WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Patrick Crayton Edition 0:00:09.600 --> 0:00:12.120 The following He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:12.160 --> 0:00:23.079 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:26.920 Screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:44.400 Star in Friscott. It's another Tuesday edition of Talking Cowboys 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:48.120 here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Glad you're with us. 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:51.159 Throughout the course of the next hour, we'll be diving 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:55.840 into Mike McCarthy will be diving into the linebacker situation, 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:58.600 and then we'll also have a special guest. We'll look 0:00:58.640 --> 0:01:02.760 a little bit different in that final segment. Patrick Creighton, 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:06.600 former Cowboys wide receiver, joins us, a good friend of 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:10.639 Isaiah stand Back, our resident Super Bowl champion and Isaiah, 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:13.280 I don't know you've got You've got some trash talking 0:01:13.319 --> 0:01:15.559 to do after some bowling last night, so I'm looking 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:18.600 forward to that. But alongside Isaiah, you got myself, Kyle 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:21.240 Yeoman's Rob Phillips, heck my Harrison. We're glad to be 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:24.080 with you and guys before we kind of dive in 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:27.000 and get into the Dallas Cowboys, which we're gonna have 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:29.880 plenty of. Like I said, Mike McCarthy, linebackers. We've got 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:32.840 plenty of cowboys to dive into. I wanted to address 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:35.640 something really quickly, and much like all of you who 0:01:35.640 --> 0:01:39.880 are probably listening or watching this podcast, either live or 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:42.480 after it's recorded, you're just like me. You come to 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:44.959 these podcasts for a little bit of a distraction. You 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:47.760 come to hear about the Dallas Cowboys, you come to 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:50.000 get away from the world. And I promise you'll get 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:52.680 all of that, but that'll come in about five minutes. 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:56.480 But first, we simply wouldn't be human if we didn't 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:58.840 take a second to speak from the heart about some 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:01.040 of the events that have tired over the past couple 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:03.920 of days. And I wanted to start things out by 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:06.800 saying I have family and law enforcement. I pray for 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:11.400 them every single day because of how dangerous and how 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:15.080 unpredictable that their job could be throughout the course of 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:18.320 any given day, over the course of their career, and 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:20.440 what they choose to do for a living. But now 0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:25.080 also because of just a select few people, a very 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:27.919 select few people that are also in that line of business, 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:30.360 I also have to pray for friends of mine, and 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:33.639 this is something that I've been really thinking about over 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:36.440 the last couple of days. But They're not necessarily people 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:38.760 that I'm friends that I'm praying about because they have 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:43.799 dangerous jobs, or because they're maybe in front lines of 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:47.520 a potential pandemic that's been serving our country or our 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:51.480 world over the last couple of weeks, but rather because 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:55.480 they also have to go out into their daily worlds, 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:57.760 whether they're going on a job or they're going elsewhere, 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:01.160 fearing for their life just because of the color of 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:03.320 their own skin, because of the way that they're perceived 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:07.920 by a different race. And in a country that's founded 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:11.760 on its principles of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:14.560 that's not what that is. All three of those things 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:17.400 are not into the definition of what I just named, 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:19.320 because at the end of the day, all of these 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:22.680 protests that are happening throughout our country and even throughout 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:26.120 the world in some parts, it's not about black versus white. 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:28.880 It's not about cops or citizens. It's not about democrat 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:32.680 or Republican. It's about finally seeing each other as God's children, 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:35.280 and if you're not religious, if you're not religious at all, 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:37.800 just seeing each other as humans. And that's kind of 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:41.200 the biggest thing. It's to end racism finally, and get 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:43.320 rid of all of those voices that have been crying 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:46.800 out for years and years by hearing those voices first. 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:49.560 And that's what these all are about, so that no 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:53.000 man or woman should have to live in fear solely 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:54.920 because of the color of their skin. I just really 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:57.080 wanted to say that, if you're still listening, thank you 0:03:57.320 --> 0:04:00.600 for sticking around. I hope you speak out as well. 