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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. The future the quarterbacking position was on display

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Speaker 1: yesterday in Arizona. I love this matchup Kyler Murray against

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Speaker 1: Tuatonga Violoa and they're two of the more exciting players

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. Now, this is the second season for

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Speaker 1: Murray and I think we were pushing for that MVP

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Speaker 1: candidacy along with Josh Allen and Buffalo. And you know,

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Speaker 1: he's in his second season. He's in that conversation. Tuah

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Speaker 1: is in his second start in the NFL and Murray

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Speaker 1: looked great through for three hundred, rush for over one hundred.

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Speaker 1: Miami came out on top, and you can't help but

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Speaker 1: notice that these aren't your traditional quarterbacks. They're short for

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Speaker 1: their position, and they're riding a wave of similar style

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Speaker 1: and size quarterbacks. This goes back to Drew Brees. Actually

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Speaker 1: it goes back to Fran Tarkington. Fran Tarkington was probably

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Speaker 1: five ten, played for the Vikings, played for the Giants.

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Speaker 1: He threw for three hundred and ten touchdowns. I think

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Speaker 1: in his over three hundred touchdowns, and if you watched him,

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Speaker 1: you would have thought there's no way that he's going

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Speaker 1: to be able to survive in the NFL. But he

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Speaker 1: was a scrambler. He didn't run for yards. He kept

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Speaker 1: plays alive. And I always thought about that when Breeze

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Speaker 1: came in. He came out of a Joe Tiller offense

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Speaker 1: at Purdue. That was a spread offense, and he was

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Speaker 1: lighting up the big ten. But he was not tall

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Speaker 1: and went in a second round. And then because Breeze's success,

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson got a shot, and now Baker Mayfield got

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Speaker 1: a shot, went number one overall. Now you have Murray.

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Speaker 1: Now you have two in there, young players who probably

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Speaker 1: thought I'm not going to be able to play that position,

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Speaker 1: and now they get a chance. And when you watch,

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Speaker 1: you know Murray and two are not the same. Guy.

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Speaker 1: Murray is mobile. He's the fastest quarterback in the league.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess him. And Lamar Kyler's probably the quickest,

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Speaker 1: that's for sure. And two I had some runs yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you should learn to slide to uh. But they're

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Speaker 1: fun to watch. That was great as we redefined the

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Speaker 1: quarterbacking position. It was on display yesterday. There are losses.

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Speaker 1: There are good losses, sometimes there are bad losses, and

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Speaker 1: then there are devastating losses. Tampa Bay Buccaneers fall into

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Speaker 1: that last category. National TV at home. You'd already lost

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Speaker 1: to the Saints to start the season. You were on

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Speaker 1: a roll. Brady and Antonio Brown, the defense was getting credit,

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Speaker 1: the offensive lines getting credit. Everybody's talking Tampa, they'll be

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Speaker 1: hosting the super Bowl. And then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: the Saints just rolled them. It's rare when you watch

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Speaker 1: a Tom Brady game and you go, this isn't competitive.

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Speaker 1: We might say it when it's the other way around.

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Speaker 1: There was no comeback. There was no Hey, twenty eight

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Speaker 1: to three, we're coming back. Twenty eighth to nothing, you're

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Speaker 1: not coming back. But that was a devastating loss yesterday.

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Speaker 1: That's one of those that kind of stays with your

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Speaker 1: psyche a little bit longer, like, Wow, when you get

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Speaker 1: pressure on Brady, you beat Brady. If you don't get

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Speaker 1: pressure on him, you're not going to beat him. The

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Speaker 1: Saints put pressure on him, got to him a couple

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Speaker 1: of times. I don't know whose fault it is with

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Speaker 1: some of the interceptions, you know, want it looked like

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Speaker 1: receiver stopped, but still he did not look comfortable at all.

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Speaker 1: Here's Brady after the loss last night. Turning the ball

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Speaker 1: over against a good team never helps, you know, we

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Speaker 1: just didn't play the way we're capable of. Plan. Everyone's

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Speaker 1: got to do a lot better, and it starts with

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Speaker 1: me and get back to work tomorrow morning and try

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Speaker 1: divisional rival the Saints would the win last night, Well,

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Speaker 1: he was in the AFC East, and chances are he

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Speaker 1: the East. But that was impressive. The Steelers are eight no.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know how good that eight no is

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Speaker 1: eight not for the first time in history. Their last

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Speaker 1: of those games the losing team had a chance to

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Speaker 1: win the game in the final minute. If I'm a

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Speaker 1: Dallas fan and I watched that game yesterday, you have

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Speaker 1: to go, why aren't we like this all the time?

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Speaker 1: Just competitive? That's it, just competitive. But Steelers pick up

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Speaker 1: know how good they are. But Patrick Mahomes to me,

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Speaker 1: is still the MVP. I mean, I think he would

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Speaker 1: up is I think we forget how great Patrick Mahomes is.

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Speaker 1: It's weird that was quickly, like after two years, we

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Speaker 1: got the new story. Was an old story, and that's

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. Now, we tried to get Kyler Murray in there,

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Speaker 1: and then you start to look at Mahomes and you go,

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Speaker 1: he's still pretty good. Yeah. Mclovin system quarterback. Yeah, his

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Speaker 1: own system. But he has thrown to guys who don't

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Speaker 1: the screen with Tyreek Hill, He's opened by twenty six yards.

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Speaker 1: I could have thrown two touchdowns yesterday in the Chiefs game.

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Speaker 1: I could have they were that wide open, I could

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Speaker 1: have thrown a twenty yard pass. If you say to

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Speaker 1: the offensive line was blocking, and he just threw two

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Speaker 1: touchdowns where I went, where's the defender? They were very simple,

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Speaker 1: but his numbers are spectacular. I still think that they're

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Speaker 1: better than last year. They haven't shown it yet this year,

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Speaker 1: which is scary for the NFL. Yeah, point on normal

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Speaker 1: timed roots. Tyreek Hill is not not a special wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: Once the play breaks and he decides I'm just going

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Speaker 1: to break a direction, he's uncoverable. It doesn't matter if

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Speaker 1: the best defensive back is with him, you can't cover him.

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Speaker 1: And when he zigzags, yeah, he's got weapons there. All

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Speaker 1: else fails. I mean, nobody has more weapons than Patrick

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Speaker 1: Mahomes does. But it feels like we exhausted that story.

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Speaker 1: Now we got to move on to another story. Notre

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Speaker 1: and as I mentioned, we'll talk to Brian Kelly, the

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame head coach. He'll join us coming up a

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Speaker 1: little bit later on. I was also looking at the

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Speaker 1: ages of the quarterbacks right now. Now there are nine

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Speaker 1: NFL teams with at least six wins. Of the nine teams,

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Speaker 1: four have a starting quarterback over the age of thirty

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Speaker 1: five Brady Breeze, Rogers, Roethlisberger. Of the nine, three have

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks age twenty five and younger Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 1: not going to have Roethlisberger, Breeze and Brady. And we're

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Speaker 1: ushering in a whole new NFL because of the rules,

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Speaker 1: the changes in the rules, and it's all offensive driven.

