WEBVTT - SYMHC Classics: Growing Up Brontë

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<v Speaker 1>Happy Saturday, everybody. We recently got a request from listener

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<v Speaker 1>Erica to re release our past episodes on the Brontes

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<v Speaker 1>as a Saturday classic. Now. These are the work of

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<v Speaker 1>past hosts Sarah and Deblina from back in We hear

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<v Speaker 1>so often that longtime listeners think that is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the absolute best episodes that Sarah and Deblina ever did.

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<v Speaker 1>They are definitely a top listener favorite, so we are

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<v Speaker 1>very happy to oblige with Erica's request. Today's installment is

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<v Speaker 1>called Growing Up Bronte, and as the name suggests, it

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<v Speaker 1>is about the unconventional childhoods of the Bronte siblings. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to Steph you missed in history class from how Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>Works dot com. Hello, and welcome to the podcast. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah Dowdy and I'm Deblina Chuck reporting and longtime listeners

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<v Speaker 1>know that sad royal childhoods are a frequent theme of ours,

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<v Speaker 1>But the truth is discussing the youth of a podcast

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<v Speaker 1>object is usually pretty interesting, whether their royalty or not.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether it's Elliot Chellaby showing off to the Sultan, or,

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<v Speaker 1>as we discussed recently, paleontologist Mary Anning getting struck by

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<v Speaker 1>lightning as an infant, or even Hans Christian Anderson crashing

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<v Speaker 1>dinner parties in his ill fitting communions. I really think

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<v Speaker 1>that taking a closer look at the early years often

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<v Speaker 1>shows a different side of a subject, or sometimes even

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<v Speaker 1>most intriguingly, a sign of what's to come, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>some spark of genius in the early years. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>rare that we devote an entire episode to those early

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<v Speaker 1>pre fame years, as we're going to do today with

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<v Speaker 1>the talented Bronte family. While we we will follow up

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<v Speaker 1>with an episode on their remarkable breakthroughs and their successes,

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<v Speaker 1>which we all probably know a little bit more about.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a few good reasons for establishing a solid

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<v Speaker 1>footing before we go there. I mean, the first one

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<v Speaker 1>would be that most of the family didn't live much

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<v Speaker 1>beyond childhood. That's kind of the sad reason why the

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<v Speaker 1>youngest Bronte child to die was only at ten and

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<v Speaker 1>the oldest was thirty eight, so not very long lives

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<v Speaker 1>at all. Secondly, the Bronte children grew up under very

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<v Speaker 1>strange circumstances. They grew up in extreme isolation coupled with

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<v Speaker 1>endless intellectual stimulation. Yeah, there's a New Yorker article by

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<v Speaker 1>Mary Hawthorne on their fantastic drawings and watercolors. Something you

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<v Speaker 1>might not be aware of that the Brontes were actually,

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<v Speaker 1>in some cases really talented artists too. But this article

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<v Speaker 1>suggested that the peculiarities of their upbringing produced quote an

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<v Speaker 1>extraordinary collective creative mania, which I think is a great

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<v Speaker 1>way to think about what they were doing as kids.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's one third reason that we want to go

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<v Speaker 1>into their childhood a little bit first, and that's the

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<v Speaker 1>Bronte mystique. It almost hinges on those earlier years. So

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<v Speaker 1>how did one remote family produce three world class writers

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<v Speaker 1>and one brilliant way stroll brother. How did the isolated

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<v Speaker 1>and experienced Bronte girls author books filled with so much

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<v Speaker 1>passion and terror? And what was in the water at

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<v Speaker 1>how worth besides death and disease? And what made them

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<v Speaker 1>also brilliant? So the Brontes are such a staple of

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<v Speaker 1>British literature classes that it probably surprises some people to

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<v Speaker 1>learn their origins were in Northern Ireland and that their

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<v Speaker 1>family name wasn't even Bronte. Their father, who's Patrick, was

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<v Speaker 1>born in sevent seventy seven on St. Patrick's day in

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<v Speaker 1>Northern Ireland, and he was the son of Hugh Bruntie,

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<v Speaker 1>who was a ditch mender. And despite the poor beginnings,

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick was the eldest of ten really you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>a really poor family. Uh. They were very story oriented.

