1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 2: Well, it is officially the off season of the Almost 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 2: Famous podcast, and we're going nowhere. Ashley, what's up? 5 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 3: Well, it's up. This is the smallest off season of 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 3: all times, because before you know it, we'll be back, 7 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 3: because I think it's like three weeks and then we 8 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 3: come back to something amazing. We're gonna have Paradise and 9 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 3: The Golden Bachelor both on Thursdays. Ben, we have like 10 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 3: I feel stupid for the headline that is obviously first 11 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 3: up this week, which is Hannah Godwin and Dylan Barber's wedding. 12 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 3: It was magical. Remember how last week there was a 13 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 3: headline that said that like perhaps they were like eloping, 14 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 3: Like what was happening. We didn't see anything going on 15 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 3: on Instagram. They're like, hey, what's up. We're in France, 16 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 3: it's wedding week. And I had said something I just 17 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 3: feel dumb because of course, like Hannah and Dylan are 18 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 3: gonna like live it up, and of course they're gonna 19 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 3: have bachelor friends there, but like we didn't have anything 20 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 3: that had happened over the weekend because they got married 21 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 3: on the weekdays. I think it was maybe Tuesday, okay, 22 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 3: and oh my gosh, what a spectacular event it was. 23 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 3: People were saying, this is the Bachelor's Well, why do 24 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 3: you feel dumb wedding? I don't, I cause, like, why 25 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 3: would I ever even say things like they're not going 26 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 3: to have like a big to do, like they're going 27 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 3: to a lope, or like they're not going to have 28 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 3: bachelor friends there, like of course they are. 29 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 2: Some people don't though. I mean, I I don't think 30 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 2: it was a terrible take because maybe I was just 31 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 2: out of the loop. But I didn't know that their 32 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: wedding was coming up. I don't think they had talked 33 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 2: about like their wedding happening this week. 34 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 3: Oh but they but they did. We just didn't know 35 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 3: where it was going to take, where it was going 36 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 3: to be always seeing Hannah like try on dresses. 37 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: But we just didn't know the extravagance of it. We 38 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 2: didn't know the details at all of it. 39 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 3: And it was so breathtaking. I wasn't there, but we've 40 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 3: also like just stalked it on Instagram. It was just 41 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 3: like it was that a French chateau really like a 42 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 3: French palace. It's a Chateau de Villetti and it was 43 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 3: about an hour outside of Paris. They had one hundred 44 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 3: and forty five friends and family members. Actually, we are 45 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 3: having Heather Martin on the show tomorrow so she can 46 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 3: give her first hand detail, so I'll kind of breeze 47 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 3: buy this. I did see Heather actually this weekend at 48 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 3: another wedding, because this girl has been on a parade 49 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 3: of three weddings over the past like week and a half. 50 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 2: Whose wedding were you at? 51 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 3: I was at my friend Courtney Bagby's wedding. She do 52 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 3: you know Corny? 53 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 2: I don't. 54 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 3: You must have met Courdy and so she's a huge 55 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 3: Bachelor fan and she's an agent for some bachelor lums. 56 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 3: So she just said, you know, de doctor. She was 57 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 3: just like, I mean, it was like out right, just 58 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 3: the fireworks went on for twenty minutes. Did you see 59 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 3: the videos of the fireworks? 60 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,679 Speaker 2: Yeah? It was beautiful wedding, all the details. Again, we 61 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 2: were just interested in this wedding because obviously it was 62 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 2: gorgeous wedding. There were bachelor lums there. Having Heather kind 63 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 2: of tie some loosens for us and give us the 64 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 2: behind the scenes will be really helpful and So again, 65 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 2: if you're interested in this wedding, we're gonna get all 66 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,119 Speaker 2: the details with Heather Martin, who attended the wedding part 67 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 2: of the Bachelor Nation. Few that went but the faithful 68 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: that went on this week. That's a huge week for 69 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 2: the Almost Famous podcast. Also, Ashley, we have a couple 70 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 2: other weddings coming up. We have Dean and Kalin's wedding 71 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 2: obviously coming up here in a few weeks. There's a 72 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 2: lot of love in the air, and I have a 73 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 2: feeling that, yes, as you mentioned, Paradise just a few 74 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: short weeks away, Golden Bachelor will be airing as well. 75 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 2: I have a feeling we're gonna be talking about brand new, 76 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 2: beautiful love stories coming from these next few seasons. 77 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 3: There's also so many of our past love stories that 78 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 3: are all cementing things with weddings. Yeah, like this month 79 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 3: and last so it was Hannah and Dylan, Marie and 80 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 3: Kenny are coming up, and then we also have Serena 81 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 3: and Joe who are technically still married. Then there's one 82 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 3: other that I'm missing, I. 83 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 2: Mean Thomas and Becca. 84 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 3: Becca and Thomas. 85 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, but then. 86 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 3: Duh, how did I forget the one wedding of them 87 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 3: all that we're going to deven Caleins next month. 