1 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: From Meat Eaters World News headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. 2 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 2: This is Cow's Week in Review with Ryan cow cawaan 3 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 2: Here's cal Dog lovers in Yellowstone National Park were treated 4 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: to a stomach churning few moments as a German shepherd 5 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: launched itself from the window of a moving vehicle and 6 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 2: made a beeline for a gray wolf. The incident was 7 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 2: caught in an amazing series of photos by a Yellowstone 8 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 2: tour guide and posted on Facebook. In the photos, you 9 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 2: can see a long haired German shepherd running at what 10 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 2: looks like full speed down a paved road as a 11 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: young gray wolf lopes away. The dog had apparently seen 12 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 2: its ancient ancestor from its perch inside a JPSUV. Whether 13 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 2: it was answering the call of the wild or just 14 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: looking for a night, it snuck out an open window 15 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,919 Speaker 2: thanks to a poorly conceived child safety device. The wolf 16 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 2: increased its speed from a lope to a trot, but 17 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 2: then suddenly turned and faced its long haired assailant. At 18 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 2: that point, the shepherd was almost literally the dog that 19 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: caught the car. It pulled up about fifteen feet from 20 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 2: the wolf to reconsider its life choices, but at that point, 21 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 2: its owner had gotten out of his car and was 22 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: yelling at the dog to come back. The German shepherd 23 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: made the wise decision to heed its owner's advice and 24 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: return to its life of luxury. It may have rejected 25 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 2: the call of the wild, but it can console itself 26 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 2: with the fact that, unlike that wolf, it doesn't have 27 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 2: to scavenge dead animals from the side of the road. 28 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: Serve your dog, Chuck Wagon, chances are he's already waiting 29 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: for it. 30 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: In Jack London's famous novel, the protagonist Buck is a 31 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 2: mix between his saint Bernard father and his Scotch shepherd mother. 32 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 2: Buck weighs about one hundred and forty pounds, which he 33 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 2: even for a wolf, is a big boy male. Gray 34 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 2: wolves can weigh as much as one hundred and eighty pounds, 35 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 2: but most are closer to one p forty. Buck, in 36 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 2: other words, had a decent shot at becoming an alpha. 37 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 2: I can't say the same for the German shepherd in 38 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 2: this incident. It looks like it outweighs the yearling wolf 39 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 2: by a bit, but not that much. He probably made 40 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 2: a good choice getting back in that jeep. Now I 41 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 2: should address the elephant in the room. I am not 42 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 2: as eagle eared listeners have likely figured out Bryan Callahan 43 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 2: CAL is somewhere above the Arctic Circle in Alaska, and 44 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 2: so was unable to record an episode this week. But 45 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 2: the news doesn't stop, and neither do we. I'm Jordan Sillers, 46 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 2: writer and producer for Cal's Week in Review, managing editor 47 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 2: at the Meteater dot com, and host of our new 48 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 2: true crime podcast, Blood Trails. You're stuck with me for 49 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 2: this week, but don't worry. It's a good one. We 50 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 2: have a record breaking Grizzly, a new hellic hunt in Texas, 51 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 2: and a major lawsuit against Major League Fishing. Plus our 52 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,679 Speaker 2: fearless leader will be back next week and I'm sure 53 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 2: he'll have some amazing stories from his time in the 54 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 2: Great White North. He also called me from an airport 55 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: in Alaska because he had a message he wanted to 56 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 2: deliver that you're not going to want to miss. Here's Kyl. 57 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: Hey gang, welcome to another episode of Cal's we can review. 58 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: If you're hearing this and you're like, boy, that quality 59 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,679 Speaker 1: is not great, it's because I'm sitting on my butt 60 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: and at the Everett Air Center here in Fairbanks, Alaska, 61 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: getting ready to go up to the Artic National Wildlife Refuge. 62 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: There is so much going on that I'm having like 63 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: anxiety leaving for this week in a place that I've 64 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: always wanted to go and see and I've never been. 65 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: So my right arm, Jordan Sillers, is going to take 66 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: over this week's recording of the podcast. I'm calling in 67 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: this intro because as per usual, I'm trying to make 68 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: it all work, and some things are falling through the cracks. 