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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the

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Speaker 1: Star in Friscott. It's another Tuesday edition of Talking Cowboys

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Speaker 1: here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Glad you're with us.

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Speaker 1: Throughout the course of the next hour, we'll be diving

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Speaker 1: into Mike McCarthy will be diving into the linebacker situation,

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Speaker 1: and then we'll also have a special guest. We'll look

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Speaker 1: a little bit different in that final segment. Patrick Creighton,

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Speaker 1: former Cowboys wide receiver, joins us, a good friend of

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Speaker 1: Isaiah stand Back, our resident Super Bowl champion and Isaiah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know you've got You've got some trash talking

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Speaker 1: to do after some bowling last night, so I'm looking

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Speaker 1: forward to that. But alongside Isaiah, you got myself, Kyle

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Speaker 1: Yeoman's Rob Phillips, heck my Harrison. We're glad to be

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Speaker 1: with you and guys before we kind of dive in

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Speaker 1: plenty of. Like I said, Mike McCarthy, linebackers. We've got

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Speaker 1: plenty of cowboys to dive into. I wanted to address

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Speaker 1: something really quickly, and much like all of you who

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Speaker 1: after it's recorded, you're just like me. You come to

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Speaker 1: these podcasts for a little bit of a distraction. You

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Speaker 1: come to hear about the Dallas Cowboys, you come to

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Speaker 1: get away from the world. And I promise you'll get

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Speaker 1: all of that, but that'll come in about five minutes.

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Speaker 1: But first, we simply wouldn't be human if we didn't

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Speaker 1: take a second to speak from the heart about some

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Speaker 1: of the events that have tired over the past couple

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Speaker 1: saying I have family and law enforcement. I pray for

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Speaker 1: them every single day because of how dangerous and how

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Speaker 1: unpredictable that their job could be throughout the course of

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Speaker 1: any given day, over the course of their career, and

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Speaker 1: what they choose to do for a living. But now

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Speaker 1: also because of just a select few people, a very

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Speaker 1: this is something that I've been really thinking about over

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Speaker 1: that's not what that is. All three of those things

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Speaker 1: the world in some parts, it's not about black versus white.

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Speaker 1: It's not about cops or citizens. It's not about democrat

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Speaker 1: This is something everyone who's got a moral compass should

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Speaker 1: We're better than this, very well said by each one

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk some cowboys. Now, we're gonna move on

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Speaker 1: Even though it is the first week of June. Guys.

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Speaker 1: First off, it's June second, which is just wild to me.

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Speaker 1: I think from a volume standpoint, yes, they probably aren't

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Speaker 1: caught up. I do think beyond the field part of it,

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Speaker 1: that's where I think the veterans probably just have an

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Speaker 1: inherent advantage just because they've been at this level live reps.

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Speaker 1: In person. Isaiah made disagree with that but I just think,

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Speaker 1: you know, in theory, I think it's gonna take maybe

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Speaker 1: a little longer for rookies to step on the field.

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Speaker 1: And because think about it, though, this is going back

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Speaker 1: all the way since January, where they really haven't been

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Speaker 1: in football mode. They've been in job interviews basically trying

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Speaker 1: to get drafted. So they need to get back on

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Speaker 1: the field as quickly as possible. It's just not up

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Speaker 1: to them now. They also kind of went into the factor.

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Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy actually went into the fact of Oxnard Frisco.

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Speaker 1: There's two effort options as to how training camp could

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Speaker 1: potentially be done. They're planning for both in full. They

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Speaker 1: want to make sure that the Oxnard, if that's the choice,

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Speaker 1: is ready to go, and if it's Frisco, that that's

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Speaker 1: ready to go. But how different would those two look

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Speaker 1: and how would things kind of change and fluctuate back

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Speaker 1: and forth. Rob Well, you know, I mean, they've they've

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Speaker 1: viewed Frisco the Frisco portion as training camp in the

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Speaker 1: past few years. It's only about a week or so,

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Speaker 1: maybe ten days, but you know, they're they're comfortable obviously

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Speaker 1: with their facilities when they can use them. I think

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Speaker 1: the difference is I think having two grass fields in

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Speaker 1: Oxnard is a difference. And as well as being able

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Speaker 1: to practice outside in very moderate temperatures, that's that's very

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Speaker 1: and I say that very, I put that lightly. I

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Speaker 1: guess right, that's it's beyond moderate compared to what it

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Speaker 1: is in August here. But yeah, those two grass fields,

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Speaker 1: I think it's easier on the player's bodies and especially

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Speaker 1: in pads and then and then obviously the temperatures. I

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Speaker 1: love them too. So you know, we'll see if we

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Speaker 1: could get back out there. Isaiah. Is there any difference

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Speaker 1: as to where training camp could be from a player standpoint? Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: this is not the year going back to Oxnard. No

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Speaker 1: disrespect to the California Asia know y'all know him West

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Speaker 1: Coast till I died, But this is not the year.

