1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in everybody, Thursday edition of Clay 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: and Buck, and we got breaking news coming from all 4 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: over the place right now, and as we speak, I 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: mean breaking this moment. Here at the very top of 6 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: the show, Biden just finishing up remarks on border security, 7 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: the single most specific in its claims and policies border 8 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 1: talk that I can remember Biden giving, certainly while president, 9 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: and we will break down for you some of what 10 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: he's got in mind here. There's an app for that, apparently, Clay, 11 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: there's an app. I'm so there's an app. People just 12 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: want They just want an app, and then all of 13 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: a sudden, the laws will be respected. The laws will 14 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: be respected. A word I did not hear is deportation, 15 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: which I've started to notice we don't really hear that word. 16 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: We hear removals. They're changing the language. Whatever happened at 17 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: deportation didn't come up very much in the speech, if 18 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: at all. But we'll break down what his specific policies 19 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: are from this. He's also supposed to actually find the 20 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: US Mexico border on Sunday, which that must be interesting 21 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: for him. He's never been there before, despite what the 22 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: administration said in the past. Meanwhile, you've also got the 23 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: would be I believe, the seventh vote now for Speaker 24 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: of the House. That is, as we speak to you 25 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: right now, in process we're preparing to happen. So we 26 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: will look at the results of this. And there are 27 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: a lot of reports about negotiations and the rebels. I 28 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: think that term, that term is pretty good. That's ketching up. 29 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: People will have used some other ones. The rebels, the 30 00:01:54,800 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: holdouts against McCarthy have apparently gotten some concessions, which we'll 31 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: discuss that coming up in a little bit. But Clay, 32 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: I mean the biggest things that I took from the 33 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: Biden border crisis speech, which now they're admitting, I guess 34 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: it's a crisis, right the President speaking about it, He's 35 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: going to the border after all of the delay, and 36 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: this is an enormously complicated but also incredibly important issue 37 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: after all the things that we've seen going on. He's 38 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: talking about three point five billion to secure the border, 39 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: which really means more asylum personnel and judges. I'm starting 40 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: to think, Clay, my top level thought on this is 41 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: that we're going to move from the push for mass 42 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: amnesty via remember the Obama administration, it was comprehensive immigration reform, 43 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: to now the push for a highly streamlined process for 44 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: even more people to come in under the idea of 45 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: on the idea of getting asylum, and you're gonna have 46 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,399 Speaker 1: instead of mass amnesty is mass asylum, which is effectively 47 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: the same thing, a whole lot of people going outside 48 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: the normal immigration process. Now, I know people are gonna say, oh, 49 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 1: asylum is part of immigration. This is an enormous expansion. 50 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: We don't take in that many assiles in any given year. 51 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 1: I think he's hoping to make this a lot easier. 52 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: So essentially, instead of fixing the loophole, Clay Biden wants 53 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: to codify the asylum loophole and make it much bigger, 54 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: make it a super highway if you will, of quote 55 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: asylum seekers. There are two things that immediately jump out 56 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: to me. One, if he's going to the border on Sunday, 57 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: which is the report he's supposedly traveling to El Paso, 58 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: I think he's going to go there. He's going to 59 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: lay out his plan knowing that his plan is unlikely 60 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: to pass Congress and eventually get bogged down, and then 61 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: he's going to say, well, I tried to solve this, 62 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: but Republicans wouldn't work with me this budget. This immigration 63 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: crisis is on them. Second part, and this is important. 64 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: Allowing people in with visas or this app or whatever 65 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: he's going to do to work is in theory something 66 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: that would then allow them to leave what we have 67 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: to address. I remember when we made fun of Kamala 68 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: Harris because she used the phrase root cause like a 69 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: bunch of different times in her address down in El 70 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: Salvador or wherever she went. When she got humiliated when 71 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: she interviewed with a Lester Holt, I guess it was 72 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: who called her out for not ever having been to 73 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: the border. The reason why people come here is twofold 74 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: one for better economic opportunity. Okay, I think a lot 75 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: of people understand that. And it's important to recognize how 76 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: the border region has shifted over the year's buck Because 77 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: initially people came across, let's say, from Mexico, they worked 78 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: here for a period of time, and then they went 79 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: back home. That was the primary use of crossing the border. 80 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: Now people here and they have children, so this is 81 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: twofold one. Is the economic opportunity two is once you 82 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 1: are here and you have a child, that child is 83 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: an automatic American citizen if they are born on American soil, 84 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: and as a result, you will never have to basically 85 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: leave America. That's the reality. So if we really want 86 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: to address the incentive structure, I think it's hard to 87 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: remove the economic incentive, but the birthright citizenship that is 88 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: this idea which I've been researching it because I'm so 89 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: utterly intrigued by it, but it's a vestige of the 90 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: colonial era. In other words, if you were in England 91 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: and you were getting thinking about making the move to 92 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: the United States, to one of our colonies, then the 93 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: way they guaranteed you that you would always have your 94 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: British citizenship is your kids, even if they were born 95 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: in a colony, would still be considered British. And that 96 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: was taken by France and Spain and Portugal and everywhere else. 97 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: Birthright citizenship based on soil, that is, being born in 98 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 1: a country almost doesn't exist anywhere else in the world. 99 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: And unless we're willing to have a real conversation about that, 100 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 1: I don't know how we change the economic incentives, because 101 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: our country is much better than most countries in the world. 102 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: But the birthright citizenship angle is something that should be 103 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: discussed debated in a serious manner because it's a major 104 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 1: incentive structure that no longer applies, in my opinion, like 105 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: it would in the colonial era. People are gaming the 106 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: system of immigration, the laws in this country in myrriad 107 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: ways and in massive numbers. And so when Biden says, 108 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: as he did in the start of the speech, which 109 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: is still ongoing as we talk to you, as is 110 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: the beginning of the seventh vote for Speaker of the 111 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: House in Congress, there's a lot going on today in 112 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: our nation's capital, the political front. What Clay Biden said 113 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: that these are people fleeing oppression and escaping gang violence. 114 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: You're not an asylum seeker. Just to be very clear, 115 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: if there is gang violence in your country, that is 116 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: not the basis for an asylum claim, And if the 117 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: Biden administration's pretending it is, that's deeply dishonest. Asylum is 118 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: supposed to be for people who are specifically targeted and 119 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: persecuted on religious, political, ethnic, etc. On those grounds. As 120 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: an individual, it's not. My country is unsafe and kind 121 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: of crappy. I'd rather be in America, because if that's 122 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: the basis for an asylum claim that this goes to 123 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: the very baseline of everything that we're seeing with the 124 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: flooded border. If my country has a lot of violence, 125 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: a lot of corruption and I don't like it, and 126 00:07:56,280 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: that qualifies you for asylum, that's like, you know, most 127 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: of the countries in the world would it would then be. 128 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: And if it's not specific to that individual, when they 129 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: say fleeing oppression and escaping gang violence, they're fleeing oppression 130 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: in these Latin American countries. Okay, even if you want 131 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: to make that case, which I would claim is a 132 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: complete abuse of the notion asylum is for please take 133 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: me in America or else I'll be tortured and my 134 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: family will be murdered because of who I am, or 135 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: because of what I stand for or whatever. That's an 136 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: asylum seeker. It's not. Hey, you guys have a better 137 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: jobs market, a great welfare system, and you know most 138 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: of your cities are safer than the cities where I 139 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: come from. I now get to be an American. That's 140 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: the immigration system. Right. If you want to just come 141 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: to America because it's better, you're supposed to go through 142 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: the normal immigration process. Asylum is for people who are 143 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: and in the past that actually would be this. You know, 144 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: they're jumping off the off a boat and swimming to 145 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: shore and saying, you know, America, take me in or 146 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: else I'm finished, please, and the goodness of your hearts. 