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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Let's go. Are you

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Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that.

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Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: It is Wednesday Unite, twenty twenty one, Season sixteen, episode

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Speaker 1: number one thirteen. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break.

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Speaker 1: We are live from the s WBC Mortgage studios at

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Speaker 1: the Star and we're represented by Geico. It is our

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Speaker 1: final show before a little bit of a break, and

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Speaker 1: so we've gonna get you guys ready for training camp.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna play a game for you guys today, call

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Speaker 1: what we Know, What we don't Know. We're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: about each position on the team, and these guys are

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Speaker 1: gonna tell you what we know coming out of the

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Speaker 1: know about each of those positions to get you ready

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Speaker 1: and give you kind of a roadmap as to what

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Speaker 1: we'll be looking for. As the Cowboys entered the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one training camp in Oxnard, California, later in July.

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Speaker 1: How's everybody doing today, I'm I'm I'm so good. I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm excited. I thought you weren't going to be with

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Speaker 1: us for the last show, so I was I'm pumped

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Speaker 1: Last week because Nike said no shows on Wednesday was

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Speaker 1: tell you guys do a good job at training camp,

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Speaker 1: that you guys give us information. Don't screw it up,

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Speaker 1: don't make us believe one thing, and then the season

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Speaker 1: stars and we believe we see another. So don't mess

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Speaker 1: it up. Not be judging from the outside. The foundation

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Speaker 1: like it always happens. We always have our camp gladiators

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Speaker 1: game where we start breaking down this team. Heading into

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Speaker 1: and tomorrow, and then the veterans will leave and not

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Speaker 1: So it's hard to rank, you know, because would you

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Speaker 1: He's not carrying that team. That defense carried that team

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Speaker 1: have talked about the quarterback in the running back position.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about tight end. Nick, you mentioned what you

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Speaker 1: would do if if you got in to the preseason,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you got the training camp and had

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Speaker 1: some other options there. I like Schultz, Yeah, let don't.

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Speaker 1: I mean I'd like I think I'd like Schultz before

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Speaker 1: anyone else did. I do like him, but I don't

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Speaker 1: think he was a huge difference maker. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think he sat in his zone and caught the ball

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Speaker 1: and it was a safety valve and all that. But

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's a guy that you go into

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Speaker 1: the season and you ever go into game plans and

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Speaker 1: teams are really worried about. I think he's just he

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Speaker 1: benefits and just like Jarwin's gonna benefit this offense, guys

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Speaker 1: around him, you're gonna benefit for being but a Jarwin's

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Speaker 1: a little bit more explosive down the seam and will

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Speaker 1: be a little bit we'll be a better player. But

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Speaker 1: I don't see you guys keep saying twelve personnel, two

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Speaker 1: tight ends. I don't think this is a good setup.

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Speaker 1: These two guys aren't good blockers. Usually one of them

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Speaker 1: is a better blocker. So this particular twelve personnel, just

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Speaker 1: because they're tight ends, I don't think that they I

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Speaker 1: don't think they benefit. I don't think they could just

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Speaker 1: run over people because Jarwin and Schultz are in the game.

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Speaker 1: So that's why I think. I think it's a one

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Speaker 1: in three situation, you know, like a the one consider

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Speaker 1: a better blocker. Sprinkle's got to be a better blocker.

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Speaker 1: If you had twos, be think those two though, who

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Speaker 1: do you think is the better blocker of the two? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: probably Schultz, A probably Jarwin. But it's that clue. I

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Speaker 1: mean it's that I think of him similarly. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: kind of agree, and I and I thought, huh with

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Speaker 1: which one? I agree that it's it's kind of close,

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Speaker 1: there's not. Honestly, I don't think there's a big difference

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Speaker 1: between the two when it comes to blocking, and to

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Speaker 1: be honest with you, what I saw last year from Schultz,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure that even as pass catchers, I see

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Speaker 1: a huge difference between Like, Schultz made some plays down

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Speaker 1: the field. He made some plays that that he had

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Speaker 1: to show some athleticism. Um and sometimes after he got

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Speaker 1: the ball in his hands, he showed some athleticism. So

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Speaker 1: I don't know that. I think I thought before last year,

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Speaker 1: to last year, I was like, why is he still

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Speaker 1: on the team. Uh, he showed me a lot last year.

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Speaker 1: I think he's just as good as Jarwin. I don't

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Speaker 1: think you lose anything one versus the other. I just

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Speaker 1: think from like twenty yards down the field, I think

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Speaker 1: it takes about twelve steps for Schultz to get there.

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Speaker 1: I think it takes about seven for Jarwin's. Wow, that's

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Speaker 1: a different I don't agree with you for whatever. Maybe

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Speaker 1: that's an eager but but it's I'm talking about just

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Speaker 1: how quickly he gets down the field. I mean, Jarwin,

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Speaker 1: he just eats up yards and that's why his average

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Speaker 1: is pretty high. So everybody was excited about what they

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Speaker 1: were going to get out of him last year, and

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Speaker 1: I'm you know, I think it'll be I think, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I just think he is a more of a difference

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Speaker 1: maker than Schultz. But I give Schultz credit for what

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Speaker 1: he did last year. And Schultz made some plays downfield

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Speaker 1: last year, like he had a nice touchdown against Atlanta Cleveland,

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Speaker 1: probably twenty twenty five yards down the field, like he

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Speaker 1: did it. But I don't I disagree with you, Like

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Speaker 1: I really I agree with nick. Jarwin has a little

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Speaker 1: bit more of an explosive element to his game, like

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Speaker 1: what he can do in the seam. If you remember

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Speaker 1: the yak touchdown that he had against the Giants a

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Speaker 1: couple of years ago where he caught it, Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: was like a ten yard catch, but he scored a

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Speaker 1: thirty yard touchdowns. He just outran everybody and slipped a

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Speaker 1: tackle too. Like I think he's a better athlete just

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Speaker 1: bottom line, And that's exciting. But I mean, if he

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Speaker 1: can get down the scene with all the attention you

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Speaker 1: got to pay to everybody else, but when the season started,

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Speaker 1: everyone was excited about Jarwin and said the stats will

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Speaker 1: be sixty four catches for five hundred yards, five touchdowns

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Speaker 1: or four touchdowns, which is exactly what that's Schultz's numbers.

