Speaker 1: Frugal ways to stretch everyday products with hopeware.
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Speaker 1: Mmmmm, Welcome to Frugal Friends podcast. My name is Jen,
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Speaker 1: kind of frugal living nerd out episodes, but this one
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Speaker 3: We normally don't like to indulge.
Speaker 1: It's, you know, it's the cutting the toothpaste too of
Speaker 1: the back and squeezing it at the end sort of thing.
Speaker 1: But so we actually didn't mention that at all in
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Speaker 1: helpful hacks to reframe our mindset around this traditional idea
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Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's not a race to the bottom. We
Speaker 3: don't ever want to lean into that level of extremism.
Speaker 3: But also to recognize that when we learn to stretch
Speaker 3: our products, it also connects us to our level of consumption,
Speaker 3: which we are here for understanding how much am I consuming,
Speaker 3: what am I throwing away? And where can I be
Speaker 3: more mindful? And Hope is here to help us with that.
Speaker 1: So without further ado, Hope she is the host of
Speaker 1: under the Median and she teaches busy people practical frugality
Speaker 1: skills so they can learn to budget, hey our debt
Speaker 1: and live the life they really want. They raised four
Speaker 1: sons debt free, including purchasing their hurrent home with cash
Speaker 1: when their income was about forty thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 1: So let's get into our chat with Hope.
Speaker 3: Let's do it.
Speaker 1: Hope, welcome back to the Frugal Friends podcast. We are
Speaker 1: so delighted to have you back.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 4: I'm so excited to be here.
Speaker 3: This is an exciting topic to talk about. I think
Speaker 3: that this is probably a classically frugal episode title, and
Speaker 3: we're here for it because we think that you're going
Speaker 3: to give us some fresh takes and some new things
Speaker 3: to just consider. So let's get into it. Let's talk
Speaker 3: about household products. How can people make everyday household products
Speaker 3: just last longer? What's the overview? I also want to
Speaker 3: know your favorite ones too.
Speaker 5: Okay, so we'll get into that. But the first thing
Speaker 5: that people need to figure out is how long stuff
Speaker 5: is lasting them, because we get in to this buy, use,
Speaker 5: replaced cycle and we just do that over and over again, right,
Speaker 5: never stopping to think, she am I buying this a
Speaker 5: little more often than I actually have to. This happened
Speaker 5: to us. We are huge fans of real maple syrup.
Speaker 5: We want the real stuff on our pancakes.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying.
Speaker 3: Same.
Speaker 5: And so we realized after a while, it's like, every
Speaker 5: time we go to SAMs, we're like, we out of
Speaker 5: maple syrup, and the answer is seemed to always be, yeah,
Speaker 5: we need more. And I was like, I think we
Speaker 5: need to figure out how long this bottle of maple
Speaker 5: syrup is lasting us. So we got into the simple
Speaker 5: habit of writing with black marker when we opened it.
Speaker 5: We'd put the date on the container, and we realized
Speaker 5: that thirty two ounces of maple syrup was lasting us
Speaker 5: thirty days, and we were like, that seems like a
Speaker 5: little a lot. We should figure out how we can
Speaker 5: buy this product, still use it, but make it last longer.
Speaker 5: And that, honestly, that event was how we got onto
Speaker 5: this whole cycle of how can we make this last longer?
Speaker 5: So figure out how long it's lasting you in the
Speaker 5: first place.
Speaker 3: On that note, my mother in law, she is like
Speaker 3: an honorary special guest. She comes up quite a bit
Speaker 3: because she is specifically about maple syrup. So for years,
Speaker 3: maybe even decades, she will take maple syrup and put
Speaker 3: it into smaller bottles so like the bottles from cracker
Speaker 3: barrel that they'll serve you with your breakfast, and fill
Speaker 3: up those tinier bottles and serve those individually to people
Speaker 3: because she makes breakfast and just food in general for
Speaker 3: a lot of people, realizing that a lot of the
Speaker 3: waste that was happening with expensive maple syrup was just
Speaker 3: people pouring too much onto their plates and then you
Speaker 3: can't put it back into the bottle once it's on
Speaker 3: the plate, So giving people just smaller portion so that
Speaker 3: they were more aware. Rather than a big bottle, people
Speaker 3: are just dumping it and then you're not even eating
Speaker 3: at all. So I don't know if that was the
Speaker 3: case for you all, but right, yeah, So with a
Speaker 3: tinier bottle, then you can be more aware of how
Speaker 3: much you're using. And she says that that exponentially changed
Speaker 3: how much syrup they were using. They were still getting enough,
Speaker 3: getting what they wanted, it just wasn't all over their
Speaker 3: plates and then in the trash can eventually.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and the other thing you can do, which is
Speaker 5: one of the things that we did, You just take
Speaker 5: a serving spoon, which is it's a tablespoon and it's
Speaker 5: not really it's more than a tablespoon. We all know that, right,
Speaker 5: And you pour your maple syrup into there first, because
Speaker 5: then it's on the spoon and it hasn't touched anything.
Speaker 5: You drizzle that over your pancakes, and you'll figure out
Speaker 5: quickly whether you're using more or less than that, because
Speaker 5: if it's less, if it's on the spoon, you can
Speaker 5: just put it back in the bottle because it hasn't
Speaker 5: touched anything. Right, So serve, and that's one of the
Speaker 5: things that we tell people all the time. Serve only
Speaker 5: what you expect your guests to eat or what you
Speaker 5: expect your family to eat, eat. This is more like
Speaker 5: family time right where you're you're serving them instead of
Speaker 5: serving them the whole chicken. You're taking meat off the chicken,
Speaker 5: putting that meat on the table that you expect your
Speaker 5: family to eat. Because you put that whole chicken, I
Speaker 5: raise four boys, It's gonna be gone.
Speaker 4: It will be cleaned down to the bone. There would
Speaker 4: be nothing left.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you get hood and put your leftovers away
Speaker 1: if you're if you've made four portions, put two portions
Speaker 1: in your to go containers before.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is And people.
