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Speaker 2: the podcast. Right Tony Kunnondman, we talked about agit prop right.

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Speaker 1: As it was a lot of agile prop.

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Speaker 2: Today, Oh my god, the show is full of agit prop,

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Speaker 2: and of course the winner mostly is they also good

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Speaker 2: to do times now if you're not a series of

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Speaker 2: articles which we would define as ajit.

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Speaker 1: Prop, and that word comes from agitation and propaganda. Joel

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Speaker 1: Kakin had a long piece in an online site, and

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Speaker 1: he's one of our favorite writers, and he described very

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Speaker 1: accurately what we've been talking about for a long time,

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Speaker 1: but that that's the phrase agit prop. It's designed to

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Speaker 1: agitate you and at the same time it is propaganda

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Speaker 2: And a lot of its origins are from communists to

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Speaker 2: Soviet Union. That's you know where they still remember the

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Speaker 2: famous Pravda publications that were put out by the communist

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Speaker 2: Soviet Union government to make the people believe in a

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Speaker 2: certain direction about what is reality. That's kind of what

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Speaker 2: we're facing today because a lot of these stories are

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Speaker 2: through the lens of the political ideology of the writers

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Speaker 3: That story.

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Speaker 1: It's far left progressive, woke speak.

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Speaker 2: So the first one we're going to cover is Noah Berman,

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Speaker 2: also going to Time staff writer.

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Speaker 3: Don't think we've ever really run across him before.

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Speaker 1: I looked up his bio. He focuses on clashes between

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Speaker 2: Oh, then that explains why he did this story. Someone

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Speaker 2: said to him. You know what red, someone said to him.

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Speaker 2: Were constantly seeing stories about crime in big city San Francisco,

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Speaker 2: into and find out about that with your red versus

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Speaker 2: blue stuff. So sure enough, complete with a very cute

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Speaker 1: Right, Because they now program their media site to hyper

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Speaker 2: They feel better, particularly if they're blue, and they see.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the Times has got it right.

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Speaker 2: It's just those crazy Trump right wing red state people

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Speaker 3: So that's basically what he wrote. Because the title of

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Speaker 2: Or the opinion column, Americans are hopelessly confused about big

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Speaker 1: Partisanship is partly to blame. Now, now, how condescending this is?

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Speaker 1: Such condescending horsemanure that we're hopelessly confused about big city crime.

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Speaker 1: Oh really, Noah Bierman needs to teach a lesson to

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Speaker 1: It's not murder. So it is a sense of anything

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Speaker 1: What do I care how many gang members get killed

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Speaker 2: I noticed the same thing when I read this article.

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Speaker 2: The first paragraph focuses completely on homicides. That's not what's

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Speaker 2: It's the day to day street crime. It's the drug use,

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Speaker 2: some of these cities that he's sort of defending in

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Speaker 2: this column. And it's about quality of life. It's the

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Speaker 2: broken window theory. You can't just place everything in the

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Speaker 2: framing of murders. But that's what he did right at

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Speaker 1: And it is the same smug, condescending, know it all

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Speaker 1: may not even be a crime, but it's terrifying, and

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Speaker 1: it's going on every day in great numbers. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: It's an outdoor mental institution. But what is Noah Pharaman. No,

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, then he cites the polling where Democrats,

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Speaker 2: it's nothing but a partisanship thing.

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Speaker 3: Well, no, it's not.

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Speaker 2: First of all, not everybody in the country's Democrat or Republican.

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Speaker 3: They want to answer these polls, and.

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Speaker 2: Of course yeah, they do seese things in a highly

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Speaker 2: partisanship manner, but that doesn't explain the greater middle of

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Speaker 2: to be shaded in them versus us the reality that

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Speaker 3: These things are true.

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Speaker 2: Seeing more stories, they're hearing more stories about problems in cities,

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Speaker 2: That's how people are viewing a lot of places around

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Speaker 3: And that's what this guy missed.

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Speaker 2: So a good job else gon to go times for

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Speaker 2: another bit of agit prop when we come back. Well,

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Speaker 2: speaking of retail theft, they got another colonist.

