Speaker 1: The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
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Speaker 1: official Dallas Cowboys at now. Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls,
Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola. Yeah, Dallas Cowboys stand I Yeah. As
Speaker 1: another victory Monday inside the s WBC podcast studio. And
Speaker 1: we've got two reasons to celebrate victories on this Monday
Speaker 1: at noon. Bill Jones, Everson Walls, and Mickey Spagnola. The
Speaker 1: Cowboys victoria's on Saturday, and all of us were victorious
Speaker 1: on Sunday, Christmas Day. Right, that's right, everybody had a
Speaker 1: successful Christmas. Okay, very good, and now it's a short week.
Speaker 1: Cowboys locker room was open an hour ago. Mickey Spagnola
Speaker 1: has emerged from there. We're getting ready for the Tennessee
Speaker 1: Titans now on Thursday night. Right, man, he smells like
Speaker 1: a locker room. Go ahead to Tennessee. Right, We got
Speaker 1: no time to dowdle around, right, we got to get moved.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, we can't have some fun and talk
Speaker 1: about you know what just happened. No, we're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about talk about him for a long time, all right.
Speaker 1: Any any news from the locker room, any breaking news
Speaker 1: from the locker room? Um, because you just got back
Speaker 1: from there. You know what, I printed out my snap
Speaker 1: counts and they didn't print out. Well, is there anyone
Speaker 1: in particular you need to know about? Well, yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: let you know. I've got it called up. Right now
Speaker 1: as we're starting the show, I'm writing down the snap counts.
Speaker 1: I got the page with the two guys at the
Speaker 1: bottom right, which are the kicker in the out. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: if you got it, I've got so to kick off.
Speaker 1: So to kick off this edition of mix Shots, Mickey
Speaker 1: will read off the snap counts for Saturday's game. Absolutely
Speaker 1: because there are a couple will get to Uh. Sam
Speaker 1: Williams is cleared to practice. Okay, that was my first question.
Speaker 1: I wanted to know whether or not you saw him
Speaker 1: in the locker also cleared to live, by the way, Um,
Speaker 1: how about this, guess when he bought his new car Friday,
Speaker 1: I know, Wednesday night, Wednesday night, he didn't even have
Speaker 1: it twenty four hours before. So the exit occurred on Thursday, Thursday,
Speaker 1: two o'clock to day afternoon, maybe something like that. Right,
Speaker 1: because it was a he had just left the facility.
Speaker 1: I assume he was headed home to get with his
Speaker 1: family that came in for Christmas, and his brand new
Speaker 1: probably had stickers still on it. Right, he did twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two zero six corvette. Yeah, demolished wheel Love corvettes,
Speaker 1: just demolished. And I saw the footage of it. He
Speaker 1: was he understood. He said, my first thoughts were thank God,
Speaker 1: it could have been worse. And immediately he thought about
Speaker 1: my son and his mother, and that how fragile life
Speaker 1: is that it could have been over. Somebody said you
Speaker 1: have your seatbell out. He goes, oh, yeah, because if
Speaker 1: I didn't, I'm not here. And he was talking about
Speaker 1: getting out of the car. He said he had to
Speaker 1: push a button to get out of the car, and
Speaker 1: the ladies car was smoking, and they went over to
Speaker 1: her car, and he said, there was a bunch of
Speaker 1: people there. They had their phones out and and he goes,
Speaker 1: we couldn't get the door open. We had to wait till,
Speaker 1: you know, the emergency veagles got there. And they said, well,
Speaker 1: who'd you call first? And he goes, my hands were
Speaker 1: so cold, I couldn't dial on my phone. They put
Speaker 1: me in the in the squad car or whatever, and
Speaker 1: he was able to dial and he dialed here and
Speaker 1: Brian Wansley and cable to let him know would happened.
Speaker 1: But yeah, he said, he's very He said, I'm not
Speaker 1: called and I'm paraphrasing right, he goes, you never know
Speaker 1: when that's gonna happen. I called every family member I
Speaker 1: could think of and just let him know that I
Speaker 1: was okay and how much I loved him. That's crazy, man,
Speaker 1: he was. I didn't know it was. You know, yeah,
Speaker 1: you hear reports that he was involved in a car
Speaker 1: accident and it was it came out that he was
Speaker 1: taken in the driver of the other vehicle. They were
Speaker 1: taken to the hospital for observation or with minor injuries. Well,
Speaker 1: he's got scars all over his head and I was thinking, oh,
Speaker 1: he must have hit his head on this or that,
Speaker 1: and somebody pointed out, Um, that it looked like bruises
Speaker 1: from your air bag exploding in your face. And I
Speaker 1: didn't realize it was hot the air. I never had
Speaker 1: an air bag explode on me. Um. Yeah, he was
Speaker 1: kind of bruised up, but other than that, he was good,
Speaker 1: and he said when he woke up Saturday, he was
Speaker 1: He said, I was good to go. I can play,
Speaker 1: And they told him, now, just take the day off.
Speaker 1: So he said, I spent the day yelling at my television.
Speaker 1: Hey tell him, welcome to the club. Yeah, he said,
Speaker 1: the day yelling at the television. And I forgot the
Speaker 1: term he used. He said, the CD Lamb turned me up.