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Speaker 1: I think everyone would have been excited about that. So,

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Speaker 1: not trying to talk out of both sides of my mouth,

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Speaker 1: but I just think there's upsides, is still a little

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Speaker 1: bit more. That's probably the best you're going to get

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Speaker 1: out of Schultz. Probably. I do think he's still a

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Speaker 1: young and developing player, and so I think last year

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Speaker 1: was just the year where he broke out because mainly

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Speaker 1: because he got opportunities, and I think we saw from

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Speaker 1: him last year that he is more than adequate in

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Speaker 1: this offense to play that role. Okay, to answer the

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Speaker 1: question what we don't know, and I'll say that what

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Speaker 1: we don't know about them is how those two guys

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Speaker 1: will work together and benefit the Cowboys as a twelve personnel.

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Speaker 1: Those two can they when they're both in the game,

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Speaker 1: Are you worried about the team's worried about the way

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Speaker 1: they run the ball because they're two tight ends in there.

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Speaker 1: That's what I don't know. Yeah, and that would be

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Speaker 1: it would be disappointing if you had to run, which

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Speaker 1: no disrespect to Jeremy Sprinkle, but if you had to

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Speaker 1: take one of them off the field to use multiple

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Speaker 1: tight ends, or if you had to use like Big eleven,

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Speaker 1: like use Jarwin as your slot receiver and take one

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Speaker 1: of those receivers off the field. I don't like the

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Speaker 1: sound of that. It was a baller in college though,

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Speaker 1: Sprinkle Sprinkle, he's I mean as a pass catcher, right,

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Speaker 1: and he has he has had a decent Like his

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Speaker 1: stats are not terrible for a guy who's never been

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Speaker 1: you know, a starting caliber tight end. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: guess that's my point. Like I think if you see

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Speaker 1: twelve personnel, I think it's actually gonna be with one

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Speaker 1: of those two plus Sprinkle. Yeah, I think that's the

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Speaker 1: where you get an advantage because you have one that

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Speaker 1: can literally stay in and block if you needed him

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Speaker 1: to so. And this team likes Let's do not forget

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Speaker 1: about Sean McEwen. They like him and if you watch

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Speaker 1: some practice out there, he seems like he's always doing something.

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Speaker 1: Guy know, Jarwin's not out there, but McEwan is a

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Speaker 1: guy that you know they like. And we'll see by

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Speaker 1: the any rookies the tight TCU tied end Lynn maybe, yeah,

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Speaker 1: don't make me say. I think it's like number forty seven.

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Speaker 1: And they got a kid from Michigan too, looks the part. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he looks the part. Nick Eubanks, Nick Eubanks, Yes, that's

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Speaker 1: the guy that gets off the bus. He's that kind

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Speaker 1: of guy. I don't know about you Banks. I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about seven. Oh well, who's Artavious Land No that you're

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Speaker 1: forty nine. That's the one. He It has like twenty

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Speaker 1: catches in his career at TCU. You know they weren't

606
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Speaker 1: like feeding him the ball. But yeah, all right, let's

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Speaker 1: I guess. I just I just don't know what it's

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Speaker 1: going to look like. Really, we did talk about tight

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Speaker 1: end a lot. Yeah, I thought this is where we

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Speaker 1: would make up some ground on the quick. We got time,

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Speaker 1: We got plenty of time. We can get through all

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Speaker 1: of these. I thin say, so, let's go to wide recess.

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Speaker 1: If you say so, let's go to wide receiver. What

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Speaker 1: do we know? What do we don't know? We know

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Speaker 1: that they have arguably the best receiving corps in the league.

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Speaker 1: I think only Tampa, not even not even Tennessee even

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Speaker 1: with Julio, Like, I mean, they don't have one of

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Speaker 1: the three, they don't have the best duo, but they

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Speaker 1: arguably have the best trio in the league. I think,

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Speaker 1: really only Tampa can compete. Um, there's another team. I

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Speaker 1: was thinking it had a good trio too, and I

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Speaker 1: can't remember who it was. I'll take I'll take Dallas

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Speaker 1: that third guy is just there because like whoever the

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Speaker 1: third guy in Tennessee is, I don't even know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: either that's my three year or something. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: There ever, it is, there are four or five teams

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Speaker 1: that have a better duo than the Cowboys, in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: whether that's Tennessee, Tampa obviously can say that when the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys duo is undefined. I mean we could we could

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Speaker 1: go around on the table and probably have different I mean,

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Speaker 1: but I just a CD and and I guess as

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Speaker 1: clear as CD and Cooper, right clear, I think. So

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Speaker 1: I don't know, that's tough because like I'm the guy

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Speaker 1: that's always like stop disrespecting Michael Gallup. But like if

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Speaker 1: you made me pick two of the thirty, I think

637
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Speaker 1: I think Gallup is a really good receiver. And I

638
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: will tell you this, I'm I'm very interested to see

639
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: and Nicky I talked about this yesterday. I'm very interested

640
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: to see how he performs this year because he is

641
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: in that range where there may be a team out

642
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: there that looks at how he performs this year and

643
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: says we'll pay him one or two number one, number

644
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: two wide receiver money, and it'll make it tough for

645
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: the Cowboys in that situation unless they're planning to move

646
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: on from say Cooper, and it will make a tough

647
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: decision for the Cowboys of which one they value more

648
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: where they are in their career. So I think he's

649
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: right there on that cusp of that kind of guy.