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Speaker 1: It's for fantasy, it's for gambling. And you're just seeing

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Speaker 1: these quarterbacks come in who are able to keep a

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Speaker 1: play alive, dual threats, not afraid. You know, Tua wasn't

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Speaker 1: afraid of the big moment there, that's his second start, Yes,

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Speaker 1: but can this last? These I saw Lamar Jackson take

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Speaker 1: two hits that were gigantic yesterday. How do these guys

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Speaker 1: gonna have ten year careers if they run this much? Well,

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Speaker 1: you run, but you slide, You run, but you get

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Speaker 1: and hurt you. Though. Well, it feels like it'll be

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Speaker 1: next man up when it comes to these quarterbacks, because

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Speaker 1: you've got another wave coming in and you got four quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: maybe five quarterbacks will be taken in the first round,

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Speaker 1: and you got one that's a sure thing. Trevor Lawrence,

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Speaker 1: Justin Fields appears to be Zach Wilson, A BYU, come

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Speaker 1: on down, Kyle Trask at Florida, Trey Lance at North

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Speaker 1: Dakota State. These guys are ready, They're ready to go.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Jordan's Love can play, but Green

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Speaker 1: Bay thinks he can. It's come on in and get

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Speaker 1: Mariota lost his They want to know right now. The

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Speaker 1: They want to know because these quarterbacks are ready to

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Speaker 1: of this, Oh you're not tall enough, You're not this,

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Speaker 1: You're not that. I will say this. When I watched Tua,

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Speaker 1: what does it look like? He tries really really hard

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Speaker 1: energy is in those throws. And I started to wonder

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Speaker 1: about this. Steve Young didn't have a great arm. Jim

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Speaker 1: Zorne was not a big arm guy. These left handed quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: maybe it's something about them. I don't know. If Chris Simms,

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Speaker 1: that yesterday, I'm thinking, man is too of putting every bit.

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Speaker 1: You know, when you watched Al Lighter pitch and when

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Speaker 1: it looks like he takes his whole body and puts

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Speaker 1: a huge wind up. Yeah. Yeah, he puts a whole

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Speaker 1: lot into it. But that was that's that's a big win.

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Speaker 1: That's an impressive win to go there and beat that

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Speaker 1: question to start with that I can maybe a pose

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Speaker 1: to Chris Simms. Okay, we have a poll question. There's

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Speaker 1: actually more from PAULI. Okay, what was the biggest Well, actually,

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Speaker 1: which team took the biggest hit this weekend? Clemson, Michigan

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Speaker 1: losing to Indiana, the Bucks or the Seahawks losing to

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Speaker 1: the Bills. So the biggest hit the biggest loss this

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Speaker 1: weekend Clemson, Michigan, the Buccaneers or the Seahawnks. That right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a four we have. Now. You could add to

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Speaker 1: the list if you want, but those are the four

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Speaker 1: Chris Simms, Pro football TONK Live, co host on Peacock

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Speaker 1: NBC Sunday Night, foot analyst, who took the biggest hit

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Speaker 1: over the weekend out of that group, Well, okay, I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna I mean, Michigan. We knew Michigan was Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Against Indiana, well, I don't know. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: Football analyst. I was watching the Cowboys, and I don't

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Speaker 1: and had a chance to go on a run here

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Speaker 1: and they were in danger of putting themselves in Why

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Speaker 1: would we give up on Ryan Fitzpatrick. We're nine and three.

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00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 1: We're doing great, and I think they realized that might

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Speaker 1: have been an issue, and that's why they pulled the trigger.

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Speaker 1: As far as getting two in there, Dan, any chance

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Speaker 1: the Jets screw things up in win tonight, I don't

430
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Speaker 1: think so. I do think it'll be ugly, But you know,

431
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 1: the Jets offense is not good enough to take advantage

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00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 1: of the weakness of the Patriots, which is their run defense.

433
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 1: So I don't think that's a great like advantage Jets.

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00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna be able to throw the ball.

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00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,119
Speaker 1: Jets defense is a pain in the butt, as we know,

436
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:22,199
Speaker 1: but it's not real talented. And I think eventually that

437
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,119
Speaker 1: Patriots offense can run the ball in just about anybody,

438
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,640
Speaker 1: and they're just a little bit more talented to where

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00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 1: I think they win like a twenty four or sixteen,

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00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,919
Speaker 1: you know, twenty three fourteen type of game, Dan, what

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Speaker 1: are you thinking when you throw an interception or as

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00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: a quarterback and then you may have to tackle somebody

443
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Speaker 1: Philip Rivers. Philip Rivers didn't didn't have a good day yesterday.

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00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 1: You know, Peyton would famously just sort of fall down,

445
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,880
Speaker 1: and you know, like and I get that right, Andrew

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00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 1: Luck wanted to. One of the hardest hits I've ever

447
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 1: seen in college football was delivered by Andrew Luck in

448
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 1: a game where he threw an interception and he closed

449
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 1: on this guy and just annihilated him. Yeah. Well, I

450
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 1: mean he's built like a linebacker back in his college day,

451
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 1: so he had a different mindset than me. I know

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00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,919
Speaker 1: that for sure. All right. I mean to answer the

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00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 1: first part of the question. When you throw it, when

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Speaker 1: you throw an interception, you throw it, you see it,

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00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 1: and you just I can't believe that. I can't believe

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Speaker 1: the intercepted. I can't believe I threw it. Then he

457
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 1: starts to run around, and you start as a quarterback,

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00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 1: at least I did. I was like, come on, somebody

459
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 1: make the tackle. Somebody make the tack. And you're really

460
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: hoping somebody will make the tackle, and you're just staying

461
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Speaker 1: alive just to hope you don't have to do it,

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00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 1: and of course that time is gonna come where you're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to. At one point, I made a few

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Speaker 1: I think in my NFL career. Check and see if

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Speaker 1: Chris Simms has any tackles. Chris threw some interceptions, you know,

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Speaker 1: that no tackles, that's being smart protecting the brand. No,

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Speaker 1: you know what I did too. I think I got

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Speaker 1: two tackles actually on fumbles by the by the running

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Speaker 1: back where he fumbled. And now I'm there and like

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Speaker 1: I believe it was Frosty Rucker back in the day

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Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers. He picked up a fumble from Cadillac

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Speaker 1: Williams and he was running right at me, and I

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Speaker 1: was like, I don't know what to do. I just

474
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Speaker 1: know I'm not gonna win this. So I just got

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00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,199
Speaker 1: low and I let him run over me, and I

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00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 1: stuck up my hands and I just got hill trip.

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Speaker 1: He'll fall down, and he did. Good to check in

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Speaker 1: with you, Chris. Always great to talk to you. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: Thank you. See be good, guys, See everybody. That's Chris Sims,

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Speaker 1: Pro Football Talk Live co host on Peacock, NBC Sunday

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Speaker 1: Night football analyst. Be sure to catch the live edition

482
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 1: of The Dan Patrick Show week days at nine am

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Speaker 1: Eastern six am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the

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Speaker 1: iHeart Radio wapp. Ross Tucker, former NFL offensive lineman, of course,

485
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 1: hosts of the Ross Tucker Football Podcast Westwood One. NFL

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Speaker 1: analysts what do you make of what Tony Dunge you

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00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: just tweeted out about replay? Well, I feel like Dan,

488
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 1: they've done a better job the last couple of years

489
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: in terms of what it catches or is not. I

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00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:10,919
Speaker 1: feel like I have a little bit better of a

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00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 1: grasp of it. But there are always going to be

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00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,120
Speaker 1: cases that are very difficult. And when those cases come

493
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: on and you're not quite sure, it's tough to tell.

