WEBVTT - Nihilist Violent Extremism 0:00:01.720 --> 0:00:04.960 Cool media. 0:00:05.200 --> 0:00:07.720 This is It could Happen Here a show about things 0:00:07.800 --> 0:00:10.719 falling apart, and this episode is about the people who 0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:14.000 want to make it being the United States fall apart 0:00:14.080 --> 0:00:17.200 even faster, allowing them to install a white s parremacist 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:20.000 ethno state, though it kind of feels like that's pretty 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:23.360 much already happening. This episode is also about the people 0:00:23.360 --> 0:00:26.960 in government who categorize and classify want to be terrorists, 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:30.360 who want the country to collapse faster, and what these 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:34.120 changes in categorization methods can tell us about the future 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:37.800 of the country. I'm Garrison Davison today I'm joined by 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:41.920 a very special guest, philosopher and comedian Michael Burns of 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:45.560 the YouTube channel Michael o'burns and formerly wiscrack rip. 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:50.800 How you doing pretty good, you know, besides living in 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:55.680 the world that you just described past that everything's going great. 0:00:56.120 --> 0:01:01.120 Yeah, that's kind of been my mood the past three months, 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:06.399 maybe longer. There's a tad, a tad like liminality. But 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:08.240 I don't know if that's just like living in denial 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:10.920 and trying to cope. But hey, you know what's wrong 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:12.200 with a little bit of coping. 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:15.920 Especially if it helps one simply survive these times. So 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:19.320 you know, I encourage a healthy dose of of coping 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:22.479 or sort of a you know, mental bifurcation, if that's 0:01:22.480 --> 0:01:24.039 what we need to do to get up in the 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:25.119 morning and get through it all. 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:25.560 Yay. 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:28.960 Now, Unfortunately, this episode that I have prepared today is 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:33.640 uh not a super cheery one for you, Michael, which 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:36.800 is which is maybe kind of kind of appropriate because 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:39.279 the reason why I have you on this episode today 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:41.959 is because the FBI and the Department of Justice have 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:47.120 come up with a new terrorism classification acronym which name 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:52.160 drops the internet's favorite and sometimes least favorite philosophy, nihilism. 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:57.760 They're they're calling these guys nihilistic violent extremists. Oh boy, 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:01.120 we will, we will get into this. Do you want 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:04.760 to give like a philosophy one oh one definition of nihilism? 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:10.000 A super well known and universally agreed upon term that 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:12.000 always means the same thing to everybody. 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:14.560 So yeah, it's not confusing it at all. 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:17.440 And yeah, I mean I think the root of it, 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:20.960 at least in like a modern philosophical sense is Nietzsche. 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:23.440 At least that's a common reference point. And when Nietzsche 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:26.600 is talking about nihilism, especially in a book like The 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:30.000 Genealogy Morality a lot of other places, he is making 0:02:30.000 --> 0:02:34.840 the argument that sort of Christian European culture, and particularly 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:40.720 a Christian European culture influenced by idealist philosophy, creates nihilism. 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:43.680 The reason he says it creates nihilism is because people 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:47.000 care more about Heaven than they do about earth. They 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:49.720 care more about the life they're going to have an 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:52.040 eternity than the life they have in the here and now. 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:56.240 So for him, it's like this devaluement of life that happens. 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:56.919 If your Christianity. 0:02:57.000 --> 0:03:00.880 More broadly speaking, nihilism has a I guess more positive usage, 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:05.360 which is the you know, disbelief in the inherent or 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:08.560 necessary meaning in an overarching. 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:10.040 System like in like the existential sense. 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:12.799 Yeah, so you kind of have this this distinction, and 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:16.280 some people use of positive and negative nihilism, and to 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:19.680 be really crass and simple here, negative nihilism is nothing 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:22.160 means anything, So I don't give a shit. I'm just 0:03:22.160 --> 0:03:25.920 gonna hang out and do whatever. Positive nihilism is there's 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:29.960 no inherent meaning in reality, but cool. Now, me and 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:33.320 the homies can construct meaning as we see fit, which 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:35.600 is more like the existentialist response, We're going to create 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:39.440 meaning where maybe there wasn't natural meaning in this like 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:42.040 old school Platonic or Christian sense. 