Speaker 1: Think it's so this is like when you're thinking about
Speaker 1: in terms of money, you're like, oh, but this is
Speaker 1: like pennies and dimes, But like if you think of
Speaker 1: it in terms of health, like your pennies and dimes,
Speaker 1: and you're like, calories, I'm not into like restricting calories
Speaker 1: or counting calories for the sake of doing it, but
Speaker 1: like it adds up. Yeah, and they don't get feeling
Speaker 1: ill when you eat too much afterwards, right, and we
Speaker 1: can avoid that by just knowing what we're.
Speaker 3: Putting in our bodies. You're just so much more awareness.
Speaker 3: I love what you're describing. Just know how much you're
Speaker 3: consuming first. So then once we do know, okay, I
Speaker 3: here's how long this product is lasting me, but I
Speaker 3: want to make it last longer. What are some things
Speaker 3: we can be considering for that.
Speaker 5: Okay, So, of course you can serve it less often,
Speaker 5: you can serve less of it. But here's a really
Speaker 5: interesting idea morph that product into something else. So let's
Speaker 5: just say you know that those cheesy rice side dishes
Speaker 5: you can buy. Let's just say you get some of
Speaker 5: those cheesy rice dishes and they are on sale. You
Speaker 5: get a banging good deal on them. You open that
Speaker 5: rice dish and you look at the number of servings
Speaker 5: on the back, and your first words are like, you
Speaker 5: gotta be kidding me, Like, you're going to eat more
Speaker 5: than that?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 5: Their serving size is like, no, no human being unless
Speaker 5: the five is going to eat that amount of that.
Speaker 3: Cheese tablespoons of rice.
Speaker 5: I'm like, really for real, I don't think so. So
Speaker 5: what we started doing is figuring out how can we
Speaker 5: morph that side dish into something that is more of
Speaker 5: a main dish. So you add more rice, you add vegetables,
Speaker 5: you add some protein, you add some.
Speaker 4: Things to that.
Speaker 5: You use that as the base instead of the actual dish.
Speaker 5: You add things, do it to make it into a
Speaker 5: main dish. You can also add this works really well.
Speaker 5: You can add broth, vegetables, things like that, and you're
Speaker 5: gonna make it into a cheesy rice soup instead of
Speaker 5: a side dish.
Speaker 1: Yes, because then you really only do need two tablespoons
Speaker 1: of rice.
Speaker 4: That's the only way that you need.
Speaker 1: Only way you do this, Jill with like our Hello
Speaker 1: Fresh deliveries that we get at stretching.
Speaker 3: Those, Oh, I sure do. Yeah, whether it's adding in
Speaker 3: more of the protein or more of the vegetable. Everything
Speaker 3: you're saying, whether it's the start, the start, the veggie,
Speaker 3: the protein, just add a little bit more, make a
Speaker 3: little bit more, freeze half. Yeah. I love the I
Speaker 3: love the food focus that we're taking at the beginning
Speaker 3: of this too. Yeah, we all need the tips.
Speaker 5: Let's go to like like something that's not edible, all right, Yeah,
Speaker 5: let's morph soft soap into foaming soap. Get a foaming
Speaker 5: soap dispenser. Ask one of your friends who's gonna throw
Speaker 5: it out in the garbage to save it for you. Right,
Speaker 5: you don't even have to buy one, So you got
Speaker 5: your dispenser. You're gonna go find the least expensive huge
Speaker 5: the refillable bottles, the refills of some sort of soft
Speaker 5: soap product. Fill the bottom of that foaming soap container
Speaker 5: one fourth of the way full of the soft soap.
Speaker 5: Three quarters is water. No, we mix it up a
Speaker 5: little bit.
Speaker 4: That's what the soft soap is. But here's something else
Speaker 4: I just found out, and this is very cool.
Speaker 5: You can use you know, the shower gels you can
Speaker 5: get well, they have like thickening agents in there that
Speaker 5: it's like soft soap, only they've got a thickener in there.
Speaker 5: You can use that shower gel instead of soft soap,
Speaker 5: and you can do maybe two or three tablespoons in
Speaker 5: the bottom of that foaming soap container. And you need
Speaker 5: to use really hot water instead of top water because
Speaker 5: it breaks up that emulsifier or whatever it is that
Speaker 5: makes the gel stuff gel and it will disperse into
Speaker 5: the water and it will make soft soap foaming dispensor,
Speaker 5: you know, this foaming soap out of your shower gel.
Speaker 4: So when you find those things, like on a really
Speaker 4: good deal, you can get it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Again, what I'm liking about these tips, similar to
Speaker 3: what you said Jen about the food pieces, is not
Speaker 3: only can it help us a little bit with our wallets,
Speaker 3: but it can also help us nutritionally. Same thing here.
Speaker 3: Not only can it help a little bit with how
Speaker 3: much we're spending month over month on these types of products,
Speaker 3: but it also helps the environment to not be purchasing
Speaker 3: as much plastic, to be able to buy that soap
Speaker 3: in bulk and have that big soap dispenser, that sh
Speaker 3: shower gel be able to last us potentially months and
Speaker 3: months if we are cutting it with water the way
Speaker 3: that you're saying, and using a foam dispenser. So there
Speaker 3: can be multiple reasons that people come to wanting to
Speaker 3: make the stuff that they have last longer when it
Speaker 3: comes to kind of over consumption and waste, how much
Speaker 3: we're throwing out, how much plastics we're using. So yeah,
Speaker 3: that's a really helpful one.
Speaker 4: But speaking of the environment, here's something. Dryer sheets. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't know them, don't even use them.
Speaker 5: Instead, when you take your laundry out of the washer,
Speaker 5: put it in the dryer. Throw in a clean dry towel.
Speaker 5: If you want it to smell good, put a few
Speaker 5: drops of essential oil on that towel. Put it in,
Speaker 5: and your your clothes will dry thirty to forty five
Speaker 5: minutes earlier. About thirty minutes is what we found thirty
Speaker 5: minutes before. They because that dry towel works like a
Speaker 5: like almost like a dry sponge wood. It like wicks
Speaker 5: up that water, and in doing that it helps cut
Speaker 5: down on the static clean.
Speaker 3: It is shocking. I don't do this as often as
Speaker 3: I should, but I'm glad you're reminding me of this
Speaker 3: because there have been times when I'm washing like bedding
Speaker 3: or towels, things that kind of take a long time
Speaker 3: to dry. I've thrown in a hand towel, a dry
Speaker 3: hand towel, and it seems to go so much faster
Speaker 3: that I have ever such a good hurt.