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Speaker 3: He was a guest.

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Speaker 2: Colonist to write about the smashing grabs and the headline

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Speaker 2: of this one is basically, our Southern California mob robbery

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Speaker 3: It's complicated.

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Speaker 1: Oh, once again, you're confused. It's complicated. You really don't

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Speaker 1: know what you're experiencing. We here at the El Segundo

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Speaker 1: Propaganda prov the Times, we'll explain it to you.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, you hear how this guy handled that.

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Speaker 2: Another chapter of agit prop. It's a big subject on

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Speaker 2: today's show. We're talking about propaganda that's appearing in media

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Speaker 2: with the first particular piece of propaganda from Alseagundo Times

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Speaker 2: writer who thinks if you believe that some cities are

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Speaker 3: And if you'll be the state cities are safe. Here's

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Speaker 1: Americans are hopelessly confused. Confused is the word, right, yes,

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Speaker 1: And partly it's your political beliefs Now.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes the Alsagondo Times goes to outsiders to write their

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Speaker 2: In this case, the man's name is Neil Saunders, Managing director,

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Speaker 3: It's something called.

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Speaker 2: Global Data Retail and the column that he wrote for

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Speaker 2: the Elsegundo Times is titled our Southern California mob robbery

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Speaker 2: is part of.

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Speaker 3: A retail crime wave. It's complicated.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, so all that video that you see on

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Speaker 1: It's not what you think. It's complicated. And I being

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So we starts with these stats. They called it shrinkage,

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Speaker 2: Shrink is on course to pass a billion this year,

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Speaker 2: Anyway, it's clear that shrink is on the rise and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, have to use the word cudgel.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I retail theft has become a cudgel used to

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Speaker 2: us back a couple of years, because there's murmurings, murmur,

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Speaker 2: the last time we talked about a story similar to this,

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Speaker 2: So there are rumors, and they're being started by the

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Speaker 3: What Night with that perspective.

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Speaker 1: In nineteen eighty eight, people voted for a ballot measure

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Speaker 3: Well, look who comes in the door on this story.

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Speaker 2: One of John's favorite all time politicians whose name hasn't

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Speaker 1: He's one of the stupidest, silliest legislators ever seen in California.

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Speaker 2: People don't pay any attention to that office. So he

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Speaker 2: I think he probably ran against another Democrat, but anyway,

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Speaker 2: So he thinks there needs to be some flexibility in

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Speaker 2: Vain to amend Prop One zero three to allow us

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Speaker 2: have to have the government be the backup here, to

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Speaker 2: be the insurer for people and property insurance, because if

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Speaker 2: these private insurance companies leave the state because it's cost

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Speaker 2: too much to do business here, what are the choices?

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Speaker 1: The public at large does a lot of dumb ass things. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we build homes in wooded areas, we build homes along

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Speaker 1: the shoreline, and so storms can destroy your home, Fires

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Speaker 1: can destroy your home.

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Speaker 3: What about on fault lines, on fault lines.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we build expensive homes on stilts near fault lines,

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Speaker 1: and then your stilt home comes tumbling down. Oh the tragedy.

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Speaker 1: Oh we're stupid people. We do dumb things, and then

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Speaker 1: we're upset with insurance rates and insurance companies. And when

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Speaker 1: they say, hey, look we've had enough, We're going to

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Speaker 1: go out of business here in California. Okay, or you

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Speaker 1: can't do that, well guess they can. You don't want

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Speaker 1: to pay them what they say they need to make

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Speaker 1: a profit, and they're entitled to make a profit. Then

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Speaker 1: they don't have to ensure you. Why do they have

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Speaker 1: to ensure you?

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Speaker 2: You know, so they think that the impact and you've

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Speaker 2: been hearing these stories of companies pulling out of California

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Speaker 2: with property insurance has reduced your choices by twenty percent. Well,

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Speaker 2: that's going to have an impact on the prices you pay.

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Speaker 2: So there's probably something going on in Sacramento to try

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Speaker 2: to help this problem.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure what it is.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they're calling it a bailout, but they need

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Speaker 2: to do something so we have somebody left that will

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Speaker 2: insure people's property because it's becoming hawful.

