WEBVTT - Scotty Riggs

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's get it going right here, right now.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Eyes up Here, and you're listening to a

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<v Speaker 1>brand new Eyes up Here exclusively on our Patreon channel

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<v Speaker 1>as well as on the Creative Control podcast network. If

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't know of by now. My name is Chad

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<v Speaker 1>and every single week I've joined here with my mouse

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<v Speaker 1>eared wearing Queen of Extreme co host, the one and

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<v Speaker 1>only Queen of Extreme, Miss Francie. Yes, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>weird week for us because mister Chad o here disrupted

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<v Speaker 1>my week a lot with his flip flopping because he

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<v Speaker 1>had to move. Oh wow, he had to ruin my

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<v Speaker 1>week and make me work on a Saturday night. So

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have it in me to put on a

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<v Speaker 1>nice shirt. So I'm wearing my Mickey MIAs shirt today.

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<v Speaker 1>I apologize. I appreciate the accommodation very much. It looks

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<v Speaker 1>like my nipples are sticking out, but it's not. I

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<v Speaker 1>have a brawl on. Look at the Do you see that?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you see that? Yeah? No, I can't. I see

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<v Speaker 1>Mickey's nose. Okay, no, you're right, you're my braw pattern.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness, Oh it's funny. Oh the drama of

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<v Speaker 1>being a woman what you have to worry about. My

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<v Speaker 1>nipples are hard. Nobody cares. No, they're not, though I

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<v Speaker 1>have a look I have I have a brawl on,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's not a nipple. What a night for hard nipples?

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<v Speaker 1>Here as we record on a Saturday, the second time

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<v Speaker 1>we've ever recorded on a Saturday. I again, I appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>the accommodation. It has been one heck of a week

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<v Speaker 1>end of the week. Specifically, what's this? Oh, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>a tiny little violin that you're playing for me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not asking for violin, just you know, I'd love for

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<v Speaker 1>somebody to experience it with me more than anything. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I moved when I was eight once pregnant. No, I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't eight month I was. No. I ran the show

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<v Speaker 1>when I was eight months. I moved when I was

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<v Speaker 1>like we was I six four and a half months

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<v Speaker 1>something like that, But I was pregnant. I'm not the

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<v Speaker 1>first person to move. I'm not the last person to move.

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<v Speaker 1>Ahead tell us it's just been you know. So I

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<v Speaker 1>sold one house the house i'm currently and this is

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<v Speaker 1>actually the last ever recording to be done in the house. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, you've seen it behind me there it

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<v Speaker 1>is it's almost done. All the stuff's off the walls,

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<v Speaker 1>the jerseys, everything's off the walls. My new studio will

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<v Speaker 1>not fully be ready, but I will be in its

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<v Speaker 1>for our next recording. So yeah, well it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's the wreck it's the wreck area, the

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<v Speaker 1>wreck room of my basement that it's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>where the desk is going to be, and it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be very cool, and it's gonna be finished eventually. But

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<v Speaker 1>the next time we record, I'll be in the new place.

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<v Speaker 1>Just the journey to get to here, I had to

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<v Speaker 1>sell my one house to buy my next house. Okay, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>that was the process. We did it. It's all good.

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<v Speaker 1>The people who are buying my house, or have bought,

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<v Speaker 1>which I'm now renting from them until I move out,

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<v Speaker 1>have been assholes. Oh they have been dickheads the whole

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<v Speaker 1>entire time as we've been finishing that transaction. The people

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<v Speaker 1>that were moving into I think, did I tell you this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to go into it on the air,

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<v Speaker 1>but I told you the story behind the house, correct, No,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, I will tell you off the air. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't tell it on the air for legal reasons. But

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<v Speaker 1>the people were lovely, lovely, lovely, lovely people. Older couple.

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<v Speaker 1>We went to do, like, you know, the inspection. Whenever

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<v Speaker 1>we met them, they weren't supposed to be there, but

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<v Speaker 1>they were. They were very nice. The woman cornered Liz

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<v Speaker 1>and was like, hey, you know, I would like to

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<v Speaker 1>leave this stuff for you. She politely just said yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a couple of things. It was a rug

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<v Speaker 1>sconces and fertilizer for the garden. Right, okay, whatever, she

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<v Speaker 1>just politely. Liz says, you can tell Liz anything. She

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<v Speaker 1>will say. Yes, she's the worst because of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>She said, yes, okay, we go for our preliminary walkthrough

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<v Speaker 1>the day before closing and we open the door to

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<v Speaker 1>the house, to the house trash, what dirty, beyond belief

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<v Speaker 1>stuff everywhere they left, shower curtains, shower mats, stuff and draws,

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<v Speaker 1>hair brushes, toothbrushes. Oh everywhere you turned around, dog match

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<v Speaker 1>dog peep heads in the closet, a bed frame, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a headboard, not fertilizer, every garden tool known to man

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<v Speaker 1>that you could possibly imagine and broken, not like something

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<v Speaker 1>you would keep, like, oh hey that's a new rate

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<v Speaker 1>they left behind. Thanks, you're just trash, trash, trash, And

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<v Speaker 1>as we're getting the shit sandwich from the new people

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<v Speaker 1>buy in our house, We're sitting here going like what

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<v Speaker 1>the hell, Like, what are you gonna you know, what's

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<v Speaker 1>what are you gonna do for us? Short answer was nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>They were gonna do nothing. They didn't want to come

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<v Speaker 1>and pick it up. They thought that that was acceptable

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<v Speaker 1>because Liz said yes to those three the three items.

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<v Speaker 1>They thought they were just being nice and helpful. How

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<v Speaker 1>are they being helpful by leaving garbage in your house?

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<v Speaker 1>Pete id's from a dog? Got me? Got me? So said,

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<v Speaker 1>excuse me, get this shit out of here? Yep, right now,

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<v Speaker 1>not to mention. The day before our walkthrough, I get

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<v Speaker 1>a text from my real estate agent saying, hey, the

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<v Speaker 1>owners would like to see if you would be interested

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<v Speaker 1>in buying their lawnmower right and I'm like, I politely decline,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, no, thank you. I looked up a brand

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<v Speaker 1>new lawnmower. I can get one for ninety nine dollars

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<v Speaker 1>at Walmart. If I wanted to write, I could even

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<v Speaker 1>get the plug plugged in one. Now you know it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like a vacuumcume your rug with are your garden

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<v Speaker 1>or grass whatever, and I go there, I go them

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<v Speaker 1>motherfucking goddamn stupid lawnmower better be in the goddamn garage

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<v Speaker 1>if they left all this shit here and it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted us. They wanted us to buy a stupid lawnmower,

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<v Speaker 1>but left all the other crap behind. Well, now, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>is it like appropriate for you to tell your real

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<v Speaker 1>estate agent, hey, get them over here and clear this

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<v Speaker 1>shit out of here, like yes, okay, but we did, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So it turns out the the old happy couple were

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<v Speaker 1>are not a happy couple. They are divorced. They show up,

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<v Speaker 1>they sold the house right, Well, they show up at

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<v Speaker 1>eight o'clock, except they're supposed to meet my agent at

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<v Speaker 1>eight o'clock the morning of our closing. We were closing.

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<v Speaker 1>It supposed to be at nine. Got moved whatever. They

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<v Speaker 1>were supposed to meet at eight o'clock. They got there

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<v Speaker 1>at seven. They still had a key to the house.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't their house anymore. They signed the paperwork the

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<v Speaker 1>day before, so they go into the house like it's

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<v Speaker 1>theirs not. They took everything this time, including the Wisconsins

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<v Speaker 1>and the rug and the stuff. They were gonna leave

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<v Speaker 1>behind for Liz. The one thing I was happy they

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<v Speaker 1>left there was a bar that they had bolted into

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<v Speaker 1>the floor. You're not allowed to You're not allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>take anything that's bolted. So I was like, yes, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>the one thing that I would have like wanted them

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<v Speaker 1>to leave is still there. So we have this brand

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<v Speaker 1>new bar area down in our basics. But just like

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<v Speaker 1>so that my agents like they are pissed. They're so

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<v Speaker 1>pissed they think that you're ungrateful. They were cursing us

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<v Speaker 1>the whole time. Yeah, all my agents like, look, assholes,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys left all this trash behind, Like missus, asshole,

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<v Speaker 1>you're being unreasonable and my clients shouldn't buy a house

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<v Speaker 1>that looks like this, Yeah, exactly. Oh it was just

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<v Speaker 1>it was brutal. I mean I understand, you know a

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<v Speaker 1>couple things like you said, but when you get to garbage,

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<v Speaker 1>when you used pad that a dog pissed all over

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<v Speaker 1>in a hair brush, I got DNA. Yeah, some toothbrush

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<v Speaker 1>that somebody used, that's disgusting. I don't want to touch

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<v Speaker 1>other people's stuff. A bath mat around the toilet that

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<v Speaker 1>like little pp dribble could get on. I'm gonna touch that.

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<v Speaker 1>That is too much. Yeah, it was bad, so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all in all, they came and collected it. We had

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<v Speaker 1>a cleaner at U at eight o'clock this morning, come

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<v Speaker 1>in and clean. Well. The context of the contract was

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<v Speaker 1>that it only needed to be broom swept, right, but

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't broom swept. There was you could see legit

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<v Speaker 1>dirt all over the place. They had contract dirt all

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<v Speaker 1>over like they there was nothing. So our cleaners come in, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you pay a pretty penny, they come in and clean.

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<v Speaker 1>I swear I never seen a bathroom almost do the

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<v Speaker 1>thing like shiny and doing it now. It was how

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<v Speaker 1>the house should have looked yesterday. Yeah, sorry, that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>a disappointment. Yeah, it was bad yesterday. Jada mastiff dog okay,

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<v Speaker 1>might as well had a bear in the house. And

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<v Speaker 1>it smells so much like dog. All the windows open,

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<v Speaker 1>nice little breeze coming off the pond behind the house.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice little breeze coming in. You smell dog when it

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<v Speaker 1>changes directions. Not a fan. Well, let's hope the worst

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<v Speaker 1>is over. Yes, you know, and you don't find anything

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<v Speaker 1>else and you have a very happy life there. I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate that and extending the invite to the Queen of

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<v Speaker 1>Extreme Family to Virginia. We finally get an invitation. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>now I have the whole floor for you. You guys.

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<v Speaker 1>If there's a kitchenette, there's a bedroom, a bedroom, you

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<v Speaker 1>got your own private area. You just have a day

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<v Speaker 1>have at it. Thank you. Well, we'll see what's what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on. I'll ask the hope if hey, yeah, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>try to make it worth your while and find something

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<v Speaker 1>down here. Well, my sister in laws down there too. Something.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's right, Yes, that's right. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>prob Yeah, proximity from you guys, thirty minutes thirty minutes

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<v Speaker 1>is it? Thirty minutes from okay, right down Route seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll have to figure something else. I'll skipping a jump.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm super excited for you guys. I hope it is

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<v Speaker 1>everything that you have dreamt of, and I hope it's

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<v Speaker 1>good for the children, and I hope you find new

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<v Speaker 1>swingers to hang out with, because you know, you make

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<v Speaker 1>it a little lonely in that new development of yours,

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<v Speaker 1>so pretty big neighborhood, and you never know, I just

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<v Speaker 1>got to hang that upside down pineapple outside the house

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<v Speaker 1>and see who starts knocking on the door. Is that

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<v Speaker 1>what you do? That is the international sign for you're

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<v Speaker 1>in a safe place for swingers. Oh is it my homework? Girl? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I know what I'm talking. Idea. Yeah, no, idea. Well

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<v Speaker 1>listen about me. This is your platform power. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm dandy. I'm dandy. I'm well. Uh you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have that much of excitement in my house this

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<v Speaker 1>week as you did. But I'm glad it's the weekend

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm ready to party. Oh yeah, no, I'm good.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good. Just did some work and you know, spend

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<v Speaker 1>some time with the kids. Same ould team. Weld did

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of walking. I have my two pound weights

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<v Speaker 1>that I put on each hand and I'm like the

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<v Speaker 1>the mom that power walks through the city and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing that all week. Today I took a rest day.

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<v Speaker 1>My hip was really bothering me. But uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we just had a little pizza party and now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>ready for our guests, who I can't wait to talk to.

