WEBVTT - 5G Myths vs Reality

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to tex Stuff, a production from I Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with I Heart Radio

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<v Speaker 1>and a love all things tech. So in March I

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<v Speaker 1>published an episode titled what is five G? Meaning the

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<v Speaker 1>generation of wireless technologies that have a slow, arguably a

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<v Speaker 1>painstakingly slow rollout. But since then there's been a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of weird misinformation related to what five G is and

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<v Speaker 1>what it does and what it can do, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I figured it would be good to revisit the topic

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<v Speaker 1>and try to clear some stuff up. There are some

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<v Speaker 1>myths and misconceptions that we need to address, and some

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<v Speaker 1>of this is due to questionable marketing decisions from various companies.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of it has to do with magical thinking, and

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<v Speaker 1>some of it I can't explain from a psychological standpoint.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's begin with a rundown of what the G

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<v Speaker 1>means here. As I mentioned it, it means generation, as

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<v Speaker 1>in the fifth generation of mobile network technologies that allow

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<v Speaker 1>for the wireless transmission of information, including voice communications and

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<v Speaker 1>these days stuff like Internet surfing and all the data

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<v Speaker 1>you need for all those apps that are on your phone.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's good to remember that we're talking about families

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<v Speaker 1>of technologies. Five G isn't like a single unified technological implementation,

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<v Speaker 1>which kind of already makes it confusing. So the first

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<v Speaker 1>generation of mobile network technologies was analog, not digital, and

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<v Speaker 1>it allowed for voice calls, but you couldn't even send

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<v Speaker 1>text over this network. The technology also had some pretty

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<v Speaker 1>big limitations to it, including a lack of a liable

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<v Speaker 1>form of security, so it was possible to snoop on

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<v Speaker 1>calls if you knew what you were doing. There was

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<v Speaker 1>also a problem with stuff like interference from other radio signals,

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<v Speaker 1>which ties into another topic, that of setting aside certain

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<v Speaker 1>bands of radio frequencies for specific uses. Well, touch on

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<v Speaker 1>that again later. Uh, if you don't do that, if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't set aside specific bands for specific purposes, then

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<v Speaker 1>any company could make any device that transmits and receives

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<v Speaker 1>on any given radio frequency, and then you would quickly

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<v Speaker 1>enter into a situation where interference would be a big problem,

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<v Speaker 1>like if your emergency services radio signals are on the

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<v Speaker 1>same channel frequencies as television, that would be terrible. The

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<v Speaker 1>original cellular technologies were emerging in the late nineties seventies,

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<v Speaker 1>but they stuck around until the early nine nineties. Really

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<v Speaker 1>we wouldn't refer to them as one G technologies except

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<v Speaker 1>in reet respect. In around ninety one, we saw digital

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<v Speaker 1>technologies take over for analog and thus we saw the

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<v Speaker 1>introduction of two G mobile networks, which allowed for texting. Technically,

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<v Speaker 1>you could also do stuff like send pictures, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>multi media messaging, but it was a pretty low data throughput,

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<v Speaker 1>so doing that would take a while. It took a

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<v Speaker 1>while to upload and then download over these uh these specifications.

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<v Speaker 1>There were some incremental improvements of the underlying technologies in

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<v Speaker 1>the second generations. So sometimes you'll hear about specific implementations

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<v Speaker 1>being referred to as two point five G or two

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<v Speaker 1>point seven five G really meaning a more advanced version

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<v Speaker 1>of two G technology, but not transformational enough to necessitate

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<v Speaker 1>a brand new number. And we saw a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>different versions of two G and they were not compatible

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<v Speaker 1>with each other. There was more than a couple, but

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<v Speaker 1>two of them would end up really taking hold, and

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<v Speaker 1>those were G S M and C d M A.

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<v Speaker 1>So we kind of had a forking path of mobile

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<v Speaker 1>networking technologies for a while. Both implementations met the standards

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<v Speaker 1>for two G service. In other words, they both were

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<v Speaker 1>able to do what two G was specified as doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of the specifications were largely defined with data throughput

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<v Speaker 1>speeds and the supported services that the technology should be

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<v Speaker 1>able to handle. But it also illustrated that when we

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<v Speaker 1>talk in g S, we don't necessarily mean a unified,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, monolithic approach. If you had a C d

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<v Speaker 1>M A phone and you traveled to a place that

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<v Speaker 1>only had G S M service like a GSM network,

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<v Speaker 1>you would discover that your phone just didn't work on

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<v Speaker 1>those networks, and vice versa. If you had a G

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<v Speaker 1>S M phone and you went to a place that

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<v Speaker 1>only had C d M A service, you'd be out

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<v Speaker 1>of lock. Now you could find phones that had chips

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<v Speaker 1>in them, uh SIM chips that would make them compatible

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<v Speaker 1>with both, but they were the exception, not the rule,

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<v Speaker 1>and they tended to be very expensive. The subsequent generations

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<v Speaker 1>saw new transmission standards that would allow for larger data

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<v Speaker 1>transfers per unit of time. Now we typically refer to

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<v Speaker 1>that as speed, but the speed is kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>speed is tricky. You're really talking about the data moving

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<v Speaker 1>at the same speed as just that you could transport

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<v Speaker 1>larger chunks at a time. So instead of it thinking

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<v Speaker 1>of it as um faster, think of it as just

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<v Speaker 1>more more through put. Uh So we often refer to

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<v Speaker 1>it just as you know, each generation is faster than

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<v Speaker 1>previous generations. What we really mean is we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to wait as long for stuff to happen, And in

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<v Speaker 1>four G we would see some additional services introduced on

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<v Speaker 1>top of the ones that were already supported by the

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<v Speaker 1>earlier generations. Also, the move to the LTE standard in

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<v Speaker 1>four G brought those forking paths of d M A

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<v Speaker 1>and g s M kind of back together. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a globally agreed upon standard, although not everyone was using

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<v Speaker 1>the same radio frequency bands. So while technically the standard

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<v Speaker 1>would be the same from country to country, you could

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<v Speaker 1>still have a phone not work if you were to

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<v Speaker 1>travel to a different country just because if your phone

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<v Speaker 1>antenna did not support the radio frequencies that were being

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<v Speaker 1>used by the country's network, you still wouldn't have service.

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<v Speaker 1>For a while, phones were still you know, needing the

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<v Speaker 1>older C d M A and GSM networks for the

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<v Speaker 1>purposes of voice calls because originally four G mobile carriers

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have four J support voice over for G it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of crazy, but it did come around, so that

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<v Speaker 1>would ultimately lead to the the potential to phase out

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<v Speaker 1>G S M and C D M A. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's a general tendency one that I I myself

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<v Speaker 1>had found myself falling into to go a spinal tap

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<v Speaker 1>on these kind of things. By that, I mean the

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<v Speaker 1>movie Spinal Tap. For those who don't know what I

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<v Speaker 1>mean by this, there's a scene in a mockumentary comedy

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<v Speaker 1>film called This Is Spinal Tap. It follows a fictional

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<v Speaker 1>heavy metal band, and in one iconic scene in particular,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a character named Nigel who is showing off his

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<v Speaker 1>beloved amplifier, which, as he points out, has dials that

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<v Speaker 1>go up to eleven rather than the standard ten. And

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<v Speaker 1>Nigel's point is that these go to eleven. It seems

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<v Speaker 1>to indicate that because the number on the dial is

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<v Speaker 1>larger than ten, it must therefore be louder than amplifiers

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<v Speaker 1>that go up to ten. But obviously you really can

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<v Speaker 1>just make ten louder. You can make a louder amplifier

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<v Speaker 1>and still have ten b the top number, and you

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<v Speaker 1>just change the scale because there's no meaningful advantage to

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<v Speaker 1>having an eleven on a dial because there's no universal

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<v Speaker 1>standard for what each increment of amplifier means. From a

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<v Speaker 1>louder perspective, there's no universal approach to this. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you can just put a sticker on an amplifier and

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<v Speaker 1>change a dial that went from one to tend to

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<v Speaker 1>one to eleven. You've just changed the scale a little bit. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>with tech in general, we tend to have these expectations

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<v Speaker 1>that with each subsequent generation, with each number of a technology,

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<v Speaker 1>the most recent number will be more powerful than the

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<v Speaker 1>previous ones. And it's like engineers have taken the old

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<v Speaker 1>way of doing things and just made it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>more better, or something like it's the same technology as before,

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<v Speaker 1>only now it can do what the old technology did,

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<v Speaker 1>but faster and with more power. But that is not

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<v Speaker 1>always the way things work, and particularly with wireless data transmissions,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not necessarily true. Complicating this is that there are

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<v Speaker 1>other factors that can affect your data throughput no matter

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<v Speaker 1>what g you happen to be using. Stuff like the

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<v Speaker 1>number of people who are using that particular network spot,

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<v Speaker 1>or how far away you are from the transmission antenna,

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<v Speaker 1>or what the signal to noise ratio is for that

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<v Speaker 1>particular network. You know, if there are a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people watching I don't know, four K streams of the

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<v Speaker 1>Mandalorian on their phones, which would be weird because I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>who needs the four K resolution of that screen size?