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Speaker 1: You've got to loosen up the restraints on how they

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Speaker 1: price insurance.

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Speaker 3: I mean what they're talking about, right, I mean, I

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Speaker 3: mean you have.

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Speaker 1: These like PG and E is allowed not to upgrade

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Speaker 1: their facilities for one hundred years until something falls down,

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Speaker 1: the wires ignite a field of brush, field of brush,

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Speaker 1: and then suddenly you have a million acres of fire. Well,

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Speaker 1: who do you think has to pay for all that damage.

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Speaker 1: It's these insurance companies, and it's PG and e's fault.

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Speaker 1: But PG and E goes and bribes Gavin and what's

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Speaker 1: her name, Jennifer Newsom, and so they get a bailout

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Speaker 1: from the government after bribing the Newsoms.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: We got more coming out to Johnny Ken k if

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Speaker 2: I AM six forty Live Everywhere, a heart radio app.

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Speaker 4: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI

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Speaker 4: AM six forty.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: One of the bigger stories this week, of course, was

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Speaker 2: that problem on a Delta Airlines flight that was going

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Speaker 2: from atlant in a Barcelona. Apparently a passenger well couldn't

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Speaker 2: help themselves, and they dribbled the diarrhea all the way

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Speaker 2: down the aisle as they ran to the bathroom, and

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Speaker 2: it caused the plane to turn around hours to clean up.

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Speaker 2: People delayed, the stench of sounds, the smell, it was horrible.

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Speaker 2: On the other end of that, now is a story

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Speaker 2: in the Wall Street Journal that Americans apparently don't have

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Speaker 2: that diarrhea problem. They have too much constipation, and apparently

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Speaker 2: the reliance on laxatives has gotten so big that there

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Speaker 2: aren't enough to go around. There's been a surgeon demand,

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Speaker 2: both from of course the aging population, but younger people

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Speaker 2: too are complaining a lot about their bowel movements and

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Speaker 2: constantly seeking something like miralaxe to help things.

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Speaker 3: Pass more easily.

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Speaker 2: Polyethylene glycol thirty three point fifty is the generic name

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Speaker 2: for the laxatives like miralaxs and glycolia.

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Speaker 1: All you have to do is drink a lot of water.

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Speaker 1: The way the system works, the more what do you drink,

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Speaker 1: the easier everything passes.

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Speaker 3: Don't forget fiber.

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Speaker 5: Prunes, have some dried fruit, lots of veggies.

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Speaker 1: Look, I don't know if you know, but nobody's allowed

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Speaker 1: to talk about prunes in front of me.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know that. No, here's a childhood it's a

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Speaker 3: childhood story.

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Speaker 1: It's a childhood trauma my mom. My mom used to

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Speaker 1: serve me cold, gooey prunes out of a jar every morning.

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Speaker 5: Oh, because you were constipated, and she used a plunger

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Speaker 5: to try and get things to come out right.

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Speaker 3: That was the next step.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well no, the plunger was first. Oh yeah, and

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Speaker 1: then when I ran out of the bathroom screaming. Then

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Speaker 1: it was the bowl of prunes every morning, and I

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Speaker 1: would sit there and we'd have a standoff. I'd be

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Speaker 1: eight years old, staring at my bowl of prunes and

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Speaker 1: she'd tell me, well, you have to eat the prunes

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Speaker 1: so you can't go to school. And I said, well,

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Speaker 1: then I go. I don't go to school. I'm not

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Speaker 1: eating those prunes.

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Speaker 2: There are other sources of fibers she might have tried,

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Speaker 2: and then then she's not appealing to children.

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Speaker 1: She would pour prune juice for me, so I'd have

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Speaker 1: a bowl of prunes with a glass of prune juice.

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Speaker 2: Now have to say, my mother did the same thing.

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Speaker 2: She wasn't She didn't force it on me, but she

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Speaker 2: always had prune juice in the house, and she put

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Speaker 2: prunes in front.

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Speaker 3: Of me too.

