1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you missed in History Class from how 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: Stuff Works dot com. Hello, and welcome to the podcast. 3 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 1: I'm Katie Lambert and I'm Fara Down And today's podcast 4 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: brings together too unlikely bed fellows Josephine Baker and Harry Houdini. 5 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: And that's because we're going to give you a brief 6 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: history of vaudeville, which flourished from the eighteen nineties to 7 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: the nineteen thirties. And it all started with variety shows 8 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: in the eighteen fifties and sixties. These were geared toward 9 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: men and well, you know, let's think of today's buddy comedies. 10 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: They're not generally known for being particularly high brow. You 11 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: might describe them as vulgar or obscene. But we also 12 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: have genres like burlesque and circuses, dine museums, medicine shows, 13 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: and wild West shows, and all of these kind of 14 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: come together along with European musical tradition, minstrel shows, and 15 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: Yiddish theater. Vaudeville takes all of it, except of course 16 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: for the burlesque, mixes it up, makes it family friendly 17 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: and puts it on stage so the wife and kids 18 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: could come. Now, along with the guy opening up all 19 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: sorts of profits for the men who ran the business. 20 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: And there's a fantastic notice to performers described by Edwin Royal, 21 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: who was a vaudevillian. I keep trying really hard not 22 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: to say vaudevillain. I'll keep trying in Scribner's in and 23 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: here it is. You are hereby warrned that your act 24 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: must be free from all vulgarity and suggestiveness in words, action, 25 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 1: and costume while playing in any of Mr Blank's houses, 26 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: and all vulgar, double meaning and profane words and songs 27 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: must be cut out of your act before the first performance. 28 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: If you are in doubt as to what is right 29 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: or wrong, submitted to the resident manager at rehearsal such 30 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: words as liars, slob, son of a gun, devil, sucker, damn, 31 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: and all other words unfit for the ears of ladies 32 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: and children. Also, any reference to questionable streets, resorts, localities, 33 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: and bar rooms are prohibited under fine of instant discharge. 34 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 1: Well son of a gun, Katy, let's get going, sir, 35 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: that that's inappropriate. So the man who many consider the 36 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: father of vaudeville, Tony Pastor, staged the first popular show 37 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: of this kind in one in New York, and there's 38 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: no liquor, of course, and he might even give you 39 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: a ham if you come for the show, or some coal, 40 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: so immediately family friendly. Yeah, I would be more inclined 41 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: to go to a show of someone giving me a ham. 42 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: There's an awesome website that's designed by Rick Easton of 43 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: uv A, which you can easily find if you type 44 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: vaudeville into Google. He's one of the first results. Um 45 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: and he says that the guy we should be talking 46 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: about as the father of vaudeville is Benjamin Franklin Keith, 47 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: who started off his career with a museum featuring Baby 48 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: Alice the Midget Wonder, but ended up being the man 49 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: who really understood his American audience. You know, they wanted 50 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: high and low. Yeah, they like this crazy circus stuff, 51 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: but they also want real respected actors, somebody who they 52 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: could maybe tell their friends, Oh, I'm going to see 53 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: you know Mrs so and so the respected actor, and 54 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: they get to see some strong men's stuff on the side, 55 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: So like Snooky and Meryl Streep on the same stage. 56 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: As I explained it to Sarah earlier, this brought in 57 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: the respectable crowd, which one over Boston's Catholic Church, which 58 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: was very much in control of the city, so don't 59 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: underestimate their power. And they supported him because they wanted 60 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: more of this clean entertainment rather than people going to saloon, 61 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: family friendly stuff. Get the guys taking their wife and 62 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: kids out to a vaudeville show instead of hanging out 63 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: at the bar. So what is a vaudeville show. It's 64 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: a dozen or so acts, none as longer than thirty minutes. 65 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: And we've got all kinds of performers, magicians, strong men, acrobats, comedians, dancers, singers, jugglers, 66 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: trained animals. And you know how much we love airs, monologuists, impressionists, 67 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: actors performing one acts, contortionists. Honestly, it sounds really fantastic. 68 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: I'd like to go to one. But what is it 69 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: like if you're if you're one of these people, if 70 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: you're a strong man or a contortionist or a dancer, 71 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: and it's it's a hard life. You're basically singing for 72 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 1: your supper. It was hard to break into show business 73 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: then as it is now, and you show up for 74 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: an open call, you do your best to try to 75 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: stand out um auditioning for this impassive judge, and then 76 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: you either make it or you don't, and it's a 77 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: lot more likely that you don't make it. And maybe, 78 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: if you're lucky, you have some sort of gimmick that 79 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 1: makes you stand out, say seven chap dancing kids, and 80 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: then you get your chance on stage, and if the 81 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: audience likes you, you're in. They might book you again, 82 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: and if they don't, you're starting again. The cane off 83 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: or whistle from the wings and the experience as an actor. 