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Speaker 1: There's been too much that's gone on. We don't even

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Speaker 1: know if we're gonna have fans in the stands. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't make sense right now with everything that's going on

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Speaker 1: in the league, but especially with the Cowboys with a

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Speaker 1: new coach COVID nineteen coming off, you know, not being

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Speaker 1: at the in your facilities in there in a proper

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Speaker 1: time span you're gonna be rushing to try to get

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Speaker 1: all this information. You're gonna be rushing to try to

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Speaker 1: get reps. You're gonna be rushing to get guys healthy,

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Speaker 1: because the guys will get hurt. There's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: lot of soft tissue injuries coming off of this, right

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Speaker 1: So there's no you do not need to be in Oxnard, California,

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Speaker 1: right now trying to get your marketing dollars right now. Jerry,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I love you, but keep this thing right here.

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Speaker 1: That wasn't a one and a half billion dollars, two

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Speaker 1: billion dollars facility that you got over there. You guize

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Speaker 1: that thing this year? Yeah, I think it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: the extra special you know, well, this special set of

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Speaker 1: circumstances surrounding COVID nineteen. I think that makes it equally

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Speaker 1: as hard to see a training camp and you know,

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Speaker 1: in California. But who knows, you know. I think at

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Speaker 1: this point, with all of the speculation and just the

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Speaker 1: realm of sports in general and looking at deadlines, it's

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Speaker 1: all conjecture. We're all just trying to figure out if

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Speaker 1: this is actually going to happen. But it makes for

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Speaker 1: a great topic but I think the at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, the Cowboys are gonna do what's best

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Speaker 1: suited for the health of the team. M and Rob

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Speaker 1: just I wanted to go back to what you you

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Speaker 1: were saying about the two grass fields and just the

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Speaker 1: weather conditions. That's why they go out to California's what

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Speaker 1: everybody gloats about. The weather in California. Seventy four seventy

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Speaker 1: five degrees California. I A, I mean, you gotta love

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Speaker 1: that in comparison to one hundred and ten and the

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Speaker 1: devil walking the streets. Right, it's because it's I and

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Speaker 1: you know and you know side here, and so that's

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Speaker 1: got to make a major difference, especially with implementing a

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Speaker 1: new office. And I'm sure for Mike McCarthy he is

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Speaker 1: hoping that they are out in California as well, because

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Speaker 1: he don't know nothing about this Texas heat. But you

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Speaker 1: deal it. Heck, you're right there. They're not going to

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Speaker 1: do anything. There's so many variables involved in this and

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Speaker 1: we just don't know. Yeah, and so they're not going

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Speaker 1: to do anything that's gonna put the team at risk

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Speaker 1: or is going to present a lot of logistical challenges.

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Speaker 1: But Isaiah pointed out, So we'll just have to see.

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Speaker 1: But there's there is a reason why they go out there.

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Speaker 1: It is pretty nice out there in some time, man.

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Speaker 1: And it's been a crazy offseason for all of us,

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Speaker 1: whether we're media or fans of the Cowboys, but especially

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Speaker 1: for the coaching staff. I mean, I don't even know

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Speaker 1: But guys, I talked about the off season additions. We

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Speaker 1: talked about the virtual off season just a bit ago.

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Speaker 1: But with all of the additions defensively, you've added both

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Speaker 1: defensive tackles and Doantari Po and Jill McCoy. Oh, by

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Speaker 1: the way, Neville Gallimour was a third round pick and

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Speaker 1: he's got some upside to him as well. You've added

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Speaker 1: some corners, You've added some secondary depth. Throughout the course

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Speaker 1: of the entire off season, there hasn't necessarily been a

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Speaker 1: whole lot of addition on the linebacking corps, and I

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Speaker 1: kind of wanted to dive into what the linebackers are

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Speaker 1: looking at heading into twenty twenty. And we saw a

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Speaker 1: video the other day Layton vander esh a forty one

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Speaker 1: inch vertical off of one lag looking pretty solid in

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Speaker 1: terms of his rehab and coming back from that neck

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Speaker 1: injury a year ago. And my question is is does

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Speaker 1: this do anything for you the fact that he has

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Speaker 1: that forty one inch vertical and he's having fun out

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Speaker 1: there shown off as athleticism. Does it do anything for

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Speaker 1: you in terms of a at least somebody looking at

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Speaker 1: player that is coming back from an injury. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I thought it was wonderful also that you see Jordan

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Speaker 1: Lewis do the same jump as well. Jordan Lewis is

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Speaker 1: five eight right five eight by how tall? I don't

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Speaker 1: know how tall. Jordans is five nine five a and

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Speaker 1: I mean he same one leg jump. But all that

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Speaker 1: tells me about LV is that he's explosive anytime a

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Speaker 1: guy is that kind of vertical. But we all we

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Speaker 1: inch vertical. But guys, I think the linebacker group, you know,

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Speaker 1: this is gonna be a group that we're gonna watch

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Speaker 1: very closely, especially Jalen Smith and we talked avet him

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Speaker 1: a few shows ago, and I'm really excited about him

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Speaker 1: that piece that you can move around when I look

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Speaker 1: down the roster. And also, you know, the health of

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Speaker 1: Lvee Venders is very important to this club. But the

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Speaker 1: signing of Sean Lee let me know everything that I

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Speaker 1: needed to know about what the Cowboys thought about the

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Speaker 1: other group. You know, I think Luke Gifford is that

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Speaker 1: You know, he has a great upside as far as

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Speaker 1: back over his career in Nebraska, he had some some

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Speaker 1: hip injuries, season ending hip hip injuries. So staying healthy

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Speaker 1: has been his thing, has been his thing. But also

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Speaker 1: Joe Thomas March, all of those guys, I think they

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Speaker 1: have a large role to play. But these linebackers, this

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Speaker 1: linebacker group, man, they're definitely gonna have to be a

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Speaker 1: lot more solid than they were last year because if

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Speaker 1: the running game in general, doing those two games, you

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Speaker 1: just upfront play in general. Yeah, I'm looking forward to

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Speaker 1: the continuity of this group more so than anything. Obviously.

