WEBVTT - Draft Show: What Has The NFL Combine Become? 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:07.200 This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys, 0:00:07.400 --> 0:00:10.040 I'm the our war room for in center news and 0:00:10.119 --> 0:00:14.320 draft analysis from deep within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:19.200 at the Star in Fresco, Dallas Cowboys Select Late and 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:24.320 now your hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman, and Brian brought 0:00:24.400 --> 0:00:26.920 us well, Welcome to another week of the Draft Show 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:31.600 from the SWBC Mortgage Studios. As the Big Boys guy says, 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:35.360 Brian brought us here with Dane Brugler, David Hellman, Kent Garrison, 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:40.239 Executive Producing Glad to have everybody on board with us 0:00:40.280 --> 0:00:44.640 today as we get into the seventy days. 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We do appreciate their fine work. 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:19.520 Their fine product helps us along during these draft draft 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:22.080 days to kind of, you know, after you have a 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:24.360 busy day, sit back and have one talk about it. 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:27.840 We're gonna talk about it today because Brian Bross is 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:31.399 a little hot. We just you just refer to yourself 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:33.160 in the third person, so you must be, yeah, a 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:36.759 little hot right now? All right, what's on your mind? Yeah? Yeah, 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:39.160 I'm getting tired of the league telling me who I 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:41.840 can look at and who I can't look at. You know, 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:46.840 it's this combine those folks that work off Park Avenue 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:49.040 up there in New York. I think that, sir, address 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:51.240 still least to be a four or five park, I 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:54.160 think is what it was. They they know the train 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:56.520 schedule to Connecticut. Trust me, they don't know what goes 0:01:56.560 --> 0:01:59.520 on on these teams at a club level, especially scouting 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:02.760 at a club level. Don't tell me what players I 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:05.160 can and cannot look at. And for those of you 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:08.720 not following Brian, somebody fill them in. I'm hot to 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:11.720 the league. Well, we knew that Jeffrey Simmons and Preston 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:14.440 Williams would not be invited to combine, but the league 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:18.480 receives the way to really, really, really good football players. 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:22.680 League rescinded its invitation to Louisiana Tech defensive end Jalen 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:28.400 Ferguson yesterday, prompting a whole new line of conversation because 0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:31.720 they did invite him. And so I've been I've been 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:34.480 outsick for most of the week. So Ketch, welcome back, though, 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:37.480 wisdom teeth if I'm not up to speed on my details. 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:40.919 They found out about some violent altercations in his past. 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:44.000 He got into a fight at McDonald's. But it's in 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:47.480 it's like years when he was eighteen years old. Yeah, okay, 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:50.200 eighteen years Like if it had happened between the end 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:52.400 of the season and now, I think that's a different kind. 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:54.480 If I ran for president right now something, I'd have 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:56.679 no chance. Oh god, they would dig it. They would 0:02:56.760 --> 0:02:58.799 dig up so much stuff that's in you know, you 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:01.680 would be on your fourth handle by like the first week. 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:03.919 I'm the guy that wants to pay the players. Rumor 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:07.560 that so they so he did this when he was eighteen. Yeah, 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:11.959 I'm tired of the league. I tired. We've had this 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:15.040 conversation and and I know, you know Dane, Dane was 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:16.920 talking about it on Twitter. Guess Joe Mixon. We had 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:19.960 this conversation about Joe Mixon. I thought this was going 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:22.959 to kind of go away. Guys. I mean, I understand 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:25.440 you have to dig in on these kids, and I 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:29.079 understand it's some information, but that's what the combines for 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:34.240 the combine is for to get information to answer questions. 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:37.680 It's for the medical. Now you've got Simmons, who we 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:41.200 will get into this defensive tackle from this, Well, he's 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:43.280 got he's in the new He's in the news for 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:46.280 another reason this week. Right, so he's got he's got 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:48.400 the off the field and plus now he's got a 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:51.240 knee injury he's dealing with. All Right, Well, I feel 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:53.120 I feel a couple of types of ways about this, 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:56.320 and you know it's We've had some healthy dis league. 