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Speaker 2: This is the Best of the Herd with Colin cowher

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Speaker 1: Here we go on a Monday. Colin Wright, Colin wrong.

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Speaker 1: Let's roll it.

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Speaker 3: Where Colin was right?

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Speaker 1: Oh, the offensively tone def Steelers. Mike Tomlin can't help himself.

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Speaker 1: Gave TJ. Watt the biggest non quarterback contract in the league.

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Speaker 1: They will once again lead the NFL in defensive spending.

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Speaker 1: It's not the player, but they paid Jalen Ramsey, they

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Speaker 1: played Darius Slay, they paid TJ.

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Speaker 3: Watt.

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Speaker 1: Yet they can't get their offensive line right. They let

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Speaker 1: Najee Harris go. It's not that Mike Tomlin's on a

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Speaker 1: good coach. This organization spends two much money. Billy doesn't. Rams,

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Speaker 1: don't Niners let defensive guys go. Kansas City doesn't pay defense.

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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh does. Where Colin was wrong?

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Speaker 1: Just when I gave the WNBA players credit for in

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Speaker 1: a private poll naming Kitlin Clark is the face of

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Speaker 1: the league going forward. And then Kelsey Plumb comes out

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Speaker 1: takes a shot at Caitlyn Clark because her team wasn't

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Speaker 1: present for you know, the meetings they're having regarding the negotiation.

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Speaker 1: She said it was a very powerful moment wearing those

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Speaker 1: T shirts. But she said, you know, nobody from team

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Speaker 1: Caitlyn Clark was present.

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Speaker 3: Can we stop?

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Speaker 1: You guys are flying private. There's one reason Caitlin Clark.

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Speaker 1: Somebody joined the band that's roy popular. You're traveling in style.

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Speaker 1: Give it a break.

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Speaker 3: Where Colin was right.

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Speaker 1: NFL executives, scouts and coaches last week ranked Jalen her

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Speaker 1: ninth best quarterback in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: That's what I've said.

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Speaker 1: Character, leadership, playmaking, strength excellent. Love him, but from the pocket.

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Speaker 1: After a Week five by the Eagles coaching staff reduced

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Speaker 1: a number of passes thrown per game to twenty four

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Speaker 1: and they were a better offense. Nobody's doing that for

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Speaker 1: Mahomes or Josh Allen. I can like a player, but say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's limitations. Greg co SEL's been saying this for a year.

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Speaker 1: I love Jalen Hurts, He's not an elite pocket thrower.

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Speaker 3: Consistently, where Colin was right, well.

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Speaker 1: I said, Penn State I've set up for the last

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Speaker 1: month is the best team in the Big Ten. It's

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Speaker 1: not Ohio State. Even though the Buckeys have the best

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Speaker 1: offensive player and the best defensive player and Ryan Day.

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Speaker 1: Penn State was just awarded the media poll over Ohio

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Speaker 1: at the time who wins it. But I think the

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Speaker 1: Big Ten, we've been on it for a year, has

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Speaker 1: overtaken the SEC is the best program.

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Speaker 3: And the fact that Penn State gets.

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Speaker 1: Higher rated by the media that knows those programs over

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Speaker 1: the Buckeyes. We'll bring back the tech best two players

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Speaker 1: in the sport says.

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Speaker 3: Something where Colin was raw.

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Speaker 1: I sold my Shader Sanders stock after two speeding tickets.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, you're a quarterback and you're a fifth

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Speaker 3: But Mary K.

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Speaker 1: Cabot reported this week that because he performed so well

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Speaker 3: A little early. Where Colin was right.

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Speaker 1: The ESPN rankings of the top rosters this year in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, seven of the top twelve are NFC. This

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Speaker 1: is something we started talking about last year. There was

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Speaker 1: the NFL last year roster composition, I thought the NFC

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Speaker 3: Where Colin was right. What a shocker.

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Speaker 1: Only one NFL team hasn't signed their first round pick,

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Speaker 1: and it's the always cheap Cincinnati Bengals. Shamar Stewart is

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Speaker 1: the holdout. I've said it for years. Zach Tannler gets

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Speaker 1: criticized by a lot of people in the NFL. H

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Speaker 1: it's all Joe Burrow. He's got the cheapest owner there

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Speaker 1: kicked off where Colin was rowed. The Dodgers have hit

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Speaker 1: Last in baseball, they're two and ten in their last twelve,

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Speaker 1: I have seen since the seventy five Reds.

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Speaker 3: They officially can't hit where Colin was right.

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Speaker 1: Well, Bradley Beal went to the Clippers and Jason McIntyre said,

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Speaker 1: it's the kind of move that will shift the paradigm

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Speaker 3: Well, I looked at the odds makers.

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Speaker 1: They were plus two thousand pre trade plus two thousand

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Speaker 1: Clippers post trade. Oldest roster in the NBA with brooklow In,

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Speaker 1: Bradley Beal just got older. The Bradley Beal acquisition did

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Speaker 1: not make a dent in the Clippers' futures, despite the

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Speaker 1: Here we go. It is it Tuesday. We are really

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Speaker 1: really rolling today. Ryan Dale, Ohio State football coach Nick

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Speaker 3: It is a Tuesday. We're live.