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Speaker 1: I eat prunes to this day.

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Speaker 5: In fact, I had some yesterday. They're delicious, They're good

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Speaker 5: for the system.

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Speaker 1: See this is why you give me flashbacks to drama.

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Speaker 1: Eat taco bell for a week and it'll flush your

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Speaker 1: system right out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. That's right.

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Speaker 1: Why were mothers like obsessed with their bowels?

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Speaker 5: Because we get nervous if things aren't coming out after

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Speaker 5: a few days.

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Speaker 1: She took me to it the emergency room when I

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Speaker 1: was four years old.

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Speaker 5: Well how long were you constipated.

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Speaker 1: For I don't know. Apparently long enough for her to panic.

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Speaker 2: So some of it is the aging population, And it is,

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Speaker 2: as John said, the lack of war, the lack of exercise.

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Speaker 3: So it's like the way most Americans view many things.

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Speaker 3: They just want the easy answer.

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Speaker 2: Let's just go to the drug store and buy miurle

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Speaker 2: acts and take a lot of that and that'll help us,

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Speaker 2: rather than eating more fiber or drinking more water or exercising.

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Speaker 2: For me, running really works sometimes you after a good run, boy,

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Speaker 2: do I have to go? Because it's the movement. It

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Speaker 2: gets things.

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Speaker 1: The best movement. Movement leads to movement.

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Speaker 3: Movement leads to old.

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Speaker 2: I said this a few months ago and John Cobelt's

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Speaker 2: jaw dropped. But according to a gastro enterology professor at

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Speaker 2: Mayo Clinic, doctor Brian Lacy, the healthy range is between

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Speaker 2: three a day and three a week. And John Copelt

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Speaker 2: couldn't believe three a day, which that is? That seems

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Speaker 2: like a lot to me.

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Speaker 1: That's a busy day maybe.

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Speaker 2: But as Deborah Mark said, up take your intake of

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Speaker 2: fresh fruits, vegetables, and whole grains before you turn to

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Speaker 2: these fiber powders, fiber gummies and everything else that everybody

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Speaker 2: thinks is a quick fix.

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Speaker 3: For their problems.

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Speaker 5: You know, what I'm surprised about is that people aren't

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Speaker 5: going to their gas or doctor and trying to get that.

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Speaker 5: You know that concoction where before you have that colonoscopy,

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Speaker 5: you have to drink that disgusting stuff. I mean, let

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Speaker 5: me tell you, that will help you, that'll get everything.

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Speaker 3: I got that one of my colonoscopies. They gave me that.

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Speaker 2: But the next time I just used neuralax and that

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Speaker 2: seemed to do the trick. That was just over the

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Speaker 2: counter with the drug store.

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Speaker 3: You're lucky. Oh your doctor gave you the description one.

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Speaker 5: God, it's disgusting.

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Speaker 3: But if I was lucky, it's still I had to

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Speaker 3: drink a lot of it. So it really was kind

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Speaker 3: of a grueling night, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: I know what you mean.

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Speaker 2: Searches for laxative pills on Amazon have more than tripled

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Speaker 2: in the past year, double double digit sales growth in

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Speaker 2: recent years for these companies with fiber supplements.

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Speaker 3: Well, people use fiber.

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Speaker 1: Some people want to use it to lose weight real quickly,

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Speaker 1: because you could is two or three pounds by clearing

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Speaker 1: out the by clearing out the bowels.

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Speaker 3: The excess.

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Speaker 1: Well, they used to do that. Jockeys and wrestlers would

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Speaker 1: do that if they'd run here for the women, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they take laxatives for a day and blow out all

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Speaker 1: the excess.

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Speaker 2: All right. When we return, New York City Mayor Eric

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Speaker 2: Adams says, the city is going down. The migrant crisis

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Speaker 2: is so bad that we may never recover. Might be

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Speaker 2: on Purply We'll talk about that story and one connected

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Speaker 2: to it coming up. Johnny Ken CAFI AM six forty

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Speaker 2: live everywhere, iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 1: And Deborah Mark Live in the twenty four hour Cafe Isroom.

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