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On Bloomberg Radio, Good morning everyone, Michael McKeon, 9 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: Tim Keene with Markets Exceptional this morning, we walk up 10 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: all of you worldwide. Bloomberg twelve hundred Boston, Bloomberg FM 11 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: Washington with Janet Yellin's testimony in one hour Bloomberg eleven 12 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: creon New York. Good Morning out of the West Coast, 13 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: Bloomberg during sixty in the Bay Area, a special Good 14 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: morning across all of serious. The next time Channel one 15 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: nine teen. UH the markets we could do in our 16 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: data check. We're not gonna do that. David Wilson's grabbing 17 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: my bow tie saying, no, you won't do that, sir. 18 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: Let's just look at foreign exchange for X. Brief brought 19 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: you by Interactive Broker's winner of f X Week's two 20 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 1: thousand and fifteen award for the Best Retail for X 21 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: training platform. Visit ib at I b k R dot 22 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: com slash four x ib kr dot com slash four 23 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: x Yen historic. What a move weaker yet in the 24 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 1: last hour one four euro one thirteen twenty eight dollar 25 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: weaker off d x Y. But Hans Rhodecker at Morgan 26 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 1: Stanley adamant that it's about dollar strength, euro strength, Yen 27 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: strength against the beleaguered world. I would know Russian ruble, 28 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: which has been strong and stable in the last hour, 29 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: has given that up. We've gone from seventy eight to 30 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: eighty point five one on Russian ruble. That bears watching 31 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: one with Mexican Paso nineteen point one two as well. 32 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: David Wilson, what's great about you undering into the studio 33 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: is you're looking at things. I'm not looking at Michael's 34 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: not looking at We've been euro euro euro banking. You're 35 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: looking at other banking. Well, sure, I mean you've got 36 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: to mean given the declines that we saw overnight in 37 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: European and Japanese banks, you're seeing losses in early trading 38 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: among the largest US banks, Bank of America and City Group, 39 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: both down about three and a half percent in early trading. 40 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 1: JP Morgan chased down three percent, Wells Fargo down two 41 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: and a half percent. You've also got energy stocks lower, 42 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: Crude oil following as much as four and a half 43 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: percent in New York trading and approaching last month s low. 44 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: So you've got Excellent Mobile down one and a half percent, 45 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: saying for Chevron, Marathon Oil down three percent. Gold mining 46 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: stocks so they're taking off as de precious metal heads 47 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: for its biggest gain since September twenty in New York trading. 48 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: Barrack Gold up eight percent, same for Newmont Mining and 49 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: Gold Corps up nine and a half percent at the moment. 50 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: Cisco Systems up a out six percent. The largest maker 51 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: of networking equipment unexpectedly forecast higher revenue for its fiscal 52 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 1: third quarter. Analysts were looking for Cisco sales to drop 53 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: one percent, according to the average estament in the Bloomberg survey. 54 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: Then you have my Land, the most active stock and 55 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: early trading down twelve and a half percent. The drug 56 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: maker agreed to choire Sweden's Meta for about seven point 57 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: two billion dollars in casting stock, the deal's value on 58 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: it for share basis exceeded the all time high for 59 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: metas shares UH count. Analysts can catch a tory wrote 60 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: a report that my lens agree and fits a pattern 61 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: of wealth destroying decisions, and you've got some wealth being 62 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: destroyed at Twitter as well. That's stock down five and 63 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: a half percent. The social media site unexpectedly failed to 64 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: add users last quarter, and Twitter's revenue forecast for this 65 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: quarter trailed analy assessments. There is a better story how 66 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: the online world, though, when you look at travel agencies 67 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: Expedients shares up nine percent UH their preferred gaze of earnings, 68 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: they're looking forward to rise this year by at least 69 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: thirty five percent and possibly as much as forty five percent. 70 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: Then you have Trip Advisor up ten a half percent. 71 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: Fourth quarter earnings and revenue beat analysts highest estimates, and 72 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: you can throw into that price line group up three 73 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: percent in early trading, Tesla Motors up five percent. Billionaire 74 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: Alon Musk Electric Carmaker said it expects deliveries worldwide to 75 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: rise as much as seventy eight percent this year, the 76 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: projected growth beating analysts estimates. O'relly Automotive up three percent. 77 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: The All the Parts retailer's fourth quarter earnings and sales 78 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: beat projections. O'Reilly raised a stock buyback program by seven 79 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: fifty million dollars and one more for you, International Flavors 80 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 1: and Fragrance absolutely. Last quarters profit and revenue came up 81 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: short of projections, and i f F is down twelve 82 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: percent in early trading. David Wilson, thank you so much 83 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: to the day, David Wilson. The equity markets negative thirty 84 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: one on the futures better than the negative forty earlier. Mike, 85 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: it would be rude if I brought in our next guest. Please. 