Speaker 1: All right, let's get it going right here, right now.
Speaker 1: This is Eyes up Here, and you're listening to a
Speaker 1: brand new Eyes up Here exclusively on our Patreon channel
Speaker 1: as well as on the Creative Control podcast network. If
Speaker 1: you didn't know of by now. My name is Chad
Speaker 1: and every single week I've joined here with my mouse
Speaker 1: eared wearing Queen of Extreme co host, the one and
Speaker 1: only Queen of Extreme, Miss Francie. Yes, this is a
Speaker 1: weird week for us because mister Chad o here disrupted
Speaker 1: my week a lot with his flip flopping because he
Speaker 1: had to move. Oh wow, he had to ruin my
Speaker 1: week and make me work on a Saturday night. So
Speaker 1: I didn't have it in me to put on a
Speaker 1: nice shirt. So I'm wearing my Mickey MIAs shirt today.
Speaker 1: I apologize. I appreciate the accommodation very much. It looks
Speaker 1: like my nipples are sticking out, but it's not. I
Speaker 1: have a brawl on. Look at the Do you see that?
Speaker 1: Do you see that? Yeah? No, I can't. I see
Speaker 1: Mickey's nose. Okay, no, you're right, you're my braw pattern.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Oh it's funny. Oh the drama of
Speaker 1: being a woman what you have to worry about. My
Speaker 1: nipples are hard. Nobody cares. No, they're not, though I
Speaker 1: have a look I have I have a brawl on,
Speaker 1: so it's not a nipple. What a night for hard nipples?
Speaker 1: Here as we record on a Saturday, the second time
Speaker 1: we've ever recorded on a Saturday. I again, I appreciate
Speaker 1: the accommodation. It has been one heck of a week
Speaker 1: end of the week. Specifically, what's this? Oh, it's just
Speaker 1: a tiny little violin that you're playing for me. I'm
Speaker 1: not asking for violin, just you know, I'd love for
Speaker 1: somebody to experience it with me more than anything. Hey,
Speaker 1: I moved when I was eight once pregnant. No, I
Speaker 1: wasn't eight month I was. No. I ran the show
Speaker 1: when I was eight months. I moved when I was
Speaker 1: like we was I six four and a half months
Speaker 1: something like that, But I was pregnant. I'm not the
Speaker 1: first person to move. I'm not the last person to move.
Speaker 1: Ahead tell us it's just been you know. So I
Speaker 1: sold one house the house i'm currently and this is
Speaker 1: actually the last ever recording to be done in the house. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, look, you've seen it behind me there it
Speaker 1: is it's almost done. All the stuff's off the walls,
Speaker 1: the jerseys, everything's off the walls. My new studio will
Speaker 1: not fully be ready, but I will be in its
Speaker 1: for our next recording. So yeah, well it's gonna be
Speaker 1: you know, it's the wreck it's the wreck area, the
Speaker 1: wreck room of my basement that it's going to be
Speaker 1: where the desk is going to be, and it's gonna
Speaker 1: be very cool, and it's gonna be finished eventually. But
Speaker 1: the next time we record, I'll be in the new place.
Speaker 1: Just the journey to get to here, I had to
Speaker 1: sell my one house to buy my next house. Okay, whatever,
Speaker 1: that was the process. We did it. It's all good.
Speaker 1: The people who are buying my house, or have bought,
Speaker 1: which I'm now renting from them until I move out,
Speaker 1: have been assholes. Oh they have been dickheads the whole
Speaker 1: entire time as we've been finishing that transaction. The people
Speaker 1: that were moving into I think, did I tell you this.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to go into it on the air,
Speaker 1: but I told you the story behind the house, correct, No,
Speaker 1: all right, I will tell you off the air. I
Speaker 1: can't tell it on the air for legal reasons. But
Speaker 1: the people were lovely, lovely, lovely, lovely people. Older couple.
Speaker 1: We went to do, like, you know, the inspection. Whenever
Speaker 1: we met them, they weren't supposed to be there, but
Speaker 1: they were. They were very nice. The woman cornered Liz
Speaker 1: and was like, hey, you know, I would like to
Speaker 1: leave this stuff for you. She politely just said yes,
Speaker 1: it was a couple of things. It was a rug
Speaker 1: sconces and fertilizer for the garden. Right, okay, whatever, she
Speaker 1: just politely. Liz says, you can tell Liz anything. She
Speaker 1: will say. Yes, she's the worst because of that stuff.
Speaker 1: She said, yes, okay, we go for our preliminary walkthrough
Speaker 1: the day before closing and we open the door to
Speaker 1: the house, to the house trash, what dirty, beyond belief
Speaker 1: stuff everywhere they left, shower curtains, shower mats, stuff and draws,
Speaker 1: hair brushes, toothbrushes. Oh everywhere you turned around, dog match
Speaker 1: dog peep heads in the closet, a bed frame, you know,
Speaker 1: a headboard, not fertilizer, every garden tool known to man
Speaker 1: that you could possibly imagine and broken, not like something
Speaker 1: you would keep, like, oh hey that's a new rate
Speaker 1: they left behind. Thanks, you're just trash, trash, trash, And
Speaker 1: as we're getting the shit sandwich from the new people
Speaker 1: buy in our house, We're sitting here going like what
Speaker 1: the hell, Like, what are you gonna you know, what's
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do for us? Short answer was nothing.
Speaker 1: They were gonna do nothing. They didn't want to come
Speaker 1: and pick it up. They thought that that was acceptable
Speaker 1: because Liz said yes to those three the three items.
Speaker 1: They thought they were just being nice and helpful. How
Speaker 1: are they being helpful by leaving garbage in your house?
Speaker 1: Pete id's from a dog? Got me? Got me? So said,
Speaker 1: excuse me, get this shit out of here? Yep, right now,
Speaker 1: not to mention. The day before our walkthrough, I get
Speaker 1: a text from my real estate agent saying, hey, the
Speaker 1: owners would like to see if you would be interested
Speaker 1: in buying their lawnmower right and I'm like, I politely decline,
Speaker 1: you know, no, thank you. I looked up a brand
Speaker 1: new lawnmower. I can get one for ninety nine dollars
Speaker 1: at Walmart. If I wanted to write, I could even
Speaker 1: get the plug plugged in one. Now you know it
Speaker 1: looks like a vacuumcume your rug with are your garden
Speaker 1: or grass whatever, and I go there, I go them
Speaker 1: motherfucking goddamn stupid lawnmower better be in the goddamn garage
Speaker 1: if they left all this shit here and it wasn't
Speaker 1: they wanted us. They wanted us to buy a stupid lawnmower,
Speaker 1: but left all the other crap behind. Well, now, honestly,
Speaker 1: is it like appropriate for you to tell your real
Speaker 1: estate agent, hey, get them over here and clear this
Speaker 1: shit out of here, like yes, okay, but we did, okay.
Speaker 1: So it turns out the the old happy couple were
Speaker 1: are not a happy couple. They are divorced. They show up,
Speaker 1: they sold the house right, Well, they show up at
Speaker 1: eight o'clock, except they're supposed to meet my agent at
Speaker 1: eight o'clock the morning of our closing. We were closing.
Speaker 1: It supposed to be at nine. Got moved whatever. They
Speaker 1: were supposed to meet at eight o'clock. They got there
Speaker 1: at seven. They still had a key to the house.
Speaker 1: It wasn't their house anymore. They signed the paperwork the
Speaker 1: day before, so they go into the house like it's
Speaker 1: theirs not. They took everything this time, including the Wisconsins
Speaker 1: and the rug and the stuff. They were gonna leave
Speaker 1: behind for Liz. The one thing I was happy they
Speaker 1: left there was a bar that they had bolted into
Speaker 1: the floor. You're not allowed to You're not allowed to
Speaker 1: take anything that's bolted. So I was like, yes, all right,
Speaker 1: the one thing that I would have like wanted them
Speaker 1: to leave is still there. So we have this brand
Speaker 1: new bar area down in our basics. But just like
Speaker 1: so that my agents like they are pissed. They're so
Speaker 1: pissed they think that you're ungrateful. They were cursing us
Speaker 1: the whole time. Yeah, all my agents like, look, assholes,
Speaker 1: you guys left all this trash behind, Like missus, asshole,
Speaker 1: you're being unreasonable and my clients shouldn't buy a house
Speaker 1: that looks like this, Yeah, exactly. Oh it was just
Speaker 1: it was brutal. I mean I understand, you know a
Speaker 1: couple things like you said, but when you get to garbage,
Speaker 1: when you used pad that a dog pissed all over
Speaker 1: in a hair brush, I got DNA. Yeah, some toothbrush
Speaker 1: that somebody used, that's disgusting. I don't want to touch
Speaker 1: other people's stuff. A bath mat around the toilet that
Speaker 1: like little pp dribble could get on. I'm gonna touch that.
