1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: I Am all In. 2 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 2: I Am all In with Scott Patterson, an iHeartRadio podcast. 3 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all In podcast one 4 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: on one interviews. We're going to speaking with Molina Delkicch. 5 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: Let me tell you a little bit about her. She 6 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: is a senior staff editor for Breaking News. She's worked 7 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: at The New York Times since twenty eighteen. Her roles 8 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: include newsletters, business desk, the newsroom, print hub, and contributing 9 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: to coverage of the coronavirus pandemic. She has written an 10 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: article on editorial that appeared in The New York Times 11 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: talking about Gidmore Girls. Fascinating article, Melina, what inspired you 12 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: to write it now? 13 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I've always loved Gilmore Girls. Every once in 14 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 3: a while you get to write about something that you 15 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 3: really love and are interested in, and so this was 16 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 3: a fun one for me, and I thought it was 17 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,839 Speaker 3: interesting that with viewership data that had been coming out, 18 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 3: it's still one of the most popular shows across streaming, 19 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 3: both by Netflix's numbers and Nielsen, which is the ratings firm. 20 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 3: If listeners don't know that rates, you know TV and 21 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 3: movies and streaming popularity, and it's still one of by 22 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 3: far the most popular things that people like to watch, 23 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 3: and so with my own interest in it and that 24 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 3: I wanted to see why it's still so popular because it, 25 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 3: as you know, officially wrapped in two thousand and seven, 26 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 3: besides a year in the Life reboot. 27 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: And what conclusions did you draw? 28 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 3: Well, I think it was a mix of conclusions. I 29 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 3: think people love the show because it's feel good and 30 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 3: it makes you feel kind of and fuzzy and people, 31 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 3: you know, people I interviewed, like like Brenda Maybin, the 32 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 3: set costume designer who who said that, you know, people 33 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 3: like that there's no violence, there's no there's nothing that's unsolvable, 34 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 3: and it's going to stress you out about watching it. 35 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 3: It's comforting, but at the same time it is you know, deep, 36 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 3: there's deeply intertwined relationships, there's really interesting characters who are 37 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 3: multi layered and complex and and you know, so it's 38 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 3: it's that fun, fun, lightheartedness, but at the same time 39 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 3: it's there's there's some real depth there and some heart 40 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 3: to it. 41 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: That family dynamic is very powerful, isn't it. Anybody can 42 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: relate to it the mother daughter tension. Yes, And well, 43 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: as you said, the byline you are on your seventh 44 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: or eight time watching. Why have you watched so many times? 45 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: Why do you think people watch so many times? 46 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 3: That's a great question. So for me, I started watching 47 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 3: when I was in college actually, so, you know, similar 48 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 3: to a lot of people, after the show had concluded 49 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 3: it's run on TV, it was on Netflix and a 50 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 3: friend of mine said, you know, you have to watch this, 51 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 3: You're going to love it. And after that first time, 52 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 3: I was kind of hooked, and I was like, I 53 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 3: want to see it again. I feel like I missed something. 54 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 3: I you know, I want to when when things are stressful, 55 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 3: I want to have it on in the background, or 56 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 3: you know, just rewatch and find things I missed last time. 57 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 3: And I think for for people, I think even though 58 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 3: I put that I've rewatched it seven or eight times, 59 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 3: I think that's actually low for the Gilmore Girls audience. 60 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 3: I've found people have left comments on the article on 61 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 3: social media and on the article page itself, and my 62 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 3: friends have reached out that there's way higher numbers. People 63 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 3: are watching it dozens of times, and I think it's 64 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 3: you know, I think it's because it's it's that comfort. 65 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 3: It's there's also even a psychological aspect to it. I 66 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 3: talked to a clinical psychologist that rewatching a show you 67 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 3: love that makes you feel good and you know how 68 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 3: it's going to end, it makes it can actually, you know, 69 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 3: improve your mood. It can it can help you when 70 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 3: you're feeling lonely or or you know, any any tough 71 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 3: feelings in a stressful time. It can actually help those feelings. 