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Speaker 1: This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: I'm the our war room for in center news and

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Speaker 1: draft analysis from deep within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters

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Speaker 1: at the Star in Fresco, Dallas Cowboys Select Late and

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Speaker 1: now your hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman, and Brian brought

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Speaker 1: us well, Welcome to another week of the Draft Show

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Speaker 1: from the SWBC Mortgage Studios. As the Big Boys guy says,

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Speaker 1: Brian brought us here with Dane Brugler, David Hellman, Kent Garrison,

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Speaker 1: Executive Producing Glad to have everybody on board with us

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Speaker 1: today as we get into the seventy days. By the way, guys,

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Speaker 1: until the NFL Draft takes place in Nashville, Tennessee. I'm

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Speaker 1: kind of looking forward to when the draft goes to Vegas,

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Speaker 1: that we just take this show on the road and beach.

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Speaker 1: We don't we don't ever go where the draft is.

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Speaker 1: I know, we always stay here at the building. We'll

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Speaker 1: make a push when it's in Vegas. Whence in Vegas

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Speaker 1: will make a big push. Nashville sounds like a few

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Speaker 1: days to kind of, you know, after you have a

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Speaker 1: busy day, sit back and have one talk about it.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about it today because Brian Bross is

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Speaker 1: a little hot. We just you just refer to yourself

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Speaker 1: in the third person, so you must be, yeah, a

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Speaker 1: little hot right now? All right, what's on your mind? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm getting tired of the league telling me who I

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Speaker 1: can look at and who I can't look at. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's this combine those folks that work off Park Avenue

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Speaker 1: up there in New York. I think that, sir, address

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Speaker 1: still least to be a four or five park, I

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Speaker 1: think is what it was. They they know the train

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Speaker 1: schedule to Connecticut. Trust me, they don't know what goes

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Speaker 1: on on these teams at a club level, especially scouting

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Speaker 1: at a club level. Don't tell me what players I

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Speaker 1: not following Brian, somebody fill them in. I'm hot to

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Speaker 1: the league. Well, we knew that Jeffrey Simmons and Preston

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Speaker 1: Williams would not be invited to combine, but the league

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Speaker 1: receives the way to really, really, really good football players.

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Speaker 1: League rescinded its invitation to Louisiana Tech defensive end Jalen

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Speaker 1: Ferguson yesterday, prompting a whole new line of conversation because

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Speaker 1: they did invite him. And so I've been I've been

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Speaker 1: outsick for most of the week. So Ketch, welcome back, though,

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Speaker 1: wisdom teeth if I'm not up to speed on my details.

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Speaker 1: They found out about some violent altercations in his past.

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Speaker 1: He got into a fight at McDonald's. But it's in

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Speaker 1: it's like years when he was eighteen years old. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: eighteen years Like if it had happened between the end

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Speaker 1: of the season and now, I think that's a different kind.

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Speaker 1: If I ran for president right now something, I'd have

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Speaker 1: no chance. Oh god, they would dig it. They would

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Speaker 1: dig up so much stuff that's in you know, you

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Speaker 1: I'm the guy that wants to pay the players. Rumor

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Speaker 1: that so they so he did this when he was eighteen. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm tired of the league. I tired. We've had this

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Speaker 1: conversation and and I know, you know Dane, Dane was

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Speaker 1: talking about it on Twitter. Guess Joe Mixon. We had

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Speaker 1: to kind of go away. Guys. I mean, I understand

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Speaker 1: understand it's some information, but that's what the combines for

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Speaker 1: the combine is for to get information to answer questions.

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Speaker 1: It's for the medical. Now you've got Simmons, who we

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Speaker 1: I feel a couple of types of ways about this,

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Speaker 1: and you know it's We've had some healthy dis league.

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Speaker 1: No I'm not I'm not going to defend the league,

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Speaker 1: and I appreciate a few try I've seen some of

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Speaker 1: But are these kids gonna get drafted anyway? They are?

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Speaker 1: But how much easier would their draft process be if

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Speaker 1: they if they could just go to the combine Exactly.

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Speaker 1: They're hurting the wrong people, and they're saying, you're hurting

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Speaker 1: travel to see these players. I've worked for general managers

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Speaker 1: opportunity to go to Mississippi State, to go to Louisiana Tech.

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Speaker 1: Why do you take the opportunity away? If these owners,

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Speaker 1: that Jeff Lurry made, and that was after much digging

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Speaker 1: just it's counterproductive what you're trying to do. If any thing,

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Speaker 1: right now and they'll they'll tell you like they'll say,

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Speaker 1: The Tommy demitrofs to John Dorsey. John Dorsey told me,

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Speaker 1: some shady stuff, you know what. I think there's a

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Speaker 1: just saying, though, the idea of trying to get to

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Speaker 1: taken away from these teams. And the other layer to this, too,

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Speaker 1: a perfect example. Yeah got a fight and McDonald's five

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Speaker 1: years ago. And I want to circle back because, like

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Speaker 1: I said, I feel a lot of different ways about it.

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Speaker 1: I get y'all's point, and I agree with a lot

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Speaker 1: of it. I don't hate the idea of there being

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Speaker 1: some repercussions for doing terrible things, yea consequences, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't hate that idea. I don't know if this

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Speaker 1: to compromise then, I don't know, Well what is before

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Speaker 1: we do that? I did like the Jalen Ferguson things

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Speaker 1: sounds stupid like that if it happened when he's eighteen, sure,

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Speaker 1: and you're punishing it for him, punishing him for it now,

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Speaker 1: I don't think I buy that. And I don't know

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Speaker 1: his whull whole history, so maybe I'm wrong, But I mean,

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Speaker 1: in college? I mean mostly college stuff, you know, like

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Speaker 1: you crave is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com draft, Showboys

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Speaker 1: on the Club. Indeed, we're back here at the SWBC

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Speaker 1: Mortgage Studios. Brian Broadens, Day Burglar, David Helma, Kitt Garrison

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Speaker 1: Executive Producing. Again, thank you guys for hanging out with us.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for hanging out with us on periscope. Appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: Uh you know they love the interaction with the fans.

