1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Likes to ship. Now it's time to hear from my man, 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: Rashan McDonald money Making Conversations. Here we come. Welcome to 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: money Making Conversations. I am your host, ras Sean McDonald. 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: It is important to understand that everybody travels a different 5 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: path to success. That's because your brand is different and 6 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: the challenge you're facing your life will be different. We 7 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: live from different parts of the country, talk to different people, 8 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 1: different levels of education. So stop reading to other people's 9 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: success story and start writing your own now. I say 10 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: that honestly because you can't be motivated by that success 11 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: and a lot of people are. But there are different people. 12 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: They have different talents, they have different ways they've gotten 13 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: to that journey. Because your stories can't offer you a 14 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: different direction for you to be successful. And remember this 15 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 1: is about your planning and your committed effort that makes 16 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: you successful. My next guest is Sharrelle Dorsey. She's the 17 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: founder and CEO of the Plug, a digital news and 18 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: insights platform covering the black innovative community innovations community, I 19 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: should say her work has been featured in Vice, The 20 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: Washington Post, and more. Sharille has been contributing edge to 21 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: for notable publications like Columbia Journalism Review, Fast Company, Black Enterprise, 22 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: and others. The Plug and Word have partnered to highlight 23 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: black tech and innovative innovations within the Philadelphia community by 24 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: pulling together their resources to create greater impact through storytelling. 25 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: Please work with the money making conversations Shale Dorsey, How 26 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 1: you doing this? Dorsey? Hi? Thank you so much for 27 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: having me or So. It's such a pleasure to be 28 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: um here with you today and being part of this conversation. 29 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: I'm really excited about the work that we're doing in Philadelphia. 30 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: So what does that work? So let's go and get 31 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: down to the heart of the matter. Because I hear 32 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: the word storytelling, you know, storytelling and the era of 33 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: the pandemic and the financial crisis Black people and the 34 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: financial gap is getting further and further apart. What is 35 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: hbc US finally being recognized for their contribution. That's the 36 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: one positive thing has come out of What do you 37 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: say storytelling? What do you what do you mean when 38 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: you say that? Absolutely so, the way in which we 39 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: tell story is about who it is that we are 40 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: and how we contribute specifically to society matters right. For 41 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: too long we've seen innovation and genius only look like 42 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: one archetype. Right. We talk about the Bill Gates, the 43 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: Mark Zuckerberg's, we talk about the Elon Musks, but you 44 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: rarely see the conversations about folks that come from communities 45 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: that look like ours being genius and what they've produced 46 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: and created and what they also lead within their communities 47 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: and how that particular impact UM is really changing the 48 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: paradigm for so many of us. And so you know, 49 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: I have the privilege through the Plug, which is a 50 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: UM digital subscription based in insights news platform, we cover 51 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: the black innovation economy across the country. And this year 52 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: we have the privilege of receiving a grant from the 53 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: Olympus Institute, UM and some community partners to work in 54 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: collaboration with Word Radio and Philadelphia to cover what does 55 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: black and brown innovation look like on the ground, especially 56 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: amid such a tumultuous time as COVID nineteen. And we 57 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: know that black businesses disproportionately have been the most affected UM, 58 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: just as black people have from a healthcare standpoint, and 59 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: so UM as we look at the storytelling conversation UM 60 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: ensuring that we are covering the highest millows of this 61 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,399 Speaker 1: and how it affects our communities is super super critical, 62 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: um right now, and also as we look toward a 63 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: new year with you know, new administration and new needs 64 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: from a policy perspective. You know, it's really interesting that 65 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: because the names you mentioned earlier, you know, Elon Musk 66 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: and uh Zuckenberg and Bill Gates, well the top five 67 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: richest people in the world. And I look at insight 68 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: and information sometimes, UM, I think black news has been diversified, 69 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: or maybe it's not as clean as it was when 70 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: I was growing I grew up in Jet magazine. I 71 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: grew up on the ebony, you know, and so this 72 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: is truly you know, the black storytelling. You know, they 73 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: told us who the Black Tops ten songs, the Black 74 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: ten Top ten TV shows? I knew everything. And so 75 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: is there is diversity too much? Or do we need 76 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: to get narrow the information based sometimes to be able 77 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: to get the true information and success stories of Black Americans. 