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:03.520 It's really scary for me as somebody who doesn't know 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:07.600 that struggle and doesn't always talk about their political beliefs 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:09.440 on air. I don't. I try and stay away from 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:11.480 it as much as possible on air, but we live 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:16.240 in crucial time. Secmo. Yeah, Kyle, I think what you 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:20.680 said was was spot on. I appreciate that what you said. 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:25.120 You know, I am just like everybody else when I've been, 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:28.720 you know, staring at my television watching a lot of 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:32.719 this unfold, and I just want to be completely blunt 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:38.560 and honest with you. The Floyd death was heartbreaking. It 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:41.520 was heartbreaking to see that play out over and over 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:46.040 and over and over again over the last week. It 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:49.600 breaks my heart as an African American. But I realized 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:52.560 and just having this platform, I think it's very important 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:56.320 that we address this issue and say something about it. 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:59.760 And I believe that there's a perception problem. You know, 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:02.839 I want her the term, you know, perception is reality. 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:05.799 But guys, a lot of times, as an African American, 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:10.039 your perception isn't my reality. And those are the things 0:05:10.120 --> 0:05:13.240 that we need to gather and talk about how you 0:05:13.400 --> 0:05:18.240 perceive African Americans. If I'm walking in and a parking 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:20.480 lot and there's a you know, white woman ahead of 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:22.600 me that rushes to her car to lock her doors 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:26.280 because she thinks that I'm going to do something to her, 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:30.040 that's not the perception. I'm just walking to my car. 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:33.280 And it's not my responsibility as an American to make 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:36.320 you feel comfortable about walking to your car, walking into 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:39.560 an elevator with you, and making you be say hello, 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:41.680 how are you, and be extra nice to you so 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:45.120 you feel disarmed by my presence. That's not what's That's 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:47.280 not what I'm gonna do. I'm an American, I'm a 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:50.600 taxpaying citizen just like everyone else. I expect to be 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:53.600 treated fairly. I expect for my children to grow up 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:55.600 in an environment where they don't have I don't have 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:59.120 to worry about their life, but that's not the reality 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:04.560 of the city. And so this perception that people have, 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:07.920 and especially when it comes down to law enforcement, and 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:10.160 I don't want to paint this with a broad brush, 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:14.880 because it is police brutality that needs to be talked about, 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:19.440 and the perception that I could possibly be an enemy 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:21.800 to them is something that we all need to sit 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:24.120 down and we could talk about. It is who we're 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:26.760 blue in the face, but there are policies and things 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:29.280 that need to change to that regard so that we 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:36.360 feel protected just like every other citizen. Yeah, heck, I know. 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:41.280 I'm always very outspoken when it comes to divide and 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:45.560 when it comes to mistreatment, abuse of power, all those 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:48.320 social issues. I am never want to be quiet. So 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:51.920 I shared something on my personal page, on my Instagram 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:55.159 page on Facebook the other day. And I'm usually really 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:58.800 strategic when I decide to speak, because it's hard to 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:03.760 really channel emotions um that that you that you that 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:05.840 you feel that you take on at a response of 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:09.080 seeing something like we all saw um you know, you 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:13.120 know the other the other week. And unfortunately, this isn't 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:16.120 the first time that we're seeing these things. Unfortunately, this 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:18.800 isn't the first time that these things are happening. They've 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:21.440 been happening for a long time. So, um, as I 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:24.960 mentioned before my personal page, these actions that you're seeing 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:27.560 from like like like how I said a select few, 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:31.960 it's it's it's built up, right, It's built up. It's 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:35.960 been accruing for years. UM. I have it, others have it. 