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<v Speaker 1>I've kept in touch with him over the years through

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<v Speaker 1>mostly through the internet, and I've been reaching out to

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<v Speaker 1>him and I'm just like I'm extending an invite will

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<v Speaker 1>you come on? And he keeps saying yes, but the

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<v Speaker 1>timing was never right, and our worlds just came as

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<v Speaker 1>one this this Saturday. So I'm I'm excited to have

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<v Speaker 1>him on and hopefully I sent him the link, so

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully he'll be up yet yet Ready. I'm pumped because

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<v Speaker 1>like the fact that he was able to accommodate, the

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<v Speaker 1>switch of days was even better Like that, that to

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<v Speaker 1>me was the best part, because that's that meant it

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<v Speaker 1>was meant to be. Well, you know, it's funny. Can

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<v Speaker 1>you please tell our children to stop? It sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>a herd of cattle going through my house right now,

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<v Speaker 1>so it sounds like a parade. Up stare two children

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<v Speaker 1>running through the hardware course. When I was talking to him,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, do you need a link for the computer

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<v Speaker 1>or do you want me to send you a text message?

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<v Speaker 1>He writes back, send me a text. I don't own

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<v Speaker 1>a computer. Okay, are you a caveman? What is going on? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so he's gonna be on his phone for this one.

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<v Speaker 1>But I love him and I'm excited. Oh wait, and

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<v Speaker 1>I got a text message. Link ain't working, he says,

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<v Speaker 1>what I sent him? The link Okay, let me send

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<v Speaker 1>it again. America, I'm doing my class part out. If

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<v Speaker 1>you see him come and better run for cover. I

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<v Speaker 1>it played at my bachelor party. You were such a

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<v Speaker 1>freaking mark. Hey, I didn't book the bachelor party. But

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden the music started to play like

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<v Speaker 1>if it's got their music had a great faded like later.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what we need to start doing. We need

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<v Speaker 1>to start playing theme music when the guest comes on.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to if I played it would play

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<v Speaker 1>over them. But he's got one that I wish I

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<v Speaker 1>could just play on loop in my brain twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>or seven. I pull it up right now? Can I

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<v Speaker 1>play it? You could? Sure? Let me run and better

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<v Speaker 1>run for cover? American? Mayl hold on, there it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna play it. Tell when he comes on. Nobody yet?

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<v Speaker 1>Not yet? All right? No, we have an ad. I

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<v Speaker 1>hate that head, I know. Hold on, hold on, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do it when it comes on. Can you you

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<v Speaker 1>can edit all this out right? Yeah? I can get

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<v Speaker 1>it out the filler. Ain't the filler? Come on? I

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<v Speaker 1>just love that it shows that in a world of

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<v Speaker 1>cowboy and Eagles fans, everyone can be on the same page.

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<v Speaker 1>Already football allegiances aside. We can all as one society,

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<v Speaker 1>be one. I'll get along. Yes, oh my god, for

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<v Speaker 1>the time being, before this this world goes to hell

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<v Speaker 1>in a hand basket. Are we going to be in

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<v Speaker 1>trouble for playing this song? No, okay, because it is

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<v Speaker 1>it is his theme. We'll be laughing over it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not really going to be caught. You know, if you

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<v Speaker 1>come to Virginia, I hope you bring a very fuel

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<v Speaker 1>efficient car. Why not because gas is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>seventy five dollars a gall Well, we might have to

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<v Speaker 1>wait till twenty twenty four. That's true. That's true. That's true.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see what happened. Or you could take either a

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<v Speaker 1>Jetson's car, you know the one that goes yeah, or

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<v Speaker 1>you know Winston's car where we use our feet. Oh okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, you want to play it, you want to

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<v Speaker 1>do your music. This is my good friend from the

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<v Speaker 1>American Males. This is Scottie Riggs. Everyone wait, wait, go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead through. She wanted to give you a proper intro.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you ready? Are you ready to come through your current? No? No, no. Not.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the biggest memories of seeing Mick Foley sing

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<v Speaker 1>this song one time. It's to you, no, not to me.

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<v Speaker 1>It was something on the YouTube thing back when he

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<v Speaker 1>was in t n A. It was him, uh, Jimmy

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<v Speaker 1>Borosh Abyss and somebody else, and all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>the songs started playing the off shore doing the clap

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<v Speaker 1>and speaking. Day I remember pointed out us, yeah, yeah, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this is Mina marcus is expression when we heard this

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<v Speaker 1>song the first time. Guess what you were my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>American male And Jimmy Hart was sitting there going, yeah, baby,

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<v Speaker 1>it's got to divo and where Mark was like, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't say again you didn't love the theme song. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was catchy. It was. It was the toughest

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<v Speaker 1>it it was. We actually did love it. I loved

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<v Speaker 1>it because it was so cheesy. It just gave us.

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<v Speaker 1>It gave people something when they heard it, they knew

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<v Speaker 1>they knew who it was, you know, the one of

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<v Speaker 1>those on one of those things where like there was

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<v Speaker 1>like who's coming out now? Soon as they heard they're

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<v Speaker 1>like America males of course. Well, first, let me just

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<v Speaker 1>say it's great to see you you too. You look great,

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<v Speaker 1>You look great. I didn't dress for you today. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>I usually dress for you, though, well I was just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say, what the hell are you wearing because you're

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<v Speaker 1>kissing me off. That's fine. I usually get dressed up

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, but because our schedule is so often.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a Saturday night and I had pizza and

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<v Speaker 1>I feel more. I wore a big shirt, so iPod

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<v Speaker 1>and this is not my nipple. This is my bra.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you see that? It wasn't looking but because what's

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<v Speaker 1>it look? Eyes up here, yes, eyes up here. I

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<v Speaker 1>been looking when you had to point it out for

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<v Speaker 1>the people American Mail, you had to point out that's

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<v Speaker 1>not your nipple. It looks it is not my nipple.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a bra because I you had, but because

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<v Speaker 1>of American Mail, your favorite, you had to point that out. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I also pointed it out to chatter earlier because I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if he looked at me weird because it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like I'm excited. But it could have been because

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<v Speaker 1>of Scottie Riggs. Just couldn't have been. I'm sure it

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be the first nipple that popped out after the America.

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<v Speaker 1>The Queen of definitely signed a lot of booths. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so Scotty, Uh, what do you want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>because I know you've done a bunch of interviews. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>how did you get started? You know, when did you

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<v Speaker 1>break into business? I did that once with you for

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<v Speaker 1>like two and a half hours to our trip. We

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<v Speaker 1>interviewed you in twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen. It was epic.

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<v Speaker 1>You made our it was it was an unbelievable experience

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<v Speaker 1>for me. I'm glad you were there. And that's all

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta say. I don't want to sell I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to sound like a mark anymore. I'll just let

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<v Speaker 1>you guys talk. No, it's all cool to me. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll talk about anything and everything because it's to me

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<v Speaker 1>a conversation. I hate like doing any Remember I did

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<v Speaker 1>what was that? Uh? I can't think of the dude's name,

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<v Speaker 1>the guy who used to come around East w all

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<v Speaker 1>the time business inside, Yeah, Finstein. I did his thing

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<v Speaker 1>and sat there. It was in Wister Salem, North Carolina,

0:19:35.480 --> 0:19:38.000
<v Speaker 1>sat there in the hotel room and the guy sat

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<v Speaker 1>there were like three to four pages of this question.

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<v Speaker 1>It was question after question after and I'm sitting there

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<v Speaker 1>going and he and noybody thought I was like bragging

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<v Speaker 1>about our American maleness or flock atrocities or debauchery type stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like me, it was the questions the

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<v Speaker 1>guy who was asking the question what in't Finstein? It

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<v Speaker 1>was his helper was asking all these this random gross

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<v Speaker 1>question rad and all this that going You sure just

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<v Speaker 1>where you want to ask? Yeah? Yeah, the fans want

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<v Speaker 1>to know this stuff. I'm like you fans want to know?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want to know? You were kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>putting yourself over for being one of the boys. Basically, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a question that I was being asked you

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<v Speaker 1>what't like I was putting myself. No, but that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>the path that they took. Yeah, yeah, well that wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>your fault. No, I don't do that here. I let

0:20:39.680 --> 0:20:41.760
<v Speaker 1>you say whatever you want. But I thought we can

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the first meeting that we had in ECW

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<v Speaker 1>because Rob van Dam brought you in as just his friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you came early. I remember meeting you, like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what year it was, but you came to

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<v Speaker 1>just visit. That was That was ninety five. Actually, because

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<v Speaker 1>me and Marcus were the World Tag Team camps, we

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<v Speaker 1>had a weekend off and I got in touch of

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<v Speaker 1>Rob as a dude got weekend off. What are you

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<v Speaker 1>doing this weekend? And he's like, dude, we're up in Philly,

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<v Speaker 1>come to the show. So I said, sure, came up there,

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<v Speaker 1>met Tommy for the first time, met Pauli for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time over at the Marriotte by the airport and

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<v Speaker 1>hung with them, got a bite to eat, and they

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<v Speaker 1>took me to the show. Rode with them over there.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember if rob was with us or not. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Robin was with us. We all rode over in the

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<v Speaker 1>minivan together and that was pretty much. That was like,

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<v Speaker 1>that was for talking about Minie and Carino and all

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<v Speaker 1>the guy's nova and you know everyone that was there.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that was the same night Kimona did her

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<v Speaker 1>dance broke. Yeah. I remember I was at one of

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<v Speaker 1>the holes in the wall, going, hey, what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>with this? And because they were like checked this out

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<v Speaker 1>and I looked over and that was the first time

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<v Speaker 1>I met Taz too. But he didn't like me being there.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember he had an attitude towards me for some reason.

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<v Speaker 1>And the only reason I found out afterwards was he

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't want me to be in the dress room

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<v Speaker 1>because you thought I was there to take somebody's job.

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<v Speaker 1>He thought I was looking for a job or a

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<v Speaker 1>spot or something. I was like, does he not know?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like with w CW's in the world. But he

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<v Speaker 1>was just a little standout. He was the only one.

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<v Speaker 1>It was kind of stand offers to me, huh, okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what were your impressions? I mean, you know, what did

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<v Speaker 1>you think about us? What did you think about the building?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you hear about this great ECW arena and then

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<v Speaker 1>you get there and it is a shithole. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I remember it was like the toilet triver flowing,

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<v Speaker 1>the floor was wet, the rest room was just a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of you know, rooms and whatever with unfinished walls. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>all that kind of stuff. But and to me it

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of cool because it was like it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>because you gotta remember. I was also in Memphis for

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<v Speaker 1>eight months from January ninety five to August ninety five,

0:23:08.520 --> 0:23:11.680
<v Speaker 1>rustling six nights a week, sometimes in good buildings like

0:23:11.720 --> 0:23:16.040
<v Speaker 1>you missed off Coliseum, Louisville Gardens Evansville was a good building.

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<v Speaker 1>But then on a couple of nights of the week

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<v Speaker 1>on Thursday and Fridays at spots shows it would be

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<v Speaker 1>high school gyms, churches, all kind of just run down

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<v Speaker 1>buildings that some of the guys would run And so

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<v Speaker 1>to me to come to y'all's arena, it was like

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<v Speaker 1>the building didn't matter, but the vibe was so cool.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the thing. I think. Probably I can see

0:23:39.160 --> 0:23:42.080
<v Speaker 1>it smirk in your face. Probably everyone tells you that,

0:23:42.400 --> 0:23:45.320
<v Speaker 1>because it really it was real. When you walk in there,

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<v Speaker 1>you felt an attitude, You felt the vibe, you felt

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<v Speaker 1>an energy that was legit. Yeah, that was the one

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<v Speaker 1>thing that really stuck with me for the longest time.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody that has worked the arena or been to the arena,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you can compare it to like a Madison

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<v Speaker 1>Square garden or a big fancy arena, But to me,

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<v Speaker 1>that was my favorite building ever to work in because

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<v Speaker 1>of the people and like you said, the vibe going

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<v Speaker 1>in like they were into it from the minute we

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<v Speaker 1>started to the minute we shut the doors. I mean

0:24:19.080 --> 0:24:21.399
<v Speaker 1>they they would stay till three four in the morning

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<v Speaker 1>to get autographs like they were devoted fans and cool. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>very cool. And you I loved it because, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think legally, I think we can fit like twelve hundred,

0:24:34.240 --> 0:24:36.480
<v Speaker 1>but we used to sell. I always say this, we

0:24:36.480 --> 0:24:39.399
<v Speaker 1>should sell tickets with no guarantee of sight. They were

0:24:39.480 --> 0:24:42.119
<v Speaker 1>like five dollars tickets, so people can walk in and

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<v Speaker 1>just stand behind the bleachers. They just wanted to be

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<v Speaker 1>in the building, you know, and that intimate atmosphere, like

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<v Speaker 1>you can literally look into the crowd and make eye