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<v Speaker 1>Hugh Brunty was known in his area as being an

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<v Speaker 1>incredible storyteller. Young Patrick grew up reading as much as

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<v Speaker 1>he possibly could. He even memorized Paradise Lost as a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>And that intellectual spark caught the attention of a local

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<v Speaker 1>Presbyterian minister and from there Patrick made one good connection

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<v Speaker 1>after another with wealthy members of the Methodist movement and

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately earned himself a spot at Cambridge. And I read

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<v Speaker 1>a really great biography on Charlotte Bronte by Rebecca Fraser,

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<v Speaker 1>and she said that this jomp from being the ditchmender's

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<v Speaker 1>son to attending Cambridge was really an almost unimaginable leap. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>it did remind me a little bit of Hans Christian

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<v Speaker 1>Anderson actually, who had just talked about. In eighteen o six, Patrick,

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<v Speaker 1>who had changed his name to Bronte at school, decided

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<v Speaker 1>to take orders as a clergyman. In eighteen twelve, he

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<v Speaker 1>met Mariah Branwell, who was from a well off Cornish

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<v Speaker 1>merchant family with rumors of pirate ancestry. She lived in

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<v Speaker 1>Penzance after all, and Mariah was in a pretty great

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<v Speaker 1>place for an unmarried thirty year old in the nineteenth century.

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<v Speaker 1>She had some money, she had some independence, and she

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<v Speaker 1>was much loved and valued by her family. But only

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<v Speaker 1>months after meeting Trick, Mariah packted in, married him and

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<v Speaker 1>moved north and started having just baby after baby. They

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<v Speaker 1>had six kids and six years Mariah, Elizabeth, Charlotte, Patrick Branwell,

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<v Speaker 1>Emily and Anne. So most of the younger Bronte children

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<v Speaker 1>were born in Thornton, West Yorkshire, where the Brontes could socialize.

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<v Speaker 1>It was near enough to a town that they could

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<v Speaker 1>go visit with friends, They had a They had a

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<v Speaker 1>busy life there, and that was especially important considering Mr

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<v Speaker 1>and Mrs Bronte were already pretty isolated from their extended

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<v Speaker 1>families in Ireland and Cornwall. But of course Bronte buffs

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<v Speaker 1>know that the kids didn't grow up in this busy,

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<v Speaker 1>sociable town of Thornton Heathcliff, Romes Moor's after all, not

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<v Speaker 1>some cute little village, so not long after Anne's birth.

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<v Speaker 1>In eighteen twenty, Mr Bronte accepted a position as the

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<v Speaker 1>curate of Haworth and it wasn't really too far off

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<v Speaker 1>from Thornton, but the hills and the moor surrounding it

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<v Speaker 1>made the place inaccessible, plus cold and windy and boggy.

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<v Speaker 1>And today we know that Howard was also very, very unhealthy.

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<v Speaker 1>And I can actually remember this from my eleventh grade

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<v Speaker 1>literature class, my teacher drawing a picture of the Bronte

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<v Speaker 1>house and um the water supply and where it came from,

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<v Speaker 1>and it just takes very involved, definitely, but it's something.

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<v Speaker 1>The unhealthy nous of the town was something that Mr

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<v Speaker 1>Bronte noticed right away and tried to fix in his

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<v Speaker 1>role as parson. I mean, just to give you a

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<v Speaker 1>few examples of how unhealthy this place really was, because

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<v Speaker 1>he might be thinking, you know, small village, how bad

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<v Speaker 1>could it be? But the Babbage Report on Sanitation from

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<v Speaker 1>about thirty years after the Bronte's arrival compared Howard's death

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<v Speaker 1>rate to that of White Chapel, London, of course, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the um worst most packed with people's slums in London.

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<v Speaker 1>The average life expectancy was only twenty five years. The

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<v Speaker 1>problems that this place had where that there weren't enough privies,

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<v Speaker 1>no sewers, water was rarely clean, and there were too

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<v Speaker 1>many dead filling up the poorly drained churchyard. And guess

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<v Speaker 1>where the family lived, right by the churchyard with a

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<v Speaker 1>view of the cemetery on two sides. Since the local

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<v Speaker 1>families were mostly quite poor, they were laborers and factory workers.

