WEBVTT - The Spirited Actor - Purnell Holloway 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:03.280 Hello, and welcome to the Spirited Actor Podcast with me 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:06.440 Tracy Moore. I was a casting director for film and 0:00:06.480 --> 0:00:10.600 TV and commercials for over thirty years. I transitioned to 0:00:10.640 --> 0:00:14.200 a celebrity acting coach after I cast a film New 0:00:14.280 --> 0:00:19.400 Jersey Drive with executive producers Spike Lee and director Nick Domez. 0:00:20.040 --> 0:00:24.439 I auditioned every rapper from biggiees Balls to Tupac, and 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:28.200 I realized that rappers and musical artists they needed help 0:00:28.280 --> 0:00:32.600 transitioning to acting. My clients consist of musical artists from 0:00:32.760 --> 0:00:37.400 Buster Rhymes to Eve, Missy Elliott, Angela Yee from The 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:41.120 Breakfast Club, and Vanessa Simmons to name a few. I 0:00:41.240 --> 0:00:45.080 also coach sports stars and host as well. I feel 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:48.720 I have the best of both worlds. As a casting director, 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:51.320 I know exactly what they're looking for, and as an 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:53.800 acting coach, I can coach you to be remembered in 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:57.080 that room. Now I know, I know actors want to 0:00:57.160 --> 0:01:00.200 get the job. I get that, but being remembered by 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:04.760 casting director that is powerful. And now it's time for 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:11.760 meditation of the day. Courage is resistance to fear, mastery 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:20.039 of fear, not absence of fear. Anonymous let your fear 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:26.520 fuel you. Sometimes when we approach new situations or new 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:32.399 ideas or a new lifestyle, fear tends to show up 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:35.600 first and talk us out of it. Oh you're never 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:38.000 going to be able to learn how to swim, you're 0:01:38.000 --> 0:01:38.559 too old. 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:40.560 Oh you can't change. 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:44.640 Your life around after forty because your metabolism slows down. 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:48.920 Oh you can't. We talk ourselves out. 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:53.240 Of it before we even visualize seeing us in where 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:57.080 it is we want to be. Instead of allowing fear 0:01:57.400 --> 0:02:02.560 to stop you, allow fear to fuel you into your dreams. 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:08.680 Prove fear wrong and stop having conversation with fear and 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:13.760 have conversation with courage. Today, I will spend time with 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:16.799 courage and ex out fear. 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:19.280 Before we get started. 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:22.639 I like to remind everyone to go to Krackical Network 0:02:22.680 --> 0:02:26.680 to view seasons one and two of my show Inside 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:29.680 the Black Box that I co host with the great 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:35.480 Emmy Award winning Joe Morton. Look out for news on 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:40.720 season three soon. Welcome to the Spirited Actor Podcast with 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:46.320 me Tracy Moore. I am always super excited when I 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:50.920 have my friend friends on the show because these people 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:56.280 know me in my early stages in the embryo stages 0:02:56.320 --> 0:03:01.160 of my casting director career, and I'm knew them as well, 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:08.120 and to see them still working and pursuing and achieving. 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:10.480 This is what it's all about for me. 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:14.920 So, ladies and gentlemen, we have another multi hyphenated person 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:18.200 in the house our yet today I want you to 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:23.560 stand up and please put your hands together for Parnell Hollow. 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:32.680 Hello, everybody. How you guys doing out there? Man? 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:37.440 I earlier audience, we were talking about how we have 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:40.640 been trying to get together really since I started the 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:42.960 podcast because. 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:46.480 I followed him, followed his career. I'm gonna let him 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:48.680 take us back because. 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:53.839 Today I was thinking to myself, I felt like it 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:57.200 wasn't acting that when I first met you, it was 0:03:57.320 --> 0:04:01.119 comedy because I was really embedded in the lady. 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:04.640 Yes, nineties, That's exactly what it was. 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:10.520 Club Village, Yes, oh my god, Caroline stand up all 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:13.840 of those. So I'm gonna let you tell it. 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:16.240 Okay, okay. 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:20.520 So my first encounter with missus Tracy Moore, actually at 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:22.960 that time it was fifty more Marabell you know, if 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:25.760 you don't mind me bringing that up, that's what the 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:29.080 full name was to talk about hyphenated, right, talk about hyphenated. 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:31.719 But yes, that's who I met back then, and I 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:33.760 was with another comedian at the time, and they with 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:36.719 Jonathan Martin. Him and I we kind of traveled together 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:39.640 and we joined your class, and it was in Manhattan. 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:42.040 You were right there on Eighth Avenue, right across from 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:44.720 Madison Square Garden, one of those hotels. I forget which one, 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:47.120 but that's where we went to meet you. And we 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:50.960 had a wonderful experience in your class. It was about comedy, 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:52.880 but you were teaching us how to be in the moment, 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:56.440 how to you know, have stage presence, and all of 0:04:56.480 --> 0:05:00.000 those things that come with acting skills. It comes naturally, 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:02.039 I guess as an actor you have that stage present 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:06.720 but for comedians sometimes it's such a one on one delivery. 