Speaker 1: So he was he was big on CD's performance. Yeah. So, uh,
Speaker 1: that was probably the biggest thing that came out of
Speaker 1: the locker room that he's he's he's fine and good
Speaker 1: to go, and the fact that he's talking to the
Speaker 1: media and everything. Yeah, at first they didn't. He said
Speaker 1: he didn't want to talk about it on camera, and
Speaker 1: then towards the end, you know, we kind of made
Speaker 1: small talk with him. Then he stood up and said, okay,
Speaker 1: let's do let's do it. Okay, so good, all right, yes,
Speaker 1: very good. Also saw Terrence Steele. He's already had his surgery.
Speaker 1: He big old crutches, big old knee brace. But you
Speaker 1: know he's on his way. When you're a big old man,
Speaker 1: you got big old crutches and big old knee braces.
Speaker 1: All right, Um, what a game on and what an
Speaker 1: entertaining game on Christmas Eve. And now as we do
Speaker 1: turn our attention towards Tennessee, it's very interesting going forward
Speaker 1: coming out of that game. Cowboys, injury wise, came out
Speaker 1: of it well, right, Nicky, Yes, the Eagles did not.
Speaker 1: They lost Lane Johnson. I didn't check Lane Johnson apparently
Speaker 1: as a torn tendon and his abdomen and it's probably
Speaker 1: out for the next couple of weeks. They hope to
Speaker 1: get him back for the playoffs. Okay. And Avonte Maddox
Speaker 1: he's got a significant toe injury according to reports, and
Speaker 1: so he's out and he was playing lights out the
Speaker 1: early part of that game, right, A cornerback for ye
Speaker 1: corner for them. So yeah, they did, but I didn't see.
Speaker 1: I mean, we didn't get an injury report after the game,
Speaker 1: right Cowboys? So yeah, I think everybody actually got through
Speaker 1: it and good to go. The other thing just mentioned this,
Speaker 1: and we wanted to get into a lot of the Eagles.
Speaker 1: Tennessee's got nothing to play for on Thursday. I mean,
Speaker 1: when you look at the standings in the AFC, South
Speaker 1: Tennessee plays Jacksonville in the season finale. Jacksonville would beat
Speaker 1: Tennessee a couple of weeks ago, and so it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter whether Tennessee wins or loses this game because Tennessee
Speaker 1: lost to Houston. They're they're going to be within one
Speaker 1: game of each other no matter what the results are
Speaker 1: this week. So Tennessee will probably rest players this week.
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry, I mean, they're their important game is next
Speaker 1: week against Jacksonville. Doesn't matter what they do against the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: They have to win the Jacksonville game to make the playoffs,
Speaker 1: win their division, and they should use this as a
Speaker 1: nice practice game. Though. If they lose, they're a game behind.
Speaker 1: Pull up the standings here. I just wanted to say,
Speaker 1: because they're tied the game seven and eight right now, right,
Speaker 1: and but but Jacksonville beat them, right, and so if
Speaker 1: even if they lose in Jacksonville wins this week, okay,
Speaker 1: Jacksonville would have a one game well, hadn't makes sense? No, No,
Speaker 1: Tennessee's ahead of the Jacksonville in the standings said they
Speaker 1: were both seven and eight. Let me see, let me
Speaker 1: look it up here. I think I'm pretty sure on that.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's if they were even if if Tennessee beats Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: They must have a better division record or something to
Speaker 1: give them the tiebreaker at this point. Yeah, I'm looking
Speaker 1: that up. You talk of it, but I'm both seven
Speaker 1: and seven. What my point was though, even if they
Speaker 1: lose in Jacksonville wins and they're a game behind, if
Speaker 1: they beat them, then then then they're they've split. They've split,
Speaker 1: and so whatever the division record, they must have a
Speaker 1: better division for Jacksonville. Yeah, I mean, if if they
Speaker 1: win that last game against them, they're they're in well
Speaker 1: both teams. Yeah, it's gonna be a winner take all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: last game point being, Tennessee's got nothing to play for. Now,
Speaker 1: tell me what you'll thought about the Cowboys and the
Speaker 1: Eagles ever since you go first. I thought it was
Speaker 1: a very unnecessarily exciting game. I mean I did enjoy
Speaker 1: you know, how we were resilient in almost every phase
Speaker 1: of the game. But when I look at the our defense,
Speaker 1: I'm I keep going back to nineteen eighty one, I
Speaker 1: keep going back to last year, to where you know,
Speaker 1: not being able to stop our offensive teams, not being
Speaker 1: able to stop them from moving moving the chains. It
Speaker 1: always catches up with you if you show that pattern.
Speaker 1: I don't care if you change it sometime early on
Speaker 1: before the playoffs start. If you're not careful, those same
Speaker 1: bad habits reared their ugly heads when it comes down
Speaker 1: to those drives where you needed in the playoffs. Right now,
Speaker 1: this team looks great, it's exciting, but I still don't
Speaker 1: see defensively the toughness that you need, the consistency that
Speaker 1: we need from our pass rush and our past defense.
Speaker 1: Now I haven't said that I love the turnovers. That's great.
Speaker 1: Minshoe's interceptions. Those weren't bad passes. Those were great interceptions.