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Speaker 1: I think that's important to our show. I think it's

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Speaker 1: what kind of drives us to look at these players

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Speaker 1: and to be able to talk about him because we

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Speaker 1: get the opportunity. Again, we don't discriminate. If you're a

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Speaker 1: fan of another team, we'll give you a lot of names.

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Speaker 1: You know, we probably won't get into all your team

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Speaker 1: needs and stuff. But as the draft goes along, if

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Speaker 1: you follow along with us, we get to the end

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Speaker 1: and we do the three days of draft coverage, we

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Speaker 1: will talk about team and team needs and who you

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Speaker 1: picked and stuff like that, and you'll be better for

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Speaker 1: it because you'll know these names and I know in

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Speaker 1: these names. It also means we do something called twitter

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Speaker 1: on the Twitter, David Hillman, I'll let you have this

450
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Speaker 1: show now. Yeah, Jay must have heard Dane talking about

451
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Speaker 1: the number of cornerbacks the Cowboys have in contract years

452
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Speaker 1: because he wants some mid tier corner names. Speaking of names,

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Speaker 1: just like you know Day three or round three, round four,

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Speaker 1: you know late day two, early day three cornerbacks. A

455
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Speaker 1: late three guy that I like, Justin Lane from Michigan State. Yeah,

456
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Speaker 1: good player. Former wide receiver made the switched over to corner.

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Speaker 1: A little leggie, plays on his heels at times, but

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Speaker 1: he moves well, good speed, love his ball skills. As

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Speaker 1: a former wide receiver, you would expect him to have,

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Speaker 1: you know, top shelf ball skills and he does absolutely

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Speaker 1: And I think he's his instincts took a big jump

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Speaker 1: this year. I think he's continuing to get better and better.

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Speaker 1: So I think Justin Lane from Michigan State is a

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Speaker 1: name to keep on the radar. If we're talking, I'm

465
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Speaker 1: a great a little bit higher, but if he's there

466
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Speaker 1: in the late third, he would make sense. Where do

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Speaker 1: you have Julian Love a little bit higher? Julian Love

468
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Speaker 1: out Dame. Yeah, I've going back and forth on him

469
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Speaker 1: because he doesn't have elite size and he doesn't have

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Speaker 1: elite speed, but I love his feet and he just

471
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Speaker 1: has a knack for being in the right place right time.

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Speaker 1: Now you see that lack of size show up to

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Speaker 1: watch a Stanford game Antar Sega Whiteside, so you see

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Speaker 1: the lack of length like a size show up. But

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Speaker 1: that bullyed a little bit. Yeah, but I think you could.

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Speaker 1: I mean I think as a nickel especially um, I

477
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Speaker 1: have a solid two on him. So he wasn't a

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Speaker 1: two three, he was more of a solid yeah, more

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Speaker 1: of a solid two. Yeah. I'm a fan of his.

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Speaker 1: Just see, I have been more than as a third

481
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Speaker 1: is what I have. And I'll tell you about this kid.

482
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Speaker 1: He's one of these guys who travels with whoever the

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Speaker 1: best receiver is. Yeah, and that's and he's not afraid

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Speaker 1: to play. And but Dane's right about him though, and

485
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Speaker 1: but about his you know, the ability he has. He

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Speaker 1: got again, like I said, got buoyed in the air

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Speaker 1: a little bit on the fade. And I think that

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Speaker 1: has to do with his size. But this guy reacts

489
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Speaker 1: really quickly. He's got that lateral slide to him. He

490
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Speaker 1: has a feel how to play with those offhand and stuff.

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Speaker 1: So I kind of got him more in the third round,

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Speaker 1: probably because of the lack of height. He's right now

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Speaker 1: five ten one ninety one. I think I'm carrying him

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Speaker 1: at you know, so doesn't sound like a Chris ras

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Speaker 1: Shard guy. Well, you know, but then again, when you

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Speaker 1: talk about guys that play, you know, long arm, guys

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Speaker 1: that play with the offhand and stuff. We saw, you know,

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Speaker 1: those the kinds of guys that talk about But you're

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Speaker 1: you're not discourage. You're not discourage. You're not wrong. If

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Speaker 1: we're talking with the long armed guys, then that's the

501
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Speaker 1: Isaiah Johnson from Houston. Yeah, there, Donnie Johnson from Kentucky,

502
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Speaker 1: the Penn State kid. Yeah. I think you know, we'll

503
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Speaker 1: see how some of these guys might get pushed up

504
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Speaker 1: because they play corner and they have the length, Yeah,

505
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Speaker 1: the height, length, speed. But if they're there in a

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Speaker 1: late third, they would make some sounse I'll answer. I'll

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Speaker 1: answer one from Reuben Isaiah Johnson. I kind of liked

508
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Speaker 1: him too. Uh, we get this, we get this a lot.

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Speaker 1: I wish I had a date for you. I says,

510
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Speaker 1: did the Cowboys have any compensatory picks? I'm certain that

511
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Speaker 1: they will get at least one there the fourth round.

512
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Speaker 1: They're due a fourth from Anthony Hitchens. I know people

513
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Speaker 1: in the front office are at least optimistic that they'll

514
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Speaker 1: also get a sixth. Don't ask me like the formula

515
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Speaker 1: is so bizarre. It's a you know, incoming contracts, outgoing contracts.

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Speaker 1: How much did you pay, how much did they pay?

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Speaker 1: How much did they play during the season. I don't

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Speaker 1: remember the particulars of it, but the fact that they

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Speaker 1: released Deonte Thompson before the fourth back, Yeah, so they

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Speaker 1: should are they at least have a chance to get

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Speaker 1: a sixth. So they have five picks right now, there's

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Speaker 1: at least a decent chance they will certainly get a

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Speaker 1: fourth for Hitchens and then they might get another one.