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:07.880 Between you and the audience that we forget that. 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:10.480 Sometimes that stage is a big place and you have 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:13.920 to move around sometimes and and you know, make your 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:16.560 eyes bigger, or just adjust yourself a little bit more 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:18.440 to get the lass that you want. 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:21.479 So that was my first encounter with you, and I've 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:22.360 never forgotten you. 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:26.000 I always followed you, always to see what you were doing, 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:28.560 directing the different things you were doing. I said, Wow, 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:31.200 one day the last time I met you, when we 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:32.119 cross paths again. 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:34.000 You were in the black. 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:38.039 Box and we're doing you were doing it with Malik Yoba. 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:42.839 Was there, Yes, I came there with another writer director 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:45.800 named Michelle England. We came to your show there and 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:48.560 we got to see my friend John Laster, the other comedian, 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:51.120 John Laster. You know John, You love John. He was 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:51.719 a great guy. 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:54.359 Woman the cloud for you and and that was my 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:57.200 other time catching up with you right away, like in person. 0:05:57.360 --> 0:05:59.560 And ever since then, I've just been following you here 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:03.320 on your cast. What you're doing an amazing job. Congratulations 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:04.400 to thank you. 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:10.159 So you know that I'm always champion actors. 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:13.360 I mean, I kind of my career started with comedians. 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:16.479 The thing that I love about comedians is that you 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:19.960 guys don't get a chance to exercise the dramatic muscle, 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:21.480 so you. 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:23.360 Know, and I feel like. 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:30.720 Our best actors are comedians, Our best dramatic actors are comedians. 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:31.920 And so. 0:06:33.440 --> 0:06:37.800 It's just I want to start with comedy because you know, 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:41.800 that's a tough gig. Man Like we can talk about 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:46.640 TV and philm we can talk about haapp into a 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:50.440 large or even an intimate group of people that you. 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:55.600 Don't know, and I don't know them at all. Bunny Bone, Yeah, 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:56.720 that's not an easy job. 0:06:56.760 --> 0:07:00.479 You are correct. I've been at it since. 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:03.240 Like nineteen ninety A ball parked right around nineteen ninety 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:05.479 is when I first started getting on stage. I was 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:07.479 from New Jersey. I live in New York now, but 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:09.320 you know New Jersey right across the water. 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:10.360 But I grew up. 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:14.040 Under the Bob Summoners and they had the Peppermint Lounge 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:17.040 and Bill Bellamy was hosting, and I didn't realize what 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:17.840 I was walking into. 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:19.440 I just wanted to get on stage. I wanted to 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:20.840 be a part of that big moment. 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:23.680 And my very first time on stage, I had a 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:25.960 great set. It was my first time on stage. I 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:28.000 had a great set. So I was like, Wow, maybe 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:28.960 this is I'm a natural. 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:31.320 Right, I'm thinking I'm a natural. So I come back 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:33.160 two weeks later. I'm all excited. 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:34.960 I come back two weeks later and I tell a guy, hey, 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:36.760 I got some new material. I want to try again. 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:38.680 I went up there and I did not have such 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:40.600 a great time. So then that let me know that, Okay, 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:42.920 you can't take this for granted. That's for one You 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:44.600 cannot take these moments for granted. 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:45.840 You think that it's just easy. 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:47.960 You're going to jump on stage and just everybody's going 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:49.120 to love you willy nilly. 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:51.160 It doesn't work that way. You have to really put 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:52.000 effort into it. 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:55.280 You're writing, you have to shorten some things, take words out, 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:56.640 AdWords in, you. 0:07:56.520 --> 0:07:58.920 Know, to make the joke pop sometimes, you know. 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:04.280 So let me ask you, because again this is to me. 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:11.400 You master this craft, like you know, this is live, 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:17.360 This isn't cut playback line, this is once you by yourself. 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:22.600 You can't blame nobody else, nobody else on that and 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:28.400 touching and you. The other thing is I feel like 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:32.959 I saw you at when you said, Bob Sumner, they 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:35.760 had the first annual awards. 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:38.559 It was in Harlem, Paul. 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:42.319 I was there, Okay, yeah, I was at that event. 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:43.880 I was there at that event. 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:47.560 I didn't perform at that particular event, but I was 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:50.520 at the world famous Apollo is where I actually performed 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:53.480 at the Apollo a couple of years back now, probably 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:54.760 about three years or so back. 