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Speaker 1: Fire for Monday, March the tenth. Oh my gosh, the

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Speaker 1: NFL was popping this weekend. I know it's March and

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Speaker 1: that means hoops and college basketball, March badness, NBA like

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Speaker 1: I had a semi final game on Sunday, and of

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Speaker 1: Probably gonna have to miss the other two playoff games

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Speaker 1: Daughter's team has a bye. March is a basketball month,

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Speaker 1: but the NFL was absolutely bonker. So I'm coaching my

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Speaker 1: you know, it was at a golf tournament and he's

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Speaker 1: showing up late and he comes over and the first

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Speaker 1: The Rams got Davante Adams, and I was like what

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Speaker 1: I wasn't you know? I was locked in for warm ups.

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Speaker 1: I was like, do some scouting. I had no clue

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Speaker 1: league guy going Raiders Jets, and now this, folks, that

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Speaker 1: feels like a steal. I'm floored. I was actually shook,

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Speaker 1: So then obviously the first quarter ends and I'm looking around,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, Davante Adams is on the Rams. So they

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Speaker 1: first thought, I get right into take boat of my head.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Rams have to be the favorites in

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Speaker 1: that division. Now it's been the forty nine ers for

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Speaker 1: like the last four or five years as the favorites

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Speaker 1: going into the season, and now it's like, wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I don't want to say Cooper Couples washed.

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Speaker 1: They just reallocated Cooper Cup's money to Devonte Adams. Now,

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Speaker 1: some people also pointed out that they gave Alan Robinson.

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Speaker 1: You remember that guy. I mean, listen, he was a

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Speaker 1: major bust with the Rams. They gave him three years,

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Speaker 1: And I drafted him in Fantasy that year. I mean,

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Speaker 1: He turns thirty three in December, so come playoffs, the

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Speaker 1: Rams will be in there. You know, we'll see if

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Speaker 1: in the early thirties. Not everybody, but a lot of

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Speaker 1: tread on the Davonte Adams tires. But folks, I'm looking

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Speaker 1: Davonte showed up with the Jets and looked really good.

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Speaker 1: If you want to pick your poison with the Rams,

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Speaker 1: This Rams offense could be really, really good. Now, obviously

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Speaker 1: was going through some of the moves and Rob G's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: when it comes to gambling, offensive line trenches matters greatly

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Speaker 1: comes to the Super Bowl, playoffs winning. Yeah, offensive line's huge.

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Speaker 3: even though I'm a big Cooper Cup fan, is a

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Speaker 3: we're gonna tell you what. Howard Nikua and Davonte gonna

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Speaker 2: And the big thing is.

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Speaker 3: Davante Adams at this point in his career is a

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Speaker 3: A lot of great slabsies in the NFL. I'm on

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Speaker 3: Rossaint Brown is a slot receiver. He does not play

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Speaker 3: Davante Adams when he played in the slot last season,

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Speaker 3: I don't think a great Stafford year. He's a clear

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Speaker 3: Again I'm one of those guys who's not a huge

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Speaker 3: Have to really break it down, but I just don't

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Speaker 3: you expect Devontae Adams to have a Pro Bowl type

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Speaker 3: down to whether or not that young defense who everybody

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Speaker 3: If they can get their offense to be more proactive

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Speaker 3: and they can wreak havoc in that way, then absolutely

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Speaker 3: the Rams can be, you know, a contender in the NFC.

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Speaker 2: Are you just gonna get to that point? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Are you surprised that, like the Chargers didn't get win

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Speaker 1: this and be like, yo, we'll give more than two

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Speaker 1: for forty six for DeVante? I would go to fifty.

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Speaker 1: I mean the Chargers have nothing at receiver. Look at

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Speaker 1: the Chargers' receivers, like Lad McConkey really really good, gets

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Speaker 1: You know, we're seeing Tank Dell in Houston keeps getting hurt.

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Speaker 1: Like these small receivers. You need big guys. Look at Puka,

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Speaker 1: you guys see him. He's at every Laker game. Rom

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Speaker 1: Do you see how big he is?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he stands next to these NBA players. Are like, Damn,

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Speaker 1: Pooka looks fricking like a linebacker. And now you get Davante,

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Speaker 1: and like, I'm just surprised nobody else came after Davante.