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Speaker 1: Kind of did have as many as seven picks, kind

525
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Speaker 1: of in an interesting spot, sitting at the bottom of

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Speaker 1: the draft, you know, of each round. Yeah, when you're

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Speaker 1: sitting down there, though, somebody maybe from the top of

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Speaker 1: the next round want to come visit you. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: that's kind of maybe there's a player that they do

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Speaker 1: not want to get out of the round. So if

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Speaker 1: you're interested in maybe moving back a few spots, so

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Speaker 1: you take that fifty eight move back, maybe you could

533
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Speaker 1: pick up some extra stuff along the way. But sitting

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Speaker 1: at the bottom of the draft is not a bad

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Speaker 1: thing if you're looking to add picks, because people from

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Speaker 1: the top of the draft want to get back in.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, the league has a date for everything

538
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Speaker 1: that happens, except for that they I don't know when

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Speaker 1: they're going to announce the compis that usually does it

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Speaker 1: happen while we're at the combine or he used to

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Speaker 1: happen at the owner's meetings, but then they start last

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Speaker 1: week they surprises and did it a couple weeks earlier,

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Speaker 1: so sometime in March if I had early March would

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Speaker 1: be my guess. All right, we touched on this in

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Speaker 1: the first segment. How important is the Cowboy? How important

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Speaker 1: is pick fifty eight to this roster in twenty nineteen?

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Speaker 1: Meaning if Jeffrey Simmons acl injury pushes him down toward

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Speaker 1: fifty eight, do you pull a Jerry Special and grab

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Speaker 1: him or nah? Not playing at all? Right, Dane too

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Speaker 1: nineteen doesn't seem like you wouldn't think so. I mean

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't want to push him, you know, I mean

552
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Speaker 1: where do you think? Okay? First of all, his draft

553
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Speaker 1: evaluation and projection was difficult to begin with because of

554
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Speaker 1: the baggage um. And you know it's it's funny because

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Speaker 1: you talk to people film stop twelve right, film top

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Speaker 1: six stop seven. Thing I was being nice, thank you

557
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Speaker 1: good last week when you were you and I were talking.

558
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Speaker 1: The one thing that I came away with the draft

559
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Speaker 1: show is that from last week was Williams is clearly

560
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Speaker 1: your top. William Wims from Alabama's clearly you're your top guy,

561
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Speaker 1: but the gap between him and Simmons Mississippi State is

562
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: not as fast as fair. Yeah. Yeah, I think there's

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Speaker 1: I think Nick Boson and Quinn and Williams are two

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Speaker 1: best players in this draft and then there's a there's

565
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Speaker 1: a gap. But Simmons is in on that second tier,

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Speaker 1: right right, Yeah, so I think we agree there. But

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Speaker 1: you know, because of what happened when he was in March,

568
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Speaker 1: right after he signed to Missisippi State, before he even

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Speaker 1: you know, went on the campus. Yeah, that's what people

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Speaker 1: on periscoper tell me. This wasn't even this didn't happen

571
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: at college. No, it happened, you know. I mean he

572
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Speaker 1: technically wasn't even enrolled. So you know, it's something that

573
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Speaker 1: is arian over there's video of it, and if there's videos, yah,

574
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: see that's baggage. Sometimes you have to take those things

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Speaker 1: into account. Prom Well, I'm I'm you know, so we'll see.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not trying to be mean here. He

577
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Speaker 1: I feel really strongly he would have been a top

578
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Speaker 1: twenty pick. Now, he could have been as high as

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Speaker 1: top seven or eight, or it could have slipped to

580
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 1: the teens who knows now with the ACL my early

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Speaker 1: guest as he goes somewhere between twenty five and fifty,

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Speaker 1: that's my early game. See I've talked, so you still

583
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: are in a situation where you're probably having to trade

584
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Speaker 1: up to get a guy who's not going to play.

585
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: I've talked to I've talked to several scouts around the

586
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Speaker 1: league about this, and I said, can this guy get

587
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: to the Cowboys? And they, to a man, we're saying no,

588
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: I don't, no way. I like what you're saying, because

589
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: fifties fifties close. Yeah, I'm gonna scout to think scouts

590
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: seem to think twenty five to more like forty five.

591
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: That's kind of where that that range. I'm gonna steal

592
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: up the point right off of Dane's twitter. I think

593
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: you were the one that made it is Sidney Jones

594
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: is not as good as a player as Jeffrey Simmons,

595
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: not at all, and he went forty four with its achilles. Yeah,

596
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: and so really, I mean achilles are looking at it,

597
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: that's the worst injury than At Dane's point, I just said,

598
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: oh yeah, because Sidney Jones was looked at as a

599
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Speaker 1: guy that's possible first rounder, top twenty pick possibly, and

600
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: you know he had the achilles at his pro day,

601
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: and yeah, I still went I think forty three to

602
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: the to the Eagles. So and there's been some mixed

603
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: results how that's worked out for Philly. But Jeffrey Simmons,

604
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Speaker 1: I think somewhere twenty five to fifty. I don't think

605
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Speaker 1: he's gonna be there fifty eight. But I'm gonna I'm

606
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Speaker 1: gonna step out on a limb and say he's still

607
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: a first round pick. I wouldn't be shocked. And it'll

608
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Speaker 1: be it'll bring three, I'm right, Yeah, it'll be. It'll

609
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: be a Patriots type pick or maybe a you know,

610
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Speaker 1: a team with multiple picks, team that doesn't have a

611
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,719
Speaker 1: drastic need. It's just like, yeah, let's get this thirty one.

612
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: I think that makes some sense. Yeah, just a question here,

613
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: you're kind of switching things. Joseph asked off of periscope.

614
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: He said he's seen some second round projections for Nada,

615
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: the tight end from Georgia. It's possible. Is that possible? Possible?

616
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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's likely. Um, I think Irv

617
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: Smith's clearly your second round tight end. And then Sternberger

618
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Speaker 1: first round tight end Smith. Okay, that's what you're saying,

619
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Speaker 1: that top forty, he's gonna go somewhere on top forty.

620
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: I wonder if that's And I like Nada a lot.

621
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Speaker 1: You know, we talked about him Thursday. I sat down

622
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Speaker 1: and watched him for a couple hours on Friday, big fan.

623
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Speaker 1: I think he fits really well with what the Cowboys do.