78 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: I think that we need nuance in all cases and 79 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: places and spaces. You know, black folks are not a monolith. 80 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 1: I think we share so many similar challenges because you know, 81 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: good old fashioned American history has has shown us some 82 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: of the tools and tactics that have been used against us, 83 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 1: whether it was redlining our communities, not providing adequate transportation 84 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: options or food, um access options. A lot of our cities, 85 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: from you know, Seattle, you know, where I'm from originally, 86 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: to you know, Kansas City, to you know, Tallahassee, Florida. 87 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: I mean, we've all experienced the same levels of what 88 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: systemic racism has done to our communities, our schools, our 89 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: health care centers, um, all of those things. And so 90 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: we have that shared experience of what you know, discriminatory 91 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: systems have done to limit genius and limit innovation. Um. 92 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: But but when we look very closely, we still see 93 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: that there are so many great pockets of genius and 94 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: people who have survived from the worst of the atrocities 95 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: of American racism, and that place such a tremendous factor 96 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: in terms of where we are today, particularly as we 97 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: are battling you know, one of the most distinctive moments 98 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: in our time from a public health standpoint, and then 99 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 1: also from an economic one as well. Um. You know, 100 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: and and you know, a decade ago, I was graduating 101 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 1: from college in the height of a recession, you know, 102 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: and now when we look at home ownership rates amongst 103 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: amongst black folks in this country, we see a tremendous decline. 104 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: We see the shift of in the growth of the 105 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: way of the racial wealth gap in terms of you know, 106 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: things really moving backwards. And so I love to talk 107 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: about what innovation looks like in our communities and the 108 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: opportunities that exists, be that making investments in entrepreneurs who 109 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: are building high growth tech companies and the companies that 110 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: are going to drive the future. Um, I think that 111 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: you know, there's there's just plenty of opportunity here to 112 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: take a look at all the dimensions in which black 113 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: and brown folks live and work and play and finding 114 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 1: ways to help people connect the dots and synthesize. Here 115 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: are the movers and the shakers. Here the opportunities that 116 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: we are really examining from a city by cities perspective 117 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: to also ensure that, okay, are black and brown folks 118 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: and the majority is they call majority minority city getting 119 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: their fair share of support considering all of the other 120 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: challenges that are up against us. Why did you choose 121 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: the city of Philadelphia? Philadelphia for for a number of reasons, 122 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 1: super interesting city, to me family there. My family really 123 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 1: originates out of battle you said, Seattle earlier, now in Atlanta, 124 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: and now in Philadelphia. So you got the coast in 125 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: the South lockdown. Yeah, I've got a locked down. I 126 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: got locked down. My grandparents left to the South, moved 127 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: to Detroit, you know, in the fifties and sixties, and 128 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: my grandfather ended up going to Bowing in the seventies. 129 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: He got recruited to go work for Boeing. So most 130 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: black folks that ended up in Seattle got there because 131 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: of companies like Boeing Um. And so that's my grandfather. 132 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: You know. My grandfather left Detroit, you know, after he 133 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: came back from the military, and and that's how that's 134 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: how he ended up in Seattle. And his sister went 135 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: over to Philadelphia, got married and moved to Philadelphia. So 136 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: I grew up going back and forth to those cities. 137 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: But having such a deep, rich history in Philadelphia is 138 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: one of the top rising tuck hubs in the country. 139 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: It's also one of the majority black right in the 140 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: state of Pennsylvania, highly populated with black and Latin X 141 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: people in communities who are are slowly starting to be 142 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: pushed out right of the very city that um that 143 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: that decided not to make the necessary investments to ensure 144 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: that these crapo folks got to participate in what we 145 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: call the innovation economy, so really preparing people for the 146 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: jobs of the future, which are driven by things like 147 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: artificial intelligence, learning, automation, the kind of things like when 148 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: we go to the grocery store and you don't have 149 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: to go to the checkout person, you can go right 150 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: over there to the machine. Those kinds of things. You know, 151 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: we we over indexed as a people in service space businesses. UM. 152 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: So when we look at places like cities, cities like 153 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: Philadelphia where you know, investors and developers come in and 154 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: buy up the blocks and you know transform you know, 155 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: a community overnight into you know, very expensive housing. We've 156 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: seen that story all across America. But we wanted to 157 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: make sure as Philadelphia was starting to um face its 158 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: own economic changes, we really were take you gona look at, Okay, 159 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: what is the city doing to prepare these groups of 160 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: residents and citizens who have been there for generations? UM, 161 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: what are they doing to help ensure that these folks 162 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: also get an opportunity to get investment. We see the 163 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: Google Google for startups. Having invested in two companies, UM, 164 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,359 Speaker 1: you know, black owned tech companies in the city of Philadelphia. 