Speaker 1: I use like the wool balls yea, which like I guess,
Speaker 1: help but you but do you think, like are you
Speaker 1: saying full sized towel hand howel better than woolballs?
Speaker 5: I handtell, but I have the wool balls because a
Speaker 5: friend of mine who like raises her own sheep, she
Speaker 5: with her own sheep balls.
Speaker 4: She made me woolballs.
Speaker 3: Very coop, I know that awesome. Well there you go.
Speaker 4: It was a great gift that was like so excited.
Speaker 3: I'm definitely just.
Speaker 4: I do you know what?
Speaker 5: I dry out on the line as much as I can,
Speaker 5: though I have to say my dryer lives a very
Speaker 5: lonely life for the most part. But there are times
Speaker 5: you just need a dryer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: So on the topic of laundry, using laundry detergent has
Speaker 1: always been something that I think I might use too
Speaker 1: much because I think I might overfill my washer. I
Speaker 1: would love to get your perspective. I hate I don't
Speaker 1: want to ever underfill it because I don't want to
Speaker 1: like waste money or time. But then I think I
Speaker 1: might be kind of like doing myself a disservice. What
Speaker 1: is your research show? Because I know you've done it.
Speaker 4: I do.
Speaker 5: This is such a fun topic because people do use
Speaker 5: way too much. If you were and that's one of
Speaker 5: the things I tell people. You want to make it
Speaker 5: last longer, look at what the manufacturer says and use
Speaker 5: less because because because look, let's just face it, they're
Speaker 5: not philanthropical people. They are there to make money. They
Speaker 5: want to serve, they want to sell you more to Jergent.
Speaker 5: But here is this is the acid test.
Speaker 4: Are you ready? Try this and you will believe me?
Speaker 5: You know, those little pods that we all love because
Speaker 5: they're so convenient. Like screwed, I don't even have to
Speaker 5: like measure this deturgent. I'm just gonna throw one of
Speaker 5: these pods and I'm done. Yes, break open one of
Speaker 5: those pods. Look at how much detergent is actually in
Speaker 5: one of those pods. It is not it's about a tablespoon.
Speaker 5: Maybe you don't need any more than a tablespoon. Maybe
Speaker 5: two tables spoons if you've got a great big heap
Speaker 5: and load of laundry in there, but don't use any
Speaker 5: more than that. And keep a measuring spoon, a real
Speaker 5: measuring spoon, not like a serving spoon, because that's more
Speaker 5: than a tablespoon.
Speaker 4: Keep a measuring spoon. Measure it out because so you'll
Speaker 4: know you're using the right amount.
Speaker 1: And how much do you fill your washer? Would you
Speaker 1: say it's better to do like a quote unquote more
Speaker 1: than what they recommend phil to like use less water,
Speaker 1: or do you really do a half fill and do
Speaker 1: two loads?
Speaker 4: I do three quarters of a fill.
Speaker 3: Okay, I feel it.
Speaker 5: It's more than halfway, definitely, but I will say that
Speaker 5: then we're kind of split the difference people, So we
Speaker 5: do the research and think we're going to do this
Speaker 5: and see how it works. So we do three quarter
Speaker 5: fill with clothing and then the small amount of detergent,
Speaker 5: and then our washer lets us do like a like
Speaker 5: a water cycle that has a little bit more water
Speaker 5: in it to make sure that everything gets clean.
Speaker 1: Is that a towel cycle, because I've heard the towel
Speaker 1: Oh the tel cycle?
Speaker 4: Does it gets on her deep water cycle or something
Speaker 4: like that?
Speaker 3: Okay, good to know. Yeah, yeah, you definitely don't want
Speaker 3: to overfill a washing machine because that is going to
Speaker 3: cost you far more in the long run if you
Speaker 3: like make it go off kilter and.
Speaker 1: Like they really struggle, like you're stuffing it in shore.
Speaker 1: But I'm definitely going like I'm going three quarters of
Speaker 1: the way. Like yeah, I talk to like Tide and
Speaker 1: the ge people like at conferences and they're like halfway
Speaker 1: all the this much detergent and I'm like part of
Speaker 1: me just like I don't have time, Like if I
Speaker 1: do two loads at three quarters the way, I get
Speaker 1: to eliminate one load. Yeah, from my you know weekend,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I agree, But I will say, don't you
Speaker 5: feel like it makes a difference, the difference between half
Speaker 5: and three, like what you're.
Speaker 4: Putting in there, like towels.
Speaker 5: Towels are really dunce, They're really heavy, and I'm thinking
Speaker 5: that's hard for that poor little washer to like move
Speaker 5: all those towels around. So if I were going to
Speaker 5: err on the side of caution, I'd go with a
Speaker 5: half a load of towels rather than a half a
Speaker 5: load of like I don't know, like fluffy things like
Speaker 5: undergarments and things like. I feel like that can be
Speaker 5: three quarters of a load.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm glad that we've scientifically decided this. You in So,
Speaker 1: this episode is kind of inspired by a video you
Speaker 1: did on stretching household problem products and you talk about
Speaker 1: you get a big thing at castile soap Doctor Browner's.
Speaker 1: We love Doctor Browner's casteel soap, and you said some
Speaker 1: diy things that you do with it, and you stretch
Speaker 1: it into different types of products. I think that's a
Speaker 1: really good Like using one product and making it into
Speaker 1: different types of products is also a way to stings.
Speaker 1: Can you tell us your favorite ways that you use
Speaker 1: that castile soap?
Speaker 5: So Castile soap can be used for like you can
Speaker 5: do dishes with it doesn't take very much bike away
Speaker 5: casteel soap to do dishes. You can do laundry with it.
Speaker 5: You can make I've used the castile soap to make
Speaker 5: the soft soap with the foaming thing. I've used it
Speaker 5: for that. And if you want it to smell good,
Speaker 5: because I get the base like just basic, like there's
Speaker 5: no sun in my castile soap, you can just put
Speaker 5: a few drops of essential oil in there and make
Speaker 5: your your foaming soap with it. That is actually something
Speaker 5: that we work pretty hard at is figuring out what
Speaker 5: are the basic products that we need to use that
Speaker 5: we can morph into a whole bunch of different uses.