147 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: This is being exploited on a massive scale, and they're 148 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: exploiting it through bringing children along to get different, you know, 149 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: a different treatment at the border because of the presence 150 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: of children. All these things that are happening. The cartels 151 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: are exploiting this. Biden addresses none of this. This is 152 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: exactly what I thought they would do all along, which 153 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: is streamlining the process to essentially mainstream the abuse of 154 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: the system that's going on right now. This will effectively 155 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: be our immigration policy all a big lie. I'm surprised, 156 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: frankly that they even addressed it because this is a 157 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: big negative polling area for Joe Biden, which is why 158 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: I think ultimately this is a pivot to acknowledge that 159 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: there is an issue, but then to hang the blame 160 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: on Republicans for why the issue exists, again, making fun 161 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: of Kamala for the root cause over and over again. 162 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 1: But there are two root causes. Better opportunity and birthright citizenship. 163 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: We should as a country examined whether given that we 164 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 1: now have three hundred and thirty million people. But back 165 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: in the day it was tough to get people to 166 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: get on a boat and come to a colony. It's 167 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: not hard to get people to come to America. Now 168 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: we're not begging for people to come and settle this country. 169 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,599 Speaker 1: So the idea of birthright citizenship really significantly needs to 170 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 1: be examined it it has not actually been directly examined 171 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: by the Supreme Court, for example, it hasn't been taken 172 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: all the way up. It should be taken I believe 173 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: all the way up. I do think there's a constitutional 174 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: intern I completely agree with you. By the way. I 175 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:36,119 Speaker 1: mean that's now the birthright citizenship issue comes in obviously 176 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: with it comes into play with women who are coming 177 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: into America and having children here, and and specifically when 178 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: you have this birth tourism. There's a term for it 179 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: where people show up, I mean a lot of the 180 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: people crossing the southern border. Are you know. This is 181 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: where the term anchor baby comes from, which I'm sure 182 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: now we're not supposed to use. But The idea is 183 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: you have the kid here and then you're never effectively 184 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: never going to be deported, and you get access because 185 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 1: that child now as an American citizen under current interpretation 186 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: of law, you get you get access to a whole 187 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: range of benefits. What happens is we know in California, 188 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: and specifically with a lot of a lot of Asians 189 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 1: who come to California for this purpose, Chinese particularly, it's 190 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: really largely a Chinese national issue. Is they have a 191 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: child here, as we've discussed, go back to China, raise 192 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: the child in China until college, and then they show 193 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: up and say, okay, we want in state tuition at 194 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: UCLA and US citizenship because guess what born here. That's right, 195 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 1: that is illegal. Just whoever, No, this is not like, oh, 196 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: you're nuts. That's the beautiful stuff in our democracy is 197 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: that people can do this. No, that's actually illegal. You 198 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: can be arrested for that. You're not supposed to operate. 199 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: But it just goes clay to all these scams that 200 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: are being operated. Ultimately, it only works if people in 201 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: good faith enforce our laws, and the Biden administration is 202 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: completely lacking in faith when it comes to the execution, 203 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: immigration law a full stop and when you bring more 204 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: people in this is this is important. Like let's say 205 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: you come in at eighteen or nineteen and I agree 206 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: with you asylum as being exaggerated. But when you go 207 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: to a country at eighteen or nineteen years old, let's 208 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 1: say you're a woman, you come here. You may not 209 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,719 Speaker 1: even be intending to have a child here one day, 210 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: because a lot of eighteen and nine year olds aren't 211 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: necessarily thinking about having kids. But if you end up 212 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 1: in this country for four or five years, your chances 213 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: of having a kid here are huge, and that means 214 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 1: you'll probably never leave. So all of this process again, 215 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: you can't go a buck if you're getting married too, 216 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: if you were like, hey, you know what, I want 217 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: my kid to be Chinese and American, you can't get 218 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: on a plane and fly to China and have a 219 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: baby there and say, oh, my kids an American and 220 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: a Chinese person, Like, they don't allow you to do that. 221 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: It's almost not allowed to anywhere else in the world. 222 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: I don't think Americans realize how rare this is. You wouldn't. 223 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: I don't think this would work in an EU country either. 224 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: You're Canadian specific to the country. But if I show 225 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: up in France and and you know, carries probably didn't 226 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: we have a child in France, they'd say, yeah, you're Americans. Yes, 227 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,599 Speaker 1: it is correct, you have an American baby. It's not 228 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: a French baby. You guys are Americans. You're not French citizens, 229 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: you're not French subjects. I think that's true of France. 230 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: If I'm wrong, someone please, I'm true mostly of all 231 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: of your most European countries. I know that's I know 232 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: that's that's considered the case. But but Clay, you know, 233 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: we actually don't even have to get as far as 234 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: the birthright citizenship issue to see I mean that that's 235 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: an additional layer, additional problem because people aren't being deported period. 236 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: You're in the country illegally, right, So birthright citizenship in 237 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: the context we're talking about it means that people come 238 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,719 Speaker 1: to the country illegally and then they're never going to 239 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: be deported once they have a child. That is true, 240 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: That just it doesn't really have it and then they 241 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: know it. But we're not even at We're at a 242 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: phase now where Interior enforcement by Immigrations and Customs Enforcement, 243 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: which should change its name because it's really just the 244 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: welcome and commit for illegal immigrants. Now at the southern border, 245 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 1: interior enforcement's broken down so much that you don't even 246 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: have to worry about having an anchor baby here. You 247 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 1: don't have to worry about whether you could actually use 248 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 1: that process to your advantage, because you're just gonna get 249 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: to stay. Yes, that's where there's the real number. Because 250 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: they also they play games with what is a deportation. 251 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: If you're a single adult, mail you're turned back from 252 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: the US Mexico border right now, right away, Are you 253 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: considered a deportation? Are you counted in the removals? Because 254 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: once you get into the interior of the United States, 255 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: deportation numbers have dropped like a stone in water. And 256 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: it is purposeful anyway. This is there's a big issue. 257 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: What we've got more on Biden and also Claius either 258 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: clapping on the floor of Congress. 