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Speaker 1: It's the Herd Jmac interesting story. The athletic kind of

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Speaker 1: broke an interesting story John Hollinger where there were whispers

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Speaker 1: in league circles that Lebron James, and we talked about

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Speaker 1: it on this show was looking at Dallas as a

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Speaker 1: landing spot. We've talked about this great front line. Here

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Speaker 1: comes Cooper flag better coach, and you know, let's be honest,

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Speaker 1: if he went to Dallas, he would be the centerpiece.

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Speaker 1: Even though he's older. Lebron in Dallas every time he

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Speaker 1: goes to a new team for two years, it's like wow,

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Speaker 1: whereas in LA it's like Luca's team, and everybody knows

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Speaker 1: that new owners. It kind of feels like it isn't

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Speaker 1: nothing against Lebron, but he's not in the future. But

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Speaker 1: this is interesting, This is really interesting. So the athletic

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Speaker 1: saying this for three to four weeks. Dallas is a

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Speaker 1: better place to go. I mean, I get Cooper Flag

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Speaker 1: But Lebron wasn't willing and this is what killed it.

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Speaker 1: According to John Hollingdry, he wasn't willing to leave fifty

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Speaker 1: So think about that. Lebron's a billionaire. He's a billionaire.

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Speaker 1: And my take is with Lebron Rich Paul told us

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Speaker 1: it was all about winning, it's not anymore. I think

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's still in his head. He knows in the

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Speaker 1: MJ is six for six. MJ is more memorable. MJ's

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Speaker 1: more romanticized Michael Jordan. There are a dozen plays to

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Speaker 1: and you can see Michael Jordan do it unless you're

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Speaker 1: driving with Lebron. There's one that chase down block against

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Speaker 1: And so I think at Lebron at this point, he's

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Speaker 1: never going to catch him. He's never going to catch

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Speaker 1: him in net worth. MJ's networth is three point five

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Speaker 1: Lebron has kind of bounced around to the best basketball

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Speaker 1: And I've never criticized him for that. I understand it.

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Speaker 1: His first stop, he got drafted to Cleveland. Seven years

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Speaker 1: argue the only time Lebron has ever made us feel

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Speaker 1: way works in politics works in sports. Michael Jordan still

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Speaker 1: In twenty sixteen, Lebron said it quote, my motivation is

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Speaker 1: Well, there were thirteen and three last year before losing

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Speaker 1: You don't have to go undefeated the rest of the

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Speaker 5: that that poses its own challenges too. There's not a

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Speaker 5: lot of tape, no no tape of him coaching in

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Speaker 5: college football, and so putting a plan together that we

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Speaker 5: feel good about also gives Arch a little bit of

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Speaker 5: freedom to to get us in and out of some

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Speaker 5: things that you know, as looks present themselves in the

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Speaker 5: game because there's so many unknowns. I think is going

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Speaker 5: to be critical and he's more than capable of doing that.

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Speaker 5: You know, he's the guys. You know, it's been been

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Speaker 5: raised watching tape with with Eli and Peyton and his

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Speaker 5: dad and his grandpa and everybody. So we're going to

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Speaker 5: feel good about that. And he's got great composure and

446
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Speaker 5: he's been in some fires with us already, so we'll

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Speaker 5: feel good about it. Do we want to major in

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Speaker 5: him have an audible on the road. That's a difficult

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Speaker 5: thing to do, but we're gonna give him some opportunities

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Speaker 5: to do those things, especially some critical moments.

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Speaker 1: So I you know, I was thinking about this. I

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Speaker 1: talked to urban Meyer about this.

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Speaker 3: Is that.

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Speaker 1: I ni L's tricky, h Lincoln Riley's done a lot,

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Speaker 1: Brian Kelly has.

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Speaker 3: Done a lot.

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Speaker 1: Deon Sander has done a lot, and those I would

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Speaker 1: argue those three there's value to it, but it is

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Speaker 1: hard to create culture and chemistry when you're bringing in

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Speaker 1: a player and paying him three times what you're paying

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Speaker 1: a third year starter.

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Speaker 3: Like in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Everybody understands there's the salary cap and there's certain guys

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Speaker 1: that get it, and it's the quarterback in college. I

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Speaker 1: think the nil. I'm for it, but there is a

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Speaker 1: danger in the transfer portal not screwing up chemistry.

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Speaker 3: Where do you land on?

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Speaker 1: I mean, have there been guys that you really like

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Speaker 1: but you're like, you know what, man, I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to pay this receiver that and bring him into our room.

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Speaker 1: Like is that something you have to think? A lot

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Speaker 1: about with the nil.

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Speaker 5: For sure, I think you hit the nail on the head.