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Speaker 1: We've touched on this a number of times on the

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Speaker 1: show in terms of their their health concern at that position,

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Speaker 1: and their depth at that position. And Kyle, you alluded

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Speaker 1: he's excited, he's Egg's athletic. All those guys are right,

643
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: But there is concerned there because it doesn't take much.

644
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: It takes one bad angle and all of a sudden

645
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: he's back sidelined again. So these are things that we

646
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: don't wish upon anybody, but these are real issues that

647
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: we have to be prepared for, and I don't think

648
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: that we've addressed it and positioned ourselves to be ready

649
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: to handle that should those issues present themselves again. But

650
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: you know, I'm excited about that front, that front line

651
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: allowing these guys to run free, and I'm looking forward

652
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: to seeing that energy that all of them bring, especially

653
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: Jalen and vander As. Those two leads kind of like

654
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: the the the clearheaded one in terms of being calm

655
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: and being that you Jedi. But those two on the

656
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: outside are gonna be able to run free. And I'm

657
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing them all come together and just

658
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: have fun because they are going to be able to

659
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 1: random make plays. Uh you know, they're gonna be in

660
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: position to how I'll have a lot more blitzes than

661
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: they've ever had. So it should be it should be

662
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: fun to watch. Hey, Rob, did I take all of

663
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: your points? I knew, I knew that was possible, But

664
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,760
Speaker 1: I did some research today, did some research today about

665
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: that forty one vertical. He actually Vanderesh, by the way,

666
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: thirty nine and a half is vertical at the combine.

667
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 1: This what an athlete he is because got this from

668
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:42,280
Speaker 1: an Idaho station. Heck, here you go. Players eight players

669
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: before Vanderesh since oh eight have gotten that type of

670
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,280
Speaker 1: vertical at the combine at over two hundred and fifty pounds.

671
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: And the list is pretty good. Miles Garrett, bud Dupree,

672
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:56,399
Speaker 1: Khalil Mack, Jamie Collins, Brian Rackpo and Connor Baldwin. That's

673
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: a list of a lot of guys that have had

674
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: success in the league, and it just speaks to his

675
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: overall talent level. Like like Isaiah said, he's got to

676
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: come back healthy and he says he's feeling great. That's

677
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,280
Speaker 1: great news. You know, you've got to have that depthit

678
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: linebacker because it is such a physical position. They need

679
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: a guy like you know, Joe Thomas is a great

680
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 1: guy to have as a reserve. Luke Gifford needs to

681
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: take a step forward. He had some injuries last year.

682
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,919
Speaker 1: They need him to make this team and be ready

683
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: to fill in if needed. But when they're healthy, man,

684
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 1: this is a group that's as good as when they're

685
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 1: at their best, as as any group in the NFL.

686
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 1: And you guys are right. Depending on how they make

687
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: this defense, maybe more multiple. It could showcase more of

688
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: what Jalen Smith can do as a rusher and really

689
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: all those guys because they've shown a knack for being

690
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: able to get me far and Rob I that you

691
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: brought up the point of the multiple, the hybrid defense.

692
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a position group that's going to

693
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 1: be more effected with the new Mike Nolwyn way of

694
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: playing defense than these linebackers. Then seeing potentially having Jalen

695
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 1: Smith kind of pigeonholed into maybe more of a path

696
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 1: treasure role. You have Layton vander Eshi and coverage. I

697
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 1: think a guy who benefits from that a lot is

698
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: Francis Bernard, the undrafted free agent out of Utah who's

699
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 1: grating coverage. I think he benefits a lot from what

700
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: Mike Nolan's bringing to the table, and he may end

701
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 1: up fitting that mold going into twenty twenty. But heck

702
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: mansary to cut you off there, and I'll pitch it

703
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: to you here, but what do you think about the

704
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: changes that are being made with Mike Nolan and this

705
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: defense and how exactly that could affect the xs and

706
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: ohs of this linebacking corps. Well, I mean, I think

707
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: it's evident anytime you have a changing of the guard,

708
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: as far as the coaching staff is concerned, that you

709
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: look for a different scheme. We're looking for the scheme

710
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: that best fits the guys that we have. And when

711
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 1: you talk about that that list that Rob just went

712
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: off of, I mean, Khalil Mack, you know, come on, man,

713
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: I mean that's a that's that ain't bad. That's a

714
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: that's a list of guys that you want to be

715
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: in the company of those guys. But guys, look, it's

716
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: the defense itself has to make a change. We have

717
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: to make a change up from when you look over

718
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: last season and you know, some of the vanilla coverages

719
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: that we had, we became really predictable. But when you

720
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: have special athletes like Layton Vander esh and Jalen Smith,

721
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 1: you have to use them and you have to put

722
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 1: them in the situations and the scheme to succeed. And

723
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: that's what I see Nolan doing. You know, we forget

724
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 1: and you know, Kyle, I got a little upset with

725
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,879
Speaker 1: you a couple weeks ago when we were talking about

726
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: Jaylen Smith and you kind of throw a little shade.