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, well, that much traffic is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a factor. It's going to start overwhelming the network. Or

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<v Speaker 1>if you're at the very edge of a service area,

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<v Speaker 1>that could affect you too. And if both factors are

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<v Speaker 1>in play, you know you're at the very edge of

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<v Speaker 1>a service area and everybody else is watching the Mandalorian

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<v Speaker 1>in four K, you might feel like your technology is

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<v Speaker 1>actually taken a step backward. You might feel like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>this is slower than my old phone. Now. Don't get

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<v Speaker 1>me wrong, the differences between one generation of wireless tech

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<v Speaker 1>and the next can be significant. They can involve new

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<v Speaker 1>ways to encode and transmit information, but sometimes that means that,

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<v Speaker 1>at least initially, you might not actually see an improvement

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to data throughput. Further, depending on the standard,

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<v Speaker 1>the number of people on a network can really make

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<v Speaker 1>a big difference to the quality of service that each

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<v Speaker 1>person receives. And it also helps to remember that generations

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<v Speaker 1>are not bordered by hard and fast beginning and ending points.

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<v Speaker 1>They bleed into each other. Typically there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>overlap between one generation and the next. I mean major

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<v Speaker 1>operators in the United States kept that old two G

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<v Speaker 1>network active up until twenty so there can even be

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<v Speaker 1>overlap between a current generation and two or three generations

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<v Speaker 1>of technology that came earlier. And we can have situations

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<v Speaker 1>where say a three G transmission is you know, faster

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<v Speaker 1>and more reliable than a four G you know, or

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<v Speaker 1>an LTE transmission. And just as I mentioned before, a

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<v Speaker 1>network congestion can do that. Right as someone who used

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<v Speaker 1>to go to really big tech conferences, like when those

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<v Speaker 1>were still a thing, you know, like C E S,

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<v Speaker 1>I would off make it a habit to switch my

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<v Speaker 1>phone manually over to three G service because the four

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<v Speaker 1>G networks would just be overwhelmed by traffic. Implementations of

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<v Speaker 1>these technologies can improve over time. So if you have

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<v Speaker 1>a late generation three G system and hand set and

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<v Speaker 1>you were to compare that against an early generation four

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<v Speaker 1>G LTE system and phone, the three G setup might

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<v Speaker 1>actually have better performance than the LT version. So the

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<v Speaker 1>three G phone on the three G network might have

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<v Speaker 1>better performance than the four G phone on the four

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<v Speaker 1>G network, you know, only because the three G one

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<v Speaker 1>occurred late in the life cycle when a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>advances had been made, and the four G came early

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<v Speaker 1>in that generation cycle before those improvements were made, and

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<v Speaker 1>on the surface, again seem counterintuitive. Again, four is bigger

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<v Speaker 1>than three, so it should be faster, and ultimately it

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<v Speaker 1>got there, but doesn't mean that it's like that round

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<v Speaker 1>the gate. We're seeing some of that with five G

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<v Speaker 1>rollout as well, which I'm sure it comes as a

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<v Speaker 1>frustration for some customers, and it doesn't help that there's

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<v Speaker 1>been some confusion, some of it purposefully promoted about what

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<v Speaker 1>does and doesn't qualify as actual five G. The organization

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<v Speaker 1>that determines what is five G is the International Telecommunication

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<v Speaker 1>Union or i TU. In the i TU announced its

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<v Speaker 1>specs for the technical requirements for five G radio interfaces.

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<v Speaker 1>Those specifications were more focused on what the five G

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<v Speaker 1>should be able to do, which included stuff like the

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<v Speaker 1>five G cell itself that is the network connection point

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<v Speaker 1>for devices like a cell tower kind of thing, and

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<v Speaker 1>that these should have at least twenty gigabits per second

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<v Speaker 1>download capacity at minimum, so it should be able to

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<v Speaker 1>support twenty billion bits per second of downloading at minimum,

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<v Speaker 1>and it also should be able to support again at

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<v Speaker 1>minimum ten gigabits per second of upload speed to the

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<v Speaker 1>network at large from each five G connection tower. Now

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<v Speaker 1>that does not mean that if your cellular service provider

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<v Speaker 1>rolls out a robust five G network, you would be

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<v Speaker 1>able to pull down twenty gigabits per second and download

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<v Speaker 1>speed on your phone. If you could, that would be

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that would be amazing. But no, this spec

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<v Speaker 1>calls for a user download speed of at least one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred megabits per second and an upload of fifty megabits

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<v Speaker 1>per second, which is pretty darn close to what you

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<v Speaker 1>can get with four G LTE on a good day.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's also good to remember that, depending on conditions,

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<v Speaker 1>you might not get peak speeds. In fact, it would

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<v Speaker 1>be pretty rare when you did get the peak performance

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<v Speaker 1>out of this technology. Anyone who has tested their home

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<v Speaker 1>internet connection is probably familiar with this, because speeds are

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<v Speaker 1>usually below, and sometimes well below the advertised peak performance

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<v Speaker 1>that you'll see from providers. That's why those little asterisks

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<v Speaker 1>after a claim in an advertisement are so important. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the one D megabits down and fifty megabits up is

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be the minimum data throughput for users, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like that that's the peak of five G service. Either.

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<v Speaker 1>A good five G network and compatible devices could mean

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<v Speaker 1>faster filed downloads, lower latency, better streaming services, all due

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<v Speaker 1>to this increase throughput. But the five G technologies can

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<v Speaker 1>make use of different bands of wireless frequencies, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>also going to change things up and make stuff more complicated.

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, not all five G is equal. There's

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<v Speaker 1>five G and then there's five G if you get

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean, and I'll explain more in a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>The standard also called for the support of up to

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<v Speaker 1>one million connected devices per square kilometer of space, So

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<v Speaker 1>a big part that is due to the proliferation of

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<v Speaker 1>the Internet of things devices that are putting an increasing

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<v Speaker 1>strain on networks, and arguably that one million per square

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<v Speaker 1>kilometer is actually falling behind as far as the Internet

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<v Speaker 1>of things trend is going, but that's another topic. There

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<v Speaker 1>are a few other specifications for five G that are important.

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<v Speaker 1>One is that latency, that is the delay introduced when

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<v Speaker 1>transmitting and receiving data, should be at four milliseconds. Maximum

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<v Speaker 1>LT part of the four G family has a latency

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty milliseconds or so, and that's important because generally speaking,

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<v Speaker 1>humans aren't really able to detect a delay less than

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<v Speaker 1>twenty milliseconds. And you can see how this would be

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<v Speaker 1>important for certain applications like augmented reality, where you've got

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of display that might be mounted in a

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<v Speaker 1>headset or glasses, or might just be through your phone

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, but you need to have digital information overlaying

0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:02.480
<v Speaker 1>a view of the physical world around you. For your

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<v Speaker 1>average application, a short delay might not be much of

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<v Speaker 1>a problem, but we're starting to see some pretty audacious

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<v Speaker 1>uses of a R including in amusement park attractions, so

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<v Speaker 1>reducing latency is an important part of providing a good

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<v Speaker 1>immersive experience. It doesn't do you any good on a ride,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, if the information you see in your in

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<v Speaker 1>your headset is relating back to something that you've already passed, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not relevant anymore. In addition, for ultra reliable low

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<v Speaker 1>latency communications otherwise known as you are l l C,

0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:40.400
<v Speaker 1>the latency should be just one millisecond, which is pretty

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<v Speaker 1>darn responsive. There are other components to the five G

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<v Speaker 1>specifications from I TU, but for most of us, they're

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<v Speaker 1>just the technical bits and bobs that makes our stuff go.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think the average consumer just wants that sweet

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<v Speaker 1>fast connection and they don't really care about things like

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<v Speaker 1>spectral efficiency, even though it's actually really important for how

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<v Speaker 1>data will travel on five G frequencies. And we will

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<v Speaker 1>come back to it, all right, So I mentioned frequency

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<v Speaker 1>bands earlier, but what does that mean. Well, we got

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<v Speaker 1>to do a quick rundown on radio waves, which we

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<v Speaker 1>will do right after this quick break. So we tend

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about radio waves in terms of frequency, which

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<v Speaker 1>is how many radio wave lengths will pass a given

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<v Speaker 1>point within a second. And this also links back to

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<v Speaker 1>the actual wave length of the radio wave. All radio

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<v Speaker 1>waves travel at the same speed. They are electromagnetic information

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<v Speaker 1>or electromagnetic signals, I should say, so in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the length of the wave that determines how many

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<v Speaker 1>of that particular radio wave will pass a given point

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<v Speaker 1>in the second. If they're all moving at the same speed,

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<v Speaker 1>the the length is the only real differentiator that tells

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<v Speaker 1>us this. So the radio spectrum is a really big one.

