1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to seventy three, 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: Episode two of Days I a production. That's right, He's back, folks, 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: a production of My Heart Radio. This is a podcast 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: where we take a deep dive into America's share consciousness. 5 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: It's Tuesday, January thirty one, which of course means last 6 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 1: day of January. By day of January. Also probably not 7 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: my kid's birthday because the child is not on earth yet, 8 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: So that's why I'm back. Just it's touching gold, folks. 9 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: But National thirty one, I said, National January. It's National 10 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: thirty one plan for a vacation day, National Backwards Day, 11 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:43,279 Speaker 1: Inspire your Heart with Art Day, and National Hocolate Day. 12 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: I felt like Hot Chocolate Day, said whatever. I hate. 13 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: I hate the fact that there are things like that, 14 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: like inspire your heart with art that is a good 15 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: sentiment that nobody should be ashamed of like having or 16 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: partaking in. But like I can't not see it in 17 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: that font that like wine mom font, you know, like 18 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 1: like yeah, been stitched into a pillow or whatever. The 19 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: imagery is just fantastic. It's a it's a it's a 20 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: small child with their like hide hands like they were 21 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: doing Thaidie finger paint. So if that doesn't inspire your heart, Jack, 22 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: I don't know what will. How did they do that? 23 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: Wanna That's the whole thing, dude, inspire your heart. Art 24 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 1: just inspired your heart. That art inspired my heart. Now 25 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: go to some artie to be a competitive parent. I'm like, 26 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: we need to do that art project. We're like, what 27 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: you got kids. My name's Jack O'Brien, ak Potatoes O'Brien, 28 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: and I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my 29 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: co host, Mr Miless Miles Gray a k A. Big 30 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: Daddy Grain almost almost I will be there, but yeah, 31 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: it's I was just saying I can't leave y'all part 32 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: of me, just if I'm like if I'm like, if 33 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: I have the voice in my body, I get on 34 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: the mic. That and also I just wanted to kick 35 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: it with our guest today, So yeah, yeah, this is uh, 36 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: that makes a lot of sense. This is long overdue 37 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: Bill to be joined in our third seed. One of 38 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: my favorite humans, one of my favorite creatives. He also 39 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: co founded a humor magazine, Mental Philosophy, ran the New 40 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 1: York studio for I Heeart Well Great Podcast, part Time 41 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: Genius before moving on to start Kaleidoscope, a very exciting 42 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: podcast studio and hosts the show star Line Drive. Please 43 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 1: welcome to the show, the brilliant, the talented man Gashatika Off. 44 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: I feel like that was too nice an introduction, man, 45 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: you heavy man. Big fans over here, big fans, Her majesty, 46 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: hold the baby for another day. I could be here 47 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: for the hold on, hold on, let me look at it. 48 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: If this is right, full disclosure, Her majesty, have the 49 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: pregnancy salad, which is this thing in l A that 50 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: supposedly like induces labor but like it's just like a 51 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: t MZ like l a myth basically. But it's funny 52 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:19,839 Speaker 1: when you go they make you sign a book is ship. 53 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: They're like, oh you haven't, okay, you gotta fill out 54 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: the book then, and it's just wild. I'm like they 55 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: have a God complex about it there, like put your 56 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 1: name in the Book of life, right, like leave your 57 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: inscription pond the wall for the other travelers that are curious. 58 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: But it's such a scam to me, like because you're 59 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: dealing with something too, and it also didn't work. It's 60 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: just it's but it's brilliant, right because for people don't know. 61 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: There's like this thing is like the pregnancy salad and 62 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: what it's supposed to do. People come like when they're 63 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: around the time they're expecting, they have it and supposedly 64 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: would induce labor. But like you're already dealing with people 65 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: that are like very close to having a child anyway, 66 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: So you can describe it to fucking anything, you know 67 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: what I mean. It like you'd be like l a water, 68 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, take two SIPs l a 69 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: water every day. But is there anything special about the salad, 70 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: like it's a spicy or is there like no, I 71 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: guess I fucking down like a couple. Like I was like, hey, 72 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: brings something actually dressing real quick because I wanted to 73 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: know because all I knows it's the dressing, right, Yeah, 74 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: there's something in the dress. It's a straight up vinaigrette. 75 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: It's just a big that's I'm like, this is genius. 76 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: This is genius. They don't know. But you put a 77 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: placebo affecting people's heads. I love that. And they're just 78 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 1: making bank off. There were so many other pregnant people 79 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 1: there was wild. Yeah, I misunderstood what the pregnancy salad was, 80 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: and I ate just bushels of that ship trying to 81 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: get a junior situation, but it had been good for 82 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: the show's visibility and did not work out. Disappointed a 83 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: lot of people that day ecut to me, I was like, Jack, 84 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: that's not how it works, man, I don't know. Maybe 85 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: it's like a big type situation where you interacted this magical, 86 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: mundane thing and the impossible. Yeah, these are exciting, terrifying times. 87 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: So glad to spend them with you. Miles. Yeah, and 88 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: I guess you're also daddy. What what's am? I? Am? 89 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: I ever gonna not be nervous in anticipation of this 90 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: child coming up? Or were you cool, calm and collected 91 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 1: because everything I'm I was telling Jack earlier, I'm like, 92 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: I'm just a wreck right now. When the fund is 93 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: when's it coming? I was? I was so anxious. But 94 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: I was also trying to like finish all these like 95 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: like we had a cover story and the author dropped 96 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: out or the writer dropped out, and so I ended 97 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: up writing it. So I was like, I was like 98 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 1: trying to get Lizzie to like hold off like having 99 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: this kid and tell us finished. So but um, but yeah, 100 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: I mean I I was anxious the whole time. I 101 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: was actually the whole like the first few months. It's crazy, 102 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: you have an alien in your house. I'm cool with that. 103 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: I've always been an alien in my house. So I 104 00:05:55,960 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 1: went on this, uh, this astrology for the reporting for 105 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: the show, I went to India and visit all these 106 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: like crazy astrologers and things, and like one of these 107 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: guys told me that like he was talking about black 108 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: magic and all this black magic that had been put 109 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: on him and like how he found this amulet and 110 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: he burned in and reversed the curse on these people. 111 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: And then he was like and also, Tamil's the most 112 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 1: important language in India. It's the only language aliens understand. 113 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: It's like I was not expecting any of this, but 114 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: particularly that part, like Tamil Hubris coming at me the 115 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: one language. So yeah, the show seems amazing, and it 116 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: sounds like the research has been pretty a journey, I 117 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: guess to say the least. Yeah, it's been wild. I 118 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: mean like it's it's one of those things that like 119 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: I did it kind of as a lark because I 120 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: knew that astrology was ridiculous, but also like a part 121 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: of my life like my parents were only married because 122 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: there um charts matched, and and like and my mom's 123 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: chart had something that said, like he couldn't have a 124 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: mother in law or her mother in law would die, 125 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: and like my dad had lost his mom as a baby, 126 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: and so like they got paired up as a result 127 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: of that. They were like each other and and and 128 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: so like they went on dates and wrote letters and 129 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: all this stuff and then decided they did like each other. 130 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: But but like so like I'm here because of astrology, 131 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: whether or not I believe in it, you know, we're 132 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: just like like this, but like we met the first 133 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: astrologer who was on CNN. Like in the early days 134 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: of CNN, they were just trying to figure out like 135 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: how to get ratings, so they put an astrologer on 136 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: like like hey, uh, there's that page in the newspaper 137 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: and we're a news channel, so fuck it, let's give 138 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: it a shot. Should we also have a crossword puzzle? 