1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center. 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arm Strong and Getty and 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 2: he Armstrong and Getty. 5 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 3: Tesla announcing its profits have plunged a staggering seventy one 6 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 3: percent in the first quarter of this year since CEO 7 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 3: Elon Musk took a major role in the Trump administration. 8 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 3: Musk telling Tesla investors he will soon be spending a 9 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 3: lot more of his time focused on his business. 10 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 4: The tribalism in so much of America, from car choices 11 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 4: to the way the legal system behaves, really troubling. Equal 12 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 4: treatment under the law seems to be gone, at least 13 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 4: for certain people, many of them on the left. That's 14 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 4: the topic I'd like to pursue with our guest in 15 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 4: One of those subtopics is at least somewhat Tesla related, 16 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 4: but Larry Goodman joins us. Larry's a retired judge for 17 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 4: the Superior Court in Elama, California, and also happily Katie's dad. 18 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 5: Hello, Judge Larry, how are you, sir? 19 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 2: I'm doing well. 20 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 5: How are you good? Good? 21 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 4: I assume you're happily Katie's dad maybe I made a 22 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 4: leap there that was inappropriate. 23 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 2: No, it's been a total blessing. It's couldn't do better. 24 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 5: At good answer, good answer. So he's on the record 25 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 5: is loving his daughter. You'll see. I'd like to get 26 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 5: a second witness anyway. Always great to talk. 27 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 4: And there are a couple of excuses we had to 28 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 4: call you up today, and one of them is this 29 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 4: Democratic activist in Minnesota who committed over twenty one thousand 30 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 4: dollars in damage to Tesla's across Minneapolis. This guy happens 31 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 4: to be a state employees a fist policy analyst for 32 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 4: the state of Minnesota, long history of anti Trump, pro 33 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 4: Democratic posts on his social media. He was arrested and 34 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 4: quickly released, and the prosecutor said, now we're going to 35 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,679 Speaker 4: put him in a diversion program and we will not 36 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 4: charge him with any crimes. 37 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 5: What's your reaction of that. 38 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 2: Well, the prosecutor said, that way he'll make restitution, which 39 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 2: we know he'll never make. But it's what they do. 40 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: I mean, there's no it's a two tiered system of justice. 41 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 2: If you're on our side, you get prosecuted, and if 42 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 2: you're on their side, you don't. Depending on who the 43 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 2: DA is, although I think more and more people are 44 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:43,399 Speaker 2: getting set up with that kind of lack of prosecution. 45 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 2: We just saw that in now Lameda County where they 46 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 2: recalled the DA saw it in Los Angeles where they 47 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 2: got rid of gascon. So maybe the tide is changing 48 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: a little bit. 49 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 5: Yeah. 50 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 4: Hennepin County, which is where Minneapolis is, has a long 51 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 4: history of this. It's a blue blot in a otherwise 52 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 4: fairly sane state. But like most of the violent George 53 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 4: Floyd BLM rioters, not just the you know, maybe not 54 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 4: just the loud, boisterous ones who may have shoved somebody 55 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 4: or I don't know, thrown some No, like the violent ones, 56 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 4: we're giving a free pass in Hennepin County. And you know, 57 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 4: you've seen enough of the the repercussions of if you 58 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 4: remove negative consequences for bad actions, you're just going to 59 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 4: get more bad actions. And this guy or this system 60 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 4: up there, man, they seem to be way to the 61 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 4: left end. 62 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 2: Well, they just sat around, if I remember correctly, while 63 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 2: they were burning down towns and everybody just said, well, 64 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 2: they have a right to express their frustration with what's 65 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: going on. But in this this guy that got off. 66 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 2: Did he actually worked for Walls? Didn't he at some 67 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 2: point or in the government up there? He was? I 68 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 2: saw his name connected with the almost to be Vice 69 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 2: president Tim Walls. 70 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, he was fairly high up in the Minnesota DHS. 71 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 5: I guess. 72 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 2: But if you don't, if you don't punish behavior, then 73 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 2: behavior continues. I mean, that's that's how we raise Katie. 74 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 2: You know, if the bad behavior got punished. But if 75 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 2: the same thing applies to courts, if that's why they 76 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 2: went through the things in California where they made you 77 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 2: could steal up to a nine hundred and fifty dollars 78 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 2: and not be punished. So what did everybody do? They 79 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 2: went out and sold nine hundred and fifty dollars over 80 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 2: and over and over again. So if you don't prosecute 81 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: or punish somebody that destroys Tesla's, they're going to keep 82 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 2: destroying Teslas. I was. I'm curious to see whether Pam 83 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,359 Speaker 2: BONDI might figure out some way to make this a 84 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 2: federal crime. I don't think it is, but it might 85 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 2: be kind of ironic if all of a sudden the 86 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 2: Feds came in and the rested him. 87 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, if I'm some young radical or not so young radical. 