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<v Speaker 1>And as I mentioned earlier, countries set aside specific bands

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<v Speaker 1>for specific purposes. Generally speaking, the full radio spectrum that

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<v Speaker 1>we could use for wireless communication spans from three hurts

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<v Speaker 1>to three hundred giga hurts, and it hurts is one

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<v Speaker 1>cycle per second, like one vibration per second, but in

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<v Speaker 1>the case of radio waves, we think of it as

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<v Speaker 1>one wavelength per second. So you've got a physical spot

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<v Speaker 1>like a start line, and it takes one full second

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<v Speaker 1>for a single wavelength to pass that point. That would

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<v Speaker 1>be a one hurts radio wave would also be incredibly

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<v Speaker 1>long because these things are moving wicked fast. So on

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<v Speaker 1>the low end of the spectrum that we tend to

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<v Speaker 1>use for a communication, we have three to thirty hurts.

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<v Speaker 1>That means you would have three to thirty wavelengths of

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<v Speaker 1>a radio signal passing a given point in a second,

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<v Speaker 1>which at three hurts would mean that the wavelength would

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<v Speaker 1>be about one hundred thousand kilometers long. This is not

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<v Speaker 1>easy for us to generate because there's actually a relationship

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<v Speaker 1>between the length of our radio wave and the length

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<v Speaker 1>of an antenna that you need to generate it to

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<v Speaker 1>transmit that kind of wave. But these extremely low frequencies

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<v Speaker 1>have a benefit of being able to penetrate water so

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<v Speaker 1>it makes them useful for stuff like communicating with submarines

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<v Speaker 1>on the far end of the spectrum, on the opposite side,

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<v Speaker 1>we have three hundred giga hurts, meaning three hundred billion

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<v Speaker 1>wavelengths of a radio signal will pass a given point

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<v Speaker 1>in a second, which means each individual radio wave measures

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<v Speaker 1>one millimeter long. So what happens if you were to

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<v Speaker 1>keep going down the spectrum? What happens if you kept

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<v Speaker 1>on making the wavelengths shorter and making the frequencies higher, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>eventually you cross over into other types of electro magnetic energy,

0:20:06.160 --> 0:20:09.320
<v Speaker 1>including stuff like visible light. When you go far enough,

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<v Speaker 1>if you keep going, then you hit stuff like X

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<v Speaker 1>rays and gamma rays. Alright, so the five G wireless

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<v Speaker 1>frequencies fall into a couple of broad groups, and one

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<v Speaker 1>of those two we can even split into two subgroups.

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<v Speaker 1>So on the low end of the scale, which is

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<v Speaker 1>often called the sub six giga hurts, we've got the

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<v Speaker 1>low end at six hundred mega hurts. That means six

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<v Speaker 1>hundred million wavelengths would pass a given point per second,

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<v Speaker 1>and all the way up to six giga hurts or

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<v Speaker 1>six billion wavelengths past a point in a second. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>keep in mind that the whole range is not exclusive

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<v Speaker 1>to five G, just chunks of that range are in

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<v Speaker 1>five G. For example, there's actually a pretty big gap

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<v Speaker 1>between twenty six hundred mega hurts and thirty five hundred

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<v Speaker 1>mega hurts. These frequencies represent the low band and mid

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<v Speaker 1>band ranges of five G frequencies. Those would be those

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<v Speaker 1>two subgroups I mentioned earlier, low band being the lower

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<v Speaker 1>group of frequencies in that chunk, and mid band being

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<v Speaker 1>in the higher band of frequencies in that chunk. But

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<v Speaker 1>we've got a second chunk which consists of much higher frequencies,

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<v Speaker 1>starting at twenty six giga hurts and ending in the

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<v Speaker 1>fifty giga hurts range. And again five G does not

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<v Speaker 1>take up all the frequencies within this range, but chunks

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<v Speaker 1>of them or sub sections of them. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>the high band range of frequencies. So we've got the

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<v Speaker 1>low band, the mid band, and the high band range

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<v Speaker 1>of five G. Now it's that high band frequency range

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<v Speaker 1>that the marketing divisions of various carrier companies have really

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<v Speaker 1>focused on because it represents the biggest potential impact on consumers.

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<v Speaker 1>Assuming a robust rollout of five G infrastructure and some

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<v Speaker 1>special situations. It's in that high band frequent sees where

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<v Speaker 1>we see incredible data throughput. One of a T and

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<v Speaker 1>T S tests of its five G high band technology

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<v Speaker 1>showed a bandwidth of one point two gigabits per second.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a similar speed to what you would find with

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<v Speaker 1>a fiber optic connection. So wicked fast data transfer speeds.

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<v Speaker 1>That's incredible, right. You would be able to download videos

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<v Speaker 1>to your phone in a blink of an eye. If

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<v Speaker 1>you had a five G antenna connected to your home router,

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<v Speaker 1>then you can use five G to be a substitute

0:22:33.560 --> 0:22:37.159
<v Speaker 1>for a fiber optic line direct to your home. You

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<v Speaker 1>could even download those massive PS five and Xbox Series

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<v Speaker 1>X games in just a minute or two. But at

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<v Speaker 1>the lower range of frequencies, you know, the stuff that's

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<v Speaker 1>in the low to mid band ranges of five G,

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<v Speaker 1>those are not as impressive when it comes to data throughput.

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<v Speaker 1>You wouldn't be able to hit that kind of bandwidth.

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<v Speaker 1>The speeds you would get at those ranges would be

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<v Speaker 1>closer to what you see with lt E a K

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<v Speaker 1>four G speeds. Uh, the low band would be a

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<v Speaker 1>little faster than four G. The mid band can be

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<v Speaker 1>significantly faster, just not nearly as fast as the high

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<v Speaker 1>band stuff. And let's think about how we use radio

0:23:16.160 --> 0:23:18.600
<v Speaker 1>waves to send information to kind of understand what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on here. A radio wave on its own that is

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<v Speaker 1>a just a steady radio frequency, that's not terribly useful

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<v Speaker 1>if we want to convey any information, right, Like, imagine

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<v Speaker 1>you're seeing down to have a conversation with someone like me,

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<v Speaker 1>and let's just say that I just make a noise

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<v Speaker 1>like this. Uh, that's not really helpful, right, I mean,

0:23:44.960 --> 0:23:46.800
<v Speaker 1>some of my critics would say they could barely tell

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<v Speaker 1>the difference between that and one of my episodes. Words

0:23:50.480 --> 0:23:55.359
<v Speaker 1>can hurt, But anyway, without me modulating that sound, without

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<v Speaker 1>making the phonemes associated with the language, all I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>able to do with a simple tone like that is

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<v Speaker 1>to indicate that you know, I'm here, I'm around. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm able to make that tone, but that's really it.

0:24:08.560 --> 0:24:12.800
<v Speaker 1>So to communicate, I have to take that tone, that signal,

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<v Speaker 1>and I need to alter it in some way. I

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<v Speaker 1>could increase the pitch or the frequency. I might change

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<v Speaker 1>the volume of it or the amplitude in order to

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<v Speaker 1>distress something. And I can chop up that sound in

0:24:27.119 --> 0:24:30.720
<v Speaker 1>lots of ways encoding information that you decode. You hear

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<v Speaker 1>the sound, your brain interprets the sound, and you make

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<v Speaker 1>meaning from it, which is really cool. Well, radio waves

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<v Speaker 1>are kind of similar. We take a radio signal of

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<v Speaker 1>a particular frequency, that is our carrier signal, and then

0:24:45.800 --> 0:24:49.320
<v Speaker 1>we have a channel of signals, and we change that

0:24:49.400 --> 0:24:53.920
<v Speaker 1>channel of signals in little ways to have that carry information.

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<v Speaker 1>So we can change the amplitude that's what AM radio does.

