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Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live presented by Callida Health.

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Speaker 2: How the heck are you welcome to One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, see task me with you here on a Monday,

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Speaker 2: and it is a different kind of Monday here at

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Speaker 2: One Bill's Drive.

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Speaker 3: Is it a different kind of Monday?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you asked, Steve, because it is the start

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Speaker 2: of organized team activities dramatic music. Today was day one

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Speaker 2: of what we'll you know in s be ten practice

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Speaker 2: sessions for the Bills. As we are now in phase

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Speaker 2: three of the offseason program, so Bills OTA practice sessions

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Speaker 2: began today. Players took the field around eleven thirty. Their

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Speaker 2: first open session to the media will be tomorrow, and

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Speaker 2: we'll have footage for you here as well on One

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Speaker 2: Bills Live tomorrow. There will be ten sessions in all,

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Speaker 2: as I mentioned, that'll run through June seventh, and then

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Speaker 2: it will be followed by mandatory mini camp June eleventh.

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Speaker 4: To the thirteenth. And the Bills are not alone. There

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Speaker 4: are twenty other.

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Speaker 2: Teams in the NFL that began their OTA practice sessions

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Speaker 2: today as well, including a couple of AFC East rivals.

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Speaker 3: Steve, Yeah, and this is I mean we see it here.

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Speaker 3: They're out playing dodgeball and tug of war the last

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Speaker 3: couple of weeks. Now it's football. It's football.

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Speaker 2: Looks like a football, granted helmets and shorts. Yeah, no

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Speaker 3: Not no real football. But they are on you, one

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Speaker 3: on one, seven on seven, right, they can compete. They can.

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Speaker 3: They're installing, they're doing football things, and they're they're putting

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Speaker 3: in plays, they're getting situated where they're going to you know,

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Speaker 3: all that stuff. This is real football practice with installations,

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Speaker 3: with terminologies, with schemes and concepts. This is high level

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Speaker 3: stuff now. And that's uh, it's gonna go on for

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Speaker 3: a couple of weeks. Now, that's that's big. That's big

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Speaker 3: because you can read it. I told Brownie that this

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Speaker 3: is you've got to find out who's there's so many

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Speaker 3: new faces. Yeah, this is when you got to say, Okay,

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Speaker 3: here you go. You're lining up here, you're first. These

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Speaker 3: guys are first, these guys are second. You guys work,

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Speaker 3: You're gonna rotate it. All that stuff starts happening, and

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Speaker 3: it is a race to get as many reps under

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Speaker 3: your belt as a player as you can possibly get.

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Speaker 2: And the rookies who were here a short time ago

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Speaker 2: for rookie Mini Caamp Mother's Day weekend, they're now with

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Speaker 2: the big boys. They're with the Vets now because everybody's

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Speaker 2: here and this is the challenge and day one Steve

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Speaker 2: has often made the reference it's like trying to drink

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Speaker 2: out of a fire hose without drowning. That's what the

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Speaker 2: rookies are facing here today in terms of what's going

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Speaker 2: on in the classrooms and then the speed at which

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Speaker 2: things are happening on the field. We all know that

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Speaker 2: head coach Sean McDermott wants players to compete in practice

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Speaker 2: as close to game speed as possible. That is going

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Speaker 2: to be adjustment in and of itself for rookies who

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Speaker 2: are not only trying to execute the play correctly, but

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Speaker 3: Well, yes, and they're also trying to do it because

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Speaker 3: you don't want, you know, And it's always an issue

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Speaker 3: for first day or two where you know, some young

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Speaker 2: It is helped by the rules now which say, you know,

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Speaker 3: But it's the NFL takes that to a level where

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Speaker 3: I don't think the NCAA does yet. Plus the NBA.

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Speaker 3: And so sometimes rookies get out there and there used

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Speaker 3: it's a huge adjustment. It begins today. It begins today. Really,

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Speaker 3: this is a big step, I think, and not just

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Speaker 2: Bills, but for a bunch of other teams. As we mentioned,

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Speaker 2: that includes the division rival Dolphins. We were talking about

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Speaker 2: that Dolphins quarterback to a Tongue of Iloa might skip

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Speaker 2: But he is in the building for the start of

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Speaker 2: Tongue of Iolo has said to the media today he

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Speaker 2: Chris Greer was quoted and he said they're hopeful and

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Speaker 2: that deals like this rarely come together quickly. He said

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Speaker 2: they'll keep working on it through the course of the offseason.

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Speaker 2: Jaguars are another team with a quarterback up for a

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Speaker 2: contract extension and Trevor Lawrence. As they open up OTAs

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Speaker 2: Lawrence is in attendance, head coach Doug Peterson on an

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Speaker 2: extension for Lawrence, said the following quote, Obviously, the sooner

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Speaker 2: you get it done, it's behind everybody and now we

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Speaker 2: not out there. So it's clear that both organizations want

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Speaker 2: to get their quote unquote franchise quarterbacks signed to new deals.

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Speaker 2: I'm just curious where the average annual value comes in

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Speaker 2: for each of these two players. Trevor Lawrence can say

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Speaker 2: he's won a playoff game to it cannot So does

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Speaker 2: that mean he gets more money. I don't know. We'll

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Speaker 2: have to see. I mean to it led the league

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Speaker 4: I think they both eclipsed fifty a year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll say this. I think there's probably well on

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Speaker 3: both sides. Think about the head coaching on both sides.

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Speaker 3: Doug Peterson and Mike McDaniel, both those coaches seem to

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Speaker 3: Mike McDaniel almost to almost you know, methinks he does

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Speaker 3: knows that's what pushes his buttons. I don't know if

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Speaker 3: he says the same thing in private. Doug Peterson. You

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Speaker 3: get the feeling, particularly with the guy like Trevor Lawrence,

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Speaker 3: that guy's got all the tools. And Doug Peterson is

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Speaker 3: the guy who got an MVP performance out of Carson

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Speaker 4: In a Super Bowl performance out of Nick Foles.

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Speaker 3: And yes, so he's got to be considered more of

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Speaker 3: and plus he played the position, he's got to be

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Speaker 3: is saying, hey, yeah, this, we got to keep this guy.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna he's our guy. And I'll tell you this,

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Speaker 3: you don't want to be the team that has the

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Speaker 3: other guy signed first, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because then you gotta up it.

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Speaker 3: You gotta up it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if Lawrence.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure because Burrow is the highest right

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Speaker 2: now at fifty five. Goff just signed for fifty three

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Speaker 2: average annual value. Yeah, Trevor's coming off a down year.

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Speaker 2: Does he You know Goff went to the NFC title game?

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Speaker 2: Does he get fifty two a year?

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Speaker 3: Maybe? If here's the thing too, what if what if

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Speaker 3: they're trying to give him forty five a year?

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Speaker 4: Eh?

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Speaker 3: And Trevor, Yeah, and Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 4: I think you know Lawa is fifty right?

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Speaker 3: If I'm Trevor Lawrence, I'll say this, And it's easy

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Speaker 3: I don't sign it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna.

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Speaker 3: I'll take my listener. You don't have to pay me

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Speaker 3: because I'll tell you what in two years, or you

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Speaker 3: can franchise me.

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Speaker 2: There isn't a player position with more leverage in football

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Speaker 2: than quarterback. I mean, they can really upset.

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Speaker 3: I'll say this. I go to the kirk Cousins route.

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Speaker 3: Bet on me, bet on me, bet on me, and

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Speaker 3: make him franchise because your franchise tags aren't going way up.

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Speaker 3: I mean he'll make fifty grand a year, fifty million

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Speaker 3: a year on the franchise tag, and that's guaranteed.

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Speaker 2: I think the floor is fifty right, both of these

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Speaker 4: I think t will be somewhere between Burrow and Goff.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why, but I feel like Lawrence will

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Speaker 2: be between fifty and fifty three. I think he'll be

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Speaker 2: right behind GoF, like maybe fifty two and a half

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Speaker 3: I think the average value is one thing. I think

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Speaker 3: for a guy like Tua. Upfront money, Yeah, that's what

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Speaker 2: GoF got a ton of money in the first three

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Speaker 3: I mean he got seventy five million dollars just to

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Speaker 3: sign the thing.

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Speaker 2: Right, largest signing bonus ever, seventy three million.

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Speaker 3: So I'm I'm thinking Tua is going, yeah, me too,

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Speaker 3: I'll take if you get money up front, give me

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Speaker 3: what you want after that, right. So, But if I'm

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Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence, I bet on me man all day. He's

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Speaker 3: got all the tools, he's got a great head coach.

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Speaker 3: Certainly took a step back last year, but that was

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Speaker 3: with a new new system. All knew this, knew that.

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Speaker 3: I just think there's two different guys, and I think

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Speaker 3: I see it the same way a lot of fans do.

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Speaker 3: Tua is in a more precarious position than Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 3: because of his health. Because of his health, and because

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Speaker 3: I mean they and and a coach, an offensive minded

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Speaker 3: He can't afford to go any places. Could you imagine

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Speaker 3: to a tongue of Iloa in Denver or someplace like that,

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Speaker 3: he get chewed up and spit out.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, but the Dolphins need him just as much.

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Speaker 2: They don't have anybody they got Mike White.

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Speaker 3: What did I say last week? And you know, I

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Speaker 3: truly believe it. Ryan Tannehill play like Tua. He's out there.

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Speaker 3: Ryan Tannehill could, in my opinion, outplay to a tongue

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Speaker 4: He's a better athlete, there's no question about that.

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Speaker 3: Got better arm at thirty, at forty nine, at forty nine,

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Speaker 3: he'll have a better arm, So I'm I do. I

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Speaker 4: Do you see this, Steve?

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Speaker 2: Regarding some tampering violations and free agency. I didn't hear

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Speaker 4: And the new league year.

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Speaker 2: Now, I know there's that two day window where you

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Speaker 4: Was talking about even prior to that.

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Speaker 3: Of these violations are found.

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Speaker 2: And after what Cousins said, it's on tape for anybody

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Speaker 4: You've basically laid out what you did. I somebody helped

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Speaker 3: Well, is Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 3: But someone would talk early to a player. I get it.

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Speaker 2: I mean it, well, I'm sure it happens a lot

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Speaker 3: I think the ramifications of it are insignificant, and I

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Speaker 3: The positions irrelevant. The position's irrelevant. Well, I know, if

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Speaker 3: Then what are we doing? Whether it's a guard or

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Speaker 4: I think the rules are pretty well laid out.

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Speaker 2: the profile of the player involved magnifies the exposure, thereby,

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Speaker 4: He was within the letter of the law.

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Speaker 3: Right, the league would have to do something. And I'm

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Speaker 3: I there's got that you know as well as I.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you just move the line back. Everybody's going to

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Speaker 4: Well, I think they're trying to levy.

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Speaker 3: Because the contracts don't run out until March fifteenth or

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Speaker 3: so you can't talk to them. Well, they're under contract

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Speaker 4: Can't even talk about them.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's right. You your GM like Brandon Bean can't

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Speaker 4: Until he's a free agent.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there is no perfect formula. But when people violate,

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Speaker 2: you got to come down on them. I think otherwise

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Speaker 4: I take an example of somebody.

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Speaker 3: I would think to me, it would a player's responsibility

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Speaker 2: The playoffs, gms that aren't in the super Bowl racing

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Speaker 3: You want to play for us next year? Right? But

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Speaker 2: Royal rumble of nflgms, Right, after you missed the playoffs,

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Speaker 3: You know that seems to me more a viable way

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Speaker 2: One other, uh one other Bills not to mention. Pro

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Speaker 2: the Bills defensive end. Rousseau has steadily improved, going from

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Speaker 2: has yet to surpass six hundred snaps in a regular season.

