WEBVTT - Brown Girls Grinding with Loren LoRosa

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to We Talk Back Podcast, the production of iHeartRadio

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<v Speaker 1>and the Black Effect Network.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion

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<v Speaker 2>who talks.

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<v Speaker 1>What's up, y'all? Thank you for tuning in for a

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<v Speaker 1>new episode of We Talk Back, a show dedicated to

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<v Speaker 1>you dreamers and chasers. It's your co host, AJ Holiday.

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<v Speaker 1>What's up to you?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, y'all, It's official Tmvan. I love y'all. Thank y'all

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<v Speaker 2>for tuning in. Again. We got a guest with us today.

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<v Speaker 2>Laura le Rossa. Do her introduction. I know you got it?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so why you let me do it? Okay? You're

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<v Speaker 1>not be writing nice little introductions for the guests. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, y'alls listen. Today's guest is simply a brown

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<v Speaker 1>girl grinding okay. A former news producer for TMZ, also

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<v Speaker 1>on air talent for over seven years. Also for the

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<v Speaker 1>past year, y'all have seen her as a recurring guest

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<v Speaker 1>host on The Breakfast Club with CHARLAMAGNEA God and DJ

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<v Speaker 1>Envy and Again. She's a producer, she's a model, she's

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<v Speaker 1>an actress. She's dominating and documenting her journey through the

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<v Speaker 1>world of entertainment via lifestyle vlogs on her self produced

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube channel, Lauren lo Rosa TV. And at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the day, it's Lauren Lorosa. You like that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I love.

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<v Speaker 3>How you bought it all together. At the end of

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<v Speaker 3>the day, it's new too, So you've been you, you

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<v Speaker 3>did your research.

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<v Speaker 2>How y'all doing.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so happy to be here. I'm so happy to

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<v Speaker 3>be with girls that talk back, because maybe I'll be

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<v Speaker 3>talking back and maybe like share up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, how was y'all? Weekend?

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<v Speaker 1>It was good?

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<v Speaker 3>Not cool?

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<v Speaker 2>What'd you do?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really do much and nothing. I went out.

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<v Speaker 3>I had some friends in town. I newly got a

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<v Speaker 3>place here in Jersey, so just like letting people know

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<v Speaker 3>that I'm here and like popping out a little bit,

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<v Speaker 3>like dinners and stuff like that. Nothing too too crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>What about you?

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<v Speaker 1>I've been sick? The fuck?

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<v Speaker 3>What is happening?

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<v Speaker 2>Was?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Then I saw this post on social media how everybody sick?

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<v Speaker 1>So apparently there's something going around. And the only place

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<v Speaker 1>I've been to was the grocery store.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like a cold, but it sounds like the flu.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, no, yeah, I call I called a SAT

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<v Speaker 2>I was like hello, I was like, to you I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, goddamn, girl.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sweating right now, Like I really need like a

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<v Speaker 1>fan and the ice pack. I'm so hot, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>coming out. That's my weekend, y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me tell y'all about my weekend. So one of

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<v Speaker 2>my good friends, she was having her twin babies christen

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<v Speaker 2>this weekend in Atlanta. So I went down to celebrate

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<v Speaker 2>the babies and go to the christening and it was

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<v Speaker 2>such a good time. And at the end of the

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<v Speaker 2>church service, my friend pulled me to the front. She

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I want to let get the pastor to

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<v Speaker 2>pray for you. So I went to the front and

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<v Speaker 2>the pastor like it was two of them that was

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<v Speaker 2>praying over me, and both of them took that holy

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<v Speaker 2>oil and we're like, put it in their hand right,

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<v Speaker 2>and they laid hands on my head right and it

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<v Speaker 2>was mashing it in. I feel like the pastor was

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<v Speaker 2>making trying to make me go down, but I was like.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going down.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going down. I'm not going down. So he

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<v Speaker 2>was just mashing that holy oil right into my lace. Baby.

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<v Speaker 2>By the time I.

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<v Speaker 1>Got out, just moved back because the oil movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Baby, I was lifted. I was lifted in the spirit,

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<v Speaker 2>and so was my lace. My ship was so high up.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, oh my god, it looks so bad, y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just had to walk around talking everybody. Had

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<v Speaker 2>you enjoyed the service? Lace? Just standing up.

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<v Speaker 3>Some good today because because.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to take that thing up and set put

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<v Speaker 2>it back down and you wanted to push it back anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>So there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like a hand shout and that is.

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<v Speaker 1>It looked good. I feel like that on purpose. They

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to see if that was your hair or not.

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<v Speaker 2>It was two it was two men too hens right there.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, thank you God, but too yes yes,

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<v Speaker 2>So hopefully the prayers come true. Amen.

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<v Speaker 1>Amen.

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<v Speaker 2>So our first segment of the show is called Stupid

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<v Speaker 2>Internet News. I don't know if you've seen it or

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<v Speaker 2>heard it before, but it's just our Sins of the

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<v Speaker 2>week where we discussed everything dumb that's going on in

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<v Speaker 2>the world, everything that's good. So let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about Chris Brown and all. Start. You see

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<v Speaker 2>that over the weekend Chris Brown going on. I saw

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<v Speaker 2>that you had a post recently about Chris.

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<v Speaker 3>Grow They still I'm still getting onplications and people were

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<v Speaker 3>so angry at me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes too, how about that?

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<v Speaker 3>Like they like they like, they're like, fuck her, that's

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<v Speaker 3>why she didn't get the breakfast club job.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, people was on there saying that the big man.

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<v Speaker 3>That's like, that's like the lightest of of the comments.

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<v Speaker 3>But when you when you talk about anything Chris Brown,

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<v Speaker 3>especially if you're not saying sending him to hell and

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<v Speaker 3>do rid of him, people wanna you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>that's gonna happen. I saw it though, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>we still arguing about.

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<v Speaker 2>Chris, right, all right? So that's my whole point, right right.

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<v Speaker 2>So what happened over the weekend For people who don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Brown is slamming the NBA and claiming he was

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<v Speaker 2>disinvited from the least annual NBA All Star Celebrity Game

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<v Speaker 2>due to his past domestic violence controversies. The R and

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<v Speaker 2>B singer posted several screenshots of emails on his Instagram

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<v Speaker 2>story early Saturday morning, which appeared to be sent by

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<v Speaker 2>the NBA. Now, do we feel like it's about Rihanna still?

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<v Speaker 2>Because that ship old as hell.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's about all of the eth But you

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<v Speaker 3>got Rihanna, you got Caruci who had called police reports.

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<v Speaker 3>You have just everything that has followed him since, Like people,

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<v Speaker 3>he's just been like the bad kid in school.

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<v Speaker 2>He can't shake it.

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<v Speaker 3>So people, I think people, brands are afraid to touch him.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, it's that's what I think too, because

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, here we have doctor Dre has a whole

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<v Speaker 2>award named after him at the Grammys, and he's a

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<v Speaker 2>known woman beater. I feel like Doctor Dre's stuff never

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<v Speaker 2>really stuck though, Like to be honest with you, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I think because Michelai had that whole like what was

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<v Speaker 2>it like a docu.

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<v Speaker 3>Sente or something like it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever situation.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that that the age groups matter too,

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<v Speaker 3>because like social media and all that stuff was a

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<v Speaker 3>lot bigger when even though it's even bigger now when

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<v Speaker 3>the Chris Browniana stuff happened. And I also think Rihanna

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<v Speaker 3>is like she was then it is now the girl

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<v Speaker 3>and as sad as it is, it's like I think

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<v Speaker 3>when black women are like beating bruises and what battered,

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<v Speaker 3>the world already cares to a certain extent and not really,

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<v Speaker 3>but if you're not like a Megda Stallion or Rihanna,

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<v Speaker 3>like if this was any other woman, Like people don't

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<v Speaker 3>even talk about Crucci.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hm, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think with doctor Dre he kind of got

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<v Speaker 3>able to like move around it because the women weren't

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<v Speaker 3>like big householdines. He was so basically doctor Dre, Doctor

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<v Speaker 3>Dre beat the right bitches, what I mean, that's what

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<v Speaker 3>it looks like like No for real though, because it.

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<v Speaker 1>All from a time where it just gotta be a bigger.

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<v Speaker 3>And there was a yeah, a lot of stuff I

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<v Speaker 3>think too during their times. I don't think we know

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<v Speaker 3>because of the music, the lyrics, like everything. A lot

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<v Speaker 3>of stuff during their time was excusable.

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<v Speaker 2>For what they were. Like they like we we talked back.

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<v Speaker 3>Now he's your podcast, So it's a little bit different

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<v Speaker 3>now these days, Like it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't the same, Dame we.

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<v Speaker 1>Fight back because who we shoot back over here that

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<v Speaker 1>we shoot first first.

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<v Speaker 3>The right one.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think it is whack for all these different

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<v Speaker 1>organizations to initiate these invitations to Chris Brown only to

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<v Speaker 1>pull him back because this is not the first time

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<v Speaker 1>it's happened. I can't recall off hand the last time,

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<v Speaker 1>but this I've definitely seen this type of shit happen

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<v Speaker 1>with him before, Like just like he said, just leave

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<v Speaker 1>him alone. He'll go wherever he's appreciated, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>So so Ruffles came out, and Ruffles was like, get

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<v Speaker 3>somebody else to do it. The wind on the door, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>like doesn't look even crazier because like y'all not even standing.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the brands gotta stand on something, and one

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<v Speaker 3>of y'all are not. Neither one of y'all are standing

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<v Speaker 3>on anything. So now it looks like y'all scared to

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<v Speaker 3>be like, oh, we don't want to sit next to him,

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<v Speaker 3>but y'all don't want to say that. It's like pick

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<v Speaker 3>a side, right, y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>Be having too much fucking air in that bag of chips?

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<v Speaker 2>Why is that much air? Let's talk about that.

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<v Speaker 3>We only even tenor ruffles anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>The sound cream and Cheddar is the only one. We

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<v Speaker 2>y'all only put ten chips in the bad and get

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<v Speaker 2>it together.

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<v Speaker 3>Nah, but the world ain't never gonna let Chris Brown

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<v Speaker 3>let us down, and like it's it's okay, like right,

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<v Speaker 3>some people are forever gonna feel like that man deserves hell.

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<v Speaker 3>And if that's how you feel, that's how you feel,

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<v Speaker 3>and if you don't, that you don't. But when it

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<v Speaker 3>comes to the brands, I never want us to think

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<v Speaker 3>that these brands get too straight out exactly, particularly us,

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<v Speaker 3>but especially once you got a little tainted version of

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<v Speaker 3>us like that. They're gonna protect their business. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>care how black the company team looks or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Business is. Business is business.

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<v Speaker 1>Quick. Everybody jumped off that deep that p did train

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<v Speaker 1>got the hell up out.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the baby do we?

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<v Speaker 3>We don't drink deliere.

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<v Speaker 1>I never drunk it.

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<v Speaker 3>I liked I like.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if if niggas had it in the section

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<v Speaker 2>I was drinking, wasn't it was the owned by a

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<v Speaker 2>black man?

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<v Speaker 3>That was that?

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't? But really was it? Because you got out

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<v Speaker 1>of your whole, Brandy?

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<v Speaker 3>If it were what we got left, we got douce,

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<v Speaker 3>we got the DT award.

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<v Speaker 1>No, we don't have none of them things. BT is

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<v Speaker 1>not black owned, nor is for real because he was

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<v Speaker 1>just in the whole thing with who owns do say

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<v Speaker 1>all simately lois vatan right like the whole like the

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<v Speaker 1>whole you know, conglomerate. Yeah, so you know these are partnerships.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're not good for the brand.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of times though.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of times though, because I think with the

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<v Speaker 3>situation with Diddy, it made people be like, oh, this

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<v Speaker 3>is what I'm talking about. Black people don't know how to

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<v Speaker 3>do business. And then they have the conversation about jay

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<v Speaker 3>Z and him being a capitalist, and I think people

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<v Speaker 3>need to understand the two of like, you got to

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<v Speaker 3>scale up before you can.

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<v Speaker 2>Completely own it.

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<v Speaker 3>You wouldn't be able to put duce out the way

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<v Speaker 3>that it is if jay Z primarily but we don't

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<v Speaker 3>have a lot of private label, black owned companies that

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<v Speaker 3>can help him scale. So it's like, what the hell

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<v Speaker 3>is he supposed to do? So everything is only gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be black on to a certain extent. They got mad

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<v Speaker 3>at remember Honey pot, Yes they got mad at her

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<v Speaker 3>when she sold. They got mad at uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we get mad.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's like, yo, what we how are we supposed

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<v Speaker 3>to scale the business there? But a like running back,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I feel like I.

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<v Speaker 2>Feel like capitalists.

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<v Speaker 1>That's one of the things I know, right, But that

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<v Speaker 1>is one of the things they never wanted us to learn,

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<v Speaker 1>especially like during slavery and shit, like the science of business,

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<v Speaker 1>because anytime a black person creates something and it gets

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<v Speaker 1>so big, they come in with this number you can't deny, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and you sell the thing with honeypot is like you

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<v Speaker 1>start looking at the ingredients on shit before and after,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, after his bot. I'm not sticking that up.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, cuci no more. I'm sorry because we already

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<v Speaker 1>know y'all have been fucked with the hair products for

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<v Speaker 1>how many years? You got black women with cervical cans

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<v Speaker 1>and all the type of shit going on, Like we

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<v Speaker 1>have to be concerned about those things. And if we

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<v Speaker 1>are the ones that put your your product, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>at the top, we do, you do owe some type

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<v Speaker 1>of loyalty a little bit, you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I understand, like the partnership's black effect, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in partnership with iHeart, a lot of people's talking shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh Charlamagne don't own as yes he does, he owns

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<v Speaker 1>fifty one percent, right, so it's still his business. But

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<v Speaker 1>in order to get as big as you want to get,

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<v Speaker 1>you do have to partner with these bigger, bigger companies.

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<v Speaker 1>But at some point, I don't know, at some point

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<v Speaker 1>we got to take a stance and we got to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to put other people in places, just not

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<v Speaker 1>today with some of these brands.

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<v Speaker 3>Y'all wion't take a staying nothing. But we collected they.

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<v Speaker 1>Want to it out there. Get Timeline.

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<v Speaker 2>Y'all listen after she put that tattoo in her face,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, Lord, just Jesus takes you moving back.

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<v Speaker 3>In with him?

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<v Speaker 2>She moved in with him, jail, I don't want it.

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<v Speaker 2>She moved back into the crew. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what what that looks like for her,

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<v Speaker 3>and that baby moved back into the crib.

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<v Speaker 2>And once that.

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<v Speaker 3>Happened, I said, I don't know what type of what

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<v Speaker 3>is over there. The way he be busting down. I

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<v Speaker 3>never want to be that.

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<v Speaker 1>I never want Those are demons.

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<v Speaker 2>I just met one of the girls.

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<v Speaker 1>Get away, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I just met one of those. Is crazy. I just

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<v Speaker 2>met one of those.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, I can I can see the demon like.

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<v Speaker 1>Get away, get away?

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<v Speaker 2>All right? So now did y'all see over the weekend,

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<v Speaker 2>this mother she was excited that her daughter was embarking

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<v Speaker 2>on her business as a waxer, and she was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm teaching my child a generational wealth. And she done

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<v Speaker 2>had twenty four clients, and then we see this image

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<v Speaker 2>of this young baby over a woman's vagina, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and the vagina has blurred out obviously. But this lady

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<v Speaker 2>went to jail yesterday. They arrested her for sexual child

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<v Speaker 2>abuse or child abuse neglect. I don't want to say

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<v Speaker 2>sexual child neglect. How do y'all feel about that? Do

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<v Speaker 2>y'all feel like that was actually child neglect?

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely? I felt like it should have happened before it happened.

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<v Speaker 1>I was hope, not hoping, because I find it so hard.

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<v Speaker 1>As much as as much shit as I talk, I

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<v Speaker 1>do like have a tough time super condemning people, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so I try to like play devil's advocates. Sometimes this

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<v Speaker 1>is a situation where I cannot play Devil's advocate because

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<v Speaker 1>at what point she just didn't have the wherewithal to

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<v Speaker 1>know that that's child abuse.

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<v Speaker 2>She was ignorant. I don't feel like it was like

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<v Speaker 2>a sexual act of any sort. I just feel like

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<v Speaker 2>she was an ignorant mom who thought this was her

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<v Speaker 2>trying to give her child some education so she could

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<v Speaker 2>make money for herself. That's what it's five.

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<v Speaker 1>Years old, working a seven hours shift. Yeah, that's child later.

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<v Speaker 2>The hardest, but not even the ship.

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<v Speaker 3>It was hard to see the little girl with the

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<v Speaker 3>like this in between the spread legs, Like I just

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<v Speaker 3>feel like there are certain things that you're as a

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<v Speaker 3>as a kid, as a baby that just shouldn't you

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<v Speaker 3>shouldn't be exposed to right away. But I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>about y'alling how y'all grew up. I mean, my mom

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<v Speaker 3>was to have me waxing. No no, I for keep forgetting.

