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Speaker 1: us well, Welcome to another week of the Draft Show
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Speaker 1: days to kind of, you know, after you have a
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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about it today because Brian Bross is
Speaker 1: a little hot. We just you just refer to yourself
Speaker 1: in the third person, so you must be, yeah, a
Speaker 1: little hot right now? All right, what's on your mind? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm getting tired of the league telling me who I
Speaker 1: can look at and who I can't look at. You know,
Speaker 1: it's this combine those folks that work off Park Avenue
Speaker 1: up there in New York. I think that, sir, address
Speaker 1: still least to be a four or five park, I
Speaker 1: think is what it was. They they know the train
Speaker 1: schedule to Connecticut. Trust me, they don't know what goes
Speaker 1: on on these teams at a club level, especially scouting
Speaker 1: at a club level. Don't tell me what players I
Speaker 1: can and cannot look at. And for those of you
Speaker 1: not following Brian, somebody fill them in. I'm hot to
Speaker 1: the league. Well, we knew that Jeffrey Simmons and Preston
Speaker 1: Williams would not be invited to combine, but the league
Speaker 1: receives the way to really, really, really good football players.
Speaker 1: League rescinded its invitation to Louisiana Tech defensive end Jalen
Speaker 1: Ferguson yesterday, prompting a whole new line of conversation because
Speaker 1: they did invite him. And so I've been I've been
Speaker 1: outsick for most of the week. So Ketch, welcome back, though,
Speaker 1: wisdom teeth if I'm not up to speed on my details.
Speaker 1: They found out about some violent altercations in his past.
Speaker 1: He got into a fight at McDonald's. But it's in
Speaker 1: it's like years when he was eighteen years old. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: eighteen years Like if it had happened between the end
Speaker 1: of the season and now, I think that's a different kind.
Speaker 1: If I ran for president right now something, I'd have
Speaker 1: no chance. Oh god, they would dig it. They would
Speaker 1: dig up so much stuff that's in you know, you
Speaker 1: would be on your fourth handle by like the first week.
Speaker 1: I'm the guy that wants to pay the players. Rumor
Speaker 1: that so they so he did this when he was eighteen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm tired of the league. I tired. We've had this
Speaker 1: conversation and and I know, you know Dane, Dane was
Speaker 1: talking about it on Twitter. Guess Joe Mixon. We had
Speaker 1: this conversation about Joe Mixon. I thought this was going
Speaker 1: to kind of go away. Guys. I mean, I understand
Speaker 1: you have to dig in on these kids, and I
Speaker 1: understand it's some information, but that's what the combines for
Speaker 1: the combine is for to get information to answer questions.
Speaker 1: It's for the medical. Now you've got Simmons, who we
Speaker 1: will get into this defensive tackle from this, Well, he's
Speaker 1: got he's in the new He's in the news for
Speaker 1: another reason this week. Right, so he's got he's got
Speaker 1: the off the field and plus now he's got a
Speaker 1: knee injury he's dealing with. All Right, Well, I feel
Speaker 1: I feel a couple of types of ways about this,
Speaker 1: and you know it's We've had some healthy dis league.
Speaker 1: No I'm not I'm not going to defend the league,
Speaker 1: and I appreciate a few try I've seen some of
Speaker 1: the arguing points. You know, Like I said, Dane's had
Speaker 1: some healthy conversations about it recently. And in the case
Speaker 1: of like, uh, you know, you know, Preston Williams or
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Simmons, or even going back to like ty Tyreek
Speaker 1: Hill where you've got or Joe Mixon where you've got
Speaker 1: some legitimately you know, scummy skeletons in your closet. Sure, um,
Speaker 1: I see what they're trying to do. You know, to
Speaker 1: Dane's point, you could call it a pr stunt if
Speaker 1: you want to, because at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: you're hindering these teams all it is. Yeah, at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, you're hindering these teams from learning
Speaker 1: as much as they can about the players at the
Speaker 1: same time. Again, and I'm I'm thinking about, you know,
Speaker 1: like a Tyreek Hill type of situation. Maybe you know
Speaker 1: you you deserve that to some degree, like maybe you
Speaker 1: don't deserve the help. And I know you're hindering the team.
Speaker 1: But are these kids gonna get drafted anyway? They are?
Speaker 1: But how much easier would their draft process be if
Speaker 1: they if they could just go to the combine Exactly.
Speaker 1: They're hurting the wrong people, and they're saying, you're hurting
Speaker 1: your own team, hurting teams. You're hurting your teams. You know,
Speaker 1: you talk about and these teams will spend massive amounts
Speaker 1: of money flying around and seeing these kids. But the
Speaker 1: Combine is going to give Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones
Speaker 1: and Jason Garrett the opportunity to visit with players face
Speaker 1: to face. Jerry Jones, for all his faults as a
Speaker 1: general manager, one of them is he doesn't get to
Speaker 1: travel to see these players. I've worked for general managers
Speaker 1: that have traveled and seen these players. They have an
Speaker 1: opportunity to go to Mississippi State, to go to Louisiana Tech.
Speaker 1: Why do you take the opportunity away? If these owners,
Speaker 1: a lot of these owners are going to have to
Speaker 1: make the call. Jeff Lurry told me he did not
Speaker 1: want to draft Randy Moss. Yeah, that was a call
Speaker 1: that Jeff Lurry made, and that was after much digging
Speaker 1: in on Randy Moss. You know, I mean, these owners
Speaker 1: do make decisions. So you're these owners show up at
Speaker 1: the combines, You're not going to give them an opportunity
Speaker 1: to make a decision on these kids. Well, this also,
Speaker 1: and I think we talked about this last week, is
Speaker 1: it ties into the fact that the Combine has become
Speaker 1: something that it was probably never supposed to be. Yeah,
Speaker 1: trust me, it's gonna be on ABC this year. Did
Speaker 1: y'all see that there a couple hours? Specially it's gonna
Speaker 1: be on network TV. Dudes sitting there in nineteen ninety two,
Speaker 1: I never would have believed that dudes running the three
Speaker 1: cone drill is going to be a prime time network
Speaker 1: TV must see. God bless you folks, by the way,
Speaker 1: I think that's part of it. BOT bottom line for me.
Speaker 1: If you're going to allow teams to draft these players
Speaker 1: and play these players and pay these players, let them
Speaker 1: interview the players at the combine. The combines one big
Speaker 1: job fair, no question. If you know, Google wants to
Speaker 1: hire somebody, if they're gonna hire you know, if they're
Speaker 1: open to hiring somebody with a sketchy background, but oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't come to our job fair. We'll still hire you,
Speaker 1: but you can't come to our job fair like It's
Speaker 1: just it's counterproductive what you're trying to do. If any thing,
Speaker 1: these are the guys that should be at the combine.
Speaker 1: So you figure out what the person they are more
Speaker 1: about the situation, and all it does is Okay, there
Speaker 1: might be a team that is trusting the film and say,
Speaker 1: well we didn't get a chance to really vet him fully.
Speaker 1: But we're gonna take a chance on the film. Maybe
Speaker 1: you draft a bad guy, you know. It's just there's
Speaker 1: so many more advantages for the teams to having these
Speaker 1: guys there. This has nothing to do with privilege, and
Speaker 1: that's what they're calling it. No, No, it's just it's
Speaker 1: a pr stunt. It's they're just they don't want the
Speaker 1: conversation during Combine week to be about what Simmons did
Speaker 1: and what Jalen Ferguson did. That's that's all they're trying
Speaker 1: to do. They're trying to avoid that. Yeah, if it
Speaker 1: was a strict if it was strictly a job fair,
Speaker 1: which that's the purpose, but it's not. If if that's
Speaker 1: all it was, and I don't think this would be
Speaker 1: a thing, but it is a nationally televised event. It
Speaker 1: is one of the two biggest things that happens during
Speaker 1: an NFL offseason, and the league doesn't want that conversation
Speaker 1: happening while they're trying to monopolize airtime in February. But again,
Speaker 1: maybe I'm stupid, but the whole idea of the Combine
Speaker 1: was the medicals, the information, the interviews, and the workout.