139 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: But she was like like she was like all these 140 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: anchors would like deride me on like on air, and 141 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: then asked me to do their charts right after, Like 142 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: and the thing, I feel like that's the my my 143 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: brain doesn't want to believe in it. But then like 144 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: all these things happen in my life and I'm like, man, like, 145 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: so I got I can't admit, like we're gonna cut 146 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: this ship. I'm not adjusting, you're cutting this. But I like, like, 147 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: I think I told you this when you were telling 148 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: me that you're going to do this show. That like 149 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: my three best friends and my wife are all born 150 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: within a day of one another. Yeah, like all the 151 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: first people that I hired it cracked. We're all like 152 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: born in the same week. And like all the ship 153 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 1: that you know, I'm not I'm obviously not checking for 154 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 1: but it's checking for me whether you like it or not. 155 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 1: Jack Well, I mean that the crazy serious thing that 156 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: happened to me was like I went in as a 157 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: lark and and my friend A J. Jacobs, who's this writer, 158 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: he was like, you should just like follow everything the 159 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 1: strolger says to the word, so like hire someone. And 160 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: when they when the strolger is like that person isn't 161 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 1: right for your show that you got let him go 162 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: and it's like good tape or whatever. And and he 163 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: during our reading, it was like all a really nice 164 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 1: reading and and except he said, like your dad is 165 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 1: gonna fall ill and might not make it through this year. 166 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: And then like twenty minutes after our session, I was 167 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: like hang out with my cousin at the shop, and 168 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: I got this text from my dad that was like, 169 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: I have metastatic cancer. We didn't realize this is a 170 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: threat to my body. And it's like, yeah, I mean 171 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: it was. It was awful, But it's also like one 172 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: of those things that like there are things that are 173 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: just so eerie that they're hard to discount, you know, 174 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: and and and so like you don't want to believe 175 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: in something, and at the same time, like once someone 176 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: said something, suddenly it gains this new truth or something. 177 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, pregnancy salad, you know. Reader, We had somebody, 178 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 1: We had somebody who was going to tell us what 179 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,839 Speaker 1: the sex of our second child was going to be 180 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: based on the rolls of fat in our first child's thighs. 181 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: And she like had an annulet like we didn't like 182 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: go to her or like she was for her first child, 183 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: and she had it like put an ammulet over him 184 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: and like went back and forth and was like, oh, 185 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: it's a it's a girl for for certain, and we 186 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 1: she was like talking to us through it, and she 187 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 1: was like, except sometimes it's the opposite. I was like, 188 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: you know, there's only two options. It could be that 189 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 1: could be the what I said to Yeah, there's this 190 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 1: story I heard about this guy in the Middle East 191 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 1: who who is a sonographer and he looks at baby's 192 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 1: palms in utero and then tells rich moms the exact 193 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,719 Speaker 1: moment that they should have a c section so that 194 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: their baby will have the like perfect birth going forward. 195 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: And so like I talked to ob g Winz about 196 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: this in India and they're like, yeah, people come in 197 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 1: and they're like I need my kids lived in this 198 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,599 Speaker 1: exact nineties second window and like and they have to 199 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: do that, and otherwise they lose business or ever, right, 200 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: and so like it's this craziness around babies. But I 201 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:04,719 Speaker 1: was asking him. I was like, what about this guy 202 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: who reads palms in utero. He's like, first of all, 203 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: like I have the best scenography equipment in the world, 204 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: and like, you can't read a baby's palm in it. 205 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: And and secondly, most babies hold their palms and fists 206 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 1: and so reader, they're like, how you gonna see their palms? 207 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: I've seen them, I'm seeing them don't. Don't you think 208 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: that that salad place should be just like selling it's 209 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: dressing though, like you do, like you can buy it again. 210 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: Like it's just I think with everything, like whether it's 211 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: astrology or pregnancy salads, there's always a fun to think 212 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: that there just might be something that we can't quite 213 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: fathom that has like a power that we can tap into. 214 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: So I get that. But just me looking at like 215 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 1: just the grim nature of our capitalist economy, I'm like, 216 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: holy sh it, dude, you can start a fucking racket 217 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 1: with a bunch of things. It's like, yo, dude, you 218 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: have this bobo right, Oh my god, you can get 219 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: birth within at least four weeks of that, but you 220 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: gotta happen when your thirty six weeks pregnant. And it's like, 221 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,719 Speaker 1: sure the map there works out, but you know, we 222 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: all do what we got too deferred results. You do, 223 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,959 Speaker 1: like you're eat this salad and your child in their 224 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: thirties will have the greatest run of luck ever, Right, 225 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, that that might work, like just 226 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: very very specific things. Yeah, yeah, like a like a 227 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: thousand dollar Ivy League salad. Rightly, Yeah, there it is 228 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: ship okay, exactly that is a kind of dumb ship 229 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 1: that like happened in like New York or LA. Yeah, 230 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: eighteen years, you had an eighteen year window, right, But also, 231 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: you know the way that Ivy League schools work is actually, 232 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 1: you know, if if a family has enough money to 233 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: spend on a thousand dollars salad, they'll probably like but 234 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: don't read into the data too much. It's causation cas alright, man, 235 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: I guess we're gonna get to know you a little 236 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: bit better in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our 237 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 1: listeners a couple of things we're talking about. We're gonna 238 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 1: talk about the Memphis Police Department who apparently gave a 239 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: white cop a slap on the wrists and no murder 240 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: charge because you know, there was a white officer who 241 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: was present and tazing and yeah, just all around. Still 242 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: dealing with the fallout from that. So we're we're gonna 243 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: talk about the Tyree Nichols case. We're gonna talk about 244 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 1: cancel culture striking again. Louis c. K Man like he 245 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,839 Speaker 1: had a sold out show at Madison Square Garden. I 246 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,839 Speaker 1: didn't even hear about it. He really did. Yeah, he 247 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: had a sold out show at Medison Square Card Good. Yeah, 248 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about there's a bunch of pandemic themed 249 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: movies comedies coming our way, and I'm just curious particularly yeah, 250 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 1: to get you guys thoughts on like what it feels 251 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: like we don't want to watch I I at least 252 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: will speak personally, don't want to watch pandemic themed content 253 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: at all. And I remember when during the pandemic, I 254 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: was very hungry for pandemic themed content, like you know, 255 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: people grappling with all of this, and was went back 256 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: to be like, well, it's surely they were like great, 257 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: you know, novels written during the night pandemic, and like 258 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: the big one was written like thirty years later, and 259 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: that's still the best thing that I've written. Kim was 260 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: The Plague. But the best thing I've read is Kim 261 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: is the play hold on that you You wrote him 262 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: the Plague? Yeah, I wrote it. A few people realize 263 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: that and that they were like this guy should edit Cracked. 264 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: Yes exactly, you should start a humor magazine. But the yeah, 265 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. I So I'm just curious, like what 266 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: we think it is, just like people are ready to 267 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: move on. Is there something about you know, we're we're 268 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: still there's World War One movie that's nominated for an 269 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: Academy Award this year, So like War obviously photographs better 270 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: than plague, but still it's like something that makes more 271 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: of a cultural imprint, and pandemics just don't. It's like 272 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: they're written and disappearing anchor something. So I want to 273 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: talk about that other stuff. But first man guests, we 274 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: do like to ask our guest, what is something from 275 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: your search history. So recently Miles and I have been 276 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: working on the show about a Robin Hood character, which 277 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: which I'm super psyched about and Miles is incredible in. 278 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: But coming out in April, yeah, I think may look. No, 279 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: we're working on just so you know, this isn't a joke, 280 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: This is gonna be a dope. Yeah, I'm I'm actually 281 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: really excited. This is the first like narrative kind of 282 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: podcast I've been I've hosted a voice so yeah, but 283 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: go on, go on there. We're sending a reporter out 284 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: next week to various parts of Grease to to chase 285 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: down some of these myths of where this guy is 286 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: hanging out, this fugitive and one of the places that 287 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: we're sending him is mount Athos. Have you have you 288 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: heard of Mount Athos? Yeah, it's it's this peninsula increase, 289 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: and it is super strange. And I only just read 290 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: about something like I'm reading about it in sort of 291 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: like real time. But but it is this place that's 292 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: supposed to be like super sacred to Christianity, and and 293 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: so like the Russian Orthodox Church is there, the Greek 294 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: Orthodox Church is there. But the craziest part about it 295 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: is no women can go on and go into Mount Athos. 