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<v Speaker 3>I can say certain words on her. My mom was

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<v Speaker 3>having me waxing, no coochies and nothing like that. But

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<v Speaker 3>I was the oldest in the household, and I'll be

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<v Speaker 3>watching this this girl she writes letters to the oldest

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<v Speaker 3>black like their older black daughters or whatever, and she

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<v Speaker 3>talks about how like years I don't know if this

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<v Speaker 3>was the oldest child or not, but she talks about

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<v Speaker 3>how you'res exposed and stuff so early, and it's because,

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<v Speaker 3>like your parents, OKI are trying to get you ready

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<v Speaker 3>because the world they did, you know, they sposed so

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<v Speaker 3>much sh her way, but it takes away from you

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<v Speaker 3>being five. She should be cocoa melon and not like

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<v Speaker 3>waxing people's melons for real. Like that shit is crazy

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<v Speaker 3>to me.

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<v Speaker 2>It was hard to watch, I agree, and especially like

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<v Speaker 2>you don't even really understand your own anatomy yet at

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<v Speaker 2>five years old, so to be looking at some adult

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<v Speaker 2>women's vagina, like it's just a lot, it's too much.

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<v Speaker 3>You still say in private parts and don't forget that

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<v Speaker 3>people are fucking That's what.

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to wax in these people exactly. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I told Sam earlier. Like what if? Because I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like, for whatever reason, we think women are exempt

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<v Speaker 1>from being predators when they are apex predators a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of them. Okay, so you have women in the community

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<v Speaker 1>who probably eviolated little girls before. Now they know that

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<v Speaker 1>this particular wax pallar has five year olds giving wax jobs, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>why would I not go get waxed by this five

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<v Speaker 1>year old? If that's the type of shit I'm into?

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<v Speaker 1>Like her mom put her in danger, Yes, her mom

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<v Speaker 1>put her in danger.

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<v Speaker 3>Wax is high because if it was a man, so

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<v Speaker 3>many very like are you say if it was a

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<v Speaker 3>man doing it like a man like letting his son

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<v Speaker 3>do that type of shit, like the world would be

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<v Speaker 3>an uproar?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, what they don't?

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<v Speaker 3>Because I feel like people got mad at no, for real,

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like men people got mad when Boozy was

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<v Speaker 3>talking about how he like his son was young and

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<v Speaker 3>had like what was it the sun got hit or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>But there was so many people that was like, I

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<v Speaker 3>mean shit, at least you know he not gay, Like

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<v Speaker 3>they were rationalizing it, like it's a little different with

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<v Speaker 3>you don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me tell y'all something. This makes me think of

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<v Speaker 2>a childhood story of mine where I got I got

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<v Speaker 2>a spanking for this, and I shouldn't have gotten a speaking.

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<v Speaker 2>So I remember the cnsay that we had as a kid.

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<v Speaker 2>Did I tell this story? I already No, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>But you remember the see and say you pulled the

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<v Speaker 2>string and it be like he hanged and be pointing

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<v Speaker 2>at whatever animal and it's spin around y'all. Remember, no, no, Lauren,

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<v Speaker 2>no cnsay. It was like a little toy and it

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<v Speaker 2>have like an arrow to have animals all around it

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<v Speaker 2>and the string and it'll spin around and it'll stop

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<v Speaker 2>on the animal and when the string goes in, it'll

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<v Speaker 2>make the animal sound. Okay, the eighties anyway, So I

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<v Speaker 2>used to love that toy, right, and my mom was

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<v Speaker 2>I think we were getting dressed to go somewhere. She

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<v Speaker 2>had me already dressed and she was in the bathroom

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<v Speaker 2>getting dressed, but she left the bathroom door open and

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<v Speaker 2>I was just sitting on the floor playing with my

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<v Speaker 2>see andsay, and I looked in the bathroom. She was

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<v Speaker 2>she wasn't clothed yet, and I saw a string hanging

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<v Speaker 2>out of her and I was like, oh, ship, my

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<v Speaker 2>mama is a I went up. I went up, I

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<v Speaker 2>went up and pulled that string. Baby, whatever was in

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<v Speaker 2>there flew out on me, and I was I was

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<v Speaker 2>like four or five years old, and I thought my

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<v Speaker 2>mama was a censa. And I got popped because then

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<v Speaker 2>she had to change my clothes. She's like, I can't

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<v Speaker 2>even stay used the bathroom by myself. And then I

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<v Speaker 2>think that was the she started lock of me out

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<v Speaker 2>the bathroom. I didn't get so did that? Did that?

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<v Speaker 3>Did that haunt you in your experience when you started.

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<v Speaker 2>Using yes, I won't even use this, won't use I

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<v Speaker 2>won't use that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I know what has happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Happened?

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<v Speaker 1>My mom is a singing rain so crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>At least that's all you pizza in the bathroom and salt.

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<v Speaker 3>At least it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Like waxing your mama.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, My mom was like, come wax me, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely some precious ship. I'm sorry. All I thought would

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<v Speaker 1>have thought about was Monique and precious, Like what are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing with your child? Man?

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<v Speaker 3>Why couldn't the mom just like put the LLC in

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<v Speaker 3>her name or you know, like some regular like regular

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<v Speaker 3>people stuff like why why do we always?

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<v Speaker 1>And then I put it on the internet.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't have been mad at if she was doing

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<v Speaker 2>armpits or lit. I would have been mad at.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, eyeb it's the heat though of the wax and

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<v Speaker 3>a five year old though.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then you put it online because she thought

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<v Speaker 1>she was right. She really thought she was right. She

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was flying. She thought it was flying.

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<v Speaker 2>My baby made seven hundred and fifty dollars a day. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>how much your baby baby? That's how she was.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, y'all listen. Have y'all been following this who

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<v Speaker 1>the fuck that I marry story on TikTok? This girl

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<v Speaker 1>her name is uh Tessa, Resa, Resa Tisa of some

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<v Speaker 1>shit like that, Resa Tisa. I watched all.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't watch it.

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<v Speaker 3>So I've been seeing people talk about the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>people were watching fifty parts of a TikTok story but

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't go watch it. Is it worth to watch?

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<v Speaker 1>She talks?

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody seems to think.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like, yes, because it's informative and some people

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<v Speaker 1>may be experiencing this ship right now, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, and like at the house confused because when

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<v Speaker 1>you're in a relationship with a pathological liar, with a narcissist,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes you think you tripping, you know, So it could

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<v Speaker 1>help a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>So what's the premise of the like happened?

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<v Speaker 1>Let me give y'all a little quick, little rundown. So

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<v Speaker 1>she met this guy on a dating website during COVID. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>she met him like that March, I believe. So COVID

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<v Speaker 1>we went in lockdown like February. Now they're in Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta ain't never really locked down, but anyway, so people

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<v Speaker 1>were still slinging dick at the beginning of COVID and so.

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<v Speaker 2>Boy and when COVID happened, let me say this, I

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<v Speaker 2>was trying to figure out how I was gonna fuck

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<v Speaker 2>through a shout curtain. I really was like trying to

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<v Speaker 2>figure out.

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<v Speaker 3>So I had a boyfriend, and so I was cool,

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<v Speaker 3>I was I was trying to figure out how I

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<v Speaker 3>was going up with a baby.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all made it through Well, obviously, y'all inn't make it

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<v Speaker 1>through COVID. If you're trying to find we made it.

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<v Speaker 1>We made it.

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<v Speaker 2>We made it through COVID. But we're gonna get it

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<v Speaker 2>to okay, We're gonna get it to your sit.

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<v Speaker 1>So apparently this guy had matched with her on two

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<v Speaker 1>different sites. This was already the first red flag, y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>He matched with her on two different dating websites under

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<v Speaker 1>two different names. Like one of the websites it was

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<v Speaker 1>a variation of his other name. She found out this

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<v Speaker 1>dude was a twin later on all type of little

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<v Speaker 1>wear shit. But he just kept giving her to run

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<v Speaker 1>around about buying a house and buying her a new car,

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<v Speaker 1>and just like a super dupa, like if the nigga

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<v Speaker 1>mouth was moving, he was lying like that's just the

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<v Speaker 1>gist of the whole thing. And so now TikTok has

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<v Speaker 1>found the guy. Right, his name is Legion, and when

0:21:40.800 --> 0:21:43.119
<v Speaker 1>I like, that's his nickname. So when I hear Legion,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking Legion and demons. Right, So this is wi

0:21:46.840 --> 0:21:50.000
<v Speaker 1>you sleep, This is so you sleeping next to And

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<v Speaker 1>she would say how he can quote the Bible and

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<v Speaker 1>all that because his father was supposedly a pastor.

0:21:54.520 --> 0:21:58.840
<v Speaker 3>It's always really wasn't a pastor. If they quote the

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<v Speaker 3>Bible and they willing to do, what's that you don't

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<v Speaker 3>have sex abstin if they wanted to be they quote

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<v Speaker 3>the Bible right off the bat.

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<v Speaker 1>She said, to be willing to sustain he's a demon

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<v Speaker 1>that as wild. Yeah, so yeah, it's fifty. No, I

0:22:28.160 --> 0:22:32.840
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't watch all fifty. I was doing every other one right.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you want the full context of the story,

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<v Speaker 1>because you see people in the comments like questioning her

0:22:37.600 --> 0:22:41.280
<v Speaker 1>about ship she had already disclosed earlier on. Yeah, like

0:22:41.359 --> 0:22:43.800
<v Speaker 1>if you watched the whole series and you know what

0:22:44.000 --> 0:22:48.000
<v Speaker 1>was happening, I'm sick in the house. So yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>watched it just because I just wanted This is a

0:22:50.720 --> 0:22:52.560
<v Speaker 1>particular story I just wanted to know about, because I

0:22:52.560 --> 0:22:54.680
<v Speaker 1>felt like, damn, why the hell I put my last

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<v Speaker 1>relationship story on TikTok, Because I mean, she's blowing up.

0:22:58.480 --> 0:23:02.679
<v Speaker 1>I would have gotten monetized first. She tripping right like

0:23:03.840 --> 0:23:07.000
<v Speaker 1>a'to late girl. No, my shit is a movie. That's

0:23:07.040 --> 0:23:09.600
<v Speaker 1>where mine's going at Because some of the things she

0:23:09.720 --> 0:23:12.280
<v Speaker 1>was saying some of the shit she was saying, Like

0:23:12.320 --> 0:23:13.800
<v Speaker 1>she said she was at work one day and he

0:23:13.880 --> 0:23:15.520
<v Speaker 1>just called her out the brum. And this is after

0:23:15.920 --> 0:23:18.560
<v Speaker 1>they got married and all of that. Within months, Okay,

0:23:18.920 --> 0:23:21.440
<v Speaker 1>she had gotten pregnant, she had a miscarriage, all the shit.

0:23:23.440 --> 0:23:25.120
<v Speaker 1>He called her at work one day and was like

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<v Speaker 1>a black some dude just pulled up at your house

0:23:27.480 --> 0:23:29.879
<v Speaker 1>and he's in her house. Okay, So they ended up

0:23:30.640 --> 0:23:35.159
<v Speaker 1>quarantining at her place. Some dude just pulled up like

0:23:35.240 --> 0:23:37.119
<v Speaker 1>calling her while she's at the nail shop, like just

0:23:37.200 --> 0:23:40.240
<v Speaker 1>disturbing her peace. Because when a narcissist never wants you

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<v Speaker 1>to relax, like they want to keep you on edge

0:23:43.160 --> 0:23:46.600
<v Speaker 1>and keep like questioning your reality. So this is the

0:23:46.680 --> 0:23:48.639
<v Speaker 1>type of shit he was doing to her, like just

0:23:49.280 --> 0:23:53.760
<v Speaker 1>playing mind games. The nigga was homeless all just a

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<v Speaker 1>real a real character. I don't know. I think it's

0:23:58.160 --> 0:24:00.520
<v Speaker 1>a mental illness. Come to find out, the he was

0:24:00.800 --> 0:24:04.639
<v Speaker 1>portraying to her his twin brother was actually living. He

0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:06.399
<v Speaker 1>lied to her and said he was a VP of

0:24:06.440 --> 0:24:10.760
<v Speaker 1>his company. He drove a BMW company car, all this

0:24:10.920 --> 0:24:14.040
<v Speaker 1>weird shit. He was paid for pussy on apps Like

0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:18.880
<v Speaker 1>it was a mess. Okay, it's a mess. But this

0:24:18.920 --> 0:24:22.080
<v Speaker 1>happened between twenty and twenty one, and she's like in

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<v Speaker 1>recovery mode. So her putting the shit on TikTok is

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<v Speaker 1>like her.

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<v Speaker 2>Therapy, a former healing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I get it. I get it girl, Okay,

0:24:32.359 --> 0:24:32.720
<v Speaker 1>but she.

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<v Speaker 3>Was so hold on. So all this happened, she left

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<v Speaker 3>on right, she left on and now she's on TikTok

0:24:41.760 --> 0:24:44.760
<v Speaker 3>talking about it. She is she date? Like why, Like,

0:24:44.960 --> 0:24:46.440
<v Speaker 3>so she's putting it out there, like is she trying

0:24:46.480 --> 0:24:50.040
<v Speaker 3>to get money back there? No, she just just just.

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<v Speaker 1>To help other women. It's like that's some real traumatizing shit.

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<v Speaker 1>So she's saying like I'm just now being able to

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<v Speaker 1>verbalize what I was going through, Like my family didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even know what I was going through. Like she was

0:25:01.600 --> 0:25:04.080
<v Speaker 1>saving face, like acting like everything was cool when her

0:25:04.119 --> 0:25:07.000
<v Speaker 1>mom came in town, Like you know, because we have

0:25:07.119 --> 0:25:09.359
<v Speaker 1>this thing where you supposed to keep your business to

0:25:09.400 --> 0:25:11.400
<v Speaker 1>yourself and your relationship. I'm not one of them, because

0:25:11.400 --> 0:25:13.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling everybody all the fuck shit you did, bitch,

0:25:14.320 --> 0:25:16.359
<v Speaker 1>because when I need somebody home, he accountable to not

0:25:16.400 --> 0:25:18.480
<v Speaker 1>fuck with you no more. My friend's gonna do it.

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<v Speaker 3>So would you be going back though, well being.

0:25:21.720 --> 0:25:24.000
<v Speaker 1>We give each other grace. You know I'm going back.

0:25:24.040 --> 0:25:25.280
<v Speaker 1>You know I'm going back for that day.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't mean I'm not to give graces. Friend, That's

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm sitting here, Like, why does the sis had

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<v Speaker 3>to have known that there was after a while in

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<v Speaker 3>there before.

0:25:32.560 --> 0:25:34.159
<v Speaker 1>I think you should keep your dumb bitch to your

0:25:34.359 --> 0:25:36.760
<v Speaker 1>your dumb bit shit to yourself sometimes, you know, until

0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:41.720
<v Speaker 1>you're really ready. Sometimes it just depends on I've never

0:25:41.800 --> 0:25:46.000
<v Speaker 1>dealt with like a pathological liar per se, so.

0:25:46.200 --> 0:25:48.240
<v Speaker 3>Where it's like so bad that you like, I noticed

0:25:48.320 --> 0:25:48.880
<v Speaker 3>nigga like.

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<v Speaker 1>He is no way pat her looking at seven hundred

0:25:51.160 --> 0:25:53.320
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollar houses talking about he got a cash down

0:25:53.400 --> 0:25:56.720
<v Speaker 1>payment because he played arena football. Bitch, you never googled

0:25:56.800 --> 0:25:59.879
<v Speaker 1>the arena football salary. They don't make no money.

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<v Speaker 2>So none of that ship was true.

0:26:03.400 --> 0:26:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Nothing. His entire life was a lie. But the way,

0:26:07.520 --> 0:26:10.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm a pet detective, and if any of our listeners,

0:26:10.040 --> 0:26:11.920
<v Speaker 1>if y'all dealing with somebody and you just got a

0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:14.160
<v Speaker 1>little inkling in your mind, this nigga who he said,

0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:16.680
<v Speaker 1>is sending to me, I'm gonna find him. I'm gonna

0:26:16.720 --> 0:26:18.600
<v Speaker 1>find all the shit about him in twenty.

0:26:18.359 --> 0:26:21.919
<v Speaker 3>Four hours all these platforms. Now, I'm just saying her, like,

0:26:22.000 --> 0:26:24.800
<v Speaker 3>how does this not like when like the first line

0:26:24.840 --> 0:26:28.040
<v Speaker 3>started to crumble, It's like, how you don't I know,

0:26:28.080 --> 0:26:29.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm a little too crazy for somebody to lie to

0:26:30.000 --> 0:26:32.880
<v Speaker 3>me that deep and that long. Like it just wouldn't fly.

0:26:33.119 --> 0:26:35.080
<v Speaker 1>It wouldn't. I'm not easily finessed so that.