650
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: What we know, CD Lamb will be on the roster

651
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two. Yeah, yeah, what we don't good point, Yeah,

652
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know for sure about Cooper. He's

653
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: under contract, right, Yeah, but they get out of it.

654
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: His guarantees are done. They got loaded the heck out

655
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: of that contract. Man. I mean, he was so good, like, well,

656
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: we don't have to worry about that. They don't have

657
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: to worry about it. Knock on wood. Yeah, I mean,

658
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: not like twenty twenty two is going to bring a

659
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: whole host of questions, but knocking on wood and we're

660
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: talking about training camp, they have arguably the best trio

661
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: in the league. They are all healthy and in their

662
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: prime and look like they're ready to light the league

663
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: on fire. Which and I know the quarterback back. Yeah,

664
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: and it didn't come with you know, even when Dak

665
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: was there. We know they had a losing record, I

666
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: get it, YadA YadA, but they were prolific, Like they

667
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: were all on pace for like twelve hundred yards before

668
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: Dak got hurt. I actually I said this on the

669
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: radio the other day, Big lsu Homer here, but even

670
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: I'm kind of like, let's let's settle down on the

671
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson hype because he got to play a whole

672
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:58,959
Speaker 1: season with the right circumstances. C D had a fantastic season.

673
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: And I mean there were drops he had, he had

674
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: some problems. It wasn't all perfect, but I think I

675
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: think people would be talking about him a lot more

676
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: if he had had better circumstances. And I you know,

677
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: people are like, well, why did all these other receivers

678
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: get drafted before Justin Jefferson, I'm like, wait, just wait

679
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: a minute, Like, let's just wait a year and see

680
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: if you're still saying that when CD gets to go

681
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: through year two with Dak and have a better offense.

682
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: And I'll say this, one of the things about receivers

683
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: for me is in their rookie year, I know they're

684
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: going to be challenges because that's the nature of going

685
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: to the NFL. But look at the kind of catches

686
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: they make. That'll tell you a lot about what you

687
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: can project them to be. In some of the catches

688
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: he made, I don't know if ninety percent of the

689
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: receivers in the NFL can make, he would have won.

690
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: He made some amazing catches. He would have won Rookie

691
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: of the Year with one catch against Pittsburgh Baltimore. Baltimore. Yeah,

692
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,479
Speaker 1: I mean, I hate calling it a drop. It was

693
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: fifty five yards down the field and I didn't really

694
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: know Andy Dalton could sling it like that, But right

695
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: before the half, remember that, hell mat I mean, if

696
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: he went up and snagged that, that would have been

697
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: one of the highlights of the year. Yeah. I'm not

698
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: saying maybe he doesn't beat Jefferson. His numbers were incredible.

699
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: But um I here's one more point about Gallup. I

700
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: would do everything I could to resign him if I'm

701
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. What I like about him not not anything

702
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: to do with with on the field. He's great there,

703
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: he's a deep threat, but he is he is not

704
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: the prototype when it comes to DIVA wide receivers. He

705
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 1: likes to share the ball. He likes to be a

706
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: part of this um. He even said one game was

707
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:34,959
Speaker 1: it you know I had a hundred yards at the half.

708
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: You know, somebody else needs. He has that mentality where

709
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 1: he's not a problem. It's not a problem. If Harper

710
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 1: had a lot of great plays in a game, that

711
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: that's good for the Cowboys. But Michael Irvin had a

712
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: problem with it, not not saying that they didn't like

713
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: each other, but saying, Michael one of the ball. And

714
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 1: then you can say that there was a dog mentality

715
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: and all that. And I still think Gallup has it.

716
00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: But I think he is a great, great fit for

717
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: other star receivers, and I would do what I could

718
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: to resign him. Hell yeah, it just sounds like, sounds hard,

719
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: sounds tough to know because and that's you know, maybe

720
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: more than more than Cooper than is what I'm really saying. Okay,

721
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: I mean, he's really got to have a subpar year

722
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: or the Cowboys have to make a tough decision between

723
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: him and Cooper. Right, there is no way between. If

724
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: he has a great year, then it's I think it's

725
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: going to be very difficult to sign him to a

726
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: contract that other teams aren't willing to beat. And then

727
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: it becomes situations does he just want to be here

728
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: for less money? But I don't suspect that's going to

729
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 1: be the case. So all that being said, like it's

730
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 1: a it's a tough situation to be in with a

731
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: guy like that, in in a in a three you know,

732
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: in a three way. I mean, he's got three wide

733
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: receivers on this team that are all really good. And

734
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 1: this goes back to my you know, we had that

735
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: argument with Danny McCrae. I think, and this, I love Coop,

736
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 1: but this is where I'm like, well, let's let's respect.

737
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: Let's put some respect on Amari Cooper too, because I

738
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: think he's the top ten receiver in the league. And

739
00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: people kind of balk at me when I say that

740
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: he's not. He's not like, he's not Hopkins, he's not

741
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: He's not top three, and the disappearing acts, the road problems,

742
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 1: that's all fair, but that last season, coming off what

743
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: he did, really only had one bad game, and it

744
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: was when Denucci was the quarterback. He was consistent. Everybody,

745
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: everybody had a bad game. Then it was one of

746
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,959
Speaker 1: the worst professional football games I've ever watched in my life.