Speaker 1: Let's just be real about that. Those were held of
Speaker 1: interceptions by jay Ron Curse catching it with one hand
Speaker 1: while covering the wide receiver and of course with Bland
Speaker 1: just him taking that ball away from him. That's one
Speaker 1: of the gutsiest moves I've seen the defensive back make
Speaker 1: here in the long long time. Of course, you got
Speaker 1: guys making plays, making interceptions, but for him to not
Speaker 1: give up on that play when it was could have
Speaker 1: been just a completion and in the clutch like it was.
Speaker 1: Those were some clutch turnovers. But I hate to have
Speaker 1: to depend on that defensively for us to win the game.
Speaker 1: You're asking a lot from your offense, a whole lot
Speaker 1: from your offense, and it's just unfair. Well, that's who
Speaker 1: this team is now, you know, right, the offense got
Speaker 1: to score thirty something or forty to be able to
Speaker 1: you got a backup quarterback. And I know Minshoe has
Speaker 1: started and he's played in the league. But until they
Speaker 1: had ten Leagles had ten possessions. The only times the
Speaker 1: Cowboys stopped them from scoring were the takeaways and the
Speaker 1: first time in the entire game on downs on the
Speaker 1: last drive. They had not stopped them on downs until
Speaker 1: that drive. And um, and it wasn't like offensively we
Speaker 1: had things under control, No, No, we needed those drives. Yes.
Speaker 1: And so here's here's two things I said to myself
Speaker 1: during the game that I thought were indicative of the
Speaker 1: whole thing. The first one was after the interception for
Speaker 1: a touchdown the big I said to myself, this effing team, right, dude,
Speaker 1: I think that's the worst you've ever talked about. Let's
Speaker 1: I don't think he's ever said that on this Let's
Speaker 1: do you think he really said it like that? Well,
Speaker 1: we know what you said, but the fact that you
Speaker 1: made reference to it, that's really saying a lot, and
Speaker 1: I was like, do you have to like just create
Speaker 1: this mountain that you have to do. Once we did that,
Speaker 1: we want them right. And then on third and thirty,
Speaker 1: I said, and I said this out loud, I said,
Speaker 1: how would you like to be the offensive coordinator with
Speaker 1: this play call? Right? And as I found out, it
Speaker 1: was pretty simple. It was s t y. Hilton said,
Speaker 1: we had a go on both outsides, and I said,
Speaker 1: so to me, I was thinking, it was like the playground.
Speaker 1: You run as fast as you can to the red kettle.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw it as far as I can, and
Speaker 1: you turn around and jump and catch it. Right. It
Speaker 1: just like we're out on the street. And by god,
Speaker 1: if that didn't happen, because there's no third and thirty
Speaker 1: play call on that playsheet, right, you got to make
Speaker 1: that up. And it's like, and you don't plan for that,
Speaker 1: especially since two plays before both failed, right, you lost yardage.
Speaker 1: You don't want to depend on that, right, that's what
Speaker 1: you just don't want to depend on that kind of
Speaker 1: greatness to pull yourself out of it. Now. Having said that,
Speaker 1: this just lets you know we could have been doing
Speaker 1: this all year long. I mean most teams that you
Speaker 1: see play now, they take us a deep shot at
Speaker 1: least three times a game. Right on this one, you
Speaker 1: were forced to. We've only done two the entire season.
Speaker 1: And that was a thirty three year old man running
Speaker 1: down the field and Dak had to throw the ball.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking since it was a fifty three yard completion,
Speaker 1: he had to be seven ten yards deep, right, I
Speaker 1: mean he threw the ball almost sixty some seventy yards
Speaker 1: on the dime. Unbelievable. And I thought that just changed
Speaker 1: the entire momentum of the game. And as Ty told
Speaker 1: us here a little while ago, he said, you know what,
Speaker 1: he goes, if I didn't get my legs tandled up,
Speaker 1: he goes, I'm scoring because the safety ain't bringing me down.
Speaker 1: He goes, but I got my legs tangled. And he
Speaker 1: thought that when he took off and he knew he
Speaker 1: was even with Sleigh, he said, I got He goes
Speaker 1: because he said, he said, I got another gear. He
Speaker 1: ain't seen it. He's just the best. And how about this,
Speaker 1: So with family in town, my brother in law paid
Speaker 1: played baseball at FIU. So he decided I need to
Speaker 1: put my sweatshirt on. So he puts his FIU sweatshirt on,
Speaker 1: and t Y Hilton stars, right. I told t Y
Speaker 1: Hilton the story and he goes, that's crazy, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. So I mean, do you think that
Speaker 1: from here on we're gonna get more consideration for deep passes?
Speaker 1: I mean, well, I don't know, but all I know
Speaker 1: is that's eight straight games scoring twenty five points or more.
Speaker 1: That's pretty strong, it is. And you know, I know
Speaker 1: the Eagles didn't have their quarterback, but they had their defense,
Speaker 1: right except for when Maddox got hurt. H And they
Speaker 1: were pretty good defensively all year. And you put that
Speaker 1: many points on them. They can say what they want
Speaker 1: about the backup quarterback. The way we scored on their defense, right,
Speaker 1: that's indicative of how good we are offensively. Right now, Well,
Speaker 1: the way that game was playing out the first three quarters,
Speaker 1: making you pointed out they're scoring virtually every possession. I mean,
Speaker 1: how much better could Jalen Hurts have done? Right? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not. Well when you look at it, j has
Speaker 1: a one game that's better passing yrds than I think
Speaker 1: you got three eighties something. Now. Yeah, this is the
Speaker 1: difference though, is And the thing that Jalen Hurts has done.