88 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. So there's some big weddings coming up, a lot 89 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 2: of love happening in the air, which is a really 90 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 2: exciting time for the Bachelor. I know that you and 91 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 2: I in the past and we haven't been as much recently, 92 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 2: but we've been critical of kind of the trajectory of 93 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 2: the show. I think this last season showed the lack 94 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 2: of drama, showed the more of the love story. Obviously, 95 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 2: we got a great love story from Charity Season that 96 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 2: I think we'll be talking about for years to come. 97 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:41,559 Speaker 2: I will say though, this new kind of era of 98 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 2: the Bachelor franchise, yes, it felt more dramatic at times, 99 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 2: but it has been leading to what I feel like 100 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 2: is a kind of plethora of weddings and cemented love 101 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 2: stories more than maybe in the past. We've been doing 102 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 2: this for eight years, and I think we're talking about 103 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 2: weddings more than we ever have. 104 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 3: So too, for sure, And I just want to say 105 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 3: that I've you know, you know, out and about just 106 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 3: talking to people about Charity Season over the past couple seasons. 107 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 3: Before that, I was getting a lot of people being like, 108 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 3: just like not that into it. Anymore, you know, just 109 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,559 Speaker 3: like I don't know if I feel the lead. People 110 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 3: come up to me now they're like, oh my gosh, 111 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 3: did you love this season? Like She and Down are 112 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 3: meant to be. So it's just nice to hear that stuff. 113 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we're in a good I think it's 114 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 2: it's a good season for the Bachelor franchise. I do 115 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 2: believe there is a lot of hope and a lot 116 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 2: of forward excitement. I'm personally Ashley, as you said, just 117 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 2: a few weeks away from Paradise and The Golden Bachelor. 118 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 2: I know it is going to be a marathon of 119 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 2: Bachelor in my life for for hours every week. But 120 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 2: I will say that typically there's a sense of anxiety, 121 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 2: like I don't know if I can commit to watching 122 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 2: this many hours of the show every week. And Charity 123 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 2: season was different because I enjoyed watching it, I was 124 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 2: into it. I feel very excited I did about the 125 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 2: Paradise and The Golden Bachelor. I am excited to tune in. 126 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 2: I'm excited to see how they play out. And so 127 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 2: this is a season of excitement for me when it 128 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 2: comes to show, which I have not felt other than 129 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 2: Charity Season in some years. 130 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 3: I know and everybody and have got annoyed with us 131 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 3: when we're just so harsh on Zach's season. Actually, Zach 132 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 3: season was kind of enjoyable towards the end. I mean 133 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 3: not kind of, I mean I really enjoyed his Top 134 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 3: four era. 135 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 2: And there's another great love story that comes from another 136 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:32,119 Speaker 2: great love story. 137 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 138 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 2: Well, speaking of love stories, yeah, speaking of love stories 139 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 2: that have came from Paradise. Raven Gates reveals if she 140 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 2: and Adam want another baby and discuss going from one 141 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 2: kid to two kids. 142 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, Raven did a Q and A on her Instagram. 143 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 3: I love Raven's Instagram. I'm always whenever I see she 144 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 3: has a fresh story up, I'm always interested to see 145 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 3: what it's about. I just feel like her. She is 146 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 3: like real about motherhood while also just being like such 147 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 3: a now mother that I'm like, you do make it 148 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 3: look easy, even though I know it's not easy for you. 149 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 3: I just like watching her motherhood anyway. So she obviously 150 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 3: has just about an over month year old and the 151 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 3: month youre a month old, and then she also has 152 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 3: Gates who's a little over a year and a half. 153 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 3: And now people are of course asking in the Q 154 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 3: and a's are you going to have another one? So 155 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 3: the direct answer is it's kind of how this one, 156 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 3: you know, how they go with two for right now. 157 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 3: But they are planning out their house. They're building a 158 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 3: house next year and Adam has made sure that in 159 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 3: the plans there are three kids rooms. So i'd say, 160 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 3: i'd say expect more from them. She is having a 161 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 3: little bit of a rough time right now. Just this 162 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 3: Morning's You're you know, she said that Gates is sick 163 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 3: and she has metisas. I think I'm saying it correctly. 164 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 3: It's when the ducks in your in your breast get 165 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 3: clogged up and. 166 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 2: Becomes so soulful yes so. 167 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 3: Yeah so, and it makes you have like other full 168 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 3: body symptoms. And she is going to the doctor, i 169 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 3: think today to get that fixed out. But she's like 170 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 3: really disappointed because the breastfeeding journey this time around was 171 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 3: going a lot easier than it was for Gates, and 172 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 3: now with this she just this week kind of stopped 173 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 3: producing milk and hasmetisis. And that's all a rough situation, 174 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 3: but you know, she'll get through. We're thinking about her. 175 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 2: I Uh, this is just a side story. I wonder 176 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 2: if it's the same thing. I forget. I was in 177 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 2: high school and I got into my buddy's hot tub 178 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 2: and it was the chemicals were not up to balance, 179 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 2: and all of us that were in the hot tub 180 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 2: got out and. 181 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 3: Like I remember this, yeah, you telling me this. 182 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 2: It was like the next day, I woke up so sick. 183 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 2: I had lumps, like all of my like pores were 184 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 2: like clogged up in lumpy and I like fevers and sweats. 185 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 2: It was one of like I only remember that because 186 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 2: it was one of the most painful experiences. And so 187 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 2: I wonder if that's the same thing that Raven has, 188 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 2: because if so, and she's raising a child right now, 189 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 2: Like I can't imagine like I was bedridden, like I could. 