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Speaker 5: It happened this offseason we ended up not going on

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Speaker 5: a player because I didn't feel comfortable about what he

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Speaker 5: would have had to what it would have cost us

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Speaker 5: to get him in comparison to other players on that

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Speaker 5: side of the ball. And we we love our culture,

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Speaker 5: and we we've exhausted ourselves and building the culture here

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Speaker 5: at the University of Texas, and it's really good and

481
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Speaker 5: and we're navigating the NIL space I think is good

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Speaker 5: or better than anybody. I think there's a lot of

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Speaker 5: respect in our locker room. We believe in production. This

484
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Speaker 5: is a production based industry, right. How you perform ultimately

485
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Speaker 5: is how you get compensated. And and so I think

486
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Speaker 5: our players understand that. And so when you bring somebody

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Speaker 5: in from the outside that all of the sudden is

488
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Speaker 5: making more than everybody else, I think that's when you

489
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Speaker 5: can run into some problems. And and so you've got

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Speaker 5: to make those decisions because we're a really good football team.

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Speaker 5: That's the beauty of our sport. I think teams win championships,

492
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Speaker 5: not not just a bunch of talented individuals. And we've

493
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Speaker 5: got a really good team. And I'm very cautious to

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Speaker 5: uh to do anything to to to cause you know,

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Speaker 5: any type of you know, feud or disruption to that

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Speaker 5: what we have going right now.

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Speaker 1: Finally, what is arch Manning's best trait? Something that you

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Speaker 1: didn't even have to coach. It's just intuitive. There is

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Speaker 1: something he just did well the minute he got on campus.

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Speaker 5: Work ethic. His work ethic is incredible, whether it's you know,

501
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 5: studying tape, studying film, studying the playbook, working at his craft,

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Speaker 5: you know, in the weight room like that. That that is,

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Speaker 5: whether it's innate in him or uh it was you know,

504
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Speaker 5: handed down from his uncles whatever, whatever it was, his

505
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Speaker 5: work ethic is really pretty incredible. And that lends itself

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Speaker 5: to the teammate that he is too. And again that's

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Speaker 5: not to take away the arm talent, the deep ball,

508
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Speaker 5: the athleticism, all that. I think all those things are

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Speaker 5: a byproduct of how hard he works at his craft

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Speaker 5: and how hard he works at being a great teammate.

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Speaker 5: You know, those those things. I've never had to coach

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Speaker 5: him on it that he walked in the door was

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Speaker 5: a great teammate and has worked his tail off from

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Speaker 5: day one.

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Speaker 1: You know you're a coach. You could do TV. You

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Speaker 1: did a little TV, but in the end, you're a coach.

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Speaker 1: You just love coaching. You're an ex as and O's guy,

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Speaker 1: one of the smarter guys I've ever met that does that.

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Speaker 1: And I watched Nick Saban on TV, and I think

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Speaker 1: he's such a coach. Nick such a coach. I don't

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Speaker 1: think he's coming back to college. Let me ask you

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Speaker 1: if somebody in the NFL called him, maybe the team

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Speaker 1: that got Arch Manning or got a great quarterback, do

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Speaker 1: you think Nick Saban would take the call?

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Speaker 3: You know him, you know him well.

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Speaker 5: You already have him in Cleveland. I heard you, yesday,

527
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Speaker 5: you already have in Cleveland. He's coaching Arch. I only

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Speaker 5: have Arch for one year, thought I was gonna have

529
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Speaker 5: him for two. I don't know. You know, hey, he

530
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Speaker 5: is a great coach and I loved my time working

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Speaker 5: for Nick. I mean, he really is a fantastic coach.

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Speaker 5: I think he feels really comfortable to me. You know,

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Speaker 5: he's really good on TV. I think he enjoys what

534
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Speaker 5: he gets to do. He's playing a ton of golf,

535
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Speaker 5: which which he loves doing. I'm sure, I'm sure you

536
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Speaker 5: know Miss Terry loves having him at home, so I

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Speaker 5: don't know, you know, that's obviously a personal thing as

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Speaker 5: he grows. I know he's one of, if not the

539
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Speaker 5: most competitive person I've ever been around, so sure of

540
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Speaker 5: those competitive juices get flowing pretty good. But man, he

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Speaker 5: looks like he's having a lot of fun doing television.

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Speaker 5: He looks relaxed, and he's great for our sport. You know,

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Speaker 5: I know people are love tuning into it to hear

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Speaker 5: his inside out all this stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it was just speculation on my part.

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Speaker 1: I you know, I just that's what I do. Steve great, seeing.

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Speaker 3: You you too, man, you too?

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Speaker 1: All right, one of my favorite guys, Sark, who's had

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Speaker 1: just a fascinating journey. I mean, I'm telling you right, Texas,

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Speaker 1: Ohio State. I mean, I am parked. Pregame game, post

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Speaker 1: game on Fox.

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Speaker 3: That is going to be.

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Speaker 1: That's as good an opening game as we've ever had

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Speaker 1: on that Labor Day weekend.

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Speaker 3: That's as good as it gets. It's the hurt