747
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: But week after week he's a route technician, he's a

748
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: deep threat. He I mean, I I think not enough

749
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,720
Speaker 1: people appreciate how good Amari Cooper really is. So unless

750
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 1: and we can never predict it, like maybe he gets

751
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: hurt and missus eight games and then all of a sudden,

752
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: it is a tough conversation. But if they get seventeen

753
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: weeks of what Cooper did last year, I don't think

754
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: it's even close in terms of who I'd rather have

755
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: no offense to Mike, you know what. Going back to

756
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,720
Speaker 1: focusing on this year specifically and going back to Nick's

757
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: point of all, like Michael Gallup and how he is,

758
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: That's one of the things that I was going to

759
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 1: mention that I'd really like about this group is that

760
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: it's it's like a quiet group. And even though to

761
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,720
Speaker 1: me many many times last year, I would forget about

762
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper, like he wouldn't make necessary, like really flashy plays,

763
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: and it was like, how much has he played? And

764
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: then you look at the end of the game the

765
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,919
Speaker 1: stats and you're like, oh, oh, crap, okay, so and

766
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: that's not necessarily a bad thing. I mean, that's great

767
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: when you have guys that don't necessarily are causing that

768
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 1: much attention, but they're being really productive on the field.

769
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: And those two guys, I think that City Lamb he

770
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: can be that, he can become that kind of diva guy.

771
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: He has the attitude and the skill for it. He

772
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: could become that. He isn't that yet or anything, but

773
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: I think that because he's surrounded by two guys like that,

774
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:50,879
Speaker 1: it's pulling him back as far as maintaining that teammate thing.

775
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: You know that it just works. You know, it just works,

776
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: and they're fine with being spreading things around with each

777
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: other and not taking old I need more plays or whatever.

778
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 1: I think that right now. I just love how this

779
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 1: trio works, and I love Celey Lamb's attitude and the

780
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: fact that he's talking about being more aggressive for next

781
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: year and some of the things that we have been

782
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 1: able to see during these practices. I mean, it's freaking

783
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: impressive the fact that he's still looking like that, and

784
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: this is just the beginning for him. So it's really

785
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: really exciting to see that the Cowboys do have this

786
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: trio for this year. Yeah, I agree with you. I

787
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: think the reason why Cooper isn't as respected I think

788
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 1: sometimes or at least not put in that category across

789
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: the league with those great receivers because he's not as flashy.

790
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: He makes things that are not ordinary look easy, and

791
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: so I think people just kind of think, oh, well,

792
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: he was just open. Well there's something he did to

793
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: get open to make that play. And I just think

794
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,280
Speaker 1: that's a part of his game that people don't respect

795
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: as much as they should. All right, let's move on.

796
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the offensive line. What do we know?

797
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 1: What do we don't know? What do we don't know?

798
00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: Probably is Tyrn Smith, you know, we don't know, Joe Looney,

799
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: I don't don't We don't know about the center position.

800
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 1: This is the position where we probably got more I

801
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: don't know, And that's interesting to say on a team

802
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: like this with that defense, I know, don't know how

803
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 1: many games Tyrant's gonna play, Zach Martin is gonna line

804
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: up at right guard. He'll be that, He'll be there.

805
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: That's I mean, And I mean, you know, this is

806
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: this is what I'm saying. I know I was I

807
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 1: thought you were done. Oh no, so I just this

808
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: is what like, this is the epitome of optimism season,

809
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: and it is. It's exciting, you know, Tyrn, He's talked

810
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 1: multiple times in the last week. He's he's in a

811
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: he's in a fantastic mood. Like he's smiling from year

812
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: to year. Oh yeah, no, I like he's he's not

813
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: a jerk, but he's just kind of a low key,

814
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 1: stoic guy. And he seems yeah, he seems to be

815
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: much more bubbly, which is never a word that I

816
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: thought I would just to ever do it. Never never

817
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 1: said a word. Yeah, no, I don't know. I just

818
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: get the best to ever do it. Said a word. No,

819
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: that's not uncommon. He's going in the Hall of Fame.

820
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 1: It's just a cloud. I don't know. Man him and

821
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,919
Speaker 1: his wife. His wife came and got him. He knew

822
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: that he was the one. That's funny. My point, it's

823
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: this is the time of year like everybody feels great,

824
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: like the surgery when amazing and I feel awesome, and

825
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 1: I'm you know, Tyrn's gonna play till the wheels fall off.

826
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: That's what he said yesterday, and I hope that's true,

827
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: but I don't know it. That's all the same, I mean,

828
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: same thing goes for Lyle, honestly, like hip injuries. That

829
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: sounds really scary when you know your whole job is

830
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: leveraging gigantic strong people. So man, I really, I really,

831
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna hold up. I've been bullish on

832
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 1: them this whole time, and everything we're seeing suggests that

833
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: they're in a good spot. But you just don't know,

834
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: and it's that's scary. I just I don't want to

835
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: I don't want to be in where are we going

836
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: week two? LA? I don't want to be in LA,

837
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: And like you know, two quarters into the second game

838
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: of the year, we're talking about this again. I hope

839
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: that doesn't happen. But we just don't know he's done well.

840
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: We know that sac Marine can do a good job

841
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: at tackle, so yeah, that's one thing we do know.

842
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: Other than that, I mean, there are many things we

843
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: don't know for this whole thing we know that I

844
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: think this group has I think this group has the

845
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,919
Speaker 1: potential to be their best line in a few years,

846
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: because because of this injury, it hasn't been like that's

847
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: that's five years ago that the Dallas line had this

848
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 1: amazing reputation. But I think they have the potential. Probably

849
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: not as good as like Cleveland or some of these

850
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: other great lines that have come up in the last

851
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 1: few years, but much better than what we've gotten used

852
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: to seeing since twenty seventeen. I think this team has

853
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: a borderline problem at center. And I don't. Yeah, I don't.