Speaker 1: And I mean you pointed out great how Cowboys couldn't
Speaker 1: stop them. Well they they were able to get those
Speaker 1: turnovers in the fourth quarter and get the stop at
Speaker 1: the end of the game and they count. Yeah. When
Speaker 1: Hurts is the quarterback for them, and one of the
Speaker 1: great things that he's done this seat he's thrown five picks,
Speaker 1: but his ability to run the football giving them a
Speaker 1: I can't running back. They've been able to control games
Speaker 1: and they haven't turned the ball over as on the season.
Speaker 1: They're like tops in the league in giveaways, and they
Speaker 1: gave the ball away four times in this game. That
Speaker 1: has a total reflection on the game is different. They
Speaker 1: have control of the games when he's been in there. No,
Speaker 1: but he's also with five picks on the season, He's
Speaker 1: he's been prone to throw a pick here and there too,
Speaker 1: So there's no saying that he couldn't have done the
Speaker 1: same thing because those weren't bad throws made. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: were good defensive plays that both Um Curse made and Bland. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So all right, we're just getting started on this edition
Speaker 1: of Big Shots. As Mickey counts up all the snap counts,
Speaker 1: that's right. I got him now, right from Saturday's game,
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Speaker 1: to look at our picks to click from the game
Speaker 1: on Saturday? I think we do. You guys, I know
Speaker 1: what happened with Well, we sure didn't get the scores, right.
Speaker 1: I'll guarantee you were in the thirties, weren't you. I
Speaker 1: had thirty to twenty six because remember, right, yes, your gas. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he filled up his tank and it was the cold weather.
Speaker 1: It was governing it sent the cold weather. Did not
Speaker 1: know that the cold weather was coming in. And so
Speaker 1: you know, because it it fell on Thursday morning, okay,
Speaker 1: which was our last show, right, and it fell down.
Speaker 1: I mean their temperature was all right, plumbing, it was
Speaker 1: down already to twenty six degrees on its way to
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Speaker 1: And so that was my score, thirty to twenty six.
Speaker 1: Very well, it missed it by only ten points, mickey, Okay,
Speaker 1: forty to thirty four, right, yeah, okay, So what was
Speaker 1: your scores? Another scores? What the craft think mine was?
Speaker 1: Twenty eight twenty four. Okay, so we were close. So
Speaker 1: I'm closer t eighteen you were twenty seven eighteen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't think. Ok it was like the halftime and
Speaker 1: my player was a d Law. No, your player with
Speaker 1: Sam Williams. No, you gave me another shot. You gave
Speaker 1: me another shot. He said, you go give me grace,
Speaker 1: and you did because you gave Yeah, you made your pick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because it actually occurred Thursday after that. So I said,
Speaker 1: it's it's a Christmas season. I'm in a giving mood.
Speaker 1: You can go ahead and get a mulligan. And so
Speaker 1: you went with d Law. All right, Mickey, do you
Speaker 1: remember who you pay? Sam Williams got a mulligan too, Yes,
Speaker 1: he did. My brother, Um, I picked that Prescott. No,
Speaker 1: I think that you may have. I think Chris has it.
Speaker 1: Chris has it because he sent it to me. I think,
Speaker 1: oh he did. Yeah, Okay, I'm looking I'm looking right.
Speaker 1: I don't know. You know who would you pick? But
Speaker 1: I don't even remember who did. I picked Pollard. I
Speaker 1: picked Tony Pollard. Here you're out, so I'm the only
Speaker 1: one that could win. Okay, so you win? Okay, Macky
Speaker 1: wins all right. What else is on your legal pad?
Speaker 1: Um A couple things. So we saw how they started
Speaker 1: off the game at cornerback with Darn Bland playing left corner,
Speaker 1: m mackenzie Alexander playing in the slot, and then suddenly
Speaker 1: they made a change. They put nashun right out at
Speaker 1: corner when they had to go nickel and move Bland
Speaker 1: back inside and checked out. This is what I was
Speaker 1: looking for for the snap counts. Duran Bland played ninety
Speaker 1: four percent of the snaps, sixty seven of seventy one
Speaker 1: and Nashan Wright and I got to go back and
Speaker 1: look this up. This might be the most snaps he's
Speaker 1: played in a significant game with the game still on
Speaker 1: the line. He played thirty eight snaps fifty four percent,
Speaker 1: and Alexander played fourteen. So I'm wondering if this is
Speaker 1: indicative of what they do going forward, because I thought
Speaker 1: Nashan Wright played pretty well. Yeah, and his high number
Speaker 1: of snaps this season has been nineteen against Jacksonville and
Speaker 1: that's and I'll guarantee you that's probably this is probably
Speaker 1: for his career. I was just talking to him and
Speaker 1: he goes, well, man, you know, he goes, I understood
Speaker 1: my role but you had to be ready for your
Speaker 1: opportunity and if you and I don't. For some reason,
Speaker 1: I left my play by play behind, but I think
Speaker 1: I can find it on here. On the on Philadelphia's
Speaker 1: last drive, he made the tackle. So on the second
Speaker 1: it was the second and five play, maybe because I
Speaker 1: wrote down right, so he must have made the tackle.