624
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: Kevin Turner wrote a really nice right up on him

625
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: on Twitter or well on the Athletic but he was

626
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: promoting it on Twitter. Um. But I wonder if it's

627
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: one of those things where, like you know, Cowboys draft

628
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: hive mind, maybe he's overvalued in our minds because he

629
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Speaker 1: seems to fit with this team. Flicking player though he

630
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: is a lot to watch him. Is he a top

631
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Speaker 1: forty pick? I don't know. I don't know. I don't think.

632
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 1: I don't I have Sternberger over him, though, do yeah?

633
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: But but man, just gun gun to your head, do

634
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: you think? I know? Sorry, Like, if he's there at

635
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: fifty eight, I kind of I got to imagine there's

636
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: a better player also there. I think, so yeah, I

637
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,479
Speaker 1: have a third round great on Nada. I like him

638
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: a lot too, But you know, he just I like

639
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: him a lot. I don't think I like him, but

640
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: there goes there goes, there goes the thought of there

641
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: goes the thought of if you don't draft him at

642
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: fifty eight, you're not going to see him at Well,

643
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: that's that's the draft. I mean, no, no, but that's yeah,

644
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: he's not gonna last thirty two more picks. Exactly does

645
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: that make? That's not reason's worth picking over the not

646
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: reason over draft him. I'm just saying no, I'm a

647
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: big fan of his. If he you know, if they

648
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: drafted him, I wouldn't be upset. But I just think

649
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: there will be a better player there. Yeah, trade up

650
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: in the third round and go get him. Um, I

651
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: got one. Okay, this is a fun one. I got

652
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: one too. If you need one, Uh well here all right,

653
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: I'll go. Then you go our buddy Jonah Tolls. Yeah,

654
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: which in the scout the way y'all were talking up

655
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: Jowan Williams from Vanderbilt last week, he should pay attention. Well,

656
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: here we he wants to know who's better, who's the

657
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: better Williams, Jowan or Greedy? And he he thinks it's Juwan.

658
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: For whatever it's worth, I think Jowan definitely has better

659
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: upside um with what he could be because he's just

660
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: you don't see corners like Jowan william You don't. I

661
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: can't wait to take a picture of him at the combine.

662
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: I'm taking that. I can't pull that out. Yeah, and

663
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: pull that out as a drop. That guy he's physically

664
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: on tape. Oh my gosh, you're gonna stand next to

665
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: his podium like you did for Miles beaming with Yeah,

666
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: that's kind of a kind of creepy scout guy. And

667
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett came out. He just he looked like an

668
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: action figure. Yeah. By the way, DK Metcalf, you see

669
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: that picture, he needs to lose weight. Gonna say, that's

670
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: that's almost two much Boston Like maybe, well, very it's

671
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: very impressive, but yeah, but that's what I'm saying. David

672
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: Boston was a ninth overall pick. Yeah, so Greedy Williams

673
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: is commonly looked at as a top fifteen prospect. It's

674
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: third on my board, third overall hole no, no, no,

675
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: third of the third one. Okay, I was going to say,

676
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: I think Byron Murphy's a top guy, right, Yeah, who

677
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: do you have? Two? Hang on and we'll tell you

678
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: that Jowan Williams, Murphy Baker Williams, okay, DeAndre Baker. Yeah,

679
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: where does Jowan Williams follow on? He's a second round guy,

680
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: he's the next and then your sin and mulling. So

681
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: as much as you like him, you think that there's

682
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: a pretty clear gap between the two between Jowan and Greedy. Well, yeah,

683
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: because it's one's the first round. It's okay, admit it,

684
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: like you're not killing anybody, no, no, but it's like,

685
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: get off the fence. I'm trying not to be on

686
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: the fence. You know. When it's all said and done,

687
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: I bet you I end up shoving. I bet you

688
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: I shoved Williams up there in the first I bet

689
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: you I do. I'm a coward. The way you're gushing

690
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: about okay, well, he's probably gonna run off four or

691
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: five four. You know he's not gonna run really well.

692
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: Tape is so good people, Well it's it's good and bad.

693
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,280
Speaker 1: I mean, let's be you know. I think the traits,

694
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: the traits are what's really impressive with Joe on Williams. Yeah,

695
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: you watch the Georgia game. That's what sticks out in

696
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 1: my mind. That showed I thought a lot of the

697
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: good and a lot of the bad because he moves

698
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,439
Speaker 1: really well. He's a loose athlete. He's big and long,

699
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: but he also got beat deep. I mean, if he

700
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: takes a false step, he's done. He's totally. Yeah, but

701
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: he's got those he's got the length to like when

702
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: he's on the line. He's not in that they play

703
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 1: in that way if they play if the zone team.

704
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: And I don't mean to be like just he's not.

705
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: Actually everybody, yeah he's not. He's not. But I just

706
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: look at that guy and I'm thinking, And then there's

707
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: been some there's been some corners in this league or

708
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: guys that we've seen. If I remember that Utah kid

709
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: back in the day that was tall, it is probably

710
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: four years ago. Row, Yeah, that kind of the long,

711
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: big guy and you're like, oh, this guy's and then

712
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 1: and then he just busts. Cornerback is the position that

713
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 1: scares me the most, honestly, probably because I think it's

714
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: well other than quarterback. It's the hardest pisial football. Absolutely,

715
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: and like every year you've like become enamored with this

716
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: dude with you know, this huge wingspan and he's six two,

717
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: but he can run like a gazelle and then you

718
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: know he's just it's might never pissing to evaluate because

719
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: it's so fast. It's like a dance and it's you know,

720
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: the traits are one thing, the techniques another. Ball instincts.

721
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,399
Speaker 1: There's so many layers that go to making a good

722
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: corner I mean Greedy to me, I'd go with him

723
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: over Joe On Williams. But I mean they're both top

724
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: five corners in his class. Wouldn't shock me if they

725
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: go both in the first round? Um, you know, I

726
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: think this is a would be surprised. Would you be

727
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: surprised if Williams went above Greedy Williams in this draft?

