WEBVTT - How Fred Newman Built a Maoist Therapy Cult Ft. Andrew

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<v Speaker 1>A zone.

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<v Speaker 2>Media welcome, take it up here. I'm Andrew Sage of

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<v Speaker 2>the Future Channel and Andeurism, and hap been digging into

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<v Speaker 2>political cults there drawn from the work of Dennis Turish

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<v Speaker 2>and Tim move Fourth in their book On the Edge

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<v Speaker 2>Political Cults Left and Right. I've spoken before about the

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<v Speaker 2>cult recruitment process, the contradictory positions held by cult members,

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<v Speaker 2>ideological totalism, and the commonalities of political cults, including rigid

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<v Speaker 2>belief systems, immunity to falsification, authoritarianism, arbitrary leadership, deification of leaders,

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<v Speaker 2>intense activism, and the use of loaded language. If you

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<v Speaker 2>want the details on all that, you can check out

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<v Speaker 2>the first episode in the Political Cult series, or you

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<v Speaker 2>can check out my video on the topic, or you

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<v Speaker 2>can pick up the book on Political Culture yourself. As

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<v Speaker 2>I said, on the Edge Political Cults left and Right. Previously,

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<v Speaker 2>i've touched on the Laruche movement and the United Red

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<v Speaker 2>Army of Japan. Today we'll be looking at another key study,

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<v Speaker 2>this time of the various groups associated with Fred Newmann

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<v Speaker 2>refused politics seamlessly with psychotherapy. Today I'm joined by.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh this is my cue. Oh No, I've been waiting

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<v Speaker 3>for que and I've missed it. It's me a long

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<v Speaker 3>misser of queues. Uh sometimes host of this podcast. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't This guy's name sounds really familiar, but I cannot

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<v Speaker 3>remember what he was up to, so I'm very excited.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, he has some interesting connections, very interesting connections.

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<v Speaker 2>If people want to learn more about him, they can

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<v Speaker 2>of course pick up the book, or they can check

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<v Speaker 2>out Terror, Love and Brainwashing, Attachments and Cults and Titalitarian

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<v Speaker 2>Systems by Alexandra Stein. But anyway, let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 2>Fred Newman was a Korean War veteran who earned a

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<v Speaker 2>PhD in the philosophy of science from Stanford University with

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<v Speaker 2>no formal training in psychology. Newman took a turn towards

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<v Speaker 2>Maoism in the mid nineteen sixties, as one is apt

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<v Speaker 2>to do. In the mid nineteen sixties, in a time

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<v Speaker 2>when the mantra the personal is political was coming into prominence.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a greater interest in fusing personal development and

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<v Speaker 2>political action, so that era bothed new psychotherapies cateringto a

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<v Speaker 2>mass market that sought both happiness and social justice. Psychotherapy

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<v Speaker 2>became something like a secular religion, which of course opened

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<v Speaker 2>it up to Charlatan's who would propagate their innovative therapies

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<v Speaker 2>and gain a following without actually testing or without any

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<v Speaker 2>scrutiny of the effectiveness of the ideas. By nineteen seventy,

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<v Speaker 2>Newman assembled a small collective in Manhattan, sharing an apartment

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<v Speaker 2>on the Upper West Side. By this time post By

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<v Speaker 2>this time, post the collapse to the Students for a

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<v Speaker 2>Democratic Society in the Broaden You Left, and coinciding with

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<v Speaker 2>the fervor of the Cultural Revolution, people were looking for

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<v Speaker 2>a new direction in a time when the psychotherapy bubble

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<v Speaker 2>was growing. Newman, as another of those charismatic therapists, would

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<v Speaker 2>attract a group of individuals who were yeunion for Hope.

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<v Speaker 2>New One's collective was first named if dot dot Dot then,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was indeed a fusion of radical sixties politics

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<v Speaker 2>and the New Age therapy of the seventies. Newman's concept

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<v Speaker 2>of social therapy or crisis normalization blurred the lines between

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<v Speaker 2>therapy and political activities, and the group would give rise

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<v Speaker 2>to the Centers for Change the CFC by nineteen seventy three,

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<v Speaker 2>which proudly identified itself as a Marxist Leninist Maoist organization.