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<v Speaker 1>AM stands for amplitude modulation, Or we could change the

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<v Speaker 1>frequency a little bit, that's what FM radio does. That's

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<v Speaker 1>frequency modulation, and we could encode information onto the radio

0:25:10.440 --> 0:25:14.520
<v Speaker 1>waves themselves that way. Then an antenna of an appropriately

0:25:14.600 --> 0:25:17.720
<v Speaker 1>tuned receiver can pick up that radio signal and with

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<v Speaker 1>a decoder, it can change the information back into a

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<v Speaker 1>form that's useful to us, which is pretty nifty. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>when we get to wireless communications beyond basic radio signals,

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<v Speaker 1>we are talking about channels. Here. That carrier signal is

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<v Speaker 1>really the foundation to transmit information. But with a channel,

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<v Speaker 1>we're actually talking about a band of frequencies that are

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<v Speaker 1>in some way around this carrier signal, and the size

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<v Speaker 1>of that channel would be the bandwidth that determines how

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<v Speaker 1>much information that signal can carry, though the encoding process

0:25:51.119 --> 0:25:53.160
<v Speaker 1>also plays a big part in this, but we don't

0:25:53.160 --> 0:25:58.000
<v Speaker 1>want to get too deep into encoding. That gets really complicated.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's use a very simple example. Let's say you've

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<v Speaker 1>got a carrier signal at six hundred mega hurts and

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<v Speaker 1>the channel frequency is too mega hurts. What that means

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<v Speaker 1>is that you actually have a two mega hurts space

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<v Speaker 1>around six hundred. So a simple way of doing this

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<v Speaker 1>would be to say that from five to six hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and one mega hurts, that's where the channel sits, and

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<v Speaker 1>six hundred is right smack dab in the middle, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's that that channel with that gives you your data

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<v Speaker 1>carrying capacity. Now let's get into that spectral efficiency thing

0:26:34.240 --> 0:26:36.680
<v Speaker 1>that I mentioned earlier in this episode. It's a good

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<v Speaker 1>time to sort of explain what that actually means. And first,

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<v Speaker 1>here's what it doesn't mean. I was very sad to

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<v Speaker 1>discover that spectral efficiency has nothing to do with how

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<v Speaker 1>effective ghosts are at haunting someplace. I mean, come on,

0:26:50.600 --> 0:26:53.679
<v Speaker 1>that's where my mind went. But ghosts aren't real, So

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that's a strike against that idea. In the

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<v Speaker 1>first place. So spectral efficiency has to do with how

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<v Speaker 1>much information can fit into a given channel bandwidth, how

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<v Speaker 1>well can that part of the radio spectrum that that

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<v Speaker 1>channel transmit information? How effective is it and carrying info well.

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<v Speaker 1>Spectral efficiency tells us more about how much information we

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<v Speaker 1>can encode onto a given frequency channel. We typically talk

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<v Speaker 1>about in terms of the number of bits per second

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<v Speaker 1>per hurts. So it's a net data rate per second

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<v Speaker 1>or bits per second divided by the channel bandwidth and hurts.

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<v Speaker 1>And again we're not talking about the specific radio frequency here,

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<v Speaker 1>so we wouldn't be saying six hundred mega hurts. We're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about how wide is that channel? How wide does

0:27:44.000 --> 0:27:48.440
<v Speaker 1>that bandwidth? And that can be anywhere on the radio frequency,

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<v Speaker 1>So how big is the range of frequencies within that channel.

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<v Speaker 1>Wider channels can carry more information, kind of like if

0:27:56.240 --> 0:27:59.359
<v Speaker 1>you have a highway that has more lanes, more cars

0:27:59.400 --> 0:28:02.399
<v Speaker 1>can fit on that span of highway at a single time.

0:28:02.840 --> 0:28:05.720
<v Speaker 1>So while the base frequency for a five G connection

0:28:05.800 --> 0:28:08.880
<v Speaker 1>might be six center mega hurts, the channel with could

0:28:08.960 --> 0:28:11.960
<v Speaker 1>be anything. Let's say that it could be like thirty

0:28:12.000 --> 0:28:15.600
<v Speaker 1>mega hurts. Well, that's what we're concerned with the channel

0:28:15.640 --> 0:28:19.280
<v Speaker 1>with the thirty mega hurts, not what frequency it's actually

0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:24.080
<v Speaker 1>transmitted on. That doesn't really matter. Let's take an example

0:28:24.119 --> 0:28:27.600
<v Speaker 1>to really understand this. I pulled this example, by the way,

0:28:27.760 --> 0:28:30.679
<v Speaker 1>from tech play on dot com. They actually have a

0:28:30.720 --> 0:28:34.480
<v Speaker 1>really useful rundown on what spectral efficiency is, and in

0:28:34.520 --> 0:28:37.560
<v Speaker 1>their example, we have the following. We've got a fifteen

0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:41.880
<v Speaker 1>megabits per second raw data rate on a channel bandwidth,

0:28:42.360 --> 0:28:46.480
<v Speaker 1>and the channel bandwidth is two mega hurts. Now, that

0:28:46.680 --> 0:28:49.520
<v Speaker 1>raw data rate is not what a user would actually

0:28:49.760 --> 0:28:51.920
<v Speaker 1>get to take advantage of for the purposes of doing

0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:55.440
<v Speaker 1>something like download a file, because you have to have

0:28:55.640 --> 0:28:59.080
<v Speaker 1>a certain amount of the bandwidth reserved for what's called overhead,

0:28:59.520 --> 0:29:02.480
<v Speaker 1>just you know, have things work. So in this case,

0:29:03.120 --> 0:29:06.960
<v Speaker 1>this particular approach reserves two megabits per second as overhead,

0:29:07.000 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 1>so really you only have access to thirteen megabits per second.

0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:13.520
<v Speaker 1>If this sounds familiar to you, you're probably thinking about

0:29:13.520 --> 0:29:16.360
<v Speaker 1>things like storage space. You'll be told like a hard

0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:19.200
<v Speaker 1>drive can hold a terabyte of information, but it turns

0:29:19.200 --> 0:29:22.800
<v Speaker 1>out it's more like eight hundred gigabytes of information. Same

0:29:22.800 --> 0:29:27.280
<v Speaker 1>sort of thing. So in this particular example, using the

0:29:27.360 --> 0:29:29.960
<v Speaker 1>bits per second per hurts, we would say we've got

0:29:30.000 --> 0:29:33.720
<v Speaker 1>thirteen megabits per second, which would be thirteen million bits

0:29:33.720 --> 0:29:35.960
<v Speaker 1>per second, and then we would have to divide that

0:29:36.000 --> 0:29:39.120
<v Speaker 1>by two mega hurts or two million hurts. That would

0:29:39.120 --> 0:29:42.640
<v Speaker 1>give us six point five bits per second per hurts,

0:29:42.640 --> 0:29:47.280
<v Speaker 1>which describes the spectral efficiency of this hypothetical signal. Now,

0:29:47.320 --> 0:29:50.600
<v Speaker 1>remember we were talking about a channel with a width

0:29:50.600 --> 0:29:52.520
<v Speaker 1>of two mega hurts, and I didn't talk about the

0:29:52.520 --> 0:29:55.880
<v Speaker 1>actual frequency of the signal because that's not important. If

0:29:55.920 --> 0:30:01.040
<v Speaker 1>the if the frequency was twenty six hundred mega hurts

0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:03.760
<v Speaker 1>and not six center mega hurts, it would still be

0:30:03.840 --> 0:30:08.000
<v Speaker 1>the same amount of information being carried on this signal,

0:30:08.000 --> 0:30:11.800
<v Speaker 1>because again it's the channel width that range of frequencies

0:30:11.840 --> 0:30:14.960
<v Speaker 1>that's what's important. How why does that channel how much

0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:18.960
<v Speaker 1>capacity are we talking about here to hold data, not

0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:22.680
<v Speaker 1>the frequency of the carrier signal. So in the lower

0:30:22.720 --> 0:30:26.760
<v Speaker 1>group of frequencies for five G, the channel width is narrower,

0:30:27.160 --> 0:30:30.320
<v Speaker 1>with most of them being around forty mega hurts wide

0:30:30.520 --> 0:30:33.760
<v Speaker 1>or or smaller. Uh, there's lots of other stuff that's

0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:39.120
<v Speaker 1>taking up bands of frequencies around this range. So in

0:30:39.160 --> 0:30:42.120
<v Speaker 1>other words, you need to have enough channels so that

0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:45.200
<v Speaker 1>all the different carriers can operate without them interfering with

0:30:45.240 --> 0:30:49.120
<v Speaker 1>each other. But they can't be too wide because you

0:30:49.120 --> 0:30:52.640
<v Speaker 1>you've got to reserve some of that radio frequency space

0:30:52.760 --> 0:30:57.080
<v Speaker 1>for other stuff. So by necessity, there's a limit to

0:30:57.160 --> 0:30:59.480
<v Speaker 1>how wide those channels can get, which means there's a

0:30:59.560 --> 0:31:03.640
<v Speaker 1>limit to how much information they can carry. Uh. When

0:31:03.640 --> 0:31:06.880
<v Speaker 1>you start getting further up in the frequencies, there's a

0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:10.480
<v Speaker 1>little more room to work with, so the channels can

0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:15.400
<v Speaker 1>be more wide or wider at those higher frequencies, with

0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:18.360
<v Speaker 1>channels that are a hundred mega hurts wide, so they

0:31:18.400 --> 0:31:22.200
<v Speaker 1>can actually carry more information per second. There's a lot

0:31:22.280 --> 0:31:24.680
<v Speaker 1>more to it than all of this, but it if

0:31:24.680 --> 0:31:29.320
<v Speaker 1>you think it's complicated now, it gets really Matthew after that,

0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:31.760
<v Speaker 1>and I'm worried that I would not explain it properly.

