1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in Clay Travis and Buck 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: Sexton Show Final, our Thursday edition. Want you to help 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: us beat NPR and the New York Times. Right now 5 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 1: as you are listening to the two of us, we 6 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: are the number four news show in the entire country. 7 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: We are losing to NPR and the New York Times 8 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: Comber four on podcast podcast. We are the biggest probably 9 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,959 Speaker 1: in all the world of radio. But what we can 10 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: look at are these charts. 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Go subscribe, give 29 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: us a five star review, and help us kick some 30 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: dirt in the New York Times and nprs face. We 31 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: want to swim in NPR tiers. Help us create a 32 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: river of NPR tillet. I will do a cannonball into it. 33 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: I will splash it all around. That's what we want. 34 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: That's what we're looking for. Speaking of splashing it around, 35 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: that's quite a lead we have got now, Buck. A massive, seismic, 36 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: substantial change that is going on in college athletics today. Name, image, 37 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: and like became officially legal all over the country. And 38 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: for people out there who might wonder what this is about. 39 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: For generations, the NC double A has not allowed college 40 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: athletes to make any money off of their name, image, 41 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: or likeness. Means Buck. For example, if you were an 42 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: athlete and you wanted to sign an autograph, you couldn't 43 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: get paid for that autograph. The analogy I like to 44 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: use Johnny Manziel, who was a Heisman Trophy winning quarterback 45 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: at Texas A and M. Kids could show up in 46 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: his classroom at Texas A and M pass him a 47 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 1: sports illustrated with him on the cover. If he signed 48 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: it for them, they could take it straight to eBay 49 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: and immediately sell it. If Johnny Manziel did that, he 50 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: would be ineligible. I think a lot of people out 51 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: there are like, Wow, this is crazy. So now in 52 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: a social media age, every athlete out there is now 53 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: eligible and able to make as much money as they 54 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: possibly can off of their name, image and likeness. And 55 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 1: you were going to have in short order a lot 56 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: of different athletes become millionaires basically overnight when this law 57 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: change starting today, and there are a lot of people 58 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: out there asking all sorts of questions about what this 59 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: might mean going forward, and we've been talking off the 60 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: air buck about a lot of this. You are a 61 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: fairness ay casual college sports fan. I think you're kind 62 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: of fascinated by this too, because it's such a difference 63 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: over what historically has been the rule. Even as somebody 64 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: who went to a D three college where I could say, 65 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: quite honestly, I could care less about what the football 66 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: team at my school was doing because we had sixteen 67 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: hundred students, so you can imagine it was not exact. 68 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: We weren't packing eighty thousand, hundred thousand person stadiums. Quite 69 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: the opposers trying to get people to go to the games. 70 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: But I've always been fascinated by you know, we're talking 71 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: about the irs before and how they can always get you. 72 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: I do know from watching, for example, The Blind Side, 73 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: right the movie, Then if the NC double A decided 74 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: they were going to get you on something, and it's 75 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: a stuff as simple as you say, signing an autograph 76 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: and getting paid for it, or I think accepting meals right, 77 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: we are a food if you got a state done, 78 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: and that always just seemed bizarre, and you had these players, 79 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: and so again, I'm more professional sports in my general area, 80 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 1: and quite honestly, I'm not really into watching that much 81 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 1: in professional sports. College I just sort of knew from 82 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: paying attention to the news cycle college athletics, I mean, 83 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 1: and I would see this stuff happening. It never seem 84 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: to make sense. He had coaches who were the highest 85 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: paid in state after state right placed like Oklahoma, Nebraska, 86 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: making millions of dollars. And yet the players, if they 87 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 1: do anything, are treated They're treated like they're bad people, 88 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: by the way, I mean, like they've done something horrible 89 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: for what exactly? That all changes now, Yeah, the NC 90 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: double A basically has no reason to exist now. But 91 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 1: because as you were just talking, one of their primary goals, 92 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: in fact, their primary goal in life was to investigate 93 00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: what they called improper benefits and an improper ben It 94 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: would be, oh you get