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You know, 285 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: Biden gave this speech earlier today about immigration, and while 286 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: we were talking a lot about asylum and the app 287 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: that apparently now all the illegal immigrants are going to 288 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: use to try to whatever point is, there's a lot 289 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: of other pieces to this as well, including the cartels 290 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: and the fentanyl and how the lawless border allows for 291 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: all this to happen. Here's what Biden said about about fentyl, 292 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: specifically played twenty three. For example, since August of last year, 293 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: Custom and Border Patrol has sees more than twenty thousand 294 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: pounds of deadly fentyl. That's enough to kill kills many 295 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: as a thousand people in this country. Twenty thousand pounds 296 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: of fentyl. It's a killer. I mean, twenty thousand pounds 297 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: of fentanyl could kill I would just guess more like 298 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands or maybe even a few million people. 299 00:16:55,160 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: But nonetheless, Biden doesn't seem to want to do anything 300 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: sean about the cartels. What do you think could be done? 301 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 1: How do we secure the border when it comes to 302 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 1: this threat? I mean, I think number one would be 303 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 1: taking the reins off our border patrol agents. Number two 304 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: would be putting a wall or some type of a 305 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 1: structure up. I mean a lot of people say that's 306 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: not going to stop anything, to include a lot of 307 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: the cartel type experts who are talking about how they're 308 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 1: getting these things in. But I mean, just looking at 309 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 1: the way, I mean, walls do stop things. It's at 310 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: least going to slow the traffic down. You know John, 311 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: when you yeah, it's always fascinating. People say walls don't work, 312 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: and then you find out that they live in a 313 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: gated community, and it's like, well, you know, it does explain. 314 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 1: I'd love to hear the next follow up, like when 315 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 1: somebody says walls don't work, and then you have the 316 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: over the top follow up, well why do you live 317 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 1: in a gated community? Then what Trump has come out 318 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: with his own plan, and it basically would involve declaring 319 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: the the cartels a national security threat to America, which 320 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: would allow us to basically treat them. My understanding is, 321 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: like terrorists, is that an irrational act? A rational act? 322 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: What could we do if we really wanted to decide, hey, 323 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 1: these cartels are public enemy number one? I mean you 324 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 1: have to be able to send them a very stern message. 325 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: And with the way our border patrol guys, their hands 326 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: are tied behind their back, you know, and they're scrutinized 327 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: by the media. They've they've completely demoralized that entire agency, 328 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 1: you know, and so they have to let these guys 329 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: do their job in order to have any effect on 330 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 1: this at all, you know. And you know, but what 331 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: bothers me the most is, well maybe not the most, 332 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 1: but where all this is coming from. It's not just 333 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: the cartels. The Chinese are enabling the cartels with all 334 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: the Stentinel. That's who's training these guys to make the 335 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: world's deadliest stentinel. And they're already starting to train. They 336 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: made the transition from Heroin to Fenton All now they're 337 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 1: going to make another transition from Fenton al to this 338 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: next thing, which I don't think they've named it yet, 339 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: but it's already coming through the border. Do you think, Sean, 340 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: at this point, given how much money the cartels are making. 341 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: We're speaking to Sean Ryan of the Sean Ryan Show. 342 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: Everybody former Navy Seal Sean. Given how powerful the cartels are, 343 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: we know that they're able to pay effectively mercenaries off 344 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: the global market to work for them, to even train 345 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: some of their cicarios. What do you think it looks 346 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: like if we decided to get much more involved in 347 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,360 Speaker 1: the narco war in Mexico, assuming the Mexican government would 348 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: even allow that, do you think that we could make 349 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: a real dent there? If the Mexican government said, you 350 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: know what, fine, we'll allow you know, we'll allow our 351 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: special operations to train even more extensively, I know the 352 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: training that goes on already, but much more extensively, and 353 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: even engage in joint missions on a regular basis. Do 354 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: you think that could degree aid the cartels in a 355 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: significant fashion? Absolutely? It would. You know. The thing that 356 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: people don't realize about these cartels is they're very militaristic. 357 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: It's not if they could go back to you say, 358 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: when we were fighting Taliban al Qaeda. You know, they 359 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 1: blend in with civilian population. These cartels are trained militaries. 360 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 1: They're pulling people off the street, they're handing them an 361 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 1: ak in a uniform, and they have their own turf 362 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: wars going on inside Mexico, which is an all out 363 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 1: it's an all out battlefront, you know, and so if 364 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 1: we interdict some of those areas, that's going to disrupt 365 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: a lot of the activity. Sean, you're a Navy seal, 366 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: You're a badass. You know a lot of badasses as well. 367 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: When you see how woke our military has become. What 368 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: kind of conversations do you have with your fellow past 369 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: and current Navy seals and how much frustration is there 370 00:20:56,119 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: with military leadership in general in your experience, I would 371 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: say on a level of one to ten, it's a 372 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: level ten. The conversations I have with the guys that 373 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: I served with, they're both out and wrapping up their careers. 374 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: Most of the guys that I was in whether are 375 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 1: wrapping up their twenty year careers by this point, and 376 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: you know, once again, they've demoralized the entire military. Nobody 377 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: wants to go into special operations. The guys that are 378 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: in there, nobody wants to stay in special operations. Everybody 379 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 1: wants out because of the woke agenda that's coming into 380 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: all of the teams. How could you solve it? So 381 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: we get that question all the time, like how frustrated 382 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: so many people in the military are with the culture 383 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: that currently exists. Let's say that you got to be 384 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: in charge, you and your buddies at the Navy Seals, 385 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: and you could go back in and de woke ify 386 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 1: the military. How would you do it? What would need 387 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: to occur? You know, I mean, I try to look 388 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: at both sides of the fence here, and if they 389 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: do need to more diversification in the military, than okay, 390 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: so be it. What I would do is go with 391 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: the combat effective units and say does this help with 392 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 1: the mission. Is it going to help to bring this 393 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: wokeness into the Seal teams, into the Green Beret teams, 394 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: into the jay Stock teams. No, it's not. It's going 395 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 1: to create frustration, it's going to create anxiety. It's going 396 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: to break up the team dynamic. I mean, what people 397 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,360 Speaker 1: don't understand about special operations is the team that you're 398 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 1: with you know them better than your family. You spend 399 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: a good three hundred days a year with the gents 400 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: on your team and fifty days a year with your family. 401 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: And so when you inject something that's that's that's out 402 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: of the norm, that puts guys in an uncomfortable situation 403 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: that completely destroys the team dynamic. And that team dynamic 404 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 1: is that's what drives everything. It's it's the trust that 405 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: the team has with each other, and that's why they're 406 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: able to carry out these, i mean, next to impossible missions. 407 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: Sean Ryan's show Everybody is really strong stuff. I mean 408 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: he does sit downs, long form with warriors, Navy Seals, 409 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: Green Beret. He did a long form clay with Eric 410 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,959 Speaker 1: Prince that was fascinating. He's done some great stuff over there, 411 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 1: so I'd recommend people check it out. Sean. Thank you 412 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: for your service and thanks for joining us here. We'll 413 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: talk to you again soon. Thank you, Buck. We got 414 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: to get you on the show. 