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Speaker 1: This this one.

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live, presented by Calllida Health.

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Speaker 3: All right, how's everybody doing on a Tuesday? Chris Brown

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Speaker 3: Batty clab with you as Steve is still under the

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Speaker 3: weather a little bit. Uh, he'll hopefully be back tomorrow. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: because I'm traveling, so it's you and Steve tomorrow. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm sure he'll be good to go as he is. Uh,

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Speaker 3: he told us he is trending up, so hopefully that

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Speaker 3: continues to be the case and he's in here tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: We've got you. Get right to the Bill's practice updates,

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Speaker 3: which crossed late yesterday, and obviously injury reports are already

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Speaker 3: out because of the team playing on Thursday night. Just

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Speaker 3: to walk through yesterday, so this was an estimation of

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Speaker 3: player participation in practice and Bill's Practice Updates, presented by

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Speaker 3: Lee Coom your Lake Erie College of Osteopathic Medicine. Non

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Speaker 3: participants were Dalton Kincaid, Fdarien Mathis McCole Hardman, and Curtis Samuel. Hardman,

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Speaker 3: as we remember, left the game with a calf injury,

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Speaker 3: did not return, so that's why he was a non

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Speaker 3: participant Monday. Curtis Samuel neck and elbow injury, so We'll

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Speaker 3: have to see where that goes through the course of

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Speaker 3: the rest of this abbreviated week. Limited participation. Jordan Poyer

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Speaker 3: and Daikwon Jones they were veteran rest days. Everybody else

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Speaker 3: was limited with respective injuries that they've been nursing. Christian Benford,

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Speaker 3: Terrell Bernard, Taron Johnson, Dorian Williams, Joshua Palmer, Joey Bosa,

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Speaker 3: and Jordan Phillips. They've all been dealing with nix and

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Speaker 3: bumps that have forced them to miss some practice time

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Speaker 3: and in some cases some games as well, and on

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Speaker 3: a short week, you got to back off a little bit.

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Speaker 3: The good news is full participation for Shaq Thompson, who

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Speaker 3: looks like he's going to be finally able to return

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Speaker 3: to the lineup this coming week, which would be a

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Speaker 3: good thing because you know, Dorian Williams isn'te hundred percent

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Speaker 3: can at the very least lighten their load and maybe

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Speaker 3: they have some kind of a rotation there that we

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Speaker 3: often see at the defensive line. So I'm curious to

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Speaker 3: see how they worked.

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Speaker 4: That we talked about on the show yesterday. We talked

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Speaker 4: about the fact that Shaq Thompson has been out of

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Speaker 4: the lineup for a few games dealing with this hamstring injury,

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Speaker 4: and what Thompson has brought to the defense as a whole,

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Speaker 4: as his ability to stop the run, something that Buffalo's

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Speaker 4: defense has been missing out on a couple weeks. Does

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Speaker 4: one player solve the entire problem? No, but Thompson will

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Speaker 4: help the Buffalo Bills shore up that run defense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been there. I think it's I don't think

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Speaker 3: we're talking out of school to say he's been their

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Speaker 3: most consistent run defender on what has been a poor

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Speaker 3: be welcoming him back to the lineup with open arms.

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Speaker 3: There is news out of Houston concerning CJ. Stroud's status,

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Speaker 3: and we should tell you we're awaiting coach McDermott's press

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Speaker 3: conference here. It's going to begin any minute with an

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Speaker 3: update on the injured players, so be sure to stay

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Speaker 3: tuned for that. We will toss to that as soon

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Speaker 3: as he sits behind the microphone in the press conference

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Speaker 3: room here at One Bill's Drive. And that should be happening,

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Speaker 3: as I said momentarily, but There is news out of

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Speaker 3: the last two games at quarterback for the Texans due

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Speaker 3: to a concussion. He remains in concussion protocol here today,

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Speaker 3: but a couple of Houston Texans reporters DJBN on Me

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Speaker 3: and Jonathan Alexander are both reporting that Stroud is going

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Speaker 3: to practice today, presumably on a limited basis. But we'll

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Speaker 3: have to see. When you return to practice and you're

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Speaker 3: doing football related activities, it doesn't mean you have cleared

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Speaker 3: but practicing. So the widespread anticipation from the reporters down there,

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Speaker 3: Maddie is on a short week after missing two games

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Speaker 3: already and just getting back on the field in an

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Speaker 3: all your teammates just played on Sunday. They don't see

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Speaker 3: it likely that Stroud plays this week, more likely next

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Speaker 3: week when the team plays the Colts in a huge

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Speaker 3: division game, because the Texans are behind the Colts in

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Speaker 3: the division race. So the anticipation is, yep, get him

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Speaker 3: back on the practice field today, Let him get the

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Speaker 3: Davis Mills ready to start and play against the Bills

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Speaker 3: Thursday night. We'll see if their speculation proves correct. But

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Speaker 3: don't see a reason why we would doubt them.

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Speaker 4: Since the Bills don't have a definite answer at this

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Speaker 4: the Houston Texans, defensive coordinator Bobby Babbage said yesterday they're

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Speaker 4: preparing for both quarterbacks, which is challenging to do in

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Speaker 4: any type of week. It's even more challenging to do

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Speaker 3: Not enough hours in the day I do. Davis Mills,

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Speaker 3: by the way, is two to zero as a starter

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Speaker 3: So they haven't scored a ton of points with Stroud

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Speaker 3: Davis Mills has come up with a couple of nice

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Speaker 3: that last week in Tennessee. One thirty five left ty game,

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Speaker 3: held things in check the last couple of weeks, which

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Speaker 3: start through the first eight weeks of the season. But

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Speaker 3: coach McDermott is at the podium giving his remarks on

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Speaker 3: injury updates. So let's go there now.

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Speaker 5: All right, good afternoon, injury update here for you. So Dalton, Fredarian,

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Speaker 5: Mathis mccol Hardman, Curtis Samuel all will not practice today

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Speaker 5: and then the rest list I gave you yesterday is

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Speaker 5: pretty much unchanged in terms of that group of guys

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Speaker 5: who are limited today will be in a walk through setting.

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Speaker 5: So with that, I'll take your questions.

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Speaker 6: I don't how much for these short beat is more

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Speaker 6: in endurances, trying to take all the hours you've worked

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Speaker 6: much is it being smart about what things to not

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Speaker 5: Yeah, efficiency is critical, but also trying to be as

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Speaker 5: thorough as you can be, trying to kind of skinny

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Speaker 7: Is it easier to do these things when you've had

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Speaker 5: To doing it this year or eight eight plus years

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Speaker 5: of doing it? Yeah, I mean it's you get you

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Speaker 5: kind of get into a routine that you put into

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Speaker 5: you you try and just simplify the process and get

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Speaker 8: Yesterday, I think.

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Speaker 7: We didn't hear about Connor ahead of practice. Is that

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Speaker 7: something that popped up during the walk through?

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Speaker 9: Connor McGovern was limited yesterday.

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Speaker 3: We get to the defense, just have good rd from

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Speaker 3: your perspective.

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Speaker 5: The Texans defense, Yeah, very talented. They put together a

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Speaker 5: good defense with you know, different spots, critical positions as

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Speaker 5: The guys are playing well for him and Tamiko know's

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Speaker 5: a football coach, and he's he's had a good defense

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Speaker 5: there for you know, just about every year he's been there.

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Speaker 3: How much physicality physically they are.

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Speaker 7: On that side of the ball, stand out. Yeah, that's big.

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Speaker 5: I mean they got they got some guys that you

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Speaker 5: and so the front and the back end are working together.

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Speaker 9: Sean, when do you know that Cheryl Bernard could be

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Speaker 9: a captain of this team?

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Speaker 5: looking for in a in a captain is someone that

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Speaker 5: can captain the defense to begin with. Starting there is

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Speaker 5: an important facet of it.

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Speaker 1: And then.

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Speaker 5: In the respect that his teammates showed that they had

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Speaker 5: on the field. So those two go handing him.

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Speaker 9: How have you seen him grow in that capacity of

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Speaker 9: being a captain on the stand Well, it's leadership is important, right,

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Speaker 9: player driven leadership.

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Speaker 5: I've said that this million times over is really the

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Speaker 5: the team gets a lot of their direction from from

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Speaker 5: the leadership group and that's critical for us that they

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Speaker 5: lead by example. They lead with their voices as well,

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Speaker 5: important for us and influenced the team in a lot

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Speaker 10: Oh, granted that it's a short week, have you been

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Speaker 10: happy with how Keon has responded the last.

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Speaker 4: Couple of days.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, right now, it's called a day and

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Speaker 5: a half since game day, so I'm aware of how

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Speaker 5: as wins the trust, the trust builds, So that's that's

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Speaker 3: He's been an expectation gave would be elevated for Thursday,

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Speaker 3: and given the hell he more or less.

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Speaker 5: Some time, we'll see again, similar to Keon, one day

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Speaker 5: at a time, we'll see how how it all comes

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Speaker 5: together come Thursday night.

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Speaker 10: So On, what's been your message this week to the

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Speaker 10: team about kind of not riding that way about a rough.

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Speaker 7: Game, but two games ago, nice bounce back out for

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's important, you know, it's uh, it is important

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Speaker 5: every week, every day. You can't take it for granted, uh,

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Speaker 5: in life and also in this case NFL football. So

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Speaker 5: we've got work to do going out to the out

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Speaker 5: there to practice and nothing's going to be handed to us.

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Speaker 5: It's a good football team are playing, as you mentioned,

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Speaker 5: number one defense I believe in the NFL, and they've

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Speaker 5: got weapons on offense as well, So we're gonna have

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Speaker 5: our handsful. Sure, I see in this week they have

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Speaker 5: a Max and trade basically get roughly.

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Speaker 7: The same with those stacks.

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Speaker 11: Now, what have you seen those two in sort of

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Speaker 11: these different parts of their career.

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Speaker 7: Has handled that?

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Speaker 11: What have you seen for both of them in those roles?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, a very team oriented approach, I'm sure Trey, you know,

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Speaker 5: like anybody wants more reps. Max on the other hand,

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Speaker 5: a young player that is eager to get as many

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Speaker 5: So that's these players are here. They they love playing time,

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Speaker 5: all of them. There's not one of them is saying, hey, coach,

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Speaker 4: All my family members in Chicago are hoping that Aaron

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Speaker 3: was easy. He did not get into the specifics of

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Speaker 3: what was missed, but he said when they got back

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Speaker 3: in they kind of jumpstarted the offense and didn't hang

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Speaker 3: their heads for getting disciplined, So he said he appreciated that.

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Speaker 3: But this is like disciplinary Tuesday, like all the news

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Speaker 3: around the league, with the exception of Rogers injury deals

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Speaker 3: with disciplinary matters. Cincinnati Bengals wide receiver Jamar Chase got

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Speaker 3: suspended a game by the league without pay for spitting

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Speaker 3: on Steelers defensive back Jaylen Ramsey. Chase is appealing the suspension.