165 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: You know we're seeing UM. You know, some of the 166 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: administration really focus on workforce opportunities within the tech space. 167 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: So I think it's just an interesting case study. I 168 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: have just ties to the city, UM, the people itself. 169 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 1: I have family there that are still in North Philly, 170 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: West Philly and Germantown. UM. And so I think that 171 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: that city, that that Philadelphia truly is a microcosm of 172 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: the rest of America. Okay, when in October fifth the 173 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: partnership incorporate the plug host and a bi monthly segment 174 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: on Word every other Monday, tell us about that. So 175 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: we get an opportunity to talk about some of the 176 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: reporting that we've done, UM, particularly within the city of Philadelphia. 177 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: And so UM we have one one of the great 178 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: things that the grant allowed us to do also find 179 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: a local reporting fellows. So we have Hadrian Lowe Cren 180 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: who happens to be an undergrad at the University of Pennsylvania, 181 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: and UM, she's on the ground really really creating some 182 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 1: incredible reporting stories. One of her lightest pieces was on 183 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: how a crowdfunding campaign UM that was created by black 184 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 1: doctors who developed a consortium to provide access to COVID 185 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: testing for black Philadelphia ands UM. It was an incredible 186 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: piece that she did. So we go on live every 187 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 1: other Monday with Word to talk through these pieces and 188 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: these discoveries of what's going on in the community and 189 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: to talk about how does that fit into the scope 190 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: of innovation and opportunity within the city. UM. 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That's O T T 232 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: E R dot Ai. Well, you're really interesting because when 233 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: I'm here and now, is your your version of what 234 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: I grew up with Black Enterprise, Ebony Jet magazine from 235 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: a technical standpoint, and the words you're finding where you 236 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: can get the truth. You know you can hear about black, 237 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 1: black leaders, black financiers, because right now the journal media 238 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 1: just wants to tell us about athletes to make a 239 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: lot of money. I want to tell us about entertainers 240 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: that will make a lot of money, box office success. 241 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: But when you're talking about, like you said, you was 242 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: able to ride off the top five financially successful men 243 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 1: in the world, I don't know who the top five 244 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: financially successful African Americans in the world. I should be 245 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: able to rattled that off. And I feel that's what 246 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: I would get from you. What you're what you're doing 247 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: with the word and the plug is being able to 248 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 1: provide at home for that information and also create conversation. 249 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: That's where you get the insights from correct. Absolutely absolutely, 250 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: and I think overall, you know, when it comes to 251 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: data capture of black folks, a lot of the conversations 252 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: have been somewhat dismal. Right, it's about lack and disparity 253 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: and deficits. You know. The reality is this, we know 254 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: that we are severely underfunded and under resource compared to 255 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,839 Speaker 1: our white counterparts, right, they got a four hundred year 256 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: heads start, right, And so for us to leverage statistics 257 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 1: solely based on our relationship to whiteness, I think is 258 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,719 Speaker 1: the quickest way for us to lose imagination about the 259 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: capabilities of black and brown people. And so the way 260 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: in which you know the plug and even through our 261 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: project with work, our question isn't to ask what isn't 262 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: is to ask what is where? Where does the opportunity 263 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: happen um that allows us to help train up skill 264 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: Reskale and provide guidance, you know, to those who want 265 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: to create and build a better future, particularly for for 266 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: people in within communities that look like them. And so 267 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: I think overall we have to really think through our 268 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: media again and what is the purpose and what is 269 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: the context? You know, you mentioned the early publishing days 270 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: of some of the black media publishers, you know, Chicago 271 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: of being that hub um. Kind of on a side note, 272 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: you know, we did a podcast series called The Clark 273 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: Street Project really really taking a look at um, you know, 274 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: looking at the associated Negro press, right and and sort 275 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: of those early black journalists who are covering our communities 276 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: and providing nuance what the black experience really looks like 277 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: in America. And that is so significant in in that 278 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: concept of storytelling. What she's what she alluded to earlier. 