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Speaker 1: Less of a surprise would be the DK Metcalf move.

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Speaker 1: He's traded to the Pittsburgh Steelers for a second round pick,

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Speaker 1: remember Pittsburgh, Sorry Seattle. On Friday, when the story broke,

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Speaker 1: we were on the herd. I was like, what are

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Speaker 1: you gonna get like a third for dk Metcalf. Coward's like, no,

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Speaker 1: no way, Nobody's giving first. So DK goes to the

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Speaker 1: Steelers for the fifty second overall pick and overall. Listen,

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Speaker 1: I like DK metcalf. He is a bit I don't know,

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: DK doesn't get the ball, he gets upset. DK starts

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Speaker 2: Rob? Yes, yes they are. Jason.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad see that's why you are an elite ball nowhere,

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Speaker 3: And it's like, you realize they got the exact same

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Speaker 3: Okay, you would think if you're gonna get a guy

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Speaker 2: Throw them the ball to begin with. I don't understand

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Speaker 1: I don't think you go out and get DK Metcalf

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Speaker 3: He had that issue in Tennessee, he had that issue

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Speaker 1: That's an option that that's another one. But then it's like, damn,

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Speaker 3: You could have got te Higgins done at about twenty

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Speaker 2: Miles Garrett gonna be gone.

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Speaker 3: You know, resetting the market at forty is gonna throw

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Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens with them.

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Speaker 3: But you know, that's another conversation as far as Seattle goes,

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Speaker 2: What if.

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Speaker 3: What if this is a trust the process NBA style

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Speaker 2: Does that make sense to you?

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Speaker 1: I don't maybe you know it's a seniority thing. And

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Speaker 1: quentin Ewers was pretty good, but we had Daniel Jeremiah on.

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Speaker 1: He thinks quentin Ewers could go earlier than many people.

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Speaker 1: So maybe it's just that art is not quite there yet.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, that that's gonna be an interesting one One

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Speaker 1: to watch is Seattle kind of quiet tanking or soft

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Speaker 1: tanking whatever they call it, because they have unloaded a lot. Now,

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Speaker 1: which as we mentioned, Gino's left Seattle. He's going to

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Speaker 1: your raiders. They whiff on Stafford, and you now have

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Speaker 1: Geno Smith running the show, Robald, and let me call

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Speaker 1: up the Raiders depth chart. Kind of a busy, busy

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Speaker 1: offseason here for your Raiders currently, this is what their

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Speaker 1: offense looks like. You've got who's this guy, Trede Tucker outside,

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Speaker 1: Jacobe Myers in the slot, some guy Wilkerson that I'm

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Speaker 1: not familiar with at the other receiver. The running back

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Speaker 1: situation is led by Zamir White, aka, they don't have

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Speaker 1: a running back. And then Brock Powers is the tight

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Speaker 1: end with your offensive line pretty good? What was his

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Speaker 1: seven wins? Eight?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 3: I mean, that would be a decent season for us,

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Speaker 3: you know, considering where we've been at.

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Speaker 2: You know, my Raider is not exactly.

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Speaker 3: A perennial playoff team, if you can put it mildly.

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Speaker 3: But this situation with Gino Smith is.

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Speaker 2: Solid. It's not spectacular.

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Speaker 3: It's not that it's nothing to get you super excited,

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Speaker 3: but it speaks to the plan in Las Vegas when

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Speaker 3: they brought in Pete Carroll. The plan was not a

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Speaker 3: teardown rebuild. The plan was not, Hey, let's build for

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Speaker 3: the future. We're gonna draft, you know, we'll say what

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Speaker 3: should your Sanders. We're gonna move up to for cam Ward,

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Speaker 3: do whatever we gotta do. And this is gonna be

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Speaker 3: a four, five, six year plan. No, when they got

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Speaker 3: Pete Carroll at age seventy three, the plan was, we're