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Speaker 3: According to an ESPN report, the appeal will be heard

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Speaker 3: and ruled upon by one of their NFL PA and

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Speaker 3: NFL appointed reps. That's either going to be Derek Brooks,

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Speaker 3: Ramon Foster, or Jordy Nelson. They will be the hearing

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Speaker 3: one of those guys will be the hearing officer, and

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Speaker 3: if the suspension is upheld, Chase will miss the Bengals

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Speaker 3: game Sunday against New England, which I'm certain New England

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Speaker 3: is hoping for, because if you just have to worry

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Speaker 3: about t Higgins and not Higgins and Chase, your task

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Speaker 3: is that much easier. So we'll see how that is adjudicated,

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Speaker 3: maybe in the next day or so. We'll probably no

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Speaker 3: by Thursday or Friday where that stands, because he is

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Speaker 3: according to reports, and then there was a break in

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Speaker 3: at the home of Cleveland Brown's rookie quarterback should do

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Speaker 3: Or Sanders during Sunday's game against the Ravens. Sanders, who

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Speaker 3: as we know, is a fifth round pick, made his

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Speaker 3: NFL debut in the second half in place of an

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Speaker 3: injured Dylan Gabriel, who was placed in concussion protocol, and

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Speaker 3: according to multiple reports, it wasn't clear whether anything was

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Speaker 3: stolen from sanders residence. No suspects have been identified, but

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Speaker 3: this has happened like a handful of times now over

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Speaker 3: the last year plus. It's got to be really scary

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Speaker 3: for players, like, I'm away from my house and it's

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Speaker 3: going to get broken into because people are watching me

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Speaker 3: on a football field on TV. They know I'm not

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Speaker 3: at my home.

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Speaker 4: And usually it's unfortunately people are aware of where these

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Speaker 4: guys are living and they're whereabouts. It's on national television

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Speaker 4: that you're playing a football game that you won't be

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Speaker 4: at your house. And because of this, a lot of

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Speaker 4: players have had to hire their own personal security to

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Speaker 4: deal with these issues and to feel safe at home

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Speaker 4: and for their homes to feel safe when they're gone.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you've got Travis Kelcey on that list. Patrick

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Speaker 3: Mahomes had his house Joe Burrow into Joe Burrow. You're right. So,

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Speaker 3: I mean there have been some high profile players whose

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Speaker 3: residences have been broken into, stuff's been stolen. So there's

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Speaker 3: a whole bunch of stuff that has happened in the

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Speaker 3: last year plus, I want to say. And in some

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Speaker 3: cases it's like out of the country bandits, Like there

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Speaker 3: are people coming from like South America and other places.

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Speaker 3: They fly into the country, they've done surveill, they surveil

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Speaker 3: the houses for like two or three weeks, and then

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Speaker 3: they rob them, jump on a plane and get out

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Speaker 3: of the country again so that you can't catch them.

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Speaker 3: So it's it's really weird, I mean, and scary too.

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Speaker 3: I gotta believe for a lot of the players, because

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Speaker 3: you got to pay for extra security and make sure

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Speaker 3: somebody's watching your house where you have some high fallutine

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Speaker 3: home security system. I gotta want to I want to

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Speaker 3: see to what level home security systems can go because

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Speaker 3: these guys, you know, obviously have a lot of financial wherewithal.

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Speaker 3: I want to see if they you know, you're setting

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Speaker 3: up trip wires, you know, they pop up and they

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Speaker 3: trip the guy, catch him in a snare and home alone,

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Speaker 3: hung up on a tree by his leg. You know,

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Speaker 3: I want to see one of those kind of Yeah,

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Speaker 3: home alone exactly, That's exactly what I want. You know,

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Speaker 3: that'd be pretty good. Uh. We got to get to

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Speaker 3: from the Coach's Office, presented by c FBT Copyr Facts

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Speaker 3: Business Technology, the official office technology company of the Buffalo

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Speaker 3: Bills and Maddie. I think this is about balancing the

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Speaker 3: short week and prioritizing rest for the player bodies while

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Speaker 3: also having them fully prepared. But this is largely a

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Speaker 3: preparation week where you're really relying on your mental capabilities

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Speaker 3: more than you more than physically repping it you're gonna

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Speaker 3: have to mentally rep it and really get it this week.

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Speaker 4: Definitely, it's got to be tough for head coaches and

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Speaker 4: just coordinators as well going into a short week where

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Speaker 4: you want to see your guys out on the field practicing,

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Speaker 4: but you know, in a week like this, rest is

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Speaker 4: the number one priority. So as a head coach, you

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Speaker 4: must wrestle with that a little bit. I really want

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Speaker 4: to see my guys on the field practicing, but I

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Speaker 4: know rest is the number one priority. Maybe it's easy

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Speaker 4: in this building because injuries have just been so much

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Speaker 4: a part of the Bill story this season that it

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Speaker 4: is easy to prioritize rest on a week leading into

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Speaker 4: Thursday night football. But we spoke with offensive coordinator Joe

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Speaker 4: Brady and he said, you know, when I got the

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Speaker 4: advanced scout on the Texans yesterday, I was hoping to

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Speaker 4: hear something a little bit different, But what I was

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Speaker 4: met with was you're playing the best defense in the NFL,

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Speaker 4: and here's what they look like in all these categories.

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Speaker 3: So he was waiting on the weaknesses of the defense

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Speaker 3: and he said, we got to the end of the

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Speaker 3: list and weren't any. So he's a little disappointed that

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Speaker 3: there wasn't. It's never easy, as we know, but even

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Speaker 3: the young players on this roster have been through a

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Speaker 3: Thursday night routine, having done it back in week three,

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Speaker 3: I would imagine the bodies feel a little bit more

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Speaker 3: worn down here in week twelve than they did back

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Speaker 3: then in the end of September. So that is from

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Speaker 3: the Coach's Office, presented by CfBT copyr Facts Business Technology.

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Speaker 3: We will take a break here, but when we come back,

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Speaker 3: we'll have our friend Mitch Morse joining us for his

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Speaker 3: segment from the Armchair. We'll see what Mitch thought about

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Speaker 3: last week's performance and look ahead to Bill's Texans. Next.

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Speaker 3: Here on One Bill's Live, presented by Colid of Health,

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Speaker 3: it's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right back here on One

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Speaker 3: Bill's Live, Chris Brown here with you and set to

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Speaker 3: welcome in Former Bill Center Mitch Morse for his weekly segment,

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Speaker 3: which we've titled from the Armchair, presented by Raymore and Flannagan.

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Speaker 3: Raymore and Flannagan is a proud partner of the Buffalo Bills,

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Speaker 3: so we welcome in Buffalo Former Center Mitch Morse, also

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Speaker 3: the host of the Monday Mornings with Mitch podcast, Mitch,

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Speaker 3: always good to see you. A lot easier game to

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Speaker 3: stomach last week, although it was a ping pong match

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Speaker 3: for a while, or at least it seemed that way.

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Speaker 3: With as much as my head was turning back and

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Speaker 3: forth watching this thing go up and down the field

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Speaker 3: in both directions, what would you say, I mean, we'll

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Speaker 3: get into your nuts and bolts of this, but what

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Speaker 3: was the overriding like boulders for you with this performance

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Speaker 3: from the team?

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Speaker 8: Well, I think Chris early resiliency, right, It's definitely not.

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Speaker 8: I thought the defense had a great opening drive and

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Speaker 8: then of course the offense sputtered at probably the worst

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Speaker 8: place you can but another great defensive stout drive there.

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Speaker 8: It was fun, dude. I had a blast watching the game.

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Speaker 8: It was a celebration of football and Buffalo. I was

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Speaker 8: giddy and short and sweet, my friend. It was one

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Speaker 8: of those things that the stat line was insane. The

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Speaker 8: boys are partying. I mean, Josh had one of those

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Speaker 8: incredible games that a lot of players just only dreamed

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Speaker 8: for once in a lifetime. And this is the second

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Speaker 8: time he's put something like that together. So I'll tell

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Speaker 8: you what as even more than a cat, more than

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Speaker 8: a as a casual fan, Chris, I had a blast

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Speaker 8: watching that game there.

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Speaker 3: Baby, Yeah, it was fun, just as fun as a call,

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Speaker 3: I assure you. But let's get to some of the

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Speaker 3: nuts and bolts that you pulled out of this one.

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Speaker 3: We saw Jordan Poyer get a lot of playing time.

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Speaker 3: He's kind of factored in more and more here and

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Speaker 3: I have a second part of this question that I'll

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Speaker 3: ask you after this, But Poyer was a factor in

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Speaker 3: the run front. On the inside. The problem was all

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Speaker 3: those big runs got to the edge and on the outside.

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Speaker 3: That's where Tampa kind of made their hay in the

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Speaker 3: run game. But Jordan was pretty productive on Sunday, Chris.

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Speaker 8: We were talking earlier off screen that our hairlines are

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Speaker 8: a testament that father Time was a cruel, cruel mistress.

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Speaker 8: And going into season thirteen, I thought Jordan Poyer able

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Speaker 8: to turn back the hands of time. Yes, what you

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Speaker 8: alluded to, some of those tackles were in the second

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Speaker 8: and third level, and sometimes you don't want to see

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Speaker 8: your safety leading the team in those tackles. But I'll

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Speaker 8: tell you what, it wasn't all in the secondary. He

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Speaker 8: was filling holes. He was making open field tackles. I

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Speaker 8: mean fifteen tackles, seven solo tackles ten in the first half, Chris,

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Speaker 8: that's what you want out of a guy who's done

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Speaker 8: it for a while. The guy that she brought in

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Speaker 8: is who knows what they expected him to be. But

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Speaker 8: he is plugged in beautifully. He's hitting his stride at

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Speaker 8: the perfect time, and it just felt right as a

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Speaker 8: Bills fan and as a next player to see number

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Speaker 8: twenty one Jordan Poyer out there just throwing his body around,

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Speaker 8: letting the Holy Spirit take over and taking a few

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Speaker 8: souls while he was going after it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So here's the second part of this question, because

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Speaker 3: it looks like the defensive staff is doing their best

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Speaker 3: to strike a balance here. They clearly know that Jordan Poyer,

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Speaker 3: at age thirty four, is not the player he was

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Speaker 3: in his prime. And often you'll, i shouldn't say often,

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Speaker 3: at times you will see Jordan Hancock, the rookie, replace

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Speaker 3: him in the lineup and on obvious passing downs because

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Speaker 3: presumably he covers more ground in coverage than Jordan does

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Speaker 3: at this stage of his career. And he's also out

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Speaker 3: there at times during two minute drill when opposing offenses

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Speaker 3: are usually throwing more. How put your coaching head on

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Speaker 3: for me and just tell me the balance you're trying

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Speaker 3: to strike there. Because Poyer obviously is a veteran, you

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Speaker 3: trust him implicitly. You know he's gonna get guys lined

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Speaker 3: up pre snap, he's not gonna get fooled by things.

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, you want to get youth

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Speaker 3: and athleticism on the field so you can cover more

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Speaker 3: ground and cover more of the field defensively. How do

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Speaker 3: you balance that out?

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Speaker 8: Well, there's a reason why don't coach Chris because I

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Speaker 8: have no idea. I will tell you something right, like,

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Speaker 8: he got whatever was in his cup, a little bit

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Speaker 8: of Benjamin Button juice, Jordan Poyer drinking, and he is

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Speaker 8: a remarkable not only presence physically on the field, but

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Speaker 8: as that spiritual and emotional leader. I think youth, I

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Speaker 8: mean a spade of spade. Right, we're all depreciating assets,

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Speaker 8: especially in this league. It's exacerbated. You drive us off

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Speaker 8: a lot, our value immediately goes down. But you could

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Speaker 8: have fooled me this past Sunday, Chris. And that's a

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Speaker 8: great question. I'm not even gonna pretend like I know

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Speaker 8: how to answer it, pal, because these coaches know better

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Speaker 8: than we do. All I know is that it was

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Speaker 8: a spark that these fellas needed having Jordan out there,

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Speaker 8: and God bless them for doing it.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's talk return game here, because the Bills

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Speaker 3: came into this game they were near the bottom of

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Speaker 3: the league in average drive start and that's not all

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Speaker 3: on kick and punt return we know that, but they

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Speaker 3: were down near the bottom of the league an average

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Speaker 3: drive start, and the average was their own twenty eight

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Speaker 3: yard line. You get to the end of this game

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Speaker 3: and it's their own thirty seven, which may not sound

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Speaker 3: like a big difference to fans listening to this, but

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Speaker 3: that is a giant jump. And at the end of

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Speaker 3: the day they have seven three more total kick return

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Speaker 3: yards than the Bucks, who had the same number of

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Speaker 3: kick returns six and six. And that's that hidden yardage

653
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Speaker 3: that I know Coach McDermott talks about all the time.