0:26:35.440 --> 0:26:38.679
<v Speaker 2>But but she probably just wanted to have somebody. It

0:26:38.760 --> 0:26:41.280
<v Speaker 2>was COVID. She was probably lonely. This man was digging

0:26:41.280 --> 0:26:43.000
<v Speaker 2>her down. I'm sure they was having raw set.

0:26:43.119 --> 0:26:43.959
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she got pregnant.

0:26:44.320 --> 0:26:46.560
<v Speaker 2>Penis confuses you, so.

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<v Speaker 1>And she said he was paying.

0:26:50.280 --> 0:26:50.600
<v Speaker 2>I did.

0:26:52.520 --> 0:26:53.640
<v Speaker 3>She said he.

0:26:53.680 --> 0:26:57.040
<v Speaker 1>Was paying all the bills initially, paying all her bills initially. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So she said she really got blinded by that because

0:27:00.200 --> 0:27:02.560
<v Speaker 1>her money was her money, and this is all this

0:27:02.640 --> 0:27:06.920
<v Speaker 1>is what we be saying we want right then, sometimes.

0:27:06.520 --> 0:27:07.720
<v Speaker 2>You didn't take her to Apple Bean.

0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:14.480
<v Speaker 1>No, their first date was definitely cheesecake factory. Okay, that's

0:27:13.480 --> 0:27:21.000
<v Speaker 1>they met. Look, he got her on the very first date.

0:27:21.200 --> 0:27:22.840
<v Speaker 1>And this is all I'm gonna say about it, So

0:27:23.359 --> 0:27:25.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna stop talking about it anyway. So the first date,

0:27:25.720 --> 0:27:27.280
<v Speaker 1>she said she was on the way to meet him

0:27:27.520 --> 0:27:30.280
<v Speaker 1>to the chescake factory and her fucking tire blew out.

0:27:30.520 --> 0:27:33.080
<v Speaker 1>She called him and said, hey, I just blew out

0:27:33.119 --> 0:27:36.440
<v Speaker 1>inside of whatever, two eighty five whatever. He came, took

0:27:36.440 --> 0:27:39.760
<v Speaker 1>her to the tire shop, bought her to tire. The

0:27:39.800 --> 0:27:43.160
<v Speaker 1>pussy is in the bag, Like, you come. You don't

0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:45.840
<v Speaker 1>even know me yet, you come back.

0:27:46.600 --> 0:27:49.720
<v Speaker 3>I had one before. He was a price and he

0:27:49.880 --> 0:27:53.280
<v Speaker 3>was sucking. Honestly, right now.

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<v Speaker 2>It's about to be the season too, It's about to

0:27:57.960 --> 0:28:00.400
<v Speaker 2>be Pisce's men are fun.

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<v Speaker 3>It was such a good time over there. It was

0:28:03.160 --> 0:28:05.480
<v Speaker 3>such a good time over there. And he just they

0:28:05.600 --> 0:28:07.520
<v Speaker 3>just be knowing what to do and how to talk

0:28:07.560 --> 0:28:10.400
<v Speaker 3>to you, and like they do shit like that, like, oh,

0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:13.520
<v Speaker 3>first day I'm talking to you, my my car breaks down.

0:28:13.600 --> 0:28:16.960
<v Speaker 3>What you need a new car here because my girlfriend

0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:19.159
<v Speaker 3>not gonna be riding around with in an uber. And

0:28:19.160 --> 0:28:21.040
<v Speaker 3>then it's like, oh, I love him, And then it's

0:28:21.040 --> 0:28:24.879
<v Speaker 3>like everything changes. Now he's hell, he don't inswer the phone,

0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:27.720
<v Speaker 3>he goes days without talking to you. He's fucking the

0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:30.400
<v Speaker 3>shit out of you. And that just stops, and it's like, whoa,

0:28:30.640 --> 0:28:31.960
<v Speaker 3>now I'm outside your mom house.

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<v Speaker 2>Why are you.

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<v Speaker 1>Being weird to me?

0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:35.160
<v Speaker 2>To me yet?

0:28:35.600 --> 0:28:38.560
<v Speaker 3>And then and then once you outside the mom house,

0:28:38.680 --> 0:28:40.840
<v Speaker 3>you why you being weird to me? He still don't

0:28:40.840 --> 0:28:42.880
<v Speaker 3>pick up the phone. Then he just calls you next

0:28:42.880 --> 0:28:44.280
<v Speaker 3>week like hey, babe, what you're doing? You want to

0:28:44.320 --> 0:28:47.680
<v Speaker 3>go here? You want like like nothing happens and you're

0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:51.600
<v Speaker 3>just like, yeah, I want to go, And you can't

0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:55.080
<v Speaker 3>understand why it's like that. Like I used to call

0:28:55.160 --> 0:28:57.760
<v Speaker 3>my Jurassic Park because it's hell when you get there.

0:28:57.760 --> 0:28:58.680
<v Speaker 3>But it just seems so.

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<v Speaker 2>Y'all.

0:29:02.280 --> 0:29:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Literally if Dave, they be programming the Kouchie for sure,

0:29:07.400 --> 0:29:09.000
<v Speaker 1>and pices and men are so fine.

0:29:09.240 --> 0:29:11.560
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I had to block mine. They are and it

0:29:12.160 --> 0:29:14.920
<v Speaker 2>I had to block them. Hmm.

0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:17.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm not good at blocking and keeping you there right.

0:29:17.400 --> 0:29:19.120
<v Speaker 2>No, I had to do it this time because I

0:29:19.160 --> 0:29:23.600
<v Speaker 2>was gonna continue to fuck that man if I didn't.

0:29:24.200 --> 0:29:25.920
<v Speaker 2>Is that twenty twenty four No more?

0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:29.760
<v Speaker 3>I can't do it, I said at the top of

0:29:29.800 --> 0:29:31.520
<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty four hours. And my friends said, we leave

0:29:31.560 --> 0:29:33.600
<v Speaker 3>in all the toxic niggas behind. I sall who I'm

0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:38.000
<v Speaker 3>taking just in case I need somebody to call. I'm

0:29:38.040 --> 0:29:40.640
<v Speaker 3>gonna just you know, people to the side but they

0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:43.040
<v Speaker 3>gotta come on over a little bit shit.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, y'all, we're gonna have a commercial break and

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<v Speaker 2>we'll be right back with Lauren la Rossa.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay tuned, all right, Laura, Laura Rosa, you are relatively young,

0:29:57.080 --> 0:29:58.840
<v Speaker 1>right I want to talk about or can we talk

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<v Speaker 1>about your time at TMZ.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>You even ended up there because I was like, damn,

0:30:02.760 --> 0:30:04.120
<v Speaker 1>does she go straight from college?

0:30:04.840 --> 0:30:08.560
<v Speaker 3>So I actually I did, but I didn't. I graduated

0:30:08.600 --> 0:30:12.200
<v Speaker 3>from Delaware State University shout out to my HBCU in

0:30:12.240 --> 0:30:14.760
<v Speaker 3>twenty fourteen, and then I moved to LA. I was

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<v Speaker 3>there for about six months, and then I couldn't afford

0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:18.960
<v Speaker 3>to be there anymore, and so I were back. And

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<v Speaker 3>then I was at home in Delaware working for about

0:30:22.880 --> 0:30:24.760
<v Speaker 3>a year or two, and then I went back to

0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:26.800
<v Speaker 3>LA and then I started working for TMC. So it

0:30:26.880 --> 0:30:32.760
<v Speaker 3>was my first consistent entertainment job after college. But it

0:30:32.800 --> 0:30:36.840
<v Speaker 3>wasn't right after college, and I started from like the bottom,

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<v Speaker 3>like of And I hate when I say that because

0:30:39.360 --> 0:30:41.680
<v Speaker 3>no shade to the tour guides, but it's not the

0:30:41.720 --> 0:30:44.680
<v Speaker 3>newsroom whatsoever. I was giving tours around Hollywood. You're making

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<v Speaker 3>like fifteen dollars an hour, working two to four hours

0:30:47.880 --> 0:30:51.440
<v Speaker 3>a day. So I had like three jobs, Like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>this is me. Like out of college. I had a

0:30:53.720 --> 0:30:56.240
<v Speaker 3>great marketing job in Delaware, and I was doing entertainment

0:30:56.240 --> 0:30:58.480
<v Speaker 3>stuff on the side, and my family was like, yeah,

0:30:58.480 --> 0:31:00.280
<v Speaker 3>you're doing well, you know, just keep doing it, cute

0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:03.280
<v Speaker 3>little entertainment stuff. So when I decided to leave that

0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:06.320
<v Speaker 3>job and go for a forest, they were like the fuck,

0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:07.280
<v Speaker 3>Like why would.

0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:10.200
<v Speaker 2>You leave some go do tours.

0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:13.920
<v Speaker 3>They could until my mom could turn on the television

0:31:13.960 --> 0:31:16.920
<v Speaker 3>and actually see me on TV. And it's crazy because

0:31:16.960 --> 0:31:19.040
<v Speaker 3>she's a dreamer, Like she has a background in fashion,

0:31:19.080 --> 0:31:21.280
<v Speaker 3>sh moved to New York, the design and all that stuff.

0:31:21.640 --> 0:31:24.080
<v Speaker 3>But she's also like a very she's a money person.

0:31:24.120 --> 0:31:26.080
<v Speaker 3>So she couldn't understand me working for free, working for

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<v Speaker 3>not a lot of money, especially when I had the degree,

0:31:28.800 --> 0:31:30.760
<v Speaker 3>my degrees in marketing. I had a great job. I

0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:33.200
<v Speaker 3>was doing marketing for Barclays and you know, I was

0:31:33.240 --> 0:31:35.480
<v Speaker 3>doing a lot of things. She couldn't get it until

0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:37.320
<v Speaker 3>she could turn on the TV and see me, And

0:31:37.400 --> 0:31:41.480
<v Speaker 3>even then it was still kind of like, mm, this

0:31:41.600 --> 0:31:43.360
<v Speaker 3>is cool, but like where is it? Where we going?

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<v Speaker 1>Where the money at?

0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:45.920
<v Speaker 2>And so I was right.

0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:48.040
<v Speaker 3>So I was giving tours for like a good two

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<v Speaker 3>years before they even really started considering me for a

0:31:52.400 --> 0:31:56.080
<v Speaker 3>newsroom like job, like producing news and being on the

0:31:56.080 --> 0:31:57.000
<v Speaker 3>show market sistently.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. So this year Angela Ye left the Breakfast

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<v Speaker 2>Club and she said that it wasn't healthy working in

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<v Speaker 2>this male dominated space. Was it like that for you

0:32:08.600 --> 0:32:10.840
<v Speaker 2>at TMZ? Baby?

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<v Speaker 3>Not to take away from what Angela you went through,

0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:17.400
<v Speaker 3>but when I walked, my experience at Breakfast Club made

0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:19.800
<v Speaker 3>me realize how much I was in hell at TMD

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:23.800
<v Speaker 3>in that news room. I remember my second day there

0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:28.080
<v Speaker 3>at Breakfast Club, I text all of my friends from

0:32:28.120 --> 0:32:31.360
<v Speaker 3>TMZ that still work there right now and was like,

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<v Speaker 3>the environment that we have been working in for all.

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<v Speaker 1>Of these years is not it's hostile.

0:32:36.000 --> 0:32:40.080
<v Speaker 3>It's very dark, it's very draining, it is very you know,

0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:42.239
<v Speaker 3>it's a news desk environment. And I don't know if

0:32:42.240 --> 0:32:44.360
<v Speaker 3>you guys have ever been in the newsroom that is

0:32:44.800 --> 0:32:47.400
<v Speaker 3>like any newsroom, whether it TMS or not, is very

0:32:47.520 --> 0:32:51.000
<v Speaker 3>like because there's something always happening. You're yelling, you're talking,

0:32:51.280 --> 0:32:53.640
<v Speaker 3>you love somebody, you hate them. That's just our industry

0:32:53.640 --> 0:32:57.080
<v Speaker 3>in general. But and I don't have anything to compare

0:32:57.080 --> 0:32:58.800
<v Speaker 3>it to. I never had anything to compare it to

0:32:58.880 --> 0:33:00.960
<v Speaker 3>until I went to Breakfast Club and got the you know,

0:33:01.000 --> 0:33:03.240
<v Speaker 3>work with them for some time. And when I did,

0:33:03.360 --> 0:33:07.600
<v Speaker 3>I was just like whoa, Yeah, So I not only

0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:10.160
<v Speaker 3>did I experience, like, you know, it being a male

0:33:10.240 --> 0:33:12.280
<v Speaker 3>dominated space, but you got to think about it, like,

0:33:12.880 --> 0:33:15.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm very young in my career at the time when

0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:18.840
<v Speaker 3>I start there, I'm black at the time. You had

0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:21.960
<v Speaker 3>Ben who was on air, Raquel who was on air,

0:33:22.160 --> 0:33:25.680
<v Speaker 3>and then me Charles. You know who's there, but Charles's

0:33:25.720 --> 0:33:28.160
<v Speaker 3>EP so he's kind of removed a lot from certain

0:33:28.160 --> 0:33:30.240
<v Speaker 3>things sometimes even though he's in the day to day

0:33:30.240 --> 0:33:32.640
<v Speaker 3>conversations and tries to support as much as he can.

0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:33.520
<v Speaker 3>Charles get so much shit.

0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:34.880
<v Speaker 1>But is that the guy with the dress.

0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:37.200
<v Speaker 3>He's had to help hold me down in certain Yeah,

0:33:37.200 --> 0:33:38.480
<v Speaker 3>the guy with the dress, he's had to hold me

0:33:38.520 --> 0:33:40.280
<v Speaker 3>down in a certain situations. So I never give him

0:33:40.280 --> 0:33:42.680
<v Speaker 3>too much shit. But I always make the joke that,

0:33:42.720 --> 0:33:44.680
<v Speaker 3>like during Black History went like we count him half

0:33:44.680 --> 0:33:46.480
<v Speaker 3>the time because you know, it just depends on where

0:33:46.480 --> 0:33:50.560
<v Speaker 3>he fell. But it's all love. But like all I had,

0:33:50.560 --> 0:33:52.400
<v Speaker 3>so I had that support when I came in and

0:33:52.440 --> 0:33:54.120
<v Speaker 3>as a tour guy, you got to be on the show.

0:33:54.160 --> 0:33:56.200
<v Speaker 3>So I was on the show a lot even before

0:33:56.200 --> 0:33:58.120
<v Speaker 3>I got on the news desk, but like you know,

0:33:58.200 --> 0:33:59.959
<v Speaker 3>my text were real quick. I'm in and out there

0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:02.160
<v Speaker 3>barely listening to Mevan had to repeat a lot of

0:34:02.160 --> 0:34:03.520
<v Speaker 3>what I was saying most of the time for people

0:34:03.560 --> 0:34:07.000
<v Speaker 3>to even hear me, and then I would leave once

0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:10.319
<v Speaker 3>I actually got on the news desk, And that's a

0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:12.879
<v Speaker 3>whole different beast because now you're part of a group

0:34:12.920 --> 0:34:15.600
<v Speaker 3>of like maybe ten people who are breaking news for

0:34:15.680 --> 0:34:18.279
<v Speaker 3>the world and controlling the conversation around entertainment news for

0:34:18.320 --> 0:34:21.399
<v Speaker 3>the world. I'm the only at this point. Now Van

0:34:21.560 --> 0:34:25.879
<v Speaker 3>has gone, and then Raquel decided to leave as well too,

0:34:26.320 --> 0:34:28.680
<v Speaker 3>it's just me. So not only am I the only

0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:30.880
<v Speaker 3>black person on the news desk, I'm the only black

0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:34.600
<v Speaker 3>woman on the news desk. So I'm up against number

0:34:34.640 --> 0:34:38.360
<v Speaker 3>one Black entertainment and Black news, in my opinion, not

0:34:38.440 --> 0:34:40.400
<v Speaker 3>being valued the way that it should have been for

0:34:40.480 --> 0:34:42.960
<v Speaker 3>it to drive so much of their website and their content.

0:34:43.760 --> 0:34:46.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm up against being new in the room and in

0:34:46.239 --> 0:34:48.240
<v Speaker 3>the space and not feeling like I had that much power.

0:34:48.360 --> 0:34:50.160
<v Speaker 3>For a very long time, I felt like that, so

0:34:50.200 --> 0:34:52.279
<v Speaker 3>I didn't know how to approach, you know, when I

0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:54.480
<v Speaker 3>wanted to push back on certain things and like whatever.