86 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 1: Oh well, the only thing I can say is, uh, 87 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: we did it. No, we didn't do it, Libby, but 88 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 1: the Broncos did it. Share and revel in our in 89 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: our victory. Can't wait? What a what a game? And 90 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: this shows you that defense can actually win games, right absolutely. Oh. 91 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: By the way, we're talking with pimco's chief National Football 92 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: League analyst, Um Libby Cantl, who sometimes on the side 93 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: analyzes and coordinates the firm's response to public policy issues, 94 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: which I suppose probably more people want to hear about 95 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: than you and I reveling in But you what has 96 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 1: changed in your world after Iowa and after New Hampshire? 97 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 1: Does a Libby cantrel world change in Washington? Um, well, 98 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: you know, my pain, my life tamed after a Bronco victory. Um. 99 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 1: You know, perhaps I I you know, I think that 100 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: in terms of you know, Iowa and New Hampshire obviously 101 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 1: important clues, um, in terms of the kind of the 102 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: direction of these races. But really I think it's really 103 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 1: super important for everybody to contextualize these from a from 104 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 1: a delegate perspective. And that's what really matters, right you 105 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: for each party they're trying to get a simple majority 106 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,799 Speaker 1: of the total delegates at stake, they really don't represent 107 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: very much, you know, one percent for Iowa, one percent 108 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: for New Hampshire. But we definitely learned some things, right 109 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 1: So on the New Hampshire side, Uh, we learned that 110 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: Trump actually can mobilize his supporters. That was a little 111 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: bit in question, and after Iowa, where he unexpectedly came 112 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: in second, we also learned in New Hampshire that the 113 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: debates actually matter, um in places where lots of voters 114 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 1: actually break at the last minute, broken and the last 115 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: week and and ended up voting for you know, instead 116 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: of Rubio voting for Kasik and Cruise and and Trump 117 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: and and Bush. Um. And then we also learned, you know, 118 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: from Hamps from the up side, that this is going 119 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: to be a much longer protracted race than I think 120 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: some people had hoped, because um, instead of gaining clarity 121 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: in terms of who the establishment candidate is going to be, 122 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: it really just muddled the muddled the things a little 123 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: bit more. Uh. It's so far, despite all the railing 124 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,679 Speaker 1: against Wall Street that's been done on the campaign trail, 125 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: investors don't seem to be too upset about what's happening 126 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: in the political campaigns. So when do they start paying attention. 127 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: Is it just that at this point they can't believe 128 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: that those who are leading are leading. Yeah, that and 129 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: then also obviously just the exogenists events that are going on, 130 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: you know, around the globe, and also you know domestically, 131 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: and I would contend and we're we've been talking to 132 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: our our traitors a lot about this. Is that the 133 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: longer the primary races go on on each side, on 134 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: the Democratic and Republican side, And it looks like because 135 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: of the way that the delegates are apportioned because again 136 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: that the the establishment candidate hasn't been determined on the 137 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: Republican side, that the laws races go. The more people, 138 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: the more the candidates are forced to make compromises with 139 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: the very extremes of their party, and they're they're you know, 140 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: they're much more likely to say things that they may 141 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: not necessarily believe, but then they're held accountable to when 142 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: they come into office. And and that's bad, you know, 143 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: from a from a just a prognosis of more compromise 144 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: in seventeen when people have to make um, you know, 145 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: their promises and ingratiate themselves with the extremes of their 146 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: party in order to get the nomination, find it more 147 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: difficult to pivot to the center. And then when they 148 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: actually have to govern, you know, find it harder than 149 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: to to compromise and reach across the aisle. Is there 150 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: gerrymandering still among the congressional districts and is there almost 151 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: state jerrymandering that goes on in your Washington Well, certainly 152 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 1: on the you know, fairly in the House of Representatives. Um, 153 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: just for for listeners, um, you know, redistricting happens every 154 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: every ten years. It's based on the national sentence. The 155 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: last time of the census was done, it was and 156 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: at that point, state officials on both sides of the aisle, 157 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: but especially among Republicans, because they happen to control more 158 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: state legislatures and governorships, UM, they use the opportunity to 159 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: really consolidate support and make the districts you know, much 160 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,719 Speaker 1: redder and on the Democratic fact so yeah, so, so 161 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: the punchline is, yeah, many more fewer swing districts UM 162 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: within the House of Representatives, which really means that, you know, 163 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: barring something pretty extraordinary happening, it looks like the House 164 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: will stay Republican um almost almost without you know, almost. 