69 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: But your coverage of what's going on out there is 70 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: absolutely critical. Right now, about three million acres of easily accessible, 71 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: open to the every day outdoors person public land is 72 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: on the chopping block. And the reason that it is 73 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: is because this is an experiment. There's a few people 74 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: who despise the fact that we have the freedoms that 75 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 1: we do, and these people have found an opening and 76 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: budget reconciliation process to run this experiment of We're going 77 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: to see how many people lay down on the job 78 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: and how easy it is to take three million acres 79 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: so we can come back and take five the next 80 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: year and ten the year after that. This is not 81 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: an exaggeration, it's not a drill. This is what's happening, 82 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,679 Speaker 1: and if you don't, get off your butts, free loaders 83 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: and start writing emails and making phone calls. And I'll 84 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: give you a good example of how to do this. 85 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: My Senator Steve Dance has a solid position on public 86 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: lands and American freedom are access to these lands. I say, 87 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: Senator Dance or staffer that is listening to me, I 88 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: appreciate your position on public lands. What I need you 89 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: to do is contact Senators Crapo, Senator's Rish, Senator's Thune 90 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: and tell them what public lands mean to the people 91 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: who actually use them, and they are not to be 92 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: included in the budget reconciliation process. I'm going to call 93 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: back tomorrow and ask how those calls went. I'm also 94 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: going to remember that staffer's name, so when I do 95 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: call back, I can be like, oh, Katie, Ryan Callahan, 96 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: we spoke yesterday. Great to hear your voice again. How 97 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: things going. I'm going to break the monotony of that 98 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: job because is right now. Advocates just like yourselves are 99 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 1: calling and emailing constantly, which is great, but we got 100 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: to keep on the pressure and we've got to ask 101 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: for more. It's appropriate to ask for more, right now, 102 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: and you've got to remember that the context here is 103 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: when you show up to a river in Montana, there's 104 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: a lot out of state plates. And it's not because 105 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: they don't understand the value of public land. All of 106 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 1: these Western states, eleven Western states that are going to 107 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 1: lose access to public lands, which by default is going 108 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: to concentrate more outdoors people on the lands we have left, 109 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: i e. Removing the front country, what happens to the 110 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: back country. You got to remember that all these states 111 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: are in the process of regulation battles to address overcrowding 112 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: on public lands. As is, do you really want to 113 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: lose two million, three million, four million and eight, especially 114 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: in a manner that does not refill the pot, which 115 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: is what the budget reconciliation package does. Man, we lose 116 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: something and we don't get it back forever. That is 117 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: what's on the line. This is not hyperbole. And again, 118 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: like I say, don't listen to me, get off your butts, 119 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: go to the Federal Register dot gov and you can 120 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: see the land sales. They're real. Get a hold of 121 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: your duly elected right now, and do not complain to 122 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: me if you don't do this. The last bit that 123 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: I want to lay out there for you before I 124 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: drop off the soapbox and mister Sellers can get onto 125 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: the real news. Here is quit shooting holes in the boat, 126 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: take your personal baggage and put it behind you. There 127 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: is a fire on our front door and it is 128 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: public land sales. We have a bucket brigade running water 129 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: to that fire on the front step through the house. 