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Speaker 1: Then you keep the call on the field. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I don't like, Dan, And I

496
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: feel like I'm the old guy saying this that Notre

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00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: Dame Clemson game. And I know we're talking to NFL

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00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 1: right now, but we've gotten to the point where we're

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00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: replaying seven plays and like a ten minute. I mean,

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00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: I was so annoyed. I was. It kills the game.

501
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 1: It kills the flow of the game. I know we

502
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 1: want to get it right, but when we were replaying

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00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: seemingly every other play, I mean that game was like

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00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: five hours. Yeah, and overtime was brutal with the replace

505
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 1: just brutal, you know what. Let me start there. We

506
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: have Brian Kelly coming up top of the hour, more

507
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: likely to play in the national title game. Notre Dame

508
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: er Clemson Clemson, because even if they if they win

509
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: the rest of their games, they're gonna go. You know,

510
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: they're gonna get sort of the Trevor Lawrence didn't play Mulligan.

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00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: I still think they'll be one of the top four teams.

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00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 1: I still think they'll go. And while I was impressed

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Speaker 1: with some of the things that Nerd Dame did, I

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00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 1: just don't envision them being able to win back to

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00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,199
Speaker 1: back games against an Alabama type of team. You know,

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00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 1: Nerd Dame has more talent than they've had dan, but

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00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,959
Speaker 1: you can still see, like when the Clemson wide receivers

518
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,719
Speaker 1: are in open space or coverage, Notre Dame still doesn't

519
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: quite have the perimeter speed that the truly elite teams have.

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00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: They typically have a better O line, maybe even a

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00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 1: D line that's comparable, but they still don't quite have

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00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: the same level of overall depth and speed with the

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00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 1: skill kids. Let me talk about let me get to

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00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,719
Speaker 1: Jim Harball and then we'll go to the NFL. Because

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00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 1: I always thought Jim Harball was a college coach. I

526
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 1: just thought that he had fun. He was a raw,

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00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: raw corny. He could blend to an he could be

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00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 1: one of the guys and maybe not relatable in the NFL.

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00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 1: Now you get that sense or at least a little

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00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: bit of that sense of maybe the next job is

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00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: going to be in the NFL, not college football. What

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00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: do you make of that? I think it's likely, and

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00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: I think it's because he's never really been able to

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00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 1: solve the quarterback dilemma at Michigan. And the irony is right,

535
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: is that's why he got so much credit in the

536
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: first place. You go back to Josh Johnson University of

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00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: San Diego, Andrew Luck at Stanford. Then of course with

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00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, he resurrects Alex Smith's career, Colin Kaepernick,

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00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: all of that stuff. But yet at Michigan. I mean,

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00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: they've tried transfers, they've tried all kinds of guys. He

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00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: has not been able. And I actually think this kid,

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00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: Joe Milton, has a chance, but he has not been

543
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: able to get insistent performance from that position. And here's

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00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: the thing, Dan, it's not talent. I follow the recruiting

545
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: stuff closely. They recruit top ten recruiting class every year.

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00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: You look at the amount of guys they've had drafted.

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00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: The amount of guys that go to the Combine from Michigan,

548
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: it's fifteen twenty a year. I mean they're pumping out

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00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: a lot of talent. They just haven't quite been able

550
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: to get a quarterback that can play at a Trevor

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00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: Lawrence Justin Fields type of level. PAC twelve's playing at

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00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: nine am local time? How desperate is the PAC twelfth.

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00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: I don't understand this at all, Dan, I'm so glad

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00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: you brought this up. I think Paulie will be with

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00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: me on this one. I have said for years, Dan

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00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: that one of the Group of Five conferences or an

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00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: FCS conference, like you know, something like with Delaware, William

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00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: and Mary, you know Richmond, they should play at nine

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00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: am or at least ten am or eleven. Look, the

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00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: IVY League Game of the week, let's bring it back

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00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: to my dudes, the Ivy League Game of the week

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00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: every Saturday at nine am. You can't tell me that

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00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: there aren't people that wouldn't rather watch that than watch

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00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: the pregame shows. I think playing at nine am is fine.

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00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: I don't understand how it benefits the BACK twelve. I mean,

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00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: and they're playing at nine am on the West Coast. Well, okay,

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00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: that's nude on the East Coast, where there's already a

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00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: bunch of good ACC games, big ten games. I don't

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00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: really see how that benefits them. If I'm pack twelve,

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00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: I try to own maybe Friday night at nine o'clock,

571
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: Saturday night nine o'clock. I try to get the late window.

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00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: They're not gonna do any damage in the early window.

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00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: There should be an East Coast Conference though, either group

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00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: of five like the Sun Belt or an FCS that played,

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Speaker 1: or at least ten am. Even if you do ten am,

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00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: that's two hours where you would be the only game

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Speaker 1: on TV, and people still would prefer live sports over

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00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: a pregame show, no matter how good college game days.

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Speaker 1: He's Ross Tucker, former NFL offensive lineman and host of

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00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: Ross Tucker Football podcast and Westwood One NFL analyst. The

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00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: Saints last night blew out the Buccaneers because wow, it's

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00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: not even a question, it's a sentence. You want me

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00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: to finish, and it's because they kicked there but all

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00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: over the field. You know that is That's one of

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00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: those games then where I am very curious to see

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00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: whether it's just a one week flush. It doesn't really matter.

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00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes that happens, or is it a game

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00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: where the Saints are able to really benefit from that

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00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: and carry that forward and go on a run here?

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00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: And conversely, does it affect you know, the Buck's confidence?

591
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: Do they go in the hole after this? I know

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00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: this though there are years. I think it was nineteen

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00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: ninety four. You know, I grew up outside a Philly

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00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: as an Eagles fan. I want to say, in ninety four,

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00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: and you guys can looked this up. The Eagles went

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00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: to San Francisco on like a Monday night game and

597
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: beat the Niners by twenty. They smashed him. The Niners

598
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: still won the Super Bowl by thirty points. I mean,

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00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: it didn't matter, but that happens every once in a while,

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Speaker 1: and I think that what's really important moving forward is

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Speaker 1: how both of those teams respond from last night. I've

602
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: been waiting for that Saints defense all year. I mean,

603
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: they have talent everywhere. I don't know why they haven't

604
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: been able to play to that level that they did

605
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: last night. That was awfully, awfully impressive. Forty to eight

606
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: was the final score that was that Monday night game

607
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: of the Eagles. Oh my god, was it that bad. Yeah. Yeah,

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00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: I remember that and think about that and Charlie Garner

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00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: running back. Yeah, so that's a good I'm glad you

610
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: have some quick stats. Guys. Was that mclovin or was

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00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: that Paul I don't know's anyway that's PAULI. Well, here's

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Speaker 1: what I would say about it, though, Dan, It's a

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00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,719
Speaker 1: good lesson for everybody this morning to not take any

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00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: one result and try to I know, look, I know

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00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: we're in the media and you got to talk about

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00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: the next day, but to not take any one game,

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Speaker 1: especially middle of the year and try to extrapple like

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00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: that for what's going to happen the rest of the season.