296 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: But like so even the animals there are all male. 297 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: They don't have any female animals. They're reverse Jurassic Park, 298 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: reverse Jurassic Park, fucking in cell Jurassic Park. And and 299 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: it's like because the it's sort of this like tax 300 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: haven slash, like Paradise splash whatever. I remember reading about 301 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: this in the like I think Michael Lewis wrote like 302 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: an article about the financial collapse in Greece's roll in it, 303 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: and there was a bunch of it set in Mount Athos. First, 304 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 1: that's definitely right, and and so like Putin apparently has 305 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: hidden a lot of funnel a lot of money through 306 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: the Russian Orthodox Church that's there. And it's these two 307 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: like rival Orthodox church on this one island where it's 308 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: only men and it's just like the this fascinating strange place. 309 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: And and apparently in like the nineteen fifties there was 310 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: a Greek reporter a woman who was sort of like 311 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 1: reached the island for three days before she was caught. 312 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: Like but but but they're like people who are constantly 313 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 1: trying to get on the island or get get onto 314 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: this peninsula and and and can't make it on wow, 315 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: okay due to the ecosystem, Like well, like they can't 316 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: control everything, right, and how do they police the birds 317 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: flying in and out? I just have like world's best 318 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: chicken sexors out. They're just like checking on every bird. 319 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: Well they don't they friendly only have eggs on Easter 320 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: like like they don't. I. I don't know the specifics 321 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: of it, but I but I know that like there's 322 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: there's like a pastoral land and they're only bulls there, 323 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 1: and there's like the only birds that chirp for supposedly 324 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: male male What what's the logic of it? Is it 325 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 1: like some Adam and Eve stuff like where they're like 326 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 1: you know, you know what happens when the females are 327 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: around it is it is partially yeah like likesion and 328 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: but but but also but also they land that I 329 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: can't have those on what the fun is going on here? 330 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: What it supposedly it's the only like the only woman 331 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: who's been on the land is the virsion Mary. Like 332 00:18:55,760 --> 00:19:02,479 Speaker 1: it's so yeah, there's like a whole story. The way 333 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: to keep its sacred is just a bunch of lonely 334 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: men cranking off like like men's weekends. It feels it 335 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: feels right, Yeah, there's an article we're probably not gonna 336 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: have time to get to, but it's all about like 337 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 1: the crisis of men in the modern world, and it's 338 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: it it's not written from like the men's rights movement, 339 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 1: but it's like just men are doing worse in school, 340 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: like by like drastically like boys are doing worse than school. 341 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: Or it's just like this sort of global thing across 342 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: societies that men are struggling. And this feels like I 343 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: don't have the explanation, but the need to create this 344 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 1: this sort of thing where it's like just just us, 345 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: me and my boys can be ourselves like without women 346 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: aroundably probably has something to do with cis. Yeah, you're 347 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: dealing with like who thousand year old cultural norms and 348 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: you're wondering why people are struggling in the year. But 349 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: what you could do is so like we could burp 350 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: without having to say excuse me or like it's just 351 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: like so mad. That's so tight, dude. As for the fellas, 352 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: what can I says my ultimate man cave? Now that's great. 353 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break. We'll come back 354 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: and talk more, get to know you better, and we're back. 355 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: And man, guess what is something you think is overrated? 356 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 1: I think Bono is overrated? Whoa and and I don't 357 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: mean I mean like I like Bono himself as a musician, 358 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: I guess and and like but dude, what wait what 359 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: what you were just talking about? How chill mount at 360 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 1: those dido is overrated? I'll tell you why. I think 361 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 1: why I think Bono's overrated because every time someone pitches 362 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: you a podcast and they're like searching for relevance, they 363 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 1: pitched that they're going to get Bono on the podcast. 364 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 1: The idea that like, you know that this is gonna 365 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: change whether or not a podcast works is like ludicrous 366 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: to me. But it's always like no, no, no, they 367 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: said they were gonna have Bono on, we should like 368 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: sign him to the three show deal, you know, like 369 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: like Bono was the bane of my existence like at 370 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 1: my Heart and and uh and now I feel like 371 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 1: like people throw it out, like it's like you're still 372 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 1: seeing Bo's face on a deck for a show. I've 373 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: never heard Bono on a podcast. I mean, like I'm 374 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: sure he's been on a podcast, but like he's not 375 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: going to come on your real estate podcast to talk 376 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: about like you know, fancy New York apartments, Like that's 377 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: not gonna happen. And what's going on? And yeah with 378 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: like how he's diversifying his portfolio as he gets older 379 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: kind of ship like that happening, But it is funny 380 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: yet to your point, just some inside industry baseball, like 381 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: when we we've looked at pitches for shows at my Heart, 382 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: like there is there is something he is, like an 383 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: ever present like potential hosts that a lot of people 384 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: are like, yeah, and this thing about Tupac's unsolved murder, 385 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: You're like, no, no, you're not. What are you you 386 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: talking about? Just because he did like a show with 387 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: one of the producers fifteen years ago, Like no, like 388 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 1: and no one wants to see that ship or here. 389 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: But that's like that's exactly how tangential like Bono is 390 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: to so many of these things, and he still shows 391 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: up everywhere. It's like climate change, like HIV aids. I 392 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: think there was another pitch where it was about something 393 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: like with the eighties or something, and then also having 394 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 1: Bono voice that were like, yeah, he anything that touches Africa. 395 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,239 Speaker 1: It's it's like, oh, we we got the present for us. 396 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: You know, remember Project Red or sept What is something 397 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: that's just so wild that that like I feel like 398 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: I can't get past them. Sorry, I can't both past 399 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: like the cool the coolest possible. A lot of people haven't. Yeah, 400 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: I think it reveals that like cool factor or the 401 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 1: age of the person putting the deck together, you know 402 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: what I mean. Dude, this thing about Crypto, Dude, you 403 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: know he's sick to hostess fucking what? No. Yeah, it's 404 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: like it's Hamilton's but older like Hamilton's but more irrelict. 405 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: Like I feel like it was irrelevant when Hamilton's like 406 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: you know how Hamilton's just like aged like bananas, and 407 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 1: now it's just like I thought it was so cool 408 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: when it first came out. Now I'm like, I can't 409 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 1: listen to a single song without like stringing at this ship, 410 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: and like I actually never really fucked with you two, 411 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 1: but like I've never either, Yeah, we never funked with 412 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: you two. Man you at the band? Okay, yeah, but yeah, 413 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: it's uh, it's to that point though. I feel like 414 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 1: we also see lin Manuel Miranda as a host pitched 415 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: as a host too. Yeah, you know, like certain things 416 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: like someone like lin Manuel Miranda. So I guess we 417 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: always have. I guess is he are new Banu? Is 418 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 1: this all to say? Is lin Manuel Miranda taking the 419 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 1: mantle for Bano? I don't know. I actually got a 420 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: text from one of the I guess the agencies have 421 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: ears in our recording studio because they just told me 422 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 1: I can kiss any future of having a Hamiltons cast 423 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: member on TDZ goodbye. So well, we already booked a 424 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: v digs good luck. What is something, man, guest, do 425 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: you think is underrated? So? I feel weird saying this. 426 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: The arts with hearts today that you push in the beginning, 427 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,360 Speaker 1: So I think clubs and making your own clubs are 428 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: are underrated. Because Ruby my kid, and I like I 429 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: was traveling a lot, like not finding more like time 430 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: for stuff. And then we decided to have like a 431 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: Tuesday night art club where we like make mocktails and 432 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: then do art and uh and and Ruby makes like 433 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: a mix of music for it. And now like people 434 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 1: want to come to Tuesday night art club and it's 435 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 1: like it's like something so small and simple and there's 436 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: like nothing that goes on. But it's just like, I 437 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: don't know, it's it's awesome. So I feel like when 438 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: you put a label on something, it's it just makes 439 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: it like more fun. And so yeah, so what's like, 440 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: give me, give me an idea like that. You know, 441 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: it's the hottest club in town. People are banging on 442 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: the door saying, hey, I brought females with me. The 443 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: ratios are right. I want to be part of the 444 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: You like, what's the kind of like what kind of 445 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: like what was the last art project you made? So 446 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: we took we took a bunch of like cardboard and 447 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: make these giant faces out of them, like include them 448 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: together and stuff. But like we're gonna do like a 449 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: sneaker project where we just like call like paint sneakers together. 