Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, I am Davon Rogers and I'm Devin Simone
Speaker 1: and this is MTV's official Challenge podcast, viewable in times
Speaker 1: square Boom. This episode absolutely thoughts crazy madness, Like it's
Speaker 1: getting out of control, It's getting really really messy because
Speaker 1: rid of eyes are dying, Like, ain't nobody ride my fat?
Speaker 1: Like it's getting messy. You know, you you think when
Speaker 1: you think back to like the rivals and things like that,
Speaker 1: when it's gonna be messy because we don't like each
Speaker 1: other anyway. It's a lot harder when it's somebody you
Speaker 1: care about, like this is getting ugly. Yeah, it's also
Speaker 1: really hard when it's someone you don't care about, like
Speaker 1: in the case of Bessie and Mariah, because early Bessie
Speaker 1: is not showing that he cares about Mariah in the
Speaker 1: way that she deserves, and she like gave him. Wasn't
Speaker 1: it like two episodes ago or three episodes ago where
Speaker 1: she like gave him a pep talk and hugged him
Speaker 1: and was super supportive. You know. One, I just want
Speaker 1: to much happened. So much happened watching Chauncey and Amber,
Speaker 1: you know at the end where he's like kind of
Speaker 1: beating himself up for winning that challenge. You, Oh my goodness,
Speaker 1: Like I could never with a significant other because that
Speaker 1: had to be pressure, Like I want to win, but
Speaker 1: my girl is over there, Like that has to be pressure.
Speaker 1: So that was such a good moment, such a good moment.
Speaker 1: That was really sweet. But I also liked the way
Speaker 1: Amber handled Amber was like, he's kind to get it together.
Speaker 1: I feel like that would be me if Adam. If
Speaker 1: that were me and Adam competing on a challenge and
Speaker 1: I love, I love him, but I feel like that
Speaker 1: might be Adam where he'd be like, Babe, I don't
Speaker 1: need to go home though, da da da, And I'd
Speaker 1: be like, oh, I love you, babe. Okay, but this
Speaker 1: is a game we gotta get right. One of us
Speaker 1: gotta make it all like one of my fas so cute.
Speaker 1: I also, there are so many things that I loved
Speaker 1: about this episode and so many things I didn't love.
Speaker 1: So okay. In the Daily, right interesting Daily, you could
Speaker 1: tell that they weren't planning on being out there that long.
Speaker 1: The reason I say that is because if you look
Speaker 1: at the lighting, they were not looked very well. But
Speaker 1: tells me that they did not expect to be out
Speaker 1: there that they did not expect it exactly the target challenge,
Speaker 1: would you Hell no, absolutely no, I don't care who
Speaker 1: was over there, absolutely really no abs, no what No.
Speaker 1: I feel like they just got tired of standing there
Speaker 1: or something. I feel like it's part of why the
Speaker 1: other team. When TJ made it known that it came
Speaker 1: down two minutes and you know it's a timed situation. Baby,
Speaker 1: you're gonna drink all this, You're gonna say all your
Speaker 1: times you get those Basically, they still be there right now,
Speaker 1: right and other team period, he would have timed out
Speaker 1: like no, ain't no way, ain't no way. But you
Speaker 1: know what, No, I'm gonna save it for the gold Star.
Speaker 1: I'm an save it. I'm gonna save it. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: save it. What I didn't think it was funny though?
Speaker 1: Was TJ laughing at Fancy That tickled me? Oh my gosh, yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: TJ was just really laughing wild And then wait, did
Speaker 1: you catch the super scary TJ moment at the end.
Speaker 1: And I know we're jumping ahead, but when Mariah got
Speaker 1: eliminated and then she comes back and she's like, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, really I might come back in the game.
Speaker 1: I could cry and he goes do it I meant lapping.
Speaker 1: It was so creepy, like TJ, where are you on
Speaker 1: this week? Wild? Where his rock sand? Like what are
Speaker 1: you on? Um? It also was cool seeing TJ's personal side,
Speaker 1: like getting me his wife like that and have her
Speaker 1: do the horn like that was really that was cool
Speaker 1: to him. Also him hearing him analyze the other the
Speaker 1: competitors strategies. Did you did you catch him telling? Yeah?
Speaker 1: He was like, oh you bad at DJ. Come home, man,
Speaker 1: you know what did you stand out to me? What?
Speaker 1: When it came time to pull the dagger? Amber baby,
Speaker 1: and I love me some Amber. I love her, I
Speaker 1: love her, I love her. But this crying session between
Speaker 1: her and Nannie, no, no, I know, I feel like
Speaker 1: I actually sighed with Ambrons. I feel like Anissa though,
Speaker 1: our girl Anissa. She was like, oh God, like, let
Speaker 1: em have her little prime moment. Although I didn't know,
Speaker 1: Amber had more emotion in the dagger with Nanni than
Speaker 1: she did with Chauncey Pete Jordan talking about I'm the
Speaker 1: reason you're going in. I just want to point that out.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing I totally understand, Like just like you said.
Speaker 1: You know, if it were you and I right, I
Speaker 1: would definitely feel some type of way because I wouldn't
Speaker 1: want to see you go into elimination. I wouldn't want
Speaker 1: to see myself going to elimination either. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, I'm not gonna say, Devin, are you sure
Speaker 1: you want to pull it first? I'm not doing that.
Speaker 1: I'm not sorry. I love you, dude, I ain't doing that.
Speaker 1: I ain't doing it sorry. Who you would do that?
Speaker 1: You would do that. You'd be like, Davion, do you
Speaker 1: want to pull it first? We used to flip a
Speaker 1: coin and then I think the only time I ever
Speaker 1: had to go in like in the draw actually, and
Speaker 1: it was one It was me and Kara. I think
Speaker 1: she had me go first, I think, but either way
Speaker 1: we either it was like flip a coin or whatever.
Speaker 1: There was no crying, but like she cared about Nanni,
Speaker 1: like I don't. I kind of I feel for Amber
Speaker 1: in that moment, But you guys can be the mean.
Speaker 1: It's not even that because I love Amber, but that
Speaker 1: was doing all that. Um Saturday, well, speaking a sad eye, Yes,
Speaker 1: let's get into this gold Star in this time out, girl,
Speaker 1: I need to know. I need to know where you
Speaker 1: stand this week. Yes, okay, so gold Star. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of potential here for gold Star. One one potential
Speaker 1: candidate is Harassio's hair in the Daily. It was flucky,
Speaker 1: it was luxurious, It had some volume. It looked good
Speaker 1: like you just wanted to run your fingers through it. Um.
Speaker 1: Another potential gold Star was TJ's wife like coming in
Speaker 1: the game with some swacker like that. It reminds it's
Speaker 1: very reminiscent of Kiki, very reminiscent of like a k
Speaker 1: vibe M. Shout out to Danny and Kiki. Um. And
Speaker 1: then another potential candidate is Devin being the spotter. Like,
Speaker 1: first of all, I didn't know Sniper's had a spotter.
Speaker 1: Why does Devin know that? But also if I ever
Speaker 1: became a sniper, I'm gonna call Debbi Dev you know,
Speaker 1: because he is like three strikes to the left and
Speaker 1: then up twelve angle and then left aim fire when
Speaker 1: you're ready, like, okay, Dev, like and didn't miss. So
Speaker 1: Dev gets the gold Star of the week. Shout across
Speaker 1: the board, across the board, Yes, across the board, shout
Speaker 1: out to Dev. And then my side eye you know,
Speaker 1: one potential candidate for side eye is whoever decides what
Speaker 1: goes into those cups that they were drinking, because that
Speaker 1: was nasty tale Like how how you like? Who how
Speaker 1: do you even think that? That's? Like no? Like and
Speaker 1: do they test that, because you know how they test
Speaker 1: all the other suns they test drinking that stuff. Start
Speaker 1: it all in there, all right, so it looks so
Speaker 1: so absolutely nasty. Um. The other side eye goes to, well,
Speaker 1: he'll get an all of the the roomation for something because
Speaker 1: I actually don't know what Chetty put it in. But
Speaker 1: the other side that potential is um fessie trying to gaslight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: our girl Mariah like that, I mean just straight up gaslighting.