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Speaker 1: But Ross, when did we start this with? We got

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00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: to start talking about the MVP like it's the Heisman,

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Speaker 1: you know, after the month is September, who's the MVP.

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00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: I don't remember doing that until recently. It felt like, Hey,

623
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: if Brett Farve wins it or Peyton wins it, and

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00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: we'll just wait until the end of the season. It

625
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: feels like this is almost week by week who's going

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00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: up and who's going down in the MVP race. Why

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00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: is that? Yeah, it's a good question, and it does

628
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: seem like it started the last couple of years. I

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00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: don't remember that when I was playing. I don't know.

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00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,719
Speaker 1: I guess Dan because it's easy. It's an easy thing

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00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: to talk about, who's the MVP, who's gonna win the

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Speaker 1: Super I mean, it's something that you can take the

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00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: temperature of every week. And now Russell Wilson had four turnovers,

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Speaker 1: Mahomes didn't. So now Mahomes is in the league. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I gotta be honest with you, I've never

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00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 1: cared that much about the MVP. I feel like, for

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00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 1: whatever reason, the Heisman is a much bigger deal than

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00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: NFL MVP. I don't know why that is, but I've

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00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 1: always been more interested in the Heisman conversation than the

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Speaker 1: NFL MVP. One. Yeah, but it feels like in the

641
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: NFL you're gonna earn the MVP, whereas in college football

642
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: it's you know, criteria. Who am I voting for best

643
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: player on the best team? You know? I love voting

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Speaker 1: for the Heisman, but it doesn't feel like it's as

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Speaker 1: scientific as maybe the NFL is. I think that's fair,

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Speaker 1: and I think once something that's a fun exercise is

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00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,919
Speaker 1: to go back through the Heisman winners over the last

648
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: twenty years, and you look at some of them and

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00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,439
Speaker 1: you're like, wait a minute, how did mark Ingram win

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00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: over whoever? How did he win? Because when you go

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Speaker 1: back into it, and even if and I'm not just

652
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 1: talking about their NFL careers, you just kind of remember

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00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 1: the players in college and then you look at their

654
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: stats and you think, how did that happen? And usually

655
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: how it happened is in November and December, the games

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00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: that are nationally televised, it's going to be the best

657
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: two or three or four teams, and it's going to

658
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: go to the best player on one of the best

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00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: two or three teams. Even if Andrew Luck was more

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00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: deserving than I think. I think it was Andrew Luck

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00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 1: and mark Ingram, maybe you look back and you're like,

662
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, Andrew Luck. Andrew Luck carried Stanford to

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00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: up a big win in the Bowl. He was a

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00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: benter college football player. The mark Ingram was that year.

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Speaker 1: But Ingram was Alabama's running back and they were the

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00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: best team. Yeah, it just feels like they're Gaudis stats

667
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: now for quarterbacks that you know there were players who

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00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: might be the best player in college football may not

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00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: be Trevor Lawrence. I mean, shocker there that there might

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00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 1: be somebody who turns out to be a better football

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00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 1: player in the pros. But if you put up these

672
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: AUDI numbers and you're on a good team and you

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00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 1: go in the final four, you're gonna you're gonna have

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00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 1: a great chance to win the Heisman Trophy. That's not

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00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: always the case in the NFL. Well, I think at

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00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 1: this point, Dan, I really do, based on the rule

677
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: changes at both levels, and based on what coordinators have

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00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:23,439
Speaker 1: figured out in terms of the RPOs and the zone reading,

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00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: some of the things you can do to really put

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00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: defenses in a bind. I'd be surprised if there's an

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Speaker 1: NFL MVP or a Heisman winner over the next ten

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00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: twenty years that isn't a quarterback. Yeah, what's that going

683
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: to happen? It's not. I mean, look at the top

684
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: five for both awards this year, it's Russell Wilson, Mahomes

685
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, maybe Josh Allen or Aaron Rodgers. In

686
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: college football, it's field. I'm not sure, Dan, when the

687
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 1: next time we'll have a non quarterback win either one

688
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: of those awards. To your point, Yeah, I'm with you,

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00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: because let's say Barry Sanders was playing now all in

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00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 1: rushing for twenty three hundred yards, which is what he did.

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00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: Is that enough? And you know he wasn't on a

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00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: national title contender. He was on a good team like

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00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: Delvin Cook at Florida State was awesome, but in awesome

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00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: in the NFL. But he's not. You're not playing for

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00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: a national championship. And it's rare when we single out

696
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: a running back or a wide receiver anymore, or defensive

697
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I mean Michael Thomas set the record

698
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: for catches in the season last year on an awesome team,

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00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: and nobody really so in the NFL, we've gotten to

700
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 1: this point where if you're Christian McCaffrey or Michael Thomas

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00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: and you have a great statistical season, somehow that puts

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00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: you in the category for Offensive Player in the Year,

703
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: but not MVP. But then the MVP is an offensive player,

704
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: but he's not the offensive Player of the Year. I mean,

705
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: we've totally screwed this up. I'll give you another one, Dan.

706
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: Nobody's talking about Big Ben FRIMVP because he's coming back

707
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: from injury, so we've already put him in the Comeback

708
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 1: Player of the Year bucket. He's did in the comeback

709
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: Player of the Year bucket. Oh yeah, give that the

710
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: Big Bend or Alex Smith. Don't even talk about him

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00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,240
Speaker 1: for MVP. It's a joke. Good to talk to you, buddy.

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00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. We'll talk to you soon, all right.

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00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 1: So that's Ross Chucker, former NFL offensive lineman Ross Tucker

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Speaker 1: Football Podcast, Westwood One, NFL Alan Thanks for listening to

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Speaker 1: The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us

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00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to

717
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and you can find

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00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us

719
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: live on the Peacock app. Head coach of the Fighting

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00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: Irish and Notre Dame with the double overtime win against Clemson.

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Speaker 1: Next up will be Boston College on Saturday at Boston College, coach, congratulations,

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00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: have you looked at the game film? Broke that down yesterday? Dan,

723
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:56,959
Speaker 1: We're already on to BC to steal a Bill Belichick line.

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00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: How long did it take you to pronounce dj Ui

725
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: on Gela's name? Still haven't got to the Huie part.

726
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 1: He just called him dj or that number five that

727
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: really really good quarterback. I told Tabo, I said, I'd

728
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: like to have your problems of both those quarterbacks. I

729
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: don't know how they get any better with either one

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Speaker 1: of them. I mean, they're just two outstanding quarterbacks. How

731
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: do you prepare differently or did you prepare differently? You know,

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00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: the system of offense kind of you know, is what

733
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: it is. I mean, they've been running the same whether

734
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson was the quarterback or you know, Trevor or DJ.