Speaker 5: And those are the products that you want to take
Speaker 5: a look at.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can appreciate how sometimes when we are aware
Speaker 3: of our consumption and how to make products stretch, that
Speaker 3: it can then lead into diy in your own stuff
Speaker 3: when you start to realize, oh, man, I've got a
Speaker 3: product for cleaning my floors and for doing the laundry,
Speaker 3: and for washing my hands and for washing my body
Speaker 3: and for washing the dishes. And it's like, I wonder
Speaker 3: if I were to understand the ingredients of these things
Speaker 3: and how much crossover could there be here and turns
Speaker 3: out a ton For me, it's baking soda. So I
Speaker 3: will make my own dish washing detergent, laundry detergent, and
Speaker 3: so baking soda is a common ingredient in both of
Speaker 3: those things, but also a deodorizer. So I every couple
Speaker 3: of months will sprinkle baking soda on my bed, like
Speaker 3: on the mattress, let it sit there for a while,
Speaker 3: and then vacuum it up. It's kind of a way
Speaker 3: of like deep cleaning your mattress or upholstery, getting out
Speaker 3: odors from different places. There are times I've needed it
Speaker 3: in the car. I think somebody had spilt coffee, and
Speaker 3: so that was the thing we first put into the car.
Speaker 3: Are before we were kind of like, yeah, dealing with
Speaker 3: the stain. But to your point, there are things that
Speaker 3: we can do that even that's kind of the next step,
Speaker 3: but learning to stretch the products, but then also learning
Speaker 3: what are the components of the product itself, and is
Speaker 3: there a way that I can just get that ingredient
Speaker 3: and stretch that ingredient in all these different ways.
Speaker 5: And that's one of the things that I hear from people.
Speaker 5: It's like, well, I want to use natural ingredients. I
Speaker 5: don't want to use these products that have all of
Speaker 5: these additives in it. But I feel like that those
Speaker 5: products are more expensive, and I think you're right. So
Speaker 5: you look at basic ingredients like a vinegar, like baking soda,
Speaker 5: and you figure out how can I use those in
Speaker 5: such a way that still gets things clean or still
Speaker 5: does what I need it to do. Like if you
Speaker 5: know how when your drain start to smell kind of
Speaker 5: yucky like your kitchen drains, you put baking soda in
Speaker 5: there and then you follow it up with vinegar, you know,
Speaker 5: and you get that lovely like foaming reaction and it
Speaker 5: goes down your drain and it deodorizes your drain.
Speaker 4: You do that about once a month.
Speaker 5: It's very cost effect and very inexpensive to do, and
Speaker 5: it keeps your drains running a little more freely and
Speaker 5: they smell they smell better, right, yes, And so you
Speaker 5: figure out how to do those things with basic products.
Speaker 5: So I don't think, you know, And I so I
Speaker 5: love the idea of doing things that are green in nature,
Speaker 5: I really do. But it's like a double wind when
Speaker 5: you could do things that are green in nature and
Speaker 5: they also keep some green in your back pocket where
Speaker 5: you're saving and saving the planet at the same time.
Speaker 4: Right, it's a double bed.
Speaker 3: We love it when they go hand in hand. So,
Speaker 3: speaking of tracking how much you're using, how might somebody
Speaker 3: know if their consumption is maybe a little too much? Like,
Speaker 3: how do we even determine the metric for how long
Speaker 3: my laundry detergent should last me, or how long my
Speaker 3: cleaning product or hand soap should last me? How would
Speaker 3: they know?
Speaker 5: Okay, one of the things to do is to make
Speaker 5: sure that you're using it in a way that is
Speaker 5: consistent with saving money. Here's an example.
Speaker 4: Body wash.
Speaker 5: We all love it, right, because it just feels very
Speaker 5: It feels very much like we are indulging in a
Speaker 5: SPOS scenario because we've got body wash. I love that,
Speaker 5: but people like squeeze it directly on their body, and
Speaker 5: you shouldn't do that. You can take a loofa going
Speaker 5: once again. You get an expensive Lufa and it goes
Speaker 5: with that spawl like experience because we want that at
Speaker 5: home without paying for it. And you only need a
Speaker 5: quarter size dollup on there or your sponge or your washcloth.
Speaker 5: You're start at the top of your body work your
Speaker 5: way to the bottom and that quarter size dollup, believe
Speaker 5: it or not, is going to be enough. We underestimate
Speaker 5: what we use consistently. But when you systematize how you're
Speaker 5: using it and what you're using the amount you're using,
Speaker 5: then you can easily figure out where you're overusing or
Speaker 5: if you are.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we always just err on the side of more, right,
Speaker 1: Like it's always especially when we get older, and like
Speaker 1: nobody has really taught us how much soap to put
Speaker 1: on a loofa or if they did, it's went one
Speaker 1: time when we were five. Like, we're all just making
Speaker 1: it up. So when you don't know what to do,
Speaker 1: you just add more.
Speaker 3: Not to mention, when the pre portion sizes of a
Speaker 3: pump of hand soap or a pump of shower gel
Speaker 3: is determined for you already, then you just think, well,
Speaker 3: that's how much I need. But really, like a half
Speaker 3: pump or a quarter pump of some of these products
Speaker 3: really are enough. I know you talked about that in
Speaker 3: your video. I love for you to go say it
Speaker 3: to us, to hear about how much hand soap you
Speaker 3: actually need, how much shampoo or conditioner you actually need
Speaker 3: to kind of help us get a sense of are
Speaker 3: we utilizing too much?
Speaker 5: Right so hand soap, it's like half a tea spoon
Speaker 5: or something. It's not very much at all with hand soap.
Speaker 5: One of the things that we have done is like, especially,
Speaker 5: let's just say you have kids who are helping you
Speaker 5: do dishes, and we do dishes by hand.
Speaker 4: We've never had a dishwasher. I know, I raised four
Speaker 4: boys with no dishwasher.
Speaker 3: Congratulations, I know it.
Speaker 5: I feel like I need so much to ord a
Speaker 5: reward trophy our kids helped us with dishes. If you
Speaker 5: put your dish soap into one of those empty soft
Speaker 5: soap containers and you measure how many pumps, because you
Speaker 5: need less than a tablespoon of good soap to do
Speaker 5: a whole load of dishes, how many pumps is that?