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<v Speaker 1>contact with somebody and just feel their energy, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. Like it was such an intimate experience,

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<v Speaker 1>and I love that. Without that building, I would love

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<v Speaker 1>to have said the same thing about Center Stage because

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<v Speaker 1>it was a small building with y'all fans. It was

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<v Speaker 1>great when I was there with WCW. They hired models

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<v Speaker 1>and girls to sit in the audience and dress up

0:25:17.240 --> 0:25:20.159
<v Speaker 1>the audience. They gave away tickets. So some of the

0:25:20.240 --> 0:25:22.680
<v Speaker 1>tickets that gave away, I mean, some of it was

0:25:22.720 --> 0:25:25.720
<v Speaker 1>cool with boy scouts, girls scouts, troops and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But then there were also just people that seemed just

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<v Speaker 1>to come in from anywhere to sit down for a

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<v Speaker 1>couple hours and just to be a part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Center stage when you have the right audience, which I

0:25:36.320 --> 0:25:38.440
<v Speaker 1>saw with you guys, because right before I started with

0:25:38.520 --> 0:25:41.640
<v Speaker 1>you guys in two thousand, I actually went to see

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<v Speaker 1>the show y'all were doing at center stage right and

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<v Speaker 1>have been there before with WCW. I sat back and wondered,

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<v Speaker 1>like I almost wondered, what's the vibe? What's the field

0:25:50.040 --> 0:25:52.280
<v Speaker 1>going to be here? And it was the same thing

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<v Speaker 1>as they you said we were rending because y'all fans

0:25:55.560 --> 0:25:58.360
<v Speaker 1>just brought it. I mean, that was the thing it went.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to think was there any building other than

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<v Speaker 1>maybe one in Atlanta was cool because that building had

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<v Speaker 1>a history to it. I had a rustling history and

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<v Speaker 1>I'd actually gone there a bunch as a fan. And

0:26:17.720 --> 0:26:21.400
<v Speaker 1>where was that at in Atlanta? Omney the omni Okay

0:26:21.680 --> 0:26:23.680
<v Speaker 1>I had mentioned the Elks Lodge. Do you remember working

0:26:23.760 --> 0:26:26.560
<v Speaker 1>in Queens? I don't think I ever did the ox

0:26:27.760 --> 0:26:29.560
<v Speaker 1>And I thought you, I thought you did work there

0:26:29.560 --> 0:26:33.359
<v Speaker 1>because we ran there in two thousand. I want to

0:26:33.400 --> 0:26:39.800
<v Speaker 1>say you did, Scottie, I probably did. I just yeah,

0:26:39.840 --> 0:26:42.640
<v Speaker 1>it's the same Jimmy Church shots to Rob and broke

0:26:42.680 --> 0:26:44.359
<v Speaker 1>my nose twice and so I went a lot of

0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:48.200
<v Speaker 1>my uh my bad memory on him. Well let's go away.

0:26:48.280 --> 0:26:51.120
<v Speaker 1>You know, love Rob, but you know I, well, yeah,

0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:54.840
<v Speaker 1>you're not the first to say that the funny thing

0:26:55.040 --> 0:26:57.440
<v Speaker 1>was the first time you and Rob met was about

0:26:57.520 --> 0:27:02.639
<v Speaker 1>ninety three, okay, independence around Georgia and South Carolina, and

0:27:03.640 --> 0:27:06.800
<v Speaker 1>Greg Price was a promoter that actually put us together

0:27:06.920 --> 0:27:12.240
<v Speaker 1>after a ben Masters show in South Georgia and Cordel, Georgia,

0:27:13.000 --> 0:27:15.240
<v Speaker 1>and that was at a skating rink and that place

0:27:15.240 --> 0:27:18.040
<v Speaker 1>had a real good vibe to it, believe or that

0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:20.840
<v Speaker 1>back in the early ninetiest ninety two is my first

0:27:20.920 --> 0:27:24.320
<v Speaker 1>match for every ninety six of ninety two with my

0:27:24.400 --> 0:27:27.560
<v Speaker 1>first matches, So this is around ninety three when I

0:27:27.640 --> 0:27:30.600
<v Speaker 1>started getting branching out, getting booked by other promoters and stuff.

0:27:30.880 --> 0:27:35.200
<v Speaker 1>And the first time at Rob we got along pretty well.

0:27:36.359 --> 0:27:38.680
<v Speaker 1>And we were on a show in a small town

0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:42.720
<v Speaker 1>in Georgia, and I wrestled as myself against Billy Black

0:27:43.440 --> 0:27:46.880
<v Speaker 1>and like the second match, and then I think Doriy

0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:50.200
<v Speaker 1>funk Junr Was the main event. I can't remember who

0:27:50.200 --> 0:27:52.119
<v Speaker 1>he was wrestling, but me and Rob were like the

0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:55.200
<v Speaker 1>semi main. So I wrestled second and then wrestled fourth,

0:27:55.800 --> 0:27:59.400
<v Speaker 1>and I went on and put some like a black

0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:02.240
<v Speaker 1>geyaw like I was just like a great mood of character.

0:28:02.280 --> 0:28:04.840
<v Speaker 1>I put a mask on holdline yards Yea and Rob

0:28:04.960 --> 0:28:08.159
<v Speaker 1>kicked me right in the nose, a little sidekicked. And

0:28:08.640 --> 0:28:10.080
<v Speaker 1>that was the first time he broke it was in

0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:13.320
<v Speaker 1>the mask. I remember his blood on the mask everything.

0:28:14.040 --> 0:28:16.640
<v Speaker 1>And I went to the back and some EMTs came

0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:18.200
<v Speaker 1>in and checked me out because I saw blood poured

0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:20.399
<v Speaker 1>out my face, and Greg got the guys come chick me,

0:28:20.840 --> 0:28:24.200
<v Speaker 1>took the mask off. The guys like, didn't you just wrestle?

0:28:24.520 --> 0:28:26.560
<v Speaker 1>For're sure? A good guy said, yeah, that guy pissed

0:28:26.600 --> 0:28:29.280
<v Speaker 1>me off. That guy with the ponytail, that RBD guy

0:28:29.840 --> 0:28:31.920
<v Speaker 1>pissed me off. So I put this stuff on the

0:28:31.960 --> 0:28:33.920
<v Speaker 1>fight him. You see what he did. So I'm even

0:28:33.960 --> 0:28:36.879
<v Speaker 1>more mad now and then and the mts are like, really,

0:28:38.160 --> 0:28:40.200
<v Speaker 1>So that was like the first time Rob broke my

0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:42.600
<v Speaker 1>nose the first and how many times after did he?

0:28:43.480 --> 0:28:45.480
<v Speaker 1>The next time was in ECW the first time we

0:28:45.560 --> 0:28:49.280
<v Speaker 1>tried the vand terminator in Kansas City. Okay, okay, I

0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:52.000
<v Speaker 1>put my hands up like this, thinking that would be safe,

0:28:52.720 --> 0:28:55.120
<v Speaker 1>and he hid it and instead of going flat my face,

0:28:55.160 --> 0:28:59.600
<v Speaker 1>it went points like that came down on me. Yeah,

0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:04.160
<v Speaker 1>and all I remember is a blackness, then a bright

0:29:04.320 --> 0:29:05.960
<v Speaker 1>light or no, it was a bright light. Then it

0:29:06.040 --> 0:29:10.400
<v Speaker 1>got dark. My eyes. Also, I was red. I climbed out.

0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:12.960
<v Speaker 1>I was crawling down. Here comes Corino and Victory. He

0:29:13.040 --> 0:29:15.280
<v Speaker 1>was supposed to do like an interference thing. I'm just

0:29:15.400 --> 0:29:17.680
<v Speaker 1>crawling past them. I'm like, you guys, go do what

0:29:17.720 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 1>you gotta do. I'm out, no joke. And then the

0:29:21.920 --> 0:29:24.160
<v Speaker 1>next the next taping we did, I think was in

0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:32.240
<v Speaker 1>Poughkeepsie at that center there and I had a black

0:29:32.320 --> 0:29:34.880
<v Speaker 1>guys and everything else, and so what they basically did

0:29:34.920 --> 0:29:36.520
<v Speaker 1>they have the wrestle what me and Karina? They were

0:29:36.640 --> 0:29:40.040
<v Speaker 1>just putting me and him together, and so we went

0:29:40.120 --> 0:29:43.080
<v Speaker 1>up and put the sharpshooters on two guys. I went

0:29:43.120 --> 0:29:45.600
<v Speaker 1>out with tape on my nose and we put it

0:29:45.720 --> 0:29:47.720
<v Speaker 1>over because it was there after the pay per view,

0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:50.880
<v Speaker 1>but it ended up working well TV wise that the

0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:54.880
<v Speaker 1>fans on my face all busted up after Yeah, yeah,

0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:58.840
<v Speaker 1>I broke my nose in Virginia because Sandman I had

0:29:58.880 --> 0:30:01.560
<v Speaker 1>to pull him and I know, I had to grab

0:30:01.640 --> 0:30:03.520
<v Speaker 1>one of their legs and pull them off the top.

0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:05.560
<v Speaker 1>Said man was going to do his flippy flop thing,

0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:09.080
<v Speaker 1>but instead of going through the table, they went backwards

0:30:09.240 --> 0:30:11.320
<v Speaker 1>out of the ring and kicked me in the face

0:30:11.800 --> 0:30:14.120
<v Speaker 1>out and I brew and then I had a spot,

0:30:14.200 --> 0:30:16.720
<v Speaker 1>remember Chili Willie. I was supposed to run in and

0:30:16.840 --> 0:30:19.040
<v Speaker 1>cane him, and then we were supposed to do a

0:30:19.200 --> 0:30:22.600
<v Speaker 1>dance off or something, and I said, we're not dancing,

0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:25.720
<v Speaker 1>and I just kept hitting him and they had to

0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:28.160
<v Speaker 1>stick tampons up my nose, I remember, and I had

0:30:28.200 --> 0:30:30.280
<v Speaker 1>the black eye gimmick. The next day we had to

0:30:30.320 --> 0:30:32.360
<v Speaker 1>go to the arena and here I am with these

0:30:32.440 --> 0:30:35.240
<v Speaker 1>black guys. But they did make up to make it

0:30:35.360 --> 0:30:37.920
<v Speaker 1>look really, I know. The next night, I can't remember.

0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:41.440
<v Speaker 1>I think we were in Wichita and I wanted to

0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:43.960
<v Speaker 1>do something but they were like, nah, no, it's only

0:30:44.040 --> 0:30:47.280
<v Speaker 1>house shows. My face was all swollen, black and blue

0:30:47.360 --> 0:30:49.440
<v Speaker 1>hole nine yards, but it was like okay, at least

0:30:49.440 --> 0:30:51.480
<v Speaker 1>I knew on the pay per view, I went, I

0:30:51.600 --> 0:30:55.080
<v Speaker 1>did this number to protect my face and my brick.

0:30:56.080 --> 0:30:59.600
<v Speaker 1>But he ain't breaking my nose exactly. I thought about it.

0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:02.240
<v Speaker 1>Have broke my nose like that on the pay per

0:31:02.360 --> 0:31:04.280
<v Speaker 1>view and it would have been a bloody mess that

0:31:07.400 --> 0:31:11.920
<v Speaker 1>you know. So he did not make the Elks log show.

0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:16.280
<v Speaker 1>The Elkslodge show was later in the year, so you

0:31:16.400 --> 0:31:18.360
<v Speaker 1>weren't on it. So he's right. He did not wrestle

0:31:18.440 --> 0:31:21.560
<v Speaker 1>in Queen's No No, I just checked the whole entire

0:31:21.680 --> 0:31:24.440
<v Speaker 1>year of two thousand guys were talking the hell was he?

0:31:24.800 --> 0:31:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Where were you? The only thing to think I might

0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:31.640
<v Speaker 1>have missed that because when we did the Hammerstein Ballroom,

0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:38.320
<v Speaker 1>this was another time Rob hurt me. We were I

0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:39.960
<v Speaker 1>think we're a main event or sent my main that

0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:42.960
<v Speaker 1>night and the first like minute two minutes of the match,

0:31:43.960 --> 0:31:45.920
<v Speaker 1>we did his uh. We dropped me in the guard

0:31:45.960 --> 0:31:47.680
<v Speaker 1>rail outside and we jumped on the apron and do

0:31:47.760 --> 0:31:49.920
<v Speaker 1>the leg spot. He dropped me on the guard rail.