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Speaker 3: just gonna be respectable. We are not gonna be a

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Speaker 3: laughing stock anymore. Our goal is not necessarily to win

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Speaker 3: the super Bowl, but our goal is to no longer

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Speaker 3: be considered a laughing stock. If we can win eight, nine,

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Speaker 3: maybe ten games, if things break our way, injuries go

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Speaker 3: our away, whatever it is, that's gonna be considered a

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Speaker 3: successful run with Pete Carroll, and it's gonna set the

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Speaker 3: stage for the next guy to come in and keep

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Speaker 3: us going, you know, pass the baton forward.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't lead me to believe that Pete Carroll's probably

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Speaker 1: gonna be like a multi year guy. They can't keep

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Speaker 1: just keep cycling through coaches every year, right.

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Speaker 2: No, No, of course not.

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Speaker 3: And I would say with Geno Smith, to get somewhere

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Speaker 3: between the twelfth to fifteenth best quarterback for a third

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Speaker 3: round pick, you do have a lot worse than that.

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Speaker 3: He's basically he's basically generous rob fifteen.

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Speaker 2: You know how many bad quarterbacks are in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: We got, we got a minute, let's do it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So Josh, let's start the AFC. Let's try the NFC.

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Speaker 1: Let's try the NFC. Jalen Hurts is one. Jen Daniels

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Speaker 1: is another. Dak Prescott, I mean, listen, I don't think

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Speaker 1: he's great, but he's better than Geno Smith, right, sure, Ye,

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Speaker 1: there's three, Jared Goff four, Jordan Love I mean, Rob silent, Tyler.

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Speaker 3: Wise, absolutely, but he's only played like nine good games

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Speaker 3: his whole career.

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Speaker 1: I can't go Kayleb Williams yet. Baker Mayfield, I do

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Speaker 1: think is there. I think they're in the same, but

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Speaker 1: I would give the Mayfield. I would give six. No Falcon,

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Speaker 1: no Panther, definitely not. Derek Carr. Stafford is seven, seven

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Speaker 1: or eight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll take Safford in there. That's okay.

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Speaker 1: So that's eight. I don't Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 2: I mean I don't.

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Speaker 3: I mean Kyler has more talent, but I don't think

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Speaker 3: Kyler Murray has played better than.

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Speaker 1: We won't count. We won't count. We have to count

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Speaker 1: rock Perty.

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Speaker 2: I would count rock Perty. I like Rockberty.

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Speaker 1: So that's nine. Now the AFC is a little top heavy.

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen ten tua, I'm you know, I don't I

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Speaker 1: don't need to take to Okay, no jet, I can't

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Speaker 1: go to Drake Bay yet, but Drake Bay will be

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Speaker 1: better than him, sure. Lamar eleven yep. No Steeler, Borrow twelve,

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Speaker 1: No Brown, c J. Stroud thirteen yep.

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Speaker 2: I'll give c J. Strown, No Colts Nope.

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Speaker 1: Now Trevor Lawrence is going to you.

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Speaker 2: Do not put Trevor Lawrence ahead. I mean we're gonna

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Speaker 2: fight on this podcast. Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: All right, he hasn't been great, so I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: take Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 2: I do.

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Speaker 1: I think everybody would say he's got more talent nobody

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Speaker 1: on the Titans, Mahomes and Herbert. I think that's six fifteen,

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Speaker 1: that's fifteen bow Knicks.

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Speaker 2: I think they're like the same. I think I think

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 1: So he's I mean, listen, Trevor Lawrence, Kyler, Murriie bo Knicks.

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Speaker 1: That puts him in like the fifteen to eighteen for

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Speaker 1: Gino Smith.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I said twelve to fifteenth a fift So

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Speaker 3: we'll say he's the fifteenth.