72 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 4: You know. 73 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: I also think it it contributes to keeping high culture. 74 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 1: I think it's so smart that and I think that's 75 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: one of the primary reasons people rewatch it so often, 76 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: because there it's so fast, that fast paced dialogue, and 77 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: there's so many obscure and arcane cultural references that people 78 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: don't get them right away. They get some, and I 79 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: get some, and then I go back and I, boy, 80 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: you know, say to myself, Amy and Dan are very 81 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: well read, and you know they're they're plucking these references 82 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: out of everything that they love and read. And I 83 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: think it's comforting to have something of quality that is 84 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 1: keeping the culture or trying to set a bar higher 85 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 1: and not talking down to an audience, not dumbing a 86 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: show down for an audience. I think it really elevates 87 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: people and it gives people a lot of hope in 88 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 1: that sense that at least there's something on television that 89 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: doesn't insult me. Yeah, and insult my intelligence. It's it's 90 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: demanding me to keep up, and people love that challenge. 91 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 3: I totally agree. 92 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: Well, you're also rewatching, as you said, it could be 93 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: a healthy coping mechanism. Mechanisms life gets stressful. When do 94 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: you tune in to watch this show? Is it in 95 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: you stressful times or just any time? Do you have 96 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: it on in the background all of the time. 97 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 3: That's a great question. I think I've found that I 98 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 3: gravitate toward Gilmore Girls in the fall, which a lot 99 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 3: of people I talked to for this article said the 100 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 3: same basically, And the viewership data supports that that it's 101 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 3: the viewer is a little bit higher in the fall 102 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 3: and winter months because it is kind of that cozy 103 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 3: you want to go to Luke Steiner and get your 104 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 3: coffee and like all the fun sweaters that are in 105 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 3: the in the you know, costuming of the show and 106 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 3: the festivals and the so it makes you feel like 107 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 3: fall and winter and these cozy vibes. So I find 108 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 3: myself watching it in those times here in New York. 109 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 3: It gets gloomy sometimes in the winter, and I find 110 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 3: it really cozy and helpful, but also definitely, you know, 111 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 3: in stressful times or if I'm in a in a 112 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 3: new place, you know, traveling for work or something, it's 113 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 3: it's kind of comforting. I will turn to it in 114 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 3: those times and have it on, like, Okay, this is 115 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 3: something I know and something I feel good watching. 116 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's almost as if you are able to instead 117 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: of picking up a classic novel that you love, you 118 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: can just turn that on and you're going to get 119 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: the same kind of almost the same kind of quality. 120 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: You don't feel like you're watching TV. You don't feel 121 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: like you're wasting your time or it's just dead time. 122 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: You know, it's like I'm learning something here, and this 123 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: is this is wholly engaging. So you talked about the 124 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: first time you watched it was in college. Where'd you 125 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: go to college? 126 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 3: I went to Georgetown in DC. 127 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: Oh you went to Georgetown. 128 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 4: Oh? 129 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: My, one of my best buddies went to Georgetown. I 130 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: grew Paul. He was just over here the other day 131 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: telling me Georgetown stories. By the way, And so you 132 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: were in college, do you remember the moment you watched it? 133 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: Describe the day. Do you remember the vivid detail about 134 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: the first time you discovered it. 135 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 3: I do remember. I remember my friend Maddie and I 136 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 3: texted her when I was published this article to say, 137 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 3: thanks for turning me on to this wonderful show. And 138 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 3: I was I was staying on campus over the summer working. Basically, 139 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 3: you could work at campus job and it'd give you 140 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 3: free housing in DC for the summer, so it was 141 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 3: it was a pretty sweet deal. And I had some 142 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 