I could be wrong. I think this might be 2:15:57.440 --> 2:16:01.480 what killed mac miller. It right, and when mac millan died, 2:16:01.520 --> 2:16:03.560 I made a statement like, yo, that's on him that 2:16:03.640 --> 2:16:06.080 being know what he was doing taking all these drugs 2:16:06.080 --> 2:16:08.720 he overdosed. I was done the impression that dude was 2:16:08.800 --> 2:16:10.960 just abusing, just doing a bunch. Now I think he 2:16:11.440 --> 2:16:15.880 took the wrong ship, the wrong fucking drugs. So you know, 2:16:15.960 --> 2:16:18.560 I want to you know, my apologies, man, you know 2:16:18.560 --> 2:16:21.280 what I mean, because I really I was really ignorant 2:16:21.320 --> 2:16:23.920 to what that nod was. I didn't know, you know, 2:16:24.400 --> 2:16:26.880 like that's that's not some household ship in the street. 2:16:26.960 --> 2:16:28.600 Did you see the video of the cop who took 2:16:28.640 --> 2:16:31.320 a whiff of it on a stop and they almost 2:16:31.360 --> 2:16:33.320 died on the side of the street. He was in 2:16:33.400 --> 2:16:35.720 San Diego. This is serious, bro. That's why I tell 2:16:35.760 --> 2:16:38.600 my kids, you don't accept the talent all. It's the 2:16:38.720 --> 2:16:43.200 cheapest ship, right and stretches it like stretches. Imagine if 2:16:43.240 --> 2:16:44.960 you have a Q coke and you're a drug dealer 2:16:44.959 --> 2:16:47.160 on the times five, you can stretch your times five 2:16:47.240 --> 2:16:50.240 and crazy shit. But the problem is when you kill 2:16:50.240 --> 2:16:52.760 how many people are gonna I'm not gonna lie, man, 2:16:52.840 --> 2:16:55.880 listen to our rappers out here that's influencing the kids. 2:16:57.160 --> 2:17:00.320 A lot of it gonna start with y'all, man, because 2:17:00.400 --> 2:17:03.520 y'all are glorifying it. And I know y'all not glorifying 2:17:03.959 --> 2:17:06.760 using drugs that have fetanol, but the fact that this 2:17:06.879 --> 2:17:08.880 is how they sneak it in on us, you know 2:17:08.920 --> 2:17:11.200 what I mean. You know, maybe y'all need to be 2:17:11.240 --> 2:17:14.000 a little more educational about it. I can't tell y'all 2:17:14.000 --> 2:17:16.440 what to do, what to say, how to live y'all life. 2:17:16.480 --> 2:17:18.920 But we all got little brothers, you know what I mean, 2:17:18.959 --> 2:17:21.400 We all got family, you know what I mean? Where 2:17:21.879 --> 2:17:24.400 maybe we may want to educate them to where. Yeah, 2:17:24.440 --> 2:17:28.360 I take zanni of this that I you know, this 2:17:28.400 --> 2:17:31.760 ship is getting bad. You may want to eliminate, you 2:17:31.800 --> 2:17:34.880 know what I mean? Doing this because of what's going 2:17:34.920 --> 2:17:36.600 on with it, you know what I mean, you know, 2:17:36.760 --> 2:17:38.920 just you know, just my reach to all you rappers 2:17:39.000 --> 2:17:42.480 that yeah, I just saw, uh you know, I was 2:17:42.560 --> 2:17:44.600 I was watching an episode of Joe Rogan, Uh that 2:17:44.760 --> 2:17:47.080 just came out, and he was talking about Michael K. 2:17:47.160 --> 2:17:49.360 Williams who died. And obviously there was some comedians in 2:17:49.400 --> 2:17:51.880 a house in Venice where I'm still a little up 2:17:51.879 --> 2:17:54.680 in there because I'm here in cocaine. I'm hearing hair Ron. 2:17:55.800 --> 2:17:58.800 I don't know, I'm hearing this