0:34:54.480 --> 0:34:56.880
<v Speaker 3>For the show, it was cute like I felt, you know,

0:34:56.920 --> 0:34:58.520
<v Speaker 3>on the show, I could say and do certain things

0:34:58.560 --> 0:35:00.759
<v Speaker 3>because that's what they wanted for the show. But in

0:35:00.800 --> 0:35:02.960
<v Speaker 3>real life and we're day to day working with each other,

0:35:03.200 --> 0:35:05.319
<v Speaker 3>there were things that were being that were happening that

0:35:05.320 --> 0:35:07.440
<v Speaker 3>I didn't feel comfortable with speaking up about to a

0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:11.799
<v Speaker 3>certain extent, just bringing ideas to the table and just

0:35:11.840 --> 0:35:14.799
<v Speaker 3>watching stuff happen and not even news related, but just

0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:16.960
<v Speaker 3>like with the people that I'm working with and colleagues,

0:35:17.040 --> 0:35:20.040
<v Speaker 3>and you know, these little microaggressions and things that I

0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:22.960
<v Speaker 3>started to see and understand that I think then he

0:35:23.000 --> 0:35:26.160
<v Speaker 3>did a really good job of making things funny and

0:35:26.200 --> 0:35:29.280
<v Speaker 3>making things fun but shielding me from a lot of stuff.

0:35:29.320 --> 0:35:32.920
<v Speaker 3>And it was from day one, like even when I

0:35:32.920 --> 0:35:35.480
<v Speaker 3>didn't know him, Like I remember I walked in and

0:35:35.520 --> 0:35:37.239
<v Speaker 3>he was like, hey, I'm being what's your name? Like

0:35:37.280 --> 0:35:42.120
<v Speaker 3>he took the time to come over. It wasn't super love.

0:35:42.440 --> 0:35:45.360
<v Speaker 3>I love being so much like because he just always

0:35:45.400 --> 0:35:47.839
<v Speaker 3>even before he really knew me, he always looked out

0:35:47.880 --> 0:35:50.960
<v Speaker 3>for me, and I didn't understand how much of a

0:35:51.320 --> 0:35:54.160
<v Speaker 3>kind of like a privilege to have a black man

0:35:54.239 --> 0:35:56.840
<v Speaker 3>in a space like that that understood how important it

0:35:56.920 --> 0:35:59.640
<v Speaker 3>was to do that was until he wasn't there anymore,

0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:01.319
<v Speaker 3>and then I was like, oh shit, so like now

0:36:01.360 --> 0:36:03.359
<v Speaker 3>I got so now I got a fight and it's

0:36:03.400 --> 0:36:05.839
<v Speaker 3>just me and it's just whatever. So I went through

0:36:05.840 --> 0:36:07.600
<v Speaker 3>a lot of different stuff, Like there were times there's

0:36:07.640 --> 0:36:09.920
<v Speaker 3>so much stuff that didn't make it to air that

0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:12.359
<v Speaker 3>like sometimes I wish it didn't make it to air

0:36:12.400 --> 0:36:14.080
<v Speaker 3>because I think that it would have started a conversation

0:36:14.200 --> 0:36:17.640
<v Speaker 3>internally and externally that on a like a major scale

0:36:17.640 --> 0:36:20.680
<v Speaker 3>that was needed just about like black women in like

0:36:20.840 --> 0:36:24.200
<v Speaker 3>major media spaces, black people in spaces where they are

0:36:24.280 --> 0:36:30.040
<v Speaker 3>the only black content, black news, black celebrity. When the

0:36:30.120 --> 0:36:35.719
<v Speaker 3>Kanye West was Kyrie Irving, stuff was happening. Mind you,

0:36:35.880 --> 0:36:38.400
<v Speaker 3>this is my first time too being exposed to like

0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:39.600
<v Speaker 3>like I grew up in a hood and like when

0:36:39.600 --> 0:36:42.960
<v Speaker 3>I my school was Innmcity School, So I was the majority.

0:36:42.520 --> 0:36:43.120
<v Speaker 2>In my schools.

0:36:43.120 --> 0:36:45.919
<v Speaker 3>I went to HBCU, I was the majority. My work

0:36:45.960 --> 0:36:48.120
<v Speaker 3>space is all of my life have always been the

0:36:48.120 --> 0:36:51.160
<v Speaker 3>only places that I wasn't the majority. I was the minority.

0:36:51.680 --> 0:36:54.080
<v Speaker 3>So this was my first time working in space where

0:36:54.200 --> 0:36:56.080
<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm working with people that are like, you know,

0:36:56.120 --> 0:36:59.319
<v Speaker 3>there's a bunch of different religions and like whatever. And

0:36:59.360 --> 0:37:01.719
<v Speaker 3>when the Kyrie Irving stuff happened, I remember it was

0:37:01.760 --> 0:37:04.759
<v Speaker 3>a culture shock for me because a lot of what

0:37:04.880 --> 0:37:07.480
<v Speaker 3>was happening. And like even with Nick Cannon when he

0:37:07.560 --> 0:37:10.080
<v Speaker 3>said those kindments that he said, I remember a lot

0:37:10.080 --> 0:37:12.360
<v Speaker 3>of the things. I'm like, I grew up here in

0:37:12.400 --> 0:37:14.680
<v Speaker 3>some of that in my household, and that's what I

0:37:14.760 --> 0:37:17.200
<v Speaker 3>was taught. I didn't know that it hurt people. I

0:37:17.200 --> 0:37:19.439
<v Speaker 3>didn't know that, you know, to a certain extent, certain

0:37:19.440 --> 0:37:21.320
<v Speaker 3>things weren't okay, Like I had no idea.

0:37:21.680 --> 0:37:23.440
<v Speaker 2>And it was the same thing with our stuff, Like

0:37:23.520 --> 0:37:24.640
<v Speaker 2>I had to teach certain.

0:37:24.440 --> 0:37:26.960
<v Speaker 3>People why you don't ask me about how long my

0:37:27.000 --> 0:37:28.920
<v Speaker 3>hair took the break down every single time I get

0:37:28.920 --> 0:37:31.799
<v Speaker 3>my braids done, Like I'm not a science project bro.

0:37:31.920 --> 0:37:33.839
<v Speaker 3>Like there was so much that we had to like

0:37:34.000 --> 0:37:36.439
<v Speaker 3>teach each other, and I was just like, oh shit,

0:37:36.600 --> 0:37:39.239
<v Speaker 3>like this is real. But there was no protection. It

0:37:39.320 --> 0:37:41.640
<v Speaker 3>was just like me and I didn't realize until I

0:37:41.719 --> 0:37:45.359
<v Speaker 3>left again how much that fucked with me. Like on

0:37:45.400 --> 0:37:48.960
<v Speaker 3>a day to day, so I encountered that. But and

0:37:49.000 --> 0:37:51.440
<v Speaker 3>again I don't want to take away from Angelie's experience,

0:37:51.560 --> 0:37:53.879
<v Speaker 3>but when I walked into the breakfast club that time

0:37:53.880 --> 0:37:56.400
<v Speaker 3>that I was there, I was like, I wish that

0:37:56.719 --> 0:37:58.480
<v Speaker 3>every day of my work life. When I was at

0:37:58.480 --> 0:38:00.399
<v Speaker 3>TMZ felt like this, I could have been so much

0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:02.959
<v Speaker 3>better of an employee. I mean, I did my thing,

0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:06.320
<v Speaker 3>but it would have been happier, different, Like I felt

0:38:06.800 --> 0:38:09.120
<v Speaker 3>happier I would I would have felt like even in

0:38:09.200 --> 0:38:13.040
<v Speaker 3>times because you know, when you talking topics and culture

0:38:13.160 --> 0:38:14.879
<v Speaker 3>like all this stuff, some of this stuff get very easy,

0:38:15.040 --> 0:38:16.920
<v Speaker 3>like we're not gonna all agree whether we all look

0:38:16.920 --> 0:38:20.920
<v Speaker 3>alike or not. But although I felt safe and comfortable

0:38:20.920 --> 0:38:23.160
<v Speaker 3>to disagree, it took me time to get to that

0:38:23.200 --> 0:38:26.000
<v Speaker 3>point at TMD, like it was a lot of times

0:38:26.000 --> 0:38:28.200
<v Speaker 3>where like I didn't really understand myself as an asset

0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:31.120
<v Speaker 3>in the room and I didn't know like they using

0:38:31.160 --> 0:38:33.040
<v Speaker 3>the fuck out of me. I mean like when being

0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:36.240
<v Speaker 3>got fired. I had never hosted any of the shows

0:38:36.280 --> 0:38:39.040
<v Speaker 3>by myself. Mind you, TMZ is in La La is

0:38:39.120 --> 0:38:42.200
<v Speaker 3>number one market for television. TMZ is you know they're

0:38:42.280 --> 0:38:44.279
<v Speaker 3>huge at what they do, so to be on those

0:38:44.320 --> 0:38:48.080
<v Speaker 3>platforms on television is a major thing. The day that

0:38:48.239 --> 0:38:51.360
<v Speaker 3>being got fired. The next day they say, hey, do

0:38:51.400 --> 0:38:56.920
<v Speaker 3>you want to host TMZ Live? And I was like, yeah, okay,

0:38:57.400 --> 0:39:00.120
<v Speaker 3>And it didn't dawn on me until I'm hosting in

0:39:00.239 --> 0:39:03.399
<v Speaker 3>the seat. Y'all niggas only got me here because y'all

0:39:03.400 --> 0:39:07.160
<v Speaker 3>want pay six looking like racist people. It's because of

0:39:07.160 --> 0:39:10.920
<v Speaker 3>the conversation that was surrounding in me. If I had known, Like,

0:39:11.040 --> 0:39:13.480
<v Speaker 3>It's not like I was oblivious or green, but I

0:39:13.480 --> 0:39:16.040
<v Speaker 3>think I was just so in the this is just work,

0:39:16.080 --> 0:39:17.359
<v Speaker 3>this is just what I do, this is just how

0:39:17.360 --> 0:39:19.319
<v Speaker 3>they use me. I'm just happy to be here. That

0:39:19.440 --> 0:39:22.400
<v Speaker 3>I just like went with it until I hosted and

0:39:22.480 --> 0:39:25.120
<v Speaker 3>my Twitter went crazy. People were like, who the hell

0:39:25.200 --> 0:39:27.160
<v Speaker 3>is this black girl? Why would she coming host? After

0:39:27.400 --> 0:39:29.440
<v Speaker 3>what they did to THEND then had to get on

0:39:29.440 --> 0:39:32.080
<v Speaker 3>Twitter and be like, this is my sister. Leave alone.

0:39:32.360 --> 0:39:34.719
<v Speaker 3>But and now I was like, oh shit, like I'm

0:39:34.760 --> 0:39:37.719
<v Speaker 3>the pond right now. Like so, once I realized that,

0:39:37.800 --> 0:39:40.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, okay, bad, y'all want to play, let's play.

0:39:41.080 --> 0:39:44.319
<v Speaker 3>Y'all need me, I need y'all. I'm an asset. I

0:39:44.360 --> 0:39:46.160
<v Speaker 3>don't agree with this. I don't agree with that I'm

0:39:46.200 --> 0:39:48.600
<v Speaker 3>gonna do this, I'm gonna do that, and y'all need me,

0:39:48.920 --> 0:39:50.840
<v Speaker 3>so we'll see where it lies. And now there were

0:39:50.840 --> 0:39:52.359
<v Speaker 3>so many times I would call my manager, ya, I'm

0:39:52.360 --> 0:39:55.799
<v Speaker 3>probablynn got fired to day, like what's next for us?

0:39:55.880 --> 0:39:58.840
<v Speaker 3>Because I d sure told them off today on air that.

0:40:00.440 --> 0:40:04.480
<v Speaker 1>Exchange you and Harvey had after the Kenosha shooting. The

0:40:04.520 --> 0:40:07.640
<v Speaker 1>little boy Kyle Rittenhouse had gotten where he got off.

0:40:07.680 --> 0:40:11.200
<v Speaker 1>He didn't get convicted. They exchanged you and him had

0:40:11.239 --> 0:40:13.279
<v Speaker 1>that day. Is that kind of what led up to

0:40:13.320 --> 0:40:13.960
<v Speaker 1>you resigning?

0:40:15.840 --> 0:40:18.840
<v Speaker 3>No, And that was early in the game, Like that

0:40:19.040 --> 0:40:22.040
<v Speaker 3>was like right after all of the protest stuff that happened,

0:40:22.040 --> 0:40:23.560
<v Speaker 3>and kind of, you know, coming off all the George

0:40:23.560 --> 0:40:26.880
<v Speaker 3>Floyd stuff, there have been way more heated. Like imagine

0:40:26.920 --> 0:40:31.080
<v Speaker 3>being the only person that is willing to talk back

0:40:31.239 --> 0:40:33.719
<v Speaker 3>when George Floyd and a out Ivrey got killed and

0:40:33.800 --> 0:40:36.480
<v Speaker 3>having to teach them about we put up a Juneteenth

0:40:36.520 --> 0:40:39.040
<v Speaker 3>post and we put by I keep saying, well, I'm

0:40:39.080 --> 0:40:41.040
<v Speaker 3>so used to being there. I remember they had put

0:40:41.120 --> 0:40:43.880
<v Speaker 3>up a they were prepping a Juneteenth Post to go

0:40:43.920 --> 0:40:46.080
<v Speaker 3>live on the website because everybody was so black and

0:40:46.160 --> 0:40:49.160
<v Speaker 3>all that during that time, right and they wanted to

0:40:49.239 --> 0:40:51.520
<v Speaker 3>use the American flag as a part of the art

0:40:51.560 --> 0:40:54.120
<v Speaker 3>for the Juneteenth Post and I had to get on

0:40:54.160 --> 0:40:56.960
<v Speaker 3>the phone and say, Yo, what's trunk for the race war?

0:40:57.440 --> 0:40:59.160
<v Speaker 3>Like the whole point of Juneteenth is the fact that

0:40:59.160 --> 0:41:01.600
<v Speaker 3>we don't feel welcome here, Like why would you use

0:41:01.640 --> 0:41:03.800
<v Speaker 3>the American flag, which is a part of the constitution

0:41:03.920 --> 0:41:05.920
<v Speaker 3>that we feel like it has still enslaved us and

0:41:05.920 --> 0:41:07.560
<v Speaker 3>we're celebrating the date that we found out that we

0:41:07.600 --> 0:41:09.680
<v Speaker 3>ain't got shit to do with that, Like y'all not

0:41:09.719 --> 0:41:12.360
<v Speaker 3>getting it, And they were like, oh, you're being too emotional.

0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:13.800
<v Speaker 2>Like I had to.

0:41:14.440 --> 0:41:17.360
<v Speaker 3>I had to Charles, and I called. When I called Charles,

0:41:18.160 --> 0:41:21.040
<v Speaker 3>Charles didn't fully understand it, but he heard me out,

0:41:21.480 --> 0:41:23.600
<v Speaker 3>and once I explained it, he was like, you're right,

0:41:23.600 --> 0:41:25.880
<v Speaker 3>we're gonna change it. Send me the correct flag and

0:41:25.920 --> 0:41:27.400
<v Speaker 3>correct colors, and we'll make sure that you know what

0:41:27.440 --> 0:41:29.319
<v Speaker 3>I mean. Having to do stuff like that on and

0:41:29.360 --> 0:41:31.920
<v Speaker 3>off air. By the time of the Dyling Root stuff

0:41:32.040 --> 0:41:33.919
<v Speaker 3>had become so normal to me, and I think God

0:41:33.960 --> 0:41:36.480
<v Speaker 3>for that experience. It was tough in the beginning, Like

0:41:36.600 --> 0:41:40.160
<v Speaker 3>I remember, I was like crying every day, Like oh,

0:41:40.239 --> 0:41:42.640
<v Speaker 3>I was like it just the pressure of it, like

0:41:42.760 --> 0:41:45.000
<v Speaker 3>they're literally making you speak for every black person in

0:41:45.040 --> 0:41:46.520
<v Speaker 3>the world, and it's like you never feel like you

0:41:46.520 --> 0:41:48.439
<v Speaker 3>can get it right. You know how I really shit

0:41:48.480 --> 0:41:50.600
<v Speaker 3>can get if you say something wrong, but not even

0:41:50.680 --> 0:41:52.440
<v Speaker 3>just saying or doing things wrong, but like you're not

0:41:52.560 --> 0:41:55.000
<v Speaker 3>really come from a place where like my friends is

0:41:55.040 --> 0:41:57.080
<v Speaker 3>really getting beat up by police. Before this shit was

0:41:57.120 --> 0:41:59.880
<v Speaker 3>cute to talk about on Instagram, my brother my mom

0:42:00.360 --> 0:42:02.919
<v Speaker 3>was going to you know, showing up the court cases

0:42:02.920 --> 0:42:05.680
<v Speaker 3>where police wouldn't show up because my brother resisted the rest.