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:39.720 You know, it really depends on on how mature you 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:44.120 are or how you decide to UM. I can't say 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:46.600 that one one way of of of releasing your your 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:49.200 anger is better than the other. Right, I can't say that, 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:52.440 because emotions are emotions. But you know, I choose one route, 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:55.400 others choose another. But I've seen these things happen, right, 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:57.080 I've seen it in the neighborhood that I grew up, 0:07:57.080 --> 0:07:59.400 and I've seen the abuse of power. I've been profiled 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:01.680 more times and I could even sit here and tell 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:04.640 you I've been followed. My family has been followed. I've 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:06.560 been pulled over. I've had to have these conversations with 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:08.720 my daughter, asked to you because of how she looks, 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:10.800 this is what goes on. I've had to have conversations 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:13.440 with the school board. Why don't you recognize the African 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:16.400 American History Month. Why is that? Oh? The response, Oh, 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:18.720 we just didn't think about it, right, So there's so 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:22.320 many things that have to be peeled back. Um, Cole, 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:24.800 I appreciate you taking the time. I've received many phone calls, 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:29.000 many text messages from from others that don't look like me, right, 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:32.560 UM and um and just expressing um after viewing my video, 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:38.000 expressing just there their sincere heartache. Um. You know, a 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:41.520 neighbors bringing stuff over and just just sharing that it's important. Right. 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:43.319 We need people to speak up, We need people to 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:45.480 go out and vote. Right. There's a lot of things 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:46.920 going on right now. Right now, there's the thing on 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:50.520 social media saying blackout right, blackout Tuesday. Hey, listen, I'm 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:54.880 all for certain things. However, let's not be let's not 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:57.599 be silly. And I think that you know that that 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:01.000 there's there's not initiatives on the back in our people 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:02.719 that are putting things out there that they're they're all 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:05.920 for the same mission. They're not. There's blackout Tuesday just 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:07.920 so happens to be on the same day that there's 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:11.640 a primary election going on today in Pennsylvania, a DC, 0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:15.400 New Mexico. So in other states, let's not let's not 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:17.480 be fod and think that this is just happening so 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:20.000 cause and let's all right for it. Let's let's let's 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:21.839 take a step back, take emotion out of it, do 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:24.439 your research, do your homework, and let's make some strategic 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:27.240 decisions that we've all come together. I'm angry that there's 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:29.079 a lot of people that are angry. Um, let's just 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:31.880 be you know, let's be smart about how we respond 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:34.040 to these things. UM. I can't tell people how to 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:37.319 how to respond, but we can. We can have this. 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:38.960 This could take a whole hour, and so let's um, 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:41.280 let's cut it there. I just I just uh, you know, 0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:43.600 we're tired of it. I can tell you I'm tired 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:47.840 of it. Emotionally drained and um you know, I pray 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:50.079 and and and hope that we can get through this 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:53.359 and get beyond this. But there's gonna These are generational 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:55.040 curses that we have to break in. We have to 0:09:55.120 --> 0:10:01.959 start now. I totally agree with what you guys said 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:05.160 as well said. And you know, for me as a 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:08.560 new dad, when I'm reading about George Floyd over the weekend, 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:11.240 and I didn't know that, you know, he has a 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:14.640 six year old daughter that lives in Texas and as 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:18.600 a new father, it's like it's haunting to think about 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:22.720 how she's got to grow up living with how her 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:28.200 father died publicly, and it's it's just it's heartbreaking. As 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:32.760 Heckma said, it's wrong and something's got to change. And 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:35.600 you guys said it so well. I mean, as Kyle 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:38.360 said earlier, it's it's not just a challenge for the 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:41.600 African American community, it's it's this is a human issue. 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:45.280 This is something everyone who's got a moral compass should 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:48.520 look at and say something absolutely has to change. And 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:53.440 you know people out there trying to affect change peacefully 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:57.360 and in the past few days, and I stand with 0:10:57.440 --> 0:10:59.760 that cause because it's it's definitely needed in our society. 