190 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 2: I was such a baby during that time. 191 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 3: It's definitely not the same thing, but it could be 192 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 3: like related, yeah, something with it. And then I just 193 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 3: say that she also like they seem to be on 194 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 3: dates all the time, and I'm so jealous. I'm like, 195 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 3: they just like seem to have the best relationship. And 196 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 3: somebody was like, how do you like always have date nights? 197 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 3: And she says that she schedules them in advance, so 198 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 3: like they know like for the month, what nights they're 199 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 3: going out to just be the you know, just have 200 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 3: quality time. And then I told Jared to go. Jared, 201 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm jealous of this, like can we do this? 202 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 3: And no, Now we've decided that every other Wednesday, we're 203 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 3: gonna do it. Thanks to Raven and Adam. 204 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 2: My parents did that. My parents had date nights consistently 205 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 2: when I was growing up. And then I also talked 206 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 2: to Jessica's parents and they would do this. I don't 207 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 2: know when theirs was, but like a lot of couples 208 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 2: I talk to who have been married, it feels like 209 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 2: one it's not the secret sauce, but it's a piece 210 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 2: of a healthy relationship I think is having something scheduled, 211 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 2: getting away. I also think it's good for the kids 212 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 2: because they're you know, they're not dependent on you always 213 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 2: being around, and they kind of just expect on Tuesday 214 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 2: nights every week or every other week or once a month, 215 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 2: you know, mom and dad are going to go out 216 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 2: and they're gonna come back, and they're a little happier 217 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 2: than they usually are, a little more giggly, and like, 218 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 2: I think it's good for the kids to see. I'm 219 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 2: just I'm impressed with Raven and Adam's commitment. They're just 220 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 2: a great couple to be around too. 221 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, they are. 222 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 2: They're a lot of fun. One couple that didn't work 223 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 2: out was Clayton and Susie. I still even reading this 224 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 2: headline am shocked. It's it's like almost wild to me 225 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 2: that they were ever together. Like, I don't even picture 226 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 2: When I think see Susie's Instagram, I don't remember her 227 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 2: with Clayton. And when I see Clayton's there, I don't 228 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 2: remember him with Susie. 229 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 3: I think of her with like justin just Glaze, because 230 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 3: she does like a lot of content with Justin Gliz. 231 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 3: She's in that friend group, and I'm like, they could 232 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 3: be cute. 233 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 2: They could be cute. Well, here's the headline. Susie Evans 234 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 2: reveals the most disgusting and frustrating thing about dating in 235 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 2: La Okay. 236 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, so she said that everyone is really career driven, 237 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 3: and she says, maybe I'm part of the problem, but no, 238 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 3: there's a bigger problem happening and it doesn't really have 239 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 3: to do with dating culture, although it does kind of, 240 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 3: she goes it does this is like he's a stream 241 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 3: of consciousness. Basically, she goes. The thing I find the 242 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 3: most annoying about dating in la is when I'm not 243 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 3: even trying to date, Like, for example, a man approaches 244 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 3: me with a business opportunity and I'm down to get 245 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 3: together with this person to work on a project, and 246 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 3: then this person has to take me out and wants 247 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 3: to take me on a date and get to know 248 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 3: me on a different level. When I express that I'm 249 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 3: not interested, then all those business opportunities get pulled out 250 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 3: from underneath you. 251 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 2: It's fine, really disgusting. 252 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is really gross. She goes, I make money 253 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 3: on social media and I have a videography business. I 254 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 3: film weddings. I'm good. I don't need your business if 255 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 3: it means I have to date you. And then she 256 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 3: continues by saying, I just find that it to be 257 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 3: the most disgusting and frustrating thing that I've experienced. 258 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 2: Now. 259 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 3: I see when people move to big cities that are 260 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 3: trying to make something new, people see them as vulnerable 261 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 3: and try to capitalize on it. I am so grateful 262 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 3: that I don't give about money and I don't need 263 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 3: this person's opportunity. I literally cannot be bothered. 264 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 2: I just find this like there's like, I don't know, Ash, 265 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 2: there's something. I mean, there's a lot of things about 266 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 2: this that just like really feel wrong and unhealthy. And 267 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 2: it feels like the stories of the past that we 268 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 2: would like to believe that we've moved past and moved through. 269 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 2: But the fact that people are interested in working with 270 00:12:55,280 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 2: somebody with an idea of romantic relationship kind of being 271 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 2: the at the forefront feels just gross at every level. 272 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 2: And I've never like dated in LA, but you know, 273 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 2: obviously used to spend a lot of time in La. 274 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:15,719 Speaker 2: Never dated in La, so you but you had have 275 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 2: lived there. I mean, is this something that you were 276 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 2: familiar with? Does it feel like this is the dating 277 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 2: scene in LA where I mean, for me, I always 278 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,079 Speaker 2: feel like LA exhausted me because yes, it was always 279 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 2: like who's doing more, who's doing better, who's making more money? 