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Third hour of Clay and 444 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: Buckets going right now, everybody, The ruckus on the House 445 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 1: floor continues, Who will be the next speaker? We have 446 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: somebody who can give some special insight to this because 447 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 1: he is right there right now in Congress and about 448 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: to vote, but he's joining us for a couple of 449 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: moments here to tell us what's going on. Congressman Dan 450 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: Bishop is with us right now. Congressman Bishop, appreciate you 451 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: being with us, Sir, Hello, glad to be with you. 452 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 1: I just missed my name doesn't pass, but I'll go 453 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: up and vote at the end, which you can do so. 454 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,199 Speaker 1: But I'm glad to have a chance to speak with 455 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: you all. Well, really appreciate you making the time as 456 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 1: this vote is under way and you're going to be 457 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: casting your vote. And if let's just start with the 458 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: most pressent question, how are you going going to vote 459 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 1: on this eighth ballot? And why Congressman the suspense must 460 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: be killing everybody. I'm to vote for Byron Donalds of Florida. 461 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 1: And the answer is because the institution of the United 462 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,719 Speaker 1: States House needs to be changed. It needs to be 463 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: put to work for the American people, not for DC. 464 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: We cannot continue Nancy Pelosi style governance here in the House. 465 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: So how does this play out? So we're on I believe, 466 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: the eighth vote right now, If you are still going 467 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: to vote for Byron Donalds, that would suggest that the 468 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: twenty or so of which you are a member who 469 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: will not support, will not support the current you know, 470 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: the expected speaker here. How does this end? Like? Where 471 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: do we go from here? How do you see this 472 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: playing out? It is you know, from sampling the media, 473 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 1: interviews and inquiries I've had, that's the question seems to 474 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: be on everybody's mind. And I understand that it is. 475 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: And the answer is that I don't precisely know, but 476 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: that is the beauty of the process we're engaged in. 477 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: And a lot of people will wring their hands or 478 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 1: you see on some places out on me it's this chaos. 479 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: It is not chaos. This is how Congress operate. And 480 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 1: and so we've had three days that the nation will 481 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 1: certainly endure in which we've been and there's there's a 482 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: there's a you know, there's something on there's a spect 483 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: on TV about the votes that American people are the 484 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 1: customer seeing, and there's a lot of work that's going 485 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: on in the background and has been for months to 486 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: do what I said at the at the top, which 487 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 1: is to change this place and make it work, because 488 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: at least to Micromans, I don't know that many people 489 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: and I've not encountered that man who say, you know what, 490 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 1: Congress works exactly as it should. It is basically solving 491 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: the American people's problems and keeping things working well. I 492 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 1: don't think anybody thinks that about speaking percent of people 493 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 1: think otherwise. We're speaking of Congressman Bishop. He's on the 494 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 1: floor right no, or, I should say, in Congress right 495 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 1: now up on Capitol Hill. I'm about to be casting 496 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 1: his vote on the floor. He will be casting it 497 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 1: for Speaker the House, for Byron Donald's, not for Kevin McCarthy, 498 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: who we've established that Congressman Bishop of course of North Carolina. 499 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: For everybody out there, what is it that what is 500 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 1: it that would be different? Let's say, let's just say 501 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: for the purpose of discussion, the Congressman Donald's is successful eventually, 502 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: and who knows, could be on the fiftieth ballot given 503 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 1: how things are going. If that were to happen. How 504 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: would Congress be different than a Kevin McCarthy speakership. Here's 505 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: the clearest way that I could even say it. Two 506 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: weeks ago we passed ran through the House after coming 507 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: out of the Senate with eighteen Republican votes, a one 508 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: point seven trillion dollars omnibus put together by a handful 509 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: of people in the dark in the back room, that 510 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: has all sorts of horrible stuff in it. I've detailed 511 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: it in a long Twitter thread that went viral some 512 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: of it. What you can forty eight hundred pages. They 513 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: put it out two days before you pass it, right 514 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: before Christmas. Ram it through where else the government's going 515 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: to shut down? That would stop, And we're working on 516 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: stop of that, regardless who the speaker. Would be caused 517 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: by changing rules and processes, but those can always be 518 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: waived by a majority vote on the House floor. And 519 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: so what you really need. The best way to guarantee 520 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: change is to have a person who will lead you 521 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: to change. But if you can't get that, then you've 522 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: got to do the best you can to build processes 523 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: that and build pressure so that you follow through and 524 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: do the right things. It is a tough call. But 525 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: it's really important that it succeed. So you're voting for 526 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: Byron Donalds, you said, although you haven't, I'm going to 527 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: cast that vote yet on the eighth eighth ballot here 528 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: as they searched for a speaker. But yesterday I believe 529 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: it was Corey Bush, Democrat from Missouri, attacked him based 530 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: on his race. I mean it was basically blatantly racist 531 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: for being up as potentially a speaker candidate. I believe 532 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: you spoke on the floor earlier to address that issue. 533 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: What did you say and what did you think of 534 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: what Corey Bush said about Byron Donald's the man who 535 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: you intend to vote for a Speaker of the House. 536 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: I put it out there in my speech nominating him 537 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: on the first ballot of the day. And what she 538 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: said about him in a tweet she called him a 539 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: prop And you didn't even note Byron Donalds to know 540 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: how cert it is. He's not a prop. And this 541 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: is and the reason I spoke of it today, and 542 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: of one other instant that has occurred is other illustrations 543 00:30:56,040 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: of the Washington DC that people are completely familiar with. 544 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: They've seen it for years and years. That grotesquely racist 545 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: trope is used constantly by the left here. It's got 546 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: to stop. We've got to quit doing things exactly the 547 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: same way in the same order and expect different results. 548 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: And I just think it's reprehensible and calling it out 549 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: just like doing this is the kind of thing that 550 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: men and women have courage are going to need to 551 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: come here and do. And I gotta tell you, if 552 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: you don't have courage here, it's never going to change. 553 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: Congressman Bishop, can I ask there's some reporting from earlier 554 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: today that McCarthy had agreed to a number of specific 555 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: asks from members of the Freedom Caucus who had been 556 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: voting against him and voting for another candidate, a whole 557 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: range of things, to vote on term limits, whether somebody 558 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: could vote for effectively, what is it a no confidence 559 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,959 Speaker 1: vote to remove the speaker? Is there a future you 560 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: could see in which, if certain assurances are given and 561 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: promises are made, you could see Kevin McCarthy win despite 562 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: the opposition against him, because there would have been concessions 563 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: made that would deal with some of the concerns all 564 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: the Freedom Caucus Or is it no way, no how 565 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: you and other members, to your knowledge, are going to 566 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: actually vote for McCarthy when this is all said and done, 567 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: You know, I think the important thing is that there 568 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: are a number of risks to be managed. There are 569 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: You've got to solve the problem of fixing the place 570 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: for the American people. Beyond that, I don't have preconditions. 