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<v Speaker 2>The communal Roots of Newman's group had cast a cult

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<v Speaker 2>like aura from its inception. Core members were expected to

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<v Speaker 2>leave their jobs, sell their possessions, and sustain themselves through

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<v Speaker 2>activities like fundrais and on street corners, while embracing shared

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<v Speaker 2>living spaces within the group. Now buckle up for a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a crossover episode here, because from nineteen seventy

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<v Speaker 2>three to nineteen seventy four Newman crossed paths with Lyndon LaRouche.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh God, yes, of course he did, mind you. He

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<v Speaker 2>links up with Laruche just after Laruche had completed Operation

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<v Speaker 2>mop Up, So he was just attacking his enemies on

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<v Speaker 2>the left and started shifting right wood if the use

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<v Speaker 2>those terms, and Newman is like, yeah, this is my guy,

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<v Speaker 2>this who I want to link up. So their collaboration

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<v Speaker 2>formed the United Front, comprising of Laruge's National Caucus of

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<v Speaker 2>Labor Committees, the NCLC at Newman's Center for Change, and

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<v Speaker 2>a third group led by Eugenio Parenti Ramos, which later

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<v Speaker 2>transformed into the Communist Party USA Provisional, which I have

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<v Speaker 2>to note. I have to note is distinct from the

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<v Speaker 2>Communist Part USA that most people know about.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think I'm pretty sure there's another. I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 3>sure it's also distinct from the Communist Party USA Revolutionary

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<v Speaker 3>Committee and also the Communist Party USA Provisional Committee. I

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<v Speaker 3>think those are if I'm remembering correctly, those are all

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<v Speaker 3>separate organizations.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes they are. Yeah, Parentes group is actually connected

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<v Speaker 2>with the National Labor fre Federation. So anyway, these joint

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<v Speaker 2>forums were established and activities were coordinated among these groups.

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<v Speaker 2>By nineteen seventy four, in fact, the Center for Change

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<v Speaker 2>disbanded and Newman and his followers merged into the NCLC.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh God, there was sort of a convergence between l

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<v Speaker 2>Arusha and Newman and their perspectives of leadership, contre formulation,

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<v Speaker 2>and the manipulation of membership as Lucia's Apocalypse, Fair Moongarin and

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<v Speaker 2>elitism would merge very well with Newman's use of psychotherapy.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, and you learn this quickly with cult leaders.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't get along well for along with other cult leaders.

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<v Speaker 2>So the fusion with Laruge led to inevitable clashes, while

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<v Speaker 2>within the NCLC, the Newman Group continued its operation and

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<v Speaker 2>tensions eventually reached a breaking point later in August nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>seventy four, Newman and his thirty eight followers left the

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<v Speaker 2>NCLC to established the International Workers Party or IWP, which

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<v Speaker 2>he declared was the vanguard of the work in class.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I love the seventies.

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<v Speaker 2>Indeed still you know Newman's association with Laruche had a

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<v Speaker 2>big impact on his thinking and future development. He aligned

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<v Speaker 2>with a lot of Larusie's ideologies and was just as

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<v Speaker 2>dismissive of various left movements. Even though they split, they

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<v Speaker 2>still shared a distain for common citizens, their group's members,

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<v Speaker 2>and the principles were free society. Yet, despite dismissing most

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<v Speaker 2>left movements and saying that liberalism is fascism, Newman would

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<v Speaker 2>occasionally dip his toes into democratic primaries infortate existing leftist organizations,

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<v Speaker 2>and utilized prominent black leaders to advance his own objectives.

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<v Speaker 2>But I realized I haven't fully explained the focus of

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<v Speaker 2>Newman's ideology. In most cases, cult leaders' ideologies ultimately hinge

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<v Speaker 2>on follow me. I'm the best, but you know they

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<v Speaker 2>have their unique quirks. Hey in there as well. Lucky

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<v Speaker 2>for us, Newman published a book on his ideas the

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<v Speaker 2>same year he parted with Rouge. In nineteen seventy four,

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<v Speaker 2>so the book was called Power and Authority, and he

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<v Speaker 2>basically cooked up a theory about the mind and society.