0:31:31.840 --> 0:31:35.040
<v Speaker 1>So rather than make things more confusing, let's leave off

0:31:35.160 --> 0:31:38.360
<v Speaker 1>with the understanding that the low and mid band five

0:31:38.440 --> 0:31:43.800
<v Speaker 1>gen networks will offer modest, too good improvements in wireless

0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:48.520
<v Speaker 1>data speeds, but nothing approaching fiber optics speeds. The high

0:31:48.560 --> 0:31:52.120
<v Speaker 1>band can hit fiber optics speeds, So that leads you

0:31:52.160 --> 0:31:54.320
<v Speaker 1>to a question, why wouldn't you just go all in

0:31:54.400 --> 0:31:56.920
<v Speaker 1>with the high band? Why would you even bother with

0:31:57.080 --> 0:31:59.600
<v Speaker 1>low band or mid band. Well, there are a couple

0:31:59.600 --> 0:32:02.760
<v Speaker 1>of answers that question. One of them is that the

0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:07.200
<v Speaker 1>transmission range for those higher frequencies is much shorter than

0:32:07.280 --> 0:32:10.200
<v Speaker 1>for the low and midband frequencies. And we're talking about

0:32:10.240 --> 0:32:14.080
<v Speaker 1>like a thousand feet or less from the transmission tower,

0:32:14.520 --> 0:32:17.920
<v Speaker 1>which means you would need high band five G antennas

0:32:18.680 --> 0:32:23.479
<v Speaker 1>everywhere to provide comprehensive coverage. If you didn't, well, you

0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:26.000
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be able to take advantage of those super fast

0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:29.320
<v Speaker 1>speeds at any place within a given region. Like you

0:32:29.360 --> 0:32:31.840
<v Speaker 1>might only be able to hit it at a specific

0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:34.920
<v Speaker 1>street corner, but if you go a block in any direction,

0:32:35.000 --> 0:32:39.160
<v Speaker 1>suddenly that connection just drops on top of the limited range.

0:32:39.360 --> 0:32:43.760
<v Speaker 1>The higher frequencies have really poor penetration, so it's hard

0:32:43.800 --> 0:32:47.280
<v Speaker 1>for them to get to pass through stuff like walls

0:32:47.920 --> 0:32:50.760
<v Speaker 1>or you know, foliage. So if you've got a wall

0:32:50.800 --> 0:32:53.120
<v Speaker 1>between you and a transmitter, or you know you're just

0:32:53.200 --> 0:32:56.800
<v Speaker 1>in a you know, wooded area inside a park, let's

0:32:56.800 --> 0:32:58.960
<v Speaker 1>say at a city, you might not be able to

0:32:58.960 --> 0:33:03.160
<v Speaker 1>get a very good, saynal from those high band transmitters,

0:33:03.200 --> 0:33:06.040
<v Speaker 1>so you wouldn't be able to take advantage of those

0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:10.000
<v Speaker 1>those speeds, the low and midband frequencies at five G,

0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:14.360
<v Speaker 1>they have better range and they have better penetration, so

0:33:14.680 --> 0:33:18.200
<v Speaker 1>you don't need as many antennas for low range or

0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:21.720
<v Speaker 1>low band and mid band frequencies. Uh. And when you

0:33:21.760 --> 0:33:25.040
<v Speaker 1>have them, you can actually have people still get a

0:33:25.080 --> 0:33:27.959
<v Speaker 1>signal if they were to be inside, assuming you're not

0:33:28.160 --> 0:33:31.280
<v Speaker 1>too far away from whatever the closest transmitters are. So

0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:34.000
<v Speaker 1>the high band five G transmitters will provide the most

0:33:34.040 --> 0:33:38.320
<v Speaker 1>incredible jumps and performance, but the availability of the signal

0:33:38.560 --> 0:33:42.920
<v Speaker 1>will be relatively low. The low band stuff will provide

0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:46.880
<v Speaker 1>a you know, a modest improvement over four G speeds,

0:33:46.920 --> 0:33:50.360
<v Speaker 1>but it could be available pretty much everywhere with just

0:33:51.040 --> 0:33:54.640
<v Speaker 1>a relatively few number of cell towers. Compared to the

0:33:54.720 --> 0:33:57.280
<v Speaker 1>high band stuff, that mid band is kind of in

0:33:57.320 --> 0:34:00.440
<v Speaker 1>the sweet spot. Uh. Your typical data speed would be

0:34:00.480 --> 0:34:03.520
<v Speaker 1>greater than what we see with four G by you know,

0:34:03.840 --> 0:34:06.160
<v Speaker 1>a decent amount, but it wouldn't be as impressive as

0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:09.799
<v Speaker 1>that high band range where you're getting the gigabit per

0:34:09.840 --> 0:34:13.920
<v Speaker 1>second speeds. Anyway, based on a lot of the marketing

0:34:13.960 --> 0:34:17.920
<v Speaker 1>for five G, you would never know that the speeds

0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:20.759
<v Speaker 1>they talk about are something you would only experience if

0:34:20.800 --> 0:34:25.120
<v Speaker 1>you happen to be in a transmitter dense environment and

0:34:25.360 --> 0:34:28.040
<v Speaker 1>outdoors to boot. It's the sort of thing you might

0:34:28.080 --> 0:34:32.080
<v Speaker 1>experience if you are in a dense urban setting, you know,

0:34:32.120 --> 0:34:34.440
<v Speaker 1>a city that has enough people in it to justify

0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:38.560
<v Speaker 1>the expense of rolling out a high band five G

0:34:38.800 --> 0:34:42.200
<v Speaker 1>infrastructure all over the ding dang during place. And if

0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:46.000
<v Speaker 1>you have a building between you and the closest transmitter,

0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:49.200
<v Speaker 1>you're not likely to get a good signal. So the

0:34:49.280 --> 0:34:54.160
<v Speaker 1>reality of five G is a little less exciting than

0:34:54.239 --> 0:34:58.520
<v Speaker 1>the marketing materials would necessarily have us believe. Though, if

0:34:58.520 --> 0:35:00.759
<v Speaker 1>you do happen to find yourself in the situation where

0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:03.640
<v Speaker 1>you've got a clear line of sight on a high

0:35:03.640 --> 0:35:07.279
<v Speaker 1>band five G transmitter, like let's say that for some

0:35:07.360 --> 0:35:10.080
<v Speaker 1>reason they build one that happens to be like a

0:35:10.200 --> 0:35:13.319
<v Speaker 1>bee line right into your living room, Well you've got

0:35:13.360 --> 0:35:17.600
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have blazing fast wireless communication connections in that case,

0:35:17.640 --> 0:35:21.799
<v Speaker 1>if you've got compatible technologies to use with it. That's

0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:24.879
<v Speaker 1>also why, again five companies are talking about using five

0:35:24.920 --> 0:35:28.760
<v Speaker 1>G as a replacement for stuff like fiber connections to homes,

0:35:29.680 --> 0:35:32.800
<v Speaker 1>because it's way easier to provide that kind of speed

0:35:33.160 --> 0:35:36.880
<v Speaker 1>to a home if the home has an antenna. And

0:35:37.480 --> 0:35:41.280
<v Speaker 1>that's because, with very few exceptions, homes don't move around

0:35:41.920 --> 0:35:45.239
<v Speaker 1>very much. So you can establish a line of sight

0:35:45.400 --> 0:35:49.520
<v Speaker 1>between a home antenna and a transmission antenna and you

0:35:49.520 --> 0:35:51.920
<v Speaker 1>can be fairly sure that's not going to change over time.