0:42:05.680 --> 0:42:08.120
<v Speaker 3>But y'all fucked him up, so of course he resisted

0:42:08.160 --> 0:42:09.239
<v Speaker 3>the rest. You know what I mean, Like this is

0:42:09.280 --> 0:42:11.960
<v Speaker 3>real for me. It's not just a segment on a

0:42:12.000 --> 0:42:14.359
<v Speaker 3>news show for me. So I took things a lot

0:42:14.360 --> 0:42:16.239
<v Speaker 3>more persons than they did, and it would get on

0:42:16.320 --> 0:42:18.680
<v Speaker 3>my nerves and they wouldn't understand it. So we had

0:42:18.680 --> 0:42:21.919
<v Speaker 3>been through so much shit, Like the the pivotal points

0:42:21.960 --> 0:42:24.759
<v Speaker 3>for me when I was like, yo, how much more

0:42:24.840 --> 0:42:28.520
<v Speaker 3>mentally are you gonna put yourself through anywhere? Not even

0:42:28.680 --> 0:42:32.440
<v Speaker 3>just here, was when we had the conversations about Kanye

0:42:32.680 --> 0:42:36.440
<v Speaker 3>and the Kyrie irving, and we had had I tried

0:42:36.440 --> 0:42:39.120
<v Speaker 3>to handle it in a way where like I understood

0:42:39.120 --> 0:42:42.759
<v Speaker 3>where they were coming from. Right, Like, there were people

0:42:42.800 --> 0:42:45.400
<v Speaker 3>that I was working with at TMZ whose grandparents were

0:42:46.440 --> 0:42:49.319
<v Speaker 3>a part of like a lot of like the like

0:42:49.560 --> 0:42:52.239
<v Speaker 3>the into Semitic comments and like the genocide, like this,

0:42:52.360 --> 0:42:55.280
<v Speaker 3>the different things they had been through. It's real close

0:42:55.320 --> 0:42:57.680
<v Speaker 3>for them, like literally their grandparents. Like I have a

0:42:57.719 --> 0:42:59.840
<v Speaker 3>friend who was telling me about her grandmother and losing

0:42:59.840 --> 0:43:01.800
<v Speaker 3>her and all that stuff and why Kanye hurt he

0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:04.440
<v Speaker 3>or whatever, And I took that and I listened to it.

0:43:04.480 --> 0:43:07.120
<v Speaker 3>But I also felt like on the other side of things,

0:43:07.160 --> 0:43:10.000
<v Speaker 3>there was some things that were happening, and my point

0:43:10.080 --> 0:43:12.440
<v Speaker 3>to them was, as a platform, we have a responsibility

0:43:12.440 --> 0:43:15.000
<v Speaker 3>to be fair and not lean off of emotion, and

0:43:15.080 --> 0:43:16.960
<v Speaker 3>the people in power here right now are not being

0:43:17.400 --> 0:43:21.040
<v Speaker 3>It's all very personally emotionally driven, and we're humans, so

0:43:21.360 --> 0:43:23.839
<v Speaker 3>I understand why it's happening, but like you know, as

0:43:23.840 --> 0:43:25.640
<v Speaker 3>a person that's here, I just want to put that

0:43:25.680 --> 0:43:27.719
<v Speaker 3>in the forefront before we have any of these conversations.

0:43:27.760 --> 0:43:30.440
<v Speaker 3>That shit went off the window when the conversation started,

0:43:30.560 --> 0:43:33.160
<v Speaker 3>right and I was just like, bro, I got to

0:43:33.200 --> 0:43:35.919
<v Speaker 3>get to a place in my career where I can

0:43:36.000 --> 0:43:38.399
<v Speaker 3>say I'm not okay with something and walk away from it.

0:43:38.440 --> 0:43:40.239
<v Speaker 3>And as long as I sit up under this brain

0:43:41.160 --> 0:43:43.879
<v Speaker 3>and just be the black girl TMZ, I'm never gonna

0:43:43.880 --> 0:43:45.680
<v Speaker 3>be able to do that. Like I gotta build audience.

0:43:45.719 --> 0:43:47.279
<v Speaker 3>I got It's gonna be tough. You want have to

0:43:47.280 --> 0:43:49.080
<v Speaker 3>build it anyway, but I gotta do it because like

0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:52.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm sitting here right now, like, are y'all fucking serious?

0:43:53.239 --> 0:43:55.640
<v Speaker 3>Like y'all want to talk about the fact that Kyrie

0:43:56.040 --> 0:43:58.920
<v Speaker 3>didn't apologize the way you wanted him to or use

0:43:58.960 --> 0:44:01.640
<v Speaker 3>the words you want him to? You know, times all

0:44:02.320 --> 0:44:06.799
<v Speaker 3>the wrong words terminology approach when it comes to me,

0:44:06.960 --> 0:44:08.279
<v Speaker 3>and I have to just think of it as a

0:44:08.280 --> 0:44:10.839
<v Speaker 3>cultural difference and go on and love y'all anyway. I'm

0:44:10.840 --> 0:44:12.960
<v Speaker 3>not trying to hear that shit like at all. Like

0:44:13.040 --> 0:44:15.520
<v Speaker 3>those are conversations that I wish made it to air

0:44:15.880 --> 0:44:19.239
<v Speaker 3>that got cut. Of course, in those instances though, I

0:44:19.320 --> 0:44:21.759
<v Speaker 3>was just like, Okay, I can only do this, but

0:44:21.920 --> 0:44:24.319
<v Speaker 3>for so long it's a great learning experience. But I

0:44:24.360 --> 0:44:25.680
<v Speaker 3>got to get to a point where I built a

0:44:25.719 --> 0:44:28.400
<v Speaker 3>platform and the name enough where know that if we

0:44:28.480 --> 0:44:30.040
<v Speaker 3>don't have these conversations, we don't really have it on.

0:44:30.080 --> 0:44:31.640
<v Speaker 3>And I'm gonna be able to call it out afterward,

0:44:31.680 --> 0:44:33.440
<v Speaker 3>if not be in fear of what might happen to

0:44:33.440 --> 0:44:34.160
<v Speaker 3>me if I do it.

0:44:34.520 --> 0:44:40.279
<v Speaker 1>M child, listen, Oh I couldn't. I couldn't do it.

0:44:40.320 --> 0:44:43.000
<v Speaker 1>I worked a corporate job and one of my biggest

0:44:43.000 --> 0:44:45.359
<v Speaker 1>things was being able to do something where I can

0:44:45.400 --> 0:44:49.360
<v Speaker 1>be myself. That's the podcast world, right, But I've definitely

0:44:49.440 --> 0:44:51.400
<v Speaker 1>been the only black girl. That's when my ask got

0:44:51.480 --> 0:44:54.440
<v Speaker 1>laid off because I'm the youngest. No kids in black

0:44:54.880 --> 0:44:57.040
<v Speaker 1>and get your ass up out of here. So I

0:44:57.120 --> 0:45:00.040
<v Speaker 1>definitely understand I couldn't do it because I was. I

0:45:00.120 --> 0:45:01.840
<v Speaker 1>was plotting on beating people up in the garage. You

0:45:01.920 --> 0:45:03.920
<v Speaker 1>have to work plenty days.

0:45:04.360 --> 0:45:07.759
<v Speaker 3>I was myself, so it just was like, no.

0:45:07.840 --> 0:45:10.239
<v Speaker 1>I've never not been myself. That's the problem when you

0:45:10.360 --> 0:45:13.719
<v Speaker 1>can't no code switching. So you be yourself. You show

0:45:13.800 --> 0:45:15.759
<v Speaker 1>up and you make it into places you can make

0:45:15.760 --> 0:45:17.759
<v Speaker 1>it where you want to be at being yourself for sure.

0:45:19.200 --> 0:45:21.479
<v Speaker 3>I didn't know that though at first I was raised

0:45:21.520 --> 0:45:22.840
<v Speaker 3>that way, but I didn't know that like I was

0:45:22.920 --> 0:45:25.440
<v Speaker 3>raised that like, nah, you're getting a wroong. You like

0:45:25.480 --> 0:45:27.320
<v Speaker 3>you don't ever sit in the room, don't say nothing.

0:45:27.719 --> 0:45:29.440
<v Speaker 3>But the more that I started to work in these

0:45:29.440 --> 0:45:32.239
<v Speaker 3>mainstream media spaces. It's just like you don't say that.

0:45:32.320 --> 0:45:35.640
<v Speaker 3>And then I come from fashion, fashion could tour fashion.

0:45:35.719 --> 0:45:38.880
<v Speaker 3>You don't say shit about nothing. So I was trained

0:45:38.920 --> 0:45:41.520
<v Speaker 3>to like get on and get along, like you know

0:45:41.520 --> 0:45:43.560
<v Speaker 3>what I mean, like eventually by the world, like the

0:45:43.600 --> 0:45:46.319
<v Speaker 3>world will bring, specially black women. The world won't teach

0:45:46.560 --> 0:45:48.200
<v Speaker 3>trying to remind you every day of while you gotta

0:45:48.280 --> 0:45:49.239
<v Speaker 3>like shut up.

0:45:49.360 --> 0:45:50.360
<v Speaker 2>Like and assimilate.

0:45:51.280 --> 0:45:54.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's I found that interview you just did recently

0:45:54.080 --> 0:45:57.560
<v Speaker 1>with Vivoca Fox interesting speaking about like going along to

0:45:57.560 --> 0:46:01.920
<v Speaker 1>get along, cause you touched on the Taraji p Henson

0:46:02.000 --> 0:46:05.400
<v Speaker 1>thing with Vivica Fox. You know, everybody saw Vivica fox

0:46:05.680 --> 0:46:09.160
<v Speaker 1>reaction to what Taraji p Henson was explaining about the

0:46:09.200 --> 0:46:12.040
<v Speaker 1>industry and not being paid with your worth blah blah blah,

0:46:12.120 --> 0:46:15.040
<v Speaker 1>and Vivica Fox said she didn't experience or didn't doesn't

0:46:15.080 --> 0:46:18.160
<v Speaker 1>have that same experience. And then in the interview with you,

0:46:18.400 --> 0:46:20.520
<v Speaker 1>she was talking about like how this is a business

0:46:20.560 --> 0:46:23.880
<v Speaker 1>of relationships. I agree, relationships is worth more than money.

0:46:24.080 --> 0:46:27.520
<v Speaker 1>So once you start burning bridges, you know, TMZ could

0:46:27.520 --> 0:46:30.120
<v Speaker 1>be a bridge that you didn't give a fuck about. Burning. Okay,

0:46:30.480 --> 0:46:33.520
<v Speaker 1>but depending on what you're trying to do in the industry,

0:46:33.560 --> 0:46:36.839
<v Speaker 1>you have to maintain relationships, right, So do you think

0:46:36.880 --> 0:46:39.680
<v Speaker 1>that she I don't. You was in her house doing

0:46:39.680 --> 0:46:41.400
<v Speaker 1>an interview, so I don't know what type of relationship

0:46:43.480 --> 0:46:44.040
<v Speaker 1>do you think?

0:46:45.000 --> 0:46:45.160
<v Speaker 2>Right?

0:46:45.239 --> 0:46:48.560
<v Speaker 1>Do you think she is one of the like there's

0:46:48.560 --> 0:46:54.120
<v Speaker 1>no way you didn't understand as Vivica Fox, are you, yes?

0:46:55.200 --> 0:46:55.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't.

0:46:55.640 --> 0:46:57.919
<v Speaker 3>I don't think that. I don't think that. I think

0:46:58.000 --> 0:47:01.120
<v Speaker 3>that because me and her we had a conversation prior

0:47:01.200 --> 0:47:05.080
<v Speaker 3>to that. Because and I just want to say, when

0:47:05.160 --> 0:47:07.680
<v Speaker 3>it comes to TMZ, I ain't done nothing that Like,

0:47:07.719 --> 0:47:09.200
<v Speaker 3>I have not done or said anything that I have

0:47:09.320 --> 0:47:12.239
<v Speaker 3>not done or said to them, and while I was

0:47:12.280 --> 0:47:14.239
<v Speaker 3>with them, So I don't believe that a bridge is burned.

0:47:14.280 --> 0:47:17.080
<v Speaker 3>They do get a little emotionally upset when you leave

0:47:17.120 --> 0:47:18.799
<v Speaker 3>because they want you to stay there. But you know

0:47:19.560 --> 0:47:22.760
<v Speaker 3>that'll be fine. But when it comes to Vivica Fox,

0:47:22.840 --> 0:47:27.040
<v Speaker 3>like me and her had a really great like even

0:47:27.040 --> 0:47:30.840
<v Speaker 3>though that was my first time meeting her that like, personally,

0:47:31.440 --> 0:47:33.360
<v Speaker 3>I felt like I was in the home of a

0:47:33.360 --> 0:47:35.279
<v Speaker 3>big sister. We had a really good big sens the

0:47:35.280 --> 0:47:38.360
<v Speaker 3>little sister conversation about, you know, her life, her career,

0:47:38.800 --> 0:47:41.560
<v Speaker 3>dealing with the controversy of like just everything. I was

0:47:41.600 --> 0:47:42.960
<v Speaker 3>telling her how new it was for me to be

0:47:43.120 --> 0:47:45.560
<v Speaker 3>on a platform like the Breakfast Club and like the

0:47:45.760 --> 0:47:49.520
<v Speaker 3>taxis strict to you the reviews. You know, it's different

0:47:49.520 --> 0:47:51.920
<v Speaker 3>when you're behind a brain like a TMZ and she

0:47:52.000 --> 0:47:53.640
<v Speaker 3>kind of you know, we talked about that, and then

0:47:53.880 --> 0:47:56.239
<v Speaker 3>I asked her, you know, do you want to talk

0:47:56.280 --> 0:47:58.200
<v Speaker 3>about the Taraji stuff? And because I didn't want to

0:47:58.200 --> 0:48:00.279
<v Speaker 3>make her uncomfortable because of the respect that I for

0:48:00.320 --> 0:48:03.080
<v Speaker 3>her and the conversation that we had around it prior

0:48:03.120 --> 0:48:06.239
<v Speaker 3>to I think that I got a chance to understand

0:48:06.320 --> 0:48:07.759
<v Speaker 3>her a little bit differently than the people that just

0:48:07.760 --> 0:48:11.000
<v Speaker 3>watch these clips. And the way I felt walking away

0:48:11.000 --> 0:48:12.920
<v Speaker 3>from it is not that she's just happy to be somewhere,

0:48:12.960 --> 0:48:15.239
<v Speaker 3>happy to be working. But number one, she come from

0:48:15.239 --> 0:48:17.760
<v Speaker 3>a different time. Like when I looked at the career

0:48:17.880 --> 0:48:20.440
<v Speaker 3>that she had during the time that Vivica Fox was

0:48:20.480 --> 0:48:23.439
<v Speaker 3>the girl, there was just her and maybe like Halle Berry,

0:48:24.920 --> 0:48:27.279
<v Speaker 3>like there weren't like there were nears. I don't think

0:48:27.320 --> 0:48:32.239
<v Speaker 3>I can't so there, but isn't I believe Bifica Fox

0:48:32.280 --> 0:48:35.160
<v Speaker 3>a little bit older than me alone, though correct the aid.

0:48:35.520 --> 0:48:37.360
<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, I think.

0:48:39.000 --> 0:48:42.200
<v Speaker 3>Okay. So for me, when I saw that, I remember

0:48:42.239 --> 0:48:44.680
<v Speaker 3>asking her, like, do you feel like your experience was

0:48:44.719 --> 0:48:47.439
<v Speaker 3>something that was a little bit different because the time

0:48:47.480 --> 0:48:50.200
<v Speaker 3>that you came along is kind of like you were

0:48:50.200 --> 0:48:52.000
<v Speaker 3>to go to for so much stuff, so you had

0:48:52.000 --> 0:48:54.799
<v Speaker 3>a little bit more different leverage. And then also too,

0:48:54.800 --> 0:48:56.200
<v Speaker 3>on top of that, I think that we have a

0:48:56.200 --> 0:48:58.719
<v Speaker 3>little bit, a lot of bit more of a privilege

0:48:58.760 --> 0:49:01.360
<v Speaker 3>to be able to like she might have thought she

0:49:01.400 --> 0:49:04.160
<v Speaker 3>was leveraging her situation and maybe it worked out for

0:49:04.320 --> 0:49:06.799
<v Speaker 3>her for what she needed. But I think now we

0:49:06.880 --> 0:49:09.040
<v Speaker 3>get a chance to really see what leverage it looks

0:49:09.080 --> 0:49:11.200
<v Speaker 3>like for real, for real, and we're trying to run

0:49:11.200 --> 0:49:14.359
<v Speaker 3>it up differently. And Taraji is a part of a

0:49:14.400 --> 0:49:17.560
<v Speaker 3>different world of like now you're gonna give me what

0:49:17.600 --> 0:49:19.120
<v Speaker 3>you're supposed to give me. And I think it's the

0:49:19.120 --> 0:49:21.040
<v Speaker 3>same thing when you talk to your grandmother about your

0:49:21.040 --> 0:49:23.680
<v Speaker 3>career decisions versus your mom or versus your sister. And

0:49:23.920 --> 0:49:26.520
<v Speaker 3>because for me, I would never describe and I don't

0:49:26.560 --> 0:49:29.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm not doing this at age Vivaica, but the older

0:49:29.760 --> 0:49:32.600
<v Speaker 3>black women in my family, I would never describe those

0:49:32.640 --> 0:49:35.279
<v Speaker 3>women as like they sit down, they shut up, and

0:49:35.280 --> 0:49:36.960
<v Speaker 3>they do whatever it needs to be done because they're

0:49:37.000 --> 0:49:39.640
<v Speaker 3>strong women, they've been through things. They put things on

0:49:39.680 --> 0:49:42.279
<v Speaker 3>her back that done the work. But their way of

0:49:43.000 --> 0:49:45.239
<v Speaker 3>we talked back was different. And that's how I look

0:49:45.280 --> 0:49:48.839
<v Speaker 3>at her. So like when she said, I didn't go

0:49:48.920 --> 0:49:50.800
<v Speaker 3>and like, you know, maybe do it the way that

0:49:50.880 --> 0:49:53.879
<v Speaker 3>Taraji did by talking about things or whatever. I caught

0:49:53.920 --> 0:49:56.680
<v Speaker 3>my team, a team heard the certain things we whatever. Right.

