1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to you stuff you should know from house stuff 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm 3 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: Josh Clark. There's Charles W Chuck Bryant. We both look 4 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: like we're in some sort of fight club because our 5 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: hair is equally short. Things. Yeah, I got the summer 6 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: buzz cut. Let's see your finger nails. You keep him 7 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,159 Speaker 1: trim while I chew the nails, you know. Yeah, I 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: got my trimp too. Okay. Is that one of the 9 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: rules of fight club. I didn't know that when I 10 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: was scratching. It wasn't a rule, it was it was 11 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: one of the reasons to keep your finger nails trimmed 12 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: in your hair cut. Yeah. Yeah, you know what I'm 13 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: gonna bring back. I saw Gangs of New York the 14 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: other day again, the fish hook when the guy fish 15 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: hooks the dude. That's a classic move in like old 16 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: school fighting. Yeah, Like you put your fisticuffs up and 17 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: then if you get ahold of a guy, you're gonna 18 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: give him the fish hook. You're bringing that back, huh. 19 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: I'm bringing back the tractice on me and I even 20 00:00:58,080 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: practiced on myself a little bit because I was like, 21 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: is that really an effective move and it hurts and yeah, yeah, 22 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 1: it hurts me right now, just trying to I'm gonna 23 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: bring back vertically striped pants. Okay, okay and official qu um, So, 24 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: how are you doing. It's been a little while. Uh No, 25 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: it's been what three or four days? In the magic 26 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: of podcast releases, we're right on schedule. Okay. I have 27 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: a story for you. It's tragic, but it's interesting and 28 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: it relates to what we're talking about, like any good 29 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: intro ship. So uh. In April April two, a woman 30 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:39,559 Speaker 1: was she was hiking through the Pyrenees in France with 31 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: a couple of friends and she lost her footing and 32 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: she fell about three d to her death obviously, and um, 33 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: of course her friends were like, oh my god. They 34 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: probably said something like soccer blue or something like that, 35 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: and contacted the authorities, and the authorities got out there 36 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: pretty quick. Within forty five minutes, they located and reached 37 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: her dead body. But what they found was nothing but 38 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: her bones and her tattered clothing and shoes for five minutes. 39 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 1: Within forty five minutes, the local griffin vultures had picked 40 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: the woman clean. She went from being alive to forty 41 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: five minutes later being a skeleton, and as gruesome as 42 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: that is, it's actually a really good sign if you 43 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: are pulling for healthy vulture populations. Yeah, and you know 44 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: what that actually dispels a myth right off the bat 45 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: vultures actually prefer fresh meat. Yeah, they don't necessarily like 46 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: rotten flesh, but they will eat rotten flesh. But they 47 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: prefer fresh meat of a dead carcas though. Right now, 48 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: the reason why there were so many vultures, why they 49 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: were able to pick this woman clean, is because there's 50 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: a lot of griffin vultures in France. And the reason 51 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: there's a lot, and the reason that they're hungry is 52 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 1: because the French government says you can't shoot these vultures, 53 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: leave them alone. And also farmers burn your dead livestock. 54 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 1: So you have a bunch of vultures that are protected 55 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: from humans, which is their number one predator, who are 56 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: hungry because their food supplies being burned by said humans. 57 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: So when an unlucky humans slips and losers are footing 58 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: in the Pyrenees, the vultures pick dead body cleaning forty 59 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: five minutes. That's pretty quick. Now, follow me chuck over 60 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: to Nepal. The Himalayas very nice. Back in the mountains, 61 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: it is. Did you I got my magic carpet clean? 62 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: It is very nice. It smells like a new car. 63 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: I had a new car sent spread on it, a 64 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: coconut new car. Um. So in the Himalayas, you've got 65 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: two different groups of the Zoroasters and the Tibetan Buddhists. Yeah, 66 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: and they hate each other. They are into sky burials, 67 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: remember those, Okay, So you want to refresh everybody with 68 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: sky burialists. Yeah. Sky burial Uh. It's basically when you 69 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: you leave your loved one's body out in a field 70 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: for the vultures to pick clean. Right, And Zoroasters and 71 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: Buddhists both believe that you shouldn't just bury a dead body, 72 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: shouldn't crement a dead body of pollutes the earth. So 73 