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:56.680 But it was a wonderful experience. 0:08:56.679 --> 0:08:59.560 Bob Summer once again put me in position to the 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:02.200 name the Marquis. You know, the whole nine yards, you know, 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:05.640 burn the holloway right there on the I was in heaven, 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:07.920 you know what I mean. As a comedian, that's one 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:10.640 place you definitely want to do a great job, you know, 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:13.800 at the Apollo, and I've been fortunate enough to travel 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:14.560 around with them. 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:18.000 You know her very well. Talent the comedian from New York, 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:19.760 I know that's your guy. 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:23.000 I know, Talent from Boston comedy clubs. 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:24.200 That's where I met him too. 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:27.720 Yeah, that's where I started my career basically under his wing. 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:29.800 He took me to the Mohigan Son and he took 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:32.080 me around to different places, and he gave me that 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:34.120 little bit of confidence I needed to like kind of 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:36.120 go out on my own and just start doing shows. 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:38.360 And then he still kept me in his loop, but 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:39.439 I was building my. 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:40.480 Own report with people. 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:44.080 You know, this business becomes more about relationships than you imagine. 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:46.040 It's always about relationships at. 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:46.520 The end of the day. 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:48.280 So if you think you're going to go somewhere and 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:50.400 treat people like not so nice and think it's going 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:52.640 to you're gonna be good to know you have to. 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:54.920 Be very mindful of your behavior out here. 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:56.960 Even if if you think you're a celebrity or not, 0:09:57.000 --> 0:09:59.160 whatever you think you are, you still have a code 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:01.160 of conduct in this business. 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:04.120 I want to piggyback off of that because that's beautiful, 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:07.679 a code of conduct, that's so beautiful. And this is 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:12.440 a business as well, and your reputation precedes you. Someone 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:15.319 said to me the other day, it's who you know, 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:18.640 and I said, I've been in this business over forty years. 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:20.960 I can say I know a lot of people. But 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:23.319 if they don't know me, they're not picking. 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:27.679 Up the phone. So it's who knows you how to 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:29.359 respond to you. 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:36.320 And people like Purnell, I'm an acting coach, right, celebrity 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:40.480 acting coach or in that title, but I am a 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:44.520 celebrity acting coach. Was on the set just the month 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:48.400 of May, on two different sets with two different clients, 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:54.160 and oh my god, so blessed had such a great time. However, 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:59.960 what I'm noticing, and you know, just in transitioning into 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:02.600 his acting career, you guys, because I told you he 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:06.040 was multi hyphenated, and he's a writer. 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:07.280 You heard that too. 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:10.720 He's a writer, he writes his jokes, he's just an 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:15.080 overall creative being. But the pressures do you feel the 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:19.400 pressures since COVID being on sets where you have one 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:25.040 take maybe two where it's moving quite fast. Because I 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:29.000 was on Lifetime, which was fifteen days. 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:33.200 And it was doing and you got one take maybe 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:38.240 two right, yes, even the leads. And then I was on. 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:44.280 Naked Gun and I was coaching Buster Rhymes and he 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:47.640 had eight to ten takes on some wow. 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:50.280 Okay okay. 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:54.240 So I honestly a lot of things that I've done 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:57.640 so far in film, I haven't had to worry too 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:02.240 much of the takes right. I'm pretty much fortunate for 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:04.800 me every project that I've done so far, I've had 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:07.400 people reach out to me based on my pastwork. 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:09.880 Right, I have an audition for very long things. 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:12.199 I have not auditioned for very many things, but I've 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:16.080 been in about maybe eight major projects that I feel 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:17.120 are good for my career. 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:19.080 You know, things that helped me as an actor. 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:22.160 I started off with stage plays, like like almost I 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:24.920 think most actors start off with stage plays because it 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:27.000 gives you that in the moment, you can't go back, 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:29.280 there's no you know, there's no mistakes. You know you 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:31.160 have to get it right. And that's one thing that 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:33.240 trains your mind to be on point. 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:35.040 I loved it. I was in. 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:38.240 My first stage play was with a woman named Stats Cordero. 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:40.959 She wrote a stage play called Poor Girl, Rich Girl, 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:42.760 and we did that play for. 