728
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: Not completely shocked. I'd be surprised, not completely shocked. I

729
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: think I'd be surprised. Which it's always interesting just to

730
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: see how the narrative changes, Like when Colin when you know,

731
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: in October of the season, it was like, well, Greedy

732
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: Williams is a top five pick, and then so how

733
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: does how does the reality ape up to what the

734
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 1: narrative was. So like the narrative says Greedy is going

735
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: to be a top fifteen pick. So if another cornerback

736
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: were to go above him. That would be it would

737
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: be pretty surprising. What do you think about Baker from

738
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 1: Georgia Disappointed he pulled out of the Senior Bowl or

739
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: he didn't accept his his Senior Bowl invite. Um. I

740
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: thought he has a really just natural way of I

741
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: think reading and then making him play at the catch point,

742
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna see what he runs, because I don't think

743
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: he's you know, he's not a burner. He's not gonna

744
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: and I think you could say that about it, like

745
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,760
Speaker 1: all these quarters Byron Murphy. Yes, he's not an elite

746
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: size speed guy. You know, he just has tremendous quickness

747
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: and anticipation. The ball skills are outstanding. I think he's

748
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: like above average and everything except length, size, speed I'm

749
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 1: talking about Byron Murphy. Yeah, and then yeah, you could

750
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: say that. I mean DeAndre Baker's undersized a little bit.

751
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 1: I like Rocky a Sin a lot, Joe One Williams.

752
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: So each one of these guys you can poke holes

753
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:58,919
Speaker 1: in them. It just kind of depends on what type

754
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: of corner you're looking for and if you if you

755
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: really love Samuel Deebo Samuel from South Carolina, speaking of guys,

756
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 1: I'd take over Nada. Yeah, but don't watch, don't don't watch.

757
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: Don't watch the tape against Georgia. Don't watch that tape. Okay,

758
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 1: that's bad tape for him. I gotta tape for Samuel.

759
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 1: Put it that way real quick before we take this

760
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: break here. This is a it's a very it's a

761
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: very Cowboys center question, but it's a good question from

762
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: Wayne Um. It's a good point. The Cowboys always try

763
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: to address their biggest holes in free agency with minor

764
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: signings to free them up in the draft. What's that

765
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: position like if you know they're gonna make two or

766
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: you know, outside of resigning their own guys, they're gonna sign.

767
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: They're not gonna be needle moving signings most likely, but

768
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: they're gonna sign some guys just to give themselves freedom

769
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: in the draft. What position is that? Can? I can?

770
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: What do you got? Well? The problem is, though, what

771
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: I like a thirty one year old slot receiver that

772
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: can play inside and out? Who are you talking about

773
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: Golden tape? Ah? Okay, Okay, now that's interesting. I saw

774
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: you talking about that on Twitter. Yeah. Now, the thing

775
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: about it is, though Dane's told me that there's a

776
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 1: lot of slot players in this draft. There's a lot

777
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 1: of slot players in every draft. Yeah, but am I

778
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: am I willing to go out and say, Okay, I

779
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 1: can I can sign a Golden Tate that could play

780
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: slot and inside or some slot and outside, or can

781
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: I go and load up and try and get this

782
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: guy from the Great Northwest to come here and recruit him?

783
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: Now both, I can't do both. I just can do one.

784
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: Probably you probably can't do both. I can't do both.

785
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: I can only do one. Which one would you rather have?

786
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: That's what I'm asking right now. Boys, I'd rather have

787
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,280
Speaker 1: the safety. Yeah, I think that's easy to me. Okay,

788
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: if that's the case, then Dane, we're gonna see the

789
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: load up and talk about these players. That is a

790
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: step that is a step above what the Cowboys traditionally do.

791
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 1: And and hey, you can't you can't predict anything with certainty.

792
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: I definitely think that there are gonna be some Earl

793
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: Thomas conversations. There's gonna be some real Thomas conversations. But

794
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: that is it's gonna be a departure from what they've

795
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: done in the last It's to be about Earl comics,

796
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: to be about Earl Thomas, conversations of how much money. Yeah,

797
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,919
Speaker 1: they realized Earle Thomas is a really good football player,

798
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: knowing Rod Marinelli, and I'm you know, there's a million

799
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: people that are gonna hate what I'm about to say,

800
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: but I could see them signing like a veteran just

801
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: defensive tackle guy to get the job done. Yeah, I

802
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: just not meaning they wouldn't draft one, but just to

803
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: make sure they don't have to draft one. I'll tell

804
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: you what though, Man, this defensive tackle group is not bad. No,

805
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: it's really good, not bad at all. And that's where

806
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: I kind of again I'm starting, you know, when we've

807
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: talked about Williams and Oliver from Houston, Simmons, Wilkins from Clemson,

808
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: Jones from Ohio State. Tillery is a guy we mentioned,

809
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: Lawrence who knows Dexter. Lawrence from Clemson, who knows where

810
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: that that all is gonna where that one's gonna shake out?

811
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 1: Bugs from Alabama. I mean, it's a pretty deep list

812
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: of guys, okay, but just but can't you just see

813
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: him from Arizona State. It's another guy that we need

814
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: to mention. I'll be I'll be an, lets you Homer

815
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 1: for a second, just because He's the first name that

816
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 1: cropped up on my on my screen, like Benny Logan

817
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: is going to be a free agent. Yeah, couldn't you

818
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: see him just offering him a small deal just so

819
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 1: he's there so they don't have to get a defensive

820
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 1: tackle early in the draft. That's like exactly the type

821
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: of thing they like getting more that we have that

822
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: uh oh, the defensive tackle that we that got hurt

823
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: during the season. That why am I going? Brain did

824
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: I don't know? Or to Montree more he's been gone

825
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: for a year. I'm thinking of I hate when I

826
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: do this to myself. Ardy tackle. Yeah, there was a

827
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 1: defensive tackle that they really really liked. You're killing me, No,

828
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: look it up, I am, but anyway killing me? There

829
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 1: was god what more just a Tone Jones, daytone Jones.

830
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: Oh he didn't get hurt in the middle of the season.

831
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: He got hurt in training camp. Yeah, but Daytone Jones. Yeah, yeah,

832
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: he's still around. You can do that. See that's what

833
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I was more. It's I did that with him.

834
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: It's more Jones. I knew it was something like that.