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<v Speaker 1>There were only a few other, quote, you know, respectable

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<v Speaker 1>people that the Brontes could socialize with, so they stuck

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<v Speaker 1>to themselves mainly. There was a class thing here. The

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<v Speaker 1>Brontes were poor also, but they were middle class because

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<v Speaker 1>of Mr Bronte's position. The girls grew up learning to

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<v Speaker 1>do things like put up linen, but they had servants

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<v Speaker 1>to do the cleaning and the cooking. Yeah, I read

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<v Speaker 1>one description of them learning lighthousekeeping whatever that means, because

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<v Speaker 1>it means I just imagine people walking around with a

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<v Speaker 1>feather nut when I hear being I don't know, like

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<v Speaker 1>making lace or something. But still, you know, you're probably

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<v Speaker 1>wondering at this point, why would you take this position

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<v Speaker 1>if this town was so unhealthy. But the job meant

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<v Speaker 1>a major raise for Mr Bronte. Plus the house for

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<v Speaker 1>his family of eight and a job for life, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a pretty serious thing. But the tragedies started not

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<v Speaker 1>too long after they moved. Only nine months later, Mrs Bronte,

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<v Speaker 1>who hadn't really ever recovered after Anne's birth, started to

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<v Speaker 1>get very sick, and Mr Bronte nursed her himself for

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<v Speaker 1>seven months while she slowly died of what at the

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<v Speaker 1>time people thought was stomach cancer but now what historians

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<v Speaker 1>believe was blood poisoning. M Mariah, the oldest daughter, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>still just a little kid, took care of her younger

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<v Speaker 1>sisters and her brother until all six of them also

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<v Speaker 1>got sick. They came down with scarlet fever, and at

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<v Speaker 1>that point Mr Bronte was just at his breaking point

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<v Speaker 1>and wrote to his sister in law, Elizabeth Branwell, to

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<v Speaker 1>come up to Yorkshire and please help the family. So

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<v Speaker 1>she attended her sister's death and stayed to care for

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<v Speaker 1>the kids, but she really wanted to go home to

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<v Speaker 1>warmer Cornwall. Mr Bronte meanwhile tried to find a new

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<v Speaker 1>wife to help educate his kids and also to study

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<v Speaker 1>his temper and allow his sister in law to go home,

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<v Speaker 1>but he found no takers. I mean, he just wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>in that attractive a position at the time. He had

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<v Speaker 1>six kids and a really low salary, so it just

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<v Speaker 1>didn't help his cause. Yeah, no takers. So with six kids, though,

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<v Speaker 1>and five of them girls, how was he supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>educate them on a poor Parsons income. And the kids were,

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<v Speaker 1>of course precocious, their little Brontes. They'd read newspapers and

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<v Speaker 1>talk politics. They'd argue about who they thought was best,

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<v Speaker 1>the Duke of Wellington or Napoleon or Hannibal or Caesar.

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<v Speaker 1>But they didn't have a formal education, which was especially

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<v Speaker 1>important for girls who might need to actually go work

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<v Speaker 1>later in life, you know, become teachers, become governesses. So

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like kind of a hopeless situation, But then

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<v Speaker 1>mere goal seemed to happen. In eighteen four, a new

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<v Speaker 1>school for the daughters of the poor evangelical clergy opened

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<v Speaker 1>at cowan Bridge, only about fifty miles from Haworth. For

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<v Speaker 1>only fourteen pounds a year, a girl could study history, geography, globes, grammar, writing, arithmetic,

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<v Speaker 1>needlework and fine housekeeping. And you could even choose a

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<v Speaker 1>vocation of sorts. You could choose to learn to be

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<v Speaker 1>a wife, a governess, or your own housekeeper. And for

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<v Speaker 1>added cache, the school's director was a wealthy clergyman named

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<v Speaker 1>Carus Wilson, which was a really big name to someone

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<v Speaker 1>like Mr Bronte. Okay, though, if you've read Jane Eyre,

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<v Speaker 1>you know where this story is going. The school was cold,

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<v Speaker 1>it was damp, the building was overcrowded, too many girls

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<v Speaker 1>in two cramped rooms with too few privies, and poor food.

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<v Speaker 1>And another problem was that Wilson thought deprivation was a

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<v Speaker 1>really good thing. He believed little children were particularly sinful,

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<v Speaker 1>so he probably wasn't the best person to be running

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<v Speaker 1>a school full of little children in an unhealthy spot.

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<v Speaker 1>But by November, the four eldest Bronte girls were at

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<v Speaker 1>Cowan Bridge, and Mariah went home first in February. She

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<v Speaker 1>was dead by May of tuberculosis. Elizabeth went home May

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<v Speaker 1>thirty one, prompting Mr Bronte to leave the very next

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<v Speaker 1>day and rescue Charlotte and Emily. So I mean that

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<v Speaker 1>gives you a pretty good picture of what kind of

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<v Speaker 1>state Elizabeth must have been in for him to go

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<v Speaker 1>rushing back. She died just two weeks later, and according

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<v Speaker 1>to an article on Elizabeth Bronte um by Jean Trippet.