0:49:57.120 --> 0:50:00.640
<v Speaker 3>I think that it's just it's a very sincetive topic, right,

0:50:00.640 --> 0:50:02.400
<v Speaker 3>because you have people who are emotionally tied to what

0:50:02.440 --> 0:50:04.600
<v Speaker 3>Taragi is doing. We watch her forever, we love her forever,

0:50:04.640 --> 0:50:06.040
<v Speaker 3>and a lot of us go through the same stuff.

0:50:06.880 --> 0:50:08.879
<v Speaker 3>But I think that it's one of those conversations where

0:50:08.880 --> 0:50:11.040
<v Speaker 3>you have to realize that, like everybody has a different

0:50:11.040 --> 0:50:13.759
<v Speaker 3>place in the fight, Vivica Fox doesn't have to be

0:50:13.880 --> 0:50:16.480
<v Speaker 3>the voice of Martin Luther King of it, right. She

0:50:16.560 --> 0:50:18.480
<v Speaker 3>could be the person that's sitting at home that you

0:50:18.560 --> 0:50:20.640
<v Speaker 3>call for the bill money when Martin Luther King, you know,

0:50:20.680 --> 0:50:23.160
<v Speaker 3>it's writing that letter from Birmingham jail. And I'm not

0:50:23.200 --> 0:50:25.080
<v Speaker 3>trying to say that she's Martin Luther King or anything

0:50:25.120 --> 0:50:26.840
<v Speaker 3>like that for the people listening. But all I'm saying

0:50:26.920 --> 0:50:29.160
<v Speaker 3>is that when I talked to her, from what I

0:50:29.200 --> 0:50:31.680
<v Speaker 3>took from it is just because she didn't do it

0:50:31.719 --> 0:50:34.200
<v Speaker 3>the same way or she doesn't say that's my experience,

0:50:34.239 --> 0:50:36.560
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't mean that she didn't have inexperience of some

0:50:36.640 --> 0:50:38.920
<v Speaker 3>sort that she had to out figure out and that

0:50:39.040 --> 0:50:41.480
<v Speaker 3>change things for the Taragi to come. I don't think

0:50:41.480 --> 0:50:44.120
<v Speaker 3>that she did a good job of saying that, and

0:50:44.160 --> 0:50:46.759
<v Speaker 3>I want to be very honest and saying that. Her

0:50:46.800 --> 0:50:49.920
<v Speaker 3>biggest thing with me in that conversation about that topic

0:50:50.840 --> 0:50:53.759
<v Speaker 3>was she wanted to protect Taraji. She didn't want to

0:50:53.800 --> 0:50:56.800
<v Speaker 3>talk too much about it because she felt like seeing

0:50:56.800 --> 0:50:59.000
<v Speaker 3>Taraji break down the way she did, and then everything

0:50:59.000 --> 0:51:01.320
<v Speaker 3>that came after that team clip and how the world

0:51:01.400 --> 0:51:03.680
<v Speaker 3>pinned them to against each other, she felt like she

0:51:03.800 --> 0:51:07.279
<v Speaker 3>was like it piled onto whatever I just obviously going through,

0:51:07.440 --> 0:51:09.239
<v Speaker 3>And she said to me, She's been through enough, I

0:51:09.280 --> 0:51:12.120
<v Speaker 3>don't want to pile on. Our experiences are different. So

0:51:12.600 --> 0:51:14.480
<v Speaker 3>it was kind of disheartening for people to not get

0:51:14.520 --> 0:51:17.080
<v Speaker 3>that through the interview. But I also feel like, to

0:51:17.120 --> 0:51:20.480
<v Speaker 3>people's defense, I don't think she really gave it all

0:51:20.520 --> 0:51:22.839
<v Speaker 3>of the color. I just gave y'all, and I wish

0:51:22.880 --> 0:51:24.680
<v Speaker 3>she would have, but that was her choice not to.

0:51:25.160 --> 0:51:26.680
<v Speaker 3>But I don't look at her that way, like I

0:51:26.680 --> 0:51:30.239
<v Speaker 3>don't nothing about baby vis Biblica a fox, and nothing

0:51:30.239 --> 0:51:32.040
<v Speaker 3>about her. I don't know.

0:51:32.040 --> 0:51:32.799
<v Speaker 2>Have y'all ever remember her?

0:51:34.800 --> 0:51:36.600
<v Speaker 3>She is queen. We talked back, y'all need to have

0:51:36.640 --> 0:51:39.200
<v Speaker 3>her on here. She's like you not getting around her

0:51:39.440 --> 0:51:43.480
<v Speaker 3>like I promise you, like she's very strongly not just

0:51:43.520 --> 0:51:46.319
<v Speaker 3>happy to be anywhere you're happy to have her like that,

0:51:46.360 --> 0:51:49.319
<v Speaker 3>and everything about her exudes that, you know, the way

0:51:49.320 --> 0:51:51.680
<v Speaker 3>we were brought up, where it's like baby I am woman,

0:51:51.920 --> 0:51:56.839
<v Speaker 3>Like who got that? You know what I mean? Yeah,

0:51:56.920 --> 0:51:59.120
<v Speaker 3>so I think so No, to answer your question, I

0:51:59.120 --> 0:52:01.440
<v Speaker 3>don't think that about her. I think that people are

0:52:01.480 --> 0:52:03.160
<v Speaker 3>picking it up that way. I also think people like

0:52:03.200 --> 0:52:04.640
<v Speaker 3>to just fuck with her as well too, because she

0:52:04.680 --> 0:52:07.520
<v Speaker 3>gives y'all, y'all can't sit with me, so people love

0:52:07.520 --> 0:52:09.640
<v Speaker 3>to remind her like now we're sitting next to you.

0:52:10.040 --> 0:52:12.600
<v Speaker 2>Right, And then she was It looked like she was

0:52:12.600 --> 0:52:15.200
<v Speaker 2>going through airport security or something when they were asking

0:52:15.200 --> 0:52:17.000
<v Speaker 2>these questions. It wasn't like she had a lot of

0:52:17.040 --> 0:52:19.840
<v Speaker 2>time to explain herself. I felt like it wasn't you

0:52:19.880 --> 0:52:21.200
<v Speaker 2>know she was she didn't.

0:52:21.239 --> 0:52:23.120
<v Speaker 3>I mean, those clips are quick, like you get a

0:52:23.120 --> 0:52:24.920
<v Speaker 3>TMZ clip, you getting a good two minutes to two

0:52:24.920 --> 0:52:26.760
<v Speaker 3>minutes to fifty depending on what you're saying. She signed

0:52:26.800 --> 0:52:29.440
<v Speaker 3>autographs coming out of the building. They clipped quick clips.

0:52:29.480 --> 0:52:32.040
<v Speaker 3>But I don't think that the world really gets to

0:52:32.160 --> 0:52:33.960
<v Speaker 3>feel what she's trying to say because she's not going

0:52:33.960 --> 0:52:36.040
<v Speaker 3>to depth about it, which for me is like that's

0:52:36.080 --> 0:52:38.440
<v Speaker 3>just gonna make it worse. I don't know. I hope

0:52:38.480 --> 0:52:39.839
<v Speaker 3>that my interview ain't make it even worse.

0:52:39.880 --> 0:52:44.600
<v Speaker 1>Though, No, I don't think it didn't. It didn't the

0:52:44.680 --> 0:52:48.759
<v Speaker 1>original TMZ at the airport, I really didn't. I didn't

0:52:48.760 --> 0:52:50.719
<v Speaker 1>really feel any type of way about what she said then,

0:52:51.680 --> 0:52:54.279
<v Speaker 1>But once I saw the interview with you, it gave

0:52:54.320 --> 0:52:57.560
<v Speaker 1>a little bit and more definition. But like you said,

0:52:57.600 --> 0:53:01.920
<v Speaker 1>not enough like your explanation of the behind the scenes conversation,

0:53:02.320 --> 0:53:04.440
<v Speaker 1>Like I definitely don't. I'm not calling her the op

0:53:04.560 --> 0:53:07.520
<v Speaker 1>at all. I don't see that Vivoca Fox that type

0:53:07.520 --> 0:53:09.680
<v Speaker 1>of woman. I definitely think she is for the people.

0:53:10.239 --> 0:53:13.040
<v Speaker 1>But she was definitely trying to keep it cute.

0:53:14.080 --> 0:53:17.680
<v Speaker 3>She was. I think her keeping cute her keeping cute

0:53:17.800 --> 0:53:20.640
<v Speaker 3>is like I think it could be a little detrimental

0:53:20.760 --> 0:53:22.480
<v Speaker 3>in my personal opinion, it could be a little detrimental

0:53:22.520 --> 0:53:24.600
<v Speaker 3>to her because for her to be such a legend

0:53:24.600 --> 0:53:27.319
<v Speaker 3>and an icon and to have when I say, like

0:53:27.480 --> 0:53:29.200
<v Speaker 3>I was only there for but so much time, but

0:53:29.440 --> 0:53:31.400
<v Speaker 3>I just felt like wow, like you know, she's a

0:53:31.440 --> 0:53:34.120
<v Speaker 3>big sister in TV you need for real, because she

0:53:34.160 --> 0:53:37.120
<v Speaker 3>would have been in ith On like a real high

0:53:37.320 --> 0:53:40.560
<v Speaker 3>level best of the best, count her coin, get her money,

0:53:40.560 --> 0:53:44.080
<v Speaker 3>and she's living peacefully right now. I think it does

0:53:44.120 --> 0:53:47.000
<v Speaker 3>a disservice to you know, like just our legacy as

0:53:47.000 --> 0:53:48.719
<v Speaker 3>Brown girls on our grind, And that's what I want

0:53:48.719 --> 0:53:50.719
<v Speaker 3>those conversations to be. That's why I'm so excited to

0:53:50.719 --> 0:53:52.719
<v Speaker 3>be able to sit down with her, because I don't

0:53:52.719 --> 0:53:54.480
<v Speaker 3>think if there's like a place right now that gives

0:53:54.560 --> 0:53:57.040
<v Speaker 3>us like that conversation of like naw, that's your big

0:53:57.080 --> 0:53:58.680
<v Speaker 3>sister for real, Like if gonna be honest, it might

0:53:58.760 --> 0:54:00.640
<v Speaker 3>hurt you a little bit. And when I was at

0:54:00.640 --> 0:54:02.920
<v Speaker 3>Breakfast Club, for some reason, I felt like I kept

0:54:02.920 --> 0:54:05.719
<v Speaker 3>getting phone into those type of conversations and I was

0:54:05.800 --> 0:54:07.759
<v Speaker 3>learning so much about myself in them, Like when we

0:54:07.760 --> 0:54:09.720
<v Speaker 3>did the Ebony k when we did that Carrie Champion,

0:54:09.760 --> 0:54:12.319
<v Speaker 3>when we did you know, like so many other conversations,

0:54:12.680 --> 0:54:13.960
<v Speaker 3>I was like, I like this space.

0:54:14.080 --> 0:54:15.200
<v Speaker 2>I feel like a lot of people.

0:54:15.000 --> 0:54:17.120
<v Speaker 3>Need to hear this like on a like for real,

0:54:17.160 --> 0:54:21.120
<v Speaker 3>for real. People need these like choke hold conversations for real.

0:54:25.719 --> 0:54:28.520
<v Speaker 2>So I have a question, right, Vivica was at one

0:54:28.560 --> 0:54:31.360
<v Speaker 2>point at the height of her career, honestly, she was

0:54:31.440 --> 0:54:34.480
<v Speaker 2>dating fifty cents and people said that like that affected

0:54:34.480 --> 0:54:36.480
<v Speaker 2>her brand in a negative way. And then we know

0:54:36.520 --> 0:54:39.200
<v Speaker 2>that Karsha was connected to a Diddy and she's go

0:54:39.560 --> 0:54:42.080
<v Speaker 2>kind of been quiet. Do you feel like the man

0:54:42.080 --> 0:54:45.160
<v Speaker 2>that you're connected to can diminish your brand if she

0:54:45.400 --> 0:54:48.480
<v Speaker 2>goes south? One hundred percent.

0:54:48.880 --> 0:54:52.560
<v Speaker 3>One hundred percent. Because as successful as Vivica Fox was

0:54:52.760 --> 0:54:55.560
<v Speaker 3>and as iconic and legendary as she is now, y'all,

0:54:55.560 --> 0:54:57.719
<v Speaker 3>remember when Cuban Lank fifty cents girlfriend came out and

0:54:57.719 --> 0:54:59.719
<v Speaker 3>tried to play play with her, little bit in the

0:54:59.760 --> 0:55:02.440
<v Speaker 3>world had to remind the world like, no, this is

0:55:02.480 --> 0:55:05.000
<v Speaker 3>vivaka foxtp Plane. She had a career for real, She's

0:55:05.040 --> 0:55:08.839
<v Speaker 3>not just somebody's girlfriend. That is a perfect example of yes,

0:55:08.920 --> 0:55:12.120
<v Speaker 3>that can happen because how would you ever even allow

0:55:12.239 --> 0:55:15.399
<v Speaker 3>vivaka Fox to be put in that conversation of oh,

0:55:15.440 --> 0:55:17.880
<v Speaker 3>you was just his past girlfriend. I'm here now. But

0:55:18.080 --> 0:55:21.080
<v Speaker 3>when you're a woman and you're attractive and you're doing

0:55:21.120 --> 0:55:23.279
<v Speaker 3>all these things, I don't know what it is, but

0:55:23.360 --> 0:55:25.839
<v Speaker 3>like when you attached to a man, it overshadows so much,

0:55:25.840 --> 0:55:27.920
<v Speaker 3>and it can lift you up and put you in

0:55:27.960 --> 0:55:31.439
<v Speaker 3>certain conversations and you know, Karsha Diddy at the met

0:55:31.480 --> 0:55:34.239
<v Speaker 3>Gala and all that fine stuff, but at the same

0:55:34.400 --> 0:55:38.760
<v Speaker 3>time disattaching the wrong way. Every time she speaks about fifty,

0:55:38.760 --> 0:55:40.840
<v Speaker 3>they're like, oh my god, here she goes again. She's miserable,

0:55:40.880 --> 0:55:42.759
<v Speaker 3>she wants him back, and it's like, no, she's.

0:55:42.640 --> 0:55:43.920
<v Speaker 2>Doing the same thing fifty dudes.

0:55:43.920 --> 0:55:47.040
<v Speaker 3>She knows that putting her show in the conversation with

0:55:47.120 --> 0:55:49.920
<v Speaker 3>his show, it's marketing. But she gets the bitter ex

0:55:49.960 --> 0:55:53.600
<v Speaker 3>girlfriend fifty gets. Marketing genis like one hundred percent, and

0:55:53.680 --> 0:55:55.600
<v Speaker 3>it makes it tough when you're trying to date because

0:55:55.600 --> 0:55:57.480
<v Speaker 3>people be like, I get told right now so much,

0:55:57.480 --> 0:56:00.480
<v Speaker 3>oh you need to have a celebrity relationship, and I'm like,

0:56:01.360 --> 0:56:06.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I like real niggas, that's number one, and

0:56:06.320 --> 0:56:08.880
<v Speaker 3>they'd be weird the celebrity people be weird, they'll be

0:56:08.960 --> 0:56:11.480
<v Speaker 3>like the real realm. But then also too, it's like,

0:56:11.520 --> 0:56:13.759
<v Speaker 3>even if I did like a celebrity enough to do it,

0:56:13.920 --> 0:56:17.719
<v Speaker 3>or you know, just whatever, I'm always nervous about how

0:56:17.719 --> 0:56:19.120
<v Speaker 3>that will affect me. I don't want to just be

0:56:19.320 --> 0:56:22.279
<v Speaker 3>someone's girlfriend. I hate that. And she talked about that too.