654
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Speaker 3: What did you make of the return game?

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Speaker 8: Well, special teams is the thing that's often thought forgotten

656
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Speaker 8: about until it becomes something. It's become a hot button

657
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Speaker 8: topic around the Buffalo Bills. You got a guy like

658
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Speaker 8: first of all, Mkole Hartman. I know he put the

659
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Speaker 8: ball on the ground that one time, but setting the

660
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Speaker 8: tone with that sixty one yard return, and he got

661
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Speaker 8: a guy like Ray Davis who averaged what shoot, almost

662
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Speaker 8: forty yards per return, having one hundred and fifty eight

663
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Speaker 8: yards of returning total. It adds some juice. Look at

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Speaker 8: these guys firing on block in. Of course, it's not

665
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Speaker 8: a one man show, but the energy it brings, right

666
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Speaker 8: you're running on the field as an offensive lineman or

667
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Speaker 8: an offensive player. Of course, like the closer yard of

668
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Speaker 8: that fifty yard line is a beautiful thing, but the

669
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Speaker 8: juice that you kind of are, it's kind of a

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Speaker 8: piggybacking off of as those guys are partying off the

671
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Speaker 8: sideline after doing something really remarkable. It's palpable. Man, It's

672
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Speaker 8: a tangible thing that you can kind of garner and

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Speaker 8: make it into something one of those drives. I thought

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Speaker 8: it was an awesome deal and something that I hopefully

675
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Speaker 8: has celebrated a little bit this week. I know it's

676
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Speaker 8: a short week, but hopefully they can also piggyback off

677
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Speaker 8: that and bring to this you know, really going to

678
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Speaker 8: be a tight game in Houston.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's like Steve always says, you know, if

680
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Speaker 3: you can give your offensive drive start at the forty

681
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Speaker 3: instead of the thirty. That's one less first down they

682
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Speaker 3: got to get, so it makes a difference. Passing game

683
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Speaker 3: obviously was off the charts, some off script plays and look,

684
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Speaker 3: I'm all for rainbow moonshots down the field, but this

685
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Speaker 3: team also showed if you just get some of their

686
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Speaker 3: skill guys in space, they can be home run hitters

687
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Speaker 3: for you and you don't have to throw a low

688
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Speaker 3: percentage ball forty yards down the field.

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Speaker 8: No Chris. Of course, those high flyers are super sad, see,

690
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Speaker 8: especially if you kind of hammer those in the end zone.

691
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Speaker 8: We had one or two of those, I can think

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Speaker 8: of the Tyrol Shavers one, but you had four guys

693
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Speaker 8: that averaged over twenty yards to catch, and then you

694
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Speaker 8: had another guy who had forty yards over four catches

695
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Speaker 8: or something like that. With Gabe Davis, who was I

696
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 8: mean talk about an energy setter. You could just see

697
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Speaker 8: what that meant to those guys. And of course, selfishly

698
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Speaker 8: is one of my best friends. To see him go

699
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Speaker 8: out there and do his thing. Josh was mobile in

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Speaker 8: the pocket. The Fellas protected their tails off. Yes, those

701
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Speaker 8: are two interceptions, but you live by the sword you

702
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Speaker 8: die by the sword. This team showed that it was

703
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Speaker 8: multiple that they could of course kill you on the ground,

704
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Speaker 8: but then you have three hundred and something yards in

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Speaker 8: the air, and then you guys guys like Ty Johnson

706
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Speaker 8: who catches that ball goes for it, and they have

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Speaker 8: receivers blocking their tails off Dawson, Knox, Curtis, Samuel Shavers

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Speaker 8: down the field. Khalil Shakir has become one of the

709
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Speaker 8: great run blockers at that receiver position in the NFL.

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Speaker 8: It's just fun to see in it, and I think

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Speaker 8: it was a statement to the NFL that said, yes,

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Speaker 8: Buffalo loves to run the full ball. They love to

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Speaker 8: be under center, but if they want to, they can

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Speaker 8: take the top off. And now it's something you got

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Speaker 8: to study and it's going to set up everything else

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Speaker 8: around it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because that was going to be my next question

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Speaker 3: with Houston coming up this week. Obviously, we've already discussed

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Speaker 3: this briefly. You know, number one in points allowed, number

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Speaker 3: one total defense, their top five almost literally across the

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Speaker 3: board in every defensive category you could possibly come up with.

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Speaker 3: When they see this on film, I almost inherently feel

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Speaker 3: like it forces them to play the run maybe more

724
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Speaker 3: honestly than they might have had they not seen this

725
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Speaker 3: performance leading up to their game. Would you agree with that?

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Speaker 8: Totally agree? Another thing we're going to talk, call spade

727
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Speaker 8: a spade. This is a nasty ass defense, Chris. I

728
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 8: was in that division last year and it's no fun playing.

729
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 8: They're an exceptional football club, inspired especially on defense, and

730
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Speaker 8: they've held their opponents to in those last four wins

731
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Speaker 8: one hundred yards or less. I think two or three

732
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Speaker 8: of them fifty yards are less running. I still think

733
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Speaker 8: this is the bread and butter of the offense for Buffalo.

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Speaker 8: But you'd have watched this film, Chris. To your point,

735
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Speaker 8: you have to respect what you saw, and it just

736
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Speaker 8: gives someone something to think about. Even if it's that

737
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Speaker 8: split second. I mean that split second in the NFL

738
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Speaker 8: means the world. It means a few extra yards, it

739
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Speaker 8: means undisciplined eyes. I think it's the exact thing they

740
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Speaker 8: needed on a short week against a really stout defense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Last thing before we let you go, you mentioned

742
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Speaker 3: your tight relationship with Gabe Davis, and he revealed after

743
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Speaker 3: the game because people were asking him, you know, the

744
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 3: long road back from his knee injury, and he was

745
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,879
Speaker 3: talking about how he not only had a fully torn

746
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Speaker 3: meniscus that need to be repaired, but he also had

747
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Speaker 3: a torn pcl that he had to come back from,

748
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Speaker 3: and he left you guys down in Jacksonville after Week ten,

749
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Speaker 3: never returned the rest of the season, and then it

750
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Speaker 3: took him almost ten weeks this season just to get back.

751
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Speaker 3: I think we all know what a diligent knows to

752
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Speaker 3: the grindstone type of work ethic that Gabe has, But

753
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Speaker 3: do you think this chest kind of provides somewhat of

754
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Speaker 3: a peek into everything that a player with a major

755
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Speaker 3: injury has to go through. Good days, bad days, long

756
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Speaker 3: days just to get back on the field and be

757
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Speaker 3: cleared medically to play a game.

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Speaker 8: Yes, Chris coming back from injury is not only arduous

759
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 8: physically on the mind, it's complete warfare and seeing what

760
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Speaker 8: Gabe had to go through, especially a peak through the

761
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Speaker 8: lens last year when it actually happened, knowing the extent,

762
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Speaker 8: but also knowing who he is. He loves football. Football

763
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Speaker 8: means so much to him. He's a grinder. He's one

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Speaker 8: of those guys that he thrives through work, he thrives

765
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Speaker 8: through being there for his teammates. For being a good teammate,

766
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Speaker 8: and to finally see him be able to celebrate all

767
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Speaker 8: that hard work and quietly shouldering this right like we

768
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 8: just you know, the media just learned about the extent

769
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Speaker 8: of this whole injury, and his tight group has known

770
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Speaker 8: about it for a while. So that just shows a

771
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Speaker 8: peek into who he is as a competitor, as a teammate,

772
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Speaker 8: as a friend. And you could tell that it meant

773
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Speaker 8: something that for him to be on the field. You

774
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 8: could see that that was a great avenue for Josh

775
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Speaker 8: for those few times, and what it did for you

776
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Speaker 8: see a guy like Spencer Brown in mid game while

777
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Speaker 8: he's being miked up, just all these guys, it was

778
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Speaker 8: such a celebration. I'm just happy as hell for the dude.

779
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Speaker 8: And that's a completely selfish take. I think he's going

780
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Speaker 8: to be a great addition to this team in the

781
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 8: back half of the season. I hope we get to

782
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Speaker 8: see him celebrated more throughout these next few weeks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you could see it, like every play

784
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 3: that he made, his teammates were really quick to dap

785
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 3: him up or pat him on a helmet or whatever.

786
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Speaker 3: Like I mean, everybody kind of gets welcomed in with

787
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Speaker 3: open arms when they get here. But it was just

788
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Speaker 3: a little bit different, obviously because of the past history

789
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Speaker 3: and everything. Just to see him doing it again in

790
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Speaker 3: a Bill's uniform clearly brought some joy to his new

791
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 3: and old teammates again here. So it was really cool

792
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 3: to see that. And if he can do more going

793
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Speaker 3: down this, yeah, all pluses.

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Speaker 8: What a privilege, man, What a privilege to be his teammate,

795
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Speaker 8: What a privilege to see him on the field again, dude,

796
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Speaker 8: it was. It fired me up. I know, I talk

797
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 8: about that all the time. I was planned watching this thing,

798
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 8: hooting and horror and looking like an absolute insane person.

799
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Speaker 8: But he deserves it, man, he really does.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. All right, Well, hopefully we don't have to bite

801
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,919
Speaker 3: our fingernails too much on Thursday night, and we'll catch

802
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 3: up with you next week. Mitch. Appreciate the time.

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Speaker 8: God bless you, Chris, take it easy, buddy.

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Speaker 3: All right. That is from the armchair presented by Raymore

805
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 3: and Flanagan. And so we make a weekly visit with

806
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 3: Mitch Morse for him to give us his thoughts on

807
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,399
Speaker 3: the last performance by the Bills and maybe even take

808
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 3: a look ahead. And you heard Mitch say it himself,

809
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 3: this is an A plus Houston Texans defense, and they're

810
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 3: even more dangerous in their own building when they have

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Speaker 3: the crowd noise helping them, especially on the pass rush,

812
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 3: making life difficult where they got to go silent cadence

813
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 3: on offense, and I would anticipate that Josh and the

814
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 3: crew are going to have to do that for almost

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Speaker 3: the entire game on Thursday night. We got to take

816
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Speaker 3: a break here, but when we get back, we're gonna

817
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Speaker 3: get to our topic of discussion today and open the

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Speaker 3: phone lines to you at ATO three oh five fifty

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Speaker 3: one eight eight five fifty two five point fifty. What

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00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 3: is your level of confidence in the Bills offense against

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Speaker 3: the number one defense in the league on the road

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Speaker 3: Thursday night, Open lines for you at ATO three oh

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Speaker 3: five to fifty your calls next here on one. Bill's

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Speaker 3: Live Game Day mentality is presented by Best Self Behavioral Health,

825
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Speaker 3: official mental health partner of the Buffalo Bills, and this

826
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Speaker 3: one is really a battle of wills. Short week for

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Speaker 3: both teams. Texans were on the road, so they had

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Speaker 3: to travel after their game back from Tennessee to Houston,

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Speaker 3: and the Bills will obviously be traveling tomorrow. But these

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Speaker 3: games really are a battle of wills because your body

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Speaker 3: does not want to do what your mind is asking

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Speaker 3: it to because it still hurts from last week's game,

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Speaker 3: and now you have to overcome that with your own

834
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Speaker 3: mental strength. And it's like Sean mcdermotty, his players sometimes

835
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Speaker 3: make them quit, make the Texans quit before you do,

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Speaker 3: assert your will and your execution on that team and

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Speaker 3: make them want to quit because they don't think they

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Speaker 3: can beat you. Now, that's hard to do down in Houston,

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Speaker 3: and we'll talk more about that as we start taking

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Speaker 3: your phone calls, because that defense really does a great

841
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 3: job of holding their team in football games on the

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Speaker 3: scoreboard when their offense gets off to a slow start,

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Speaker 3: which has been somewhat of a persistent problem for them

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Speaker 3: in recent weeks. And even with CJ. Stroud back on

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Speaker 3: the practice field today, the widespread assumption is he's not

846
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Speaker 3: going to get back in time to start on a

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Speaker 3: short week on a Thursday night when his team essentially

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Speaker 3: is not practicing at full speed in any capacity. So

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Speaker 3: to reestablish the timing in the passing game with Stroud

850
00:43:56,040 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 3: and his receivers seems like a tall a big ass,

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Speaker 3: So I would tend to think they would stay with

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Speaker 3: the quarterback who's been in the lineup the last two

853
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Speaker 3: weeks in Davis Mills. But we'll see. We'll see if

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Speaker 3: Stroud clears concussion protocol. But that's part of the game

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Speaker 3: day mentality presented by Best Self Behavioral Health. Let's get

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Speaker 3: to the phone calls at eight O three zero, five

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Speaker 3: point fifty one eighty eight, five point fifty two, five

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Speaker 3: fifty those are the numbers to join us. Got a

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Speaker 3: couple open lines for you there as our topic of

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Speaker 3: discussion is what is your level of confidence in the

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Speaker 3: Bills offense against the number one defense on the road.