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:43.559 About three years. 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:45.720 We went up and down the East Coast, taking it 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:48.720 to different cities and where, you know, working out craft 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:52.200 and it was such a wonderful experience. It led to 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:54.920 me getting into film, which I thought film was easy 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:56.960 because like, wow, you get a chance to do it over. 0:12:57.240 --> 0:13:02.359 Really, I love all out line to the script. 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:05.160 Supervisor right, People do that right. 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:08.959 And so I was so into the stage world that 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:11.320 I was ended up being the guy with the one take. 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:13.240 They didn't have to do two and three and four 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:15.760 takes because I already knew that we need to nail 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:17.439 this thing. We get it right if we get it 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:20.120 right the first time. Sometimes they just want one for safety, 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:20.320 you know. 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:23.600 But if you get it right the first time, they're. 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:25.200 Like, Okay, let's move on, let's keep going, you know 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:27.199 what I mean, Let's not waste any more time on that. 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:29.280 And so I've been very fortunate. 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:32.720 I started off with a guy named Saladin Nork in 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:37.120 a film called Nicknames. It's an independent project, but my 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:41.120 character I literally had two minutes on screen right when 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:43.160 I mean when they you know, when you see the Melbury, 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:45.960 I'm literally on screen only about two minutes, but it 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:50.160 was an impact of two minutes. We really remember my character. 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:52.360 When the movie was over, They're like, hey, Uncle Boom, 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:56.440 that's calling me Uncle Boom like and that meant so 0:13:56.559 --> 0:13:58.559 much to me. And I was so I was so 0:13:58.640 --> 0:14:01.240 grateful for that two minutes the screen time when I 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:03.200 actually saw it, right, I mean, it took longer to 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:04.280 film it, but you know, with the. 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:05.520 Editing and everything right. 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:09.520 And then my very next project, I kid you not, 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:10.319 I got. 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:11.040 A leading role. 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:15.560 I was a character named Shapiro, Rudy Shapiro, in something 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:16.480 called bum Rush. 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:19.600 The series. It was a group of from Poor Girl, 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:20.080 Rich Girl. 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:22.560 The same actors from Poor Girl, Rich Girls are in 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:27.160 bum Rush, Yes, and dre Foreman and J. V. Simmons, 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:29.480 they were two of the characters from Poor Girl, Rich Girl. 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:32.200 And they wrote bum Rush and they thought of my 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:35.640 character and they said, we want you to play Rudy Shapiro. 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:38.120 We don't want anybody else to play this character. And 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:40.520 everybody else had to audition this and that, but like 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:44.360 I said, they just chose me, and luckily, I'm very 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:46.520 proud of the work we did there. Even though, like 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:48.120 I said, all of the work I've done thus far 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:50.920 has been pretty much independent projects. The only thing I've 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:53.880 done that was not like independent was too commercials that 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:54.360 I got. 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:57.200 You know, I had what is it? It was like, 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:00.760 get your New York sports here. It's like, I forget. 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:03.120 I think it's something with the older New York sports. 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:06.080 I was one of the Jets characters right, one of 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:09.520 the sports teams and air for about air for about 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:12.520 one year on different programs, and you know, it was 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:15.480 very nice. Yeah, I was very happy. And then I 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:18.640 got a b Et commercial right after that. It was 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:21.560 just a b Et They had that like a where 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:23.960 you can uh watch it on your on your phone, 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:25.440 Like I said, I you have Bet at the house. 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:26.840 You can now watch it on your phone. It was 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:27.680 like one of those things. 0:15:27.720 --> 0:15:29.720 And that was the second commercial I ever got, and 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:31.240 that was pretty much national. 0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:33.960 So I was very excited. You know, this is all 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:36.040 happening very fast for me. So I was like, wow, 0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:40.240 this is great, you know. And even when I well. 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:42.880 I was going to say it just goes. I wanted 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:47.480 to go back to you know, you said, you had 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:51.440 two minutes on screen. It's not about quantity, it's about 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:54.640 the quality of work that people resonate with. 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:58.360 And so you know, I feel like that was a 0:15:58.440 --> 0:15:59.480 confirmation to. 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:04.960 You from the cast, like we need more, not only 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:07.680 to be more a character, we need to develop a 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:12.600 storyline so that is accredited to your work and continue. 