3: downtime between these jobs I was working, and I would 143 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 3: put it on and campus is a little quieter in 144 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 3: the summer, you know, not the kids aren't there. And 145 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 3: I remember putting it on and just getting so quickly 146 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 3: wrapped up in all of the character's stories and in 147 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 3: the beautiful relationship between Rory and Laura l I and 148 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 3: and the fun you know references, and I remember like 149 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 3: I would like pause it sometimes and be like, wait, 150 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 3: what is that like that reference that they just said, 151 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 3: I need to go look it up? And yeah, and 152 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 3: I remember, and you know, I'm a journalist, so there's 153 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 3: obviously it was a fun kind of parallel that I 154 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 3: saw someone trying to start a journalism career or a 155 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 3: young a young woman trying to go into that world, 156 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 3: and I was going into that too, So it's fun 157 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 3: to relate to someone on screen. 158 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: Shaw, Yeah, perfect for you, Absolutely right in your whalehouse. 159 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. 160 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, as you said, Rory is an aspiring journalist, 161 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: so you obviously connected with her character the most. To 162 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: she your favorite character. 163 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 3: That's such a tough question. It's oh, man, I love 164 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 3: all of the characters so much at this point, and 165 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 3: I don't. I do feel like at the beginning I 166 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 3: really related to her and probably was drawn to watching 167 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 3: because of her character and Laura I, but I really 168 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 3: love all that. Recently I've been I was talking to 169 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 3: a friend the other day about how I really love 170 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 3: Paris Galer's character. And I know that the first time 171 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 3: you watch it as a you know, as a new viewer, 172 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,719 Speaker 3: you're kind of like you might be turned off by 173 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 3: some of the things that she says. She's kind of 174 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 3: you know, it can be it can be abrasive as 175 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 3: a character, but then then you just kind of, I think, 176 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 3: rewatching it can kind of fall in love with her 177 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 3: at moments where she just she just says the funniest 178 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 3: thing ever. And but I mean, but yeah, I just 179 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 3: love I mean, everybody in the town of Stars hollow 180 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 3: just so great. 181 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was my initial reaction because it's the whole 182 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: point of podcast. I'd never watched the show, so I 183 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: didn't really know the show. And yeah, I would talk 184 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 1: about the need for Paris to have intensive therapy and 185 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: to not be in the mainstream. But she has grown 186 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: on me. There have been a lot of moments where 187 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: I just you know, throw my head back and laugh. Yeah, 188 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: and she's quite endearing at times, so it's a playing 189 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: those extremes. Do you have and I cautioned to ask 190 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: you this, and you don't have to be honest, do 191 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: you have any career parallels to her storyline? Paris Is storyline? 192 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 3: Oh to Paris. Yeah, well Paris, I you know, that's 193 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 3: that's a hard one because I mean she was in 194 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 3: a different career path. She ended up being like what 195 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 3: like a combination lawyer doctor or something, which which was like, oh, 196 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 3: of course, you know, Paris Scholler went down that path. 197 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 3: But I don't know. I you know, I do feel 198 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 3: like there's there's a little bit of that that Paris 199 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 3: ambition or spark in a lot of people, but most 200 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 3: of us don't push that hard as her character. Did 201 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 3: you know? But but yeah, I can't say I quite 202 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 3: approach situations the way she does. 203 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 4: Well, that's probably a good thing. 204 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: When did you know that you wanted to be a journalist? 205 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 3: It took some time of figuring it out and trying 206 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 3: a lot of different paths. I think I probably stressed 207 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 3: out my parents in college because I can't. I switched 208 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 3: my major like four times, and it was you know, 209 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 3: trying out econ, trying out different languages. But I always 210 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 3: in the background had that love of writing and also 211 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 3: was just always the news and slowly realizing that instead 212 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 3: of you know, being involved in it. As a school 213 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 3: in DC, a lot of people want to get involved 214 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 3: in the government, politics, things like that, and I just 215 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 3: kind of kept thinking, I don't want to be in it. 216 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 3: I want to be like observing it and you know, 217 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 3: helping helping write kind of the historical you know, record 218 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 3: about this stuff. And so that's how I made my way. 219 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 3: But it took a lot of small decisions and figuring 220 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 3: out what I what I needed. 