Speaker 1: That is too much. Yeah, it was bad, so you know,
Speaker 1: all in all, they came and collected it. We had
Speaker 1: a cleaner at U at eight o'clock this morning, come
Speaker 1: in and clean. Well. The context of the contract was
Speaker 1: that it only needed to be broom swept, right, but
Speaker 1: it wasn't broom swept. There was you could see legit
Speaker 1: dirt all over the place. They had contract dirt all
Speaker 1: over like they there was nothing. So our cleaners come in, right,
Speaker 1: you pay a pretty penny, they come in and clean.
Speaker 1: I swear I never seen a bathroom almost do the
Speaker 1: thing like shiny and doing it now. It was how
Speaker 1: the house should have looked yesterday. Yeah, sorry, that's that's
Speaker 1: a disappointment. Yeah, it was bad yesterday. Jada mastiff dog okay,
Speaker 1: might as well had a bear in the house. And
Speaker 1: it smells so much like dog. All the windows open,
Speaker 1: nice little breeze coming off the pond behind the house.
Speaker 1: Nice little breeze coming in. You smell dog when it
Speaker 1: changes directions. Not a fan. Well, let's hope the worst
Speaker 1: is over. Yes, you know, and you don't find anything
Speaker 1: else and you have a very happy life there. I
Speaker 1: appreciate that and extending the invite to the Queen of
Speaker 1: Extreme Family to Virginia. We finally get an invitation. Well,
Speaker 1: now I have the whole floor for you. You guys.
Speaker 1: If there's a kitchenette, there's a bedroom, a bedroom, you
Speaker 1: got your own private area. You just have a day
Speaker 1: have at it. Thank you. Well, we'll see what's what's
Speaker 1: going on. I'll ask the hope if hey, yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: try to make it worth your while and find something
Speaker 1: down here. Well, my sister in laws down there too. Something.
Speaker 1: Oh that's right, Yes, that's right. I don't know what
Speaker 1: prob Yeah, proximity from you guys, thirty minutes thirty minutes
Speaker 1: is it? Thirty minutes from okay, right down Route seventeen.
Speaker 1: We'll have to figure something else. I'll skipping a jump.
Speaker 1: I'm super excited for you guys. I hope it is
Speaker 1: everything that you have dreamt of, and I hope it's
Speaker 1: good for the children, and I hope you find new
Speaker 1: swingers to hang out with, because you know, you make
Speaker 1: it a little lonely in that new development of yours,
Speaker 1: so pretty big neighborhood, and you never know, I just
Speaker 1: got to hang that upside down pineapple outside the house
Speaker 1: and see who starts knocking on the door. Is that
Speaker 1: what you do? That is the international sign for you're
Speaker 1: in a safe place for swingers. Oh is it my homework? Girl? Okay,
Speaker 1: I know what I'm talking. Idea. Yeah, no, idea. Well
Speaker 1: listen about me. This is your platform power. You know.
Speaker 1: I'm dandy. I'm dandy. I'm well. Uh you know, I
Speaker 1: didn't have that much of excitement in my house this
Speaker 1: week as you did. But I'm glad it's the weekend
Speaker 1: and I'm ready to party. Oh yeah, no, I'm good.
Speaker 1: I'm good. Just did some work and you know, spend
Speaker 1: some time with the kids. Same ould team. Weld did
Speaker 1: a lot of walking. I have my two pound weights
Speaker 1: that I put on each hand and I'm like the
Speaker 1: the mom that power walks through the city and I'm
Speaker 1: doing that all week. Today I took a rest day.
Speaker 1: My hip was really bothering me. But uh, you know,
Speaker 1: we just had a little pizza party and now I'm
Speaker 1: ready for our guests, who I can't wait to talk to.
Speaker 1: I've kept in touch with him over the years through
Speaker 1: mostly through the internet, and I've been reaching out to
Speaker 1: him and I'm just like I'm extending an invite will
Speaker 1: you come on? And he keeps saying yes, but the
Speaker 1: timing was never right, and our worlds just came as
Speaker 1: one this this Saturday. So I'm I'm excited to have
Speaker 1: him on and hopefully I sent him the link, so
Speaker 1: hopefully he'll be up yet yet Ready. I'm pumped because
Speaker 1: like the fact that he was able to accommodate, the
Speaker 1: switch of days was even better Like that, that to
Speaker 1: me was the best part, because that's that meant it
Speaker 1: was meant to be. Well, you know, it's funny. Can
Speaker 1: you please tell our children to stop? It sounds like
Speaker 1: a herd of cattle going through my house right now,
Speaker 1: so it sounds like a parade. Up stare two children
Speaker 1: running through the hardware course. When I was talking to him,
Speaker 1: I said, do you need a link for the computer
Speaker 1: or do you want me to send you a text message?
Speaker 1: He writes back, send me a text. I don't own
Speaker 1: a computer. Okay, are you a caveman? What is going on? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so he's gonna be on his phone for this one.
Speaker 1: But I love him and I'm excited. Oh wait, and
Speaker 1: I got a text message. Link ain't working, he says,
Speaker 1: what I sent him? The link Okay, let me send
Speaker 1: it again. America, I'm doing my class part out. If
Speaker 1: you see him come and better run for cover. I
Speaker 1: it played at my bachelor party. You were such a
Speaker 1: freaking mark. Hey, I didn't book the bachelor party. But
Speaker 1: all of a sudden the music started to play like
Speaker 1: if it's got their music had a great faded like later.
Speaker 1: You know what we need to start doing. We need
Speaker 1: to start playing theme music when the guest comes on.
Speaker 1: I would love to if I played it would play
Speaker 1: over them. But he's got one that I wish I
Speaker 1: could just play on loop in my brain twenty four
Speaker 1: or seven. I pull it up right now? Can I
Speaker 1: play it? You could? Sure? Let me run and better
Speaker 1: run for cover? American? Mayl hold on, there it is.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play it. Tell when he comes on. Nobody yet?
Speaker 1: Not yet? All right? No, we have an ad. I
Speaker 1: hate that head, I know. Hold on, hold on, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do it when it comes on. Can you you
Speaker 1: can edit all this out right? Yeah? I can get
Speaker 1: it out the filler. Ain't the filler? Come on? I
Speaker 1: just love that it shows that in a world of
Speaker 1: cowboy and Eagles fans, everyone can be on the same page.
Speaker 1: Already football allegiances aside. We can all as one society,
Speaker 1: be one. I'll get along. Yes, oh my god, for
Speaker 1: the time being, before this this world goes to hell
Speaker 1: in a hand basket. Are we going to be in
Speaker 1: trouble for playing this song? No, okay, because it is
Speaker 1: it is his theme. We'll be laughing over it. It's
Speaker 1: not really going to be caught. You know, if you
Speaker 1: come to Virginia, I hope you bring a very fuel
Speaker 1: efficient car. Why not because gas is going to be
Speaker 1: seventy five dollars a gall Well, we might have to
Speaker 1: wait till twenty twenty four. That's true. That's true. That's true.
Speaker 1: We'll see what happened. Or you could take either a
Speaker 1: Jetson's car, you know the one that goes yeah, or
Speaker 1: you know Winston's car where we use our feet. Oh okay,
Speaker 1: all right, you want to play it, you want to
Speaker 1: do your music. This is my good friend from the
Speaker 1: American Males. This is Scottie Riggs. Everyone wait, wait, go
Speaker 1: ahead through. She wanted to give you a proper intro.
Speaker 1: Are you ready? Are you ready to come through your current? No? No, no. Not.
Speaker 1: One of the biggest memories of seeing Mick Foley sing
Speaker 1: this song one time. It's to you, no, not to me.
Speaker 1: It was something on the YouTube thing back when he
Speaker 1: was in t n A. It was him, uh, Jimmy
Speaker 1: Borosh Abyss and somebody else, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: the songs started playing the off shore doing the clap
Speaker 1: and speaking. Day I remember pointed out us, yeah, yeah, hey,
Speaker 1: this is Mina marcus is expression when we heard this
Speaker 1: song the first time. Guess what you were my favorite
Speaker 1: American male And Jimmy Hart was sitting there going, yeah, baby,
Speaker 1: it's got to divo and where Mark was like, you
Speaker 1: don't say again you didn't love the theme song. I
Speaker 1: thought it was catchy. It was. It was the toughest
Speaker 1: it it was. We actually did love it. I loved
Speaker 1: it because it was so cheesy. It just gave us.