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<v Speaker 1>She's actually called the Unknown Bronte because so little is

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<v Speaker 1>really known about her. Mariah also died young, but she

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<v Speaker 1>was sort of the inspiration for Helen Burns and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>really idolized by her family. But a Elizabeth more of

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<v Speaker 1>a blank slate. So anyway, this article by Jeane Trippett

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<v Speaker 1>and the journal Bronte Studies. Elizabeth supposedly also met with

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<v Speaker 1>some unknown quote alarming accident while she was at school,

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<v Speaker 1>her head being quote severely cut according to the school's headmistress.

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<v Speaker 1>So it seems like there were, you know, potentially more

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<v Speaker 1>serious things going on, not that the accident was necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>something um, somebody had caused her harm, but just that

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't covered in any more detail than that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds sketchy, you know, it makes you feel like

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<v Speaker 1>maybe cowen Bridge was Lowwood from Jane Eyre, Charus Wilson

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<v Speaker 1>could have been the evil Mr Brocklehurst. And I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk more about Charlotte's legacy in the next episode.

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<v Speaker 1>But since she was the only sister to become really

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<v Speaker 1>famous during her lifetime, a lot of people took an

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<v Speaker 1>interest in that connection. Charlotte herself said that Lowood was true.

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<v Speaker 1>The Wilson camp claimed that Charlotte couldn't be relied on

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<v Speaker 1>for having been a child at the time wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>remembered things as they really were exactly. According to Frasier,

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<v Speaker 1>their biggest piece of evidence came from a letter signed

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<v Speaker 1>a h which was believed to be the former headmistress

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<v Speaker 1>and inspiration for the kind Miss Temple. In Charlotte's book,

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<v Speaker 1>she claimed everything had been rosy in n though someone

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<v Speaker 1>finally bothered too to the math and realized that the

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<v Speaker 1>real Miss Temple had actually been dead when she wrote

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<v Speaker 1>the vindicating letter, and the letter's author was probably actually

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<v Speaker 1>the inspiration for the evil Mrs Scatchard, which doesn't sound

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<v Speaker 1>so good for cowen Bridge all of a sudden, but

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<v Speaker 1>with the death of Mariah and Elizabeth in such a

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<v Speaker 1>short span of time, and of course also so soon

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<v Speaker 1>after the death of their mother, uh, the kids were

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<v Speaker 1>really devastated. And remember their house looks out on a

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<v Speaker 1>cemetery too, so there was really no escaping this feeling

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<v Speaker 1>of death. A later guest remembered that Howard's high mortality

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<v Speaker 1>rate was really obvious to anybody who was stopping through,

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<v Speaker 1>because the church bell would constantly told for the dead,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the tombstone chiseler would always be at work,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, chipping away at the granite blocks, which sounds

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<v Speaker 1>really horrifying in this context of a family who has

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<v Speaker 1>just lost so many people in such a short span

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<v Speaker 1>of time. So Miss Branwell became the household educator for

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<v Speaker 1>the girls, while Mr Bronte would have given extra Greek

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<v Speaker 1>and Latin lessons to Branwell. And they also had an

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<v Speaker 1>inexhaustible supply of reading materials day old newspapers, magazines, borrowed books,

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<v Speaker 1>methodist tracks, and literature. Of course, Charlotte and Branwell read

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<v Speaker 1>almost all of Byron at age thirteen and twelve. The

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<v Speaker 1>only thing that Patrick Bronte seemed to censor was Miss

0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:48.600
<v Speaker 1>Branwell's Ladies magazine because he thought it had silly little

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<v Speaker 1>stories in it. He didn't want his kids to read them. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's probably no surprise that with the kids reading

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<v Speaker 1>so much romantic literature and then geography too and current events,

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<v Speaker 1>that they made up their own world eventually, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as a way to kind of get away from all

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<v Speaker 1>that was going on in their real life and filled

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<v Speaker 1>it with byronic heroes and their most famous creation, the

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<v Speaker 1>Empire of Angria, with its capital of glass Town, started

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<v Speaker 1>when Mr Bronte brought home a set of wooden soldiers

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<v Speaker 1>from Brandwell, and Charlotte later described it in a way

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds so genuine. You know, you can imagine kids

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<v Speaker 1>just picking up toys and starting this imaginary world. But