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Speaker 2: The next step in his development we'll be keeping up

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Speaker 2: I'm kinda I think he puts it all together this year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's one of those guys that was, Uh he's

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Speaker 3: He has steadily improved, and this could be a year

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Speaker 3: philosophy of their defense. Rousseau's in and out of the

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Speaker 3: lineup a little more than the other guys under twenty

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Speaker 3: five or most defensive linemen are on the field a

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Speaker 3: little bit more than he is. Not because he doesn't produce.

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Speaker 3: It's because the Bills rotate guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in case you were wondering, the number one player

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Speaker 2: on the list top twenty five players under age twenty five,

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Speaker 2: pinee Sewell the Detroit Lions, the offensive tackle just signed

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Speaker 2: an extension this offseason. Just turned twenty four or won't

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Speaker 2: turn twenty four until October, so good for him. That

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Speaker 2: is around the NFL, presented by Kalota Healthy, official healthcare

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Speaker 2: system of the Buffalo Bills, got a topic of discussion

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Speaker 2: for you today and it is timely with the Ota

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Speaker 2: practices beginning today, We're asking you what is the top

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Speaker 2: priority for the Bills during their off season program? Not

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Speaker 2: talking about the regular season, We're not talking about getting

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Speaker 2: to the playoffs. What is the top priority for the

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Speaker 2: Bills right now during their off season program? Eighth three,

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Speaker 2: five point fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two,

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Speaker 2: five fifty Those are the numbers to get on board.

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Speaker 2: If you don't have time to give us a call,

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Speaker 2: you can also hit us up on the tweets sheet

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Speaker 2: had one Bills live, so let us know top priority

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Speaker 2: for you do. How does this one grab you steve

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Speaker 2: top priority between now and basically the end of training camp.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a race, Like I said at the

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Speaker 3: beginning of the show, I think is a race to

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Speaker 3: get as many reps for the guys they think are

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Speaker 3: going to be on the field, get as many reps

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Speaker 3: as possible. This is a team that has a lot

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Speaker 3: of turnover, particularly on the defensive side of the ball,

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Speaker 3: and you've got to find out who are going to

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Speaker 3: be on the field, who's going to get most of

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Speaker 3: the snaps and give those guys reps. That's it. I

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Speaker 3: mean that you got to get as many reps against

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Speaker 3: as many different looks and schemes and different scenarios and

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Speaker 3: every situation you can think of. They got to get

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Speaker 3: rep after rep after rep in all of those situations

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Speaker 3: so that when the real season hits, nothing catches them

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Speaker 3: off guard. And also the off the coaching staffs on

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Speaker 3: both sides, the offense and defense, have got to find

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Speaker 3: out what their team can do really well and what

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Speaker 3: do they need to stay away from. Schematically, they've got

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Speaker 3: that's it right there in a nutshell, And.

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Speaker 2: Mine was a little more general. It's just the blend.

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Speaker 2: It's the blend of all the new players and the

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Speaker 2: youth that's currently on the roster. I decided to take

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Speaker 2: a look at it.

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Speaker 3: Steve.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I'll ask you first, all right, how many new

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Speaker 2: players do you feel are on this ninety man roster

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Speaker 2: on the offensive side of the ball, and how many

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Speaker 2: new players do you think are on the defensive start

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Speaker 2: of the ball? No, from last year at this time

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Speaker 2: to this year, how many new players would you guess

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Speaker 2: make up the offensive side of the ball, and how

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Speaker 2: many new players make up the defensive side of the ball,

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Speaker 2: because the rot the roster is pretty much even on

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Speaker 2: each side.

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Speaker 3: Probably, I'll say probably. Let's see if there's twenty two offense,

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Speaker 3: twenty two defense and then or twenty I would be

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Speaker 3: twenty five twenty five. I would say eight on the

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Speaker 3: offensive side.

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Speaker 4: Hold on, I'm gonna tell you think of the entire roster.

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Speaker 3: Right right, fifty three, No, ninety ninety Oh gosh, I'll

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Speaker 3: tell you it's more than eight. Yeah, I was gonna

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Speaker 3: say eight offensively on the twenty on the fifty three

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Speaker 3: man on the ninety man roster. How many new players

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Speaker 3: I would say sixty total? Or you're all told, yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's it's less than that, is it?

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Speaker 2: The crazy thing is it's even twenty new players on offense,

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Speaker 2: twenty new players on defense, and two new on special

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Speaker 2: teams right now, because you've got an extra.

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Speaker 4: Couple of punters.

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Speaker 2: Fifty two forty two twenty twenty and two, So forty

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Speaker 2: two out of ninety forty six point six percent of

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Speaker 2: the roster.

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Speaker 3: Is really from last season. Yeah, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: Now that's the offseason roster.

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Speaker 2: That number will come down because you know, you've got

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Speaker 2: a slew of undrafted rookies every year. Not all of

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Speaker 2: them are going to make the fifty three years.

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Speaker 3: Think it's going to be more than that because of

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's just so many guys that aren't here

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Speaker 3: and the guys that behind them.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is a spike in turnover from last year.

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Speaker 2: Usually they're around thirty thirty two percent turnover right now,

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Speaker 2: it's forty six point six percent.

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Speaker 4: I mean it's almost it's about a fifteen percent.

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Speaker 3: Some of it is because you.

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Speaker 4: Know, well the salary cap shedding that you have to.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and they're also going to be who are actually

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Speaker 3: going to be on the field. This isn't like the

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Speaker 3: third linebacker in the That's why.

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Speaker 2: That's why for me, it's about the blend. It's the

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Speaker 2: blend right now, that's the top priority here in the

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Speaker 2: offseason because to your point, you're gonna have younger players

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Speaker 2: on the field or new veterans on the field, and

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Speaker 2: they all not only have to learn this scheme because

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Speaker 2: they haven't been immersed in it for the last three

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Speaker 2: or four years, they also have to learn how to

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Speaker 2: play off those guys they haven't played with before either.

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Speaker 2: So it's new scheme, new team. Like that's a double

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Speaker 2: edged sword that you gotta deal with.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because one of the things about a lot of

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Speaker 3: we had.

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Speaker 2: Coaching here last week, what did he say, You got

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Speaker 2: to teach and reteach and reteach and reteach, and.

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Speaker 4: You got to do it.

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Speaker 2: They got to do it this year, maybe more than

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Speaker 2: they ever had since maybe twenty seventeen coming in the door.

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Speaker 3: Here's a lot about what goes into playing professional football,

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Speaker 3: and football at any level is knowing the guys around you.

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Speaker 3: Because you know, you've got this defense you're playing, or

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Speaker 3: this offense you're playing, this play and you're going out.

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Speaker 3: You you understand what your job is, of course, but then

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Speaker 3: you also got to know what other players are gonna do,

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Speaker 3: and because the defense is always trying to do something

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Speaker 3: that you don't know about. They're trying to give you

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Speaker 3: a look you can't beat, or something that you don't expect,

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Speaker 3: and how every player reacts in that unexpected moment. Really

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Speaker 3: good teams they know what each other are gonna do.

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Speaker 3: It's you have a mental connection and an understanding of

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Speaker 3: I know what he's thinking, I know what he's gonna do,

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Speaker 3: so I'm gonna do this.

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Speaker 4: And the call that's nonverbal, nonverbal.

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Speaker 3: Yes you've seen it on film, you've talked about and

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Speaker 3: you'll say I was thinking this, and he goes and

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Speaker 3: the coach will say, listen if he does that, and

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Speaker 3: you do this, we got to have this, you know,

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Speaker 3: we got to have this on the back end and

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Speaker 3: on the other side. And you talk through every new

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Speaker 3: ran through it and they did that unexpected thing. And

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Speaker 3: you do that, and then you go back out and

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Speaker 3: you run it again and you think, okay, there it is.

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Speaker 3: See how we're doing that, you guys, And then I

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Speaker 3: mean it just goes. It's never ending, the amount of

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Speaker 3: permittent because then you do that and then there's a

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Speaker 3: there's a different guy outside. Now he does a little

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Speaker 3: differently than the guy you've been going over it with.

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Speaker 3: So it's just never ending a race to know and

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Speaker 3: understand all the guys that are around you. That's why

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Speaker 3: a good football team is so has such an amount

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Speaker 3: of cohesion. They they go through it together and they

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Speaker 3: understand each other, and they think they got to talk

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Speaker 3: to each other. So you get to know guys, their personalities,

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Speaker 3: what they think is important, and so it's just it's

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Speaker 3: just it's always this scratching clawing for deeper and deeper

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Speaker 3: understanding of your offense. If you're placing it where you

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Speaker 3: should be, where they're going to be, and the quarterback

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Speaker 3: is sitting there watching all of it, figuring it out.

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Speaker 3: It's it's a deep dive into social experimentation. I mean

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Speaker 3: you really, I mean you got smart guys, you got

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Speaker 3: dumb guys. You got to work around all of it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I mean some guys smart. Sometimes smart guys

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Speaker 3: are just as big a problem, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 3: because they create their own you know what I mean,

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Speaker 3: Because they think too much. They think too much, and

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Speaker 3: they're trying to they're trying to cover for a guy

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Speaker 3: over here they don't need to cover for. And so

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Speaker 3: now they're like, what are you doing? He says, well,

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Speaker 3: I was thinking.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: It's it's absolutely mind bending, the amount of repetitions you

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Speaker 3: got to get and That's why I think this this

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Speaker 3: time of year is really important because when you're young

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Speaker 3: in an offense, they give it to you in the

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Speaker 3: nuts and bolts and then they put the bells and

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Speaker 3: whistles on later.

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Speaker 2: What is the top priority for the Bills during their

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Speaker 2: off season program? You let us know at eighth three

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Speaker 2: zero five fifty one eight eight eighty five fifty two

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Speaker 2: five fifty the number to get on board. It's figuring

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Speaker 2: out who the starter is, strong safety, maybe it's something else.

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Speaker 2: Whatever you have that you believe to be the top

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Speaker 2: priority for the Bills in their off season program.

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Speaker 4: Let us know.

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Speaker 2: Open lines for you, and we're taking your phone calls.

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Speaker 2: Next here on One Bills Live, presented by Colid of Health,

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Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, here we are One

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live on a Monday, the start of OTA practice

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Speaker 2: sessions for the Bills, the first of ten. Today media

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Speaker 2: will get a look at them. Tomorrow we will be

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Speaker 2: on the sidelines taking in the view as well. And

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Speaker 2: that's why we thought it pertinent to ask you, what

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Speaker 2: do you think the top priority is for the Bills

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Speaker 2: during this off season program?

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Speaker 3: What is job number one?

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Speaker 2: Knowing the vast turnover this roster has experienced this offseason,

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Speaker 2: which has been far greater than what we've seen in

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Speaker 2: recent seasons.

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Speaker 4: Eight oh three, five fifteen. The number to get on

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Speaker 4: board one eight eight, eight, five fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 2: And we've got open lines for you there. You can

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Speaker 2: also hit us up on the tweets sheet at one

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Speaker 2: Bills Live. But we go to the phones here and

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Speaker 2: we lead off with Gary down in Louisiana.

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Speaker 4: What's up?

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Speaker 2: Gary, Hey, guys, y' all doing doing well.

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Speaker 3: I'm good.