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:58.240 No I'm not I'm not going to defend the league, 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:01.000 and I appreciate a few try I've seen some of 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:03.120 the arguing points. You know, Like I said, Dane's had 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:06.200 some healthy conversations about it recently. And in the case 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:09.600 of like, uh, you know, you know, Preston Williams or 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:12.720 Jeffrey Simmons, or even going back to like ty Tyreek 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:15.720 Hill where you've got or Joe Mixon where you've got 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:20.720 some legitimately you know, scummy skeletons in your closet. Sure, um, 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:24.160 I see what they're trying to do. You know, to 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:26.440 Dane's point, you could call it a pr stunt if 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:27.680 you want to, because at the end of the day, 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:30.040 you're hindering these teams all it is. Yeah, at the 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:33.559 end of the day, you're hindering these teams from learning 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:35.320 as much as they can about the players at the 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:38.440 same time. Again, and I'm I'm thinking about, you know, 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:44.040 like a Tyreek Hill type of situation. Maybe you know 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:46.680 you you deserve that to some degree, like maybe you 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:49.719 don't deserve the help. And I know you're hindering the team. 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:53.120 But are these kids gonna get drafted anyway? They are? 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:57.960 But how much easier would their draft process be if 0:04:58.000 --> 0:05:00.000 they if they could just go to the combine Exactly. 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:02.480 They're hurting the wrong people, and they're saying, you're hurting 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:05.640 your own team, hurting teams. You're hurting your teams. You know, 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:09.120 you talk about and these teams will spend massive amounts 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:12.320 of money flying around and seeing these kids. But the 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:15.800 Combine is going to give Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:19.720 and Jason Garrett the opportunity to visit with players face 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:24.040 to face. Jerry Jones, for all his faults as a 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:26.840 general manager, one of them is he doesn't get to 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:30.400 travel to see these players. I've worked for general managers 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:33.480 that have traveled and seen these players. They have an 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:38.560 opportunity to go to Mississippi State, to go to Louisiana Tech. 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:42.720 Why do you take the opportunity away? If these owners, 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:44.200 a lot of these owners are going to have to 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:46.760 make the call. Jeff Lurry told me he did not 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:49.760 want to draft Randy Moss. Yeah, that was a call 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:53.520 that Jeff Lurry made, and that was after much digging 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:57.840 in on Randy Moss. You know, I mean, these owners 0:05:57.960 --> 0:06:00.520 do make decisions. So you're these owners show up at 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:02.680 the combines, You're not going to give them an opportunity 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:04.720 to make a decision on these kids. Well, this also, 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:06.880 and I think we talked about this last week, is 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:09.880 it ties into the fact that the Combine has become 0:06:10.040 --> 0:06:13.200 something that it was probably never supposed to be. Yeah, 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:15.479 trust me, it's gonna be on ABC this year. Did 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:17.960 y'all see that there a couple hours? Specially it's gonna 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:21.640 be on network TV. Dudes sitting there in nineteen ninety two, 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:24.120 I never would have believed that dudes running the three 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:27.440 cone drill is going to be a prime time network 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:30.440 TV must see. God bless you folks, by the way, 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:32.760 I think that's part of it. BOT bottom line for me. 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:35.720 If you're going to allow teams to draft these players 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:39.040 and play these players and pay these players, let them 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:42.800 interview the players at the combine. The combines one big 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:46.760 job fair, no question. If you know, Google wants to 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:49.080 hire somebody, if they're gonna hire you know, if they're 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:52.480 open to hiring somebody with a sketchy background, but oh yeah, 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:54.480 you can't come to our job fair. We'll still hire you, 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:56.600 but you can't come to our job fair like It's 0:06:56.600 --> 0:07:00.320 just it's counterproductive what you're trying to do. If any thing, 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:02.400 these are the guys that should be at the combine. 