130 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: And by saying well who did you vote for when 131 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: we don't currently have an election, all you're doing is 132 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: pulling people carrying water to the fire out of line. 133 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: The fight is the fire public land sales, and if 134 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: you're not carrying water to that fire, you may as 135 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: well just stay out of it. We'll get to the 136 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: backyard issues, i e. Elections when the fire is out, 137 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: get in line, star carrying waters onto the news. 138 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 2: Moving on to the lawsuit desk, the family of a 139 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 2: man who died in a boating accident is suing Major 140 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: League Fishing for what they say were negligent decisions made 141 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 2: during the day of an April fishing tournament in Alabama. 142 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 2: On April sixteenth, twenty twenty five, a competitive angler from 143 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 2: Georgia named Flint Davis struck a fishing boat helmed by 144 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 2: guide Gary Holcombe, the owner of Smith Lake Streper Guide Service. 145 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 2: The accident occurred during the Lewis smith Lake Tournament, which 146 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 2: runs for three days and offers a one hundred fifteen 147 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 2: thousand dollars cash prize. Three of Holcomb's clients, who were 148 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 2: not participating in the tournament, fifty eight year old Joey Broome, 149 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 2: forty one year old John Clark, and the sixty two 150 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 2: year old Jeffrey Little, were all struck and killed. Flint 151 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 2: and Holcombe sustained injuries but survived the accident. Now, Broome's 152 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 2: family is suing Major League Fishing, Davis and Holcombe for 153 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 2: what they say was negligent and wanton conduct that resulted 154 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 2: in Broome's death. The suit reads, quote by organizing and 155 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 2: incentivizing high speed boat operation in foggy, congested conditions on 156 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 2: a public waterway shared with recreational and guided vessels MLF, 157 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:55,239 Speaker 2: that's Major League Fishing created a foreseeable risk of serious 158 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 2: injury and death. The suit also alleges that Davis, who 159 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 2: was driving the boat, acted negligently by operating his boat 160 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 2: at a quote excessive and unsafe speed, failing to maintain 161 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 2: a proper lookout and otherwise navigating in a reckless and 162 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 2: dangerous manner under the circumstances. Broome's lawyers contend that Hulcombe, 163 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 2: the fishing guide whose boat was struck, was also partially 164 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 2: responsible for the accident. Holcombe had set up his clients 165 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 2: near what the lawsuit says as a high traffic area 166 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 2: known as Miller Flats. The pseudo ledges that Holcombe should 167 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 2: have known this was a dangerous place to park his 168 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 2: boat and what it describes as low visibility conditions. Now 169 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 2: Major League Fishing has since responded and a counterclaim filed 170 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:44,479 Speaker 2: in Colman County. They call the allegations quote blatantly false, inaccurate, 171 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 2: and misleading. They point out that the weather was actually 172 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 2: sunny and clear on April sixteenth, and that the accident 173 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 2: occurred in open water with plenty of visibility. It's tough 174 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 2: to know exactly what to think about this because officials 175 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 2: haven't released many details about the accident itself. Flint was 176 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 2: driving a Nitro Z twenty one fishing boat while Holcombe 177 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 2: was operating out of a center console vessel. Clark and 178 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 2: Lyttle were thrown overboard and drowned, according to local media, 179 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 2: while Broom was struck and pronounced dead at the scene. 180 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 2: It's true that conditions were fair on the day of 181 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 2: the incident, but the suit alleges that dense fog, missed 182 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 2: or clouds covered quote parts of Lewis Smith Lake that morning. 183 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 2: I think we all know that a lake can be 184 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 2: foggy in the morning, even if the rest of the 185 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 2: day is bright and sunny at the same time. If 186 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 2: you read Broom's lawsuit carefully, you'll notice that it doesn't 187 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 2: actually say the area around where the accident took place 188 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 2: was covered in fog. It just says that parts of 189 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 2: the lake were foggy that day and Davis was driving 190 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 2: too fast. We reached out to Davis, but he didn't 191 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 2: respond as of this recording. He did release a brief 192 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 2: statement on Instagram following the accident. He said quote, I 193 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 2: want to thank everyone for the thoughts and prayers. I 194 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 2: ask that you keep me and all the other affected 195 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 2: people and families in your prayers. I'll let you