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Speaker 6: I think what you guys said earlier the last segment

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Speaker 6: about getting everybody you know, playing more together, you know,

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Speaker 6: get the cohesion. But really, I think this year it's

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Speaker 6: more about the rookies because I think we're going to

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Speaker 6: play a couple and beginning season I can see two

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Speaker 6: or three of them going, you know, starting playing heavy,

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Speaker 6: you know, rotation a lot, just beginning season because we're

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Speaker 6: gonna need them to last. Couple of years. We've had

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Speaker 6: a lot of veterans this year, we're gonna have a

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Speaker 6: lot of rookies, so I think getting them ready for

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Speaker 6: the season is probably number one in my eyes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I like that, and I think you're right, Gary.

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Speaker 2: I think it is very likely that younger players will

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Speaker 2: have more prominent roles sooner than we have seen in

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Speaker 2: recent years.

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Speaker 3: It'll be interesting to see if Cole Bishop can come

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Speaker 3: in and compete with a guy a veteran like Taylor

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Speaker 3: rapt or Mike Edwards. You know, can Cole Bishop get

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Speaker 3: on the field. Dwayne Carter? I don't think there's any

657
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:15,399
Speaker 3: question he's gonna be in the rotation anyway, because they

658
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 3: play all their defensive linemen Kean. Dude's got to get

659
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 3: on the field, no question about it.

660
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 2: Now.

661
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 3: Ray Davis kind of the same thing as as Dwayne Carter.

662
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 3: Ray Davis is gonna be in the rotation as a

663
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 3: running back, right. I mean, so He've got a couple

664
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 3: of spots there on the defensive end, defensive tackle and

665
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 3: the running back spot where they're going to rotate through.

666
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 3: Even if they were a home run like, they're still

667
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 3: gonna they're still gonna rotate through. So it's not like

668
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 3: you've got to go out there and play well like

669
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 3: Cole Bishop would. Cole Bishop will play seventy five snaps

670
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 3: in the game of a of one hundred and fifty snaps.

671
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 3: He's gonna play all the defensive snaps if he's if

672
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:58,280
Speaker 3: he's that guy. Not so with Greg Russo or Dwayne Carter,

673
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 3: you know, Ray Davis, guys like that. So it's yes,

674
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 3: there is a chance that two or three, maybe as

675
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 3: many as four are gonna see significant, significant snaps on

676
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 3: their side of the ball. You would think Keon cole

677
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,439
Speaker 3: Keon Coleman is going to be on the field. I mean, right,

678
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 3: that's I think that's the one. Cole Bishop maybe maybe

679
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 3: depending on what they see in Taylor rap. Mike Edwards

680
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 3: is gonna be on the field. He's not going anywhere.

681
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 3: And Dwayne Carter and Ray Davis or what we said.

682
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and who knows what happens at center, that's right.

683
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 2: I mean Connor McGovern is the plan right now, but

684
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 2: he hasn't played their meaningful snaps in a regular season game.

685
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 2: It's like he's got one hundred career snaps at center

686
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:52,760
Speaker 2: in his pro career.

687
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Speaker 3: I think a guy like Cedric Van pran Granger, I

688
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 3: think he's got the chops to do it. I mean

689
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 3: he's you know, he's six four three ten, he's big enough.

690
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna come in and it's gonna be

691
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 3: about Van Pran Granger's ability to just get it under

692
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 3: his belt. Mentally, I think he's exactly. I mean, he

693
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 3: has proven at George.

694
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:15,760
Speaker 4: He was a three year starter.

695
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 3: He started for two national championship teams and played like

696
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 3: fifteen games a year.

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00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 2: Not to mention, he's going against guys in practice like

698
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 2: Jordan Davis and Jalen Carter.

699
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he's been there, done that, right, that's not

700
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 3: gonna be It's not gonna be too big for him.

701
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,959
Speaker 3: So if he can come in and get it under

702
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 3: his belt, you know, mcconor mcgovernent goes right back to

703
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 3: left guard and you just keep on, keep on keeping on.

704
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 3: And Van Prant Granger, you know, is who you think

705
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 3: he is. To put it in the terms of Dennis Green.

706
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 3: So we'll see that. I think that might be they

707
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 3: think about it. If you can get that guy where

708
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 3: they got him and plug in play. You got McGovern

709
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 3: and Cybo Yeah Torrance, yeah, o, Cyrus Torrance. You got

710
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 3: a second year player, a first year center, and a

711
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 3: guy who just is in the like right in the

712
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 3: thick of prime of his career. Then you got the

713
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 3: two tackles. Dude, that's you could do a lot worse

714
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 3: than you could do a lot worse. Van Prank Granger

715
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 3: could be the key to this whole success of this

716
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 3: whole draft class, you know, because of just where you

717
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 3: got him and his chops and yeah, what he could be.

718
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones at eight oh three

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00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,240
Speaker 2: to five point fifty one eight eight eight five fifty

720
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 2: two five fifty open line for you there. What is

721
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 2: the top priority for the Bills during their offseason program?

722
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 2: When you go to Andy on a sale next?

723
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 4: What's up Andy?

724
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 5: Hey, fellows, thanks for taking my call. I think we

725
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 5: have to worry about Bernard and Milano staying healthy. If

726
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 5: we get to the playoffs, we have to have them both.

727
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 5: So I think the key in the offseason is to

728
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 5: come up with someone well there it's Williams or whoever,

729
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 5: who is really able to play some snaps and give

730
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 5: these guys a rust during some of these games, you

731
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 5: know they rotate the defensive line. I think they have

732
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 5: to rotate those guys. They can't expose Milano to seventeen

733
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 5: games of getting shot at. So that's what I think

734
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 5: the number one priority is, because if they're both playing,

735
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 5: we have a pretty good defense. If they're not, both playing.

736
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 5: I you know, we had things to worry about.

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00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can think about it. If if Milano can't

738
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 3: get back on the field right away, you I mean,

739
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 3: you've already switched out both safeties lost to Davious White.

740
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 3: I mean you're I mean, you're looking at all the

741
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,919
Speaker 3: defensive line that are going to be rinsed through. You're

742
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 3: looking at a bunch of new paces without.

743
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 4: I don't think you want to change linebacker.

744
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 2: It's your one constant right now, right you want to

745
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 2: be rote taking guys in and out.

746
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 3: You that would just be one.

747
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 2: And it's and face to mention, Bernard is running your defense.

748
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 2: He's not coming off the field.

749
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 3: Bernard's not coming off the field ever. And Milano, if

750
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 3: he's out there, he's if he's healthy, he's going to

751
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 3: be out there. But if Milano's not out there and

752
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 3: Bernard's not out there, you're top. You're chopping the top

753
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 3: right off the pyramid of the most productive and important

754
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 3: players on the team on the defensive side of the ball.

755
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 2: All pro linebacker in your defensive cap yeah, all intensive purpose.

756
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 3: And they're right in the middle of it all. And

757
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 3: you take those two guys off the field.

758
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 2: Now, I will say this, Dorian Williams in the second

759
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 2: half of the season compared to the first half of

760
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 2: the season when he got on the field, I noticed

761
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 2: him more.

762
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 4: He made an impact.

763
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 2: He comes with a head of steam and labels people

764
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 2: like there is zero hesitation, seaball whack ball. I mean,

765
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 2: that's how Dorian Williams plays. And now that he does

766
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 2: have a firm grasp of this defensive system, I think

767
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 2: that's your first guy off the bench this year.

768
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:05,760
Speaker 4: Perhaps at either position.

769
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 2: You have Bailon Spector, who has proven himself capable at

770
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 2: the mic linebacker position, maybe not quite as athletic as

771
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 2: the two starters, but more than capable. And then you

772
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 2: drafted at a Fuan Yulafotio, who was a ninety tackle

773
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 2: player for a National Championship finalist, and I think is

774
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 2: ahead of the curve in terms of.

775
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 4: Football IQ gays.

776
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know they have I like their options. Granted

777
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 2: there is inexperience.

778
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:43,879
Speaker 3: Shows a little experience, but Dorian Williams, he flashed last

779
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,720
Speaker 3: year and started flashing more and more the more reps

780
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 3: he got.

781
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then they have some other vets that are

782
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 2: in the mix here like Deon Jones and Nicholas Moro

783
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 2: who came over from Philly. So there are options granted

784
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 2: new to the scene.

785
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 4: So in this.

786
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 2: Defense largely unproven, but your top four are essentially the

787
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 2: two starters along with Specter, you know, and Williams for now.

788
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 2: And if someone's able to move up the depth chart

789
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 2: ahead of one of those guys, well, okay, great now

790
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 2: it just makes you deeper.

791
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 3: I think. Also, you've got to remember, you know, they

792
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 3: got guys like Nick Morrow on this on this roster, Yeah,

793
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 3: Moro and Jones I mentioned, and yeah, they've got some

794
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 3: veteran free agency. It's not gonna be too big for them.

795
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 3: Those guys are gonna be the steadying influence out there.

796
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 3: They're gonna be the A Finger quotes A. J. Klein

797
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 3: of this defense. They're gonna be ready to go and

798
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 3: nothing's gonna They're gonna have a handle on what needs

799
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,240
Speaker 3: to happen. They're gonna know the defense, they're gonna understand

800
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 3: the schemes, and they're not gonna get caught looking the

801
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 3: wrong way like a young linebacker would. So there's gonna

802
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,919
Speaker 3: be some guys in the room with some real experience

803
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 3: to help these young athletes, you know, get a handle

804
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 3: further handle on it. But Dorian Williams and Bernard and Milano.

805
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 3: I mean, those guys are you can chisel them in

806
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 3: the stone because they're gonna be there.

807
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 2: You tell us what is the top priority for the

808
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 2: Bills during this offseason program. What has to get done

809
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 2: absolutely positively by the time they're coming out of training camp.

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Speaker 4: You let us know at eight h three.

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Speaker 2: Oh five fifty one eight eight five fifty two, five

812
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Speaker 2: point fifty number to get on board. Got open lines

813
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 2: for you, and we're taking more of your phone calls

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00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 2: from now till the end of the show. Here on

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Speaker 2: One Bill's Live, presented by Colid of Health, It's Buffalo

816
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 2: Bills Radio. All right back here on One Bill's Live

817
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 2: on a Monday, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you talking

818
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 2: about top priority in the off season program for the Bills.

819
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 4: When a lot of players turnover.

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00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,720
Speaker 2: I was kind of the opinion, and it's the blend

821
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 2: that has to get accomplished between now and the end

822
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 2: of training camp. Steve's in the same general vicinity of

823
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 2: that sentiment. You can let us know what you think.

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00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 2: Three zero five fifty one eighty eight eight five fifty

825
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 2: two five fifty the number to get on board open

826
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 2: lines for you. Wanted to bring this up though we

827
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,439
Speaker 2: know that Keon Coleman, along with a host of other

828
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 2: high draft choices, were out at the NFL Rookie Premiere.

829
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 2: This is basically a weekend where they do an innumerable

830
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 2: amount of photo shoots in stadium in a studio in uniform,

831
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 2: full pads, and it's all for a lot of their

832
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 2: business partners, like the card companies and stuff like that,

833
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 2: so they can generate rookie cards and do a whole

834
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 2: bunch of things with advertisers and sponsors. And Keon Coleman

835
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 2: was the Bills representative who was out there, and what

836
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 2: we noticed, or what somebody noticed, was that he was

837
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 2: wearing these beaded bracelets. And come to find out that

838
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,479
Speaker 2: these beaded bracelets were sent to him by a young

839
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 2: Bills fan who who wanted to wish Keon good luck

840
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 2: in his rookie season. He said he makes it for friends,

841
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 2: he wanted to make one for him, and so Keon

842
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 2: puts it on for the foot for the Rookie Premiere

843
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:09,800
Speaker 2: photo shoot.