Speaker 1: It was a six yard gain, I think, and he
Speaker 1: kept the guy. That was the first play of the drive.
Speaker 1: Was it six yards to Zach Pascal. There was another
Speaker 1: one though it was later because I wrote down right,
Speaker 1: and he stopped the guy from making He stopped the
Speaker 1: guy from getting out of bounds. And he said, I
Speaker 1: realized when I was talking to him today that I
Speaker 1: had to keep him from going forward. I forced him
Speaker 1: to go out backwards. And he said, after and he goes,
Speaker 1: go back and look at it. And for those of
Speaker 1: you that are watching this, he said, after I did that,
Speaker 1: I was winding my arm. Yes, that was that was
Speaker 1: I believe on the first play, okay, and he said,
Speaker 1: I was winded. Well. The other thing, he just helping
Speaker 1: the referee out right. The other thing I knew I
Speaker 1: had I told him. I knew I had to keep
Speaker 1: him from going forward. So pretty good play on his
Speaker 1: That shows that he understands the rule on it too,
Speaker 1: because because he was right on the sideline. I mean,
Speaker 1: if the official could have borne that call right, you know,
Speaker 1: I was surprised that he did wind it well. The
Speaker 1: other thing he took a look at last week last
Speaker 1: week with the Jacksonville the Jacksonville game where jay Ron
Speaker 1: was trying to keep the guy from going he scrambled
Speaker 1: out of bound. That was forward, I mean, so that's
Speaker 1: something I'm sure that was a teaching point right in
Speaker 1: the meeting room. Sure after that game. The other thing
Speaker 1: Right did on the second and ten play at the
Speaker 1: nineteen yard line, Davante Smith in the back of the ngeine.
Speaker 1: Now he was going to be hard pressed to get
Speaker 1: his feet down anyway, but he knew the rule there
Speaker 1: and he forced him out of out the back of
Speaker 1: the end zone. So I'll be interested to see what
Speaker 1: they do going. And you know, the thing on Nashan
Speaker 1: Wright is when the Cowboys drafted them, they got you
Speaker 1: know a lot of the so called draft experts said, oh,
Speaker 1: they took him two rounds too high. Whatever, they knew
Speaker 1: when they drafted him that he might take some time,
Speaker 1: you know, um and making the transition into the NFL.
Speaker 1: But if you look at US college tape at Oregon
Speaker 1: State and you look at how he's played, I mean,
Speaker 1: he's got some feistiness to him. You know, he's got
Speaker 1: some playmaking ability to collect. Yeah, intellect Ye, there you go,
Speaker 1: and um and he had eight tackles and and he's
Speaker 1: got that physique they're looking for, you know, Yeah, what
Speaker 1: is he say? Six six four? Yeah, that is that's
Speaker 1: pretty cool. Right. We hadn't had a quarterback around here,
Speaker 1: that's all. I don't think ever we have had a
Speaker 1: six four quarnerback. Uh. Well, they moved that guy to safety.
Speaker 1: It was mccamwu in that same draft. But that other
Speaker 1: than that, that's that's unique around here. And that was
Speaker 1: his biggest opportunity. That was his biggest opportunity. Uh and
Speaker 1: two pass defense he at one tackle far loss. That's
Speaker 1: that's major contribution. Right. And he said when we were
Speaker 1: talking about it, you know, waiting for his turn and everything,
Speaker 1: he goes, I'm not new to the situation. He goes,
Speaker 1: there's millions and thousands of people dying to be in
Speaker 1: my shoes. And I thought that was a pretty good
Speaker 1: you know, like, Okay, I understand my role, but I
Speaker 1: got to be ready when the opportunity he was active.
Speaker 1: He was active the entire game. Okay, let me ask
Speaker 1: you this. You asked if we ever had a six
Speaker 1: four cornerback on back, now, what would be what height
Speaker 1: sixty years ago would have been the equivalent height to
Speaker 1: a six four cornerback now when you just six to
Speaker 1: six one? Cornell Green was six three. So there was
Speaker 1: there's your quote unquote six four quarterbacks that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: a safety like he moved to safety. I got all
Speaker 1: pro at both positions. Yeah, that is something that's unique
Speaker 1: as well. Now, speaking of corners with Bland, the last
Speaker 1: time they had a rookie corner with five picks ever, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: of course, now I think I saw something different last
Speaker 1: last Yeah. We gotta go back too far from me, actually,
Speaker 1: he said Bland. It says Bland's five interceptions are tied
Speaker 1: for fourth all time among Cowboy rookies and rank second
Speaker 1: among NFL rookies, behind Seattle's Tarique Woolen with six pro
Speaker 1: bowler four last times high school runs four two something
Speaker 1: and he's about and Al Tall is heat six four
Speaker 1: And now these last time a rookie had five Micky
Speaker 1: said his name? What did I say? Who you said?
Speaker 1: Somebody named Tarik Woolling. That's what it sounded like, a
Speaker 1: bowling out of his minds back. Why, I don't know
Speaker 1: who he is? Sorry, Sorry, we thought you were a reporter.
Speaker 1: I don't report on thirty two teams. Go ahead, give
Speaker 1: me the list. When when did he do it? Tark? Yeah?