88 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 4: This guy's hold enough to know better. And I see 89 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 4: this guy did over twenty one thousand dollars in damages 90 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 4: to Tesla's across many amp He's on videotape multiple times. 91 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 4: He's it's utterly clear that it is him. It is 92 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 4: a slam dunk prosecution, and he is just completely turned loose. 93 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 5: I'm going to start defacing Tesla's. 94 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,559 Speaker 2: Absolutely, of course you are. And you know the question 95 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 2: will be if you if you do it the right 96 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,799 Speaker 2: way and so you don't commit a federal crime, then 97 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 2: you can continue to you know, damage Tesla's. And yeah, 98 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 2: you're going to put you in a diversion program so 99 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 2: you can make restitution. But I know from personal experience 100 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 2: that most of the time restitution never gets paid. So 101 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 2: he's going to get a pass on this whole thing. 102 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 5: How do people get away with not paying the restitution? 103 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 2: Nobody ever enforces it. I mean, we don't have debtors prisons, right, 104 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 2: So if you're ordered to pay one hundred thousand dollars 105 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: in restitution and you don't have a job, or you 106 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 2: have a job that can you can't afford to pay 107 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 2: that kind of money. You just don't pay it, you 108 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 2: be violated on your probation maybe, but you can't be 109 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 2: any consequences. You can't put somebody in jail because they 110 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 2: can't afford to pay a debt. 111 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 4: So we have posited many times. We're talking to Larry 112 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 4: Goodman retired to Superior Court judge and elme to County, California. 113 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 4: We've posited many times that people need to pay serious 114 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 4: attention and bring serious energy to two things school board 115 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 4: elections and local prosecutors county whatever prosecutors. 116 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 2: Would you agree absolutely? I mean, that's how the other 117 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 2: side gets the foot in the door is normally my 118 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 2: experience has always been when I was actually on a 119 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 2: school board for eight years. But that's where people get 120 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 2: into politics, and that's where they get their foot in 121 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 2: the door, and that's where they make grassroots decisions that 122 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 2: affect people as they grow up. And then on the 123 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 2: other side is the prosecutors. If you don't have law 124 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 2: and order, you don't have a society. So you can 125 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 2: indoctrinate people through school board words, and then you can 126 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 2: can have a law and order or an effective society 127 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 2: by how people are prosecuting. 128 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 4: Final thing I wanted to ask you about Larry is 129 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 4: the question of due process. 130 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 5: It's it's a phrase. 131 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 4: It's been thrown a lot around a lot in discussing 132 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 4: various illegal immigrants, to getting heaved out of the country 133 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 4: in one form or another, whether it's shipped down to 134 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 4: that jail in El Salvador or Venezuelan gang members who 135 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 4: flooded into the country under some Biden policies we discuss 136 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 4: during our three I think it was anyway. Due process 137 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 4: obviously is a sacred notion for citizens in the United States. 138 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 4: It is the idea that the government can't behave arbitrarily, 139 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 4: that they've got to go through the steps to prove 140 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 4: that what they're doing is okay, because the founding fathers 141 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 4: understood how power corrupts. But when you hear the phrase 142 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 4: due process thrown around in terms of like the immigration topic, 143 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 4: what do you wish people understood. 144 00:07:56,200 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 2: Well, the due process depends upon what the procedure is 145 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 2: the due process and a criminal trial is a lot 146 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 2: different than a due process on an immigration hearing or 147 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 2: presenting probable cause to an immigration judge whether somebody should 148 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: be deported or not. So people you throw that around, 149 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 2: but it's a job specific term. Due process means different 150 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 2: things depending upon the procedure that's being applied. So they 151 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 2: can set up and say, yeah, he didn't get due process, 152 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 2: Well maybe he did. Maybe it all takes is a 153 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 2: probable cause statement to an immigration judge to find that 154 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 2: he's a member of a gang. That's the due process 155 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 2: he got. 156 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 4: So yeah, maybe the best way to illustrate it, illustrate 157 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 4: it is to flip it on its head and ask 158 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 4: what process is due here? I mean, like I would 159 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 4: have different due process for would you like to go 160 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 4: for coffee sometime? 161 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 5: From will you marry me? 162 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 4: There's different due process processing those two questions. 163 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 2: There absolutely is, but it's the same because you have 164 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 2: protections against the arbitrary actions of the government, and depending 165 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 2: on what action the government's taking would determine how much 166 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 2: due process you're entitled to. I guess is the best 167 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 2: way of putting it. But right now it's just becoming 168 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 2: the catch. It's the phrase of the week, or the 169 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 2: phrase of the last two weeks. Do process due process? 