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:05.120 So you figure out what the person they are more 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:08.800 about the situation, and all it does is Okay, there 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:12.040 might be a team that is trusting the film and say, 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:14.440 well we didn't get a chance to really vet him fully. 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:16.320 But we're gonna take a chance on the film. Maybe 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:18.400 you draft a bad guy, you know. It's just there's 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:21.760 so many more advantages for the teams to having these 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:25.960 guys there. This has nothing to do with privilege, and 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:29.440 that's what they're calling it. No, No, it's just it's 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:31.680 a pr stunt. It's they're just they don't want the 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:35.840 conversation during Combine week to be about what Simmons did 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:38.800 and what Jalen Ferguson did. That's that's all they're trying 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:41.200 to do. They're trying to avoid that. Yeah, if it 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:43.480 was a strict if it was strictly a job fair, 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:47.520 which that's the purpose, but it's not. If if that's 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:48.920 all it was, and I don't think this would be 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:51.600 a thing, but it is a nationally televised event. It 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:53.880 is one of the two biggest things that happens during 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:57.000 an NFL offseason, and the league doesn't want that conversation 0:07:57.080 --> 0:08:00.800 happening while they're trying to monopolize airtime in February. But again, 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:04.880 maybe I'm stupid, but the whole idea of the Combine 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:09.239 was the medicals, the information, the interviews, and the workout. 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:11.080 But when I when I said when, I mean, I 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:15.280 trust me. I was at the Combine in nineteen ninety 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:17.400 two when it when it wasn't when they were wearing 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:20.720 bad T shirts, and it wasn't all this. It was 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:23.280 just about time in forties. It was about running the 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:25.800 short show. It was about getting face to face with 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:28.360 a kid and telling you, telling him, telling me he 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:31.800 was an alcoholic. Ask any personnel guy in the league 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:34.240 right now and they'll they'll tell you like they'll say, 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:37.360 the combines not for us, not anymore. I'm embarrassed to 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:39.920 go to combine now. I'm embarrassed to see now that 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:42.000 I'm part of this media. And I've written this before. 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:46.360 It happened with the whole thing with with Mixon. I 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:48.800 can't even look at those friends of mine in the league. 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:52.040 The Tommy demitrofs to John Dorsey. John Dorsey told me, 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:54.160 he says, you know what, I'd really like to talk 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:56.960 to this mixing kid because of you. I can't. How 0:08:57.000 --> 0:08:59.559 do you think I felt about that? Well, that's clear. 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:01.760 You know, maybe I'm a terrible scout and all if 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:03.960 I buy that given what he did earlier this week, 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:06.520 well you know what though, did he did he draft? 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:08.599 Did he draft a hell of a player? Though? Is 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:10.199 that kid? Did that kid? Was it a hell of 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:12.720 a player? He's a pretty good player. He's also done 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:15.160 some shady stuff, you know what. I think there's a 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:17.280 lot of people, if you really dig in, they've done 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:20.079 shady stuff. And I'm not talking. I am not condoning 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:23.640 hitting women. I am not. That's not my But I'm 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:26.839 just saying, though, the idea of trying to get to 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:31.000 the bottom of why something happened, Yeah, right, is now 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:33.679 taken away from these teams. And the other layer to this, too, 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:37.440 is just the blanket if you have a violent incident 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:39.959 in your past, you're not coming Like jarn Ferguson is 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:42.719 a perfect example. Yeah got a fight and McDonald's five 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:46.360 years ago. And I want to circle back because, like 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:48.199 I said, I feel a lot of different ways about it. 