165 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: That's a great civics lesson. But then can you carry 166 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: elements or tones of that over to the Senate where 167 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: we wouldn't expect to see it? Yeah, I mean, so 168 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 1: the Senate UM. The Senate is quite different. Obviously, those 169 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: are statewide races versus can can you know, districtwide UM 170 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: races you know in the Senate. This the dynamics this 171 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,719 Speaker 1: year is a little bit reversed from twenty fourteen. So 172 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: going into Democrats had the majority, they were defending the 173 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: majority of seats up for re election. They ended up 174 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 1: losing the Senate to the Republicans. This election cycle um 175 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: is sort of the same Diana for Republicans. The Republicans 176 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: are defending twenty four of the thirty four states that 177 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: are set se that are up for re election, and 178 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: of the twenty four, eight have gone for President Obama 179 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: or eight are in states that have gone for President 180 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 1: Obama and you know the past two election cycles. So 181 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: it makes the Senate a lot more vulnerable for Republicans. 182 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 1: That The interesting thing is if you look at where 183 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: those Senate races are, they happen to be in the 184 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: swing states, right, happen to be in New Hampsters Living. 185 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: We gotta leave it their livy cantrol with Pimco whatever 186 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: on again, just talk Denver Broncos football. We need to 187 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: check out with Michael Barr and get the latest world 188 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: and national news. 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It's like Wall Street in Main Street. 246 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: The gap is as wide as it wasn't Speaker Pelosi 247 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: was talking about this issue or is it really not? 248 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: Where are we on the gap between Wall Street and 249 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: Main Street? I think it's more polarized than ever in 250 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: this political season with the two Democratic candidates arguing over 251 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: whether Mrs Clinton has taken so much money from Wall 252 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: Street she simply can't protect investor interests. So I think 253 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: the environment is probably as poisonous as ever. Hammering Wall 254 00:14:55,080 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: Street has become the political act of day to advance 255 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: the interests of whoever's was it always there for those 256 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: of us younger? Is this a new phenomenon? Ors Arthur 257 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: Levitt lived with this. I think it's a phenomenon that 258 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: goes back all the way for almost hundreds of years. 259 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: I can remember growing up in Brooklyn, my grandfather, who 260 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: was an immigrant, railing against two things, the politicians and 261 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: Wall Street. Wall Street was a convenient whipping boy for 262 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: mostly the lower economic levels of our society. I don't 263 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: think that has changed. I think it's polarized even more 264 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: by the nature of political rhetoric which targets people who 265 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: have received the benefits of Wall Streets, such as the 266 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: banks and the individual brokerage firms have become front and 267 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: center in political diatribe. Speaking of political diatribes, you note 268 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: this morning that Senator Elizabeth Warren and Representative Elijah Cummings 269 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: have inserted themselves into this debate about the financial responsibility 270 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: standards that Labor Department is setting for advisors. Yes, what 271 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: they are what Cummings and Warren are saying today. They're 272 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: putting forth arguments written by various financial firms to their clients, 273 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: saying that the Department of Labor rule calling for uh 274 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: fiduciary standard really isn't going to hurt their clients very much. 275 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: I think it's kind of a specious argument, because that's 276 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: natural for any dealings with a customer. Obviously you're going 277 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: to say to the customer, yes, we didn't want this rule, 278 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: but since we have it, we don't feel it's going 279 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: to hurt you that much. I think Warren and Cummings 280 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: are trying to emphasize what they regard to be the 281 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: hypocrisy of Wall Street. I think that's somewhat overstated. I 282 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: think that's a natural transaction between a deal or and 283 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: a customer, and it's really kind of naive to expect 284 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: that it would be anything but that they didn't like 285 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: the rule, but since they have it, they'll live with it. Arthur, 286 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: I want to rip up the script here, No, not 287 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: Giants football, but Hillary football. You've been doing this for years. 288 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 1: What is your advice to Secretary Clinton two repair her 289 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: bond with her party, and I respectfully suggest your party, Uh, 290 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: given the tilt to Wall Street that she had in 291 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 1: recent years. What's the Levit game plan for Hillary Clinton. 