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Speaker 1: You know, you're really defending the system and then the

736
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: player makes it. You know, obviously go and both of

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00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 1: them are just outstanding players. I didn't know if you

738
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: picked your poison with Travis etn It's either I'm gonna

739
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 1: let him be a runner or I'm gonna let him

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00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 1: be a pass receiver. What was the defensive philosophy, Well,

741
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: it's a little bit of both. I mean, you can't

742
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: you know, you're really in a position where matching him

743
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: up one on one with your linebacker is not a

744
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: good matchup. So we had to keep a safety in

745
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: a position where he could get some help over the

746
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: top as well. So you know, obviously you could tell

747
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: by our game plan, you know, Travis et Tian was

748
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: a guy that we were focused on. They have other

749
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 1: weapons that certainly hurt us, and that that's really the

750
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: nature playing the number one team in the country. They

751
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: have more ways to beat you than just one guy.

752
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: But we felt like Travis et Tan was the guy

753
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: that we really had to focus on. The late fumble

754
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 1: by Ian Book And I don't know, as a coach,

755
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: do you need to say something? Is it sometimes better

756
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: to not say something to the player who just coughed

757
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: up the football? You know, his resume, you know, does

758
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: not get the kind of scrutiny that it should. He

759
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: leads us to so many late comebacks and wins. You know,

760
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: as somebody that's twenty seven three as a starter, you

761
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: have to win a lot of games late. And so

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00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: I thought it was appropriate time to go up and say, hey,

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00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: you're gonna win a game for us here, We're gonna

764
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: need you to do that again. And so I just

765
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 1: thought the timing was appropriate to give him some positive

766
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: reinforcement at that time. And you know, again he did

767
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: what he's done so many times for us. He led

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00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: a ninety one yard drive with under two minutes in

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00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: the game to get the You know the tie replay

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00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: is killing the game. Coach, tell me about it. You

771
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: you're preaching to the choir. How did we get here? Uh,

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00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: this would be a long interview if we really wanted

773
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: to get into it. Um. I think we have really

774
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: overanalyzed the game to the extent that, you know, everybody

775
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:52,240
Speaker 1: wants to be perfect, and there's nothing perfect about any sport.

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00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: It still has that that element of, uh, you're going

777
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,439
Speaker 1: to miss a couple here and there. You just hope

778
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: you don't miss some big And I think we're trying

779
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: to be perfect and you can't be perfect in the game,

780
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: and perfection is slowing this game down to a point

781
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: where it is absolutely brutal. If I said to the coaches,

782
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: you vote, you can have replay or no replay, I

783
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:22,280
Speaker 1: would say, can we just have replay on scoring plays,

784
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: you know where where they can be absolutely you know,

785
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: game changers. But to be nitpicking every single play is

786
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: just Look, there were so many stoppages in that game.

787
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: I felt bad for the game. The poor kids kicking

788
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 1: the extra points in overtime. I mean I could hear

789
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: myself breathing, and overtime there's nobody in the stands and

790
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: those kids are kicking extra points and they're stopping the

791
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: game for four minutes to replay again and again and again.

792
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: It was it's got a change. It was. It was unfortunate. Okay,

793
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: the fans come on the field. Now, where were all

794
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: those fans during the game. Are those all in the

795
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: stands or those killing camp? Yeah? No, they weren't. No, No,

796
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 1: they weren't. No, they We're not that good. Uh No,

797
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 1: they were the fans in the stands. And look, our job,

798
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: obviously in that situation is to do the best we

799
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: can to keep them from going on the field. You know,

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00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: we protected uh you know, Clemson. I had alluded to

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00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 1: my team that when we win this game, that they're gonna,

802
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 1: like most fans throughout the country, they're gonna they're gonna

803
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: come onto the field. It was their last home game

804
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,280
Speaker 1: because we closed down school next week. It was really

805
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: their last home game because they won't be here for

806
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: the December fifth game against stand Syracuse. Excuse me. So

807
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: they took the opportunity to come on the field, and uh,

808
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: you know, we did the best we could under those circumstances. Yea.

809
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: It reminded me of Justin Turner in the world series

810
00:43:54,239 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 1: that emotion overtakes common sense. Yeah, look again, would we

811
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: have liked it to have been different? Yes, all those

812
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: students were tested earlier in the week for COVID. You

813
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:13,720
Speaker 1: know again, it's hard to stop students coming over the fence.

814
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: We don't have all the personnel to make that a

815
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 1: situation where nobody can come over the fence and onto

816
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: the field. But again, hopefully we got through it without

817
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,479
Speaker 1: any ill effects. He's Brian Kelly, Notre Dame head coach,

818
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: fresh off the win over Clemson at BC coming up

819
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: next Saturday. When you face Clemson in your mind, I

820
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 1: guess you have to be prepared to face them again

821
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 1: in the ACC title game. Do you put everything out

822
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 1: there like you want to win, that you needed to

823
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: win this game. How much do you reveal of your

824
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,919
Speaker 1: game plan, playbook in a game like that and try

825
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 1: to hold something back if you meet them in the

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00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: ACC title game. Well, Dan, I think it now becomes

827
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 1: a game of adjustments, right. It's it's what you did

828
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 1: in the game and what they did defense of Lee,

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00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: and each team now is looking at how are they

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00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: going to make adjustments? For example, um, you know what

831
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 1: wrinkles will we have in our protection. You know, what

832
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: are they going to do differently that they did in

833
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: the red zone against us? So I think this is

834
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 1: if we do in fact play each other, it will

835
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 1: be much more about what adjustments will you make to

836
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 1: your game plan? Uh, more so than anything else in

837
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 1: the second matchup, if in fact we're lucky enough to

838
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 1: get there. Who who does Trevor Lawrence to remind you of?

839
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: Oh Man? I mean, you know, he has the athletic

840
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 1: ability to run like any of the great running quarterbacks.

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00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: Um that that we've seen out there. Um, he's just

842
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: a hybrid player. He's got great size, armed talent. He

843
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: could look. I mean, I think he's that unique of

844
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: a player that that he is the number one pick

845
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: in the draft because he's hard to compare. Like it's easy,

846
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: Like you asked me about other players, I can immediately

847
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: give you a name of a player and say he's

848
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,760
Speaker 1: like this. It's hard to compare him to somebody because

849
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: he's got great appletic ability, but nobody has the length

850
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 1: and nobody has you know, the similar traits that he has.

851
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: I just think he's a guy that doesn't come around

852
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: very long. It reminds me of Andrew Luck well, he's

853
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: got the makeup of an Andrew Luck. Andrew, as you know,

854
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 1: was bigger and thicker and stronger, you know, from that standpoint,

855
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: much more of a pocket guy. You know. I think

856
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 1: Luck is going to be seen in the NFL as

857
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: a guy with great escapability and they're gonna move him

858
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:41,919
Speaker 1: around a little bit. You'll see him run as well.