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Speaker 2: Best quarterback in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: He's just mid I think.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, But I think he's somewhere. And I don't

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Speaker 3: really like ranking them because it's so fluid, you know,

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Speaker 3: but I would say he's in a tier. I think

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Speaker 3: his tier is somewhere with like Baker Mayfield, you know,

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Speaker 3: I think bo Nick is on the bottom of that

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Speaker 3: tier somewhere. If you want to say, Kyler Murray's on

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Speaker 3: that tier. If you want to see Jordan, because Jordan

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Speaker 3: love talent wise, absolutely, but he hasn't shown to be

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Speaker 3: a great quarterback yet. So if you can get a

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Speaker 3: middle of the road quarterback for the third round pick,

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Speaker 3: you could do.

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Speaker 2: Have a lot worse than that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you're right. So those were like the high

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Speaker 1: end NFL moves. Now we're recording this, you know, West coast,

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Speaker 1: late Sunday night, early morning, East coast, and before we

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Speaker 1: pivot to a little NBA talk, Rob, I'm just gonna

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Speaker 1: put this out there into the ether. But the great

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah from Pro Football, I'm sorry, he's been like

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Speaker 1: an announcer for the Chargers. He's over at NFL Network.

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Speaker 1: He put out a tweet Sunday night that said the

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Speaker 1: Panthers will be fun to monitor tomorrow. Now I don't

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Speaker 1: know what that means. I don't think anybody does. I

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Speaker 1: think it's purposely vague. That being said, one of the

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Speaker 1: most popular reactions is that they're going to be trading

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Speaker 1: or try to Now this is not from Jeremiah. This

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Speaker 1: is just reaction from the Peanut Gallery that they're going

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Speaker 1: to try to make a move for Michael Parsons. And

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Speaker 1: I suppose. Now here's the problem. They don't have a

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Speaker 1: ton of draft picks.

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Speaker 2: Remember they traded a.

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Speaker 1: Lot of Amway. They don't even have a I don't

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Speaker 1: think they have a second round pick this year.

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Speaker 2: I saw that.

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Speaker 1: I think that's going to Chicago or maybe that's from

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Speaker 1: another deal. But like, I don't know any guesses what

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Speaker 1: the Panthers could be fun to monitor. Do you think

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Speaker 1: they'd say trade for Pickens or they already like, you

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Speaker 1: know what, we tried one of these problem receivers. It

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Speaker 1: didn't work out. I don't know any gut feeling who's

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Speaker 1: out there that they could go after.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's a lot of guys that could go after.

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Speaker 3: But if you are the Carolina Panthers, given what we

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Speaker 3: saw from Bryce Young to end the season last year,

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Speaker 3: where he looked like not just a competent quarterback, but

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Speaker 3: a guy with a lot of upside, that the one

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Speaker 3: that we hoped we would see when he was drafting

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Speaker 3: number one overall. I would not mind them making a

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Speaker 3: move for T Higgins oh and saying Cincinnati, the market

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Speaker 3: is the market. You know you cannot or you can't

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Speaker 3: afford him, but you're gonna choose to say you can't

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Speaker 3: afford him so rather than give up. I believe, like

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Speaker 3: the franchise tag, it's two ones plus you know the contract.

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Speaker 2: I don't think something like that.

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Speaker 3: When the Raiders first acquired devoncea adas years ago, it

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Speaker 3: was the same kind of situation, and I believe the

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Speaker 3: Packers rescinded the franchise tag and said, hey, we will

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Speaker 3: trade him to you for I think it was a

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Speaker 3: second and then you take the contract and you pay

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Speaker 3: whatever you're gonna pay him. I could see them doing

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Speaker 3: something like that.

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Speaker 1: Carolina Pants. They've been kind of a dormant franchise for

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Speaker 1: a minute. I mean T Higgins, that would be spicy boy.

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Speaker 1: How pissed with Burrow? Be geez?

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Speaker 2: I think he's already pissed. He has to be pissed

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Speaker 2: on me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's definitely gotta be upset.

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Speaker 1: We will quickly wrap up with an NBA obviously. The

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Speaker 1: big news Laker Celtics Saturday was pretty good. All of Boston,

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Speaker 1: you know, as expected, ran away in the third quarter.

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Speaker 1: Lakers covered first quarter again, folks, Fifteen of seventeen games

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Speaker 1: are covering the first quarter. Now. Lebron old is groin

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Speaker 1: sounds like he's going to be out a week, maybe two.