280 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 2: What project are you working on today? And it just 281 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 2: felt tiring to me because there's many times in my life, 282 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 2: especially recently, I want to answered I'm not working on 283 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 2: anything new, like there's nothing like, there's nothing excite me 284 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 2: as exciting going on other than me being happily content 285 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 2: and the stuff that I'm already invested into. LA always 286 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 2: tired me out. So I would love to hear your 287 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 2: thoughts on dating in LA and also kind of the 288 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 2: social scene. 289 00:13:56,240 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I'm so very few dated, you know, 290 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 3: what do you mean? I hated going on dates so much. 291 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 3: When I think about days in LA, A couple come 292 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 3: to mind. One one I think I've shared here because 293 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 3: it was just the most the utter, most disgusting experience 294 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 3: I've ever had because the guy, within an hour of 295 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 3: knowing me, asked when the last time I had sex was, 296 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 3: and then he also asked me when the last time 297 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 3: I did something like uh like, let's just say third 298 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 3: base for the PG audience, and I was like, wait, 299 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 3: what that was? Within an hour? Little did he know 300 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 3: that he was talking to the bachelor's virgin. Yeah, so 301 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 3: that was my experience. 302 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 2: And was like, hey, when was the last time he had sex? 303 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 2: Like they that's just such. 304 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 3: When was the last time you got laid? 305 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 2: Oh goodness, that's just something I mean, I don't know, 306 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 2: that's just something I would never think. 307 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 3: You imagine. 308 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 2: No, it just feels so weird and it feels so 309 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 2: uncomfort and like I'm wondering if that is I mean, 310 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 2: there's just here's my here's my comment to that one. 311 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 2: That's just a weird question too. That person has terrible game. 312 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 2: Terrible game, like if that is what they lean on, 313 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 2: if they can't be funny enough, if they can't be 314 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 2: witty enough, if they can't be engaging enough or interested enough, 315 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,479 Speaker 2: and you as a human to like get you interested 316 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 2: in maybe having some type of romantic relationship with them, 317 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 2: if they are interested in a romantic relationship, if they 318 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 2: have to like throw out, hey, when's the last time 319 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 2: you did this? Like that feels like that feels like 320 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 2: freshman year of high school? 321 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 3: Yeah right, or like when you would go around a 322 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 3: circle like yeah, you. 323 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 2: Play never have I ever? So that everybody like gets 324 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 2: a little fired up, and like it's like it's real weird, 325 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 2: like when you're kids. 326 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 3: And I hated never have I ever because I had 327 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 3: obviously never had I ever done anything? 328 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 2: When was the last time you made out with your 329 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 2: poster of the Jonas? 330 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 3: But brother, now that would be more willing to talk about. 331 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 3: So yeah, that's what I think of. 332 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 2: I just think it's weird. I feel bad for Susie. 333 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 2: She seems like a sweet girl and she has some 334 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 2: good friends. I'm sure she's gonna be fine. I hope. Hey, 335 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 2: next week I am going to be out on the 336 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 2: Almost Famous podcast. The reason is, as we've mentioned before, 337 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 2: Jessica and my parents and my in laws and myself 338 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 2: are going to Italy. This was a gift for sixtieth 339 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 2: birthdays for my dad's retirement. It's just gonna be a 340 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 2: really great trip for the six of us to be 341 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 2: together and go from Rome to Florence to the Amalfi Coast. Well, 342 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 2: I'm not the only Bachelor contestant spending time in Italy. 343 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 2: In fact, our headline is this Victoria Fuller vacations in 344 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 2: Italy with boyfriend Greg Grippo. Now, if you remember when 345 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 2: they first announced their relationship, they had tattoos, because yes, 346 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 2: they were spotted in Italy. Even though they were claiming 347 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 2: they weren't together in Italy, they were. They had matching tattoos. 348 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 2: But they went back and it sounds like they're just 349 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 2: getting back into the States from Italy. 350 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's almost like a year reunion. I think it's 351 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 3: like one month month off from like their last year's 352 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 3: trip to Italy. 353 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 2: Oh, that makes sense. 354 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 3: They are like obviously like one back on. Remember a 355 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 3: couple like about a month ago, people were thinking that 356 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 3: they were broken up because they hadn't posted a ton 357 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 3: of each other for about like six weeks. So now 358 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 3: they're together, we need to get them on the podcast 359 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 3: so we can like really talk about if there was 360 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 3: an off moment. Because the two of them are showing 361 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 3: their sexy selves on boats and you know, now on 362 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 3: the beach and just living up their young wives. They 363 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 3: look great and they're now home because Victoria was like, 364 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 3: you can We're not gonna this is the last post. 365 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 3: It's just like this is the last, you know, sexy post. 366 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 2: They're a very attractive couple. 367 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 3: Like, yeah they're sexy, Yeah that. 368 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 2: Both of them, you know. Yeah, Like I feel like 369 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 2: they go to Italy and they make it there looked at. Yeah, 370 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 2: they're looked at. 371 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they like probably do the things that you 372 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 3: see in like Italian posters. They probably like throw each 373 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 3: other against walls and make out and like the little alleys. 374 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure that's wild. Yeah they are there. 