Speaker 1: But when I when I said when, I mean, I
Speaker 1: trust me. I was at the Combine in nineteen ninety
Speaker 1: two when it when it wasn't when they were wearing
Speaker 1: bad T shirts, and it wasn't all this. It was
Speaker 1: just about time in forties. It was about running the
Speaker 1: short show. It was about getting face to face with
Speaker 1: a kid and telling you, telling him, telling me he
Speaker 1: was an alcoholic. Ask any personnel guy in the league
Speaker 1: right now and they'll they'll tell you like they'll say,
Speaker 1: the combines not for us, not anymore. I'm embarrassed to
Speaker 1: go to combine now. I'm embarrassed to see now that
Speaker 1: I'm part of this media. And I've written this before.
Speaker 1: It happened with the whole thing with with Mixon. I
Speaker 1: can't even look at those friends of mine in the league.
Speaker 1: The Tommy demitrofs to John Dorsey. John Dorsey told me,
Speaker 1: he says, you know what, I'd really like to talk
Speaker 1: to this mixing kid because of you. I can't. How
Speaker 1: do you think I felt about that? Well, that's clear.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe I'm a terrible scout and all if
Speaker 1: I buy that given what he did earlier this week,
Speaker 1: well you know what though, did he did he draft?
Speaker 1: Did he draft a hell of a player? Though? Is
Speaker 1: that kid? Did that kid? Was it a hell of
Speaker 1: a player? He's a pretty good player. He's also done
Speaker 1: some shady stuff, you know what. I think there's a
Speaker 1: lot of people, if you really dig in, they've done
Speaker 1: shady stuff. And I'm not talking. I am not condoning
Speaker 1: hitting women. I am not. That's not my But I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, though, the idea of trying to get to
Speaker 1: the bottom of why something happened, Yeah, right, is now
Speaker 1: taken away from these teams. And the other layer to this, too,
Speaker 1: is just the blanket if you have a violent incident
Speaker 1: in your past, you're not coming Like jarn Ferguson is
Speaker 1: a perfect example. Yeah got a fight and McDonald's five
Speaker 1: years ago. And I want to circle back because, like
Speaker 1: I said, I feel a lot of different ways about it.
Speaker 1: I get y'all's point, and I agree with a lot
Speaker 1: of it. I don't hate the idea of there being
Speaker 1: some repercussions for doing terrible things, yea consequences, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't hate that idea. I don't know if this
Speaker 1: rule is the right way to go about it, but
Speaker 1: I think there there could be a compromise where there's
Speaker 1: got to be some way where you can what is
Speaker 1: to compromise then, I don't know, Well what is before
Speaker 1: we do that? I did like the Jalen Ferguson things
Speaker 1: sounds stupid like that if it happened when he's eighteen, sure,
Speaker 1: and you're punishing it for him, punishing him for it now,
Speaker 1: I don't think I buy that. And I don't know
Speaker 1: his whull whole history, so maybe I'm wrong, But I mean,
Speaker 1: does he have a long list of problems he's been
Speaker 1: in college? I mean mostly college stuff, you know, like
Speaker 1: in underage there, you know, but it's like not nothing
Speaker 1: that you know, You're glad there wasn't Twitter around when
Speaker 1: I was playing football. Not Joe Mixon, is what you're saying, right,
Speaker 1: And so the Jaalen Ferguson thing sounds really stupid. But
Speaker 1: to me, the fact that they invited him in the
Speaker 1: first place and then rescind yeah, see that that's where well,
Speaker 1: but this is what bothers me is will we ever?
Speaker 1: Will there ever be a solution for this? Well? There
Speaker 1: ever be a solution for that? I have no problem,
Speaker 1: you know, consequences. I just don't think this is not
Speaker 1: a rule. Is a consequence? Is Is there a way?
Speaker 1: Is there a way to do that? And I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm spitball and spend player. I mean, I don't if
Speaker 1: you have a violent pass, Okay, Jeffrey Simmons with what
Speaker 1: happened to him, if he suspended for the first two
Speaker 1: games of NFL career, Okay, whatever something you did in college, though,
Speaker 1: I that's I'd rather see. That's the whole thing. It
Speaker 1: goes back with Ezekiel Elliott. Yeah, you know this this
Speaker 1: the United States government, the state of Ohio did not
Speaker 1: find him in criminal any criminal problems. But NFL is
Speaker 1: going to play judge and jury. Now, well these are
Speaker 1: these are were these are? You have to take them
Speaker 1: all in a case. But I'm just saying, Okay, the
Speaker 1: NFL is the NFL right now playing a judge and jury. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, they're trying to be the police everything that's happening.
Speaker 1: But again it is not because they have some moral
Speaker 1: high ground here. It's all a pr stunt. Yeah, they've
Speaker 1: proven time and time again. Tired of it. They don't
Speaker 1: actually care. Tired of it. It's not gonna this rule.
Speaker 1: I don't know they're thirty two NFL teams hate this
Speaker 1: rule well, and they should, but I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's going to change, just because again, the whole purpose
Speaker 1: of the rule is so we're not talking about but hey,
Speaker 1: we're filling you know, fifteen to twenty minutes of airtime
Speaker 1: right now talking about it. But the whole purpose is
Speaker 1: in two weeks when we're in Indianapolis, we're not spending
Speaker 1: too much time talking about you know, you know why
Speaker 1: we're spending fifteen minutes about it, Dane Burglar, because it's
Speaker 1: our job, as our motto, is to investigate and educate.
Speaker 1: We're trying to the disadvantage that we have, and the
Speaker 1: only advantage we have, the only advantage is we get
Speaker 1: to watch the tape. But when these players don't get
Speaker 1: to show up and we don't get the question and
Speaker 1: we don't get to hear their side of the story,
Speaker 1: then we're at a disadvantage when we're trying to when
Speaker 1: I'm when I'm trying to talk to the guy in
Speaker 1: Atlanta who's thinking about drafting this guy, or I'm trying
Speaker 1: to talk to the guy in Philadelphia that's trying drafting
Speaker 1: this guy. You know, that's where I'm at a disadvantage
Speaker 1: that I have the advantage of watching the tape. I think,
Speaker 1: I think we all agree that this particular rule is
Speaker 1: pretty stupid. But I do, like I said, that, there's
Speaker 1: got to be some sort of way where you can
Speaker 1: accommodate both of these viewpoints. And I wonder, like, maybe
Speaker 1: I know it sounds terrifying and maybe not a fully
Speaker 1: fleshed out idea, but you could all, like you know,
Speaker 1: assess these guys cases and assign them suspensions, and I
Speaker 1: and it could work the same way an injury does.
Speaker 1: It's like, well, you can draft this guy, he won't
Speaker 1: be available to you for the first twelve games of
Speaker 1: his rookie year. How does that affect his draft stock?
Speaker 1: I don't know is that really the right way. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Think I'm like I said, I'm thinking out loud. No, No,
Speaker 1: I appreciate you, I do. I'm sorry for but just
Speaker 1: totally discussing. I'm not completely against that because I and
Speaker 1: I'm all four guys who are have We're not talking
Speaker 1: about an underage, we're not talking about weed. We're talking
Speaker 1: about guys with violent pass if. They and you know,
Speaker 1: it's almost like arbitration where you're going over each one specifically.
Speaker 1: Understand has a kid in Seattle been okay that whole thing,
Speaker 1: the defensive end, Frank Clark, Yeah, he's had some like missteps,
Speaker 1: but nothing like criminal. Yeah, okay, but that's some scene.
Speaker 1: You can punish these kids for stuff they did in
Speaker 1: college as they come into the NFL, like particularly heinous. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean if it's yeah, I wouldn't be okay, I understand.