450 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna like okay stuff like that, like like white 451 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 1: slip on canvas shoes or whatever. Yeah, like fans and 452 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: just get a bunch of POSTCA markers and and like yeah, 453 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: see now I'm already like, yeah, how do hey, how 454 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: do I get in? Yeah? But is it? Is it 455 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: like through a laundromat? Like do you have to walk 456 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: through a laundromat? Like the hottest fourth dryer on the left. Yeah, 457 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: it's like but honestly, like like now somebody and more 458 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: of my friends are getting like sober and they don't 459 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 1: have things to do, like and you know, the evenings 460 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: and like, and I have a kid, and I'm not 461 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: gonna like like I still have to own being a 462 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: dad and so like it's like an awesome way to 463 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: to sort of force my friends to hang out with 464 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: me and like and hang out with my kids. So 465 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: it's amazing. I love it. I'm going to steal that idea. 466 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: It's worful. Yeah, and I'm not gonna site you boys 467 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: guess what daddy just thought of on his own right now. 468 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: But I mean, but but like you know anything like 469 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: my my I have some friends who do this like 470 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: weekend in America and they just pick like you know, 471 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 1: a different strange place they haven't been. And once, like 472 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: you know, well once every three months four months, they 473 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: take a field trip to this place and they have 474 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 1: T shirts and like suddenly a T shirt makes something 475 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: feel like more real or something that's Oh, that's great. 476 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: The weekend in America, if they like discovered any under 477 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: known about gems uh, I forget they told me about 478 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: somewhere they went, yeah, yeah, you'll have to cut them on. 479 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 1: I'm not telling it. You're you're about to answer the question. No, 480 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: I mean that they were talking about some like like 481 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: in Montana. There's some old like like the oldest Chinese 482 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: restaurant in America, I think Montana and the and like so, 483 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: so they went out there and like you know, the 484 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: cowboys stuff. But then also like eight old Chinese foods 485 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: m not Chinese. Yeah wow the pek in Noodle Parler, 486 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 1: built in nine nine, the oldest continuously operating Chinese restaurant 487 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 1: the United States in Butte, Montana. Wow, we just blew 488 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: up Butte Montana. Yeah, beauty. Uh, sorry about that. Sorry. 489 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: Never run with hipsters. Hey, set your airbnb rates high now, 490 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: you know it just just't make that money while you 491 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: can because they're cut ahead of the surge. Alright, let's 492 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: talk about the Memphis Police. So on Monday yesterday, they 493 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: confirmed that a sixth officer have been placed on administrative 494 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: leaving can action with the death of Tyree Nichols. Preston 495 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: hemp Hill, the one white cop who was involved and 496 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: who is not facing murder charges. H he hasn't been fired. 497 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: He is the previously unidentified white officer who pushed Nichols 498 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: to the ground and then hit him with a taser 499 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: and I believe could be heard yelling on one of 500 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: the videos. I hope they stomps his s at one 501 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: point and he's just so he's just on time out. Yeah, 502 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: he's just on time out. So there you know, any 503 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: any speculation that, oh it's I think you spent you 504 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: said miles, Like it's weird how they were so quick 505 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: to the b Yeah, listen to all what we've been 506 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: saying all along, how they should deal with this ship 507 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: by like when when every officer involved is black and 508 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: but then but not like this. It's like but unless 509 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: there's a white guy, in which case his white supremacy 510 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: will also protect that person in the commission of a Yeah, yeah, 511 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: but uh it's it's this I wish we just like 512 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: could reach the point in like mainstream discourse where we 513 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: can just stop. Like we just called policing a failed experiment, 514 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 1: and that's just being that's being very charitable even calling 515 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: it an experiment, given the origins of policing. But like 516 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: you know, like there's countless deaths, there's countless videos of 517 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: people abusing their power and being in brutalizing innocent people, 518 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: and our reflex is to immediately try to problem solve, 519 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: like as if this whole system of policing is like 520 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: a man like a malfunctioning So no speaker that just 521 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: needs to be unplugged real quick and then plug back 522 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: in and then it'll start working like it needs oh wait, 523 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: maybe see to update the software that's the problem. When 524 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: really now the ship is broken and it's not worth 525 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: continuing to try and think that we can solve our 526 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: problems through this very narrow lens. And so like we 527 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: can't expect any other outcome aside from the one we're seeing, 528 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: because the whole concept is are just predict hated on 529 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: the idea that our society's issues stem from dangerous hoodlums 530 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: or someone having a mental health crisis, rather than the 531 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: fact that we are being preyed upon by the wealthy 532 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: and the powerful, and the proof of that predation is 533 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: in how our social fabric is deteriorating before our eyes 534 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: and the desperation that we see in our communities. That's 535 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: that's what we need. That's the fucking boogee, man, we 536 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 1: gotta go after not what's this motherfucker doing in this 537 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: part of town? Beat him up? Shoot him? Why is 538 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: this person yelling? And gotta stick shoot him? Like, we're 539 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: not fucking We're not, We're not dealing with the actual issues. 540 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: And again we're just we'd rather do this thing where 541 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: we're holding onto this broken fucking system and not just 542 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: not just looking back and like, Yo, there's not a 543 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: single thing you can show me that that indicates to 544 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,479 Speaker 1: me that this works, right, that's all the only thing. 545 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: The only thing it does is continue to be a 546 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: venue for increased spending. That's the only thing I've seen 547 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: go up in a positive way, quote unquote. And that's 548 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: where people that are invested in the carceral state. Yeah, 549 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: a lot of money gets spent. And also, you know, 550 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: there's an argument that like this is working the way 551 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: it was intended to work, you know, like that this 552 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: is from the early days of American police being founded 553 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: as a like slave patrol up to today. Like that, 554 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: it feels like there's a pretty straight line that would 555 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: suggest that this is what they had in mind. And yeah, 556 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: people are getting rich off of it, and it feels 557 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: like they just try and weather this ship, you know, 558 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: just get get it past so it can keep doing 559 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: what we wanted to do. And to see, like I 560 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: mean in New York, the library budget got caught so 561 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: that police brought to go up. You know, it's like 562 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: these are places that are like lending ties to people 563 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: so that they can go on job you know, for 564 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: job interviews and like doing all this training and all 565 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: this incredible community work and like you know, for for 566 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: more policing. Like it just it just feels ludicrous. Three 567 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: percent of US counties increased funding for police departments in 568 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: two Like at this time when we're supposedly like as 569 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 1: supposed to be out on police, they the whole and 570 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: like you hear people like Bill Maher over the begin 571 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: it's like, well, I mean, look, the cops were black 572 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: that murdered him, So it might be that this this 573 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: issue is bigger. It's not just about race or like 574 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: I don't think race has anything to do like dismissing 575 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: that it's it's it's really just about white supremacy. The 576 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: police are. They uphold the system of white supremacy, So 577 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what you look like. When you enter 578 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: that system, you are you are there to uphold it. 579 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: So it's not a mystery that it's like, wow, how 580 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: could they do that? Because you hear people also say 581 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: we just need more cops that live in the communities 582 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: they patrol, or what if we just have more black cops, 583 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: But the research doesn't show that that has does fucking anything, 584 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: that has very minimal impact, if any, because again, like 585 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: we're saying, at the end of the day, you're sending 586 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:08,320 Speaker 1: these people into cities as police and the game is predetermined, 587 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,760 Speaker 1: which means that these people think that they are peacekeepers 588 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 1: dealing with some insurgent population that they have to defend 589 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: themselves from. And I also have like quotas to meet 590 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 1: and like yeah, I mean it's I mean, so what 591 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,320 Speaker 1: do they do, what serving? What what safety are they providing? 