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:45.560 And I'm not sure how much the FBI agents who 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:49.520 are doing these federal court filings have read Nietzsche or 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:54.320 the French existentialists and instead of probably using a colloquial 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:59.120 definition of nihilism, right this like oh nothing matters, you know, 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:03.680 this like app anthetic, postmodernist like idea to go a 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:05.400 little Jordan Petersony, right. 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:07.119 Yeah, I mean I think there's the sense in which 0:04:07.160 --> 0:04:11.240 it is the kind of weird Jordan Petersony alright, philosophy 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:15.040 version of nihilism, which just means like people that think 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:18.240 the dominance of the West is bad. And it also 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:22.520 reeks a little bit of like big Lebowski nihilism for totally, 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:25.800 you know. And of course in that movie, nihilism is 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:30.320 represented by a crew of I think Austrian techno producers 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:33.919 called Autobahn, who are also nihilists, and they say throughout 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:36.000 the film like we are nihilist, we believe in nothing, 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:38.360 which is a really and obviously the Coen Brothers made 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:40.159 that film, at least one of them was a philosophy major, 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:41.880 so they know what they're doing. That's kind of the 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:45.200 really basic, not good enough version of this thing that 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:47.640 it seems like the FBI is operating with, like people 0:04:47.640 --> 0:04:52.920 who don't believe in the goodness of the Western project. 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:55.200 Correct, and that's what they're really honing in on. I 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:59.480 will read an expanded definition of of nihilistic violent extremism. 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:01.640 This is This is from a Federal court filing and 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:05.680 dated March eighteenth, twenty twenty five. Nihilist violent extremists are 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:08.599 individuals to engage in criminal conduct within the United States 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:11.880 and abroad in furtherance of political, social, or religious goals 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:14.840 that derive primarily from a hatred of society at large 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:17.119 and a desire to bring about its collapse by sowing 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:22.479 indiscriminate chaos, destruction, and social instability. Nihlis violent extremists work 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:25.040 individually or as a part of a network with these 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:29.280 goals of destroying civilized society through the corruption and exploitation 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:34.680 of vulnerable populations, which often include minors. Now, this is 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:36.840 where it's going to get into some kind of weirder 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:40.719 stuff that we will kind of explain later. They have 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:43.720 like a second definition here quote nihilist vile extreamists, both 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:47.240 individually and as a network, systematically and methodically target vulnerable 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:49.720 populations across the United States and the globe. They frequently 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:52.760 use social media communication platforms to connect with individuals and 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:56.880 desensitize them to violence, among other things, breaking down societal 0:05:56.880 --> 0:06:01.200 norms regarding engaging in violence, normalizing the possession, production, and 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:04.920 sharing of gore materials, and otherwise corrupting and grooming those 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:09.560 individuals towards committing future acts of violence unquote. And that 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:12.520 kind of outlines some of the strategy of these groups, 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:16.240 the groups that they're kind of gonna mention here. I've 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:20.960 been doing like freelance research on for about four years now. 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:25.400 I've been trying to publish a few articles on these 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:27.840 guys over the years, but it's always it's always tricky, 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:31.880 and we will get to kind of the darker corners 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:34.440 of that in a sect. But let's let's first kind 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:39.240 of talk about what this new term, this nvees nihilist 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:42.880 violent extremists. What this is kind of replacing the in 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:48.080 the FBI lexicon. Now, it seems that this term is 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:51.960 being used in place of two previous FBI terrorism categories. 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:56.160 This is from a November twenty twenty FBI bulletin quote 0:06:56.600 --> 0:07:01.240 anti government or anti authority violent extremism. This threatet ncompasses 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:04.880 the potentially unlawful use or threat of force or violence 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:09.120 in furtherance of ideological agendas derived from anti government or 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:13.240 anti authority sentiment, including opposition to perceived economic, social, or 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:17.880 racial hierarchies, or perceived government overreach, negligence, or illegitimacy. 