279 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, I'm happy that you see then I'm 280 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: happy to see that they're from a technical standpoint, well, 281 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: you know, the thing about it is that Black enterprise 282 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: is doing a great job rolling out of these magazines. 283 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: But somehow, you know, they they they hit a wall, 284 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: They hit a wall of being able to reach a 285 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: certain demographic from a social standpoint, and where you're providing 286 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: information that I think it's like, you know, when you 287 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: feed a baby, you kind of like take the little spoon. 288 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: You don't give a big old tablespoon of food to 289 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: a baby t you you give it to him, They 290 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: sample and they come back for more. And that's what 291 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: I feel that your platform is is a great sampling platform. 292 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: And once you get there, you want more information because 293 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: you provide the information, which in turn gives us an 294 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: insight to be successful. Because I always tell people, if 295 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: you don't know your story, that's where the storytelling comes from. 296 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: If you don't know your story and go to a 297 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: place where somebody is telling your story accurately and consistently, 298 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: then that's where you don't get your story. You get 299 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: a partial rendering of what they want you to hear. 300 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: You know, words the timeline eventually pushed your story out 301 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: of the headlines. And that's what you're not doing correct 302 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: absolutely And at the end of the day, you know, 303 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna train data journalist UM and computational data journalist. 304 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: And you know what I love about word is working 305 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: with the talented group of media players. You know UM, 306 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: you know Sarah lo Max Reese is also we both 307 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: are two women that graduated from Columbia Journalism School. Right, 308 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: black women running, you know, media publications that are significantly 309 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: focused on the Black experience and elevating our opportunities within 310 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: the spaces that are that are controlling the world. Right technology, 311 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: especially now we've accelerated in technology and work from home 312 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: and future of work. Um, you know, the kind of 313 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: the jobs of the future are here now, right, And 314 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: so you know, when I look at that, I believe 315 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: that media's job, especially Black media's job, is to help 316 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 1: us along the way. You know, if I'm honest, I 317 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: feel that, you know, I feel that our media didn't 318 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: give us the necessary language to keep moving forward and 319 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: to find the opportunities to get us in this space. 320 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: I think in some instances we we confused. Um, you know, 321 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: we confused the ability to profile people's businesses as entertainment 322 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 1: instead of instruction. Right. When I think about the case 323 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: studies and the knowledge needed to really build out a 324 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: strong and sustainable company, I don't think that we guide 325 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: it the way in the way that we needed to 326 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: for the kind of future that was coming, you know. 327 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: And I can't speak to other publications and sort of 328 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: what resources they have, but I do know that running 329 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: a black media publication is a challenge and know that 330 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: you know, advertising revenue has largely been eaten up by 331 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: social media and social media platforms, and so the distinctive 332 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: thing about the Plug is we've been revenue focused from 333 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: day one. UM, you know, having a subscription base where 334 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: we do have a free weekly briefing and then for 335 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 1: premium tier subscriptions to some of our our exclusive content, 336 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: you know, we're able to have more paid version and 337 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: really attract a group of professionals and executives that really 338 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: look to us for guidance on how should we be 339 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: making business decisions as it relates to ensuring an inclusive 340 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: and diverse workforce, UM and community. And so I think 341 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: it's just a hard business. And I think that you know, 342 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: in order to continue to evolve, we have to be 343 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: hyper tuned into what the data is telling us and 344 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 1: using the data to really drive the way that we 345 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 1: tell our stories and the way that we inform our 346 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: public and really help equip the decision makers with the 347 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: resources they need to make better decisions on behalf of 348 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: our communities. Well, you I love your tone first of all, 349 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 1: here you are storyteller yourself. Yeah, that they have a 350 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: very um, very casual, very easy going, fact based information 351 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: that comes out of this you articulate on a daily basis. 