727
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: But I want got everybody to remember that Jaylen Smith

728
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 1: is is still the guy that beat Deshaun Watson to

729
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: the polom. So you talk about a special athlete, that

730
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 1: is who he is. And so if coach Nolan, all

731
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,919
Speaker 1: of these guys are really salivating to get their hands

732
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: on these guys to put them in the positions to

733
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: succeed because they know that they have a bunch of

734
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: athletic guys that can make make plays for them, Isaiah,

735
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: I want to ask the question of whenever a new

736
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: scheme is implemented and you do have guys that maybe

737
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: see their role change a little bit, whether it's offensively

738
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: or defensively, do some players take exception to that to say, hey,

739
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: I am a hybrid player. I can both play in

740
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: coverage and pass rush, or do they normally kind of

741
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: realize what their specialties are whenever it's on the field.

742
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: Every player knows what they're best at, right and everybody

743
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: everybody's kind of comfortable in a certain position and being

744
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: utilized in a certain way. But when you have as

745
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: much talent as you do on this defense, I can't

746
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: imagine there being anybody that's so stubborn to the fact

747
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: that they don't want to move around and be utilized

748
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: in the most efficient way to benefit the entire team.

749
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: So even though guys, do you know, hey, I might

750
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: be a really great edge rusher. Okay, well I'm gonna

751
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: move you inside on this play. That's fine if that

752
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: helps us get make plays, and let's let's do it right. So,

753
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: I think having a defensive coordinator that's able to put

754
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: you in a position and having the amount of talent

755
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 1: around you where it really doesn't matter. Right, I can

756
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: move around, So what if I play on the right end? Okay,

757
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 1: this play, I'm on the left, and then next thing

758
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: you know, I'm playing on the second level in linebacker.

759
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: There's so much that could be done here when you

760
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: have so much talent, and I just I really want

761
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: to drive home the fact that I'm excited to see

762
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: these guys get together right and build that continuity, because

763
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: when you're out there and you're flying around and you're

764
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: having fun, it just reminds me of my times when

765
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 1: I was in Seattle and we had so much talent

766
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: on defense and it didn't matter where guys were right,

767
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: it didn't matter. Guys were making plays, and you're excited

768
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: for your boy to make plays. And I think that's

769
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 1: where we're gonna see here. It just really depends on

770
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: the culture that's created once they touched the field, and

771
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: it's going to be interesting looking at how really the linebackers,

772
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: along with the those tackles are kind of thrown into

773
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: all of this because you've got Jalen Smith, you've got

774
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: Layton Vanderiche hopefully completely back and healthy, all of the

775
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 1: depth that Rob mentioned earlier. I want to kind of

776
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: focus in on here, though, is the unsung hero, the

777
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 1: one that's been forgotten even though he's been here forever.

778
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: And that's Sean Lee. I mean, last year he showed

779
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: that he has some left in the tank. Whether it

780
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: was against LA even against Philly on the road, he

781
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: had a pretty solid game in terms of the grades

782
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: that he had. I think Pro Football Focus had him

783
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: close to in elite grade during that matchup on the

784
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: road against Philadelphia and in the next to last week

785
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 1: of the season. But Rob, what kind of role do

786
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 1: you see Sean Lee having in what is going to

787
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:28,879
Speaker 1: be a new look defense? Well, I mean he can.

788
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: I think what he proved last year is he can

789
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: do and he's probably already proved that in his career

790
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: he could do whatever he made him to do. I mean,

791
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: he can play anywhere. He's been a middle linebacker, he's

792
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: been a weak side linebacker. He accepted that strong side role,

793
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: which has significantly less snaps given the amount of sub

794
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: packages that defenses played. And then he filled in for

795
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: Vanderesh And you know what, I think he kind of

796
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 1: told us after the year, the way he played proved

797
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: to himself and especially his health too, because as Ai

798
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 1: is right, you know, that's been an issue for him

799
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: and he admits it. To play sixteen games that has

800
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 1: never happened in his career full sixteen. He proved to himself, Look,

801
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: I can still do this, I can still help this team.

802
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: I think his role is whatever is asked of him, honestly,

803
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: because I think I think he could do it. I

804
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: think he understands that Vanderesh and Jalen are the future

805
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: of this defense and he embraces that and he is

806
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,240
Speaker 1: Those guys will tell you he has been a mentors

807
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 1: for those guys, and I think he'll just continue to

808
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: do that, honestly. That's that's a great point. That's a

809
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: great point, Robin. And like you said, I mean that

810
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 1: milestone for him was actually playing a full sixteen game

811
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: season and he did that in ten years. It took

812
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: him ten years to actually accomplish that. But it's not

813
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: because of any Look, Sean Lee is a tough guy.

814
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: You know, he is the compliment captain and team leader.