571 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: It just has to get fixed. So I wouldn't say 572 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna. I wouldn't say I'm not because I think 573 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: we've got to preserve the possibility to do something that's 574 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: neat representa Dan Bishop talking with us, you mentioned all 575 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: the work you did and your staff did, and I 576 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: appreciate you for the work you did on the omnibus 577 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: bill and what you put out there, even though ridiculously 578 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: eighteen Republicans in the Senate went along with that bill. 579 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: And we talked about your work and your staff's work 580 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: on this show. As in a lead up to that 581 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: one one point seven trillion, you're seeing a lot of 582 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: people voted for right now. Do you believe that whoever 583 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: the speaker is should be a currently serving member of 584 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: the House, because I saw where Matt Gates, for instance, 585 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: put Donald Trump forward as the Speaker of the House nominee. 586 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: Do you believe that it should be somebody who is 587 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: currently will get the job done and so and I 588 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: hate to do this, but I'm about to miss my opportunity. No, no, sir, 589 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: you got to go vote. Do you understand? Congress and 590 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: Dan Bishop, thank you so much, sir for speaking to 591 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: our audience across the country about this pivotal issue. Go 592 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: to your constitutional duty, sir. Appreciate you joining us here 593 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: on the program. Thank you very much. You know, Clay, 594 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 1: look round eight. It's not gonna be over, It's not 595 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: gonna be finished here. It could go on. But you know, 596 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 1: everything that he was saying, I mean, I get it. 597 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: I think that there are a lot of folks out 598 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:20,760 Speaker 1: there for whom it's just they want they want change, 599 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: and they want there to be honestly more accountability, even 600 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,879 Speaker 1: on the Republican side. Yeah, and maybe they're not even 601 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: sure exactly how we get to every step of that, 602 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 1: or rather what every step of that will look like 603 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 1: right now. But essentially this is you know, some folks 604 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: on the right are matt as heck, and they're not 605 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: gonna take it anymore. They've had enough. Here's the essential question, 606 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 1: and so far today we've seen it. The twenty are 607 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: not buckling, and the two hundred or so that support 608 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,320 Speaker 1: McCarthy are not buckling either. We're now into the eighth vote, 609 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: where essentially we have established that there are twenty who 610 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 1: are not moving and there are about two hundred that 611 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: are not moving. Who moves first, right, I mean, that's 612 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: the essence of this. If the twenty are not going 613 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: to move, then McCarthy can't get to two eighteen. But 614 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: if the two hundred stay committed to McCarthy, then the 615 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: twenty aren't gaining support either. So how long does this 616 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: go on? Is the question I think, and the most 617 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: significant I would say aspect of today's votes is none 618 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: of the twenty have come off of their opposition to 619 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 1: Kevin McCarthy so far. And gridlock is not something that 620 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 1: people should be afraid of when it comes to federal government. 621 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: Gridlock is your friend, usually the gridlock you know the Democrats. 622 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 1: First of all, it is worth pointing out there, Oh 623 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 1: it's chaos, and it's not chaos. Everything's fine, No one is. 624 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: You know, we're not losing our ability to feed ourselves 625 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: as a country. The economy is not cratering because of this. 626 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 1: This is just something that is occurring right now in 627 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 1: the Congress and it'll all be fun. You know, there's 628 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: there's no reason for this. The people that want to 629 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 1: exaggerate the downside of it, I think, want business as usual, 630 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: and they want the system to just keep churning out 631 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 1: massive omnibus bills and spend trillions of dollars of money 632 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 1: that we don't have. And that's just not acceptable anymore. 633 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, Buck, I'm not Actually Tomorrow 634 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: is the second anniversary of January sixth, right, and we 635 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,320 Speaker 1: all know that Democrats have tried to turn January sixth, 636 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: then to Pearl Harbor into nine to eleven, into the 637 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: Civil War. I don't know that it's a bad thing 638 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 1: for all of the attention to be on the speaker 639 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 1: vote going on as opposed to the anniversary celebration of 640 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: January sixth, which the Biden administration would love to marinate in, 641 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,879 Speaker 1: because there are a lot of people out there who 642 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: still believe in their base that January sixth is the 643 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 1: worst thing to happen to America since the Civil War. 644 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: I mean, they've tried to convince people of that, and 645 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:56,839 Speaker 1: there are some in their base who believe it. So 646 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 1: I don't know that I think it is a bad 647 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 1: situation at this point for this too, for this to 648 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 1: continue for another day, and certainly it doesn't seem like 649 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 1: we're any closer to getting a speaker officially announced today. 650 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 1: A lot of politics is argument. A lot of politics 651 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,839 Speaker 1: is people making the case. And what's happening right now 652 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 1: is people are arguing and they're making their cases. And 653 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 1: this is all within this system. To your point, Clay 654 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 1: about you know, how they're gonna make up such a 655 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 1: big deal out of January sixth, none of this is 656 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: breaking the rules. None of what is happening here is 657 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,400 Speaker 1: outside the scope of what members of Congress or doing. 658 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,280 Speaker 1: This is what I mean by you know, some folks 659 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: need to just calm down. It's gonna be fine. We're 660 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,839 Speaker 1: gonna figure this out. And I think, look, he left 661 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,320 Speaker 1: it open there. I think that the way this who knows, 662 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 1: but the way this ends up is that you have 663 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 1: the freedom caucus members get some real, you know, a 664 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,359 Speaker 1: real list of concessions that they think will create accountability 665 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,760 Speaker 1: with McCarthy and at that face. But I could be wrong. 666 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 1: Maybe Byron Donalds ends up being the guy and they 667 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: pull this off. I don't know. It is funny to 668 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 1: me and I'll just come back to this, which we 669 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,359 Speaker 1: said earlier, that all of the people out there who 670 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:05,879 Speaker 1: are arguing Republicans really need to have a fight internally 671 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 1: to figure out what the future of their party's going 672 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 1: to be. Right. That's how all the the left wingers 673 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 1: and all the anti Trumpers and everybody else would lecture 674 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:18,439 Speaker 1: us constantly fighting. Yeah, and then it happens and they're like, oh, 675 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 1: look how disorganized they are. They don't agree on everything. 676 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 1: Remember for how long have you heard, Oh, there's no 677 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,759 Speaker 1: spine in the Republican Party. Whatever Donald Trump tells them 678 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 1: to do, they do. And Trump said, hey, I what 679 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: McCarthy and all these Republicans said, yeah, we're not going 680 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,320 Speaker 1: to do it. And now it's oh, look at the disloyalty, 681 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: look at the lack of of of of ability to 682 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 1: come to a conclusion. Now, this is sometimes how democracy works. 683 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: It's messages the game. You know, we don't need everybody 684 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 1: in Congress on our own side being so chummy all 685 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,360 Speaker 1: the time. You know, maybe sometimes even in a pickup 686 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 1: basketball game, you gotta throw some elbows. I think what 687 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 1: happened really is that McCarthy thought that these twenty would 688 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,320 Speaker 1: not stick to it. And he said, we're going to 689 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 1: put them on the record. Then we'll see if they 690 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 1: do it. And they did it, and so far nothing 691 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 1: is moved, and we'll see what happens going forward. 