221 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: And boy, I tell you Washington, Yeah, the time to 222 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: be a journalist. Yeah, and we won't open up that 223 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: can of worms. 224 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 3: But yeah, to be fair, now, I don't really deal 225 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 3: with any politics or government news in my job. 226 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: Probably healthiest. So The New York Times plays a big part. 227 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 1: In season seven, Rory turns down a job with a 228 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 1: new newspaper in Providence, wrote on because she's holding on 229 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:09,119 Speaker 1: to well, she's holding out for the rest and fellowship 230 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 1: at the New York Times. What'd you think of this decision? 231 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 3: I was so with her in that season. I remember 232 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 3: just feeling the pressure the uncertainty of that, especially watching 233 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 3: it in college and in the years right after college, 234 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 3: because it is so I think with any career, it's 235 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 3: kind of you have these moments where the timing doesn't 236 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 3: work out the way you want it to. You don't 237 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 3: get to find out everything you need to find out. 238 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 3: You might have a job offer, but one that you 239 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 3: you know, and there's a deadline for it, but one 240 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 3: that you want more. And so I felt I felt 241 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 3: like it was a very very thoughtful and good representation 242 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 3: of what that's like as a young journalist. I think, 243 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 3: you know, I think she obviously like that. It was 244 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 3: a difficult time for her character. I remember she ended 245 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 3: up then not getting the New York Times fellowship, right, 246 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 3: If I'm remembering correctly that she had turned basically was 247 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 3: out of a job with both of those, but then 248 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 3: she ended up finding something else, and I don't remember 249 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 3: if it was right after that, but she ended up 250 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 3: going to work for an upstart publication of some sort 251 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 3: covering the election campaign. And I thought that was kind 252 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 3: of you know, I thought I related to that, because 253 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 3: sometimes it seems like nothing is working out, and you know, 254 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 3: you don't know like where your path is going to lead, 255 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 3: and even though it's early in your career, you have 256 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 3: these moments of struggle and the timing is just not 257 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 3: working out. But then something does work out, and it's 258 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 3: kind of it seemed like it was sort of a 259 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 3: great fit for her as an ending of that show, 260 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 3: and it seemed like it ended on a really hopeful 261 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 3: note where she was going to go travel and right 262 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 3: for this new publication and her work was going to 263 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 3: be valued, and so I think she ended up making 264 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 3: the right call for herself. 265 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: And you're talking about the end of season seven or 266 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: the Netflix. 267 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 3: Episodes the end of season Steven, Okay, am I confusing that? 268 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 3: I remember there was a she I thought at the 269 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 3: end of the show that she went to go work 270 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 3: for like the kind of upstart digital publication to cover 271 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 3: the election. 272 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: Okay, so let's talk about the Netflix episodes a little bit. 273 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: As regards Rory, were you disappointed that her journalism career 274 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: didn't pan out. Did you think it was realistic when 275 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: she was showing so much promise? 