0:56:22.280 --> 0:56:24.440
<v Speaker 3>She didn't go into detail on the interview, but Vivoka

0:56:24.480 --> 0:56:27.120
<v Speaker 3>Fox was talking about how she had to literally take

0:56:27.120 --> 0:56:29.000
<v Speaker 3>a step away from Hollywood at the height of her

0:56:29.040 --> 0:56:33.560
<v Speaker 3>career and rebrand herself again and remind people I'm a

0:56:33.640 --> 0:56:36.120
<v Speaker 3>serious actress. She had to go to theater. She had

0:56:36.160 --> 0:56:38.000
<v Speaker 3>to go back to her roots of us, the black

0:56:38.040 --> 0:56:40.440
<v Speaker 3>people who had been supporting her forever, and go back

0:56:40.480 --> 0:56:43.040
<v Speaker 3>to theater and sell out shows and get agents and

0:56:43.080 --> 0:56:45.080
<v Speaker 3>different people to come to those shows, because all people

0:56:45.120 --> 0:56:47.000
<v Speaker 3>wanted to talk to her about what's her love life,

0:56:47.160 --> 0:56:49.440
<v Speaker 3>who she was fucking, who she was dealing with, and

0:56:49.480 --> 0:56:53.359
<v Speaker 3>because she had played the cute, sexy, powerful girlfriend and

0:56:53.680 --> 0:56:56.359
<v Speaker 3>you know, all that for so long that that's where

0:56:56.400 --> 0:56:58.040
<v Speaker 3>she lived and she didn't like it, and she knew

0:56:58.040 --> 0:56:59.560
<v Speaker 3>she could do way more, but she had to fight

0:56:59.680 --> 0:57:02.560
<v Speaker 3>all over again to remain name men don't go through No,

0:57:02.719 --> 0:57:04.520
<v Speaker 3>Michael B. Jordan ain't had to go back to theater.

0:57:04.600 --> 0:57:07.600
<v Speaker 1>Since why do y'all think that is?

0:57:07.640 --> 0:57:07.839
<v Speaker 2>Though?

0:57:07.880 --> 0:57:09.960
<v Speaker 1>Why do y'all think that happened to Vivica Fox in

0:57:10.000 --> 0:57:12.239
<v Speaker 1>that way? Because I mean we're talking about fifty cent.

0:57:12.320 --> 0:57:15.360
<v Speaker 1>We ain't talking about like some ranky, dank ass dude.

0:57:15.800 --> 0:57:18.480
<v Speaker 1>So why do y'all think that even happened to her?

0:57:18.600 --> 0:57:23.320
<v Speaker 1>Like why did her career like seemingly dwindled some after

0:57:23.360 --> 0:57:25.920
<v Speaker 1>her relationship with the with fifty Cent? I don't understand.

0:57:26.240 --> 0:57:28.320
<v Speaker 2>It was that moment when she was on stage when

0:57:28.400 --> 0:57:30.800
<v Speaker 2>it was an award show and fifty cent was performing

0:57:30.880 --> 0:57:32.919
<v Speaker 2>and Vivica was up there with them little short song

0:57:33.040 --> 0:57:35.520
<v Speaker 2>as a pretty much a background dancer for fifty cent.

0:57:35.840 --> 0:57:39.080
<v Speaker 2>I think that was when all the ship changed for her. Honestly.

0:57:40.240 --> 0:57:42.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, It's ben a lot of stuff about that relationship

0:57:42.560 --> 0:57:44.240
<v Speaker 3>that I didn't really I guess because I was like

0:57:44.360 --> 0:57:47.080
<v Speaker 3>yo too, But like it was something with like she

0:57:47.200 --> 0:57:49.960
<v Speaker 3>like when they when she wanted like to talk to him,

0:57:50.440 --> 0:57:51.760
<v Speaker 3>like I guess, so she was shooting her shots, she

0:57:51.800 --> 0:57:54.000
<v Speaker 3>like showing about his house or something like that too.

0:57:54.160 --> 0:57:56.280
<v Speaker 3>Like there was like a couple of different things.

0:57:56.320 --> 0:57:59.720
<v Speaker 1>So she has ten years older than him. Also, Yeah,

0:58:00.200 --> 0:58:00.840
<v Speaker 1>so I think.

0:58:00.760 --> 0:58:04.160
<v Speaker 3>Maybe it was maybe the approach. But in my opinion,

0:58:04.200 --> 0:58:07.040
<v Speaker 3>I feel like the world loves to put black women

0:58:07.120 --> 0:58:12.120
<v Speaker 3>in this space of like reminding us you, like, don't

0:58:12.160 --> 0:58:14.560
<v Speaker 3>forget Okay, it's so cute.

0:58:15.120 --> 0:58:17.960
<v Speaker 2>You're doing good, but not too much.

0:58:18.240 --> 0:58:21.800
<v Speaker 3>Not too much, Okay, remember you need us, We don't

0:58:21.800 --> 0:58:24.760
<v Speaker 3>need you. And with black men, even though black men

0:58:24.800 --> 0:58:26.360
<v Speaker 3>go through what they go through, I have this argument

0:58:26.360 --> 0:58:28.960
<v Speaker 3>all the time with black men about black men have

0:58:29.040 --> 0:58:32.840
<v Speaker 3>a certain It's like, even though the world precedes them

0:58:32.840 --> 0:58:34.720
<v Speaker 3>a certain way, and you know, they can be looked

0:58:34.760 --> 0:58:38.800
<v Speaker 3>at as aggressive, they them or whatever whatever, if you

0:58:38.840 --> 0:58:42.000
<v Speaker 3>are black men and with power and money and influence

0:58:42.040 --> 0:58:46.240
<v Speaker 3>and you look good, lend to you even Yeah, even

0:58:46.280 --> 0:58:48.680
<v Speaker 3>though they trying to like control you with puppet springs,

0:58:48.920 --> 0:58:50.880
<v Speaker 3>puppet strings, they lend to you a little bit different

0:58:50.880 --> 0:58:52.520
<v Speaker 3>than they do a black woman. As a black woman,

0:58:52.560 --> 0:58:55.800
<v Speaker 3>if you look good and you're powerful, they you can't

0:58:55.800 --> 0:58:57.720
<v Speaker 3>do one of the two. You can't actually be talented

0:58:57.840 --> 0:59:01.600
<v Speaker 3>men be fire and smart, look good, it's smart, and

0:59:01.640 --> 0:59:04.360
<v Speaker 3>be dating somebody popping. It's like, oh no, that's just

0:59:04.400 --> 0:59:07.640
<v Speaker 3>his girlfriend, right, Like that's just all it is.

0:59:08.520 --> 0:59:13.120
<v Speaker 1>I've seen some white people on ex call Megan Marco lazy.

0:59:13.760 --> 0:59:18.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what, like what constituted her being lazy because

0:59:18.560 --> 0:59:22.600
<v Speaker 1>she's am Loto mixed black woman, Like, what does she

0:59:22.720 --> 0:59:26.640
<v Speaker 1>do to be lazy? To y'all? She's the fucking she's

0:59:26.760 --> 0:59:28.920
<v Speaker 1>royalty at this point.

0:59:28.760 --> 0:59:29.880
<v Speaker 2>She's from where she's from.

0:59:29.960 --> 0:59:34.280
<v Speaker 3>That's why it's like she doesn't deserve. She just lays

0:59:34.280 --> 0:59:36.080
<v Speaker 3>on her back and be with that man and that's

0:59:36.120 --> 0:59:36.520
<v Speaker 3>her career.

0:59:36.560 --> 0:59:37.800
<v Speaker 2>And that's so what.

0:59:39.280 --> 0:59:43.360
<v Speaker 3>Like what she supposed to be because the Royal Housewives

0:59:43.400 --> 0:59:44.760
<v Speaker 3>of New York, no white woman.

0:59:44.720 --> 0:59:45.800
<v Speaker 2>Is living green.

0:59:47.040 --> 0:59:51.400
<v Speaker 1>And all a fraud. Okay, let's be clear anyway, So

0:59:51.600 --> 0:59:53.920
<v Speaker 1>in a world where like my truth is I talk

0:59:53.960 --> 0:59:56.000
<v Speaker 1>about this all the time, my truth. This is my truth,

0:59:56.080 --> 0:59:59.200
<v Speaker 1>like everybody's truth is the truth? Like, how important is

0:59:59.240 --> 1:00:01.960
<v Speaker 1>it to you as a journalist, because even with just

1:00:02.000 --> 1:00:05.320
<v Speaker 1>a podcast, like we are essentially journalists, how important is

1:00:05.360 --> 1:00:08.880
<v Speaker 1>it to you to make sure that you're being that

1:00:08.920 --> 1:00:10.840
<v Speaker 1>you're reporting the truth.

1:00:12.880 --> 1:00:16.200
<v Speaker 3>It's always it's like it's that or nothing for me

1:00:17.120 --> 1:00:19.200
<v Speaker 3>even now, So like with Brown Girl Grinding, we do

1:00:19.240 --> 1:00:23.040
<v Speaker 3>a lot of like content that like causes engagement in conversations,

1:00:23.160 --> 1:00:25.880
<v Speaker 3>and our biggest exclusives like that we're going to like

1:00:25.920 --> 1:00:27.680
<v Speaker 3>really hone in and focus in on this year are

1:00:27.720 --> 1:00:30.920
<v Speaker 3>the interviews because I just feel like it gives a

1:00:30.960 --> 1:00:34.440
<v Speaker 3>different voice to news than just me posting a tweet

1:00:34.520 --> 1:00:37.680
<v Speaker 3>or whatever. But if I'm following a story the way

1:00:37.720 --> 1:00:40.080
<v Speaker 3>that I've been brought up in this through my boot

1:00:40.080 --> 1:00:43.040
<v Speaker 3>camp at TMZ, oh it's factual, I'm not even touching it.

1:00:43.160 --> 1:00:45.120
<v Speaker 3>Like there are certain things that people will reach out

1:00:45.120 --> 1:00:46.480
<v Speaker 3>to me and be like, oh, why I talk about this,

1:00:46.520 --> 1:00:48.080
<v Speaker 3>Why you're not covering unless I'm about to do something

1:00:48.120 --> 1:00:51.040
<v Speaker 3>opinion based, And I think some stuff doesn't deserve an opinion.

1:00:51.120 --> 1:00:54.760
<v Speaker 3>Some stuff deserves facts, factual review. I'm not touching it

1:00:54.760 --> 1:00:57.760
<v Speaker 3>because as a journalist, like who's really doing this? That's

1:00:57.800 --> 1:00:59.880
<v Speaker 3>all I have is the fact that you'll be able

1:00:59.880 --> 1:01:02.240
<v Speaker 3>to back check what I said and it's true. But

1:01:02.280 --> 1:01:05.360
<v Speaker 3>also just like if you look at a TMZ in

1:01:05.360 --> 1:01:07.880
<v Speaker 3>the business model there they have built their brand and

1:01:07.920 --> 1:01:12.520
<v Speaker 3>you can't get around them because it's truthful, it's vetted,

1:01:13.040 --> 1:01:14.880
<v Speaker 3>and they're the first to tell you about it. So

1:01:14.960 --> 1:01:18.040
<v Speaker 3>now you go to them knowing you trust them. All

1:01:18.080 --> 1:01:21.520
<v Speaker 3>I have as a journalist like right now, I'm literally

1:01:21.520 --> 1:01:25.000
<v Speaker 3>working for myself, Like I am every single day getting

1:01:25.040 --> 1:01:28.240
<v Speaker 3>up and doing something for myself that is causing income, conversation,

1:01:28.480 --> 1:01:31.040
<v Speaker 3>brand building, whatever. One hundred percent. I don't work for

1:01:31.080 --> 1:01:33.760
<v Speaker 3>anyone but myself. Even when I work with other brands.

1:01:34.200 --> 1:01:35.240
<v Speaker 3>It's a new space for me.

1:01:35.800 --> 1:01:38.040
<v Speaker 2>But at the end of the day, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Want to be a person that people look at and

1:01:39.480 --> 1:01:41.479
<v Speaker 3>they trust and they're like, oh, she's talking about it, it

1:01:41.440 --> 1:01:44.080
<v Speaker 3>must gets something to pay attention to. If she's putting

1:01:44.160 --> 1:01:45.960
<v Speaker 3>facts out for the first time, we can trust what

1:01:45.960 --> 1:01:48.280
<v Speaker 3>she's saying. The minute that you do that and it's

1:01:48.320 --> 1:01:52.000
<v Speaker 3>not truthful, or you plan around with your platform from

1:01:52.000 --> 1:01:54.640
<v Speaker 3>the world that I'm trying to build in, people can't,

1:01:54.720 --> 1:01:56.280
<v Speaker 3>like we don't even know where to go now, Like

1:01:56.320 --> 1:01:57.520
<v Speaker 3>we don't know if it's vetted, we don't know if

1:01:57.560 --> 1:01:59.600
<v Speaker 3>it's real, and there's so much bullshit it fake stuff

1:01:59.600 --> 1:02:03.320
<v Speaker 3>on it too. And because I'm solely I'm just social

1:02:03.360 --> 1:02:05.280
<v Speaker 3>media based, Like I don't have a website, I don't

1:02:05.280 --> 1:02:07.680
<v Speaker 3>have a line on TV show yet, So all I

1:02:07.760 --> 1:02:10.240
<v Speaker 3>have is to be like that one person in the

1:02:10.280 --> 1:02:12.680
<v Speaker 3>world of all this noise that can bring you some

1:02:12.720 --> 1:02:16.040
<v Speaker 3>truth and some insight and some in depth conversations. That's

1:02:16.040 --> 1:02:17.840
<v Speaker 3>why I'm leaning with it. So it's one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 3>like it's truthful, factual, fact checking or nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>So all your feelings are out when you when you

1:02:24.240 --> 1:02:28.320
<v Speaker 1>reporting on the news, it's nothing personal. Ever, No, that's not.

1:02:28.280 --> 1:02:31.320
<v Speaker 3>Always true, because I'm human, So you would you want

1:02:31.360 --> 1:02:33.480
<v Speaker 3>it to be that way when you're reporting certain things.

1:02:33.840 --> 1:02:36.480
<v Speaker 3>But because you're human, you're you're human. Bias is always

1:02:36.480 --> 1:02:38.800
<v Speaker 3>going to come in to a certain extent. I do

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<v Speaker 3>try and be as neutral as I can, and I'm

1:02:41.640 --> 1:02:43.920
<v Speaker 3>learning to be better at that because I think a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of times when I do leave with emotion, depending

1:02:46.280 --> 1:02:48.800
<v Speaker 3>on what it is, it's because I feel like a

1:02:48.840 --> 1:02:50.480
<v Speaker 3>lot of times I'm speaking for people that like might

1:02:50.520 --> 1:02:52.320
<v Speaker 3>not ever get to seek that I'm in, Like you

1:02:52.400 --> 1:02:54.480
<v Speaker 3>might not get to talk to Ebony k or you

1:02:54.520 --> 1:02:56.120
<v Speaker 3>might not get to talk to a bit of a fox,

1:02:56.240 --> 1:02:59.080
<v Speaker 3>or you might not you know, get to if there's

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<v Speaker 3>like I I forget which school shooting it was. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>so sad that there are so many of them, but

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<v Speaker 3>probably like two months ago there was a school shooting

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<v Speaker 3>that happened and I was going back and for foot

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<v Speaker 3>LA enforcement sources, just you know, reporting things as they

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<v Speaker 3>were coming out. And I remember one of the public

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<v Speaker 3>information officers called me and was like, what platform are

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<v Speaker 3>you with and I was like my own brown girl

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<v Speaker 3>grinding and he was like, you should be working somewhere,

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<v Speaker 3>like you're so like on it. Like every single time

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<v Speaker 3>they released something, when I saw it somewhere else, if

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't report it first, I called and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to confirm this before I go with it,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and he was like, we really appreciate that

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<v Speaker 3>because these families are impacted by the news and the

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<v Speaker 3>media and people don't understand that. And that was like

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<v Speaker 3>such a like Okay, I got this, you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>I could do this for me on my own because

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<v Speaker 3>I removed myself from it and I was factual. But

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<v Speaker 3>at the same time, I don't know what it's like

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<v Speaker 3>to lose a kid to a school shooting, but and

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<v Speaker 3>being sensitive to that, I do want to put a

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<v Speaker 3>little emotion in it when I'm reported on it, But

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<v Speaker 3>you just got to know when the right time is.

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<v Speaker 3>So like the Chris Brown reacting or me reacting to

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<v Speaker 3>Chris Brown situation that you brought up earlier, that's all

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<v Speaker 3>me that's all opinion. That's my emotion, that's how I feel.

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<v Speaker 3>But if I'm talking about something that is like an actual,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, something that like the facts are there, I

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<v Speaker 3>can't get around it, and I'll make it. I might

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<v Speaker 3>still get my opinion, but you'll know when the switch happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the only don't she said, the only tailor we

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<v Speaker 1>recognizes tailor port. Bitch, I said, what.

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<v Speaker 2>What' telling?

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<v Speaker 3>Y'all?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, that's the only tailor.

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<v Speaker 2>Act Like we've been on this tailor and tailor report

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<v Speaker 2>and that's it. Like I was trying to stop.