844
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 4: What a guy made that kid's day for sure.

845
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I think it's kind of cool. Most bills

846
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 3: fans think, well, golly, that's kind of neat because they.

847
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 4: Because he didn't have to do that.

848
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, he didn't have to do it, and and that

849
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 3: stuff that everybody since it does make it to these

850
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 3: guys at some point, you know, and uh, certainly Keon

851
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 3: he didn't have to wear those in this photo shoot.

852
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 3: But I you know, you see the little pictures of

853
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 3: the bracelets, they're yeah, they're nice. We've seen them. The

854
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 3: little commemorative beads and you can spell stuff out in

855
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 3: him and they spelled bills with red, white and blue.

856
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 3: And it's an awesome little gift the guy sent Keon,

857
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 3: and Kean appreciated it. It's good stuff.

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00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 4: You.

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00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 3: Uh.

860
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 4: You also saw your boy andre.

861
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,240
Speaker 3: I did with the puffy with a yellow jacket jacket.

862
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:59,280
Speaker 3: Awesome move. Dre showed up with Keon Carpenter's puffy jacket

863
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 3: on the yellow one. Kenk Coleman his Uh, he just

864
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 3: showed up and had the same jacket, the same jacket.

865
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

866
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 2: Keon War when he came up here for his introductory

867
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 2: press conference, also brought him some chocolate chip cookies.

868
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 3: So good stuff.

869
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the rookie premierees out in La Andrea

870
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 2: lives out that way, so it was an easy pop in.

871
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 4: So kind of neat. You know. The rookie reached out

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00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 4: to Andre shortly after.

873
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 2: The draft and Dre returned the favor there and showed

874
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 2: up in surprise visit. So that was kind of a

875
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 2: cool weekend for him. Then he has to fly across

876
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 2: country get back here for Monday.

877
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 3: OTAs today, Yeah, crimea River. He's all right, he's twenty.

878
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, come on, I think did his birthdays just happen?

879
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 2: I think his birthday's coming up. If it might have

880
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 2: happened already, I think it might have happened over the weekend.

881
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 2: Now they think about it. Let me see what it is.

882
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 2: I want to say it's the eighteenth, but I'm not sure.

883
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 2: But he just turned twenty May seventeenth. Yeah, so his

884
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 2: last Friday. He's twenty one now.

885
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,959
Speaker 3: One is good for him.

886
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 2: Now twenty one years of age, so good for Keon.

887
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 2: But I thought that was neat. That's kind of a

888
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 2: cool deal when hey made that little kid's day. Now

889
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 2: he's got a number one fan, it's wearing his stuff.

890
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 4: I don't know. I just thought that was neat.

891
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 3: That's very neat.

892
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:25,439
Speaker 2: We're still talking to you obviously about off season priority

893
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 2: for the Bills, as they've got a lot to pull

894
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 2: together here, and the other part of this equation that

895
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 2: we're not even talking about yet, Steve, You know, we're

896
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 2: talking about all the newness of the players. Let's not

897
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 2: forget we've got a full time offensive coordinator now in

898
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 2: Joe Brady, who was interim for the last nine games

899
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 2: of the season, and you've got a new defensive coordinator

900
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 2: Bobby Babbage, who whether or not he has play calling

901
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 2: duties is yet to be determined, and we'll probably run

902
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 2: through the balance of the preseason before coach McDermott comes

903
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 2: down on a final decision. But there's an element of

904
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 2: change there too that has to be incorporated it into

905
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 2: this mix as well, because even if the system is

906
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 2: largely the same on defense, which I think we can

907
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 2: agree it probably will be, there's still a different guy

908
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 2: potentially calling it. That's an adjustment. And then on offense,

909
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 2: the one hundred million dollar question is is what we

910
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 2: saw from Joe Brady over the last nine games in

911
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 2: the playoff last season a fair indication of what we're

912
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 2: going to get going forward, or was he simply triaging

913
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 2: a messy situation with a system he largely inherited it.

914
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 3: He totally inherited, you know.

915
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 2: I mean he had a chance to incorporate maybe a

916
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 2: few things here and there over those last nine weeks

917
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 2: of the regular season and then the postseason.

918
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 4: How much did he change?

919
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 3: Let's face it, when Brian Dabole left two years ago

920
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 3: or two two and a half years ago, what I

921
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 3: can't remember after the twenty one season that Ken Dorsey

922
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 3: took over that offense, but he did it in an offseason,

923
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 3: He had a full off season. And of course by

924
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 3: the time he lasted a full season and a half

925
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,760
Speaker 3: with the offense and it started to deteriorate, and and

926
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,439
Speaker 3: you had Sean McDermott pulled the plug and said, listen,

927
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 3: we can't keep on keeping on and went to Joe Brady. Now,

928
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 3: I'm I'm kind of with you, Brownie. There is a

929
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 3: lot going on here with two new coordinators, some new

930
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 3: position coaches. But I'll say this. We asked Sean McDermott

931
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 3: on this show last week, like you know how that's going,

932
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 3: and he was you could tell what he would tell.

933
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 3: He was genuine. He was like, yeah, I've been really impressed.

934
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 3: I like where it's at because you know, here's if

935
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 3: you're the coordinator, and particularly on the defensive side, where's

936
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 3: Bobby Babbage. Bob's installing all these defenses and talking to

937
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 3: his players and saying we want you here and here

938
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 3: and here and here and here and here. Think about

939
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 3: how that is when you may be the the head

940
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 3: coaches is like right there over your shoulder, knows what

941
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 3: you're coaching, and he's he got his job because he

942
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 3: did your job better than you're probably thinking you can

943
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 3: do it right, I mean, you gotta. So there's some

944
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 3: pressure there. There's also a safety net there and and

945
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 3: a guy you can go to say, coach, what about this?

946
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 3: I want to you know, a sounding board because at

947
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 3: a certain level both of them could. But at the

948
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 3: highest level, Sean McDermott is one of those guys. Young

949
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 3: coaches come up to him say hey, coach, how did

950
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 3: you handle this? You know, so, you know, there's a

951
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 3: lot going on, And when we asked McDermott about it

952
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 3: last week on the show, he was like, no, you

953
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 3: could tell. He was kind of like, you know, he

954
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 3: was kind of nodding with his yeah, yeah, no, no,

955
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 3: we're doing good. I love that where they're at. I

956
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 3: like how they're handling things. I like the collaboration. And

957
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 3: he's always been one for that, for that word finger

958
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 3: quotes collaboration. It's long gone are the days in football

959
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:56,839
Speaker 3: where one guy says how it's going to be for everybody.

960
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 3: Now it's it's like that one guy at the top

961
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 3: is elevating all his entire staff to contribute. They all

962
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 3: got to have a voice, they all got to be heard,

963
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 3: and they all got to hate like because because that's

964
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 3: when you get really good. You want you want guys

965
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 3: from three four defensive backgrounds. For three defensive backgrounds, you

966
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 3: want former defensive backs. You want guys who have been

967
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,439
Speaker 3: coaches their whole career. You want former players. You want

968
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 3: all these guys from different you want old guys, you

969
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 3: want young guys. You want all these different voices from

970
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,280
Speaker 3: different points of view, because then you elevate everybody because

971
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 3: of the fresh ideas and the different perspectives they bring.

972
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 3: And McDermott's big about that and it really made a

973
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:37,439
Speaker 3: difference for this club on both sides of the ball.

974
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,879
Speaker 3: I think. So that's it was nice to hear him

975
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,760
Speaker 3: say that because you could tell the kind of the

976
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 3: genuine place he was coming from, and we asked him,

977
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 3: you know, how's it going. He's like, yeah, you know,

978
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,240
Speaker 3: he was. Oh, you can tell he was pumped.

979
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 4: We have to step aside here for a break.

980
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 2: But when we come back more on this discussion, what's

981
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 2: the top priority for the Bills during the off season program?

982
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 2: You let us know it eight three eight eight eight

983
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 2: five fifty two five point fifty. And also we'll get

984
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 2: into a little discussion on a personnel grouping that could

985
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 2: see more dedicated usage not only by the Bills, but

986
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 2: by a handful of other teams as well. We'll explain

987
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 2: when we return here on One Bill's Live presented by

988
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 2: Colida Health.

989
00:51:18,200 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 7: It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

990
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 1: The One Bills Live presented by Called Lighta Health.

991
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 2: All right, welcome into our number two on a Monday,

992
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 2: Chris Brown stage to ask you with you One Bill's Live.

993
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 4: Is your program a choice?

994
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 2: Thanks for making it yours And we are discussing with

995
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:22,359
Speaker 2: OTAs underway today and basically running through June seventh, not

996
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 2: consecutive days. There's only ten total practices over the next

997
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:29,919
Speaker 2: couple of weeks, but there are things to get accomplished here,

998
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 2: especially with the turnover that the roster has experienced this

999
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 2: offseason in far greater measure than previous off season. So

1000
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 2: with that in mind, we're asking what is the top

1001
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 2: priority for the Bills during this offseason program? What is

1002
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,399
Speaker 2: priority number one that they have to get accomplished between

1003
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 2: now and the end of training camp.

1004
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 3: These ten practices are immensely important, particularly in today's NFL,

1005
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 3: because you can run it exactly like you run a

1006
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 3: real practice at training camp, and nobody ever tackles or

1007
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,399
Speaker 3: anything at training camp either because that's not allowed either.

1008
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 3: And there's there's a whole week of run up to

1009
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 3: with out. If you remember, there's a couple of days

1010
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:04,760
Speaker 3: I don't know how many days it is without pads

1011
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 3: at training camp before four or five, Yeah, before they

1012
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 3: ramp up and golden pads even at training camp. So

1013
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 3: these practices are as important as spring football in college.

1014
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 3: I mean, they're getting a lot done and that's the object.

1015
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 3: Twenty one teams are doing this this week now the

1016
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 3: Bills are one of them.

1017
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 2: But let's hop over to the tweet sheet, which is

1018
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,800
Speaker 2: brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment

1019
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 2: moving company of the Buffalo bills. Jack leads us off

1020
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 2: with the following developing consistency and coming together so they

1021
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 2: can hit the ground running in July at Fisher no

1022
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 2: days off on offense. They need to design and master

1023
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 2: the full Joe Brady system. I expect the d despite

1024
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 2: new starters and a new DC, to still perform at

1025
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 2: a high level with mcdermot's defense. Yeah, I mean we

1026
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 2: touched on this last hour. There's a coordinator element here

1027
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 2: in addition to all the new players that are on

1028
00:53:56,440 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 2: the roster, and those coordinators have to blend with the

1029
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 2: new players on the roster too. They've got to discover

1030
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 2: what is this guy's strengths, What does he do well?

1031
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 2: What should we avoid play calling wise with him? Should

1032
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 2: he be on the field for this kind of a

1033
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 2: play or is he not going to help us there?

1034
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 2: You gotta find fits for what you're calling.

1035
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 3: I'll say this though. One of the things we learned

1036
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,399
Speaker 3: very early on about Sean McDermott all the way back

1037
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 3: in twenty seventeen was his ability to bring guys together

1038
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 3: and make a team out of it. I mean, he

1039
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 3: took that drought team and went straight to the playoffs

1040
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 3: after trading away a couple of key players he's got

1041
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:32,919
Speaker 3: to I think as good as as well as any

1042
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 3: coach in the NFL has the ability to put his

1043
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 3: thumb on the pulse and find out some tweaks that

1044
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 3: need to be made. And I'm sure too as difficult

1045
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 3: as it was for both Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott.