815
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: And we have to talk about the fact that when

816
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: it comes down to the linebacker group, I mean, this

817
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: is the lifeline that quarterback in your linebackers you know

818
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 1: when I was a linebacker. But those are the smartest

819
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: guys on your team, right, so you you want those

820
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: guys to be you know, up temple flying around as

821
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: you said, Isaiah. But also, man, your whole team feeds

822
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: off of what your defense is doing, and they're feeding

823
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: off of their living. Your vent is Shun Lee, who

824
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: can play all of those positions. And so guys keep

825
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: that in mind with Nolan's defense, because if these guys

826
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: are able to put pressures, get interceptions, you know, sacks,

827
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: you know, big play, who plays and things like that,

828
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: and especially coming from your eleven year veteran, everybody's calling

829
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: him Paul Paul. But if he can actually be if

830
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,760
Speaker 1: he can actually be that guy, that's the tone center

831
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: for your defense. Now that just permeates and feeds your

832
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: whole teams and give you guys the energy and momentum

833
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: that you need in those tough games. Man, Listen, here,

834
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 1: Lee is the John Stockton, He is the Steve Nash

835
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: of this defense. Nothing is going to happen unless he

836
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: is at the grand c interestation of it all. And

837
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: his job is simply to be consistent. His job is

838
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 1: to be consistent. His job is to be the brain

839
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 1: of that of that of that front seven, and he's

840
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: just there to simply make plays like he always does

841
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 1: right and be a smart player to get guys in

842
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: position if you guys don't know. Middle linebacker's job is

843
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: to make sure that everybody knows what the heck's going on,

844
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 1: knows the calls. He's also in charge of making sure

845
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: that McCoy and poul and everybody else, all all those

846
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: guys are gonna be lined up accordingly, that they're in

847
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: the right shade, right, that he's able to distinguish what

848
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks calling right, any kind of keys or tips

849
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: at the quarterbacks giving golf for office, a linement, giving off.

850
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 1: That's his job to identify that and make sure his

851
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: guys are in position and make them plays. So that's

852
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 1: what it's going to be asked of Lee during this season.

853
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,240
Speaker 1: He's gonna do what he always does and make plays.

854
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: And I think he's going to be substantially more healthier

855
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: than he has ever been because of the guys that

856
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: are in front of him. So I think he's really

857
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:45,879
Speaker 1: looking forward to this year as well, because he's never

858
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: had had guys in front of him like this or

859
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: assistance on the side of him. You know, I love

860
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 1: a good to BA reference. Now John stopped Hi back

861
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: in the day he stopping You were a Knicks fan,

862
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,439
Speaker 1: and you can't like John Stockton. Stop it. So now

863
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: with all of that being said, and Isaiah, I think

864
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 1: you brought up a magnificent point of hopefully he's healthy

865
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 1: enough throughout the back half of the season or even

866
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 1: at the beginning, more so than he has been in

867
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 1: the past, because in twenty nineteen he was healthy for

868
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: the majority of the year. But are any of you

869
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 1: worried about his health because of what this offseason has been,

870
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: the fact that they haven't had the application and they

871
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 1: may not have as much application of on field time

872
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: practice reps and being able to get your body ready

873
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 1: for the NFL. If there's anybody that I guess could

874
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: get the body ready, it might be Sean Lee. But

875
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: are you guys worried. I'm not. I'm not worried. I mean,

876
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: you think about what concerns we have about him right?

877
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: Is his head right? And at this time in the

878
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: off season you wouldn't be hitting anybody anyway, So in

879
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: terms of him, there's nothing. There's no concerns there. I

880
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: don't have any concerns with Vandersch at this point in

881
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: time of the off season because they wouldn't be hitting

882
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: anybody anyways, right. Our concerns that we have for those

883
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: two specifically are going to be when those guys get

884
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 1: the pans on right and they started hitting guys. My

885
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: concern with Jaylen Smith is, Hey, that boy's explosive is

886
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: all get out. Has he been having the offseason that

887
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: he needs to have because he's going to be running

888
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: a lot more. He's gonna be blitzing a lot more.

889
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: He's gonna be asked to go side to side a

890
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: lot more. So these are you know, soft tissue injuries.

891
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: I'm more concerned about those early on in camp and

892
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 1: all the fans out there get prepared. Guys will get

893
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: back healthy, but there will be soft tissue injuries because

894
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: you cannot duplicate real live reps. And guys are gonna

895
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: get back, They're gonna be excited, They're gonna be trying

896
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 1: to show off for the coaches, are gonna be uh,

897
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: you know, positioning themselves for you know, to for starting roles.

898
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: So it's gonna it's gonna get real. So the physical

899
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 1: aspect in terms of the head injuries and neck injuries

900
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: not so much more so to soft tissue injuries. Yeah,

901
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: I worry about a guy. I'm sorry, I don't. I

902
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: don't worry about a guy like Sean Lee. Just to

903
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: answer that, man, he's the consummate professional. You know that

904
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 1: he's going to have his body ready to go at

905
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 1: the beginning. And for all of these guys, I mean

906
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 1: when you see the training that they're doing and they're

907
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: putting this on Instagram for all of us to see

908
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 1: them getting in shape. But the same for jayals Smith,

909
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 1: he knows what's going to be asked of him, and

910
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: of all the guys. I mean, he had an exceptional

911
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: year last year, one hundred and sixty eight tackles, which

912
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: got him into the Pro Bowl. Laton Vanderish off his

913
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 1: rookie season being in All Pro as a rookie, So

914
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: you know, all of these guys are itching to get

915
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,720
Speaker 1: back to that prime position and taking care of themselves

916
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: is the first thing. But in COVID and this whole

917
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 1: thing that's going on, I know that Sean Lee is

918
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: somebody that you don't have to worry about. He's been

919
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 1: in the league for ten years. If anybody knows how

920
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,399
Speaker 1: to get their body right and how to fuel going

921
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 1: into an NFL season, he would probably be one of

922
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: the ones right up at the top of the list,

923
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,719
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924
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: go with and go through throughout the course of his career.