854
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: I don't like what they have at center. You're not

855
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: a fan of of of their their young guys. You

856
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: don't like what Andy Dalton said, No, no, but but no,

857
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: I don't like. I don't like the fact that you're

858
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: putting all your eggs on in the basket of Beotish,

859
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: a fifth round pick who got hurt in pregame warm

860
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: ups last year with his hamstring injury. That bothers me too.

861
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: And then and then who's the backup Farniak? Why don't

862
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: they put Connor Williams over there at least to try.

863
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know Connor McGovern, Connor McGovern, he

864
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: was a fourth round pick, just that. But I mean

865
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: they trade it up. Yeah, I mean he was picked

866
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: one forty six. It's not a big difference. I think

867
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: he's fifth round. I keep saying, semi Phojokos is six.

868
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: The's a fifth. Once you get to day three, it

869
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: just blurs together. It's fine, looks like an eighth um.

870
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 1: But I thought I played last year. I thought he

871
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: played okay for a rookie on that offensive line. Yeah, yeah,

872
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: I played okay for rookie like like like, I think

873
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: that's that's right, that's what standard. And you hope that

874
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: he's gonna get better and all that. But if not,

875
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,760
Speaker 1: then what like, I don't I don't like the position

876
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 1: as that stands right now. I need even if it's

877
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: a backup, if it's Joe Looney, whoever, I need a

878
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: backup that will be like if we have to play him,

879
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: he's played four or five years. I need that journeyman

880
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: guy that can at least back him up. It can't

881
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: be farniok as the guy so or even McGovern. So.

882
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: I just there's something about this position. It's just unsettling

883
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 1: right now, and that's we did a whole segment on

884
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 1: it last week. We don't have to do it again.

885
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: But their whole thing always every position is like we're

886
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 1: gonna try to create competition, and that center, it's we

887
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: got Tyler and if that doesn't work, we got like

888
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: four guys who did this five years ago in college.

889
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: Like that's you know, even McGovern's taken snaps and OTAs

890
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: like a few times, he's never done it in a

891
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: meaningful situation. Connor Williams, I don't know if he's ever

892
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: played center in a game, even in college, because he

893
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: was All American tackle. So it's just weird to think

894
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: that that that's what they would go to training camp with,

895
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: which is why we talked about Joe Looney for like

896
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: a because I think they need the competition and be

897
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 1: because we all like Joe, Like I hope he is

898
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 1: on the plane when they eventually get ready to go,

899
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,760
Speaker 1: but I don't, And I'm okay if he's your backup,

900
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: I'm okay if he's your backup, because I love him

901
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 1: as a backup. I mean center, guard, guard, he goes

902
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,720
Speaker 1: to the game, he can fill in at any spot,

903
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: and if be honest, is the guy beats him out

904
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: and they really want him to win the job. But

905
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: Looney's right there kind of behind him pushing him. I'm

906
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 1: fine with that. I'd feel better about it. They can't

907
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: be Farniac pushing Beadish. I mean, I don't know. It's

908
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: just unsettling. This might be a dumb question, but I'm

909
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: not trying to be funny or anything. How difficult is

910
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: it really to find decent offensive lineman because I mean

911
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 1: I feel like every year, whether it's the tackle position

912
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: or maybe I mean, guard hasn't been questioned as much

913
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: as I mean Connor william has been questioned during his

914
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: time here, but now center, I've like every year there's

915
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: some there's always a big doubt, whether it's on whatever

916
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 1: side of the line that the Cowboys have, And I

917
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 1: just it makes me wonder about the rest of the NFL.

918
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 1: I don't really keep up with kind of what their

919
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 1: backups are other than quarterback and pass rusher. I mean,

920
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,439
Speaker 1: it's it's absolutely one of the hardest things to do,

921
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 1: is to especially more so tackle like it, you know,

922
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: and that's what you know, centers tend not to get

923
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: drafted highly kind of going in the nose tackle argument.

924
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 1: Kind of fill that. When they drafted Travis thirty first overall,

925
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: everybody freaked out saying you could get him in the

926
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: third round because centers are undervalued. But just in general,

927
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: like finding quality offensive lineman is very hard to do,

928
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 1: mainly because the differences in blocking schemes to college, what

929
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 1: they ask their players to do, the caliber of players

930
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: they go against. So I mean this is a league

931
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 1: wide problem. Like if you if you if your top

932
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: five get hurt, you're typically in a world of trouble.

933
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: That's not just the Cowboys. And last year they had

934
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:02,919
Speaker 1: a lot of injuries and it was at those two

935
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: premium positions at tackle, right and left tackle. So I think, yeah,

936
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: I think it's a hard position to be able to find.

937
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 1: Let's go and take our final break. When we come back,

938
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939
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,719
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940
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985
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Speaker 1: Let's start the defensive line. What do we know? What

986
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: do we don't know? Can we just do the whole

987
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: defense and be like we don't know anything, we don't know?

988
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: You know, some things come on, I know that they

989
00:48:55,560 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 1: have one. Brandy Gregory is having his best offseason he's

990
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: ever had. True because he's having it off season. Never

991
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: sorry that Michael Parsons is looking to be a badass. Okay,

992
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 1: he is everything that he's just shown so far in

993
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 1: the way he's baps, Yeah, backup tackles and stuff like that, Like, no, no,

994
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,280
Speaker 1: we need he needs to go up against Zach Martins

995
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 1: And I don't know. I don't know what any of

996
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: it's gonna look like like I do. Yeah, Randy Gregory

997
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 1: is having a great offseason because it's the first time

998
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: he's ever had one. Michael Parsons does look really exciting.