170 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 5: You know, right? 171 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 4: And it kind of hurts my heart to hear it 172 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 4: misused because it's such a fundamental principle in the country. 173 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 4: But again, what processes do in this circumstance. It varies 174 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 4: case by case, in situation by situation. Larry Goodman retired 175 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 4: to Superior Court Judge, Alma County, California. Larry, it's always 176 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,599 Speaker 4: great to talk. Don't be a stranger. Let's do it 177 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 4: again soon. 178 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me, and I'm usually always available. 179 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 4: I'm retired, all right, we will hit you up. Thanks 180 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 4: a lot more to come. Want to get into a 181 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 4: couple of other things that I was kind of hot 182 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 4: to trot for, including the Maryland parental rights opt out 183 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 4: policy case that the Supreme Court just heard oral arguments for. 184 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 4: You can't believe a the perverse stuff being taught to 185 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 4: the kids, and b how young they were in Maryland, 186 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 4: and the school district was saying to parents, no, we're 187 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 4: not going to tell you what you're teaching, and no 188 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 4: you don't get to opt out even for preschoolers. 189 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 6: Stay with us, Armstrong, Hetty, do you regret saying that 190 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 6: President Biden had a mental acuity, He had a sharpness 191 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 6: to him. He said that up until July of last year, 192 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 6: I said what I believed to be true. And do 193 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 6: you think he was as sharp as you? 194 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 1: I said, I had not seen decline and I hadn't 195 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: at that point. 196 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 6: You did not see any decline from twenty twenty four 197 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 6: Joe Biden to twenty twenty one Joe Biden. 198 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 1: Oh, when I said that he does the thing is heap? Look, 199 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 1: he was sharp, he was on his feet. I saw 200 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: him live event, I had meetings with him. 201 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 6: A couple of Tom Senator on his feet is not praise. 202 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 6: He can speak in sentences is not praise fair enough? 203 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 5: So that sound I like Elizabeth Warren who's interviewing him. 204 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 4: Yes, Sam Fragoso, whose work I don't know, but Sam 205 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 4: was frank and fair and also damn right. 206 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 5: Well she lives. 207 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 7: You're making a jackass yourself. Yeah, she and everybody else 208 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 7: is in a tough position. You're either going to have 209 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 7: to go full. I thought it was best for the 210 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 7: country that Biden wins, So I misled people about how 211 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 7: sharp he was because I thought the most important thing 212 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 7: was defeating Trump. That actually is not I think a 213 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 7: lot of Democrats would. 214 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 5: Forgive you for that. 215 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 7: The pretending you didn't notice is just nonsensical. 216 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, which it really? Which is the more damaging tack 217 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 4: to take? I think the first one's way better. 218 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 7: Well, the truth is generally better almost in every situation 219 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 7: in life, with very few exceptions. But I think also politically, 220 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 7: I think he'd be better off. Look, I thought Trump 221 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 7: was such a danger, and I thought he was okay 222 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 7: enough at least for the time being. 223 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 5: That I was okay with it. 224 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 4: And if I was going to spin it, if I 225 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 4: was a Democrat consultant, I'd say and say this, and 226 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 4: then I believed he would quickly give way to the 227 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 4: Vice President Kamala Harris, who almost won the last election. 228 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 7: Yes, that's way better than claiming you didn't notice. 229 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 5: I mean, that's just hilarious. Yeah, that's aw unless you 230 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 5: want to get he's got to stutter, Michael, you make 231 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 5: fun of people with stutters. He's got dementia. It's not 232 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 5: a stutter. Coming up. 233 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 4: Wild chumps indulged in not chumps. Can I have a 234 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 4: second take, Michael? Do we have enough tape? Yeah, go ahead, 235 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 4: take two. Wild chimps indulge in booze fueled feasts rare 236 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 4: video shows, stay with us. 237 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 7: Wild chimps indulge in booze fueled feasts is a. 238 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 5: Tough sentence and intriguing. 