84 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: According to Mr Royal, you're saying it might be a 85 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: little embarrassing for a respected actor to get on stage 86 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: with circus freak, but uh, the money might win you over. 87 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: You could sell your integrity for a little bit of up. 88 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: It was also steady work. It was nice to be 89 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: part of a company who arranged all your touring schedules 90 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: for you and your care the logistic, Yeah, it took 91 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: care of the business of traveling around the country performing 92 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: at all these different theaters. You were essentially looked after, 93 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: and you had a steady salary on the way, or 94 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: at least a fairly steady salary. And we're also talking 95 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: earlier about advertising, because of course you couldn't list twenty 96 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: people on the bill who were performing, no one would 97 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 1: even look at it. So you've got to pick a star, 98 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: someone with name recognition, someone who's gimmicky and cool enough 99 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: for people to want to come in um, someone like 100 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: the gorgeous Lilian Russell perhaps, and that made that person 101 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: the headliner on the posters, and fame followed if you 102 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: were lucky and a darn goood salary. But many stars 103 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 1: who we think of from later genres actually started off 104 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: as fond billions. Fred A Stare, for example, starts at 105 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: age seven, and it wasn't unusual for people to start 106 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 1: that young, and it was very common for families to 107 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 1: be on stage together. Whatever I think of performing families, 108 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: the first to come to mind is always the Flying 109 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 1: Wallenda's I think just because I like their name, stand 110 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: out name. But there were a lot more than that. 111 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: The Seven Little Boys were these seven top dancing kids 112 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: of Eddie Foy Senior. Apparently I think my family missed 113 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: out on a big opportunity because there's are six of 114 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 1: us and none of us. Not too late, Katie sign 115 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: them all up for topping maybe sometime soon. Some better 116 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: known stars were the Three Stooges. Well, I guess only 117 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: two of them were brothers, but we're going to count 118 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: them and the Marx Brothers even if Gummo and Zeppo 119 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: didn't really work out, and the comedians like the three 120 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: stooges of the Marx Brothers are really big hits. Even 121 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: though it's with all these rules, you know, no um, 122 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: no slob, no damn non a gun um, it seems 123 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: like it would probably be really really hard for them 124 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 1: to make clean jokes. We can't have a Richard Prior 125 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: on stand and I don't think the aristocrats really would 126 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: have played there. And Royal had a good quote about 127 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 1: that too. He said, from the artist who balances a 128 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: set of parlor furniture on his nose to the academic baboon, 129 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: there was one concentrated, strenuous struggle for a laugh. No 130 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: artist can afford to do without it. It hangs like 131 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: a solemn and awful obligation over everything. So consequently, because 132 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: we can't have sexual jokes, we end up with a 133 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: lot of race based jokes and including the use of 134 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: black face like we mentioned, and many acts are done 135 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:36,239 Speaker 1: by two comedians who sort of play up comedic stereotypes. 136 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: The Jewish boy, the fat boy. You know, they assume 137 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: a role and run with it and insult to one another, 138 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: and just as many comedians then stole each other's jokes 139 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: as they do now. It was fairly notorious pitfall in 140 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: the business. But there were a lot of other people 141 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: who got their start in vaudeville UM, including the father 142 00:07:56,320 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: of modern bodybuilding, strongman Eugene Sandow, caustic comedian W. C. Fields, 143 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: the adored cowboy comedian which the title I enjoy, Will 144 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: Rogers Um, Lillian Russell, like we mentioned our entertainment star 145 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: Al Jolson, singer Bessie Smith, and Houdini. Of course, of 146 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: course he's already talked about. Even though vaudeville was not UM. 147 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: It was not the right Milia, No, it wasn't. It 148 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: didn't highlight his type of skills. He was up there 149 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: doing card tricks and and that's not what pain. That 150 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: was before he understood showmanship. We've also got one of 151 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: my personal favorites, Sophie Tucker, who was known as the 152 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: last of the Red Hot Mama's and she started singing 153 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: at the kosh Er Diner her family owned. She was 154 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: actually forced to perform in black face when she started 155 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 1: on Vaudeville. The oft repeated story is that her producer 156 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 1: thought she was too fat and too ugly to be 157 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 1: on stage without it, and when she lost her makeup 158 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: at a gig, she appeared on stage without it, told 159 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: the audience that before then she had been forced to 160 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: perform in it, and people loved her. Yeah, we've also 161 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: got The gold Bergs, which is notable because it becomes 162 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 1: not only a huge radio success after Vaudeville meets its end, 163 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: but the first major American sitcom and the one that 164 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: sort of defines the sitcom genre. I also really love 165 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: Eva Tanguay. I might be saying her name completely wrong, 166 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: and there's a fantastic article about her by Jody Rosen 167 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: on Slate called Vanishing Act in search of Eva Tanguay, 168 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: the First rock Star, which you should definitely read. But 169 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: the list of famous vaudevilliams is way too big to 170 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: tackle in one podcast, So I think we're going to 171 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: do follow up about some of our favorites, and we'd 172 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: also like to know about some of your favorite old 173 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 1: movie stars for a future podcasts, So write to us 174 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: at History podcast at how stuff Works dot com and 175 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: see if they make the cut. So We've talked about 176 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: the performers a lot now about vaudeville, but talking about 177 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: the business, it's a really, really big business. I mean, 178 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: this is before this, before Hollywood, this is four TV. 179 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: We have more than twenty five thousand performers in theaters 180 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:10,119 Speaker 1: in every community. This is the big entertainment for the country. 