Speaker 5: Because it's easy to put a label on the side
Speaker 5: and say, when you're doing dishes, two pumps is plenty.
Speaker 5: That's all you're going to put into whatever you're putting
Speaker 5: it onto to fill that container that you're using to
Speaker 5: put the dish dishwater in. And so something like that
Speaker 5: helps with knowing this is how much shampoo I need.
Speaker 4: The other thing is.
Speaker 5: Do you really need to wash your hair, your whole
Speaker 5: head twice. Do you need to wash your hair once
Speaker 5: with that shampoo and then maybe you just need to
Speaker 5: do the tips of your hair for the second time,
Speaker 5: or do you need to do it a second time
Speaker 5: at all. I'm all about, like, try something out. If
Speaker 5: you don't like the results, you can always go back
Speaker 5: to washing your hair again twice.
Speaker 4: You can't.
Speaker 5: But if you try it out and think, you know what,
Speaker 5: my hair still stays soft. I still can go three
Speaker 5: days without washing my hair. I'm satisfied with that. You
Speaker 5: don't need to go back to because I am so.
Speaker 5: I use expensive shampoo. I use a shampoo called Better
Speaker 5: Not Younger. It's formulated for people over the age of
Speaker 5: forty forty five. I love this stuff passionately, but it's expensive.
Speaker 5: It's thirty dollars a bottle. But on Black Friday they
Speaker 5: put it on special every sing year. The year they
Speaker 5: have fifteen dollars a bottle. I buy enough for a year,
Speaker 5: but I know, because I'm still paying fifteen dollars for
Speaker 5: a bottle shampoo, I know how many squirts of that
Speaker 5: shampoo I need to use to get it to do
Speaker 5: what I want it to do.
Speaker 4: For my hair, and I'm using their conditioner, and I'm using.
Speaker 5: It mainly on the bottom part of my hair and
Speaker 5: not the top of my hair. You got to figure
Speaker 5: out how you want to put that product on your
Speaker 5: body and what really needs it. Here's something else people
Speaker 5: don't realize. There's a really good reason that you should
Speaker 5: apply all of your moisturizers to your body right after
Speaker 5: you've taken a shower or a bath. Because your skin
Speaker 5: is the pores are open, and it's your skin is
Speaker 5: still slightly moist it will receive that moisturizer a lot
Speaker 5: more effectively than if you're doing it like right before
Speaker 5: you go to bed or something where you've taken your
Speaker 5: shower two hours before that. So right as soon as
Speaker 5: you step out of the shower, have those products in there,
Speaker 5: have them available, and apply them right out of the shower.
Speaker 5: They'll work more effectively.
Speaker 1: This is the skin fluencing that we need. Yeah, not
Speaker 1: the twenty five step shower roots, but like the tip
Speaker 1: that's like put your lotion on right after you shower. Friend,
Speaker 1: do that and it a less will go further. And
Speaker 1: I love your tip on, Like, try it, see if
Speaker 1: it works, and if it doesn't, you don't.
Speaker 3: Like.
Speaker 1: I was trying the curly girl method of not shampooing
Speaker 1: your hair for extended periods of time.
Speaker 3: What's extended, what's extended? Be real? With us? I would wash.
Speaker 3: I would wash my hair once a.
Speaker 1: Week, okay, but like, I have very thin hair, so
Speaker 1: like I couldn't get away with more than that. And honestly,
Speaker 1: after a while, I realized I couldn't get away with
Speaker 1: that either.
Speaker 3: My hair is just too thin.
Speaker 1: Fine, you're fine, Fine, Fine, it's fine. And I had
Speaker 1: to go back to washing my hair two or three
Speaker 1: times a week because I was looking at my hair
Speaker 1: every time, and I was like looking.
Speaker 3: You know, I probably interacted with you in this time
Speaker 3: and I didn't notice. You were probably okay, you were
Speaker 3: probably fine. I was probably fine.
Speaker 1: But I think what's important is that I liked it
Speaker 1: better when it was shampooed versus when it was not,
Speaker 1: So I chose to go that route more. But I
Speaker 1: did try it, and I use very expensive conditioner and shampoo.
Speaker 1: So what I have started to do now is I
Speaker 1: will shampoo the roots and condition the tips like.
Speaker 3: Half in half. I feel like, when in doubt and
Speaker 3: I wish that this rhymed, it doesn't if you'll figure
Speaker 3: it out at some point when in doubt, use a
Speaker 3: oh here we go when and out? Use a piece
Speaker 3: sized amount. Yes, true everything, Yes, start there. Just start
Speaker 3: with a peace size and then figure it out. But honestly,
Speaker 3: and I have fine hair as well, but a piece size,
Speaker 3: maybe slightly more than that, is all I need for
Speaker 3: conditioner like that stuff goes fast. When it comes to
Speaker 3: the creams that I'm putting on my face, that's all
Speaker 3: I need. And the company that I buy my skincare
Speaker 3: from is often reaching out to me relentlessly. Isn't it
Speaker 3: time to renew D No? I only have to buy
Speaker 3: my skincare stuff twice a year, and it lasts me.
Speaker 3: I'm using it every day, but I don't actually need
Speaker 3: that much. So I'm able to buy, you know, quality stuff,
Speaker 3: but purchase it less often because I know what is
Speaker 3: actually enough, and usually it's a piece sized amount.
Speaker 1: Same. I use the retinal bottle, says us, in the
Speaker 1: morning and the evening, and I'm like, I know, retinyl
Speaker 1: makes you more susceptible of the sun. No, thank you,
Speaker 1: So I just do it in the evening. HM last
Speaker 1: twice as long.
Speaker 4: It's all about being informed. Isn't it. It's like you're
Speaker 4: reading and research and researching and.
Speaker 5: Figuring out where you lie on it and issues and
Speaker 5: doing what works for you. But I want to bring
Speaker 5: up two controversial things since we're yes, we love it
Speaker 5: hot take number Number one. Controversy is that you cannot
Speaker 5: be frugal and buy quality products at the same time.
Speaker 5: So wrong, so wrong. I love my real maple syrup.
Speaker 5: I love my expensive shampoo and conditioner. I figure out
Speaker 5: how to get it at a price point that I'm
Speaker 5: willing to pay. I figure out how to stretch it
Speaker 5: to make as long and last as long as I can.