Speaker 1: I understand assault with a deadly weapon or I get
Speaker 1: it hitting a woman, hitting a woman, get a girlfriend. Okay,
Speaker 1: Like when Jalen Fergusons and McDonald's and about to get
Speaker 1: into a fight, he's not gonna think, oh, you know what,
Speaker 1: one day, I might not be able to go to
Speaker 1: the combine if I don't walk away right now. But
Speaker 1: if they start doing these suspensions where Jeffrey Simmons has
Speaker 1: suspended the first four games of his rookie year of
Speaker 1: his NFL career, then maybe that is something that starts
Speaker 1: to creep into these top recruits and things, Hey, you
Speaker 1: know what, this this is gonna follow me the rest
Speaker 1: of my career. I need to walk away. If there's
Speaker 1: more consequences, it might make these kids thinks have second
Speaker 1: thoughts about it. There's gotta be a way to accommodate
Speaker 1: the fact that this shouldn't be tolerated. But I don't
Speaker 1: think that this bs PR rule is the answer. That's
Speaker 1: basically okay, okay. If if you guys come up with
Speaker 1: a good plan, I'm list then, but that's what it's
Speaker 1: all about. But I don't have this is not a plan.
Speaker 1: The combine again is it's it's responsibility as the medical
Speaker 1: and the and the interview we I think we all
Speaker 1: agree on that. Yeah, okay, And that's again that's my point.
Speaker 1: And again I'm sorry, I'm just going on and on
Speaker 1: about this, but I feel now being on the media
Speaker 1: side again, I feel here's my time of year where
Speaker 1: I feel responsible for not letting John Dorsey and Will
Speaker 1: McClay and John Snyder and and Tommy Demitrof and those
Speaker 1: guys evaluate players. Ran. Do you think this has anything
Speaker 1: to do with the fact that they are making this
Speaker 1: a national event now and it's on television. Of course
Speaker 1: it is, and of course it is they have to
Speaker 1: put these guys on. I guess if if they're invited,
Speaker 1: you know, and they don't want that, like Dames PR thing.
Speaker 1: Are there far more better stories coming out of the
Speaker 1: combine than the bad ones? Always? Of course, I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean that's what I'm saying. We're there for, We're
Speaker 1: there for the majority of the thing. We're I think
Speaker 1: we're talking about positive things that happen. You guys that
Speaker 1: have bad workouts were like, hey, he's got a they
Speaker 1: coming up March second, probably do better than there's three
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty eight of them, and like maybe I
Speaker 1: don't know, twenty or thirty have like serious character concerns.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, you know what you should do
Speaker 1: with the character concern guys is don't let them work out,
Speaker 1: but let him interview and let them do the medicals
Speaker 1: and that seems talk to them, but don't let them
Speaker 1: get the primetime national TV workout. And that's something I
Speaker 1: think is a bad idea worth talking about. But again,
Speaker 1: they don't want those guys there, so you know, out
Speaker 1: of sight, out of mind, you know, so we're not
Speaker 1: talking about it and dwelling on it. It all comes
Speaker 1: back to protect the shield. It's it's typical done a
Speaker 1: they it's uh, you know, the what what not to
Speaker 1: do playbook, And when it comes to PR is thefl
Speaker 1: for being the most popular sport in America. It is
Speaker 1: run the worst of any of them in my opinion, Yeah,
Speaker 1: just mine. I just wish that these guys and I
Speaker 1: wish they had the opportunity to do their jobs. These
Speaker 1: guys livelihood depends on these interviews at the end of
Speaker 1: the day and again for the fifteenth time, I know,
Speaker 1: I all agree that it's I know, but you're right.
Speaker 1: If John Dorsey wants to fuel up the G six
Speaker 1: to go down to and he will, he will, he will,
Speaker 1: he'll absolute he'll absolutely feel any you know, people talk about, oh,
Speaker 1: just go to the pro day. What happens when Missisippi
Speaker 1: State and Alabama have the pro day on the same day,
Speaker 1: you know, because we we all pro days are within
Speaker 1: you know about us. They tried four week they tried it,
Speaker 1: Yeah they try, but well a four weeks span you
Speaker 1: can only to be fair, you only you only get
Speaker 1: thirty guys that can come to your facility. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you can go wherever the hell you want, whenever you want. Right,
Speaker 1: But okay, but how about the situation though with the
Speaker 1: tip with the guys with Simmons with the knee Ferguson,
Speaker 1: now with how many how many people are gonna want
Speaker 1: the medical information on that guy on those kids? You can't.
Speaker 1: You can't. That's on that's on them to get it
Speaker 1: out there then, isn't it. But you want your doctor
Speaker 1: looking at these kids if you're gonna draft. I mean,
Speaker 1: the reason why you drafted Jalen Smith is because doctor
Speaker 1: Cooper did the surgery. If doctor James Andrews comes out
Speaker 1: and says, oh, yeah, you know Simmons his knees progressing well,
Speaker 1: responded well from surgery, it's great. But yeah, again, you
Speaker 1: want your doctor and your training staff looking at these
Speaker 1: and I hear you. That's that's that's the number one
Speaker 1: problem right there. All right, Sorry about that, folks. I
Speaker 1: just you were hot. No, I'm upset again because it
Speaker 1: makes a thousand on my head. Is disrespect. No, it
Speaker 1: reminds me of what what the combine to me was
Speaker 1: always about. You know, before there was TV and and
Speaker 1: and trust me, I'm glad you folks get to see
Speaker 1: what goes on with the combine. This ain't this ain't
Speaker 1: your uncle Brian's combine. No, it's not. And im and
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be get off my lawn guy,
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you though, that I feel bad for
Speaker 1: my guys that they're trying to do their jobs and
Speaker 1: they can't because of me now being in the media.
Speaker 1: That's why, that's where I'm I hear you. I'm feeling bad. Okay,
Speaker 1: when we come back, we're gonna talk some football here.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get into a little Twitter on the twenty
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Speaker 1: what kind of drives us to look at these players
Speaker 1: and to be able to talk about him because we
Speaker 1: get the opportunity. Again, we don't discriminate. If you're a
Speaker 1: fan of another team, we'll give you a lot of names.
Speaker 1: You know, we probably won't get into all your team
Speaker 1: needs and stuff. But as the draft goes along, if
Speaker 1: you follow along with us, we get to the end
Speaker 1: and we do the three days of draft coverage, we
Speaker 1: will talk about team and team needs and who you
Speaker 1: picked and stuff like that, and you'll be better for
Speaker 1: it because you'll know these names and I know in
Speaker 1: these names. It also means we do something called twitter
Speaker 1: on the Twitter, David Hillman, I'll let you have this
Speaker 1: show now. Yeah, Jay must have heard Dane talking about
Speaker 1: the number of cornerbacks the Cowboys have in contract years
Speaker 1: because he wants some mid tier corner names. Speaking of names,
Speaker 1: just like you know Day three or round three, round four,
Speaker 1: you know late day two, early day three cornerbacks. A
Speaker 1: late three guy that I like, Justin Lane from Michigan State. Yeah,
Speaker 1: good player. Former wide receiver made the switched over to corner.
Speaker 1: A little leggie, plays on his heels at times, but
Speaker 1: he moves well, good speed, love his ball skills. As
Speaker 1: a former wide receiver, you would expect him to have,
Speaker 1: you know, top shelf ball skills and he does absolutely
Speaker 1: And I think he's his instincts took a big jump
Speaker 1: this year. I think he's continuing to get better and better.
Speaker 1: So I think Justin Lane from Michigan State is a
Speaker 1: name to keep on the radar. If we're talking, I'm
Speaker 1: a great a little bit higher, but if he's there
Speaker 1: in the late third, he would make sense. Where do
Speaker 1: you have Julian Love a little bit higher? Julian Love
Speaker 1: out Dame. Yeah, I've going back and forth on him
Speaker 1: because he doesn't have elite size and he doesn't have
Speaker 1: elite speed, but I love his feet and he just
Speaker 1: has a knack for being in the right place right time.
Speaker 1: Now you see that lack of size show up to
Speaker 1: watch a Stanford game Antar Sega Whiteside, so you see
Speaker 1: the lack of length like a size show up. But
Speaker 1: that bullyed a little bit. Yeah, but I think you could.