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The seventh vote now underway, and as we said, 716 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 1: Kevin McCarthy is not going to get two hundred and 717 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 1: eighteen votes in Matt tally as well, we will see 718 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 1: whether any of the twenty that had been opposing him 719 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 1: are going to move off of that opposition, or where 720 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 1: we are, whether we are still effectively in a log 721 00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 1: jam situation with roughly two hundred voting in favor of 722 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 1: him to be speaker and around twenty voting against him 723 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 1: being speaker. But I tease this, the details are now 724 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,840 Speaker 1: coming out on the Brian Coburger. I think I'm pronouncing 725 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 1: that name last name correctly. I'm not one hundred percent sure, 726 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 1: but he is the Washington State teacher assistant PhD student 727 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 1: who has been arrested and charged with the quadruple murder 728 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 1: at the University of Idaho, and the details now on 729 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,880 Speaker 1: the evidence for why he has been charged are coming out, 730 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,359 Speaker 1: and I wanted to share some of these details because 731 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 1: we've talked about this case quite a lot, and I 732 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 1: know many of you have been following it aggressively and frankly, 733 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 1: some of these details are chilling and they actually raise 734 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:49,280 Speaker 1: even more issues. So and we're reading right now from TMZ. 735 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 1: The DNA was found of the killer Kolburger on a 736 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 1: knife sheath at the scene of the Idaho murder. They 737 00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 1: then made a match on that DNA by going through 738 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 1: trash at his family's house and they say finding his 739 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:08,840 Speaker 1: dad's DNA which confirmed that there was that connection with Brian. 740 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 1: This is according to the arrest warrant. And he was 741 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 1: driving if you remember this Jundai Elantra, the white car, 742 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,840 Speaker 1: and on the day of the murders, there were several 743 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 1: videos showing that white Elantra driving by the murder house 744 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:31,359 Speaker 1: before stopping at four oh four am, and then surveillance 745 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 1: video shows the car leaving at four twenty am at 746 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 1: a high rate of speed, and they also some other 747 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:44,919 Speaker 1: details here. The one that I think is the most staggering. 748 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 1: One of the survivors in this house, one of the 749 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 1: two women on the first floor, says she saw a 750 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 1: man five ten or taller, not very muscular, but athlete, 751 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:05,800 Speaker 1: medically built, with bushy eyebrows, wearing black clothing with a mask. 752 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,719 Speaker 1: She said the man walked right past her as she 753 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:15,160 Speaker 1: stood in a frozen shock phase, walked past her and 754 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:23,280 Speaker 1: left the house. Buck, this is crazy. Now, he turned 755 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,840 Speaker 1: off his cell phone. Some of you have been asking, hey, 756 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,880 Speaker 1: why would there not be cell phone records two forty 757 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 1: seven am, phone left his residence and didn't pick up 758 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,319 Speaker 1: again until five thirty AM. So he turned his phone off. 759 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,240 Speaker 1: But as all these details come out, Buck, he'd also 760 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:43,080 Speaker 1: been twelve times based on cell phone data, close to 761 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 1: this house late at NAP, which suggests that he may 762 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 1: have been stalking one or more of the people in 763 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 1: this house. But if anything, I can't get past the 764 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,359 Speaker 1: idea that this person would have seen someone and then 765 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,799 Speaker 1: not called police when that happened. There has to be 766 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,239 Speaker 1: something that we don't know. One thing, and I want 767 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,440 Speaker 1: to return to that because I I read through this 768 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 1: update on the case as well, and thought to myself, 769 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 1: you see a mask stranger at what was it for 770 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,440 Speaker 1: four o'clock in the morning or something in the hallway 771 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,720 Speaker 1: of your house, and you don't think that's a problem 772 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,839 Speaker 1: that you would call you first of all, check on 773 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 1: your roommates. You you wouldn't. You wouldn't scream, You wouldn't 774 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 1: check on your roommates, You wouldn't call it police. Now, 775 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 1: there may be something that I'm missing here. I can't 776 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 1: imagine what that would be, but you know, I don't know. 777 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,960 Speaker 1: Um Also, I also think it's killing her buck Like, 778 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,839 Speaker 1: if you've already killed four people and somebody sees you, 779 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 1: I wouldn't think you'd be like, well, you know, I 780 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,080 Speaker 1: can't kill five people, I think because he you know, 781 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,839 Speaker 1: killing somebody with a knife if they're if they're trying 782 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 1: to defend themselves, they're standing up, is not is a 783 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,960 Speaker 1: lot harder, obviously than stabbing somebody in their sleep, which 784 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 1: is what this guy did. He come four people in 785 00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:58,800 Speaker 1: their sleep, so maybe he didn't want to. And obviously 786 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,719 Speaker 1: if he if he had on after with a knife, 787 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,479 Speaker 1: I'd assume she would have screamed. She might have woken 788 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:07,359 Speaker 1: up neighbors, it sounds almost like this person the survivor. Look, 789 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:08,719 Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to speculate, I don't know, 790 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,640 Speaker 1: but like was she in in a sleep state or 791 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,719 Speaker 1: was she not really straight? Thing is bizarre. But on 792 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,960 Speaker 1: the law enforcement side of this, I say, remember we 793 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,920 Speaker 1: talked about this, We had Nancy Grace on this all happened, 794 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,480 Speaker 1: what was it, November thirteenth of last year. Here we 795 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 1: are now January fifth. There were no details about this 796 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,359 Speaker 1: at all for weeks. Yeah, there were people who were 797 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:38,720 Speaker 1: sincerely concerned that the police had boxed the investigation. That relieved. 798 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:40,960 Speaker 1: It turns out now that we see this, they have 799 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,960 Speaker 1: this guy in custody that the cops did a very 800 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:48,279 Speaker 1: good job of keeping it very when we raised this 801 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 1: as a possibility. Maybe there's a lot they're just not 802 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 1: letting out there. They don't want to to give any 803 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:58,879 Speaker 1: indication to the suspect that they're onto him. They knew, 804 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,359 Speaker 1: they knew a lot. I mean the fact that they 805 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,160 Speaker 1: had a sheath, They had a sheath for a knife 806 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,880 Speaker 1: at the scene with DNA, they had an eyewitness to 807 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 1: the individual knife. He did have a mask on another 808 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,960 Speaker 1: This is a side note, but I've always said there's 809 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,280 Speaker 1: a lot of reasons why I pose masks. The widespread 810 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 1: wearing of masks actually makes us all less safe to 811 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 1: this notion that people can go around. Then, you know, 812 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,360 Speaker 1: if someone walks into a bank with a ski mask 813 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,840 Speaker 1: on and it's seventy degrees outside, you think yourself, something 814 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,279 Speaker 1: weird's happening here. Someone goes in with one of these, 815 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,239 Speaker 1: you know, and ninety five masks on. Because of COVID anyway, 816 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 1: the cops knew a lot more about this than they 817 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 1: were letting on, which is obviously a good thing. They've 818 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,799 Speaker 1: got an individual who I mean, you know, innocent until 819 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:46,279 Speaker 1: proven guilty. This guy looks about as guilty as you're 820 00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,759 Speaker 1: going to find anybody at this stage of an investigation, 821 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:52,399 Speaker 1: given the DNA evidence at the scene. No explanation for this, 822 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,360 Speaker 1: everything we know about him. He apparently also at the 823 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:59,359 Speaker 1: bottom of this of this article, Clay he applied for 824 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 1: an internship with the Pullman. I guess suppose Pullman, Idaho 825 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:10,960 Speaker 1: Police Department. Pullman, Washington. We're Washington than Washington State is 826 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:15,400 Speaker 1: like ten miles yeah, yeah, university in the fall of 827 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:21,400 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. So this guy's studying what criminology and 828 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:25,320 Speaker 1: applying for police department internships, and now he's in custody 829 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 1: for a just truly heinous quadruple murder um. But a 830 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,800 Speaker 1: lot of the the techniques that you and I talked about, 831 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:39,120 Speaker 1: cell phone tracking, DNA, this is this is how they get. 832 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,000 Speaker 1: This how they get people. This is how they are 833 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,880 Speaker 1: able to get, you know, get the suspects and and 834 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,879 Speaker 1: bring people to some some measure of justice. Not only 835 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:52,239 Speaker 1: that buck, he was at TA. Can you imagine the 836 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:56,160 Speaker 1: conversations like the way we're talking about it, if you 837 00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,719 Speaker 1: went to Washington State, everybody had to be talking about 838 00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:03,520 Speaker 1: those murders of the Idaho students all the time, probably 839 00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:07,480 Speaker 1: with him. If you're in a criminology department, I would 840 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,359 Speaker 1: imagine that this was the number one topic by far. 841 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,600 Speaker 1: You're studying criminology and ten or fifteen miles from campus, 842 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,640 Speaker 1: four people are murdered and they can't figure out who 843 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:21,279 Speaker 1: did it. He had to be I would love to 844 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,040 Speaker 1: know from inside of Washington State. He had to be 845 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:29,160 Speaker 1: either with his students or with his colleagues talking about 846 00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,680 Speaker 1: this murder all the time you have committed it. You 847 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:35,480 Speaker 1: think this guy was speculating about the murderers among students 848 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,920 Speaker 1: in an auditorium or whatever this setup would be at 849 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,719 Speaker 1: his school. I think it's gonna be a chilling Yes, 850 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:43,759 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be super chilling as more and 851 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,400 Speaker 1: more evidence comes out, because just think about it, if 852 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,960 Speaker 1: you're a college kid at Washington State and you're in 853 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,240 Speaker 1: a criminology course, this is one of the top stories 854 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,320 Speaker 1: in America for people who are just living their normal lives. 