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Speaker 3: We lead off with Tom on the west side. What's

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Speaker 3: up Tom?

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Speaker 1: Hey, Chris, Uh, listen. Prior to the season, I think

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Speaker 1: we're talking about the AFC schedule and you were asking

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Speaker 1: who we're going to be our toughest opponents, and I

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Speaker 1: said I wasn't really worried too much about but I

868
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Speaker 1: did say that I was worried about the Houston game

869
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: because they always play us tough, and that was a

870
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Speaker 1: road game, so you might i'd have been talking about

871
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Speaker 1: the road games. I don't know. I don't remember and

872
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Speaker 1: then I said Atlanta. I said Atlanta might be a

873
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: tough out, and I was right about Atlanta. But I

874
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,439
Speaker 1: also thought we'd beat New England and I didn't think

875
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Speaker 1: we'd mose to Carolina. So I mean, so far I

876
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: thought I was batt in a thousand, But the more

877
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: I thought about it, anyway, to get to the point,

878
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 1: I feel a whole lot better about the Bills this

879
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Speaker 1: week after what I saw last week. Now you keep

880
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: talking about the run defense for Houston, why don't you

881
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: talk about their passing defense a little bit so we

882
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: can get an idea of what's going on there. Don't

883
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: they have Stingley?

884
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, they got Stingley and Kamari Lassiter are two

885
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 3: high draft choices. I know Stingley was a first round pick.

886
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 3: I believe Lassiter was a second round pick. And those

887
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 3: guys are playing good on the outside. You know, their

888
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 3: nickel corner is a little bang up right now, so

889
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 3: we'll have to see where that goes. Jalen Petrie, who's

890
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 3: the safety by trade but athletic enough to play nickel,

891
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 3: is usually their starting nickel, but he's been kind of

892
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 3: nicked up and he's limited in practice this week, so

893
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 3: if he can't go, it'll be Miles Bryant, who's a

894
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 3: former Patriots sub package player. But all in all, they're

895
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Speaker 3: the number three pass defense in football. They're number three

896
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,760
Speaker 3: and third down defense, So they're just as good against

897
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Speaker 3: the pass as they are against the run. And you

898
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 3: heard coach McDermott say it earlier in the first hour

899
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 3: the show that it's largely predicated on the fact that

900
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 3: they have a plus corners that can cover, and they

901
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 3: have a plus pass rushers and Will Anderson and Daniel Hunter,

902
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 3: who between the two of them have seventeen sacks, one

903
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 3: has nine, the other has eight, and in their building

904
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 3: they are even more lethal. I mean, I don't think

905
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 3: I have to remind too many Bills fans that that

906
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 3: was the game last year where Josh looked a little

907
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 3: scattershot because of the pressure that was coming at him

908
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 3: on a consistent basis. So they can dial up the

909
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 3: pressure and they have good cover guys on the back end.

910
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,720
Speaker 3: You hear Sean McDermott talk all the time about marrying

911
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 3: the rush with the coverage. This team does it better

912
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 3: than anybody in football. So the passing game that we

913
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 3: saw last week, I think they're gonna be hard pressed

914
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 3: to be that productive. I'm not saying the Bills aren't

915
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 3: gonna get theirs against this Houston defense, but it's gonna

916
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 3: be a slog the entire way, just because of the

917
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Speaker 3: way this Houston defense is capable of suffocating you. Let's

918
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Speaker 3: go to Mike in Syracuse next.

919
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Speaker 14: What's up, Mike, Hi, Chris, how are you good? As

920
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 14: Maddie still with you too?

921
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 3: She is not at this point, She's got to go

922
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Speaker 3: cover practice.

923
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Speaker 14: I want, I want to explode her. I I think

924
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 14: I have a pretty good, pretty good confidence in our offense.

925
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Speaker 14: I mean, I hope that their confidence is boosted after

926
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:57,720
Speaker 14: having a good game last week. My major confidence boost,

927
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Speaker 14: I guess, does kind of come from Gabe Davis, just

928
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Speaker 14: because I think he brings a little bit better, slash

929
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Speaker 14: different aspect to the offense. It's good to have him

930
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Speaker 14: back and glad he played well. And basically just because

931
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Speaker 14: I think he's a big, physical receiver. He's not afraid

932
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Speaker 14: to get his hands dirty and really mix it up

933
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 14: with guys in order to get open. I think he

934
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Speaker 14: brings a better aspect to the offense than Kean Coleman

935
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Speaker 14: does at this point, because I don't think Kean as

936
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Speaker 14: is as physical as Gabe and doesn't.

937
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Speaker 3: I don't know.

938
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Speaker 14: Sometimes I still feel as though Kean is a little

939
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 14: has a little bit of a rookie aspect to him,

940
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 14: because he he did have some injuries and he hasn't

941
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Speaker 14: played a ton. This is the first year that he's

942
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 14: he's seen a lot of playing time, and I think

943
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Speaker 14: maybe he's still just trying to figure out what it

944
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 14: takes to be a pro because he's up against guys

945
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Speaker 14: that are as physical as him and are as good

946
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Speaker 14: as him, and he needs to try to figure out

947
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Speaker 14: how to beat them. And I think Gab already has

948
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 14: that figured out, even though he hasn't seen a lot

949
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Speaker 14: of playing time in the last couple of years. That's

950
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Speaker 14: that's just my take on it. And I you know,

951
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Speaker 14: I think we're in for a tough game. I hope

952
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Speaker 14: that we play a little bit more conservatively because I

953
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Speaker 14: do think that if if Josh Goa was kind of

954
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 14: wild like you did in against the Bucks, I do

955
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 14: feel like the Texas Houston Texans defense will make us

956
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 14: pay if we turn the ball over too much. I

957
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 14: really do. So I'm looking for more of a game

958
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Speaker 14: like maybe we had against the Chiefs where we're productive

959
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 14: but a little more conservative. Gonna have to protect the ball.

960
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 14: That's all I got in gold bills and thanks a lot,

961
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Speaker 14: Chris Michael.

962
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Speaker 3: Thanks Mike. I think you're on the money with respect

963
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 3: to the approach game plan wise, I think it is

964
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Speaker 3: going to look similar to the Chiefs game plan because

965
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 3: I think they know they're going to have to get

966
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 3: the ball out of Josh's hands quickly, and it was

967
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 3: evident that they wanted to do that against the Chiefs.

968
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 3: Chiefs were like bearing up to stop the run, and

969
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:58,720
Speaker 3: basically the game plan was to use a short passing

970
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 3: game to mimic the run game and get yards that way,

971
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Speaker 3: whether they were using Shakir at the line of scrimmage

972
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 3: with those tunnel screens or other throws to the flat.

973
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Speaker 3: Maybe they can reincorporate the backs again this week like

974
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 3: they did last week. But I think you're gonna have

975
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Speaker 3: to get the ball out of Josh's hands quickly, knowing

976
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 3: how fierce this pass rush can be from Houston. With

977
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Speaker 3: regard to Gabe Davis, I think there are areas where

978
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 3: he is superior to key On Coleman at this stage

979
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 3: in Coleman's career. If Coleman realizes all his potential, he

980
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 3: might end up being a better overall receiver than Gabe.

981
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Speaker 3: But that is not the case right now. And I

982
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 3: think Gabe is a monster in the run game two

983
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 3: as a blocker. So if you want to get the

984
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 3: run game going and you need blocking downfield, you can

985
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 3: rely upon Gabe and you know what you're going to

986
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 3: get from him in that area of the game. So

987
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 3: it's a twofold thing. One, Josh clearly trusts him in

988
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 3: the passing game. All you need to do is look

989
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 3: at that fourth and fourth that he converted for him

990
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 3: to know how much he trusts Gabe. And then second,

991
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 3: he is a physical press as a blocker in the

992
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 3: run game, and you know, in another week where you

993
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 3: may not have Kincaid and you may not go as

994
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 3: much thirteen personnel as you typically do, he could be

995
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,720
Speaker 3: a valuable asset in that regard. We are up against

996
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 3: the break though, got to take a break here. When

997
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Speaker 3: we come back our number two, we'll begin with our

998
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 3: good friend Dan Orlofsky ESPN NFL analysts. We're going to

999
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 3: talk to him about last week's performance and how the

1000
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 3: passing game came alive and about just what Buffalo's offense

1001
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 3: is in for with this number one Texans defense. Dan

1002
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,399
Speaker 3: Orlofsky coming your way next. Here on One Bill's Live,

1003
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 3: presented by Kill Out of Health, It's Buffalo Bills.

1004
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Speaker 2: Radio these one Bills Live presented by Kalida Health.

1005
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Speaker 3: All Right, our number two on a Tuesday, which on

1006
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Speaker 3: a short week for the Bills is like us Wednesday

1007
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 3: Thursday already, but here to talk about the last game

1008
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 3: and the game coming up in a hurry. Here as

1009
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 3: ESPN NFL analyst Dan Orlowski, whose appearances on One Bills

1010
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 3: Live are presented by Caesar's Sportsbook and official mobile sports

1011
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 3: betting partner of the Buffalo Bills. And Dan, we saw

1012
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 3: it once before, shockingly in a loss. But it was

1013
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 3: a Josh Allen six pack on Sunday, three rushing, three passing.

1014
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 3: I've said it before, I've said it on air. He

1015
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 3: is the Michael Jordan of the NFL. Nobody scores points

1016
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,959
Speaker 3: like Josh Allen maybe in the history of the game.

1017
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 15: M It was a vintage performance. It was a superman

1018
00:52:59,440 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 15: like performing.

1019
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 5: You know.

1020
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 15: We often talk about Josh over the years and in

1021
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 15: many ways complain at times that he's putting on the

1022
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 15: hero cape, putting on the hero Ball Superman cape, and

1023
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 15: trying to do it himself. And the reality was this

1024
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 15: is just where this team is right now, and it

1025
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 15: certainly was this past weekend that he had to be

1026
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 15: that person. Couldn't have started worse. You know, back to

1027
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 15: back of kind of the same pressures Tampa brings to him,

1028
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 15: and he has just a horrific interception and you know,

1029
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 15: he obviously is mentally tough enough to realize move on

1030
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:34,280
Speaker 15: long game and just started to distribute it really well. Obviously,

1031
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 15: the playmaking in the red zone was a big deal.