375 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:17,959 Speaker 3: I was like, I was going to say they had 376 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 3: that sex appeal. 377 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's never been me. I would love it. 378 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 3: I try or like we're like yeah, we don't. We're like, 379 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 3: you know, attractive people, but like, just like we don't 380 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 3: just ooze that like. 381 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 2: No, no, I mean I don't have that. Well it's 382 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 2: the sex panther. I don't have that. I don't have 383 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 2: that energy pouring from me very healthy relationship. 384 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 3: But I could. I just like wish I could. But 385 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 3: like even when I try, I'm like, this could last 386 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 3: thirty seconds before I start laughing at myself. 387 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 2: Give me, like ye, give me a twenty second like 388 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 2: Instagram clip where I could like twenty seconds pose on 389 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 2: the beach, like making a black and white photo and 390 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 2: you know, be sweating a bit. I might be able 391 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 2: to pull it off. But then right after that, like 392 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 2: I'm putting on my snorkel and. 393 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 3: Well, did you see what Catherine posted Catherine Low No, okay, 394 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 3: so she just did a really funny Instagram reel. I 395 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 3: think it got a lot of views. So it says 396 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 3: what I ordered versus like what I got. So she 397 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 3: like has a video she has herself on the computer 398 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 3: like on Amazon ordering a video that she sees of 399 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 3: Sean when he's on the Bachelor being like super ripped 400 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 3: and like in the pool and all sweaty and like 401 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 3: wet and dripping, and he looks great. Right, and then 402 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 3: she goes what came and then it's him in the 403 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 3: pool with goggles on. 404 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 2: I mean, it's true, Like I have my flippers. I'm 405 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 2: not against some flippers, some goggles. 406 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 3: Flippers are fun. I'm all about goggles. And if you 407 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 3: take me back to like middle school, high school, I 408 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 3: always wore a nose plug in the pool, like my 409 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 3: my backyard pool, because then I could like really get 410 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 3: under the water without worrying about any and going out 411 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 3: my nose. 412 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 2: Actually, there's nothing acially on the diving board. There's nothing 413 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 2: more hot than a nose plug than a high school 414 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 2: high schooler with a nose plug and goggles going on 415 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 2: the bottom of the pool. It's great, we're doing fine. 416 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 2: We made it work and we're happy and we're doing 417 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 2: all right. 418 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 3: Uh all right, Well, I want you to give twenty 419 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 3: or thirty seconds for Instagram for all of our amusements 420 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 3: when you're in Italy and do something like this, just 421 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 3: like pretend that you're Greg and Victoria and post it 422 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 3: for us. 423 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 2: I can do that. I can do that, I can 424 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 2: pull something better. Remind you. Yeah, please just text me 425 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 2: and say, hey, Ben, don't forget to be hot. Yeah, 426 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 2: don't forget to be Hot final headline. This would have 427 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 2: made me nervous actually, because I saw a quote from 428 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 2: somebody named Higgins in here and I was like, oh, no, 429 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 2: what I do? Like, what interview did I take? That 430 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 2: went backwards fast? Well, it's not me, it's somebody I 431 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 2: don't even know but shares the same last name. But 432 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 2: this has been this headline has been coming across the 433 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 2: internet a lot here recently, and I think the conversation 434 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 2: around reality television and the treatment of the contestant it's 435 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 2: becoming more and more popular one because Bethany Frankel has 436 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 2: kind of headed up this conversation and said, hey, you know, 437 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 2: reality television needs to be unionized or there needs to 438 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 2: be better representation. The people need to be treated better 439 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 2: that come on the show. They don't know what they're 440 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 2: going to get into. All these things have been kind 441 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 2: of popping up recently. I believe we're going to be 442 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 2: following stories like this for years to come, where people 443 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 2: are really fighting for the contestants that give themselves up 444 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 2: for reality television. Well, it's never been a secret, Ashley. 445 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 2: I mean, you and I knew when we even went 446 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 2: on that The Bachelor is a really difficult situation for 447 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 2: anybody to get thrown in, especially anybody that's hurting, anybody 448 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 2: that has emotional kind of you know, damage or trauma, 449 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 2: anybody that's healing in their life. The Bachelor has always 450 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 2: kind of exposed that, and it doesn't really feel like 451 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 2: in most experiences the show helps heal people. I do 452 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 2: think there's some some healing and kind of getting it 453 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 2: out in the open and talking about it. But the 454 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 2: Bachelor contestants have consistently came off the show and said, hey, 455 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 2: this show wrecked me, this show hurt. 456 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 3: Me, okay, but not like not us. So I think 457 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 3: there's like there's different groups, there's different experiences. For sure, 458 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 3: there's people like us that are so grateful for it. 459 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 3: It got us either like for me out of my 460 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 3: comfort zone and literally like embraced my whole personality, and 461 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 3: then like just look at the journey that you've been on, 462 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 3: Like for us, it was one for the best, and 463 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 3: then their cast that it's the total opposite experience. Well, 464 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 3: I mean we were actually sharing this story. I was 465 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 3: with Heather, you know, Ma and then McKenna this weekend 466 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 3: at this wedding, and we were also at a table 467 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 3: with a Love Is Blind contestant and some Big Brother contestants. 