Speaker 1: I mean I think as a nickel especially um, I
Speaker 1: have a solid two on him. So he wasn't a
Speaker 1: two three, he was more of a solid yeah, more
Speaker 1: of a solid two. Yeah. I'm a fan of his.
Speaker 1: Just see, I have been more than as a third
Speaker 1: is what I have. And I'll tell you about this kid.
Speaker 1: He's one of these guys who travels with whoever the
Speaker 1: best receiver is. Yeah, and that's and he's not afraid
Speaker 1: to play. And but Dane's right about him though, and
Speaker 1: but about his you know, the ability he has. He
Speaker 1: got again, like I said, got buoyed in the air
Speaker 1: a little bit on the fade. And I think that
Speaker 1: has to do with his size. But this guy reacts
Speaker 1: really quickly. He's got that lateral slide to him. He
Speaker 1: has a feel how to play with those offhand and stuff.
Speaker 1: So I kind of got him more in the third round,
Speaker 1: probably because of the lack of height. He's right now
Speaker 1: five ten one ninety one. I think I'm carrying him
Speaker 1: at you know, so doesn't sound like a Chris ras
Speaker 1: Shard guy. Well, you know, but then again, when you
Speaker 1: talk about guys that play, you know, long arm, guys
Speaker 1: that play with the offhand and stuff. We saw, you know,
Speaker 1: those the kinds of guys that talk about But you're
Speaker 1: you're not discourage. You're not discourage. You're not wrong. If
Speaker 1: we're talking with the long armed guys, then that's the
Speaker 1: Isaiah Johnson from Houston. Yeah, there, Donnie Johnson from Kentucky,
Speaker 1: the Penn State kid. Yeah. I think you know, we'll
Speaker 1: see how some of these guys might get pushed up
Speaker 1: because they play corner and they have the length, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the height, length, speed. But if they're there in a
Speaker 1: late third, they would make some sounse I'll answer. I'll
Speaker 1: answer one from Reuben Isaiah Johnson. I kind of liked
Speaker 1: him too. Uh, we get this, we get this a lot.
Speaker 1: I wish I had a date for you. I says,
Speaker 1: did the Cowboys have any compensatory picks? I'm certain that
Speaker 1: they will get at least one there the fourth round.
Speaker 1: They're due a fourth from Anthony Hitchens. I know people
Speaker 1: in the front office are at least optimistic that they'll
Speaker 1: also get a sixth. Don't ask me like the formula
Speaker 1: is so bizarre. It's a you know, incoming contracts, outgoing contracts.
Speaker 1: How much did you pay, how much did they pay?
Speaker 1: How much did they play during the season. I don't
Speaker 1: remember the particulars of it, but the fact that they
Speaker 1: released Deonte Thompson before the fourth back, Yeah, so they
Speaker 1: should are they at least have a chance to get
Speaker 1: a sixth. So they have five picks right now, there's
Speaker 1: at least a decent chance they will certainly get a
Speaker 1: fourth for Hitchens and then they might get another one.
Speaker 1: Kind of did have as many as seven picks, kind
Speaker 1: of in an interesting spot, sitting at the bottom of
Speaker 1: the draft, you know, of each round. Yeah, when you're
Speaker 1: sitting down there, though, somebody maybe from the top of
Speaker 1: the next round want to come visit you. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: that's kind of maybe there's a player that they do
Speaker 1: not want to get out of the round. So if
Speaker 1: you're interested in maybe moving back a few spots, so
Speaker 1: you take that fifty eight move back, maybe you could
Speaker 1: pick up some extra stuff along the way. But sitting
Speaker 1: at the bottom of the draft is not a bad
Speaker 1: thing if you're looking to add picks, because people from
Speaker 1: the top of the draft want to get back in.
Speaker 1: Like I said, the league has a date for everything
Speaker 1: that happens, except for that they I don't know when
Speaker 1: they're going to announce the compis that usually does it
Speaker 1: happen while we're at the combine or he used to
Speaker 1: happen at the owner's meetings, but then they start last
Speaker 1: week they surprises and did it a couple weeks earlier,
Speaker 1: so sometime in March if I had early March would
Speaker 1: be my guess. All right, we touched on this in
Speaker 1: the first segment. How important is the Cowboy? How important
Speaker 1: is pick fifty eight to this roster in twenty nineteen?
Speaker 1: Meaning if Jeffrey Simmons acl injury pushes him down toward
Speaker 1: fifty eight, do you pull a Jerry Special and grab
Speaker 1: him or nah? Not playing at all? Right, Dane too
Speaker 1: nineteen doesn't seem like you wouldn't think so. I mean
Speaker 1: you wouldn't want to push him, you know, I mean
Speaker 1: where do you think? Okay? First of all, his draft
Speaker 1: evaluation and projection was difficult to begin with because of
Speaker 1: the baggage um. And you know it's it's funny because
Speaker 1: you talk to people film stop twelve right, film top
Speaker 1: six stop seven. Thing I was being nice, thank you
Speaker 1: good last week when you were you and I were talking.
Speaker 1: The one thing that I came away with the draft
Speaker 1: show is that from last week was Williams is clearly
Speaker 1: your top. William Wims from Alabama's clearly you're your top guy,
Speaker 1: but the gap between him and Simmons Mississippi State is
Speaker 1: not as fast as fair. Yeah. Yeah, I think there's
Speaker 1: I think Nick Boson and Quinn and Williams are two
Speaker 1: best players in this draft and then there's a there's
Speaker 1: a gap. But Simmons is in on that second tier,
Speaker 1: right right, Yeah, so I think we agree there. But
Speaker 1: you know, because of what happened when he was in March,
Speaker 1: right after he signed to Missisippi State, before he even
Speaker 1: you know, went on the campus. Yeah, that's what people
Speaker 1: on periscoper tell me. This wasn't even this didn't happen
Speaker 1: at college. No, it happened, you know. I mean he
Speaker 1: technically wasn't even enrolled. So you know, it's something that
Speaker 1: is arian over there's video of it, and if there's videos, yah,
Speaker 1: see that's baggage. Sometimes you have to take those things
Speaker 1: into account. Prom Well, I'm I'm you know, so we'll see.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not trying to be mean here. He
Speaker 1: I feel really strongly he would have been a top
Speaker 1: twenty pick. Now, he could have been as high as
Speaker 1: top seven or eight, or it could have slipped to
Speaker 1: the teens who knows now with the ACL my early
Speaker 1: guest as he goes somewhere between twenty five and fifty,
Speaker 1: that's my early game. See I've talked, so you still
Speaker 1: are in a situation where you're probably having to trade
Speaker 1: up to get a guy who's not going to play.
Speaker 1: I've talked to I've talked to several scouts around the
Speaker 1: league about this, and I said, can this guy get
Speaker 1: to the Cowboys? And they, to a man, we're saying no,
Speaker 1: I don't, no way. I like what you're saying, because
Speaker 1: fifties fifties close. Yeah, I'm gonna scout to think scouts
Speaker 1: seem to think twenty five to more like forty five.
Speaker 1: That's kind of where that that range. I'm gonna steal
Speaker 1: up the point right off of Dane's twitter. I think
Speaker 1: you were the one that made it is Sidney Jones
Speaker 1: is not as good as a player as Jeffrey Simmons,
Speaker 1: not at all, and he went forty four with its achilles. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so really, I mean achilles are looking at it,
Speaker 1: that's the worst injury than At Dane's point, I just said,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, because Sidney Jones was looked at as a
Speaker 1: guy that's possible first rounder, top twenty pick possibly, and
Speaker 1: you know he had the achilles at his pro day,
Speaker 1: and yeah, I still went I think forty three to
Speaker 1: the to the Eagles. So and there's been some mixed
Speaker 1: results how that's worked out for Philly. But Jeffrey Simmons,
Speaker 1: I think somewhere twenty five to fifty. I don't think
Speaker 1: he's gonna be there fifty eight. But I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna step out on a limb and say he's still
Speaker 1: a first round pick. I wouldn't be shocked. And it'll
Speaker 1: be it'll bring three, I'm right, Yeah, it'll be. It'll
Speaker 1: be a Patriots type pick or maybe a you know,
Speaker 1: a team with multiple picks, team that doesn't have a
Speaker 1: drastic need. It's just like, yeah, let's get this thirty one.