guys 196 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 2: know more when I can. He has not posted on 197 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 2: the social media site since the first day of the 198 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 2: Smith Lake tournament. Moving on to the hunting lease Desk, 199 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 2: Alabama made the news a few weeks ago for auctioning 200 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 2: off hunting leases on state owned land. Outlets like Outdoor 201 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 2: Life called this auction unusual, and it is true that 202 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 2: states don't frequently sell hunting leases to the public. But 203 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 2: I was able to get us a little more context 204 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 2: for this program that sheds new light on exactly what 205 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 2: is and isn't going on. The auction was held on 206 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 2: May thirty first. Members of the public were able to 207 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 2: bid on one hundred and forty state owned tracts of 208 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 2: land that ranged from forty acres to over thirteen hundred acres. 209 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 2: A forester with the Alabama Department of Conservation of Natural 210 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 2: Resources told us these properties weren't located on dedicated public 211 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 2: hunting land like wildlife management areas or special opportunity areas. 212 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 2: In other words, Alabama isn't auctioning off exclusive access to 213 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 2: properties that used to be open to the public. Instead, 214 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 2: these tracks are managed for the purpose of revenue generation 215 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 2: for various state entities like school boards and mental health boards. 216 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 2: The money generated doesn't go towards conservation, but it does 217 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 2: generate revenue for the state, which theoretically at least helps 218 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 2: retain Alabama's low state tax rates. This also isn't the 219 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 2: first time this kind of auction has been held. The 220 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 2: state held similar auctions for these five year leases in 221 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 2: twenty ten, twenty fifteen, and twenty twenty, so even though 222 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 2: Alabama is somewhat unique in leasing state owned land, this 223 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 2: isn't the first time they've done this. All told, the 224 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 2: auction generated nearly five hundred thousand dollars for the state, 225 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 2: which will be paid out by the leases every year. 226 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 2: The top property was an eight hundred and eighty three 227 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 2: acre tract just outside of Tuscaloosa owned by the Alabama 228 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 2: Department of Mental Health institution. The winning bid for that 229 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 2: property clocked in at eighteen thousand, five hundred dollars, and 230 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 2: it wasn't the only one to break fifteen k. Another 231 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 2: five hundred and fourteen acre property in Fayette and Marion 232 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 2: Counties went for seventeen thousand, five hundred, while a nine 233 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty acre property in Walker County went for 234 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 2: seventeen thousand, two fifty. Now, you might argue that the 235 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 2: state should grant the public access to these properties free 236 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 2: of charge. I'm sympathetic to that argument, but the state 237 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 2: says agencies like the Department of Mental Health rely on 238 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 2: these leases for revenue. It's also worth pointing out that 239 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 2: not all of these properties cost big bucks to rent out. 240 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 2: Thirty of the one hundred and forty properties went for 241 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 2: less than one thousand dollars, like a thirty six acre 242 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 2: tract in Walker County that went for only two sixty. 243 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 2: Western state listeners might balk at that because they have 244 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 2: free access to millions of acres, But in a largely 245 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 2: private land state like Alabama, spending a couple hundred bucks 246 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 2: to have forty acres all to yourself might not seem 247 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 2: like a bad deal. But we want to know what 248 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 2: you think. How much would you be willing to spend 249 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 2: on a forty or one hundred acre lease? Is this 250 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 2: program in Alabama a helpful way to give average hunters 251 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 2: exclusive access or just another grift on the slow slide 252 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 2: toward the privatization of natural resources? Let us know by 253 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 2: writing in to askcl at the Meat Eater dot com 254 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 2: Over at the Crime Desk, the Pennsylvania Game Commission has 255 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 2: broken up a large poaching ring over in Cambria County, 256 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 2: east of Pittsburgh. The bus began with a routine fishing 257 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 2: license check by a PA Game warden who noticed guns, ammunition, 258 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 2: and a spotlight in one suspects vehicle. The angler in 259 