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<v Speaker 1>Tail report is straight. They're trash.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know it though you have little Sippy said,

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<v Speaker 3>everybody has drinks.

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<v Speaker 2>Church. I won't mess with that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what y'all be getting at church during commune. That

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<v Speaker 1>damn teleport.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish to be a buzz.

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<v Speaker 3>But even that, though there was a lot of factual

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<v Speaker 3>stuff in the full video, like I took actual facts

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<v Speaker 3>and reports or whatever, but then you got you got,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I got a little.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what do you do you consider yourself a millennial?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you a millennial?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even I don't know. I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So when people will be sitting all that stuff. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know how the age brackens.

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<v Speaker 2>Were you born before ninety seven?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I was born in ninety one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh okay, so yeah, yeah, she's definitely who. So

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<v Speaker 1>what do you believe are some of the most pressing

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<v Speaker 1>issues facing millennials today and how do you approach covering

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<v Speaker 1>these issues in your reporting?

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<v Speaker 3>I think race, gender wars politics, but not just like

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<v Speaker 3>making people go out and vote. I think making people

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<v Speaker 3>actually understand what the fuck is going on, like on

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<v Speaker 3>a yeah, like what's going on and doing it in

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<v Speaker 3>a bite sized way as a person that like I

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<v Speaker 3>don't have a political background, but like I have to

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<v Speaker 3>go and vote, I have to know certain things just

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<v Speaker 3>to be a person civil person in the world. So

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<v Speaker 3>I think that that's like an issue too, that there's

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<v Speaker 3>like a big fall off between all these smart people

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<v Speaker 3>who know everything and can like get on CNN and

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<v Speaker 3>be analysts and like the everyday person who really needs

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<v Speaker 3>to go and vote for their prosecutor locally, like those things.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the world of like business and business like

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<v Speaker 3>creation and branding is also like an issue with us.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really have too many friends who work regular jobs.

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<v Speaker 3>All my friends are creatives or like own their own businesses.

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<v Speaker 3>Even my friends who do work regular jobs, their regular

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<v Speaker 3>jobs are requiring them to know what's going on in

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<v Speaker 3>the pulse of creativity, especially if they're black. If you're

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<v Speaker 3>black and you working for these big corporations, baby, they

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<v Speaker 3>want you to sing rap ac dance, do ex social

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<v Speaker 3>media numbers all of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, social media.

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<v Speaker 3>That so because you come in and you are the

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<v Speaker 3>culture in these rooms. So I think that that's also

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<v Speaker 3>a big thing as well too, is like us just

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<v Speaker 3>understanding navigating like financially like as a business owner where

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<v Speaker 3>that can put you being able to like partner with

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<v Speaker 3>these organizations. I guess that's called capitalism, like us understanding

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<v Speaker 3>how we can use that to better ourselves, because I

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<v Speaker 3>think our generation of people are so like, fuck the man,

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<v Speaker 3>we don't need that job, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>I build my own table, and yeah, I want all

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<v Speaker 3>of us to be building our own tables. But the

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<v Speaker 3>table gotta get bigger and it got to scale and

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<v Speaker 3>order for us to really do this shit for real,

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<v Speaker 3>for real, and we need a lot of us in

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<v Speaker 3>rooms that are like at the head of the LB

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<v Speaker 3>and LB MHS, you know. So I think that that's

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<v Speaker 3>also something big and podcast mics w meen. I think

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<v Speaker 3>that that's a big issue.

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<v Speaker 1>Fation like gas, like.

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<v Speaker 3>Toxic masculinity.

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<v Speaker 1>This is my last question. This is in reference to

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<v Speaker 1>like social media, and because I read an article that

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<v Speaker 1>said most millennials then you know, they get forty five

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<v Speaker 1>percent of their news from social media. So we have

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<v Speaker 1>platforms like X for example, which you know there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of independent journalists on X rather than should be

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<v Speaker 1>true or not, it's that for you to have discernment

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<v Speaker 1>and decipher. So how do you see the role of

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<v Speaker 1>social media shaping modern journalism practices.

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<v Speaker 3>I've talked about this at a panel ardy during Grammy Weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that it's gonna make it where, you know

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<v Speaker 3>how like the I always think with myself as like

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<v Speaker 3>a rap artist, we too have no mix. But just

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<v Speaker 3>like in terms of career, the way that you have

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<v Speaker 3>to position yourself when you are talented, the way that

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<v Speaker 3>social media is already changing news media and how people

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<v Speaker 3>receive it is the same way when people started stepping

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<v Speaker 3>away from labels and saying I want to be independent,

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to distribution deal. It's literally going to

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<v Speaker 3>be that eventually. But the issue is that you have

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<v Speaker 3>all these people who are on social and they can

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<v Speaker 3>sweep whatever they want, do whatever they want, and present

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<v Speaker 3>things as facts and it not be facts right, or

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<v Speaker 3>it be an augmented fact like through AI or through

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<v Speaker 3>personal opinion, emotion whatever. And a lot of times these

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<v Speaker 3>people are not bettert journalists that they don't have the

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<v Speaker 3>background people understand how to check a source, how to

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, there's a lot that goes into this

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<v Speaker 3>nuance of reporting news and being a news personality and

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<v Speaker 3>just a person that drives conversation around culture in general.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think what we're going to see is is

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<v Speaker 3>that eventually the CNNs and all that stuff, it's happening already,

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<v Speaker 3>they're going to be trying to keep up with the

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<v Speaker 3>people that become the faces and the names on the

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<v Speaker 3>tiktoks and the twitters and the Instagrams and the you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like in that space. Don Lemon, who got fired from

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<v Speaker 3>CEE and the announced it he's doing the show, but he's.

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<v Speaker 1>Doing it on X Tucker Cross.

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<v Speaker 3>Tucker Cross and so many people have just like they

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<v Speaker 3>xed out the middleman and they get the distribution through

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<v Speaker 3>platforms and sponsors and advertising to make it bigger and

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<v Speaker 3>to scale larger. So I think that is going to

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<v Speaker 3>become the new normal, and the people that are early

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<v Speaker 3>on it are going to become the breakout voices. That

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<v Speaker 3>was a big part of me leaving my job, just

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<v Speaker 3>seeing that that was a thing and knowing that I

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<v Speaker 3>could do it. It's not easy. It is very tough

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<v Speaker 3>because it takes a lot of consistency. It takes a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of finance as well, so you've got to have

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<v Speaker 3>a good partner, the backing. Still, I'm looking for all that,

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<v Speaker 3>and y'all out there and y'll like, y'all fuck with her.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to, you know, throw some dollars in my

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<v Speaker 3>way to help this scale up. I'm gonna grinding scale up.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think that eventually, like it's going to be

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<v Speaker 3>a rise of like creators and content creators who are

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<v Speaker 3>telling news and like putting stuff into the world. And

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<v Speaker 3>it won'ted to be traditional, like they won't just sit

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<v Speaker 3>and report it. It's going to be so many different ways,

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<v Speaker 3>and those platforms will be to go to over like

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<v Speaker 3>a TMZ or a CNN or whatever, and the best

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<v Speaker 3>platforms will see that it's like to change and pivot.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I even noticed at TMZ since I left, things

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<v Speaker 3>that they're doing differently, Like even though what they're going,

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<v Speaker 3>like I knew leaving what I needed to do in

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<v Speaker 3>order to be still keeping myself right next to them,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I'm not as big of a platform, but they

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<v Speaker 3>don't have my voice. They don't have There's a lot

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<v Speaker 3>that I knew I left with, so I use what

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<v Speaker 3>I knew that they weren't doing to structure what I

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to do so I could still kind of, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>be right there at it. But I'm like, oh, they

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<v Speaker 3>waking up a little bit, Like they hit in social

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<v Speaker 3>media as soon as the stories are publishing and like

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<v Speaker 3>all that stuff. They weren't social media first, they were

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<v Speaker 3>website first. But the website is still there. So a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of platforms are going to come around. But that's

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<v Speaker 3>what it's going to be. Like your lead news person

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<v Speaker 3>is going to be such and such an X and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like what academics is doing, but like a

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<v Speaker 3>more vetted version of it that you can really trust

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<v Speaker 3>and not just him screaming at his phone.

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<v Speaker 1>At like tide out in his fucking basement somewhere.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I got one more question for you, Lauren, What advice

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<v Speaker 2>would you give I don't want a young person trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get into journalism and they're just starting out and

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<v Speaker 2>they're afraid and they don't know what to do. What

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<v Speaker 2>advice would you give them?

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<v Speaker 3>I always tell people to start where you are, So

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<v Speaker 3>don't wait until you got the job, you moved out

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<v Speaker 3>of the state to the state that you want to

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<v Speaker 3>move to or whatever. Start where you are. Interview your friends,

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<v Speaker 3>Interview to people that are doing something around you. Get

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<v Speaker 3>good at, like knowing how to produce. If you're starting

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<v Speaker 3>where you are and you're putting out content, you're developing

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<v Speaker 3>ideas and angles and all that, you're learning how to produce,

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<v Speaker 3>and that there's no way you can live and breathe

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<v Speaker 3>in this space and not be a producer. Also, that's

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<v Speaker 3>number one. Number two is to like really just understand

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<v Speaker 3>what is the story that you want to tell That

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<v Speaker 3>won't come instantly. I'm just now realizing with this last

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<v Speaker 3>year where I think my voice is strongest and lending

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<v Speaker 3>myself to that and building a brand around it, it

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<v Speaker 3>will take time. So don't be afraid to try things

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<v Speaker 3>and be afraid to get on different platforms if it's

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<v Speaker 3>not the job you want. Like people will be like

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<v Speaker 3>should I start in local news? It's so boring, it's

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<v Speaker 3>not the shade room. Hell yeah, it's a job. It's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna put you on camera. It's gonna teach you things.

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<v Speaker 3>There's so many different tools that you need, like you

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<v Speaker 3>need to there's so many different things you just need

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<v Speaker 3>to know how to do on and off camera that

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<v Speaker 3>you don't learn it until you do as much experience. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>like when I'm a personality and I'm navigating new spaces,

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<v Speaker 3>like breakfast club was new new for me, like I

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<v Speaker 3>had never been on a platform for that long of

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<v Speaker 3>a time where like I'm a full blown personality, and

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<v Speaker 3>the first day I was there, I remember thinking like, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>today was cool. But as a producer, what were the

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<v Speaker 3>things that I didn't do well that would have made

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<v Speaker 3>the producer's job easier when it comes to making the

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<v Speaker 3>show good? Like what did I realized? I realized, like, Yo,

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<v Speaker 3>they're really good as hell what they do in real life.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think people give it to Charlomagne Amy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, they're good it well.

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<v Speaker 3>Bro like they just be like like off the top,

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<v Speaker 3>like so like you know, I was like, okay, comebacks,

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<v Speaker 3>I thought my comebacks were cool for the TMZ room.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's that's a bunch of people who are like

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's different when you with the culture so

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, just but having that that producer had

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<v Speaker 3>and having had it for so long at TMZ and

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<v Speaker 3>understanding what makes people go. I started looking at myself like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>what can I really lean into here to make this shit?

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<v Speaker 3>I gotta run it up while on here because I

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<v Speaker 3>might not be here forever. I gotta run right. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's important that to get all that, So don't turn

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<v Speaker 3>out anything. Learn as much as you can. Start where

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<v Speaker 3>you are. Put the stuff out. If you're telling me

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<v Speaker 3>that you are a TV personality and I can't find

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<v Speaker 3>you on social doing anything TV personality wise in twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty four, you're not a TV personality If you're a

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<v Speaker 3>producer and you can't send me a real or there's

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<v Speaker 3>nothing out there that I can see, you're not a producer.

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<v Speaker 3>But the minute that you start putting stuff out there,

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<v Speaker 3>you are, regardless of people believe it or not. So

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<v Speaker 3>just get started.

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<v Speaker 2>Start start where you are. Well, thank you Lauren for

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<v Speaker 2>joining us. Man. This was such an excellent interview. You're

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<v Speaker 2>such a great gift we definitely want to have you back.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Now, I don't call me whenever y'all need me.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm talking back all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Just call me plug your period.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, make sure y'all go and follow me in the brand.

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<v Speaker 3>So I am Lorne la Rosa everywhere, l O r

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<v Speaker 3>e n l O r O s a everywhere. That's YouTube, Instagram, Twitter, everything,

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<v Speaker 3>so on YouTube, we are documented behind the scenes. We're

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<v Speaker 3>blogging the experience. But we also now have the Brown

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<v Speaker 3>gar Grinding Interview series, which we kicked off this month

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<v Speaker 3>or yeah, it was this month. We kicked off this

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<v Speaker 3>month with Vivaca a Fox and we have some really

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<v Speaker 3>really great brown girls on their grinding entertainment, like some

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<v Speaker 3>really good names that you guys are gonna enjoy coming there.

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<v Speaker 3>But Warna Rosa everywhere and then the brand is Brown

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<v Speaker 3>Girl Grinding b R O w N Girl common spelling,

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<v Speaker 3>grinding grinding common spelling as well. To follow us. I

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<v Speaker 3>tell people that Brown Girl Grinding is like the group chat,

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<v Speaker 3>Like we have conversations over there, we argue, we get

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<v Speaker 3>lit together, we have a good time, but it's it's home,

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<v Speaker 3>it's family, and we're building it out a space where

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<v Speaker 3>you can get news, exclusives, talk back segments, all of

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<v Speaker 3>that just a good, good old time and we do

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<v Speaker 3>it like real cute, like for the ladies in a

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<v Speaker 3>place with styling.

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<v Speaker 2>Great.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sounds like it. Follow Thank you all.

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<v Speaker 3>For landing the platform to me. I appreciate you for

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<v Speaker 3>having me.

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<v Speaker 1>We appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thos were coming off.

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<v Speaker 1>Millennials are creating contemporary Black history in real time, which

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<v Speaker 1>involves actively engaging in actions, movements, initiatives that contribute to

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<v Speaker 1>the advancement, recognition, and celebration of black culture. So building

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<v Speaker 1>connections within the Black community and beyond is crucial for

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<v Speaker 1>amplifying voices, sharing experiences, and fostering solidarity. Our partners at

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<v Speaker 1>Ate and T Dream and Black are fully aware that

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<v Speaker 1>Black history isn't static, It's happening right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Our guest today, Lauren Lerossa, she definitely touched on that

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<v Speaker 2>how black millennials are becoming entrepreneurs and launching businesses and

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<v Speaker 2>creating innovation solutions. She definitely was talking about how our parents,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, our parents would work for twenty years at

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<v Speaker 2>one job and stay with that job. And now millennials

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<v Speaker 2>we are challenging traditional business models. And she also talked

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<v Speaker 2>about collaborations with bigger brands and how to scale your business.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was definitely dope. Some Black millennials that I

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<v Speaker 2>can think of that are definitely pushing the culture forward

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<v Speaker 2>right now. Pinky Coal, she has Slod Vegan. That's huge. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>a vegan plant blazed Burger restaurant, you know. And she's

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<v Speaker 2>it's started in Atlanta and now it's a change. She's

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<v Speaker 2>moving all over the country and she was like Time

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<v Speaker 2>nominated for Times Top one hundred people. Then you have

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<v Speaker 2>Everett Taylor. He's the CEO of Kickstarter, which is a

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<v Speaker 2>crowdfunding app that has collected millions and millions of dollars

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<v Speaker 2>for entrepreneurs who are trying to get their creative ideas

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<v Speaker 2>off the ground. So that's huge.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. Chela mean a god with the Black Effect Podcast

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<v Speaker 1>Network our network.

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<v Speaker 2>Period, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>He has brought together some of the biggest voices in

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<v Speaker 1>black media to spread truth. Okay, we talked about truth

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<v Speaker 1>a lot on this with this episode, so Black millennials

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<v Speaker 1>are able to share their stories and perspectives on multiple

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<v Speaker 1>podcasts across the network. Charlamagne is the founder and creator

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<v Speaker 1>of this network, The Black Effect Podcast Network, which stands

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<v Speaker 1>as the first podcast network tailored specifically for Black listeners. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we ain't trying to exclude nobody, but yes for us,

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<v Speaker 1>by us bring it together, diverse and trusted voices within

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<v Speaker 1>the culture, and fostering a platform for representation and connection

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<v Speaker 1>where Black millennials can share their stories.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said, all right, so before we go, let's

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<v Speaker 2>discuss how me and you and we talk back, how

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<v Speaker 2>we can continue to support black creators and amplify our voices.

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<v Speaker 1>Were gonna keep talking, We're gonna keep talking back.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we got to keep bringing on good guests

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<v Speaker 2>from all different walks of life. You know, different entrepreneurs,

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<v Speaker 2>women who are like we just did the segment with

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<v Speaker 2>women who are happy married, different people in STEM. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know about STEM, so you know things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's an adult way that we can definitely

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<v Speaker 2>amplify our voices and push the culture for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. All right, So y'all to learn more about AT

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<v Speaker 1>belief that connecting changes everything. Now, y'all listen. If you

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