Speaker 1: I think that makes some sense. Yeah, just a question here,
Speaker 1: you're kind of switching things. Joseph asked off of periscope.
Speaker 1: He said he's seen some second round projections for Nada,
Speaker 1: the tight end from Georgia. It's possible. Is that possible? Possible?
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's likely. Um, I think Irv
Speaker 1: Smith's clearly your second round tight end. And then Sternberger
Speaker 1: first round tight end Smith. Okay, that's what you're saying,
Speaker 1: that top forty, he's gonna go somewhere on top forty.
Speaker 1: I wonder if that's And I like Nada a lot.
Speaker 1: You know, we talked about him Thursday. I sat down
Speaker 1: and watched him for a couple hours on Friday, big fan.
Speaker 1: I think he fits really well with what the Cowboys do.
Speaker 1: Kevin Turner wrote a really nice right up on him
Speaker 1: on Twitter or well on the Athletic but he was
Speaker 1: promoting it on Twitter. Um. But I wonder if it's
Speaker 1: one of those things where, like you know, Cowboys draft
Speaker 1: hive mind, maybe he's overvalued in our minds because he
Speaker 1: seems to fit with this team. Flicking player though he
Speaker 1: is a lot to watch him. Is he a top
Speaker 1: forty pick? I don't know. I don't know. I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't I have Sternberger over him, though, do yeah?
Speaker 1: But but man, just gun gun to your head, do
Speaker 1: you think? I know? Sorry, Like, if he's there at
Speaker 1: fifty eight, I kind of I got to imagine there's
Speaker 1: a better player also there. I think, so yeah, I
Speaker 1: have a third round great on Nada. I like him
Speaker 1: a lot too, But you know, he just I like
Speaker 1: him a lot. I don't think I like him, but
Speaker 1: there goes there goes, there goes the thought of there
Speaker 1: goes the thought of if you don't draft him at
Speaker 1: fifty eight, you're not going to see him at Well,
Speaker 1: that's that's the draft. I mean, no, no, but that's yeah,
Speaker 1: he's not gonna last thirty two more picks. Exactly does
Speaker 1: that make? That's not reason's worth picking over the not
Speaker 1: reason over draft him. I'm just saying no, I'm a
Speaker 1: big fan of his. If he you know, if they
Speaker 1: drafted him, I wouldn't be upset. But I just think
Speaker 1: there will be a better player there. Yeah, trade up
Speaker 1: in the third round and go get him. Um, I
Speaker 1: got one. Okay, this is a fun one. I got
Speaker 1: one too. If you need one, Uh well here all right,
Speaker 1: I'll go. Then you go our buddy Jonah Tolls. Yeah,
Speaker 1: which in the scout the way y'all were talking up
Speaker 1: Jowan Williams from Vanderbilt last week, he should pay attention. Well,
Speaker 1: here we he wants to know who's better, who's the
Speaker 1: better Williams, Jowan or Greedy? And he he thinks it's Juwan.
Speaker 1: For whatever it's worth, I think Jowan definitely has better
Speaker 1: upside um with what he could be because he's just
Speaker 1: you don't see corners like Jowan william You don't. I
Speaker 1: can't wait to take a picture of him at the combine.
Speaker 1: I'm taking that. I can't pull that out. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: pull that out as a drop. That guy he's physically
Speaker 1: on tape. Oh my gosh, you're gonna stand next to
Speaker 1: his podium like you did for Miles beaming with Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's kind of a kind of creepy scout guy. And
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett came out. He just he looked like an
Speaker 1: action figure. Yeah. By the way, DK Metcalf, you see
Speaker 1: that picture, he needs to lose weight. Gonna say, that's
Speaker 1: that's almost two much Boston Like maybe, well, very it's
Speaker 1: very impressive, but yeah, but that's what I'm saying. David
Speaker 1: Boston was a ninth overall pick. Yeah, so Greedy Williams
Speaker 1: is commonly looked at as a top fifteen prospect. It's
Speaker 1: third on my board, third overall hole no, no, no,
Speaker 1: third of the third one. Okay, I was going to say,
Speaker 1: I think Byron Murphy's a top guy, right, Yeah, who
Speaker 1: do you have? Two? Hang on and we'll tell you
Speaker 1: that Jowan Williams, Murphy Baker Williams, okay, DeAndre Baker. Yeah,
Speaker 1: where does Jowan Williams follow on? He's a second round guy,
Speaker 1: he's the next and then your sin and mulling. So
Speaker 1: as much as you like him, you think that there's
Speaker 1: a pretty clear gap between the two between Jowan and Greedy. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: because it's one's the first round. It's okay, admit it,
Speaker 1: like you're not killing anybody, no, no, but it's like,
Speaker 1: get off the fence. I'm trying not to be on
Speaker 1: the fence. You know. When it's all said and done,
Speaker 1: I bet you I end up shoving. I bet you
Speaker 1: I shoved Williams up there in the first I bet
Speaker 1: you I do. I'm a coward. The way you're gushing
Speaker 1: about okay, well, he's probably gonna run off four or
Speaker 1: five four. You know he's not gonna run really well.
Speaker 1: Tape is so good people, Well it's it's good and bad.
Speaker 1: I mean, let's be you know. I think the traits,
Speaker 1: the traits are what's really impressive with Joe on Williams. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you watch the Georgia game. That's what sticks out in
Speaker 1: my mind. That showed I thought a lot of the
Speaker 1: good and a lot of the bad because he moves
Speaker 1: really well. He's a loose athlete. He's big and long,
Speaker 1: but he also got beat deep. I mean, if he
Speaker 1: takes a false step, he's done. He's totally. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: he's got those he's got the length to like when
Speaker 1: he's on the line. He's not in that they play
Speaker 1: in that way if they play if the zone team.
Speaker 1: And I don't mean to be like just he's not.
Speaker 1: Actually everybody, yeah he's not. He's not. But I just
Speaker 1: look at that guy and I'm thinking, And then there's
Speaker 1: been some there's been some corners in this league or
Speaker 1: guys that we've seen. If I remember that Utah kid
Speaker 1: back in the day that was tall, it is probably
Speaker 1: four years ago. Row, Yeah, that kind of the long,
Speaker 1: big guy and you're like, oh, this guy's and then
Speaker 1: and then he just busts. Cornerback is the position that
Speaker 1: scares me the most, honestly, probably because I think it's
Speaker 1: well other than quarterback. It's the hardest pisial football. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: and like every year you've like become enamored with this
Speaker 1: dude with you know, this huge wingspan and he's six two,
Speaker 1: but he can run like a gazelle and then you
Speaker 1: know he's just it's might never pissing to evaluate because
Speaker 1: it's so fast. It's like a dance and it's you know,
Speaker 1: the traits are one thing, the techniques another. Ball instincts.
Speaker 1: There's so many layers that go to making a good
Speaker 1: corner I mean Greedy to me, I'd go with him
Speaker 1: over Joe On Williams. But I mean they're both top
Speaker 1: five corners in his class. Wouldn't shock me if they
Speaker 1: go both in the first round? Um, you know, I
Speaker 1: think this is a would be surprised. Would you be
Speaker 1: surprised if Williams went above Greedy Williams in this draft?