Speaker 1: Just he gets the side eye, like a major side
Speaker 1: what about for you? Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and
Speaker 1: put him in time out as well with a dunce
Speaker 1: cap like I can't. Um, I didn't like the way
Speaker 1: that he was just like, okay, well I made it
Speaker 1: this far, I can handle the rest by myself. You
Speaker 1: can actually go home. And I'm just don't like that.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, yeah, that's so whacked to me. But
Speaker 1: because to be honest, and a lot of these challenges,
Speaker 1: what was that with the mini final y'all full throw
Speaker 1: because she was pushing yeah right without when it happened,
Speaker 1: and I was like, come on fast, give her something,
Speaker 1: give her something, right, you know. And then when she
Speaker 1: gets eliminated, he goes, great season. You ain't gonna go
Speaker 1: down there and hug her and say thank you, nothing,
Speaker 1: just great season. And I'm like, come on, man, you
Speaker 1: gotta do better than that. I want her to come
Speaker 1: back and kick his ass. So um, the honorable mentioned
Speaker 1: And I don't mean that it was honorable. It was
Speaker 1: just I don't even know because it was both shocking,
Speaker 1: mildly funny, and I think miscommunication on both their hearts.
Speaker 1: But Jordan calling our good sis Toria terrorists. You would
Speaker 1: talk about dramatics, Okay, Amber's dramatic moment with the sword
Speaker 1: had nothing on his dramatic. You know. I was going
Speaker 1: to stick by my word until someone came to me
Speaker 1: and tried to tell me that this hinged upon our relationship.
Speaker 1: I don't negotiate with terrorists, man said, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I like, I mean, I did a half laugh. What
Speaker 1: did you think when you heard that? I didn't think nothing.
Speaker 1: I wasn't shot. I couldn't believe that he said it
Speaker 1: and and about her of all people. I was like, wait,
Speaker 1: what it was? What it says? But it just lets
Speaker 1: us know, like it's just that situation is so deep
Speaker 1: because it's so real and we we probably don't even
Speaker 1: know the half of it. Yeah, because that blow up
Speaker 1: that they had at the table, baby, that wasn't just
Speaker 1: about that conversation. Okay, as soon as she started talking
Speaker 1: about in the reason, I said, Okay, here we go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this has been waiting to boil over. So oh my
Speaker 1: good ah. Oh that was so so so messy, so massy, Um,
Speaker 1: something that isn't messy is the love you guys have
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Speaker 1: And then to those in Reddit because y'all know I'd
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Speaker 1: Cookie eleven four four who had love for us? No
Speaker 1: flatworm six five eight six, FIfF Gifford, a lot of people,
Speaker 1: We love you, thank you, and I saw some questions
Speaker 1: that they left to that we will hopefully get to answer.
Speaker 1: But before we get to that, we this episode are
Speaker 1: going to talk to our girl Mariah, and we are
Speaker 1: gonna get double to you guys. We're gonna get an exclusive,
Speaker 1: not hurt on any other podcast. She's gonna tell us
Speaker 1: about Bessie, their relationship, what she learned on lack of
Speaker 1: the season, whether or not she do things differently. She's
Speaker 1: gonna talk about the current status of her and a
Speaker 1: certain fruit Ye both on and off the show. She
Speaker 1: may even have some secret correspondence from said Fruits that
Speaker 1: she will reveal to us on this podcast, because you know,
Speaker 1: we always are getting to see So whatever you do,
Speaker 1: keep it your ears glued because you're not gonna want
Speaker 1: to miss this. You're gonna hear a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: things that you're not hearing anywhere else, and just get
Speaker 1: some insight and what it's like to go in as
Speaker 1: rookie and to be, you know, to think you have
Speaker 1: a rider die and find out your yeah, girl shut,
Speaker 1: I would be your writer, would be I don't know
Speaker 1: if I trust you should trust me just not to
Speaker 1: let you pull the dagger. But yeah, you can trust
Speaker 1: me everywhere else. But you see rude. Uh so they're
Speaker 1: not gonna go out if the moment happened, and I'll
Speaker 1: be that's true. You're not like hurt and betrayed. All
Speaker 1: of you guys, all of you guys on this podcast
Speaker 1: now are shady. We're a sisterhood and all but Anissa
Speaker 1: all but said, even if you go on vacation, you
Speaker 1: can't trust you not to vote you in. Basically, Davon said,
Speaker 1: I'm not letting you pull the dagger or the draw.
Speaker 1: The only one right now that's not questionable is Tory.
Speaker 1: But you didn't be Hares. That's true. That's true. That's
Speaker 1: true too. Well. We're so glad you guys were here
Speaker 1: grab a snack, but don't go anywhere. You're not gonna
Speaker 1: want to miss this episode with Mariah coming up next. Yes,
Speaker 1: so excited to have this guest here. You know what.
Speaker 1: I'm excited, Davon. I'm excited because I know this is
Speaker 1: gonna be a spicy interview. I know because she came
Speaker 1: in hot already when we logged on today. Sria, please
Speaker 1: welcome our special guest, talented Brookie Mariah. Who appreciate you,
Speaker 1: whoa appreciate you being so glad you came to hang
Speaker 1: out with us. Girl, I'm excited. I'm excited. You guys
Speaker 1: are funny, so this will be fun. All thanks. I
Speaker 1: try and tell my mom that we're funny. Okay, So
Speaker 1: let's dive into it, because girl, I got questions upon
Speaker 1: questions upon questions. Well, before we get into this episode,
Speaker 1: I want to go back to the previous episode, right,
Speaker 1: because in the previous episode, Bessie asked you to look
Speaker 1: out for him during a guy's day, right, and so
Speaker 1: you said he didn't look out for you during the
Speaker 1: girls day, and girl, then he responded and said, because
Speaker 1: you didn't say anything as Joe ride to die. Okay,
Speaker 1: how did that make you feel because it pissed me off,
Speaker 1: But how did it make you feel? Honestly, it didn't
Speaker 1: surprise me at that point anymore because Bessie did not
Speaker 1: talk to me and in the house literally at all
Speaker 1: at this point. We didn't talk every single girl in
Speaker 1: the house more than me. You know, I would try
Speaker 1: to come up and talk to him and he would
Speaker 1: tell me to go find a girl to talk to
Speaker 1: or that he doesn't feel like why, Yeah, Maria, can
Speaker 1: you reminds again is what was your relationship with BESSI
Speaker 1: coming into this house? Like how did you guys know
Speaker 1: each other? Why did you guys know each other? Like?
Speaker 1: How did you become quote unquote ride or dies? So
Speaker 1: I end up? I think that we ended up being
Speaker 1: you know, a ride and then you could die and
Speaker 1: all live. That's how I feel like our listening relationship
Speaker 1: it started, but um going in you know, I knew
Speaker 1: him for like about a year and we would hang
Speaker 1: out and you know, play video gad you meet him
Speaker 1: DM me? Yeah, he wrote me on Instagram and uh
Speaker 1: oh see that's his way. Yeah, he told me to
Speaker 1: you know, meet him at a bar. So I go,
Speaker 1: I'm meet him at this bar and he doesn't say
Speaker 1: a damn word to me, So I'm like, okay, he's weird.
Speaker 1: So I wait what I like, I have to go
Speaker 1: up to him and be like hello, and so I
Speaker 1: said hi to him and then he kind of just
Speaker 1: says hi, really shy and then doesn't talk. So I
Speaker 1: tell my friend, I'm like, dude, let's go. This is weird.
Speaker 1: And then he find me and he's like, where are
Speaker 1: you going? And I'm like, dude, I'm going somewhere else.
Speaker 1: You don't talk and He's like, oh no, I'm busy,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, then why'd you tell me to come?
Speaker 1: You know why? I'm so confused? Yeah, this story gets weird. Wait, wait, Maria,
Speaker 1: are you someone who saves her dms? Like? Do you
Speaker 1: go through and delete your dms? Or do you? I
Speaker 1: I had an ex boyfriend who deleted every single DM
Speaker 1: I had with any guy before. Damn you, boda, damn you.
Speaker 1: Okay it, but I don't know I had a psychotic
Speaker 1: ex boyfriend. So that's what was his line though? Okay,
Speaker 1: what was his opening line right when he's slid into
Speaker 1: your dms? Because we had him on the podcast recently
Speaker 1: and he apparently had some girl, what was it dead?