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 2: question later admitted to shooting several deer after dark with 260 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 2: the light. Once that thread was pulled, a much larger 261 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 2: operation began to unravel. The Game Commission issued three search 262 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 2: warrants of vehicles and property, uncovering evidence that implicated a 263 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 2: total of eight people in poaching deer with spotlights. After 264 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 2: a thorough investigation, the Game Commission charged the crew with 265 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 2: the following additional crimes, failing to tag deer, killing bucks 266 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 2: that didn't meet legal antler restrictions, hunting with tags from 267 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 2: states other than Pennsylvania, and exceeding legal bag limits. In total, 268 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 2: eleven deer and a gray fox were killed illegally. That's 269 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 2: a pretty full buffet of bad hunter behavior. Jason Wise, 270 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 2: Sandra Wise, Daniel Wise, Isaac Keith, Dan Sodomont, Marina Morgan, 271 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 2: Dennis Corson, and Levi Corson all pleaded guilty to the 272 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 2: charges and will pay thirty five thousand dollars in restitution 273 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 2: and have their hunting and fishing privileges suspended for a 274 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 2: grand total of seventy years. Let's hope they take that 275 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 2: legal boundary more seriously than the other ones they waltzed across. 276 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 2: Kudos to the game wardens and commission officials of the 277 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 2: Keystone State for seeing this one through Across the world. 278 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 2: We finally have some data on a different method of 279 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 2: deterring poaching. Conservationists in South Africa's Kruger National Park have 280 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 2: been cutting off the horns of rhinos over the past 281 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 2: several years to remove the incentive for poachers to kill them. 282 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 2: We reported on this before. Unfortunately, the intervention affects a 283 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 2: rhino's ability to socialize and reduces how far they range. 284 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 2: You know, it kind of makes them depressed. Like if 285 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 2: someone gave you the worst haircut of your life, you'd 286 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 2: lose a bit of your swagger down at the bar 287 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 2: and likely stay home a lot more often. 288 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: I got a bad haircut right before me and my 289 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: big ex broke up, But that was so long ago 290 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 1: now I can barely remember. 291 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 2: Scott is acutely aware that is last a long haircut 292 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 2: in place exactly four hundred and thirty one days ago. 293 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 2: Z So is the chop worth it for the rhinos survival? 294 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 2: Turns out the answer is a resounding yes. A new 295 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 2: study in the journal Science found a seventy eight percent 296 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 2: reduction in poaching among the two thousand, two hundred and 297 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 2: eighty four rhinos that were de horned in Krueger over 298 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 2: the past seven years. Even more eye opening, removing horns 299 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 2: is also by far the cheapest anti poaching intervention. The 300 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 2: annual rhino defense budget in Kruger is almost fifteen million dollars, 301 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 2: which pays for park rangers, tracking dogs, high tech AI cameras, drones, helicopters, 302 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 2: a whole army's worth of gear and personnel. And even 303 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 2: though all this effort does catch hundreds of poachers every year, 304 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 2: corruption and organized crime is so bad at Kruger that 305 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 2: those same poachers are almost never jailed and quickly end 306 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 2: up right back in the park targeting rhinos again. Enforcers 307 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,719 Speaker 2: in the park have been targeted with kidnappings, beatings, and 308 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 2: death threats. The problem got so bad that white rhino 309 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 2: populations crashed from about ten thousan six hundred individuals in 310 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 2: twenty eleven to only twenty six hundred and twenty twenty. 311 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 2: That's a seventy five percent drop. That fifteen million bucks 312 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 2: a year didn't even make a dent. In contrast, darting rhinos, 313 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 2: providing them with blindfolds and earplugs, then chainsawing off their 314 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 2: horns and letting them go costs less than two hundred 315 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 2: grand a year. The one flaw with a de horning 316 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 2: approach has been how fast the horns grow back. Park 317 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 2: workers have to repeat the procedure at least every eighteen months, 318 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 2: and some dehorned rhinos were still poached in the study 319 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 2: period because their stumps had started to regrow. So, unless 320 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 2: the market for rhino horn collapses because people wake up 321 