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:21.440 Can I say something that stood out to me about 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:25.480 those definitions? The hatred thing I found really interesting in 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:28.240 like the very first definition you give that nihilism is 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:32.280 defined as like in a motive state, because again, I 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:36.000 think nihilism is classically conceived totally is almost more like 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:39.320 ontological or metaphysical, And by that I just mean looking 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:42.480 at these structures of belief in the world. So rather 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:45.679 than being like motivated by hatred or love or fear 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:50.320 or whatever, a more classically nihilists few is just again like, oh, 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:52.640 I've been sold a bill of goods on what the 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:56.360 meaning of existences or what the undermining underlying principles of 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:58.720 political reality are, And now I see that they are 0:07:58.760 --> 0:07:59.960 maybe bs. 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:02.480 The hatred of society and wanting to collapse it. 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:05.960 Yeah, I guess there's just like this negativity associated with 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:08.240 all that language. And of course I was having never 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:11.040 heard the definitions that you were just bringing up, you know, 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:13.800 the way in which it just quickly zigs and zags 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:17.320 to like some very dark stuff in terms of like radicalization. 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:19.400 That seemed like there was a reference towards like a 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:21.840 like like pedophilia or something there. 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:24.440 Child sexual abust materials. Yeah, come up a little bit. 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:27.840 Yeah, Yeah, so it just getting from A to B. 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:29.920 There is more like getting from A to Z or something. 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:32.280 It's just not a connection that I think would be 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:36.360 obvious to anyone who has thought about, read about written 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:39.360 about nihilism as more of an intellectual or even like 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:42.000 a political and philosophical concept. 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:44.280 Totally, because there is like political nihilists and like the 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:47.240 Russian tradition and more recently in like the American Aniatest 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:50.600 tradition or the Greek anarchist tradition, where they believe in 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:54.080 this like idea of like intigation and trying to trying 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:56.240 to like negate to government institutions. 0:08:56.520 --> 0:08:59.160 Yeah, but which is still a far cry from believing 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:05.520 in causing active harm psychologically, physically whatever to human beings 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:08.720 vulnerable populations. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, there's a sense in which 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:11.120 it's painted as like if you knew nothing else and 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:13.040 you were to read those definitions and you were just 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:17.280 scared suburban insurance salesman or something, it would sound as 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:19.880 if it was like a death cult infecting the minds 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:23.440 of children, like zombie esque little super soldiers. 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:27.320 That's actually what they're going for. And I have I 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:30.120 have a lot of mixed opinions on this term because 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:32.199 I think this term is trying to describe a group 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:35.760 that does kind of defy classification. But I think the 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:40.240 use of the nihilist term is also not good. So 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:42.640 I'm kind of in a rock and a hard place 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:45.559 here as someone who does a lot of extremism research. Now, 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:49.520 the other term that the FBI is probably seeking to replace, 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:53.240 at least in part with this new nihilism definition is 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:57.360 racially or ethnically motivated violent extremism. Right, this is like 0:09:57.360 --> 0:10:01.000 your what term assists your neo nazis. The FBI defines 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:04.199 it as quote. This threating compasses the potentially unlawful use 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:06.600 or threat of force or violence and furtherance of ideological 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:10.079 agendas derived from bias, often relating to race or ethnicity 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:14.000 held by the actor against others or a given population group. 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:17.560 Racially or ethnically motivated Violet extreamists purported to use both 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:20.920 political and religious justifications to support their racially or ethnically 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:26.160 based ideological objectives and criminal activities. This was the group 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:29.360 that saw like a massive, a massive explosion and growth 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:32.280 the past ten years, really starting around twenty sixteen to 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:36.480 twenty seventeen, with you know, the Neo Nazi mass shooting 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:39.959 like epidemic, especially around like twenty seventeen to twenty nineteen. 