Speaker 5: And that might come down to saying, okay, so I'm
Speaker 5: going to use this instead of every time, I'm going
Speaker 5: to use it every other time. Or it might be
Speaker 5: instead of washing my hair every four days, I'm going
Speaker 5: to go every five days or every six days. So
Speaker 5: you figure out how to get what you want at
Speaker 5: the price that you're willing to pay. And that is
Speaker 5: for Gelly, it's putting money toward things that are most
Speaker 5: important to you.
Speaker 1: Yes, I buy my artificially my expensive, artificially flavored coffee.
Speaker 3: She loves to in my face. I can't stand that
Speaker 3: for you, I mean for me. I can't stand it
Speaker 3: for me. I guess it's fine for you.
Speaker 1: Love.
Speaker 3: Okay, what's your second hot take?
Speaker 5: Okay, the second controversial thing is thinning products. When you
Speaker 5: get to the end of them, what is it? I mean,
Speaker 5: because we all remember our parents pouring so much water
Speaker 5: into the ketchup bottle that they're like, put this on
Speaker 5: your hamburger.
Speaker 4: It's like it's like going all over the place. You're like, Dad,
Speaker 4: this is just not working.
Speaker 5: He's like, I just we're getting another another serving out
Speaker 5: of this ketchup bottle. And so we tend to think
Speaker 5: of thinning products as being something that's cheap and not frugal.
Speaker 5: And I would argue that there's a way to thin
Speaker 5: products to make sure that you are cutting open that package,
Speaker 5: you're getting the most out of it without it being cheap,
Speaker 5: instead of.
Speaker 3: Frugal, without winding up on some TLC special For my
Speaker 3: hand soap dispensers.
Speaker 1: Right now, I have the backups on deck, but I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm going to just put a smidge of water, use
Speaker 1: them all up, make sure it's all good again.
Speaker 3: We add to the extra It might be pennies that
Speaker 3: you save, but I do think the practice of it,
Speaker 3: the mindfulness, the intentionality, the awareness of consumption is worth it.
Speaker 3: And to pick and choose what products you're gonna do
Speaker 3: that with. I mean, we don't want to be hurting
Speaker 3: ourselves like slicing open metal containers and digging in and
Speaker 3: getting like wounds on our fingers. But for me, yeah,
Speaker 3: with the shower gel, because the pump doesn't go all
Speaker 3: the way down to the bottom, so you've usually got
Speaker 3: for me two weeks still of soap left in the bottle.
Speaker 3: That's that's two weeks. That's more than pennies. That's a
Speaker 3: couple dollars that I'm saving on that. And the hand
Speaker 3: soap and the shampoos and conditioners, laundry detergent. Absolutely, But
Speaker 3: then on some of these, I am not going to
Speaker 3: add water to catch up. Oh my, that's a little
Speaker 3: too overwhelming, unless unless you're making like meatballs or something,
Speaker 3: or you're going to add it into that.
Speaker 1: Big mac salad and you're adding some vinegar to the
Speaker 1: bottle to make a little make a little salad dressing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's get it to let's get it together. We always
Speaker 1: make a peanut sauce from the end of the peanut
Speaker 1: butter jar.
Speaker 4: Say that, I'm not joking, just getting ready to do that.
Speaker 1: If you're not making peanut sauce, peanut sauces at the
Speaker 1: end of your peanut butter jar, what are you even
Speaker 1: doing exactically?
Speaker 4: And you call yourselves frugal?
Speaker 1: You know what, We never waste. We always use every
Speaker 1: single one and it's why we're so behind.
Speaker 3: And that's why we're so frugal. The villa of the week.
Speaker 2: That's right, it's time for the best minute of your
Speaker 2: entire week. Maybe a baby was born and his Williams.
Speaker 2: Maybe you've paid off your mortgage, maybe your car died
Speaker 2: and you're happy to not have to pay that bill anymore.
Speaker 2: Buck bills, butflow bills, bill claim.
Speaker 3: This is the bill of the week. Okay.
Speaker 1: Every week we invite our listeners and our guests to
Speaker 1: share with us their bill of the week, and we
Speaker 1: are always four to six months behind because we don't
Speaker 1: waste a single bill. We play every single one and
Speaker 1: we take one from every single guest, and we can't
Speaker 1: wait to hear yours.
Speaker 5: Okay, this bill of the week tip goes literally handing
Speaker 5: glove with what we've been talking about.
Speaker 4: Your energy bill lowering your energy bill.
Speaker 5: Energy prices have been going up dramatic over the last
Speaker 5: twenty four months.
Speaker 4: How can you lower that?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 5: Here is something that we stumbled upon because we are huge,
Speaker 5: like we do everything we can to keep our electric bill,
Speaker 5: and we reached an impasse. I'm like, Larry, there's got
Speaker 5: to be something we can do. I'm pretty sure that
Speaker 5: there's an idea we haven't come up with yet. We
Speaker 5: came up with it, an energy diary. We keep a
Speaker 5: piece of paper right next to our microwave because that's
Speaker 5: the thing. You turn that microwave on more than you
Speaker 5: do any other appliance in your house, right and we
Speaker 5: just recorded the date and what we used that energy
Speaker 5: for and how long we used it. So when I
Speaker 5: turned on my electric oven, which sucks energy like a vampire,
Speaker 5: then I knew how long it was going to be
Speaker 5: on and I was able to take that energy diary.
Speaker 5: Our utility company shows us our actual energy usage down
Speaker 5: to fifteen minute increments.
Speaker 4: No I know, yeah, they do.
Speaker 5: So I was able to match up the energy diary
Speaker 5: with my actual usage and figure out what I was
Speaker 5: doing that was costing me far more money than I thought.
Speaker 5: It was one of it was the electric and it
Speaker 5: tripled our electric usage during the time it was on.
Speaker 5: So we created a list. Then, how are we going
Speaker 5: to use the electric oven less?
Speaker 4: What are we going to do.