1032
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,240
Speaker 15: That he did something that I know you've been begging

1033
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,720
Speaker 15: for and getting the backs a little bit more involved

1034
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 15: in the past game. Early down play action was huge.

1035
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 7: Early down. I can't say that enough.

1036
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 15: Early down play action has to become a calling card

1037
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 15: for this football team. And I want to give credit

1038
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 15: for some of those and I'm calling them role players,

1039
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 15: but in a respectful way. You know, some of the

1040
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 15: role players the Ty Johnson's, the Dawston knox Is, the Shavers.

1041
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 15: I mean, these guys stepped up and played really big

1042
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 15: time games. And if we're gonna sit here and wax

1043
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 15: poetic about Josh's performance. I also believe we have to

1044
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,479
Speaker 15: talk about the offensive line. It's a very good run

1045
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 15: defense in Tampa. They didn't dominate in the run game,

1046
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,359
Speaker 15: but they had some really crucial runs in that fourth quarter,

1047
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 15: and the protection was fantastic. And so you know, that

1048
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 15: offensive line looked like that unit that we've seen over

1049
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 15: the past couple of seasons.

1050
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 3: All right, just one more thing about Josh's individual game.

1051
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 3: First of all, if you didn't hear his press conference

1052
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 3: after the game, on that interception shovel pass, he said

1053
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 3: it was his fault. He set the protection the wrong way,

1054
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 3: which is why Dennis.

1055
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 7: Comes back to that plays. He did it right up

1056
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 7: the middle.

1057
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 3: But in any event, we were talking to him after

1058
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 3: the game about the first touchdown, which is obviously an

1059
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 3: off the script play. Chucks it down the field practically

1060
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 3: from the far hash to the far left corner of

1061
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 3: the end zone, where Shavers makes a more difficult catch

1062
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 3: than people realize for a forty three yard touchdown. But

1063
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Speaker 3: Josh in review the play. I say this all the time, Dan,

1064
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 3: He's one of the most self aware quarterbacks I have

1065
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 3: ever been around, and this was proof of it. Talking

1066
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 3: about the first touchdown to Shavers and he says, yeah,

1067
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 3: I had progression one open, should have thrown it to him. Correct,

1068
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,240
Speaker 3: I had progression two open, should have thrown it to him.

1069
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 3: And yet he's still he's the victim. I think of

1070
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 3: his own competitive nature where he wants more and so

1071
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 3: then he makes it work. How does a coach deal

1072
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,800
Speaker 3: with that? To tell him to play with instructure of

1073
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 3: an offense when that's the end result. You know, you

1074
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 3: can't live that way and win football games. But when

1075
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 3: he does that, how do you handle him as a coach?

1076
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Speaker 7: Yeah?

1077
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Speaker 15: I mean Matthew Stafford was so much like that in

1078
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:46,240
Speaker 15: probably the part of his career that Josh is right now,

1079
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Speaker 15: that late single digits years. And I was with Matthew

1080
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 15: at that time, and you know, there was this emphasis coach.

1081
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 15: Jim Caldwell was the coach and Jim Bob Cooter was there,

1082
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,399
Speaker 15: and there was this emphasis of really trying to hone

1083
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 15: in on a kind of what you're talking about is

1084
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 15: being more completion driven, being more focused on taking profit,

1085
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:05,280
Speaker 15: getting that number one.

1086
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:06,879
Speaker 7: If number one is, they're taking it.

1087
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 15: And it took Matthew years to get to there because

1088
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 15: Matthew and rightfully. So Josh is probably the same way

1089
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 15: as sitting there going yeah, but you know there's Yes,

1090
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 15: I know that there's six yards right there, but I

1091
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 15: think I can get fifteen and but I think I

1092
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 15: can create something for forty and so I think that situationally,

1093
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,760
Speaker 15: it becomes a huge part of the conversation of Okay,

1094
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 15: who are we playing against? Who are we Are you

1095
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 15: doing that against? Maybe the Broncos defensive front that is

1096
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,800
Speaker 15: just unbelievable in their pass rush?

1097
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 7: Probably not?

1098
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,720
Speaker 15: Can you do it against the Tampa that doesn't excel

1099
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 15: in the pass rush game?

1100
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 7: Maybe?

1101
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 15: Are you playing against the high powered offense with a

1102
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 15: defense that you know still is struggling. Yes, So realizing

1103
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 15: that you know second and five ain't going to necessarily

1104
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,919
Speaker 15: cut it, touchdowns and points are And so I think

1105
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,959
Speaker 15: that all comes in from the coaching perspective of what's

1106
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 15: the philosophy going into the game.

1107
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 7: How do we believe we have to play in this

1108
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:06,240
Speaker 7: game to win versus this team?

1109
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 15: And you also have to know at some points it's

1110
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 15: gonna bite you, right, it's going to produce a negative,

1111
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 15: and more often than not, you trust the player that

1112
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 15: it's going to produce the positive. And I think Josh

1113
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 15: has no question warranted.

1114
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 3: That you touched on it. Right at the top, the

1115
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 3: backs getting involved in the passing game, and look, I

1116
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 3: know a lot of people believe that this is a

1117
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 3: receiving corps that has limitations, but you have two running

1118
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 3: backs in Ty Johnson and James Cook who are potential

1119
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 3: home run hitters in the open field. So you look

1120
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 3: at the stat line at the end of this game,

1121
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 3: those two combined for five catches, one hundred and twenty

1122
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 3: seven yards and two touchdowns. That's an alpha male number

1123
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 3: one X receiver stat line. I'm not saying they're going

1124
00:57:56,560 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 3: to give you that every week, but knowing that capability exists,

1125
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 3: how much can those two guys, specifically with their open

1126
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 3: field elusiveness and breakaway speed, diversify this passing game to

1127
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 3: make it more functional week to week and produce.

1128
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 15: Yeah, the screen game that they were part of, and

1129
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 15: I'm even putting Cookies down in the red zone as

1130
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 15: a screen because it's almost a gadget, it was huge.

1131
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 15: I think that the way that that can help them. Okay, one,

1132
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 15: you're talking about touches for different people, So now as

1133
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 15: a defense, you're honing in on less central focused people.

1134
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 15: You can't necessarily build plans for certain levels. Two, you're

1135
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 15: creating different ways to create numbers advantages on offense. If

1136
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 15: you look at a lot of the screens that they had,

1137
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 15: or even Cooks down the red zone, it was a

1138
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:49,439
Speaker 15: numbers advantage. Three, you're spreading the defense horizontally, which you love.

1139
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 15: You're trying to force defenses to be horizontal invertical. That

1140
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 15: would be only the only Devil's advocate caveat I would say,

1141
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 15: Chris still is when those guys are doing that. And again,

1142
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 15: I know Cooks is down there and it's a little

1143
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 15: bit of a vertical stretch, but you can still as

1144
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 15: a defense play closer to the ball. Now, again you're

1145
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 15: getting spread out horizontally with that stuff, but you can

1146
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 15: still play a little closer to the ball. So it's

1147
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 15: an important part. You're not gonna get seventy five yarders

1148
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 15: with thirty seconds to go in a half more likely

1149
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 15: and then the quick turnaround touchdown to Cook. But I

1150
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 15: do think that if you sit there and go those

1151
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 15: two guys, indifferent of how many times we're handing it

1152
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 15: off to them, can we get them those five to seven,

1153
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 15: five to eight catches a game in the on the

1154
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 15: perimeter that give us. You know Mike McDonald who is

1155
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 15: the defensive coordinator and head coach for Seattle, and he

1156
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 15: calls him cheap yards, And if we're being honest, that's

1157
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 15: kind of what they are as far as what's needed

1158
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 15: from a talent perspective at the quarterback spot. And so

1159
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 15: if you can give those guys touches to create cheap

1160
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 15: yards for your offense, yeah, it's huge. And the butterfly

1161
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 15: effect of what that could do to a defense when

1162
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 15: it comes to forcing them to run and tackle in space,

1163
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 15: it's a big deal.

1164
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 3: Let's flip it to the Texans here, and obviously the

1165
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 3: headliner is their defense. I mean, top five virtually across

1166
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 3: the board in any defensive statistical category you can think of,

1167
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 3: including number one in points allowed, number one in total defense,

1168
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 3: number one in yards per pass play allowed. Everything else

1169
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 3: is two threes and fours. It's insanity. And in that building,

1170
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 3: I think they're even more lethal because it is one

1171
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 3: of the loudest stadiums I've ever been in, and when

1172
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 3: the roof is closed, it's even worse. And that obviously

1173
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 3: puts challenges on the offense with silent count and such.

1174
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 3: There's no way Josh and some of those offscript things

1175
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 3: that I was just talking to you about that is

1176
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 3: off limits this week. I'm envisioning, and you tell me

1177
01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 3: what you think. I'm envisioning. An offense have approached similar

1178
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 3: to what we saw in the Kansas City game where

1179
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 3: they made a concerted effort to get the ball out

1180
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:08,919
Speaker 3: of Josh's hands quickly. That just seems one oh one

1181
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 3: type stuff. I've never been a play caller, but it's like,

1182
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 3: oh my god, you better do that with his crew.

1183
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1184
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 15: Yeah, The last thing you want to do is hold

1185
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 15: the football versus this defensive front. Will Anderson is playing

1186
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 15: as good as any defensive linemen and football, both in

1187
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 15: the run game and the pass game. Chris, He's been

1188
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 15: just the word I would use, destructive. He destroys everything.

1189
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 15: Daniel Hunter has been unbelievable in the pass rush game.

1190
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 15: Their interior defensive line has been great. The linebackers, I

1191
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 15: called them the quickest twitch linebackers in football. They are downhill,

1192
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 15: they are downhill, and I think it's the best ballhawking

1193
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 15: secondary in football. You know, you don't feel comfortable as

1194
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 15: a quarterback passing throwing the ball against this secondary.

1195
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 7: If you're off, it's going to get picked off.

1196
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 15: It's not a PBu And so yeah, you don't efficiency.

1197
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 15: You're not going to get confused. They're not going to

1198
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 15: try to over stick. They're gonna line up and play

1199
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 15: their game and try to absolutely embarrass you physically.

1200
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 7: You gotta get the batter hands quickly.

1201
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:09,480
Speaker 15: You gotta be willing to run the football in between

1202
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 15: the tackles at them. Their linebackers are downhill and they're fast,

1203
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 15: but they're not massive.

1204
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 7: So this is a duo game. In their run game, it's.

1205
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 15: Putting Gilliam on the field, it's putting the tight ends

1206
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 15: on the field.

1207
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 7: It's a duo game. You want double teams. You don't

1208
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 7: want single blocks for these guys up front.

1209
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 15: As respectful as I can be with this offensive line

1210
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 15: in Buffalo, it's a different unit. And defensively in the

1211
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 15: front seven, I think you want to move the pocket

1212
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 15: as much as you can. There's two things that I

1213
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 15: think are if you watch this defense play, because initially

1214
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 15: I'm like Chris.

1215
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 7: Play action and play action them.

1216
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 15: They know that because their backers are so downhill, they

1217
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 15: know that they have the tails of your offensive line.

1218
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 15: If your offensive line doesn't really sell run. They're not

1219
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 15: buying it. Okay, they're just too well coach, they're head

1220
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 15: coach is a linebacker.

1221
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 7: Okay.

1222
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 15: So the two things that if you watch that have

1223
01:02:56,760 --> 01:03:00,959
Speaker 15: been successful. Three things been successful against this defense this year.