Speaker 1: It gave people something when they heard it, they knew
Speaker 1: they knew who it was, you know, the one of
Speaker 1: those on one of those things where like there was
Speaker 1: like who's coming out now? Soon as they heard they're
Speaker 1: like America males of course. Well, first, let me just
Speaker 1: say it's great to see you you too. You look great,
Speaker 1: You look great. I didn't dress for you today. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I usually dress for you, though, well I was just
Speaker 1: gonna say, what the hell are you wearing because you're
Speaker 1: kissing me off. That's fine. I usually get dressed up
Speaker 1: a little bit, but because our schedule is so often.
Speaker 1: It was a Saturday night and I had pizza and
Speaker 1: I feel more. I wore a big shirt, so iPod
Speaker 1: and this is not my nipple. This is my bra.
Speaker 1: Do you see that? It wasn't looking but because what's
Speaker 1: it look? Eyes up here, yes, eyes up here. I
Speaker 1: been looking when you had to point it out for
Speaker 1: the people American Mail, you had to point out that's
Speaker 1: not your nipple. It looks it is not my nipple.
Speaker 1: It is a bra because I you had, but because
Speaker 1: of American Mail, your favorite, you had to point that out. Well.
Speaker 1: I also pointed it out to chatter earlier because I thought,
Speaker 1: you know, if he looked at me weird because it
Speaker 1: looks like I'm excited. But it could have been because
Speaker 1: of Scottie Riggs. Just couldn't have been. I'm sure it
Speaker 1: wouldn't be the first nipple that popped out after the America.
Speaker 1: The Queen of definitely signed a lot of booths. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so Scotty, Uh, what do you want to talk about
Speaker 1: because I know you've done a bunch of interviews. It's like,
Speaker 1: how did you get started? You know, when did you
Speaker 1: break into business? I did that once with you for
Speaker 1: like two and a half hours to our trip. We
Speaker 1: interviewed you in twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen. It was epic.
Speaker 1: You made our it was it was an unbelievable experience
Speaker 1: for me. I'm glad you were there. And that's all
Speaker 1: I gotta say. I don't want to sell I don't
Speaker 1: want to sound like a mark anymore. I'll just let
Speaker 1: you guys talk. No, it's all cool to me. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'll talk about anything and everything because it's to me
Speaker 1: a conversation. I hate like doing any Remember I did
Speaker 1: what was that? Uh? I can't think of the dude's name,
Speaker 1: the guy who used to come around East w all
Speaker 1: the time business inside, Yeah, Finstein. I did his thing
Speaker 1: and sat there. It was in Wister Salem, North Carolina,
Speaker 1: sat there in the hotel room and the guy sat
Speaker 1: there were like three to four pages of this question.
Speaker 1: It was question after question after and I'm sitting there
Speaker 1: going and he and noybody thought I was like bragging
Speaker 1: about our American maleness or flock atrocities or debauchery type stuff.
Speaker 1: And I was like me, it was the questions the
Speaker 1: guy who was asking the question what in't Finstein? It
Speaker 1: was his helper was asking all these this random gross
Speaker 1: question rad and all this that going You sure just
Speaker 1: where you want to ask? Yeah? Yeah, the fans want
Speaker 1: to know this stuff. I'm like you fans want to know?
Speaker 1: Do you want to know? You were kind of like
Speaker 1: putting yourself over for being one of the boys. Basically, well,
Speaker 1: it was a question that I was being asked you
Speaker 1: what't like I was putting myself. No, but that's that's
Speaker 1: the path that they took. Yeah, yeah, well that wasn't
Speaker 1: your fault. No, I don't do that here. I let
Speaker 1: you say whatever you want. But I thought we can
Speaker 1: talk about the first meeting that we had in ECW
Speaker 1: because Rob van Dam brought you in as just his friend.
Speaker 1: Like you came early. I remember meeting you, like, I
Speaker 1: don't know what year it was, but you came to
Speaker 1: just visit. That was That was ninety five. Actually, because
Speaker 1: me and Marcus were the World Tag Team camps, we
Speaker 1: had a weekend off and I got in touch of
Speaker 1: Rob as a dude got weekend off. What are you
Speaker 1: doing this weekend? And he's like, dude, we're up in Philly,
Speaker 1: come to the show. So I said, sure, came up there,
Speaker 1: met Tommy for the first time, met Pauli for the
Speaker 1: first time over at the Marriotte by the airport and
Speaker 1: hung with them, got a bite to eat, and they
Speaker 1: took me to the show. Rode with them over there.
Speaker 1: I can't remember if rob was with us or not. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Robin was with us. We all rode over in the
Speaker 1: minivan together and that was pretty much. That was like,
Speaker 1: that was for talking about Minie and Carino and all
Speaker 1: the guy's nova and you know everyone that was there.
Speaker 1: I think that was the same night Kimona did her
Speaker 1: dance broke. Yeah. I remember I was at one of
Speaker 1: the holes in the wall, going, hey, what's going on
Speaker 1: with this? And because they were like checked this out
Speaker 1: and I looked over and that was the first time
Speaker 1: I met Taz too. But he didn't like me being there.
Speaker 1: I remember he had an attitude towards me for some reason.
Speaker 1: And the only reason I found out afterwards was he
Speaker 1: he didn't want me to be in the dress room
Speaker 1: because you thought I was there to take somebody's job.
Speaker 1: He thought I was looking for a job or a
Speaker 1: spot or something. I was like, does he not know?
Speaker 1: I'm like with w CW's in the world. But he
Speaker 1: was just a little standout. He was the only one.
Speaker 1: It was kind of stand offers to me, huh, okay, well,
Speaker 1: what were your impressions? I mean, you know, what did
Speaker 1: you think about us? What did you think about the building?
Speaker 1: Because you hear about this great ECW arena and then
Speaker 1: you get there and it is a shithole. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I remember it was like the toilet triver flowing,
Speaker 1: the floor was wet, the rest room was just a
Speaker 1: bunch of you know, rooms and whatever with unfinished walls. Yes,
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. But and to me it
Speaker 1: was kind of cool because it was like it wasn't
Speaker 1: because you gotta remember. I was also in Memphis for
Speaker 1: eight months from January ninety five to August ninety five,
Speaker 1: rustling six nights a week, sometimes in good buildings like
Speaker 1: you missed off Coliseum, Louisville Gardens Evansville was a good building.
Speaker 1: But then on a couple of nights of the week
Speaker 1: on Thursday and Fridays at spots shows it would be
Speaker 1: high school gyms, churches, all kind of just run down
Speaker 1: buildings that some of the guys would run And so
Speaker 1: to me to come to y'all's arena, it was like
Speaker 1: the building didn't matter, but the vibe was so cool.
Speaker 1: That was the thing. I think. Probably I can see
Speaker 1: it smirk in your face. Probably everyone tells you that,
Speaker 1: because it really it was real. When you walk in there,
Speaker 1: you felt an attitude, You felt the vibe, you felt
Speaker 1: an energy that was legit. Yeah, that was the one
Speaker 1: thing that really stuck with me for the longest time.
Speaker 1: Everybody that has worked the arena or been to the arena,
Speaker 1: you know, you can compare it to like a Madison
Speaker 1: Square garden or a big fancy arena, But to me,
Speaker 1: that was my favorite building ever to work in because
Speaker 1: of the people and like you said, the vibe going
Speaker 1: in like they were into it from the minute we
Speaker 1: started to the minute we shut the doors. I mean
Speaker 1: they they would stay till three four in the morning
Speaker 1: to get autographs like they were devoted fans and cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: very cool. And you I loved it because, like you know,
Speaker 1: I think legally, I think we can fit like twelve hundred,
Speaker 1: but we used to sell. I always say this, we
Speaker 1: should sell tickets with no guarantee of sight. They were
Speaker 1: like five dollars tickets, so people can walk in and
Speaker 1: just stand behind the bleachers. They just wanted to be
Speaker 1: in the building, you know, and that intimate atmosphere, like
Speaker 1: you can literally look into the crowd and make eye
Speaker 1: contact with somebody and just feel their energy, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like it was such an intimate experience,
Speaker 1: and I love that. Without that building, I would love
Speaker 1: to have said the same thing about Center Stage because
Speaker 1: it was a small building with y'all fans. It was
Speaker 1: great when I was there with WCW. They hired models
Speaker 1: and girls to sit in the audience and dress up
Speaker 1: the audience. They gave away tickets. So some of the
Speaker 1: tickets that gave away, I mean, some of it was
Speaker 1: cool with boy scouts, girls scouts, troops and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: But then there were also just people that seemed just
Speaker 1: to come in from anywhere to sit down for a
Speaker 1: couple hours and just to be a part of it.