592 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,879 Speaker 1: Robin panaky on WANCT put together like an exhaustive list 593 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: of statistics that just point to that underline, like what 594 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: the funk like two percent of violent crimes are actually 595 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: solved by the police four percent of police time four 596 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,399 Speaker 1: percent is the time that police spend devoted to dealing 597 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: with violent crimes in any capacity, which is the only 598 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,240 Speaker 1: percent that you hear every time you bring up defunding 599 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: the police, investing in alternatives to policing. They people are 600 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: always what are you gonna do when someone shows up 601 00:34:55,680 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 1: your house with a sub automatic? Okay? You know how 602 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 1: about this? Okay, So let's say that happens and you've 603 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 1: got seventy two feral hogs running wild on your property, 604 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 1: you gotta call. Well, five percent of the time is 605 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: the police actually are able to respond to a nine 606 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: one one call in time to prevent violence from happening 607 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 1: or even catching the person. So like we're every like, 608 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 1: the success rates are fucking so low that you're like, well, 609 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: if the whole point is like y'all stop this, y'all 610 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 1: stop that, the numbers don't back it up, so we 611 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 1: need to be we like, but again we're talking about 612 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 1: upending the status quo and like abolishing the policing. But 613 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,359 Speaker 1: as it just logically it's not doing what even it's 614 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 1: supposed to be doing. So from that standpoint, it's a 615 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: fucking l and all it does is created just a 616 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 1: tremendous loss of life. And I don't know, like we 617 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,919 Speaker 1: we have such a problem even defining what we need, 618 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 1: Like it's that like is it policing, you know, we 619 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: need more policing or do we need to ensure that 620 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: our communities are safe? And we need to figure out 621 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,879 Speaker 1: how to ensure that safety because it's not just we'll 622 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: send the fucking patrols out to sweep bullshit up and 623 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: brutalize people, because like we need safety, right, we need 624 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: safety from lack of services or lack of a social 625 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: safety net, or safety from like an economic system that 626 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 1: sorts people into disposable and non disposable and the blink 627 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: of a note Like those are the larger issues, but 628 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:27,919 Speaker 1: we get really if they've done a fantastic job rhetorically 629 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: of like acting like this is a thing, like these 630 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 1: are all like anomalous one off problems, right, rather than 631 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 1: a completely failed thing. So most of us like feel 632 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,919 Speaker 1: like we're walking around and like looking a fun house 633 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 1: mirror where it's like that doesn't look good. Actually, what 634 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 1: I'm seeing, but I guess I'll keep going because the 635 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 1: way we're talking about it is just to be like, 636 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe we can fix that thing a 637 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,800 Speaker 1: little bit. One of the things we talked about, like 638 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 1: this idea that local the local news is like reliant 639 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: on the acific leads, that leads ended the police as 640 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 1: a source. But there's just been so many like cartoonishly 641 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 1: just blatant failures by the police, just constantly, Like I'm 642 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 1: just that that's if if the media wanted to portray 643 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 1: this situation as it was, they would have no shortage 644 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: of evidence of police failing on the job or committing 645 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:33,839 Speaker 1: violent crimes on the job. But instead they really shy 646 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 1: away from it, like I was just every time something 647 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 1: like this happens, I'm just like I just added to 648 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 1: this mentalist with it. Like the child who was being 649 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 1: held hostage by her dad and the police gotten a 650 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 1: massive shootout and just shot her like to death when 651 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 1: she was when she got away from her dad and 652 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,959 Speaker 1: was like running towards them, they were like, we didn't 653 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 1: know if she was armed, and so they shot her 654 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 1: to death. The cop who drove across country kidnapped a 655 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: child and murdered her whole family, like the gold the 656 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,799 Speaker 1: Golden State killer we found out was like, I mean, 657 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 1: this was a couple of years back, but he was 658 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 1: a cop who was using his ability like too, you know, 659 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 1: his access as a cop to commit like one of 660 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,320 Speaker 1: the most heinous like strings of mergers back in the seventies. 661 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 1: And they knew he was a cop because like based 662 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 1: on all the ship that he knew like that. So 663 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 1: it's just there's such a immense body of evidence that 664 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 1: it would be like so easy for local news to 665 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 1: stay like stick with that if it bleeds, it leads 666 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 1: like thing, if that's what they want to show, But 667 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 1: they they don't, like they're they're part of a broad 668 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 1: system that wants to shy away from that reality. Yeah, 669 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 1: it's again to keep you know, so these hedgemonic systems 670 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 1: in place, and there's no there's no appetite to do that. 671 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,919 Speaker 1: And yeah, to your point, it's like you could every 672 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 1: day there's something like, yeah, well guess how they funked 673 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: up again today? Right, you know you could do that, 674 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,760 Speaker 1: you could do that constantly, but instead they're like, wow, 675 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 1: and this guy hit the TikTok dance like challenge, like 676 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: flawlessly with a bunch of school kids. Isn't that amazing? Okay, Well, 677 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 1: later on coming up in the hour, we're gonna talk 678 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 1: about some dogs you can adopt who were shot by 679 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 1: drug dealers. According to the police, they need a home. 680 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 1: Like just every single thing is just fed through this 681 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 1: lens like rhetorically that it's it's it's just always framed 682 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 1: as well, how do we fix this thing that's completely 683 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 1: broken and useless? Right, rather than being like this thing 684 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 1: is broken and completely useless, what the funk are we 685 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 1: gonna do about this? And extremely dangerous? It's broken. It's 686 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 1: like those were you guys young enough that when or 687 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 1: old enough? I guess that that like that, there was 688 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:53,439 Speaker 1: a big health panic around old refrigerators, just like left 689 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 1: in people's yards. I mean, I'm older, but but I don't. 690 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:04,320 Speaker 1: They're remember that. There's like a special episodes about like 691 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 1: old refrigerators because old refrigerators, I guess, used to lock 692 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 1: from the outside when you would close them. Oh, so 693 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 1: people would get like kids get stuck inside. People would 694 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,719 Speaker 1: play hide and seek. There was a very special I 695 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 1: think Punky Brewster where she got trapped inside and they 696 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: found her almost too late. But revived her with CPR. 697 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 1: But anyways, it's broken and it's killing people constantly all 698 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,880 Speaker 1: over the place, like those old refrigeratorgerators. That is a 699 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,719 Speaker 1: reference that everybody understands. But I'm at the same time, 700 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:39,879 Speaker 1: I'm sure Punky brewstered it up copaganda for yeah ship, 701 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean again, it's it's it's it's weird. 702 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 1: How like every day there's like you see the news 703 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 1: when this happens, are like, oh, you know, like it's 704 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,400 Speaker 1: it's just it's just raising more questions about our our 705 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 1: our policing system. But there's just really again, there's no 706 00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,320 Speaker 1: real good faith effort to do anything about because, like 707 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 1: you said, of US counties increase their funding in two 708 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 1: off the heels of all this, like yeah, we got 709 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,479 Speaker 1: to really think about this. It's all lip service because 710 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, like for for us 711 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,319 Speaker 1: to live in a type of world where we're looking 712 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 1: out for who is actually causing harm, it's just it's 713 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,320 Speaker 1: it's actually a threat to the economic system. So like 714 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 1: one very specific change that we could see them make 715 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 1: include crimes committed by police in the crime rate. So 716 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 1: when you fund the police, like the Scorpion Unit, let's 717 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 1: see what happens to fucking violence in the community when 718 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:45,359 Speaker 1: you include all the violence that's being perpetrated by them. Yeah, 719 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 1: what if you drop a scorpion into this precarious situation? 