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Speaker 1: I honestly don't think it's the worst thing in the world.

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Speaker 1: You look at his schedule. They have a ton of

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Speaker 1: back to backs here in the next two weeks. Rest Lebron,

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Speaker 1: don't overtax Luca, take a couple L's. If you slide

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Speaker 1: in the West from two to three or four, it's

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Speaker 1: not the end of the world. You know, again, I'll

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Speaker 1: repeat it. I don't think the Lakers are afraid of Denver.

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Speaker 1: I don't think the Lakers are afraid of OKC. And overall,

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Speaker 1: the Lakers showed really well of late. No Ruie Reeves

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Speaker 1: still getting back to work. Lucas starting to come on.

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Speaker 1: I'm just telling you guys, the Lakers are But we

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Speaker 1: talked about him a lot rob real quick, and I

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Speaker 1: know we don't give them a lot of love on

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Speaker 1: this podcast, but man, this NBA debate about Yo Kich

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Speaker 1: or SGA for MVP is getting kind of spicy. And

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I don't want to steal Rob G's takes.

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Speaker 1: Like the producer's job is to come up with amazing

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Speaker 1: topics and funny stuff and hand it to the guy

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Speaker 1: who's willing to put his stick, his neck on the

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Speaker 1: line and say crazy stuff because who cares. I don't

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Speaker 1: care if I'm wrong. Okay, and Rob G had a

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Speaker 1: really fricking good one about SGA versus Yoki, so my goat.

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Speaker 1: Tell me again, I'm not a voter, Thank goodness. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to get involved in that crap. But if

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Speaker 1: you came to me instead, who's the MVP of the league,

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Speaker 1: I would say it's Jokic. I mean, you could yell

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Speaker 1: at me with numbers or do your blue in the face.

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Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't think Yokich is.

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Speaker 2: The best player.

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Speaker 1: I don't think SGA's the best player in the league

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Speaker 1: is the awesome?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: Is he having a career season?

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Speaker 2: Hell? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Are the Thunder the best team in the league? Well,

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Speaker 1: I think they're second now to Cleveland technically, but you

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Speaker 1: look at Jokic. He had a thirty twenty twenty game

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Speaker 1: over the weekend. Now, let me just repeat that. Thirty points,

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Speaker 1: twenty rebounds, twenty assists, twenty assists. How many twenty as

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Speaker 1: sis games in magic haf You know how many twenty

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Speaker 1: games assists for Isaiah Thomas Steph Curry? Twenty assists for you?

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Speaker 2: Kitch?

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Speaker 1: That's ridiculous. And you know, I know Pat Patrick Mahomes

648
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Speaker 1: with his dad Bod kind of made those cool. He

649
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: still escapes defensive ends and is in good shape. Yokich

650
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: is the king of the dad bots. He does not

651
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: look like much at all, is dooey, serbian, and all

652
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,959
Speaker 1: he does is just make incredible passes, his vision, his

653
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: IQ thick. Guy's amazing and I'm sorry for me.

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Speaker 2: He's the MVV.

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Speaker 1: However, I'm kind of with Rob. I don't think he's

656
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Speaker 1: gonna get it because the media that votes for it,

657
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: the dumb media. Sorry, guys, they're like, well Sgay's never

658
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: got one. We should give it to him. That's what

659
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: they did with Embiid. You guys remember that, and Pat

660
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: wasn't better than you? Could you be? That an awesome year,

661
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: but it's really goofy. So Rob, I'm gonna now grant

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Speaker 1: you a vote for the MVP.

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00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 4: Who you got?

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Speaker 2: Nikola Jokic.

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Speaker 1: Oh easily agreement.

666
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Speaker 3: And at some point, we guys are gotta be honest

667
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 3: with ourselves. The NBA MVP, if we're gonna be straightforward,

668
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 3: should be Nikola Jokic. And and for my money, he

669
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Speaker 3: should be the perennial favorite from here on Allen, because

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Speaker 3: if we're gonna really talk about who the most valuable

671
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 3: player is, there is nobody statistically that is more valuable

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Speaker 3: to his team than Nikola Jokic. This is the NBA's

673
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 3: version of Josh Allen versus Lamar Jackson. Anybody with two

674
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 3: eyes and with the ability to read could tell you

675
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson's numbers are better across the board than Josh Allen.