999
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: But do I know how much he's gonna be on

1000
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 1: the field? Do I know what his role is? Not?

1001
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: Really he's doing a little bit of everything. Do I know?

1002
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: You know DeMarcus Lawrence is a rehab guy right now,

1003
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 1: He's not really practicing, which is fine. I don't care,

1004
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 1: but I just I'm not I'm not seeing him. Um,

1005
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: they rotate the defensive line and which the alignment every

1006
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: other rep. I mean, they're they're doing it. Looks I

1007
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: hate saying this because it's a bummer, but it looks

1008
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 1: a lot like last year in terms of, you know,

1009
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 1: the four man front and then the dropping and the

1010
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: three man front, and they're using different personnel. I just

1011
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: don't I don't know. I think Bryn Urban is going

1012
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: to be more of a factor on the defense. Then

1013
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: Davean saying that, Yeah, that's right. I gotta give you credit.

1014
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: You've been saying it. I know, I mean, I know,

1015
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 1: I know when we go up to Canton for the Hall,

1016
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 1: for the Hall of Fame, a game and all that, Um,

1017
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 1: they're gonna be sizing Bohanna's like bust and stuff like that.

1018
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: That just get him him ready, getting ready. Yeah, they're

1019
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: not putting him in, not putting him in ready. But

1020
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: see even with Brent Urban, who yeah, like he he's

1021
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 1: gonna I think he's gonna be one of your base

1022
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: ends when they do the three four stuff again. I

1023
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 1: think he can kick inside. But I don't I don't

1024
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: know what it's how good he's gonna be. I think

1025
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: he's got the potential be good. I think he'll probably

1026
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 1: be one of your predominant starting defensive linemen. But I

1027
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 1: just don't. I don't know, And maybe you know I'm

1028
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: gun shy because what we always talk about of like

1029
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 1: hyping people up too much. Yeah, is this one of

1030
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 1: the like I'm specific I'm speaking specifically about the inside

1031
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 1: part of the defensive line. Is this one of the

1032
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: few positions on this team maybe other than that in

1033
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: safety where right now, we could probably go around the

1034
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 1: table and we would have different names as to who

1035
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: we even think are going to be the starters. Like,

1036
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: there are a lot of starting jobs up up for grabs.

1037
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: Defensive tackle. I can't tell you that the two guys

1038
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: that were starting there last year will be the two

1039
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: guys starting there this year. Right, one of them is

1040
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: not practicing, you know, I'm in Tristan Hill, right, and

1041
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 1: then Neville Gallimore. I mean he's gonna get in there.

1042
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 1: And which we pencil them in as the starters because

1043
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: they were high drafting hicks and they were here. If

1044
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: they started more than one game together, it was it

1045
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: couldn't have been more than one. Kristen was hurt by

1046
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,879
Speaker 1: the time Gallimore came on, So like, it's not even

1047
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:01,240
Speaker 1: like that is an experienced duoford. You know those guys

1048
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:07,320
Speaker 1: played in there. Ye Urban will factor in, Um, he's gonna,

1049
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: he's gonna, And Chauncey Golston has been kicking inside Watkins,

1050
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 1: Carlos Watkins. I mean, he's your other base end right now.

1051
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: When they when they do three man fronts, played a

1052
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 1: little bit of yeah he played all knows he don't

1053
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:22,919
Speaker 1: line up in there. Well know that's it's it's weird

1054
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:24,760
Speaker 1: to think about it. You know, we haven't seen Tristan

1055
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 1: and they never stay the same. So like Watkins will

1056
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 1: be out there in the three man front and then

1057
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 1: he comes off and somebody else comes in when it's

1058
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 1: a four man front, or maybe he's he's played some

1059
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: one in a four man front. Two Like it makes

1060
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 1: my head spend trying to keep track of it all.

1061
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 1: And they don't even have their full Allotmentum guys, so

1062
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: I couldn't hope to tell you what their rotation will

1063
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,959
Speaker 1: be when it matters. So I guess what I'm trying

1064
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: to say is I don't know everything thing we don't know.

1065
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 1: I know they got it. I know they got a

1066
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 1: lot of guys who you couldn't call proven. I get

1067
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 1: urban is like the one he I mean, he's been

1068
00:52:58,320 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: in the league for eight years. He's got a pretty

1069
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: good reputation for what he does, which has stopped the

1070
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: run and eat up blocks. And that's the closest I

1071
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: think you can come to a guy with a proven reputation.

1072
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: I think, I think what what sets the defensive line

1073
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: apart is when you have a third guy that that

1074
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 1: does something a defensive end. You know, you you got

1075
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: to you gotta have a stud rusher and he's got

1076
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: to play like one and have the stats like one

1077
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: and get the reputation where you know, draw the double teams.

1078
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: And I will see if d Law can do that.

1079
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:28,720
Speaker 1: And then he got another guy on the other side,

1080
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 1: if he can make a difference like he like he

1081
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 1: shows he can. But then if you get a third

1082
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: guy that that comes in and can do you know,

1083
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 1: maybe five or six sacks of seas him, that's you know,

1084
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 1: if bash him can be that player, then I think

1085
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: I think the defense can be much improved. And um,

1086
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 1: you know, he has the potential to be that guy.

1087
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 1: All right, listen, we want to linebacker position. What do

1088
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 1: we know? What do we don't know? We know, as

1089
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 1: Amber say, if Parsons will be a badass, but well no,

1090
00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:03,359
Speaker 1: we don't know that he's looking to be a badass. Oh,

1091
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 1: he's looking to be a badass. He's shown the flexibility

1092
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: in the different positions, how they've been kind of moving

1093
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,439
Speaker 1: him around. He's looking to be that like someone who

1094
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 1: can actually help create some pressure and get to the quarterback.