855 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,560 Speaker 1: For a criminology course, to have a murder like this 856 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:03,600 Speaker 1: happened just a few miles from campus is unbelievable to occur. 857 00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,759 Speaker 1: The other thing we should mention Buck is they pulled over. 858 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:08,160 Speaker 1: And by the way, if you want to call in 859 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 1: and react to this, we took calls before eight hundred 860 00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,279 Speaker 1: two eight two two eight eight two. Maybe you're in 861 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,920 Speaker 1: that area and you even interacted with this guy in 862 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,560 Speaker 1: some way. Now that we know who the alleged murderer is, 863 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:21,719 Speaker 1: if you want to share your story, I mean, like 864 00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,040 Speaker 1: I'm talking about, if you're on that Washington State campus, 865 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,200 Speaker 1: if you're at the University of Idaho, if you knew 866 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,440 Speaker 1: this guy, I would love to hear what those interactions 867 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:32,000 Speaker 1: were like. But Buck, they had the FBI pull him 868 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:37,560 Speaker 1: over in Indiana reportedly because they wanted to see his hands, 869 00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,840 Speaker 1: because he drove with his dad back cross country to 870 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,919 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania for the winter break, and the report is out 871 00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,000 Speaker 1: there that they wanted to see whether there were any 872 00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,960 Speaker 1: injuries to his hands, so they pulled him over for 873 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,880 Speaker 1: speeding in Indiana at the behest of the FBI, and 874 00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:59,360 Speaker 1: those injuries I would assume would have been suffered. You 875 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,240 Speaker 1: did those those cuts to his hands from the knife 876 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,239 Speaker 1: slipping most likely that's what Actually, people don't think about that, 877 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,160 Speaker 1: but especially if it's a uh and I don't think 878 00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,279 Speaker 1: we haven't. They haven't seen them reporting, right, they haven't 879 00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,640 Speaker 1: seen the murder weapon. But if it's let's say, uh, 880 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,799 Speaker 1: you know, a standard kitchen knife that's not meant for 881 00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:20,000 Speaker 1: the you know for it's not a combat knife, so 882 00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,320 Speaker 1: your hand can slip down the handle very easily and 883 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,880 Speaker 1: get and you can get cuts on your hand from that, 884 00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,040 Speaker 1: which I think is what they're looking for. Because I 885 00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,400 Speaker 1: didn't see anything about their belief that there were there 886 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,439 Speaker 1: would be defensive wounds from the victims, specific on his hands, 887 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:34,960 Speaker 1: especially if they were asleep. I don't think you would 888 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,839 Speaker 1: expect it really would be any defensive wounds or very 889 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:41,120 Speaker 1: minimal defensive wounds, so, um, you know, or are certainly 890 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:45,160 Speaker 1: no wounds on the aggressor either, um, I think Clay also, 891 00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,640 Speaker 1: the white Junde Ilantra came into play here, right, Yeah, 892 00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,640 Speaker 1: they been reporting about that. Yeah, they were able to 893 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:54,920 Speaker 1: track it. Um and again they saw the car pass 894 00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,680 Speaker 1: in the four am hour multiple times, including driving away 895 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,200 Speaker 1: from that air he at a high rate of speed. 896 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,240 Speaker 1: You think we don't know just based on the fact pattern, 897 00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,960 Speaker 1: the fact that there was, it seems like at a 898 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,640 Speaker 1: minimum surveillance, right It's it would be surveillance of his 899 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:17,160 Speaker 1: intended victims. But you mentioned the word stalking. I mean 900 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,799 Speaker 1: to me, that implies the stalking might imply that he 901 00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,360 Speaker 1: knew one of the at least one of them. Do 902 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,640 Speaker 1: you know, I just you know, I don't know. I'm 903 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,640 Speaker 1: just do you think right now, there's a part of 904 00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:33,280 Speaker 1: it it feels like it's hard to believe it's that random, 905 00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,840 Speaker 1: given given the fact pattern. I I think we're going 906 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:38,720 Speaker 1: to find out that he knew one of the victims 907 00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,880 Speaker 1: in some capacity, or or was maybe obsessed with one 908 00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:43,600 Speaker 1: of the victims in some capacity, that it wasn't just 909 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:47,239 Speaker 1: a totally random serial killer situation. That makes some sense 910 00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,799 Speaker 1: to me and even buck, Like, when I saw this 911 00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,759 Speaker 1: guy and when I've been reading the details about him 912 00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,560 Speaker 1: from high school in college, he seems like a guy 913 00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,600 Speaker 1: who had a lot of troubles. This is not going 914 00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,680 Speaker 1: to rise people typically unfortunately in stories like these with 915 00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:04,920 Speaker 1: women in general, right, Like, he wasn't the kind of 916 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:08,000 Speaker 1: guy who got along well with women. It wouldn't stun 917 00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,480 Speaker 1: me if we find out that he liked one of 918 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,719 Speaker 1: these girls, was out at a bar, hit on her 919 00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,000 Speaker 1: and like she gave him a cold shoulder or something 920 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,120 Speaker 1: like that, and he became obsessed with her from that 921 00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:23,440 Speaker 1: point going forward. The other thing that I think is 922 00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:28,200 Speaker 1: going to loom here large is frankly, was this the 923 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:32,440 Speaker 1: first that it has no record? Right? It seems stunning 924 00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:36,160 Speaker 1: to me that the first ever crime you would commit 925 00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:40,600 Speaker 1: would be a quadruple murder. Are we going to find 926 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,640 Speaker 1: out that is this guy has traversed the country that 927 00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:47,319 Speaker 1: maybe he's connected to some other crimes of violence and 928 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,600 Speaker 1: gotten away with them before. Does that make sense? Like, 929 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:55,479 Speaker 1: it's very rare from a criminology perspective for a guy 930 00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:59,799 Speaker 1: to just suddenly snap and commit a quadruple murder and 931 00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:03,480 Speaker 1: he's never broken the law before in a serious way. 932 00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,200 Speaker 1: Usually you find out in these cases, as we all 933 00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,760 Speaker 1: know just from you know series like a Mine Hunter 934 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:14,320 Speaker 1: and these true crime and true detective series, that there's 935 00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:19,440 Speaker 1: at least a very common thing is violence against violence 936 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:23,480 Speaker 1: against animals at a young age, you know, torturing of animals, 937 00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:27,840 Speaker 1: things like that. You know, there's usually a backstory to it. 938 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:29,520 Speaker 1: We haven't seen much of that yet, but I think 939 00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,919 Speaker 1: you're right. We'll find out that this was not this 940 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,080 Speaker 1: was not out of nowhere. And the one other thing 941 00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:35,960 Speaker 1: I would add, and again we'll take some calls on this, 942 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:37,960 Speaker 1: because I know there was a great deal of interest 943 00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,920 Speaker 1: on this. I would think now that they found the 944 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,000 Speaker 1: HONDEI a Lantra buck, that it would be virtually impossible 945 00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:47,400 Speaker 1: for their not to be murder residue in some way 946 00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,560 Speaker 1: inside of that car, presuming that he committed a quadruple 947 00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,640 Speaker 1: murder and then left and got in that vehicle, no 948 00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:57,160 Speaker 1: matter how much he tried to clean it, I would 949 00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:00,520 Speaker 1: think that there would be some blood residue to some 950 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,920 Speaker 1: DNA that would still be there. Not to mention, he 951 00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,240 Speaker 1: had to get rid of this knife somehow, and wherever 952 00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:10,400 Speaker 1: this knife is, whether they're able to retain it or 953 00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,879 Speaker 1: not just carrying that knife in the car, and all 954 00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:17,080 Speaker 1: these things would also create I would think a lot 955 00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:20,520 Speaker 1: of DNA evidence. And if you remember, remember, did you 956 00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:21,920 Speaker 1: watch I'm sure you did back in the day on 957 00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,879 Speaker 1: Netflix Making a Murderer when everybody was watching that show. 958 00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:28,400 Speaker 1: Did you watch it? I actually saw a few episodes 959 00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,000 Speaker 1: of it. I don't see all of it. One of 960 00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:34,680 Speaker 1: the parts in there that is incredibly detailed is alleged 961 00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:39,080 Speaker 1: blood evidence on a car that was very old, you know, 962 00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,360 Speaker 1: in general, but the idea that he would have been 963 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,720 Speaker 1: able to commit a quadruple murder get in that Hondai 964 00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,760 Speaker 1: a Lantra and not have led to left behind tons 965 00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:52,759 Speaker 1: of evidence I think is very unlikely as well. We'll 966 00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:56,040 Speaker 1: have more for you on this. Also. The House speaker 967 00:54:56,280 --> 00:55:00,360 Speaker 1: vote switching gears here to politics of Capitol Hill. They 968 00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:05,360 Speaker 1: are moving on to their eighth eighth ballot. It keeps 969 00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,799 Speaker 1: going on, folks. We'll tell you where this is heading 970 00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,560 Speaker 1: and what's happening in a moment. I'm always thinking though 971 00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:12,560 Speaker 1: about what this economy is gonna look like this year. 972 00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,680 Speaker 1: I'm sure you are too. With the cost of gas 973 00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,200 Speaker 1: and food and rent, and the way inflation it's just 974 00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,040 Speaker 1: wreaking havoc on things. 