676
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Speaker 3: Nikola Jokic's numbers are are better basically across the board

677
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Speaker 3: than Shay Gilgas. Alexander Sga is having a phenomenal season.

678
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 3: Jokic's numbers are better. Yeah, it's better. The problem is,

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Speaker 3: as you alluded to, these voters, these get up on

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Speaker 3: their soapbox holier than now. I was listening to a

681
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 3: Brian Windhorse podcast friend of the show We Love Brian,

682
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 3: We Love Wendy and multiple guys who are on his show.

683
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Speaker 3: I believe at least one of them is an NBA

684
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Speaker 3: MVP voter said, you have to consider the fact that

685
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Speaker 3: he's already won two of the last three and the precedents,

686
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Speaker 3: it would say if he want three out of four,

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Speaker 3: which is why I cannot in good conscience vote for

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00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 3: Nikola Jokic for MVP this season. He'd have to do

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Speaker 3: something incredible for me to vote. Last I checked, SGA,

690
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 3: excuse me, Nikola Jokic is gonna have what is it,

691
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 3: the second greatest per season in NBA history. Last I checked,

692
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Speaker 3: Nicol Jokic is putting up higher points per game and

693
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 3: higher as this per game than any of his MVP seasons.

694
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Speaker 3: Sounds to me like he's doing more than he did before.

695
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 3: But because of the narrative, Oh the OKC Thunder, the

696
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 3: Little Engine that could, SGA is the only good player

697
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 3: that they have. He's the only All Star that they have.

698
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 3: Of course, you know A J.

699
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 2: Dubb. I know he made the All Star team, but

700
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 2: he's not really that good. SGA is the.

701
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 3: One carrying him. Have you seen Denver's bench? Nikola Jokis

702
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 3: should be the MVP. Unfortunately, because of who we have

703
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 3: voting for it, the narrative is going to go to SGA.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna end up winning it.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's weird, Rob. I just looked up player

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00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: efficiency rating. ESPN's peer was created by this guy named

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00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: John Hollinger. It's an interesting stat. But I'm gonna read

708
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Speaker 1: off the top ten. Tell me what the common theme

709
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: in here is. I'm not going to even give a

710
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: hint as to what the team could be. One is Jokic,

711
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: Two is SGA, Three is Yannis for his a D.

712
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 1: Five is Zion, Six is Mark Williams from Charlotte, Seven

713
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: is Daniel Gafford. Eight is Wemby nine as cat ten

714
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Speaker 1: is in beat. What's a common theme there?

715
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 2: A lot of big men?

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00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, all big men except for SGA. That's insane. So

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00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: every stat is kind of sort of skewed, is it not, Rob?

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Speaker 2: I mean that's fair.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, I don't know how SGA is on there.

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Speaker 1: I did see a wild stat that SGA leaves the

721
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: league in points, and if you went by just what

722
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: he's accomplished through three quarters of games, he's second in

723
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: the league in points, which I don't know. That like

724
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: kind of breaks my brain a little bit, like he's

725
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: set out so many fourth quarters because of blowouts that

726
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: he's just putting up monster numbers early. So I'm kind

727
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: of with you. Like again, I know, I've called SGA

728
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: a free throw merchant, and I don't think that they're

729
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: gonna beat the Lakers if they meet in the playoffs.

730
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: But just thirty twenty twenty now it got buried. I

731
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: think it was on Saturday night, right or was that Friday?

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Speaker 3: I think that might have been Saturday night because the

733
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 3: Lakers game was on Friday.

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Speaker 2: Ooh, that might was that Saturday night? Yes, I think

735
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 2: it was Saturday night. No, No, that was Friday night.

736
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 2: It was Firday. This is one of the problems.