Speaker 1: Center stage when you have the right audience, which I
Speaker 1: saw with you guys, because right before I started with
Speaker 1: you guys in two thousand, I actually went to see
Speaker 1: the show y'all were doing at center stage right and
Speaker 1: have been there before with WCW. I sat back and wondered,
Speaker 1: like I almost wondered, what's the vibe? What's the field
Speaker 1: going to be here? And it was the same thing
Speaker 1: as they you said we were rending because y'all fans
Speaker 1: just brought it. I mean, that was the thing it went.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think was there any building other than
Speaker 1: maybe one in Atlanta was cool because that building had
Speaker 1: a history to it. I had a rustling history and
Speaker 1: I'd actually gone there a bunch as a fan. And
Speaker 1: where was that at in Atlanta? Omney the omni Okay
Speaker 1: I had mentioned the Elks Lodge. Do you remember working
Speaker 1: in Queens? I don't think I ever did the ox
Speaker 1: And I thought you, I thought you did work there
Speaker 1: because we ran there in two thousand. I want to
Speaker 1: say you did, Scottie, I probably did. I just yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the same Jimmy Church shots to Rob and broke
Speaker 1: my nose twice and so I went a lot of
Speaker 1: my uh my bad memory on him. Well let's go away.
Speaker 1: You know, love Rob, but you know I, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're not the first to say that the funny thing
Speaker 1: was the first time you and Rob met was about
Speaker 1: ninety three, okay, independence around Georgia and South Carolina, and
Speaker 1: Greg Price was a promoter that actually put us together
Speaker 1: after a ben Masters show in South Georgia and Cordel, Georgia,
Speaker 1: and that was at a skating rink and that place
Speaker 1: had a real good vibe to it, believe or that
Speaker 1: back in the early ninetiest ninety two is my first
Speaker 1: match for every ninety six of ninety two with my
Speaker 1: first matches, So this is around ninety three when I
Speaker 1: started getting branching out, getting booked by other promoters and stuff.
Speaker 1: And the first time at Rob we got along pretty well.
Speaker 1: And we were on a show in a small town
Speaker 1: in Georgia, and I wrestled as myself against Billy Black
Speaker 1: and like the second match, and then I think Doriy
Speaker 1: funk Junr Was the main event. I can't remember who
Speaker 1: he was wrestling, but me and Rob were like the
Speaker 1: semi main. So I wrestled second and then wrestled fourth,
Speaker 1: and I went on and put some like a black
Speaker 1: geyaw like I was just like a great mood of character.
Speaker 1: I put a mask on holdline yards Yea and Rob
Speaker 1: kicked me right in the nose, a little sidekicked. And
Speaker 1: that was the first time he broke it was in
Speaker 1: the mask. I remember his blood on the mask everything.
Speaker 1: And I went to the back and some EMTs came
Speaker 1: in and checked me out because I saw blood poured
Speaker 1: out my face, and Greg got the guys come chick me,
Speaker 1: took the mask off. The guys like, didn't you just wrestle?
Speaker 1: For're sure? A good guy said, yeah, that guy pissed
Speaker 1: me off. That guy with the ponytail, that RBD guy
Speaker 1: pissed me off. So I put this stuff on the
Speaker 1: fight him. You see what he did. So I'm even
Speaker 1: more mad now and then and the mts are like, really,
Speaker 1: So that was like the first time Rob broke my
Speaker 1: nose the first and how many times after did he?
Speaker 1: The next time was in ECW the first time we
Speaker 1: tried the vand terminator in Kansas City. Okay, okay, I
Speaker 1: put my hands up like this, thinking that would be safe,
Speaker 1: and he hid it and instead of going flat my face,
Speaker 1: it went points like that came down on me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and all I remember is a blackness, then a bright
Speaker 1: light or no, it was a bright light. Then it
Speaker 1: got dark. My eyes. Also, I was red. I climbed out.
Speaker 1: I was crawling down. Here comes Corino and Victory. He
Speaker 1: was supposed to do like an interference thing. I'm just
Speaker 1: crawling past them. I'm like, you guys, go do what
Speaker 1: you gotta do. I'm out, no joke. And then the
Speaker 1: next the next taping we did, I think was in
Speaker 1: Poughkeepsie at that center there and I had a black
Speaker 1: guys and everything else, and so what they basically did
Speaker 1: they have the wrestle what me and Karina? They were
Speaker 1: just putting me and him together, and so we went
Speaker 1: up and put the sharpshooters on two guys. I went
Speaker 1: out with tape on my nose and we put it
Speaker 1: over because it was there after the pay per view,
Speaker 1: but it ended up working well TV wise that the
Speaker 1: fans on my face all busted up after Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I broke my nose in Virginia because Sandman I had
Speaker 1: to pull him and I know, I had to grab
Speaker 1: one of their legs and pull them off the top.
Speaker 1: Said man was going to do his flippy flop thing,
Speaker 1: but instead of going through the table, they went backwards
Speaker 1: out of the ring and kicked me in the face
Speaker 1: out and I brew and then I had a spot,
Speaker 1: remember Chili Willie. I was supposed to run in and
Speaker 1: cane him, and then we were supposed to do a
Speaker 1: dance off or something, and I said, we're not dancing,
Speaker 1: and I just kept hitting him and they had to
Speaker 1: stick tampons up my nose, I remember, and I had
Speaker 1: the black eye gimmick. The next day we had to
Speaker 1: go to the arena and here I am with these
Speaker 1: black guys. But they did make up to make it
Speaker 1: look really, I know. The next night, I can't remember.
Speaker 1: I think we were in Wichita and I wanted to
Speaker 1: do something but they were like, nah, no, it's only
Speaker 1: house shows. My face was all swollen, black and blue
Speaker 1: hole nine yards, but it was like okay, at least
Speaker 1: I knew on the pay per view, I went, I
Speaker 1: did this number to protect my face and my brick.
Speaker 1: But he ain't breaking my nose exactly. I thought about it.
Speaker 1: Have broke my nose like that on the pay per
Speaker 1: view and it would have been a bloody mess that
Speaker 1: you know. So he did not make the Elks log show.
Speaker 1: The Elkslodge show was later in the year, so you
Speaker 1: weren't on it. So he's right. He did not wrestle
Speaker 1: in Queen's No No, I just checked the whole entire
Speaker 1: year of two thousand guys were talking the hell was he?
Speaker 1: Where were you? The only thing to think I might
Speaker 1: have missed that because when we did the Hammerstein Ballroom,
Speaker 1: this was another time Rob hurt me. We were I
Speaker 1: think we're a main event or sent my main that
Speaker 1: night and the first like minute two minutes of the match,
Speaker 1: we did his uh. We dropped me in the guard
Speaker 1: rail outside and we jumped on the apron and do
Speaker 1: the leg spot. He dropped me on the guard rail.
Speaker 1: He didn't drop me belly. He dropped me. Ribs bruised
Speaker 1: like or cracked. Actually I think I remember right, one
Speaker 1: or two ribs on my side. And we still went
Speaker 1: another eighteen minutes where everything I did, I picked him up.
Speaker 1: I remember one time I dropped outside the ring first spot,
Speaker 1: so I picked him up, dropped him. I collapsed after
Speaker 1: everything I did, I collapsed because I couldn't breathe move,
Speaker 1: and like I said, I ended about I think I
Speaker 1: had two cracked ribs and a bruised rib and spent
Speaker 1: I think I spent about four hours in the emergency
Speaker 1: room that night in a New York City Emergency Room.
Speaker 1: But the cool thing was, it's like maybe because they
Speaker 1: put me in an ambulance, took me there, and probably
Speaker 1: about thirty minutes afterwards, Justin McCauley came with Rob to
Speaker 1: the show SVD and Rob came in and they spent
Speaker 1: the next two three hours with me. They brought my gear,
Speaker 1: brought me stuff and everything else I can change outup
Speaker 1: on any tube. I couldn't move, and they were doing
Speaker 1: all cat scans all this stuff on me because we
Speaker 1: flying out the next day. Didn't want me to get
Speaker 1: on a plane and my liver rupture sure or whatever
Speaker 1: because I bruise was I think the bruise was on
Speaker 1: my left side, but yeah, that was something that I think.