720 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 1: Sounds like a good idea, but yeah yeah, and just 721 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 1: like even the way things are worded, you know, like Scorpion, 722 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 1: like what the fuck feel like? Yeah? They but again 723 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:06,799 Speaker 1: like they can't help people. It's a paramilitary death squad exactly. 724 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 1: They knew exactly what they were doing. This is a 725 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,879 Speaker 1: group called Scorpion doing what you would expect a group 726 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 1: called Scorpion to do. Yeah, not the not the kid 727 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 1: gloves soft touch brigade. Yeah, alright, let's take a quick break. 728 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:28,880 Speaker 1: We'll come back. We'll talk cancel culture and pandemic themed comedies. 729 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:43,840 Speaker 1: We'll be right back, and we're back. And Luis e. 730 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:48,279 Speaker 1: K was trending on Twitter, which is never it's never 731 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,239 Speaker 1: a good thing, rarely hasn't been a good thing in 732 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 1: a while, but this time was because I guess good 733 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:57,799 Speaker 1: for him. His recent Madison Square Garden concert sold out. 734 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:02,800 Speaker 1: Guys killing it. Wow, he can't even kill his own career, 735 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 1: look at him. So TikTok or Italia lick Stune went 736 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,840 Speaker 1: viral by she just like got up and was like, 737 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:15,840 Speaker 1: can we stop canceling guys who are brilliant artists over hearsay, 738 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 1: like yeah, women have stories of him then being creepy, 739 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,920 Speaker 1: but then you know, and yes, their stories may match up. 740 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 1: But because of that, we're gonna just make it so 741 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 1: they can never work again. And as she says that, 742 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 1: like behind her those digital billboard changes to read tonight 743 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:40,320 Speaker 1: louis sold out, so extremely well done. But yeah, I 744 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,719 Speaker 1: don't know. It's cancel culture is like you have to 745 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 1: have a pretend boogie person that that is like made 746 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:52,320 Speaker 1: for for powerless people to feel like it's like effective, 747 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,399 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like like powerful white guys, 748 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, the cancel culture. It's like come on, 749 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,080 Speaker 1: they're even like come on, you know they can't cancel me. 750 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 1: But I'll be like, oh, the cancel culture. But at 751 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 1: the end of the day, societally, we're not we're not 752 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 1: actually ready to hold people to account or of experience 753 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,799 Speaker 1: the kind of see change that would actually be like, yeah, 754 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,840 Speaker 1: you know, what you're doing as foul should actually exclude 755 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,880 Speaker 1: you from like from participating in X, Y and Z 756 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:20,240 Speaker 1: or whatever. But it finds a way now where very quickly, 757 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 1: you know, I think it's I don't know, it just 758 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 1: it has. It has this way where like in the 759 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,800 Speaker 1: beginning you feel like, oh, thank god, look some people 760 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,880 Speaker 1: are like not booking Louis c K. That's good. I 761 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,320 Speaker 1: like what that's indicating. And it gives people a moment 762 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 1: to feel like something like maybe something is happening, but 763 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:37,719 Speaker 1: then it just comes right back. That's why I think 764 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 1: cancel culture is much more effective as like this specter 765 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 1: to raise for like you know, the powerful to deploy 766 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 1: against themselves, because it's not going to do anything. I 767 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 1: mean I I was in a fairly after fairly soon 768 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,520 Speaker 1: after the like LYK stuff like came out, Like I 769 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,520 Speaker 1: was in a room with a with like a newscaster 770 00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,040 Speaker 1: because we're on this like attracting various like podcast. It 771 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,239 Speaker 1: was to the space or whatever, and and and she 772 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 1: was like, I don't even understand what he did. Like 773 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,239 Speaker 1: that that was so bad. And it's like how I mean, 774 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:12,320 Speaker 1: like one just just being in that room with women 775 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 1: and like like you know, not letting them leave and 776 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,320 Speaker 1: and and exposing himself doing all these things was was 777 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,239 Speaker 1: awful in itself, but like the fact that like he 778 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:25,720 Speaker 1: he had his manager, like basically anyone who was about 779 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,200 Speaker 1: to speak out or like wouldn't can assent like like 780 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 1: basically like shut down their career and not get them 781 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,239 Speaker 1: like the any clubs and stuff like like he he 782 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 1: canceled like several women's careers, like you know, like like 783 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 1: like tons of you and and like and I think 784 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:44,719 Speaker 1: like in that mix of of problematic people and men 785 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 1: in particular and whatever, like like somehow because they had 786 00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,279 Speaker 1: different gradations of what they did and their awfulness, like 787 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,800 Speaker 1: people just kind of all forgot like a lot of 788 00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,480 Speaker 1: the worst ones and only kept like the I mean 789 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:04,319 Speaker 1: even like you know, the president who's who's assaulting women 790 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,479 Speaker 1: and whatever, right like like the accountability for him wasn't 791 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,840 Speaker 1: wasn't particularly great and it's not like he got canceled 792 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:11,759 Speaker 1: in a big way, and so like I mean, I 793 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:16,880 Speaker 1: I just think that like I in some ways like 794 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 1: it's it's to me, it's it's this is maybe not 795 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 1: fair thing to say, but like I feel like you 796 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,560 Speaker 1: end up being so numb from like all the accusations 797 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 1: and stuff that people like stop investing in like how 798 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,279 Speaker 1: much how much it's worth? You know, I like to 799 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,359 Speaker 1: not well I think the numbness comes from the lack 800 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:39,560 Speaker 1: of accountability that follows. Yeah, because if if if you 801 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,919 Speaker 1: knew there was there was a cause and effect sort 802 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,680 Speaker 1: of sequence, then you'd be like, yeah, fine. I'm always 803 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 1: outraged to hear that someone's like, you know, experiencing a 804 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,040 Speaker 1: lack of agency or having some kind of transgression they're 805 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,560 Speaker 1: experiencing at the hands of a sexual predator. That should 806 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,799 Speaker 1: That will always be upsetting. But to your point, it's 807 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 1: sort of the same way we feel about mass shootings 808 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 1: or lease violence when it happens over and over and 809 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,840 Speaker 1: over and over again, and you're just like, I'm I 810 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,360 Speaker 1: the only I can't be the only person who this 811 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:11,799 Speaker 1: really bothers, Right, You're being gas lit by your society 812 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,800 Speaker 1: into just being like, y, yeah, no, we we saw that, 813 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:16,759 Speaker 1: we know it. We know that that's bad. That's bad, 814 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 1: that's going to end the world, and we get no, no, no, 815 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,160 Speaker 1: we get it. It's bad. Where we changed our heads 816 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,600 Speaker 1: so that we're now our logo is green. So like 817 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,239 Speaker 1: Louis not on FX anymore, right, Louise Louis lost his 818 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,080 Speaker 1: show on FFX, and I think one one of his 819 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,880 Speaker 1: movies got buried by being like incredibly creepy, like the 820 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,719 Speaker 1: movie That Got Buried was incredibly creepy. But also like 821 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 1: so people are coming through and being like, well, yeah, 822 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:43,680 Speaker 1: he's got fans, what do you want them to do? 823 00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,919 Speaker 1: But like a tour like that counts on like many 824 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 1: institutions to come together. And also he has like subsequently 825 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,680 Speaker 1: made a movie that was released just one a fucking 826 00:47:55,800 --> 00:48:00,680 Speaker 1: Grammy last year, So he's like not, he's not. It's 827 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:05,839 Speaker 1: it's another thing like BP claiming that they're now an 828 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:10,000 Speaker 1: energy company and they're actually part of the solution at 829 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,480 Speaker 1: this point, you know, it's a it's just a cosmetic 830 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:17,640 Speaker 1: change that's being made, and it is I think you 831 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 1: guys right, Like that is what is so maddening about 832 00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:24,080 Speaker 1: it is because we're all like kind of just sitting 833 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,960 Speaker 1: here watching it happen, while people are like no, no, no, 834 00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,640 Speaker 1: like we we do get it. We're doing something in 835 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,640 Speaker 1: response to this, while not doing anything in response to 836 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,759 Speaker 1: it and just watching the problem happen over and over 837 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,600 Speaker 1: again and get worse. The other thing that's maddening is 838 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 1: like so many of these people like should have been 839 00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:45,279 Speaker 1: canceled long before, right, like like like the whispers and 840 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,880 Speaker 1: the rooms about like Louisa kay or like you know, 841 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,879 Speaker 1: the when got up to blind items like you could 842 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,320 Speaker 1: identify like so many of these people and like you 843 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,440 Speaker 1: know Cosby or whoever, Like there's so many people who 844 00:48:56,520 --> 00:49:00,319 Speaker 1: like the industry knows about and just protects because this money. Yeah, 845 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,520 Speaker 1: so many people whose careers were canceled by Harvey Weinstein 846 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,759 Speaker 1: or louise E k like that. The number of people 847 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,560 Speaker 1: whose careers were canceled by them out numbers like their 848 00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:13,040 Speaker 1: careers being canceled, you know, like like like you said, 849 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,640 Speaker 1: so hey, but you know, I gotta like you said, 850 00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,600 Speaker 1: it's an it's an agreement of many different factor of 851 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,720 Speaker 1: our many different bodies and organizations to make it happen. 