0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:31.440
<v Speaker 1>she wrote, Brandwell came to our door with a box

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<v Speaker 1>of soldiers. Emily and I jumped out of bed, and

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<v Speaker 1>I snatched one up and exclaimed, this is the Duke

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<v Speaker 1>of Wellington. This shall be the Duke. Emily's became Gravy,

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<v Speaker 1>and Anne's waiting boy, and brand Well's Bonaparte. So with

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<v Speaker 1>all their soldiers named, I think the names went through

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<v Speaker 1>a few variations in some cases. Uh, the soldiers became

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<v Speaker 1>what they called the young men, and um they lived

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<v Speaker 1>in Glasstown. The kids became these all powerful genies. And

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<v Speaker 1>then the Glasstown saga morphed into something that wasn't just

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<v Speaker 1>like playing with the soldiers on rainy days and making

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<v Speaker 1>up stories. It really became a world for them. Yeah.

0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:12.040
<v Speaker 1>Brand Will even created a language in history and maps

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<v Speaker 1>for this world. By January eighty nine, they started to

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<v Speaker 1>produce miniature Glasstown magazines with science articles, poems, and jokes. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>all the Glasstown writings were done on a miniature scale.

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<v Speaker 1>So the first magazine was two and a quarter inch

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<v Speaker 1>by one in a quarter inch, done on scraps of

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<v Speaker 1>sugar paper or wallpaper in Angria and the Angrians brand

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<v Speaker 1>Well crammed two thousand, five hundred words onto a five

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<v Speaker 1>by seven inch page and they called it Scribblemania, which

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<v Speaker 1>I think is my new band name. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they had a reason, though, behind all of this tiny writing,

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<v Speaker 1>which they also did to sort of imitate print almost.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a way to keep the adults out of

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<v Speaker 1>their business, you know, because it was so impossible to read,

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<v Speaker 1>probably especially if you're a nineteenth century person with bad eyesight.

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<v Speaker 1>So Emily and Anne participated in the world of Angria,

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<v Speaker 1>but they also created their own world called Gondol. And

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know quite as much about Gondol as we

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<v Speaker 1>do about Glasstown, because Charlotte destroyed much of her sister's

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<v Speaker 1>early writings after their deaths. But there is one pretty

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<v Speaker 1>intriguing fact, especially if you've read any of those younger

0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Bront's works. Gondol was ruled by women, which certainly set

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<v Speaker 1>it apart from from the world of Angria, which had

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<v Speaker 1>these really strong male protagonists. But all the kids continued

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<v Speaker 1>writing poems and plays and romances about their worlds and

0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:39.399
<v Speaker 1>these characters well into adulthood, and Charlotte Wood at various

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<v Speaker 1>times try to ditch her imaginary world as she'd get older,

0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:44.600
<v Speaker 1>but she'd come back, you know sometimes. Deklena and I

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<v Speaker 1>were discussing before the podcast actually that while so charming

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<v Speaker 1>in their youth, it does start to take on a

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<v Speaker 1>disturbing tone when they are still so obsessed with it

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<v Speaker 1>as they get older. But her indirect interest in it

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately ended up coming out partly in some of her

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<v Speaker 1>more famous work. Charlotte's alter ego, The Morna is very

0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:09.520
<v Speaker 1>much like her later anti hero Mr Rochester, So I mean,

0:18:09.720 --> 0:18:12.959
<v Speaker 1>there you go. But of course they couldn't play at

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<v Speaker 1>home forever. In eighteen thirty, Mr Bronte got sick and

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<v Speaker 1>nearly died. When he recovered, he realized his kids had

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<v Speaker 1>no safety net, so he decided to keep branwell at home,

0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:26.000
<v Speaker 1>but he sent Charlotte to school again to learn to

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<v Speaker 1>be a governess, this time at Mrs Wooler School at

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<v Speaker 1>roe Head, twenty miles from Hollworth. It was different from

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<v Speaker 1>colin Bridge and it wasn't a charity school. Other students

0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:39.679
<v Speaker 1>there were rich manufacturing daughters, and Charlotte stood out with

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<v Speaker 1>her Irish accent and her funny clothes. To make things worse,

0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:45.880
<v Speaker 1>she was placed at the bottom of the class since

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<v Speaker 1>her entire education had been so haphazard, and she couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>play because she was so nearsighted, so she was really

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<v Speaker 1>left out right instead of you know, joining in with

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<v Speaker 1>ball games. Eventually, though, according to the BBC documentary In

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<v Speaker 1>Search of the Brontes, she made friends through storytelling, which

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<v Speaker 1>was really her strength. As we know, she would rehash

0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:08.840
<v Speaker 1>the ghost tales that she learned from the Bronte's much

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<v Speaker 1>loved cook Tabby, and two of her roe Head friends,

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<v Speaker 1>Ellen Nucy and Mary Taylor, became lifelong correspondence of her.