737
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: So the NBA needs to put games on Friday and

738
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 1: Saturday obviously, because that's when people can go to games,

739
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 1: make it a big night out. Saturday is the marquee night,

740
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,280
Speaker 1: and it's like, you know, it kind of gets buried

741
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: you come around Monday and it's like, oh, well, what

742
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 1: happened Friday night in the league? Oh well, Yoki's put

743
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: up a insane thirty one twenty two assists, twenty one boards.

744
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: By the way, he scored thirty one points on twenty

745
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,760
Speaker 1: two shots. That's it. Now, here's what's scary. Rob alluded

746
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: to this just filed us away for the postseason. Nuggets

747
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,240
Speaker 1: scored one hundred and forty nine points. The game went overtime.

748
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: They only played eight guys. That's it, eight guys. He's

749
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: still now this was the big knock him alone. He

750
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 1: doesn't play young guys a lot. I think he's being

751
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: forced at gunpoint to keep Christian Brown in the starting

752
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: lineup because he had to be move Westbrook back to

753
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:07,919
Speaker 1: the bench. But like, there's no way that they're gonna

754
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,240
Speaker 1: be going to the NBA Finals only playing a total

755
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: of eight guys. Here now, Dario Sarich, Jalen Pickett, Hunter Tyson,

756
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: these guys don't play. The Nuggets have to start resting guys. Man.

757
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, Robert, I know you like to play.

758
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: You gotta play all the games. You need your guys

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00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. And I'm a little surprised that the

760
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: Nuggets are not starting to power down just a little bit. Listen,

761
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: they're gonna be what are they gonna be? Two to

762
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: three at worse four? Like, does it really matter who

763
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 1: they played?

764
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 4: Who?

765
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: Who's beating them this year in Minnesota? I don't know,

766
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: but Lakers are tied with Denver for second. They're currently

767
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: win the tiebreaker, but I don't know if that's gonna

768
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 1: last long since the Lakers won't have Lebron in the rematch.

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00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, and listeners need to understand that we are making

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00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 3: this Jokic case on the heels of them getting blasted

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00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 3: on Sunday by twenty four points in OKAC. I think

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Speaker 3: they're playing again tonight. I think it's one of those

773
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 3: weird back to back games OKC. No, I think it's

774
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 3: both of them are in OKC. I think if I'm

775
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 3: almost positive, But in Sunday's game, Jokic had played forty

776
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 3: one minutes. Because your point, they have no bench, they

777
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 3: have no one they can rely on because Aaron Gordon

778
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 3: left after like sixty six seven minutes because of the

779
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 3: cap injury. In the seven minutes that Jokic was not

780
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 3: on the floor, the Denver was minus fourteen. Okay, SGA

781
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 3: as great and he was great on so he had

782
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 3: forty ball again in the thirteen minutes he didn't play.

783
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 3: OKC was plus thirteen.

784
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Speaker 1: So here's the thing, Rob, again, you know you kind

785
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: of nailed it on SGA. I feel like he was

786
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: going super hard for the MVP in this game, and

787
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 1: remember MB did that and it ended up hurting him.

788
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: SGA took thirty two shots, forty points on thirty two

789
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: shots even thirty five minutes.

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Speaker 2: Bro, I mean that's Kobe. That's two thousand and six

791
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 2: Kobe numbers. I love that.

792
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: I again, I'm not in the least afraid of OKAC.

793
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 1: And I think, to the point about the benches, I

794
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 1: think Lakers are developing their bench here with Ruiyol. Reeves

795
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: had been out, now Lebron's gonna be out. I think

796
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: this is kind of a really good scenario for the Lakers.

797
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,240
Speaker 1: And I know I sound like a Homer, that's fine,

798
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 1: but I also say it to Thibodeau man like he's

799
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: grinding dudes to the ground, Like come on, man. Anyways,

800
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Speaker 1: lengthy Monday podcast, It's Championship week, ladies and gentlemen. I'll

801
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: be putting picks on ig No Picks Sunday. However, Saturday

802
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: four to oh and hit Lakers first quarter for five

803
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: and Zho try to get hot for March Madness.

804
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Speaker 2: We're back tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: See you