Speaker 1: Not completely shocked. I'd be surprised, not completely shocked. I
Speaker 1: think I'd be surprised. Which it's always interesting just to
Speaker 1: see how the narrative changes, Like when Colin when you know,
Speaker 1: in October of the season, it was like, well, Greedy
Speaker 1: Williams is a top five pick, and then so how
Speaker 1: does how does the reality ape up to what the
Speaker 1: narrative was. So like the narrative says Greedy is going
Speaker 1: to be a top fifteen pick. So if another cornerback
Speaker 1: were to go above him. That would be it would
Speaker 1: be pretty surprising. What do you think about Baker from
Speaker 1: Georgia Disappointed he pulled out of the Senior Bowl or
Speaker 1: he didn't accept his his Senior Bowl invite. Um. I
Speaker 1: thought he has a really just natural way of I
Speaker 1: think reading and then making him play at the catch point,
Speaker 1: you're gonna see what he runs, because I don't think
Speaker 1: he's you know, he's not a burner. He's not gonna
Speaker 1: and I think you could say that about it, like
Speaker 1: all these quarters Byron Murphy. Yes, he's not an elite
Speaker 1: size speed guy. You know, he just has tremendous quickness
Speaker 1: and anticipation. The ball skills are outstanding. I think he's
Speaker 1: like above average and everything except length, size, speed I'm
Speaker 1: talking about Byron Murphy. Yeah, and then yeah, you could
Speaker 1: say that. I mean DeAndre Baker's undersized a little bit.
Speaker 1: I like Rocky a Sin a lot, Joe One Williams.
Speaker 1: So each one of these guys you can poke holes
Speaker 1: in them. It just kind of depends on what type
Speaker 1: of corner you're looking for and if you if you
Speaker 1: really love Samuel Deebo Samuel from South Carolina, speaking of guys,
Speaker 1: I'd take over Nada. Yeah, but don't watch, don't don't watch.
Speaker 1: Don't watch the tape against Georgia. Don't watch that tape. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's bad tape for him. I gotta tape for Samuel.
Speaker 1: Put it that way real quick before we take this
Speaker 1: break here. This is a it's a very it's a
Speaker 1: very Cowboys center question, but it's a good question from
Speaker 1: Wayne Um. It's a good point. The Cowboys always try
Speaker 1: to address their biggest holes in free agency with minor
Speaker 1: signings to free them up in the draft. What's that
Speaker 1: position like if you know they're gonna make two or
Speaker 1: you know, outside of resigning their own guys, they're gonna sign.
Speaker 1: They're not gonna be needle moving signings most likely, but
Speaker 1: they're gonna sign some guys just to give themselves freedom
Speaker 1: in the draft. What position is that? Can? I can?
Speaker 1: What do you got? Well? The problem is, though, what
Speaker 1: I like a thirty one year old slot receiver that
Speaker 1: can play inside and out? Who are you talking about
Speaker 1: Golden tape? Ah? Okay, Okay, now that's interesting. I saw
Speaker 1: you talking about that on Twitter. Yeah. Now, the thing
Speaker 1: about it is, though Dane's told me that there's a
Speaker 1: lot of slot players in this draft. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of slot players in every draft. Yeah, but am I
Speaker 1: am I willing to go out and say, Okay, I
Speaker 1: can I can sign a Golden Tate that could play
Speaker 1: slot and inside or some slot and outside, or can
Speaker 1: I go and load up and try and get this
Speaker 1: guy from the Great Northwest to come here and recruit him?
Speaker 1: Now both, I can't do both. I just can do one.
Speaker 1: Probably you probably can't do both. I can't do both.
Speaker 1: I can only do one. Which one would you rather have?
Speaker 1: That's what I'm asking right now. Boys, I'd rather have
Speaker 1: the safety. Yeah, I think that's easy to me. Okay,
Speaker 1: if that's the case, then Dane, we're gonna see the
Speaker 1: load up and talk about these players. That is a
Speaker 1: step that is a step above what the Cowboys traditionally do.
Speaker 1: And and hey, you can't you can't predict anything with certainty.
Speaker 1: I definitely think that there are gonna be some Earl
Speaker 1: Thomas conversations. There's gonna be some real Thomas conversations. But
Speaker 1: that is it's gonna be a departure from what they've
Speaker 1: done in the last It's to be about Earl comics,
Speaker 1: to be about Earl Thomas, conversations of how much money. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they realized Earle Thomas is a really good football player,
Speaker 1: knowing Rod Marinelli, and I'm you know, there's a million
Speaker 1: people that are gonna hate what I'm about to say,
Speaker 1: but I could see them signing like a veteran just
Speaker 1: defensive tackle guy to get the job done. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: just not meaning they wouldn't draft one, but just to
Speaker 1: make sure they don't have to draft one. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what though, Man, this defensive tackle group is not bad. No,
Speaker 1: it's really good, not bad at all. And that's where
Speaker 1: I kind of again I'm starting, you know, when we've
Speaker 1: talked about Williams and Oliver from Houston, Simmons, Wilkins from Clemson,
Speaker 1: Jones from Ohio State. Tillery is a guy we mentioned,
Speaker 1: Lawrence who knows Dexter. Lawrence from Clemson, who knows where
Speaker 1: that that all is gonna where that one's gonna shake out?
Speaker 1: Bugs from Alabama. I mean, it's a pretty deep list
Speaker 1: of guys, okay, but just but can't you just see
Speaker 1: him from Arizona State. It's another guy that we need
Speaker 1: to mention. I'll be I'll be an, lets you Homer
Speaker 1: for a second, just because He's the first name that
Speaker 1: cropped up on my on my screen, like Benny Logan
Speaker 1: is going to be a free agent. Yeah, couldn't you
Speaker 1: see him just offering him a small deal just so
Speaker 1: he's there so they don't have to get a defensive
Speaker 1: tackle early in the draft. That's like exactly the type
Speaker 1: of thing they like getting more that we have that
Speaker 1: uh oh, the defensive tackle that we that got hurt
Speaker 1: during the season. That why am I going? Brain did
Speaker 1: I don't know? Or to Montree more he's been gone
Speaker 1: for a year. I'm thinking of I hate when I
Speaker 1: do this to myself. Ardy tackle. Yeah, there was a
Speaker 1: defensive tackle that they really really liked. You're killing me, No,
Speaker 1: look it up, I am, but anyway killing me? There
Speaker 1: was god what more just a Tone Jones, daytone Jones.
Speaker 1: Oh he didn't get hurt in the middle of the season.
Speaker 1: He got hurt in training camp. Yeah, but Daytone Jones. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's still around. You can do that. See that's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I was more. It's I did that with him.
Speaker 1: It's more Jones. I knew it was something like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's all right. No, that's a good point, but
Speaker 1: that that might be something that they do. But I'm
Speaker 1: I'm if you, if you guys tell me I could
Speaker 1: get her Earl Thomas, I just play safety. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look at drafting a slot player. Then we
Speaker 1: say it all the time, but like the conversation will
Speaker 1: change because of free agency. Like you know, I'm driving
Speaker 1: the train to draft a wide receiver right right. If
Speaker 1: they go get Golden Tate, I'm gonna shut up about
Speaker 1: that because that doesn't make sense. Penny Hurt in the
Speaker 1: late third round, who is a combine snub, by the way,
Speaker 1: the biggest combine snub this year? Um um, all right,
Speaker 1: do we need to take a break. We do need
Speaker 1: to take wreak. I was looking at just looking through
Speaker 1: periscope real quick, and could they're on the They're on
Speaker 1: the Tate train, but they're also on the Earl Thomas. Way,
Speaker 1: rather have Earl than Tate now. And I think Golden
Speaker 1: Tate's a great player, no disrespect to him. Okay, when
Speaker 1: we come back, we're gonna have some more draft talk
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Speaker 1: kaa boo lost Thanks day for that. We lost a
Speaker 1: scout this week, Ron Hughes. Now take a real quick
Speaker 1: story about Ron Hughes. What kind of guy Ron Hughes was?
Speaker 1: He's never known you to tell a quick story. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll do the best I can. We're at the combine
Speaker 1: timing and we're sitting there at the forty. Hughes his group,
Speaker 1: he's with the Lions. He's lined up in front of us.
Speaker 1: I think the Colts were behind us at the time.
Speaker 1: So we're all lined up in our row in between players.