239 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 4: Yes, yes both, Yeah, Yeah, Drunk chimps on a rampage 240 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 4: stay with US live team coverage, plus the Maryland opt 241 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 4: out of perverse sex education case. 242 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 5: Want to go big on that got start of breaking news. 243 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 7: So Rubio, the Secretary of State, said the other day 244 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 7: that he is pulling out of the Ukraine Russia talks 245 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 7: because it doesn't seem like anything seriously is happening. Jd 246 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 7: Vance with more today standing in front of a plane 247 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 7: on a tarmac before he has going somewhere. Vice President 248 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 7: jad Vance, who may have killed the Pope, threatened to 249 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 7: abandon Russia and Ukraine peace negotiations ahead of the high 250 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 7: stakes meeting in London where the two warring nations are 251 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 7: to discuss Trump's final awe, which is what they're calling it. 252 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 7: They're calling this the final offer, which is you know, 253 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 7: that's straight out art of the deal. But we've issued 254 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 7: a very we've issued a very explicit proposal to both 255 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 7: the Russians and Ukrainians, and it's time for them to 256 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 7: either say yes or for the US to walk away 257 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 7: from this process. Events told reporters we've engaged in an 258 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 7: extraordinary amount of diplomacy. Yeah, all completely one sided. Hey, Ukraine, 259 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 7: you need to give away everything they've taken and continue 260 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 7: to have them on your border with the threat that 261 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 7: they can come back anytime, with no assurances from the 262 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 7: rest of the world that we could stop them if 263 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 7: they did. Russia, you get to keep everything you took, 264 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 7: but we'd like. 265 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 5: To stop public facing stance. Yeah. 266 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 4: Well, I've always thought that. I've always hoped there was 267 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 4: something going on behind the scenes that was tougher on 268 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 4: Russia is part of Ukraine. 269 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 7: But if there is, certainly has been reported yet, and 270 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 7: so what it looks to me like is going to happen. 271 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 7: So we've been saying for a long time is Putin's 272 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 7: got no reason to quit now. There was a report 273 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 7: that came out the other day that Russia has maybe 274 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 7: six months more that they can do this financially and 275 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 7: in terms of manpower. 276 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 5: Then they're just. 277 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 7: Out of gas because they're burning through between the two sides. 278 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 7: What did I read the other day thousand and a 279 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 7: week deaths or something like that, just unimaginable numbers. I mean, 280 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 7: you know, we were in a rack for fifteen years, 281 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 7: we were in Afghanistan for twenty years. We didn't get 282 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 7: the kind of numbers they get in a month in 283 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 7: terms of casualties. But anyway, if that's true, then maybe 284 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 7: Russia's not in the position we think of it. But 285 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 7: it sure looks like Russia's got no reason to quit, 286 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 7: and so they aren't going to And so our stance 287 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 7: is going to be this was our last deal or 288 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 7: walking away working out amongst yourselves. 289 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know. 290 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 4: I don't know, because uh Trump, it seemed to me 291 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 4: was going easy on and flattering Putin to get him 292 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 4: to the table and try to cut the best deal 293 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 4: that he could. But Trump also has a long history 294 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 4: of if you give me the middle finger after I've 295 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 4: given you that treatment, brace yourself because I'm going to 296 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 4: bring the hate. So do we just abandon Ukraine in 297 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 4: a way that you've more or less described here, or 298 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 4: does it go the other way and Trump decides to 299 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 4: lower the the the boom on Putin? 300 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 5: Well, I think we'll know if in weeks, if not days, 301 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 5: which direction that is? Yeah, yeah, probably so. 302 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 7: And will we continue to arm Ukraine the way we 303 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 7: have in the past or more or not at all? 304 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 4: Did I mention the wild chumps indulging in booze fueled 305 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 4: feasts that's coming up next half hour. The actual interesting 306 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 4: scientific aspect to this groundbreaking and shocking new video. And 307 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 4: there actually is kind of a scientific insight to. 308 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 5: Be had here. 309 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 4: And also the the Maryland school opt out case, what 310 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 4: was said the Supreme Court really interesting and so perverse. 311 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 5: Don't be so specific? 312 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 7: Do you take the fun out of booze fuel, chip feasts, 313 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 7: Armstrong and getty. 314 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 8: We will prevail in a fight over parental and religious rights. 315 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 8: The ninth Supreme Court justices waded into the classroom at 316 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 8: issue whether Montgomery County, Maryland should reinstate an opt out 317 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 8: policy for parents who don't want their children, some as 318 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 8: young as kindergarten learning from books containing LGBTQ and other 319 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 8: controversial themes. 320 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 9: There wasn't coercion here, that it was mere exposure. I 321 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 9: understood from the record that all that was required is 322 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 9: that the books be put on the bookshelf. 323 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 10: It has a clear moral message, and it may be 324 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 10: a good message. 325 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 2: It's just a message that a lot of religious people 326 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 2: disagree with. 327 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 4: We're talking about a Supreme Court case. The oral arguments 328 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 4: were heard yesterday Montgomery County, Maryland schools, saying parents do 329 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 4: not have the right to know about the sexually explicit 330 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 4: gender ideology lessons in public schools, and they do not 331 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 4: have the right to opt their children out for any reason, 332 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 4: including religious reasons. Now, of course, well here's here's the 333 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 4: other side, with typical rhetoric eighty two. 334 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 8: Michael, the opposing side also at the court today, we know. 335 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 11: That a number of our kids are LGBTQ plus and 336 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 11: the reality that we're talking about today is people want 337 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 11: to erase us from books, they want to erase us 338 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 11: from existing. 