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:03.520 We're better than this, very well said by each one 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:06.360 of you, and it's just time to move on from 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:10.040 racism and to finally look at each other for what's 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:12.400 on the inside rather than what's on the outside. Now, 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:14.480 that's it. We're gonna put it in the review mirror. 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:16.679 We're gonna talk some cowboys. Now, we're gonna move on 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:19.439 and dive in because there's still plenty to get to. 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:21.560 Even though it is the first week of June. Guys. 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:24.520 First off, it's June second, which is just wild to me. 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:27.959 The fact that we're already in the sixth month of 0:11:28.040 --> 0:11:31.320 the year and we're already just kind of barreling toward 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:34.240 what training camp could be here in the next month 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:37.240 and a half. We're about six weeks away from the 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:41.160 scheduled start of training camp, and Mike McCarthy had a 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:44.640 chance to talk about what training camp could potentially look at. 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:47.400 He had a conference call this past week with the 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:50.079 media of the Dallas Fort Worth area and Rob, you 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:52.439 were on that conference call. What were some of the 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:55.520 highlights that you kind of took away from that call 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:58.240 and we're able to at least dive into what this 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:03.079 virtual offseason looks like. Well, he was. Mike McCarthy was 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:05.280 pretty candid in that he wouldn't flat out say, look, 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:08.280 I feel like we're behind, because every other team in 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:12.120 the league is in the same situation. But he's realistic 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:13.640 about the fact that if they were able to have 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:16.040 a normal offseason, they probably would be far ahead of 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:18.400 where they are right now. It's just the nature of things. 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:20.480 One thing I thought it was interesting is the way 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:24.559 he's approached this, he talked about just relying on his 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:27.319 own instincts and experience because he really doesn't have it 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:29.840 despite being a head coach in the league for almost 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:33.080 twenty years. But one thing he's done with the virtual 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:37.800 program is kind of reverse things. And he started off 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:42.640 having players in position meetings right off the bat, diving 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:46.360 into schematic material and getting caught up with the volume 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:48.640 of that, which is it's more of a challenge for 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:50.960 a team like this because it's new. It's a lot 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:54.800 of new stuff and more of the big picture stuff 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:57.240 saved that for later. Let's just get ahead, start and 0:12:57.360 --> 0:12:59.880 get as fast as quickly as we can get acclimated 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:02.599 this for when we can't get back together. Isaiah, that 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:04.360 seemed like it was kind of flipped a little bit, 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:07.240 but he felt like the volume there that they have 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:10.199 to absorb, especially younger players rookies coming into league, it 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:12.240 was important to get right into it with the position 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:18.319 groups and get going. Yeah. Absolutely, I mean yeah, I 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:20.319 just doubled back up and gets shooted over to you. Heck, no, 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:22.600 it's and that is the most important thing. And I'm 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:24.520 glad that he took the time to mention and that 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:26.959 that's where the focus is because that is where the 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:29.880 weight of this offseason really lays right now, It really 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:33.160 really lies. And the amount of information I wish I 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:35.679 could show you guys a playbook right now, but the 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:39.280 amount of information that has to be consumed during this 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:41.600 period of time with the new with a new staff 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:45.719 and a new system, is it's a lot. It is insurmountable. 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:48.240 And and and these guys really needed to dive directly 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:51.320 into that because there's there's a there's a classroom aspect, right. 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:53.280 There's classroom where you where you sit up there and 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:56.040 you're studying, and you're and you're in you're consuming information, 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:58.679 hundreds of plays per day, right, and you're just digesting that. 