835
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: Yeah that's all right. No, that's a good point, but

836
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: that that might be something that they do. But I'm

837
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: I'm if you, if you guys tell me I could

838
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: get her Earl Thomas, I just play safety. I'm gonna

839
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look at drafting a slot player. Then we

840
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: say it all the time, but like the conversation will

841
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Speaker 1: change because of free agency. Like you know, I'm driving

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Speaker 1: late third round, who is a combine snub, by the way,

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Speaker 1: do we need to take a break. We do need

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Speaker 1: scout this week, Ron Hughes. Now take a real quick

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Speaker 1: story about Ron Hughes. What kind of guy Ron Hughes was?

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921
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Speaker 1: timing and we're sitting there at the forty. Hughes his group,

922
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Speaker 1: he's with the Lions. He's lined up in front of us.

923
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Speaker 1: I think the Colts were behind us at the time.

924
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Speaker 1: So we're all lined up in our row in between players.

925
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: Hughes turns to his intern to his right, reach into

926
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927
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Speaker 1: and he says, hey, we need a hundred dollars worth

928
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Speaker 1: of Whitecastle hamburgers right now. So the kid took off,

929
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Speaker 1: still their time and players next thing. You know this kid,

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Speaker 1: You know those little white castle hamburgers were like biscuit burgers,

931
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Speaker 1: fifty cents a piece. Whitecastle like half whitecastle. When you

932
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: walk at the combine in Indianapolis, you ever had crystal

933
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Speaker 1: crystal whitecastle it's a bite sized burger. It's it's yeah slider, Yeah,

934
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: basically a slider Hughes. Hughes went into his pocket, gave

935
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Speaker 1: his kid one hundred dollar bill and came back. Kid

936
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Speaker 1: had boxes of hamburgers. And so all the scouts, we're

937
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 1: all up their time in forties, like clocks in one hand,

938
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: white castles in the other, just kind of munching away.

939
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Speaker 1: But you know, that was kind of the guy Ron

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Speaker 1: Hughes with He said, you know, I'm gonna buy lunch

941
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: for everybody up there at the timing stations and stuff.

942
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: The combine. So we lost one this week. Ron was

943
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Speaker 1: with the Pittsburgh Steelers, so h you know, rest in peace,

944
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: my friend. I appreciate everything you've ever done for me. Um. Okay,

945
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: you people on periscope, you know, I mean, I love

946
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: this periscope stuff, you really do. I think I love

947
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 1: the interaction. I love the interaction. Yeah okay, and it's

948
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,280
Speaker 1: like a j I think they're doing this right. As

949
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: his idea is Earl Thomason free agency defensive tackle, a

950
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: fifty eight penny heart in the third, running back in

951
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: the fourth, what about his plan or her plan? Honestly,

952
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Speaker 1: I love I love the plan, but it drives me

953
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: crazy when people do that, Like they create a grocery

954
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Speaker 1: list of like this, this is how you're gonna solve

955
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Speaker 1: you guys spatting down our fans. Well, what you don't predetermine?

956
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,439
Speaker 1: What is the tagline of the show. Yeah, oh yeah,

957
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 1: it's investigating energy. Like the whole reason we do this

958
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 1: is to open your mind up to as many possibilities

959
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: as possible so that you don't fixate on one thing,

960
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 1: so you're not sitting there like, it's gotta be Pennyhart

961
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 1: with pick number nine. Do we need to know their

962
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: third round pick? Do we know the number yet? I

963
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: don't think we even do we do, because like ninety one, yeah,

964
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: something like that. The earliest Camp pick is at the

965
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 1: end of the third round, so we do know it.

966
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 1: I just it's gotta be Pennyhart with pick No, it

967
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,800
Speaker 1: doesn't because what if what if an offensive tackle is

968
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: great and significantly higher than Pennyhart or and or right? Yeah,

969
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,800
Speaker 1: I mean no, yeah, Like I love the idea because

970
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: I do think they need a draft a running back. Sure,

971
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: I do think they need to draft a slot receiver.

972
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: I would love to have Earl Thomas on this team,

973
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: But to itemize it like that and set yourself up.

974
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: That's why, like seventy five percent of draft picks get

975
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: booed because dumb draft fans, not our fans, because our

976
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: fans are smart but dumb, hoping we're gonna qualify that

977
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Speaker 1: our fans are incredible, but dumb, dumb draft fans are like,

978
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: it's gotta be a d tackle or else it's a

979
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: wasted pick. No, how many And to be perfectly fair,

980
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 1: we had plenty of our own doubts about Layton vander

981
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: esh during the draft process, But how many people were

982
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 1: upset about that pick because it didn't hit like it

983
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: wasn't a wide receiver. It wasn't like it didn't hit

984
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 1: the perfect chord, you know, like it wasn't How could

985
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: they do that when we need a defensive tackle. Oh

986
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 1: he's in the Pro Bowl. Shut up, stop, Like that's

987
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: not how the draft works. So no, you're it. I

988
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: love the thought process and I would I would do

989
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: a backflip if they got a really good running back

990
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: in the fourth round, but I understand that it doesn't

991
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: always fall that way. Will you think about Bryce Love

992
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: and the fourth I'm here for it. I love there's

993
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: another one those knees, right, Yeah, that's don't do it

994
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: to take your risky pick in the fourth you're gonna

995
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 1: have two fourth round picks. No, I'll tell you what

996
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: Bryce Love to me when I first why, I felt

997
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: like Bryce Loves should have come out a junior year. Oh,

998
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 1: everywhere Bryce Sluck comes out his junior year, he might.

999
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: He might have been a high second round pick. You've

1000
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 1: been top fifty, yeah, top sixty. Yeah, there's no question.

1001
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 1: But this is a guy that loved college. He cared

1002
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 1: more about getting his degree than both of the NFL.

1003
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,879
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, if he could do it all over again,

1004
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,959
Speaker 1: he probably still goes back to school. Yeah, he doesn't

1005
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: leave early. Even though this senior year did not offensive

1006
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: line was terrible, the quarterback didn't help him out, he

1007
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 1: didn't have a great year, and then of course the injury.

1008
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:25,399
Speaker 1: Even if he had to redo it all over again,

1009
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: he probably would have just because that's the type of

1010
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: kid he is. But with that said, you get a

1011
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: two round discount, get him an elite fourth round this year.