339 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 4: Right, and all the kids will commit suicide. Yeah, we've 340 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 4: heard it before. Here is what we're talking about. 341 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 2: Jack. 342 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 4: Imagine if you're four year old was given a book 343 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 4: with a fine the word list like a puzzle, and 344 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 4: your four year old is supposed to find the words intersex, flag, drag, queen, underwear, leather, 345 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:17,479 Speaker 4: xo xo, and more from their preschool teacher. 346 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 5: Okay, I don't want that. That's from my fourteen year old. 347 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 4: This is kids as young as three, and again, parents 348 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 4: have no right to hear about this and no right 349 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 4: to opt out the kids. Erase the gay community, right, 350 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 4: and they'll all commit suicide. Yes, and mock Moon versus Taylor. 351 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 4: Religious parents are asking the highest court to roll rule 352 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 4: the Montgomery School Systems policy unconstitutional for obvious reasons of 353 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,719 Speaker 4: faith and that sort of thing. They are not asking 354 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 4: the school district to remove the books from the classroom, 355 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 4: or even the removal of the ideological sexual material from. 356 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 5: Instruction, which I would like them to do. They are 357 00:19:56,119 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 5: merely asking for the right to be notified in the school. 358 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 4: No, No, they shouldn't be teaching radical gender theory to kids. 359 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 5: Good lord. And there's a long. 360 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 4: Standing precedent, so many of us have dealt with this 361 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 4: through the years of you can opt out of various 362 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 4: aspects of sex education through the years. 363 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 5: You've actually looked into that fairly recently, right. 364 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, so this is what Also, it's very hard 365 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 4: to have a handle on what you're opting out of 366 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 4: and what will still be in Yes, I mean, unless 367 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 4: you're going to go sit in the class every day. 368 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 2: Oh. 369 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 4: The activists are absolutely shameless in lying or hiding, lying 370 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 4: about or hiding what they're teaching. 371 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 5: So Ashley maguire. 372 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 4: Wrote this piece for the National Review, and obviously from 373 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 4: context you can figure out that she lives here there 374 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 4: in that county, she says, but my home county is. 375 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 5: Bizarrely dug in. 376 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 4: The booklist is part of a broader initiative in MCPS 377 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 4: that Schooled is focused on pre K pre K through 378 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 4: fifth grade titled building Community with LGBTQ plus affirming picture 379 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 4: books for kids who are so young they can't really 380 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 4: read about it. It's picture books, According to slides from 381 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 4: the initiative, which were presented to teachers and obtained by 382 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,959 Speaker 4: one news outlet, because they had to dig and find 383 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 4: this secret stuff because it was being hidden from the community. 384 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 4: Teachers have been given a certain quote of these books 385 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 4: to use in the classroom and can expect these lessons 386 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 4: to be quote embedded throughout. 387 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 5: And when why don't. 388 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 7: More teachers come forward and say, look at this crap 389 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 7: that they're making me teach. 390 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 4: Because they see that the administration, their fellow teachers are 391 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 4: arrayed against them, they go along to get along and be. 392 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 5: Risking your career, which is easier said than done. 393 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, let's see quote. As with all curriculum resources, there 394 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 4: is an expectation that teachers utilize these inclusive texts and 395 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 4: lessons with all students. Parents were told when parents sued 396 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 4: one group of activists supporting the initiative actually docks the 397 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 4: names of the families on Twitter. They wrote, if these 398 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 4: are your children's classmates. You have a duty to shun them. 399 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 5: So again, so you understand what we're talking about. 400 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 4: The curriculum resources include books such as Pride Puppy. Oh, 401 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 4: literally luring the kids into the van of this ideology 402 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 4: with a puppy Wow Cromer. 403 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 5: Right, you're right. Oh my god, I will call you wow. Oh. 404 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 5: It's worse than that. 405 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 4: The curriculum resources include books such as Pride Puppy, which 406 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 4: feature illustrated pictures of men in drag furries and words 407 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 4: such as queer and intersectional, and Born Ready, a story 408 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 4: about a five year old girl named Penelope who decides 409 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 4: that she really is a he and the response to 410 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 4: parents who opt to, who want to opt their children 411 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 4: out go to a private school and this author right, well, 412 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 4: that's what That's what I did with my kids. But 413 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 4: not everyone can afford a five figure opt out, even 414 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 4: if there is an alternative nearby. The result is a 415 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 4: kind of socioeconomic religious discrimination, religious freedom for rich people's. 416 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 417 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 4: Bill Barr is one of the more even handed commentators 418 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 4: I think around. In this autobiography called quote a constitutional 419 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 4: double standard. In America's educational system, public school students are 420 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 4: subjected to militant secular progressivism, which is quote given the 421 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 4: protections of the free exercise clause, but is quote not 422 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 4: subject to the prohibitions of the establishment clause. The problem 423 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 4: today is not that religion is being forced on others. 