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:43.560 This is the most lethal group and it grew exponentially 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:45.760 during that period, and we're kind of seeing some of 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:50.040 these groups start to reform now. Now there's been some 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:54.040 reporting that this that this anti government or anti authority 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:56.840 violent extremism, which I'm just going to say agave, which 0:10:56.840 --> 0:10:59.520 is the acronym, which does make me a little bit 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:04.000 hungry for a glucose syrup, but it's fine. Now, there's 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:07.280 been some reporting that state agave is specifically like a 0:11:07.360 --> 0:11:11.040 Biden era term, but it actually like predates the Biden 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:14.960 presidency and was in use under Trump. In fact, a 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:17.520 lot of the internal FBI reforms that are being reported 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:21.360 on right now are actually undoing changes and counter terrorism 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:25.320 strategies that started under the first Trump presidency. But we'll 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:27.560 get more on that later. We're gonna go on an 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:31.200 ad break real quick and return to talk about a 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:45.360 gruesome act of violence in Wisconsin last month. All right, 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:48.600 we are back. I'm gonna get more into how the 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:51.640 government is using this term and like what they are 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:55.480 applying it to, what they're applying the nihilist of violent 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:59.800 extremism labeled to. Earlier this year, a Wisconsin team mal 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:03.760 Nikota Cassup killed his parents in an attempt to gain 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:07.480 the financial means and autonomy necessary to carry out a 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:11.400 plot to assassinate President Trump and accelerate the collapse of 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:15.000 the United States. I'm going to read a quote from 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:19.600 a federal criminal complaint filed last month. Quote. On March third, 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:22.880 twenty twenty five, County sheriffs obtained a search warrant for 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:26.680 casp cell phone. During the review, they identified material on 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:30.599 the phone related to quote unquote the order of nine angles. 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:33.920 The sheriff's review of the phone identified possible usernames for Cassup, 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:40.200 including Accelerationists fourteen and Awoken unquote. Now, Michael are you 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:44.000 unfortunate enough to be familiar with the Order of Nine Angles? 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:45.800 I am not so. 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:48.120 This is a group that was originally based in the 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:52.280 UK and now is primarily active in Eastern Europe, though 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:55.600 there are branches or spin offs called nexions in the 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:59.319 United States. This is a group that is kind of 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:02.520 hard to find. People often call it a Nazi Satanist group. 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:05.840 I think it's more accurate to call them a like 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:10.520 white supremacist, a cultic group who essentially try to cultivate 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:13.520 evil for the sake of evil. They're like a left 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:18.160 hand Path, a cult group that has orchestrated multiple terrorist attacks, 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:22.720 especially through radicalizing US soldiers. At this point, they're pretty 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:26.520 mythic with their writing and tactics, leaving a strong lingering 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:30.440 presence across the left hand Path, fascist, occult mill u. 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:34.600 We also have a reference to quote unquote accelerationism here, 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:37.439 which kind of similar to nihilism. Is like this philosophical 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:40.240 term which has kind of been like warped and changed 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:44.840 VIA's people's application of it in politics, and specifically kind 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:46.040 of the way that we're going to be using this 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:49.600 word here is this idea of trying to like accelerate 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:53.080 the collapse of the country, mostly to install like a 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:55.920 white spremacist AFT in a state after the country has collapsed. 0:13:56.000 --> 0:13:58.280 This is how most Nazis use the term, even though 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:01.040 it has a slightly different cultural back ground with the 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:02.920 work of Nick Land and Fisher. 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:05.400 When I was growing up, acceleration just man accelerating the 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:06.760 contradictions of capitalism. 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:12.559 But kids these days, that's right, not a good one. 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:17.200 So this federal criminal complaint alleges that Cassip was communicating 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:19.880 with people on the messaging app Telegram, and these people 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:23.320 were possibly in Ukraine and or Russia, and these people 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:27.840 helped him plan this attack. The FBI found TikTok messages 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:30.920 on his phone where he discussed the struggle of telling 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:34.000 his friends that he quote unquote follows O nine A 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:37.360 teachings that's order of nine angles, and he discussed a 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:40.040 previous FBI visit to his home in twenty twenty three. 