292 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: I don't think she I oh lost, Oh my god. 293 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 1: Let's see if we can get Arthur back and let 294 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 1: us let us note a major major failure on the 295 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: part of the surveillance staff. They forgot to mail your 296 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: application to be I am if managing director. Guards single handedly, 297 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 1: single handily ripped it up, and we can pass along 298 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: this headline that Christine Legard is now unopposed for another term. Okay, 299 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 1: we've got Arthur love it back again. Arthur. What's your 300 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: advice to Secretary Clinton. I think she's got to stay 301 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: the course, not apologize for her relations with Wall Street. 302 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 1: She was a senator from New York. She did receive 303 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: political contributions, as did every other Democratic candidate from Wall Street. 304 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: I simply think she should not apologize, nor should she 305 00:18:56,440 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: turn against Wall Street reject contribution. That would be the 306 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: worst thing in the world that you could do. Stay 307 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 1: the course. Okay, Arthur Levin, thank you so much, greatly 308 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: appreciate it. He has a former chairman of the sec 309 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: and of course working around in in the Democratic Party 310 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: for many decades. Um, Mike, it's a better tape. I mean, 311 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 1: I think we need you know, I get a lot 312 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: of grief that it's gloomy and gloomberg and all that, 313 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 1: but we do like to show constructive vectors when they occur. 314 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: Right now, Well, okay, Um, the low on the S 315 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: and P futures was eighteen o two. We're at eighteen fifteen, 316 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: so it is better, but we're still down by almost 317 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 1: two percent in the future. So I'm lennas see what happens. 318 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: And we have come off a bit on the tenure. 319 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: Note you know one point five nine. We were as 320 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 1: low as one point five two at one point, So 321 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 1: I'll take your point. Yeah, we'll watch the opening coming 322 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: up in just a few moments here on Bloomberg Surveillance. 323 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: We're cutting you down to that opening bell. Brought to 324 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: you by the refined Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland. 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I'm Karen Moscow along with 334 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: Tom Keene and Michael McKee, and the opening bell is 335 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: brought to you by s E. I imagine your asset 336 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 1: management firms operational infrastructure as a competitive advantage. Let see 337 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: I show you how at se i C dot com 338 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: slash imagine and the S and P five hundred lower 339 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 1: at the open, down nine tenths percent or sixteen points 340 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: to eighteen thirty five down. Joe's Industrial Average down nine 341 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: ten percent or a hundred thirty nine points to fifteen thousand, 342 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: seven hundred seventy four. The nasdacts down one and a 343 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: half percent or sixty three points to twenty Tenure Treasury 344 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: up twenty one thirty seconds, the yield one point five 345 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: nine percent yield on the two year point six two 346 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: percent nine x screwed oil down two percent, down fifty 347 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 1: five cents to ninety one a barrel. Comex gold is 348 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: up three point nine percent, or forty six dollars eighty 349 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: cents at twelve forty one twenty announced the euro A 350 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:39,360 Speaker 1: dollar thirteen fifty three, the en one twelve point three one. 351 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: Tom and Mike Karen, thanks so much. I will look 352 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: for the first print in the VIX twenty six point 353 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: two nine. Closing, James Steele is someone we love speaking 354 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: to on gold. He looks at fundamentals, he looks at supply, 355 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 1: he looks at a growing demand in Asia, and he 356 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: has been optimistic James. Technically, I just worked up a chart, 357 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: it's called a point and figure chart which from January 358 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 1: it's seventeen eighty an ounce has been seuth in bear market. 359 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: To your great credit, we've broken through the huge resistance 360 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: of the last three years. What's it mean? Well, I 361 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 1: think it's a good morning, Tom, and I think I 362 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 1: think it's a reflection of risk off investor mentality the 363 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: h This is where gold does shine when you uh 364 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: when there's uncertainty in the corrency markets, particularly also inequities, 365 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 1: and gold has been the recipient of of of at 366 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: least a portion of this, of this outflow. And and 367 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: what what I think is interesting is that unlike previous 368 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: periods of risk off last year or say the year before, 369 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: when money went into treasuries, depressed fields but also boosted 370 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: the dollar. Uh, and that weight on gold, this time, Uh, 371 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: it's not having that effect on the dollar, and rather 372 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: gold is the the principal recipient. The move today is 373 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: so abrupt and so big, I'm wondering if it can 374 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: be sustained or if there's something else behind it. Well, 375 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: you do have to ask yourself in a you know, 376 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: gold is a relatively small market compared to the giant 377 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: for in exchange and then global fixed income markets. This 378 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: this is a as you pointed out rightly, a very 379 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: steep a rally, and uh, you know, just and that's 380 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: that that will provoke a fundamental response. Already we're seeing 381 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: a very steep discount in India to world gold prices, 382 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: and that would imply that import demand there would be 383 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: very weak. So uh