Speaker 1: Was it South America? Somewhere? Wait? No, Puerto Rico. I
Speaker 1: think it's Puerto Rico. I think it's Puerto Rico. Okay,
Speaker 1: Puerto Rico that he met on DMS, Um, what is
Speaker 1: what is an? Do you remember what kind of his
Speaker 1: opening line? Because because he was cold DM and you,
Speaker 1: meaning you didn't know him before, you hadn't spoken to
Speaker 1: him before. He just messaged you you're beautiful, totally get that.
Speaker 1: What did he what is it? Just like, girl, what
Speaker 1: was the I got you? Is it just a bunch
Speaker 1: of noises? All I know he didn't I know, he
Speaker 1: didn't say anything smooth. All I know is that he
Speaker 1: was tall. So I was like, hey, you know the
Speaker 1: looks the looks, yeah, you know every time everything I know.
Speaker 1: But I've become such a different person now before if
Speaker 1: I met him now, the person that I am, he
Speaker 1: would have never even had an opportunity to be anything
Speaker 1: more than friends with me because I'm I've grown as
Speaker 1: a person, you know. So he got lucky. Oh oh
Speaker 1: I felt So then how did you guys ever actually
Speaker 1: kind of date? Before you said you'd play games and
Speaker 1: hang out. We went on dates and you know, um,
Speaker 1: it didn't work out, which we were both cool with
Speaker 1: and up just hanging out and being friends. And you know,
Speaker 1: whenever we were bored, we would just text each other.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like we were texting all the time. He
Speaker 1: was just kind of like, were you cuddle buddies sometimes?
Speaker 1: Actually your friends? Actually no, like literally not at all,
Speaker 1: but before you were friends, where you cuddle buddies? Here
Speaker 1: we go? Here we go sometimes? Man, this is the
Speaker 1: True Telling podcast. She said, sometimes depends on our mood.
Speaker 1: Bessy's not a bad looking guy, so like it depends
Speaker 1: on our mood. You know. The more we hung out,
Speaker 1: the more I could see where he was at. And
Speaker 1: I was in a like I was healing at that time,
Speaker 1: so I wasn't you know, taught you on a vulnerable say.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yes, it wasn't in my best forms. So yeah,
Speaker 1: but we you know, we ended up being friends, and
Speaker 1: we were the friends that if we were bored, we'd
Speaker 1: be like, you want to hang out? Or you know,
Speaker 1: if he was going out with the guys and like
Speaker 1: wanted a girl to come, he would be like, hey,
Speaker 1: do you want to come? You know, want to hang
Speaker 1: out with them? How did the conversation come about then
Speaker 1: for you, when he was reached out to do like
Speaker 1: Ride or Dies, how did that? How did he present
Speaker 1: that to you? Walk us through it? What that was like.
Speaker 1: He was just like, Hey, I might need to bring
Speaker 1: a girl for a ride or Dies, and I don't
Speaker 1: want to bring my sister, and you're very athletic, and
Speaker 1: you know we get along and I know that me
Speaker 1: and you won't have any issues in the house. Would
Speaker 1: you want to come? It's probably not going to happen,
Speaker 1: but I'm just throwing it out there and I was like, oh, okay, sure.
Speaker 1: So he kind of downplayed it. So I downplayed it.
Speaker 1: And then they sent us to Atlanta to do like
Speaker 1: the testings, and he still downplayed it. I downplayed it,
Speaker 1: and then we got the call like three days before
Speaker 1: and we were like, oh shit, okay, it's real. Sohow
Speaker 1: interesting because he kept saying something that stuck out to
Speaker 1: me and day. I don't know if you caught this,
Speaker 1: but throughout this season, you know, obviously for many of
Speaker 1: the pairs, there is someone who is experiencing a challenge
Speaker 1: and someone who isn't who they're bringing in right right,
Speaker 1: And I could be wrong, but in my memory. It's
Speaker 1: only vessel that I can recall constantly saying I brought
Speaker 1: her onto this show like I brought you here. I
Speaker 1: did this as if you owe him something, and it's
Speaker 1: just become so cringe that he liked under beholding that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he did hold it against me. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like it was really rude of him to say,
Speaker 1: because I seriously jeopardize. I didn't know that I would
Speaker 1: like to compete in this or that I would like
Speaker 1: it the way. So going into the season, like I
Speaker 1: was literally just following his lead. I was chilling. I
Speaker 1: was there for the ride, you know, like I just
Speaker 1: wanted to you trusted him, Yeah, you trusted that he
Speaker 1: had your best interest at heart. And you know, I
Speaker 1: didn't watch the previous seasons besides the ones that the
Speaker 1: producers told me to watch, and you know, I saw
Speaker 1: how he because they wanted you to see how messy
Speaker 1: he was, just so you know, Mariah, they were trying
Speaker 1: to give you a heads up. MESSI FESSI for a reason,
Speaker 1: but I literally, yeah, I saw him with Anissa and
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, you're a little jerk. I'm like please,
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know me outside of this. You brought
Speaker 1: me here. It's one thing, you know, it's a game.
Speaker 1: You gotta betray people do things that you know aren't
Speaker 1: proud of. Really, but when you're not to me, yeah,
Speaker 1: because you brought me here, motherbucker. Like I'm not a random,
Speaker 1: Like I'm not someone you met in the game. You
Speaker 1: brought me here, like I've never done this before, you know.
Speaker 1: And he was I won't lie. He was a great
Speaker 1: partner when it came to competing. But as far as
Speaker 1: like making sure I feel good, showing me how to
Speaker 1: do things, I had to do that like all by myself,
Speaker 1: you know. You know what. I'm a fast forward because
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you this question later, but since
Speaker 1: we on topic, I'm gonna just go ahead and do it.
Speaker 1: And the interrogation, we kind of saw him like not
Speaker 1: even so much throw you under the bus, gar. He
Speaker 1: just pushed you off the bus and kept the bus
Speaker 1: rolling right. And so my question to you is just
Speaker 1: just watching all of the episodes and listening to everything
Speaker 1: that he had said, especially in this episode, do you
Speaker 1: feel used? Oh my god, Yeah, As when I look
Speaker 1: back on it, it's like Professie to do that in there.
Speaker 1: I told him. I'm like, you know, it's very funny
Speaker 1: that out of all places to talk to me, I've
Speaker 1: been trying to talk to you for days and this
Speaker 1: is where he was to talk to me. Because for
Speaker 1: days before that, I felt horrible. I beat myself up
Speaker 1: about it. I cried in the bathroom just because you know,
Speaker 1: I still felt bad. He was he was an ass,
Speaker 1: but I still was under the impression that, like you know,
Speaker 1: he kept telling me that he wasn't saying these things
Speaker 1: and that people are trying to get in my head,
Speaker 1: and you know, it's my first time in there, and
Speaker 1: I still trusted him. So you know, watching it back,
Speaker 1: it's like you did get ribon in the green light
Speaker 1: and you were spiteful, but you know, I know that
Speaker 1: spiteful never win, so you know, wow, my goodness. But
Speaker 1: you know what all of that of you saying that
Speaker 1: he didn't talk to you, and you know, he didn't
Speaker 1: check on you like you guys weren't the typical ryder
Speaker 1: dyes inside of the house kind of explains the Burn vote.
Speaker 1: But I want you to explain it More's talk more
Speaker 1: about that Burn vote. So the vote Devint Devin put
Speaker 1: it in my head that if I didn't, you know,
Speaker 1: put in a vote that they're going to put someone
Speaker 1: in our guys team. And honestly, I looked at the elimination,
Speaker 1: I looked at Fessie, and out of all of the
Speaker 1: guys on his team, Fessie was going to be every
Speaker 1: single one on the team for that eliminating. I had
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. And then I thought about it.
Speaker 1: I was feeling so bad and I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: if I was in this position, Fessie would never do
Speaker 1: that for me, Like, because he's been saying things in
Speaker 1: that in that interrogation, he told the girls that he's
Speaker 1: closer to all of them than me, like he's shut
Speaker 1: the front door. Yes, he trusted the girls more than
Speaker 1: he trusted me, and that he's known them longer than me.