a free stake dinner. Oh 95 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: you get one hundred dollar handshake because a booster is 96 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: excited about the way you played at a game and 97 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: they walk up and they shake your hand and they 98 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 1: pass one hundred dollar bill to you. All of that 99 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: could render you ineligible. And all the media, by the way, 100 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: in sports, would do investigations based on this. And I 101 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: always argued on my sports talk radio show, this to 102 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: me felt fundamentally anti American. To me, because I believe 103 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: in capitalism, sell your labor for as much money as 104 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: you possibly can. And most people who would believe in 105 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: capitalism would argue that not being able to sell your 106 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: autograph not really a very American foundation. And basically the 107 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 1: purpose of the nc DOUBLEA was to ensure if you 108 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: were poor when you started school, that you were still 109 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: poor when you finished school and when you went to college. 110 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: And a lot of our listeners out there went to 111 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: college or have experience around colleges. There's a wide variety 112 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: of income levels in college. There's rich kids at college, 113 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: there's poor kids in college. Having a rich parent is 114 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: not an improper benefit, but having an ability to make 115 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 1: money off of your talents while you're in college was 116 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: completely prohibited. I think this is going to raise big 117 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: questions about the whole premise of the scholar athlete that 118 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: is used by the NCAA at these schools. Look, let's 119 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: let's call this what it is. The NCUBLEA has created 120 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 1: a system and we're really I'm not talking about fencing, 121 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: you know, I knew some guys who went to Gale 122 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 1: for fencing or went to Stanford for salaing or whatever. 123 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: We're talking about the big sports really just football and basketball, 124 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: and some schools you could throw some some other sports 125 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: in the mix. But universities have been operating minor league 126 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: sports franchises to the benefit of the professional leagues and 127 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 1: also operating under the pretense that this is this is 128 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: the scholar athlete paradigm of oh, well, they're getting paid 129 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: by being there to get an education. And you look, 130 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: and there have been plenty I've seen some of the investigations, 131 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: you know, HBO Real Sports has done them and others, 132 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: you know, stretching back a long time. And I know, Clay, 133 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: this is right in the center your wheelhouse. There are 134 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: plenty of these players who graduate and to say that 135 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: they got an education is obviously an absurdity, and they 136 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: were actually just brought there to effectively be sports mercenaries. 137 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: So the whole NC double a narrative here seems to 138 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: be not only is it changing with regard to how 139 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: these athletes will be able to make money, but also 140 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: what place do these programs really have in the schools 141 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: and how do other students feel about the prospect now 142 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: of not only will you know the quarterback at a 143 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: at a Big ten school or the SEC be the 144 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: big man on campus, so to speak, he could be 145 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: a millionaire when he's nineteen. And you can imagine all 146 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: of the complexities this is going to create because as 147 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: you just hit on every player doesn't have the same value. 148 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: So what will the locker room dynamics look like when 149 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: you've got an offensive the line where most of those 150 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: guys are anonymous and nobody really knows them, and suddenly 151 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: they're blocking for a quarterback that's going to make over 152 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: a million dollars a year in name, image, and likeness. Also, 153 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: how will social media balance all this out? Because you 154 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: mentioned I think it's significant football and men's basketball are 155 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: the only two revenue producing sports. The most famous athletes 156 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: on campus are football and men's basketball players. But also 157 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: there are a lot of women athletes who stand to 158 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: make a ton of money because they have developed their 159 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: own social media followings on Instagram, on Twitter, on TikTok, 160 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 1: wherever it might be. And how are those power dynamics 161 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: going to alter the collegiate experience when, as you mentioned, 162 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: you might have had in the past and Nick Saban 163 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 1: making eight or nine million dollars a year to coach, 164 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: and usually the guys that he's been coaching are hoping 165 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: to make the pro ranks. What happens when you've got 166 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: a quarterback making a million dollars a year who signed 167 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: these massive marketing deals and then he gets benched, and 168 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: you've got a booster who comes in and says, wait 169 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: a minute, the reason I paid this guy a million 170 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 1: dollars was because he was gonna be the starting quarterback. 