cocaine right as far 2:17:58.879 --> 2:18:02.440 as like the day before the comedians, the comedians in 2:18:02.520 --> 2:18:04.879 Venice ship right doing. I mean, look, at the end 2:18:04.879 --> 2:18:07.840 of the day, I've never done cocaine. I'm the only 2:18:07.879 --> 2:18:11.160 drugs I've ever done. But you know how it is, 2:18:11.320 --> 2:18:13.560 you've been in a situation where everyone's passing around to 2:18:13.560 --> 2:18:16.840 play the coke. I've witnessed that. I've never participated in it. 2:18:16.879 --> 2:18:21.039 But ship lakes with everybody who hits it is on 2:18:21.080 --> 2:18:24.280 the ground, it's gone. But Joe Rogan was saying, like 2:18:24.920 --> 2:18:28.680 the what what probably is the like uneasy truth that 2:18:28.680 --> 2:18:30.800 people aren't gonna want to like admit to as far 2:18:30.800 --> 2:18:34.560 as politicians is like you gotta legalize all drugs so 2:18:34.640 --> 2:18:37.720 the product at least is controlled because people are gonna 2:18:37.800 --> 2:18:41.320 do drugs either way, right Fededanols. Hey, look, they catch 2:18:41.360 --> 2:18:43.280 you with that ship, they give me you they putting 2:18:43.280 --> 2:18:45.240 you in under the fucking prison. Catch you with that 2:18:45.360 --> 2:18:48.720 fal That ship is like what PCP was on steroids. 2:18:48.879 --> 2:18:51.320 They catch it with that, you out of here? Yeah, man, 2:18:51.360 --> 2:18:54.760 And and it's crazy because there's no way to there's 2:18:54.800 --> 2:18:59.480 no quality control in the drugs, in drugs anymore. What's 2:18:59.520 --> 2:19:02.959 the quality control? I don't know because even that's what 2:19:02.959 --> 2:19:05.240 I'm saying. All I know is it ship. It ain't 2:19:05.240 --> 2:19:08.039 for us, it ain't for my people, nobody's people, it 2:19:08.080 --> 2:19:10.440 ain't for our youth, man. And we really need to 2:19:10.480 --> 2:19:14.680 start educating these kids on what ftanol is and what 2:19:14.720 --> 2:19:18.160 it would do to you if they happened to be it, 2:19:18.720 --> 2:19:20.720 because I don't think they know. I didn't know at 2:19:20.760 --> 2:19:24.200 one point in time. Right. Yeah, it is Russian. It's 2:19:24.200 --> 2:19:27.840 literally Russian Russian. Let bro, if you get it, it's over. 2:19:28.120 --> 2:19:32.400 So yeah, it's crazy, man. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 2:19:32.400 --> 2:19:34.240 So we definitely to do that. Are here you back 2:19:34.280 --> 2:19:37.680 at radio? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you're talking about we launched, 2:19:37.760 --> 2:19:39.920 you know, it launched the syndicated show back back in 2:19:39.959 --> 2:19:41.680 real ninety two three. It's been a real ninety two 2:19:41.760 --> 2:19:44.080 three doing this thing, you know, seeing the podcast, bro, 2:19:44.320 --> 2:19:46.360 I gotta let go and then back on the station 2:19:46.600 --> 2:19:48.920 said seven months where they do that at Oh did 2:19:48.959 --> 2:19:53.000 you let get let go what you ventured off to do? Right? 2:19:53.240 --> 2:19:56.760 You went back to radio with that what you was doing, 2:19:56.800 --> 2:19:58.600 you know what I mean? So now it ain't like 2:19:58.600 --> 2:20:00.720 you had to shut this down. This is part of that. 2:20:00.720 --> 2:20:02.880 The way I looked at what happened with me was 2:20:04.160 --> 2:20:07.560 I had already had the thought in my mind to 2:20:07.800 --> 2:20:11.560 leave terrestrial radio and launch my own syndicated show, because 2:20:11.600 --> 2:20:13.520 I see that that's where the business is heading. Right. 