1046
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 3: McDermott was in with Brandon Bean when they said listen,

1047
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 3: Mitch and Tredavius and these guy, I mean we got

1048
00:54:55,239 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 3: to go pour your hide. He knew what he was

1049
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 3: doing and how tough it was going to be to

1050
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 3: overcome those losses. By the same token, I think that's

1051
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 3: where he's at his best is this time of year,

1052
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 3: getting these guys together, come together and elevate them and

1053
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 3: get them to the point where they can go out

1054
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 3: and play as a group. I think that's one of

1055
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,240
Speaker 3: the things he has done really well in his tenure.

1056
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 3: So we'll see if he continues to do that. And

1057
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 3: he can do it with this addition of the bills

1058
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:26,879
Speaker 3: like he did with that twenty seventeen team and beyond.

1059
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 2: Adam On the tweets, she says, establishing trust with the

1060
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 2: new offensive weapons and getting the defensive replacements up to

1061
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 2: speed quickly, you know, as much as they've got to

1062
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 2: develop trust, meaning I mean the number one thing coaches

1063
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 2: want to be able to do is trust you on

1064
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 2: the field. So while I think this comment points to

1065
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 2: the coordinators getting or maybe the player better way to

1066
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:50,720
Speaker 2: say it is players earning the trust of their coaches

1067
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 2: to be on the field in critical situations. I also

1068
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 2: think there's an element of Josh here too, because, as

1069
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 2: we've mentioned more than once on this show, in the

1070
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 2: receiver room, Khalil Shakiir is the only one that's caught

1071
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:06,280
Speaker 2: a pass from Josh Allen in the regular season talking

1072
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 2: receivers only everybody else has not done that in the

1073
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:12,839
Speaker 2: regular season with Josh Allen in this offense. So there

1074
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 2: is a level of trust that those receivers must convince

1075
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 2: Josh he can have in them when they step out

1076
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 2: on the field. Like, hey, it's third night, this coverage

1077
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 2: is air tight. But I know my guy's gonna fight

1078
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 2: for that. I'm gonna give him a chance.

1079
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it all works hand in hand as well. I mean,

1080
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 3: Joe Brady's gonna he'll dial up some plays and when

1081
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 3: Josh Good looks out there, you know, if a guy

1082
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 3: can get separation and come out of the break fast.

1083
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 3: It's gonna feel safe for Josh to throw it there,

1084
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 3: and the receiver is gonna feel open. He's gonna, you know,

1085
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,359
Speaker 3: it's gonna be easier to catch. He's gonna all gonna

1086
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 3: be working. So the coordinator can help him out to

1087
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,720
Speaker 3: a certain extent. But sooner or later guys are gonna

1088
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 3: have to shake loose on their own and not worry.

1089
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 3: You know that, you know one of the defenders is

1090
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:05,240
Speaker 3: on them, right, So everybody has there's so many moving

1091
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 3: parts to a football team, from the coordinator to the quarterback,

1092
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 3: to the receivers, to the scheme to the protection and

1093
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 3: it all has to work in concert. And that's a

1094
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 3: lot of moving parts to worry about. And let's face it,

1095
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 3: at this time of year, I guess this is where

1096
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 3: we're at. You worry about all of them, are as

1097
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 3: certain parts of that you don't worry about it. The

1098
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 3: chromer's gonna have the old line click and they're gonna

1099
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 3: be fine. Josh is gonna have time to throw this,

1100
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 3: but you know there's gonna be certain parts where we

1101
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 3: don't have to worry about it. And certainly offensively, you

1102
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 3: got less of those than you do defensively this year.

1103
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 3: But we're not there.

1104
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,439
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, the whole back half of the receiver roster.

1105
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 2: Just to the point I was discussing, I mean, Josh

1106
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 2: has to come to a point where he understands Curtis

1107
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 2: Samuel's body language and is it consistent on every single

1108
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 2: route where he can read it effectively and feel confident that, okay,

1109
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 2: based on that body language he's breaking out, I'm gonna

1110
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 2: hit him, I'm throwing it now, and that he's right,

1111
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 2: and that Samuel thinks the same way. Mac Collins when

1112
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 2: he's covered, does his height in verticality still make him

1113
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 2: an open receiver for Josh to give him a chance?

1114
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 2: How is he doing in contested situations? Same for Keon

1115
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 2: Coleman when he's not open, is he still open because

1116
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 2: he can out jump whoever's guarding him? Like these are

1117
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 2: the things they have to find out through reps on

1118
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,439
Speaker 2: the field, through the course of the spring, and that's

1119
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 2: gonna go a long way in determining the pecking order

1120
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 2: at the receiver position. Pretty much after Coleman, Samuel and Shakir,

1121
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 2: everybody else is battling for a spot as far as

1122
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 2: I'm concerned.

1123
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's just in the receiver room. Certainly, Kinkaid

1124
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,479
Speaker 3: and Knox are gonna be kind of given. Cook's gonna

1125
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 3: be a given. Even Ray Davis is going to be

1126
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 3: a given, I think at some point. But you know,

1127
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 3: this is this is a team where that it's all

1128
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 3: you all got to you gotta feel good about all

1129
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 3: of it all at the same time. And that's a

1130
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 3: hard place to get to, and it takes time. Takes time.

1131
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 2: It's it's not nothing. I mean, I still remember when

1132
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 2: Beasley came in here and Brown came in here as

1133
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 2: free agent signings for the receiving Corps, and I remember

1134
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 2: Josh talking about it like, hey, we've got to establish

1135
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 2: a level of on field chemistry where I can feel

1136
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 2: confident with the decisions that I'm making because I know

1137
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 2: either A how this guy is going to run his

1138
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 2: route or B when I tell him to run it

1139
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 2: this way to benefit me and my anticipatory skills, that

1140
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 2: he follows my instructions and does it. He doesn't freelance,

1141
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 2: because freelancing leads to an interception.

1142
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:40,439
Speaker 3: That is exactly and I'll say this too, that's that's

1143
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 3: exactly the mindset of a quarterback too. They're all like,

1144
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 3: that doesn't all throw it to you, But you got

1145
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 3: to show me where I'm supposed to throw it, and

1146
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 3: you gotta be ready for it now, you got to.

1147
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 3: I gotta trust what you're gonna do. Yeah, quarterbacks don't

1148
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 3: like to throw interceptions. No matter what some of the

1149
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 3: talking heads to you about Josh Allen, he's not trying

1150
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 3: to throw interceptions, and they don't like it. And if

1151
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 3: you contribute to an interception in any way, shape or form,

1152
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 3: you're gonna hear about it one way or another.

1153
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 4: And that's what Josh on the tweets sheet says.

1154
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 2: Top priority for the Bills in the offseason program Josh

1155
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 2: building a rapport in continuity with his new weapons. We

1156
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 2: kind of discussed that, so we'll move on to the

1157
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 2: next one. Steven says the focus should be with Josh

1158
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 2: and his new receivers because only one person got a

1159
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 2: pass from Josh, and that's your heir. You gotta build

1160
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 2: that chemistry. Yes, yeah, I think that's the prevailing opinion.

1161
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:35,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's where we're at today.

1162
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 2: That's kind of funny, though, how the offense grabs all

1163
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 2: of the focus when there is going to be more

1164
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 2: change on the defensive side of the ball by leaps

1165
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 2: and bounds.

1166
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, you got two terms of who's on the field.

1167
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 3: You got two significant guys on offense. You've got like

1168
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 3: seven significant guys on defense. I mean that are changing

1169
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 3: out right.

1170
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:57,919
Speaker 2: And you know, I think Benford is probably the only

1171
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 2: locket corner because I think Douglas is going to get

1172
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 2: pushed by oh and Aron Johnson's a lock here ter

1173
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 2: slot corner, you know, and then.

1174
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 4: It's Bernard and Milano those are a lock.

1175
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 3: I think Mike Edwards is a lock probably playing the

1176
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 3: free safety right. Yeah, so you know, but then you've

1177
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 3: got you got Vaughn, you got Greg Russauanessa, Epanessa, Da Kuon,

1178
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 3: you know all those guys, you know, Oliver ed Oliver. Okay,

1179
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 3: so you got those guys as well. But man, oh man,

1180
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 3: as we know, those four guys up front move in

1181
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 3: and out. So yeah, there's more. I think there's more questions.

1182
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 3: Plus we've got a half a season under Joe Brady.

1183
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 3: We don't have a half season under Bob Babbitt yet.

1184
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 3: You know that's there's a lot going on on the

1185
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 3: defensive side of the ball, And I guess a lot

1186
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 3: of people are just saying they're like, eh, mcdermeral take

1187
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 3: care of it. It's gonna be fine, Like, you know,

1188
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 3: even he's not saying that.

1189
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 4: Yeah. Uh.

1190
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 2: I wanted to get into an interesting thing that Bucky

1191
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 2: Brooks put together on NFL dot Com. He believes Steve

1192
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 2: that this season there is going to be a more

1193
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 2: dedicated use of two tight end sets by clubs. Last season,

1194
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 2: teams utilized twelve personnel on just over nineteen percent of

1195
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 2: offensive snaps, ranking behind only eleven personnel.

1196
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 4: Which was sixty two percent of the snaps.

1197
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 2: It's right, far and away the most popular personnel grouping,

1198
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 2: but it ranked as the second highest rate of twelve

1199
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 2: personnel deployment in a season during the next Gen stats era,

1200
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 2: which goes back to twenty sixteen. So in the last

1201
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 2: eight seasons, tight end uses was the second highest rate

1202
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 2: ever at just over nineteen percent. And if you remember

1203
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 2: when Dorsey was still the coordinator, the Bills are using

1204
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 2: it for the first four weeks of the season more

1205
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:49,439
Speaker 2: than any other team in the league after barely using it.

1206
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 4: The previous year.

1207
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 3: None to the previous year, Yeah, I or next to none.

1208
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 3: That it's an interesting theory we came up. We thought

1209
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 3: that too going into last year after they drafted Kincaid,

1210
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 3: It's like, well, they're not going to bench Dawson Knox,

1211
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 3: and they didn't. I mean, they started using it.

1212
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 2: Right, and then Knox had the wrist injury, had to

1213
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 2: get surgery and missed like nine weeks, and then the

1214
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 2: twelve personnel usage kind of went out the window.

1215
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 3: It'll be interesting. And now this it's interesting too because

1216
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 3: Bucky Brooks thinks it's going to be league wide. It's

1217
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 3: not just talking about the Bills. He thinks the whole

1218
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 3: league is going to go to it. And I think

1219
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 3: there's something to be said for We've been talking off

1220
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 3: and on over the last handful of years about how

1221
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 3: on both sides of the football, you know, I mean,

1222
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 3: you look at Milano and Bernard and even Dorian Williams

1223
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 3: along with Hide and Poyer down the middle of the defense,

1224
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 3: all those guys are getting closer and closer to the

1225
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 3: same size, you know what I mean. And so on

1226
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 3: the offensive side, you're getting, you know, you're getting guys

1227
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 3: that are the same big running backs, small tight ends.