468 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 3: So it's like the reality TV table and it was 469 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 3: fun exchanging stories. But it's really amazing to see the 470 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 3: range of experiences one can have. 471 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 2: I agree. I mean, you know, and I think I 472 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 2: speak to this, and I think of Olivia Creedy, who 473 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 2: was on me too the season of The Bachelor I 474 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,719 Speaker 2: was able to be a part of, and it felt 475 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 2: like a tremendous person had a really hard experience, and 476 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 2: I did not have that type of experience. My experience 477 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 2: was I've always said I've gotten through this thing unscathed, 478 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 2: and for whatever reason, that's my story. And I'm a 479 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 2: fan of the show and I'm a supporter of the show, 480 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 2: and I would tell anybody still to go on the 481 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 2: show because of my experience. But I do think of 482 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 2: the Olivia's of the world and go, yeah, this hurt her. 483 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 2: I heard her deeply, and I don't know how how 484 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 2: well the healing process began. Well, anyways, here's the headline, 485 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 2: and it's an interesting one. Bachelor producers admit to tormenting 486 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 2: contestants to make for dramatic television. The quote here is 487 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 2: you better cry now. Ashley walk us through the story. 488 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 2: There are previous Bachelor producers who are quoted here. 489 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 3: We don't know them. 490 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 2: We don't know them. They were they were gone before 491 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 2: we got there. But it is a big headline. 492 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay. So there's this show it to docuseries on 493 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 3: Vice TV. It's called the Dark Side of the two 494 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 3: thousands and it goes through you know, different things of 495 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 3: the two thousands and you know, that was really the 496 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 3: birth time of reality TV. And they have this guy 497 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 3: named Michael Carroll, a former Bachelor producer that it gave. 498 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 3: You know, he sat down and talked about it, so 499 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 3: I'll read the quotes. He's a like in meetings when 500 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 3: they were coming up with the cast, they were like, 501 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 3: we need a bimbo, we need a hoe, we need 502 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 3: a ditsy girl that everyone can make fun of. They 503 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 3: would learn about their contestants backstories and wield them like 504 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 3: a weapon. She just went through a breakup, she just 505 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 3: got over anorexia. She has been a bridesmaid fifteen times, 506 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 3: but never a bride. She's gonna someone day one. She's 507 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 3: a virgin and she's never gonna She's never gonna. That's reality. 508 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 3: That's what they want to know. What's gonna happen in 509 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 3: that house before you know they were getting there. And 510 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 3: then they said that they would bring up topics that 511 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,199 Speaker 3: would really make people emotional because they know they know 512 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 3: the backstory, so they bring up the stories like this 513 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 3: one girl their dad left them when they're eight years old, 514 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 3: or they were left at the altar, and that's how 515 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 3: it's gonna be. If you want to be on The Bachelor, 516 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 3: you're gonna know these things and they're gonna be brought 517 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 3: up in the interview room and then they'd be like 518 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 3: he also said something about the like contestant, why didn't 519 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 3: cry enough? They would be booted off the show, or 520 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 3: like the long awaited tears, like someone's gonna cry right now, 521 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 3: and if you don't cry enough, we're gonna find a 522 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 3: way to get you out and we're gonna make you 523 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 3: cry when you leave because you didn't get the Bachelor, 524 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 3: so you better cry now, Like, Okay, you know this 525 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 3: is nothing surprising to us. 526 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 2: There's nothing surprising here. I do think the first part 527 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 2: of this is more damning. Well, it's just something I 528 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 2: never know, but it's something I didn't know the behind 529 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 2: the scenes of right, you and I have talked about 530 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 2: how much of the behind the scenes we feel like 531 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 2: we know and that we do know based on our 532 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 2: time on the show and knowing some of the producers 533 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 2: post their time on the show. I didn't. I didn't 534 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 2: know that when they went through the casting process there 535 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 2: was a defining role that each person played. I knew 536 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 2: they knew who who the people were. I know they 537 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 2: did like a psychological exam. I know they know this stuff, 538 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 2: they know us well, but I didn't know they were 539 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 2: actually looking for these types of people. I guess I 540 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 2: would be oblivious at times to that. It just it's 541 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 2: not it's not okay that they say, hey, we need 542 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 2: we're gonna have this person, and this is what the 543 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 2: person's gonna end up doing on Night one. If they don't, 544 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 2: I don't know what kind of role they play here anymore, 545 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 2: and so we'll probably convince the lead to get rid 546 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 2: of them early because they're not really, you know, carrying 547 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 2: the weight of the role that we wanted them to. 548 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 2: I don't love that. Yeah, I don't like it at 549 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 2: all exactly. 