Speaker 1: And then after that, for about the next three four,
Speaker 1: maybe five weeks, I couldn't work. I couldn't work because
Speaker 1: my ribs are bad. So you missed it a hundred
Speaker 1: percent right on the timeline. August twenty six, two thousand,
Speaker 1: Hammerstein Ballroom, Rob Van Damn, Scottie Anton, and it aired
Speaker 1: on September ninth, So that leads exactly to why he
Speaker 1: missed the Okay, well, hey, that's great, that's what he
Speaker 1: was still with us. I was like, why weren't you
Speaker 1: at the show? But I was there. I think I
Speaker 1: remember Paul flew me into a couple of shows even
Speaker 1: though I couldn't work do either some running stuff. I
Speaker 1: couldn't do a match, but I could do some things.
Speaker 1: I could be seeing but not good. I could actually
Speaker 1: do anything. Yeah, I could do the clap. You could
Speaker 1: do the clap, you know, I could give I could
Speaker 1: give the clap as we would say back then, not
Speaker 1: do the clap, but I would give it. Yes, I
Speaker 1: want to backtrack a minute. So we were talking about
Speaker 1: the first visit when you came as just a spectator.
Speaker 1: You were friends with Robin and damn you met everybody
Speaker 1: at the Vibe school. Blah blah blah blah blah. You
Speaker 1: were doing great in WCW. At this point you said
Speaker 1: you were tag champs. Right, that's a blast. Okay, did
Speaker 1: you did you look around and say this may be
Speaker 1: somewhere in the future, I would wouldn't mind working at
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure your pay was better for mister
Speaker 1: Turner than it was for mister Here's a little fact
Speaker 1: for you so you won't think that. When they brought
Speaker 1: me in, remember I was in Memphis making I guarantee
Speaker 1: forty bucks a night, working six nights a week. But
Speaker 1: we always whether if you were like opening match in
Speaker 1: the car, you might've got like you got if the
Speaker 1: houses were good, you got bonus money in Memphis. Okay,
Speaker 1: So about two weeks later, as my first check came in,
Speaker 1: and I was for the first month, I was like
Speaker 1: first or second match and sit fans that know who
Speaker 1: I was type of thing because I wasn't some major
Speaker 1: guy coming in. And so when I went from Memphis
Speaker 1: to WCW, Jenny Ingle had been calling me up a
Speaker 1: couple of times. I actually put to Kevin Sullivan on
Speaker 1: the phone. I said, Kevin, you realize I'm here in
Speaker 1: Memphis making no money, starving. What kind of guarantee can
Speaker 1: I get to come in WCW. And he basically said,
Speaker 1: I'll get back with you next week. Everything was a
Speaker 1: week week week, I'll get back with you next week,
Speaker 1: get back to you next week. On everything was happening,
Speaker 1: and he finally called me up, or was Jane who
Speaker 1: called me up in Louisville and said, well, we can
Speaker 1: get you a guarantee of six hundred bucks a week
Speaker 1: under a ninety day trial basis being Marcus's tag team partner. Like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm making two hundred bucks a week right now, plus
Speaker 1: a little extra three hundred bucks maybe every couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: you know type thing. So six hundred bucks of weeks
Speaker 1: is a lot better than making two hundred and I'll
Speaker 1: be with WCW. You never know what happens. So for
Speaker 1: the first from August until December, I was making hundred
Speaker 1: bucks a week, okay, uh as one after World Tag
Speaker 1: Team Champions, making every Nitro shots, making a bunch of
Speaker 1: house shows now because we were the World Tack Team
Speaker 1: Champions and but and I'm making nothing nothing, So don't
Speaker 1: say the money was different. Money became different. But for
Speaker 1: the first four months I wasn't making squat and that
Speaker 1: actually went until March of ninety six before Bisha finally
Speaker 1: gave me a raise, wow, which went to fifty grand
Speaker 1: a year. That my my in ninety six. Yeah and me,
Speaker 1: I had me and Marcus on every Nitro, every house
Speaker 1: show because we were the only babyface taxing the ad
Speaker 1: until Seiners came in and rewards came in. Nasty boys,
Speaker 1: you kind of work, He'll face that type thing with everybody,
Speaker 1: but uh, we were the only good guys they had,
Speaker 1: so they had on every house show with Heat or
Speaker 1: with h Dick Slator Buck house Buck, those guys. So
Speaker 1: I wasn't making any money for about the first year
Speaker 1: and a half I was with WCW, and then I
Speaker 1: finally got a nice six figure deal for the last
Speaker 1: three years I was there. Okay, well you got something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was nice. Remember we did a toured Germany in
Speaker 1: ninety six, and I was basically living off either Bagwell
Speaker 1: or Lex with their credit cards, being able to eat
Speaker 1: because again I was even at that time making fifty
Speaker 1: grand a year. When you're on the road have to
Speaker 1: half the year half the time, you're basically making twenty
Speaker 1: five hundred bucks, you know, or twenty five grand a
Speaker 1: year home expenses and road expenses. I was going to say,
Speaker 1: did did they pay for your hotel and airfare at
Speaker 1: least air? Yes? Hotel? No? Ah terrible which could which
Speaker 1: basically well, the cool thing was being Marcus's partner the
Speaker 1: first night tro Remember Lex came in on that first
Speaker 1: night tro in Minneapolis. He was a surprise guy that
Speaker 1: kind of came in. Him and Sting were friends and
Speaker 1: Marcus and Sting were friends. So by OUs mosis, I
Speaker 1: became friends with Alex and Sting and was traveling with
Speaker 1: Alexis Sting. So they both had the Lincoln town Car,
Speaker 1: so I was a driver in the car the whole time.
Speaker 1: I messed up one to this Sting off if through
Speaker 1: play golf one day and didn't drive. We were in
Speaker 1: Orlando and we had night join Tampa and didn't drive.
Speaker 1: And it was the first like real road trip that
Speaker 1: I was with those guys. And long story short, Mark
Speaker 1: got the mark, me both in the back seat. Let's
Speaker 1: got in the passenger's seat, and Sting drove. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: face is the face I made when arn Anderson came
Speaker 1: up to me and ringed me cust me out. As
Speaker 1: soon as we got the building, Sting stopped talking. Because
Speaker 1: we went from Orlando to Tampa. My thought was, maybe
Speaker 1: they know how to get there, so I'll just let
Speaker 1: them drive. It's a short trip. Or maybe they're not
Speaker 1: how to get there quick to the building. All this stuff. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: I know Sting was livid. He was pissed. Say get
Speaker 1: in the front. He didn't say work, he just got in.
Speaker 1: I don't again, I don't know why He didn't say, Riggs,
Speaker 1: you're driving, get up here. He just got in. I
Speaker 1: don't know why, but for some reason he just let
Speaker 1: things happen the way that happened. We got to the
Speaker 1: building and Sting disappeared whenever and I got pulled by
Speaker 1: Arn Anderson quickly to the office. Nail, well, wasn't the office,
Speaker 1: it was it was Arn. He didn't go to the office.
Speaker 1: He was. Arn was like Sting's wrong. I guess he
Speaker 1: saw Sting was mad or wasn't really talking. Kind of
Speaker 1: asked was and from what I know is he said,
Speaker 1: Riggs didn't drive, And a little pissed, Arne pulled me aside,
Speaker 1: said do you know who you're traveling with? These guys
Speaker 1: are the top guys with the company, Sting and Luger,
Speaker 1: biggest teams in the business, and you are riding with them.
Speaker 1: They embraced you. They and there was a bunch of
Speaker 1: f bombs. It's a bunch of you know, every old
Speaker 1: curse words that could be coming at me. But basically
Speaker 1: that night, when the show ended, I had got in
Speaker 1: the keys, pulled the car up to the back of
Speaker 1: the building, to the back doors. When they opened the door,
Speaker 1: and I would already put their bags in the car.