0:35:52.320 --> 0:35:55.080
<v Speaker 1>But people with a cell phone, you know, people move

0:35:55.080 --> 0:36:00.759
<v Speaker 1>around a lot the jerks. Alright, So five speeds have

0:36:00.800 --> 0:36:04.080
<v Speaker 1>the potential to give us access to incredible data transfer

0:36:04.080 --> 0:36:07.839
<v Speaker 1>speeds under certain circumstances, but otherwise we'll see a more

0:36:07.960 --> 0:36:11.200
<v Speaker 1>modest improvement over what we have today. When we come back,

0:36:11.520 --> 0:36:15.360
<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about some of the conspiracies and misconceptions around

0:36:15.360 --> 0:36:25.839
<v Speaker 1>five G. But first let's take another quick break. When

0:36:25.840 --> 0:36:30.560
<v Speaker 1>it comes to misinformation, misunderstanding, and misrepresentation, I am not

0:36:30.680 --> 0:36:35.040
<v Speaker 1>sure I have seen another technology as prone to that

0:36:35.160 --> 0:36:38.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff. Is five G at least not a

0:36:38.239 --> 0:36:41.680
<v Speaker 1>legitimate technology. There are a lot of hoaxes out there.

0:36:42.200 --> 0:36:44.480
<v Speaker 1>They could probably give five G a run for its money,

0:36:44.920 --> 0:36:49.040
<v Speaker 1>but you know, that's a that's a different kettle of fish.

0:36:49.120 --> 0:36:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Some of this comes down to marketing, and as I've

0:36:52.000 --> 0:36:56.080
<v Speaker 1>already mentioned, that is a big issue. Companies pushing five

0:36:56.160 --> 0:36:59.759
<v Speaker 1>G like it's a fiber optic connection wherever you might be.

0:37:00.280 --> 0:37:05.440
<v Speaker 1>That's misleading, it's not really accurate. Given the range and

0:37:05.520 --> 0:37:10.200
<v Speaker 1>penetration limitations of millimeter wave five G transmissions, that high

0:37:10.239 --> 0:37:13.160
<v Speaker 1>band we were talking about, you're just not likely to

0:37:13.200 --> 0:37:17.160
<v Speaker 1>experience those speeds unless you're in a city that you

0:37:17.239 --> 0:37:20.000
<v Speaker 1>happen to be outside, and you are close to one

0:37:20.080 --> 0:37:23.440
<v Speaker 1>of those transmitters, and you've got a compatible device that

0:37:23.719 --> 0:37:26.720
<v Speaker 1>runs on the network that happens to be in that area.

0:37:27.160 --> 0:37:31.400
<v Speaker 1>This is what we would call conditional love. It's really

0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:35.080
<v Speaker 1>really conditional. Now that's not to say that low and

0:37:35.120 --> 0:37:38.160
<v Speaker 1>mid range five G speeds will be bad. They won't

0:37:38.200 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 1>be bad. They'll be good. They just won't be as

0:37:40.040 --> 0:37:44.600
<v Speaker 1>transformational as the advertising would have you think. But there

0:37:44.600 --> 0:37:47.920
<v Speaker 1>are other complications here. For example, A T and T

0:37:48.160 --> 0:37:54.400
<v Speaker 1>S five G E. Why all right, this one is

0:37:54.760 --> 0:37:58.160
<v Speaker 1>hard for me to cover without getting snarky about it,

0:37:58.239 --> 0:38:00.400
<v Speaker 1>because it's very hard for me to see how this

0:38:00.480 --> 0:38:05.640
<v Speaker 1>is anything other than misinformation. But let's cover what actually happened.

0:38:06.000 --> 0:38:09.320
<v Speaker 1>So back in early twenty nineteen, some A, T and

0:38:09.400 --> 0:38:12.960
<v Speaker 1>D customers saw an interesting icon pop up on their phones,

0:38:13.440 --> 0:38:17.600
<v Speaker 1>and the icon said five G E and These were

0:38:17.640 --> 0:38:21.040
<v Speaker 1>the very same phones that one day earlier were humble

0:38:21.239 --> 0:38:25.440
<v Speaker 1>four G phones LTE phones, and overnight, boom, they go

0:38:25.520 --> 0:38:28.680
<v Speaker 1>to five G, which is incredible. How did that happen? Well,

0:38:29.239 --> 0:38:32.480
<v Speaker 1>it happened by not happening. See, I didn't go five

0:38:32.560 --> 0:38:36.920
<v Speaker 1>gen because five G E or five G evolution is

0:38:37.000 --> 0:38:40.160
<v Speaker 1>what a T and T calls four G L T E.

0:38:40.600 --> 0:38:43.640
<v Speaker 1>Now granted it is four G L T E with

0:38:43.800 --> 0:38:48.279
<v Speaker 1>the late generation advances like the four by four M

0:38:48.320 --> 0:38:51.040
<v Speaker 1>I M O and T five six Q A M

0:38:51.120 --> 0:38:53.600
<v Speaker 1>and No, I'm not going to explain these things because

0:38:53.600 --> 0:38:57.400
<v Speaker 1>it would take another episode to do it. The important

0:38:57.440 --> 0:39:00.520
<v Speaker 1>thing to know is that these were advanced as were made,

0:39:00.560 --> 0:39:03.160
<v Speaker 1>and how we take advantage of four G networks, how

0:39:03.200 --> 0:39:08.920
<v Speaker 1>we encode information to transmit across four G technology, which

0:39:09.120 --> 0:39:13.560
<v Speaker 1>allowed for better connectivity and faster data transfer rates. So

0:39:14.000 --> 0:39:17.560
<v Speaker 1>this is that late stage generational stuff that I alluded

0:39:17.560 --> 0:39:20.359
<v Speaker 1>to at the beginning of this episode. It's what we

0:39:20.360 --> 0:39:24.040
<v Speaker 1>were seeing with the four G networks. And in fact,

0:39:24.400 --> 0:39:27.400
<v Speaker 1>T Mobile had rolled out the same sort of technology

0:39:27.520 --> 0:39:31.680
<v Speaker 1>and its networks three years earlier, and T Mobile was

0:39:31.680 --> 0:39:34.880
<v Speaker 1>still calling it four G because you know, it was

0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:37.719
<v Speaker 1>it was good for G but it was still four G,

0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:41.080
<v Speaker 1>but A T and T was marketing it as five

0:39:41.239 --> 0:39:46.040
<v Speaker 1>G E, and the company understandably became the target of criticism,

0:39:46.120 --> 0:39:51.480
<v Speaker 1>largely from other carriers, and T Mobile was chief among them.

0:39:51.560 --> 0:39:54.080
<v Speaker 1>It took more than a year of pressure, but T

0:39:54.280 --> 0:39:58.759
<v Speaker 1>Mobile had turned to the National Advertising Division to protest

0:39:59.000 --> 0:40:01.000
<v Speaker 1>that A T. T was using five G as a

0:40:01.040 --> 0:40:05.680
<v Speaker 1>marketing tool when it wasn't actually using five G technologies,

0:40:06.120 --> 0:40:09.600
<v Speaker 1>and T Mobile's claim was that this amounts to false advertising.

0:40:10.000 --> 0:40:13.000
<v Speaker 1>So the National Advertising Division told A T and T

0:40:13.160 --> 0:40:17.720
<v Speaker 1>to knock that stuff off, and after appealing this decision

0:40:17.800 --> 0:40:21.080
<v Speaker 1>and then being shot down, A T and T agreed

0:40:21.360 --> 0:40:25.320
<v Speaker 1>to no longer use five G E and its advertising

0:40:25.480 --> 0:40:28.759
<v Speaker 1>and marketing in twenty twenty, though the five G E

0:40:29.120 --> 0:40:33.880
<v Speaker 1>icon still appears on customers phones using four G LTE networks.

0:40:34.520 --> 0:40:37.200
<v Speaker 1>Uh that being said, A T and T also has

0:40:37.560 --> 0:40:41.719
<v Speaker 1>legit five G handsets and five G infrastructure in some places,

0:40:42.200 --> 0:40:44.080
<v Speaker 1>So if you have a phone on A T and

0:40:44.160 --> 0:40:46.880
<v Speaker 1>T S low or mid band five G network and

0:40:46.960 --> 0:40:49.400
<v Speaker 1>you connect to one of those, it will say five G,

0:40:49.880 --> 0:40:53.000
<v Speaker 1>not five G E five G. If you connect to

0:40:53.040 --> 0:40:55.759
<v Speaker 1>a high band network, then you get the five G

0:40:56.040 --> 0:41:00.000
<v Speaker 1>plus icon. But even in the old LTE network you'll

0:41:00.040 --> 0:41:03.840
<v Speaker 1>c five G E even though it's four G technology.