Speaker 5: We're gonna make sure that oven's full, We're going to
Speaker 5: cook multiple items, rolling going to turn it on twice
Speaker 5: a month. What else are we going to use? We
Speaker 5: did a video, this was a couple of years ago,
Speaker 5: where we tested four appliances. I got four squash that
Speaker 5: were about the same size and shape, and we cooked
Speaker 5: it and did a scientific study as scientific as we
Speaker 5: could be to figure out which appliance used the least
Speaker 5: energy to cook. So we used our wall oven, which
Speaker 5: we knew would be the most expensive, a toaster oven,
Speaker 5: crock pot, and our instant pot.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm excited for these results. We are we are leaning.
Speaker 5: Instant pot hands down.
Speaker 4: Here's what we didn't realize. Wow, here's what we didn't realize.
Speaker 3: They scare me though, No, I love.
Speaker 5: Here's what people don't realize because they go, oh, it's
Speaker 5: gotta be it's gotta be your crock putt because it's
Speaker 5: SIPs energy. Yes it does, but it SIPs energy for
Speaker 5: four hours. Your pressure cooker uses that thousand watts of
Speaker 5: energy only until it gets up to pressure. Once it's pressurized,
Speaker 5: it uses zero. It dropped to zero, and that was
Speaker 5: why it used less than any of the other three methods.
Speaker 1: That's how you avoid a hangover, to you take one
Speaker 1: shot for the party versus your friend who sip in
Speaker 1: the whole time. She's gonna feel bad tomorrow, not you.
Speaker 4: This is how I did not think of.
Speaker 3: Wow, a vice that you needed but you didn't ask for.
Speaker 4: Okay, I know.
Speaker 3: I think we didn't need it and we didn't ask
Speaker 3: for it. Okay, we've recorded three episodes today and this
Speaker 3: is the gens for she's on the microphone. This is
Speaker 3: so amazing that you did this, Hope, because I do
Speaker 3: think that this probably feels like more work for most
Speaker 3: people than what they're willing to do. But I think
Speaker 3: we often just assume what's taking the most energy we
Speaker 3: don't actually know, So I think as a practice to
Speaker 3: figure it out, it's worth doing. But then also being
Speaker 3: able to learn from your research and your experiences to know, Okay,
Speaker 3: these are the things that are costing me the most.
Speaker 3: It's my it's my ac and heating and my water
Speaker 3: heater and my oven and how can I reduce those
Speaker 3: things that are that are draining the most. But also
Speaker 3: that instant pot little tip is super helpful for how
Speaker 3: can we cook more with our instant pot? And that's
Speaker 3: how you save on your electric bill. Amazing. If you
Speaker 3: all listening have a bill that you want to submit
Speaker 3: to us, if it has to do with lowering a
Speaker 3: bill or a bill you don't mind paying, or if
Speaker 3: your name is Bill and you're paying bills or you're
Speaker 3: not paying bills, you're just you're just out here being Bill.
Speaker 3: Frugal Friends podcast dot com splash Bill. We can't wait
Speaker 3: to hear it, and now it's time for ready, Okay,
Speaker 3: Jill needs to scroll down so that I.
Speaker 1: Can okay the question it's on the next page there.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 1: What's something an everyday product you think people throw away
Speaker 1: too soon? Oh, this could be ananimate too Oh. Whenever
Speaker 1: you think they throw away too soon.
Speaker 5: I think that people throw away expired food or food
Speaker 5: that is pasted the cell by date way too soon.
Speaker 5: I mean, because I've looked at the FDA website right
Speaker 5: and they're like, the cell by date is the date
Speaker 5: it has to be sold by, not when that product
Speaker 5: is no longer fit for consumption. Now there is a
Speaker 5: point of course of which you should not consume something.
Speaker 5: But if you got a can of soup and it's
Speaker 5: you know, a month past the cell by date, eat
Speaker 5: the soup. People throw stuff out all the time, especially
Speaker 5: medications or spices. Spices don't generally go bad. They lose
Speaker 5: potency over time and you might have to use more
Speaker 5: of that spice, but they don't generally like go rancid.
Speaker 5: So and you know what, and knowing where to keep things.
Speaker 5: Your tree nuts they belong in the freezer because the
Speaker 5: natural oils will make them go rancid. So maybe you're
Speaker 5: throwing away that two pound bag of walnuts because you
Speaker 5: just didn't store it properly. Put it in the refrigerator.
Speaker 5: Put it in the freezer and it will last a
Speaker 5: lot longer.
Speaker 1: And if you can afford two pounds of water, I.
Speaker 3: Give us your friend. Wow, that's a nice tree nut,
Speaker 3: it is you do? You do love walnuts? We've talked
Speaker 3: about like our favorite nut in the past, and I
Speaker 3: think walnut was yours.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just it's elevated. But it's like not Macedamia, right,
Speaker 1: it's you know, not.
Speaker 3: As it adds.
Speaker 5: So much flavor to stuff. But like, we're plant based,
Speaker 5: so the most expensive thing we ever buy is probably nuts.
Speaker 5: It just because you know, you know, beans and produce
Speaker 5: and rice in it, and they don't cost very much.
Speaker 5: But yeah, and I buy three pounds of walnuts at
Speaker 5: one time.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's because you like quality. Yeah, good quality. That's
Speaker 1: a walnut chill.
Speaker 3: I think people throw away their glass jars too quickly. Well,
Speaker 3: first of all, they shouldn't be thrown away. Glass is
Speaker 3: the one true thing that actually can be recycled, so
Speaker 3: I think if we are getting rid of them, make
Speaker 3: sure you're recycling. But also, there are so many uses
Speaker 3: for glass jars that we ought to just be Now.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying horde them, because there does come a
Speaker 3: point where you just don't need them anymore. But I
Speaker 3: will use my glass jars to make my own salad dressing,
Speaker 3: store my DIY, laundry detergent, give cut flowers to friends,
Speaker 3: give sour dough starter to friends, store leftover foods in
Speaker 3: because glass is better than plastic for food storage, so
Speaker 3: better to not have to buy the stuff from the store,
Speaker 3: but to utilize those pasta jars.
Speaker 1: And they have better lids than Mason jars. Yeah, Mason
Speaker 1: jar lids are the they Yes, they're the worst. The
Speaker 1: lids on these glass from food our hands down better.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Organizing for stuff even not in the kitchen, like
Speaker 3: buttons or stamps or stickers or you know, if you're
Speaker 3: a crafty person, you you better be saving your glass jars. Okay,
Speaker 3: here turn chen. Wow. Yeah, I got a soapbox. Brought
Speaker 3: this one.