Speaker 1: This year? Okay, he's doing the rookie this year he
Speaker 1: made the Pro Bowl. Yeah, granted, like a four two
Speaker 1: nine at the combine. You need to look inside my
Speaker 1: big green notebook for him. Copy that stuff for the
Speaker 1: last was two thousand and two, smart guys. Okay, rookie
Speaker 1: in two thousand and two, that's right before I know
Speaker 1: what school he went to? Him? Oklahoma. I was gonna
Speaker 1: say how it was taking Roy Williams is one, but
Speaker 1: he was in safety. Yeah, that's right. And the other
Speaker 1: so Derek Ross that same year, same school, same year.
Speaker 1: I don't know, No Derek Ross went to I thought
Speaker 1: he went to I don't know a m I remember one, remember,
Speaker 1: I remember they had one kid around here. I don't
Speaker 1: remember his number, but he had gotten a few interceptions.
Speaker 1: He was really feeling himself, and he's like, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I've been balling. He's telling the reporters. He's like, man,
Speaker 1: what's the record? Friend, deceptions Ross went to the Ohio
Speaker 1: State University. Boom, guy, I'm talking about who was the
Speaker 1: guy that went to uh A and M what's the
Speaker 1: college and Emerald? It's actually in Kenyan, Canada. That would
Speaker 1: be Dwayne Thomas in two thousand and two. Smart. Hey man,
Speaker 1: we got so much information here. Ye, who is who
Speaker 1: he was? The knucklehead that there was a rookie and
Speaker 1: didn't show up for the first day of training camp
Speaker 1: and he didn't call. It was West Texas State University
Speaker 1: and now and now it's West Texas A and M. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: West Texas. But now I just remember the guy because
Speaker 1: he was well it was, it is where it was?
Speaker 1: Who else is on that list? I want you to
Speaker 1: tell me who it was. I have no idea. Okay,
Speaker 1: you ask just those two they were the last two. No,
Speaker 1: but who else was on the list? I'm trying to
Speaker 1: get to ever you said that, I only have that
Speaker 1: these these two guys the last time. Oh okay, I
Speaker 1: don't have Who's Can we say who has the most
Speaker 1: as a rookie. Well, we probably would be very comfortable
Speaker 1: pointing that out. I guess. And how many was that? Um?
Speaker 1: Twenty one? A lot? It's eleven, there's a lot eleven
Speaker 1: and two in the postseason at a lot of them.
Speaker 1: That's what give me. Give me the media guide. Nicky's
Speaker 1: gonna look up something in the media guide, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna have the results of whatever he looks up. Coming
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Speaker 1: Here Mickey has the much anticipated answer to his own
Speaker 1: trivia question about the Cowboys dB from West Texas am
Speaker 1: Amarillo And it was in the two thousand season and
Speaker 1: the answer is Kareem Laddimore Larimore, Kareem Laramore. I wonder
Speaker 1: I didn't get it right. I was looking up Laddimore
Speaker 1: Kareem Laramore out of West Texas A and M well,
Speaker 1: I'm glad we got that off. That's right, Yeah, that's right,
Speaker 1: all right, now that we got that cleaned up what's
Speaker 1: going to what's important, and what is important is how
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are back to work after Christmas holiday of
Speaker 1: one day and Mike McCarthy has his press conference at
Speaker 1: three o'clock this afternoon. That's right, okay. And so for
Speaker 1: this offense that needs to keep functioning in a high level,
Speaker 1: what does two targets to t Y Hilton do for
Speaker 1: opposing defenses? Knowing that he had a PI on the
Speaker 1: first one, he should have had a PI on the
Speaker 1: second one, and he was He had an answer for that.
Speaker 1: He said, I didn't realize. I didn't realize I was
Speaker 1: being held until I went back and looked at it.
Speaker 1: He goes, when when when, uh, you know, growing up
Speaker 1: as whatever a wide receiver, I'm just supposed to make
Speaker 1: contested catches. That's it he's been doing. And see it's
Speaker 1: not just his speed. This guy is shifty in the slot,
Speaker 1: which I don't want to take CD out the slot
Speaker 1: because CD is bawling out of control. But he is
Speaker 1: able to do to perform the intermediate routes as well
Speaker 1: as the deep route. He is, to me, the closest
Speaker 1: we're going to get to a Mary Cooper in regards
Speaker 1: to being precise in everything that he does. So that
Speaker 1: was the other one I was going to look up.
Speaker 1: Oh and by the way, I'd like to give the
Speaker 1: Twitter people some some mister t First, says Wright made
Speaker 1: the tackle on third and two that prevented the first
Speaker 1: down and held them to a field goal earlier in
Speaker 1: the game. Yes, okay, that's right he did. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: these are these are clutch plays made by a clutch player. So,
Speaker 1: so Hilton was on a pitch count and I think
Speaker 1: McCarthy they asked him and he said, I don't know,
Speaker 1: it was like twenty or thirty. He had twelve snaps.
Speaker 1: That's it. So I'm imagining those two plays. The cornerbacks,
Speaker 1: their hair is going to be standing up on edge.
Speaker 1: Now those some good cornerbacks that were beating. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a good second. I think both times. Yes, and Slay said,
Speaker 1: now the safety was supposed to get over the top. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would have said it too, well held up now,
Speaker 1: I've been there. I think nobody believes me. Come on, no,
Speaker 1: when he that's why, Well, I don't know if that
Speaker 1: was a too mad, but he looked like he was
Speaker 1: trying to stay even with him, and I don't know
Speaker 1: that that to me, they just looked like a perfect path.