859
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: You'll always hear this. There's a big win, and then

860
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: you got next week, and then everybody says, oh, there's

861
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,479
Speaker 1: going to be a letdown. So how do you tell

862
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 1: your kids don't let down against BC? Yeah, so you

863
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: know what's a letdown. A letdown is not living up

864
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: to the standards that we have set here for the

865
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: last four years years, right, I mean, so it's been

866
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: the consistent application of our process. So all of a

867
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: sudden we're going to go away from what has been

868
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: consistent for us. I just you know, our guys are

869
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: too smart for that. They know how to prepare. We'll

870
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: go back out on the practice field and we'll prepare

871
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 1: the right way and play a very gritty, tough, well

872
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: coached Boston College team. And look, we know the history.

873
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,439
Speaker 1: Last time notre name beat a number one team, they

874
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: played BC and lost, So we get all that. We

875
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 1: read the newspapers, we know the history clips. So our

876
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: guys a cognizant of that. They'll go out practice hard

877
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 1: and they'll prepare the right way. The coolest thing in

878
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: your office is what I have a surfboard on my ceiling,

879
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: because well, who would ever have a surfboard in South Bandon?

880
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 1: I mean, when parents come into an office, you've got

881
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,280
Speaker 1: to have something that's a little bit different to talk about.

882
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 1: So if you come in the office another coach and

883
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: you look up and there's a surfboard, you gotta say, wow,

884
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 1: this is a little bit different in South Bend. Well Lake,

885
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: Michigan can get a little turbulent there. But yeah, that's true.

886
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: But I'm trying to compare. I know Harbaugh doesn't have

887
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: a surfboard and he's got other things to worry about

888
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: in his office there. All right, Yeah, I've smart well done. Hey,

889
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: congrats on the win, good luck against BC. Thank you, coach.

890
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: All right, take care, Danny. That's Brian Kelly, Notre Dame

891
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: head coach. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk

892
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 1: lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at

893
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:44,239
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894
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: search f SR to listen live. Found out yesterday Alex

895
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: Tremac had passed away at the age of eighty. I

896
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: had been in touch with one of his good friends

897
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: for the last couple of weeks. He gave me a

898
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: heads up that Alex came in This was less than

899
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: two weeks ago and did his final episode of Jeopardy.

900
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: Everybody who was there during the filming of it knew

901
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 1: that it was his final episode, but they said Alex

902
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: was Alex, that's just who he is. Who he was,

903
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,919
Speaker 1: and great admiration for the man and also the game

904
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: show host as well, And we thought this would be

905
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 1: a great time to bring back the interview we conducted

906
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: with him back on August eighth of twenty fourteen, and

907
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: I started the interview asking Alex treback that if you

908
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 1: could host another game show, which would it be? That

909
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 1: would be Hollywood Squares. I hosted the show very similar

910
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: to Squares once. It was called Battle Stars Yeah, and

911
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 1: instead of Squares, we had Triangles. We couldn't come up

912
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 1: with the same budget that Hollywood Squares had, so we

913
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 1: had only six celebrities instead of nine. But it was

914
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 1: an ideal show. Because you asked a question and the

915
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: celebrity gave you a funny answer, and you reacted and laughed,

916
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 1: So you got credit for having a fun show, even

917
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: though the absolutely I mean, what a great way to

918
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,439
Speaker 1: make a living. Hey, you tell a joke and I laugh.

919
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,959
Speaker 1: Give me them a check place. Thank you very much.

920
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: When you first started Jeopardy, and you had been part

921
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: of a lot of game shows, and I don't know

922
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 1: what it does to your ego if those game shows

923
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 1: don't succeed and then you get Jeopardy. Well, I was

924
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 1: lucky with some of the other game shows. The first

925
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 1: game show I did in the United States was Wizard

926
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: of Odds in nineteen seventy three. It was canceled on

927
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: a Friday, and I was disappointed, of course, and it

928
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,760
Speaker 1: was replaced the following Monday by a show called high Rollers,

929
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 1: which I also hosted and later on high Rollers. After

930
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: two and a half years, it was canceled and it

931
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: was replaced by another show which I hosted. So I

932
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:58,280
Speaker 1: have the either great honored or dubious honor of having

933
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 1: replaced myself on three different occasions. I also have the

934
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 1: honor of having hosted three different game shows at one

935
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 1: time classic concentration. Jeopardy and a show that I tell

936
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 1: audiences was one of my favorites because for the first

937
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 1: time in fifty years as a broadcaster, I got to

938
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: sit down as the host, and that was to tell

939
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: the truth. Wait, that was fun. You don't sit down

940
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: on Jeopardy, Well now I do, since I blew out

941
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: my achilles tendon a couple of years ago and injured

942
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 1: my left foot by dropping a jackhammer on it and

943
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: not being able to walk too well and stand for

944
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 1: long periods of time. Why do you have a jackhammer?

945
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: I was. We had a water leak at the house

946
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 1: and I finally figured out where it was, and it

947
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: was under a concrete part of the patio, so I

948
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: drilled it out and found it. Don't you have people

949
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 1: to do this for you? Well, yes, but I like

950
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:59,240
Speaker 1: to do things myself, and unfortunately some mechanical things, ladders

951
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: in particular, have it in for me. They will abandon

952
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 1: me at the weirdest moments. And one ladder, when I

953
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 1: was working on the roof, decided it was going to

954
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: slip out from under me, and I hit the brick

955
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: patio and I lay there for a few moments, and

956
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 1: you guys were talking about it, or at least at

957
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 1: least alluding to it earlier as to how bright I am. Well,

958
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,879
Speaker 1: I'll show you how bright I am when I hit

959
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:28,760
Speaker 1: that deck. I lay there for a moment and I said,

960
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 1: don't move, you're hurt. See, I'm pretty sure are very

961
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 1: very sharp. Yeah, but are you play trivial pursuit? No?

962
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 1: I don't. I haven't in years. Okay, if a game

963
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 1: breaks out, you would walk like you're supposed to know

964
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:49,240
Speaker 1: everything supposed to Yes, but I'm at that wonderful age

965
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: now where I can say I knew that, but I've

966
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 1: forgotten it. You see, Yeah, I knew it, but I

967
00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 1: have forgotten. How would you do on Jeopardy against my peers?

968
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: Probably very well. But as I tell our audience is

969
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: a good thirty year old would clean my clock any

970
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 1: day of the week. But they're faster, they can recall

971
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: the stuff more, they're faster on ringing in with the

972
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 1: signaling device, so they're going to beat me in that area.

973
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 1: I mean, there are days when I have trouble remembering

974
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: what I had last night, so trying to recall all

975
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: this arcane information is not easy. What role does sports

976
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: play has it played on Jeopardy probably less than it

977
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:39,720
Speaker 1: plays in society in general. We tend to we feature

978
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: it from time to time, but not as much as

979
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: you would encounter in everyday life, where people enjoy talking

980
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: about sports because they have a vested interests, they have

981
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 1: a favorite team. So if I said dream category sports related,

982
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: what would it be? Oh gosh, for myself, I don't know.

983
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 1: NBA basketball maybe, but I'm not as big a sports

984
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 1: fan as I used to be. However, having said that,

985
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 1: this year, I've suddenly become a baseball fan because of

986
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: the success of the Dodgers and the Angels, two teams

987
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: that have come alive. I mean, they're at the very

988
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 1: top of their leagues and they provide exciting entertainment. It's

989
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: fun to watch, and that's really what sports is all about. You.