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 2: to the fact that they're just paying for keratin, which 322 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 2: is the exact same substance that makes up the toenails 323 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 2: you clip into the trash and the hair your barber 324 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 2: sweeps off the floor, dehorning rhinos looks like the best 325 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 2: approach we've got. And you know, if there was a 326 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 2: hit man after me and I knew I could escape, 327 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 2: if I got a terrible mullet, I would do my 328 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 2: best to embrace the the business in the front, party 329 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 2: in the back. Moving on to the invasive species desk, 330 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 2: Texas is calling in air support, and it has nothing 331 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 2: to do with politics, the military, or drug cartels. Instead, 332 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 2: the lone Star State is combating an invasive species of 333 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 2: barbary sheep, also known as awdads. Big thanks to listener 334 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 2: Leland Hart for sending us this story. Earlier this year, 335 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 2: the Texas State Legislature passed a bill that will allow 336 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 2: hunters to kill awed ads from helicopters. It flew through 337 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 2: the House and Senate on near unanimous votes. Only one 338 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 2: rep from Dallas voted no in the House, and was 339 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 2: signed by Governor Abbott late last month. Here's one of 340 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 2: the bill's sponsors, a Democrat named Eddie Morales Junior, doing 341 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 2: his best Cow's Week in Review impression on the House floor, 342 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 2: which is coincidentally also what I'm doing in this episode. 343 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 3: We add to twice postpone this because it's not a 344 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 3: bad bill. Now, I'm not pulling any wool over anybody's 345 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 3: eyes either, But seriously, this is an invasive speeches of sheep, 346 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 3: the aud at sheep, and it's causing bacteria that kills 347 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 3: the bighorn sheep. It's important to Texas. What's more liberty 348 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 3: freedom than being able to shoot audit sheet from helicopters. 349 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 3: Tell me about that, right. 350 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 2: The bill doesn't allow just anyone to go up in 351 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 2: a helicopter and start mowing down odd ad sheep. A 352 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 2: landowner or a landowner's agent has to apply for a 353 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 2: permit from Texas Parks and Wildlife, and then that person 354 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 2: can participate in the hunt. The bill adds odd ads 355 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 2: to a short list of animals that can be hunted 356 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 2: from helicopters in Texas, which previously included only feral hogs 357 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 2: and coyotes. In a Texas tale as old as time, 358 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 2: add ad sheep were imported to West Texas by returning 359 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 2: World War II veterans. These gis had served in North Africa, 360 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 2: and they figured the barbary sheep they saw there would 361 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 2: make a great addition to the suite of Texas game animals. 362 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 2: They were right about one thing. Odd Ad sheep thrive 363 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 2: in the mouthinous regions of West Texas and the Panhandle, 364 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 2: and some estimate that there are as many as forty 365 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 2: thousand living in the state. Unfortunately, as is the case 366 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 2: with many invasive species, there were significant downsides. Oddad outcompete 367 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 2: native bighorn sheet for resources, and recent research has found 368 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 2: that they carry a harmful bacteria that has decimated big 369 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 2: horn populations. Odad also harm cattle operations by trampling fences 370 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 2: and causing thousands of dollars in damage. Of course, the 371 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 2: Texas legislature doesn't really want to eliminate all odd ad 372 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 2: from the landscape. Outfitters and landowners make a pretty penny 373 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 2: selling odd ad hunts. There are no bag limits or 374 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 2: seasons on those hunts, and now they have an even 375 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 2: higher dollar option if they can rent themselves a helicopter. 