171 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: And also, what's going to happen with a shoe deal? 172 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: For instance, Let's say Nike is the shoe provider of 173 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: the college. Is Adida's going to swoop in and say, hey, 174 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: we'll give money to the quarterback and he's gonna play 175 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: in a different shoe and what is all this money 176 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 1: flooding in? By the way, they're gonna have agents, so 177 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: they're gonna have lawyers. Who's gonna you're gonna have nineteen 178 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: year old eighteen year old kids who are involved in 179 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: these kinds with major corporations in the sports world. Who 180 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: you know, what's gonna happen there? I mean, I guess 181 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to get lawyers and agents and stuff. 182 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: But but it's just going to show that the whole dynamic, 183 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: this whole system has been full of the house of cars, 184 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: a lot of inconsistencies, and a lot of make believe 185 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: about what's really going on. It's really happening, and we 186 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 1: all know people, I mean, you know much more than I. 187 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: You've been to a lot of college sports games. I've 188 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: been covering college sports for a long time. People love 189 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 1: their college sports. This is going to change the dynamic 190 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: a lot. The money is going to be unlike anything 191 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: we've ever seen in college athletics before, and with money 192 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 1: as notorious Big told us, more money, more problems, what 193 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 1: buck out? I'm genuinely fascinated to think about if a 194 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: quarterback has a million dollars, let's say, and he's nineteen 195 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 1: years old, think about the kind of problems you can 196 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: get into with a million dollars. Doesn't take very much 197 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: money to be a rich kid in college. You got 198 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: one hundred bucks in your pocket, you can have an 199 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: amazing night. Yeah, I mean being a millionaire quarterback you're 200 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: freshman year will probably be fun too. Oh the magic 201 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: part problems. Imagine the parties that are going to get thrown, 202 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: Imagine the people who are going to roll into these 203 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: college towns with money to be had. I just I 204 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: think it is going to be a unbelievable spectacle. I've 205 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: always argued that college football is the most uniquely American 206 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: of all sports because of all its contradictions and hypocrisies. 207 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: But it's also the most fun. I don't think that 208 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 1: anybody has any clue what has begun today in terms 209 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: of its long range impact on the sport. Clay, let's 210 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: also get into the anniversary here this hour of the 211 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 1: Chinese Communist Party and some very interesting statements from Premier 212 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: Shi Jinping of China. Plus we've got those statues that 213 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: Pelosi wants out of the Capital. I know you've got 214 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: a lot of thoughts on that one. We'll be getting 215 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: into it and we'll try to take some calls at 216 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: the back end of this hour. Eight hundred two eight 217 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: two two eight eight two. 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In 241 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 1: a speech marking the Chinese Communist parties one hundredth anniversary, 242 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: he said, China quote won't allow any foreign force to 243 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: bully or press the country, adding anyone who dares try 244 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: to do that, we'll have their heads bashed bloody against 245 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: the great Wall of steel, A great wall of steel. 246 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: It's a warning call from Chinese President shi Jing Ping 247 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: hi Jing Peng at the one hundredth anniversary the founding 248 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: of the Chinese Communist Party. He's aiming at America. China 249 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: won't be bullied and it won't be lectured. President. She 250 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: says that any foreign force would quote find themselves on 251 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: a collision course with a great wall of steel. Yeah, 252 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: hundredth anniversary of the party and basically saying number one 253 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: goal get Taiwan to be backed as a Chinese province. 254 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 1: We cannot afford that to happen. And I hope that 255 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 1: there's a response. Welcome back to the Clay Travison buck 256 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: Sexton Show. I'm buck Sexton, and I got to tell 257 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: you one of the lasting legacies of the Trump administration 258 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: was the change in the national conversation around China and 259 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: what's really going on with them on all fronts, trade, military, 260 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: and intelligence ambitions, and just that the Chinese Communist Party 261 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: is seeking to supplant the United States as the global hegemon. 