Speaker 1: I was in there. Car started, doors open. We get
Speaker 1: in and the nasty boys want us to go to
Speaker 1: a piano bar for after, you know, for just drinks,
Speaker 1: socializes in whatever after the show. We're in Tampa, their hometown,
Speaker 1: their their home. And to make this long story short,
Speaker 1: we get there. We're driving, we can't find the thing,
Speaker 1: and we had this little thing going on, like from
Speaker 1: playing golf and stuff together. It was like, it's a zany,
Speaker 1: it's a zippy. It's wild and wacky. It's a little crazy,
Speaker 1: all these little things that we've seeing each other when
Speaker 1: something got silly and there, I think Lex with this
Speaker 1: is getting zany. Marcus, No, it's zippy. This is wild
Speaker 1: there and went, nah, this is just stupid and staying
Speaker 1: to set out this belly laugh, just guttural laugh, and
Speaker 1: he went, I was so mad at you before, but
Speaker 1: that right there was so genuine, so real that it
Speaker 1: wasn't even our game. It was just you right now.
Speaker 1: So we can't play it. Oh, it's forgiven. We're all good.
Speaker 1: So it only lasted an evening. The heat it lasted
Speaker 1: a couple hours. Yeah, that is nothing. You didn't have
Speaker 1: to go to a wrestler quarter or anything over. We
Speaker 1: didn't have Russell's Court. No, we didn't have an undertaker
Speaker 1: who ruled the roost. We just see w CW at
Speaker 1: the time was very, very cliquish. It wasn't like a team.
Speaker 1: It was like you had you know, especially after nightro
Speaker 1: started and when the nWo guys came in with Nash
Speaker 1: and Haul, those guys they had their plays. Hogan had
Speaker 1: his place, singing legs, kind of dressed with everybody, and
Speaker 1: you had to you know, everything was still very click
Speaker 1: a shad. Me, Marcus and Lex were like a little group.
Speaker 1: Alex right work traveled with us, Norton Macho when he
Speaker 1: came in to ride with us. You know, we'd all
Speaker 1: try to carry ran together, but there were other groups
Speaker 1: just kind of went their way and they carry ran together.
Speaker 1: It was just friends being friends. But you know, I
Speaker 1: was one of the lucky ones in one sense, I
Speaker 1: was making no money for the first year and a
Speaker 1: half I was there right and the first time we
Speaker 1: did the Orlando tapings, me and Market stayed at the
Speaker 1: I think it was a day's in or something where
Speaker 1: we could stay get a room. The boys had a
Speaker 1: room for twenty five bucks a night, you know, twelve
Speaker 1: to fifty apiece, you know, not bad. Last came to
Speaker 1: pick us up the first night for our first morning
Speaker 1: to go work out and then go to the TV
Speaker 1: tapings and stuff. He walked in, looked at our room
Speaker 1: and said, you guys are never staying there again. We're like, okay.
Speaker 1: So the very next time we went there, three months later,
Speaker 1: we did every three months or two weeks at time. Uh,
Speaker 1: let's got a condo, a three bedroom condo on the
Speaker 1: golf course that we played with that Marriott. Sting stayed
Speaker 1: at the Marriotts at the big the big ocean front
Speaker 1: of where. But when he said the big main, the
Speaker 1: main place, let's got its a condo to stay at
Speaker 1: and he flipped the bill, all I had to do
Speaker 1: was drive. How nice and we played golf together. But
Speaker 1: so well, your ass never got in the back seat
Speaker 1: again after that, because yeah, that's what I've never never
Speaker 1: even the time I drive in Yakoba, Washington and a
Speaker 1: uh a house show a travel was staying. I was
Speaker 1: driving the car then, and I mean so we went
Speaker 1: to the World Card place, I was Sting got keys,
Speaker 1: I took keys. I was like, uh, and this was
Speaker 1: like in ninety seven, I was still driving even years later,
Speaker 1: even when he wasn't driving, like yeah, wow, never went
Speaker 1: through that again. So so you know you had you
Speaker 1: had a good career in w CW Right. It's a
Speaker 1: good run. Yeah, sure, but their run comes to an
Speaker 1: end like all of ours do. And what what do
Speaker 1: you do? Do you pick up the phone? Do you
Speaker 1: call Rob and say, Hey, do you think I can
Speaker 1: come down to E C dub and try and get
Speaker 1: a spot? Do you call paul like how how did
Speaker 1: you end up with us? When you did? For those
Speaker 1: who don't know, I'm trying to remember I was living
Speaker 1: in Atlanta. Mm hmmm, And I think I remember either
Speaker 1: I called Rob or Rob called me and said, hey,
Speaker 1: we're in you know, we're in Atlanta. You want to
Speaker 1: come to the show, or you want to call him
Speaker 1: day and you know kind of comes to the show.
Speaker 1: I never remember. I never asked, hey, Rob, do you
Speaker 1: think you can talk to Paulie about hiring me? All
Speaker 1: I remember is going to the show, watching the show.
Speaker 1: I think Eric Wattson just started with you and a
Speaker 1: couple other WW guys. I've been let go that we're
Speaker 1: in Atlanta. Were either getting try out matches looking whatever.
Speaker 1: I can either remember Rob saying something to Tommy or
Speaker 1: Tommy saying something to Rob with Scott Steele, and I
Speaker 1: can remember Tommy came up to me and said, hey,
Speaker 1: what's going on with you in w CW till I
Speaker 1: was done? Blah blah blah, And I said, I got
Speaker 1: about six weeks of paychecks coming in. Still he goes, well,
Speaker 1: when will that end? I said, I think it's like
Speaker 1: in February, goes you want to start? Then said do what?
Speaker 1: He goes, you want to start with us? He said, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd love to. I mean, it was one of those
Speaker 1: things where it was like nobody really asked. Tommy just said,
Speaker 1: you want to start damn right place, right time. That's
Speaker 1: what it was. I mean, it was really And I
Speaker 1: think it was just because that that first time I
Speaker 1: met everybody, I wasn't an ass, I didn't shot as,
Speaker 1: I wasn't a jerk, I wasn't an idiot. I was
Speaker 1: pretty respectful, and I just had always carried that reputation
Speaker 1: when I get it everybody. And I think that's what
Speaker 1: Tommy wanted to an address room. He wanted, you know,
Speaker 1: he knew I could work and I think he thought
Speaker 1: that the American male thing especially would get the ECW
Speaker 1: fans riled up, and it did. I remember the first
Speaker 1: time I carried rob out on my shoulders at the arena.
Speaker 1: They were they were American mail. You guys, suck but
Speaker 1: back your hair riggs. How did the clap come about? Wow?
Speaker 1: I remember where we were because I loved the I
Speaker 1: love that gimmick that popped me every time, Like I
Speaker 1: thought that was so fucking funny. Now the song that
Speaker 1: Harry Slash made for me that popped me, Okay, because
Speaker 1: they actually because PAULI actually got him to create an
Speaker 1: actual song for me, which popped me. Because I didn't
Speaker 1: know what I was going to use. I remember at
Speaker 1: the township in Columbia, South Carolina. I didn't know what
Speaker 1: ring music I was gonna use. I was working with
Speaker 1: somebody and a reno writ me with the Ice Ice
Speaker 1: Baby and then the ice song to do the crap
Speaker 1: too that dun dun, dun, dun dun, and I came
Speaker 1: out to that, and I remember is I was like,
Speaker 1: I didn't know what I was coming out to, but
Speaker 1: that's what I came out to. But to answer your question,
Speaker 1: I remember what was it. I can't remember zactly where
Speaker 1: it was, but paul E came to me and sat
Speaker 1: me down, and he's the only booker to ever doce
Speaker 1: with me. He sat me down and said, Okay, this
Speaker 1: is what I kind of want to do with it.
Speaker 1: We're bringing in your Rob's best friend. It might have
Speaker 1: been at the arena that first time I was there
Speaker 1: carrying Rob on the shoulders. He said, what I want
Speaker 1: to do is bring you out is Rob's best friend.
Speaker 1: Then I'm going to turn you on. Rob. Some people
Speaker 1: may see it coming, but it'll be one of those
Speaker 1: things where we can get you to be a heel
Speaker 1: because I know you can work well, Rob, I know
Speaker 1: you worked well before, and to play out the American
Speaker 1: Mails because I know you can work. But your character
Speaker 1: is kind of weak. And that was one thing. I
Speaker 1: didn't really have a persona. I didn't have a character
Speaker 1: kind of like you were a Queen of extreme. I
Speaker 1: didn't have that. Rob was a whole effing show and
Speaker 1: everything else. I never really developed that. In my time.