1224
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 15: Number one Tempo Tempo has calmed this defense down a

1225
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 15: little bit.

1226
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:07,479
Speaker 7: When it comes to vines.

1227
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 15: You have to get a first down, though you can't

1228
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 15: do it to start a drive. Once you get a

1229
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 15: first down, I go tempo.

1230
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 3: Okay.

1231
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 15: The second thing is Josh has to take off early

1232
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 15: in downs. This is a defense that it distributes in

1233
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 15: their pass coverage quickly.

1234
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 7: It's a zone, but they match.

1235
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 15: So what I'm saying is like, yes, they have area

1236
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 15: of responsibility, but you come near them, that's your guy.

1237
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 7: You got to take off as a runner quickly for Josh.

1238
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 7: And it may not be for twenty but five is

1239
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 7: a huge, huge, huge deal.

1240
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 15: And you just you remember this from last year the

1241
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 15: Denver game. Denver when they played them, just kept taking

1242
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 15: shots down at the safeties. They didn't hit many of them.

1243
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 15: They hit like three, and it won them the game.

1244
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 15: You have to take shots at these safeties and to

1245
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:52,920
Speaker 15: win you have to hit.

1246
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, the one area where they have been subpar, which

1247
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 3: I don't know. It doesn't compute for me, but I

1248
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 3: guess I'll watch some games and try to figure this

1249
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 3: one out. They're twenty eighth in red zone defense. That

1250
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:10,439
Speaker 3: is startling to me, knowing how effective their pass rush

1251
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 3: is and in a confined area of the field, what

1252
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 3: is going on there? Are they giving up runs there

1253
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 3: or what's happening now?

1254
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:18,959
Speaker 7: What's happened is down there.

1255
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 15: I think it re establishes to the quarterbacks that they're

1256
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 15: playing play fast because red zone spacing shunk down and again,

1257
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 15: being a zone defense, I'm not telling you that they're

1258
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 15: giving you completions, but if you play quickly and your

1259
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 15: decision making the ball comes out of your hands, you

1260
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 15: can get then some completions down there and you're not

1261
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 15: holding it. It's that re emphasis of you cannot hold

1262
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 15: the football versus this defense. And then if you get

1263
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 15: into some condensed splits because of the way they want

1264
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 15: to play what we call red four, that you'll create

1265
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 15: some leverage where you can put safeties in buyings, on

1266
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 15: double seams, double posts, you can stem release and get

1267
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 15: a free access throw to the perimeter. It's not easy,

1268
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 15: but if you play quick and on time, you can

1269
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 15: have some success down there. It's where they're most vulnerable

1270
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 15: because their defensive line doesn't necessarily in the past game

1271
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 15: get to dominate.

1272
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 3: Okay, and then quickly before I let you go, just

1273
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 3: the up and down nature of their offense, chiefly in

1274
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 3: scoring output. I mean, I'll just read you the last

1275
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 3: six game scoring output forty four in a win against Baltimore,

1276
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 3: nineteen in a loss to Seattle, twenty six in a

1277
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 3: win over San Fran fifteen and a loss to Denver,

1278
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 3: thirty six to Jacksonville and a win, and then sixteen

1279
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 3: last week in a last second, two minute drive to

1280
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 3: beat Tennessee on the road. I mean, I know Davis

1281
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 3: Mills is kind of triaging this offense right now in

1282
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 3: for CJ. Stroud, And even though Stroud is practicing today,

1283
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 3: there's not a lot of confidence on a short week

1284
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 3: without any full scale practice that they'll be able to

1285
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 3: get the timing they need in the passing game to

1286
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 3: get him up to speed. What should they anticipate from

1287
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 3: this Houston offense if Mills is starting here.

1288
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 15: Yeah, their offense, I would tell you, actually has been

1289
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 15: better than the first half of the season. And it

1290
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 15: starts with their offensive line. That was the massive question

1291
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 15: mark coming into this season.

1292
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 7: It started very poor. It's improved. It's not elite, it's improved.

1293
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 15: They are a team that will take their sixth tackle

1294
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Speaker 15: put them on the line of scrimmage as a tight end,

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Speaker 15: and it's helped them in their run game.

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Speaker 7: They've got a dynamic back.

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Speaker 15: At rookie named Woody Marx who's become their feature back

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Speaker 15: with no Chubb excuse me, no Joe Mixon and Chubb

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Speaker 15: kind of up and down.

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Speaker 7: Now, Woody Marks.

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Speaker 15: Is explosive and I know Buffalo didn't see him last week,

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Speaker 15: but he has a little bit of a Bucky Irving

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01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 15: in his game for Tampa, just sudden, quick, twitchy. So

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Speaker 15: they're willing now to put that sixth offensive lineman and

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01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 15: just try to be better in the run game they

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01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 15: have been. Nico Collins is still one of the best

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01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 15: receivers in football. Schultz is one of the best tight

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Speaker 15: ends in football. Schultz on outbreakers, Schultz Dalton Show is

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Speaker 15: going run ten outbreakers. Okay, they just want to he

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Speaker 15: chase his leverage outbreaker. That's been a staple of those

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Speaker 15: one of the things that's been paramount for them. It's

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Speaker 15: been huge for them is the emergence of their rookie

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Speaker 15: receiver Jaden Higgins, who's the second round draft pick out

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Speaker 15: of Iowa State. Big frame, six three two point fifteen,

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Speaker 15: good route runner, great with his body. He's a very

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01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 15: good contest. So they got two guys now Chris on

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Speaker 15: the outside contested catchwise, that.

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Speaker 7: Are really good using their body.

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Speaker 15: And so I think if you're Buffalo defensively, you're not

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01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 15: going to see an overly intricate scheme six offensive line

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01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 15: run game. They're going to try to create those one

1322
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 15: on ones to those big frame receivers Schultz on outbreakers,

1323
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 15: and they're moving the quarterback a lot in their keeper game.

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Speaker 15: You'll see it six or seven times. So try to

1325
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 15: make them one dimensional. You know, you know they're not

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01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 15: using motion a ton, but this defense struggles right now

1327
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 15: with motion run man goodness. So but those two receivers

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01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 15: you got to clamp on, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, Dan, appreciate the inside as always. Well, see how

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01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 3: this one plays out. I think it's going to be

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01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 3: a rock fight, but we'll find out. We'll find out Thursday.

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Speaker 7: Good game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks, Dan, appreciate the time as always. That's dan Orlowski,

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01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 3: ESPNNFL analyst, joining us as he does every week on

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01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:18,639
Speaker 3: Tuesdays and his appearances presented by Caesar Sportsbook. I want

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01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 3: to hit a couple of phone calls before we get

1337
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 3: to the break here. As we've been asking you today,

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01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:25,559
Speaker 3: what is your level of confidence in this Bill's offense,

1339
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 3: knowing they're going against the number one defense in football

1340
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 3: on the road, eight oh three five point fifty is

1341
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 3: the number to jump on board. We go to Mark

1342
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:35,720
Speaker 3: in West senecon X. What's up Mark?

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01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 16: Hey, Chris. As far as your question goes, I believe

1344
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 16: this gap falls directly on the shoulders is Joe Brady.

1345
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 16: I don't think we can out talent, out leverage these

1346
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 16: guys in any way, shape or form. So we're going

1347
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:55,479
Speaker 16: to have to have a real good offensive scheme this

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01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 16: week and come up with maybe a few unusual plays

1349
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:02,599
Speaker 16: that we haven't in the past in order to beat

1350
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 16: these guys. And I had a question Employe about the defense.

1351
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 16: With the continuous emergence of Cole Bishop and obviously you're

1352
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:16,600
Speaker 16: bringing Harston on board with a first round pick, do

1353
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 16: you think the Bills are starting to maybe lean towards

1354
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 16: more often not all the time traditional four three four look,

1355
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 16: because we can play man the man coverage on the

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01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 16: back end a little bit more often than we've been

1357
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 16: able to do in the past, because Cole is showing

1358
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 16: that he's pretty athletic, and he's starting to play faster

1359
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 16: and faster every week knowing that he knows the defense now.

1360
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:48,280
Speaker 16: And obviously Harston is a very talented guy. So and

1361
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 16: I'll also I love Taron Johnson, but he's starting to

1362
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 16: get older now. So I'm really curious that they might

1363
01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 16: be leaning that way and maybe pick a linebacker first

1364
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 16: overall next year and go to a four three four.

1365
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:03,840
Speaker 16: I'm just curious with that thought.

1366
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, thanks. First, on your Joe Brady point, While

1367
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:11,679
Speaker 3: I want to believe that Joe Brady has a bag

1368
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 3: of tricks that he can turn to, I think those

1369
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:20,640
Speaker 3: are harder to utilize, get implemented, and execute on a

1370
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 3: short week. The general mo of most coaches is to

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01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:28,639
Speaker 3: not overload players on a short week because their bodies

1372
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 3: are already struggling to recover with a lot of mentally

1373
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 3: taxing stuff as well, and so in a week where

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01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 3: you might need some tricks up your sleeve against the

1375
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 3: defense that you just heard Dan talk about say they

1376
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:44,880
Speaker 3: don't try to fool you, they just line up and play.

1377
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 3: A short week favors the Texans defense because it's based

1378
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:55,800
Speaker 3: largely on elite talent, not scheme. So how intricate and

1379
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:58,640
Speaker 3: complex can Joe Brady get in a short week I

1380
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:02,559
Speaker 3: don't know, so, so I'm curious to see how they

1381
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:06,120
Speaker 3: choose to run things offensively to try to get the

1382
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 3: best of what is an elitely talented and gifted group

1383
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 3: for Houston. And then as for the defense, I was

1384
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 3: saying it a month ago, the Bills are gonna have

1385
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:24,800
Speaker 3: to draft one, probably two linebackers, and fortunately for the Bills,

1386
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 3: it is a great linebacker draft. I think it's probably

1387
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 3: relatively it's not outlandish to assume that Matt Mulano, after

1388
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 3: his contract is up at the end of the year,

1389
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:39,720
Speaker 3: won't be back next year. I think Shaq Thompson is

1390
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:42,600
Speaker 3: a question mark in his tenth NFL season, although they

1391
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 3: would probably bring him back in some capacity based on

1392
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:47,840
Speaker 3: how he's played when he's been in the lineup, but

1393
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:51,680
Speaker 3: he's miss timed with a chronic hamstring injury. And then Bernard,

1394
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:55,480
Speaker 3: they're obviously committed to him long term. With the extension.

1395
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 3: But if you draft an A plus middle linebacker, could

1396
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 3: you then shift him to the week side. I think

1397
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Speaker 3: that's a consideration. So in a very good linebacker draft,

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01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:10,599
Speaker 3: I would expect them to draft one early and late

1399
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 3: just for depth purposes alone, knowing who you have the

1400
01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:19,520
Speaker 3: potential to lose and be off your roster in the offseason.

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01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 3: And then as for a four to three four I'm

1402
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 3: not going to pretend to know where the league is

1403
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 3: definitively heading in terms of what your front is, what

1404
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 3: your front seven is, but I can tell you that

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01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:35,760
Speaker 3: the Bills this year have played more base defense than

1406
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:38,800
Speaker 3: they have in the last four years. I haven't checked

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01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:40,599
Speaker 3: for a few weeks now, but I checked a few

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01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:43,320
Speaker 3: weeks back, and they were at about twenty seven to

1409
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:46,759
Speaker 3: twenty eight percent base defense. And this is a defense

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01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 3: that two years ago was ninety five to ninety seven percent.