1095
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 1: So that's exciting when you talk about, you know, getting tacks.

1096
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 1: I think he's looking to be like someone who's gonna

1097
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 1: start I'm sorry, this is coming from the woman who,

1098
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: like at the end of the summer or in October,

1099
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,439
Speaker 1: she's going to be the one that's pissed off if

1100
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 1: it doesn't go the way that she wants it to go.

1101
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: He looks so good at yeah. Oh, and he does,

1102
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 1: by the way, worse than last year saw. He does

1103
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: look great at OTAs like he's getting like he's intercepting passes,

1104
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: he's getting his hand on the ball. He killed Garrett

1105
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: Gilbert yesterday, like if it had been a live rep,

1106
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: he would have killed him. He actually screamed because he

1107
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: got off the line so fast he was in the

1108
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:04,240
Speaker 1: backfield before Tie and Secky even got out of his stance.

1109
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: He was already backed the swing tackle ladies in jail like.

1110
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 1: By the time Garrett Gilbert had the ball in his

1111
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 1: hands and looked up, Parsons was there and it was

1112
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 1: it was exciting. That is what is exciting to me.

1113
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: The fact that we haven't seen him in real NFL

1114
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 1: football game, which the speed we know it goes way up.

1115
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,800
Speaker 1: But as of right now, that's one of the exciting

1116
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: things for me is seeing his speed, which is something

1117
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 1: that to me was lacking last year at the linebacker position,

1118
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,479
Speaker 1: and again we haven't seen it in a real game,

1119
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:37,760
Speaker 1: which changes everything. But as of right now, I'm excited

1120
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 1: to see the kind of speed that he's showing and

1121
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: maybe what that's going to look like in an actual

1122
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: NFL game. I need four preseason games from from him,

1123
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 1: I mean, and not four for everybody, but for Micah Parsons.

1124
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: I want to see him in four games because he

1125
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:58,919
Speaker 1: hasn't played any footballs in two years, so I think

1126
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: he needs to not a lot. I'm not talking about

1127
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 1: a bunch of time, you know, but I think just

1128
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: the speed of the game. Even though preseason is different,

1129
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 1: it's still fast. It's way faster than anything he's ever experienced,

1130
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 1: anything he's experienced in a year and a half. So

1131
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 1: I think it's important to kind of get him out

1132
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: there in different, different roles. And I think the preseason

1133
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 1: games will benefit him as much as anybody. Especially for

1134
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: a number twelve overall pick, you would think it's more

1135
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 1: get in and get out, which it will be, But

1136
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: I still think he needs to play some of these

1137
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 1: games a little bit more than normal guys would. All

1138
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 1: I'm willing to say I know is that other than quarterback,

1139
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,240
Speaker 1: this is the position that they've invested in the most.

1140
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: And it's kind of crazy when you think about it.

1141
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: Thirteen million dollars a year, Jalen Smith, nineteenth overall pick,

1142
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:48,240
Speaker 1: Layton vander esh twelfth overall pick, Michael Parsons, the best

1143
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,320
Speaker 1: free agent signing of the year, five million dollars, Keyan O'Neil,

1144
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: fourth round pick to brill Cox. Like, they know it's

1145
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: put resources, they know it's a problem, yeah, and hopefully

1146
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,760
Speaker 1: that does something to fix it. And we're not talking

1147
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: about it like we talked about the wide receiver position.

1148
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: That's what's scary. Yeah, yeah, if you invested all day that,

1149
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 1: I really wish I knew a lot more for how

1150
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 1: much money they've spent on it. All right, let's let's

1151
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 1: finish this up with the secondary. What do we know?

1152
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 1: What do we don't know? Well, you mentioned Kian O'Neil,

1153
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 1: and I want I wanted to ask you guys, what

1154
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: have you guys seen from him? I feel like I

1155
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 1: don't know much. And that's a guy we talked a

1156
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 1: lot about him during the off season, so I mean,

1157
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 1: I like what I've seen a lot. The only thing

1158
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 1: that gives me pause is just I don't know how

1159
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 1: they make it all work with all these other linebackers.

1160
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 1: But he's out there a lot. In Nickel, he's out

1161
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 1: there a lot. Like I think he's he's going to

1162
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 1: be one of their passing down guys. Like if it's

1163
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: third and more than four or five, I think he's

1164
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: gonna be on the field. He adds, going back to

1165
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 1: the speed thing, I mean, if him and Micah Parsons

1166
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: are on the field together, yeah, that is a fast

1167
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 1: linebacker corps. And then he was he was a strong

1168
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: safety in Atlanta for most of his career. Anyway, like

1169
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 1: that's what he does. Like he said that, He said

1170
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 1: that a week or so ago. He was like, in

1171
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 1: my head, I've been a linebacker for a long time,

1172
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 1: Like that's basically what they asked me to do. Somebody

1173
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 1: posts a video clip of him last week yesterday on

1174
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 1: Twitter meeting Leonard Fournette in the hole and just stopping

1175
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 1: him cold. I mean, he's got that kind of power

1176
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 1: and ability. Um, he looks good to me, he looks

1177
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 1: the part. Yeah, I just again have fun figuring out

1178
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 1: how these guys all rotate. Um, but he's a linebacker

1179
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: until something like he is not playing safety at all.

1180
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: For anybody that wants to know, he hasn't done it.

1181
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 1: We kind of need some help back there in the backfield.

1182
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 1: Is that what we know or what we don't know

1183
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: about the secondary? Like you know there, there's lots of

1184
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 1: questions there because he and Curse have been the guys

1185
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 1: that have been here the most, and they've been playing together,

1186
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 1: and they've been the guys the first team starters. And

1187
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: if you're out there wondering where Donovan Wilson is, I

1188
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 1: mean he hasn't participated as much in the voluntary injury No,

1189
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 1: but remember now, it was voluntary and this is not normal.