276 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 3: You know, I was. I think the first time I 277 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 3: watched that, I was a little disappointed in that we 278 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 3: had been with Rory and watched her be so ambitious 279 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 3: and so in such a go getter, and I had 280 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 3: dreamed of this her whole life. There's that moment with 281 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 3: Christian I'm on poor and then she kind of it 282 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 3: didn't take off, maybe the way I would have predicted 283 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 3: when I was, you know, twenty two, and I'm like, oh, 284 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 3: I want this for Rory. But I think it's realistic 285 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 3: in that a lot of people kind of you know, 286 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 3: don't have a constant, full time gig in this industry 287 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 3: and a lot of industries. So I think, you know, 288 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 3: she was freelancing for The New Yorker and and she 289 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 3: was doing some really great work, but it's it's kind 290 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 3: of representative of the sort of you know, sometimes unusual 291 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 3: schedules and gigs that journalists can have. 292 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: Give us your opinion on how the show portrayed journalism itself. 293 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 3: I remember in the A Year in the Life, there 294 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 3: was a moment where where Rory got a little too 295 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 3: close to a source. I think I'm remembering that correctly 296 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 3: and that that is not uh, that that's that's not 297 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 3: a super accurate portrayal of something that would be permissible 298 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 3: in a in a news job. But I remember the 299 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 3: rest of it feeling pretty accurate. That her her role 300 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 3: is like an intern in the newsroom that that Logan 301 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 3: Logan's dad owned, where she's just running around trying to 302 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,719 Speaker 3: do everything she can and and trying to get noticed 303 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 3: a little bit that that seemed very accurate. And also 304 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 3: her writing for the paper, and I remember these moments 305 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 3: of her trying to stand out while not not you know, 306 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 3: insulting people around campus with her with her work and 307 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 3: finding that difficult balance of you know, trying not to 308 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 3: be a jerk but being really like accurate and honest. 309 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 3: I felt like there there were a lot of these 310 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 3: like kind of the early sometimes you know, things that 311 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 3: you have to really think through in a journalism career. 312 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: Were are there any without naming names, are there any 313 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: minsh of hunts Burgers at the New York Times. 314 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 3: No, no, fortunately, not. 315 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: Have you ever encountered a personality like that? And in 316 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 1: your years of being a journalist, Oh. 317 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think as a young as a young woman journalist, 318 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 3: you definitely come across I mean, anyone, as a young 319 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 3: journalist in your career, you come across personalities that are 320 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 3: you know that everybody has that moment where someone tells 321 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 3: them you're not going to make it, You're not good enough, 322 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 3: You're you know X and Y. And I definitely had 323 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 3: that when I was in college. And yeah, and I actually, 324 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 3: you know, I feel like I hear a lot of 325 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 3: these types of stories that people have in different careers, 326 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 3: but also in journalism. And maybe it's just because it's 327 00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 3: so competitive at times that but you know, hopefully you 328 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 3: you learn from it, but you don't take it too seriously. 329 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 3: And I think that's I remember that's what Rory did. 330 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 3: That she kind of she went back to journalism and 331 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 3: went back to Yale. 332 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. What does the show mean to you? 333 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 3: It's a it's a big answer. It's I really love 334 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 3: the show. It's it's just one of those things that 335 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 3: I'm like, how is this so good? It's I could 336 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 3: rewatch it ten more times and I probably will over 337 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 3: the course of you know, however many years that takes. 338 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 3: And it's it's just, you know, supported me in difficult times. 339 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 3: It's made me laugh, it's you know, comforting, and I 340 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 3: love it and I love how much it means to 341 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 3: so many other people too. 342 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is quite a phenomenon. 343 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 3: Uh. 344 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 1: It really has become this, uh, this iconic piece of 345 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: art that that that is woven into the fabric of 346 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: this country. And it's I don't know, it's sort of 347 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:09,719 Speaker 1: taken a place in in in entertainment culture that is 348 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: completely unexpected and something I don't think anybody so common, right, 349 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 1: I mean, how do you how do you predict this? 350 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: It's uh, it's quite extraordinary. We're going to play a 351 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: little game right now called rapid Fire. Okay, right, uh huh. 352 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: And you don't have to we don't have to be 353 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: fast with us. It doesn't have to be rapid. How 354 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 1: do you like your coffee? 