Speaker 1: I developed great ring work. But in that time, even
Speaker 1: the good time I had in w CW, I was
Speaker 1: American Mail fluck and then the guy with the mirror,
Speaker 1: which I hated, but it was one of those things
Speaker 1: that I wanted to keep the eye patch and be
Speaker 1: a snake Clifkin type thing like the iPad. I wanted
Speaker 1: to keep that. Terry Taylor went, nah, I want you to,
Speaker 1: you know, lose eye patch. We're gonna make you a
Speaker 1: good We're gonna make you back to a pretty boy
Speaker 1: and make you a bad guy from the rooster. Okay,
Speaker 1: thanks Terry. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I had he with him
Speaker 1: a bunch of times in w CW, but other stories
Speaker 1: I'll tell you a little bit maybe, but Paul Ye
Speaker 1: basically sat down. So we're gonna do this. We're gonna
Speaker 1: turn your rub and what I want to do is
Speaker 1: get the clap going. That was one thing that separated
Speaker 1: you and Marcus was a clap and we could say
Speaker 1: that you're giving the fans the clap, and I went,
Speaker 1: I had almost the same look with Jimmy Hart and
Speaker 1: the ring music. I was kind of like, going, clap
Speaker 1: its brilliant though, but after but my first thought was
Speaker 1: you know, the st D thing, and then I started thinking,
Speaker 1: but my mentality was w c W still in a
Speaker 1: cent of like character, I went, that's really probably gonna
Speaker 1: get some good steam here. And I went because I
Speaker 1: because I started again learning of the fancy. I remember
Speaker 1: that that that first time you were around the fans,
Speaker 1: you feel the energy they give you. When you actually
Speaker 1: getting the ring in front of them, you really feel
Speaker 1: the energy that they have. Sure, just being in the
Speaker 1: arenas as a fan, I saw it, but to feel
Speaker 1: it when I carried Rob out again. The fans will
Speaker 1: giving me the old American males. Y'all suck, but forgot
Speaker 1: your hair rigs. This kind of thing I can, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: that was the thing I kept here. I'm glad you
Speaker 1: hear da da dah and uh. But then you know, Paul,
Speaker 1: he was liking. He goes, I know your work let
Speaker 1: you over, but I know we would give you the
Speaker 1: clap that would really get over. And then we're going
Speaker 1: to do this and this will we maybe put you
Speaker 1: a karina. We'll have your heel do this, And he
Speaker 1: actually laid out about a six month plan of what
Speaker 1: could happen and how the clap came about and everything.
Speaker 1: You'd be so egotistical with it, he goes, and that
Speaker 1: will give you something that fans will either love or hate,
Speaker 1: and they'll be back and forth. You can maybe turn
Speaker 1: your baby face. Can you imagine, like with al Stow
Speaker 1: with the head when that became baby faced, all the
Speaker 1: mac and heads are out there, He goes, can you
Speaker 1: imagine all the e W when you get them doing this?
Speaker 1: That'd be insane? Didn't that make you feel good? Though?
Speaker 1: Because he here you are, your first night in and
Speaker 1: he's laying out a six month plan. Yeah. He was
Speaker 1: the first promoter, booker, yeah, boss, whatever you want to
Speaker 1: call them, who actually sat down and said just what
Speaker 1: we're going to do. Because like when me and Marcus
Speaker 1: were became the tag champs, they put us together. Our
Speaker 1: first match was gets Regal and eating and they made
Speaker 1: me look like a tenure veteran. Tag match was great.
Speaker 1: They were so they were so professional, made me look good.
Speaker 1: Of course I could do it anything they asked me
Speaker 1: to do. And then it was the and that was
Speaker 1: like August, the last week of August when we did
Speaker 1: those tapings there, we did like two matches. Then we
Speaker 1: did a video with us on horseback that never got used.
Speaker 1: Then we did a couple of other things. We got
Speaker 1: to Atlanta, we did a video in black and white
Speaker 1: that you saw with the at the Furback Museum. So
Speaker 1: they started spending all this money on us about you know,
Speaker 1: with these videos and making our characters look good, and
Speaker 1: then they put the tag straps on us. But nobody
Speaker 1: really told us about tax traps until the night of
Speaker 1: the Fallborough pay per view when we worked the Nasty Boys,
Speaker 1: So nobody was telling us about anything they were going
Speaker 1: to do. Yeah, So it was like, no, this is
Speaker 1: w c W, a big time company like you said
Speaker 1: that Ted Turner company, and no planning that they actually
Speaker 1: told usamething that was going to go on. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: then like when I worked Marcus at the pay per
Speaker 1: view that sold out, he turned on me, became buff
Speaker 1: I found out I was dressing him the pay per
Speaker 1: view from his girlfriend at the gym up to me
Speaker 1: and said, oh, you and Marcus are gonna have a
Speaker 1: hell of a match. I'm like, what do you mean,
Speaker 1: because you're wrestling them at the pay per view? What
Speaker 1: did tell you who Marcus? He went at the gym yet,
Speaker 1: I think because she came in, but he had to
Speaker 1: have known before that day at the gym. I have
Speaker 1: no idea. That's weird. Really, I have no idea. When
Speaker 1: he found out it might have been the same day.
Speaker 1: He hadn't gotten touching me yet, and I think the
Speaker 1: pay per view was only like maybe three away. I
Speaker 1: was like, really, all I knew was he turned on
Speaker 1: me that night in Tampa And that was a fly
Speaker 1: by Night Decision two where he was supposed because they
Speaker 1: had had us doing all these little goofy spots where
Speaker 1: he kept bumping to each other, screwing up matches, screwing
Speaker 1: up finishes, causing each other to lose matches, back and forth,
Speaker 1: so people knew something was going to happen, but not
Speaker 1: really anything of consequence yet. Yeah, and so that night
Speaker 1: in Tampa, I was supposed to cause Marcus to lose
Speaker 1: the Steve Rigal on a TV title match, but Nash
Speaker 1: came in and said, no, we aren't doing that, Mark,
Speaker 1: You're becoming the nWo tonight. So Kevin Nash came in
Speaker 1: and scrapped everything. And that was a paid back to
Speaker 1: Marcus for being able to when Kevin Nash was doing
Speaker 1: ODZ and Vinie Vegas and stuff, Marcus and then we're
Speaker 1: travel makes Marcus was making like one fifty year and
Speaker 1: now she'd making like seventy five grand a year, and
Speaker 1: Mark helped pay travel expensis kind of me. We became partners.
Speaker 1: Got you when Nash came in, got a little bit
Speaker 1: of a rug, a little bit of control and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. Said Marcus, you're the first guy turning bringing
Speaker 1: in them. It worked out good for both of us
Speaker 1: in the sets. Gave both of those pay per view
Speaker 1: matches against each other. The kind of elevated both of
Speaker 1: us a little bit. Yeah, gave was something to do
Speaker 1: when they really weren't doing anything with us. But yeah,
Speaker 1: going back to Paul, but yeah, when Paul sent me
Speaker 1: down and said just what we want you for six months,
Speaker 1: that made me think this guy's really you know, he
Speaker 1: didn't just bring me in to use me for whatever.
Speaker 1: He brought me in with an idea. Yeah, very cool,
Speaker 1: you see. And I like that because we had on
Speaker 1: Luke from the Bushwhackers and his story. Because they did
Speaker 1: like a double shot with us, like for a weekend
Speaker 1: or something that that had to be a blast. Oh.
Speaker 1: They nice guys, but when they came in it was
Speaker 1: instant heat because they came in as Dudley's and they
Speaker 1: wore the shirt and they got booed out of the building.
Speaker 1: But their their concept was they thought they were going
Speaker 1: to be mainstays, and here they Paul said, oh, we're
Speaker 1: not going to use you after this or what however,
Speaker 1: he told the story, but Luke was under the impression
Speaker 1: that they were going to be like ECW people now
Speaker 1: Wow work with us, and he had no clue. So
Speaker 1: when they came in, they thought they were going to
Speaker 1: be with us for the long haul. And here that
Speaker 1: we go on tour wherever we went the next week
Speaker 1: and he's waiting for a ticket and there's no ticket.
Speaker 1: So Paul saw something in you for sure, because that
Speaker 1: you know, that doesn't happen with every single person. Well, Plus,
Speaker 1: he put me against Rob and me with Rob. Plus
Speaker 1: we had a legit friendship for years already, and people
Speaker 1: knew of it at least a little bit here and
Speaker 1: there along the way. We didn't have the Internet back then,
Speaker 1: but you still people knew that we were friends. God yeah, real,
Speaker 1: for real. I don't think a lot of this would
Speaker 1: have survived back in the nineties until now. I think
Speaker 1: that's why all the guys play video games and stuff
Speaker 1: now instead of being the idiots we were back in
Speaker 1: the nineties. Different world today, much different. The American mails
Speaker 1: have been canceled for Sure Culture, I would love to
Speaker 1: hear so much more. We're gonna have to have you
Speaker 1: on again. But I do want to ask you, will
Speaker 1: you stay with us and do another segment for Patreon? Sure,
Speaker 1: I'm telling me, sure, You're Your pointing is so perfect
Speaker 1: on the screen. Mind's like I was pointing to you.