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:01.640 You're just just old school board work, right. And then 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:04.280 there's an application side of things, right, And so you 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:07.040 go from the classroom, you do a little film study, 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:09.079 and then you go straight to the field and you 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:11.480 apply it. And that's what really makes it stick. That's 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:13.760 what really makes it resonate with you and allows for 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:15.320 you to really digest it it so that you can 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:18.520 then move on. Right. So the issue that I see 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:20.640 that these guys that the Cowboys an't going to encounter 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:24.040 is they're having a classroom sessions, right, they're having they 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:26.040 probably have some film sessions that they have homework to do, 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:28.800 but they don't have the application side. So how much 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:30.520 is this is really going to resonate and going to 0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:32.200 stick with them when they actually get a chance to 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:33.760 touch the field. They're going to be doing a lot 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:36.360 of doubling back, tripling back, just to go over basic 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:39.280 information that like, like you guys really mentioned, Rob, they 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:40.920 wouldn't have to be trying to go over at this 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:43.960 point in time and to see offseason. Yeah, I thought 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:46.440 it was very I thought it's very interesting to hear 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:49.400 him point out the fact that, you know, offensively, they 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:51.480 were going to try to remain with a lot of 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:54.880 the same terminology just so that guys would be familiar 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:58.360 with with you know, with those terms. He knows that 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:01.040 you know, in this whole new code of nineteen America 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:05.000 that these things are these are very interesting times and 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:08.320 the whole teaching method, not only for Mike McCarthy before 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:12.080 the league, has had to change and so making sure 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:15.400 that he's up to date with the times, and it's 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:18.240 very important. He talked about climate control and just dealing 0:15:18.360 --> 0:15:21.160 with the climate that you're in, and I thought that 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:25.080 was very important for him to say, and also his research, 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:28.640 his data mining, his old R and D stuff. You know, 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:31.520 how many meetings would they have had up until this point, 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:34.240 how many practices would they have had up until this point? 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:36.720 And Rob, you're right, he feel short of just saying 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:39.800 we're behind right now, you know, but he knows he 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:42.480 knows that everybody else is behind as well. And so 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:46.680 it's a very unique challenge for all coaches, but especially 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:50.040 him being a new coach and wanting to implement his system. 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:53.200 He said he didn't have a way to have like 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:56.000 ninety boxes on his computer so that he could address 0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:59.480 everyone at one time. So that's probably why he was 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:02.760 doing the everything in the group setting. But making sure 0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:05.880 that he introduced himself to his players and let them 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:09.160 know that he's available at this point is the best 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:11.200 he can do. But as far as the teaching part 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:13.200 of it, he's leaving a lot of that up to 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:16.440 his position guys, making sure that they're able to regurgitate 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:19.480 the information that they're receiving, testing these guys to make 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:21.680 sure that they're getting I think, you know, look, with 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:25.640 everybody being in the same barrel, I'm sure Mike McCarthy 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:28.480 is looking forward to the opportunity to actually see and 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:32.400 greet his guys. Well, we're also in a transition period. 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:35.800 We're going from one offense to another offense, Kellen Moore 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:38.520 of course being the offensive coordinator for both. But this 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:40.120 is still going to be a little bit of a 0:16:40.200 --> 0:16:43.840 new look because Mike McCarthy has his hands over this 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:46.680 offense and Isaiah you kind of talked about the application 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:50.800 side of the process. You have this all digestion and 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:52.840 then you finally have a chance to apply it. It's 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:55.640 almost like your tests and your studying in college and 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:57.280 then you actually go out and do it for a 0:16:57.400 --> 0:17:00.640 job later on for following graduation. You don't get that 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:03.720 just yet. There's a little bit of a space in between. 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:08.000 But how important is that application process? It's huge? I 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:10.439 mean I think, I mean, I'll take everybody back to school, right, 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:12.879 go back to high school when everybody has science class. Right, 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:15.600 Imagine having science class and you didn't have lab, right, 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:18.760 how much how much information would you actually remember? Right? 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:20.679 How much would you actually be able to apply? Right? 