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:43.400 In other exchanges on TikTok, he shared information with a 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:49.200 user named Nihilis about how to find Nazi telegram channels. 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:51.080 I'm gonna I'm gonna read through some of this. Some 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:55.680 of this chat transcript Nihilis, Hey, dude, do you know 0:14:55.760 --> 0:14:59.360 any telegram groups where niners that's oh, nine A and 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:05.680 drex can interact and exchange info. Awoken, that's cassup. Sorry No, 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:10.640 I'm mostly in NSWP telegram groups l ol. If you 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:13.120 do find any, it'd be nice if you tell me nihilis. 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:20.640 What's WP awoke, Wikipedia dot org, slash national underscore, socialism underscore, 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:25.400 white power, nihilus, Oh, white power cool? Awoken? Do you 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:28.880 know any on nine A telegram groups? Nihlis? Oh, not 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:32.440 a group, but a channel. You can find documents there. Awoken? 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:35.920 All right, send awoken? Can you send me the link 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:39.520 to the account? Awoken? It says, I can't access the message, Nihlis, 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:42.400 How can I do that? Wait a second? Awoken. Here's 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:46.960 my telegram user name, Accelerationists fourteen nihilis. I sent a message, 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:48.000 So there you go. 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:49.960 That's the man. 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:56.240 Just There is some later telegram messages that are archived 0:15:56.320 --> 0:16:00.240 in this in this complaint as well, where at Accelerationists says, 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:02.600 what country do you think will get the blame for this? 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:07.160 Meaning his planned attack? An unknown user replied, Russia will 0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:11.480 be blamed for it. This is the goal, Accelerationist said. Quote. 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:14.400 When the time comes for me to send my manifesto 0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:16.360 to you so you can spread it online. Should it 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:19.960 be a pdf? Also? 0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:22.640 Sorry, I just like that when the contacts all that 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:25.360 they're discussing file types, and. 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:30.120 Also you won't anyhow change or modify the manifesto, The 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:32.440 unknown user replies, write it on a piece of paper 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:33.280 and take a picture. 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:33.960 Wow. 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:38.120 The FBI personnel performing the preliminary review saw images of 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:43.280 a three page document titled Accelerate the Collapse. The images 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:46.480 are screen grabs displayed on a phone, and these images 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:49.440 were created on February twenty eight, twenty twenty five. This 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:53.520 document is the manifesto referred to by at Accelerationist. The 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:55.560 manifesto calls for the assassination of the President of the 0:16:55.640 --> 0:16:58.520 United States in order to ferment a political revolution in 0:16:58.520 --> 0:17:00.760 the United States to quote unquote is save the white 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:05.480 race from quote unquote Jewish controlled politicians. The third page 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:08.160 of the document contains images of Adolf Hitler with text 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:12.320 that reads quote Hail Hitler, Hail the White Race, Hail victory. Now, 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:15.720 from what I can read of this manifesto, it's pretty basic. 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:19.000 It's heavily plagiarized, like most of these kind of white 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:23.800 supremacist accelerationist manifestos are It talks about how Jews control 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:27.480 white countries and are promoting white genocide and degeneracy. Talks 0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:31.480 about the need to quote unquote collapse Jewish occupied governments. 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:34.480 The manifesto states that his motivation for wanting to kill 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:38.320 Trump was to sow chaos and raise public awareness that 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:42.120 quote assassinations and accelerating the collapse are possible things to do. 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:45.760 Unquote not that possible since he's arrested and did not 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:50.440 accelerate the collapse. But he also advocates that people unable 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:53.200 to commit to taking direct action instead make connections with 0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:55.360 other white supremacists and grow a network to take over 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:59.560 the country once America collapses. He recommends the writing of 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:03.919 not accelerationists, including James Mason, who wrote the influential Nazi 0:18:03.920 --> 0:18:07.760 book Siege, and the Terror gram Collective, a group of 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:09.879 white premacists from around the world who organized on the 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:13.440 messaging platform telegram to share guides on how to do terrorism. 