550 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like that either. I don't think of 551 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 3: it like that, but I do think them stereotyping, like 552 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 3: you know, undermine. Mine was definitely like dateless Virgin. You 553 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 3: know that's like super over the top. And then there's 554 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 3: like you were definitely like Golden Boy. You know that 555 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 3: they were like Golden Boy, like we're not going to 556 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 3: touch it. We just want him to look. 557 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 2: Great, which is probably why my experience was and you know, 558 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 2: the the benefits of that was my experience was pretty 559 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 2: okay because it was you know, I didn't have any 560 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 2: storyline of trying to mess with me. I just I see, 561 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 2: you know, I obviously I've lived that experience. I've seen 562 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 2: my friends who I know were struggling at the time 563 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 2: go through this process, and I don't know what their 564 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 2: stories would be. Now. You know a lot of these 565 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 2: people have kind of disappeared after the show, and so 566 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 2: I don't know what they think of when they think 567 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 2: of the show. 568 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 3: I think that if you don't really like this is 569 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 3: kind of sad to say, but if you don't really 570 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 3: remember them, they probably didn't have a title that was strong, 571 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 3: and the Bridges probably didn't imagine them being around that long. Yeah, 572 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,479 Speaker 3: they were like kind of the fillers. Yeah, So like, 573 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 3: what would you say that somebody who was well known 574 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 3: like Wells, Yeah, what would you say that they thought 575 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 3: of him going in. 576 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 2: I think they knew he was going to be a 577 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 2: good narrator, Like he was going to be a really 578 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 2: good contestant to have because he was a comedic, he 579 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 2: what he would play along. He understood the entertainment world, 580 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 2: so he could almost produce himself, and they knew he 581 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 2: could narrate situations and make it entertaining for the audience, 582 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 2: which I think is a fine role to stereotype somebody 583 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 2: as is this person's gonna be a really good storyteller 584 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 2: and I know, wells is that? 585 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:18,719 Speaker 3: What do you think that Jared was. 586 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 2: I think Jared was a golden I think Jared was, hey. 587 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 3: This is a alternative golden boy. 588 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and I think Jared had a lot more. 589 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 2: I think Jared was a nerd in a lot of ways. Right. 590 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 2: He was the comic book movie fan who you know, 591 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 2: spoke in movie quotes and wore a Superman shirt on night. 592 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 3: One Man was definitely in like his audition tape. 593 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, so he kind of was that lovable every you know, 594 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 2: a guy that you would know who's incredibly good looking. 595 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 2: And then obviously there was a date specifically planned for 596 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 2: Jared because he came in with the long kind of 597 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 2: like almost bowl cut, shaggy hair, and then they give 598 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 2: him this like, yeah, they they give him kind of 599 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 2: the glow up date where he gets a makeover and 600 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 2: they put him in a suit, and then all of 601 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 2: a sudden, everybody sees Jared differently than they did before. 602 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 2: And I think that was it too, because he was relatable, 603 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 2: he was kind, he was nice, he was likable. Uh, 604 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 2: and then obviously you give him a makeover and you're like, goodness, gracious, 605 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 2: this dude like a lot more attractive than I ever 606 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 2: seen him before, and he stayed that way obviously, So 607 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 2: I think that was Jared's You know, there was obviously 608 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 2: people on that season at the Bachelorette, like the jj 609 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 2: Lings and the Clinton Artist. Is that they they played 610 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 2: they played into a lot more they you know, I 611 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 2: don't know what their stereotype was, but they definitely capitalized 612 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 2: and used them at the beginning of the show for 613 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 2: character development more than anybody else mm hm. 614 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 3: And now I will admit that I definitely want to know, 615 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 3: like basically I just knew. I was, like, I know 616 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 3: that the characterizes people. I know, these of me stick 617 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 3: out versus other people in the bunch, so like I 618 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 3: kind of was like, I wouldn't all lean into it. 619 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that might be the suggestion. Typically when 620 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 2: somebody asked me, you know, they're going through the casting 621 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 2: process or they're going to become the lead and they 622 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 2: reach out, uh to chat and that hasn't happened in 623 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 2: years to me. I haven't spoken to a Bachelor since 624 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 2: Matt James before their show, but I think I would 625 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 2: tell them do a deep dive on yourself real quick, 626 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 2: understand what that you like, kind of think through like 627 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 2: who are you going to be on this show and 628 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 2: understand if that's somebody you want to be displayed as 629 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 2: or not. And if you don't, then they'll go on 630 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 2: the show. If you do. If you're like no, I'm 631 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 2: comfortable with this kind of stereotype and I'm comfortable being 632 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 2: the jock, or I'm comfortable being the one that stands 633 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 2: up for the right reasons every time, or you know whatever, 634 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 2: then go on it. Like be confident in that, but 635 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 2: if not, then don't do it. 636 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 3: Be self aware and find humor in yourself as well. 637 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, it's people to take themselves too seriously. Now, 638 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 2: I don't think I mean obviously from this last season. 639 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 2: If we look at Charity season, I think Braden would 640 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 2: be the villain quote unquote, right, the villain from this season, 641 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 2: the one that has the the most you know, controversial 642 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 2: storylines or the one that people disliked. I don't think 643 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 2: the show is going to ruin his life. I do think. 