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: you give it to the vultures, which are kind of 74 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: these spiritual beings in both religions, and they poop in 75 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: that polluts the earth. The problem. The problem is is 76 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: there are so few vultures in the Himalayas these days 77 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 1: that they can't take care of the dead bodies that 78 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: they put out there. So the Zoroasters and Buddhists are 79 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 1: having to like ship them out of the country really, 80 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: so they're not even able to perform sky burials. No, 81 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: they do, but I mean it's not they're not fulfilled 82 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: because there's not enough vultures. The reason why there's not 83 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: enough fulters, we found out in two thousand six is 84 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: because of an non steroidal anti inflammatory drug called uh DI. Nice. Yeah, 85 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 1: and there are twenty three species total worldwide. Vulture on 86 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: every continent but Australia and Antarctica, which I was surprised 87 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: in Australia, man, that's like, I bet they would have 88 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: a ball out there, you know, vulture central. Yeah, it's 89 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: just wide open territory and dead bodies everywhere, especially if 90 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: Nick Cave has anything exactly and uh sadly fourteen of 91 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: those species are endangered or threatened at this point. Uh. 92 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 1: And the dike Lofak is a big culprit. It's um 93 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: ranchers used it too on their cattle and then the 94 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: vultures would eat and just like from one eating of 95 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: dead cows, would you know kill the vultures. Yeah, it 96 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: gave him a kidney failure. Yeah, And like the vultures 97 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: would be on their perches and just fall over dead, 98 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: and it wiped out three different species of vultures. Eastern 99 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: Old World vultures of the three species were just wiped out. Yeah, 100 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: I got ninety nine. Actually, Um, the good news is 101 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: is they ban it in two thousand six in India, 102 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: and in two thousand and twelve it actually the population 103 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: increased for the first time in many, many many years, 104 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 1: So they're slightly on the uptick in that area of 105 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 1: the world at least. But it was a huge like 106 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: mystery of what was going on, you know, what was 107 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: killing the vultures, And luckily for these vultures, their populations 108 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: were dwindling in India. Indians very much prize the vulture 109 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: as like a necessary creature to create, I guess, or 110 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: promote sanitary conditions in nature. Yeah. Well, I mean, if 111 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: if they're eating the sick animals, then the sick animal 112 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: bacteria isn't going to get into the ground and leach 113 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: into the water. And if there are no vultures around 114 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: there potentially could be like spikes and disease and things. 115 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: So they're actually really necessary, they really are. Not only 116 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: are there spikes and disease. Um, vultures kind of take 117 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 1: it for the team. The team being the rest of 118 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: the earth. They step in and they interseed. Like you said, 119 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 1: like if if there's a cow with some with antwers 120 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: or something, a vulture eats the carcass. But the vultures 121 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: digestive system is tuned to this acidity level that will 122 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: kill most, if not all, of whatever disease that cattle had, 123 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: and so it breaks the chain of infectious diseases. And 124 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: so you think of vultures is like these very dirty animals, 125 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: but they actually are performing this really specific and important 126 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: ecological service to the rest of the world. Yeah, and 127 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: we'll get to some more like vultures are clean facts 128 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: and which don't necessarily sound like like vultures are clean. Well, 129 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: we'll tell you we don't want to. Yeah, they're cleaner 130 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: than you think exactly. That's a good way to say. 131 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: And also you were saying like they if the vultures 132 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: aren't around, disease cannot break. Not only that there, the 133 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: service that they perform is so vital it is it's 134 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: a service to an extent, like they're basically nature's up crew, 135 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: and they do it by eating rotting flesh, and they 136 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: do it really quick like in sky burials before the 137 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: decimation of the um of the Eastern species, the Indian 138 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: species um. They could take care of a dead body 139 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: in like thirty minutes. Thirty minutes. There's no other species 140 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: that can do that, and so this service, it is 141 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: a service that they provide vultures in. It makes so 142 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 1: much sense evolutionarily speaking, that the Old World species, right 143 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: that are in the Eastern hemisphere and the New World 144 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: species that are in the Western hemisphere are not related. 