Speaker 1: And in my head, I'm like, you're very weird for that,
Speaker 1: because you brought me here, you put me in this,
Speaker 1: and now it's like ride until you know I need
Speaker 1: you and then you could go die, you know, So
Speaker 1: you felt disposable, yes, And watching it back how I
Speaker 1: felt in the moment, it's so crazy, Like it's true
Speaker 1: that having experience on the show and you know, doing
Speaker 1: it once and seeing what you did wrong could really
Speaker 1: open your eyes. I was speeding myself up about doing
Speaker 1: that because that's not the type of person I am.
Speaker 1: And now watching it back, I'm so glad I did that.
Speaker 1: I would do it again, look and just to be
Speaker 1: just to be normal person's advocate. I don't like saying
Speaker 1: devil's advocate. He needs no advocates, but it's a normal
Speaker 1: person's advocate. Now. I don't agree with Bessie on many things,
Speaker 1: most things, but I can understand now, and this is
Speaker 1: this is just this isolated moment, all right, this isolated moment.
Speaker 1: Everything else is this everything I can understand how in
Speaker 1: that moment, being up there on the chopping block and
Speaker 1: having my ride or die have to say a name
Speaker 1: like I. I can understand him being mad in that
Speaker 1: moment and feeling like that was a betrayal. No, no,
Speaker 1: I felt horrible. It wasn't, and you know Mallet's and tent.
Speaker 1: But looking back at it now, I would have done
Speaker 1: it again. So that's how do you guys know? That's
Speaker 1: how I feel that your team would have to go,
Speaker 1: some of your team would have to go in if
Speaker 1: you guys tied up the votes, were you told that
Speaker 1: explicitly Devin convinced me and actually going, yeah, den't really
Speaker 1: be on it. Literally the whole team where they they're like,
Speaker 1: the only we're not going to tell anyone what we're doing, guys,
Speaker 1: the only person in this group we don't trust to
Speaker 1: not tell they're righted eyes Mariah, because I was defending
Speaker 1: right so they all they all kept it from me
Speaker 1: that they're gonna see. And at the end Amber came
Speaker 1: in so Jordan before he called Toria Taurus or tauris
Speaker 1: what the hell a terrorist and all that terrorists, which
Speaker 1: is wild. We'll get to that crazy yeah, oh do
Speaker 1: you want me to say this fire or no? No? Yes,
Speaker 1: no, no no, say it. We'll get to yes. Yeah. You know.
Speaker 1: We went in the room and he's like, who told
Speaker 1: Tori something? Who told her? We're all like, dude, we
Speaker 1: didn't see anything. Um. Jordan was so like particular about
Speaker 1: us not talking. He moved his exercise bike by one
Speaker 1: of the rooms. I felt like he was watching me
Speaker 1: like a hawk, and Amber like put me in a
Speaker 1: room and she's like, I need to tell you something.
Speaker 1: Jordan's watching like a hawk and I don't want to
Speaker 1: say Fussie's name. And I was like, Okay, don't say
Speaker 1: Fussie's name, you know, And so at this point I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: Fessi's main vote. I know this. So I'm the bus.
Speaker 1: Jordan's sits next to me, like, you know, not directly
Speaker 1: next to me, but right across from me, and he's
Speaker 1: watching me. So shadow, yeah, it was like a hawk.
Speaker 1: So I sit next to Fessie. I don't move my
Speaker 1: neck at all, I don't my lips, and I tell
Speaker 1: him and get ready because I knew you'd at this point,
Speaker 1: and but I didn't know how many people were in
Speaker 1: on this. I knew that like it was their plotting.
Speaker 1: So then when we saw the elimination, I told the
Speaker 1: whole team. The guys, I said, where We asked, We're like,
Speaker 1: who are you guys putting in? They kept saying, I
Speaker 1: don't real, So you know, I told him. I said,
Speaker 1: that's fine if you guys put a Fessie and he's
Speaker 1: one hundred percent coming back, and that would just be
Speaker 1: us to move because he's going to come back. And um,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to have my team going because I
Speaker 1: hate my guys, you know, and you know we were dude,
Speaker 1: our team was getting direct or hell Okay, we were
Speaker 1: like the little pip squeaks getting wiped off. I could
Speaker 1: or could not depending on the day, tried. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: the little indis she tried. Um. Right on your Twitter,
Speaker 1: you were going off and you said I defended Bessie's
Speaker 1: character so much to the other challengers when he didn't
Speaker 1: deserve it. He talked about me behind my back, making
Speaker 1: crazy statements like he carried me and many more. What
Speaker 1: were some of the other crazy statements that you heard
Speaker 1: Bessie was saying about you in the house while purporting
Speaker 1: to be your rider die. So besides Bessie saying that
Speaker 1: he carried me throughout the challenges, he also said, you know, um,
Speaker 1: I held her hand and then as soon as we
Speaker 1: split teams, he's like, not my partner, not my problem anymore.
Speaker 1: When I was sick, Wow, he told he said he
Speaker 1: was closer than the other girls and me. He also
Speaker 1: told me that he didn't know if he wanted me
Speaker 1: to go home or Nanni, like he couldn't he couldn't
Speaker 1: decide who you wanted to go home? What. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: your foot didn't ever accidentally slip and hit him in
Speaker 1: the mouth or at egor accidentally trip and just like
Speaker 1: keep him in the face one time. I R not
Speaker 1: that I condone violence. I don't, but that's wild. When
Speaker 1: he said that he couldn't decide if he wanted, you know,
Speaker 1: Nannie to go home or me. That hurt me because
Speaker 1: it's like, dude, you brought me here, and I remember
Speaker 1: I went back because you know, I was feeling soft
Speaker 1: a little, so I was trying not to cry because
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, like what am I? You know,
Speaker 1: like why is this my partner? You know? I would
Speaker 1: look at other teams and I'd be like, damn, Like,
Speaker 1: for instance, Nelson, Nelson was such an amazing partner to
Speaker 1: his teammate, checking on her, you know, giving her protein shakes,
Speaker 1: working out with her, you know, talking. Not a great
Speaker 1: partner to Olivia though, But that's neither here nor there.
Speaker 1: Yeah oh no, yeah, so I love Nelson. I do too.
Speaker 1: Um so yeah, it just it was definitely eye opening.
Speaker 1: And then, you know, watching the episode of him telling
Speaker 1: Casey like, you know, how how ride or die? Are
Speaker 1: we really? You know, and then saying cases my real
Speaker 1: ride or die? Well, then you should have had him
Speaker 1: as your partner, motherfucker? You know right? Right? Oh god?
Speaker 1: Um what was Banana saying about all of this, because
Speaker 1: obviously you were very close to the ban and he
Speaker 1: has a lot of experience in this game, and he's
Speaker 1: one who just gives his opinion on things. So what
Speaker 1: as this you're experiencing this? Are you kind of letting
Speaker 1: him in on what you're hearing? Is he the one
Speaker 1: telling you that are said about you? No? I mean
Speaker 1: Olivia told me, Neurice told me. He said it to me.
Speaker 1: You know. Um for instance, you know the challenges, like
Speaker 1: he messed up a lot, and I never once made
Speaker 1: him feel bad. I never once blamed him. You know,
Speaker 1: it just is what it is. If we don't win
Speaker 1: our stars to the line. You know, we weren't ready
Speaker 1: for the win. That's just how I feel about things,
Speaker 1: you know. Encouragement yeah yeah, but for him, like you
Speaker 1: know the car challenge, I kind of wanted to try
Speaker 1: jumping on the cars, but you know, damn whump because
Speaker 1: if we don't win, you know, he's gonna blame it
Speaker 1: on me. He's gonna blame that he did he would
Speaker 1: have won. You know, did Bananas give you any advice
Speaker 1: on how to handle this? Like, I'm just so curious
Speaker 1: on what his take was because he's very perceptive. I
Speaker 1: felt like Bananas was my partner, Like he didn't like
Speaker 1: he didn't like Festie in the house. He you know,
Speaker 1: he obviously played his part in their team. But he
Speaker 1: told me, like, you know how he is, you know,
Speaker 1: he he treats women disposable. He is only good to
Speaker 1: them when he needs them. And he was basically telling me,
Speaker 1: like to get my grip together and just be in
Speaker 1: the game. Yeah, and luckily I'm the type that can
Speaker 1: still compete when I'm feeling a type of way. Yeah. Right,
Speaker 1: so we why we got Johnny on the line? Okay,
Speaker 1: I want to that. I want to dab on into that.