424 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 4: The problem is that secular values are being forced on 425 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 4: people of faith. Progressives claim to not like the law 426 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 4: being used to force certain moral views on them, but 427 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 4: now they want to use the law to force their 428 00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 4: moral views on others. And it's unequestionably it's quasi religious. Yeah, 429 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 4: I mean, and that's a good way to argue it 430 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 4: as a lawyer. But it's not because of. 431 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 7: My faith that I don't want using the book Pride 432 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 7: Puppy to teach my kid. 433 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 4: Oh my God about furries my five year old. Good lord. Now, 434 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 4: this is a longish clip, but I geek out on 435 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 4: this stuff, and I hope you will to, at least 436 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 4: to some extent. 437 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 5: This is Justice Gorsha. Gorsa's talking to the. 438 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 4: School board attorney Alan Schoenfeld Safety five. 439 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 12: Michael, I just want to make sure I understand a 440 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 12: few fact things and then a law question. What age 441 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 12: do you in Montgomery County teach students normally about human sexuality? 442 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 10: I think that it begins in either fourth or fifth grade. 443 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 12: The human sexuality class. 444 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 10: That family life in human sexuality curriculum. I'm not entirely sure. 445 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 12: It starts in fourth or fifth grade. I think is 446 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 12: there anything you can point us to in the record 447 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 12: on that. 448 00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 10: I don't think so? 449 00:24:59,040 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 2: Okay. 450 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 12: And second, these books are being used in English class. 451 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 10: The division between English class and other things in a 452 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 10: second grade classroom doesn't really exist. You're sort of in 453 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 10: a room with a teacher. 454 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 12: And sometimes I appreciate that I went to second grade too, 455 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 12: but it's it's part of the English curriculum that these 456 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 12: books are being used in. 457 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 5: That's I thought that was. 458 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm not I'm not fighting the premise. I'm just saying, 459 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 10: it's not the math class. 460 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 12: It's it's not the human sexuality class. 461 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 5: It's it is certainly not. 462 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 10: The human sexuality class. I'm just sort of fighting the 463 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 10: premise that there's a neat discisin. 464 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 12: And they're being used in English language instruction at age three, 465 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 12: some of them. 466 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 10: So Pride Puppy was the book that was used for 467 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 10: the pre kindergarten curriculum that's no longer in the curriculum. 468 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 12: That's the one where they are supposed to look for 469 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 12: the leather and things and bondage things like that. 470 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 10: It's not bond sex a woman and a leather. 471 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 12: Sex worker, right, No, no, it's not correct. 472 00:25:54,920 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 2: No, gosh, I read it. 473 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 12: In Great Dragon. 474 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 10: The leather that they're pointing to is a woman in 475 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 10: a leather jacket and one of the words is drag. 476 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 5: Queen and and they're supposed to look for those. 477 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 10: It is an option at the end of the book. 478 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 12: Correct, Yeah, okay, And you've included these in the English 479 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 12: language curriculum rather than the human sexuality curriculum to influence students. 480 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 2: Is that fair? 481 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 5: That's what the district court found. 482 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 10: I think to the extent the district court found that 483 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 10: it was to influence. It was to influence them towards 484 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 10: civility then natural consequence of being exposed whatever, but to 485 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 10: influence them in the manner that I just mentioned, Yes. 486 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 12: And responding to parents who were concerned. You agree that 487 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 12: there was some intemperate language used. 488 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 10: I don't know that those were responding to parents who 489 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,199 Speaker 10: were concerned. This was after the fact for most of 490 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 10: these comments, and this was in a very public setting 491 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 10: which obviously got heated, and some intemperate convents were used. 492 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 4: Certainly, you know what, they're perverts, they're sikos. 