145 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: They co evolved two of the same thing, evolved from 146 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: two different groups of animals. They're not related. So it's 147 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: almost like nature is like, yeah, this is never gonna 148 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 1: happen with these birds are never gonna spread, but we're 149 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: gonna need him over here, so let's just have everything 150 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: evolved into vultures. Vultus came up separately on two different 151 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: sizes of the world. That's how important. They are. Very important. 152 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: The Old World vultures which are Eastern Hemisphere, like we 153 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 1: just said, they're twelve species of those and they are 154 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: related to hawks and eagles. They they nest with sticks 155 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: and things like you might see a vulture nest like 156 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: sticking out on a log, sticking out from a cliff, 157 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: like it's a cartoon or something. That's how I imagine 158 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: it Western hemisphere of a here is where we have 159 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: the New World ones, very progressive vultures. They don't build 160 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: nest and they're just like, we're not into that because 161 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: we're we We like mid century modern digs and like 162 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: the California condor especially. Yeah, and you know the condor 163 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: is uh his rebounding to talk about in danger. They 164 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: dip to a low of twenty five and the nineteen 165 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: eighties and now as there are four hundred and five, 166 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: and they're pretty awesome. They're wingspans get to be like 167 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: nine ft across. Yeah, I think that it's not the 168 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: California condor, but gets one in Africa can get as 169 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: high as a leaven, as white as a lemon. That's 170 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: a big bird, man. Yeah, it's huge, Like the bird 171 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: could take you down. Yeah. And I think people don't 172 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: like vultures because hey, they feed on carrion and it's 173 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: sort of gross. People think another myth that they circle 174 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 1: dying animals, just waiting for them to die. It's not true. 175 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: But because they circle, and because like a California condor 176 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: can circle up to like fifteen thousand feet that's amazing 177 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: it is. But they smell these things, right, It depends 178 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: they have either really great site, really great smell, or both. 179 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: So in North America Turkey vultures have incredible sense of smell. 180 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: But there are New World species and they're unrelated to 181 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: Old World species, so it can go either way, but 182 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: typically to either their site or their smell. That's really 183 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: really great. Yeah. I like the ones that are that 184 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: look like they're wearing feather boas they are completely naked 185 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: on the neck and head and then just have the 186 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 1: big puffy black feathers around the neck. Well, let's talk 187 00:10:55,960 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: about that. Why Why are vultures featherless on the head? Uh? 188 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: Hygiene because they're sticking those heads and necks into carrying 189 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: and rotted flesh. And it's actually just you know, it's 190 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: a nature's way of saying, I don't want your your feathers, 191 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: your nice feathers to get covered with blood and guts, 192 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 1: so it's actually sanitary. Um. They don't sing either. That's 193 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: another reason vultures get a bad rap. There's no like 194 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,839 Speaker 1: vulture song like other people do, like singing birds, you know, 195 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: Vulters grunt and hiss apparently are like the two sounds 196 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: they make, and that's not gonna get you very far 197 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: if you're covered, if you're bald, wearing a feather, boa 198 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: grunting and hissing, and you're covered in like blood and guts, 199 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 1: people aren't gonna be like, what a nice bird. Well, yeah, 200 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: it's not, and it's not just people to like. Apparently, 201 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: animals kind of vultures are like on the outskirts of 202 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: all organisms, Like they have no natural predators, um any predators. 203 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: Predators they do have are like egg hunting predate predators. 