1012
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 1: That's not a bad Uh. I have really good catcher,

1013
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:39,240
Speaker 1: really good runner. I have a few misgivings just because

1014
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 1: I mean, how do y'all feel about making him run

1015
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: between the tackles. I don't feel good about it. No,

1016
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: that's not his strength. Oh but no, but man, he's

1017
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: not afraid. No, McCaffrey, prove that, Mcca. The way the

1018
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 1: offense is, you have to be able to run through

1019
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: the tackles to play. I don't twee the tackles to

1020
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: play at Stanford. I don't worry about his willingness to

1021
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: do it. I worry about his durability. And I understand.

1022
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: I understand that you have Zeke, but he's still gonna

1023
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 1: have to be able to do it to be a

1024
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: well rounded backup. But I would still like if you

1025
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: could again, you know, we'll see what the compics are,

1026
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,760
Speaker 1: but like, if you could get him with pick number

1027
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: one thirty seven, yeah, yeah, I'm I'm way here for it.

1028
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 1: What position do you having the hardest to evaluate right now? Probably?

1029
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he would people sit down and really start

1030
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 1: digging in on these guys. What area are they gonna go?

1031
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I don't know where this direction this

1032
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: is gonna go. Yeah, the linebackers because there's just not

1033
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 1: that there's not that many. And then the ones at

1034
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: the top, you're kind of like you so if you

1035
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: need a linebacker, you're kind of slo Was that the well, yeah,

1036
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 1: Layton vander I should be the top linebacker in this draft. Yeah.

1037
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 1: I don't feel like that's a reach at all by

1038
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:54,240
Speaker 1: saying that, Um, you got the kid that's undersized at Michigan,

1039
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you love him, but again it's just

1040
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: he's undersized and that shows up. Um. Yeah, there's so

1041
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 1: much to like about Mac Wilson Alabama, but he just

1042
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:06,439
Speaker 1: the light bulb has to come on at some point

1043
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: for him, you know. It just he didn't show that

1044
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 1: development this year you wanted to see. And then after that,

1045
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 1: like I really like Jermaine Pratt from NC State, Yeah,

1046
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 1: really like gut to buy from Hawaii, but to buy

1047
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: from Hawaii is really good. Yeah. And so these guys

1048
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: are Day two picks and I think they can play

1049
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: in the league. But it's just not a really like

1050
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 1: I'm mapping out. I've been doing my top ten on

1051
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: the Athletic the last few weeks and I just posted

1052
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 1: pass rushers yesterday. Tomorrow will be defensive tackles, Monday will

1053
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: be linebackers, And I'm trying to narrow down. I mean,

1054
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: I have like my top nine. I'm just trying to

1055
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: figure out who that last guy is at a ten spot.

1056
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: It's just kind of tough because just trying to fill

1057
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,439
Speaker 1: these guys in because there's there's a lot of names,

1058
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: not a lot of talent. See that. That would scare

1059
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:47,399
Speaker 1: me a little bit if I'm as a team looking

1060
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 1: for a linebacker, which it should. Selfishly, I'm not worried

1061
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: about it because no, but I'm talking about all our

1062
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: brothers and sisters who are following other teams screw them.

1063
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: It's probably the sorry, my apologize. If we're going to

1064
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 1: rank the positions and this year's draft, I think linebackers

1065
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 1: probably at that bottom, if not at the very very bottom.

1066
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 1: They want to know about the linebacker from Notre Dame

1067
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: to von Coney. Yeah, I like him, I don't love

1068
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 1: him like other people do. I think he's he got

1069
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: better in coverage just past year, but I still have questions.

1070
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna a guy who's gonna be

1071
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 1: able to cover in man, especially so he's like a

1072
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 1: two down player. Maybe he is he six foot two thirty?

1073
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: Is he six foot two thirty two thirty? Yeah? Yeah, Um,

1074
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 1: but he's not a guy that I'm gona trust him

1075
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 1: third down. I mean, I there are other linebackers in

1076
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 1: this draft that I would rather have. And if we're

1077
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: talking about it, if you're looking for a three down guy,

1078
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: um to buy Pratt. Take both those guys as three

1079
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 1: down players over to von Kony And I think Coney's

1080
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: a solid, probably a third rounder because he I think

1081
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 1: he does a lot of things well, but I don't know.

1082
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 1: It's tough to get really excited about him. That's that's

1083
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a scary proposition. I mean, so

1084
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 1: what you got, Devin White, Devin Bush? Yeah, who am

1085
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: I forgetting mack Wilson. Mack Wilson to buy Pratty mentioned

1086
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: not trying to. I'm not trying to pat the cowboys

1087
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,399
Speaker 1: on the house. Joseph Kid from Florida, vander esh Pick

1088
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,359
Speaker 1: looks even better. Yeah, in the light of that fact,

1089
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 1: Joseph's too. You love the strengths, but the weaknesses you

1090
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:21,720
Speaker 1: really worry about. I mean, he's just he flies all

1091
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 1: over the field. You love that, but uh, he just

1092
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 1: he's over aggressive, false steps everywhere. Um, there's a lot

1093
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,479
Speaker 1: of things about him that you're optimistic, but you're also

1094
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 1: you're very cautious. If not safety then or not linebacker,

1095
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 1: then safety's a position that another I think it's better

1096
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 1: than linebacker, but another one where you have questions about

1097
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: some of these players. Yeah, love Adderlee. I think Thompson's,

1098
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 1: you know, not that top ten pick that you know

1099
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 1: we thought maybe initially in the beginning of the season

1100
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: when he got off to such a hot start, when

1101
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: you you know the full body of work and you

1102
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: watch his film and he's more of a late one,

1103
00:53:56,719 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: early two. I love Taylor rat He's a I think

1104
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a starting safety in this league for

1105
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 1: a long time, even though he might never make a

1106
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. Yeah, he's I don't think he's he's a

1107
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: good play right about that. But you know, Jonathan Abram

1108
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: on Thornhill, Um, we kind of talked about Thornhill and

1109
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: Abram last week, though, didn't we like, would you rather

1110
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: kind of a guy Abram Mississippi State safety. Right, he's

1111
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: a kid that's matured, working out. He's working out here.