that in fact could eventually begin 384 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: to trigger some kind of a correction. And this goes 385 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: to the heart of the matter. And I don't want 386 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 1: you to do this technically, James, because I know you 387 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: don't do that state the case for a fundamental return 388 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 1: to old optimism. Can you make that today? Or is 389 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: that premature? No? I think and and and and we've 390 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: been supportive on on on a on a basic fundamental front, 391 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 1: I mean taking the non monetary, non investment side. For 392 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: the moment um, increasing income in in in in the 393 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: emerging world is friendly towards gold because of the predilection 394 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:27,199 Speaker 1: towards owning bullion. Uh. If you couple that with a 395 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 1: static or or just beginning to decline gold mine production 396 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: and lower recycling than these, if you were to look 397 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: at it like a copper or or or or any 398 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: other non monetary commodity, then you know the argument would 399 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: be for modest gains in gold. And where we get 400 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 1: these very strong rallies is when the investment case for 401 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: gold also couples along with that. And I think that's 402 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: what we're seeing now. What's the investment case that is 403 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: a haven? Simply it's it's a safe haven and it's 404 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: a flight to quality. Yes, um which is uh why 405 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: it rallied significantly during the last crisis. Um Or, I'm 406 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,199 Speaker 1: not saying we're in a crisis now, but in in 407 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: the most recent crisis. The trajectory was very high between 408 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight two thousand nine when the financial crisis, 409 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: the mortgage crisis morphed into a financial one and then 410 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: eventually became a sovereign risk crisis for some countries, and 411 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 1: and that in turn really bolstered to go That's what 412 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: sent But I want to pinion down in this James, 413 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: We've got too much respect for your fundamental work. The 414 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: leg up now that we're seeing because of fear in 415 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: the market down negative to oil pot nine zero and 416 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 1: the dollar weeker. The leg up that we're seeing now 417 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: is because of fear in the market. Can you underpin 418 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: that with your optimism on demand for gold in emerging markets? 419 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 1: Or can you just not call a bull market in gold? Oh? Well, 420 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: I think that uh uh, we've as you pointed out, 421 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: we've been in a retrenched bear market for for a 422 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: long time, and we're positive on the gold market. We 423 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: we we are bullish without necessarily calling for a raging 424 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: uh gold bull market. And yes, the the the fundamentals 425 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: you know are are definitely supportive and at least for 426 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 1: the moment when as long as this turmoil is on, 427 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: uh so so is the investment case. So now what 428 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 1: I would what I would caution is that in these 429 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 1: rapid run ups, as with all markets, one may see 430 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: some profit taking when one could also see a step 431 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: near term retrenchment UH in fundamental demand. You know that 432 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: there's going to be sticker shock for ordinary gold buyers 433 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 1: in India, China, Indonesia, in places like that. That's going 434 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: to undercut temporarily the physical the physical demand, which could 435 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 1: act to restrain which which could act to restrain the market. 436 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 1: But those things tend to move less than the investment 437 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: flows which are dominating right now that both those points 438 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: are true, And I just wonder, when you have a 439 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 1: reaction as you have now Haven reaction, aren't you just 440 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: sort of crossing your fingers and hoping that the price 441 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: will continue to go up if you're buying into it, 442 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: Because if something, if Janet Yellen says something today that 443 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: turns people's views, we could go right back down again. Sure, 444 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 1: and that would be the same with UH, you know, 445 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 1: bonds or UH for x so, But are you more 446 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: vulnerable divorced from UH market volatility and the vagaries of 447 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: the market the way anything else is. I'm just wondering, 448 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: as a haven trade. Is it more vulnerable than perhaps 449 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: some other asset classes. Well, it is the classic safe 450 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: haven trade. Um it is, you know, because it is 451 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: the world's supreme hard asset. And uh for for many reasons, 452 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: it's more liquid than real estate object, etcetera. And and 453 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 1: and so therefore, Um, when you get periods of stability, 454 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: when we when we move from periods of of uncertainty 455 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: back to stability, gold is a casualty without doubt. That 456 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: that that that is absolutely true. And if one could 457 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: make a wave, a magic wand and restore stability, and 458 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 1: we would know if we knew that the markets would 459 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: be stable going forth, that would deprived gold of a 460 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: lot of the oxygen that it's received recently. Yes, only 461 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 1: about thirty seconds or so left. Who's buying? Is this 462 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: the pros? Are? Are we seeing e t F flows 463 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 