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01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 3: Nickel Tarren Johnson never came off the field and now

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01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 3: he does. And they even play, you know, more dime

1413
01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:01,400
Speaker 3: the last couple of years too. So with the exception

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01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:04,439
Speaker 3: of the second Miami game when the Bills were almost

1415
01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 3: exclusively and I think exclusively in nickel and dime the

1416
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:09,760
Speaker 3: whole game defensively and got chewed up because of it.

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01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 3: I think it convinced them that they have to play

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01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:14,760
Speaker 3: with a third linebacker on the field with all the

1419
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:17,679
Speaker 3: trouble they have stopping the run. So I would expect

1420
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 3: that to be around twenty seven to twenty eight percent

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01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 3: of the time they've got three linebackers on the field.

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Speaker 3: Got to take a break here. When we come back,

1423
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 3: we'll try to get to some phone calls. But it's

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01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:32,640
Speaker 3: the latest edition of the Tailgate Tag Along, and we

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01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:34,600
Speaker 3: had a special one this past week. Some of the

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01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:36,559
Speaker 3: best food I have ever eaten. We'll tell you about

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Speaker 3: it next here on One Bill's Live, presented by Colta

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Speaker 3: Health and s Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, we're here

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01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:50,839
Speaker 3: for episode six of the Tailgate tag Along and Steve's

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01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:53,120
Speaker 3: under the weather. So I got Jen Markham helping me out,

1431
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:56,519
Speaker 3: Resident Bills fan and YouTube phenom. Are you ready to

1432
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 3: try some stuff?

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01:13:57,240 --> 01:13:59,640
Speaker 13: I was gonna say, I'm Steve Tasker, but I'm going

1434
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 13: to say, do you know.

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01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,680
Speaker 3: How to block punts? That would be pretty impressive. Does

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01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:04,880
Speaker 3: he still uh? If you can get him out on

1437
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 3: the backyard? Yeah, maybe a little bit?

1438
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 13: Said he's sick because I want to see that.

1439
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 3: We got to roll out. We got a couple of

1440
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 3: tailgates to hit. So you're a bridget. Nice to meet you,

1441
01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 3: Chris Brown, how are you? This is jen Markham. She's

1442
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 3: a huge Bills fan in one of our biggest influencers.

1443
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:22,639
Speaker 3: You can check her out on YouTube.

1444
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 17: It first Ladyilificates, Oh, Lady tail certificates.

1445
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 3: Look at this. I will make sure Steve sut this.

1446
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 3: Look at this. I got a certificate just for showing up.

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01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 13: First Lady Tailgate. That is that's outstanding next to the

1448
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 13: Lady tailgate.

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01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:41,600
Speaker 17: Like my cousins and my an are all here. We

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01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 17: usually celebrate my cousin's birthday and she's forty today.

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01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:50,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, so what is what's on the menu today? I heard,

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01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 3: I know there's shortcake. We're going to get to that.

1453
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:58,720
Speaker 3: There's Oh yeah, I heard. Yes these Pete made it,

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01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 3: Pete shot. Okay, what do we got going on here?

1455
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:05,800
Speaker 3: These are brea tacos? Okay, yes, yes, yes, and yes

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01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 3: yeah with a capital Y capital eat good. It takes

1457
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 3: a couple of hours or days to make. So is

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01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:14,800
Speaker 3: this like barbecue beef for how do you It's just

1459
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 3: shredded beef.

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01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 10: It's almost like stew like uh yeah, like you braize

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01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:22,519
Speaker 10: it basically in the oven all day and it just

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01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 10: falls apart like this, and then you cheese and this

1463
01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 10: is this is this.

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01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:30,600
Speaker 3: Is like legit, like we're bringing the real stuff to

1465
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:31,879
Speaker 3: prepare the food properly.

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01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:34,559
Speaker 3: Well no, I never doubted you for a second, but

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01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:36,679
Speaker 3: this is great. What do you think, jalous?

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01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:37,599
Speaker 13: It looks really good.

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01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:39,479
Speaker 3: Have you ever had a perria taco?

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01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 13: I don't know.

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01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 3: I remember I was out with the San Diego billsbackers

1473
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 3: back when the Chargers were still playing there and we

1474
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:48,720
Speaker 3: got some of the best street tacos I have ever

1475
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:51,200
Speaker 3: had out there with some Bills backers. That was great.

1476
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:53,639
Speaker 3: But this is like, I think it's on that level.

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01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 13: Did you do this every weekend or is this special?

1478
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 1: No?

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01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:56,719
Speaker 3: This is special.

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01:15:56,800 --> 01:16:00,160
Speaker 10: Yeah I don't I cook every weekend, but I this

1481
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:02,400
Speaker 10: is way too much to do every week for sure.

1482
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:03,920
Speaker 10: But we change it up a lot.

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01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:06,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is great. We try to make a menu that.

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01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 10: Like kind of revolves around like the other team.

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01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:14,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we were going to do Cubans, Yeah, because

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01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:17,200
Speaker 3: that's like, which is my second favorite all time sandwich?

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01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:22,280
Speaker 3: Ruben number one, Cuban number two, miss earlier Ruben bikes.

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01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 13: Oh my god, we got pretty early too, man.

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01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 3: I know like you guys, I gotta give it to you. Yeah, yeah,

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01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 3: number one for you. Let's let's try some of them.

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01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:34,800
Speaker 3: We're ready. Now, how long should I let this cool?

1492
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:40,040
Speaker 3: Because thank you so much Molden hot So wait a second. Okay,

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01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:43,960
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna lay in cheers to you. Let's give

1494
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 3: this a shot.

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01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:47,639
Speaker 13: Oh I didn't get you meat man.

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01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:54,719
Speaker 3: Oh that's good. The wind is helping get it down

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01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:57,919
Speaker 3: to a acceptable level for the palette.

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Speaker 13: There's like a little sweetness that the cheese. That's good.

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01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 13: I'll let the congo the spicy in the Yeah.

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01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 3: The cheese is perfect on there because it needs just

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01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:14,599
Speaker 3: a little extra with the beef. Okay, well see now

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01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 3: what I do. I'm a big condiment person, So let's

1503
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:21,839
Speaker 3: let's get a little you want sour cream or saucer?

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01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 13: I'm good because listen, I'm head to toe. Why that's

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01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 13: a bad idea.

1506
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 3: We're gonna I'm trying this.

1507
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:28,719
Speaker 13: I mean it is Bill's colors, the SUSA, but still

1508
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:29,839
Speaker 13: still great.

1509
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 3: Okay, even better? Even better? What is on the dessert

1510
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 3: menu today?

1511
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:40,639
Speaker 17: So we have my mom's famous to us chocolate chip cookies.

1512
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:42,880
Speaker 17: She makes them at every family event.

1513
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:44,479
Speaker 3: And I don't know if they're famous to you, they're

1514
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 3: famous to everybody for.

1515
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 17: Karen's favorite cookies. She's she's the cookie maker. And then

1516
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:53,759
Speaker 17: my sister made the chowberry shortcake from scratch, and because

1517
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:56,080
Speaker 17: you know, it's the official dessert of Florida.

1518
01:17:56,240 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 3: I just gotta say, traveling with a layered dessert to

1519
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:03,880
Speaker 3: get to a tailgate not easy. This is in pretty

1520
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 3: darn good shape all things considered. How did you get

1521
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:08,840
Speaker 3: it here? Here? Here?

1522
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:13,000
Speaker 18: I've learned, so I started making kind of like the menu,

1523
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:16,439
Speaker 18: I started making a dessert towards our opponent. So it

1524
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:20,639
Speaker 18: started with Begnet's against New Orleans, and then we've moved

1525
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 18: up to strawberry shortcake for the bucks, because that's ambitious a.

1526
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:26,639
Speaker 11: Little.

1527
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 13: I love that that feels like Southern inspired, like a

1528
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:29,960
Speaker 13: Florida treat.

1529
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 3: Right here we go, cheers, We got the strawberry. What

1530
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 3: am I doing? I know.

1531
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:42,519
Speaker 13: You're right. It's denser, and I like that it's like

1532
01:18:42,520 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 13: a biscuit.

1533
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:44,640
Speaker 3: Much works better.

1534
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:46,680
Speaker 17: Than when you're in you know, forty my.

1535
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 3: Own hour winds. That's much different texture like biscuit, like yeah,

1536
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 3: because you're used to like the light and fluffy shortcake

1537
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 3: and this is different.

1538
01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:57,920
Speaker 13: But it works, it does it kind of holds it

1539
01:18:57,920 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 13: all together. Let the contrast in texture.

1540
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:05,800
Speaker 3: I'll do one more that is outstanding. Wow, well done

1541
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 3: on the shortcut here. Look, we got the good people

1542
01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 3: of Wegmans that take care of our tailgate sharers. Let

1543
01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 3: me see who I can get this out of my pocket.

1544
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:16,719
Speaker 13: It's hard with the layers. You gotta got the cloves

1545
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 13: off into the.

1546
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 3: Pockets with the good people. Wanted me to help you

1547
01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:24,560
Speaker 3: guys out with that. Okay, well, you know, some of

1548
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 3: your food you should at least be able to, you know,

1549
01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 3: restock the cupboards. So our good friends at Wegmans help

1550
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 3: us with the tailgate tag along every week. But great job, everybody,

1551
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 3: thanks for having us. Happy birthday, Happy birthday, Happy birthday.

1552
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 3: Where are you there are? Happy birthday? I'm sorry? Oh really,

1553
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 3: what's the sign? Old wow Joe Bills? Indeed, all right,

1554
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 3: that's it for tailgate number one. We've got to go

1555
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 3: across the way for oh yeah, we got a second one.

1556
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:58,639
Speaker 3: We got to hit two. They've got some some corn

1557
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:02,879
Speaker 3: inspired uh dishes. We're gonna have to find out exactly

1558
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:06,320
Speaker 3: what's going on there, like some pancake or cake kind

1559
01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 3: of thing. So we'll have to figure out what that's about,

1560
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 3: all right, So we've got to hit the road, on

1561
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 3: to the next Steve is unfortunately under the weather. He is,

1562
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:18,080
Speaker 3: he is, he is at home and he can't keep

1563
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:21,200
Speaker 3: food down. So trying food and putting it in not

1564
01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 3: really happy.

1565
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:23,240
Speaker 13: Don't want to see your tailgate in reverse.

1566
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:25,720
Speaker 3: So yeah, why don't you just tell me how long

1567
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 3: have you guys been in this spot.

1568
01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 9: We've been here in this exact spot for three years?

1569
01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 3: Okay.

1570
01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:32,000
Speaker 9: We absolutely love the corner here.

1571
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:34,080
Speaker 3: We get to interact with all the people a lot

1572
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:34,880
Speaker 3: of passers by.

1573
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 9: Ay and uh. Once Steve came out with that promo

1574
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:41,400
Speaker 9: that might be chili, it just kind of stuck.

1575
01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 3: Right here.

1576
01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 13: Might be chi.

1577
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:50,000
Speaker 3: Oh wow, look at this, it's a mighty chili table.

1578
01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 16: Steve.

1579
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:56,360
Speaker 3: That's great. Well, we'll get this all on film for Steve.

1580
01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 3: This is great, fantastic. I'm so sorry he's under the

1581
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:01,840
Speaker 3: didn't make it all right.

1582
01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 9: The weather has been kicking, but this.

1583
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 3: Morning I know the wind is rough. Wind has been

1584
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 3: really really wrong.

1585
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 9: My husband made homemade bagels English muffins, biscuits. We got

1586
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:16,439
Speaker 9: some banana bread muffins. We got sausage and gravy. We

1587
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 9: got pulled pork and he's working on the pancakes right now,

1588
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 9: but we got some some bacon and.

1589
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, so come on over. No, let's let's go look

1590
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 3: at the front of the trucks. Guys.