181 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: And most vaudeville theaters were part of a circuit, which 182 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 1: meant that one guy controlled a whole chain of theaters. 183 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: The big ones where the United Booking Office and the 184 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: Orpheum circuit. The United Booking Office had four hundred theaters, 185 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,839 Speaker 1: just to give you an idea of the scale of this, 186 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: and this is why the companies are able to travel. 187 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: And this is the benefit that comes from being in 188 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,839 Speaker 1: a vaudeville troupe, that you go to the four hundred 189 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: theaters and everything's already worked out for you. Some of 190 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: these theaters opened at breakfast and stayed open until quite 191 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: late at night. Um that way they could give a 192 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: few performances in one day, four or five. And if 193 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: you owned a circuit, you could get tens of thousands 194 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: of people in and out if you could sell out 195 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: the house, and the biggest house of them all was 196 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: the Palace Theater in New York City, and it was 197 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: a huge deal to headline here. I mean you could 198 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: compare it to maybe Math and Square Garden. Today we're 199 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: bigger than that, I'm not sure. And the big men 200 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: of the business where the afore mentioned Mr Keith and 201 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: his partner Edward F. Albi, yes, the father of the playwright, 202 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: and their partnership in eight five pretty much gave them 203 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: a monopoly. Albie got his start in the circus and 204 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 1: became basically a Vaudeville dictator. And Martin Beck was another 205 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: biggie here. We've brought him up before in our Houdini podcast. 206 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: But he builds the Palace and he heads the Orophum 207 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: circuit Um and another one you've probably heard of, the 208 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: William Morris Agency. Mr Morris himself wages this battle against 209 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: Albion Keith to break up their monopoly. But Vaudeville, of course, 210 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 1: didn't last. And while the video may have killed the 211 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: radio star, the radio and the talkies killed Vaudeville. So 212 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: vaudeville shows had begun screening little bits of movies, but 213 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: before long the actual vaudeville acts were sidelined in favor 214 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: of the film. So it was the movie that was 215 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: starring with some vaudeville acts on the side. And soon 216 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: people abandon vaudeville altogether for radio and movies. The Great 217 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: Depression didn't help um and the New York Palace shut 218 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: down in ninety four. That was the last big house 219 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 1: that was left. They didn't know what they were doing. 220 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 1: If they saw TV today, they might have changed their minds. 221 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: But a lot of really huge film stars got their 222 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: start in vaudeville. It was sort of a place to 223 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: get some experience, make your presence know and maybe make 224 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: a name. And well, when it was so cutthroat, if 225 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: you were going to make it on vaudeville, you'd be 226 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: able to make it make it in Hollywood. So we'll 227 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: end with another note from vaudeville management. Gentlemen will kindly 228 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: avoid the stamping of feet and pounding of canes on 229 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: the floor, and greatly oblige the management. All applause is 230 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: best shown by clapping of hands. Please don't talk during acts, 231 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: as that annoys those about you and prevents a perfect 232 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: hearing of the entertainment. So I think Verizon would be 233 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: sponsoring this today or something we'd like to amend it 234 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: so you can't take out your iPhone or BlackBerry and 235 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: check your emails and texts. Uh. Consider that a public 236 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: service announcement from the girls of stuff you missed in 237 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: history class. And that brings us to today's listener mail. 238 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: So this email is from jose who is writing us 239 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: about our Nelly Bligh podcast and her stunt in the 240 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: Insane Asylum. He writes, the building is now called the Octagon. 241 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: This building was renovated not too long ago, and many 242 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: of the residents say that they sometimes feel people following 243 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: them where they can hear footsteps and things of that nature. 244 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: And he goes on after this to write that I 245 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: was walking to the lobby one day late at night 246 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: and I felt a rush of wind on my face. Creepy. 247 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: But as a side note, he writes that the building 248 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: is totally green now is the first lead certified residential 249 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 1: building in New York City, and it has the largest 250 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: array of solar panels in New York City. So what 251 00:13:55,520 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 1: an about face for this this disturbing building? And if 252 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: you have something cool you'd like to tell us, you 253 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: can email us at History Podcast at how stuff works 254 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: dot com. 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