1: the average person getting into gold right now? Well, it's 464 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: interesting we saw e t F down sharply last year, 465 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: and so far this year, of all the outflows and 466 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: the e t s have been recovered, and in the 467 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: first six weeks of this year alone, it strikes me 468 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: that we're seeing institutions back in But it does look 469 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: rather broad based. But we would need to see the 470 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: market more sustained to get a larger retail element. James 471 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: thinking so much. James, isn't the HSBC on gold. I'm 472 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: gonna call it a measured market matching futures action before 473 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: negative to thirty seven fifteen thousand, six seventy nine print 474 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: of the VIX two point three eight figures two point 475 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: three eight points twenty eight point six seven on the 476 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: Vicks not out past that thirty level which captures the sweat. 477 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: Sometime we're not there. Maybe we were there two hours ago, 478 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: We're not there now, twenty six seventy three on West 479 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: Texas Intermediate. The YEN one twelve twenty nine not as 480 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: strong as earlier. I'm not a check in with Michael R. 481 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: Get the latest world of national headlines. Mike Tom, thank 482 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: you very much. President Obama will be in California today 483 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: to raise money for Democrats. The President will attend four 484 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: fund raisers to in Los Angeles, hand too in Silicon Valley. 485 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders has raised more than seven million dollars since 486 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: his win in the New Hampshire Democratic primary. Sanders made 487 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: an appearance last night on CBS is The Late Show 488 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: with Stephen Gilbert what the goal of this campaign is about. 489 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: It is the look at the civil rights movement, look 490 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: at the women's movement, look at the game movement. Understand 491 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: that when people come together, we can accomplish enormous things. 492 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: But I think what people are saying enough is enough. 493 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: We need fundamental changes in our political system and our 494 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: economic system. Republican presidential candidates have headed to South Carolina, 495 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: stateholds its Republican primary on February. It is an open primary. 496 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,959 Speaker 1: It means Republicans, Democrats, and independents can vote in it. 497 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: South Korean officials says North Korean leader Kim John Un 498 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: has executed as military chief for corruption and other charges. 499 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: It comes as North Korea has ordered its army to 500 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: occupy an industrial park jointly run with South Korea. North 501 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: Korea will kick out the remaining South Korean nationals in 502 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: the park. It's the latest chapter in rising tensions after 503 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: Beyong Yang conducted a rocket launched Sunday Global News twenty 504 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: four hours a day, powered by our journalists more than 505 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 1: a hundred fifty news bureaus from around the world. How 506 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: Michael bar Mchael Barr, thanks so mar It's a ten 507 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: or year one year point six three percent. Janet Yellen 508 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: with interesting answers to senators questions at ten a m. 509 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: This morning. Stay with us. We have not talked with 510 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: Peter Elliott in quite a while because he's been on 511 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: the road. 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The N one twelve point four three 537 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: mile in the worst performer in the SNP five hundred today. 538 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: It is down at fifteen point four percent after it 539 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: agreed to buy Meta for about seven point two billion 540 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: dollars in cash and stock. And consumer comfort in the 541 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: first week of February, holding close to a three month 542 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: high forty four point five reading in the Bloomberg Consumer 543 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 1: Comfort Index during the period ending February seven, little change 544 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: from the forty four point to the prior week. That's 545 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: a Bloomberg Business Flash, Tom and Mike, thank you very much. 546 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: Karen Moscow, Well, we have an unfamiliar face, a familiar 547 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: unfamiliar face in the studio, somebody we haven't seen for 548 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: a while because he's been sampling the cuisines of the world. 549 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Reserve editor and dying go officionado expert, et cetera. 550 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: Peter Elliott, he's back with us. Sometimes you always say 551 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: that as if, as if you all haven't been in 552 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: places like Davos. You know, it's okay, you all have not. 553 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: Tom Keans, I was holding down the fort here and uh, 554 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: dining at the Bloomberg's neck machine. So very good. Well 555 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 1: we are. I'm definitely in New York and we're a 556 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: very interesting time. Well we are. We are desperately in 557 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: need of an update on a terrific new restaurants, and 558 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: there are several of them opening now. I'm going to 559 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 1: start with the one I want to know about, because 560 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: all politics being local. Uh, my neighborhood is welcoming Salvation Burger, 561 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: which is um from April Bloomfield and Ken Friedman. People 562 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 1: may not know the names, but they know their restaurant, 563 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: the Spotted Pig. They know their restaurant, The Spotted Pig, 564 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: which they also share with Mario Batali, who will um 565 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: get to