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<v Speaker 1>So she did manage to make those bonds. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>as a side note to the correspondence with Ellen really

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<v Speaker 1>is the source of a lot of biographical information about

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<v Speaker 1>not just Charlotte, but the Bronte family as a whole.

0:19:28.720 --> 0:19:32.520
<v Speaker 1>Mary Taylor burned her correspondence, so we don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>all we're missing there. So Charlotte also worked her way

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<v Speaker 1>to the top of the class, and after two years

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<v Speaker 1>she came home. This is maybe one of the happier

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<v Speaker 1>times in the Brontes lives. All the kids were back

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<v Speaker 1>at the parsonage. Charlotte's friend Ellen, who visited in eighty three,

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<v Speaker 1>wrote that quote. They were beginning to feel conscious of

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<v Speaker 1>their powers. They were in each other's companionship. Their health

0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:05.800
<v Speaker 1>was good, their spirits were good. There was awten joyousness

0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:10.080
<v Speaker 1>and mirth. The perfection of unrestrained talk and intelligence brightened

0:20:10.160 --> 0:20:13.120
<v Speaker 1>the close of the days which were passing all too swiftly.

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<v Speaker 1>So we can kind of get a picture two of

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<v Speaker 1>the Brontes during this period. They would take long walks

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<v Speaker 1>over the moors, and in the evening, the four girls,

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<v Speaker 1>or if Ellen was visiting, would stroll around the sitting

0:20:25.040 --> 0:20:27.520
<v Speaker 1>room arm in arm. There were a lot of pets

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<v Speaker 1>in the house. Later on they had geese named Victoria

0:20:30.200 --> 0:20:33.399
<v Speaker 1>and Adelaide, which I just love. Um brand Will also

0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:35.800
<v Speaker 1>still seemed like the great hope of the family, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's something that's always interesting when you learn about the Brontes.

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<v Speaker 1>These three very famous sisters yet the family expected the

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<v Speaker 1>Sun to be the great one. But at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it seemed likely. He was charming, He was smart,

0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:50.520
<v Speaker 1>he was good at everything he did. He had a

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<v Speaker 1>well respected art teacher at this point, and while his

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<v Speaker 1>most famous work of his sisters is unfortunately pretty crude,

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<v Speaker 1>not the best representation and that you'd want as your legacy,

0:21:02.400 --> 0:21:05.760
<v Speaker 1>he was considered an accomplished draftsman, so maybe he was

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<v Speaker 1>a little better at drawing than at oil painting. So

0:21:08.800 --> 0:21:12.400
<v Speaker 1>Charlotte turned down a few governessing jobs to stay at home,

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<v Speaker 1>but in eighteen thirty five she eventually got an offer

0:21:14.960 --> 0:21:17.320
<v Speaker 1>that she couldn't refuse. It was a teaching position at

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<v Speaker 1>roe Head with free education offered for one sister. But

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<v Speaker 1>going back to roe Head turned out to be a

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<v Speaker 1>really serious mistake. Emily could barely make it three months

0:21:28.000 --> 0:21:30.640
<v Speaker 1>before she had to go home. She couldn't stand being

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<v Speaker 1>away from home. The more's her imaginary life, so fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>year old and came up instead. Charlotte was also seriously

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<v Speaker 1>depressed and was going through kind of a religious crisis.

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<v Speaker 1>In August eighteen thirty six, she wrote, quote, the thought

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<v Speaker 1>came over me, am I to spend all the best

0:21:48.359 --> 0:21:52.159
<v Speaker 1>part of my life in this wretched bondage forcibly suppressing

0:21:52.200 --> 0:21:56.040
<v Speaker 1>my rage at the idleness, the apathy, and the hyperbolical

0:21:56.200 --> 0:22:00.639
<v Speaker 1>and most asinine stupidity of those fat headed oaths on compulsion,

0:22:00.800 --> 0:22:05.000
<v Speaker 1>assuming an air of kindness, patience and assiduity, and to

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<v Speaker 1>make matters worse, brand Well partly the reason why the