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:16.440 That's why you continue to work out here. I wanted 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:19.000 to and this is what I wanted. 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:21.160 To talk to you about because. 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:26.800 The other things that I will always remember, regardless of 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:29.200 the fact that we don't see each other all the time, 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:34.320 every time I see you, even on Instagram, you are smile. 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:37.480 I've never ever forgotten your smile. 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:44.400 You resonate love and light and energy with you. 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:46.920 Just actors, there's a lot of. 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:50.880 Comedians and actors that he's helped in his path as well. 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:55.720 So known in the industry by so many people, and 0:16:57.120 --> 0:16:59.920 that's important because at the end of the day, the 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:05.200 truth is, we will not remember everybody's credits, will remember 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:10.080 this type of person that they were, And like you said, relationships, 0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:13.560 that means something that matters. 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:16.840 One hundred percent. Yeah, one hundred percent, it does. 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:20.919 I'll tell you I was gonna say piggyback on the 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:26.320 relationship thing. I did some work for a woman. The 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:28.760 project never got completed. That's something I want to talk 0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:31.320 about when we go as actors. Sometimes you give your 0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:33.680 all and you're hoping to get something for your real 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:36.879 or to see the project and it's finished phases and 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:39.879 some people never finished the project. It just you know, 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:42.080 there's nothing you can really do about that. Things happen, 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:45.000 They lose it. Something happened to the hard drive, something 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:46.440 happened with the sound wasn't right. 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:47.280 We got to go back. 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:49.440 So some things you're not going to always get every 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:51.480 bit of the work that you put out there. But 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:55.280 that one person who couldn't finish the project, she referred 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:57.720 me to someone else and that led to me working 0:17:57.720 --> 0:17:59.720 with this person for almost seven years now. 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:02.359 We started a show. It was called Yeah. 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:05.560 It was a show called Juicy the series and a 0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:08.159 young lady named Zoe Taylor. She's the writer and her 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:11.840 father is the cameraman. He films it, edits. It puts 0:18:11.880 --> 0:18:14.760 everything together. Their mother, father and daughter, they all do 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:17.400 this together. And I was so happy to meet them. 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:17.720 Yeah. 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:20.159 I never worked with a family of people that you know, 0:18:20.160 --> 0:18:22.600 they knew. The daughter had a talent for writing, and 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:25.160 she had a passion for film. So the father said, 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:27.119 you know what, let me learn how to work this camera. 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:29.720 And they all learned the business as they were going, 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:32.800 and we're still doing it like. Juicy the series is 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:35.920 in its seventh season now, and I have a spin 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:36.480 off show. 0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:40.000 Yes well, Juicy right now is on too B TV. 0:18:40.560 --> 0:18:44.880 It's on too B TV all sixth series, all six seasons, 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:48.440 and season seven will be coming out after my other show, 0:18:48.480 --> 0:18:49.480 Bishop and Cheney. 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:51.840 Season two comes out this Thursday. 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:55.760 And after Bishop and Cheney, they're gonna put season seven 0:18:55.800 --> 0:18:57.520 of Juicy the series out. 0:18:57.720 --> 0:19:01.240 Oh my god, I am still watching its Juicy the series. 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:02.280 I love it. Thank you. 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:05.680 Yes, my character and Juicy is the series. I play 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:08.560 an FBI agent. I play a character named Frank Bishop. 0:19:08.880 --> 0:19:10.960 Yeah, and that's how I got My spin off show 0:19:11.080 --> 0:19:14.960 is called Bishop and Cheney, which is partner right, so 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:18.359 we got season one is already on TV, and because 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:21.040 we started our fan base on YouTube, we're gonna we're 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:24.520 gonna start showing season two on YouTube first because we 0:19:24.560 --> 0:19:26.800 have a fan base already from YouTube, and then once 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:29.360 in complete there, then we're gonna take it back. 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:31.040 To to B for season two put it on to 0:19:31.200 --> 0:19:31.800 B as well. 0:19:32.760 --> 0:19:35.440 Now I need to let the audience know one the too, 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:40.520 B is getting money and financing projects. So I feel 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:43.359 like that's a very very smart idea. 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:47.320 For to be and you. 0:19:46.280 --> 0:19:51.960 You know, I just I love the fact that the 0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:53.880 universe is confirming to. 0:19:53.800 --> 0:19:56.479 You who you are as the tax Man. 0:19:56.640 --> 0:19:59.600 It's like, Okay, I have this series Juicy, and then 0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:02.399 to the spin off of my character to get but 0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:06.200 new so they can't get enough. They want to see more, 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:09.800 and there's nothing like wanting to see more. 0:20:10.000 --> 0:20:13.840 So one hundred percent, Ever since I've been watching TV, 0:20:14.040 --> 0:20:16.040 right when I when I really don't know, let's say, 0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:17.000 let's say Eddie Murphy. 0:20:17.040 --> 0:20:18.560 That's one of my favorite comedies, right. 0:20:18.560 --> 0:20:20.080 And then when he got his first movie that you 0:20:20.160 --> 0:20:23.440