1228
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:53,439
Speaker 3: Tight ends are looking more like wide receivers. They're getting

1229
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 3: interchangeable big wide receivers are getting close to the size

1230
01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 3: of a fleet of foot tight ends, and you're getting

1231
01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 3: the positionless football. So if you get a couple of

1232
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 3: tight ends like the Bills have in Dawson Knox, Dawson

1233
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 3: would probably be considered the more traditional tight end, but

1234
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 3: Knox and Kincaid, all of a sudden, you throw those

1235
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 3: guys out there, and what are you gonna do when

1236
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 3: they start splitting out and you match up with them

1237
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 3: heavy and they go two tight end and they start

1238
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 3: running the ball at you, You're gonna have to bear

1239
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 3: up because then when you change your personnel defensively to

1240
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 3: getting bigger and nastier up front, and they take those

1241
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 3: same people and spread them out, Now you've got a

1242
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 3: non athlete playing in space. That's all the problems that

1243
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 3: you know two tight ends cause. And that's so that's

1244
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 3: where we're headed. You know, this positionless football. Whether he's

1245
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 3: cause Kin Kate, I don't have a problem. They put

1246
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 3: him out at the boundary's put him outside the numbers.

1247
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 3: We've seen him do it and he's effective. I just

1248
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 3: I think there is something to it. And Bucky Brooks

1249
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 3: wrote a nice thing about it, and I'll be interested

1250
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 3: to see if it happens. I'm okay with it, particularly

1251
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 3: in a year like this with the Bills, where Diggs

1252
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 3: and Davis are both out the door, and you got

1253
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 3: two guys that know this offense really well. Yeah, give

1254
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 3: him a chance to help the other guy's land a

1255
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 3: little softer.

1256
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 2: Well, just to paint the picture of what Bucky Brooks

1257
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:22,919
Speaker 2: and envisions for the Bills, he's thinking, Josh Allen loves

1258
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 2: targets who can expand the strike zone. We know Kincaid

1259
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 2: and knocks our big targets, and now with the addition

1260
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 2: of key On Coleman, he's kind of envisioning two tight

1261
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 2: end sets with Coleman, as you're one wide out and

1262
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 2: well you could put two white outs on the field,

1263
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 2: but anyway, two tight end sets Coleman's on the field

1264
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 2: as well. Now you got three gigantic targets to choose

1265
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 2: from out there, and all of a sudden, you're not

1266
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 2: your dad's twelve personnel anymore. You're a high flying, pass

1267
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 2: catching twelve personnel, which I think is what he envisions

1268
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 2: for a handful of other teams. Just to run down

1269
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 2: the list of teams that he targeted, partaking in this

1270
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 2: trend this year is one. Then Baltimore obviously with Mark

1271
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 2: Andrews and Isaiah Likely, then Green Bay with Tucker Craft

1272
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 2: and Luke Musgrave, two draft picks over the last couple

1273
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 2: of years who are both pass catchers by trade. And

1274
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 2: then Las Vegas they just drafted Michael Mayor at a

1275
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 2: Notre Dame couple of years ago, and now this year

1276
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 2: they took Brock Bowers. You got Mayor and Bowers, like

1277
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:27,439
Speaker 2: holy cow, it's a second round pick in a first

1278
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 2: round pick a tight end.

1279
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 3: Then the question becomes, can you run behind those tight

1280
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:33,439
Speaker 3: ends that are pass catching tight ends?

1281
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 4: I think you can with Mayor, He's two sixty five, right.

1282
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 3: We'll see. But it's in it. It gives an offensive

1283
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 3: coordinator a chance to be creative. There's a lot in this.

1284
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 3: We saw it last year until, like you said, injury

1285
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 3: forced them to different personnel groupings because of Dawson Knox's

1286
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 3: injury would maybe it would have been more interesting to

1287
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 3: see them hang in there with it if if Knox

1288
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 3: didn't get hurt. But and it's not just we saw

1289
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 3: this last year when they got drafted Kincaid because Knox

1290
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 3: was still a quality tight end. You had to get

1291
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 3: the guy on the field. And I think now other

1292
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 3: teams are seeing the benefit of it as well.

1293
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 4: We'll see.

1294
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 3: It's interesting, there's no question about it.

1295
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 2: I mean, and it's something that you know Joe Brady

1296
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:27,640
Speaker 2: can obviously turn to. It's a package that could work

1297
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Speaker 2: for them. I think they can run effectively out of

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Speaker 2: it as well.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 2: It's certainly the appeal of it is you're always putting

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01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 2: the defense in conflict because twelve personnel with two tight

1302
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 2: ends on the field says, hey, we can run the

1303
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 2: ball right at you here because we got bigger people

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Speaker 2: on the field.

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Speaker 4: They're tight to the formation.

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Speaker 3: Here we go.

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01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden you put your three

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01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 2: linebackers on the field and now you break those guys

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Speaker 2: out in your pass.

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Speaker 3: And it also does cushion the blow of losing Digs

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01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 3: and Davis all in one off season because you got

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Speaker 3: these two. You put a tight two tight ends on

1313
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 3: the field, and you've got Shakir who can play, and

1314
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:06,439
Speaker 3: then you don't need Samuels and Coleman to come through

1315
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 3: like home runs. Plus you can start them, you don't

1316
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 3: have to give them seventy five snaps a game. Right

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01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 3: out of the gate. You can sprinkle them in a

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01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 3: little slower and like I said a minute ago, you

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01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 3: could soften the landing for a key On Coleman and

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01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:23,040
Speaker 3: a Terrell Shavers and the rest of these guys who

1321
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:25,800
Speaker 3: you know, are just getting their feet wet, who haven't

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01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 3: even caught a pass from the from the quarterback in

1323
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:34,840
Speaker 3: their career yet, right, you know, so I think it's

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01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 3: it does give them a safety net personnel grouping to

1325
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 3: make sure that you give the You don't have to

1326
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 3: depend on a guy playing in his first NFL game

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01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 3: to come out and win the game against Arizona and

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01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 3: the opener. You know, so you go out there with

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01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 3: two tight ends. You've got guys who've been out there

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01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:54,680
Speaker 3: before and done it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I wanted to look.

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01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 2: I mean Knox and Kincaid last year, with Knox missing

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01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 2: eight games due to risk surgery, they combined for ninety

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01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 2: five receptions for almost nine hundred yards. I mean that's

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01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 2: with a guy missing eight games. If those two stay healthy,

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Speaker 2: I don't think Knox is catching seventy something balls like

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01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 2: Kinkaid is, but he's.

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Speaker 4: Probably over forty. Yeah, probably over forty, maybe fifty.

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01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 2: So now you know, and I think Ken Kay is

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01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:32,559
Speaker 2: going to catch more than the seventy three he caught

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01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 2: last year.

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Speaker 4: I think he's going to be up around eighty eighty five.

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01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 4: So now you're talking.

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01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:40,640
Speaker 2: Now you're talking one hundred and twenty five receptions for

1345
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:44,120
Speaker 2: those two if they lean into the two tight end

1346
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 2: sets and stay with it all season because the two

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Speaker 2: players stay healthy.

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Speaker 3: I'm with you. I think this. I don't think that's unrealistic.

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01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 3: I don't think so either. Now that there's only so

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01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:58,200
Speaker 3: many targets you got and how you disperse them is different,

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01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:02,439
Speaker 3: and I think also think about it. I think, you know,

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01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 3: Khalil Shakir is going to demand more targets. He's gonna

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01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 3: be on the field a lot more in the first

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01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 3: half of this season than he was in the first

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Speaker 3: half of last season. James Cook as well, is probably

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01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 3: gonna do probably right where he's at and maybe be

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01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 3: more productive within the exact same number of snaps. You know.

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Speaker 3: I think there's just a lot there in the weapons

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01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 3: category that Josh Allen's gonna have to work with and

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01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:30,599
Speaker 3: Joe Brady's gonna be able to be creative with. And

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Speaker 3: I think the two tight end set's really intriguing, you know,

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01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 3: because of what happened with the offensive the wide receiver

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01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:38,480
Speaker 3: room in the offseason.

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Speaker 2: And the thing is, like those other three teams he listed,

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Speaker 2: like Baltimore, for example, Mark Andrews gets hurt last year,

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01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:47,760
Speaker 2: Isaiah likely steps into the top roll and flourishes right,

1367
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 2: and now you've got them back both healthy for this season.

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01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 2: I understand why Todd Monk and the OC there might

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01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 2: be like, hey, we're putting both of these guys on

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01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 2: the field and let's roll right, you know.

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Speaker 4: And same thing with green Bay.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Green Bay has a lot of nice young receivers,

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01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 2: but they also drafted these two kids, Tucker Craft and

1374
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:08,439
Speaker 2: Luke Musgrave, and you got an emerging quarterback in Jordan Love.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they could do some damage too, And I

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01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 2: mean I like the potential of Mayor and Bowers, but

1377
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 2: they're working with Aidan O'Connell and Gardner Minshew, so maybe

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01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 2: their production is stunted a bit.

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Speaker 3: Maybe, But also they may they may elevate the quarterback

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01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 3: in some respects too. They give high percentage throw and

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01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 3: it's between the numbers and the bigger targets are easier

1382
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 3: to see and easier to have. You know, get completions too,

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01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:34,640
Speaker 3: So there's a lot in this and I and we

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01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 3: haven't seen I don't know, we haven't seen it that

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01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:40,800
Speaker 3: much yet. And like you said, I mean we said

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01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:43,639
Speaker 3: that last year nineteen percent, like one out of every

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01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:46,959
Speaker 3: five snaps and then six out of every ten snaps

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01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 3: or eleven personnel. That's league wide. So even if twelve personnel,

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01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:57,439
Speaker 3: two tight end sets comes up and like it's fifty

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Speaker 3: percent more, it's still a fifty to thirty split with

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Speaker 3: two tight ends, and that you know, and not every

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01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 3: team is going to have two tight ends worthy of this,

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01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 3: which you know, I used to say this, you can't

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01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 3: find If you're going to get a good tight end,

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01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:15,800
Speaker 3: the best way to do it is to steal them

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Speaker 3: from from another team. Because young tight ends coming out

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01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 3: of college are hard to find. Their good ones are

1398
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:23,479
Speaker 3: hard to find. So the best way to get one

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01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:25,639
Speaker 3: was to steal them from another team in free agency

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01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 3: or trade for him. And now that's changing, I think

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01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 3: a little bit with Kincaid coming out, with you know,

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01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:36,559
Speaker 3: the brock Bowers coming out, all these guys coming out.

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01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 3: Now you're getting a couple of them every year, and

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01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:41,960
Speaker 3: I think the role is becoming more prominent because of

1405
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 3: the flexibility gives offenses. Teams are looking for him, and

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01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 3: you're getting better athletes playing that. Instead of being defensive ends,

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01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:50,880
Speaker 3: these guys are being tight ends, you know what I mean.

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01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 3: So they can see the writing on the wall as

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01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 3: young players saying I'm going to pick a spot where

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01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 3: I can you know, catch the ball and do something.

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01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:00,679
Speaker 3: I don't want to chase the cour back around.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you've had teams so desperate for athletes at

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01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 2: that position, they were recruiting college basketball players to line

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Speaker 2: up there.

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Speaker 4: I mean Antonio twenty years ago.

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Speaker 3: That's been decades, Zales.

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01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 2: Now you've got enough guys in the football pipeline that

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01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:20,559
Speaker 2: have already gravitated to that position that's and foregone a

1419
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:21,840
Speaker 2: basketball career.

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Speaker 3: That has been going on for decades. Pete Metzlars was

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01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 3: a national champion in Wabash College in basketball. So was

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01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 3: Keith mckeller. Both those guys for that nineties team that

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Speaker 3: went to the Super Bowl, both their tight ends the

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01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 3: gout significant time were hoops players. I mean, it's just

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Speaker 3: it makes a lot of sense. You got to have

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01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 3: the hands and the body position and all that stuff.