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<v Speaker 2>They became the gospel for his cult and the ultimate

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<v Speaker 2>manual for keeping his followers in check. According to Newman,

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<v Speaker 2>revolution wasn't just about overthrowing the bourgeoisie. He also had

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<v Speaker 2>to overthrow the bourgeoisie ego inside people's minds. So in

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<v Speaker 2>a sense, we cook in, you know, because you do

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<v Speaker 2>you have to sort of undo that brainwashing that you

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<v Speaker 2>get in a capitalist society. I mean, there's nothing wrong

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<v Speaker 2>there necessarily, but you see, he was taken cues from Marx,

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<v Speaker 2>Lenin and LaRouche, and his solution involved something called the

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<v Speaker 2>proletarian psychotherapy, where the workers of the mind took down

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<v Speaker 2>the rulers of the mind through therapy sessions that would

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<v Speaker 2>attack the bourgeois ego. Of course, he would be the

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<v Speaker 2>one lead in the therapy, because you know, he hated

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<v Speaker 2>Freudian and other psychotherapies as just boosting the bourgeois ego,

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<v Speaker 2>and he especially hated that regular therapy is aimed to

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<v Speaker 2>cut the emotional umbilical cord with the therapist and restore

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<v Speaker 2>a healthy, independent ego. When his social therapy meant to

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<v Speaker 2>build up a forever dependent proletarian ego that would only

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<v Speaker 2>wither away when the proletarian stayed with us away, so

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<v Speaker 2>basically never Newmann's doctrines worked for his purposes, though his

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<v Speaker 2>followers were stuck in this sloop of dependency for over

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five years. He had an additional component his control mechanisms, though.

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<v Speaker 2>He developed a concept called friend or sexuality. So in

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<v Speaker 2>his organizations, casual sexual relationships were arranged where a designated

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<v Speaker 2>friend that you also had sex with monitored and critiqued

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<v Speaker 2>individuals to maintain control. If pregnancies ever arose, they were

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<v Speaker 2>usually told to get abortions. And as for new And himself,

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<v Speaker 2>his inner circle was referred to as his haram or

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<v Speaker 2>his wives, and they served as both trusted lieutenants in

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<v Speaker 2>the administration and trusted lieutenants in the bedroom if you

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<v Speaker 2>dig ah, So yeah, now let's get into those segments

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<v Speaker 2>that we can call Newmann and the FBI sitting in

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<v Speaker 2>the tree essig. Because after the IWP was formed and

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<v Speaker 2>briefly flirted with Marlene Dixon's Democratic Workers' Party, which was

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<v Speaker 2>another cult, Newman ended up contacting the FBI. By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>we are still in nineteen seventy four, very eventful year.

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<v Speaker 2>So what happened was a guy named Jim Rutherford bailed

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<v Speaker 2>on Newman's cult and took the child that was probably

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<v Speaker 2>conceived in the cult with him. But you see, the

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<v Speaker 2>child's mother and Green, who stayed in the cult, and

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<v Speaker 2>she wanted her child back. So Newman recruited two cult

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<v Speaker 2>members that were also lawyers to get the FBI involved

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<v Speaker 2>and finding Rutherford and the child. So the dial of

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<v Speaker 2>the FBI set up a meet in between Green and

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<v Speaker 2>the agents, and then Green spilled a tea that Rutherford

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<v Speaker 2>used to roll with the Weather Underground and also had

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<v Speaker 2>connection to the fugitive named Jane Albert. Fast forward to

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen seventy six and Newman's IWP gets exposed by a

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<v Speaker 2>splinter group for working with the FBI. But instead of

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<v Speaker 2>denying it, Newman pins the blame on Anne Green and

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<v Speaker 2>the two lawyers and basically pretends that they acted on

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<v Speaker 2>their own without his direction, because obviously the man's only

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<v Speaker 2>looking off himself. So that was a fun of a side, right,

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<v Speaker 2>little collaboration with the FBI.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's like if you're going to be a snitch

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<v Speaker 3>at least have like at least have the basic decency

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<v Speaker 3>and self respect to admit that you were the snitch

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<v Speaker 3>and not blameing and on someone else.