0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:53.840
<v Speaker 1>He didn't drop me belly. He dropped me. Ribs bruised

0:31:54.240 --> 0:31:58.320
<v Speaker 1>like or cracked. Actually I think I remember right, one

0:31:58.400 --> 0:32:01.040
<v Speaker 1>or two ribs on my side. And we still went

0:32:01.080 --> 0:32:04.600
<v Speaker 1>another eighteen minutes where everything I did, I picked him up.

0:32:04.640 --> 0:32:07.280
<v Speaker 1>I remember one time I dropped outside the ring first spot,

0:32:07.640 --> 0:32:09.560
<v Speaker 1>so I picked him up, dropped him. I collapsed after

0:32:09.720 --> 0:32:13.320
<v Speaker 1>everything I did, I collapsed because I couldn't breathe move,

0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:15.560
<v Speaker 1>and like I said, I ended about I think I

0:32:15.600 --> 0:32:18.160
<v Speaker 1>had two cracked ribs and a bruised rib and spent

0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:22.600
<v Speaker 1>I think I spent about four hours in the emergency

0:32:22.640 --> 0:32:25.200
<v Speaker 1>room that night in a New York City Emergency Room.

0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:29.600
<v Speaker 1>But the cool thing was, it's like maybe because they

0:32:29.640 --> 0:32:32.840
<v Speaker 1>put me in an ambulance, took me there, and probably

0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:36.680
<v Speaker 1>about thirty minutes afterwards, Justin McCauley came with Rob to

0:32:36.760 --> 0:32:41.000
<v Speaker 1>the show SVD and Rob came in and they spent

0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:45.240
<v Speaker 1>the next two three hours with me. They brought my gear,

0:32:45.360 --> 0:32:47.240
<v Speaker 1>brought me stuff and everything else I can change outup

0:32:47.280 --> 0:32:49.280
<v Speaker 1>on any tube. I couldn't move, and they were doing

0:32:49.320 --> 0:32:51.600
<v Speaker 1>all cat scans all this stuff on me because we

0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:53.600
<v Speaker 1>flying out the next day. Didn't want me to get

0:32:53.600 --> 0:32:56.600
<v Speaker 1>on a plane and my liver rupture sure or whatever

0:32:56.840 --> 0:32:58.880
<v Speaker 1>because I bruise was I think the bruise was on

0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:02.280
<v Speaker 1>my left side, but yeah, that was something that I think.

0:33:02.440 --> 0:33:05.240
<v Speaker 1>And then after that, for about the next three four,

0:33:05.320 --> 0:33:07.960
<v Speaker 1>maybe five weeks, I couldn't work. I couldn't work because

0:33:08.000 --> 0:33:10.320
<v Speaker 1>my ribs are bad. So you missed it a hundred

0:33:10.320 --> 0:33:13.560
<v Speaker 1>percent right on the timeline. August twenty six, two thousand,

0:33:13.640 --> 0:33:17.480
<v Speaker 1>Hammerstein Ballroom, Rob Van Damn, Scottie Anton, and it aired

0:33:17.520 --> 0:33:20.360
<v Speaker 1>on September ninth, So that leads exactly to why he

0:33:20.600 --> 0:33:23.880
<v Speaker 1>missed the Okay, well, hey, that's great, that's what he

0:33:24.000 --> 0:33:26.520
<v Speaker 1>was still with us. I was like, why weren't you

0:33:26.640 --> 0:33:28.680
<v Speaker 1>at the show? But I was there. I think I

0:33:28.720 --> 0:33:34.040
<v Speaker 1>remember Paul flew me into a couple of shows even

0:33:34.080 --> 0:33:38.240
<v Speaker 1>though I couldn't work do either some running stuff. I

0:33:38.280 --> 0:33:40.040
<v Speaker 1>couldn't do a match, but I could do some things.

0:33:40.200 --> 0:33:42.640
<v Speaker 1>I could be seeing but not good. I could actually

0:33:42.640 --> 0:33:44.640
<v Speaker 1>do anything. Yeah, I could do the clap. You could

0:33:44.640 --> 0:33:46.680
<v Speaker 1>do the clap, you know, I could give I could

0:33:46.760 --> 0:33:50.200
<v Speaker 1>give the clap as we would say back then, not

0:33:50.400 --> 0:33:52.480
<v Speaker 1>do the clap, but I would give it. Yes, I

0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:54.680
<v Speaker 1>want to backtrack a minute. So we were talking about

0:33:54.720 --> 0:33:57.400
<v Speaker 1>the first visit when you came as just a spectator.

0:33:57.480 --> 0:33:59.720
<v Speaker 1>You were friends with Robin and damn you met everybody

0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:02.360
<v Speaker 1>at the Vibe school. Blah blah blah blah blah. You

0:34:02.600 --> 0:34:06.320
<v Speaker 1>were doing great in WCW. At this point you said

0:34:06.360 --> 0:34:11.480
<v Speaker 1>you were tag champs. Right, that's a blast. Okay, did

0:34:11.560 --> 0:34:13.759
<v Speaker 1>you did you look around and say this may be

0:34:14.000 --> 0:34:17.680
<v Speaker 1>somewhere in the future, I would wouldn't mind working at

0:34:17.960 --> 0:34:22.319
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm sure your pay was better for mister

0:34:22.440 --> 0:34:25.839
<v Speaker 1>Turner than it was for mister Here's a little fact

0:34:25.920 --> 0:34:29.000
<v Speaker 1>for you so you won't think that. When they brought

0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:32.440
<v Speaker 1>me in, remember I was in Memphis making I guarantee

0:34:32.480 --> 0:34:36.759
<v Speaker 1>forty bucks a night, working six nights a week. But

0:34:36.880 --> 0:34:39.440
<v Speaker 1>we always whether if you were like opening match in

0:34:39.520 --> 0:34:41.640
<v Speaker 1>the car, you might've got like you got if the

0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:44.320
<v Speaker 1>houses were good, you got bonus money in Memphis. Okay,

0:34:44.440 --> 0:34:47.000
<v Speaker 1>So about two weeks later, as my first check came in,

0:34:47.160 --> 0:34:49.880
<v Speaker 1>and I was for the first month, I was like

0:34:50.000 --> 0:34:52.239
<v Speaker 1>first or second match and sit fans that know who

0:34:52.280 --> 0:34:54.359
<v Speaker 1>I was type of thing because I wasn't some major

0:34:54.440 --> 0:35:00.000
<v Speaker 1>guy coming in. And so when I went from Memphis

0:35:00.280 --> 0:35:03.640
<v Speaker 1>to WCW, Jenny Ingle had been calling me up a

0:35:03.640 --> 0:35:05.840
<v Speaker 1>couple of times. I actually put to Kevin Sullivan on

0:35:05.880 --> 0:35:08.520
<v Speaker 1>the phone. I said, Kevin, you realize I'm here in

0:35:08.600 --> 0:35:14.040
<v Speaker 1>Memphis making no money, starving. What kind of guarantee can

0:35:14.080 --> 0:35:17.640
<v Speaker 1>I get to come in WCW. And he basically said,

0:35:17.640 --> 0:35:20.520
<v Speaker 1>I'll get back with you next week. Everything was a

0:35:20.600 --> 0:35:22.319
<v Speaker 1>week week week, I'll get back with you next week,

0:35:22.440 --> 0:35:24.920
<v Speaker 1>get back to you next week. On everything was happening,

0:35:25.719 --> 0:35:27.319
<v Speaker 1>and he finally called me up, or was Jane who

0:35:27.320 --> 0:35:30.920
<v Speaker 1>called me up in Louisville and said, well, we can

0:35:30.960 --> 0:35:32.960
<v Speaker 1>get you a guarantee of six hundred bucks a week

0:35:35.160 --> 0:35:40.200
<v Speaker 1>under a ninety day trial basis being Marcus's tag team partner. Like, well,

0:35:40.239 --> 0:35:42.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm making two hundred bucks a week right now, plus

0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:47.480
<v Speaker 1>a little extra three hundred bucks maybe every couple of weeks,

0:35:47.640 --> 0:35:50.359
<v Speaker 1>you know type thing. So six hundred bucks of weeks

0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:52.719
<v Speaker 1>is a lot better than making two hundred and I'll

0:35:52.760 --> 0:35:55.719
<v Speaker 1>be with WCW. You never know what happens. So for

0:35:55.840 --> 0:36:00.399
<v Speaker 1>the first from August until December, I was making hundred

0:36:00.440 --> 0:36:04.359
<v Speaker 1>bucks a week, okay, uh as one after World Tag

0:36:04.440 --> 0:36:08.640
<v Speaker 1>Team Champions, making every Nitro shots, making a bunch of

0:36:08.719 --> 0:36:10.879
<v Speaker 1>house shows now because we were the World Tack Team

0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:16.919
<v Speaker 1>Champions and but and I'm making nothing nothing, So don't

0:36:17.000 --> 0:36:20.719
<v Speaker 1>say the money was different. Money became different. But for

0:36:20.840 --> 0:36:24.680
<v Speaker 1>the first four months I wasn't making squat and that

0:36:24.800 --> 0:36:29.880
<v Speaker 1>actually went until March of ninety six before Bisha finally

0:36:29.920 --> 0:36:33.000
<v Speaker 1>gave me a raise, wow, which went to fifty grand

0:36:33.040 --> 0:36:38.200
<v Speaker 1>a year. That my my in ninety six. Yeah and me,

0:36:38.280 --> 0:36:41.279
<v Speaker 1>I had me and Marcus on every Nitro, every house

0:36:41.320 --> 0:36:43.640
<v Speaker 1>show because we were the only babyface taxing the ad

0:36:44.320 --> 0:36:48.759
<v Speaker 1>until Seiners came in and rewards came in. Nasty boys,

0:36:48.800 --> 0:36:52.240
<v Speaker 1>you kind of work, He'll face that type thing with everybody,

0:36:52.360 --> 0:36:54.239
<v Speaker 1>but uh, we were the only good guys they had,

0:36:54.320 --> 0:36:56.400
<v Speaker 1>so they had on every house show with Heat or

0:36:56.480 --> 0:37:00.520
<v Speaker 1>with h Dick Slator Buck house Buck, those guys. So

0:37:00.560 --> 0:37:03.719
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't making any money for about the first year

0:37:03.719 --> 0:37:05.719
<v Speaker 1>and a half I was with WCW, and then I

0:37:05.840 --> 0:37:08.399
<v Speaker 1>finally got a nice six figure deal for the last

0:37:08.440 --> 0:37:12.279
<v Speaker 1>three years I was there. Okay, well you got something. Yeah,

0:37:12.320 --> 0:37:14.840
<v Speaker 1>it was nice. Remember we did a toured Germany in

0:37:14.920 --> 0:37:19.640
<v Speaker 1>ninety six, and I was basically living off either Bagwell

0:37:19.760 --> 0:37:22.839
<v Speaker 1>or Lex with their credit cards, being able to eat

0:37:22.880 --> 0:37:26.080
<v Speaker 1>because again I was even at that time making fifty

0:37:26.160 --> 0:37:28.759
<v Speaker 1>grand a year. When you're on the road have to

0:37:29.040 --> 0:37:31.200
<v Speaker 1>half the year half the time, you're basically making twenty

0:37:31.239 --> 0:37:33.600
<v Speaker 1>five hundred bucks, you know, or twenty five grand a

0:37:33.719 --> 0:37:37.080
<v Speaker 1>year home expenses and road expenses. I was going to say,

0:37:37.120 --> 0:37:40.040
<v Speaker 1>did did they pay for your hotel and airfare at

0:37:40.120 --> 0:37:46.120
<v Speaker 1>least air? Yes? Hotel? No? Ah terrible which could which

0:37:46.200 --> 0:37:50.000
<v Speaker 1>basically well, the cool thing was being Marcus's partner the

0:37:50.080 --> 0:37:53.520
<v Speaker 1>first night tro Remember Lex came in on that first

0:37:53.600 --> 0:37:56.800
<v Speaker 1>night tro in Minneapolis. He was a surprise guy that

0:37:56.920 --> 0:38:00.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of came in. Him and Sting were friends and

0:38:00.840 --> 0:38:04.120
<v Speaker 1>Marcus and Sting were friends. So by OUs mosis, I

0:38:04.239 --> 0:38:07.040
<v Speaker 1>became friends with Alex and Sting and was traveling with

0:38:07.200 --> 0:38:10.719
<v Speaker 1>Alexis Sting. So they both had the Lincoln town Car,

0:38:12.080 --> 0:38:14.759
<v Speaker 1>so I was a driver in the car the whole time.