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01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 3: It's so it's that's that's been going on for a

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01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:49,760
Speaker 3: long long time and it's been very, very effective.

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Speaker 2: We have to step aside and take a break here,

1430
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 2: but when we come back, more of your comments on

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Speaker 2: the tweet sheet and a little NFL True false when

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Speaker 2: we return here on One Bill's Live, presented by a

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Speaker 2: lot of the health It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Here we

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Speaker 2: are One Bills Live, Chris Brown, Steve tasking with you

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01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 2: on a Monday day one of OTA practice sessions. You

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01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 2: want to chime in on the topic in hand, feel

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01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:32,320
Speaker 2: free to do so. As we are asking you what

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01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 2: is the top priority for the Bills during the off

1439
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:37,960
Speaker 2: season program. A lot of roster turnover to the tune

1440
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 2: of forty six point six percent from last year at

1441
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 2: this time, so you let us know what you think

1442
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 2: the top priority is for the team to get accomplished

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01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 2: between now and the time they take a break before

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01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:48,640
Speaker 2: training camp eight o.

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Speaker 4: Three oh five fifty.

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01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 2: Then I'm gonna get on board one eight eight eight

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01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 2: five fifty two five fifty. But in the meantime, into

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Speaker 2: a little NFL True false. It's been a while. NFL

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01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 4: True false.

1452
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 2: Number one quarterback Daniel Jones will finish the twenty twenty

1453
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:14,639
Speaker 2: four season as the Giants starter.

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01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:20,679
Speaker 4: True and tell me why, Steve.

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01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 3: That's it. I mean that they're not going they're not

1456
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:25,679
Speaker 3: moving often.

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01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:32,320
Speaker 2: Well, the alternatives are limited at best, moving off that now.

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01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 3: They he may not be in twenty twenty five, but

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01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 3: he's gonna be the guy for the entire season. There's

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01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:39,799
Speaker 3: no question. You and I both thank you, and I

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01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 3: I believe they made a huge mistake paying him the

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01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:42,679
Speaker 3: money in the first place.

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01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 4: Oh, I believe that he's.

1464
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 3: Not good enough. He's just not good enough. And he's like,

1465
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:56,600
Speaker 3: you know, he's like, he's just not good enough. So

1466
01:15:57,520 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 3: you can say what you want about the roster around him,

1467
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:02,400
Speaker 3: you know how you know, you and I both have

1468
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:05,120
Speaker 3: strong feelings about the you know the way Brian Dabole

1469
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 3: can get the best out of players. He's a really

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01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 3: good coach and a great offensive mind and a great

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01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:11,160
Speaker 3: play caller. He's got all that stuff going on. If

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01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:15,080
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones can't be successful with that guy, you're you

1473
01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 3: backed the wrong horse as the Giants. But now you're

1474
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:20,519
Speaker 3: paying him forty two million bucks a year. You can't

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01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:23,280
Speaker 3: get off him until you're the contract that you were

1476
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:26,639
Speaker 3: stupid enough to give him gets to a point where

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01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:30,720
Speaker 3: you can manage it with the dead cap space you're

1478
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:34,720
Speaker 3: in a here's what's gonna happen. They're gonna stink with

1479
01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones. They're gonna blame the wrong people. They're gonna

1480
01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 3: clean house, and they're gonna hire Bill Belichick, and he's

1481
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:44,720
Speaker 3: gonna stink with Daniel Jones.

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01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 4: If he's still there.

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01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:47,960
Speaker 3: If he's still there, because.

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01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:51,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, their alternatives are not fantastic.

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01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 2: I mean you're talking Drew Locke, Tommy DeVito, and Nathan Rourke.

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01:16:57,479 --> 01:16:59,320
Speaker 2: It was like a third or fourth string in New

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01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 2: England last year. So I mean, of that lot, Daniel

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01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:09,280
Speaker 2: Jones probably is your best option week to week. Let's

1489
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:11,439
Speaker 2: not forget he's coming off an acl knee injury too.

1490
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:13,760
Speaker 2: So now one of the things that he does have,

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01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:17,719
Speaker 2: which is athleticism and escapability, it'd be interesting to see

1492
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 2: how compromised is that coming off the major knee injury

1493
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:24,639
Speaker 2: that cost him, you know, most of the season last year, right,

1494
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 2: I mean he led to the fifteen minutes of fame

1495
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:37,400
Speaker 2: for Tommy DeVito. So I am going to say true

1496
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 2: only because I believe I believe ownership wants to play

1497
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:45,280
Speaker 2: the season out with him.

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01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 4: At quarterback, good, bad or u right.

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Speaker 2: I think John Marra, you know, one of the owners

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01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:55,639
Speaker 2: along with Steve Tish, they want to see Jones play

1501
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 2: an entire season. They got to the playoffs the last

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01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:02,759
Speaker 2: time he did, albeit that was with Saquon Barkley carrying

1503
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:03,280
Speaker 2: the offense.

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01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 4: And he's in Philadelphia now, so.

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01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna give let him play out the string, good,

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01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 2: bad or ugly. The only problem is I think it

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01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:16,840
Speaker 2: makes the seat very hot for Joe Shane and for

1508
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:18,280
Speaker 2: Brian Dable unfairly.

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01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 3: In absolutely, I think they're the right guys for that organization,

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01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 3: and I think the Daniel Jones contract's gonna sink all

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01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 3: of them, all of them. Yeah. I just there's just

1512
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 3: no way around it. And I get it too.

1513
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 4: Now.

1514
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:33,680
Speaker 3: Think about this, forty two million is not that much

1515
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:35,639
Speaker 3: for a quarterback in the today's market. It's like twelve

1516
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:39,920
Speaker 3: million under the elite, and it wasn't really a top

1517
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:42,120
Speaker 3: end of the market deal when they gave it to him.

1518
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 3: But he's still in the way of you getting a

1519
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:47,880
Speaker 3: guy who can actually play and I know this too.

1520
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 3: Brian dabol and Joe Shane and the whole Giants organization

1521
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:54,719
Speaker 3: is gonna give you all the rhetoric about how Daniel

1522
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:56,640
Speaker 3: Jones is the guy and they would not have it

1523
01:18:56,680 --> 01:19:00,400
Speaker 3: any other way, and I'm I'm not buying it. It's

1524
01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:03,080
Speaker 3: group dynamic. They have to back their guy because they

1525
01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:06,719
Speaker 3: have no choice. But I think in their heart of hearts,

1526
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:11,360
Speaker 3: they know they're stuck with a guy that is not

1527
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:13,360
Speaker 3: going to elevate anybody around him.

1528
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 2: Horribly average, and the guy had fifteen touchdown passes, seven

1529
01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 2: rushing touchdowns for a total of twenty three, and then

1530
01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:21,360
Speaker 2: the next offseason he.

1531
01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 4: Got a forty million dollars a year contract.

1532
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:26,000
Speaker 2: That defies logic for me. I don't care if they're

1533
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:28,360
Speaker 2: between a rock and a hard place. I think he

1534
01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 2: had just as much risk starting over with somebody new.

1535
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Joe is not. They just did not

1536
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:35,559
Speaker 3: want to stay where, they didn't want to take a

1537
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 3: step back from mediocrity.

1538
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 2: Well, they did make the playoffs, but he threw.

1539
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:42,679
Speaker 4: Fifteen touchdown passes.

1540
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:48,599
Speaker 3: You gotta just use the goodwill of a nice playoff

1541
01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:52,559
Speaker 3: run to rebuild the next year. You got to step

1542
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:54,800
Speaker 3: away from guys who are never gonna be anything but

1543
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:57,360
Speaker 3: what they've already shown you they are all right.

1544
01:19:57,439 --> 01:19:59,760
Speaker 2: I think we've discussed Daniel Jones enough, so let's go

1545
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 2: to ANFL true false Number two. Will Levis is the

1546
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 2: long term answer for the Tennessee tightness.

1547
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:09,200
Speaker 4: True or false.

1548
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 3: I think I gotta say I'm kind of thinking true.

1549
01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:14,479
Speaker 3: I think we're gonna see him for another five or

1550
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:17,200
Speaker 3: six years. I think he's gonna get to a second contract.

1551
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:20,360
Speaker 3: I think he gives him enough athletically and with his

1552
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:22,639
Speaker 3: strong arm. Now, I don't know what kind of guy

1553
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 3: he is. I don't know if he's got smarts upstairs,

1554
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:28,400
Speaker 3: or whether he's a high character guy, whether he's you know,

1555
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:30,559
Speaker 3: a renegade. I don't know anything about him. But the

1556
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:33,040
Speaker 3: guy's got all the ability you'd ever need in an

1557
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:37,200
Speaker 3: NFL quarterback, and he showed just enough last year that

1558
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 3: he can. He's he's on an uptick. So I'm gonna say, yeah,

1559
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:43,000
Speaker 3: I think it's true.

1560
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:47,679
Speaker 2: I was really impressed with what we saw from him

1561
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:51,960
Speaker 2: down the stretch last season, really impressed with the come

1562
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:54,840
Speaker 2: from behind when he orchestrated in Miami last year that

1563
01:20:55,360 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 2: helped the Bills immeasurably in winning the division. They were

1564
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:05,240
Speaker 2: down I want to say. I want to say they

1565
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 2: were down eleven with about four minutes left in the

1566
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:12,320
Speaker 2: game and came back and beat the Dolphins. Now, the

1567
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:16,840
Speaker 2: Dolphins weren't great at stopping people, but that was in

1568
01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:20,200
Speaker 2: their building on a Sunday night, if I remember right,

1569
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:24,240
Speaker 2: Sunday or a Monday night, and that showed it was

1570
01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 2: a Monday night.

1571
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:29,560
Speaker 4: Showed me a lot about Will Levis. He's a rookie. Fourteen.

1572
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:32,080
Speaker 4: They were down, not eleven. Thanks for the update, guys.

1573
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:37,320
Speaker 2: So for my money, I'm gonna say true, I think

1574
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:39,400
Speaker 2: he is a long term answer. He's got the physical

1575
01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 2: traits that you need. His traits are they resemble Josh.

1576
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:47,400
Speaker 2: I'm not saying he is Josh, but they resemble Joy.

1577
01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:49,880
Speaker 2: He can take off and run and he can throw

1578
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:52,839
Speaker 2: the ball a mile. So we'll see how his decision

1579
01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 2: making is week to week and see if he gets better.

1580
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:59,719
Speaker 2: And I think the appointment of Brian Callahan as head coach,

1581
01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:02,679
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna help him too. He comes off

1582
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:04,959
Speaker 2: the Sean McVay tree through.

1583
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:07,879
Speaker 4: The Bengals.

1584
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:09,880
Speaker 2: You know, he's working under the Bengals head coach there

1585
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 2: whose name is escaping the court.

1586
01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 4: No, it doesn't matter. Taylor, Taylor, Taylor, thank you.

1587
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:18,559
Speaker 2: So he comes off the Sean McVay coaching three through

1588
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:21,600
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor. He was the quarterbacks coach with the Bengals,

1589
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:26,479
Speaker 2: and I think he is going to help Lewis progress

1590
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:28,479
Speaker 2: as well. I think that was one of the main

1591
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:33,880
Speaker 2: reasons why you saw Mike Vrabel get fired. Rabel's defensive guy.