990
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 1: I have been a Lakers fan, and I will not

991
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: abandon them, even though they have fallen on hard times

992
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: and will probably remain in hard times for a while.

993
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: Where do you sit at Laker games? I attend one

994
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:47,280
Speaker 1: Laker game a year, and it is in the sony

995
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 1: seat under the backboard. Oh so you're not over Biden

996
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: Jack Nicholson, No, he's to my right, he would be

997
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 1: where the posse is here? And I envy you so much.

998
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 1: You have your posse and you arrive in a helicopter. Yes,

999
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 1: I've got and I don't mean this with any disrespect.

1000
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 1: I've got Johnny Gilbert. You know I don't even have Vanat.

1001
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,839
Speaker 1: You've got four guys and a helicopter. I drive in.

1002
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 1: There's one similarity between your setup and mine. I drive

1003
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: to work in a Dodge Ram pickup truck. People go

1004
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 1: out and say, where's your car. They're looking for a

1005
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 1: Rolls or a Bentley or Pata Pat. Say Jack has

1006
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 1: a four door Porsche. When he pulls out of the driveway,

1007
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: it's like a jet taking off. He's got four mufflers.

1008
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,720
Speaker 1: And here I go with my fifteen hundred Dodge Ramp.

1009
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 1: But I've got a HEMI yeah, yeah, so I like that. Yeah,

1010
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: I brought you a present by you. Yes, this is

1011
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: a Crayola. And people who attend our tapings when we

1012
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: do Jeopardy say, Alex, what do you keep writing down?

1013
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: I say, I'm not writing anything. I'm crossing off the

1014
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 1: clues as I read them so that I do not

1015
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 1: in error read that same clue again because as you'll

1016
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: discover when you do sports Jeopardy some of your contestants

1017
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 1: are going to want to jump around the board. Yeah,

1018
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 1: they're not going to take the category in order. And

1019
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 1: if you haven't crossed off the clues, you might very

1020
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 1: easily read the same clue again. So I want to

1021
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 1: protect you from that mistake. Well, that's that's a very

1022
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 1: expensive gift. That's twenty nine cents in California. I don't

1023
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 1: know what it is here. I think it's fourteen fifty

1024
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: in New York. I think you're passing the torches what

1025
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 1: you just did. Sports wise, No, I have one more left.

1026
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: Oh you do? Ok? Yeah, they look after me. They

1027
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:37,399
Speaker 1: gave me two a year now they you can't hear

1028
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 1: it either. No, but that was the problem initially. I

1029
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 1: used to use a pen a sharpie, and people say,

1030
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: we're picking it up on the microphone. So they came

1031
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:53,359
Speaker 1: up with Crayola and some brilliant people there. Yes. Uh,

1032
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 1: has there been an incident in the studio Sports Jeopardy

1033
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: like contestant angry or any friction in there? Not? Really.

1034
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 1: In the early stages when I was producing the show

1035
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: and looking at all of the incoming mail, we had

1036
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 1: a contestant who lost and wasn't happy with the decision

1037
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 1: made by the judges and sent a I think it

1038
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 1: was a one hundred page letter contesting it manifesto. Yeah,

1039
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 1: And I wrote him back and I explained the reasons

1040
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 1: for our judgment call and he wrote back seventeen more pages.

1041
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: So I never heard from him after that. But I

1042
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: talked to MERV Griffin about that once and he said, Alex,

1043
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 1: let me tell you how I handle the mail. And

1044
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 1: he picked up a letter and he crumbled it put

1045
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: it in the waste basket. Well, I never did that

1046
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 1: because I want to show respect for the viewers and

1047
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 1: if they take the time to write in, I'm going

1048
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 1: to take the time to respond. But I don't do

1049
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 1: the responding. Now. We have our staff that deal with problems. Hey,

1050
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 1: you guys were wrong or don't what we weren't, So

1051
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: they'll handle a lot. But you do have a kind

1052
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 1: of a bedside manner when you tell somebody that they're wrong. Well,

1053
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: I want to appear to our viewing audience as a

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Speaker 1: good guy, and I think when you're the host, it

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Speaker 1: behooves you to do that. Um So, one of my

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Speaker 1: guys made a mistake on an answer. So sorry, if

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Speaker 1: you were you're such a that's see, if you were

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00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: going to be the mean Alex Trebek, Like, if if

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Speaker 1: you were going to be a different Alex Trebek and

1060
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 1: these guys had the wrong answer, how would you respond?

1061
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 1: Who is George Washington? You're not serious? Really? Did you

1062
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 1: not get past fourth grade? I like that? Did you

1063
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 1: not make it grade six? Do you remember your grade

1064
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 1: sixth graduation? You got your driver's license that year? Wow? Remember? Wow?

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Speaker 1: Didn't you? You? Kind of? Um, didn't you finally got it?

1066
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 1: You school? Didn't you do? I kind of got um uh,

1067
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: not prickly, but um. You had a hockey question and

1068
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 1: they answered Magic Johnson and you being a hockey fan

1069
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 1: and a basketball fan. But sometimes the responses, as you

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00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 1: indicated in your last segment, the responses are so far

1071
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 1: out of line that it's almost begging you to for

1072
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 1: the put down. The only let's see, I'm just trying

1073
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 1: to recall the only time that I can recall that

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00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 1: I deliberately did a put down was for Lynn Redgrave

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00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 1: in a celebrity Jeopardy thing and she was not doing

1076
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 1: well and said, oh, my signaling device is not working

1077
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 1: very well. And I looked at her and I said,

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01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 1: it's not your signaling, and I and to tell you

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01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 1: the truth. I regretted saying that afterwards, because all right,

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01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 1: come on, you're the host of the show. You're here

1081
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 1: every day. Your job is to run the game, help

1082
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: the contestants do their very best. It's like the military commercials.

1083
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 1: Be all you can be. That's my job as the host.

1084
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 1: So if I'm nasty, the audience will not like that.

1085
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 1: They will think, oh, he's being a smartass, he's being this,

1086
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 1: he's being that. We don't want him anymore. And I

1087
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 1: want them to want me. Well, we want you to

1088
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 1: stay for one more segment. If you can't, gosh, can you?

1089
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 1: I will have to say more words. Yes you will. Okay,

1090
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 1: all right, well, I want to ask you about the

1091
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:57,439
Speaker 1: Cheers episode. Few other things were you and white men

1092
01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 1: can't jump? Yes, yeah, you've been in a few. You've

1093
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 1: had some cameras. You're playing yourself too, which sometimes is

1094
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 1: very difficult to do. Well, not for me, because it

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01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 1: requires very little effort on my part, and also just

1096
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 1: a modicum of drugs. That's it. That's in your writer

1097
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 1: there that you have to help. Of course, we'll continue

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01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 1: with Alex Trebek, continuing with Alex Trebek, I will be

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01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 1: here for another twenty seconds. I'm told no, no, because

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01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 1: you're on a delay. Well, shall I leave and come

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01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 1: back in twenty Well, I'm worried about your language. That's

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01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 1: why you're on delay. Okay, have you ever slipped on

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01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 1: Jeopardy with language? No, But there have been occasions when

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01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 1: in the very early days, after having taped five shows

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01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: on one day and five shows the next day, we

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01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 1: were recording promos and I was not having a good time,

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01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 1: and so somebody got hold of the video and they

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01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 1: put it up there and they said, you know, watch

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01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:59,919
Speaker 1: Trebek drunk cursing. Well, I wasn't drunk, but you were cursing.

