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Speaker 1: What's up, Cardinals fans. I'm Katie wu here with Trevor

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Speaker 1: Rosenthal and welcome to our very first episode of Cardinal Territory,

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Speaker 1: part of the Foul Territory Network.

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Speaker 2: This is so exciting.

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Speaker 1: I've been wanting to launch a Cardinals podcast for a

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Speaker 1: very long time. The fact that I have Trevor here

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Speaker 1: as my co host is super exciting. Welcome Trevor, Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the show, and thanks for doing this with me.

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Speaker 1: It should be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Katie.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Cardinal Territory, this is very exciting.

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Speaker 3: You know, not only to work with you, I think

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Speaker 3: you do a.

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Speaker 4: Great job as in covering the Saint Louis Cardinals. I've

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Speaker 4: enjoyed your work the last few years. But you know,

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Speaker 4: for me, the Saint Louis Cardinals Saint Louis, Missouri is

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Speaker 4: a big part of who I am and being drafted

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Speaker 4: by them in two thousand and nine at eighteen years

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Speaker 4: old and playing in the organization for a long time,

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Speaker 4: I mean the roots run pretty deep. So along with you,

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Speaker 4: I'm excited to be a part of this podcast and

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Speaker 4: I think we have a lot to look forward to.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, me too.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for the kind words I've enjoyed watching you pitch,

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Speaker 1: so it's kind of like a two way street here

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Speaker 1: for those of you who aren't familiar with us. I've

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Speaker 1: been covering the Cardinals now for almost five years for

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Speaker 1: the Athletic and Trevor has a resume that speaks for itself,

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Speaker 1: you know, eight year veteran MLB All Star and recently

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Speaker 1: just was previously the franchise hold holder for saves, so

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Speaker 1: that's exciting. But then Ryan Helsley just had to beat

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Speaker 1: you by one, So that was an exciting time for

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals last year.

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Speaker 2: Huh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was at least for me.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm a little bit biased to the closer role,

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Speaker 4: so I always enjoy seeing guys throw up triple digits

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Speaker 4: But you know, I think that was a little bit

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Speaker 4: of a highlight in the season that the Cardinals had

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Speaker 3: I know, in.

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Speaker 4: Twenty fifteen when I set the record, we were in

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Speaker 4: very good team. So my accolade was a little bit

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Speaker 4: under the radar in comparison to all the other exciting

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Speaker 4: things that were happening and being a playoff team. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: super happy for Ryan. And he's a good friend, a

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Speaker 4: great guy, and I'm actually gonna get be able to

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Speaker 4: get through the holiday up the Baseball Writers Dinner in

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Speaker 4: Saint Louis, So I'm excited to spend some time with

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Speaker 4: him there and be in Saint Louis.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that will be a very fun event.

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Speaker 1: I'm very impartial to the Baseball Writerer's Dinner, obviously, it's

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Speaker 2: But it's a great event.

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Speaker 1: Goes to our scholarship fund to help out various students

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Speaker 1: interested in sports journalism throughout Missouri. So it will be

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Speaker 1: great to see both you and Hellsley there, two Cardinals

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Speaker 1: relief legends. Speaking of Hellsley, it sounds like he will

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Speaker 2: He won't be traded.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know about you, Trevor, but when the

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Speaker 1: thought Ryan Helsley was a surefire candidate to be traded,

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Speaker 1: and I was a little surprised talking to President Baseball

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Speaker 1: a little bit about this. Over the weekend on the Athletic,

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Speaker 1: So what is your take on the Arnaudo situation and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a complicated matter, right, you know, when you're

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Speaker 1: Right when Arnauto opted in in twenty twenty two, at

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Speaker 1: But the last two years have sent the Saint Louis

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Speaker 1: And Nolan essentially granted permission for Moe to go.

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Speaker 1: Now as we are halfway through the off season, there

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Speaker 1: So I thought it was so interesting when Chandler reported

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Speaker 1: I'm sure the Cardinals want to move Nolan. They want

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Speaker 1: But we know what the priority is for Nolan right now.

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Speaker 1: It's a place that's winning now and a place that's

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: I'm a big Nolan Aernauda fan. We came up together

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Speaker 3: And and so I agree with you.

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Speaker 3: But all of those places.

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Speaker 4: So a lot to a lot to see what happens,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a very unpredictable off season. I should

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Speaker 2: That's wonderful to know.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, when the Cardinals first announced their

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Speaker 2: Twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: And I want to know, ask you, Trevor, there's so

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's I mean there's a lot of hope.

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Speaker 1: doing this about twice a week. Trevor is gonna be

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Speaker 1: with us at least once a week, so that's exciting,

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Speaker 1: and we'll have a rotating kind of co host table,

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Speaker 1: so very fluid. But most importantly, we want to.

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Speaker 2: Know what you want this podcast to be.

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Speaker 1: This is a podcast for the fans, and we're very

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Speaker 1: receptive to what you want to make out of it,

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Speaker 1: so hopefully you will follow along for the ride.

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Speaker 2: Trevor. I think we're gonna have a lot of fun

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Speaker 2: this year.

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Speaker 4: I think we are too, Katie, And yeah, I mean

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Speaker 4: definitely as far as I'm concerned. Set the expectations low.

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Speaker 4: This is my first time being on the media coverage

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Speaker 4: side of the game, and I'm lucky to work with you.

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Speaker 3: Katie.

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Speaker 4: You do, like I mentioned earlier, do a great job,

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Speaker 4: and just through our conversation today, so eloquent, eloquent with

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Speaker 4: your words, and such a great communicator. And I'm sure

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Speaker 4: that's you know what your career is built around. But

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Speaker 4: I'm more along the lines of throwing a baseball hard

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Speaker 4: and striking people out. So I'm looking forward to working

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Speaker 4: with you and developing some new skills. But we both,

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Speaker 4: you know, have a passion for the game and in

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Speaker 4: the Saint Louis Cardinals, so it will be it will

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Speaker 4: be fun to have these conversations.

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Speaker 2: I think so too. And I don't know about eloquent.

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Speaker 1: You should ask Lance LN about my postgame interviews.

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Speaker 2: They weren't good.

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Speaker 4: Well, be a little bit more positive and upheat than

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Speaker 4: our friend Lance. He brings a level of reality or

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Speaker 4: I don't know, he brings a sense of humor.

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Speaker 3: For sure.

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Speaker 2: He brings a level of words you can't say on

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Speaker 2: live TV. And I appreciate that. All right, this is great.

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Speaker 1: Like we said, you can follow us on x at

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Speaker 1: card Territory, like and subscribe to our page on YouTube,

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Speaker 1: follow us wherever you get your favorite podcasts. I'm Katie Wu.

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Speaker 1: He's Trevor Rosenthal. This was the very first episode of

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Speaker 1: a Cardinal Territory. We hope that you will follow along

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Speaker 1: for many more