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:23.480 So you know, like I said, it's it's very important 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:24.760 to be able to get on the field and run 0:17:24.840 --> 0:17:26.479 those routes. Yes, I could look up here and say, hey, 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:28.920 you run fourteen yards, turn here, and I could do 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:31.040 that all day long on paper, right, But until I 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:32.560 get out there and do it, and I have the 0:17:32.640 --> 0:17:34.600 timing of it right, a quarterback puts it on a 0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:37.239 proper shoulder, you know, the right location with the right 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:39.320 you know, in the right formation, with the right motion, 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:42.879 the right timing. All those things matter. It matters, matters, matters. That, 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:47.320 don't get me wrong. Classroom is huge. However, the only 0:17:47.440 --> 0:17:49.239 way in which you really advance is by going out 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:51.919 there and getting those reps. And you cannot, I repeat, 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:54.400 you cannot get those reps that these guys have missed back. 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:57.640 You can't get them back. Yeah, you just can't. That's 0:17:57.680 --> 0:18:00.840 such a great analogy, you know, the lab versus just 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:04.160 looking at him on a choco. You know, that's so true, 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:06.680 and like you can apply it because if you apply 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:08.320 it to any spot. Really, we get out there and 0:18:08.400 --> 0:18:11.159 you practice, not only are you you're going over plays, 0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:13.480 but things can happen off of that play that you 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:16.080 have to adjust to that you can't see on film. 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:19.159 It's got to happen live. And so look, every team's 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:20.800 dealing with it. One thing I thought he said that 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:23.520 was really interesting that I didn't expect him to say, 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:26.800 was that this might be the most experienced team he's had, 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:31.000 and that that really surprised me, because I mean, he's 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:33.119 won a super Bowl, you know, and he's he's been 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:35.800 he's brought a team back a year later that won 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:39.320 a title. And but when you think about it, there 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:42.120 are certain positions on this roster that are extremely experienced, 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:44.920 offensive line being one of them. And some of the 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:48.439 young guys on this team are leaders and key players 0:18:48.520 --> 0:18:51.479 that have playoff experience. Already, if you go through all 0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:55.560 the all the projected starting quarterbacks in this league, there's 0:18:55.680 --> 0:18:58.920 probably less than a dozen that have more starts in 0:18:59.000 --> 0:19:02.000 the league than dak Press Scott. So that's that's a 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:05.960 solid thing to inherit for Mike McCarthy. And they've they've 0:19:06.000 --> 0:19:09.080 added we talked about guys, they've added defensive lineman with 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:13.080 a lot of experience, Paul McCoy, Alvin Smith. So they 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:15.280 do have experience. And that's one thing he said, because 0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:17.840 somebody asks a really good question, do you try to 0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:20.880 dial back the volume that you're giving your players because 0:19:20.920 --> 0:19:23.640 it's all virtual, And he said, because of the experience 0:19:23.680 --> 0:19:26.399 that we have on this team. I feel comfortable, you know, 0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:29.080 handling the normal volume that I would with a new 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:32.160 scheme coming in. Yeah, Rob, And that's where that's where 0:19:32.240 --> 0:19:35.680 he is talking about trusting his instincts and trusting the 0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:39.200 group of guys that he has. But also, you know, 0:19:39.320 --> 0:19:42.560 as you know, Isaiah, it's coaches are always, you know, 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:46.600 coaching for situations. You know, they call it situational awareness, 0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:50.160 right whether it be the two minute drill, hash marks, whatever, 0:19:50.320 --> 0:19:52.840 whatever's going on. Coaches are coaching for that and these 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:55.960 other times to try to implement that. I think it's 0:19:56.000 --> 0:19:58.240 gonna be very special. You know, it's going to be 0:19:58.280 --> 0:20:02.080 a special thing for or Mike McCarthy once he gets 0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:04.560 his guys in, because then he can lay his head 0:20:04.560 --> 0:20:07.119 on his pillow a night knowing that his guys are aware. 0:20:07.280 --> 0:20:10.280 Right now, all of these things that he's using as 0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:12.840 a teaching tool for these guys sitting in their living 0:20:12.920 --> 0:20:15.879 room still doesn't give him a feel as a coach 0:20:16.200 --> 0:20:19.200 for his team. And so these are just words that 0:20:19.320 --> 0:20:22.119 he's thrown out because he understands in order to actually 0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:24.240 know what's going on with these guys, he has to 0:20:24.280 --> 0:20:27.240 put them through the ringer guys have to pass condition tests, 0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:30.000 all of those things, but at the same time coaching 0:20:30.080 --> 0:20:33.440 them up understanding that when this happens, this is what 0:20:33.640 --> 0:20:36.600 you do. You can't get you can't simulate that with 0:20:36.720 --> 0:20:39.000 the computer. You have to be on the field. You 0:20:39.160 --> 0:20:41.640 have to get those live reps. I mean, friendly fire 0:20:41.760 --> 0:20:44.000 is one thing, but getting out there and seeing it 0:20:44.200 --> 0:20:47.000 happen live is a completely different thing. And I think 0:20:47.040 --> 0:20:50.200