852 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,319 Speaker 1: And again just more it's it's always indicates. It's like, well, 853 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:29,560 Speaker 1: the public outcries over it aren't enough, you know, because 854 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,200 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it's profitable because they're 855 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,080 Speaker 1: saying something gets so that the only thing that matters, 856 00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,600 Speaker 1: So fuck it. Yeah, like why I switched, Wait what 857 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:40,839 Speaker 1: about renewables? No, that's not profitable, you funck with Keep 858 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:45,879 Speaker 1: pumping the dinosaur farts, that's right, all right. And then 859 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,920 Speaker 1: finally I want to talk about just pandemic themed culture 860 00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:54,480 Speaker 1: pandemic content. So there was a movie that came out 861 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,600 Speaker 1: I think a couple of weeks ago, called Sick, written 862 00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,799 Speaker 1: by Kevin Williamson, person who were at Screw Sam set 863 00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:04,279 Speaker 1: at a secluded cabin during the early days of the pandemic. 864 00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, like I I didn't really hear that 865 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,279 Speaker 1: many people talking about it. There's one coming up with 866 00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:13,279 Speaker 1: Adam Pally, which sounds like great, like I love an 867 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:17,200 Speaker 1: Adam Pally comedy where he's playing an obnoxious asshole. This 868 00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:20,360 Speaker 1: one it's called Who Invited Charlie? And it basically seems 869 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:24,160 Speaker 1: like it's What About Bob set during the quarantine. Even 870 00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:28,480 Speaker 1: the name titles like okay on Mary, What About Bob? 871 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:35,000 Speaker 1: Pretty closely Who Invited Charlie? It's just There's also Life 872 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:38,359 Speaker 1: Upside Down, a romantic comedy that was mostly filmed during 873 00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:43,160 Speaker 1: lockdown with iPhones and iPads that was like, I, I 874 00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,320 Speaker 1: didn't know about that one at all. Is this the 875 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:50,680 Speaker 1: one that with Bob Odenkirk? Yeah? And then there was Yeah, 876 00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,160 Speaker 1: there was also a Jutt app Oh no no no. 877 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,720 Speaker 1: So then there was a Jutt Apatow comedy called The Bubble. 878 00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,279 Speaker 1: I was completely unaware of. I had no idea this 879 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,279 Speaker 1: was a thing. Yeah, is it just isn't like when 880 00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,080 Speaker 1: a like someone puts out an album so bad they're like, 881 00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:07,719 Speaker 1: I just shut then up about that one. We don't 882 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,040 Speaker 1: just talk about. Yes, it came out on Netflix. Was 883 00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,759 Speaker 1: it show bit satire about how the pandemic affected a 884 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:18,480 Speaker 1: blockbuster movie with just like tons of COVID gags that 885 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,560 Speaker 1: were already like kind of stale. It also had a 886 00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:25,080 Speaker 1: thing where I guess they were they were joking about 887 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:26,800 Speaker 1: how like it seems like the people in charge of 888 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:30,520 Speaker 1: safety mandates are making it up on the fly. Oh 889 00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,360 Speaker 1: my god. Yeah, I was just totally unaware. There was 890 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,880 Speaker 1: a jut Apatow movie about how the CDC is like 891 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:42,240 Speaker 1: making up all the COVID safety measures that's appetiles drift 892 00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:46,359 Speaker 1: to the right. Just like yeah, I don't know, but yeah, 893 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,360 Speaker 1: like all these movies seem like they you know, we 894 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,200 Speaker 1: talked during the pandemic, Like I said that, like it 895 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,719 Speaker 1: didn't seem like there was a ton of stuff that 896 00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:58,800 Speaker 1: came out of the nineteen eighteen pandemic and you know, 897 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:03,759 Speaker 1: other than a novel that from Kemu that goes written 898 00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,080 Speaker 1: by me, obviously, they came out like thirty years later, 899 00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,680 Speaker 1: and you know, is is really great and was like 900 00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,200 Speaker 1: kind of the best thing that I read at that 901 00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,040 Speaker 1: time to like help me get my mind around what 902 00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:19,000 Speaker 1: was happening. But I it does feel like the stuff 903 00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:23,479 Speaker 1: is being made, it's just like it's not resonating, which 904 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,719 Speaker 1: I just wonder if it's like some mixture of it 905 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:31,600 Speaker 1: not being a fun thing to watch. No, it's stupid 906 00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:35,680 Speaker 1: people in development who are opportunistic and not realizing what 907 00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,839 Speaker 1: the real development cycle looks like. From when you're like yeah, yeah, yeah, 908 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,040 Speaker 1: green light that thing from Jodd apataw cut to two 909 00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,960 Speaker 1: years later and I was like, what the funk is this? Right? 910 00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,040 Speaker 1: Like it I get like a rapid response. Maybe like 911 00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:48,680 Speaker 1: you're saying. At the time, I was kind of like 912 00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:52,040 Speaker 1: curious about like what stuff would be out there that's 913 00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,000 Speaker 1: reflective of like the situation I'm in. But the more 914 00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:58,480 Speaker 1: we think about it, I'm like the I'm like, I'm 915 00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:02,520 Speaker 1: only filled with discomfort looking back on the like like 916 00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,920 Speaker 1: in the early days and just where we're where we're 917 00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,080 Speaker 1: at today. I think, I mean the other trend I've 918 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,240 Speaker 1: noticed and I mean I guess I wasn't even aware 919 00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,320 Speaker 1: of like how much stuff was coming out about pandemic 920 00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,239 Speaker 1: themed like stories. But I've noticed like a lot of 921 00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:19,040 Speaker 1: body horror and in like films like like the Menu 922 00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:23,960 Speaker 1: has something and then like that Banshees of inneration or 923 00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,920 Speaker 1: whatever that that movie was, and and and it's like 924 00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,440 Speaker 1: there's a lot of like self mutilation or like mutilation 925 00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,520 Speaker 1: that that that's been happening in films too, and and 926 00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,440 Speaker 1: like I don't know, it's it's it's odd to me 927 00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,160 Speaker 1: because like I feel like all after going through that 928 00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,360 Speaker 1: period and then and then seeing headlines like you know 929 00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:43,680 Speaker 1: we were talking about earlier, like all I want to 930 00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,880 Speaker 1: like being is in like spaces of like comedy or 931 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,400 Speaker 1: like you know, things that are joyous or like wondrous 932 00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,880 Speaker 1: or whatever, and and like and and yet like I 933 00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,920 Speaker 1: feel like I keep I keep tuning into comedies and 934 00:53:55,960 --> 00:54:00,399 Speaker 1: then seeing this just's just Australian reaction. I guess, yeah. 935 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,279 Speaker 1: And I wonder if like the you know, like when 936 00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,640 Speaker 1: talking about World War one or something that that's easy 937 00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:08,319 Speaker 1: to sort of wrap your head around, like you're saying 938 00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,120 Speaker 1: jack because it's like war. But like I wonder if 939 00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,920 Speaker 1: like if there is something that's even about this period 940 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,960 Speaker 1: that's written after the fact, if if what the if 941 00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:20,600 Speaker 1: the themes are even gonna really necessarily be about COVID 942 00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:25,200 Speaker 1: nineteen itself or like that it's revealed just a deeper 943 00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:29,840 Speaker 1: societal sickness like that, Like but I don't know if 944 00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:31,239 Speaker 1: but I don't know if we're like they're with the 945 00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:35,360 Speaker 1: commentary yet, like many people are pointing out how fucked 946 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,640 Speaker 1: up the situation is for many people. But I don't 947 00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,680 Speaker 1: know if that's like the main thing we're taking away 948 00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:42,640 Speaker 1: from this. Still it's like, yeah, well I didn't get it, 949 00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,279 Speaker 1: and I gotta like we're not really we haven't zoomed out, 950 00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,040 Speaker 1: and like what this what what error we're really in 951 00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,360 Speaker 1: right now? We we we went through something and like 952 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,719 Speaker 1: I haven't really processed it. Don't want to face the 953 00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,560 Speaker 1: fact that we haven't really processed it. It's it's interesting 954 00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,360 Speaker 1: that the idea of like body horror and like mutle lation, 955 00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:05,200 Speaker 1: because you know, the Iraq War was also a massive 956 00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:11,200 Speaker 1: cataclysmic event that we lived through that never really had 957 00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:15,200 Speaker 1: its apocalypse. It never had its like on screen movie 958 00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:17,880 Speaker 1: that really like broke through and everybody watched. You know, 959 00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:22,000 Speaker 1: there there were some, but they weren't like blockbusters. They 960 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:25,440 Speaker 1: were not like things that were like culture defining or 961 00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:30,160 Speaker 1: like hero porn, but we did have the like torture 962 00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:34,160 Speaker 1: porn break like movies happened at that, like saw and 963 00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,880 Speaker 1: stuff like, so that that's like how we dealt with 964 00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:43,080 Speaker 1: it was by watching people get mutilated and slow motion. 