0:38:15.040 --> 0:38:17.120
<v Speaker 1>I messed up one to this Sting off if through

0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:20.239
<v Speaker 1>play golf one day and didn't drive. We were in

0:38:20.400 --> 0:38:23.799
<v Speaker 1>Orlando and we had night join Tampa and didn't drive.

0:38:24.600 --> 0:38:26.480
<v Speaker 1>And it was the first like real road trip that

0:38:26.560 --> 0:38:34.399
<v Speaker 1>I was with those guys. And long story short, Mark

0:38:34.480 --> 0:38:36.879
<v Speaker 1>got the mark, me both in the back seat. Let's

0:38:36.920 --> 0:38:42.080
<v Speaker 1>got in the passenger's seat, and Sting drove. Yeah, that

0:38:42.239 --> 0:38:44.359
<v Speaker 1>face is the face I made when arn Anderson came

0:38:44.440 --> 0:38:46.920
<v Speaker 1>up to me and ringed me cust me out. As

0:38:46.920 --> 0:38:50.160
<v Speaker 1>soon as we got the building, Sting stopped talking. Because

0:38:50.200 --> 0:38:54.160
<v Speaker 1>we went from Orlando to Tampa. My thought was, maybe

0:38:55.160 --> 0:38:57.400
<v Speaker 1>they know how to get there, so I'll just let

0:38:57.480 --> 0:38:59.120
<v Speaker 1>them drive. It's a short trip. Or maybe they're not

0:38:59.120 --> 0:39:03.040
<v Speaker 1>how to get there quick to the building. All this stuff. Okay, Well,

0:39:03.200 --> 0:39:07.719
<v Speaker 1>I know Sting was livid. He was pissed. Say get

0:39:07.800 --> 0:39:10.560
<v Speaker 1>in the front. He didn't say work, he just got in.

0:39:10.760 --> 0:39:15.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't again, I don't know why He didn't say, Riggs,

0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:18.640
<v Speaker 1>you're driving, get up here. He just got in. I

0:39:18.719 --> 0:39:21.560
<v Speaker 1>don't know why, but for some reason he just let

0:39:21.680 --> 0:39:23.520
<v Speaker 1>things happen the way that happened. We got to the

0:39:23.560 --> 0:39:29.440
<v Speaker 1>building and Sting disappeared whenever and I got pulled by

0:39:29.560 --> 0:39:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Arn Anderson quickly to the office. Nail, well, wasn't the office,

0:39:34.600 --> 0:39:36.920
<v Speaker 1>it was it was Arn. He didn't go to the office.

0:39:36.960 --> 0:39:39.920
<v Speaker 1>He was. Arn was like Sting's wrong. I guess he

0:39:40.280 --> 0:39:43.120
<v Speaker 1>saw Sting was mad or wasn't really talking. Kind of

0:39:43.120 --> 0:39:45.319
<v Speaker 1>asked was and from what I know is he said,

0:39:45.360 --> 0:39:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Riggs didn't drive, And a little pissed, Arne pulled me aside,

0:39:48.920 --> 0:39:51.000
<v Speaker 1>said do you know who you're traveling with? These guys

0:39:51.080 --> 0:39:54.040
<v Speaker 1>are the top guys with the company, Sting and Luger,

0:39:54.600 --> 0:39:58.040
<v Speaker 1>biggest teams in the business, and you are riding with them.

0:39:58.640 --> 0:40:01.880
<v Speaker 1>They embraced you. They and there was a bunch of

0:40:02.080 --> 0:40:05.279
<v Speaker 1>f bombs. It's a bunch of you know, every old

0:40:05.320 --> 0:40:08.200
<v Speaker 1>curse words that could be coming at me. But basically

0:40:08.400 --> 0:40:11.320
<v Speaker 1>that night, when the show ended, I had got in

0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:13.759
<v Speaker 1>the keys, pulled the car up to the back of

0:40:13.840 --> 0:40:16.200
<v Speaker 1>the building, to the back doors. When they opened the door,

0:40:16.200 --> 0:40:18.000
<v Speaker 1>and I would already put their bags in the car.

0:40:19.400 --> 0:40:23.719
<v Speaker 1>I was in there. Car started, doors open. We get

0:40:23.800 --> 0:40:25.759
<v Speaker 1>in and the nasty boys want us to go to

0:40:25.800 --> 0:40:30.400
<v Speaker 1>a piano bar for after, you know, for just drinks,

0:40:30.560 --> 0:40:33.360
<v Speaker 1>socializes in whatever after the show. We're in Tampa, their hometown,

0:40:33.440 --> 0:40:36.240
<v Speaker 1>their their home. And to make this long story short,

0:40:36.360 --> 0:40:38.359
<v Speaker 1>we get there. We're driving, we can't find the thing,

0:40:40.120 --> 0:40:41.960
<v Speaker 1>and we had this little thing going on, like from

0:40:42.000 --> 0:40:44.840
<v Speaker 1>playing golf and stuff together. It was like, it's a zany,

0:40:45.000 --> 0:40:48.720
<v Speaker 1>it's a zippy. It's wild and wacky. It's a little crazy,

0:40:49.480 --> 0:40:51.759
<v Speaker 1>all these little things that we've seeing each other when

0:40:51.800 --> 0:40:55.920
<v Speaker 1>something got silly and there, I think Lex with this

0:40:56.000 --> 0:41:01.120
<v Speaker 1>is getting zany. Marcus, No, it's zippy. This is wild

0:41:03.080 --> 0:41:07.920
<v Speaker 1>there and went, nah, this is just stupid and staying

0:41:08.000 --> 0:41:11.440
<v Speaker 1>to set out this belly laugh, just guttural laugh, and

0:41:11.560 --> 0:41:13.840
<v Speaker 1>he went, I was so mad at you before, but

0:41:13.960 --> 0:41:18.200
<v Speaker 1>that right there was so genuine, so real that it

0:41:18.360 --> 0:41:20.239
<v Speaker 1>wasn't even our game. It was just you right now.

0:41:20.480 --> 0:41:24.080
<v Speaker 1>So we can't play it. Oh, it's forgiven. We're all good.

0:41:24.280 --> 0:41:27.200
<v Speaker 1>So it only lasted an evening. The heat it lasted

0:41:27.239 --> 0:41:32.200
<v Speaker 1>a couple hours. Yeah, that is nothing. You didn't have

0:41:32.280 --> 0:41:35.080
<v Speaker 1>to go to a wrestler quarter or anything over. We

0:41:35.120 --> 0:41:38.160
<v Speaker 1>didn't have Russell's Court. No, we didn't have an undertaker

0:41:38.200 --> 0:41:41.279
<v Speaker 1>who ruled the roost. We just see w CW at

0:41:41.280 --> 0:41:44.960
<v Speaker 1>the time was very, very cliquish. It wasn't like a team.

0:41:45.360 --> 0:41:48.360
<v Speaker 1>It was like you had you know, especially after nightro

0:41:48.600 --> 0:41:52.080
<v Speaker 1>started and when the nWo guys came in with Nash

0:41:52.160 --> 0:41:55.359
<v Speaker 1>and Haul, those guys they had their plays. Hogan had

0:41:55.400 --> 0:41:58.759
<v Speaker 1>his place, singing legs, kind of dressed with everybody, and

0:41:58.880 --> 0:42:02.239
<v Speaker 1>you had to you know, everything was still very click

0:42:02.280 --> 0:42:04.640
<v Speaker 1>a shad. Me, Marcus and Lex were like a little group.

0:42:05.520 --> 0:42:10.200
<v Speaker 1>Alex right work traveled with us, Norton Macho when he

0:42:10.280 --> 0:42:11.840
<v Speaker 1>came in to ride with us. You know, we'd all

0:42:11.960 --> 0:42:14.160
<v Speaker 1>try to carry ran together, but there were other groups

0:42:14.320 --> 0:42:16.240
<v Speaker 1>just kind of went their way and they carry ran together.

0:42:16.560 --> 0:42:18.960
<v Speaker 1>It was just friends being friends. But you know, I

0:42:19.200 --> 0:42:21.360
<v Speaker 1>was one of the lucky ones in one sense, I

0:42:21.520 --> 0:42:23.279
<v Speaker 1>was making no money for the first year and a

0:42:23.280 --> 0:42:26.200
<v Speaker 1>half I was there right and the first time we

0:42:26.320 --> 0:42:29.239
<v Speaker 1>did the Orlando tapings, me and Market stayed at the

0:42:29.960 --> 0:42:33.439
<v Speaker 1>I think it was a day's in or something where

0:42:33.440 --> 0:42:35.239
<v Speaker 1>we could stay get a room. The boys had a

0:42:35.320 --> 0:42:38.439
<v Speaker 1>room for twenty five bucks a night, you know, twelve

0:42:38.480 --> 0:42:43.320
<v Speaker 1>to fifty apiece, you know, not bad. Last came to

0:42:43.360 --> 0:42:46.120
<v Speaker 1>pick us up the first night for our first morning

0:42:46.200 --> 0:42:48.680
<v Speaker 1>to go work out and then go to the TV

0:42:48.760 --> 0:42:51.759
<v Speaker 1>tapings and stuff. He walked in, looked at our room

0:42:51.840 --> 0:42:56.480
<v Speaker 1>and said, you guys are never staying there again. We're like, okay.

0:42:56.920 --> 0:42:59.719
<v Speaker 1>So the very next time we went there, three months later,

0:42:59.719 --> 0:43:02.640
<v Speaker 1>we did every three months or two weeks at time. Uh,

0:43:02.800 --> 0:43:05.520
<v Speaker 1>let's got a condo, a three bedroom condo on the

0:43:05.560 --> 0:43:09.560
<v Speaker 1>golf course that we played with that Marriott. Sting stayed

0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:14.640
<v Speaker 1>at the Marriotts at the big the big ocean front

0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:17.040
<v Speaker 1>of where. But when he said the big main, the

0:43:17.120 --> 0:43:19.839
<v Speaker 1>main place, let's got its a condo to stay at

0:43:20.520 --> 0:43:22.800
<v Speaker 1>and he flipped the bill, all I had to do

0:43:22.960 --> 0:43:26.680
<v Speaker 1>was drive. How nice and we played golf together. But

0:43:26.880 --> 0:43:29.640
<v Speaker 1>so well, your ass never got in the back seat

0:43:29.680 --> 0:43:33.239
<v Speaker 1>again after that, because yeah, that's what I've never never

0:43:33.760 --> 0:43:36.480
<v Speaker 1>even the time I drive in Yakoba, Washington and a

0:43:36.640 --> 0:43:39.160
<v Speaker 1>uh a house show a travel was staying. I was

0:43:39.239 --> 0:43:41.880
<v Speaker 1>driving the car then, and I mean so we went

0:43:41.920 --> 0:43:46.520
<v Speaker 1>to the World Card place, I was Sting got keys,

0:43:46.560 --> 0:43:50.160
<v Speaker 1>I took keys. I was like, uh, and this was

0:43:50.239 --> 0:43:54.000
<v Speaker 1>like in ninety seven, I was still driving even years later,

0:43:54.120 --> 0:43:57.319
<v Speaker 1>even when he wasn't driving, like yeah, wow, never went

0:43:57.400 --> 0:44:00.520
<v Speaker 1>through that again. So so you know you had you

0:44:00.600 --> 0:44:04.560
<v Speaker 1>had a good career in w CW Right. It's a

0:44:04.600 --> 0:44:08.640
<v Speaker 1>good run. Yeah, sure, but their run comes to an

0:44:08.760 --> 0:44:11.640
<v Speaker 1>end like all of ours do. And what what do

0:44:11.719 --> 0:44:13.400
<v Speaker 1>you do? Do you pick up the phone? Do you

0:44:13.600 --> 0:44:17.279
<v Speaker 1>call Rob and say, Hey, do you think I can

0:44:17.360 --> 0:44:20.359
<v Speaker 1>come down to E C dub and try and get

0:44:20.400 --> 0:44:23.160
<v Speaker 1>a spot? Do you call paul like how how did

0:44:23.239 --> 0:44:25.960
<v Speaker 1>you end up with us? When you did? For those

0:44:26.000 --> 0:44:30.399
<v Speaker 1>who don't know, I'm trying to remember I was living

0:44:30.440 --> 0:44:34.399
<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta. Mm hmmm, And I think I remember either

0:44:34.600 --> 0:44:36.920
<v Speaker 1>I called Rob or Rob called me and said, hey,

0:44:36.960 --> 0:44:40.000
<v Speaker 1>we're in you know, we're in Atlanta. You want to

0:44:40.040 --> 0:44:42.600
<v Speaker 1>come to the show, or you want to call him

0:44:42.680 --> 0:44:44.120
<v Speaker 1>day and you know kind of comes to the show.