355 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 3: Black? 356 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: Are your Team Logan, Team Jess or Team Dean? 357 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 3: Oh? So hard? I when I was younger, I was 358 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 3: Team Logan because I thought that's where Rory is going 359 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 3: and she she you know, needs someone who who respects 360 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 3: her intellect and her career. But now I'm like, you know, 361 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 3: who's of a jerk sometimes? So maybe I'm maybe I'm 362 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 3: a little bit team just now. 363 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 1: I'm kind of with you on that. You know, I 364 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: was riding the logan wave pretty for a couple of seasons, 365 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 1: but now I think I'm getting back on the jet thing. 366 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 3: I love how it changes for you too. 367 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know it does, because but that's you know, 368 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: a testament to the writing, isn't it. You know, ye 369 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: can flip the fans like that, who's your favorite Gilmore 370 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: Girls couple, Luke and Laurele I or Emily. 371 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 3: And Richard Luke and Laurel I for sure. I think 372 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 3: I wrote in my email responding to your team, like 373 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 3: I was team Luke all the way in the in 374 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 3: the show. And I recently learned that I didn't even 375 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 3: think there was a debate on Laurel I's other romantic partners. 376 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 3: But I was like, no, it's it's Laurea I and Luke. 377 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 1: Right, I I was. I was always uh dumbfounded that 378 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 1: there was even a debate about it. And you know, 379 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: I think the network, as a marketing tool tried to 380 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: engage the base with well, let's you know, let's make 381 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 1: another like is, let's make another contest out of it. 382 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 1: Would you rather work with Michelle or Kirk oh Man? 383 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 3: I love them both, and Kirk is just everywhere, but 384 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 3: he's kind of a goof, So maybe I would have 385 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 3: to say Michelle for the for the competency factor. 386 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 1: What would you order at Luke's Diner? 387 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, if you know, if I only could, 388 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 3: I would get a black coffee in one of the 389 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 3: giant mugs. I would have waffles, waffles, syrup, the whole 390 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 3: the whole thing. And then it, depending on the time 391 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 3: of day. If it's later in the day, We're going burger. Absolutely. 392 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 4: You know. 393 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: I want to ask you about this, what if there 394 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: were a chain of Luke's Diners? Would you go? 395 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred percent? 396 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: Do you think people would go? Do you think that's 397 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: a good idea? 398 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 3: I think that's a great idea. We're always going to 399 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 3: diners here in New York. You know, when you really 400 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 3: get a craving for like good food, that's not that's 401 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 3: not overpriced, that's not overdoing it. It's that you want 402 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 3: a diner, and especially the whole environment of Lukes. It's great. 403 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,199 Speaker 1: You would you like to go to a Lukes Diner 404 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: that is a replica of the TV one or would 405 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: you want it to be more of an experience where 406 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: it's like got really comfortable booths and it's got the 407 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: memorabilia all over the walls, and it's got a room 408 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 1: where you can actually watch the shows and it's you 409 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, it's like a it's it's like 410 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: a comfy, high tech version of Luke's. Uh, that's more 411 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: would be more comfortable than you know, the original diner 412 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 1: because I think do you think people would just sort 413 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: of visit it once or twice if it was like 414 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 1: the original Lukes Dinners chasing after nostalgia, but not come 415 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: back so much? But what do you. 416 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 4: Think about that? 417 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 3: I think that's a good question. I think both would 418 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 3: be popular for sure. But I think you're right that 419 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 3: if you if you wanted to keep coming back and 420 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 3: have something as your go to diner spot, you'd want 421 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 3: the maybe a little bit more comfortable option. 422 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: You'd want all the bells and whistles, you know. Yeah, yeah, 423 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: competitive space anyway. Interesting. Who would you rather hang out with? 424 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: Paris or Lane? 425 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 4: Oh? 426 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 3: Definitely lane definitely. 