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From 991 00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:23,759 Speaker 1: the front lines of Freedom and Truth, Clay Travis and 992 00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:36,880 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton playing bucket with more breaking news today as 993 00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,680 Speaker 1: and It's good news. We've talked about some very heavy 994 00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:41,680 Speaker 1: stuff in the last hour here, but we've got some 995 00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:46,719 Speaker 1: good news to share with you that DeMar Hamlin is, 996 00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,840 Speaker 1: according to his doctors who are currently giving a press 997 00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:55,600 Speaker 1: conference in Cincinnati, that DeMar Hamlin has made up to 998 00:56:55,640 --> 00:57:00,279 Speaker 1: this point a strong recovery given the cardiac arrest that 999 00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:04,319 Speaker 1: he suffered on the field during the football game on 1000 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:10,520 Speaker 1: Monday night. And Damar Hamlin is showing that neurological function 1001 00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:14,960 Speaker 1: is okay. And you know, there's still there's still some 1002 00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:19,560 Speaker 1: additional steps here before I think they can give the 1003 00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:24,240 Speaker 1: full recovery and an all clear sign. But Clay, from 1004 00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:29,120 Speaker 1: what I'm hearing here from these doctors, Damar Hamlin's prognosis 1005 00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:32,680 Speaker 1: is good and he is out of the acute danger 1006 00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:36,680 Speaker 1: phase of this situation. Yeah, this is a great story. Buck. 1007 00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:41,240 Speaker 1: The doctors say they've been communicating with him through written 1008 00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:46,000 Speaker 1: communication because he still has I believe a breathing tube 1009 00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:49,560 Speaker 1: in some way. One of the first things is, according 1010 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,400 Speaker 1: to his doctors, one of the first things he asked 1011 00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:56,840 Speaker 1: as they began communicating was who won the game? And 1012 00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:00,280 Speaker 1: for anyone out there who is a sports fan to 1013 00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:02,840 Speaker 1: think about, you know, Damar Hamlin, who's on the Buffalo 1014 00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,600 Speaker 1: Bills playing in this big game against the Cincinnati Bengals, 1015 00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:11,000 Speaker 1: has been basically out of touch for since Monday, right 1016 00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:14,440 Speaker 1: forty eight hours plus, And one of the first things 1017 00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:18,720 Speaker 1: he says is who won the game? And I just 1018 00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:22,440 Speaker 1: think for all of you out there who are sports fans, 1019 00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:24,440 Speaker 1: that is just First of all, it's a sign that 1020 00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:30,000 Speaker 1: his brain is working well, right, but that so many 1021 00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:34,360 Speaker 1: of you who have committed a competed in athletics and 1022 00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:38,600 Speaker 1: have been members of teams, that is just I mean, 1023 00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:42,720 Speaker 1: it's going that is going to become an iconic phrase. 1024 00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,600 Speaker 1: I'm just predicting right now, buck the who won the game? 1025 00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,080 Speaker 1: For a guy who went through this, the trauma and 1026 00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,320 Speaker 1: for so many people. And again I wanted to talk 1027 00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:55,720 Speaker 1: about the positive here, which was over seven million dollars 1028 00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:59,560 Speaker 1: raised for this guy's charity to go towards presence and 1029 00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:04,160 Speaker 1: every thing else. But that is a very heartwarming story 1030 00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:08,240 Speaker 1: to have a resolution for Right now, again in real time, 1031 00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:11,720 Speaker 1: his doctors updating his condition. We've been waiting for this. 1032 00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:15,240 Speaker 1: It's be seventy two hours, I believe, come this evening 1033 00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:18,240 Speaker 1: since he collapsed on the field, and the NFL now 1034 00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:21,320 Speaker 1: determining what exactly needs to happen, and let's be honest 1035 00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,479 Speaker 1: to buck. The other part of this story that still 1036 00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:26,800 Speaker 1: needs to be resolved is why did he collapse? As 1037 00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:31,160 Speaker 1: they go back through and kind of examine what exactly 1038 00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:35,400 Speaker 1: happened with his heart condition, what caused this, why did 1039 00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:37,760 Speaker 1: it occur? Is going to be a big deal because 1040 00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,200 Speaker 1: you want to try to hopefully never have this happen 1041 00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:42,480 Speaker 1: on the field again. And and and on the one hand, 1042 00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:46,160 Speaker 1: you know, you have people that were initially, you know, 1043 00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:50,480 Speaker 1: very insistent that we already know what this is. You 1044 00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:52,800 Speaker 1: saw that. I'm sure that there were people who were 1045 00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:56,240 Speaker 1: putting out their their diagnosis one way or the other. 1046 00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:59,440 Speaker 1: But you also have others now who are saying, well, 1047 01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:01,600 Speaker 1: we have to take a look at football and look 1048 01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,720 Speaker 1: at safety and look at the issues involved. You can't 1049 01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:08,680 Speaker 1: really understand the safety implications one way or the other 1050 01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:13,640 Speaker 1: unless you know exactly what the medical diagnosis here is 1051 01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,960 Speaker 1: of what happened. So I think that's an important part 1052 01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:20,080 Speaker 1: of this because there's already a conversation and there are 1053 01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:23,440 Speaker 1: people who are having I think there's the serious individuals 1054 01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,320 Speaker 1: who are saying, hey, you know, is there anything that 1055 01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:27,880 Speaker 1: can be done here. You know, I've seen people saying 1056 01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,520 Speaker 1: we need to change the pads or whatever it may be. 1057 01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:32,440 Speaker 1: I don't know very much about football, Clay, you know 1058 01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:36,440 Speaker 1: a lot more. And then there's of course the kind 1059 01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,560 Speaker 1: of usual suspects in the media sphere who are just 1060 01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:44,000 Speaker 1: saying football scary and bad and dangerous and including a 1061 01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,760 Speaker 1: testosterone and all that stuff are good for enjoy. Behar 1062 01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,680 Speaker 1: who is the dumbest person probably in all of media. 1063 01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:52,720 Speaker 1: Yesterday I called her the dumbest woman. I want to 1064 01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,560 Speaker 1: apologize to women. She's the dumbest person in all of 1065 01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:59,720 Speaker 1: media that I on a daily show. Anyway. She basically 1066 01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:02,960 Speaker 1: say you shouldn't be able to play football. And this 1067 01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:06,320 Speaker 1: is this is a natural growth of where the left 1068 01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:08,280 Speaker 1: wing is going to go. We have it, you want 1069 01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:12,160 Speaker 1: to hear it. Here's what you s Americans think that 1070 01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:17,880 Speaker 1: tackle football is appropriate. Heterosexual men voted the most support 1071 01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:22,800 Speaker 1: for kids doing football, and conservatives were more likely to 1072 01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:28,120 Speaker 1: support youth tackle football, just saying yeah, this is I 1073 01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:32,240 Speaker 1: hope democrats follow down this path. They are crazy. I 1074 01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:35,680 Speaker 1: hope buck that they come after football because I think 1075 01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:38,400 Speaker 1: there are a lot And first of all, saying heterosexual 1076 01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,040 Speaker 1: men and conservatives are big, like, there are a lot 1077 01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:43,520 Speaker 1: of people who are huge football fans that don't know 1078 01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:46,959 Speaker 1: anything about politics right, legitimately don't care at all. In fact, 1079 01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:53,160 Speaker 1: that's probably a hugs. But I hope I hope that 1080 01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:55,800 Speaker 1: the idiots like Joey Behard lead this charge, because this 1081 01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:59,560 Speaker 1: is what's going on. Football is hypermasculine, Buck, it is uh, 1082 01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:02,960 Speaker 1: it is a pro America, it's religious in general. That's 1083 01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:04,959 Speaker 1: why I'm fighting for it. I hope they're this dumb. 1084 01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:06,960 Speaker 1: I hope they It's not gonna She's not. There's not 1085 01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:09,120 Speaker 1: gonna be a charge. Everyone's looking at Joy Behar like, 1086 01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:12,520 Speaker 1: let's just pretend that didn't happen. Joy, Yeah, let's let's 1087 01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:18,480 Speaker 1: move on to something else. Play Travis and Buck Sexton 1088 01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:21,280 Speaker 1: on the front lines of truth.