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:50.520 I get y'all's point, and I agree with a lot 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:53.320 of it. I don't hate the idea of there being 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:57.800 some repercussions for doing terrible things, yea consequences, I don't. 0:09:57.920 --> 0:09:59.400 I don't hate that idea. I don't know if this 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:01.520 rule is the right way to go about it, but 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:04.960 I think there there could be a compromise where there's 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:06.719 got to be some way where you can what is 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:09.480 to compromise then, I don't know, Well what is before 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:11.439 we do that? I did like the Jalen Ferguson things 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:14.560 sounds stupid like that if it happened when he's eighteen, sure, 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:16.920 and you're punishing it for him, punishing him for it now, 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:19.160 I don't think I buy that. And I don't know 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:21.560 his whull whole history, so maybe I'm wrong, But I mean, 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:24.880 does he have a long list of problems he's been 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:28.640 in college? I mean mostly college stuff, you know, like 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:31.680 in underage there, you know, but it's like not nothing 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:34.360 that you know, You're glad there wasn't Twitter around when 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:37.240 I was playing football. Not Joe Mixon, is what you're saying, right, 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:40.839 And so the Jaalen Ferguson thing sounds really stupid. But 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:42.959 to me, the fact that they invited him in the 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:48.080 first place and then rescind yeah, see that that's where well, 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:50.760 but this is what bothers me is will we ever? 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:53.840 Will there ever be a solution for this? Well? There 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:56.840 ever be a solution for that? I have no problem, 0:10:57.080 --> 0:11:00.319 you know, consequences. I just don't think this is not 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:03.440 a rule. Is a consequence? Is Is there a way? 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:05.240 Is there a way to do that? And I'm like, 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:07.640 I'm spitball and spend player. I mean, I don't if 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:09.679 you have a violent pass, Okay, Jeffrey Simmons with what 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:11.880 happened to him, if he suspended for the first two 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:15.880 games of NFL career, Okay, whatever something you did in college, though, 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:19.040 I that's I'd rather see. That's the whole thing. It 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:22.679 goes back with Ezekiel Elliott. Yeah, you know this this 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:26.439 the United States government, the state of Ohio did not 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:31.319 find him in criminal any criminal problems. But NFL is 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:34.640 going to play judge and jury. Now, well these are 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:37.360 these are were these are? You have to take them 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:39.120 all in a case. But I'm just saying, Okay, the 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:42.480 NFL is the NFL right now playing a judge and jury. Yeah, 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:45.760 but yeah, they're trying to be the police everything that's happening. 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:48.640 But again it is not because they have some moral 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:52.280 high ground here. It's all a pr stunt. Yeah, they've 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:54.440 proven time and time again. Tired of it. They don't 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:57.160 actually care. Tired of it. It's not gonna this rule. 0:11:57.360 --> 0:11:59.880 I don't know they're thirty two NFL teams hate this 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:02.480 rule well, and they should, but I don't know if 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:04.920 it's going to change, just because again, the whole purpose 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:07.120 of the rule is so we're not talking about but hey, 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:09.480 we're filling you know, fifteen to twenty minutes of airtime 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:11.959 right now talking about it. But the whole purpose is 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:14.920 in two weeks when we're in Indianapolis, we're not spending 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:17.200 too much time talking about you know, you know why 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:20.520 we're spending fifteen minutes about it, Dane Burglar, because it's 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:24.559 our job, as our motto, is to investigate and educate. 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:28.679 We're trying to the disadvantage that we have, and the 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:32.600 only advantage we have, the only advantage is we get 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:36.120 to watch the tape. But when these players don't get 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:37.760 to show up and we don't get the question and 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:39.520 we don't get to hear their side of the story, 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:42.720 then we're at a disadvantage when we're trying to when 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:44.559 I'm when I'm trying to talk to the guy in 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:47.120 Atlanta who's thinking about drafting this guy, or I'm trying 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:49.280 to talk to the guy in Philadelphia that's trying drafting 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:52.320 this guy. You know, that's where I'm at a disadvantage 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:55.000 that I have the advantage of watching the tape. I think, 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:57.719 I think we all agree that this particular rule is 0:12:57.760 --> 0:13:00.680 pretty stupid. But I do, like I said, that, there's 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:02.360 got to be some sort of way where you can 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:05.160 accommodate both of these viewpoints. And I wonder, like, maybe 0:13:05.840 --> 0:13:09.240 I know it sounds terrifying and maybe not a fully 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:11.959 fleshed out idea, but you could all, like you know, 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:15.839 assess these guys cases and assign them suspensions, and I 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:17.720 and it could work the same way an injury does. 