262 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: Today you have the hundred year anniversary celebration and you 263 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: heard some of the kind of rhetoric that is coming 264 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: not from just Chinese state media, which is also often 265 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: very inflammatory and very aggressive. I mean, here is this 266 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: is through a translator, obviously, this is this is the 267 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: Chinese Premier Shi jin Ping specifically speaking about the United 268 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: States and and anybody out there who may try to 269 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: bully the Chinese people play fourteen. At the same time, 270 00:14:56,240 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: the Chinese people will never allow ourselves to be bullied, oppressed, 271 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: or enslaved by any foreign powers. Anyone who dares to 272 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: try will find their heads bashed bloody against a great 273 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: wall of steel forged by over one point four billion 274 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: Chinese people. Heads bashed bloody. Now that there's some background 275 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: here about Hijin Pang that I always think people should 276 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: know when you're talking about the premiere of what is 277 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: clearly the second most powerful country in the world. He 278 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: was in many ways a victim of the cultural revolution 279 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: of Moose cultural Revolution, and he's somebody who still very 280 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: much remembers what that was like. His half sister was 281 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: persecuted the point where she took her own life. This 282 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: was during the Cultural revolution period, and she the guy 283 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: that used her. Of the premiere of China right now, 284 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: one point four billion people, he had to flee, and 285 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: he was among the exiles who were youths who had 286 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: to take to the countryside in the Mao era. He 287 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: lived Clay for a while in a cave to try 288 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: to avoid the Red Guards of the Chinese Communist Party 289 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: and their purges and their violence in order to try 290 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: to secure power. This is in living memory. These things 291 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: were happening. I mean the Great, the Great, the Great 292 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: lead forward, and the Cultural revolution, the Great Famine, I 293 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: mean when the Great. Of course, you're just talking about 294 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: the scope and scale of these things. Millions and millions 295 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: of people killed in the famine. They estimate up to 296 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: twenty twenty to forty million, dependent on whose numbers you believe. 297 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: And this is not the second most powerful country of 298 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: the world, Clay, and they've got ambitions. Just imagine when 299 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: he says the heads bashed bloody of anyone that would 300 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: stand up to China's cultural hegemony. Imagine if Donald Trump 301 00:16:55,840 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 1: had said, where you will bash heads bloody all on 302 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: the statue of liberty? Because the Great Wall of China 303 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: is the defining cultural signpost I think for most people, 304 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: both in China and around the world, of their overall power. 305 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: And I just I think you're right Buck when you 306 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,719 Speaker 1: say that the lasting legacy of Trump is going to 307 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: be in many ways his relationship with China and the 308 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: fact that the Biden administration on some level has basically 309 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: tried to continue everything that Trump did about China. Trump 310 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: came on with us Tuesday, Buck and pointed out, hey, 311 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 1: they're still keeping the tariffs. They are trying in some 312 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: way to stand up to China, and to me, this 313 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: speech is just further evidence, as if we needed it 314 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: at all, that we are in a modern day Cold 315 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 1: war that is more significant than the one that we 316 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: were allied against in the nineteen eighties with the Soviet Union. 317 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: Will come back in just a few moments here with 318 00:17:55,320 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: some wisdom from Rush himself on Commune is M and 319 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: the threat thereof. So we'll address that, especially on this 320 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: one hundredth anniversary of the Chinese Communist Party. It's a 321 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: time to remind everybody what's really going on. 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You just heard 338 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: Chairman Z saying that he would bash the heads bloody 339 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 1: of anyone who would dare to stand up to China, 340 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: by the way, bash their heads bloody on the Chinese wall, 341 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 1: and that this is a sign of the modern Cold 342 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: War that we're in, and one that Rush addressed very 343 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: succinctly and smartly as it pertains to the impact of 344 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 1: communism around the world. Listen, all my life, I have 345 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: been asking myself why so many leftists are supportive of 346 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: communism when everybody knows I thought everybody knows communism kills 347 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: Communism denies liberty and freedom. Communism equals poverty. Communism equals 348 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: political prisons. Communism builds walls to keep people in because 349 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 1: everybody wants to leave. And in that context, I've always said, 350 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: how comes so many most of them in the media 351 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: and many of the democrat But why do they wax 352 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: so eloquently of communism? What it was it about? Garbat, 353 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: chaff and Cuba and Chekavara? My grandparents. When Nikita Khruschev 354 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: shows up at the UN, pounds his shoe and says, 355 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 1: we will bury you, We will do whatever to your grandchildren, 356 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: they had no choice but them to believe it. They 357 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 1: took the threat seriously. So my political education, if you will, 358 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: was focused on the evils of communism and the failures worldwide. 