427 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: Do you play an instrument you could be in your band? 428 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 3: I do? I have a guitar, right, you do. I 429 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 3: started learning guitar in the early pandemic, and then I 430 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 3: grew up playing piano, keyboard. Oh that's great, and so 431 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 3: I would love to there. That was such a fun 432 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 3: plot point for me. Their their band and the whole 433 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 3: growth of their musical life. 434 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 4: Who do you like? 435 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: Who are your Who are you partial to? Who you 436 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: like listening to? 437 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 3: Oh? Musically I love it? Really runs the gamut. I 438 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 3: recently this was so impulsive to me, but I splurged 439 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 3: on Joni Mitchell tickets and oh, there you go, because 440 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 3: she's my absolute favorite of all time. But then also 441 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 3: Beyonce is also my favorite of all time. So it's 442 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 3: kind of like interest really run the game. But I 443 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 3: also love rock and you know, listen to the Ramones. 444 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 3: I feel like, if you live in Brooklyn, you have 445 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 3: to Fleetwood Mac all the good stuff. 446 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I was listening to some Stevie Nick yesterday. 447 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: She's extraordinary. Uh yeah, Joni Mitchell in my youth, big influence. 448 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 1: I loved her, loved those albums. 449 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 4: What a talent, What a talent? 450 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: If if you love piano music. There's a have you 451 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: heard of Keith Jarrett No, Oh, okay, so nineteen seventy five. 452 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: This is a guy who was classically trained. They were 453 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: grooming him for you know, the concert stage and the 454 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: whole thing. He was a child prodigy and he left 455 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 1: it all to play jazz. 456 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 4: Wow. 457 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: He wanted to write his own material and perform his 458 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 1: own material, so he turned into this justice mind blowing artist, 459 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: master of the keyboards. Yeah, so there's something you should 460 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 1: It's going to affect you. It's going to hit you 461 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: really deeply. These songs are really earth shattering. Keith Jarrett 462 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: Coln concert liveko in Germany, Colm, Germany, and it's one 463 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: of the most remarkable pieces of music I've ever heard. 464 00:26:58,359 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 3: Wow, I have to listen. I'm excited. 465 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, so get that. Get that Harvard or Yale, or 466 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: drop out and live in the poolhouse. 467 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 3: Oh oh man. The third option is so tempting now 468 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 3: as a as a burnt out twenty eight year old, 469 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 3: But I think, oh man, both both are such great schools. 470 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 3: I think, you know, I've always wanted to live in 471 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,479 Speaker 3: Boston area, so I would say Harvard if I were 472 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 3: there right now. 473 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, would you rather attend a dar event with Emily 474 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: or a town meeting with Taylor? 475 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 3: Oh, town meeting for sure. That really just sounds like 476 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,360 Speaker 3: I could bring my popcorn. I would be entertained for hours. 477 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: Right, Gilmore Girls, character that you would most want as 478 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: a roommate? 479 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 3: Ooh, Larelei? I think Lorelei. She would be fun. She's not, 480 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 3: you know, so intense, like a like a Paris galer 481 00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 3: or somebody. She you know, would be easy going and 482 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 3: not you know, not too much. 483 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: Chaos, something in your life that you are all in on. 484 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 3: Oh well, since it is Valentine's Day, I'll say my 485 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 3: my relationship, shout out to my boyfriend Sean. And also 486 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 3: we have a little dog. He's a little corgy named Mark, 487 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 3: and so I would say he's the most spoiled dog 488 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 3: in the world. So we're all in on him too. 489 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: Molina has been a pleasure, and your article Gilmore Girls 490 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: is an endless buffet of TV comfort food. I recommend 491 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: everybody reading this article good luck with your journalism career 492 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: going forward. Thank you so much, and keep watching. I 493 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: absolutely will, yes, because I know I will and everybody does, 494 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: and it's it's inevitable isn't it. Yes, anyway, thanks for 495 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: coming on. It was it was great fun. 496 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 3: It was so fun. Thank you so much. 497 00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 4: Set all right, take care, bye. 498 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: Everybody, and don't forget. Follow us on Instagram at I 499 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: Am All In Podcast and email us at Gilmore at 500 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio dot com