0:44:44.520 --> 0:44:47.279
<v Speaker 1>I never remember. I never asked, hey, Rob, do you

0:44:47.400 --> 0:44:49.960
<v Speaker 1>think you can talk to Paulie about hiring me? All

0:44:50.000 --> 0:44:52.319
<v Speaker 1>I remember is going to the show, watching the show.

0:44:53.360 --> 0:44:55.640
<v Speaker 1>I think Eric Wattson just started with you and a

0:44:55.680 --> 0:44:58.520
<v Speaker 1>couple other WW guys. I've been let go that we're

0:44:58.520 --> 0:45:01.120
<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta. Were either getting try out matches looking whatever.

0:45:02.280 --> 0:45:07.360
<v Speaker 1>I can either remember Rob saying something to Tommy or

0:45:07.440 --> 0:45:11.120
<v Speaker 1>Tommy saying something to Rob with Scott Steele, and I

0:45:11.200 --> 0:45:13.120
<v Speaker 1>can remember Tommy came up to me and said, hey,

0:45:14.719 --> 0:45:16.480
<v Speaker 1>what's going on with you in w CW till I

0:45:16.600 --> 0:45:19.000
<v Speaker 1>was done? Blah blah blah, And I said, I got

0:45:19.120 --> 0:45:25.719
<v Speaker 1>about six weeks of paychecks coming in. Still he goes, well,

0:45:25.760 --> 0:45:27.320
<v Speaker 1>when will that end? I said, I think it's like

0:45:27.400 --> 0:45:30.560
<v Speaker 1>in February, goes you want to start? Then said do what?

0:45:32.000 --> 0:45:35.160
<v Speaker 1>He goes, you want to start with us? He said, yeah,

0:45:35.400 --> 0:45:37.279
<v Speaker 1>I'd love to. I mean, it was one of those

0:45:37.320 --> 0:45:40.680
<v Speaker 1>things where it was like nobody really asked. Tommy just said,

0:45:40.719 --> 0:45:44.160
<v Speaker 1>you want to start damn right place, right time. That's

0:45:44.200 --> 0:45:46.920
<v Speaker 1>what it was. I mean, it was really And I

0:45:47.040 --> 0:45:50.080
<v Speaker 1>think it was just because that that first time I

0:45:50.160 --> 0:45:54.080
<v Speaker 1>met everybody, I wasn't an ass, I didn't shot as,

0:45:54.360 --> 0:45:56.600
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't a jerk, I wasn't an idiot. I was

0:45:56.719 --> 0:45:59.960
<v Speaker 1>pretty respectful, and I just had always carried that reputation

0:46:00.040 --> 0:46:03.640
<v Speaker 1>when I get it everybody. And I think that's what

0:46:03.840 --> 0:46:05.560
<v Speaker 1>Tommy wanted to an address room. He wanted, you know,

0:46:05.640 --> 0:46:10.000
<v Speaker 1>he knew I could work and I think he thought

0:46:10.120 --> 0:46:14.080
<v Speaker 1>that the American male thing especially would get the ECW

0:46:14.280 --> 0:46:18.359
<v Speaker 1>fans riled up, and it did. I remember the first

0:46:18.400 --> 0:46:20.760
<v Speaker 1>time I carried rob out on my shoulders at the arena.

0:46:21.760 --> 0:46:25.360
<v Speaker 1>They were they were American mail. You guys, suck but

0:46:25.640 --> 0:46:30.840
<v Speaker 1>back your hair riggs. How did the clap come about? Wow?

0:46:33.680 --> 0:46:36.840
<v Speaker 1>I remember where we were because I loved the I

0:46:37.040 --> 0:46:40.000
<v Speaker 1>love that gimmick that popped me every time, Like I

0:46:40.040 --> 0:46:43.320
<v Speaker 1>thought that was so fucking funny. Now the song that

0:46:43.719 --> 0:46:48.200
<v Speaker 1>Harry Slash made for me that popped me, Okay, because

0:46:48.200 --> 0:46:50.719
<v Speaker 1>they actually because PAULI actually got him to create an

0:46:50.760 --> 0:46:54.799
<v Speaker 1>actual song for me, which popped me. Because I didn't

0:46:54.840 --> 0:46:57.719
<v Speaker 1>know what I was going to use. I remember at

0:46:57.800 --> 0:47:00.560
<v Speaker 1>the township in Columbia, South Carolina. I didn't know what

0:47:00.719 --> 0:47:02.440
<v Speaker 1>ring music I was gonna use. I was working with

0:47:02.520 --> 0:47:07.040
<v Speaker 1>somebody and a reno writ me with the Ice Ice

0:47:07.160 --> 0:47:10.239
<v Speaker 1>Baby and then the ice song to do the crap

0:47:10.320 --> 0:47:13.680
<v Speaker 1>too that dun dun, dun, dun dun, and I came

0:47:13.760 --> 0:47:17.440
<v Speaker 1>out to that, and I remember is I was like,

0:47:17.800 --> 0:47:19.160
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know what I was coming out to, but

0:47:19.200 --> 0:47:21.960
<v Speaker 1>that's what I came out to. But to answer your question,

0:47:22.080 --> 0:47:25.520
<v Speaker 1>I remember what was it. I can't remember zactly where

0:47:25.520 --> 0:47:28.160
<v Speaker 1>it was, but paul E came to me and sat

0:47:28.239 --> 0:47:30.800
<v Speaker 1>me down, and he's the only booker to ever doce

0:47:30.880 --> 0:47:33.320
<v Speaker 1>with me. He sat me down and said, Okay, this

0:47:33.400 --> 0:47:34.320
<v Speaker 1>is what I kind of want to do with it.

0:47:34.400 --> 0:47:36.239
<v Speaker 1>We're bringing in your Rob's best friend. It might have

0:47:36.280 --> 0:47:38.560
<v Speaker 1>been at the arena that first time I was there

0:47:39.440 --> 0:47:42.000
<v Speaker 1>carrying Rob on the shoulders. He said, what I want

0:47:42.040 --> 0:47:43.959
<v Speaker 1>to do is bring you out is Rob's best friend.

0:47:44.840 --> 0:47:47.919
<v Speaker 1>Then I'm going to turn you on. Rob. Some people

0:47:48.000 --> 0:47:50.200
<v Speaker 1>may see it coming, but it'll be one of those

0:47:50.280 --> 0:47:53.560
<v Speaker 1>things where we can get you to be a heel

0:47:53.600 --> 0:47:55.279
<v Speaker 1>because I know you can work well, Rob, I know

0:47:55.360 --> 0:47:58.320
<v Speaker 1>you worked well before, and to play out the American

0:47:58.360 --> 0:48:00.920
<v Speaker 1>Mails because I know you can work. But your character

0:48:01.080 --> 0:48:02.880
<v Speaker 1>is kind of weak. And that was one thing. I

0:48:03.000 --> 0:48:05.360
<v Speaker 1>didn't really have a persona. I didn't have a character

0:48:05.680 --> 0:48:07.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of like you were a Queen of extreme. I

0:48:07.480 --> 0:48:09.480
<v Speaker 1>didn't have that. Rob was a whole effing show and

0:48:09.560 --> 0:48:11.960
<v Speaker 1>everything else. I never really developed that. In my time.

0:48:12.040 --> 0:48:15.480
<v Speaker 1>I developed great ring work. But in that time, even

0:48:15.520 --> 0:48:17.520
<v Speaker 1>the good time I had in w CW, I was

0:48:17.560 --> 0:48:20.600
<v Speaker 1>American Mail fluck and then the guy with the mirror,

0:48:20.960 --> 0:48:23.200
<v Speaker 1>which I hated, but it was one of those things

0:48:23.239 --> 0:48:25.360
<v Speaker 1>that I wanted to keep the eye patch and be

0:48:25.440 --> 0:48:28.919
<v Speaker 1>a snake Clifkin type thing like the iPad. I wanted

0:48:28.920 --> 0:48:32.560
<v Speaker 1>to keep that. Terry Taylor went, nah, I want you to,

0:48:32.760 --> 0:48:34.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, lose eye patch. We're gonna make you a

0:48:34.600 --> 0:48:36.160
<v Speaker 1>good We're gonna make you back to a pretty boy

0:48:36.160 --> 0:48:39.000
<v Speaker 1>and make you a bad guy from the rooster. Okay,

0:48:39.160 --> 0:48:43.920
<v Speaker 1>thanks Terry. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I had he with him

0:48:44.000 --> 0:48:47.480
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of times in w CW, but other stories

0:48:47.480 --> 0:48:49.200
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you a little bit maybe, but Paul Ye

0:48:49.360 --> 0:48:52.279
<v Speaker 1>basically sat down. So we're gonna do this. We're gonna

0:48:52.320 --> 0:48:54.920
<v Speaker 1>turn your rub and what I want to do is

0:48:56.200 --> 0:48:59.840
<v Speaker 1>get the clap going. That was one thing that separated

0:49:00.120 --> 0:49:02.680
<v Speaker 1>you and Marcus was a clap and we could say

0:49:02.719 --> 0:49:06.120
<v Speaker 1>that you're giving the fans the clap, and I went,

0:49:06.600 --> 0:49:08.480
<v Speaker 1>I had almost the same look with Jimmy Hart and

0:49:08.480 --> 0:49:13.840
<v Speaker 1>the ring music. I was kind of like, going, clap

0:49:14.719 --> 0:49:18.680
<v Speaker 1>its brilliant though, but after but my first thought was

0:49:18.880 --> 0:49:23.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, the st D thing, and then I started thinking,

0:49:23.400 --> 0:49:27.239
<v Speaker 1>but my mentality was w c W still in a

0:49:27.360 --> 0:49:31.239
<v Speaker 1>cent of like character, I went, that's really probably gonna

0:49:31.280 --> 0:49:35.440
<v Speaker 1>get some good steam here. And I went because I

0:49:35.480 --> 0:49:37.920
<v Speaker 1>because I started again learning of the fancy. I remember

0:49:38.160 --> 0:49:40.239
<v Speaker 1>that that that first time you were around the fans,

0:49:40.280 --> 0:49:42.839
<v Speaker 1>you feel the energy they give you. When you actually

0:49:42.880 --> 0:49:45.400
<v Speaker 1>getting the ring in front of them, you really feel

0:49:45.719 --> 0:49:48.520
<v Speaker 1>the energy that they have. Sure, just being in the

0:49:48.600 --> 0:49:51.400
<v Speaker 1>arenas as a fan, I saw it, but to feel

0:49:51.440 --> 0:49:54.359
<v Speaker 1>it when I carried Rob out again. The fans will

0:49:54.360 --> 0:49:57.880
<v Speaker 1>giving me the old American males. Y'all suck, but forgot

0:49:57.960 --> 0:50:02.160
<v Speaker 1>your hair rigs. This kind of thing I can, yeah, exactly,

0:50:02.520 --> 0:50:04.000
<v Speaker 1>that was the thing I kept here. I'm glad you

0:50:04.120 --> 0:50:08.359
<v Speaker 1>hear da da dah and uh. But then you know, Paul,

0:50:08.400 --> 0:50:10.680
<v Speaker 1>he was liking. He goes, I know your work let

0:50:10.680 --> 0:50:12.200
<v Speaker 1>you over, but I know we would give you the

0:50:12.320 --> 0:50:17.160
<v Speaker 1>clap that would really get over. And then we're going

0:50:17.239 --> 0:50:18.600
<v Speaker 1>to do this and this will we maybe put you

0:50:18.680 --> 0:50:21.279
<v Speaker 1>a karina. We'll have your heel do this, And he

0:50:21.360 --> 0:50:24.160
<v Speaker 1>actually laid out about a six month plan of what

0:50:24.320 --> 0:50:27.120
<v Speaker 1>could happen and how the clap came about and everything.

0:50:27.160 --> 0:50:29.560
<v Speaker 1>You'd be so egotistical with it, he goes, and that

0:50:29.640 --> 0:50:32.200
<v Speaker 1>will give you something that fans will either love or hate,

0:50:32.480 --> 0:50:34.399
<v Speaker 1>and they'll be back and forth. You can maybe turn

0:50:34.480 --> 0:50:37.279
<v Speaker 1>your baby face. Can you imagine, like with al Stow

0:50:37.320 --> 0:50:39.200
<v Speaker 1>with the head when that became baby faced, all the

0:50:39.320 --> 0:50:41.040
<v Speaker 1>mac and heads are out there, He goes, can you

0:50:41.080 --> 0:50:43.640
<v Speaker 1>imagine all the e W when you get them doing this?