2:20:14.000 --> 2:20:16.760 So when everything happened, you know, for people who don't know, 2:20:16.760 --> 2:20:18.959 I got to let go in December for budget cuts, right, 2:20:19.080 --> 2:20:21.879 I heeart laid off like two thousand people or something. Actually, 2:20:22.120 --> 2:20:24.720 so I got let laid off, but I didn't. I 2:20:24.800 --> 2:20:27.280 wasn't emotional about it. I was like, hey, thank you 2:20:27.360 --> 2:20:29.640 Doc for the look. Thank you. Ao kept my relation. 2:20:29.680 --> 2:20:31.120 I'm like, look, I told he Ao, I said, look, 2:20:31.160 --> 2:20:34.360 you know I'm launching this radio show, and you know, 2:20:34.400 --> 2:20:36.240 I got put on in Vegas at first at AO 2:20:36.280 --> 2:20:39.000 station in Vegas and then you know, just put my 2:20:39.040 --> 2:20:42.680 head down and got to it, and an opportunity presented itself. 2:20:42.720 --> 2:20:45.000 You've always been a real one, you know, and it 2:20:45.080 --> 2:20:47.160 got my attention being a real one. So you know 2:20:47.320 --> 2:20:49.600 it ain't gonna stop you bro, Like I'm gonna be 2:20:49.640 --> 2:20:52.119 really you know your best is yet to come. Yeah, man, 2:20:52.160 --> 2:20:55.640 I feel that. I mean, I value our relationship because 2:20:55.640 --> 2:20:57.440 I know it's gonna come a day while I'm walking 2:20:57.480 --> 2:20:59.959 in somewhere and it's going to the decision gonna be 2:21:00.080 --> 2:21:02.640 up to Bootleg Care And I'm a value that I 2:21:02.720 --> 2:21:05.360 got fifteen twenty twenty five years and with this man, 2:21:05.400 --> 2:21:07.080 you know what I mean. So it's like, you know, 2:21:07.200 --> 2:21:10.560 that's how I build my relationships with people. So you know, 2:21:10.640 --> 2:21:13.480 I see it in you. You understand this business. You're 2:21:13.520 --> 2:21:15.959 taking your hits in this business. I was back for 2:21:16.040 --> 2:21:18.680 this business and I know you still reaching in this business. 2:21:18.680 --> 2:21:20.320 So you know the best for you you have to come. Man. 2:21:20.320 --> 2:21:22.160 I say, yeah, I would just tell everyone, man, bet 2:21:22.200 --> 2:21:24.760 on yourself, because literally that's all I did. I just 2:21:24.760 --> 2:21:26.760 went all in on me. I said, I'm gona launch 2:21:26.800 --> 2:21:30.040 a radio show and we launched with kkf R as 2:21:30.080 --> 2:21:32.440 our first affiliate in Phoenix. And now you know we're 2:21:32.480 --> 2:21:35.840 on seven stations, probably about to be like fifteen real soon. 2:21:36.840 --> 2:21:40.280 Did my YouTube shit? Let y'all know, my little brother, 2:21:40.360 --> 2:21:42.840 ray J, my business partner, is still working. He loves 2:21:42.879 --> 2:21:46.000 to get back to the community. Ray J. Ray J's 2:21:46.040 --> 2:21:49.280 election has this safe sex campaign going on. He got 2:21:49.280 --> 2:21:52.520 his new his new line of ratronics. No, he got 2:21:52.560 --> 2:21:55.560 new condoms coming out. There's gonna be ray J condoms. 