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<v Speaker 2>No better cultader would ever do that, though no terrible

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<v Speaker 2>stuff carrying on chronologically. In nineteen seventy seven, Fred Newman

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<v Speaker 2>shifted his focus to the political scene of New York

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<v Speaker 2>City's Upper West Side and basically rebranded his group as

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<v Speaker 2>the New York City Unemployed and Welfare Council. At this point,

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<v Speaker 2>he abandoned the idea of an open vanguard formation and instead,

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<v Speaker 2>while recruiting through therapy, gained political influence within other groups

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<v Speaker 2>and formed a broad and ill defined front organizations that

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<v Speaker 2>could pursue the cult schools without too much heat on

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<v Speaker 2>himself personally. Newman was actually able to get one of

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<v Speaker 2>his cult members elected on the local school board, and

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<v Speaker 2>that led to some liberals digging into Newman's background and

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<v Speaker 2>group dynamics, where they found that indeed he was running

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<v Speaker 2>a therapy cult where they relinquished jobs, severed political ties,

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<v Speaker 2>and surrendered all property and savings. The cult, cut off

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<v Speaker 2>from the outside world, busy with group activities and trapped

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<v Speaker 2>in endless meetings, the Newmanites lacked feedback from reality, which

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<v Speaker 2>kept them in line. So Newman's electoral victory in the

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<v Speaker 2>form of the school board member of his own cult,

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<v Speaker 2>gave him a taste a little for electoral activism. So

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<v Speaker 2>when he crossed paths with Black nationalist Leonora Fulani, together

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<v Speaker 2>they formed the New Alliance Party or NAP in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>seventy nine. I'll just call it the NAP, right.

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<v Speaker 3>If I feel like we need to start like a

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<v Speaker 3>party counter we're at like four five already.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, IWP, THENAP, yeah, the Communist Party professional yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Flanni ran for lieutenant governor of New York in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>eighty two, and in nineteen eighty eight and ran for president,

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<v Speaker 2>becoming the first black woman to do so, gaining ballot

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<v Speaker 2>status in all fifty states and receiving nearly one million

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<v Speaker 2>dollars in federal matching funds. She ran again in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>ninety two and again qualified for ballot status in all

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<v Speaker 2>fifty states, this time receiving two million dollars in federal

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<v Speaker 2>matching funds, and she secured a whop in seventy three

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<v Speaker 2>thousan seven hundred and eight votes.

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<v Speaker 3>That's always the depressing thing with these like the vanity

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<v Speaker 3>electoral campaigns is seeing how much money they spent getting

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<v Speaker 3>like seven votes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I mean you'll never guess where this money

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<v Speaker 2>was going.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no.

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<v Speaker 2>In the background, new Ones financial maneuvers seem to be

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<v Speaker 2>fundling a lot of the party's funds into other organizations

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<v Speaker 2>affiliated with Newman. Lauren Redwood, working class lesbian, actually shared

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<v Speaker 2>her experiences working under the NAP in a letter to

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<v Speaker 2>a gay newspaper in San Francisco. I won't read the

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<v Speaker 2>whole thing, but she basically talks about how she was

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<v Speaker 2>excited to help a black woman run for president, and

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<v Speaker 2>she even found a lover while working on the campaign

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<v Speaker 2>in Indiana. But quote, when it came time for NAP

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<v Speaker 2>to leave Indiana, she I'm assuming the lover asked me

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<v Speaker 2>to go with them, and I did. I was given

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<v Speaker 2>forty eight hours to prepare. I quit my job, left

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<v Speaker 2>my whole my friends put me belongings in storage, found

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<v Speaker 2>a home for my pet, and gave the use of

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<v Speaker 2>my car to NAP for in exchange for their take

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<v Speaker 2>and over the pay months as a working class lesbian,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought I had finally found a political movement which

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<v Speaker 2>included me. What I found instead, was an oppressive, disempowered,

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<v Speaker 2>and misogynistic organization. All my decisions were made for me

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<v Speaker 2>by someone else. I was told where to go and

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<v Speaker 2>who to go with. I worked seven days a week,

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen to twenty hours a day. I had two days

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<v Speaker 2>off in two and a half months. There was an

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<v Speaker 2>incredible urgency which overrode any personal needs or considerations, an

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<v Speaker 2>urgency that meant complete self sacrifice. I felt totally powerless

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<v Speaker 2>over my life, forced into a very submissive role where

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<v Speaker 2>all control of my life belonged to someone else. I

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<v Speaker 2>had given up everything for the campaign, my job, my home,

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<v Speaker 2>and my support system. I felt desperate and late in

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<v Speaker 2>the letter, she said that I was completely exhausted, so tired,

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<v Speaker 2>I was unable to work well. Being unable to work,

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<v Speaker 2>I had no income as I was expected to raise

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<v Speaker 2>my salary myself in addition to raising money for the campaign.

