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Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge, you know, Garrett, we've been talking

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Speaker 1: Today we have a chance to catch up with recent

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Speaker 1: before we get to that, let's go into the lounge

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Speaker 1: email pile here, I've got one. As always, you can

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Speaker 1: reach us at the Lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net.

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Speaker 1: This one comes from Ryan Banbury and it says, Hey,

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Speaker 1: Ryan Garrett. With the Ravens offseason, full swing, the Senior Bowl,

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Speaker 1: to talk about your mock drafts. Here we go. We

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Speaker 1: all know you guys love your drafts. We have Thanksgiving draft,

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Speaker 1: which I crushed you in. Why don't you guys let

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Speaker 1: running you pick the draft contests, Well, we need it's Ryan,

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Speaker 1: Right's yeah, we need to let Ryan know. We do

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Speaker 1: a Predicted Pit contest every year, That's right, So we

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Speaker 1: want fans. So it's not out yet, but as the

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Speaker 1: going to select at number sixteen. So that's first round,

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Speaker 1: We wouldn't be able to give you a better prize ourselves. No,

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Speaker 1: we could give you some cols. Ryan's got an old

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Speaker 1: you couldn't make fun of Cleveland as much after Lebron

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Speaker 1: came back and want a title. They're right, So it's

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Speaker 1: kind of like, man, football loses a pretty fun storyline

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Speaker 1: if Phillies get you know, Eagles fans win one for

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Speaker 1: the first time. And for the record, I was on

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Speaker 1: the other side of this argument because I grew up

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Speaker 1: a Cleveland sports fan, so I've been I've been tortured

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Speaker 1: my entire life, so I like to root from the underdog.

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Speaker 1: Do you but see do you Tory? Do you get

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Speaker 1: where I'm coming from here? You know, yeah, exactly, exactly,

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Speaker 1: thank you. I will say this all right, I'll redieve myself.

437
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Speaker 1: And after you guys wanted and I saw like grown

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Speaker 1: men crying and like nine year old people who have

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Speaker 1: been waiting their whole lives. Then the jerk inside of

440
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Speaker 1: me faded, like the real the real punk, and I

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Speaker 1: was like, oh, this is touching, this is sweet. I'm

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Speaker 1: glad to unreal like that. This city is going crazy.

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Speaker 1: Right everywhere you go, people are just losing their minds.

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Speaker 1: Like I had someone coming to me yesterday and they're

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Speaker 1: like man, like I went to my old man's grave

446
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Speaker 1: and like he would have loved to have been here

447
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Speaker 1: for this moment, you know, and like just it's just

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Speaker 1: really deep to folks here. And like I said, they've

449
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Speaker 1: been they've been waiting for that title. Like, yes, they

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Speaker 1: Philly's won some years ago and the Sixes way back

451
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Speaker 1: before that. But this is a football town and they've

452
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Speaker 1: been waiting for it. So this parade is going to

453
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Speaker 1: be ridiculous. Yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure it is. I

454
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Speaker 1: mean I remember the Ravens parade and that's one of

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Speaker 1: the things that kind of you see how many people

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Speaker 1: it touches when you're on that float um, And I'm

457
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Speaker 1: sure you're you're going to feel that tomorrow. So now

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Speaker 1: that you know how how hard this to repeat, obviously,

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Speaker 1: you know you you were with the Ravens for a

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Speaker 1: couple more years after you won the Super Bowl. It's

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Speaker 1: that's something that you're going to talk to your teammates about. Absolutely.

462
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Speaker 1: I mean everyone's gunning for you because you you remember

463
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Speaker 1: talking to want to Tap about it. He's like, hey,

464
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Speaker 1: you win, It's different. It's different, man. No, It's not

465
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Speaker 1: like when you're one of the best teams. Everyone's gunning

466
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Speaker 1: for you anyway, and I still kind of feel that way,

467
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Speaker 1: like everyone's still gonning for you, but like their motivation

468
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Speaker 1: is really like they're really trying to measure up like

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Speaker 1: everything you do. Like it's really and it's like that

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Speaker 1: again in general every game, but like it's just a

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Speaker 1: little bit different. When they're measuring up everything. They feel like, man,

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Speaker 1: that they can beat you, they can beat anyone, or

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Speaker 1: like if you did or any Most of the time

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Speaker 1: when they're looking at it, like man, our team is

475
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Speaker 1: better than them, So if they can do it, we

476
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Speaker 1: can do it, you know what I mean. And so

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Speaker 1: it's a different type of motivation, especially you're at home.