Speaker 1: How did this start? This, this you and Johnny? How
Speaker 1: did this come about? What did he do to woo you? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So Johnny is not my type? You know normally, Why
Speaker 1: do you say that? What about him? What about him?
Speaker 1: What about him? Is not your type? I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's just you know, Johnny's handsome. But you know, I've
Speaker 1: I've had you know, more like you know, my age, taller,
Speaker 1: you know, stuff like that. But uh, okay, it's but no, Actually,
Speaker 1: out of all of the guys that I've talked to,
Speaker 1: I would say that Johnny is the best one, and
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people will be like, okay, whatever,
Speaker 1: he's really charming. Um, but not even that. Actually, it's
Speaker 1: like the first time that Johnny tried. He tried kissing
Speaker 1: me in the kitchen and I denied him because you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know him, or curbing him in the house. Girl. Yes,
Speaker 1: oh my god, so hard. Everyone thought I was playing him,
Speaker 1: but that's just like, I don't know you, and I
Speaker 1: think that because everyone else was jumping the like the
Speaker 1: first day at someone, they would like immediately like start
Speaker 1: hooking up and stuff. So yeah, I kind of forced
Speaker 1: him to get to know me, you know, and um,
Speaker 1: way to do it, girl, girl. Yeah, he was very persistent,
Speaker 1: like he'd make me breakfast every morning, coffee every morning,
Speaker 1: every single t looking in the challenge challenge Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know he wouldn't he like he would make me
Speaker 1: love letters, little poem right, yeah right, I know you
Speaker 1: have one of those. You may have deleted Bessie's DMS,
Speaker 1: but I know, girl, you have somewhere in that house
Speaker 1: near you. You were boxed somewhere in the garage, but
Speaker 1: I could, I could find him later. I just moved
Speaker 1: and it's definitely in a box. Oh okay, before we
Speaker 1: get off this podcast, we're gonna give you a couple
Speaker 1: minutes to find those letters. Mean, yeah, No, he's so sweet.
Speaker 1: Every single challenge he would make me something like there
Speaker 1: was like a metal like gate thingy and he took
Speaker 1: he ripped a piece out of it and he made
Speaker 1: a heart for me. Um. He there was like one
Speaker 1: plant with like one flower on it, and he like
Speaker 1: went and then put it on my bed. He did
Speaker 1: such nice thing, not killed the final flower on the
Speaker 1: plant for you. And when I was for real, when
Speaker 1: I was sick, like he like always made sure it
Speaker 1: was good. I felt like I was his partner as
Speaker 1: much as Nanny was. You know, look at I love
Speaker 1: seeing I love hair bear side. No, I really do.
Speaker 1: He's the nicest guy and I know a lot of
Speaker 1: people have different opinions about him, but I don't think
Speaker 1: it's fair, Like if you fuck up and then people
Speaker 1: just put that at that like that to do I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, like that more than once though, he Yeah,
Speaker 1: he shaded. He shaded Bessie this episode about Bessie having
Speaker 1: a tangled web and having to get out of situations
Speaker 1: that involves women. That is definitely the pot calling the
Speaker 1: pot because one day someone's got to be someone day,
Speaker 1: someone's got to be better. And if it's not this time,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not afraid to yes girl. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: not you making me a stand girl? I mean I
Speaker 1: still question your choice using Johnny, but I appreciate that
Speaker 1: message and I like it. Wait where do you guys stand? Period? Now?
Speaker 1: I was going right there, So I'm you know, I'm
Speaker 1: a private person. But are we hanging out? Yes? And
Speaker 1: you know, is he still a great guy? Yes? Has
Speaker 1: he gotten the kissing more? Don't worry, it's just me
Speaker 1: and Davon here. It's a safe space. Um. Well yeah,
Speaker 1: so she got that was a couple. I'm tired that is. Yes.
Speaker 1: Wait does this mean you get free Banana's merch? No?
Speaker 1: Those T shirt TV selling? Oh yeah? Is he trying
Speaker 1: to get you to advertise it for it? Is he
Speaker 1: trying to get you to take social media picks in
Speaker 1: it and post them? No? No, but I offered to
Speaker 1: do it just because he's so sweet to me and
Speaker 1: helps me out, like even with like business opportunities. He
Speaker 1: always will bring my name up in an opportunity and
Speaker 1: I appreciate someone like that. I love to hear them.
Speaker 1: So it's nice to have someone who isn't competing with
Speaker 1: me and wants to like build me up. You know,
Speaker 1: good job, Johnny, I'm here for you know. I questioned
Speaker 1: it when I heard about Day Did you question it?
Speaker 1: I was like, wait, Bananas and Mariah, wait what? But like,
Speaker 1: I think it's cute? What do you think Day? I
Speaker 1: didn't question it. I was just like Johnny's dude, everyone's
Speaker 1: question of Johnny. There's a whole thing playing him. I
Speaker 1: was like, oh damn yeah. Okay, So before we go
Speaker 1: any further, and I know it's good. Okay, we need
Speaker 1: to take a quick break and we'll be right back
Speaker 1: after this. Let me tell you about something that didn't
Speaker 1: work out, and that was this daily challenge. Okay, let's
Speaker 1: get into this target challenge that did not work out
Speaker 1: at all. Okay, Let's talk about you having to stand
Speaker 1: there and watch Bessy struggle through this target challenge. How
Speaker 1: did that feel? And how do you think you would
Speaker 1: have done if you would have been the one that
Speaker 1: had to go up? Bro? If I had okay, if
Speaker 1: I had Devin there, that's okay, Yeah, would I be
Speaker 1: able to do it. Yes, would I chug it? Yes,
Speaker 1: Like I rather chug that than swim honestly, so do
Speaker 1: we know what it was? It was like fish oil
Speaker 1: and like a dunk and it was nasty. But watching
Speaker 1: them do it, dude, you know, I'm I'm also competitive
Speaker 1: and I was getting pissed and obviously, you know, we
Speaker 1: ended up starting to feel bad for a festage, so
Speaker 1: we helped him. Did that work out in our favor?
Speaker 1: Oh my god? Yeah, what the hell of course I do.
Speaker 1: But uh, you know, it just shows what type of
Speaker 1: team we are, and you know, the type of people
Speaker 1: we are, and you know, maybe I don't take that
Speaker 1: back being like having the heart that we do. You
Speaker 1: know what, when I was watching the episode at first,
Speaker 1: I was just kind of like, like, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: I laughed a little bit, but I was kind of
Speaker 1: concerned as to why at the end of it, when
Speaker 1: it was all said and done, everyone went to console
Speaker 1: festy accept you. But now, you know, now get in
Speaker 1: the background, Tea, I kind of get it. Why you
Speaker 1: just went over with your teammazing was like, He'll be
Speaker 1: all right, Yeah, I mean I literally we were an
Speaker 1: awkward stage, like we weren't talking and you know, he
Speaker 1: wasn't He wasn't talking to me ever since well, actually
Speaker 1: he wasn't talking to me ever, let's be honest. But
Speaker 1: I would literally be like, hey, do you want to
Speaker 1: talk about what happened? Like, do you have anything you
Speaker 1: want to say to me? And he wouldn't say anything.
Speaker 1: You know, I had to hear that. Yeah, but we
Speaker 1: get to you're a part of the challenge, and you
Speaker 1: see what it is and how difficult it is. At
Speaker 1: any point, do you wish you had volunteered for the
Speaker 1: other stations? And which one would it have been. I mean,
Speaker 1: I feel like I could have done any of the
Speaker 1: other ones. You know, we just didn't know. We knew
Speaker 1: that the last one was going to be something with strength,
Speaker 1: so we kept me for that one. But I didn't
Speaker 1: know it was going to be ripped shrink, okay, Like,
Speaker 1: so any time I would hold, by the time Jordan
Speaker 1: would get to my leg and hold for a little bit,
Speaker 1: I was done for Like after you tried doing that
Speaker 1: a couple of times and you don't do it fast
Speaker 1: and you're just holding there, It's like I didn't want
Speaker 1: to let go. My hands would just rip off, and
Speaker 1: I didn't have the grip strength for it, you know,
Speaker 1: have the strength that Chauncey had, and it just didn't
Speaker 1: work out for us. Horrible. Yeah, I wouldn't know that today,
Speaker 1: Like what made you hold out to do the last
Speaker 1: one or like what was your team's discussion around which
Speaker 1: pairs which would do what? Well? They wanted me for
Speaker 1: the strength, because you know, they're like, you're the strongest
Speaker 1: girl on our team, and then they like the puzzle.