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<v Speaker 2>And she also spoke about losing herself in this social

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<v Speaker 2>therapy thing that Newman was doing, as a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>independent thought was discouraged. This was Newman's whole emo, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>manipulating individual distress to transform members into political activists under

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<v Speaker 2>total control, replacing the traditional support structures that people would

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<v Speaker 2>have been coming from with the cult as a new family,

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<v Speaker 2>and despite some claims of dissolution, the evidence suggested that

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<v Speaker 2>the International Workers' Party continued to exist even as the

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<v Speaker 2>NAP was in existence, as members divested assets and funding

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<v Speaker 2>towards the idol be the whole time. Now, it's quite

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<v Speaker 2>interesting to learn the justification for why new and picked

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<v Speaker 2>Leonora Fulani in particular, and then would also link up

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<v Speaker 2>later with some of the people that I'm about to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about. So you're familiar with Antonio Gramscie, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>He introduced the concept of the organic intellectual, suggesting that

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<v Speaker 2>each social class naturally produces a stratum capable of projecting

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<v Speaker 2>its historic mission and a Germany on the flip side,

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<v Speaker 2>Lenin in his What Is to Be Done Manifesto, envisioned

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<v Speaker 2>a vanguard of professional revolutionaries from the intellectual elite to

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<v Speaker 2>bring socialism to the working class. Neumann was influenced by

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<v Speaker 2>both concepts and considered his core group to be a

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<v Speaker 2>vanguard mainly composed of white, middle class traditional intellectuals, often

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<v Speaker 2>working as therapists for newmanite fronts. But here's the twist.

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<v Speaker 2>He borrowed gram Shee's organic leader's term and connected with

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<v Speaker 2>pull of color that had organic basis of support in

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<v Speaker 2>their communities and would use them to advance the interests

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<v Speaker 2>of his secretive white.

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<v Speaker 3>Vanguard ah the PSL.

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<v Speaker 2>Indeed, so that's why Newman would create his own version

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<v Speaker 2>of the Rainbow Coalition with his Rainbow Assembly, and also

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<v Speaker 2>would engage with people like Lewis Farkhan, Al Sharpton and else. Yeah, However,

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<v Speaker 2>and political incoherence goes BurrH, he'd also link up with

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<v Speaker 2>vague populist movements like Ross Peru's Reform Party, who he'd

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<v Speaker 2>work to register voters for, and in an effort to

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<v Speaker 2>gain more voters for the right winger Ross Peru's Reform Party,

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<v Speaker 2>Newman and Fulani would encourage the Patriotic Party at the

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<v Speaker 2>Independence Party of New York to link up with Peru,

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<v Speaker 2>and then in nineteen ninety nine, the Newmanites threw their

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<v Speaker 2>support behind the Paleo conservative pat Buchanans presidential campaign. So

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<v Speaker 2>in addition this political activity is Fred Newman wore many hats.

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<v Speaker 2>He considered himself a playwright and sales the artistic director

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<v Speaker 2>of the Castillo Theater. He also directed train in at

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<v Speaker 2>the East Side Institute for Short Term psychotherapy, authored books

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<v Speaker 2>featured at the Castillo Bookstore, and operated social therapy centers

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<v Speaker 2>in various cities, describing them as a unique development community.

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<v Speaker 2>Despite the deprivations imposed on his followers, as they can imagine,

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<v Speaker 2>Newman lived quite comfortably. In nineteen ninety three, he bought

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<v Speaker 2>a substantial greenwich for thee Brownstone for nearly a million dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, who says a cult of revolution and therapy

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<v Speaker 2>can't be profitable, right?

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<v Speaker 3>Keep I keep thinking about that. Oh God, I forget

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<v Speaker 3>which of the the Nepali Maoist parties it was. But

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<v Speaker 3>one of the guys who was the head of one

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<v Speaker 3>of the Nepalese Maoist parties been like fighting a guerrilla

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<v Speaker 3>war for a long time. The end of it was

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<v Speaker 3>he moved into the house of the guy, the mansion

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<v Speaker 3>of the guy who'd been like Nepal's chief security minister.