925
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: Now we're gonna step aside. When we come back, we'll

926
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929
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930
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976
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977
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 1: we'll be popping around like we have in the past.

978
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: I believe we've done this once or twice, but it

979
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981
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: on Dallas cowboys dot Com. We're still waiting for our

982
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:10,240
Speaker 1: special guests. The suspense is killing us Patrick Craton joining

983
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 1: in the show. But Isaiah, I want to give you

984
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 1: a chance. Before we get into Patrick actually being on

985
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: the show, I want you to preface one of the

986
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: reasons why he's popping on is because you guys had

987
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: a little bit of a competition last night. We definitely

988
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: had a little competition, and uh, you know, I really

989
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: I love competition, you know, and I and um, you know,

990
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: coming into the league as a young rookie, there's there's

991
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,280
Speaker 1: a gentleman, young veteran by the name of Patrick Crayton

992
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: that I happened to kind of stay in his hip pocket, right.

993
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: I was kind of his little brother. And you know,

994
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: as little brothers, do you know, we're kind of a

995
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 1: past you know, we always in there, you know, always

996
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 1: in the ear, and a big brothers kind of throw

997
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: us around a little bit. So whenever you have an

998
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 1: opportunity to get back at your big brother, you pretty

999
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: much hop all over that. Right. So over the past

1000
00:50:58,040 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 1: few weeks, I've been bowling my guy down at a

1001
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 1: Bowski's Dallas. Over at Lakewood, Dallas. They've been having a

1002
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: virtual bowling a bowl of bullet on every Monday night,

1003
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: and I've been beating friends left and right. And I

1004
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 1: caught out Patrick Crayton this this past week and I

1005
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: had an opportunity to take him on last night and

1006
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 1: they head best of three, and I happened to beat

1007
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: him in the first two games, and he decided he

1008
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: wanted to bowl a third game, and your boy had

1009
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: I had to bring out my broomstick, you know. Yeah,

1010
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 1: I had a brand of broomstick. Was a clean, sweet,

1011
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: clean sweet you know. I told him he had a

1012
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: valiant effort, you know, And I acknowledged the fact he

1013
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:39,919
Speaker 1: had a value effort, but he just wasn't good enough.

1014
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 1: Patrick is on the line now, and Patrick, first off,

1015
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: thanks for joining us here on talking cowboys. Secondly, I

1016
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: want to give you a chance to rebuttal Isaiah has

1017
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: been talking about how he swept you at bowling last night,

1018
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 1: and I wanted to I want to hear from your side.

1019
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: Did that actually happen and was it as dominant as

1020
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: he says? So let me just break down everything for

1021
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: you guys, just just just go ahead and start from

1022
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 1: the top, because what he's not doing and he's not

1023
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: really telling the whole story of the reason why you

1024
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: got me. And I have no excuse, have no excuse.

1025
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: He beat me. But Isaiah travels with fifteen balls to

1026
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: the to the you know, to the to the lanes.

1027
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the hell he had? He had a

1028
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: chauffeur and brought in balls and a suitcase that had

1029
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: his balls in it. I don't know what I'm supposed

1030
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: to do right here, and so and so I get there.

1031
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: You know, I had to go get my ball out

1032
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: of the attic because you know, I don't. I haven't

1033
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: both I had, I had put the had put the

1034
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,919
Speaker 1: shoes up in the ball up. You know, I was like, sid,

1035
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 1: I retired. He brought me out of retirement. And he

1036
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: had just said he had just added what you yeah,

1037
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:57,439
Speaker 1: added what six more balls to your collection? A couple

1038
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 1: more last night. Well, I think he forgets to tell you,

1039
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 1: guys that he had picked the lane that to buddy

1040
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: of his. But the further and further let me know

1041
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 1: that he had put magnets into pins in his ball.

1042
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 1: So he had so he had a remote control on

1043
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: them get a root problem. Oh my god, supposed to

1044
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 1: do that? Good? What's cool? I get that. You know,

1045
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:23,800
Speaker 1: if you're not doing the Patriots model, you're not cheating,

1046
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: you ain't trying. He got me last night. He got

1047
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: me last night. I think I think I did both.

1048
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 1: Now I take that back. I was gonna say, I

1049
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: think I bowed the highest total. You bowed to one

1050
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: ninety one game, I bowed to one eighty four. Yeah,

1051
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 1: that's right. I know you wanted to stick with you,

1052
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 1: with your with your game Jersey never you know, but

1053
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: I had to go. I had to go Jake ratting

1054
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: up one night, so it was out. But man, it

1055
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 1: was all. It was all good fun man for for

1056
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: a good cause. Uh. You know, I think we uh

1057
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: we want some people some things. Last night I wish

1058
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 1: I could have want some people some more. But I

1059
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 1: wasn't on my a game and at times he was.

1060
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: And that's how it happened. And that's how it goes.