204 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: They don't go after the vulture, they go after the 205 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: eggs and the like. You will once in a while 206 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: in times of extreme famine and hardship find like a 207 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: big cat attacking a vulture, but for the most part, 208 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: everything just leaves vultures alone. Humans, bobcats, everybody just wants 209 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: vultures discuss to stay over there and eat your rotting, fleshy, 210 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: disgusting things. Yeah, and there they're considered birds of prey, 211 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: even though they rarely feed on live animals, even though 212 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: they will if they get hungry enough they will. Yeah, 213 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: they apparently in France, where you can't kill a vulture 214 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 1: and you have to burn your lives style attacking. Yeah, 215 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: they're taking away live animals, and that's specific to Old 216 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: world vultures. They have a grasping foot so they can 217 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: carry away things like babies. Like you said, a New 218 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: world vultures are more like chickens and they can run, 219 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: but they can't grasp. Yeah, and I don't even think 220 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: the ones with the grasping feet are like they're still 221 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: not meant to grasp that much, right, Like from what 222 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,719 Speaker 1: I read the talents even on the ones that are 223 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: able to do so, it's not like an eagle or 224 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 1: or a barn owl or anything. They can like snatch 225 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 1: your cat off your back deck. Um, So no feathers 226 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 1: on the head or neck. It's sanitary. And believe it 227 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 1: or not, what's the other thing that makes them sanitary? 228 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: The urinate on themselves. What Yeah, it's they pee on 229 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,839 Speaker 1: their own feet. Yeah, they pee on their feet and 230 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 1: legs and it kills bacteria. It keeps them cool like 231 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: our sweat does. Yeah, because that the digestive system that 232 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: has such a high acidity is transferred to their urine. 233 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: And when they pee on their feet, they're basically cleaning 234 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,719 Speaker 1: off all of the nasty bacteria that got on their 235 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: feet from crawling around the inside of a zebra or something. Yeah, 236 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: I'm proud of you for saying urinate and urine. Uh 237 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,839 Speaker 1: you know what a group of vultures is called? Uh? 238 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 1: I love those questions. It's always like, I know what 239 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: a crow, I know what a group of crows coming? 240 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 1: Everyone knows it. What is that a murder? I didn't 241 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: know everybody knew that. Apparently vulters have a lot of names. 242 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: They can be. A group is usually called a committee, 243 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: which they're like we said, they're a necessary service. So 244 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: that's a committee, a venue, or a volt. And then 245 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: when sounds familiar, the vaulted vultures, when they're in flight, 246 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: they're known as a kettle, which I thought was interesting. 247 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: And when they're feeding a group is known as a wake. 248 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: Thank you jump your Yeah probably so thank you for 249 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: going off in the woods and doing your thing. All right, 250 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: So I guess we should get to vulture vomit as 251 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: if we weren't grossed out enough by eating dead flesh 252 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: and in yourself. Yeah, because you're saying, like, they they 253 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: don't sing, they p on themselves. They they feed on 254 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: dead animals, eat your dead relative. They one other thing 255 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: that vultures are very much noted for is vomiting in 256 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: times of stress, and they're freaked out when they feel 257 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: like they're being preyed upon, when they're startled vull. Sure, 258 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: we'll throw up. It's called defensive vomiting. No, hold hold on, 259 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: hold on. I think now it's a good time for 260 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: a little message break, okay, and then we'll talk about 261 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: defensive vomiting. I promise, m hm. Back to vomit. Yeah. 262 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: When they when they throw up, they can get away 263 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: a lot quicker. Yeah, Like I just ate four pounds 264 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: of cat meat and I just puped it up so 265 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: I can fly out of here quickly, exactly. So that's one. 266 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: That's one reason that avian biologists think that they throw 267 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: up defensively. The other one is this it's a decoy. 268 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: It's a present to their predator, like don't eat me, 269 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: eat this. Yeah, And a lot of predators, more often 270 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: than not, we'll eat whatever they vomited back up because 271 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: it's not always like digested flesh. It can be something 272 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: like a big bite of meat that they just you know, 273 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: showed um very recently because that's how they feed their 274 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: little baby vulture. So it's it's regurgitation like many birds do. 275 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: So it may not be so different for an eagle 276 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: to swoop down and say like, hey, that cat meat 277 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: looks like it's just you just vomited it up and 278 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: you just ate it. So what's the big deal? Right, 279 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: And eagles actually do. Bald eagles specifically love to eat 280 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: vulture vomit, which is weird because think about this, like, 281 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: the bald eagle is a revered animal, but it's not bald. 282 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: The vulture is, and that it eats vulture vomit. Vultures 283 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: do the vomiting. Yeah, it's like turning everything just on 284 