Speaker 1: But you did see the safety come over late. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Now on the big Now, I didn't know if he
Speaker 1: came from the middle of the field or did he
Speaker 1: come from half to field. I didn't see the pre
Speaker 1: game pre snap lineup, and so if you if you
Speaker 1: see the pre snap alignment, then you know what defense
Speaker 1: they're playing. I don't think he was single high. I
Speaker 1: think he had that to feel. If he's got to
Speaker 1: have to feel, he's got to be over there. But
Speaker 1: he was too late. Yeah, he was too late, and
Speaker 1: and hey, I don't mind beating our safeties as well.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't like the safety said okay, I mean
Speaker 1: the corner said I'm playing underneath because I got I
Speaker 1: got help. He was running as fast he was. He
Speaker 1: was mad that the safety didn't come over. That was
Speaker 1: his post game uh comments. So then he said, my
Speaker 1: safety has got to be there. Yeah. Well, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: said it too, So would you you have said that
Speaker 1: in the postgame come if it ain't true, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: say that. I'm not gonna feel my safety under the bus.
Speaker 1: I can't. I have mike downs through mike downs. And
Speaker 1: he didn't throw Vince alp under the bus in Arizona
Speaker 1: until until I got I gotta tell the truth. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna lie, you know what I mean. The truth
Speaker 1: is the truth. So you can't. You can't throw yourself
Speaker 1: on the sow to where you're lying, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's just not being honest. So anyway, twelve snaps can
Speaker 1: he can he get twenty four next gen I like,
Speaker 1: I like the ramp up. Okay, next gens. Stats had
Speaker 1: him at nineteen point three miles an hour on that
Speaker 1: on that play. Oh he can do better, he said.
Speaker 1: Somebody asked him, what what what was your top? He goes,
Speaker 1: I think it was like twenty two points, so I
Speaker 1: could see it. I could see it, I could sleeve
Speaker 1: and he can stop on the dime. See, it's not
Speaker 1: just about running if I'm not going here, But if
Speaker 1: you're running, I understand it's all cuter generated or whatever.
Speaker 1: But if you're running right alongside Darius, say, who's to
Speaker 1: say that the nineteen miles an hour was Darius Slay's time?
Speaker 1: And see why I was on the other side. If
Speaker 1: you gotta get rid of That's what he tells the police.
Speaker 1: That was the other black drug. How do you know?
Speaker 1: It was me? But to me, you will talk about
Speaker 1: snap couns the most impressive. I don't know about impressive,
Speaker 1: but unusual or scary for your defense. The snap count
Speaker 1: for the punters non existent. There was one. There was
Speaker 1: one punt in the game, right it was that. It
Speaker 1: come on, that's crazy, yeah, one point. I mean we're
Speaker 1: gonna play some defense here, I know, I mean we're
Speaker 1: gonna play some defame. But you know who you know
Speaker 1: who played defense? Anthony Byr had his best game and
Speaker 1: I know we've kind of him a little bit. Fifty
Speaker 1: five snaps and he was was he tied for the
Speaker 1: lead or second for the lead and tackles and interception
Speaker 1: and he had a very important fumble recovery he did
Speaker 1: so um that was that was an impression of performance
Speaker 1: by him. M yeah, well they get you know, when
Speaker 1: you have so many plays, well they're successful on the
Speaker 1: other side of the ball, you gotta have somebody that's
Speaker 1: got to hold it down. And then we started we
Speaker 1: started talking about having poise, you know, and I think
Speaker 1: that's what the defense did show. They didn't just collapse completely,
Speaker 1: right even though we were giving up, they were they
Speaker 1: were moving the chains over and over again. We still
Speaker 1: had the poise to make the turnovers. And that reminds
Speaker 1: me so much of eighty one. You can say what
Speaker 1: you want about it. We gave up too many big plays. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the chains were moving too often. And again no sacks,
Speaker 1: no sex And as a matter of fact, I think
Speaker 1: that's not like eighty one. We had sacks right. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And the other part was I don't think they had
Speaker 1: a quarterback hit. How does that happen? But again they
Speaker 1: got zeroed out. But that last possession, when it got
Speaker 1: to the nineteen, the pressure was coming right. It didn't
Speaker 1: hit him, but it came to the point he said,
Speaker 1: I got to get rid of the foot. Pressure was
Speaker 1: also there for the running back when he fumbled the
Speaker 1: ball right, because first parts had scared the heck out
Speaker 1: of him. He didn't know where he came from. Him.
Speaker 1: He made an inside move very abrupt. As soon as
Speaker 1: he got the ball, He's like, oh, there he is.
Speaker 1: He tried to move this way. There's Watkins. And then
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, there was another d linemen. They
Speaker 1: came in the law. Yeah, the law came around and
Speaker 1: you got I don't know if I couldn't tell if
Speaker 1: someone knocked it out of his hands, but I do
Speaker 1: know he was startled enough to where he was not conscious.
Speaker 1: I think what he was doing. I remember correctly they
Speaker 1: gave Carlos Watkins he he had a forced fumble, so
Speaker 1: but it was very slight, but it was enough to
Speaker 1: wear it when you have running back to have fumbles.