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<v Speaker 2>That's wild.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a revolution because it goes in a circle, and

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<v Speaker 3>you went up right back where you were.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember that one. That's a that's a good quote. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of these organizations like blatantly cults. But of

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<v Speaker 2>course Newmann, Fulani and others would always deny that they

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<v Speaker 2>were in a cult. These cults always do. So you

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<v Speaker 2>look at the evidence, and the evidence points to cult.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, my, my, my not a cult. T shirts raising

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of questions that are answered by the the

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<v Speaker 3>T shirt.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, I love how when I first introduced my

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<v Speaker 2>my organization after apply disclaimers were actually not a cult,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like that one meme from King of the Hill. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So one critic of Newman wrote an article called Inside

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<v Speaker 2>the New Alliance Party Dennis Surrett, and despite initially thinking

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<v Speaker 2>that the NAP was a progressive organization, he ended up

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<v Speaker 2>detailing psychological control, racism, sexism, and the use of millions

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<v Speaker 2>of dollars to manipulate well mading individuals, particularly targeting the

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<v Speaker 2>black community. The internal structure was, of course hierarchical, as

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<v Speaker 2>Newman lived luxuriously while the rank and file members worked

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<v Speaker 2>to long hours and even faced mandatory taxes to support

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<v Speaker 2>new One's seaside mansion. Oh my god. Newman's political positions

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<v Speaker 2>were opportunistic, obviously, they changed based on the perceived benefits

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<v Speaker 2>to him and his attacks on individuals. Organizations were ruthless

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<v Speaker 2>when they failed to support him. When members joined, whether

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<v Speaker 2>through politics or therapy, they were required to reveal all

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<v Speaker 2>their resources and turn them over to the organization. They

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<v Speaker 2>had to go through mandatory psychotherapy sessions, which served as

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<v Speaker 2>a method to recruit vulnerable individuals, exploit their weaknesses, and

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<v Speaker 2>control their behavior. Now in another article, Marina Ortiz, who

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<v Speaker 2>was a former leader in the New Alliance party, explained

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<v Speaker 2>why she resigned from the NAP. What happened was the

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<v Speaker 2>leadership told her to put her child in foster care.

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<v Speaker 2>I assume because the child and her child care was

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<v Speaker 2>getting in the way of her full dedication to the cause.

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<v Speaker 2>So she revealed the NAP did not live up to

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<v Speaker 2>claims of promoting democracy obviously, and would use manipulative tactics

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<v Speaker 2>and obstruct minority empowerment, and had a long history of

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<v Speaker 2>attacking progressives and embracing Pero's nineteen ninety two presidential bid

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<v Speaker 2>and the harsh treatment dissenting voices. In the end. In

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<v Speaker 2>the book On the Edge, Denis Turasi tim more Forth

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<v Speaker 2>ended up determining Newman's work new age Leninism, which I

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<v Speaker 2>think is a really good phrase to use to describe

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<v Speaker 2>what he was doing. He had a strong knock for

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<v Speaker 2>manipulating politics, and even with Newman dead and gone. The

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<v Speaker 2>Newmanites have already proved themselves skilled political operatives, regardless of

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<v Speaker 2>their actual size, so the potential for someone to fill

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<v Speaker 2>his role in the future definitely remains, especially given the

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<v Speaker 2>state of US politics. If you want to learn more,

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<v Speaker 2>like I said, definitely read on the Edge and also

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<v Speaker 2>check out the article how Totalism Works by Alexandra Stein,

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<v Speaker 2>who was a survivor of a different cult who ended

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<v Speaker 2>up doing a dissertation on newman As. For final words,

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<v Speaker 2>stay away from cults base if it has democrat actic

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<v Speaker 2>Workers Party or People's Party of such and such or

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<v Speaker 2>popular support, m hm, scrutinize it a little bit. You know, Look,

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<v Speaker 2>let's look at the structure. That's like what they're asking

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<v Speaker 2>you to do, especially if the leadership considers themselves a

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<v Speaker 2>vanguard despite having like fifteen members. Honestly, you probably shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>follow a group of any size that considers itself a vanguard.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's typical for something for someone like me to

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<v Speaker 2>put that. That's all I have to say on New One.

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<v Speaker 2>Check on your friend with sexuals. They're probably going through

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<v Speaker 2>it right now. Or power to all the people please.

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