359 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: And during this entire period, as I would grow older 360 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: and become even more informed about it, more educated, I 361 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: couldn't escape seeing your average news anchor here, or news 362 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: reporter or New York Times writer just speak and write 363 00:20:55,840 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: fawningly of individual communists, leaders, practitioners, countries and sulf It 364 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: never made any sense, how, knowing what I knew about communism, 365 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: How in the world can these people not see the 366 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: inherent evil and in fact as journalists, what is it 367 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 1: that made them oblivious to the fact that if we 368 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: ever did fall prey to communists, they'd be the first 369 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 1: people put in jail, They'd be the first people shut up. 370 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 1: There is no such thing as freedom of the press. 371 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: It's state run media here, state run media there, which 372 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: many would argue we already have here, lighthearted way. One 373 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: of the worst parts of the history of mainstream journalism 374 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 1: in America play as you know, has to do with 375 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: the long and storied history of outlets in the West 376 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: being Communist sympathizers, having people like I'm most notably in 377 00:21:56,080 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 1: Walter Duranti of the New York Times, who denied the famine, 378 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: the Holidamour and the USSR in Ukraine, particularly the Great 379 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 1: famine that was occurring there. Just you know, yeah, it's 380 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 1: it's not not a big deal, not a big problem. 381 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: We got an important utopia to create in the Soviet Union. 382 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 1: You have journalists and the American Look, the American left 383 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 1: has a long standing fondness for and even a history 384 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: of direct support for. You can go back to read 385 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: Whittaker Chambers Witness, which is a book I would recommend 386 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: if anyone reading has not you go and read that 387 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: it's about his transformation as an American who was supportive 388 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,360 Speaker 1: of and working for Communist to somebody who became an 389 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 1: anti communist. But the left, Clay, they they always have this, 390 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: this long standing fondness, and it persists to this day. Well, 391 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: and I think there are a lot of people out 392 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: there who don't remember what it's like to have a 393 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: great enemy, because think about it, Buck, if you have 394 00:22:55,880 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 1: been born since nineteen eighty five or so, you have 395 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: grown up in an America where there's no real threat, 396 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 1: where you don't ever go to bed at night and think, 397 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: I wonder might have what might happen if we go 398 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: to war with the Soviet Union? What's it like to 399 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: be engaging in a battle of wills for the future 400 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: of the free world. And people who are around my 401 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: age are the last people who grew up with that 402 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: knowledge and that idea of what it meant for the 403 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: Berlin Wall to come down, what it meant for Ronald 404 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: Reagan to stand in West Berlin and say, mister Gorba Chav, 405 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: tear down this wall. And I feel like that has 406 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: led to a willful blindness, as has arisen over China. 407 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: People have not been willing buck to recognize that right 408 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: now we are in a battle for the future of 409 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: the world, because it felt like we won and China's 410 00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: cultural ascendency has been happening. The analogy I've been using 411 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: is buck, they have been fomenting disunion in our country, 412 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 1: punching us all in the back of the head while 413 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: we argue with each other. At least with Russia, we 414 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: knew what was going on. Our media has been willfully 415 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: blind to the rise of China and their attempt to 416 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: take over the world. I'd say it's worse than that 417 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 1: in some respects too. When you get a sense of 418 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: how widespread and how deep the penetration of Chinese influence, 419 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 1: Chinese Communist Party influences in the United States, this is 420 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 1: when we're talking about China. This is an authoritarianism. It's 421 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: really a totalitarianism. It's a police state. They operate concentration 422 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: camps for wagers in Shinjang Province in the West. They 423 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: do not allow freedom of speech, They do not allow 424 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: the open Internet to function within their borders. They engage 425 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: in unprecedented theft of intellectual property and trade secrets, which 426 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 1: are the lifeblood of a modern economy. Let's remember that 427 00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: our technological advantage in America is really from a a 428 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: commerce perspective. It's we've just got technology and capitalism, and 429 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 1: that's really why we're so rich in America and have 430 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: done so well. Other people can do a lot of 431 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: things in other places if they take one of those 432 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: two away from us. And in China you have effectively 433 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: state directed forms of capitalism, so they've embraced some aspects 434 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: of a market, so you have some free market activity 435 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 1: or at least market activity with totalitarian regime, with a 436 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: totalitarian regime sitting atop the whole thing and are directing 437 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: all of it. In this country, we have ultra celebrity multimillionaires, 438 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,719 Speaker 1: near billionaires with some of the professional athletes, for example, 439 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: we could talk about Lebron James comes to mind, among 440 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: others companies, great American brands like Disney and others who 441 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: bend the knee to this country that we're talking about, 442 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: China that has still to this day, if anything, actually 443 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 1: clamped down even more on freedom of speech in the 444 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:03,959 Speaker 1: Internet era, and there's no sense of changing this. I mean, 445 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: the great belief in the West, and this was the 446 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: problem in the thinking of the elites and the intelligentsia 447 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 1: such as they are on this issue, was will help 448 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,479 Speaker 1: starting the nineteen eighties, will help China become a wealthy 449 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: country and then it will become a free country that 450 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,479 Speaker 1: will play nice with the rest of the world. False. 451 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: That experiment failed. It took us maybe thirty or forty 452 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: years to figure it out. But they didn't become They 453 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,479 Speaker 1: became wealthier, more powerful, didn't become more free. No, they 454 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: want to destroy us, and I think a lot of 455 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: Americans don't understand that, and they want to humiliate us. 456 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: You're talking about Lebron James. How about John Cena, the 457 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: new movie that is out F nine Fast and the Furious. 458 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: If you haven't watched it, your kids or your grandkids 459 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: probably have. They've made so many different ones. John Cena 460 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: said Taiwan was a country in order for F nine 461 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 1: to play in China, John Cena, famous wrestler who has 462 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 1: transitioned into actor, had to have one of those hostage videos. 463 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about where he apologies in 464 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: Mandarin to all the Chinese people for suggesting for having 465 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: the gall the audacity, the temerity, the gumption to come 466 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: out and say what we all know to be true, Buck, 467 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 1: which is Taiwan's a country and it's independent from China. Now, 468 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: if you see what's going on in Hong Kong Apple Daily, 469 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: there are a lot of people out there who can say, 470 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: and I do think this is where our next global 471 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 1: conflict is going to arise. Do we have the stones 472 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 1: to stand up to China if they suddenly decide they're 473 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: going to invade Taiwan. And this is also where the 474 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: Biden family, and specifically Hunter Biden, and this is where 475 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 1: it really starts to matter, because they're just symbolic. I think, 476 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: well more than that they're at with Hunter Biden. I 477 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: think you could argue there at the center of it, 478 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 1: but of the betrayal by the elites of America, the 479 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: betrayal of the American people in order to have access 480 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: to Chinese markets and let's be honest, access to Chinese 481 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 1: Communist Party cash in one form or another. This has 482 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: been a long standing story. It has been a sellout 483 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: of folks who are just working, doing their jobs, paying 484 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 1: their mortgages, sending their kids to school, and trying to 485 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: enjoy this place we know of as America. They've been 486 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: sold out by the elites of their own country to 487 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 1: China more than any other country on Earth. And we're 488 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 1: just now, I think, in that early stage process of 489 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: waking up to it and understanding what those long term 490 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: implications will be. I mean, just think of it this way. 491 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: One point four billion people. This is what Chi Jinping 492 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: is saying. This is a country that knows it is 493 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: ascendant and it's politics. It's sure, it's authoritarian, but it's 494 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,719 Speaker 1: also unified. You're not going to have anybody standing up 495 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: who represents China at the Olympics, I can assure you, 496 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: and turning their back on the flag or saying China. 