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:20.400 It's like, well, you can draft this guy, he won't 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:22.240 be available to you for the first twelve games of 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:24.400 his rookie year. How does that affect his draft stock? 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:27.439 I don't know is that really the right way. I 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:30.160 don't know. Think I'm like I said, I'm thinking out loud. No, No, 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:32.559 I appreciate you, I do. I'm sorry for but just 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:35.120 totally discussing. I'm not completely against that because I and 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:37.760 I'm all four guys who are have We're not talking 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:39.760 about an underage, we're not talking about weed. We're talking 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:42.079 about guys with violent pass if. They and you know, 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:46.880 it's almost like arbitration where you're going over each one specifically. 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:51.560 Understand has a kid in Seattle been okay that whole thing, 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:55.800 the defensive end, Frank Clark, Yeah, he's had some like missteps, 0:13:55.880 --> 0:13:59.720 but nothing like criminal. Yeah, okay, but that's some scene. 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:01.480 You can punish these kids for stuff they did in 0:14:01.600 --> 0:14:05.640 college as they come into the NFL, like particularly heinous. Yeah, 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:09.040 I mean if it's yeah, I wouldn't be okay, I understand. 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:12.800 I understand assault with a deadly weapon or I get 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:17.320 it hitting a woman, hitting a woman, get a girlfriend. Okay, 0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:19.960 Like when Jalen Fergusons and McDonald's and about to get 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:21.840 into a fight, he's not gonna think, oh, you know what, 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:23.280 one day, I might not be able to go to 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:25.800 the combine if I don't walk away right now. But 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:28.640 if they start doing these suspensions where Jeffrey Simmons has 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:30.760 suspended the first four games of his rookie year of 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:33.840 his NFL career, then maybe that is something that starts 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:36.840 to creep into these top recruits and things, Hey, you 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:39.600 know what, this this is gonna follow me the rest 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:41.840 of my career. I need to walk away. If there's 0:14:41.880 --> 0:14:45.960 more consequences, it might make these kids thinks have second 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:48.840 thoughts about it. There's gotta be a way to accommodate 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:52.680 the fact that this shouldn't be tolerated. But I don't 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:56.600 think that this bs PR rule is the answer. That's 0:14:56.640 --> 0:14:58.880 basically okay, okay. If if you guys come up with 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:01.480 a good plan, I'm list then, but that's what it's 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:03.840 all about. But I don't have this is not a plan. 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:08.800 The combine again is it's it's responsibility as the medical 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:10.600 and the and the interview we I think we all 0:15:10.600 --> 0:15:13.280 agree on that. Yeah, okay, And that's again that's my point. 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:16.600 And again I'm sorry, I'm just going on and on 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:19.520 about this, but I feel now being on the media 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:21.800 side again, I feel here's my time of year where 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:25.080 I feel responsible for not letting John Dorsey and Will 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:29.280 McClay and John Snyder and and Tommy Demitrof and those 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:31.920 guys evaluate players. Ran. Do you think this has anything 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:33.720 to do with the fact that they are making this 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:37.040 a national event now and it's on television. Of course 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:38.920 it is, and of course it is they have to 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:41.360 put these guys on. I guess if if they're invited, 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:44.640 you know, and they don't want that, like Dames PR thing. 