1190
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 1: You have the president of the nfl PA and you know,

1191
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: players committee saying that we shouldn't do this. So players

1192
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: had their own thoughts on how they did stuff. And

1193
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 1: I'm not I don't even know the deal with Donovan Wilson.

1194
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 1: I just know he didn't. He didn't participate a lot.

1195
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 1: He's out here though in the this is not this

1196
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 1: is mandatory. They're holding him out. He's got they're calling

1197
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:24,439
Speaker 1: it knee soreness, and he's been at OTA's. Yeah, he's

1198
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 1: been here. He's been here. He hasn't. He hasn't been

1199
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 1: here for as much of just the offseason, like pre

1200
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 1: spring stuff as some other guys. I guess what I'm

1201
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 1: saying is is, don't get the sharpie out for putting

1202
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 1: him in starting safety even though we kind of thought

1203
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 1: that he was, you know, doing all that. And I

1204
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 1: don't think they're looking at it like, well, he has

1205
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:46,479
Speaker 1: to be the guy. He's gonna factor into this because

1206
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 1: he's a playmaker and he don't positions that are up

1207
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 1: for grabs. At this point, it's like who's gonna win.

1208
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 1: Even before he hurt his knee curse was getting reps

1209
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 1: with Kaze ahead of him. He was mixing in and

1210
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to assign strings in the spring, but

1211
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 1: urs is getting a heavy look. Um I think I know.

1212
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go as far as to say I know

1213
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 1: who the I know who the cornerbacks are going to be,

1214
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 1: at least at the start of the season. I really

1215
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 1: feel that way. I think Kelvin Joseph or Nishan Right

1216
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 1: would have to do something incredible to pass up Anthony Brown,

1217
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 1: Treyvon Diggs, and Jordan Lewis at least at the outset

1218
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,919
Speaker 1: of the season. And Nishan Wright has looked great. He's

1219
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 1: had a great spring, but he's still the spring. He's

1220
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 1: going against Ben d Nucci and Aaron Parker. You know

1221
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 1: there's a difference there. Um, So I think I know

1222
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 1: what the cornerback depth chart looks like, at least for

1223
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: the start of this thing. Safety not so much. Wouldn't

1224
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 1: we get to training camp and they do the one

1225
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 1: on one drills and stuff like that. I want to

1226
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 1: see Nishan Right against um the I want to least

1227
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 1: see him against the Cedric Wilsons and Noah Brown level

1228
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 1: and I don't see that. Definitely like to say, I

1229
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 1: don't know if he's just boom put him right there,

1230
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 1: but you know, I he's done a nice job, and

1231
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 1: he's he's exceeding expectations which were in the dirt when

1232
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 1: he was drafted office, which and that's they were in

1233
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 1: the dirt, and now it's like they're here. You know,

1234
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, yeah, come on, let's bring it down

1235
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 1: in the middle somewhere. Which is it's funny because I'm

1236
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 1: I've been reluctant to just proclaim things, but I have.

1237
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 1: I think I think fans will probably be pissed as

1238
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 1: training camp winds down and it's like, wow, like Kelvin

1239
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 1: and Kelvin and Nishan aren't gonna just grab this thing

1240
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 1: by the horns, Like no, it's hard to play cornerback

1241
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and the three guys at the top

1242
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 1: of the depth chart have been doing it a lot longer.

1243
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 1: Other than his parents, nobody gets excited about Anthony Brown.

1244
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 1: They just don't know. Nobody does. And that's just because

1245
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 1: he's just the guy that comes in and does his job.

1246
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: But you know, he's made a few plays in his career.

1247
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 1: He's probably one of the what top ten tenured players

1248
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 1: on this team right now, just because I've even he's

1249
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 1: been here five years. But you know, he's solid. I

1250
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 1: think that's the best definition for him, and which doesn't

1251
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 1: get people excited. No, nobody gets excited about solid corners,

1252
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 1: but those right and and Joseph, they've got to get

1253
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 1: to that level and that's hard to do as rookies.

1254
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 1: That's yeah. I just think the deck is stacked against

1255
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 1: those guys. And sorry if that bumps people out, and

1256
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 1: maybe they'll prove me wrong, maybe they'll be incredible, but

1257
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 1: I unless somebody gets hurt, I think the top three corners,

1258
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard to unseat those three in my opinion.

1259
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 1: All Right, we appreciate you guys joining us. That's a

1260
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 1: rap for us. We will be back once training camp

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Speaker 1: begins in Oxnard, California. We will the three of us

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Speaker 1: will be an ox star. Amber will be taking a

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Speaker 1: little time, that little family time writing that down. Well,

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Speaker 1: Jerry is said it, So I'm betting on the fact

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Speaker 1: that if Jerry said Jerry, Jerry has said nothing about

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Speaker 1: me being an oxyd, the Cowboys, I assume will be

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Speaker 1: You're gonna be an oxydh Okay, cool, trust me, you'll

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Speaker 1: be an ox. Good to know we'll breaking news here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say like nobody is in your back, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we'll get you there. I'll make sure that happens. Amber

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Speaker 1: will take a little family time. She'll be back with

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Speaker 1: us at some point in the season how that goes,

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Speaker 1: and we'll probably be calling her and annoying her and

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Speaker 1: making her, giving her and give us some opinions throughout

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Speaker 1: camp till then. For Nick Even, Dave Helm and Amber Garcia.

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Speaker 1: I am Derek Eagles and this has been The Break

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Speaker 1: live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been

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