497 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: And this is a country with actual concentration camps operating, 498 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: You'll have no athletes over there talking about the lack 499 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: of freedom or anything else. We all know why. There's 500 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: no doubt. And and by the way, let's play that eleven, 501 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: there would never be anybody as we get ready for 502 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: the Olympics. There would never be a hammer thrower like 503 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: Gwen Barry, who, by the way you saw this buck 504 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: had a picture of herself bathed in the American flag 505 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: just a few years ago. Now she was the one 506 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: who was so angry about the National Anthem being racist. 507 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: Listen to this. She would never be allowed to say 508 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: this about China history. If you know your history, you'd 509 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: know the full song of the National Anthem. The dirt 510 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: paragraphs speaks to slaves in America, our blood being slang 511 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,959 Speaker 1: and piltered all over the floor. It's disrespectful and it 512 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: does not speak for Black Americans. It's obvious. Not surprisingly, 513 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: she got the history wrong. In fact, if you talk 514 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: to most historians who have analyzed Francis scott keys Majestic Poem, 515 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: there he was talking about British impressment of American soldiers, 516 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: not slavery in the United States. But it's not a 517 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: surprise that she would fall victim to the predominant view 518 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,479 Speaker 1: that is spread throughout social media and happens to be wrong. 519 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: I want to talk to you right now about the 520 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: tragedy of nine to eleven. We are almost twenty years 521 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: to the day since nine eleven, and the Tunnel to 522 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: Towers Foundation carries forward a legacy of courage and heroism 523 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: to mark twenty years. Tunnel to Towers is gifting America's 524 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: heroes and their families with two hundred mortgage free homes 525 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: to honor the fallen chairman and CEO, Frank Siller, walks 526 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: more than five hundred miles through six states in forty 527 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: two days from the Pentagon to Shanksville, Pennsylvania, culminating and 528 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: ground zero on nine eleven, Towers of Light return to 529 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: the Pentagon and Shanksville Memorials in remembrance for the first time, 530 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: those we lost to nine eleven related illness are being 531 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: honored at a ceremony September twelfth, on Veterans Day, another 532 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: first soldiers we lost in the War on Terror having 533 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: their names read aloud the words never forget, require action, 534 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: do good, and take action now for just eleven dollars 535 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: a month at T twot dot org. That's t the 536 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: number two T dot org. Make your donation today. All Right, 537 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: we're in the final stretch of the Clay, Travis and 538 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show, which I think we're just gonna start 539 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: colloquially calling the Clay and Buck Show too. But we 540 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: want you to know our full names. I suppose make 541 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: sure we don't confuse us with other Clays and other 542 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: Bucks out there. But I've got to tell you we 543 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: want to take some calls today and I Clay and 544 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: I got so fired enough about so many topics that 545 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,719 Speaker 1: we haven't gotten yet to the statue removal thing, and 546 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: the Clay wants to nerd out on some history with it, 547 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: and so we will do that Friday, that we will 548 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: get to it tomorrow. And also, of course, and keeping 549 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: with some tradition here on the Mighty EIB, we'll have 550 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: pretty much in an open line Friday. I think we're 551 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: gonna keep that going because we want to hear from 552 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: all of you. With that in mind, we did want 553 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: to take some calls today, and for those listening, please 554 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: make sure if you have not already subscribed to the 555 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck podcast, go wherever you listen to podcasts. 556 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: The iHeart app is a great place to start. You 557 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: can also listen to an Apple podcast or wherever you 558 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: get them. We gotta beat those comedies at NPR. All right, 559 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: Alex from Wormleysburg, Pennsylvania. You're on the Clay, Travis and 560 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show Show Honors, sir. Hey, you were on 561 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: Got Failed, great show. Oh yeah, back in the day, 562 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: Greg Got Failed to Fox News was the first person 563 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,959 Speaker 1: to ever put me on cable news and Alex it 564 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: was ten years ago. Boom, and I just did his 565 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: show recently. He's he's, by the way, beating a lot 566 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: of the late night comedy shows. It just does a 567 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: better shomedy and quotation mark because so many of them 568 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: have just become politics by any other name. But that's 569 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: a great show on Fox News, and he does a 570 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: fantastic red Eye. I was a regular on The Red 571 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: Eye Show on Fox, which was a great time, and 572 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: a lot of people got their start there, and some 573 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: big There are some big stars that actually began on 574 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: Red Eye that later on the really sort of hit 575 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: it big in comedy and other things that. Alex, what 576 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: else you got on your mind? Well, I just wanted 577 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: to before I get into that, I just want to 578 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: thank you guys. I liked this tag team new thing. 