2:21:55.560 --> 2:21:58.200 You got condoms, they better be magnumized because we've seen 2:21:58.200 --> 2:22:01.680 the video. That man is packed out of it. I 2:22:01.720 --> 2:22:05.600 don't know nothing about that. You didn't watch them sex tape. Listen, 2:22:05.920 --> 2:22:08.480 you didn't see the sex tape. All I know is 2:22:08.560 --> 2:22:11.320 this is Kanye high lobing me. Bro. We got part 2:22:11.400 --> 2:22:13.760 two on the laptop. Ain't never been seen. We'd love 2:22:13.800 --> 2:22:16.240 for you to have it. It'd be a great personal 2:22:16.280 --> 2:22:19.560 private n ft. Wait wait wait, wait wait, So there's 2:22:19.600 --> 2:22:24.440 another ray J kimk sex tape that's that we haven't seen. Yeah, 2:22:24.480 --> 2:22:26.600 that was more graphic and better than the first of one. 2:22:27.520 --> 2:22:29.400 Is it ever gonna see the light of day? I mean, 2:22:29.400 --> 2:22:31.600 I wouldn't meet personally I would never give it to 2:22:31.720 --> 2:22:36.760 anybody but Kanye, because that's he's some mother, his children. 2:22:37.080 --> 2:22:38.840 It's a lot of people that didn't try to reach 2:22:38.879 --> 2:22:41.000 for that for a price tag. Obviously Kanye could buy 2:22:41.000 --> 2:22:42.320 it from you, or would you just give it to him? 2:22:42.320 --> 2:22:46.000 And say what I probably would because it's Kanye. I 2:22:46.120 --> 2:22:49.320 probably would give it to Kanye. Kanye, it's ray J. 2:22:49.480 --> 2:22:51.760 In the same mind state as you, because that was 2:22:51.840 --> 2:22:54.200 my little brother. You know, he may we might wake 2:22:54.280 --> 2:22:56.480 up one day and Ray is like, fuck it, nah no, 2:22:56.760 --> 2:23:01.000 because you know com force last ya remember Ray's father. 2:23:01.120 --> 2:23:04.840 Now understand what I'm saying. So and ray J really 2:23:04.959 --> 2:23:06.879 and the boss is you know, he's a great He's 2:23:06.879 --> 2:23:09.000 a great guy. So you know that's I think we 2:23:09.040 --> 2:23:11.640 would probably gift that to him. You don't know what 2:23:11.680 --> 2:23:13.680 I'm saying. If ever that day was to come, we 2:23:13.680 --> 2:23:15.280 was just sat out and we would gift that to him. 2:23:15.440 --> 2:23:17.600 He got mother, he got children. By that one, you've 2:23:17.600 --> 2:23:21.080 seen the part two. We've been in our life ten twelve, 2:23:21.160 --> 2:23:26.440 so you've seen the unreleased Wow, and it was better 2:23:26.480 --> 2:23:32.080 than the first one, longer all that Wow. Hey, Well listen, 2:23:33.400 --> 2:23:36.959 uh Kanye tapping with waq one hund yeah, we gift 2:23:37.000 --> 2:23:39.240 that to him. Well, you know that just that's for him. 2:23:39.320 --> 2:23:40.760 You know what I mean. We can't put that out 2:23:40.760 --> 2:23:44.560 there in the world like that. We disrespectful. In worst 2:23:44.560 --> 2:23:47.760 case scenario, Kanye becomes the president in like eight years 2:23:48.000 --> 2:23:49.920 and you want to hit like a billion dollar lick. 2:23:50.920 --> 2:23:54.600 I'm just saying. I'm just saying. You know, you know 2:23:54.640 --> 2:23:58.039 what's bigger than Kanye and Kim what those children? I 2:23:58.120 --> 2:24:00.959 understand the Internet. That is true. Man, got kids not 2:24:01.040 --> 2:24:03.480 gonna happen, not on my watch. Hey man, that's what 2:24:03.600 --> 2:24:05.720 makes you different. Whack You know what I'm saying. So 2:24:06.000 --> 2:24:08.520 Whack one hundred, Episode one hundred of the bluele had 2:24:08.600 --> 2:24:14.240 podcasts West up ending with a fucking big just a 2:24:14.440 --> 2:24:18.800 huge revelation. So let's go. Let's go, let's go, let's go. 2:24:18.800 --> 2:24:21.640 Shout out to all my family, my loved ones, everybody 2:24:21.640 --> 2:24:25.200 out there that supported me. Incredible diapers coming man, Steve Marconnell. 