hopefully in this segment. Um. Yes, um Ken 566 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:37,399 Speaker 1: Friedman and April Bloomfield also have the Breslin. Uh. They 567 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: also have the John Dorry and the Rusty Not. So 568 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: there's they are a well established kind of mini empire 569 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,839 Speaker 1: that is uh taken over the city in a very 570 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 1: surreptitious way, I would say, or maybe the right word 571 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: is a quiet uh takeover of the city. Uh. They 572 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 1: went from that to Salvation Taco and then up to 573 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: an area which is well above their usual stomping grounds, 574 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 1: um in the East fifties, east Midtown, so that they 575 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: are one with the burger craze. And that comes from April, 576 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: who's the chef of this this partnership, um making a 577 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 1: sensational lamb burger at the Breslin and and really spinning 578 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 1: it off into a business. So UM, I am looking 579 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: forward open Wednesday night. I'm looking forward to trying my 580 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: first Salvation Burger and um and um off we go. Well, 581 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: let me ask you a question. There is a conventional 582 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 1: wisdom is there can be restaurant locations that are cursed yes, 583 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: and I know where this restaurant, Salvation Burger is opening, 584 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: and it has been many things over the years, and 585 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: no restaurant has succeeded. There is that just an urban myth? 586 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 1: Um it is. It is neither an urban myth and 587 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: you are both correct and and incorrect at the same 588 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 1: time time. There are there are plenty of spaces that 589 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 1: have been cursed that just have the right ideas. By 590 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 1: standard definition of market capitalism, you know, as long as 591 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 1: you make the right the right product for the right market, 592 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: somebody will beat the path to your door. And certainly, 593 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: if I was going to put my money on everybody 594 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 1: forgetting uh that that that space has been cursed, I 595 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: would give it to April Bloomfield and again Friedman in 596 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,959 Speaker 1: a in a in a world where you know, people 597 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 1: will line up for burgers. And one of the great 598 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 1: stories of New York and for all of you worldwide, 599 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 1: it's one of the oddest plants in New York is 600 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 1: on the West side of New York, down down down. 601 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: It's called the Maritime Hotel, which has portholes. It had 602 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: something to do with the Union and ports and shipping 603 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: years ago. It's gone under about four times and now 604 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: it's a new reado due of two guys that really 605 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 1: know what they're doing making a three hundred seat ginormous 606 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:53,240 Speaker 1: bar Italian experience. And the key thing is these guys 607 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 1: know what they're doing. The risk of that physical space 608 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 1: a common a common theme we have going on here. 609 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 1: So here's Ken Reedman, a businessman and h skilled operator, 610 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: and Abel Bloomfield, a skilt and talented chef uptown up 611 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,399 Speaker 1: doing uptown. They also have Downtown Um very much like 612 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 1: Mario Batali chef Joe bastianae operator. These are people who 613 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 1: really know the industry and also mike to the same 614 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: To your point, Um, the space where Las Arena is 615 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,280 Speaker 1: is opening tonight at the Maritime Motel is equally cursed, 616 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 1: has had equally uh stupid restaurants through it over the 617 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 1: course of this revival, from its union days through to 618 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 1: it being a hotel. Nothing nobody can seem to make 619 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 1: that space work again if I thought there was anybody 620 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: who could make that work. You know what I think 621 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: is interesting about what what Joe and Mario Batali are 622 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: doing at this space is that they're taking a page 623 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 1: from the Ken Keith McNally playbook. So I mean if 624 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 1: there's a around the world. As I travel, I always say, 625 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 1: if you can do whatever it is that Keith McNally 626 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 1: does at Baltazar, you have a winner. So you know, 627 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,319 Speaker 1: Maritali famous for Russian called Babo, which is tiny, still 628 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 1: hard to get into. But you know, here's a three 629 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 1: hundred seat restaurant where the price point is actually coming 630 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 1: in low. And I predict you heard it here on 631 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio, that Las Arena, because Joe and Mario have 632 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 1: worked out that what people really want is simple food 633 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 1: at a good price point, just like Baltas are This 634 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 1: will be the winner, This will be the turnover. What's 635 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,879 Speaker 1: on the menu, it's it's pure Italian. It's Mario back 636 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 1: to his roots. So I mean if Babo is like 637 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 1: the high end version of Italian love, you know, land 638 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 1: letters and all that good stuff. This is you know, 639 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,959 Speaker 1: Baltas Ore for Italians. They must employ a huge number 640 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: of people. Both are to do you give you global perspective. 