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: its head. You're anti American. Uh So the other cool 285 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: thing I guess you might say about vulture vomit is 286 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: it's actually a defense in that it's highly acidic. Like 287 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: we're talking pH levels between one and two, which is 288 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: more than gastric and hydrochloric acid in our own stomach 289 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: and more corrosive than acid rain. So like that's some 290 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: acidic vomit. Yeah, I mean it's more crosive than acid rain. 291 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: It's like, um, if you if you, I guess poured 292 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: acid rain on something, though, you'd be like, you're gonna 293 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: this will eventually do something to you. Maybe this is 294 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: this is if you're a statue, this is going to 295 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: harm you in thirty years. Well we're talking pH levels. Yeah, 296 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: I remember acid rain kills fish in the acid Rain 297 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: podcast we did so. Yeah. I guess if a fish 298 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: comes up and scares the vulture, it's in trouble. Or 299 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: if you bought a goldfish and you filled up your 300 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 1: little goldfish ball with acid rain, it might probably it's 301 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: not good, or vulture vomit, the fish is in trouble. 302 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,719 Speaker 1: The point is it's highly acidic, and even more so 303 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:44,239 Speaker 1: than other birds of preying and carnivorous birds. So like 304 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 1: the vultures kick it up a notch. So, and that's 305 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: that's how the vulture doesn't die from eating bacteria that 306 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: would probably kill other animals. So chuck. That's also there, 307 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 1: um there. Digestive juices are how they avoid getting sick 308 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 1: eating things that would like kill you or me. Yeah. 309 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: See that's a good point because I think people probably 310 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: wonder how can they eat all this like rancid disease 311 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:12,360 Speaker 1: and bacteria rotted flesh. That's how the pH of their 312 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: stomach most things can't survive. Although they aren't perfect killing 313 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: microbe killing machines. You can't find traces of, say like 314 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: antrax spores in their stool after they eat infected meat. 315 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: But for the most part, the fact that vultures eat 316 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: things that may contain disease, have the ability to contain 317 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: that disease, and are naturally reviled by pretty much everything 318 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: else under the sun, and stay away from everything else. 319 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: They are really great at breaking the chain of infectious 320 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: disease in nature. Yeah, and endangered and threatened. So like 321 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 1: nice kind of vultures. I would encourage vultures. If you're listening, 322 00:18:55,760 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: learn a song or two. Wouldn't hurt you know, maybe, Yeah, 323 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: I'd like to teach the world to sing that melts 324 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 1: everybody's head. Yeah, any carpenter standard, oh for sure. Um. 325 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: And also it maybe like one Christmas song just with 326 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: the holidays. That's a great one. Uh. If you have 327 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 1: a problem with vultures, still hear me. Now, vultures, in 328 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: the absence of a healthy vulture population, there are still 329 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 1: lots of rotting carcasses, more than there would be if 330 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: the vultures were around. And where there's rotting carcasses, there's 331 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 1: feral dog packs. And where there's feral dog packs. There's rabies, 332 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 1: and dogs don't stay away from humans like vultures to. 333 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 1: They attack humans. Rat populations blow up to when vultures 334 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 1: aren't around, So leave the vultures alone. Good point. I 335 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: got one more little bit bit for you. Um, they're 336 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: actually using vultures now in forensic Science in the Journal 337 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: of Forensic Science International, they took a body out um, 338 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: researcher Kathleen Katherine Spradley of Texas State University, San Marcos. Oh, 339 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: they have a body farm. Member. Yep, go Boco the 340 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: cat Poco, the bobcat. Um. And I actually had to 341 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: look that one up. Yeah. Um, they have a body farm, 342 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 1: like you said, and they recently took a body dumped 343 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: it out there to see how long it would take 344 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: vultures to skeletonize it and distribute the remains. Because basically 345 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: their aim is to see how long it takes vultures 346 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: to discover a body, how long it takes the vultures 347 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: to skeletonize it, how far they will distribute the parts, Uh, 348 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 1: what they do and don't eat because essentially, when you 349 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: find a body in the woods, sometimes it can be 350 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: ravaged and you don't know like Why are there no 351 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 1: bite marks? Who ravaged this body? How long has this 352 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,959 Speaker 1: body been here? Why are we finding body parts all 353 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: over the places? That's some kind of sick. Oh, that's 354 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: like tearing these bodies to pieces. So it's uh, it's 355 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: a forensics studdy and um. They got a video camera 356 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: triggered by motion and it took thirty seven days actually 357 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: to be triggered, and thirty a thirty strong wake of 358 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: American black vultures took care of the body in five hours, 359 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 1: and both of those results surprised, like how long it 360 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: took them to get there and how long it took 361 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: him to skeletonize it, because it's like way longer than usual. 