1061
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,240
Speaker 1: I mean, that's how sports goes. It's got the ebbs

1062
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,399
Speaker 1: and flows. You'll get him back, I'm sure. I'm sure

1063
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:08,919
Speaker 1: Isaiah will publicly. Yeah, I'm getting ready to I'm getting

1064
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 1: ready to u go over to the store in the

1065
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: second man and get me twenty seven balls. So, now,

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Speaker 1: as a former wide receiver and a former Dallas Cowboy,

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00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've kind of kept your finger on the

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00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 1: pulse whenever it comes to what the Cowboys have a

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00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 1: wide receiver at least heading into this twenty twenty season.

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00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,240
Speaker 1: The draft pick of CD Lamb, Michael Gallup, then Amari

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00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,359
Speaker 1: Cooper and his new deal. How good can this wide

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00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: receiving corps b not only just this year but moving forward?

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00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,760
Speaker 1: In your eyes? You know what I think moving forward

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00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,320
Speaker 1: past that we have. What I love about him is

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00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: I think they're all still young and hungry, you know,

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00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 1: And I think that's the that's the main part you have.

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00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 1: I think they still have a lot to prove. Amari

1078
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 1: just getting a new country. He has to prove he's

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00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: worth a hundred million dollars. And then you CD and

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00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 1: Gallup coming in that are both hungry guys, which I like,

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00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 1: you know, I hate that Jerry keeps wanting to put

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00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: eighty eight on every first round draft pick that he gets.

1083
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: CD wants to make his own mark and make his

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00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 1: own name, And I'm like, Jerry, let that man he

1085
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 1: wants to work ten. Why are you wanting to make

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00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 1: him eighty eight? He wants to be his own person.

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00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,359
Speaker 1: He doesn't want to be known as the next eighty eight.

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00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: He wants to be known as the first ten. So

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00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: that that kind of mindset is good. And I'm hoping

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00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: they don't try to put him in that box of

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00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 1: all the other eighty eights to where you know he

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00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 1: has do it, because I'm like, well, you just gave

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00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: Amark Cooper eighty eight type of money, but you're giving

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00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 1: this rookie that's coming in the number eighty eight. So

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00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, well which one of them? What do

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00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 1: you want them to be? But I think they can

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00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 1: move forward. I'm just waiting on them to hurry up

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00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 1: and get this Dak deal done. That's gonna be the

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00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 1: major thing moving forward, because you got to have a

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00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 1: quarterback throw to these guys, and I get it. You

1101
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 1: know you're going to get Andy Dalton. You know he's

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00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 1: the homegrown kid you bring it back home. But he

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00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 1: is not your franchise guy. You said back is your

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00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 1: franchise guy. That's good, and get this deal done. I

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00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: don't care what it looks like on paper, what is

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00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,439
Speaker 1: the fully guaranteed money. Get it done, move forward, Jerry,

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00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 1: because you know he's not gonna make it to the

1108
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 1: fifth theory anywhere anyway, so that forty five million on

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00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: paper doesn't matter. So get the deal done, make it happen.

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00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 1: Let's move forward. Now. I want to ask the question

1111
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 1: of and Isaiah could actually answer this as well, But

1112
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: whenever it comes to a wide receiver not really knowing

1113
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 1: what's going on with the situation of his quarterback, whether

1114
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:43,320
Speaker 1: it's a contract issue, health issue, there's just a question

1115
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 1: mark over that quarterback position. How much does that affect

1116
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 1: wide receivers going into a season. But I can't really

1117
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 1: answer that simply because I've never been in this situation,

1118
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:57,280
Speaker 1: But you know, you it does add to some comfort

1119
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: level and continuity. When you know you're gonna have the quarterback.

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00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: You know you've got ahead, so you get working and

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00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: hopefully you know Dak is out here working with these

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00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 1: guys on their own anyway, so you know, as long

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00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 1: as they're doing that, let the business stuff him with

1124
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:11,879
Speaker 1: the business stuff. You guys go out there and build

1125
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: up a relationship in a repertoire on the field, so

1126
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 1: when it comes time for September. You're ready to go. Hey,

1127
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: pat we did a show together, I guess the week

1128
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: of the Patriots game last November with one oh five

1129
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: three of the fan and back then it was like

1130
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 1: everything was still in front of this team. Yep, it

1131
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 1: didn't It didn't go so well in December right after that.

1132
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 1: A couple of two questions for you, why why do

1133
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: you think this team didn't quite take didn't take the

1134
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: step they needed to take last year. And I know

1135
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: you're a student of the game, and I know you

1136
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 1: played against Mike McCarthy's teams a few times a few

1137
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: years ago. Why do you think he's a good fit

1138
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 1: for this team coming in replacing Jason Karrett. No, I

1139
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 1: think he's a good fit simply because of his innovativeness.

1140
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 1: I love that you know him and Aaron Rodgers bumped

1141
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 1: heads because Aaron was trying to supersede the coach. But

1142
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy has proven himself to be you know, at

1143
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: one time they were considering him the best play calling

1144
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator in the game. And with this staple of

1145
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: weapons that he's gonna have, I think he's gonna be

1146
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 1: able to really open up that offense. But the biggest thing. Now,

1147
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 1: you know, he's got to be able to connect with

1148
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 1: Dak and start running the offense for Dak's strengths. The

1149
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 1: biggest thing you know they're gonna have is as long

1150
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 1: as they got a good running back. You know. I

1151
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 1: get it that they the Cowboys wanted Dak to stay

1152
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 1: in the pocket and put the pressure on him and

1153
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 1: everything so they could justify paying him. But at the

1154
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 1: end of the day, don't take away carries from your

1155
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 1: main threat offensively, and stop telling Dak to not run

1156
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 1: the damn ball. Run the ball that when you need

1157
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 1: to run the ball, I don't. Don't get labeled as

1158
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 1: a pocket passer. Who cares you're gonna get paid regardless.