Speaker 1: We're We're fine with I guess whoever doing the puzzle,
Speaker 1: Like the puzzle wasn't the strength of any of us,
Speaker 1: Like it wasn't like our favorite thing to do, so
Speaker 1: no one was like jumping to do the puzzle. So nannies,
Speaker 1: we're like, okay, cool, you know, and um, Harasio and
Speaker 1: Jordan wanted to do the last one with me, gotcha. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when we let's take it to the interrogation a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when you look back and you see the girls campaigning
Speaker 1: against you, so you see both Nanni and Amber sort
Speaker 1: of saying, hey, don't look at me, look at Mariah.
Speaker 1: How did you feel watching that back and at the
Speaker 1: time did you have any inclination that that's how the
Speaker 1: conversations would be going well, I mean, I'm a frickin rookie.
Speaker 1: I knew. I mean, I knew it was gonna be me,
Speaker 1: and honestly, like, I cost the girls' day, so why
Speaker 1: wouldn't it be me? You know what I mean? But
Speaker 1: actually then that was a good thing. So they should
Speaker 1: have been like, thank you, Maria, let me not put
Speaker 1: you in because now we don't have a girls' day.
Speaker 1: But you know it's not gonna be It's not gonna
Speaker 1: be Nannie of course, because everyone on the other side
Speaker 1: is protecting her. And then as far as Amber, the
Speaker 1: only thing that I thought was kind of funny was
Speaker 1: saying that I betrayed her because it's like, you were
Speaker 1: gonna stay Nannie, and I say Nannie, And you know
Speaker 1: if I didn't save Nannie, you were gonna save Nanni.
Speaker 1: So how are you upset at me? You know you
Speaker 1: were you both were shady for that. Yeah, yeah, well, no,
Speaker 1: I owed my loyalty, I asked ne Reese because Nourice.
Speaker 1: Think about it, Nourse saved me two times by not
Speaker 1: putting me in, and then she saved us over Olivia
Speaker 1: Carrassio because we knew Nourse would be people. So if
Speaker 1: Nourse's main vote, and she saved me three times. Amber
Speaker 1: has not saved me any times. Who do I owe
Speaker 1: more than with you? And who's going into the religion?
Speaker 1: It's nice. And she said that she wanted to go
Speaker 1: against Nanni, so I went and I solidified a deal
Speaker 1: with Nanni. So regardless of Nannie making a double deal,
Speaker 1: she was saved by me anyways, because that's who Nose wanted.
Speaker 1: And you know, the last couple of minutes, Nanni's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I want to go against Amber. And
Speaker 1: I told her, I said, dude, you know, you're switching
Speaker 1: up on me and I just made a deal and
Speaker 1: I don't want to go back on that deal, right,
Speaker 1: so you know, and then she's like, no, no, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go against Amber. Yeah. Yeah, So that's so that's
Speaker 1: why I said Nani for her Amber, because I asked
Speaker 1: Norase and I had loyalty to these Norse was a roomy.
Speaker 1: You know, she saved me three times. Amber. Me and
Speaker 1: Amber were friends, but Amber was in her room, you know,
Speaker 1: twenty four seven with Chaunty. Yeah. So it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: and and I like Amber a lot, you know, but
Speaker 1: when it came down who I had loyalty too in
Speaker 1: this game. You know, I didn't know her outside of
Speaker 1: this game, so I picked Nannie, you know, so for
Speaker 1: her to be upset about it when she was going
Speaker 1: to do the same thing, and you know, later on
Speaker 1: she told me, you know, hey, me and Nanni made
Speaker 1: a deal. So I was like, why are you upset?
Speaker 1: You know? Yeah, that's what relationships are so important. You
Speaker 1: have to build relationships inside this house. Absolutely, speaking of Nanni,
Speaker 1: how was it going up against Nanni? Like, were you
Speaker 1: a little intimidated? Were you excited just given her history?
Speaker 1: What was that feeling when you were going against her
Speaker 1: in elimination? Man? Hell no, I don't want to go
Speaker 1: against elimination with anybody, like I'm gonna gamble my game,
Speaker 1: and like, for instance, it showed them eliminations. You just
Speaker 1: never know. Like when Nanni and I were in the elimination,
Speaker 1: I was on my sixth word friendship, and I realized
Speaker 1: that the word was friendship. And what happened was, since
Speaker 1: I had all of my letters in the sand, the
Speaker 1: magnet wasn't sticking and my letters fell down from the
Speaker 1: word devotion. So I had the word devotion correct the
Speaker 1: first time. But you know, and I knew that Nanni
Speaker 1: was close because of Casey's constant talking. So I spent
Speaker 1: and I put the word friendship up and I looked
Speaker 1: and I was like, damn, you know, I thought I
Speaker 1: did it, and I looked and I dropped my letters
Speaker 1: in the sand, and I was careless, and I lost
Speaker 1: because of that. Okay, spell it right now, Mariah, spell
Speaker 1: devotion right now. Don't look Okay, D E V O
Speaker 1: T I O N. That is incorrect. I'm kidding, that
Speaker 1: is right. Basically, you're saying you lost because of Casey right,
Speaker 1: constant talk, you know, actually talk. Well, No, you know
Speaker 1: it was me with the sand. You know, when as
Speaker 1: soon as I dropped the letters, I should have put
Speaker 1: them on the correct way, and I didn't do that.
Speaker 1: I was just such in a rush to put the
Speaker 1: word friendship that I didn't check my work. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then don't because yeah, I think about MESSI when you
Speaker 1: were spelling the word friendship at all? Did Bessie come
Speaker 1: to mind? Hell? No, period all I wanted you know
Speaker 1: at that moment, you know, I actually was upset in
Speaker 1: that moment. I was upset at Casey, I was upset
Speaker 1: at Nanni, and I was upset at FSSI. I was
Speaker 1: upset at Casey Nanni because it's like, damn, I just
Speaker 1: saved you last week, you know, and now Casey's you
Speaker 1: know over here saying my name, I just saved your
Speaker 1: girl friend. Dude, Like I you know, when people get
Speaker 1: in the moment though, like yeah, but that's how I think, mama.
Speaker 1: So you know, I was thankful, honestly, you know, knowing
Speaker 1: that I was getting back in the game. I was
Speaker 1: okay that I was out because I would have acted
Speaker 1: on anger and like, I don't like being that person.
Speaker 1: And I was mad, like I was ready to get
Speaker 1: back in the house. Oh, you're saying you would have
Speaker 1: brought some heat. I was, no, you did get back in.
Speaker 1: What would you have done? What are the first two
Speaker 1: things you would have done? Or said you're coming back
Speaker 1: in the house. I was going to tell everyone to
Speaker 1: fuck themselves, like I was just done, Like I was ready,
Speaker 1: Like really, I was done. I was pissed. And then
Speaker 1: you know, other you know, people are telling me now
Speaker 1: that I watched the interrogation, like, um, Amber didn't really
Speaker 1: talk shit, but um, you know, they were saying that
Speaker 1: Amber was talking about me in um deliberation and that
Speaker 1: she was you know, um, I feel I feel like
Speaker 1: it was Olivia and Johnny, but I'm not. I can't
Speaker 1: give one hundred percent because you know, my brains fried now,
Speaker 1: so I don't remember all of those details. But um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember I hit a whole bunch of things that
Speaker 1: I was worked you know, I was worked up. So
Speaker 1: going back and you know, being waiting, you know, knowing
Speaker 1: that I'm still in the game, I had time to
Speaker 1: reflect and be like, Okay, it's not that serious. You know,
Speaker 1: you're here to win, like fuck all the small stuff.
Speaker 1: But at the moment, I was like, this is huge.
Speaker 1: I'm done being Fussy's friend. I'm not helping Casey again.