Speaker 1: Hughes turns to his intern to his right, reach into
Speaker 1: his wall and hands a kid one hundred dollar bill
Speaker 1: and he says, hey, we need a hundred dollars worth
Speaker 1: of Whitecastle hamburgers right now. So the kid took off,
Speaker 1: still their time and players next thing. You know this kid,
Speaker 1: You know those little white castle hamburgers were like biscuit burgers,
Speaker 1: fifty cents a piece. Whitecastle like half whitecastle. When you
Speaker 1: walk at the combine in Indianapolis, you ever had crystal
Speaker 1: crystal whitecastle it's a bite sized burger. It's it's yeah slider, Yeah,
Speaker 1: basically a slider Hughes. Hughes went into his pocket, gave
Speaker 1: his kid one hundred dollar bill and came back. Kid
Speaker 1: had boxes of hamburgers. And so all the scouts, we're
Speaker 1: all up their time in forties, like clocks in one hand,
Speaker 1: white castles in the other, just kind of munching away.
Speaker 1: But you know, that was kind of the guy Ron
Speaker 1: Hughes with He said, you know, I'm gonna buy lunch
Speaker 1: for everybody up there at the timing stations and stuff.
Speaker 1: The combine. So we lost one this week. Ron was
Speaker 1: with the Pittsburgh Steelers, so h you know, rest in peace,
Speaker 1: my friend. I appreciate everything you've ever done for me. Um. Okay,
Speaker 1: you people on periscope, you know, I mean, I love
Speaker 1: this periscope stuff, you really do. I think I love
Speaker 1: the interaction. I love the interaction. Yeah okay, and it's
Speaker 1: like a j I think they're doing this right. As
Speaker 1: his idea is Earl Thomason free agency defensive tackle, a
Speaker 1: fifty eight penny heart in the third, running back in
Speaker 1: the fourth, what about his plan or her plan? Honestly,
Speaker 1: I love I love the plan, but it drives me
Speaker 1: crazy when people do that, Like they create a grocery
Speaker 1: list of like this, this is how you're gonna solve
Speaker 1: you guys spatting down our fans. Well, what you don't predetermine?
Speaker 1: What is the tagline of the show. Yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: it's investigating energy. Like the whole reason we do this
Speaker 1: is to open your mind up to as many possibilities
Speaker 1: as possible so that you don't fixate on one thing,
Speaker 1: so you're not sitting there like, it's gotta be Pennyhart
Speaker 1: with pick number nine. Do we need to know their
Speaker 1: third round pick? Do we know the number yet? I
Speaker 1: don't think we even do we do, because like ninety one, yeah,
Speaker 1: something like that. The earliest Camp pick is at the
Speaker 1: end of the third round, so we do know it.
Speaker 1: I just it's gotta be Pennyhart with pick No, it
Speaker 1: doesn't because what if what if an offensive tackle is
Speaker 1: great and significantly higher than Pennyhart or and or right? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean no, yeah, Like I love the idea because
Speaker 1: I do think they need a draft a running back. Sure,
Speaker 1: I do think they need to draft a slot receiver.
Speaker 1: I would love to have Earl Thomas on this team,
Speaker 1: But to itemize it like that and set yourself up.
Speaker 1: That's why, like seventy five percent of draft picks get
Speaker 1: booed because dumb draft fans, not our fans, because our
Speaker 1: fans are smart but dumb, hoping we're gonna qualify that
Speaker 1: our fans are incredible, but dumb, dumb draft fans are like,
Speaker 1: it's gotta be a d tackle or else it's a
Speaker 1: wasted pick. No, how many And to be perfectly fair,
Speaker 1: we had plenty of our own doubts about Layton vander
Speaker 1: esh during the draft process, But how many people were
Speaker 1: upset about that pick because it didn't hit like it
Speaker 1: wasn't a wide receiver. It wasn't like it didn't hit
Speaker 1: the perfect chord, you know, like it wasn't How could
Speaker 1: they do that when we need a defensive tackle. Oh
Speaker 1: he's in the Pro Bowl. Shut up, stop, Like that's
Speaker 1: not how the draft works. So no, you're it. I
Speaker 1: love the thought process and I would I would do
Speaker 1: a backflip if they got a really good running back
Speaker 1: in the fourth round, but I understand that it doesn't
Speaker 1: always fall that way. Will you think about Bryce Love
Speaker 1: and the fourth I'm here for it. I love there's
Speaker 1: another one those knees, right, Yeah, that's don't do it
Speaker 1: to take your risky pick in the fourth you're gonna
Speaker 1: have two fourth round picks. No, I'll tell you what
Speaker 1: Bryce Love to me when I first why, I felt
Speaker 1: like Bryce Loves should have come out a junior year. Oh,
Speaker 1: everywhere Bryce Sluck comes out his junior year, he might.
Speaker 1: He might have been a high second round pick. You've
Speaker 1: been top fifty, yeah, top sixty. Yeah, there's no question.
Speaker 1: But this is a guy that loved college. He cared
Speaker 1: more about getting his degree than both of the NFL.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, if he could do it all over again,
Speaker 1: he probably still goes back to school. Yeah, he doesn't
Speaker 1: leave early. Even though this senior year did not offensive
Speaker 1: line was terrible, the quarterback didn't help him out, he
Speaker 1: didn't have a great year, and then of course the injury.
Speaker 1: Even if he had to redo it all over again,
Speaker 1: he probably would have just because that's the type of
Speaker 1: kid he is. But with that said, you get a
Speaker 1: two round discount, get him an elite fourth round this year.
Speaker 1: That's not a bad Uh. I have really good catcher,
Speaker 1: really good runner. I have a few misgivings just because
Speaker 1: I mean, how do y'all feel about making him run
Speaker 1: between the tackles. I don't feel good about it. No,
Speaker 1: that's not his strength. Oh but no, but man, he's
Speaker 1: not afraid. No, McCaffrey, prove that, Mcca. The way the
Speaker 1: offense is, you have to be able to run through
Speaker 1: the tackles to play. I don't twee the tackles to
Speaker 1: play at Stanford. I don't worry about his willingness to
Speaker 1: do it. I worry about his durability. And I understand.
Speaker 1: I understand that you have Zeke, but he's still gonna
Speaker 1: have to be able to do it to be a
Speaker 1: well rounded backup. But I would still like if you
Speaker 1: could again, you know, we'll see what the compics are,
Speaker 1: but like, if you could get him with pick number
Speaker 1: one thirty seven, yeah, yeah, I'm I'm way here for it.
Speaker 1: What position do you having the hardest to evaluate right now? Probably?
Speaker 1: I mean, he would people sit down and really start
Speaker 1: digging in on these guys. What area are they gonna go?
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I don't know where this direction this
Speaker 1: is gonna go. Yeah, the linebackers because there's just not
Speaker 1: that there's not that many. And then the ones at
Speaker 1: the top, you're kind of like you so if you
Speaker 1: need a linebacker, you're kind of slo Was that the well, yeah,
Speaker 1: Layton vander I should be the top linebacker in this draft. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't feel like that's a reach at all by
Speaker 1: saying that, Um, you got the kid that's undersized at Michigan,
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you love him, but again it's just
Speaker 1: he's undersized and that shows up. Um. Yeah, there's so
Speaker 1: much to like about Mac Wilson Alabama, but he just
Speaker 1: the light bulb has to come on at some point
Speaker 1: for him, you know. It just he didn't show that
Speaker 1: development this year you wanted to see. And then after that,
Speaker 1: like I really like Jermaine Pratt from NC State, Yeah,
Speaker 1: really like gut to buy from Hawaii, but to buy
Speaker 1: from Hawaii is really good. Yeah. And so these guys
Speaker 1: are Day two picks and I think they can play
Speaker 1: in the league. But it's just not a really like
Speaker 1: I'm mapping out. I've been doing my top ten on
Speaker 1: the Athletic the last few weeks and I just posted
Speaker 1: pass rushers yesterday. Tomorrow will be defensive tackles, Monday will
Speaker 1: be linebackers, And I'm trying to narrow down. I mean,
Speaker 1: I have like my top nine. I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: figure out who that last guy is at a ten spot.