965 00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,239 Speaker 1: So in that sense, like right, the body horror as 966 00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:50,800 Speaker 1: like metaphor for our own self inflicted. Yeah, yeah, I 967 00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,680 Speaker 1: wonder if that's all like kind of just different ways 968 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:57,840 Speaker 1: that our traumas coming through to the surface and like 969 00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,040 Speaker 1: bubbling up. See, I knew I wanted we had a 970 00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,239 Speaker 1: story on the dock for a little while and I 971 00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,320 Speaker 1: was like, no, no, nothing to say about this. I 972 00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,360 Speaker 1: wanna I want to see what man gues has to 973 00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:13,319 Speaker 1: say about this and brings springs through the heat. Hey 974 00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:18,319 Speaker 1: what about that pregnancy salad? Though I think that had 975 00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,080 Speaker 1: something to do with it too, I don't know, that's 976 00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:21,920 Speaker 1: my sense. What do you think about that? Jack? I 977 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:26,160 Speaker 1: said that just now. I love it all right, still 978 00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:32,919 Speaker 1: got it? This guy still got it? All right. Well, 979 00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,040 Speaker 1: let's see it hit us with your theories on what 980 00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:40,080 Speaker 1: what's happening with with if there is maybe maybe I'm 981 00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:43,239 Speaker 1: miss maybe I missed some pandemic themed thing like I know, 982 00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:45,239 Speaker 1: I know hurt the hurt Locker was in a Rock 983 00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,760 Speaker 1: War one, So like, has there been a hurt Locker 984 00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:52,640 Speaker 1: for the pandemic? Right? But is it? Like but but 985 00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:56,080 Speaker 1: nothing is quite having the apocalypse now, Like there's not 986 00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:57,600 Speaker 1: a film that you could say like, oh, this is 987 00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:00,799 Speaker 1: the Apocalypse now. I guess contain Jen was the one 988 00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:07,400 Speaker 1: that but it happened ten years Yeah, maybe it was Crash. 989 00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,239 Speaker 1: Paul Haggis is Crash. Just to come back to that, well, 990 00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,600 Speaker 1: I think I think that one really sums up everything 991 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:14,960 Speaker 1: about the human condition. And I've always said that like 992 00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:19,200 Speaker 1: that's the one that really brings it all together for me, 993 00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:24,040 Speaker 1: absolutely made me want to be a better man, made 994 00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:29,240 Speaker 1: me want to be ludicrous. Such a pleasure having you 995 00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,680 Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Follow you here? You all 996 00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,840 Speaker 1: that good stuff. Well, first of all, I miss you guys. 997 00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,560 Speaker 1: I I really like it's it's really such a pleasure 998 00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,000 Speaker 1: to be hang out with both of you. And so 999 00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:42,640 Speaker 1: please come to New York and hang out with me. Um, 1000 00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,720 Speaker 1: you can find me at Tuesday Night Art Club. That's yeah, 1001 00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:51,800 Speaker 1: we'll show up one of these Tuesday nights unannounced tak 1002 00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,720 Speaker 1: My show is Skyline Drive and so like if if 1003 00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:59,720 Speaker 1: people check that out, I'd be thrilled. And yeah, I'm 1004 00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:04,120 Speaker 1: on I'm on Twitter and Instagram as m Hatika there, 1005 00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,480 Speaker 1: which is not easy to spell, but it's I think 1006 00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,680 Speaker 1: the only one. Yeah, there you go. And is there 1007 00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,440 Speaker 1: a tweet or some of the work of media that 1008 00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:16,919 Speaker 1: you've been enjoying. Uh, it's not a tweet or work 1009 00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:21,080 Speaker 1: of media exactly. But I saw photos of that palace 1010 00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:25,400 Speaker 1: cat in the um. It's like this wildcat that's small 1011 00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,840 Speaker 1: and cute and super cuddly and and it's like called 1012 00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,600 Speaker 1: the original grumpy Cat. And they found it in Mount Everest, 1013 00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,480 Speaker 1: which they didn't think it existed in before, and so like, 1014 00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:39,200 Speaker 1: I've been obsessed with that recently. That's amazing. And is 1015 00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:44,280 Speaker 1: it still up there or that it's Yeah, no, they're 1016 00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,400 Speaker 1: They're like, there are I guess these cats all over 1017 00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:50,680 Speaker 1: like this region, but like very very few and far between, 1018 00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:54,760 Speaker 1: but they had never found them on Everest. Yeah, miles, 1019 00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:58,680 Speaker 1: where can people find you? And what's the work of 1020 00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:02,080 Speaker 1: media you've been enjoying? Yeah? Day to day find me 1021 00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:05,240 Speaker 1: on at Miles of Gray where there's a symbols. Maybe 1022 00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:09,080 Speaker 1: I'll be daddy, maybe I It'll be another day or two, 1023 00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:13,480 Speaker 1: but hey, I'll let y'all know when that happens or else. 1024 00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:19,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm my mind is from between the 1025 00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:27,360 Speaker 1: police violence, smash shootings, rampant inequality, you know, fucking pregnancy salads. 1026 00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:28,960 Speaker 1: I got, I got, I got a lot on my play. 1027 00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,760 Speaker 1: But anyway, find also Jack and I on our basketball 1028 00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,320 Speaker 1: Podcastles and Jack got mad boost these we're talking about 1029 00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,720 Speaker 1: the NBA, which is fun stuff, and then fiance. We're 1030 00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:42,960 Speaker 1: talking about fiance. Um a tweet. I like, let's see, oh, 1031 00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:46,280 Speaker 1: this is from you know, Blair baby at blair sake, 1032 00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:48,400 Speaker 1: just to eat it. I just like this, just as 1033 00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,000 Speaker 1: where she is in her life. Just said, tonight is 1034 00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,240 Speaker 1: my first night of adult soccer. It is gonna be 1035 00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:55,880 Speaker 1: humbling for me to not be good at first, as 1036 00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,520 Speaker 1: I am a lion in a titan in the sports arena. 1037 00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:03,240 Speaker 1: But God may no mistakes, but God makes no mistakes. 1038 01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, She's like, I don't know she I was 1039 01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:08,800 Speaker 1: deeming her. She's like, yo, I don't know how this 1040 01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:10,640 Speaker 1: is gonna go. I've been played since I was ten, 1041 01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:12,760 Speaker 1: and I was like, it's okay. Just because you were 1042 01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:17,560 Speaker 1: d one volleyball doesn't mean I feel like my prediction 1043 01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:22,240 Speaker 1: for that. Yeah, yeah, perfect hat tricks. Left foot finished, 1044 01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:26,800 Speaker 1: right foot finished, headed goal. There you go, Son tweets, 1045 01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:31,320 Speaker 1: I've been enjoying. Let's see here, this is just a 1046 01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:35,160 Speaker 1: good one. Uh, somebody are Jones? Both of Jones Jets 1047 01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:38,080 Speaker 1: tweeted if no one has said this yet, I'm fairly certain. 1048 01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,240 Speaker 1: This also makes whatever number of the day is the 1049 01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:43,560 Speaker 1: same weekday every month. So since we're talking about dates 1050 01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:48,520 Speaker 1: and horoscopes, it's just a screen cap with you know, 1051 01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:51,160 Speaker 1: like some footage or a photo. It's a it's a meme, 1052 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,520 Speaker 1: and it says me explaining that if we had thirteen 1053 01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:56,480 Speaker 1: months instead of twelve, every month would be exactly twenty 1054 01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:58,560 Speaker 1: eight days. The first would always be a Monday, and 1055 01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,520 Speaker 1: they would always be a Sunday. Every month would have 1056 01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:04,480 Speaker 1: exactly four weeks instead of four point two five seven, 1057 01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:07,280 Speaker 1: and we would properly align ourselves with the cycle of 1058 01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:10,640 Speaker 1: the moon. That was a revelation for me. I have 1059 01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:14,040 Speaker 1: to go back on what I said when I disagreed 1060 01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:18,120 Speaker 1: with Ben Boland's take that calendars are are bad. I'm 1061 01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:23,160 Speaker 1: gonna revise that to our calendar is bad. Yeah, and 1062 01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:27,840 Speaker 1: we should that's what we change immediately. Uh, send you've tweeted, 1063 01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:30,520 Speaker 1: everyone should have a friend who has no idea what 1064 01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:35,240 Speaker 1: your job is and doesn't care. I think that's good advice. 1065 01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:40,400 Speaker 1: I have lots of those friends. Yeah, they're calling them 1066 01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:44,600 Speaker 1: friend in return. Yeah. You can find me on Twitter 1067 01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:47,360 Speaker 1: at Jack Underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter 1068 01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,320 Speaker 1: at Daily Zeitgeist. Were at d Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. 1069 01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:52,800 Speaker 1: We have a Facebook fan page and a website, Daily 1070 01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,880 Speaker 1: Zeitgeist dot com. We post our episodes and our footnotes. 1071 01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:58,640 Speaker 1: We link off to the information that we talked about 1072 01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:00,720 Speaker 1: in today's episode, as well as song that we think 1073 01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:05,080 Speaker 1: you might enjoy. Miles, is there a song they'd like 1074 01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:09,800 Speaker 1: to leave the people with? If this is your lad Well, 1075 01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:11,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if it is, it 1076 01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:13,360 Speaker 1: could be. And this is the thing. If I'm not 1077 01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:16,919 Speaker 1: on the recording, it doesn't mean things have gone into labor. 1078 01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:19,520 Speaker 1: I'm just we're managing a lot of the household, of course, 1079 01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:21,480 Speaker 1: And it's weird that you're like, well, what is the 1080 01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:25,320 Speaker 1: last song this I didn't The song is called Forbidden Fruit. 1081 01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:28,800 Speaker 1: That has nothing to do with me. This is my 1082 01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,760 Speaker 1: last one. It just happened to be. And this is 1083 01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:35,000 Speaker 1: from the artists Mono Drone and it's like, uh, it 1084 01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:37,720 Speaker 1: feels like kind of like easy listening DJ Shadow if 1085 01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:41,720 Speaker 1: that makes sense. You know, like very sample based instrumental stuff. 1086 01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,400 Speaker 1: But like it's not like spooky. You don't feel like 1087 01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:47,640 Speaker 1: you're getting like followed like a like a rain. So 1088 01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,400 Speaker 1: check this out. This is Forbidden Fruit by Monol Drone. 1089 01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:53,120 Speaker 1: There you go, alright, well we link off to that 1090 01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:55,400 Speaker 1: in the footnotes. The daily like guys, the production by 1091 01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:57,720 Speaker 1: heart Radio for more podcast from my heart Radio? Is 1092 01:02:57,720 --> 01:02:59,720 Speaker 1: that the heart Radio app, Apple podcast or wherever you 1093 01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:01,880 Speaker 1: listen your favorite shows. That is going to do it 1094 01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,640 Speaker 1: for us this morning, back this afternoon to tell you 1095 01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:08,440 Speaker 1: what's trending, and we will talk to y'all. Done, Bye bye, 1096 01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:12,280 Speaker 1: m m m