493 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 494 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 7: What this reminds me of is I never like the 495 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 7: people making all the arguments about marijuana where it's cancer 496 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 7: victims need to be able to smoke marijuana because they 497 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 7: don't have any hunger because of gamotherapy or anything like that. 498 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 7: And I thought, all along, you just want people to 499 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 7: be able to get high legally, which turns out it 500 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 7: was the case for like ninety nine percent of the 501 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 7: people were marching for this stuff. And I've never really 502 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 7: liked sex education in school because I've always just saw it, 503 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 7: what is this here? And I think that for most 504 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 7: of the people that were trying to jam it into school, 505 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 7: it was a camel's nose under the tent. 506 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 5: You start with like the really easy. 507 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 7: To defend, you know how bait where babies come from, 508 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 7: and you get this crap in there. 509 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 4: I've got to I think the human biology is perfectly defensible, 510 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 4: perfectly defensive. 511 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, but it went beyond that very quickly. 512 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, beyond the biological part, it's utterly indefensible. I 513 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 4: don't find difficult to draw a bright line. Well, how 514 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 4: about like gay sex and how about like furries and 515 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 4: and and leather or dry clean. Yeah, the importance of 516 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 4: needing to know how to please your partner, how specifically 517 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 4: whatever partner of whatever sex. Yeah, no, no, I don't 518 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 4: find it difficult to draw that line at all. Call me, 519 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 4: I'll spend an hour on it and we'll have our answer. 520 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 4: The idea that it's it's too hard to draw that 521 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 4: line is ridiculous. 522 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 7: The whole the whole premise of Matt and Bailey, which 523 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 7: we won't go through the whole thing again, is so 524 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 7: worth knowing because it makes sense, because it is it's 525 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 7: exactly the Oh you're saying cancer victims shouldn't be able 526 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 7: to get marijuana, and you're and your argument, oh you 527 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,479 Speaker 7: don't want biological side, but that's your that's what you 528 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 7: retreat to, right whenever you're trying to push in the 529 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 7: other stuff. 530 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 4: Right Exactly, you start with a very reasonable premise that 531 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 4: most people agree with. 532 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 5: And then you float a crazy, out there radical. 533 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 4: Premise and then somebody says, WHOA, I ambject to that, 534 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 4: and you say, you object to the very reasonable premise 535 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 4: I started with. It's a very very common technique, and 536 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 4: the reason it's ancient is it works, Yeah, doesn't effing 537 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 4: work around here? 538 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 7: God, that is something I'd love to hear all of 539 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 7: that Supreme Court argument. I heard some different Gorset stuff 540 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 7: on the news yesterday that I thought was good. Also, 541 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,719 Speaker 7: I mean the idea that drag Queen is in a 542 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 7: word search, give me preschooler for any age? Why would 543 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 7: that be at any age in your school? 544 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 2: Well? 545 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 5: See that? Yeah, I agree one hundred percent. But that 546 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 5: shows the depth of their depravity. 547 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 4: It's a concept that a little kid like that can't 548 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 4: even comprehend and has never come in contact with. They 549 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 4: are introducing the very concept of this. As the guy admitted, 550 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 4: you had to influence. Good Lord, our government schools are 551 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 4: so diseased. 552 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 7: So I didn't ask for this clip because I've been sick. 553 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 7: We'll have to dig it up for tomorrow. Did you 554 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 7: hear the thing where Martha McCollum was interviewed doing the 555 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 7: leader of the biggest teachers union in America about the 556 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 7: point of education. 557 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 5: We actually have a clip. 558 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 4: Maybe we have that clip that. Maybe we have that clip. 559 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 4: Go ahead, hit eighty nine. We'll see if it's what 560 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 4: Jack's describing. 561 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: Teachers times and classrooms are about how we engage kids 562 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: to actually be their full selves. 563 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 5: How we make sure that kids actually. 564 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 10: I mean, let's concern with them being their full self 565 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 10: than I am with them being. 566 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 3: Able to read and write and do math. And that 567 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 3: is the biggest problem that we faced in our school today. 568 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the same time destination. 569 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 7: The conversation was about what the point of public school is, 570 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 7: and the leader of the biggest teachers union in America 571 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 7: was saying, ninety percent of our classroom time is engaging 572 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 7: in how the children can evaluate their full self, either 573 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 7: the full cells or whatever. 574 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, as opposed to. 575 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 4: Reading, writing, math in what are you talking about? Guys, 576 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 4: let's tick up that whole interview. Let's have it for tomorrow. 577 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 4: I want to go through that bit by. 578 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 7: Bet who sends their kid to school in first grade, thinking, boy, 579 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,479 Speaker 7: I share hope they learned to be their full selves today? 580 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 4: How many people were the gauge applied for college and said, boy, 581 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 4: I did real well on the Act Becoming my full 582 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 4: Self test, And so I'll bet I'll get into Yale. 583 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 5: What are you talking about? 