641 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 1: There's a bet an empty seat at it and six, 642 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 1: but probably near twenty. The waiters and the waitresses, the 643 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: bartenders do they make like a king's ransom at those 644 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,320 Speaker 1: places they make They make decent salaries. It's it's it's 645 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,320 Speaker 1: like a fashion, old fashioned market capitalism. It's I remember 646 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 1: Tony Tony May from Santa Menico. It doesn't matter what 647 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 1: Danny Meyer talks about. It doesn't mean if they if 648 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,359 Speaker 1: there are people in the seats, you get paid. If 649 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 1: they're not people. Recent the time we've got left, there's 650 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 1: a lot of restaurants. I see this, and I'm the amateur. 651 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 1: There's a lot of empty seats. There are a lot 652 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,399 Speaker 1: of I was in a restaurant last night that shall 653 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 1: go unnamed where it's like, why am I sitting in 654 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 1: the front part? Oh? Because the back part we've closed off? 655 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 1: Why it's it's there is going to be a culling 656 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen. And operators and and chefs like Mario Batali, 657 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 1: Can Friedman, April Bloomfield, you know, God bless them. They've 658 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,399 Speaker 1: they've worked out what works in the market and they 659 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 1: have that experience which will probably transform the market. All right, Well, 660 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 1: we have to ask it why the culling? Is it 661 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,400 Speaker 1: related to what we're seeing on Wall Street with the 662 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 1: not just the markets down in the turmoil we've seen, 663 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 1: but the layoffs that we're seeing in all the major banks. Um. 664 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 1: I suspect there's probably very little to do with with 665 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 1: a bank relationship. I think it's much more to do 666 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 1: with the fact that there are so many restaurants. So 667 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 1: if you wind up with unemployed people seeing their apartments, 668 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 1: they haven't stopped going out. They don't suddenly say, oh, 669 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,359 Speaker 1: we're not going out, but they may just that there 670 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,839 Speaker 1: are far too many restaurants around them, and that they're 671 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 1: only going to go to the places that they absolutely 672 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 1: like and maybe where they're not going to wind up 673 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 1: with a nine hundred thousand dollar tab. We haven't had 674 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,360 Speaker 1: a chance really to talk to you about the outlook 675 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,799 Speaker 1: for two thousand and sixteen. Yet you bring up an 676 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 1: interesting point when you're talking about um Bloomfield and freemen 677 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:23,359 Speaker 1: moving into the East fifties. Uh, do we see any 678 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:28,360 Speaker 1: kind of rotation in hot neighborhoods for the year ahead? Um, 679 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 1: there's certainly going to be something like a rotation. I've 680 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 1: said it again, and maybe the gods will strike me down, 681 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 1: but for sure, the link to the banking segment, or 682 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: to our industry, the financial industry, is that suddenly all 683 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 1: those hedge fund guys and uh ladies of the universe 684 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 1: might have been putting money like Mike have been putting 685 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,359 Speaker 1: who have been putting money? All of a sudden they 686 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,400 Speaker 1: are They're picking up the phones and calling those people 687 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,399 Speaker 1: like Stumptown Coffee and a few of the others who 688 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 1: got some venture capital back in the day and saying 689 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 1: where where is our money? By the way, and I 690 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,800 Speaker 1: want it back in the next three to six months. 691 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 1: So there is definitely going to be a change around town. 692 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 1: So it wouldn't surprise me if we start to see 693 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 1: more going down. Is there one trend that we can 694 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 1: already identify for two thousand sixteen in what's going to 695 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 1: be popular? Um, certainly a move with with the Chipotle scare, 696 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: with with the markets being very very unbalanced at the moment, 697 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 1: I would certainly see that people are going to move 698 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 1: towards healthier foods. Um this what I what's called the 699 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 1: local vore trend. So what we do have ken and 700 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 1: making uh making the making burgers. Not everybody wants to 701 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 1: go to a vegetarian restaurant now, but everybody wants to 702 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 1: go to an old stake restaurant. So everybody wants to 703 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 1: go to a place very along the sweet green model 704 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 1: of something that is healthy, but where you can also 705 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,360 Speaker 1: get a burger? Or can I ask one quick question? 706 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 1: Are we overkill yet? Kale was so two thousand and 707 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 1: you know a let we are absolutely burger back. We 708 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 1: are back to Peter Earlio. Are you gonna be here 709 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 1: for like more than two days? Peter Elliott with a 710 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 1: wonderful Bloomberg reserve. Lots of it about like coming up, 711 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 1: like the days are getting longer, and you may go 712 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 1: to New York Litchfield or the Hampton's in Boston, Kate, 713 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 1: where do they go in Washington? They go to the shore, 714 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:25,880 Speaker 1: Peter l It's gonna be done a lot of that. 715 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 1: As we moved into two thousand sixteen, the Dow, we 716 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,400 Speaker 1: we have a rally off of the horrific market of 717 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 1: eight am negative one seventy two on the Dow, the 718 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 1: vixed twenty eight point zero six. Please stay with Bloomberg 719 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,879 Speaker 1: Radio through the morning on these markets, uh in the 720 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 1: turmoil that we see. This is Bloomberg surveillance. Good morning,