0:41:03.960 --> 0:41:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Other companies didn't come out spotless in this whole endeavor either.

0:41:08.400 --> 0:41:12.240
<v Speaker 1>Verizon caught some major criticism after airing ads that said

0:41:12.239 --> 0:41:15.960
<v Speaker 1>five G technology would enable other big breakthroughs, such as

0:41:16.000 --> 0:41:21.000
<v Speaker 1>in medical treatments for cancer. Now that is just difficult

0:41:21.080 --> 0:41:24.439
<v Speaker 1>to back up. The low latency and the high data

0:41:24.480 --> 0:41:28.759
<v Speaker 1>throughput are helpful in a lot of applications, assuming you

0:41:28.800 --> 0:41:32.200
<v Speaker 1>can take advantage of mid band or preferably high band

0:41:32.360 --> 0:41:37.360
<v Speaker 1>five G frequencies. But faster transmission speeds and lower latency

0:41:37.760 --> 0:41:44.520
<v Speaker 1>don't magically make new technologies just appear. They can facilitate implementations,

0:41:45.000 --> 0:41:49.319
<v Speaker 1>but they don't make them just happen. So as a comparison,

0:41:49.680 --> 0:41:54.359
<v Speaker 1>faster computers doesn't immediately mean you're going to get better software. Right.

0:41:54.960 --> 0:41:58.319
<v Speaker 1>You can make a more sophisticated software of possibility by

0:41:58.480 --> 0:42:02.920
<v Speaker 1>creating faster computers, but it doesn't make it a certainty. Moreover,

0:42:03.080 --> 0:42:07.279
<v Speaker 1>for facilities like hospitals, in hospital networks are likely to

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<v Speaker 1>be robust enough without five G to give the speeds

0:42:10.400 --> 0:42:13.920
<v Speaker 1>and low latency that you need for stuff like telesurgery,

0:42:13.960 --> 0:42:17.120
<v Speaker 1>For example, Now you could argue that five G could

0:42:17.120 --> 0:42:22.600
<v Speaker 1>extend that capability beyond well funded hospitals, But then you're

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<v Speaker 1>left with the question of how likely is it that

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<v Speaker 1>a mobile carrier is going to build out its network

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<v Speaker 1>into regions that are either outside of dense urban centers

0:42:34.800 --> 0:42:38.600
<v Speaker 1>or outside of more privileged areas. In general, I mean,

0:42:38.920 --> 0:42:41.000
<v Speaker 1>the networks are going to be built to where the

0:42:41.080 --> 0:42:44.200
<v Speaker 1>customers are at a density that's high enough to justify

0:42:44.239 --> 0:42:47.080
<v Speaker 1>the expense. So I don't think it's really likely that

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna see carriers building out five G network infrastructure

0:42:51.719 --> 0:42:55.279
<v Speaker 1>surrounding hospitals to give that, you know, one thousand feet

0:42:55.320 --> 0:42:58.480
<v Speaker 1>of coverage in every direction now, so you'd have to

0:42:58.480 --> 0:43:01.600
<v Speaker 1>build multiple and tan is around your typical hospital to

0:43:01.880 --> 0:43:05.480
<v Speaker 1>really cover it. And even then, the high band stuff

0:43:05.560 --> 0:43:08.120
<v Speaker 1>is not gonna penetrate the walls of the hospital, so

0:43:09.040 --> 0:43:12.640
<v Speaker 1>there's some limited use here. Then we have the political angle.

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<v Speaker 1>The tech powering five G comes from all over the place,

0:43:16.000 --> 0:43:19.799
<v Speaker 1>including China, and one of the big companies that is

0:43:19.880 --> 0:43:23.120
<v Speaker 1>involved with five G technology is Whawei. But there are

0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:27.000
<v Speaker 1>some concerns among some governments in the world that a

0:43:27.040 --> 0:43:32.400
<v Speaker 1>communications network built atop a Chinese companies technology would be

0:43:32.480 --> 0:43:37.360
<v Speaker 1>vulnerable to backdoor snooping from Chinese government officials. There's a

0:43:37.360 --> 0:43:41.120
<v Speaker 1>concern that could be genuine or it could be manufactured,

0:43:41.120 --> 0:43:44.960
<v Speaker 1>depending upon the case that a technology is critical as

0:43:45.040 --> 0:43:49.560
<v Speaker 1>a communications infrastructure, could be made vulnerable to bad actors

0:43:49.760 --> 0:43:53.840
<v Speaker 1>from official Chinese sources. And since China has a reputation

0:43:53.920 --> 0:43:57.440
<v Speaker 1>for doing stuff like encouraging hackers to infiltrate systems and

0:43:57.480 --> 0:44:03.400
<v Speaker 1>other nations, that could concern is understandable. On top of that, however,

0:44:03.880 --> 0:44:07.719
<v Speaker 1>do you also have complicating matters like the trade disputes

0:44:08.120 --> 0:44:10.880
<v Speaker 1>between China and the United States, You know, and in

0:44:10.920 --> 0:44:14.240
<v Speaker 1>recent years, President Trump has taken a pretty hard stance

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<v Speaker 1>against China and any chance of China playing a part

0:44:17.800 --> 0:44:21.000
<v Speaker 1>in building out five G networks within the United States. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>whether that is from a genuine concern about national security,

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<v Speaker 1>or it's more of a part of a bargaining strategy

0:44:28.280 --> 0:44:31.120
<v Speaker 1>in a trade war, or maybe it's a bit of both,

0:44:31.560 --> 0:44:35.120
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of hard to say. Honestly, I think that

0:44:35.160 --> 0:44:38.880
<v Speaker 1>caution is warranted, largely because I think the Chinese government

0:44:38.920 --> 0:44:42.560
<v Speaker 1>would be really tempted to persuade Huahwei to incorporate backdoors

0:44:43.080 --> 0:44:46.880
<v Speaker 1>in their systems to allow for data collection and surveillance. Now,

0:44:46.960 --> 0:44:49.520
<v Speaker 1>I probably would have shrugged that off a few years ago,

0:44:49.719 --> 0:44:53.680
<v Speaker 1>just because the amount of useless information you would be

0:44:53.800 --> 0:44:57.440
<v Speaker 1>pulling in would be enormous, so the signal to noise

0:44:57.520 --> 0:44:59.239
<v Speaker 1>ratio would be all out of whack. You would have

0:44:59.239 --> 0:45:01.759
<v Speaker 1>way too much no ways and too little signal. But

0:45:01.840 --> 0:45:04.799
<v Speaker 1>now we're in the era of big data analysis, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's harder to dismiss those concerns out of hand,

0:45:07.880 --> 0:45:11.520
<v Speaker 1>because we're getting better at finding the signal even in

0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:15.040
<v Speaker 1>massive amounts of noise, thanks to stuff like machine learning

0:45:15.200 --> 0:45:18.760
<v Speaker 1>and artificial intelligence. So I'm a little more cautious now.

0:45:19.080 --> 0:45:22.200
<v Speaker 1>And then we get to the conspiracy theories. Now, I

0:45:22.239 --> 0:45:25.759
<v Speaker 1>am not certain how these things get started. For some people,

0:45:25.800 --> 0:45:28.319
<v Speaker 1>it may just be a joke, uh, this idea that

0:45:28.400 --> 0:45:31.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, the wireless technology was creating health issues. With

0:45:32.000 --> 0:45:36.880
<v Speaker 1>more recent incidents, specifically attempting to link five G technology

0:45:36.960 --> 0:45:41.440
<v Speaker 1>with the spread of coronavirus. There's long been a belief

0:45:41.680 --> 0:45:47.120
<v Speaker 1>among some people that radio waves are somehow affecting them adversely,

0:45:47.440 --> 0:45:50.600
<v Speaker 1>even though there's not really any real scientific evidence to

0:45:50.719 --> 0:45:55.240
<v Speaker 1>show a means for how that would happen. Radio transmissions

0:45:55.280 --> 0:45:59.600
<v Speaker 1>don't have the same sort of of impact on us

0:45:59.640 --> 0:46:04.200
<v Speaker 1>that high energy electromagnetic radiation can have. You know, stuff

0:46:04.239 --> 0:46:07.279
<v Speaker 1>like in the X ray and gamma ray range. That

0:46:07.320 --> 0:46:10.480
<v Speaker 1>stuff can have a real effect on us. Radio waves

0:46:10.480 --> 0:46:13.920
<v Speaker 1>have not really been shown to do that. Um, if