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:47.240 Are there far more better stories coming out of the 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:49.880 combine than the bad ones? Always? Of course, I mean, 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:52.760 I mean that's what I'm saying. We're there for, We're 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:54.440 there for the majority of the thing. We're I think 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:57.600 we're talking about positive things that happen. You guys that 0:15:57.760 --> 0:16:00.280 have bad workouts were like, hey, he's got a they 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:03.120 coming up March second, probably do better than there's three 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:05.600 hundred and thirty eight of them, and like maybe I 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:09.560 don't know, twenty or thirty have like serious character concerns. 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:11.960 So yeah, I mean, you know what you should do 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:14.200 with the character concern guys is don't let them work out, 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:16.560 but let him interview and let them do the medicals 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:18.320 and that seems talk to them, but don't let them 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:21.800 get the primetime national TV workout. And that's something I 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:23.960 think is a bad idea worth talking about. But again, 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:26.520 they don't want those guys there, so you know, out 0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:28.040 of sight, out of mind, you know, so we're not 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:30.320 talking about it and dwelling on it. It all comes 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:33.880 back to protect the shield. It's it's typical done a 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:39.640 they it's uh, you know, the what what not to 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:42.160 do playbook, And when it comes to PR is thefl 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:45.040 for being the most popular sport in America. It is 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:48.320 run the worst of any of them in my opinion, Yeah, 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:51.200 just mine. I just wish that these guys and I 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:54.400 wish they had the opportunity to do their jobs. These 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:57.760 guys livelihood depends on these interviews at the end of 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:00.400 the day and again for the fifteenth time, I know, 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:03.160 I all agree that it's I know, but you're right. 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:05.440 If John Dorsey wants to fuel up the G six 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:07.760 to go down to and he will, he will, he will, 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:11.040 he'll absolute he'll absolutely feel any you know, people talk about, oh, 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:13.280 just go to the pro day. What happens when Missisippi 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:15.040 State and Alabama have the pro day on the same day, 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:17.200 you know, because we we all pro days are within 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:19.960 you know about us. They tried four week they tried it, 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:22.960 Yeah they try, but well a four weeks span you 0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:25.840 can only to be fair, you only you only get 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:28.000 thirty guys that can come to your facility. Yeah, but 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:30.760 you can go wherever the hell you want, whenever you want. Right, 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:32.960 But okay, but how about the situation though with the 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:35.920 tip with the guys with Simmons with the knee Ferguson, 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:38.440 now with how many how many people are gonna want 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:42.280 the medical information on that guy on those kids? You can't. 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:45.119 You can't. That's on that's on them to get it 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:48.000 out there then, isn't it. But you want your doctor 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:50.159 looking at these kids if you're gonna draft. I mean, 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:52.640 the reason why you drafted Jalen Smith is because doctor 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:55.239 Cooper did the surgery. If doctor James Andrews comes out 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:58.240 and says, oh, yeah, you know Simmons his knees progressing well, 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:01.040 responded well from surgery, it's great. But yeah, again, you 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:03.320 want your doctor and your training staff looking at these 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:05.840 and I hear you. That's that's that's the number one 0:18:05.880 --> 0:18:09.040 problem right there. All right, Sorry about that, folks. I 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:11.760 just you were hot. No, I'm upset again because it 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:14.520 makes a thousand on my head. Is disrespect. No, it 0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:17.359 reminds me of what what the combine to me was 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:20.520 always about. You know, before there was TV and and 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:22.760 and trust me, I'm glad you folks get to see 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:25.040 what goes on with the combine. This ain't this ain't 0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:27.280 your uncle Brian's combine. No, it's not. And im and 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:29.480 I'm not trying to be get off my lawn guy, 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:32.200 I'm just telling you though, that I feel bad for 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:34.760 my guys that they're trying to do their jobs and 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:37.359 they can't because of me now being in the media. 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:41.600 That's why, that's where I'm I hear you. I'm feeling bad. 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