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Speaker 1: People use that to your advantage to play very well

479
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Speaker 1: at home here and play very well at home, and

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Speaker 1: um I was a Baltimore one, and so people trying

481
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Speaker 1: to use that their advantage that can beat them in

482
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Speaker 1: their house. That's how that's their way in that. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I mean everyone does it with the Patriots. They've been

484
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Speaker 1: doing this forever. So I mean that's just how it goes.

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Speaker 1: Do you think it's also hard? And this is just

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Speaker 1: a theory of mine that like in the following year, right,

487
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Speaker 1: like if stuff starts to kind of go wrong, that

488
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Speaker 1: it's just by human nature difficult to kind of fend

489
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Speaker 1: off the well, yeah things are going wrong, but we

490
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Speaker 1: just want it all last year, you know. I mean

491
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Speaker 1: do you think is that like is that just human tendency?

492
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Speaker 1: How difficult is that to to ward off as a

493
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Speaker 1: player right after you win one? Well, I think it's

494
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Speaker 1: sometimes some of the teams, like when you look at

495
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Speaker 1: like women bought somewhere like after we one, we had

496
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Speaker 1: a lot of change, you know, so that kind of

497
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Speaker 1: shakes things up. And then like a lot of teams

498
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Speaker 1: because that's because like if you're winning and you have

499
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Speaker 1: a good young talent, other teams are gonna win. Or

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Speaker 1: guys are free agents. Some of you talk guys I

501
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Speaker 1: free agents, Like other teams don't want that talent. So

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Speaker 1: I think the way you can help that is like

503
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Speaker 1: if you win that year and you already have you

504
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 1: guys locked up and so like, and that's kind of

505
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 1: feel like how it is for this team. This seem

506
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 1: like there there are many guys that are gonna be

507
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Speaker 1: like completely lost if anything, if anything, if anything, you're

508
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Speaker 1: getting guys back, you know, you're gonna have a choice

509
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Speaker 1: to change things up by releasing guys restruction whenever it

510
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Speaker 1: may be. So, Um, I think that's probably the biggest

511
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Speaker 1: difference because think about the Pagets and they one, but

512
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Speaker 1: then somehow they end up right back in the same

513
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 1: situation this year, or right back into the playoffs because um,

514
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Speaker 1: their division is easy. And uh, I agree. So and

515
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 1: since since so you you're going in three straight years

516
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Speaker 1: without the playoffs for the Ravens. What do you make

517
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Speaker 1: of that? Is it as simple as not tory to playoffs?

518
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Speaker 1: Is that how things work around here? Absolutely? Nah, I mean,

519
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 1: this is how it goes. You know. Sometimes you have

520
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,959
Speaker 1: those flu games, and um, it's always harder I think

521
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Speaker 1: when you struggle earlier in the year, Um, because like

522
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,959
Speaker 1: you said, you kind of not that you have makeup.

523
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Speaker 1: But like when you struggle earlier, when you get to

524
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Speaker 1: the end, it's like, man, you have to do this

525
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 1: to get it, you know, Versus when we were successful,

526
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 1: we played so well in the beginning, you have room

527
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Speaker 1: for air late, you know what I mean. And so

528
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: but with the Ravens, like people are like even though

529
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Speaker 1: like people are complaining and you know, I know because

530
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Speaker 1: I'm there all the time. Still, you know, fans make

531
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Speaker 1: complain or whatever, But this team is still only a

532
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 1: couple like literally a few plays away from the playoffs,

533
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 1: and the team is still like building and reloading, you

534
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So it's still right there. They'll

535
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Speaker 1: get it right, man's they have the right guys. They're

536
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Speaker 1: leading away, and um, you know they'll get it right.