0:50:44.360 --> 0:50:49.359
<v Speaker 1>That'd be insane? Didn't that make you feel good? Though?

0:50:49.440 --> 0:50:52.320
<v Speaker 1>Because he here you are, your first night in and

0:50:52.520 --> 0:50:56.759
<v Speaker 1>he's laying out a six month plan. Yeah. He was

0:50:56.800 --> 0:51:00.600
<v Speaker 1>the first promoter, booker, yeah, boss, whatever you want to

0:51:00.600 --> 0:51:02.520
<v Speaker 1>call them, who actually sat down and said just what

0:51:02.600 --> 0:51:04.760
<v Speaker 1>we're going to do. Because like when me and Marcus

0:51:04.840 --> 0:51:08.560
<v Speaker 1>were became the tag champs, they put us together. Our

0:51:08.600 --> 0:51:12.439
<v Speaker 1>first match was gets Regal and eating and they made

0:51:12.440 --> 0:51:15.640
<v Speaker 1>me look like a tenure veteran. Tag match was great.

0:51:15.920 --> 0:51:19.759
<v Speaker 1>They were so they were so professional, made me look good.

0:51:19.840 --> 0:51:22.120
<v Speaker 1>Of course I could do it anything they asked me

0:51:22.239 --> 0:51:25.640
<v Speaker 1>to do. And then it was the and that was

0:51:25.760 --> 0:51:29.960
<v Speaker 1>like August, the last week of August when we did

0:51:30.000 --> 0:51:33.440
<v Speaker 1>those tapings there, we did like two matches. Then we

0:51:33.520 --> 0:51:36.440
<v Speaker 1>did a video with us on horseback that never got used.

0:51:38.040 --> 0:51:40.560
<v Speaker 1>Then we did a couple of other things. We got

0:51:40.600 --> 0:51:43.759
<v Speaker 1>to Atlanta, we did a video in black and white

0:51:43.840 --> 0:51:47.480
<v Speaker 1>that you saw with the at the Furback Museum. So

0:51:47.600 --> 0:51:49.960
<v Speaker 1>they started spending all this money on us about you know,

0:51:50.080 --> 0:51:53.440
<v Speaker 1>with these videos and making our characters look good, and

0:51:53.520 --> 0:51:55.880
<v Speaker 1>then they put the tag straps on us. But nobody

0:51:55.960 --> 0:51:58.840
<v Speaker 1>really told us about tax traps until the night of

0:52:00.160 --> 0:52:02.680
<v Speaker 1>the Fallborough pay per view when we worked the Nasty Boys,

0:52:03.320 --> 0:52:05.319
<v Speaker 1>So nobody was telling us about anything they were going

0:52:05.360 --> 0:52:09.279
<v Speaker 1>to do. Yeah, So it was like, no, this is

0:52:09.400 --> 0:52:11.399
<v Speaker 1>w c W, a big time company like you said

0:52:11.400 --> 0:52:17.800
<v Speaker 1>that Ted Turner company, and no planning that they actually

0:52:17.840 --> 0:52:20.560
<v Speaker 1>told usamething that was going to go on. Yeah. And

0:52:20.680 --> 0:52:22.920
<v Speaker 1>then like when I worked Marcus at the pay per

0:52:23.040 --> 0:52:25.160
<v Speaker 1>view that sold out, he turned on me, became buff

0:52:25.840 --> 0:52:27.360
<v Speaker 1>I found out I was dressing him the pay per

0:52:27.440 --> 0:52:31.040
<v Speaker 1>view from his girlfriend at the gym up to me

0:52:31.120 --> 0:52:33.440
<v Speaker 1>and said, oh, you and Marcus are gonna have a

0:52:33.480 --> 0:52:34.719
<v Speaker 1>hell of a match. I'm like, what do you mean,

0:52:34.760 --> 0:52:36.759
<v Speaker 1>because you're wrestling them at the pay per view? What

0:52:37.239 --> 0:52:42.799
<v Speaker 1>did tell you who Marcus? He went at the gym yet,

0:52:43.360 --> 0:52:45.880
<v Speaker 1>I think because she came in, but he had to

0:52:46.000 --> 0:52:49.239
<v Speaker 1>have known before that day at the gym. I have

0:52:49.400 --> 0:52:52.359
<v Speaker 1>no idea. That's weird. Really, I have no idea. When

0:52:52.400 --> 0:52:54.719
<v Speaker 1>he found out it might have been the same day.

0:52:55.280 --> 0:52:58.440
<v Speaker 1>He hadn't gotten touching me yet, and I think the

0:52:58.480 --> 0:53:01.960
<v Speaker 1>pay per view was only like maybe three away. I

0:53:02.040 --> 0:53:03.920
<v Speaker 1>was like, really, all I knew was he turned on

0:53:04.000 --> 0:53:05.759
<v Speaker 1>me that night in Tampa And that was a fly

0:53:05.920 --> 0:53:09.840
<v Speaker 1>by Night Decision two where he was supposed because they

0:53:09.880 --> 0:53:11.920
<v Speaker 1>had had us doing all these little goofy spots where

0:53:11.960 --> 0:53:15.080
<v Speaker 1>he kept bumping to each other, screwing up matches, screwing

0:53:15.160 --> 0:53:18.959
<v Speaker 1>up finishes, causing each other to lose matches, back and forth,

0:53:19.800 --> 0:53:22.080
<v Speaker 1>so people knew something was going to happen, but not

0:53:22.200 --> 0:53:26.600
<v Speaker 1>really anything of consequence yet. Yeah, and so that night

0:53:26.640 --> 0:53:28.960
<v Speaker 1>in Tampa, I was supposed to cause Marcus to lose

0:53:29.000 --> 0:53:32.120
<v Speaker 1>the Steve Rigal on a TV title match, but Nash

0:53:32.239 --> 0:53:34.560
<v Speaker 1>came in and said, no, we aren't doing that, Mark,

0:53:34.600 --> 0:53:38.080
<v Speaker 1>You're becoming the nWo tonight. So Kevin Nash came in

0:53:38.160 --> 0:53:41.520
<v Speaker 1>and scrapped everything. And that was a paid back to

0:53:41.760 --> 0:53:46.359
<v Speaker 1>Marcus for being able to when Kevin Nash was doing

0:53:46.480 --> 0:53:49.640
<v Speaker 1>ODZ and Vinie Vegas and stuff, Marcus and then we're

0:53:49.680 --> 0:53:52.640
<v Speaker 1>travel makes Marcus was making like one fifty year and

0:53:52.760 --> 0:53:55.759
<v Speaker 1>now she'd making like seventy five grand a year, and

0:53:56.000 --> 0:53:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Mark helped pay travel expensis kind of me. We became partners.

0:54:00.040 --> 0:54:02.640
<v Speaker 1>Got you when Nash came in, got a little bit

0:54:02.680 --> 0:54:04.640
<v Speaker 1>of a rug, a little bit of control and stuff

0:54:04.640 --> 0:54:07.439
<v Speaker 1>like that. Said Marcus, you're the first guy turning bringing

0:54:07.480 --> 0:54:11.080
<v Speaker 1>in them. It worked out good for both of us

0:54:11.200 --> 0:54:13.120
<v Speaker 1>in the sets. Gave both of those pay per view

0:54:13.160 --> 0:54:16.360
<v Speaker 1>matches against each other. The kind of elevated both of

0:54:16.440 --> 0:54:18.040
<v Speaker 1>us a little bit. Yeah, gave was something to do

0:54:18.719 --> 0:54:22.200
<v Speaker 1>when they really weren't doing anything with us. But yeah,

0:54:22.320 --> 0:54:24.400
<v Speaker 1>going back to Paul, but yeah, when Paul sent me

0:54:24.480 --> 0:54:26.360
<v Speaker 1>down and said just what we want you for six months,

0:54:27.200 --> 0:54:29.360
<v Speaker 1>that made me think this guy's really you know, he

0:54:29.719 --> 0:54:31.840
<v Speaker 1>didn't just bring me in to use me for whatever.

0:54:31.920 --> 0:54:35.040
<v Speaker 1>He brought me in with an idea. Yeah, very cool,

0:54:35.280 --> 0:54:37.840
<v Speaker 1>you see. And I like that because we had on

0:54:39.120 --> 0:54:43.400
<v Speaker 1>Luke from the Bushwhackers and his story. Because they did

0:54:43.760 --> 0:54:45.960
<v Speaker 1>like a double shot with us, like for a weekend

0:54:46.080 --> 0:54:50.680
<v Speaker 1>or something that that had to be a blast. Oh.

0:54:50.760 --> 0:54:54.560
<v Speaker 1>They nice guys, but when they came in it was

0:54:54.719 --> 0:54:57.759
<v Speaker 1>instant heat because they came in as Dudley's and they

0:54:57.800 --> 0:55:00.520
<v Speaker 1>wore the shirt and they got booed out of the building.

0:55:00.960 --> 0:55:03.960
<v Speaker 1>But their their concept was they thought they were going

0:55:04.040 --> 0:55:09.239
<v Speaker 1>to be mainstays, and here they Paul said, oh, we're

0:55:09.280 --> 0:55:11.440
<v Speaker 1>not going to use you after this or what however,

0:55:11.560 --> 0:55:14.440
<v Speaker 1>he told the story, but Luke was under the impression

0:55:14.520 --> 0:55:16.680
<v Speaker 1>that they were going to be like ECW people now

0:55:16.960 --> 0:55:19.840
<v Speaker 1>Wow work with us, and he had no clue. So

0:55:19.960 --> 0:55:21.520
<v Speaker 1>when they came in, they thought they were going to

0:55:21.680 --> 0:55:24.600
<v Speaker 1>be with us for the long haul. And here that

0:55:24.760 --> 0:55:27.120
<v Speaker 1>we go on tour wherever we went the next week

0:55:27.160 --> 0:55:29.440
<v Speaker 1>and he's waiting for a ticket and there's no ticket.

0:55:30.520 --> 0:55:34.160
<v Speaker 1>So Paul saw something in you for sure, because that

0:55:34.480 --> 0:55:37.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, that doesn't happen with every single person. Well, Plus,

0:55:37.960 --> 0:55:40.439
<v Speaker 1>he put me against Rob and me with Rob. Plus

0:55:40.480 --> 0:55:45.160
<v Speaker 1>we had a legit friendship for years already, and people

0:55:45.239 --> 0:55:46.960
<v Speaker 1>knew of it at least a little bit here and

0:55:47.000 --> 0:55:49.520
<v Speaker 1>there along the way. We didn't have the Internet back then,

0:55:49.640 --> 0:55:53.600
<v Speaker 1>but you still people knew that we were friends. God yeah, real,

0:55:55.640 --> 0:55:57.439
<v Speaker 1>for real. I don't think a lot of this would

0:55:57.440 --> 0:56:00.920
<v Speaker 1>have survived back in the nineties until now. I think

0:56:00.960 --> 0:56:03.240
<v Speaker 1>that's why all the guys play video games and stuff

0:56:03.320 --> 0:56:06.440
<v Speaker 1>now instead of being the idiots we were back in

0:56:06.480 --> 0:56:11.719
<v Speaker 1>the nineties. Different world today, much different. The American mails

0:56:11.760 --> 0:56:18.200
<v Speaker 1>have been canceled for Sure Culture, I would love to

0:56:18.719 --> 0:56:20.200
<v Speaker 1>hear so much more. We're gonna have to have you

0:56:20.280 --> 0:56:23.279
<v Speaker 1>on again. But I do want to ask you, will

0:56:23.360 --> 0:56:27.959
<v Speaker 1>you stay with us and do another segment for Patreon? Sure,

0:56:28.040 --> 0:56:30.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling me, sure, You're Your pointing is so perfect

0:56:30.840 --> 0:56:33.680
<v Speaker 1>on the screen. Mind's like I was pointing to you.

0:56:34.200 --> 0:56:37.560
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna stay and work with him. But I want

0:56:37.600 --> 0:56:40.560
<v Speaker 1>to tell the people, are you doing anything these days?

0:56:40.640 --> 0:56:42.600
<v Speaker 1>What are you up to? Where can they find you?

0:56:43.680 --> 0:56:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Give everybody a little insight on what Riggs is doing today.

0:56:47.560 --> 0:56:50.440
<v Speaker 1>Rigs ain't doing too much instead of being retired. Okay,

0:56:50.640 --> 0:56:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Well that he made investments with a little bit of

0:56:54.040 --> 0:56:56.640
<v Speaker 1>money he had going on time. He made the right investments.