362 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: Like we said, yeah, well three can take care of 363 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 1: a body in like thirty minutes, so thirty and five 364 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: hours it's not too bad. Yeah, they thought it was 365 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 1: a little long. Um. And then they got a spatial 366 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: pattern of the discarded body parts snapped it with the 367 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: GPS over fifteen weeks, and they're hoping that this pattern 368 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 1: like aids you know, forensics in the future. How far 369 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: has it gone? Do they say? No? They didn't say 370 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 1: pretty interesting though, Yeah, that's very interesting. Forensics vultures saving 371 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: people from being unfairly accused of being a grizzly serial killer. Exactly. Um. Also, 372 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: one last thing, if you are interest did and probably 373 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: are flushed with cash, you can go paragliding with vultures 374 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: in the Himalayas. There's a man who's trained vultures. So 375 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: you go flying on you know, a para sale. You 376 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 1: fly attached to a vulture. No, you fly attached to 377 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: the dude who trained the vultures in a ParaSail, and 378 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: the vultures like hang around. Yeah, they fly around you. 379 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: They said, it's like swimming with dolphins, but like five 380 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: thousand feet in the air, and they will eat buffalo 381 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,479 Speaker 1: meat out of your hand, Like they land on your 382 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: arm and eat and then like fly around and they're 383 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: like thank you. One of them's name is Kevin the vulture. 384 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: Really well, they let you paraglide with buffalo meat dangling 385 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: from your ankles. Maybe probably man, this is I'd like 386 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: to do that. That's now on my bucket list on 387 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 1: the chucket list, the chucket list. Uh is that it? Okay, 388 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: there's everything about vultures that we can find everybody. We 389 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: hope you enjoyed it. And uh, let's say, if you 390 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 1: want to learn more about vultures, type vulture into the 391 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,239 Speaker 1: search part. How stiff works out cam And since I 392 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: said that, it means it's time for a message break. 393 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: And how about some listener mail. Huh yeah, this one 394 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: is sort of long now that I'm looking at it. 395 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 1: But oh wait, wait before we do that, can I 396 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: plug somebody? Okay, so, um, we are not sure. I 397 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: don't think we did plug this guy before we're plugging 398 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 1: them again. Ok. Yeah, what's the hard exactly. Thomas Trask 399 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: was one of the finalists in our Halloween horror fiction 400 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 1: contests that we held last year, right, and we said, 401 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: anybody who made it in the Sweet sixteen, or actually 402 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 1: I think anybody who entered UM. If you want on 403 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: to publish anything, let us know and we will plug. 404 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: So Thomas Trask did just that. He wrote a book 405 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 1: called Prism. It's a sci fi fantasy UM and it's 406 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: on Amazon and you can buy it as paperback or kindle. 407 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: So it's Thomas Trask with Prism. And uh, it's probably 408 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 1: pretty sweet because he wrote one of my favorite UM stories, 409 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: Quantum Suicide of Alice Walker. Yeah, that was a good one. 410 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 1: It was mine. Bending I would strongly recommend anything. Trask 411 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 1: rights frankly. Okay, now, uh it's time for some listener. 412 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: Now how about that? Yeah, this is an oldie. It's 413 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: about tipping, but it's a pretty good tipping story. Uh 414 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: it's a bartender in Vancouver. Did you read this one? No? No, 415 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: it's just every time I go into a coffee place 416 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: now and I don't tip them, I'm like, I, do 417 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: you listen to the podcast? Um? All right, guys. I 418 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 1: was working for an upstale cocktail cocktail bar in downtown Vancouver. 419 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 1: Great relaxing, cool atmosphere. Three dudes walk in Friday nights 420 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 1: at the bar, and uh, we're part of the bachelor party. 421 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 1: Being a bartender, I'm pretty used to this, and I 422 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: realized there could be a lot of money made if 423 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: I take care of these guys. Uh. To confirm it, 424 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: one of the three guys did one of these numbers 425 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: where he says, we're gonna be here having fun this weekend. 