376 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 2: One outfitter who spoke to the Texas Tribune pointed out 377 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 2: that a recreational hunter who spends that kind of money 378 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 2: is looking for an old male sheep. They won't be 379 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 2: shooting females or in the kinds of numbers that will 380 00:22:56,359 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 2: do much to impact the population. A usdat that he 381 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 2: found that feral hog populations can be reduced by as 382 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 2: much as sixty seven percent after three helicopter flights. But 383 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 2: these hunts were conducted by professionals for the purpose of 384 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 2: population control. Texas Parks and Wildlife already had the authority 385 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 2: to conduct aerial gunning of odd ads, so this bill 386 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 2: is more about recreation than species management. Still, if helicopter 387 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 2: hunting attracts more people to West Texas to hunt an 388 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 2: odd ad, that's probably not a bad thing Meeter's very 389 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 2: own cringe. Schneider recently went to Texas to hunt an 390 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 2: odd ad. She didn't use a helicopter, but it still 391 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 2: looked like a great time. Moving on to the grizzly desk, 392 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 2: a Wisconsin hunter tag what is now the Boone and 393 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 2: Crocket record for the largest grizzly bear ever harvested by 394 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 2: a human. Brian Van Lanen shot the giant bruin last 395 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 2: fall near Norton Sound, Alaska. He knew it would likely 396 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 2: be a top ten giant, but after a sixty day 397 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 2: drying period, the Boone and Crocket Club recently confirmed that 398 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 2: it's the largest hunt killed grizzly in the world. Van 399 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 2: Lannen was hunting alongside Lance Kronberger of freelance Outdoor Adventure. 400 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 2: According to a Boon and Crockett press release, Van Lanen 401 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 2: had been hunting for a grizzly since the spring of 402 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, but his luck turned last fall when 403 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 2: late in the evening on the second day, he and 404 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 2: Kronberger saw a bear that piqued their interest. It was 405 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 2: browsing along an alder patch, but it was too late 406 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 2: in the evening to put a stock on it. Fortunately, 407 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 2: when they got up the next morning, they saw a 408 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 2: similarly sized bear working along a riverbank. They decided to 409 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 2: make a move, but as they were working down from 410 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 2: their glassing knob, another grizzly appeared. Both boers were about 411 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 2: the same size, and one started chasing the other. The 412 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 2: hunters doubled their efforts to keep the bears in sight, 413 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 2: and suddenly one of the bears emerged about four hundred 414 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 2: yards away. Van Lanen hustled to get his three thirty 415 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 2: eight Lapo a magnum rifle, in position and pulled the trigger. 416 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 2: The hunter shot rolled the bear on its side, but 417 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 2: it got up and headed towards a patch of alders. 418 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 2: Van Lanen sent several follow up shots down range, but 419 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 2: it wasn't until they caught up to the bear near 420 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 2: the river bank that two final shots put the bear 421 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 2: down for good. The head of the massive bore was 422 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 2: covered in scar tissue from years of fighting, Its bottom 423 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 2: lip was split in half, and its teeth were worn 424 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 2: to nups. Kronberger estimated that it was twenty to twenty 425 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 2: five years old, which is the average age most grizzlies 426 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 2: lived to in the wild, but for whatever reason, this 427 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 2: one had grown to be especially large. Its official skull 428 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,719 Speaker 2: measurement of twenty seven and nine sixteenths inches makes it 429 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 2: the largest grizz to be harvested by a hunter since 430 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 2: the Boon and Crockett Club began recording skull measurements in 431 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 2: the nineteen twenties. The only larger skull in the B 432 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 2: and C Books was found by a hunter in nineteen 433 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 2: seventy six and measures twenty seven and thirteen sixteenths inches. 434 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 2: Congrats to Van Lanen on an awesome bear. If you 435 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 2: want to see it for yourself, you can head on 436 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 2: over to the meaeater dot com, where we've published images 437 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 2: of the bear, including from our very own Ranch Williams, 438 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 2: who saw the skull in person at the thirty second 439 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 2: Big Game Awards display at the Wonders of Wildlife Museum 440 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 2: in Springfield, Missouri. That's all I have for you this week. 441 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening. I had a great 442 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 2: time guest hosting, but I know no one can fill 443 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 2: the shoes of the great and powerful Ryan cal Callahan. 444 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 2: Tune in next week to hear about Cal's trip to 445 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 2: the Arctic, along with all the latest news and info. 446 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 2: To amaze your friends and astound your enemies, and don't 447 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 2: forget to write in to ask C. A. L At 448 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 2: the meeteater dot com and let us know what's happening 449 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 2: in your neck of the woods. We'll see you next week.