1112
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 1: Michael Johnson McKinney. Yeah, Yeah, that's fun. Yeah, I mean

1113
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: he's married, he has a daughter. I mean he's Yeah,

1114
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 1: he's kind of an older gentleman of that locker room. Um, well,

1115
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,280
Speaker 1: I didn't fall in love with Hooker or with Belle

1116
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:39,879
Speaker 1: Hooker being from everyone in love with Hooker. Yeah yeah,

1117
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: he uh he he. I love the love these I

1118
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: love these exchanges. He loved the instincts like, but he's

1119
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: just not a premier athlete, Like he's almost like a

1120
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: he almost has linebacker athleticism. Yeah, you know, but I

1121
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: think he sees the field really well. I think he

1122
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: anticipates really well. He just he doesn't have that quick

1123
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 1: twit that you really want in a guy that is

1124
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:04,919
Speaker 1: going to be covered a slot or you're you want

1125
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 1: single high or so. I struggle with him as well.

1126
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you're not wrong the President of State kid

1127
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 1: as well, Mike Bell. I think they're both kind of

1128
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: in a similar range. That was a Twitter question that

1129
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 1: we didn't get to, but that conversation reminded me a

1130
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:23,399
Speaker 1: couple of minutes. It was along the lines of like, uh,

1131
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 1: you know, is safety a situation where if you don't

1132
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 1: get one early, is it worth trying to get one

1133
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: at all? Which I can't help but think about Xavier

1134
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:35,359
Speaker 1: Woods and how late you got him and how well

1135
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 1: he's played so I don't know. I don't know the

1136
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 1: third round grade on Xavier Woods. Yeah you did, But

1137
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,800
Speaker 1: is I mean, is there depth there? Like I remember

1138
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: saying that last that's a position. I mean, if you're

1139
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 1: not gonna I'm working through these defensive linemen right now.

1140
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 1: If you're not gonna get it in the second or

1141
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 1: third round, is it really better than what you already

1142
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: have on the roster. That's fair, Mike Evans Blair from Utah.

1143
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: Unless you're going for a pure upside kid that you

1144
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: want to develop, I think in terms of immediately play

1145
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 1: right now, make a big impact. Yeah, you're not wrong.

1146
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 1: If you don't get a guy in second or third round,

1147
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: you're not going to probably find him in the fourth.

1148
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 1: That's all the more reason if you're going to make

1149
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: a splashy free agent signing, all the more reason for

1150
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 1: it to be Earl, because I guarantee you we can

1151
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:22,240
Speaker 1: find a slot receiver on day three. Renfro Trey Quinn

1152
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: was mister irrelevant line exact, which I still can't wrap

1153
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: my head around. Yeah, you know, and Kent's got the

1154
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas video playing right now for you if you're

1155
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: watching along with us. That's the one thing that cat

1156
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: can do, he's around the football. Do you think this

1157
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: team would be open to a big slot receiver or

1158
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:42,760
Speaker 1: do you think they really Humphrey from Texas Little Jordana

1159
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 1: or do you think they really want that quick footed

1160
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 1: I can't say what they want right, but that's kind

1161
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:52,280
Speaker 1: of what I've been saying, is I'm over the idea

1162
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 1: that your slot has to be five eight. I mean,

1163
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley is great, he's a really good player, but

1164
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 1: like you know, again, what's easier for the quarterback to

1165
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: throw to the guy that has separation or the guy

1166
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 1: that's bigger that probably will have contested catches. You can't

1167
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 1: find a guy that can do both. And I'm saying

1168
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,399
Speaker 1: not that guy, but Jalen Herd from Baylor another one. Yeah,

1169
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,399
Speaker 1: that's another guy you need to look at. Juju Smith

1170
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 1: Schuster is technically a slot receiver, but he can do

1171
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 1: a lot more than no so it can Golden Tate.

1172
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 1: So why don't you go find that guy instead of

1173
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 1: a you know, I want a guy that can line

1174
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: up everywhere. If he winds up predominantly in the slot,

1175
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: that's great, but I want a guy who can do

1176
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 1: it all. What about the kid Doss from is it

1177
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 1: Cal poly or Cal Davis cal Davis? Uh yeah, just

1178
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: really really seasoned route runner like he used to get

1179
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: every slot guy. Is he kind of a uh yeah?

1180
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: I mean I don't see why he couldn't even ask

1181
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 1: you a question. I don't see why he couldn't he

1182
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,439
Speaker 1: but he's not gonna be a you know, a quick

1183
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 1: twitch guy. But at the same time, he understands how

1184
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 1: to manipulate defenders get their hips turned. So yeah, I

1185
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 1: think you can play in space and do that be

1186
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 1: just fine? Okay, that's a that's a question to get

1187
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 1: answered at the buying Yeah, when you're out at the

1188
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: bars or whatever. Absolutely, do we need to just be

1189
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 1: looking at the Hunter Renfro type receivers or do we

1190
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: need to have a wider net? Need to have a

1191
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: wider net there? So okay, hey, well that's about all

1192
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 1: the time we have today. I'm gonna just kind of

1193
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 1: talk through some things that we need to do next week.

1194
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Speaker 1: Our group is out of town on Thursday, being Dallas

1195
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Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com. And so we're gonna have the draft

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00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 1: show for you Friday, the Friday, next Friday, not Thursday,

1197
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Speaker 1: but next Friday. I'll tweet it out and kind of

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Speaker 1: follow along with all our accounts, and we'll make sure

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Speaker 1: you know about that at the time, probably eleven am

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Speaker 1: on Friday or maybe earlier. We'll figure it out, and

1201
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 1: then the next thing is we get the Combine, which

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Speaker 1: we'll be at in Indianapolis the following week. Shows will

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Speaker 1: the Draft Show, you'll have it Friday, and then five

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Speaker 1: days after that. So really excited about that, Really excited

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Speaker 1: what's ahead for the show. Really excited again to have

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Speaker 1: everybody involved the way we do. Thank you guys for

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Speaker 1: being a part of this. From Buddy's Day, Burger, David Helman,

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