Speaker 1: We're gonna stay and work with him. But I want
Speaker 1: to tell the people, are you doing anything these days?
Speaker 1: What are you up to? Where can they find you?
Speaker 1: Give everybody a little insight on what Riggs is doing today.
Speaker 1: Rigs ain't doing too much instead of being retired. Okay,
Speaker 1: Well that he made investments with a little bit of
Speaker 1: money he had going on time. He made the right investments.
Speaker 1: When he got divorced, he had the wife all the property,
Speaker 1: and one sense, you can have all the gimmicks, all
Speaker 1: the stuff as long as you don't take the money.
Speaker 1: And she went yay and I went bye. I enjoyed right.
Speaker 1: You're on the beach or you're near the beach, because
Speaker 1: every time you post the picture, I get so pissed.
Speaker 1: I'm like, look at this guy. He's on the beach.
Speaker 1: He's showing sunsets. The weather's warm, and I'm freezing pretty
Speaker 1: much on the beach. Yeah, I kindose like with about
Speaker 1: a nifelow walk over a it used to be through
Speaker 1: the dunes before they put the little walkways up there.
Speaker 1: But okay, about about fifty yards from the beach, living large. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: where where can they find you? If people want to
Speaker 1: see your sunset pictures? Where you're out on Twitter? Uh?
Speaker 1: Just on Twitter real Scottie Riggs. Okay, got the little
Speaker 1: blue check mark? You should get one sometime. I don't
Speaker 1: know why I have been trying, and Verified is like, nope,
Speaker 1: we're not verifying any That makes sense because you're I
Speaker 1: remember the first time I want to saw you on there,
Speaker 1: and all sudden you had like maybe a couple of
Speaker 1: thousand followers. You know you had ten thousand followers, you
Speaker 1: know you had thirty I'm like, man, she blew up quick.
Speaker 1: I only joined like three years ago because I was
Speaker 1: doing one of the Rustle cons and they're like everybody,
Speaker 1: Daphne Shannon. She kept telling me you have to get
Speaker 1: on Twitter because when you do, you know you're coming back.
Speaker 1: Because I had taken like the longest hiatus to have
Speaker 1: my kids and stuff right and She's like, you got
Speaker 1: to get back on because you have to promote it.
Speaker 1: I said, no, one's gonna want to follow me, and
Speaker 1: oh my god, ding ding ding, and I was I
Speaker 1: started to cry because I was like, oh, I'm so old,
Speaker 1: Why are they? Why are they following me? You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? But I've been on for three years
Speaker 1: and they won't verify me, and I just I don't
Speaker 1: know why. Well, the only reason I got verified wasn't
Speaker 1: because I was Scottie Riggs. It's because I actually had
Speaker 1: a pretty good agent from score Sports and they're not
Speaker 1: even on Twitter anymore. That all remember is the first
Speaker 1: person that kind of wrapped me from there didn't do
Speaker 1: anything for me. The next person who read me. I
Speaker 1: asked her once and she said, oh yeah, I'll take
Speaker 1: care of that in the heartbeat because I was. I
Speaker 1: was very fun. Their little thing, which is like a
Speaker 1: score Sports was like an Instagram thing you could post pictures,
Speaker 1: but it was all athletes that I was doing. And
Speaker 1: she got me verified on there within about three weeks,
Speaker 1: and that was the only reason I got verified. I've
Speaker 1: been trying. Believe me, I have one more source that
Speaker 1: I'm waiting on and if she can do it for me,
Speaker 1: then perfect. If not, I will never I know there
Speaker 1: was a guy who got the Bobby heenan fake account
Speaker 1: that got it verified and I asked the guy about
Speaker 1: because I asked the guy would try to get you verified?
Speaker 1: And he said that getting to Bobby heenan fake account
Speaker 1: verified cost him his abilities because he went to bat
Speaker 1: form for whoever he knew through Twitter, and when they
Speaker 1: found out it was a fake account, it wasn't the
Speaker 1: count and they say shut it down. He goes, made
Speaker 1: that cost me my connection. There's people on there that
Speaker 1: that are fans that that are not in the entertainment
Speaker 1: business like they have. They have two hundred and eighty followers,
Speaker 1: they have a blue check mark, and I was just like, Okay,
Speaker 1: good for you. But yeah, I mean it's it's goofy.
Speaker 1: But again, that's that's the one cool thing about getting
Speaker 1: that done. I've been on I got on like about
Speaker 1: the time I got done with Facebook. I got on
Speaker 1: Twitter and that was thanks to RVD. I do think
Speaker 1: it was back in twenty twelve. Oh. I mentioned something
Speaker 1: to Amy. He told me, he goes, dude, get on Twitter. MI,
Speaker 1: what's Twitter? Yeah? I said, I what was I going
Speaker 1: to At the time, I was changing shitty diapers and
Speaker 1: you know, taking care of the kids. Like, what am
Speaker 1: I going to tweet about? I just changed another poop diaper? Like,
Speaker 1: what's to read that. I wasn't in the business at
Speaker 1: that time. I wasn't doing anything professionally, so I didn't
Speaker 1: think I needed an account. You know, there was nothing
Speaker 1: to tweet. What am I going to tweet? I mean
Speaker 1: that that kind of what I do. I did for
Speaker 1: for a while there. Like you said, I did a
Speaker 1: bunch of interviews and stuff like two Bad Power Trip
Speaker 1: and everything. When I first got on there. Yeah give them,
Speaker 1: you know, I give some props. But when I first
Speaker 1: got on there, it was like I had the same thing,
Speaker 1: and so people started to ask me. All I got
Speaker 1: questions all the time by American mails or flaught the
Speaker 1: iPads is sitting the other And so when people first
Speaker 1: and Dreamer and Dustin Roads and Van Dam and all
Speaker 1: the guys that were Habou check marks and knew who
Speaker 1: I was, a legit guy started putting out this real
Speaker 1: Scott of Reiges is the real guy. Yeah, give him
Speaker 1: a follow, right, That's that's what I had to do
Speaker 1: because nobody believed because I had been gone for years
Speaker 1: and nobody believed it was me. And I was like,
Speaker 1: get it, it's kind of me, you know, by check
Speaker 1: mark or not. I'm out there, I'm trying. I'm hustling.
Speaker 1: You know, we're all carmies. You're working, you're doing good,
Speaker 1: you're kicking working. We're working. But we're gonna keep working.
Speaker 1: We're gonna keep you with us. We're gonna go to
Speaker 1: our Patreon Chad, what are we doing this week? So
Speaker 1: we are going to look at some of the worst
Speaker 1: places to get caught having sex. So I think one
Speaker 1: of the American males is a great person to be
Speaker 1: joining us on that riggs. If you would like to,
Speaker 1: and if you wouldn't you you are allowed to keep
Speaker 1: your mouth shut. But it's a list and we're gonna
Speaker 1: go yes, but don't say yeah, come to Patreona. But
Speaker 1: other than that, we're going to run some classic Patreon
Speaker 1: this week. Because of my move, we got to cut
Speaker 1: our recording session a little short, so we got some
Speaker 1: of the best I'm picking the best in the business
Speaker 1: that we have. Camera. Now, you're good, you're good, you're good,
Speaker 1: you're good. You get we I can hear you better
Speaker 1: than I think ninety five or ninety six percent of
Speaker 1: the guests we've ever had. I found ridiculously good. So
Speaker 1: barely hear you too, and that's why my face is
Speaker 1: so close to the screen. Turn your volume off all
Speaker 1: the way up. Don't worry about it. Don't take her
Speaker 1: with anything. He get a computer, don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: If you want to follow me, it don't happen. It's
Speaker 1: like you didn't need Twitter. I don't need a computer.
Speaker 1: What not get a computer for? I have an iPhone? True,
Speaker 1: I didn't get that until three years ago. I got
Speaker 1: you all right. If you want to follow me across
Speaker 1: the board on social media, it is at e c
Speaker 1: W daver Francine, join us on Patreon. Mister Scotty Riggs
Speaker 1: will be with us. And with that, that is a rap.