2:24:25.320 --> 2:24:29.600 Fifteen wait is it? Fifteen hours of soaking up the 2:24:30.240 --> 2:24:33.080 crazy man. Incredible diapers with the people. They're like, yo, 2:24:33.160 --> 2:24:37.199 my babies, by kids wake it up at night they dry. Wow, 2:24:37.400 --> 2:24:39.800 went a lot of money. I really want shout out 2:24:39.800 --> 2:24:42.360 to American gangs to American gangs inspired me to do 2:24:42.400 --> 2:24:44.800 what I did because I went Frank Lucas and went 2:24:44.879 --> 2:24:48.000 to the source like I went to China. Me and 2:24:48.040 --> 2:24:50.320 my pipe was in the pick up. My business partner, 2:24:50.360 --> 2:24:52.560 Travis Wilson. We was in the pick up and going 2:24:52.600 --> 2:24:55.560 straight to where they make the diapers yep out the middle, 2:24:56.040 --> 2:24:58.600 and we went out there right there. They witnessed it, 2:24:58.680 --> 2:25:00.840 you know what I mean? It was crazy, so yo, 2:25:00.959 --> 2:25:02.440 they could have made a left and or right my 2:25:02.520 --> 2:25:05.760 ass with another kid. You would never know. There is 2:25:05.800 --> 2:25:09.160 man Whack one hundred, Episode one hundred, The Bullet Hit Podcasts, 2:25:10.360 --> 2:25:16.080 and I'm gonna leak something out. Instagram been tripping, y'all. 2:25:16.080 --> 2:25:20.640 Stay tuned on the lookout for insti Rated coming soon. 2:25:20.760 --> 2:25:23.840 Insta what insti rated, Well, they took your ig down 2:25:23.879 --> 2:25:25.840 for a bid take it every two weeks with something 2:25:25.879 --> 2:25:27.880 because I saw your your Instagram after the sixth nine 2:25:27.879 --> 2:25:29.280 shiit was just gone. And then it came back and 2:25:29.320 --> 2:25:32.000 there was this this profile that had like eighteen thousand followers. 2:25:32.000 --> 2:25:34.160 If one en youre me that wasn't even that ain't 2:25:34.160 --> 2:25:37.440 me whacked one hundred officials not missed a fake page. 2:25:37.440 --> 2:25:39.600 They'd be getting people to send them money for consulting 2:25:39.680 --> 2:25:42.600 fees and all that do not send them nothing. But 2:25:42.680 --> 2:25:44.800 you know, it's getting to a point to watch what 2:25:44.800 --> 2:25:47.600 they do with Bootsy and a few other artists is like, 2:25:47.680 --> 2:25:50.120 you know, I got a nice little tech team. Shout 2:25:50.120 --> 2:25:52.160 out to my man saved my man say, I'm and 2:25:52.240 --> 2:25:55.760 Brave Energy drink. We didn't put our tech team together, 2:25:55.800 --> 2:25:58.280 and we didn't we about about two million lines of 2:25:58.280 --> 2:26:00.320 cold in so you might you can be watch your 2:26:00.320 --> 2:26:02.920 own social platform definitely where indie life is coming and 2:26:03.000 --> 2:26:06.160 instagrated is coming. There. It is my censor there. It 2:26:06.200 --> 2:26:09.120 is whack on there, it is leading nothing, post whatever 2:26:09.120 --> 2:26:11.400 you want. You know what I'm saying, get your money, 2:26:11.440 --> 2:26:12.440 Boom West Up