1592
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:37,400
Speaker 2: They wanted an offensive coordinator as head coach to help

1593
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:43,240
Speaker 2: this franchise quarterback blossom, and I think Callahan will help him.

1594
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. Maybe, Yeah, I get that. I still don't think.

1595
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:48,559
Speaker 4: I'm not saying it was right.

1596
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:49,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think it was right.

1597
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:51,640
Speaker 4: I think that was the impetus for it.

1598
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:53,720
Speaker 3: I got a lot of respect from Mike Vrabel and

1599
01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:57,000
Speaker 3: his ability to coach an NFL team. He's a leader,

1600
01:22:57,720 --> 01:23:00,120
Speaker 3: he's a former player, and he is a small or

1601
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:03,160
Speaker 3: is anybody in any room and that, and he's got

1602
01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:06,320
Speaker 3: the football acumen and experience to really be a good

1603
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:08,800
Speaker 3: head coach and I think he's probably gonna be. And

1604
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:15,479
Speaker 3: I thought Tennessee absolutely made a mistake changing that. Whatever

1605
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:20,439
Speaker 3: whatever happened in that building that caused that change. Was wrong.

1606
01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:24,720
Speaker 3: I think that's that's gonna it's that may be the now.

1607
01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:26,599
Speaker 3: I'm not saying they didn't hire the right guy. Maybe

1608
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 3: they will be okay, but with the new guy, but

1609
01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:34,360
Speaker 3: man omn Mike vrabel is a really good NFL coach.

1610
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:40,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's the only way I can see

1611
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:43,400
Speaker 2: them thinking as to why they made that change. I mean,

1612
01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:45,800
Speaker 2: I know they didn't have a winning season either, and

1613
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:47,479
Speaker 2: that can always put you on the hot seat too.

1614
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:50,080
Speaker 2: But to me, I think they said, look, we've got

1615
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:53,160
Speaker 2: a young quarterback who has promised, let's get a head

1616
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 2: coach in here with play calling acumen on the offensive

1617
01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 2: side of the ball and see what he can make

1618
01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:59,040
Speaker 2: of this kid. And I think that's kind of the

1619
01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:03,400
Speaker 2: long term plan for them with Levis as their quarterback.

1620
01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:07,880
Speaker 2: NFL true false number three, The Bears will challenge the

1621
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:14,040
Speaker 2: Lions for NFC North supremacy this season.

1622
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:16,960
Speaker 4: To or false.

1623
01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:22,040
Speaker 3: Why a rookie quarterback and it's the Bears. I just

1624
01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:25,679
Speaker 3: needed you to say that it's the Bears. That's where

1625
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:30,240
Speaker 3: quarterbacks go to die, Okay, I mean they're like whatever

1626
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:33,200
Speaker 3: Caleb Williams is or is he if he becomes a

1627
01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:36,400
Speaker 3: franchise quarterback and is everything and it fulfills all the

1628
01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 3: hopes and dreams. It's not going to be as a

1629
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:43,800
Speaker 3: Chicago Bear. Hmm wow, that may be a you can't

1630
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 3: do it?

1631
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:48,000
Speaker 4: They all, right, well what if I ran? Let me run.

1632
01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:50,640
Speaker 2: You knew the Bears had money to spend this offseason

1633
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:52,759
Speaker 2: because they knew they were going to have a quarterback

1634
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:56,799
Speaker 2: on a rookie contract again, and basically hit the reset

1635
01:24:56,840 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 2: button with Caleb Williams right instead of Justin Fields.

1636
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:01,599
Speaker 4: So there's that.

1637
01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:07,640
Speaker 2: Then they draft Romadunze, they traded for Keenan Allen, and

1638
01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:10,479
Speaker 2: they already have DJ Moore in their wide receiving corps.

1639
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:12,680
Speaker 2: Cole come at a tight end. Now, I'm gonna run

1640
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:14,599
Speaker 2: down the free agent signings. Tell me if you feel

1641
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:18,840
Speaker 2: any differently, Okay. Veterans safety Kevin Byrd among the leading

1642
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:21,200
Speaker 2: takeaway artists at the safety position in the league. Two

1643
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 2: year contract, running back DeAndre Swift, three year contract, tight

1644
01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:29,759
Speaker 2: end Gerald Everett from the Chargers, two year deal, strong

1645
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:33,400
Speaker 2: safety Jonathan Owens from Green Bay. Then they added some

1646
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:38,280
Speaker 2: other budgetary signings. Let's not forget they re signed their

1647
01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 2: starting corner Jalen Johnson to a giant deal. Four years,

1648
01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 2: seventy six million dollars. So do you feel any differently.

1649
01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:51,080
Speaker 3: It's all very impressive, very impressive. They they'll probably sell

1650
01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:56,680
Speaker 3: a lot of tickets because of those signings. I just

1651
01:25:56,800 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 3: do not think they're going to be able to put

1652
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:06,240
Speaker 3: it together. Yeah, for whatever whatever reasons there are that

1653
01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:09,439
Speaker 3: they never put it together. Once in a while, every

1654
01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:12,439
Speaker 3: what ten years, eight years or so, they'll catch lightning

1655
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:15,000
Speaker 3: in a bottle like they did with like they did

1656
01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:19,160
Speaker 3: with Nagy one year and you know, the double doink

1657
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:23,479
Speaker 3: year and they go home after the first round. In

1658
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:26,000
Speaker 3: eighty five, they put it together. Listen, they had they

1659
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:28,080
Speaker 3: had the team of all teams, went and went to

1660
01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:30,559
Speaker 3: a Super Bowl and then with the scheme of all schemes,

1661
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:34,320
Speaker 3: and that was it. It was over that, it went gone.

1662
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:36,760
Speaker 3: They were good for a couple of years after that,

1663
01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:40,559
Speaker 3: and it was coach gone, you know, defensive coordinator gone,

1664
01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:44,599
Speaker 3: the quarterback's gone. That's it.

1665
01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:47,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna say false as well. To me, the

1666
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:49,360
Speaker 2: Bears are a third place team in that division. I

1667
01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:53,840
Speaker 2: think Green Bay and Detroit are better than them, So

1668
01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:58,000
Speaker 2: I can't see them being much better than eight and

1669
01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:00,280
Speaker 2: nine somewhere in the air.

1670
01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:01,400
Speaker 3: And I think.

1671
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:05,360
Speaker 2: I think Green Bay and Detroit are both ten double

1672
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:07,559
Speaker 2: digit win teams this year.

1673
01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:10,559
Speaker 3: So give me, give me the over under for wins

1674
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:14,639
Speaker 3: for Chicago. What do you think? Seven zero point five,

1675
01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:15,760
Speaker 3: seven and a half.

1676
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:18,439
Speaker 2: Seven seven and a half. Someone take the under. You're

1677
01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:19,160
Speaker 2: taking the under.

1678
01:27:21,160 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 4: I think they if they get lucky, they Detroit, they got.

1679
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:26,400
Speaker 3: The last Detroit and green Bay.

1680
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:29,200
Speaker 4: Who all right, let's just let me just with Minnesota.

1681
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:30,400
Speaker 3: Right.

1682
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:33,000
Speaker 4: We actually got to take a break anyway, you look

1683
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:33,599
Speaker 4: at it, take a break.

1684
01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 3: I'm gonna look that up.

1685
01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:36,160
Speaker 4: Are you looking at their schedule? You want to get

1686
01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:36,879
Speaker 4: the Bear schedule?

1687
01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:39,600
Speaker 3: Yes, that's exactly where that is.

1688
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 2: NFL True Falls presented by Patron Tequila, the official tequila

1689
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills. We step aside and take a break.

1690
01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:47,160
Speaker 2: Get some final thoughts on the tweet sheet when we

1691
01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:49,320
Speaker 2: return here on One Bill's Live, presented by Colida heal

1692
01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:50,599
Speaker 2: Fit's Buffalo Bills Radio.

1693
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:06,280
Speaker 4: All Right, Steve, with.

1694
01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:08,680
Speaker 2: His due diligence during the break, has looked up the

1695
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:12,479
Speaker 2: Bears schedule and he is even more pessimistic about their

1696
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:13,759
Speaker 2: win total for the season.

1697
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:15,639
Speaker 3: They're not gonna win a game past week ten.

1698
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:17,840
Speaker 4: Oh my god.

1699
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:18,840
Speaker 3: The Patriots, they.

1700
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:21,120
Speaker 4: Will run down the schedules so people know what they're.

1701
01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:24,080
Speaker 3: Like for the Bears. The Bears they're playing the AFC

1702
01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:27,040
Speaker 3: South and the and the NFC West. So they got

1703
01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:31,360
Speaker 3: the you know, they got the Rams, They've got the Seahawks.

1704
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:35,080
Speaker 3: You know, they don't have the Niner. This that's the

1705
01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:38,280
Speaker 3: out of conference. So they got Tennessee. They start out

1706
01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 3: with Tennessee Titans. That's a loss. Houston Texans. They're not

1707
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:45,800
Speaker 3: gonna beat those guys. Indianapolis Colts. They probably won't beat

1708
01:28:45,800 --> 01:28:49,559
Speaker 3: those guys. The Rams, no way. Now they got it

1709
01:28:49,640 --> 01:28:54,840
Speaker 3: shot at Carolina, the Panthers, Jacksonville Jaguars, and then they

1710
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:57,280
Speaker 3: go Washington Commanders. Okay, they might have a shot at

1711
01:28:57,280 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 3: the Carolina Panthers and the Washington Commanders and the air

1712
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:03,639
Speaker 3: zone of Cardinals. Maybe, But then they go to the

1713
01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:06,240
Speaker 3: they got Patriots. I think by week ten the Patriots

1714
01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:11,200
Speaker 3: will be maybe have a shot. Then they go Packers, Vikings, Lions, Niners,

1715
01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:13,040
Speaker 3: Vikings Lions.

1716
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:14,519
Speaker 4: Why do you think they're gonna beat the Vikings.

1717
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:16,960
Speaker 3: They're not. They're not beating anything out of them.

1718
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:18,519
Speaker 4: They're going a rookie quarterback too.

1719
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:24,880
Speaker 3: They're not beating the Packers. The Vikings. That's right, they're

1720
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:28,040
Speaker 3: gonna sweep them because the Minnesota Vikings aren't the Chicago Bears.

1721
01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:32,240
Speaker 2: Okay, let's not forget they are the Minnesota Vikings.

1722
01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:36,320
Speaker 3: Though they're losing the don't like the deal Bills. You're

1723
01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:39,280
Speaker 3: losing the Super Bowl like the Vikings, like they went

1724
01:29:39,360 --> 01:29:41,360
Speaker 3: oh to three, we went over four, and we get

1725
01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:44,160
Speaker 3: it all in a row. But and then they play

1726
01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:46,800
Speaker 3: the They're not gonna win a game past Week ten

1727
01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:49,040
Speaker 3: this coming year. If they do, and I told you,

1728
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:50,880
Speaker 3: if they do, it'll be because like somebody missed a

1729
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:55,160
Speaker 3: field goal or you know, fumble or some overtime fluky

1730
01:29:55,200 --> 01:29:57,120
Speaker 3: thing will happen, snowstorm something.

1731
01:29:58,280 --> 01:30:00,559
Speaker 4: Steve is still down on the bab so down on

1732
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:02,880
Speaker 4: the Bears. It's gonna happen until the end of time.

1733
01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:04,360
Speaker 4: That's it for us today.

1734
01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:07,800
Speaker 2: O TA practice tomorrow will have media availability. We'll be

1735
01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:09,559
Speaker 2: covering it for you here at one tomorrow