Speaker 1: I hope they get out like I was pissed. That's
Speaker 1: just the fire. If you come back there, oh my gosh. Right,
Speaker 1: if you come back next season or when you come back,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just put it out at some point when
Speaker 1: you come back, do you think that you'll slip back
Speaker 1: into that mode? Like do you think that the memories
Speaker 1: will all come flooding back? Uh? You know, if you're
Speaker 1: on a season with Casey and Nanny and all that. No,
Speaker 1: I'm listen, I'm a reasonable I'm a reasonable person, but
Speaker 1: I'm not a global person anymore. Like I feel like
Speaker 1: I was so naive. I look back in the season
Speaker 1: and I literally just I was so naive. I just
Speaker 1: really trusted people because I don't know why people are.
Speaker 1: You know, I know it's a game, but like I
Speaker 1: feel guilty when I lie too much, you know, like
Speaker 1: I'll start feeling bad. So you know, in my head,
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, they're not doing that, because I would
Speaker 1: beat myself up. But if I did that, you know,
Speaker 1: um So now it's like I was talking to my
Speaker 1: dad and he's like, yeah, I'm right. He's like, you're
Speaker 1: really nice. So people take advantage of it. You know.
Speaker 1: If you go on another season, you know, you got
Speaker 1: to play people. And I'm like, damn, you know what
Speaker 1: if I do go on another season, I am going
Speaker 1: to play people like I'm not. You don't have to
Speaker 1: you don't have to fully play people I know don't play.
Speaker 1: There's a way to play the game without being right.
Speaker 1: But Fessie was definitely gaslighting the mental gymnastics that occurred
Speaker 1: when he tried to say to you, well, no, I'm
Speaker 1: not you didn't help my team win last week. But
Speaker 1: are you going to help my team win this week? Like?
Speaker 1: What after? He like, I believe he asked me yeah,
Speaker 1: and then had a straight bas and had the adsy
Speaker 1: get an attitude when you were like yeah, And I
Speaker 1: didn't want to, let you know, I didn't want to
Speaker 1: let the guys down on our team, you know, like
Speaker 1: they're a bust aass for us. And you know, even
Speaker 1: though we weren't winning, I still was appreciative, you know,
Speaker 1: and like, I don't I don't want to just throw
Speaker 1: them for someone who you know wouldn't even do the
Speaker 1: same for me. Yeah. Oh my god, this is why
Speaker 1: I don't go down here, bro, even your dogs. Right. Yeah?
Speaker 1: Where do you and Fassy stand today? Yeah? Um, I
Speaker 1: mean I just he I have no bad blood. I
Speaker 1: still you know, I still wish good on Fessy. But
Speaker 1: you know, do I want to hang out so anymore? No?
Speaker 1: Like just right now, it's like I don't want to
Speaker 1: hang out. Will you be responding to any of his
Speaker 1: DM No? No, Like I mean that was even so
Speaker 1: old and insignificant, you know, but coming onto it now,
Speaker 1: like you know, if he if he needs me for something,
Speaker 1: you know, am I gonna respond? No? But if I'm
Speaker 1: not going to be mean to him, is what I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 1: I'm not a mean person. I'm not gonna be mean.
Speaker 1: But am I going to ask you to hang out
Speaker 1: or you know, go out of my way for you? Again? No? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I ride in that Okay. But TJ tells you that
Speaker 1: you can come back into the game, right. I'm looking
Speaker 1: at your facial expression as he's telling you this, and
Speaker 1: I'm also listening to your tone. You don't say I'm
Speaker 1: too excited, Like were you ready to go home? Um?
Speaker 1: I wasn't ready to go home like I was. I
Speaker 1: guess I just accepted that I was going home because
Speaker 1: in my head I knew that I didn't lose, because
Speaker 1: in the elimination I felt like I didn't lose because
Speaker 1: I couldn't do it right. I lost because you know,
Speaker 1: of my stupid errors. You know, it wasn't something that
Speaker 1: I was like, damn quick question. By the way, did
Speaker 1: they tell you guys to pit the buzzer? Yes? They did.
Speaker 1: They tell you when they were giving the rules of
Speaker 1: meaning Okay, because I didn't remember. Me and Nanni were
Speaker 1: just the fact that both of you forgot about it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we were just both like a freaking airhearted at the moment. Yeah,
Speaker 1: both of us were like la la la um. But
Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell. Oh I was excited,
Speaker 1: but you know I wasn't. I was pissed at people.
Speaker 1: So for me, when I'm pissed, like it takes me
Speaker 1: a moment to get out how I feel because like
Speaker 1: I'm just I have so many emotions. So I just
Speaker 1: didn't know going back in the game. I was all
Speaker 1: I was thinking about was like, how am I going
Speaker 1: to act now? And what how am I going to
Speaker 1: go moving forward when I get back in. And then
Speaker 1: you know, of course I'm thinking like, okay, how do
Speaker 1: I get back in? Am I competing? Am I going in? Like?
Speaker 1: Can I steal someone's partner? Can I do this? You know,
Speaker 1: I had a whole bunch of things in my mind,
Speaker 1: So your mind was just in a million different places.
Speaker 1: I get yeah, I get it. Yeah, So you know
Speaker 1: I could have, you know, acted different, but like that's
Speaker 1: just truly how I was feeling in the moment. Wow,
Speaker 1: y'all got come from rider guys to rivals in one
Speaker 1: season period. Yeah, y'all got to perform in front of
Speaker 1: TJ's wife, Like, how would beautiful. Oh my goodness. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's beautiful and she's super sweet, and it was it
Speaker 1: was really encouraging, you guys. Oh yeah, she was very encouraging.
Speaker 1: And you know, Nannie did great. Um, she did great
Speaker 1: all season. Like obviously they don't high like, they don't
Speaker 1: highlight one person the whole entire time. But like as
Speaker 1: far as like competing, I see I see people say
Speaker 1: like kind of mean things online about Nannie and I
Speaker 1: competed next to her, and she did very well. Amazing,
Speaker 1: she did very well. They would have they would have
Speaker 1: won so many more times if Johnny didn't like, you know,
Speaker 1: lose on purpose because Nannie was doing good even Yeah,
Speaker 1: we heard about that a little bit that we heard
Speaker 1: Bananas was talking some talk about not actually wanting to win, yeah,
Speaker 1: and Nannie wanted they didn't want the weight of voting
Speaker 1: explain that. Yeah, So you know a lot of people
Speaker 1: were kind of doing that, like no one wanted to
Speaker 1: win because then you know, you make four enemies and
Speaker 1: then you know her four team enemies, and then that's
Speaker 1: just easier for you know, if if they win, for
Speaker 1: them to say your name, and anyone's looking for an
Speaker 1: excuse to put in anyone's name. So you know, Nanni
Speaker 1: wanted to win, Johnny didn't want to win. So like,
Speaker 1: I feel like Nanni and Johnny could have won a
Speaker 1: whole bunch more because Nanni this. I don't know how
Speaker 1: she was other seasons, but this season she was freaking
Speaker 1: like confident. Yeah, she had almost her whole time, Yeah,
Speaker 1: being a badass. She's scrappy. I've scrappy like I did.
Speaker 1: Like I enjoyed seeing YouTube both compete in that elimination,
Speaker 1: and I loved her fighting, but I just I loved
Speaker 1: to see her get her fire back after this elimination.
Speaker 1: Like you can tell a fire was lit up under
Speaker 1: her after she won this elimination, And I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: Nanni's here, Oh she's here, ladies. And Genia she has
Speaker 1: she has risen. It was good. Um. Okay, so you
Speaker 1: spilled a lot of tea and oh, actually, there's two
Speaker 1: things that would have left for you, mar Um. One
Speaker 1: of the things is our final segmentum where we have
Speaker 1: three questions for you about your supposed ride or die Bessie.
Speaker 1: And we did the same with him when we had
Speaker 1: him on the podcast. I'm pretty sure he failed miserably.
Speaker 1: Oh girl, I think he had one right? Yeah, oh girl,
Speaker 1: So uh, let's see how many you get? Right? Are
Speaker 1: you confident, Maria that you're gonna get all three of these?
Speaker 1: Let's see? I think so. All right, So Bessie started
Speaker 1: going by Fessel this season, right, What does fessel mean?