352 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: That's why I can appreciate. I was kind of confused 353 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: about the storytelling earlier, but I clearly see it now 354 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 1: because of the fact that my life and what the 355 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: information I'm able to share you share what you is 356 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: based on a resource that I had growing up that 357 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 1: somewhere along the line I thought got lost when rap 358 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: music came out and that became our storytelling was rap 359 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 1: music that there was our future storytelling, but some our 360 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: loane the line, technology has to be we have to 361 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 1: gain control of that technology because that's where everything is 362 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: being disseminated, Like you said, social media through the digital platforms, 363 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: and now you're creating a platform that allows us to 364 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: be a part of it. Tell us about that platform 365 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: and how can we participate. Absolutely, I would love for 366 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: your your audience here, your readers, your listeners, your viewers 367 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 1: to go to TP insights dot com, so just the 368 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: plug insights dot com. Um, this is really where we 369 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,239 Speaker 1: have the bulk of our convisioned so um you know, 370 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 1: giving you an opportunity to subscribe to our weekly briefing. UM, 371 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: you know, we're in your inbox every single Monday. UM, 372 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: you know, really giving you a lens on. Here's what 373 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: you need to know, here's what we're starting to examine. UM, 374 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: here are kind of the top conversations that are happening 375 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 1: across the ecosystem. And again, you know, it really is 376 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: is a way to kind of quickly digest what's taking 377 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: place and not be intimidated by the language or the 378 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,959 Speaker 1: kind of companies that are being built. You know, technology 379 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 1: is accessible. We just you know, we try to slow 380 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: it down a bit so that way, UM, everyone can 381 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: be can feel, you know, can truly feel, you know, 382 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,719 Speaker 1: ready ready for what's coming. So real. So I just 383 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: provide you with us my email address, my first and 384 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: last name, my email address. That's all you need from me. 385 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: Every money. Subscribe right to the weekly briefing and start 386 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: getting it every Monthyrif is it like a one cheeter? 387 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: Is several pages a click pages or what is it? 388 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: So it comes to you as a as a newsletter 389 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: right to your email. So you're opening up your email, 390 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 1: you're just you're reading the information. There's a note for 391 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: myself and my managing editor. UM, and we we you know, 392 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: we we detail here's what we're reading, Here's what you 393 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 1: should be reading. Here the most significant pieces of the 394 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: news in terms of black tech news. Um and it 395 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: just comes to your to your email inbox. It's just 396 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: that simple. Well, guess what, Rashan McDonald's gonna sign up 397 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 1: because we because it's information. I know, I'm gonna talling. 398 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 1: I read my LinkedIn, I read my Houston chronifles from 399 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: used to credit or reach a j C. So I 400 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: have not been able to find a platform which I 401 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: feel is much more you know, different radio formats I 402 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,479 Speaker 1: go to are we black in the fide? But this 403 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: is a little bit different. I think this is socially 404 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: tech friendly, so socially friendly, and it also allows me 405 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: to appeal to the journal population. You know, if I 406 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: go to if I go to Essence, that's female centric, okay, 407 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: and uh and and so I know that jet mc 408 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: he really doesn't exist like it used to exist. And 409 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: you know, thevorce of ebony is not what it was previously. 410 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 1: So you're creating a new voice and a very powerful 411 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: wars from a techno standpoint, and you've accepted the fact 412 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: that hey, we're going to deliver information to you every Monday. 413 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: If all you have, you just give us your first 414 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 1: and last name and your email address, which in turn 415 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: gives you information about who your potential base is. Correct. 416 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: The insights, yeah, absolutely, um and in word scraping industry 417 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 1: data private um information data, public data um to to 418 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: really deliver interesting insights on on business growth, on opportunity growth, 419 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: what have you. So there's a lot there UM and 420 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: it's such a great entry point to just go to 421 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: TV insights dot com, subscribe to the newsletter. Just start there. 422 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: It's really simple. Well I will start there. My friend, 423 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 1: I'm talking to Surrell Dorsey. She val way of you 424 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: know friend parents with the Detroit when Old Seattle and 425 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: the other system went to the phil It Dolph you 426 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: to you know, the grandfather and over to Yeah. This 427 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: she's landed in in Atlanta, Georgia with me. She's reconnected 428 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: with the people in Philadelphia, which is as they said, 429 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 1: a high black African American population is in Philadelphia, the 430 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: state of Pennsylvania. I've been there many times. That whole 431 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 1: Eastern Cardigor is heavy with African American faces and places 432 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 1: to do and participate in. But more importantly, it's your voice. 