Speaker 4: Love it.
Speaker 3: I have a soapbox too. Oh no, and please tell
Speaker 3: me it's not flavored coffee.
Speaker 1: I think people throw away in their ground flavored coffee
Speaker 1: too soon. I don't think it expires as quickly as
Speaker 1: people think it does.
Speaker 3: And are you really saying this box?
Speaker 1: I'm in November because I bought the Black Friday sale
Speaker 1: and I got it.
Speaker 3: I got it in.
Speaker 1: Bulk so that I could get not bulk, but I
Speaker 1: got enough to get free shipping.
Speaker 3: I think you're talking to the wrong one here, because
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure I remember Hope is a coffee snob.
Speaker 4: I am absolutely coffee snob.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna.
Speaker 4: I like I like me my flavored coffee. I gotta
Speaker 4: say I do.
Speaker 3: Okay, Wow, If.
Speaker 1: Jill doesn't appreciate flavored coffee, or if it's.
Speaker 3: Pre ground.
Speaker 1: Fire right now and I'm still drinking coffee that I bought.
Speaker 3: Ouch. Yeah, but I think it's fine. She's hurting me
Speaker 3: with her words.
Speaker 4: I do you mind the beans we grind our beans?
Speaker 4: I will say that.
Speaker 5: But if we find a rock and good deal on
Speaker 5: preground coffee, you better bet that we are buying it.
Speaker 5: But you know, of course, where your flavored coffee needs
Speaker 5: to be stored. It's got to be in the freezer,
Speaker 5: my friend in the well, Yes, ma'am.
Speaker 3: I will put If I get coffee on sale, I
Speaker 3: will put it in the freezer. But like we are not,
Speaker 3: I am making sure that it is being drank within
Speaker 3: like a month of it having been produced. She is
Speaker 3: so genuit fresh and so now I just lean in. Yeah, ah,
Speaker 3: love it. She loves to torture me. Hope.
Speaker 1: Now that everyone knows you like nice things and you
Speaker 1: like to extend the life of your nice things, and
Speaker 1: they want more of that in their life, where can
Speaker 1: they find you?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 5: If you are ready to consistently spend less and save more,
Speaker 5: you can find me at my website underthemedian dot com.
Speaker 5: Or we have a really really fun YouTube channel where
Speaker 5: we post twice a week and that's also under the
Speaker 5: Median on YouTube. Oh and I have a free I
Speaker 5: have a free guide I'd love to give to your
Speaker 5: to your where viewers and your listeners. So I have
Speaker 5: a guide on how to lower your expenses and it
Speaker 5: walks through ton different ways you can and lower your expenses,
Speaker 5: different areas of your budget, step by stuff, instructions plus checklists.
Speaker 5: It's free and I will make sure that I give
Speaker 5: these guys a link and they can put.
Speaker 4: It in the show notes.
Speaker 5: You can also go to my website under the Median
Speaker 5: dot com and you'll find it all the way toward
Speaker 5: the top of the perfect page on the website.
Speaker 3: Awesome, hope, thanks for being here. We appreciate it. We
Speaker 3: feel like we got the most from you. We stretched
Speaker 3: this conversation in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: We're bringing guests on for us and everyone else just
Speaker 1: gets to benefit from our enrichment.
Speaker 3: Yes, fastest forty five minutes of my life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because we just cut from the intro to the outro.
Speaker 1: If you're watching it via video, if we posted it.
Speaker 3: I guess you'll have to have the YouTube to find out. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but truly, we also just finished up our interview with
Speaker 3: Hope and it was so fun and I really particularly
Speaker 3: love her focus on let's get an understanding on how
Speaker 3: much we are currently using. I think that's just a
Speaker 3: good practice. Whether or not you want to be cutting
Speaker 3: all of your stuff with water or not, or cutting
Speaker 3: open the toothpaste bottle, it still is good to know
Speaker 3: am I using the right amount? Am I using more
Speaker 3: than I need? Because as with anything, when it comes
Speaker 3: to finances, and probably apart from that, just finding our
Speaker 3: enough is what we are all about. How do we
Speaker 3: determine what is enough for us? And when it comes
Speaker 3: to consumption, that is a great question to be asking ourselves.
Speaker 3: What is enough? Hand soap usage, condiment usage, laundry soap usage,
Speaker 3: mean just all of it?
Speaker 1: Just don't know, yeah, exactly, Like how much condiment usage?
Speaker 3: You know? How much is? Oh? I actually use way
Speaker 3: too much? Catch up? Like I realize it when I'm eating,
Speaker 3: I'll put a whole It's not even a doll up,
Speaker 3: it's a whole, big old squeeze. Got to save that. Okay,
Speaker 3: we're going to save that anyhow. Thank the people. First,
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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay, I eat a lot of ketchup. When
Speaker 3: I'm eating something with ketchup, I'm so sad this is
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Speaker 1: I just ketchup is kind of gross.
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Speaker 3: But I eat those things a lot, so well with
Speaker 3: a smaller thing. Okay, but truly, when I am eating
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Speaker 3: because I see what other people are doing, like my husband,
Speaker 3: and he'll he'll put a true doll up like a
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Speaker 1: That's more than a doll up. A doll is like
Speaker 1: a teaspoon. Oh m hm, let us know in the
Speaker 1: cor how I just the dollup A doll is, uh, yeah,
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Speaker 3: I will put a lot a lot more than that,
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Speaker 3: feels like it gets soaked into the bun or something.
Speaker 3: So then I'll also put more than a dollup onto
Speaker 3: my plate and I'll dip the burger into the ketchup.
Speaker 3: I know, jen, I know. And then if I've got fries,
Speaker 3: which I normally do, I I am putting ketchup more
Speaker 3: ketchup on my plate too to three times throughout the meal. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's a problem. I like putting some ketchup.
Speaker 1: If I'm doing like a big Mac salad, I'll make
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Speaker 1: I will put some ketchup. Like I'm not a monster.
Speaker 3: I think I'm a monster when it comes to ketchup.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't There would be somebody who just eats it
Speaker 1: all dry, no ketch fries, no ketchup on burger.
Speaker 3: That is a monster.
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