Speaker 1: It's just kind of tough because just trying to fill
Speaker 1: these guys in because there's there's a lot of names,
Speaker 1: not a lot of talent. See that. That would scare
Speaker 1: me a little bit if I'm as a team looking
Speaker 1: for a linebacker, which it should. Selfishly, I'm not worried
Speaker 1: about it because no, but I'm talking about all our
Speaker 1: brothers and sisters who are following other teams screw them.
Speaker 1: It's probably the sorry, my apologize. If we're going to
Speaker 1: rank the positions and this year's draft, I think linebackers
Speaker 1: probably at that bottom, if not at the very very bottom.
Speaker 1: They want to know about the linebacker from Notre Dame
Speaker 1: to von Coney. Yeah, I like him, I don't love
Speaker 1: him like other people do. I think he's he got
Speaker 1: better in coverage just past year, but I still have questions.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna a guy who's gonna be
Speaker 1: able to cover in man, especially so he's like a
Speaker 1: two down player. Maybe he is he six foot two thirty?
Speaker 1: Is he six foot two thirty two thirty? Yeah? Yeah, Um,
Speaker 1: but he's not a guy that I'm gona trust him
Speaker 1: third down. I mean, I there are other linebackers in
Speaker 1: this draft that I would rather have. And if we're
Speaker 1: talking about it, if you're looking for a three down guy,
Speaker 1: um to buy Pratt. Take both those guys as three
Speaker 1: down players over to von Kony And I think Coney's
Speaker 1: a solid, probably a third rounder because he I think
Speaker 1: he does a lot of things well, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's tough to get really excited about him. That's that's
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a scary proposition. I mean, so
Speaker 1: what you got, Devin White, Devin Bush? Yeah, who am
Speaker 1: I forgetting mack Wilson. Mack Wilson to buy Pratty mentioned
Speaker 1: not trying to. I'm not trying to pat the cowboys
Speaker 1: on the house. Joseph Kid from Florida, vander esh Pick
Speaker 1: looks even better. Yeah, in the light of that fact,
Speaker 1: Joseph's too. You love the strengths, but the weaknesses you
Speaker 1: really worry about. I mean, he's just he flies all
Speaker 1: over the field. You love that, but uh, he just
Speaker 1: he's over aggressive, false steps everywhere. Um, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of things about him that you're optimistic, but you're also
Speaker 1: you're very cautious. If not safety then or not linebacker,
Speaker 1: then safety's a position that another I think it's better
Speaker 1: than linebacker, but another one where you have questions about
Speaker 1: some of these players. Yeah, love Adderlee. I think Thompson's,
Speaker 1: you know, not that top ten pick that you know
Speaker 1: we thought maybe initially in the beginning of the season
Speaker 1: when he got off to such a hot start, when
Speaker 1: you you know the full body of work and you
Speaker 1: watch his film and he's more of a late one,
Speaker 1: early two. I love Taylor rat He's a I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a starting safety in this league for
Speaker 1: a long time, even though he might never make a
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. Yeah, he's I don't think he's he's a
Speaker 1: good play right about that. But you know, Jonathan Abram
Speaker 1: on Thornhill, Um, we kind of talked about Thornhill and
Speaker 1: Abram last week, though, didn't we like, would you rather
Speaker 1: kind of a guy Abram Mississippi State safety. Right, he's
Speaker 1: a kid that's matured, working out. He's working out here.
Speaker 1: Michael Johnson McKinney. Yeah, Yeah, that's fun. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: he's married, he has a daughter. I mean he's Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's kind of an older gentleman of that locker room. Um, well,
Speaker 1: I didn't fall in love with Hooker or with Belle
Speaker 1: Hooker being from everyone in love with Hooker. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: he uh he he. I love the love these I
Speaker 1: love these exchanges. He loved the instincts like, but he's
Speaker 1: just not a premier athlete, Like he's almost like a
Speaker 1: he almost has linebacker athleticism. Yeah, you know, but I
Speaker 1: think he sees the field really well. I think he
Speaker 1: anticipates really well. He just he doesn't have that quick
Speaker 1: twit that you really want in a guy that is
Speaker 1: going to be covered a slot or you're you want
Speaker 1: single high or so. I struggle with him as well.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're not wrong the President of State kid
Speaker 1: as well, Mike Bell. I think they're both kind of
Speaker 1: in a similar range. That was a Twitter question that
Speaker 1: we didn't get to, but that conversation reminded me a
Speaker 1: couple of minutes. It was along the lines of like, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, is safety a situation where if you don't
Speaker 1: get one early, is it worth trying to get one
Speaker 1: at all? Which I can't help but think about Xavier
Speaker 1: Woods and how late you got him and how well
Speaker 1: he's played so I don't know. I don't know the
Speaker 1: third round grade on Xavier Woods. Yeah you did, But
Speaker 1: is I mean, is there depth there? Like I remember
Speaker 1: saying that last that's a position. I mean, if you're
Speaker 1: not gonna I'm working through these defensive linemen right now.
Speaker 1: If you're not gonna get it in the second or
Speaker 1: third round, is it really better than what you already
Speaker 1: have on the roster. That's fair, Mike Evans Blair from Utah.
Speaker 1: Unless you're going for a pure upside kid that you
Speaker 1: want to develop, I think in terms of immediately play
Speaker 1: right now, make a big impact. Yeah, you're not wrong.
Speaker 1: If you don't get a guy in second or third round,
Speaker 1: you're not going to probably find him in the fourth.
Speaker 1: That's all the more reason if you're going to make
Speaker 1: a splashy free agent signing, all the more reason for
Speaker 1: it to be Earl, because I guarantee you we can
Speaker 1: find a slot receiver on day three. Renfro Trey Quinn
Speaker 1: was mister irrelevant line exact, which I still can't wrap
Speaker 1: my head around. Yeah, you know, and Kent's got the
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas video playing right now for you if you're
Speaker 1: watching along with us. That's the one thing that cat
Speaker 1: can do, he's around the football. Do you think this
Speaker 1: team would be open to a big slot receiver or
Speaker 1: do you think they really Humphrey from Texas Little Jordana
Speaker 1: or do you think they really want that quick footed
Speaker 1: I can't say what they want right, but that's kind
Speaker 1: of what I've been saying, is I'm over the idea
Speaker 1: that your slot has to be five eight. I mean,
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley is great, he's a really good player, but
Speaker 1: like you know, again, what's easier for the quarterback to
Speaker 1: throw to the guy that has separation or the guy
Speaker 1: that's bigger that probably will have contested catches. You can't
Speaker 1: find a guy that can do both. And I'm saying
Speaker 1: not that guy, but Jalen Herd from Baylor another one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's another guy you need to look at. Juju Smith
Speaker 1: Schuster is technically a slot receiver, but he can do
Speaker 1: a lot more than no so it can Golden Tate.
Speaker 1: So why don't you go find that guy instead of
Speaker 1: a you know, I want a guy that can line
Speaker 1: up everywhere. If he winds up predominantly in the slot,
Speaker 1: that's great, but I want a guy who can do
Speaker 1: it all. What about the kid Doss from is it
Speaker 1: Cal poly or Cal Davis cal Davis? Uh yeah, just
Speaker 1: really really seasoned route runner like he used to get
Speaker 1: every slot guy. Is he kind of a uh yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean I don't see why he couldn't even ask
Speaker 1: you a question. I don't see why he couldn't he
Speaker 1: but he's not gonna be a you know, a quick
Speaker 1: twitch guy. But at the same time, he understands how
Speaker 1: to manipulate defenders get their hips turned. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: think you can play in space and do that be
Speaker 1: just fine? Okay, that's a that's a question to get
Speaker 1: answered at the buying Yeah, when you're out at the
Speaker 1: bars or whatever. Absolutely, do we need to just be
Speaker 1: looking at the Hunter Renfro type receivers or do we
Speaker 1: need to have a wider net? Need to have a
Speaker 1: wider net there? So okay, hey, well that's about all
Speaker 1: the time we have today. I'm gonna just kind of
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