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Speaker 1: Would it would have been it? Would it have been

538
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Speaker 1: a good game Eagles first Ravens in the Super Bowl

539
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,479
Speaker 1: this year? Of course, of course it would have been

540
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 1: a good game. But uh, you might make y'all mado's

541
00:25:55,359 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: gonna win that. You were talking about Joe, and I'll

542
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 1: give you a chance to give me the Joe elite. Uh,

543
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 1: you know, conversation, your argument for Joe elite. But I

544
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 1: also want to hear now that in your experience with

545
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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz, you know, two small school guys, how would

546
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:18,679
Speaker 1: you compare contrast Joe and Carson. I think they're both. Um,

547
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:24,160
Speaker 1: they're both huge, first of all, big big frames. Both

548
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 1: are athletic. I'm Joe's athletic, but people don't like to

549
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 1: give them that credit. Um, Carson is obviously like a

550
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: little wizard, so people see those crazy plays he makes.

551
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 1: But Um, Sean Sean Arms. Um. I think they're very

552
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: great leaders. Carson is probably more vocal, but um, Joe

553
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: is still a great leader. Um. They can make every throw.

554
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: I mean, they just make it seem better, you know

555
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: what I mean. And Um, I think they both have

556
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 1: great control of the offense. Joe is very comfortable. I

557
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 1: think Carson is very comfortable. Um. So I'm lucky to

558
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 1: you know, play with those two because Carson really good

559
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Speaker 1: down right. Wait, Tori, we really appreciate the time. You're

560
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: always somebody that's um here in Baltimore. I know that

561
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,479
Speaker 1: a lot of Ravens fans were rooting for the Eagles,

562
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: uh for you, you know this weekend myself. Yeah, some

563
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 1: of the people that aren't the haters. I just that

564
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 1: was the side argument, right. But you've always been someone

565
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: who's been, you know, kind of connected with the Ravens

566
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Speaker 1: fans here. So when's the next time we're gonna see

567
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 1: you in Baltimore? Are you doing your basketball game again

568
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: this year? Game on March seventeen? Alright, but on the calendars,

569
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 1: put on the books. Cool, come up man, Maybe maybe

570
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: even jump in the game. See if that jumper works.

571
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: So you don't it's a broken jumper. I'll tell you

572
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: that right now. And now I got I got a kid.

573
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 1: I'm in. I'm in dead territory like you, Toria. So

574
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 1: you know what kind of shape bomb you still get

575
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: to train professionally when it's not your job to train.

576
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 1: It goes down the toilet fast. All right, Well, thank you, Tori.

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00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,239
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Really good stuff from Toria is always Uh.

578
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: I'm a little said that you called me a hater.

579
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: I don't hate the Eagles. I love the Eagles. I

580
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 1: just like good, good storylines, good drama. You were just

581
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: rooting against them to enjoy the misery. That's the definition.

582
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: Going into it. I thought that I might feel that way,

583
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: but as soon as the game started, I was. I

584
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: was all in on the Yeah. But you even the idea,

585
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 1: the notion that you want to root against the team

586
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 1: just to relish in the misery is a definition of

587
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: being the hater. That's where you are. If you look

588
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: it up in Webster's that's what it's gonna say. Yeah,

589
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: but always Hey, it's gonna talk to Tori um and

590
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 1: he'll be in town, and as he says, he's going

591
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: to be someone who's gonna rout in this area for

592
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: many years to come out house and for sure. So

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Speaker 1: we'll be looking for our next guests and if not

594
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: then it'll just be Garrett. They will bring comment on.

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00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: He keeps asking the PASCO weeks comments been like when

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Speaker 1: do I come back? Comeback? We'll stay back as always.

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Speaker 1: You can reach us at the lounge at Raven's dot

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Speaker 1: NFL dot net and we will be back with you

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Speaker 1: next week. The Boss incidents, the bass Pass passidents, the sensidents,

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