1110
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 1: I was. I was saying many bad words. We've all

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01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 1: done that. The Cheers episode. Yeah, that was a lot

1112
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 1: of fun. I'm still asked about that, and that was

1113
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 1: years and years ago. But the categories, PAULI give the

1114
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 1: categories or Cliff Cleveland, Cliff Cleven, mail man, yeah, mailman,

1115
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 1: civil servants, stamps from around the world, mothers and sons,

1116
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 1: beer bar, trivia, and our favorite celibacy. And still he

1117
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 1: blew it in final Jeopardy of But that that was

1118
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 1: a lot of fun, and it's just an indication of

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01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 1: how Jeopardy has come to be accepted as part of Americana. Well,

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01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 1: what about Saturday Night Live? Same thing they did you.

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01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 1: I was not bothered at all. That's not the best

1122
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 1: to take off of me that I've ever seen, though,

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Speaker 1: the best one was done by SCTV and Eugene Levy

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01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 1: was Alex Trebell in the early days and then and

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01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 1: then I guess they said, oh screw this, I mean,

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01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:01,440
Speaker 1: we all know who it is. So they'd introduced him

1127
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 1: as Alex Trebec and he had the dark hair and

1128
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 1: the dark mustache, which I had at that time, so

1129
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 1: he looked a lot more like me, and he could

1130
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 1: portray an exasperated host much better than Will Farrell. Will

1131
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 1: Farrell is kind of cool, you know, he's he's seething inside,

1132
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 1: whereas Eugene Levy was exploding outside. Oh he would. Eugene

1133
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 1: Levy's character is not the one that would say, oh sorry,

1134
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 1: you know none of that. Did you talk to Will

1135
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 1: Farrell about the role when he portrayed you, Well, only

1136
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 1: on his best appearance on Saturday Night Live as a regular,

1137
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 1: because they had me come in and do a walk

1138
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 1: on and he's a just a charming, easy going, soft person,

1139
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 1: very nice. And what was strange is that I had

1140
01:03:55,080 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 1: shaved my mustache the year before, and Lauren Michael, the

1141
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 1: executive producers, still had will with a mustache. And I said, Lauren,

1142
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 1: you realize I don't have the mustache anymore. So they

1143
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 1: took it off for the dress rehearsal, and then he

1144
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:13,439
Speaker 1: had them put it back on for the show, even

1145
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 1: though I was coming on at the end of that

1146
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 1: segment and people would see that I didn't have the mustache.

1147
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 1: But that was like an international incident when you shaved

1148
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 1: your mustache. Yeah, I don't understand that. There was a

1149
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 1: lot going on. And you have women who have looked

1150
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 1: like crushes on you, like like your boy band type

1151
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 1: Jeopardy groupies. Yeah, but they're in their sixties and seventies.

1152
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't say, that's not the point. You

1153
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 1: got women who have crushes on you. I guess a

1154
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 1: lot of them, A lot of them want you want

1155
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 1: me to have the mustache back, And we have a

1156
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 1: surprise in store for them as the new season begins. WHOA,

1157
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let my eyebrows grow and phone them back.

1158
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 1: It'll be it'll be a new look, all right, Tom.

1159
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 1: Any advice for me for sports Jeopardy, Have fun. Don't

1160
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 1: take yourself too seriously because you're not the main focus

1161
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 1: of attention. It's the game. Protest that my photo. Well,

1162
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 1: I saw your photo, and in response to what you

1163
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 1: guys were wondering about photo shopping and all that stuff,

1164
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 1: they did that with his picture. That's my that's my body,

1165
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 1: that's his head and my body. Yeah, they used to

1166
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 1: have Heidi Klum on top of my body, but they

1167
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 1: that didn't go over. So just have fun. Don't take

1168
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 1: myself too serious. So sort of what I do here, Yeah,

1169
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 1: you don't think that's gonna work. Well, you want to

1170
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 1: appear to be a little brighter, Oh on Jeopardy guys,

1171
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 1: that'll help me appear a little brighter with it. But

1172
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 1: if I wore glasses, that might do it. But getting

1173
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 1: rid of these guys might help because they put you

1174
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 1: on the spot. And in the early days of Jeopardy,

1175
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 1: viewers would come up to me and they figured, oh,

1176
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 1: you're so smart, what about this and this? And they

1177
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 1: kept throwing things at me, and fortunately I was able

1178
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 1: to come up with a correct response, and after a

1179
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 1: few years that stopped. He's Alex Trebeck, the great Alex Trebeck.

1180
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 1: Thank you for stopping and Alex means the world to

1181
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 1: me and passing the Crayola torch here for Sports Jeopardy.

1182
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 1: That was August twenty fourteen, and I still have the

1183
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 1: crayola because he told me said, don't use a sharpie,

1184
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 1: it'll make noise, It'll be picked up by your microphone.

1185
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 1: And if you do this dark crayola type of pencil there,

1186
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 1: then you'll be able. You have to ex out your

1187
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 1: clues just so it's easier to find it on your

1188
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 1: big You have this huge piece of paper with all

1189
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 1: the clues, all the categories there, and once they go

1190
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 1: to a certain category, certain clue, you exit out, and

1191
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 1: that you read it, exit out, go to their answer,

1192
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 1: and then come back and then repeat. But he was

1193
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 1: very generous, and I mentioned in the first hour when

1194
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 1: I first got to Los Angeles, I was doing Sports

1195
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 1: Jeopardy and Harry Friedman, the great executive producer of Jeopardy,

1196
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 1: suggested that Alex and I go out to dinner and

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01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 1: I was getting up, you know, we had to be

1198
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 1: in the studio. We were up at like four in

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01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:28,439
Speaker 1: the morning, four thirty, got to the studio and I said,

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01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 1: can Alex go to dinner at five o'clock? And he

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01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 1: did and we were in the restaurant by ourselves. Nobody

1202
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 1: goes to dinner at five o'clock, certainly not in la

1203
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 1: And we went all the way in the back and

1204
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 1: we had the room to ourselves, and he just was

1205
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 1: We just talked because he said, you can do this,

1206
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 1: you know. My advice is just, you know, have fun

1207
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 1: with it. As he said, don't take yourself too seriously

1208
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 1: and appreciate it. And that was really it. And I

1209
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 1: think that that's what his mindset was every time he

1210
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 1: did it, is he didn't take himself too seriously. He

1211
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 1: had fun, He knew what he was doing, and he

1212
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 1: made it look a whole lot easier than it was.

1213
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 1: So rest in peace, Alex Trebeck. Thanks for listening to

1214
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 1: The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us

1215
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:17,240
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1216
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:20,200
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1217
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:22,679
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1218
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:25,320
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01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:30,200
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