0:22:07.680 --> 0:22:12.760
<v Speaker 1>girls were working in the first place was failing miserably. Yeah,

0:22:12.800 --> 0:22:16.800
<v Speaker 1>they had of course taken jobs to help their father out,

0:22:16.840 --> 0:22:19.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, help him support brand Well. And in the

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<v Speaker 1>fall of eighty five, Brandwell had gone to London to

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<v Speaker 1>apply to the Royal Academy of the Arts. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>this was going to be his big start. He either

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<v Speaker 1>never made it to London and was robbed on the way,

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<v Speaker 1>or he got to London that didn't end up applying

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<v Speaker 1>to school, or he applied but was turned down. It's

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<v Speaker 1>unclear of what exactly happened, but Brandwell later tried to

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<v Speaker 1>still make his living as an artist, specifically as a

0:22:43.720 --> 0:22:46.160
<v Speaker 1>portrait painter, but he couldn't really compete with a better

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<v Speaker 1>artists and the nude gara types, and he became addicted

0:22:50.280 --> 0:22:54.080
<v Speaker 1>to opium eventually, which was on top of a developing

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<v Speaker 1>drinking problem, and it wasn't long before he had to

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<v Speaker 1>start making his living as a tutor, which sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>a good job for a lot of people, but it

0:23:02.520 --> 0:23:04.960
<v Speaker 1>was not something that Brandwell was suited for at all.

0:23:05.040 --> 0:23:08.199
<v Speaker 1>When he was eventually fired from his first position, his

0:23:08.280 --> 0:23:12.680
<v Speaker 1>employers complained that their sons had basically done nothing more

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<v Speaker 1>than make sketches and think up stories to go with

0:23:15.560 --> 0:23:17.479
<v Speaker 1>their tutor strongs, which I don't know, it sounds kind

0:23:17.480 --> 0:23:20.520
<v Speaker 1>of fun for them, but telling their parents weren't too

0:23:20.520 --> 0:23:23.200
<v Speaker 1>happy they were spending money on that, and there was

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<v Speaker 1>a rumor too, right, there was also a rumor that

0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:29.439
<v Speaker 1>Brandwell might have had an illegitimate child who died with

0:23:29.480 --> 0:23:33.040
<v Speaker 1>a servant um. So, you know, just kind of sketchy

0:23:33.080 --> 0:23:37.000
<v Speaker 1>things starting to pick up around his name, and that charm,

0:23:37.160 --> 0:23:40.880
<v Speaker 1>that intense energy he had was starting to seem more manic,

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<v Speaker 1>a little more disturbing. After two years at school, Anne

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<v Speaker 1>got sick and had to go home. Charlotte, who was

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<v Speaker 1>depressed to the point of illness, also followed in eighty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>and over the next few years, the Bronte girls all

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<v Speaker 1>took teaching jobs, even painfully shy Emily, who distinguished herself

0:23:58.240 --> 0:24:01.400
<v Speaker 1>at law Hill by telling her stwodents that she preferred

0:24:01.440 --> 0:24:05.040
<v Speaker 1>the school dog to them. That wouldn't win you many

0:24:05.160 --> 0:24:09.639
<v Speaker 1>most popular teacher points at all, and bad experience with

0:24:09.680 --> 0:24:13.200
<v Speaker 1>the Ingham family influenced her later novel Agnes Gray, while

0:24:13.280 --> 0:24:17.440
<v Speaker 1>Charlotte's experience with the Sedgewick family provided inspiration for Jane Eyre,

0:24:17.920 --> 0:24:20.239
<v Speaker 1>and one of Charlotte's charges even threw a Bible at

0:24:20.280 --> 0:24:22.679
<v Speaker 1>her head and was very likely the model for John Reid,

0:24:22.880 --> 0:24:28.360
<v Speaker 1>Giant Eyre's cruel cousin. Yeah. So Charlotte wasn't enjoying governess thing,

0:24:28.680 --> 0:24:31.040
<v Speaker 1>to say the least, but she also wasn't willing to

0:24:31.560 --> 0:24:34.159
<v Speaker 1>trade it in for a hasty marriage. She turned on

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<v Speaker 1>two proposals in just six months, the first of which

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<v Speaker 1>came from Ellen's brother, who was a Calvinist preacher who

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<v Speaker 1>really just needed a wife for his big move to Sussex.

0:24:43.520 --> 0:24:46.280
<v Speaker 1>You know it was proper that he was married. Reminds

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<v Speaker 1>you a little bit of Sint Jhon Rivers. I think.