433 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: You the CEO of the Plug, a digital news and 434 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: insight platform for black economy and innovation. In any parting 435 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: words about this great platform because you you moved before, 436 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: I'm I'm really genuinely excited because referenced I got you 437 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: excited ra Sean, because when as soon as you start 438 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 1: saying jet and ebony, I mean, that's so hard to feel. No, 439 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: but that's the right shoes to feel, because we'son to 440 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 1: say that is that I always you know, I talked 441 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: to a lot of people. I'm always uh yeah, I 442 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: just I just feed on information, you know, my minor sociology. 443 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: I've always on er entertainment. I try to be topical. 444 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: I always tell people you can't be young, but you 445 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: can't be topical. You mean you can't be relevant, you 446 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: can't be current. And you're telling me that I have 447 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: a platform now that it can be delivered to my 448 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: It's part of my mantro. On Monday, I get it 449 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 1: four o'clock in the morning. What time does the newsletter 450 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 1: usually hit your mailbox? We usually have it out by 451 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 1: one o'clock in the afternoon, so it would be part 452 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: of my afternoon information base, which or I may move 453 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: it to my four EM because at four am I 454 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: get up every day and four m so every part 455 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 1: of my four am reading right before I read my 456 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: Houston Chronicle and then I'll be I'll be learning things 457 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: and I can we comment, can we give you feedback 458 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: on different things or can you rep to the to 459 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 1: the newsletter? Um, And that goes right to my team. 460 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: You know, we are always you know, getting feedback and 461 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: hearing what our audience is doing. And so it's a 462 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: it's a two way street for us for sure. Well, 463 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 1: thank you. I'm gonna put a big thank you, Cherrelle Dorsey. 464 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: I needed this. Uh, you know, I bring people on 465 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 1: the show. It's money making conversation, but it's about life. 466 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: You know, different ways you achieve economic and social success. 467 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: More important is about relationships and the fact that your 468 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: mind need an opportunity in the city of Philadelphia, which 469 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: is recently becoming a hotbed of political political under undertakings 470 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: by our departing President Donald Trump. That lets you know 471 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: that your voice is important. Information you're giving from a 472 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 1: social from a digital and from your insight information standpoint 473 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 1: is important because I'm not getting my information from our 474 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 1: heart and might giving my information where they won't even 475 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 1: share it from Amazon, they won't even share from Google, 476 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 1: they won't share the Facebook. So you yourself is building 477 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 1: a base of reliability and credibility that we can come 478 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 1: and get that shared digital information. Thank you, awesome, absolutely, 479 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: thank you so much for having me today, and thank 480 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: you for having this platform as well. It's definitely a 481 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: big teacher for us. All awesome. Well, you'll be saying 482 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 1: my name pop up in your registry and I will 483 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 1: share my staff to sign up to because of my company. 484 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: Thirty fifteen Media is about, you know, creating diverse platform 485 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: information for minorities, are people of color. Again, anytime you 486 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 1: want to come to my show, I'm gonna put some 487 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 1: putting my news letter that goes out to ninety two 488 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: thousand fans, uh, twice them up. So I'm gonna help 489 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: to spread the word about what you guys are doing, 490 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: because again, we need to know what you know, okay, 491 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: and you know a lot and so if you tell 492 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 1: us what you know, we'll be a lot stronger and 493 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: a safer community and a much more knowledgeable community to 494 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: be able to compete. And that's what you're about. You 495 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: try to put us in the line to be to compete, 496 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: and if we don't compete, then guess what, we can't win. 497 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 1: Thank you, absolutely, thank you, thank you for having me right. 498 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 1: Great when you come back on the show, and we'll 499 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,199 Speaker 1: bring back on the show the first quarter so we 500 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 1: can wrap up once they get out of this little 501 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,239 Speaker 1: pandemic run. We know we're going into the vaccination. You 502 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: are important, my friend, because we've gotta be able to 503 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: tell these black people they gotta take this vaccine. But 504 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: when wait a little minute, make sure they're all good. 505 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: They've done all them that conversation with my aunt yesterday. 506 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: Appreciate appreciate it. Thank you so much for this opportunity 507 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: and for sharing your one with me. I'm really looking 508 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: forward to working together again in the future. 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