644 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 2: I do think. Yeah, in the past couple of seasons, 645 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 2: there aren't people that stand out that it's like, hey, 646 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 2: this is gonna like wreck you, And that might be that. 647 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 2: I think we could probably point to the show changing 648 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 2: and how they handle their contestants so that they're not 649 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 2: coming off and being like, yeah, I'm I'm a mess. 650 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 3: Oh. I think they also kind of allow paradise to 651 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 3: be the redemption stories that people with that feeling about them. 652 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 3: M hm. 653 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's a story that's going to be playing out. 654 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 2: Producers are speaking out. I think as producers get older, 655 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 2: they have some years removed from these shows. And I'm 656 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 2: not just talking The Bachelor here, these reality Tilvin shows 657 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 2: they have messes around all of them. Right. The drama 658 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 2: of these shows are created by humans, and those humans 659 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 2: are gonna have to carry the weight of that. And 660 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 2: so I do think this is a conversation that will 661 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 2: be coming up more and more as these producers get older. 662 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 2: We're now, you know, twenty years removed from the start 663 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 2: of really reality television. Some of these producers have moved 664 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 2: on to other jobs they feel more comfortable speaking out, So, 665 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 2: you know, we'll see how it plays out. My hope 666 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 2: is that these shows get healthier and that we have 667 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 2: more seasons like Charities. Yes, we might not remember the 668 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 2: villain from the season. That's fine with me, as long 669 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 2: as the love story exists at the end. That's what 670 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 2: I'm looking for in Paradise. That's what I'm looking for 671 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 2: in The Golden Bachelor. At least, that's my hope the 672 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 2: Golden Bachelor, definitely the Golden Bachelor. Bachelor headline is this, 673 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 2: Amanda Stanton is having a baby girl. She posted this 674 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 2: on Instagram. 675 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 3: She did. She kept talking about it and teasing it 676 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 3: with us last week and she posted the pictures of 677 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 3: the girls, her girls and her husband popping the balloon 678 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 3: and in came pink confetti, Let's. 679 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 2: Go Bachelor in Paradise and lum Lace Morris is pregnant 680 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 2: with her first child. This is hot off the press. 681 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 3: We know nothing about this. She just posted on Instagram 682 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 3: said that she's having a surprise baby, a glorious surprise. 683 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 3: And we don't know who the boyfriend or the dad is. 684 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 3: We do know, we do well, we do know him 685 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 3: based on Instagram, but we don't like have any photos 686 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 3: of the two of them together on her Instagram. Yeah, 687 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 3: and he's private. I tried, ye, maybe in Denver, you 688 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 3: would have had like some more common things. You should 689 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 3: get on Facebook. You can probably see him on Facebook. 690 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 3: So yeah, we'll find out. We're gonna get lace on 691 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 3: the podcast because I need to know how this is 692 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:49,919 Speaker 3: going down. 693 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 2: You need to know how it happened. 694 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 3: I need to know. 695 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 2: I'll tell you after the podcast. You know how you 696 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 2: get pregnant? Yes, I have a good Oh. 697 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 3: I thought you texted her and was like, so, who's 698 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 3: the guy? 699 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,320 Speaker 2: Oh No, I don't know much about that. The Bachelor, 700 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,280 Speaker 2: Hannah Brown is engaged to Adam Willard. 701 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 3: This is a big, big one. 702 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 2: The big ones. 703 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 1: Yeah. 704 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 2: They posted some photos from this very romantic proposal. 705 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 3: People has the exclusive on this. They got engaged on 706 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 3: August twenty fourth, but announced it today aka Monday the 707 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 3: twenty eighth. It happened at Bolt Farm treehouse in Whitwell, Tennessee. 708 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 2: Here I got to add in here you want to 709 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 2: know some crazy you were there that day? No, Jessica 710 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,720 Speaker 2: and Hannah Brown went on a trip together to Bolt 711 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 2: Farm like five months ago. 712 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that's so crazy. 713 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, huh so. 714 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 3: Yeah. She just thought they were going to go hang 715 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,280 Speaker 3: out with friends. Little did she know that her parents, 716 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,320 Speaker 3: her family was actually staying on property and they surprised 717 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 3: them after he got down on one knee in a 718 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 3: very intimate moment which was surrounded by flowers and rose 719 00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 3: petals and candles and then a little deets. Oh my god, 720 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 3: I said, deet skin on the ring. It's from Ring 721 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 3: Concierge and it has three rings to represent the present, 722 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:12,760 Speaker 3: the future, in the past. And she says the center 723 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 3: one is the biggest, which is the one that represents 724 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 3: the present. She says, that's always my favorite part of 725 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,720 Speaker 3: our relationship. That's really really sweet. And another sweet quote 726 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 3: that I love that she said about him is I 727 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 3: love his calming presence and big heart and how he 728 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 3: accepts and loves all versions of me, even the crazy version. 729 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 2: Don't we all have it, Ashley. We do have a 730 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 2: big week. We have some great interviews coming up, some 731 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 2: really exciting times for the Almost Famous podcast as we 732 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 2: do I'm not even gonna say fill in this offseason. 733 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 2: As we walk through this offseason leading up to then 734 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 2: the airing of Bachelor and Paradise in the Golden Bachelor, 735 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 2: and then fairly soon after that we'll be jumping right 736 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 2: into the next Bachelor with Joey. But this is all 737 00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 2: we got for today, and this is all the headlines. 738 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,720 Speaker 2: So until next time, I've been Ben, have been Ashley. 739 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 3: See you guys. 740 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 1: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcasts on 741 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.