Speaker 1: Decision maker? Come on, g yes, girl, yes, not even hesitation.
Speaker 1: What does Johnny Banana's mean he worked out? He worked
Speaker 1: out Fania Republic? It does. Yes, that's a bonus point. Yes,
Speaker 1: all right, yeah, that's what we're gonna do. We're gonna
Speaker 1: ask you a Banana's question. Also for each of these,
Speaker 1: we're just gonna do a double wavy. This is only
Speaker 1: for you, Mariah. Okay. Number two, what is Bessie's position
Speaker 1: in football? Oh damn, I don't know. I have no clue.
Speaker 1: I don't even I don't even know. I'll give you.
Speaker 1: I'll give you three options, so you can pick one
Speaker 1: of the three. Quarterback, tight end, running back. I'd say
Speaker 1: running back. No, girl, he can't run. He's a tight end.
Speaker 1: I'm kidding. I don't even know what tight ends to do.
Speaker 1: I don't know anything. That's why I'm like, uh, yeah
Speaker 1: that I wouldn't know. I don't know his college stats,
Speaker 1: none of that. Okay. What sport did Bananas play when
Speaker 1: he was younger? Um? I don't know his childhood. Uh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say baseball. That could be right. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't have the answer for that because it's imprompt too,
Speaker 1: but we'll just told me to answer. He told me
Speaker 1: he did to play baseball, so I'm probably correct. Yeah. Well, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, so we'll give you that point. Then we
Speaker 1: trust you. All right, day you want to do number three?
Speaker 1: Say final question? Okay, what it's Bessie's bachelor's degree in? Um?
Speaker 1: He's ah, I know, he's a substitute teacher. He was
Speaker 1: with his degree in. He's teaching kids. Um mass Oh
Speaker 1: is it? I that's interesting? Is he good at math? No? No,
Speaker 1: he's gonna is it? I don't. I don't know. It's
Speaker 1: something that probably helped with his ability to gaslight? Oh god, psychology? Yeah, yeah, girl,
Speaker 1: Oh he's a professoral what was bananas? What is Bananas
Speaker 1: quoted as saying was his job or role? Not the
Speaker 1: not the Banana Republic job. What has he been quoted
Speaker 1: as saying is his job for for what? Like? Well?
Speaker 1: In life, he said this a couple of years ago. Oh,
Speaker 1: I don't anybody still say that. I never I never knew.
Speaker 1: I never researched him, nothing, I have nothing. He called
Speaker 1: himself a stay at home son. Long time? What a nerd?
Speaker 1: Very long time? I would, very very long time. Like
Speaker 1: even after multiple challenge wins a long time, he still
Speaker 1: called himself a stay at home son. All right, all right,
Speaker 1: so you have one for three with Bessie. You're supposed
Speaker 1: ride or die, and two out of three you know,
Speaker 1: we died, yes, girl die sometimes. Oh boy, oh boy boy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Let this be a cautionary tale to people about their
Speaker 1: d ms and the people they respond to. You know,
Speaker 1: it's okay to hit the block button sometimes. Um, the
Speaker 1: last thing you have for you, though, Mariah, because I
Speaker 1: did not forget. We never forget. Okay, let's hear it.
Speaker 1: Can we just give you like two and a half
Speaker 1: minutes to go looking about if you don't out of
Speaker 1: here a letter? Okay? Let me see hold on. We
Speaker 1: love you forever and have boxes literally stacked up to
Speaker 1: my scene like right now? Does he have good handwriting? Yeah? Oh?
Speaker 1: If he plays guitar for me all the time, he's
Speaker 1: so sweet, like he played guitar from I love this. Okay,
Speaker 1: I can hear her. Looking for the letters, I have some,
Speaker 1: an see, I have a cute one from Monnie. Um
Speaker 1: I saved, like, oh, let me see. Ah, I know,
Speaker 1: have Laurel on here. Okay, I found one, but it's
Speaker 1: it's just a stupid little pole. That's okay, Okay, let's
Speaker 1: hear it. Let's hear it, let's hear it Johnny Banana's original.
Speaker 1: So I was mad at him. I don't remember why,
Speaker 1: but talking the house for like like maybe like three hours.
Speaker 1: It was awkward, you know, and you know, you're a
Speaker 1: house together, and we'd like go get coffee and like
Speaker 1: look away. Um he put he put missed you like
Speaker 1: the deserts missed the rain, and then he put a
Speaker 1: sad rain cloud. Oh I cannot, I cannot. That's so cute.
Speaker 1: It's like very like middle school, but in like a
Speaker 1: fun and cute way. That's cute. I have no idea
Speaker 1: where the rest are, but I had a whole bunch.
Speaker 1: But no, that was good. I mean, if you want
Speaker 1: to find more and sendto screenshots, you can't. But because
Speaker 1: I want you guys to protect what you know when
Speaker 1: you start open stuff, up to the public. Yeah, a
Speaker 1: lot of people have stupid opinions, and you know, for me,
Speaker 1: it's like, so, are you confirming you guys are in
Speaker 1: a committed relationship? Oh my god, no, no, no, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm literally not confirming anything. That are you denying that
Speaker 1: you guys a committed relationship. I'm keeping me and his
Speaker 1: thing private just because like how she said, I you know,
Speaker 1: I like is a thing. That's what I'm hearing that. Mariah, Baby,
Speaker 1: where can the people find you on social media? I'm
Speaker 1: an interrogation Mariah jade A Mariah with an oh love it? Ye?
Speaker 1: All over? Make sure I'll go follow Peper please all over?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I've been all over this podcast. And we
Speaker 1: love you, Mariah for being so open, so fun. Thank
Speaker 1: you for rocking with us and sharing. And you did
Speaker 1: a hell of a job on your rookie season. We
Speaker 1: don't know to come. Hopefully we get to see you
Speaker 1: make it back in the house, but yes, if we don't,
Speaker 1: we are real that you're a part of the Challenge
Speaker 1: family and Messi Bessie may not have treated you in
Speaker 1: the way in which you deserve, but the one gift
Speaker 1: that he's not gonna let the world forget is that
Speaker 1: he brought you. He brought you, and guess what he
Speaker 1: can't unlike what black Mamas tell you, which is I
Speaker 1: brought you in this world. I can take you out, Bessie,
Speaker 1: cannot take you out of the Challenge world now that
Speaker 1: you're in it. So you're officially a part of the family.
Speaker 1: And I'm confident if we don't see you back this season,
Speaker 1: we will certainly see you on future seasons because you
Speaker 1: bring the table. Yeah, I really appreciate it, guys, like
Speaker 1: I'd love to hear that. It makes my mout What
Speaker 1: the hell? I can't even talk now? You're making you guys,
Speaker 1: make me smile. Start you can write us love letters. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty solved, so you know I probably could. You're amazing.
Speaker 1: Give your dogs pets for us and a big dog.
Speaker 1: And thank you so much for hanging with us today.
Speaker 1: Yes you, guys, thank you, thank you. Hi yo. That
Speaker 1: was such a great interview with miss Marajah. I'm so
Speaker 1: glad she came to hang out with us. She was
Speaker 1: been and honest and vulnerable with us, like, thank you girl. Yes,
Speaker 1: so fun. We need to start doing these lives because
Speaker 1: I find these guests we have, we would totally grab
Speaker 1: a drink with them and just like have fun with them.
Speaker 1: They would definitely hang out. What should look into that? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: hell yeah yeah. So speaking of hanging out, yeah, we
Speaker 1: thought the same thing. Oh, I love that that happens. Yes,
Speaker 1: where can they hang out with you? Are you on Twitter? Okay?
Speaker 1: Because a lot's happening in your community over the last
Speaker 1: few weeks. How do you feel about this with Twitter?
Speaker 1: And are you still using it? So here's the thing
Speaker 1: with Twitter. I did step back from Twitter, and the
Speaker 1: reason I step back from Twitter was because I've been
Speaker 1: on a detox okay, and I just have to detox
Speaker 1: from toxic places. And I don't get me wrong, I
Speaker 1: love Twitter, but I'm aware that there are very toxic
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Speaker 1: not on my block, but in the neighborhood. They are there.
Speaker 1: So I had to take a step back. But that
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