584 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 7: We'll finish strong next or. 585 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 5: The One More Thing podcast. 586 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 7: I want to talk about some things that were different 587 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 7: flying Southwest over my little vacation than I'd ever seen before. 588 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 5: So stay doing for that excellent looking forward to it. 589 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 4: Boy, I really enjoyed that listening to the oral arguments 590 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 4: corsicch and that attorney. I'm going to dig up the 591 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 4: rest of that and geek out on it today. More importantly, perhaps, Jack, 592 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 4: is that wild chimps have been seen in the wild 593 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 4: indulging in. 594 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 5: Booze fueled feasts. 595 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 4: According to a rare video, for the first time, wild 596 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 4: chimps have been cordate indulging in alcohol together. 597 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 5: Interestingly enough, they were drinking rose. 598 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 7: So do they stand outside of a convenience store and 599 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 7: wait till like a shifty adult is going in and say, hey, 600 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 7: we'll give you twenty bucks if you buys a sad. 601 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 5: Because chimps are under eight. 602 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: No. 603 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 4: Actually, they were eating and drinking from a volleyball sized 604 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 4: fermented breadfruit. 605 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 5: And what's interesting is that they seem to be. 606 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 4: Sharing it and bonding together, in effect, getting together for 607 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 4: a drink of the intoxicating fermented bread fruit. And scientists 608 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 4: who observed this say, look, the possibility is that these primates, 609 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 4: which are our closest relatives in the animal kingdom, could 610 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 4: also use booze as a social bonding tool, and they 611 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 4: believe the sharing of boozy food is likely widespread among chimps. 612 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 5: Well they're ninety nine percent are genetics more than that. 613 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 4: So the pure reviewed bindings offer a clue to another mystery. 614 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,479 Speaker 5: The origins of alcohol fueled feasting and humans could be 615 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 5: goes back. 616 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 4: Millions of years down Strong, It's. 617 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 5: Battle, Strong, get Ready, Katie. 618 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 10: Green and. 619 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 5: Strong Monkey Happy Hours. 620 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 4: Researchers have long suspected that human's ability to metabolize alcohol 621 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 4: could serve an evolutionary purpose, a theory known as the 622 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 4: drunken monkey hypothesis, which might be my favorite hypothesis. 623 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 7: You don't have to stop throwing your feces here, but 624 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 7: you can't. 625 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 5: You have to throw it at home or something like 626 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 5: them something something. 627 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 4: Hey, let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew, 628 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 4: beginning with our technical director Michael hit. 629 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 5: It Jack, do whatever it takes to get yourself well, 630 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 5: use whatever drug you need. 631 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 6: If you have to drive to Tijuana and get something illegal, 632 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 6: go for it, right. 633 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 4: That's right, takes her hih Katie in our Steam Muswoman final. 634 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 5: Thought, I think you should just go get drunk with 635 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 5: some monkeys. You'll feel a lot better. 636 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 637 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 5: Maybe, how drunk did you get last night? Monkey? 638 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 2: Drunk? 639 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 5: Monkey drunk? It's for you Jack. 640 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 7: A final thought for us, I wish it was some 641 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 7: easy test for the whole. This is gonna require an antibiotic, 642 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 7: so you don't have to be like miserable for. 643 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 5: Like a week and a half. 644 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 7: Before they can give you the drug that will get 645 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 7: you over at like forty eight hours. 646 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 4: All right, can you test me for a micro My 647 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 4: final thought enjoyed having a couple of extra days off, 648 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 4: various kids on spring break and that sort of thing. 649 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 4: I'm very good at, not working, very very good at it. 650 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,720 Speaker 7: Armstrong and Giddy wrapping up another grueling four hour workday. 651 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 4: So many people, thanks so little time, Thank you for 652 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 4: being here, good Armstrong and giddy dot com we have 653 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 4: the story about the drunken champs, for instance under hotlinks 654 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 4: cool we. 655 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 5: Will see you tomorrow. God bless America. I'm strong and gatty. 656 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 5: How many more hours am I doing this huge go 657 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,760 Speaker 5: away here? That's ludicrous? Right, I'm so. 658 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 6: Good, says I do think it risks escalating tensions? Well, 659 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 6: don't smoke crack. 660 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 5: Do you understand? 661 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 2: Can I understand the word you're sharing. 662 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 5: Okay, so let's go with a fine man. I can 663 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 5: jam some ambrosia and sing to it in my car. 664 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 5: Just jam the ambrosia. Are you sure of that? 665 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:18,720 Speaker 2: Dude? 666 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,879 Speaker 5: That high note? I still have this stuff, baby, Thank 667 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 5: you Warmstorm. 668 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 2: I'm getting it.