0:56:57.080 --> 0:56:59.800
<v Speaker 1>When he got divorced, he had the wife all the property,

0:56:59.840 --> 0:57:01.719
<v Speaker 1>and one sense, you can have all the gimmicks, all

0:57:01.760 --> 0:57:04.200
<v Speaker 1>the stuff as long as you don't take the money.

0:57:04.520 --> 0:57:09.040
<v Speaker 1>And she went yay and I went bye. I enjoyed right.

0:57:10.480 --> 0:57:12.479
<v Speaker 1>You're on the beach or you're near the beach, because

0:57:12.520 --> 0:57:14.720
<v Speaker 1>every time you post the picture, I get so pissed.

0:57:15.080 --> 0:57:17.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, look at this guy. He's on the beach.

0:57:18.080 --> 0:57:22.880
<v Speaker 1>He's showing sunsets. The weather's warm, and I'm freezing pretty

0:57:22.960 --> 0:57:25.840
<v Speaker 1>much on the beach. Yeah, I kindose like with about

0:57:25.880 --> 0:57:28.880
<v Speaker 1>a nifelow walk over a it used to be through

0:57:28.920 --> 0:57:31.640
<v Speaker 1>the dunes before they put the little walkways up there.

0:57:31.720 --> 0:57:38.320
<v Speaker 1>But okay, about about fifty yards from the beach, living large. Okay, well,

0:57:38.480 --> 0:57:40.440
<v Speaker 1>where where can they find you? If people want to

0:57:40.600 --> 0:57:43.880
<v Speaker 1>see your sunset pictures? Where you're out on Twitter? Uh?

0:57:44.080 --> 0:57:47.080
<v Speaker 1>Just on Twitter real Scottie Riggs. Okay, got the little

0:57:47.080 --> 0:57:49.160
<v Speaker 1>blue check mark? You should get one sometime. I don't

0:57:49.160 --> 0:57:53.920
<v Speaker 1>know why I have been trying, and Verified is like, nope,

0:57:54.360 --> 0:57:58.280
<v Speaker 1>we're not verifying any That makes sense because you're I

0:57:58.320 --> 0:57:59.800
<v Speaker 1>remember the first time I want to saw you on there,

0:57:59.800 --> 0:58:01.680
<v Speaker 1>and all sudden you had like maybe a couple of

0:58:01.760 --> 0:58:04.640
<v Speaker 1>thousand followers. You know you had ten thousand followers, you

0:58:04.720 --> 0:58:07.680
<v Speaker 1>know you had thirty I'm like, man, she blew up quick.

0:58:08.040 --> 0:58:11.040
<v Speaker 1>I only joined like three years ago because I was

0:58:11.160 --> 0:58:13.600
<v Speaker 1>doing one of the Rustle cons and they're like everybody,

0:58:14.000 --> 0:58:16.520
<v Speaker 1>Daphne Shannon. She kept telling me you have to get

0:58:16.560 --> 0:58:19.400
<v Speaker 1>on Twitter because when you do, you know you're coming back.

0:58:19.440 --> 0:58:21.920
<v Speaker 1>Because I had taken like the longest hiatus to have

0:58:22.000 --> 0:58:23.920
<v Speaker 1>my kids and stuff right and She's like, you got

0:58:24.040 --> 0:58:26.000
<v Speaker 1>to get back on because you have to promote it.

0:58:26.520 --> 0:58:28.600
<v Speaker 1>I said, no, one's gonna want to follow me, and

0:58:28.880 --> 0:58:30.720
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, ding ding ding, and I was I

0:58:30.840 --> 0:58:33.640
<v Speaker 1>started to cry because I was like, oh, I'm so old,

0:58:33.720 --> 0:58:35.800
<v Speaker 1>Why are they? Why are they following me? You know

0:58:35.840 --> 0:58:38.280
<v Speaker 1>what I mean? But I've been on for three years

0:58:38.320 --> 0:58:40.720
<v Speaker 1>and they won't verify me, and I just I don't

0:58:40.800 --> 0:58:44.080
<v Speaker 1>know why. Well, the only reason I got verified wasn't

0:58:44.120 --> 0:58:46.880
<v Speaker 1>because I was Scottie Riggs. It's because I actually had

0:58:46.920 --> 0:58:50.160
<v Speaker 1>a pretty good agent from score Sports and they're not

0:58:50.240 --> 0:58:57.120
<v Speaker 1>even on Twitter anymore. That all remember is the first

0:58:57.160 --> 0:59:00.280
<v Speaker 1>person that kind of wrapped me from there didn't do

0:59:00.320 --> 0:59:02.560
<v Speaker 1>anything for me. The next person who read me. I

0:59:02.640 --> 0:59:04.560
<v Speaker 1>asked her once and she said, oh yeah, I'll take

0:59:04.600 --> 0:59:06.600
<v Speaker 1>care of that in the heartbeat because I was. I

0:59:06.720 --> 0:59:09.080
<v Speaker 1>was very fun. Their little thing, which is like a

0:59:10.200 --> 0:59:13.000
<v Speaker 1>score Sports was like an Instagram thing you could post pictures,

0:59:13.040 --> 0:59:16.400
<v Speaker 1>but it was all athletes that I was doing. And

0:59:16.560 --> 0:59:19.720
<v Speaker 1>she got me verified on there within about three weeks,

0:59:21.000 --> 0:59:23.600
<v Speaker 1>and that was the only reason I got verified. I've

0:59:23.640 --> 0:59:27.920
<v Speaker 1>been trying. Believe me, I have one more source that

0:59:28.040 --> 0:59:30.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm waiting on and if she can do it for me,

0:59:30.560 --> 0:59:33.800
<v Speaker 1>then perfect. If not, I will never I know there

0:59:33.880 --> 0:59:37.320
<v Speaker 1>was a guy who got the Bobby heenan fake account

0:59:39.080 --> 0:59:41.919
<v Speaker 1>that got it verified and I asked the guy about

0:59:42.000 --> 0:59:43.960
<v Speaker 1>because I asked the guy would try to get you verified?

0:59:44.120 --> 0:59:47.760
<v Speaker 1>And he said that getting to Bobby heenan fake account

0:59:47.840 --> 0:59:51.040
<v Speaker 1>verified cost him his abilities because he went to bat

0:59:51.160 --> 0:59:54.160
<v Speaker 1>form for whoever he knew through Twitter, and when they

0:59:54.200 --> 0:59:56.080
<v Speaker 1>found out it was a fake account, it wasn't the

0:59:56.240 --> 0:59:59.320
<v Speaker 1>count and they say shut it down. He goes, made

0:59:59.360 --> 1:00:02.680
<v Speaker 1>that cost me my connection. There's people on there that

1:00:02.880 --> 1:00:06.600
<v Speaker 1>that are fans that that are not in the entertainment

1:00:06.680 --> 1:00:10.040
<v Speaker 1>business like they have. They have two hundred and eighty followers,

1:00:10.080 --> 1:00:13.040
<v Speaker 1>they have a blue check mark, and I was just like, Okay,

1:00:13.760 --> 1:00:16.680
<v Speaker 1>good for you. But yeah, I mean it's it's goofy.

1:00:16.800 --> 1:00:19.400
<v Speaker 1>But again, that's that's the one cool thing about getting

1:00:19.440 --> 1:00:22.440
<v Speaker 1>that done. I've been on I got on like about

1:00:22.440 --> 1:00:25.360
<v Speaker 1>the time I got done with Facebook. I got on

1:00:25.520 --> 1:00:29.800
<v Speaker 1>Twitter and that was thanks to RVD. I do think

1:00:29.800 --> 1:00:33.160
<v Speaker 1>it was back in twenty twelve. Oh. I mentioned something

1:00:33.160 --> 1:00:35.480
<v Speaker 1>to Amy. He told me, he goes, dude, get on Twitter. MI,

1:00:35.640 --> 1:00:38.760
<v Speaker 1>what's Twitter? Yeah? I said, I what was I going

1:00:38.800 --> 1:00:43.360
<v Speaker 1>to At the time, I was changing shitty diapers and

1:00:44.040 --> 1:00:46.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, taking care of the kids. Like, what am

1:00:46.240 --> 1:00:48.680
<v Speaker 1>I going to tweet about? I just changed another poop diaper? Like,

1:00:48.960 --> 1:00:51.080
<v Speaker 1>what's to read that. I wasn't in the business at

1:00:51.120 --> 1:00:54.400
<v Speaker 1>that time. I wasn't doing anything professionally, so I didn't

1:00:54.400 --> 1:00:57.280
<v Speaker 1>think I needed an account. You know, there was nothing

1:00:57.360 --> 1:00:59.600
<v Speaker 1>to tweet. What am I going to tweet? I mean

1:00:59.640 --> 1:01:01.280
<v Speaker 1>that that kind of what I do. I did for

1:01:01.960 --> 1:01:03.800
<v Speaker 1>for a while there. Like you said, I did a

1:01:03.840 --> 1:01:06.240
<v Speaker 1>bunch of interviews and stuff like two Bad Power Trip

1:01:06.280 --> 1:01:09.960
<v Speaker 1>and everything. When I first got on there. Yeah give them,

1:01:10.080 --> 1:01:13.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, I give some props. But when I first

1:01:13.240 --> 1:01:16.680
<v Speaker 1>got on there, it was like I had the same thing,

1:01:17.240 --> 1:01:19.360
<v Speaker 1>and so people started to ask me. All I got

1:01:19.480 --> 1:01:23.000
<v Speaker 1>questions all the time by American mails or flaught the

1:01:23.080 --> 1:01:26.680
<v Speaker 1>iPads is sitting the other And so when people first

1:01:26.840 --> 1:01:31.760
<v Speaker 1>and Dreamer and Dustin Roads and Van Dam and all

1:01:31.840 --> 1:01:34.440
<v Speaker 1>the guys that were Habou check marks and knew who

1:01:34.480 --> 1:01:37.320
<v Speaker 1>I was, a legit guy started putting out this real

1:01:37.360 --> 1:01:39.720
<v Speaker 1>Scott of Reiges is the real guy. Yeah, give him

1:01:39.720 --> 1:01:41.840
<v Speaker 1>a follow, right, That's that's what I had to do

1:01:41.960 --> 1:01:44.200
<v Speaker 1>because nobody believed because I had been gone for years

1:01:44.240 --> 1:01:45.760
<v Speaker 1>and nobody believed it was me. And I was like,

1:01:45.800 --> 1:01:49.440
<v Speaker 1>get it, it's kind of me, you know, by check

1:01:49.520 --> 1:01:52.240
<v Speaker 1>mark or not. I'm out there, I'm trying. I'm hustling.

1:01:52.480 --> 1:01:54.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, we're all carmies. You're working, you're doing good,

1:01:54.720 --> 1:01:57.240
<v Speaker 1>you're kicking working. We're working. But we're gonna keep working.

1:01:57.280 --> 1:01:59.400
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna keep you with us. We're gonna go to

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<v Speaker 1>our Patreon Chad, what are we doing this week? So

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<v Speaker 1>we are going to look at some of the worst

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<v Speaker 1>places to get caught having sex. So I think one

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<v Speaker 1>of the American males is a great person to be

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<v Speaker 1>joining us on that riggs. If you would like to,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you wouldn't you you are allowed to keep

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<v Speaker 1>your mouth shut. But it's a list and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go yes, but don't say yeah, come to Patreona. But

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<v Speaker 1>other than that, we're going to run some classic Patreon

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<v Speaker 1>this week. Because of my move, we got to cut

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<v Speaker 1>our recording session a little short, so we got some

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<v Speaker 1>of the best I'm picking the best in the business

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<v Speaker 1>that we have. Camera. Now, you're good, you're good, you're good,

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<v Speaker 1>you're good. You get we I can hear you better

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<v Speaker 1>than I think ninety five or ninety six percent of

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<v Speaker 1>the guests we've ever had. I found ridiculously good. So

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<v Speaker 1>barely hear you too, and that's why my face is

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<v Speaker 1>so close to the screen. Turn your volume off all

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<v Speaker 1>the way up. Don't worry about it. Don't take her

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<v Speaker 1>with anything. He get a computer, don't worry about it.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to follow me, it don't happen. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like you didn't need Twitter. I don't need a computer.

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<v Speaker 1>What not get a computer for? I have an iPhone? True,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't get that until three years ago. I got

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<v Speaker 1>you all right. If you want to follow me across

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<v Speaker 1>the board on social media, it is at e c

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<v Speaker 1>W daver Francine, join us on Patreon. Mister Scotty Riggs

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<v Speaker 1>will be with us. And with that, that is a rap.