0:46:13.960 --> 0:46:17.000
<v Speaker 1>you were to do double blind tests with these people,

0:46:17.040 --> 0:46:20.000
<v Speaker 1>at least the ones I've seen, the one the studies

0:46:20.040 --> 0:46:22.640
<v Speaker 1>I've read, they've used double blind tests don't really show

0:46:22.640 --> 0:46:27.480
<v Speaker 1>any proof that anything is really happening. A double blind,

0:46:27.520 --> 0:46:30.279
<v Speaker 1>by the way, is a test in which neither the

0:46:30.320 --> 0:46:34.280
<v Speaker 1>subject of the test or the person administering the test

0:46:34.840 --> 0:46:38.359
<v Speaker 1>knows if that subject is in a control group or not,

0:46:38.880 --> 0:46:42.719
<v Speaker 1>or under control conditions or not. Uh that way, the

0:46:42.760 --> 0:46:46.800
<v Speaker 1>person who's administering the test can't give any hints or

0:46:46.880 --> 0:46:50.120
<v Speaker 1>clues or indications to the subject about whether or not

0:46:51.000 --> 0:46:54.759
<v Speaker 1>the actual thing that's being tested is happening. So, in

0:46:54.800 --> 0:46:58.520
<v Speaker 1>the case of someone who's concerned about electromagnetic radiation, you

0:46:58.520 --> 0:47:03.719
<v Speaker 1>could design a test where an administrator takes the subject

0:47:03.719 --> 0:47:05.960
<v Speaker 1>to a room that may or may not have an

0:47:06.000 --> 0:47:10.160
<v Speaker 1>active radio transmitter of some sort inside that room, and

0:47:10.200 --> 0:47:13.239
<v Speaker 1>the person who's administering the test would also not know

0:47:13.680 --> 0:47:17.040
<v Speaker 1>if the antenna were active or if anything was happening

0:47:17.040 --> 0:47:19.520
<v Speaker 1>in that room, So they wouldn't be able to indicate

0:47:19.560 --> 0:47:22.960
<v Speaker 1>to the subject, Hey, you're going into a control room

0:47:22.960 --> 0:47:25.359
<v Speaker 1>where nothing's happening, or you're going into an actual test

0:47:25.440 --> 0:47:29.360
<v Speaker 1>room you're gonna get bombarded by radio waves. Neither party

0:47:29.400 --> 0:47:31.759
<v Speaker 1>would know, and it would only be after the test

0:47:31.880 --> 0:47:34.600
<v Speaker 1>was fully run and the results were looked at that

0:47:34.640 --> 0:47:37.759
<v Speaker 1>you would be able to see was there any connection

0:47:38.040 --> 0:47:40.839
<v Speaker 1>between when we were running a control and when we

0:47:40.840 --> 0:47:44.600
<v Speaker 1>were running an actual test and the supposed reactions from

0:47:44.600 --> 0:47:47.880
<v Speaker 1>the subject. As far as I've seen, none of that

0:47:48.040 --> 0:47:50.440
<v Speaker 1>is really paid off, Like it just doesn't show that

0:47:50.520 --> 0:47:56.000
<v Speaker 1>there's any actual causal link between radio waves and a

0:47:56.080 --> 0:48:02.200
<v Speaker 1>person's alleged symptoms or or actions to it. Getting back

0:48:02.239 --> 0:48:06.919
<v Speaker 1>to the conspiracies, it's possible that some people conflated five

0:48:07.000 --> 0:48:11.320
<v Speaker 1>G as being related to coronavirus because the reports were

0:48:11.360 --> 0:48:15.320
<v Speaker 1>that the earliest cases of coronavirus originated out of China,

0:48:15.440 --> 0:48:20.640
<v Speaker 1>and thus those people made some big leaps beyond logic

0:48:21.120 --> 0:48:25.120
<v Speaker 1>that coronavirus emerged from China. Chinese companies are involved with

0:48:25.160 --> 0:48:29.359
<v Speaker 1>creating five G technology. Therefore five G technologies somehow has

0:48:29.400 --> 0:48:32.759
<v Speaker 1>something to do with transmitting of virus. But I don't

0:48:32.760 --> 0:48:34.920
<v Speaker 1>think I need to spend any real time at all

0:48:34.960 --> 0:48:37.800
<v Speaker 1>pointing out how none of that really makes any sense.

0:48:38.080 --> 0:48:43.280
<v Speaker 1>There's no linking there. We've seen this escalate in some places,

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<v Speaker 1>including incidents of people setting fire to masks, that is,

0:48:47.200 --> 0:48:50.799
<v Speaker 1>the polls that hold up network equipment. We saw that

0:48:50.880 --> 0:48:54.120
<v Speaker 1>happen several times in the UK. Whether those fires were

0:48:54.120 --> 0:48:57.000
<v Speaker 1>started by people who genuinely believe that five G is

0:48:57.040 --> 0:49:01.680
<v Speaker 1>somehow transmitting a virus, which again is not possible, or

0:49:01.719 --> 0:49:05.279
<v Speaker 1>that the five G antenna's posed some other sort of

0:49:05.360 --> 0:49:08.520
<v Speaker 1>health hazard, or maybe they're just trying to stir up trouble,

0:49:08.760 --> 0:49:12.160
<v Speaker 1>I can't say, but I can say that physical damage

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<v Speaker 1>isn't something easy to defend when it comes to this

0:49:16.080 --> 0:49:19.600
<v Speaker 1>sort of thing. Maybe some of this links back to

0:49:19.760 --> 0:49:23.840
<v Speaker 1>technologies that are just so complex and so sophisticated that

0:49:23.920 --> 0:49:27.319
<v Speaker 1>they are beyond the understanding of the average person. I mean,

0:49:27.320 --> 0:49:30.200
<v Speaker 1>there's a famous saying I believe it is Arthur C.

0:49:30.200 --> 0:49:34.560
<v Speaker 1>Clarke who said that any technology that's sufficiently sophisticate enough

0:49:34.600 --> 0:49:38.359
<v Speaker 1>will be indistinguishable from magic. The idea being that if

0:49:38.360 --> 0:49:41.400
<v Speaker 1>it's so complicated that you cannot understand how it works.

0:49:42.000 --> 0:49:44.560
<v Speaker 1>You might as well be told it's magic. It will

0:49:44.560 --> 0:49:46.520
<v Speaker 1>make no difference to you because you won't be able

0:49:46.520 --> 0:49:49.960
<v Speaker 1>to understand it either way. And the fact is that

0:49:49.960 --> 0:49:53.280
<v Speaker 1>people want explanations. They want to be able to understand

0:49:53.320 --> 0:49:57.839
<v Speaker 1>why things are happening, and in the the lack of

0:49:57.880 --> 0:50:02.560
<v Speaker 1>an explanation, they might to conclusions that are not really supportable,

0:50:03.000 --> 0:50:05.759
<v Speaker 1>but they might be comforting because they offer up an

0:50:05.800 --> 0:50:08.520
<v Speaker 1>explanation for the thing that is happening in the world

0:50:08.560 --> 0:50:11.840
<v Speaker 1>around them. Um, it's a lot easier to take a

0:50:11.960 --> 0:50:15.319
<v Speaker 1>fake explanation and and accept that than to try and

0:50:15.440 --> 0:50:18.680
<v Speaker 1>understand the real explanations. In some cases you have to

0:50:18.719 --> 0:50:21.840
<v Speaker 1>do fewer Furrier transforms if you're talking about fake science,

0:50:21.840 --> 0:50:25.640
<v Speaker 1>for example, So that kind of wraps up what five

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<v Speaker 1>G is and what it isn't, and it is really confusing.

0:50:30.040 --> 0:50:32.759
<v Speaker 1>It's a It's easy to understand why people would get

0:50:33.680 --> 0:50:36.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of hung up on all this part of it,

0:50:36.120 --> 0:50:40.960
<v Speaker 1>because the marketing messages have been really pushing hard on

0:50:41.000 --> 0:50:43.160
<v Speaker 1>a narrative that I don't think is really going to

0:50:43.280 --> 0:50:45.480
<v Speaker 1>play out in the real world, at least not the

0:50:45.520 --> 0:50:50.120
<v Speaker 1>way the marketing makes it seem. Um. On the flip side.

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<v Speaker 1>We have people who are either just desperately looking for

0:50:54.160 --> 0:50:57.640
<v Speaker 1>answers or are looking to stir up trouble and thus

0:50:57.719 --> 0:51:01.920
<v Speaker 1>are spreading fake stories. So I get it, but I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to try and clear things up as best I could.

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