1591
01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:28,040
Speaker 13: More artwork.

1592
01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:30,719
Speaker 9: Yes, I fell in love with it and my husband

1593
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:32,599
Speaker 9: just I got a red one on a blue one

1594
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:35,640
Speaker 9: for Christmas and then we have these tickets. So then

1595
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:39,000
Speaker 9: we started tailgating and we found these online and we

1596
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:40,960
Speaker 9: just ended up buying them for everybody that comes to

1597
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:41,800
Speaker 9: our tailgates.

1598
01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 3: Awesome, like they matched the car making modeling, red, white

1599
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:45,599
Speaker 3: and blue.

1600
01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:47,960
Speaker 13: You have to bring Steve back for this because that's.

1601
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:52,320
Speaker 3: Did you say? Yeah, you got eighty nine everything. Yeah,

1602
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 3: he's gonna be crushed.

1603
01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:55,840
Speaker 2: This year.

1604
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:56,400
Speaker 3: Let's go.

1605
01:21:57,520 --> 01:21:58,599
Speaker 13: He's gonna be crushed.

1606
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:04,519
Speaker 3: We had some Okay, so I'm gonna get I'm gonna

1607
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:07,439
Speaker 3: grab one of these cheesy Okay, I'm gonna grab a

1608
01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 3: cheesy biscuit. I'm gonna break it in half. That's what

1609
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:17,640
Speaker 3: I do is break it up. Yeah, break it up absolutely,

1610
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 3: so it soaks it up better. Do you like that? Technique.

1611
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 13: That's a good tip. I didn't taste myself with a

1612
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:25,920
Speaker 13: taco place.

1613
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:30,559
Speaker 19: Yes, please, I'm gonna do the same technique money from

1614
01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:32,240
Speaker 19: Chris Brown tailgate expert.

1615
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:33,160
Speaker 13: There we go.

1616
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:36,599
Speaker 3: You can't get a piece, you can scoop a little piece.

1617
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:48,000
Speaker 3: Al alright, Oh what that's so good. Oh that is

1618
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:51,400
Speaker 3: really tasty. That's like on a daylight today.

1619
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:52,519
Speaker 13: That's perfect.

1620
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 3: That is stick to your ribs. Goodness.

1621
01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 19: The little cheese and it makes it like a meal.

1622
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:02,000
Speaker 19: There's cheese and sausage and the gravy.

1623
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 3: I need more, you more. I've bet another bite, but

1624
01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:12,559
Speaker 3: thank you. They corn based, as you say, they are,

1625
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:18,920
Speaker 3: their cornmeal, gluten free, flour, baking soda, baking powder, eggs, butter, milk,

1626
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:19,919
Speaker 3: regular milk.

1627
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:23,000
Speaker 9: So they're they're very hearty. And then you take one

1628
01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:25,040
Speaker 9: of the pancakes and you put some pultwork on.

1629
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:25,439
Speaker 3: Top of it.

1630
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:28,920
Speaker 9: And then my husband made apple cider maple syrup.

1631
01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 3: So this is like a pancake with bacon on it.

1632
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:36,400
Speaker 13: Hey what, well, it's pulled pork, but it's like you're

1633
01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:39,120
Speaker 13: putting on cake. I couldn't hear over here on what

1634
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:39,639
Speaker 13: was going on?

1635
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:45,639
Speaker 3: Real thick cold, that's all right, you can put as

1636
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:46,720
Speaker 3: much on that as you want.

1637
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:48,800
Speaker 13: I can feel my face going, look at it in

1638
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:49,400
Speaker 13: the woods.

1639
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:54,320
Speaker 3: That's excellent technique. I'm trying, all right.

1640
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:56,559
Speaker 19: So that feel like you're gonna do a little drizzle

1641
01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 19: and a little chocolate and a little.

1642
01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 3: Goat work on top of guys, get in here on

1643
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:02,040
Speaker 3: that you seeing there?

1644
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:04,800
Speaker 13: Oh, it just pulls apart though.

1645
01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:07,599
Speaker 19: Look at that it's so soft singing a little piece

1646
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:10,240
Speaker 19: of the pancake and the syrup.

1647
01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:16,000
Speaker 3: And let me see, I'm a lefty, so I got to.

1648
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 13: We're taking over creative people chairs. That's good.

1649
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:29,080
Speaker 19: Wow again, the sweet the one ingredient That apple really

1650
01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:29,759
Speaker 19: makes the balance.

1651
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:32,280
Speaker 3: You get you get the flavor of the corn right

1652
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:33,200
Speaker 3: at the end.

1653
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:35,920
Speaker 7: This is delicious.

1654
01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:36,800
Speaker 3: This is really good.

1655
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:43,120
Speaker 13: And I thought the bills tableware, she has bills plates.

1656
01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:45,840
Speaker 13: Oh yeah, and the bills.

1657
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:46,440
Speaker 3: That is dynamite.

1658
01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 7: That's really good.

1659
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:57,840
Speaker 3: This is dynamite, really good. Like just you get flavors

1660
01:24:57,880 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 3: at different times in your her mouth, like first the

1661
01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 3: syrup and then the porn at the end, and then like.

1662
01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:07,800
Speaker 9: You first when he first said it, you're like you're

1663
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:10,600
Speaker 9: putting cold pork on pancakes. When he first said it,

1664
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:13,040
Speaker 9: I was like you're putting pulled pork on pancakes.

1665
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:14,040
Speaker 3: Is amazing.

1666
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:18,280
Speaker 19: Bounced with the sweet of the syrup and the sweet

1667
01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:19,400
Speaker 19: and salty of the pancake.

1668
01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:22,879
Speaker 13: Great bounce, excellent works. It's excellent.

1669
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:27,280
Speaker 3: Really, the idea throwing it on a pancake, that's Jenny

1670
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:33,680
Speaker 3: Hare's recipe. She was the chef for The Bruntchick Clarksburg,

1671
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:36,040
Speaker 3: like a couple of years ago. Okay, but it's all

1672
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:41,120
Speaker 3: her stuff. It works, but that's her and the syrup reduction, Like,

1673
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:44,639
Speaker 3: that's very good apple cider, a little bit of syrup

1674
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:46,920
Speaker 3: and I just cooked it. Well, you're an excellent student

1675
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:53,160
Speaker 3: at the very least, Jenny. He's too modest. He's too budes.

1676
01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:56,200
Speaker 3: Tell you, the good people at Wegmans for letting us

1677
01:25:56,200 --> 01:25:58,439
Speaker 3: try your food, are going to help you out in

1678
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:02,400
Speaker 3: terms of refortifying your menu. So that's for you guys.

1679
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:06,280
Speaker 3: That's for you guys. That's what Wegmans wants to do.

1680
01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:08,120
Speaker 3: They want to kind of support the people that come

1681
01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:11,519
Speaker 3: out of tailgate every week. So so you guys can

1682
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:14,559
Speaker 3: kind of restock your menu items for the next time,

1683
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:17,800
Speaker 3: especially for Cincinnati. You're gonna need that. Jen, thanks for

1684
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:21,840
Speaker 3: helping us out to a stand in for Steve. You

1685
01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:23,240
Speaker 3: do a great job. Thank you.

1686
01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:25,080
Speaker 13: I know it's not the same he has to come

1687
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:25,479
Speaker 13: back here.

1688
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:28,680
Speaker 3: We're probably gonna have to come back for the Cincinnati

1689
01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:31,560
Speaker 3: home game. But that'll do it for us for episode

1690
01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:34,559
Speaker 3: six of the Tailgate tag along. We'll see at the

1691
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:39,599
Speaker 3: next home game, Hoboll. So my thanks to Jen Markham

1692
01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:41,719
Speaker 3: again for stepping in for Steve. She was a huge

1693
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:46,240
Speaker 3: help and she was a perfect companion for my first

1694
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:49,959
Speaker 3: Lady tailgate. I still have the certificates here that Bridget

1695
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:53,080
Speaker 3: and the crew gave to us. I got one, Steve

1696
01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 3: got one, so we'll hand this off to him, uh

1697
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:58,160
Speaker 3: when he does get back in the office. Just a

1698
01:26:58,200 --> 01:27:02,040
Speaker 3: really good crew out there, and then we could have

1699
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:04,639
Speaker 3: called it a tasker tailgate. There was more tasker stuff

1700
01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:07,360
Speaker 3: there than you can shake a stick at. Whether it

1701
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:10,600
Speaker 3: was the tables painted with it might be chilly, the

1702
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:14,760
Speaker 3: license plates, the hood ornaments. It was crazy. So we'll

1703
01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:16,920
Speaker 3: have to take Steve out there for an extra stop

1704
01:27:17,479 --> 01:27:19,720
Speaker 3: for the Cincinnati tailgate, which Steve will be happy to

1705
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:24,000
Speaker 3: know is their steak and lobster tailgate, So pack your

1706
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:26,800
Speaker 3: appetite for that one. But our thanks to the people

1707
01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 3: at Wegmans, the official tailgating headquarters of the Buffalo Bills.

1708
01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:34,120
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1709
01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:36,799
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1710
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:39,280
Speaker 3: Sweep Sinks to win a Wegmans and Buffalo Bills and

1711
01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:43,160
Speaker 3: Rivalries prize pack. See details in the ice cream Aisle

1712
01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:47,120
Speaker 3: at participating Wegmans. No purchase necessary. So we hope you

1713
01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:50,200
Speaker 3: enjoyed the latest edition of the tailgate tag along. We'll

1714
01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:53,679
Speaker 3: do another one for the Cincinnati game in a couple

1715
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:55,679
Speaker 3: of weeks. Got to take a break here, we wrap

1716
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:57,639
Speaker 3: things up when we return here On one Bill's Live

1717
01:27:57,680 --> 01:28:13,479
Speaker 3: presented by Colta Health, it's Buffalo Bills Radio time out

1718
01:28:13,479 --> 01:28:16,120
Speaker 3: for this week's Coach of the Week, presented by Legends

1719
01:28:16,160 --> 01:28:20,120
Speaker 3: Global Merchandise for week eleven. In section six, it's Brian

1720
01:28:20,240 --> 01:28:24,200
Speaker 3: Davis from McKinley. The Max defeated Health Sciences thirty eight

1721
01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:28,080
Speaker 3: to fourteen in the Class A Sectional championship last week

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Speaker 3: right here at heigh Mark Stadium, so congrats to the Max.

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Speaker 3: In section five, Anthony Bianki from Penfield takes home this

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Speaker 3: week's honor after he led his team to their first

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Speaker 3: sectional championship in school history, scoring twenty one points in

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Speaker 3: the fourth quarter to secure the win over Pittsford. Each

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Speaker 3: coach will receive one thousand dollars for their program, so

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Speaker 3: congratulations to them Section championships for those two respective coaches.

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Speaker 3: It is official now as Techson's head coach Demiko Ryans,

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Speaker 3: at his press conference today officially ruled out quarterback CJ.

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Speaker 3: Stroud and safety Slash Nickel corner Jalen Petrie as both

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Speaker 3: of them remain in concussion protocol and they're not going

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Speaker 3: to get out in time to play on Thursday night.

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Speaker 3: He did say there is a good chance those two

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Speaker 3: players are back in the lineup the following week when

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Speaker 3: they have a big division matchup against the Indianapolis Colts,

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Speaker 3: who they are chasing in the AFC South. Right now,

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Speaker 3: Davis Mills with two starts for the Texans so far

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Speaker 3: this season and he is two to zero, so he

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Speaker 3: is no slouch and has plenty of experience. But that's

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Speaker 3: it for us. Here on a Tuesday edition at One

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Speaker 3: Bill's Live, Steven Maddie, they'll take you through tomorrow show

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Speaker 3: and they'll see you at one o'clock