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<v Speaker 1>The second proposal came from a clergyman who was just

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<v Speaker 1>out of Dublin University. They met in a large group.

0:24:55.920 --> 0:24:59.560
<v Speaker 1>Charlotte mistook his name as Price instead of Bryce, and

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<v Speaker 1>really the next thing, you know, she was getting a

0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:05.760
<v Speaker 1>letter of proposal from him, and that wasn't her style.

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<v Speaker 1>So it seems like all the brilliant Brontes were just

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<v Speaker 1>stuck in a rut, you know, that they were going

0:25:11.280 --> 0:25:13.119
<v Speaker 1>to have to the girls were gonna have to just

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<v Speaker 1>tutor forever or be governess is rather um something that

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<v Speaker 1>they did not care for. Brandwell was now working as

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<v Speaker 1>a railway booking clerk and not taking that work very seriously.

0:25:23.520 --> 0:25:26.919
<v Speaker 1>He was doodling in the ledgers, and so out of

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<v Speaker 1>all this kind of um, I don't know, stall dead

0:25:30.640 --> 0:25:34.880
<v Speaker 1>end sort of life, it seems a new idea emerged.

0:25:35.119 --> 0:25:38.840
<v Speaker 1>Ms Brandwell proposed offering up some of her savings. She

0:25:38.880 --> 0:25:42.200
<v Speaker 1>had been squirreling away money over the year from her

0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:45.680
<v Speaker 1>father's inheritance to her um, even though she was paying

0:25:45.760 --> 0:25:49.040
<v Speaker 1>Mr Bronte rent the whole time she insisted on it. Um.

0:25:49.080 --> 0:25:51.160
<v Speaker 1>She had managed to save a bit, though, and so

0:25:51.200 --> 0:25:54.040
<v Speaker 1>she offered a pretty good sum for the three girls

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<v Speaker 1>to open their own school, you know, which would be

0:25:56.200 --> 0:25:58.320
<v Speaker 1>a lot different than being a governess, where you're not

0:25:58.440 --> 0:26:02.200
<v Speaker 1>really a servant, but you're not really a member of

0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:05.679
<v Speaker 1>the family either. So Consequently, you're just completely isolated. If

0:26:05.680 --> 0:26:07.280
<v Speaker 1>you had your own school, you'd be able to do

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<v Speaker 1>your own things. So Charlotte really liked this idea. Emily

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<v Speaker 1>and Anne were into it too, but Charlotte cooked up

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<v Speaker 1>an additional perk. She thought that for their school to succeed,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bronte girls would really need to distinguish themselves in

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<v Speaker 1>some way, have something that made them different. So she

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<v Speaker 1>proposed that she and Emily would go off to Brussels

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<v Speaker 1>for a few months. Mary Taylor was studying there and

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<v Speaker 1>so she had a connection, and they had hone their

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<v Speaker 1>French and their Italian. Maybe they'd pick up some German um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, pick up these accomplishments that would make their

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<v Speaker 1>school one that people in the area would actually want

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<v Speaker 1>to attend. And Aunt Brandwell and Mr Bronte were game,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a little skeptical, but they were. They were

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<v Speaker 1>fine with it. Sounded like an okay idea. So the

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<v Speaker 1>Bronte started looking for a school, and with their connections

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<v Speaker 1>and Brussels, you know, they had somebody on the on

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<v Speaker 1>the other side of the channel who could do the

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<v Speaker 1>legwork for them, and they utimately found a school that

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<v Speaker 1>was high quality but pretty inexpensive, you know, within their budget,

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<v Speaker 1>and in January ET two they settled on the Palsiona

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<v Speaker 1>a j So that's where we're going to leave off

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<v Speaker 1>for this episode. I can say at this point, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the Brontes are all grown up. We have exited the

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<v Speaker 1>growing up Bronte phase. And next time we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be talking about their time in Belgium, their education, and

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<v Speaker 1>then the three breakout novels of course that are published

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<v Speaker 1>in just one year, and then as we know, all

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<v Speaker 1>of the family tragedy that starts um piling up towards

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<v Speaker 1>the to the end of the Bronte saga. Plus we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna talk a little bit about the reputation of the Brontes,

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<v Speaker 1>which is something that I'm very interested in discussing in

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<v Speaker 1>more detail. Yeah, it's interesting how that reputation evolves and

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<v Speaker 1>um the part that some of the Brontes themselves playing that.

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