426 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: We're gonna take care of you if you give us 427 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 1: some special attention. You know that guy? So I went 428 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: and put buffalo meat on my ankles. Uh. They ordered 429 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: cocktails and beers ordered in rounds. I made sure I 430 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: knew their orders, their names, and gave them new drinks 431 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: when they were getting low. Basically gave them really good attention. 432 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 1: Needless to say, it was great service. At the end 433 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: of the night, after all the shots and drinks, bill 434 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: was about eight hundred bucks. The very same guy he 435 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 1: told me I'd be taken care of, paid with this 436 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: credit card full, handed me a bill hold and inside 437 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: was a nickel five cents. Saturday night comes around nine pm, 438 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 1: same guys roll in. I thought about what happened the 439 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: night before and decided to be a good person, be 440 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 1: the better man, and greeted them by name and the smile, 441 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: brought out their usual drinks, acted like everything was normal, 442 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: even though I was being eaten alive inside. By the 443 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: time their bill came, it was even more than the 444 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: night before. Tonight another nickel, So that's ten cents on 445 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: sevent bucks. Sunday night rolls around. What do you know, 446 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: the philanthropist roll in still aggravated. I was firmed that 447 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: I would be the better person still and act like 448 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: it didn't affect me. Oh yeah, man, I would be 449 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: spitting and so many drinks. Even if it was despite them, 450 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: I was still gonna be nice drinks for shaking Beer's 451 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: report around eight hundred bucks. Again another nickel. Monday comes around. 452 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: The same guy comes in, UH on the day shift 453 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: and UH, thinking that they're starting early, asked if he 454 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: wanted there as usual. He said no, he was alone, 455 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 1: wouldn't be long. He sat down, pulled out an envelope, 456 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: put it on the bar. He told me really wanted 457 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: to give his friend a great bachelor party and had 458 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 1: heard great things about the bar. He'd never met someone 459 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: more professional and welcoming, even when they made nothing out 460 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: of it. He told me that he has gone to 461 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 1: a few bars and done this in the past, and Uh, 462 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 1: it got to the point at some places where they 463 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 1: wouldn't even serve them on the second night. Yet I 464 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 1: acted like nothing had ever happened. He really appreciated this, 465 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 1: thank me, and pointed at the envelope. Envelope so it 466 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: was for me, and walked out. Almost didn't want to 467 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: open it, but I'm thinking it would be another nickel. 468 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: Inside was two thousand dollars. I couldn't believe it. I 469 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: was ready to kill these people all weekend, and I 470 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 1: just made two grand for keeping my cool. And that 471 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: man was don cheatle or family man. I figured you 472 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: might find it interesting. And that is Brett from Vancouver. 473 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: He still has the nickels, And I say, good for 474 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: you too, grand Tip. And I also say, what a 475 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: jerk to put this guy through this as some sort 476 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 1: of like twisted test of how nice a bartender can be. Right, 477 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 1: he's really like using the the man social power dynamic 478 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,959 Speaker 1: between customer and nothing funny about it or fun about it. 479 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,199 Speaker 1: And you're really done this before and people have treated 480 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: me like a jerk according like yeah, and he's really 481 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 1: risking having things put in his drink too, Like I 482 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: just don't get it. So I would go walk in 483 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: and say on day one this two grand is yours 484 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: at the end of the weekend, if you take care 485 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: of us, yeah, like do the opposite, yeah, I mean 486 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: definitely yeah, or just tip like a normal person. Yeah 487 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: you can just do that and don't play games. Yeah 488 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: every time? All right, Yeah, that's a funch of things. Story. 489 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 1: That's a good's a good um. Good for you. What 490 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: was the name of Brett from Vancouver? Way to go Brett, um. 491 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: If you have a good story about how somebody mistreated 492 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 1: you and then treated you well in the end, but 493 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,719 Speaker 1: you're not still sure if that made up for everything? 494 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: We want to hear that story. You can tweet to 495 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: us at s y s K podcast. 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