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:17.360 He also recommends the writings of former Adam Waffen, members 0:18:17.640 --> 0:18:21.560 an American accelerationist group, writing quote, there's much to learn 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:24.560 from the successes and mistakes of Adam Waffin. I think 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:27.320 it's worth noting that Adam Waffin was also either like 0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:31.840 infiltrated or partially co opted and inspired by some nine 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:35.720 A teachings. This is kind of how the more bizarre 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:39.040 and occultic influence of O nine A seeped more into 0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:43.560 the kind of general American accelerationist Nazi millu. This was 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:47.280 like in like twenty eighteen. Now. Castip advises that if 0:18:47.359 --> 0:18:50.679 the reader of the manifesto is already like pilled, that 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:53.760 you should just skip the theory and just read practical 0:18:53.800 --> 0:18:57.240 how to guides for terrorism and bomb making, since quote unquote, 0:18:57.320 --> 0:19:00.720 there is no political solution. Huge amounts of violence will 0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:03.840 be required long past the days where we can vote 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:06.959 for a Hitler to save us. White revolution is the 0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:10.240 only solution, unquote, which is I guess I'm kind of 0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:12.639 desensitized to this sort of stuff. In fact, I just 0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:15.920 find this slightly funny considering kind of the victory lap 0:19:16.000 --> 0:19:18.600 that like Steven Miller and like white nationalists are currently 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:21.640 having in the government where many of them do think 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:23.520 they can just vote for a Hitler to save us, 0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:26.399 and that Hitler may already be in office forever. 0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:28.600 Well, that is it's so shocking hearing all this as 0:19:28.640 --> 0:19:31.119 someone that doesn't know all these details. I mean, a 0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:33.119 I feel like the blinders just got taken off me 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:36.720 and I'm seeking the world anew But be shocking that 0:19:36.840 --> 0:19:40.080 from a more normy perspective, in my mind, I would 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:42.480 think all of these types would be pretty excited about 0:19:42.480 --> 0:19:45.639 how things are going politically, not trying to tear things 0:19:45.640 --> 0:19:46.280 down further. 0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:49.240 It's like, you guys won you know, accept it. 0:19:49.359 --> 0:19:51.399 Even Trump is not extremely enough for a lot of 0:19:51.400 --> 0:19:55.280 these guys. Yeah, they really go places now. Cassup was 0:19:55.320 --> 0:19:58.000 coordinating with multiple Telegram users, likely in Ukraine and Russia, 0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:00.280 on how to build a drone that can up and 0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:05.199 explosive and paid some individuals for some of the required materials, 0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:08.320 and also had a plan to flee to Ukraine after 0:20:08.359 --> 0:20:12.600 his attack. That he was coordinating with Ukrainian Nazis on telegram. 0:20:13.000 --> 0:20:14.480 Tough look for telegram. 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:20.879 It's always a tough look for telegram. Not great, not 0:20:20.960 --> 0:20:23.760 a great platform, pretty much only used by these guys. 0:20:24.600 --> 0:20:24.800 Yeah. 0:20:24.840 --> 0:20:26.440 No, he was talking about how he probably needs to 0:20:26.520 --> 0:20:29.960 quote unquote brush up on my Russian Ah, yeah, definitely 0:20:30.080 --> 0:20:34.080 before he flees to Ukraine after trying to kill the president. 0:20:34.480 --> 0:20:37.560 Yeah, you download due lingo after you do that. 0:20:37.560 --> 0:20:40.600 That's right, That's right. He had plans to meet up 0:20:40.640 --> 0:20:43.720 with with ten people with similar beliefs in Ukraine. 0:20:44.240 --> 0:20:46.399 My mind is just so blown by all this. I 0:20:47.000 --> 0:20:49.560 thought I knew things. I know nothing now. 0:20:49.680 --> 0:20:54.360 On March tenth, Sheriffs interviewed a classmate of cassup, and 0:20:54.440 --> 0:20:57.040 the classmate told them that the cassip would send quote 0:20:57.080 --> 0:21:02.040 unquote gore edit videos that floods flashing like gore, like 0:21:02.200 --> 0:21:07.240 bodygore imagery and war images put to Russian music sent 0:21:07.400 --> 0:21:11.760 via Snapchat. This is a common tactic done by these 0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:14.960 sort of like teenage extremists. This is this is a 0:21:14.960 --> 0:21:18.280 whole like subgenre of video that has like changed and 0:21:18.359 --> 0:21:21.399 altered in esthetic multiple times. Frankly, if you spend enough 0:21:21.440 --> 0:21:23.920 time on Twitter now in the comments of blue check 0:21:23.960 --> 0:21:26.440 Neo Nazis, you can find some of these edits where 0:21:26.480 --> 0:21:30.160 they have like you know, like techno techno like fast 0:21:30.200 --> 0:21:32.439 paced sometimes like Russian music set to like you know, 0:21:32.520 --> 0:21:36.440 glorified images of like like like Rome or Nazi Germany, 0:21:36.680 --> 0:21:39.960 or a large variety of stuff. But the gore genre 0:21:40.080 --> 0:21:43.080 is specifically unique to kind of the to the oh 0:21:43.200 --> 0:21:45.720 nine to a like a cultic Nazi branch, because they 0:21:45.800 --> 0:21:49.200 think that like viewing these images like increases your power 0:21:49.280 --> 0:21:50.479 level of like evil. 0:21:50.640 --> 0:21:50.760 Right. 0:21:50.800 --> 0:21:53.480 It's a very video game view of like of like 0:21:53.560 --> 0:21:55.840 spiritual development. Like you have to you have to like 0:21:55.920 --> 0:21:58.840 raise your evil stat by looking at gore and this 0:21:58.880 --> 0:22:01.240 will make you more able to commit like big acts 0:22:01.280 --> 0:22:01.840 of violence. 0:22:02.000 --> 0:22:05.240 WHOA, So just desensitizing yourself to them, it just makes 0:22:05.280 --> 0:22:07.240 you a more violent person and capable of doing these 0:22:07.240 --> 0:22:07.960 things yourself. 0:22:08.160 --> 0:22:11.920 Correct correct, And that's like a big part of their process. 0:22:12.320 --> 0:22:14.480 This is why they send this type of stuff to 0:22:14.520 --> 0:22:16.199 a lot of like kids on the internet, because they 0:22:16.240 --> 0:22:18.920 hope that if they deesitize these kids, it'll be easier 0:22:18.960 --> 0:22:21.600 to convince them to then do acts of violence themselves. 0:22:22.080 --> 0:22:25.120 Cassip told his classmate that he intended to kill his 0:22:25.160 --> 0:22:27.920 parents by shooting them, but could not because he didn't 0:22:27.920 --> 0:22:30.720 have access to a gun. He later told his classmate 0:22:30.720 --> 0:22:32.360