579 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: I think Rush would liked it. It's a new evolution 580 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: that there's two of you there doing your thing together. 581 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: It is an evolution and it's great. You guys are 582 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: both good. But my suggestion to you is, I got 583 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: a name for your show. It's the clay Bucks Show. 584 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: The clay Buck Show. Yeah, clay Buck Show. That's it. 585 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: That all the other stuff just clay Buck. I think 586 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: that's cool that that just nails it. All right, Alex, 587 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 1: we'll appreciate some of the some of the branding advice 588 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: on that, my friend, And thank you so much for 589 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: listening and appreciating what we're doing so far, because we 590 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: really are. We're putting everything we got into every show. 591 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: That's the only way we do it, and that's why 592 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna keep doing it. Let's go to Steve in 593 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: San Juan Capistrano, California, which is just fun to say. Hi, guys, 594 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: thank you very much for having me about the MC 595 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: two eight with the Supreme Court and the payment to 596 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 1: the athletes. Um, if you take the top one hundred 597 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: and twenty five schools which are known as the Big 598 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 1: Five Conference, those average those athletes are making one hundred 599 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: thousand plus a year in total compensation. Now some a 600 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: little less, some a little bit more. But if you 601 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: want to keep it equitable, you need not to pay 602 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: the athletes because the big money is going to go 603 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: once again to the big top thirty twenty five thirty 604 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 1: teams like the Alabama, the Clemson's, the Dames, the USCS, 605 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: and the small schools. You could have a Mike Trout 606 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 1: playing at Wyoming, they're not Nobody's going to buy that jersey. 607 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: Nobody wants to wear a Wyoming jersey. People are going 608 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 1: to want to wear an Alabama or a usc jersey, 609 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: so to speak. And then you're going to have a 610 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: huge inequity on top of that. Who was men getting 611 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 1: ten to fifty times more than a woman athlete from this? 612 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: It's it's a really fascinating question. Sorry, sorry, Steve, it's 613 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 1: a fascinating question you're asking. And the reality is we 614 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 1: are just starting a new experiment and a new paradigm 615 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: in terms of compensation. Because as you're raising, Steve, and 616 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: for people out there who are just becoming aware of this, 617 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: college athletes are now capable of being paid for their name, image, 618 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: and whiteness. How is this going to impact? With Title 619 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 1: nine requiring equal scholarships? How is this money which is 620 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: going to go overwhelmingly I believe to football players and 621 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: men's basketball players, which are the only two sports that 622 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: produce profit, going to impact the legality of all of this? 623 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: Right all scholarship athletes have to be treated the same 624 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: under Title nine? Right now, how will name, image and 625 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 1: likeness factor in there? I believe we're gonna have five 626 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 1: to ten years of lawsuits before we know what the 627 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: final policy is gonna end up looking like Buck Sexton 628 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 1: and I believe that everybody listening to us now should 629 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: certainly check us out on social media if you're not already. 630 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 1: It's a great way to stay in touch with us. 631 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,800 Speaker 1: Clay is putting out sports hot takes and politics stuff. 632 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: Me too. I'll even tell you about probably what restaurant 633 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: I wandered to tonight in Nashville if you want that 634 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 1: inside baseball behind the scenes stuff. Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, Buck 635 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 1: Sexton and Clay Travis follow us as individuals, and the 636 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 1: show handle is at Clay and Buck. So at Clayinbuck 637 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 1: dot com. What do we got their? Clay, I want 638 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 1: to beat the New York Times and I want to 639 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 1: beat in PR. We're just behind them. Go subscribe to 640 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 1: the podcast, give us five stars, and let's kick their asses. 641 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 1: Rolling into July fourth weekend. Back with you tomorrow, everybody, 642 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,839 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for being here with us. Always great fun. 643 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: The Clay and Buck Show over and out until tomorrow. 644 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 1: You're listening to Clay Travis and Buck Sexton on the 645 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 1: EIB Network.