Speaker 1: I remember we were working with we were talking about
Speaker 1: Zeke at one point he would get hit first and
Speaker 1: that would stun you. So now you don't know what
Speaker 1: you don't really have a concert where the ball is.
Speaker 1: Then it's the second hit that causes the damage. Right, well,
Speaker 1: but the first hit survive and this one it was
Speaker 1: a it was a mental hit because when when Parsons
Speaker 1: came inside, he immediately had to make a move he
Speaker 1: was not ready to make and then he was trapped
Speaker 1: as when he was trapped in there, and that's when
Speaker 1: Watkins slapped at it. Is that what happened last night
Speaker 1: to the Arizona or on the kitch out? It was
Speaker 1: Eric Scissor SAMs right, I thought he hit him in
Speaker 1: the face phase. I think I thought so too. I
Speaker 1: mean they could have ran out the game, h Mickey,
Speaker 1: as we close out mix shots. How about we mentioned
Speaker 1: the passing of Sam Blair. Sam Blair was the first
Speaker 1: professional football beat writer uh in North Texas, going back
Speaker 1: go over sixty years ago, and I actually had just
Speaker 1: learned of his passing yesterday. I don't normally look at
Speaker 1: the obituary page, but I did. Well. Here it is
Speaker 1: yesterday in the Dallas Morning News and he actually passed
Speaker 1: away peacefully on December eleventh, two weeks ago at the
Speaker 1: age of ninety. Wow. Woodrow Wilson High School, University of Texas.
Speaker 1: Just reading from his obituary here, the nicest guy, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know whatever, forty one year career at the Dallas
Speaker 1: Morning News. He was the lead sports columnist to the
Speaker 1: Dallas Morning News and sports editor and for forty one
Speaker 1: years I talked to him all the time. He was
Speaker 1: a contributor to the Cowboys Weekly and even I probably
Speaker 1: even when it became the Star magazine. And look, he
Speaker 1: was inducted into the Texas High School Football Hall of Fame,
Speaker 1: the North Texas Legends from the Press Club of Dallas,
Speaker 1: and UT's Daily Texan Hall of Fame. So I mean,
Speaker 1: he's been around, and you know what, when somebody's was gonna.
Speaker 1: I knew somebody's gonna ask me, what do you remember
Speaker 1: about Sam? Nicest guy you ever met, Even even when
Speaker 1: US newspapers were warring, he was always just talking to
Speaker 1: him a real jet because he was having that guy yeah,
Speaker 1: digging for anything, right. It was just basically just a
Speaker 1: conversation and we had when we did our documentary on
Speaker 1: UM I want to say it was called black and
Speaker 1: White maybe on what the race situation was in Dallas
Speaker 1: in the early sixties and what the players had to
Speaker 1: deal with. Some of them had, you know, admitting they
Speaker 1: were playing with a black player for the first time
Speaker 1: in their lives because they went to Southern universities. As
Speaker 1: Sam was really good at remembering things, and it was
Speaker 1: a really fun We went to his house and it
Speaker 1: was a really fun interview with him. He was so gracious,
Speaker 1: really nice guy. Also authored nine books, including books on
Speaker 1: Roger Staubach, Bob Lily, Earl Campbell, Grant Taff, and Lee Trevino,
Speaker 1: which tells you a lot about his relationship with so
Speaker 1: many different types of different sports and a trust worthiness
Speaker 1: that he had with those athletes and forty one years
Speaker 1: that's what I'm pretty sure that he has my quotes
Speaker 1: and a lot of his books because we talked. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: and it was just good to talk to. Like you said,
Speaker 1: nobody was. It wasn't about you know, trying to got
Speaker 1: you questions or anything like that. Well I remember even
Speaker 1: doing our legend shows, and I can't remember specifically the players,
Speaker 1: but players from the sixties they used to talk about
Speaker 1: relationship with the members of the media, and they would
Speaker 1: socialize with Sam Blair, you know, after games and stuff.
Speaker 1: It just shows new difference. Yeah, trust that was that
Speaker 1: was no one trying to leak anything. Yeah, whatever you
Speaker 1: told him, it stayed in his staff. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway,
Speaker 1: ninety years old, yea wow, yep, so condolences to the
Speaker 1: Blair family and a lot of in fact, as a
Speaker 1: kid growing up, and you may feel the same way, Everson.
Speaker 1: I just would open up my Dallas Morning News and
Speaker 1: there was the Sam Blair column, you know, the times
Speaker 1: Harold had Blackie shared and then me went to the
Speaker 1: morning News later, but then Sam was the lead sports columnists.
Speaker 1: A little difference between black that's right, that's right. How
Speaker 1: about this um And this was an interesting note in
Speaker 1: his oh bit It said, well, covering the Cowboys game,
Speaker 1: in DC a colleague. Colleague introduced him to the White
Speaker 1: House correspondent Karen Clintfelter. They married in nineteen seventy, so
Speaker 1: he met his wife covering a Cowboys game. Wow, how
Speaker 1: about that? There you go? All right? That does it
Speaker 1: for this edition of Mixed Shots, And we will shout
Speaker 1: at you again tomorrow. And we'll need to get Everson's
Speaker 1: picks to click as well. Okay, we're gonna have to
Speaker 1: get everyone gets tried. But Everson is on the road tomorrow,
Speaker 1: you mean ahead of time. That's right, all right, So
Speaker 1: we'll talk at you again noon tomorrow here on Mick
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