1159
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, they're not pocket passers,

1160
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, they're not pocket passing. The day of that

1161
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,959
Speaker 1: oct Pastor stigma is gone. It is. It is gone

1162
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 1: pretty much because you cannot the way these d ns

1163
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 1: and these linebackers come. Then pocket pass if you want to.

1164
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 1: When you're gonna be over back a minute, PC man,

1165
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: it's heck Maharrison man. I want to tell you I'm

1166
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 1: a big fan of yours man, growing up here in

1167
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 1: the city of Dallas, Texas. I know your history at

1168
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 1: De Soto. Man, I've always compared you a lot to

1169
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 1: Cata of Kevin Williams from Roosevelt Man. Both of you

1170
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 1: guys big, big, big return guys and also possession guys

1171
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 1: here in Dallas for the Dallas Cowboys, but also with

1172
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 1: man with COVID nineteen and everything going on. I want,

1173
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: I'm itching to ask you about this, to know what

1174
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 1: did you think about the whole draft process and you

1175
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 1: being a local guy that actually got to live out

1176
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 1: his dream playing for the Dallas Cowboys and these guys

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00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 1: that are from the Metroplex not actually getting that opportunity

1178
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: to participate in Dallas Day. You know what, Like Dallas

1179
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 1: Day was a big thing for me. You know that

1180
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 1: that really kind of gives you that little I opening

1181
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 1: experience to the NFL. But I actually liked the experience

1182
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 1: they had this year because everyone was at home with

1183
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 1: their family, that was not having to go on stage

1184
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 1: and shake hands with Roger Goodell and sitting that green

1185
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 1: room dressed and suited. You could be at home with

1186
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: your family and enjoy the whole experience of it with

1187
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 1: your loved ones, not with the other people who in

1188
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 1: the media and everything and stuff like that. You know

1189
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, raw Roy and and and hustling you

1190
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 1: around and showing you where you gotta be. Oh man,

1191
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 1: that's good and everything for the goods and glamour, but

1192
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 1: it's not the real thing that you're going to see

1193
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 1: every day in the NFL. Good manrobably running through a

1194
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 1: wall or wanting to run through a wall after that

1195
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 1: that question being asked, Man, hema, heckma, smiling ear to

1196
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 1: hear with Patrick Craig PC PC from De Soto. Man,

1197
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 1: I know who PC is. Appreciated, man, you know everyone's

1198
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 1: finally can get you know, recognized, just how your name

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01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 1: seeing I'm feeling good and last night Isaiah beat the

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01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 1: Franks off for me. So geez well, Patrick, we we

1201
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: thank you for coming on and we apologize that our

1202
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 1: fellow Isaiah, I just couldn't. Couldn't at least let you

1203
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 1: win one to Kyle, he ain't supposed let me win. No,

1204
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 1: that's how you know I'm gonna get you back. I

1205
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 1: know I'm gonna get you by in case y'all didn't know,

1206
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 1: and PC knows the story. I know we gotta get

1207
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 1: a log off. But my first day of practice, I

1208
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 1: remember I got drafted. I was a quarterback quarterback in college,

1209
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 1: but I got drafted as a receiver, so I had

1210
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 1: no idea how to play receiver. I knew nothing about it.

1211
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 1: Right when I stepped on the field for the first day,

1212
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 1: and PC and Teo clowned the crap out of me

1213
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 1: because I had on every pad that you can possibly

1214
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 1: a great thing. He looked like a damn hockey play goad. Dang, dude,

1215
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 1: why why are you dressed like the man? So any

1216
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:04,919
Speaker 1: time I get a chance to get back at PC,

1217
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 1: I gotta talk to take every advantage I got. Gotta

1218
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 1: take the chance you gotta. You gotta get them back.

1219
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 1: But Patrick Craton joining us here on talking cowboys. Patrick

1220
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 1: thinks so much, and we'll look forward to talking to

1221
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 1: you again soon. No, man, man, absolutely, man, you guys

1222
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 1: let me know. I'm sorry I was late, but yeah,

1223
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 1: please feel free hit me up next time. See me

1224
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 1: like a faith notification text. Because I was. I was bitty,

1225
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 1: so you gotta hit me up with a romand I

1226
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 1: had much many moving parts. You're a busy man. We

1227
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 1: get that. We're gonna do it. We'll do better on

1228
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 1: our party getting you on the show Quicker, but that

1229
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 1: is gonna do it here for this edition of Talking Cowboys,

1230
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 1: do you want to thank every single one of you

1231
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 1: for sticking around over the last hour on Dallas Cowboys

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01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 1: dot Com Before Isaiah Standback for heck My Harrison, for

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01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 1: Rob Phillips and our guest Patrick Crayton. I'm Kyle Yeoman

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01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 1: saying so long for this week you're on Talking Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys four o'clock How long you know